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May 9, 2025 99 mins
Alicia and Meredith watch as Kyle receives medical news, Jesse tries to repair his friendship with Ciara, and West opens up about his grief. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it of up.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh no, no, no true, you'll never guess, so sidebar yes.
And also I feel like I shouldn't have to remember
everything I know. Actually I have to talk about this
two one. Hi everyone.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey, I'm Malaysia and I'm Meredith.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And this is also podcast Summerhouse Edition, Season nine, episode thirteen.
I think we have like two.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Left, two more two regular episodes left, expect two reunions
because they finally did release. I think Miami is taking
over the Summerhouse slots, so that's how I really knew
when the Sunday would be.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
This is I don't know how I feel about this season.
I think there are good moments, but I think the
overall season is kind of terrible.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
See. I was thinking about the show and thinking we've
gotten to some really dark places with some other shows
where everything has to be so dramatic, and I will
say I don't like I am enjoying this season for
nothing chaotic happening. I think this is the one show
that when it's boring, I still like enjoy seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
These agreed agreed, but it's just not memorable, like when
someone like ten years from now, when my kids are
like I'm not going to have kids, but you know
what I mean ten years from now, when a kid
is like, what was a memorable part of Summerhouse. I
won't pick any moment from this season.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I will say page double backing around and ready to
chew Kyle out for a second time, will live rent
free in my head?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't think so. I see, I even forgot that
was this season.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I will ever because that the dress she was wearing,
I'm like, Girly was wearing full hite.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I was just telling Meredith how like I just watched
this episode this morning before recording, and I already thought.
I was like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Remember why Yeah, no, this one especially is missible, like
I miss, I always go back agree like there were
no quotes that inspired me. There was nothing. I was like,
oh my god, I need to take a picture of this,
and like I didn't laugh at that.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Loud that hard. It was very like, oh funny. But
I sometimes I'll like step like pause and actually crack
up because we have to take notes. So I don't
want to miss anything that did happen the.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Sor or I think like, oh my god, I want
to know what Alicia says about this, or I wonder
what the Internet saying about this? Yeah, yeah, no, nothing,
there was nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
All right? Great? Before we get into this episode the
snooze of an episode. We have an Instagram of TikTok
and YouTube, a Patreon. All those things are not snoozes.
You go check those out. There's tons of content on there.
Go eat it up. What else are you doing like
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please be sure to rate, review, subscribe. Okay, Meredith, let's

(02:43):
get into this episode.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Bore of an episode.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So previously on Summer House, Karl I'm not a cute girl.
Kyle wants kids, but he might be sterile. Jesse's in
hot water with all the girls. Lexi found out about
all the shit Jesse's been talking about her and she
can front him, but Jesse wants to keep sleeping with her.
Or he says he cares about her, but he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Anyway, fread between the lines. Jesse bent he wants to
keep sleeping with her.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
She just wants to fuck her. So It's Friday, August
twenty third, four to twenty seven pm. Paige and Lindsay
drove down to the house together. This is my favorite
part my two favorite people driving out of the house together.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Why didn't we actually get like the full drive. They
basically just arrive and like walk into the house.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Paige fell asleep in the car, you know, she was like,
I'm done. But they get to the house and immediately
they goss up. Lindsey's like I saw Lexi this week
with and she was really sad about Jesse and Paige's
like the relationship's weird. Everything that happened in it was weird,
and they're like so weird, and then Jesse and Lexie
walking together and it's weird. It's weird for everyone involved.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I know the way they're like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what's going on here? Like I'm sorry, Alicia. If you
were dating Jesse and all that stuff went down and
then you just like walked into the house like nothing happened,
I'd be like, stop the fuck right now. Why wouldn't
you say something. You made this a whole house thing.
You got to tell us that you made up.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I blacked out when you said I was dating Jesse
because I'd rather yeah, myself.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Not actually, but if you went through a relationship like this,
I would be pissed.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
See. The hard part is I would immediately call everyone
and tell them what happened, but I have to do
it on camera, so you like, wait, I think, But
then you show up and it's like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Which, if this were really planned, those two would be
like some of the last people to arrive. Yeah, so
there's maybe like two cars left and it's like, oh,
it's like Wes and Jesse and maybe like Lexi is
in that car.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That's true, so no one knows what to do. But
the girls do talk at the kitchen table and Lexi's
like we had hours and hours of conversation, and I
was like, that is my hell. I'd just break up.
It's not that serious.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
It gave me more more hope for her because at
least it wasn't just that one conversation, or maybe it
was that one conversation. It wasn't what we saw it was.
It felt like it was gonna be one little like, oh,
I don't want this to end, and that's it. At
least there were hours and hours of conversation and she
got back together with him. But still you got back
together with him.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, Paige and Lindsay are both like this is weird.
They're weird together. So then we go to Carl and
West driving down together and Wes is like, listen to
what happened to me? And I kind of feel bad
for him.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I why is the superstar of this episode? Dude?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Why am I trying to get him out safely of
this house? So he tells Carl the last night he
went out with Jesse, and Lexi came and her family
also came, and then Wes had to spend the night
watching Jesse grind on Lexi in front of Lexi's mom.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
And let me tell you, we knew, we knew this
was happening. Wet this like week two.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
There are so many things where with the sentence. First
of all, if I go out with my friend and
then the girlfriend shows up, fine, whatever, But you spend
all night grinding on her terrible. Second of all, I
have to watch it awful. Third of all, I have
to watch her mom watching it. I would rather die.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
That's something. You can't do all of this to your friend, Like, listen,
some parents are fun. I think my parents are fun,
but they don't come into a club with me and
my friends, like or you should at least warn your
friend it's like, Hey, my parents are in town. This
is what we're doing. If you want to join us,
I don't. I didn't get that impression from West. It
kind of seems like he got.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
The blind sided. This man was not blind. He was
blind sided. And let me tell you, I am done
with weird families. My parents will not even see me
look in the direction of a cute boy. Let alone.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Grind on wy same grind literally, same much grind.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
As far as my parents know, I've never had hands
with the man grin.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Why are we getting this family pushed on us so much?
Every conversation, We're constantly either seeing them or talking about them.
They were on Watch What Happens Life Behind the Floor.
I'm like, stop, stop. This is Lexi's freshman season. It's
not like Carl's mom, who we see once a season
over every year. We see her once and we've known

