Summer House Season 9: Episode 12

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it off. Oh no, no, no, true,
you'll never guess so sidebarbed. Yes.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
And also I feel.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Like I shouldn't have to remember everything I know. Actually
I have to talk about this. Three two one, Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And this is also Podcasts Summer House Edition, Season nine,
episode twelve. It just gets worse for me.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We only have three more. I have a confirmed end date.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, thank god, because if I had to watch these
two tall brunette men try and speak to women any longer,
I'm gonna know my goddamn mind. And this is why
I'm into blonde. I'm just I'm gonna say it. I'm
gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have a title that's so funny because Carl and
Sierra disagree they're into brunettes.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now. I actually I will take a brunette. But I've
been known to if esthetically I like brunette's history. I'm
really gone for blonde.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Same.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
My friends really roast me on it.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Like if I were to look at a celebrity and
be like, I think this person's hot, it's yes, I
have the same thing, or like a very very light brunette.
But typically like a dirty nond blonde.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh mine's dark brunette. Oh my god, a little caramel skin. No,
and then I date someone who has translucent skin and.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You like easily you can snap with like like wag.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
My friends really roasty. Don't let my friends listen to
this episode anyway. Okay, before we get into the episode,
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(01:56):
in the episode, I have a lot to say. I
was disgusted.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I was so when I was watching it. I was
so so curious what your thoughts were. And I couldn't
wait to record this because I.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Just okay, all all honesty. It usually takes me an
hour and a half to two hours to watch an
episode because I'm pausing taking notes and stuff. I had
to take at least three five minute breaks that had
nothing to do with notes, just me standing up and
walking away, and I gagged.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I like was talking to my TV to say so,
which I normally do during other shows, but with this one,
like I don't know, I'm just like more in tune
with it, and like I know.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
We're gonna talk about it later.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah yeah, But like I was, like, you have to
be kidding me. I had this is a whole new level.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I had a group chat going off while we were
all watching it at the same time, magical experience. I
had my friend separately text me that was from this
group chat just to talk about how disgusted she really
was with this, like it, I hope I'm gay. Like
I can't stress this enough. After watching this episode, I
hate man, They're so weird. Oh okay, we're gonna get

(03:11):
through it. I don't know if I can without dying. Okay.
So previously on Summerhouse, Tom Schwartz is here. Surprisingly he
was the best part of the episode.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
See I thought that was exact same thing. That's like
all my posts are like about him because at least
I can stand him.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
The absolute fuck is that Jesse was flirting with Sierra
while Lexi was gone and he wasn't honest about it.
Carl might have a little bit of a crush on Sierra,
Kyle's checking out his fertility. Lexi is upset with Jesse
because he's spinning the narrative that and is being manipulative,
and Page tells Lexie to walk away from Jesse. So

(03:49):
we pick up right where we left off. It's Saturday,
August seventeenth, nineh nine pm. The girls just finished their
chat with Lexi. Page says, even though we've known Jesse long,
he's a guy, so we'll kill him. So maybe that
they will have her back at three years.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think they kind of will. And just the I
like I said last episode, just like there are rights
and there are wrongs, and Jesse is wrong and some
of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
So we're at this newsfest party and then Carl and
Sierra talk. Oh my god, it starts so early.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I forgot I know.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
So Carl or no. Sierra asks about the girl Carl
hooked up with last weekend, and Carl says one. He's
committed a lot of crimes, but this is number one,
and I'd like him arrested.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Really, I wondered to know how much this irked you.
Committed to the other stuff this season.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
He tells Sierra that he didn't perform at his optimal level. Disgusting, disgusting.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Leave that for your boy chat, Just leave your own.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
No, say you were a little rusty.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Optimal level optimal crazy?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Are we at work the optimal level? That's crazy, that's disgusting.
That's so I don't need to picture you fucking to
your and let me tell you your optimal level is
a four. Sorry, No, you can't wear those green ass
ugly shoes and have a fetish for t mindes and

(05:24):
be good in bed. You just can't. You can't. This
is a terrible offense by you. No one wanted to know.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like you could have just said you were rusty, and
like we all know what he means, he's emotionally rusty,
Like yeah, we already know he hasn't slept with someone
like that covered it.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
When you say rusty, you can go I'm emotionally rusty.
Like it was a little rough, just.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Like it's awkward, you know, get you back into it.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
When you say optimal level, that just means fucking.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And I literally immediately thought of him thrusting and it
was the worst visual.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So this is where I paused and got up because
I watched this at seven am, seven am. I was lasting.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That is a lot. That's absolute yuck. Basically, I watched
the previews and so like, I got to just block
this out when I for real watched it on Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Remember when we had a lovely conversation about keeping things
to yourself, like when Carl said, I haven't fucked anyone
since Lindsay, just lie about it or don't admit to it.
Just be like I'm exploring. This is another thing you
just kind of keep yourself if you want to be
honest about it. Be like it was a little weird,
it was a lowkward. I'm a little rusty. I just
you know, it's been a while, but we're getting back
into it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Feel the need to talk about it. There are ways
to talk about it without doing that optimal.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Level is crazy. I don't need to picture Carl's bare
ass thighs. I don't have to do it. Stop.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
This is literally worse than thinking about him finger banging.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Lindsay, I that's fine.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I love that, And I never loved that. This This
is this is worse because at least the finger bang
was kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, at least, and at least like it was a joke.
This he was dead ass serious and Siah had to
sit there and be like, Oh, you'll get it next time. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Crazy grades to being like, oh, by the way, I
like you like you keep those in the same conversation.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
He's literally fucking at a level three and he's like,
but I like you get in bed with that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
He's like, Hey, I'm not optimal, but do you want
to bang me?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
If no, this this is why there's a male loneliness epidemic.
Just shut up, just like you don't.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Know how to like advertise yourself to somebody you're interested in.
Why should you gonna tell me you are about a sex
and then basically tell me you like me? Even if
I did like you, it's gonna be a no for me. Now.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I would rather a guy just look at me and
be like, I'm pretty terrible in bed, and I'd be like,
all right, we'll work on it. Optimal level. I picture
like robot Carl coming out and he just can't perform,
He can't get the task done. Crayz goodbye anyway. So
Carl again says he was very nervous because he hasn't
been with anyone since Lindsay. He could have just said

(08:09):
that anyway, but he's down to see this girl again.
He's gonna keep putting himself out there more. Carl would
love a brunette, and then Sierra is like, I would
also like brunette. And then Sierra says she's just done
with white men though, which is great, and then Carl
is like chance.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oops, Like if that was just a joke, then like
all right, that would have been if he was like, oh,
not me anymore. But then he's like, well, let me
take this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
He could have ended on a high note, because that
is funny. I love when even like when we're not
in it, and like I have a guy friend who's like,
oh I'm really into blonde. I'll be like, damn it,
time to die my hair.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And we already see that. Like Sierra and him have banters,
so like yeah, it fits with their relationship, but like,
why did you have to?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It was something Wes would say, and it was fun
and it was creative, and the man.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Insteads like, no humor, let me just ruin my reputation
a little bit more and dig this whole little deeper
on how weird I am.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
He literally goes, let me be honest, and I went nope,
and he said to Sierra that she's beautiful, she's incredible,
and then he kind of has a little crush on her.
And when I tell you she the wheels were immediately turning.
How do I turn this man down? She came going
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's like, oh, you don't want to crush him, Like,
I know she's treading so lightly because he's already at
a really low point and if you're honest with him,
this would just crush him in any like and he yeah,
like he's just trying to get back into it, and
so like why like hurt his spirit? And I think
she does a really good job. But like, having a

(09:52):
friend tell you that they like you and you have
no interest in them is one of the worst things
to go through because you're like, I don't want to
ruin our friendship.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
But it's a no, Okay, I could be wrong with this,
but whenever I have had feelings for someone, I'm pretty
engaged to like knowing if they maybe feel the same
way or if they don't. And if they don't, I'm
probably just like not gonna say anything because I already
kind of know the answer. Whereas like, if I'm feeling

(10:21):
it I'll kind of be like I like you, and
they'll be like I like you too. There was no,
in my opinion, respect like, there couldn't be anything from
Sierra that gave Carl this idea that like this.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Would know well, it's one of those things that like
men think that any woman being nice to them is
flirting with them, because they would never do that back, like,
they would never just compliment a woman. Well like stereotypically,
they would never just compliment a woman. So like Sierra
complimenting Carl Bunch is the green light in his head
and it's like, no, that's not what's going on here.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
This reminded me of and I always deny these men,
the ones on Hinge that will mess did you first
and be like you have the most beautiful smile in
the world and your sparkle in the sunshine?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, because you did that,
it's a no, Like I don't care what you look like.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's not how you approach us. It's just weird. I
can't explain it. It's just like not a comfortable position
to be in. So then for Carl to then not
only say I have a crush on you. I think
you're beautiful, I think you're incredible, You're so amazing. I'm
so obsessed that he just wouldn't shut the fuck up,
and I was begging him. I was like, stop, please.

(11:33):
I don't root for you, but I'm begging you to
just stop.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
And then I'm not rooting for your demise either, though,
Like I just need you to like slow your roll
and like tone it down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
If you're unsure, ask a friend, Just ask Page and
be like, do you think really.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
That is such a good point, Like why are we
bouncing ideas off the guys? Like kind of actually is
a good friend to bounce ideas off of?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Hey, I think I kind of have a thing for Sierra.
Do you know, like maybe I don't want to ruin
the friendship because.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
To be even the girls, Like, can you imagine if you,
like Carl asked Amanda, I mean, it would have been
like that's really sweet, but she doesn't want to date
anything in the house, like she would have let him
down similarly.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
But and then he asked Sierra if she's ever looked
at him like that, my god, and she it's it's
like it She's like, oh, my god, you're amazing too.
But so Sierra says, like, listen, she's in a really
good spot with Lindsay. Carl has been it. She uses it.

(12:31):
She's like, maybe if you were never engaged to Lindsay,
which is that helps that's.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Because I can never go back to pro engagement.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
No, she's in a really good spot with Lindsay. And
then Sierra says one of MY favorite lines to always use,
what's meant to be will be. So she's not saying no, but.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
She's kinda like it'll if it's meant to be, it, man,
I won't do anything to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
The universe will leave us as the last two people
in the Earth. That's when it's meant to be kind
of thing. And then she also says, I don't want
to date anyone in this house. I think I just
need to meet a stranger, which I do think that's true.
That's one hundred percent, Like yeah, true. And he says like, Sira,
you go out and date a little and then you
can realize how sod I'm so sorry. I don't know,

(13:21):
my god, this is what we.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Mean when like guys don't really like take a hint
or like when you like try to turn them down subtly,
it's like Carl's not getting I'll.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Wait for you, and it's like you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Like please don't like Carl. I don't think is like
scary and gonna just like keep pursuing her by any means,
but like, there are guys out there that will not
stop pursuing you, and it's like really jarring to experience that.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
And it's scary that. I mean again, I don't think
Carl would do anything, but his response of saying, like
you go out in the world and come back to
me is kind of crazy. I was like, no, thanks, yeah, Carl,
though acknowledges in his interview he knows he doesn't have
a sh how and I was like.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Thank good. I do think Carlin and his interviews in
Carl who was there that summer are two different. Carls,
I agree, has grown a lot.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I agree, but he says this really put his confidence up,
which I would like to say. Do you notice how
men the minute they lose an ounce of confidence, it's
like we have to be so careful with them gloves on,
the confidence is down, whereas women literally our confidence is
shot at least twelve times a day, mostly by men,

(14:32):
and I still am expected to just like show up.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
And I still think about that related to the one
summerhouse person who yelled at me for saying these men
suck on like our post, and I'm like, women get
called bitches at least once a day, like grow the
fuck up and just take it.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Not to call him out, But didn't he do some
pretty shitty things to a woman in the summerhouse. Yeah,
I mean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Just I mean, there's multiple every single one of them
actually all have done that. But yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Could guess who it is, you'd probably be right, But
I mean there's only four to really guess from. So
I don't know, just think about it. But I'm kind
of over men being like, oh my confidence was down,
but this is helping you creeping out.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Ninety were tied to us, Like why are we constantly
responsible for like how men feel like we don't expect
men to like constantly boost our confidence and do whatever.
To be honest, we like rely on our girlfriends, like
like find some friends and do it yourself.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I again, men are the ones that repeatedly kill our confidence.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, so the fun here's the thing. They won't break us.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
They can.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
They do so much to us and take.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Them literally, it's embarrassing. Dat like a man like so.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Embarrassed, so embarrassing, Like I like this.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I watch a man try to navigate the world, and
I'm embarrassed for them. That's this. Ye sorry, And even
when I fuck up perfectly, even when I fuck up,
it's not nearly as embarrassing as this, truly.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
No, because I'm also like we said, we're not as
honest at Carl as Carl like, yeah, we're embarrassing, but
we like keep that to our inner circle, like they
just blast everything to the world.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
No way, even if we're publicly embarrassing, Like it's more
embarrassing to be a man, because then let's say, let's
say you we switch places. I'm in Carl's position. I'm
telling someone I like them, I would crush whatever, and
they're like, I think we should say friends. I'm not
then gonna go, hey, you go out and see how
shitty the world is and come back. I mean, I'm
gonna go, no problem. I hope we can keep being friends.