(07:24):
that man for nine years.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's because this family wants to be famous.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I know, But like, why is Bravo letting this happen?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't want it, Bravo,
if you're listening, I don't want it. Stop stop.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I enjoy seeing people's families and who they came from,
Like that is nice to see a glimmer of like
their life. But I don't even know Lexi. I know
more about her dynamic with her family than about her herself.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
And it's fucking weird. Stop promoting weird families. I thought
TLC was the place I had to avoid just I
didn't want to see weird familis and now you're put
on Bravo. I don't want weird families, and I mean
too close, like.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't want I was not to say next episode,
they're like going to be kissing on the lips and
we're gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
This is turning into sister wives and I'm over it.
Leave us alone.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So true, so true.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Anyway, Wes is just as disturbed as we are. So
then we cut to Amanda and Kyle. They're driving down
with Sierra and Amanda said she went to Gabby's with
Lexi and Lexi's sister was also there, and she relays
the information that Jesse and Lexie had a conversation and
Lexie is willing to give Jesse another chance, and Amanda
says she's all for giving second chances. God knows she's

(08:39):
going to be Kyle enough, so she's kind of just
like do whatever, you know, and Kyle says, Jesse portrayed
this relationship so differently to the dudes, and Siah's like, yeah,
what happened at that guy's dinner? You guys did. Kyle's like, honestly,
it was more about you than anything else, which Sia
is like, the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
This is why we need the house dinner where everything
is aired out, because we are still not being honest
and nobody, like the actual three people involved, Lexi, Jesse,
and Sierra do not know everything that's going on. I
mean Jesse does because he's the one doing all well.
Actually Jesse doesn't because he's lying to himself. But it
needs to all be aired out in front of everybody,

(09:21):
because if Lexi knew that the entire Guy's dinner was
about Sierra, like that would bother her and like rightfully
m hm.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So Kyle basically says the dinner, they discussed how Siera
touched Jesse at the cancer dinner and how it was like,
Sierra can't be doing that, and Amanda is like, oh
my god, Jesse just can like not take responsibility. They're
like it's okay if Lexi wants to set boundaries, but like,

(09:50):
oh nah, you can't blame Sierra for that, Like it's
like so weird.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
You haven't had the conversation with her, then, how is
she supposed to know she's not supposed to be interacting
with you the same way you always have.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, so back the house, it's still really awkward. So
Lindsay's like, hey, everyone touched my belly, feel my baby,
and so they do, and then Amanda, Sera and Kyle
get to the door and guess what, it's fixed. The
door is fixed. Amanda can walk right in. No, I
missed the door already. I know.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
That was like one of the most interesting parts of
this season.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
No truly. So it's super awkward when the Amanda, Kyle,
Sierra show up because they don't know what's going on
with Lexi and Jesse, and then Wes and Carl get here,
and then Kyle's like, hey, I got to go get
a call from my sperm donor, and everyone's like, that's
even weirder that you're taking it over the phone and

(10:42):
not an email.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yes, that diabolical, but that shows where Kyle is willing
to put everything on TV, like he will do everything
for not for a storyline, but to make sure there's
content and if it makes it great and if it
doesn't whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, that shows Kyle's age. Ki is literally a middle
aged man.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
No, I think all of this was recorded. I think
there was a camera in there with him, and I
think that they just cut that conversation.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think Kyle's kidding us. He doesn't know how to
work an email. He can't do a PDF. He's not
a print to pdf. He doesn't know how to work.
He still is on Yahoo. He has no idea about learning.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
So Carl, there's somebody probably dedicated that lover boy to
like turning teams on for him.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, Kyle's assistant is like, here's how we turn on
your computer. I'll just take care of it. How can't
he can barely button his pants. So everyone's sitting in
the living room and Carl asked Lexi how she is.
She's like, I'm fine. It was rough week, and Carl's like,
I'm rooting for you, and I was like, shut the
fuck up, Carl. Literally, I don't trust the thing out

(11:46):
of Carl's mouth because he roots for everyone.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's all used Alicia guy this Carl's saying that made
me realize, like Jesse and Lexi are just like Carl
and Lindsay, like both of them should break up with
the other person, Like this relationship is no good for
either party. It just needs to end, Like whoever does
it is like doing something good for the both of them,

(12:09):
Like I cannot root, I cannot watch, I cannot do
this anymore with this relationship.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Also, Carl's the same guy when like a Kyle, Cheetah
and Amanda. He was like, you guys will work it out.
I believe in you. Shut the fuck up. Honestly, you
have no backbone, curiously, just shut up. So Amanda then
in front of the whole house, is like, Jesse, what'd
you take away this week with your conversations with LEXI?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Call him out? Call him the fuck out. I loved this, and.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It takes Jesse a second. He's like, I need to
learn how to communicate better. That's it. And so Siarah's
Sarah's like, oh, so you're not a two faced liar.
That wasn't your takeaway? And I literally I went She's
such a joy to watch. She's truly because she says