(16:39):
That's less embarrassing. And then I'm not gonna go in
my interview chair and be like, at least my confidence
is back. I'm gonna be like, that was kind of embarrassing.
I got eight up there. That sucked, true, But we're
gonna We're gonna come back. Because women never women never stop.
You know. Yeah, that's less embarrassing. It just gets worse.
You know. When you're a man, you just like just

(17:00):
shut up.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Anyway, shut up. This conversation finally ends. It's now nine
twenty four pm. Parties continuing. Amanda find like sees Jesse
and is like, hey, how you doing? And you're having fun?
And Jesse's like, I'm not having fun? And Amanda's like,
what's going on? Even though she knows? And Jesse says

(17:23):
he feels like his friends are saying the worst of
what he has to say and taking it directly to Lexi,
and that's shifting the energy.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Wait, isn't it crazy to have somebody talk behind your
back and take it to somebody else?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
No, insane, He can't see the mirror that's presented right
in front of him. Isn't it also crazy that like,
you did something and you are blaming your friends for
repeating what you said to them, not even inconfidence.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Why old. It is why old, and.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So it's their fault. The energy is off.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just I can't imagine, like I would be upset
with my friends. He has a right to be like
you didn't. I was hoping you would keep this between us. Okay, fine,
but it's the lack of accountability of like what his
part is this.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I always say I'm if I'm going to say something
out loud to more than one confidant that I fully trust,
I need to be able to say it to the
person's face. I need to be ready.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
To say I am not as brave as you to
say to people's face, but I expect if I say
it out loud to somebody else. I have it in
the back of my mind that if this does get
said to somebody else, that's on you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I always am like, if I wouldn't say this to
someone's face, I'm not going to say it to like
a fringe friend. If I say, if I say it
to the whole house, someone comes up to me and says,
I heard you say this, I'm gonna be like, yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
To be honest, it's like I actually wanted it to
get out.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Exact words from my mouth, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And I don't know if he's just this delusional because
he continues this all episode, Like I think he is.
He one of those guys that is delusional. I think
he's half delusional, half manipulative. Like I think he knows
he didn't do something great, but I also think he
truly does not know what he said anymore, and like
that's scary. You're not responsible for your own words, like
you're just saying stuff to say stuff like you need

(19:15):
to like have better choices when you're speaking.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Then no, I okay, I fully agree. I do think
he just doesn't know, which is scary because it means
he like wasn't like raised to take accountability for his actions,
which is kind of scary because then he's not gonna change.
Like we're looking at who Jesse is. He's thirty fucking
something at this point, He's never gonna change. And you
can sit here all day and say, like, oh, people

(19:39):
have the capacity to change, but even fucking Kyle, who
we have been watching for nine years is kind of
still the same.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh my god. Yeah, And I think the only thing
is Summer House and other reality TV shows they do
give you a mirror, so I think like being able
to truly watch what his words were back will give
him the experience of saying like, Okay, wow, I really
don't know what I say. But he can't think there's
a small sliver that he could take accountability and kind

(20:07):
of like change some habits in the way, like him
speaking and trying to remember what he said next time,
Like doctor, I think he could change.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Maybe, But the scary part is he can't seem to
understand why this is hurtful.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Agreed. That's the biggest like fear I have about this.
It's like you can't understand that people are upset. Yeah,
that's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's crazy. So Page jumps in and she's basically like, listen,
you can't convent to us and then say you don't
want any of us involved, Like then people do that
if you say it to us, it's a thing. And
Amanda also says, it's literally your words, like we just
repeated it, and like if you're talking shit about your

(20:47):
significant other already, that's crazy. That's great. And they don't know.
Like if I'm dating someone and they have some yellow flags,
I would be like, this is where I'm hesitant to
be in a relationship with you, right, we have to
work this out before we get into a relationship, but
you always talk to everyone else in a shared house
about it.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yes, I think that, Like, I don't think the context
of what everything like Jesse said is like that bad.
I think it really does stand on. It's that he
is saying one thing to the girls in the house
and another thing to Lexi, and it's the disparity between
those And that's where the girls were like, whoa, that's
not okay. Like you're allowed to process things and be
like nervous about things and talk to your friends about things,

(21:29):
but if you're like switching it up once you're with her, like,
that's not okay. You need to take those worries to
her and work them out with her. And if you're
not doing that, like, that's what's concerning.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, if she's unaware that you feel this way, then
how can you grow in your relationship?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So, like, why would I not take that to her
to make sure she knows what is being said by
in her back? Because we should be her friend too.
I really stand like, I think the girls did everything right.
I think it would have been nice, like the only
thing they could have done better is go tell Jesse themselves.
They went and talked to Lexi and like they might
do him that though I think that's your friendship in practice,

(22:06):
but it's not the end of the world. Like that's
the only like next thing you could do but.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
For perfect but human power, but it's never gonna be.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, it's and like we're in the middle of a
party and like maybe Lexi deserves to go talk to
him first, so that's like a nuanced thing you could
do even but I understand him being like frustrated with
his friends, but it's not all their faults.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Not their fault. Yeah, Jesse feels like he's putting his
best foot forward in his relationship and isn't being overly flirtatious.
And then things are being brought up from weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
This is where I was like, sir, you clearly don't
know what's going on, like you don't know your own actions,
and that's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
He is trying to gaslight us, and I cannot I
cannot stand stop. I'm not crazy, You're crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's wild because like you typically see people do this
to their partners, but like to do this to your
friends too, to be like you're lying about what like
you told Lexi, like, that's not what happened between us
is diabolical. To try to do it to every single person.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
This is all on camera, and you're gonna try and
do it to Page, Distorbo and Lindsay Hubbard.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Please never gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Please, So Page says, let's call spade a spade. If
Lexi was here that weekend, Jesse would have gotten his
other ball chopped off, because if Paige was Jesse's girlfriend,
she would have killed him for the way he was
acting with Sierra. Yes, and Jesse's like, so now Sierra
is like kind of migrated over by them, and Jesse's like,
I wasn't touchy with anyone. And that's when Sierra's like,

(23:40):
excuse me, especially because let's just this wasn't mentioned, but
literally Sierra touched him at that cancer dinner and he
was like, stop touching me.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So he you did what you knew. You knew you
were overly touching being.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Gaslet, and Jesse wants the specifics on what he did.
So Lindsay goes, how about when you said if you
met Sierra first last summer before Wes, that might have
been a different story, and then Jesse says his favorite line,
it was a joke. It was just a joke. So,
and Sierra's like, what's what was funny about it? Why

(24:17):
was that a joke? And he goes, it was just
to make you feel better about the West situation. And
now I gasped.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I was like, oh, honey, you just created a whole
second problem I had taken. What did you just do?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I had to take another break because now Sierra's pissed.
She's like, oh, so you're just like saying shit, you
don't mean to pity me make me feel better over
a fucking loser like Wes. And Sierra says he's a weirdo.
For that conversation, yeah, and I agree because I have
a theory with shitty men, they either fall into the
category of loser or weirdo. It's a very distinct thing.

(24:53):
If you need an outside world descriptor, Donald Trump is
a loser, Elon Musky's a weirdo. Yes, if you need
a you need a Bravo SIPs like idea example, Craig
Conover is a loser. Jesse is a weirdo. It's a
loser you're more like and a weirdo.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Your mind, Like Wes Wydey is a loser.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Wes is a loser. You could sit and have a
conversation with a loser and just leave and go he sucks.
But if you have a conversation with a weirdo, you
leave and go ooh. I never need to do that again.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I think, and I think the loser guys like are
easier to be friends with. Like, I agree because I
don't mind losers as much as long as I'm not
dating the weirdos.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
You're like ten feet away. Carl is a weirdo, Kyle's
a loser. Yes, it's just it depends. But there are
good guys too that don't fall into either one.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, but they're very rare, Like it's like what happened
to you when you were being built?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Everyone has a little bit. Everyone's like it's like if
you acted shitty and as situation, I could describe you
as if you could you know, Yeah, yeah, so there
you go. The house is split.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Like great, so I just but this is another moment
where it's like, Jesse, you were not thinking about what
you're saying at all, Like, use a goddamn filter.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's a joke. Meredith.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's I hate when people do that. I understand if
you make an offense, like an offensive, actual joke, Okay,
I understand if you use that like you were like, sorry,
I was just like making a joke at your expense.
I'm sorry. That wasn't a joke. Making a comment like that.
That's not a joke. You're making a comment, and now
you're trying to backtrack and like play it off as
if it's a joke. It's so weird, Like why do

(26:39):
people do this?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
This is why I hope I'm gay. It's ten thirteen pm.
Sierra's piss She walks away. Lindsey looks at Jessy and goes,
you're fucked, and I was like, it's ten thirty one pm.
We party on. This party was a lot of these losers.
Better appreciate it, Sierra, Amanda and Page acknowledged that, you know,

(27:05):
Wes is not anyone's favorite person, but he's walking around
with this like old timey candlestick. I know, it's just
so funny.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Every camera angle on him. He's like doing the limbo.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
He's like getting videos with people with it. I like
he's doing the splits. This is like West is fun
and I hate that I love him. He draws us
all in.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I would date him in a second, no questions asked.
He also posted a TikTok of him. It's like, POV,
you're a candle and it's just him moving the candle
around the park. It was it was so funny. I
hate that it's funny. I'm upset.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Hate that he is such good humor, Like I I'm
not as funny as him, and it pisses me.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, I hate that his humor is our humor. You
know how we always say we need to date a
guy who's funnier than us, and that's hard because we're hilarious.
He is that guy that's funnier than us and he's shitty,
so he shouldn't date him. But like he's the only
one we're attracted to, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
True.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Anyway, Kyle P's outside, Lexi's doing shots with Tom Schwartz.
She asks, from a guy's perspective, what's a polite way
to lock someone out of your room?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I was like, get him, Like, get him the fuck
out of your room. Don't ever have him sleep in
your bed the rest of the summer. He doesn't deserve it.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So Amanda Page and Sierra talk in the Big bed.
They talk about how genius this idea was of Snoozefest,
because like they took something they love and made it
into a party. And then they were like, ugh, did
you hear Carl wants to do a baggy clothes party
because he likes baggy clothes. That's a terrible idea, literally,
what a nick And.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Then god, we got the pirate party. Like that was
way better than back yea.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Truly, But then Sear's like, oh my god, tea.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You guys, you're like, I gotta tell you something.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
No. I love when you like have marinated on something too,
because you just haven't gotten alone time with your friends.
And you're like, y'all, I don't know how I didn't
pull you aside immediately I got the t But.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Then like the topic comes up because like somebody else
talking about just adjacently, We're like, who whoa, whoa, whoa
whoa screw the baggy clothes I got typing, tea.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So Siarah tells them that Carl admitted that he had
a crush on her. Page cannot stop laughing. I am Paige,
I am paige. Amanda's kind of like you, but Page
is straight up laughing at the idea. Siara of course
told him what's meant to be will be, which again
just cracks everyone up. Pages, like, that's so nice of you.

(29:32):
Siara does love Carl and his friendship, but she's gonna
jump off a bridge if she has to date someone
else in this house. It's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
And then given like a lot to like being on
these shows for such a limited time.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, truly, we're done because she came in kind of
dating Luke and then Austin and then wes she meet
a stranger?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Girly, we're done.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Bye. Amanda does think that Carl is confusing Sierra's kindness
and friendship for something more, and Amanda is right on
that money men always confuse kindness and friendship for more.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
And because I think Carl's really struggling with like how
to pick a partner, I think like he knows he
didn't do well with the Lindsay situation, but I don't
think he's really discovered what went wrong or like what
he does want, and so he needs to do that
work instead of saying like, oh wow, I'm like interested
in this person and it's like, well, that could just
be friends, Like that could just be you guys have

(30:31):
something in common like that, It's not always romantic or
like truly a life partner type of connection.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I also think it's hard because his last supposed to
be life partner was one of his longtime best friends. Yep,
So it's really like all he kind of knows.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
He's he's actually not. As long as we've known him,
he has never like had to find a partner and
like actually like cultivate that relationship and decide if somebody's
right for him because he had Lauren who was in
the house. Like it's just always been easy access people.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, he's never really had like a from what we've seen,
that long a relationship, except he did.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't even remember like his I think it was
his first season or second. He talked about how he
almost got engaged. Oh yeah, so we had that person,
but I don't know how long that relationship was. And
I mean he was young, so could.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Have also been a friend from when he was five
and then they got engaged, you know, like he could
only just be dating because Lauren was I don't want
to say Lauren and him were friends, but they were
in the shared house, so you were.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Like the proximity friend. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I also loved During this whole conversation, while they were
talking about like, oh sad Carl like this was embarrassing,
they then are cutting to Carl dancing, which is just
as uncomfortable for everyone. No, so great, So it was
a great party. Uh, Jesse Solomon has learned nothing. He

(31:57):
is so fucking weird. They're talking about how like he's
a fucking loser. No, a weirdo. Sorry, and Sierra is like,
fuck him. The comment about him pitying Sierra was rude,
and Jesse's just embarrassed. He shared his real feelings and
that's the only out he has. Yep, he's embarrassed on
all fronts that he said something. It now he has

(32:19):
to own up to it and he can't. He like
physically cannot.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Instead of owning up to it with Lexi, he literally
blew up his relationships with the girls too, like he's
willing to take everything down instead of being accountable for
his words.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Absolutely son Lindsay kicks everyone out of the house by
Love That, Love That eleven h nine pm. The party
is closing out. Can't wait for the second annual Snoozefest.
Tom Schwartz is just happy to be here. Him and Kyle.
They're browing out and Kyle's like, dude, you look good,
and Schwartz is like, I am trying to be better.

(32:53):
I made my bed this morning. You gotta get that
first win of the day.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
You know, these two are useless.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, literally, if you put these two on a deserted island,
they wouldn't even try to escape. They would just immediately
start growing out and just doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
They just like they know how to take care of
themselves and they only know how to do their exact
wants and needs, Like they don't know how to interact
with people and like care about what other people need
and want.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
They're so weird at the same time, lack them in
a room together. Let me see what they talk about.
I just I gotta know there's nothing there, but there is.
It's a very weird. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well they can like both talk to people, but yeah,
there's no substance.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah. But then Schwartz is like, my life is going
great except that one void of not having kids. And
then they both bond over being forty two years old.
They both thought they would have kids by now and
now they have to be old dads.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Well, I'm like, what are you doing to cultivate a
life to have kids? Neither of you were doing anything
for it.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, they both got married. If that ends in divorce
for one or both of them, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Immediately, I knew that these two guys want a wife
and kids. But they don't want to be a husband
and a father.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, they just want the kids. They they're the type
of fathers who want their names and legacies to live on.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, and they like want to can the clock out.
It's like, oh, I want to take my son to
a baseball game. Okay, I want to be a dad
for like three hours and then I'm going to go
do whatever I want.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now, you want to put your kids up in your
office and then you can't come home for dinner though
you're just you're out partying in the Hamptons, dude, home
for dinners.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's like a doll. Like, I'm like, kids, I don't
like that a lot of people have kids for like
these selfish reasons.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I agreed, this is a fucking human you have to
take care of.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like, yes, like you're ruining children and like because there's
no way Kyle's going to cut back on his business
or cut back partying, because if you won't do it
for your wife, now, why would you do it for
a kid?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Kid?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Like a kid's annoying, Like, let's just be honest, Like,
you're not gonna want to do it when the kid's
waken up at three in the morning crying. You're gonna
want to be at a bar, you know, eat when
you get home.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
And this is why abortion should be legal. Anyway, That's
just my two cents. But read It's eleven thirty eight pm.
Page is watching her cat cam. Everyone's getting ready for bed.
We order a bunch of McDonald's on Kyle's card. Serves
him right.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I love that when he gets it and he's like,
on my card?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
They ordered it on my card. I loved Page telling
Amanda being like, I'm ordering it all on your husband's
card and Amanda is like do it.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'm like, do they all have a shared like uber account? Well? Also,
I thought Uber was sponsoring this, like get them some
free food Uber? But if not, do they have Kyle's
Does everybody have Kyle's card on their like DoorDash or whatever?

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Amanda and Kyle didn't sign a prenup.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Right, No, because it just got to.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Amanda's money too, because Amanda comes from money. I think
we figured it out. So like yeah, damn, so it's
a man. She's ordering it on Amanda's Amanda's time too,
but hey, man, whatever. So Lexi calls her sister.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I felt so bad and I wanted to just hug
her because of the like where she's sitting, like you
can tell she's like really not okay, like sitting on
the ground next to your.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Behind her bed, like away from the door.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
It was like, oh no, So.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
She gives her older sister the lowdown on that, like
what happened in the house, what Jesse has said, especially
like Jesse just told her this morning that he is
in love with her and then to find out that
she has he thinks she has flags and like she's talking,
he's talking some shit to the house and she's crying,
and Gab because of the rest of the house is

(36:35):
eating McDonald's in the living room and Gabby's like, where's Lexy.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love that Gabby noticed her, Like that's very sad.
Like Jesse doesn't notice her, no, Like even if he does,
he's not willing to like even though he knows he's
gonna get the brunt of it, like go comfort her.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, so Gabby gets up to check on her. She's crying,
hangs out, hangs up with her sisters so Gabby can
care for her. And let's he's just so annoyed about Jesse.
So now the timestamp I have to call it Bravo again.
They got a timestamp wrong. The time stamp then was Sunday,
August seventeenth at twelve twenty nine am. But that's wrong

(37:14):
because now it's August eighteenth.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Oh good point.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Let me edit your videos before you send them out.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
It's like, stop just copying and pasting stuff. You got
to know what's going on here. They did give people
timestamps during the week. I was more impressed did four seeds.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
So I believe we're being listened to. So I'm telling
you now, if you need help spot checking our episode,
I could do that for you.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's the thing you mean. Just you could send me,
you know, a few days in advance. Just give me
the you know, easy copy. I'll tell you where your
problem is.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Let you know, no worries, and I know you have
all the episodes basically because you already filmed the reunion
so everyone had to watch it. So just send him.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
That's the thing. I would do it for free, just
to get that up totally.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Oh, I'd like to be compensated a little bit.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
For my time. We got to start early. We got
to start early with our consultations. We got to give
them something. We'll give them time stamps.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
And I've already way up to my worth. I've already
proved my worth. I've called them out, but we're.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Giving them the details to fix it ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
That's how they're not reaching out.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
They gave me for my services because I'm doing it
for free right now. I'm letting them know say it anyway.
So Lexie's crying to Gabby. Gabby says she's happy to
slep Jesse around a little bit, and then Lindsey also
comes in because Lindsay notices everyone's gone, and Lexie says,
it's just a really shitty situation that Jesse's painting her

(38:44):
out in a way and makes it look like to
the house like a certain way, and then the house
is going to be less likely to support her, which
I think is a really good evaluation. That's a good
fear to hap.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I agree, and I don't think that's necessarily happening. I
think just naturally there is distance, but that.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Could be your first thought. It's like he's already made
connections and friendships with these people, and now he's putting
a bad idea of me into these new people.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I know, like she knows that, Like she's not super
close with the girls, and it's like, what if this
is the reason.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
And he should be her number one cheerleader and he's
just her number one enemy.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I always tell people it's up to you to like
intro your partner into your friend group. And I know
Lexi came and met these people without Jesse, but yeah,
like he should be helping her build those relationships if
you truly cared about her establishing these relationships and like
having long term friendships with his friends.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Totally agree. So then Lindsay she's trying to listen, but
then the baby kind of kicks her and she makes
like a noise and everyone they're like, oh my god,
that's the baby cake And then touching the baby and
feeling the cake did make Lexi feel better. So yeah,
thank goodness for Gemma. But it's time for bed, but
the boys don't want to go to bed. They want
to go watch Utopia on the trampoline outside.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
My god. Also, I thought they were gonna watch it
on a projector.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, it was all on one camera and they were
all just like coddled together laptop.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I was like, oh, cute, like lay on the I
love doing this where you're like, let's go lay on
a trampoline at night, Like this is what I like
about the summerhouses. You do get to be a kid
at heart a little yet. And I was like, oh,
that's so fun, Like I want to be there.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
But as Schwartz and Jesse are getting ready, Lexi's in
the kitchen and Jesse's like, hey, we're gonna have a
movie night, and Lexi's like, amazing, hope you guys enjoyed that.
And then she like walks away and Schwartz is like, dude,
you're in trouble and Jesse's like, oh no, And so
the girls all go to bed. Sierra's in bed watching

(40:46):
earwax extractions, which I love watching. I love I love
when the girl see earwax extraction videos are for the girls.
I'll find about it I'll find about.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
It also, like I want to get it done on me.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh my god, I would love to see how much's coming.
Did you know you're not supposed to use Q tips
in your ears. It's bad for you.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, and I do well. Okay, it's too late to
like stop to be honest, No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Your ear is a self cleaning mechanism.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I just I can't. It's it's honestly for the water.
It's not necessarily cleaning out my ear.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I just don't like your ear will get rid of it.
It drains on its own.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I can't. I can't do it, so I would only
just like go get my ears cleaned like once a year.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
When I tell you, there were two things my dad
did growing up that my mom said we're never allowed
to do, and that was smoking cigarettes and using CUE
tips in our ears.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh my god, I know.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't use Q tips because my ear is a
self I will sometimes the outside gets a little crusty.
I'll clean it up, but I'll never stay it in.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm all in. Like once I got the cotton ball park,
like got off. No, it got stuck in my ear.
And I was in Italy. I was studying abroad and
I have an Italian doctor go in with tweezers and
get it out and I was like, paning, oh, I
don't know what you're saying to me right now.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
You fuck up your ear drums. Stop doing it anyway.
So it's one o nine am, Zootopia Boys Night. Everyone
eventually goes to sleep except Wes, and he's like, I'm
gonna sleep on trampoline and I went, why is that
the Okay, this is so Midwest, I know, but like,
but like, I don't know. A part of me was like,