(12:56):
it angrily, but so serious at the same time that
you just like answer.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
She like asked a question too, so it's like there's
a pause and she'll wait for that answer.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So it's five point thirty four pm. Sierra just called
Jesse out in front of everyone. Jesse doesn't know what
to say, and Wes he's giddy. He's in his chair
and he's like, it's not me. It's that fucking weirdo
Karma for making me watch you grind. Probably it's not me. Boys, friendships,
they don't mean a thing because the minute Wes is

(13:26):
free of Sierra's anger, he goes, god speed, my guy,
and he doesn't give a shit about his friend and I.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
But I set by that Wes would defend like Jesse
a little bit if there was something to defend like Wes.
I think every step of the last few episodes, so
like the last week has been like, oh, this guy
is a sinking ship. Like there is nothing I can
do to say.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Wes is like, either Jesse and Lexi breakup or one
of them die. So if Sierra wants to kill.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Him, hey, go for it.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Hey it's okay. Jesse, though, tells us he's like, no,
I know how Wes feels is because Sierra is not
fun when she hates you.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
And I was like, that's such a bullshit comment, Like
right now.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So Kyle's back with a ton of fucking sperm. His
nuts are working. Over time, you gets someone pregnant just
by sneezing on him, and everyone's like congrats, And then
Kyle's upset because Amanda's not She's just eating her salad.
She's not happy enough for him.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Like, what the fuck do you want me to say
you're doing great? Okay?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
She didn't. She didn't know until three days ago that
he even thought his sperm was sterile. True, She's like
she didn't even have time to process it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
She was like, Okay, I honestly think he only cares
this much because three days ago she said she maybe
doesn't want kids.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
No, truly, if she had said get me pregnant, if
she had said at dinner, I can't wait to have
your children, Let's do it immediately as soon as you know,
he would be like, forking, No, I'm not sterile. How
do I sterilize myself?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Like, wow, she's really putting the pressure on the fuck she.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Keeps she just she's forcing me to have children against
my will. That would have been him, So.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
It would have been exactly how we talked about them,
like moving to New Jersey last year, Like he would
have been so upset, and it would have been all
about him and how he needs to like he needs
to focus on work. He wants what he doesn't have,
Like whatever Amanda wants. It's like that's his enemy. He
hates with it.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, he I think he just he's one of those
people that just loves to do the opposite. If you
say the sky is blue, he'll say, actually it's not
because it's a reflection of the ocean, and you're just like,
just shut the fuck up, dude, Just I want kids. Well,
actually I don't want kids because kids will grown lives. Okay,
I don't want kids either. Then no, we should have
the option to have kids. It's like, okay, chill out,

(15:45):
you don't know what you want.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
You're so right. He only has an opinion of it
after she has an opinion, or like whatever he like
she does, it's his reaction is like a million times bigger,
and it's always the opposite.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
She could literally say I want to go to the
movie tonight and he would be like, I actually don't
think we should waste her day at the movies, but he.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Didn't, like, how could you not want to like spend
a night in, like you always spend the nights in,
and now you don't want to.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I can't go to the movies. I have to take
my sperm doctor call, Like fucking shut up. I'm so
over him. Anyway, we're gonna do dinner tonight at two
different places. We're gonna split up, which is always fun.
And then Sierra she's like, I'm gonna make a drink.
So she makes a little drink and she has some
extra and Wes is like, hey, I'll take the extra
if you're not gonna have it, and so he was like, Okay,

(16:34):
here's my extra drink. And Wes looks like he just
won the lottery because Sierra gave him liquid and a glass.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, but this is why she like, also is gonna
like go back into her shell with him, because he
makes every moment then such a big deal, like just
take the fucking drink and like be chill.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Also, honestly, can I say something. I'm gonna say it
if I was Sierra, even if I like didn't really
hate Wes anymore, the fact that he's making such a
big deal out of me hating him means I'm just
gonna continue hating him for the fun, for the fun
of it, honestly, like I have nothing better to do
with my days. Yeah, I'll roll my eyes. I don't
really care.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It doesn't like benefit me to be nice to you
if this is how you're gonna act.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, literally, okay, this is when I was like, where's
Emerald Meredith? I was too, where is he?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
He's at this house somewhere. I cannot believe we didn't
see him in this episode because af you were, like
one of the Bravo pages posted how she was at
the same restaurant that one of the groups ended up
going and Emerald was at the table. I did not
see him anywhere. I didn't even see glimpses of him.

(17:46):
I didn't, like fully check the beach day, but he
was nowhere to be fined in this episode. And I'm
so confused.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't know why they're doing this. I think he
was at the dinner with the West did it was?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
It was his camera? And yeah, they clearly just cropped
him out on the West and Carl side, because.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
On the other side of Carl for sure, because the
camera angle was weird and I did clack that, but
I was like, maybe they didn't have enough room to
set up or something.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
No, he was probably in the frame. They just enlarged
Carl and west side of it.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
At the time, I didn't know he was there. Yeah,
I was just saying as a viewer, I was like,
maybe they didn't set up the camera correctly or it
was a weird setup. But knowing this, I would just
like to say, Bravo or the production team, I don't
really care. I don't know what your angle is with
like cutting him out, but it feels icky, you know
what I mean, Like it just feels.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I agree, and I know, and I want.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
To say it feels racist, but it feels.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Weird, you know. I mean, we know that Bravo tends
to no white man for well, they don't favor any
person of color in any of their shows, and so
they do. That's just a bias that exists in the
world anyways, but we see it heavily on Bravo, and
so I just don't think that they are interested in
him with the bias, and then they heavily anchor it