(42:22):
you have your own bed. I get it if you
were like sharing because Tom Schwartz came and like whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
But I guess, But no, I think I would have
taken this opportunity to like if there's already pillows and
blankets out here, like.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
My Mosquitos is.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
But Mosquito, I know you're so right because it's August two, Like, are.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
There mosquitoes in the Hampton's There has to be.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You know what. I don't know there, I think there
have to be. But I think I would do this.
Me and my brother used to sleep outside all the
time when we were kids. We loved it.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
No, I loved sleeping outside. Yeah, crazy, But at four
to twenty am it starts pouring rain.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
On the worst fear when you when you choose to
sleep outside.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
All I thought was I hope his laptop made it inside.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I thought the same thing, and like we do get
that confirmed. But also he slept for a long time
while it was raining. Like those time stamps were so
funny and I loved that they like showed us a
normal person sleeping in a bed and like west still
in the like d sheets.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It was. It was a good twenty minutes. It felt
like with the time.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
It was like an hour and a half I think
of rain. Yeah, like the last one until like four
to twenty was like two something.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
It was raining at two something, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Like it started drizzling, I think, and then it wasn't
like pouring or anything like you can hear the like
thunder and like yeah, I was like, it hasn't really
fully soaked through until like four twenty wild.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
So then it's Sunday, August eighteenth. They got it right.
At ten twenty two am, the house is starting to
wake up. It's a rough morning for the house because
we were drinking, we were up late. Everyone's feeling it,
Schwartz does. He gives us a little song, and he
doesn't want to leave the Hamptons, but he misses his dogs,
Gordo and Butter. For those of you who don't watch
vander Pump Rules, Lexi wakes up. She is sad girl

(44:11):
this morning. She is so emotionally exhausted. She feels manipulated. Manipulated.
Jesse is telling Lexi one thing and then saying all
these bad things about her to the house, which she
feels is causing the house not to connect with her.
So it's eleven oh two am. House is starting to
come into the kitchen. Bless up. Carl saved Wes's computer

(44:34):
last night. I would have fallen asleep watching Zootopia.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Or like I if I like bring my computer to bed,
I'll either like put it on the ground or like
I would have put it like under one of the
pillows next to me. But it would have been out there.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Mine would have been playing still Whine in the open.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I would have been slipping on my sad would because
it would have been drenched.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Would have been drenched. Schwartz disturbs see here in Page's
morning to say goodbye, and not only does he just
like say goodbye, he starts chatting. He walks in, he
starts chatting. I immediately was like, get this man out
of here.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
No, I loved this. I thought this was so funny.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
He then he got me. I was cracking up. He
tells them to cherish this house and the magic because
he used to have a happy family in La and
now everyone hates each other. And I was like, yeah,
big time, fab time.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Wait, that is so funny to think about the comparison
of these two shows, because yeah, like Vanner Pump, did
you know Spark Summer House to start, and like, that's rough.
That is really sad, like to think if these people
like broke up the same way as Vanner Pump.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I also loved when like Page ands here were like
we'll always love each other and he goes. I thought
that too, because it is so much more than like
a broken family. It's like one guy cheated and everyone
had to pick sides and then that affected these relationships.
But then three people got kicked off the show that
don't really keep in touch with a lot of the

(46:07):
other Yeah, and it's real.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah. The thing about that first season all the way
to season eight was like the first fracture of people
like rightfully getting fired and then yeah they lost the
ball and then to be honest, like Scan of All,
I thought coming back for like season ten or was
that ten or eleven, and they came back like I
thought that they would be able to get into a
good groove as a larger group obviously minus like Alreadyana

(46:33):
and Sandabal, and they didn't like that's it's other people's choices.
Season eleven that I think really just like it was
already like cracked a little bit, but they shattered the
group care Even whoever has not watched Vanner Pump that
like that description should tell you to go watch it.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
And don't just watch the Scan of All. Go you
never regret it. You will never regret watching.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Vanner because that that group of that Course six when
they all had a boyfriend in a girl friend and
ending friends is like wild to watch that Core six
is journey.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
No, it's crazy. And then Sina just is always there.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's just I'm so sorry she and I'm so sorry
I forgot about you. I'm thinking about you now.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
But this this is a conversation for a different time.
But just to mention for those of you not watching
The Valley is now airing if you want another like
vander Pump esque show. However, I will say the group
is already very fractured, and I don't think when I
watch I go, there's no way this can continue because
you need this Summer House cohesiveness.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
And it's like dark stuff, Like it isn't just like
like Lindsay and Carl's breakup, Like that was like sad,
but they had gotten past it. It's like nobody cheated,
Like it wasn't like it was just like they shouldn't
have gotten married, you know, like the way it happened
obviously caused a scandal, but it wasn't like deep rooted
where like it'll like keep this massive resentment forever.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
This that's the Valley in hits different. Dude.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, I'm like the family the repe over these shows.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
There is no family, sorry, Tom st That's why Tom
Schwartz's brother now lives with him, because he needs some family.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I'm like, Schwartz deserves to maybe come back to the
Summerhouse next summer just for one is he like he
just needs a family, He just.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Needs he should move to New York and just join
the family.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
It made me like This made me sad for him.
I'm like, poor little boy. He just wants a family and.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
He's single now he just got broke.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
He's so lonely because his neighbors Jack's Taylor like, yeah,
that's not fun.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
To give you an idea of how lonely he is.
He wanted his ex wife's podcast. He just has no friends.
This guy. Oh, oh, you feel but that's what gets you.
I've always said everyone feels bad for sports, so no
one thinks he's like not a danger. It's so crazy
because we just fell into it. Anyway. Jesse down is
downstairs in the kitchen and he asks Samanda and Lindsey, like,

(49:00):
why is Sierra even mad at him for making one joke?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Oh? I was like, you're delusional. You don't know why
she's mad at you.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, it's so dangerous that he can't like comprehend. So
Amanda's like, maybe because you're coping mechanicians. Mechanism of making
jokes in serious conversations doesn't help a situation. And Jesse
is like, I didn't think our friendship was so weak
that one joke would ruin it. So now we're replacing
the blame on Sierra of course yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I was like, how dismissive to be like, Wow, you
just don't take our friendship seriously. So you're thrown out
jokes about why you would say you were into her
to deflect what's going on with your little girlfriend. Get
the fuck out of here. You're gonna blame this on
our friendship not being strong enough. Now, I this is
the third time. I was like I'm done. I'm done

(49:49):
with this man.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
And then Amanda was like, maybe it's just not the
right time for jokes because these women are seeing right
through this man. And then Lexi comes into the kitchen
and man, is it awkward. And so Amanda's she like.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Walks up and then she like thinks about going in
a different direction, and It's like, no, I still got
to I gotta go with this direction. I was like,
oh no.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
So then it's very awkward, and Amanda's trying to make conversations.
So she's like, my stomach hurts, does Yourslexi? Did you
eat the McDonald And Lexi's like, no, I was crying
last night, and Amanda goes. Amanda goes, I have to
go by This is where I took another break. I
was like, give me a second, give me a second.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
They fought last night, but they didn't resolve anything, so
like Lexi knows when she wakes up, there's still going
to be a fight, and like that's frustrating to deal with.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I gotta give flowers to Lexi. She can eat a
mana she can kill him with word. I was so
impressed by her. I don't even know. Sometimes I think
I could do really well. But I if I was
sad girl, if I'm angry girl, that's one thing. If
I'm sad girl and I still eat a man up.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Like this, I know because she also always sat like
cowering and just like totally hiding from him. Like last night,
like she like Tom Schwartz was like, oh, come watch
the movie, and she was like, you guys, have fun.
Like she'll clearly get verse with you and like have
kind of normal conversation, but you're still gonna know that
she's pissed. Like she's not just gonna hide away. She's

(51:20):
gonna come get whatever she wants from the kitchen. She's
gonna walk through that kitchen this morning, like it's gonna
be awkward, but she'll sit there and she'll wait for
the conversation.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Give her her flowers did see who you know?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Honestly, girl.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
So Jesse asked Lexi if she has a special order
for breakfast, he can make her and ross. But she
she she says, the best thing she goes my special
order is to stop talking shit about me. That would
be nice. And then Lindsey, even Lindsay was like damn
eggs with the side of stop talking shit about her,

(51:57):
and Jesse's like, I don't think I was talking shit,
and Lexi's like, we should discuss this at breakfast with
the whole house because they can tell you if you
were talking shit or not. We can.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I think this has to be resolved because I don't
think he will take accountability for anything or really own
up for anything. And I again, I don't think he
really knows what he said, So I think other people
have to tell him what he said. And they need
to stop having these like sidebar conversations, like the girls
need to say everything in front of both what or
both Jesse and Lexi like, it just all needs to

(52:28):
be aired out.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Well, not only that, you've already told the house all
of our issues, so let's just let's have another issue
in front of the hall house.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
You can't do this what I'm here. It's because I'm here,
we can't do this.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, the issue is about me. Let's call everyone in
make your special breakfast, and let's do this. I was like,
I was genius.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I was so mad that none of those girls were
down in this kitchen because we didn't get this, like
we're getting that like game pushback on what Jesse did
or didn't do, because he's like, oh, I didn't talk
should about you? It's like all right, Like all right, no, Paige,
did he did he not? Like what was your perspective?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I don't think they did it on purpose because they
didn't know when. I just wish timing with the had
like worked out better for Lexi I do.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I wish like but she did well. She was like
she needs them there to really get all.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
The girls like Lindsay and Gabby. I think did a
good job throughout the conversation, but like to have the
six girls. I've always said, if you have Lindsay and
Paige on the same team, you're not losing.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But but the girls in bed, like are the ones
Jesse told a lot aboad stuff too to Lindsay and
Gabby will stick up for Lexi, but it's knowing what
Jesse said, and like Page honestly is the one you
need because she's been in the most like of those.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
He's been in the middle. And then we can also
bring up what Jesse said to Sierra. That's not fun
because that seems to be another issue, So let's bring
Sierra up in here too.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
That's the thing is, like we need to talk about
what he has said to Lexi and to Sierra and
the interaction between Jesse and Sierra the weekend. Lexi wasn't there,
like it it's not really about what Jesse thought anymore,
like what his intentions were, because we know you have
no boundaries and everything's a joke to you. It's about
the perception that you are putting on that you want

(54:19):
to be with Sierra. Like that's what this is about,
not just oh it was all jokes. I did touch her, Yeah,
you did roll the tapes.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
But then Jesse says he's happy to talk about it
with everyone, but that just feels a little extra, and like,
oh my god, Well, Lexi goes, m not really because
I'm the one getting hurt by everything, so it's not
extra for me. And she says all the drama she's
had this summer is because of you, jesse An.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Baby. I was so proud of her. I was like,
get them, get them.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I felt like her big sister. I was sitting there
going like I raised her well, I raised.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
It, and I was like, Okay, she's gonna have the
energy and like the like forcefulness to do this. At
the reunion, Yeah, like we know the rena, like we
hadn't really seen her be this fight.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I'm gonna believe in her, And this whole conversation, I
was like, I believe She's not gonna just let him
walk right back into her life. She's gonna hold him
to it. He's gonna have to work if he wants
back in. So then Amanda goes to Pagean's here's bed.
Tom Schwartz is still there chatting. By the way, he's
been here for hours, and Amanda's like, yo, I had
to leave. The kitchen got awkward with jesse and and Lexi,

(55:31):
and Schwartz is like, oh, jesse is really defeated, and
Sierra goes, good, you should be and then she Schwartz
is like, I think we all stay out of it,
and everyone's like, yeah, we're too Honestly, I think the
girls were too hungover to fucking deal.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
They were like whatever, it's like, I'm not gonna bring
up the topic. But if he's talking shit, they will
say something back.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Well yeah, but also we're not gonna get out of bed.
We're too hungover.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
It's not for them.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So Gabby then comes into this awkward kitchen and Gabby's
like like, I'm happy to tap in anyone need me,
and Lindsay says like, look, I think Lexi Jesse to
have a lot of love for each other. And Lexi's
face is pure disgust. She's like try again, and Gabby
and Lindsay both try to explain the situation to Jesse

(56:18):
of like you were saying things around that.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
And very calmly and like very like so calmly, no
like yelling, like bubble wrapped version, Like he didn't really
have to take a lot of accountability. He could have
just been like, hey, I'm really sorry I talked about
you to other people, like served up an apology in
an easy route for him, and he's just like for
those of.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
You who might also like for some reason, I watch
the show and just like listen to our recaps, we
are yelling more than Gabby and Lindsey did right now,
like truly, truly, it was the nicest and these men.
This also proves Menu suck. Jesse's like, because.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
This is the benefit Jesse being friends with these people,
and they're prioritizing I think their friendship with Jesse not
a bad way, but being like, hey, I just want
to talk to you and like make sure you get this,
like as your friend, I'm on your side, and he
just like will not play ball with them, no.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Because then like like Carl and Wes and Kyle are
also here, and Lexi's few ma man, She's like grab
some popcorn, sit and watch, you know, like whatever. So
Gabby explains the situation of like you have these like
yellow flags with Lexi, like you told everyone in the
house but her, and then like that doesn't bode well
for your future relationship. It makes Lexi feel very like

(57:37):
almost alienated from the rest of the house, you know,
like all this stuff, and Jesse just goes mm hm,
and Gabby's like, you don't have to shut down, though,
We're just like telling you the situation as you have
asked us to explain.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You clearly don't want to understand what her perspective is
and like want to resolve it, like you just don't
want to be yelled at.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, And Jesse's like, I just don't want to fight,
and Gabby's like, this isn't a fight, this is a conversation.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You can just respond back that I don't want to
fight with you, babe. I'm not fighting with you. Do
you want to see me fighting with you? Because like
that's the whole experience.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
You've seen fights in this house before, it's not this.
And then this pisses Lexi off and she's like he
can't fight it because he doesn't understand. That's why, like
I don't want to date him, Like she straight up
says it, he can't understand what he's doing, so I
don't want to date him, and Gabby agrees, like Jesse
just doesn't comprehend what's happening. And then Wes is just

(58:32):
kind of like, hey, what what is the conflict? I
think Wes might come in late and he's like, what
are we what's the original conflict? And Lexi says, Jesse
has been talking about all this stuff to everyone in
the house and it makes her seem crazy, but then
says the opposite to her, and she can't trust and
says that she can't trust anyone in this house, which
is sir. I had to pause. This is the other

(58:55):
place I had to pause. You're trying to literally alienate
her so she only has you. Yeah, that's it. That's
so dangerous. That is dangerous abusive behavior.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I think his insecurity is wanting like he wants to
be her everything, and so I don't think he realizes
he's doing this. I think just his insecurity, yes, like that.
To be honest, I find it way more scary. Well,
I mean both are scary in different rights, but like
this is where I feel like you can't work with

(59:30):
him and you don't want to be in a relationship
with someone who has no idea what they're doing and why.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
No, like truly not like this because he can't grow,
he can't have empathy towards you and like where you're
coming from.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, like you can't ask for that out and like
fix the patterns, Like you can't work with anybody who
just won't see your perception, your feelings, like anything that's
going on.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I also think he wants to alienate Lexi, not only
just so he's her everything. But aliena her in the
house because then he controls the narrative of their relationship.
He controls these are his friends, and he controls that
narrative with them. He can't like share friends.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
So true, because like she doesn't know about reality TV.
So like he's had a year under his belt, and
if if eight people are saying this story and she's
saying this story, like his will overpower hers with the
interviews and the conversations that are going to be shown,
like he knows not everything's going to be shown on camera,
and like you need a narrative for it to like

(01:00:30):
actually be shown. So if they're having a different conversation
on their own, it's not probably going to be picked
up unless it fits the greater storyline of a show.
And that's just what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Right, Like he wants to he wants to be able
to controlling that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
It is such abusive behavior, Like this is not okay,
And I hope Lexi shows up to the reunion in
a crazy revenge dress like everyone does, but she deserves it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Do you think he looked at what happened to Wes
last year and so like, oh, a big problem was
that Sierra had a backing and like, I can't let
that happen to me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Maybe, I think I think a lot of I think
the most dangerous thing about Jesse is a lot of
it is like he's unconscious or like, so it's in
his subconscious that he's like not doing it on purpose,
but he's like doing it, but he's still doing it selfishly.
It's kind of weird. It's kind of crazy, like because
we talk about there's a ton of dangerous men we

(01:01:26):
watch on our screens constantly, but just to go to
like Vander Pumpers, like Tom Sandibal, I think is a
dangerous man in a sense, but he also is aware
of his I think he knows exactly what he's doing
all of the time, right, so like he knows he's
being whatever, manipulative, crazy, blah blah blah, but he can
acknowledge that. You know, it can probably grow and he's

(01:01:47):
probably not heys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Like that manipulative. I think he gets manipulative to cover
things up, like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
A to find himself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, where it's like Jesse's just doing this
preemptive do it, yeah, but he like isn't aware of it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Like it's the craziest thing to watch it because, like,
like I said, we see so many shitty men, and
I'll say, like ninety percent of them know what they're doing, right,
ninety percent of them are laying the bread crumbs right, like,
but there's one one of occasionally that pops up and
you're like, that's crazy, dude, Like he he cannot see it.

(01:02:24):
He's clearly never been to therapy, he's never had a
look at his own actions. He's never been held accountable
for the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Lack of self awareness. Is it's terrifying. It's terrifying, Like,
like I think I said this in a comment on
our Instagram, like can you imagine if this wasn't all
recorded or even there's conversations that aren't recorded, like you're
questioning everything, like this is crazy. Lexi is kind of
lucky to be able to go to that reunion and
say you said this, we all saw this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah. No, like the fact that people are in real
relationships with these types of people. I'll even say, I
think Craig Conover fucking sucks, but I think he does
things preemptively that he knows about, right. He knows some plantasies.
He's very smart, he's cunning like that. Again, I just
think Jesse like doesn't even realize how insane he is,

(01:03:15):
but he is. And that's the most dangerous because he'll
never see your side of things. He'll never know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
What I'm scared about is he's gonna be so manipulative
at that reunion and just give us some like white
boy tears and like I'm so sorry, I know see
what I did, but like it's just performative. Like I
think he's just gonna show up, give some apology. I
think he's gonna cry and like want to like wipe
the slate clean. But it's giving me Jax Taylor to

(01:03:41):
be honest, like those early years where he did all
really start and would want to like just say sorry
and move on, and because like he was likable, we
all did and we would give him another chance, but
he would do nothing to change anything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
The thing, though, I love about the Bravo fan base
is that we hold no man with any kind of
love or care at this point, because here's the thing,
what Wes did was shitty for sure, terrible, and we
have dogged him for a year at this point of
just dragging him and what he did, I'm telling you

(01:04:16):
right now, I'm picking Wes ten out of ten times
compared to Jesse. This man deserves to the Jack Taylor
treatment times ten at this point, like in twenty twenty four. No, no, no, sir,
this is crazy. And at least Jacks goes to I
don't know ky therapy. Jesse hasn't even done shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
That was so performative. No, he did not do anything.
He always said he would go to therapy. He never
really did anything. And even now he's still so fucking performative.
Here in present day, it's so gross. You will do
anything but actually take accountability.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
And what's in a Jackson yess. But like whatever we
did to Jacks and Wes, we need to die.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Up, and what we did to Jack Taylor in the
early years, you need to actually hold this man's feet
to the fire. Those his stupid songs. Not listening to him.
I don't want to interact.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Here's the thing your castmates might forgive you the Bravo Universe.
I hope never does. I hope never does.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
It's a stain on your reputation forever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Oh my god, I never want to date this man.
Remember when I was like, I'm kind of no I'm wrong.
I'm wrong, except about Wes. I'll die on the hill anyway.
So whatever, So Lexi is, we're all explaining to Wes
that's where we left off, what yes, the problem is,
and Lexi mentions that Jesse got mad at Lexi for

(01:05:40):
last weekend for apparently flirting with you Wes at the club,
and Wes kind of has a look of like what
the fuck, and he in his interview he's like, maybe
we hugged. I don't even remember. And I was really
hoping like Wes would at this point be like, damn, dude,
my friend is crazy, you know, like just have a

(01:06:01):
moment like I need.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Men to start calling men out truly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
So that's what I was hoping we'll get to what
actually happens. But at this point I was like, I
hope Wes is like, dude, this dude's fucking crazy, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I wish what Wes said in his interview, he said
in the house, like yes, we didn't flirt, like or
even just definitive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Or even right here, be like, dude, we didn't flirt.
What were you talking about? But of course Jesse's like
that's not even true. And Lexi's like what and I too,
was like, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
But then he says, like what he said, and I'm like,
that not good. That's not good either.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
He was trying to compare it to his behavior from
the weekend. Lexi was gone except for the toe sucking,
which was I know that that's wrong, and Lexi's pissed.
Lexi is so mad, and she says, this is why
everyone asked why an't you boyfriend and girlfriend? This is
why because Jesse has fat ass red flags and she

(01:06:59):
doesn't want to be his girl.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
And I went incredible speaking of it, incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Just let's get rid of the term exclusive. Lexi doesn't
want to be exclusive with him anymore. She's done and
I went to break up at the kitchen in front
of everyone. Is amazing. Do it more. Let's normalize dumping
men in public, because I've said it before. A woman's
greatest fear is an angry man, and a man's greatest
fear is to be embarrassed, specifically by a woman. So