(19:10):
with these cast members that have been on it forever.
So even like Gabby who has been around a few years,
we barely know anything about her because they just have
focused on these other storylines way too much. They just
don't give people time to like warm up to an
audience before axing them. So I think that leads to
it a lot. And then I do know whenever, like
in reality TV contracts, you have people who are going

(19:30):
to be there, like you get a certain episode minimum
and you get paid per episode that you're in, and
so I bet those main cast members get like let's
say I think there's fifteen episodes. Typically, let's say they're
guaranteed ten episodes and then less or cast members will
be guaranteed less and less, So sometimes they'll tell them
to stay home. Instead of like, oh I'm busy because
I'm going to this, they'll just tell them not to

(19:52):
come because they only have to pay them for six episodes,
so that helps keep your budget down. So I do
get that, like same with friends of Over on the
house Wives, but it's weird to have him there that
weekend and not showcase him, like it makes more sense
just to be like, hey, don't come, because they're trying
to manage their budget, their storylines. Everything.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
It does feel yucky. Whatever the reason is, I don't
like it if it makes me feel.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Weird because they made him seem like a full cast
member too. I think if they would have presented him
as a friend, uh, because he did technically come in
late during the summer, and I think he was a
substitute for Bailey leaving, Like I wonder if they were
kind of frustrated with Bailey they wanted a new person.
They pick up Emeral like they should have just made
him a friend of Kyle's. And I don't know if
that's what he was paid, as it kind of seems

(20:38):
like that might be how he is at the reunion
because he didn't stay the whole reunion, he didn't hang
out with the guys after, and it feels like he's
going to be cut, which just doesn't seem fair because
that's a Bravo issue.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It feels weird, it does, it does, Sorry, but whatever,
I guess we're stuck with these stupid white men that
aren't all terrible. Yes, So Carl, Jesse, and Kyle talk
outside Carl's like, hey, guys, guess what decision I made
this week? I'm about to sign a least for Softbar,

(21:12):
and everyone's like, oh, that's great, tell us about the lease.
It's seven years, and I went, oh no, oh.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, I don't know what a standard one is.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I don't either, but seven years at ten K a
month seems like a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I think Schwartz and Sandy's was twenty K a month.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh I think I bet so too. I mean, I'm
not doubting that. But listen, I obviously don't know much
about real estate, but Greenpoint's a very up and coming neighborhood.
You're gonna get a warehouse, and that's fine, that's what
he least done. But like, I, how do I say this?
I'm not gonna go hang out in a warehouse that

(21:58):
doesn't have some work done. So Carl does say he
also has to do some work. They have six hundred
k for build out, okay, But I also feel like
seven k or seven years is a lot, especially for
like a new business that hasn't like launched, maybe at
a smaller scale, so you don't actually know interest in this,

(22:20):
especially you're not really serving alcohol, So like, what's what
we have to gauge the interest somehow?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
And we've we've seen what happens when you tie your
business directly to a reality TV start or even just
a famous person. If the whole entire brand is built
off of somebody's name and identity, that's a really risky,
risky business sategy. And so especially for what happens, what
happens if like Carl's no longer on reality TV, whether

(22:48):
he even goes, like you know, in a good way
or a bad way out of reality TV. Like, that's
a lot of money and years to base it on
a business that when the highest margin is typically alcohol,
like that is, it's already hard business, and then you're
building it on an unstable like emation strategy.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
So my friend who lives near green Point where the
bar will be, she was like, I would go once,
but it's hard because he's not gonna have alcohol and
we're both we like to drink. And then she was like,
and also, I'm not gonna pay over Like I'm not
gonna pay eighteen dollars for like a non alcohol drink.
So like the business plan seems concerning. Also we know

(23:31):
in real life, in real time, he has asked for
public funding, so he didn't have enough to.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Which I think asking for public funding is a good
idea to get people interested in actually anchor them in
the business, but it seems that they don't have enough
funding outside of that, Like I think that should be
a side as in like a promotional tactic to like
make people truly like socially invested in it, not just financially.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, I think if you want to do it like
closer to launching your actual business so you can be
like you can get in on it too, or like
maybe after you open, but to do it, he did it,
like I think it's supposed to open this summer, and
he did like January, so like six months in advance.
I'm not investing in your bid, not even for twenty bucks,
my guy. And then Carl or Kyle is like, I

(24:17):
don't know anything about leases. Tell how can you get
out of the lease? So either there's goet the good
guy clause is intact, which is basically like if no
matter what, Carl's gonna owe this money for the duration
of the lease. So like the good guy clause is
like he's locked into paying for the seven years at

(24:38):
ten k. Even if he's laid on it, he will
still be responsible for it. And the only way really
out of the lease is like bankruptcy.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So well they can find a new they can get
somebody else to take over the lease. Yes, that's a
huge piece of it is if if if they go
out of business and they find a new tenant, then
they're out of it. Yeah, but well he will still
na but.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Still beyond them. It's like a sub lease. Your name
would still be on it for the good guy least, but.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Where if that business goes out, it's like you still
keep having to find the sub lease.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, so I personally wouldn't do it. I know, but
that's just me. I meant to do this before. But
if we're if we're if it's ten K times twelve,
so every year he's playing one hundred and twenty K
times up by seven, so he owns Oh my god,