(01:07:29):
let's publicly embarrass the fuck out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Oh my god, it was incredible. Like Sudhouse loves a
dinner time fight, but to be honest, over any table
they love to fight, so This was enjoyable just from
the like spectacle, but I I agree like shoving in
that man's face, like we're done here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
He embarrasses you to the whole house. Let's fucking embarrass
him back. If I was Lexi or Gabby, I wouldn't
be able to contain my excitement. I would have started clapping. Wait,
I've been like, yeah yet it. I'm like immediately, there's
no way I'm holding back. Yeah. We sitting there and
she's like, good job. I was like, no, I bring
out the sparklers where that was a nosing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
His ego is so fucking fragile. He probably would have
started crying. If if they did.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
That, Oh my god, I would have called the upstairs crew.
I would have been like, yo, you just missed it.
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I would even shouting to the top being like, hey, ladies,
you're missing out on this announcement and I want to
make sure everybody knows, like, so just.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Kill Jesse Solomon. It was crazy, best scene.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I did have a little like oh no, like what
are they actually done? Because like, if she gives this
man grace, she's back on my shite list.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
I was kind of hoping she wouldn't I was like,
I don't think she will. At this point, I was like,
I don't think she will, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I just I'm worried because I knew. I knew in
any episodes we still have and we still haven't gone
that seen where Lexi yells at the dinner table, So
I'm like, what's gonna happen here? Ye gonna happen here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
So it's eleven thirty eight am, Lexi is done and
fucking loser. Kyle shows up and he's like, it's a Sunday,
take a beat, have a chat, and Lexi's like, no, everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Should tells them to stop yelling. It's like, we're not yelling, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Oh my god. When he says stop yelling and Gabby's like,
no one is yelling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Like why do why do Jesse and Kyle say that,
They're like, you're really arguing here, you're really yelling, and
it's like we're having a conversation that we're passionate about.
That doesn't mean we're yelling at someone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
I love too, if someone tells me to stop yelling,
depending on the person in the situation, I love to
handle it in one of two ways. Either the way
they did. We're very calmly. I go, no one's yelling,
or I go, you want to see yelling? And I
start yelling. I go, oh, you thought I was yelling before?
Jokes on you. I'm a about to fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Boy, I'm gonna start now, bitch a scene.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
You think I'm causing a scene, Let's cause the scene.
Let's do it. You've seen it up. Let's call all
the girls. Hey, you guys, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I feel like I would have really started the thing going,
and I would have read it all back up and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Been like, let's vote. Who thinks I'm causing a scene?
Before this? You think? So? Here I go, let's let's
just yell. If everyone already thinks a woman's yelling, let's just.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Let me just prove it right. Because why am I
gonna like make Why are you gonna yell at me
for something I'm not doing? You can yell me for
something I'm actually doing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Why would I sit here and talk calmly and try
to convince you I wasn't yelling. You want me yelling? Hey, Hey, wish,
your wish is my command, baby doll. Let's do this,
girly pop.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
You haven't seen anything. I was so pissed at Kyle.
I was like, shit, the fuck down, you idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
But he's like, let's have a chat, and like She's like, no,
we just had a chat. Everyone should be involved if
we're gonna do a fucking chat since the whole house
is anyway, and Gabby's she also tries to look at
Kyle and be like, sit back down, goodbye. And then
this is when Kyle says, let's pipe down a little,
and I went kill him, kill him, kill him, kill

(01:11:14):
him right on the spot. Carl somehow moved up in
my ship length because because he he shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
For It's annoying because men look good because of in comparison.
The other men in this house make themselves look like idiots.
So the others rise to the top, and it's like
they're only look good in comparison. It's Schwartz the best
guy on this screen this episode. And then we got Carl,

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and then like West, and then Kyle, and then Jesse,
like you all suck em.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Will always be my number one. He has memory. Oh
my god, I don't ever tell me to pipe down.
I will pipe I will grab a pipe and hate
right up with it. I'm gonna pipe right up. Take
this pipe, fucking kill you with it. And then I'm

(01:12:13):
to the police that I did. It was a leisha
in the kitchen with the lead pipe. It was me,
don't tell me to pipe down again. Oh I'm I'm
actually sweating. No. I was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Actually when Kyle talking, I was like, how dare you?
I defended you and said that you were good when
people were angry and you sort things out and you
proved me fucking wrong and you never to trust a man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I'm actually sweating anyway. And this is when Lexi's like
she kind of turns and she's like leaving. She was like,
feel insane, and I was like, girl, we literally And
then that's when Carl somehow again moves up on my
shit list. He's like, it's this house. We've all been there,
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
I really liked him saying that because I think it
validated what she was feeling and being like we have
all been there, like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
It's the house, Like besides, you think you're crazy, it's
you know, it's okay. So it's twelve twenty two pm.
It's time to leave. Jesse and West go upstairs. Jesse's
like that kitchen was brutal. And I was like, that
was so easy. Oh you want brutal, let me loop brabo,
let me loosen this house. I'll show brutal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
I was so angry those girls weren't there because like, yeah,
they got off. He got off scott free because nobody
was saying what he actually said because he doesn't have
a memory. And all three of those girls who have
heard it were upstairs, which like is kind of fine,
but like we need a serious talk still. I still
want this talk where the girls are like, this is
what you said to us.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Brutal is Kyle drunkenly walking up the stairs and Page
yelling at him, going, why can't she have a swimsuit?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Lined?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Let her fail? Like that was a little brutal, Right,
Brutal is Dan yelling and see our fighting at the
dinner table and as thrown at someone brutal brutal is
Page reading Austin to filth because he shut the door
in her face, Like that's brutal. This was very easy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yeah, the fuck a crack of an egg.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Okay, I think we take a vote. All the brothers
to us, all the problems, all the problem people who
listen to this, I say, next summer if we have
this same cast, because it's dependent on that we do
twenty minutes. Meredith and I are let loose in this
house and we give them the opportunity or the experience

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of brutality, and then we leave right here twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Let me build on that idea. Okay, paintball guns. Boys
are standing against the wall, and we confront them with
the things that they have done in the past, and
they have to tell us what they did wrong and why.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Oh no, I like that, but I want to yell
at them. We could do both. We could do both.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Listen, we are we can multitask, babe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I want to make them cry emotionally, and then you
physically come back with a paintball because I could do it.
It would be light work for me. Yeah, like seventeen
page email, who I'm coming with a novel of shit
you've done to me and to the other girls, because
you know I'm accosted by you too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
It's like the movie Night on Love Island, Like give
me the blow up projector let's roll the tapes and
then we can legit discuss it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
But a live roasting after, Oh, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
That'd be greatambo of the girls, roasting the guys, us
confronting them with their behavior, showing the tapes, and when
they get things wrong or we just are annoyed in general,
we fire off insults and you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Know what, let's just punish them. They are required to
listen to this podcast episode specifically because they've all fucking
committed crimes against us this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
They have all committed crimes against humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Truly, truely trash. And I say, if they are listening,
if the punishment gets implemented, you all fucking suck. You're
worth nothing. My sad, pathetic life is worth more than yours.
And I have maybe ten followers on Instagram. No one
likes me, and I'm more beloved than you. That's real talk.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
That felt nice to hear Because've been deep and uh
Handmaid's Tale, and so I'm just like full, oh suck,
oh terrible, So like also need to listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
We have to talk about something different, I know. Anyway,
So Jesse's like, I was so brutal. Wes is like,
do you agree with what she's saying? And Jesse's like
not at all. Clearly she had flashes for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
This is where I was like, your your delusion on hers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Yeah, and Jesse's like, the way she's acting is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
I hate when people do that. I hate when people
do that. He's turning it around on her, like she's
the causing these problems. Your actions were what started this.
She's having a reaction to you and your I know,
like making that the bigger deal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
He's literally crazy. I cannot describe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
There's like a anagram of like how like narcissists like
turn things against people. And I'm not saying because I
think the word narcissist is like overused, but like there
are like clear ways that people like turn it back
on the person who is having a reaction to what
they've done and then become the victim themselves. Like Jesse
is in that era of like shifting it into he's

(01:17:34):
the victim of LEXI like being upset. And it's like, well,
why do you think she's upset, sir? What do you
think she's fucking upset about?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Dare I say he's a bigger villain than sand of all,
He's this man is scary anyway. So Jesse then says,
I knew I should have just talked shit to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
You Wes and Wes like much better.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Is like, look, your best out is to just say
sorry and move on, like just to apologize, and he
goes and like it's like, oh, if LEXI wanted to
make it work, then what And Jesse's like, I would
work on it if she really want to make it work.
But it's more negative than positive right now, and Wes
is like, yeah, dude, I'm with you. It's not even

(01:18:21):
worth it. And I'm like, I hate men. You don't
hold other men.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
I thout them all, yeah, look at.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Your friend and be like, bro, you should apologize. It's
kind of crazy. I don't know what you could even
do it, Like look, I'm not really sure what happened,
Like I'll watch the show back eventually, lol, but for
right now, I think it's best. Like she's obviously feeling
some sort of way, like apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Is like you don't have to crucify I am as
your friend, but you could, like Wes could say, hey,
she's clearly upset hearing that you have been saying stuff
and maybe rightfully so to like the girls, but like
her feelings are hurt, so like just go apologize for
hurting her feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
But no, the way she's acting is ridiculous. So it's
time to leave. Thank God. We say goodbye to everyone,
including Tom Schwartz, who is his ride is a little late,
so he is waiting on the steps. Love him, Love him,
my dear child, Tom Schwartz. So then we're back in

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New York City. It's Monday. Danielle is here with Lindsay
at her doctor's appointment. Danielle is dressed so nice to
the tents for a doctor's appointment. Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Also, this gave me excitement for like a version of
the Valley like show for this cast, like them in
this city just doing their stuff. Like I was, like,
I loved seeing Danielle and Lindsay together a doctor's appointment
like normal people things.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Well, it's also lovely because they're like, we're in such
a different place than we were last year because you know,
they were fighting, they weren't friends. And then Lindsay's also
like and I was almost dumped at the altar basically,
and I was like, literally.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
It's crazy, like the last two years of their friendship diabolical.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
And I gotta say for Danielle and Authur flaws, she
is pretty funny because then she looks at Lindsay. She goes,
at least for your next wedding, you'll have a normal
flower girl cracking up because if you all remember the
last one was Kyle him and Luke flower or Andrea
flower boys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
I never connected Kyle being a flower boy to his
new drink flower boy. What like drink is like called
flower boy? And I was like, holy shit, like a
kind of funny. Yeah, Oh that's genius.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
He's what he's good at what he does. If he
if he could just act better, people would support his
business more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
I want I want the business Kyle in like everyday life.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Yeah, influencer Kyle's not it. It's it's not happening. Okay.
So then we see the Bay baby. Lindsay gets really
emotional talking about her baby, and then I got kind
of emotional. Why do I feel like I know these people?
It's so creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
We have a parasocial relationship with them. We've seen nine
years of their life. It is like really cool to
see Lindsay finally become a mom because that's what she
has wanted for so long.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
On her timeline, Danielle asks about what kind of terror
is Lindsay gonna get? Can we know that when the
baby gets pushed out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
My friend I was like, I don't want to think
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
It was so funny because Lindsay's like, is there anything
I can do to prevent it? And the doctor's like, yeah,
you could start massaging the area the vagina, and Lindsay's like, oh,
kind of like a fingerbang, and I was dying laughing together.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
The first green light that maybe Carl and Lindsay could
be friends because if she can joke about little things
in their relationship, I mean, that was the relationship numero uno,
but like if she can look back at the history
and kind of laugh about just yeah, the generalness of
her and Carl, I feel like one day they could
be friends again.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
They did it friendlier, they did it three times this
when Lindsay's like last year, I was basically dumped at
the altar, that was funny. And then when they were like,
we'll have a normal flower girl at the next wedding,
it was these two were funny, And I think it's
because like they're so comfortable, Like no one else can
joke with Lindsay like this Excepted.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
It's like very funny. Okay, So then it's Wednesday and
Jesse is at Lexi's apartment and I was like no,
but I said, there are cameras here, so we're not alone.
We're not alone at least, so we're here to talk.
Jesse was just so shocked when Lexi was angry at him.