(25:30):
his rent is gonna be eight hundred and forty thousand
dollars an years.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
But like ten thousand just on rent is challenging. And
then you have to pay for this whole build out,
Like I'm sure that's a lot of the investment is
the build out. But you have salary to pay, you
have your overhead costs, you have your ingredients, like this
is this is challenging just.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
On the space alone. He's were he's saying, this business
is gonna be like one point four mil. He's not
gonna break even his first I don't know, two three years,
probably no.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Because I think of this, I think in the early phases,
I think a lot of people will go during the day,
kind of like the coffee shop vibes, all of those things,
like I would happily go because it's during the summit
space or big co working space basically, but you hit
a point like there's a reason coffee shops are small,
Like you can't own a lot of space and rent

(26:30):
a lot of space when you're just selling between seven
and fourteen dollars drinks.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Do you think he's gonna have food?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I would bet some. Yeah, But well he has a
big enough space that, like I would, you kind of
have to actually.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then he has to build or have some sort of
kitchen all the supplies.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Which the more other employees more jement.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I'm the dumbest accountant known to man, But I still
I look at a business plan conservatively, and I look
at the numbers, and if you're putting one point four
mil alone into the space, is what you're responsible for
we're not even talking merch that you're obviously gonna make
and try and buy. We're not talking all the ingredients.
We're not talking the silverware, the cups, the food, the employee.

(27:16):
Like you've just valued your business at like ten mil.
Like truly, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
And like you said earlier, you have no history with this.
This is a brand new business. You haven't been operating
out of like you have been operating samples out of
your van, because I don't think that they've been doing
a paid service. But I really do think our recommendation
that we had during his soft launch of just doing
it out of the van or having to truck yeah items,

(27:45):
and like make sure that you have interest and make
sure like the running community like knows about you. Yeah,
all these different communities know about you before you buy
a physical space.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Just yikes, my guy, I mean Kyle and Jesse him.
But at the same time they're kind of like, I
don't know my guy.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You know, Kyle seems nervous, And I do trust Kyle's
like business since, like.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I mean, he's done a lot of big I think.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think he even got in over his head a
little bit with Lover Boy. Just because of how fast
he tried to grow it, because of the demand in
other states based on the show. Yeah, but like Kyle
was like, oh okay, like this, you're in for it.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I think that's the other thing is Kyle has like tried.
He has built a business from the ground up. He
worked on bird Dogs, which is a huge brand in
New York. Specifically, I see the store, I see people
wearing them. I always think of Kyle. But to build
Lover Boy from like the ground up and Lover Boys
not even I would say that big. I think they
have one small space in New York and then from

(28:46):
there he operates. He obviously sells a good so he
used to buy all that, but like he doesn't own
I would say a huge space. If anything, he's just
renting office space.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's the thing, Like that's peanuts can parent like what.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Carl's about to be crazy. And as far as we know,
Kyle or Carl hasn't built any businesses before. He really
hasn't had to be responsible.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, and we've seen how good he is at sales,
Like he often lost his job.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
So dental sales, and then he worked for one of
his friends in sales. You better be get old. Sell
me on the idea. My guys, you better sell me
on the idea.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I don't know. I just I worry about him because
I don't want him to fail. Really, I like the
idea as an idea, but I think it's a really
hard concept in how he's going about it too.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
So, well, we'll see, I see the summer. I mean
it's supposed to open.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I guess Alicia, literally we'll see, because I will be
forcing her to go.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Oh yeah, I'll go. So Kyle says, Lindsay will probably
throw some jabs, so be ready for that. And Karl
says he never expected Lindsay to be in his corner,
but his honest opinion is that she's not hurt. She's embarrassed,
and there's a part of her with these jabs where
she's trying to feel better about the embarrassment. And I

(30:13):
was like, shod uh a, I'm gonna kill him and
be Obviously she's embarrassed. She was engaged to a loser
who broke up with her right before the wedding. Of course,
she means you.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You she has a little bit of joy inside that
she doesn't have to sit through this, like she's like, Okay,
I got out, Like I was already happy I got out,
but now I'm really happy I don't have Devin this shit.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oof, She's thrilled. And then Jesse, actually the voice of reason,
is like, of course Lindsay would be embarrassed. It's less
than a year that y'all broke up. She can throw
some jabs.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Dude, I'm throwing jobs at you, and I was never
engaged to you. I'm not embarrassed about you, like these
embarrassing for you.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm embarrassed for you.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
A lot of the time was like going on social
media and like talking up a storm about this. I'd
be like, yeah, wow, that's a Lindsay put. She's always
saying to her friends like yes. It's like she was.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Asked, are you gonna go to his thing? And she's like,
I'd rather watch paint.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Dry, even if it was the best idea in the world. No,
I'm not fucking going because she she did. You see
what her post on social media was that it was
like a three like reasons why and it's like one
of the main things that I fully agree with this.
She's like, I'm not going all the way into New
Jersey for a business that technically hasn't even launched, Like
you're soft launching a business.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
She's pregnant too. Here's my thing, here's my thing, to
all my exes, to anyone I've ever hooked up with,
anyone I've even had a crush on that I don't
keep in touch with. I hope you don't die. Other
than that, I don't give a shit what happens to you.
You have a business, I don't care if it lives
or dies. Truly, I don't care if you fail. And
sometimes there are some exes out there. If your business

(31:56):
does fail, I will crack up. I will dance on
it's great. I don't care it goes.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Back, it goes out to BA we talked about with Wes.
Like they don't owe you anything. Lindsay doesn't owe you
coming to your soft soft launch for soft bar, Like
she doesn't owe you to be kind and supportive and
like the cheerleader you really wanted her to be when
she was your fiance. She's really not gonna do it

(32:21):
when you're not engaged, Like what are your expectations and
why are they Like that she.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Didn't believe in you when you were engaged to her.
She's not gonna believe in you.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Now, honestly, police.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
So then Jesse's like, hey, switch to me. I thought
Latine and I were over.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Wait really quick, this was this was edited opposite That
Jesse conversation happened first and then the Carl conversation because
when they walked up and they actually started talking and
it cut to Carl's conversation, Kyle was talking about how
all the cans were dirty, and then when it cuts
to the Jesse conversation, he's as it again. He's like,

(33:01):
hold on, let me clean off this can for you.
Let me get you a different one. And then they're like,
Jesse is like sitting down. I was like, why did
we flop those conversations. It's not like it was required.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Bravo editors, do better, do keep catching you on mistakes.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's crazy. It was like a really easy one because
of Kyle's obsession with his dirty hands.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
God, that's a business owner right there, his dirty cans
not not under his watch. So yeah, Jesse, let's talk
about him and Lexi. Jesse really thought they were gonna
be over, and he was depressed because he cares. Can
you believe? But out of nowhere. It like blew up
in his face.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
He cannot go out of know where I was.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I can't. I can't spend another episode, right.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
All I have to say is he's gaslighting himself at
this point, No.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Truly, and it's kind of funny. I think more men
should gaslight themselves instead of gaslighting.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Ony No because it's at the like it's just rouning
LEXI even more.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Don't fall for it. You can't. It's one thing to
put effort in gaslighting me knowingly. If you're gaslighting yourself,
I will just watch and be like, all right, weirdo. Anyway,
he says, the only other girl he's been in love with, and.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I went, no, no, no, no was.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
When he was eighteen nineteen. He had a full frow.
This guy and his best friend slept with her, and
I went, tell that story immediately. I'm interested, Immediately, tell
me that story.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
But ye why it's like are you are you friends
with that man still? Because like you shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I gotta know everything. But that's why he has trust issues.
And I was like, okay, that I guess makes sense,
but you should go to therapy.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, this is like twenty years ago, my guy,
let's figure that out.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
You shouldn't be blaming the next person, new date. You
should have gone to therapy. We're thirty two.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Got to be like, oh, you know, she yelled at
me for talking shit about her behind her back. But
like when I was eighteen years old, my friend slept
with my prom dage.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Imagine dating a man and you're like, stop yelling at me,
and he's like, I can't because when I was a teenager,
someone cheated on me. And you're like, uh, you sucked
someone's tongue while we were together. Let's talking about it.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I don't think there's cheating. I don't think him and
his girl were actually dating. I think his friend just
slid in on her and it was like hey, I
liked her. Hey, And it's like that's still shitty.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
But like, hey, guess what, my guy, I don't care
either way, go to therapy. Your baggage is not You
cannot put your baggage on me. We are in our thirties,
and here's the thing. In your twenties, you can try
and take the baggage of someone else. By the time
we're thirty, I don't have time for this. I've gone
to therapy and learned about all of my baggage. I

(35:49):
can't take years on my baggage. Is my baggage when
when you're twenty, when you're twenty, you will carry someone
else's bags around the airport. By the time you're thirty,
I could do it myself. You do yours, I'll do mine.
We don't have to coexist.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But it shows the links that Jesse will go to
to not take accountability because he's like, yeah, but this
is my friend's fault.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Now, yeah, let's let's listen that whatever story this happened,
whatever way this happened, that sucks for you. But you
get minimum four years to like try to deal with
it yourself. If you're still not over it after four years,
if you can't get passed it through college and you
graduate still having issues with the same shit, go to therapy.

(36:31):
It's not it's no one's fault anymore. You have to
deal with it.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Listen. Even if you don't deal with it, stop using
it as the excuse of like why something else is
happening and why you're not accountable. Like he's gonna go
get alone and do your bullshit over there.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
He's gonna have like grandkids and be like, I can't
trust your grandmother because when I was eighteen my bestie.
Is that why he's mad? Because Wes and Lexi were
like hugging that one time.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Okay, that would make sense. That's the only piece of
this puzzle that like I get is triggering because like
that goes together.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Go to therapy though, work through it. It's not their
fighting fault. It's not their fault what was happening.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
That's not Lexi's fault. If you think somebody was inappropriate
with your girl, why don't you go talk to your
best friend, because like Lexi wasn't doing anything.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
No, literally, I'm so over this. Go to therapy. That's it,
that's it. Do you know we wouldn't have Bravo if
all the men just went to therapy.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
No, we would. We would just be happy. I mean
a lot of this country would be a lot different
if men went.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
To their men just went to therapy.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
If men just went to therapy, it's so easy.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's crazy, right. So then Sierra, Lindsay, and Lexi talk
in Lindsay's room. Lexi fills them in on Jesse and
how they had really good conversations this past week. You know,
who knows that they're gonna be together forever? But they
they have, they're working through their miscommunications and they're just