(01:22:48):
He didn't like that Lexi made him out to be
a monster, and Lexi says, but you see, you were
kind of the monster in my story. Like you said it,
you were a monster. And Jesse doesn't know if Lexi
can trust him again. And I was like, oh, he's
gonna break up with her, but do the thing where
he's like, you can't trust me, so I should go,

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you know, where he like puts it on her.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
But I would actually like that because I think Lexi
already doesn't really want to be with him, and so
if he's not drifting and like trying so hard, I
don't think they would get back together. Yeah, I think
his ego can't handle her ending it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Yeah. But then Jesse's like, look, I know I should
have sucked anyone's toe. And I was like, literally, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Anymore like we've moved on to diminish what you did
by talking behind her back, because you're like that was
actually a big deal, Like he's only owning up to
that to diminish the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
And he didn't even like owning up to that. He
blamed Emerald for saying something about it, and that he
Emerald was the one that said suck his toe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
And that's like a horse that we'd beaten debt. So
he's like finally willing to say he did it because
we like had to have weeks of talking about it
and how that was inappropriate. Every person said that was inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Literally scream cry, bang my head against a wall.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
I why is the toe being brought up?

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Like, I cannot stand him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
My eye roll would have just been so crazy they
it probably would have been stuck. My eyes would have
been behind my head because I would have just been
like I can't anyway. So Jesse says he's so sorry
he didn't realize what he was doing and he messed up,
and he likes let's see so much and doesn't want
them to stop seeing each other based off actions he took.

(01:24:33):
And when I tell you, I screamed because I said,
the reason you would break up or stop seeing someone
is because of actions you do against that person that's
the exact definition of breaking up. Hey, no, on, no
one's breaking up because like the season change, we're breaking

(01:24:54):
up because you did something shitty, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Don't want to see us break up because you do.
Oh yeah, you're treating me poorly. Like again, he's just like,
oh because of a little slip up or like it's
like I just he keeps diminishing it like it's no
big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
One of the best part, I bet the action he's
talking about is the toe.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
I still think I think he thinks that that's the
biggest deal in the world, and it's like I think,
I think genuinely Lexi has moved past that. I think
I realized that that was a very situational thing too.
It was inappropriate she talked about it. I am more
concerned about you shit talking me because that will happen
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
And not acknowledging it and then telling me. I'm most
concerned with him telling Lexi that she shouldn't trust everyone
in the house. That's insane. I know if I was
Lexi's friend, I would be like, no, girl, no.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
No, no, the toe thing, because for me, it's like, Okay,
you did a dumb thing, but it's the aftershocks of
everything after and same with this. It's like, Okay, you
got caught, you were shit talking her, but like if
you just could, you didn't have to give the best
apology in the world. I know, like any apology. We
are all like prim and proper with how we expect
people to give apologies when we all also go to

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it the same way. But he has given nothing. It
wasn't that hard to get out of this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Ruly, he could have done like even and I'm sorry,
but but yeah, he didn't even add the butt he got.
Sorry but oh so. Lexi says she doesn't want to
fight in relationships because it exhausts her. But she just
doesn't think that her and Jesse are combatible, and Jesse's like, oh,
but we have a great connection. He just wants to

(01:26:41):
fuck her. I've said it this beginning, but and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Now he doesn't want to look like a bad guy.
He's like trying to ride this out, I think until
they finish filming and then end things. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
The worst part is we know they dated in September.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I know, Alicia, I'm gonna put this out there. This
is just kind of I wonder if this is going
to happen, and this is how it happens. I am
going to be so upset that I'm on point with this.
But I think they go back to the house next weekend.
That's when they have that yelling fight at the dinner
table and it all gets aired out. I think Lexi
forgives him. They date into September. I think he breaks

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up with her.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I think so too. I mean, yeah, I think you're on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Point because I think that's why she is doing the
interviews she's doing and why she is like so upset
and kind of attacking Sierra in this because I don't
think she ended the relationship. So then I think she's
her and is taking it out on both of them,
rightfully so to him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
But I agree, But it doesn't seem like I mean,
I didn't watch all of what Watch What Happens Live.
I just saw clips, but it seems like Sierra has
watched and been like fuck Jesse Solomon. And she even
said she's like, I saw him at Coachella. We didn't
go together, but like we're just shorty friends.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Sierra said that like, looking back on it, it's not
as bad as she thought it was. Whenever it was
like being talked about in the house, which I agree.
I don't think the conversation Jesse actually had her like
it's the average. Yeah, it's just that, like when I
think it's the it's the disparity of like what he's
saying to her and what he's saying to his friends,
like and none. He won't own up to it. Yeah,

(01:28:12):
Like you're allowed to like shit talk people and you're
allowed to like have concerns about somebody you're interested in,
But when you're confronted with that, what are you gonna
do about it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
No, it's crazy. So Lexi says, this is a choice
they have to make, is it worth trying or not?

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
And I went when they said about that, I was like,
please do it's not it's not Please make the reports
be incorrect and like Jesse dated somebody else because I
just can't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
It's not worth it. I'm telling you, it's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
The good thing for us is we only have a
few more episodes, so it's not like we have to
see them really make up and be ouey guey. That
relationship is in the fall. We don't have to deal
with it, thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
But Lexi, girl, here's the thing. I I if you
get back with him, which I know you do, that's
a mistake. But at the end of the day, I
will have your any woman's back. I will these shitty
ass men, No, girl, you could do better. I'm gonna
I'm gonna be mad at you for a little, but
I'm gonna I'm gonna get over it and I'm gonna
walk you through this and I'm gonna cheer for you.

(01:29:12):
But you're gonna anger me. I know it. I know
you're gonna hear me out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Next season, they are all back in the house. Lexi
comes in and does like pulls an inroll and has
a different guy like every night, like Jesse just has
to watch it happen. And I want, like Lexi and
Sierra to have like a tough conversation and they're basically
gonna be like Lindsay and Sierra were for years, I think,
and then like maybe they do build a friendship.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
I do think a great thing about Sierra is even
if she's friends with a man, she still loves women
kind over that man, you know what I mean. So
I think I think Sierra might just be like, dude,
stop talking shit. But I think in the end she
will also acknowledge you, like Jesse's not shit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I don't think she's all that bothered. I think she's
on the way with all the comments. But if, like
Lexi dislikes her, I just don't think she holds onto
it the same way Lexi does.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Yeah, I don't think she's bothered, but I do think
at the end of the day, Sierra is always going
to pick a woman over a man. It doesn't matter
if she's friends with Jesse or and she's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
And people are like stopping upscon that she took a
picture with Lexi or with Jesse. It's not that big
of a deal. If you're like, she she cleared a
photo with him, she cleared up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
They did not go to Coachella together. They just saw
each other there, and she said, I think one of
the best dishes you can give someone who thinks they're
your friend is to say, like they're a good person
to party with, because you're not my friend. Really, then
we just go get job. I can't hang out with you.
Sober to day, So we cut to Thursday. Then we're

(01:30:40):
at lunch with Amanda and Kyle. Amanda tells us she
has she was feeling really lost last year struggling mentally
and professionally, but now she's in a really good place
with her medication. Her and Kyle are in a really
good place in the relationship. She's starting to find herself
again and she's figuring out what she wants, which I love.
Normalize this in your thirties, normalize this tip and your

(01:31:02):
which Amanda is in her thirties. She is the mom
of the of the girls of the Bad Girls, so
I love that. And Kyle tells her, He's like, hey,
I took a fertility test. I'm scared that I'm sterile basically,
and Amanda's like, okay, it is a scary thought, but
like it wouldn't be the end.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
And Kyle's like, what what are you talking about? It
would be the end of my world. And Amanda's like, look,
I'm in a weird place where like some days I wonder,
like why we're not already pregnant, and other days I
wonder if I should like even have kids. And it's
it's mainly because of like how Amanda has been struggling,
and she finds it really hard to take care of herself,

(01:31:43):
so like why would she add something else to take
care of into that mix. If she's having a hard
time with.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
It, I really appreciate. I appreciate the way she's thinking
about them, Like she's thinking about the really she would
have to care for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
And truly, I hate when people are like not having
kids is selfish. She is being selfless thinking about this.
She's like, how would I take care of this kid
and give them a good life if I'm myself, I'm
not having a good life right now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
That's the thing. She's like, I am not going to
be a mom unless I can commit everything to it
and me the best mom I could be, and like
right now, she's like, I can barely be good to myself.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Oh and I love And Kyle, though, he's like, hang on,
how long have you been feeling this way? And man,
it's like, I don't know, a year and he's like
a year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
I do agree with him. Maybe she should have said
something that is a long time, But I think it's
one of those intrusive thoughts sometimes where you're like, is
this how I feel? I don't know if this is
really how I feel, like because I'm depressed, I feel
this way.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
But she also says to Kyle, she's like you're not
itching to be a Yeah, like if this isn't a
conversation where maybe if Kyle had said, like, hey, I
want to start having a family, Amanda then could have
brought this up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Yeah, because he even hid his fertility testing from her,
not hid, But like it's only talking about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
If this is not a concern, I should be worried
about it, I'm not going to voice my Amanda hasn't
even come to like a conclusion on what she wants.
It sounds like, so why is she just gonna like
be like, hey, today I want to have kids and
then oh but yesterday I didn't, right, Like, yeah, there's
really no point to that. It's kind of the same thing, like, right,
if we're in a relationship and I'm scared of earthquakes,
why would I tell you about my fear of an

(01:33:20):
earthquake if we don't live in a place that has earthquakes?
Like it, like what the fuck? But it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
It kind of just like isn't coming up. And he's
a fucking me and child, So like, why are we
talking about kids when you can't even come home and
sleep in our bed.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
You were out till five am and then you fell
asleep on a couch the other day, Like, what are
we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Don't give him that much credit.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
It was a chair, You're right, sorry, So.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
His mouth was wide open.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Amanda doesn't love that she feels this way, but she
has to make sure she's okay first, and Kyle's like,
I like Kyle saying, He's like, okay, I'm not mad,
I'm just like processing this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Yes, I was very concerned when she first said that.
He was going to be like, you're taking kids away
from me?

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Terrible, And then he does say he's like, we've been
married three years, like time is ticking, and I was like,
that's not how that works. It's your biological clock, not
your marriage clock. Yeah. And also you were together for
six and you wouldn't pop the question.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Where were we at twenty five, my guy? Not even
you weren't even on the show at twenty five. Where
were we at thirty five?

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
My guy?