(37:58):
gonna let it go.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
The act up, Lexi dropped. I don't know if we're
gonna be together forever. I'm like, Girly, you're not. It's
been it's been like seven weeks. Why are we talking
about this. You guys can't go a week without having issues?
I really forever.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I had a friend who was with her boyfriend for
like ten years and she's like, if we break up,
and I'm like, you still think you might break up?
She goes, I don't know. I can't tell the future.
I was like, no, you're right, props.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Sat, I bet that's a stable relationship.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
So then Lexi asked the million dollar question. Meredith to me,
there's only one right answer, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
give it to you and let me know, Okay if
we have the right answer. Okay, is Lexi really gonna
break up with someone because he's bad at communicating when
they really care about each other?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, that's what I had.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yes, I had that answer, But I think the answer
Lexi was looking for was no.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I don't LEXI talking to Sierra and Lindsay right now,
like Lindsay will listen and yeah, but Sira is like,
the fuck are we talking about this right now? Her
face was everything.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I just want to be so clear, Sierras, where I
am with like my I Hate men campaign, we are
on the same level. I hope we both have a
bisexual awakening. I hope we both go through it. I
hope she ends up dating a woman. Fuck these men,
fuck him.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I looked at her and I said, thank god she
has that Martini, Like I couldn't do this conversational about
that truly.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
So Lexi then thinks Jesse could be worth training, and
I said, if he's over ten, we don't train. We
don't like, we don't train a man. We're not his mom,
we're not his mom. We're no no, no, no no no,
he's older than you, because you don't have to train him.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
It's not like she said, I need to teach him
how to let me have some space after a fight,
or like what I have to learn how Yeah, no, no,
she said train. She said train, she said train.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
She said he could be worth training.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
This is when I was like, both of them need
to break up a with each other because I'm sorry, Jesse.
I would be offended if somebody told me I need
to train you. I mean, he does need training, to
be honest, but like you shouldn't have to be trained,
and you shouldn't have like your person talking like this
is not a good relationship. This doesn't give me hope
for you too.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
The way I said, never in my life do I
have time to train anyone. That's why I don't even
know my kids. I can't train that.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I don't even want a dog, like I don't even.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Want to talk until I'm petless because I don't want
a deal. Oh my god, a fullfloaged men who's a
man who's older than me?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
No doubt ye too? Yeah, send him back.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
To his mom and be like, he's going to be
single forever unless you train him. That's who chose to
have him, not your problem. I cannot enough anyway, Jesse.
He just needs to learn not to act single. And
I okay, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I was like, wow, we have to train him to
do that.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
That's crazy, and then Lex he's like, hey, Sierra, how
are you? And Jesse and Sierra is like, listen, I
don't give a fuck about your guys his relationship. I
have my own shit with him. He's two faced and
he's talking about me, and Siah's like, look, I don't
care about his boundaries. If he doesn't want me to
touch him, that's fine. If he doesn't want me to
call him, that's fine. Whatever, But don't blame me because

(41:21):
I'm crossing boundaries. You have never told me about that.
We're fine five days ago, you know. Like, and then
Siera's also like, and he's punching above his weight, so like,
this man needs ton brought down some pegs that she
said that. So at seven oh two pm we got
the two groups going out tonight, Lexi and Jesse do

(41:44):
a weird hug kiss session. Kyle's even freaked out by it,
and Kyle's like the most accepting one in this house.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Did you hear what Kyle said when he was walking
to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
He just said they were weird, right.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
He was like, oh, they made up and they now
won't stop touching each other. And I was like, yeah, no,
we're back to the p and A central like can't
go five minutes without touching each other.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
So West he's in his room alone because Jesse's always
in Lexi's and he's trying to be better at being
open and honest because last summer he had a college
friend who passed away and the one year of that
anniversary was Thursday, so yesterday, which I went, did we
see that or did I?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
No. He said that he didn't open up about that
last year because he has a hard time opening up
about that type of stuff. And I get that, like
your first season, like going through a death of something
not on the show. Yeah, I don't think I would
have brought this stuff onto the show, especially at the
end of the season. You know, you're like, yeah, it
means away from it.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah. So we split up in the two groups. We
have the catch and then we have this second group
and we don't know where they go. But so the
catch group is Page Lindsay, Kyle, and Jesse. So we're
really doing a random it's a random seating but I
love but.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I was thinking, I was like, this is the group.
Actually I need. I need Jesse to be separate from
Sierra and Lexi, and then obviously Kyle and Amanda always
have to be split up, and like Sierra and PAIGEI
to be split up. I liked the breakout of because
but yeah, most random groups, and I would obviously put
this together.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Anywhere Paige and Lindsay are. I'm obsessed, so this is
where I want to have dinner. Kyle makes it just
because Okay, so I have to set up the joke
because I found it so fascinating. So Jesse orders a
very dirty martini and then he's like, do you have
blue cheese olives? And the lady's like no, And then
Kyle makes a joke and he's like, do you have
American cheese olives? But no one hears him, so then

(43:41):
he brings up American cheese again, and Paige is like,
I'm famously known for loving a Craft singles because they
make the best grilled cheeses. And then they're like, but
Craig hates Craft singles and I want Craig is the
human equivalent of a Craft single, so it's weird he
hates and I can't explain it further than that. I can't.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I feel like you need to now describe other people
as cheeses, but like that can wait.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
But like, I can't even explain why I think this.
It was just the first thing I go that's.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
He's kind of robbery in a little fame.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
You don't have to. I feel like every the people
who get it get it. He's just he's the equivalent
of a Craft single. You get it so great. Then
we have the second group, which is West Carl, Amanda, Lexi, Sierra,
and Emerald, who gets cut out. I think we just
need to keep his memory.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Life Memorial Life.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Kyle, he's not surprised he's got sperm of the Century,
and Amanda's like, look, I don't care either way. And
then Amanda tells us separately that she finally feels like
herself and being pregnant and then like postpartum that's going
to really fuck that up. And she just wants to
be herself for like maybe a year and then she