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
You weren't even engaged, Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Yeah? And but Kyle, just you said it before, he
really wants kids, but he doesn't want to be a dad,
but he wants those kids.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
And I think I've seen this before, and like I
forget if it was like a book or movie where
the girl realized she might be infertile and was like
scared to tell like the partner because like that's just
it's like sad when it like it's a sad thing
when it's like your fault, like and so like she
said it out loud and he was like, you're taking
this away from me, and it's like whoa, whoa. We

(01:35:00):
never even discussed kids, So like, I was so scared
Kyle was going to react that way a little bit.
But I am proud of him of how we reacted,
Like that is like a bomb if it's like whoa, wait,
we haven't talked about it, but I did dream this
life for us. What will our life look like now? Like,
let's discuss it. I might happy with the way he reacted.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Overall, I think Kyle can also acknowledge right like he
I mean he's been married to Amanda, he's been dating
her for how long, like he could probably tell, which
we all did on TV, but that Amanda has been
a little off. She was figuring out her depression. She
was very unhappy, and I imagine when you're married and
living with this person that's you see it extra right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Kyle is probably really supportive when Amanda.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Is depressed, So I think like he can probably acknowledge
that like, Okay, yes, that would not be the best
environment to bring a kid in. But also, like Kyle
also has to think, right, he's going to be running
a whole ass company and he was probably going to
expect Amanda to do most of the work. Do you
want to have a kid then with someone who's depressed,

(01:36:03):
can they take care of this kid? Like, it's something
that Kyle really needs to look at, And I do say.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
In her like fears over it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
I do think he prioritizes Amanda's mental health or at
least like tries to help her make it a priority.
So I would hope that he can see that, like,
for everyone's mental health, maybe this is not the best
and for this child's life, maybe it's not the best environment.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
I don't think Kyle would be the person to be
like it's your body. Like I think he's the type
of to be like, Okay, if you really don't want
to do this to your body, like I'm not going
to force you into that. Yeah, Like, I don't think
he would really be that angry if she said no,
I think it's just like this world he thought he
would have. It's like him processing the change of what
their world would look like, because he said, like in

(01:36:48):
his interview, you know, I built lover Boy for our
kid's future and all this stuff, so it's like just this.
I think he gets focused on an idea and he
commits to it so hard, which is really great. But
the change of the vision would be a transition.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Do you think because a lot of men have a
weird god complex about this, if if Kyle was sterile, right,
or if Amanda said, we could have a kid, but
I don't want to go through the pregnancy hormones or whatever,
do you think he would be okay with like adopting
and or like a surguate or using a sperm donor

(01:37:24):
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I truly think he would. I think it would be
a big shock, like similar to not having kids. I
think it would be a big transition for him just
because he has this vision in his head. But I
think he would adopt. I think sperm donor is harder
for some people to be like it's half of your kid,
but not mine. I think they would adopt over like

(01:37:45):
I think maybe men would sometimes This is just my opinion.
I don't have any facts about it, but I think
Kyle would adopt amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Okay, so next time Lindsey doesn't believe Carl hooked up
with anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I would will not take her foot off his neck.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
I literally want She's probably right, I think out loud
was like, what the whole the whole summer? He's like, oh,
I want to hook up. I haven't hooked up with
anyone from since Lindsay. And then he goes alone to
Montak and he's like, I did hook up with someone.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Suspicch I do wonder if he kind of woke up
in August and was like, shit, I've said a lot
of this stuff on camera, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
We said, lie about it, lie about.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Yes, Yeah, hilarious. Linday's like, I'm gonna call him out
whether it's true or false.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
She doesn't even care. She's like, for fun, for fun,
I'm just gonna do it. Jesse and Lexi are still
working it out, and Sierra won't let Jesse off so easy,
So let's do fun not fun? Can we just get
that fun? It's it's a double, it's Jesse, it's Jesse.
I mean wait, I always wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
To show the records at the end of season because,
like I swear, it's been Jesse for me every.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Time Jesse and I'm gonna just throw him car al though,
because he gets oh my god, I want to die.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
I already forgot about him because Jesse was that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
I'll never forget. Optimal level is the new tanline terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
You will never let me forget.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Never. Okay, who's your fun? Though? There was a good
amount I would say, can I go?

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Yeah, you go first.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
I'm picking Lexi. I was cheering in my seat. I
she better not get back with him, because then she
might have to be my not fun. But it was
amazing she. I was having a blast watching her. Like
I said, if I was there, hype woman number one,
I am yelling her. I'm like and and keep going, girl,

(01:39:48):
don't stop. Now let me get you Kyle's megaphones. You
can say other oh my god. I would have made
Kyle put on a beat to her. It would have
sounded like a wrap out all balloons. I had the
best time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Well, you might get to experience it again during the
the reunion. In a man out. I'm going with Sierra
because if you remember, she came into this weekend skirting Jesse,
like trying to hug her because we don't touch anymore,
and she pushed him off so fast, like you are
not going to pity me, you can fuck ride off.

(01:40:22):
And they didn't even make up, like when they were
leaving the house, he didn't make up with her, Like
there's still beef between those two, and that really knows
how to hold a grudge.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
As there should be. Okay, so we have some thoughts
from our patrons. So Lindsay R says, love this episode.
Good to see Lexis. Oh this was last week, sorry,
but it's everything tight and it was still the same day.
It felt like, yeah, yeah, good to see Lexi's side

(01:40:51):
of the instant stuff. And then her calling out Jesse
for making her look like the bad one. He just
cannot empathize that talking shit behind her back might hurt her.
Kind of similar how Wes couldn't understand how talking to
the New York Times might hurt Ara. Ooh, and I'm
caught my love of West has been called out again.
I get it. Glad these the girls are supportive of Lexi.

(01:41:14):
For some reason, I keep thinking about Andrea and how
he would never treat a girl like this. Oh I'm missing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
I mean even if he did, like remember when he
kind of snubbed Maya, he immediately apologized, immediately corrected his behavior.
Like nobody needs to be perfect, but like be better.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Andrea is one of those men that does not qualify
as a loser or a weirdo from what I've seen
so far.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
I mean, he's fucking gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
It's beautiful. I know. Anyway, Okay, so tonight's episode, Amy
Jones said Snoozefest seemed like a fun party, but I
found this episode pretty boring. It truly was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
I don't know. I love when they fight.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Jesse has no idea how to be in a relationship.
Five weeks in he should be talking Letsie up to
everyone and being annoying with how into her he is
not nitpicking. Save that for later in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
That's so true. It's been five.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Weeks literally at least a year in just wait. Okay,
so Amy's fun ist Sierra. I love her clear expression
of boundaries and her care for Carl. Come on anyway, Sorry,
it's just a Carl issue, not fun Jesse or Schwartz,
why was he there he added nothing, which made him
the perfect man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
You know what I had. He added some humor to
the episode that I really needed.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Oh and then Amy ends with quick plug for joining Patreon.
Do it. I'm having the best time listening to recaps
of old seasons. I'm in vander Pump season three. I
listened as I'm falling asleep. It's delightful. Oh my god,
what a terrible thing to do, Amy, He just yelled
at you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
I noticed. This is really smart. People will like the
episodes that they've listened to to like keep track of
like what they are, because on Patreon it's harder to tell,
like there isn't a listen to like obviously in like
Apple podcasts, but you can also touched the RSS feed
to your Apple podcasts, so they all come through. Oh
a patron told me to launch it on our side,

(01:43:07):
so I.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Know it well. Amy, I'm so sorry if you fall
asleep to this episode though, because I yelled a lot.
It's yeah, tell you anyway. Amy says, it's delightful like
I'm listening to my friend's gossip in the next room. Oh,
I love that. I'll take that. And I'm having very
funny dreams with cameos for the cast. Oh God, dreams,

(01:43:30):
you're gonna get okay, Megan Dee said, Jesse is a prick.
How are you gonna tell Sierra of all people, that
you were flirting with her out of pity? That girl
doesn't need your pity. Have you seen her if you
weren't on the show, she wouldn't acknowledge your presence. No, truly,
that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
I always say, like Page with Boliaus, but like Sierra
would look right through me. Oh, I'm not pretty enough
to be seen by.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
No never, But she loves women, so I think she
would support you just out of you being a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
But like her and her like walking in New York City,
she would just be like I think if like I
was at like a meet and greet, she'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Like, Hi, she I have met her at a meet
and greet. She was very nice. She was great. Snoozefest
was the best. Sierra handled the Carl situation well. She
let him down, but gave him some hope. No see no,
no hope that I hope he doesn't linger on because
I'm team Sierra needs a non Bravo boy. Agreed Tom

(01:44:26):
should come back for another weekend. I actually enjoyed him
being there, weirdly saying, I agreed Tom and Kyle talking
about being in their sixties when their kids are in
their twenties, and I felt like, I'm in my thirties
without kids, but I have two dogs. No same. I
thought about it and went one, I'm too old to
have kids now, so I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
But they also say the age if they had kids
right that minute, like, we all know you, neither of
you were having kids in the next year.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Yeah, one of you is single and the other one
might be sterile. What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Single and sterile? Like dying?

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Megan says, Lexi's making valid points. Jesse made his own bed.
He can deal with that now. Oh my god. Danielle
and Lindsay at the Opie office, Amanda's making valid points
about not being ready for kids, and Jesse's showing up
like a lost puppy at Lexi's apartment. No literally pathetic Okay,
And last one, Lindsay R says the way Carl said

(01:45:23):
he has a crush on Sierra was awkward, but way
less awkward than I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Agree. I did notice that too. It could have been
way worse at the start of this season.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
And her letting him down easy by saying she wants
to dat a stranger was a nice way of saying
she doesn't want to go there. I sincerely hope she
never does. Carl is a giant ic. Thank you, Lindsay. Anyway,
she goes on to say when Page said she would
kill Jesse, I could not believe he said. What specifically
did I do? I wanted to throw something at my TV?

(01:45:55):
How can he be so obtuse? Oh my god? And
the Ariana meme, You're being so obtuos anyway, more of
the same stupidity from him in the kitchen combo, the
combo with Wes after her apartment. He just doesn't understand
Wes with the candle. I would have fallen for Wes
if I was sierr last summer too. And he continues

(01:46:15):
to be so funny. I want to hate him for
how he handled the breakup, but he's just so likabule
I know, Lindsay, I struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
With this dude was so annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Lindsay, I followed him on Instagram and TikTok, like what
am I doing? Anyway? Last comment from Lindsay maybe Amanda
is having second thoughts about kids because it would tie
her to Kyle forever. Oh no, I think she's in it. Girl.
Weird seeing him upset when it's kind of his fault

(01:46:49):
they didn't do it years ago. No, literally, he could
have twelve kids by now if you just like was
a dad.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
You know, if you just showed up at home on time,
that's it. I honestly think that's how blow the bar is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Eep you ever, just like do like a little eep,
you know. But great. I hate men. Bravo has taught me.
I don't eat them. I hate them. There's no point
in them. They're all the useless. Ones are the best,
the time schwartz of it, all the useless.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
I can't wait till we are like it won't be
in our lifetime, we know this, but till women truly
rule the world, and they're gonna look back on this
as like a moment in time in history, and they're
gonna be like crazy these things.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
My favorite debate is when they do this a lot
on the streets, a man with a microphone will be like,
do you think the world would survive if all the
men went missing and all the women are like yes, and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
The men are like scared of The men.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Are like no, and they're like, do you think the
world would work out if all the women went missing?
And the men are like, of course it would, because
we do construction and we run worlds, and the girls
are like, dude, if you would just give us the chance,
we could do it better if.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
You just got out of the way.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Behind every single not even great man, behind every single
man that has accomplished literally wiping his ass, there's a
woman behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Well, I mean for starters, we birth of them all,
Like you literally want to be on this planet without women?

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Oh my god. I did see an interview where someone
said that because they was like, oh, who's the richest
person in the world, Jeff Bezos, Who's the smartest person
in the world, Bill Gates? And those are all men?
And then this girl was like, yeah, but women gave
birth to them. And the guy was like, I cannot compute,
and the girl was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Like, we could keep the population going. We have enough
sperm banks.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Literally, you let us let us know when you're no.
We have the sperm banks. But like, if you give
us a twenty four hour notice, we'll just capture all
your sperm, and then we're good forever. And then we'll
just have we'll give birth to boys and we'll raise
that raise them to be correct. It's it's like not
that bad. And the best part is because you would

(01:48:59):
raise a man great, but he's gonna have shitty friends
somewhere along the line. That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Like if they're always correctly from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Yes, if they're all raised by.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
I like want somebody to do like a scientific study
where they like kind of start a new.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Can we know, can we restart the population? I'm not
I would be more inclined to have kids if I
knew they were being raised by all women in an
all women society.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Don't even have to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Yeah, keep your five thousand dollars. I don't even need that.
I got it. Thank you. I agree anyway, this has
been so fun. But do all the things I meant
If you liked this, if you were like, I could
do more. We have tons of other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
Go check out when you go to bed too.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
I couldn't think of anything worse. But if you're into it,
I could. If you're running and listening to us, that's
the other one that's crazy. But do whatever you got
to do it through the day.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Yep, well, love you than for joining. Bye.

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