(44:57):
can like revisit it.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I love that for like that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
She just wants to be hot and happy.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
You just let her be hot and happy her once.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
So then back to the catch, Jesse and Lexie are
sorted for the moment. Okay, so Jesse now needs Sierra
advice and page immediately like, Sierra is amazing. Did you
see her repe to shreds today? That was incredible to watch,
And everyone's like, I love.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
How they all give her the kudos and being like, no,
but she nailed that delivery.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, no, fuck you. Sierra's great. Jesse does want to
apologize and Paige's like, that's great. Don't expect her to
accept it though. Sierra, as we know, is a slow burner,
and Jesse's like, yeah, but that's that's what she's doing
to West when she refuses to be.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
His Oh my god, when he was like, now, I
totally understand how West feels because she's just no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
And of all people, Kyle comes in and goes, do
not compare your situation to the Sierra City situation with Wes,
and then he tells Jesse it's not on Sierra. Sierra
is the one that felt screwed over by the two
of you, so like, you need to take the accountability
of your actions.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
He's back. He's back the good friend Kyle. He he
knows where friendship lines are and I'm so happy. I
was so pissed at him last week for his like
pipe down comment, but we got him back.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
No, here's the thing. When he's good with Amanda, he's
a bad friend. But when he's bad with Amanda, he's
a good friend. Oh he's mad at her right now
because she didn't cheer for his sperm. So he's like,
I need to put my seat towards a different woman. Yeah,
since none of it goes to Amanda. But then they
all talk about how Wes has been very quiet this summer,

(46:43):
not just with Sierra, with everyone.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
He really has. I think I think he is scared
to step out of wine and.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
He's kind of all I like.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
A guy who's now cautious after being beaten down so hard.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Just no, you deserve to stay silent.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
That is one man that we did train collectively.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Bravo trained him perfectly. And may I say, I still
have a real soft spot for him.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I know it's my I do too. I know it's
but I think you and I agree, and a lot
of fans who still love him. I think what we
if people haven't gotten there I have is I love
him as like a character, as a funny guy. But
I still with him. Yes, but I would be weary
of dating him. But I think he is a good
guy over all. But I think he is. And a

(47:34):
lot of people have this. I have this too. It's
you don't know how to navigate relationships, you do it incorrectly,
like you're not a secure partner, and like that's okay
to mess that up a little bit, like we are
all fumbling through lives. It was, but I wouldn't date him, yeah, yeah,
so we can all enjoy him as a funny guy,
you know, like we just we can't, you know, put

(47:55):
him on our shoulders again as like this champion of
Bravo and of like summerhow like he just is a
funny guy and like, let's leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Truly for the record, though, my dumb ass would totally
fall in love with him.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
I know, I know to the worst would go on.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I always need to just make sure everyone knows. I
know why I'm dumb, but I would totally fall in
love with him.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
If you wouldn't be fully pissed at him either, you'd
be like I did it to myself. I can knew
the song.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Now, I know well now I know if I if
we didn't know, if he was just some stranger right
and it was Wes, I would fully fall in love
with him, then get screwed over and then hate him too.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I can see her see it's coming from now. If
this West that we know was like, hey, date me.
I would be like with that question, with that question,
I know, and like, do it and then when if
it blew up in my face? Not if when it
blew up in my face, Meredith would.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Go, you knew though, I'd be like, it was a ride,
but I would go I.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Still hate him, and I would pull Lindsay and be like,
I'm going to root for your downfall of course always.
So we cut to the second group and Lexi asked
how Wes is doing, because we know it was the
anniversary of his friend's death somehow, and Wes is like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
So I wanted to be clear, like Lexi asked him.
There's a lot of discourse on the internet saying like
he brought this stuff up, and no, he did it.
I don't think he ever would have talked about this
unless Smile said it.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
So Lexi brought it up. Wes shares he was going
through it. Lexi tries to, you know, be a good friend,
and I think she is. She says she also lost
the best friend and sometimes you really just do need
to feel your emotions through it to get to the
other side. Because Wes really does. He harbors them.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I love how she said, like, now you have somebody
like watching over you.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Like.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I think the way she spoke to him about this
was like perfect.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
LEXI went to therapy probably about it because she was
dealing with the emotions. I'm just gonna say it was
very it was very good.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Y'all. Wes doesn't like conflict. He doesn't like bad things,
so he does recognize that. He uses a lot of humor.
He copes with that. You know, he doesn't want to
A doesn't want to be in bad spaces with people,
but B doesn't want to think about bad things. I
do this too. I've told all my friends if anything
ever remotely happens in my life, like if someone I

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care about ever passes, I will not act normal. They
need to be prepared for me to make jokes or
just fully cut them out. It's going to be I'm
not going to turn to them. That's not how I am.
Like Wes, and I can.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I think it's tough. It's really hard for I think,
if you've never done it, to start doing it and
to open up. It's just scary.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So Wesa's shared. Last year his friend died. It was
the night of Danielle's launch party, and then he went
back to Sierra's and he like cried in her bed
for two hours. And there are moments Wes can own
his vulnerability, but like it's it's obviously hard when you're
talking about it on a TV screen for everyone to

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then give their opinions on. And then this is when
Sierra gets up and leaves the table, which I listened.
They kept cutting from like West to Sierra during this
whole conversation, and you could see how uncomfortable Sierra was
and I did I was like, I want to like
almost grab her from that. So I do think it
was okay that she stood up and like excused herself

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from this.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
And I think she did it at the right time.
People are like upset with her on the internet saying
this was rude. He finished what he was saying, like
he talked a little bit then after she got up,
but he was finished with the finish what he was saying.
She clearly waited till he was done and respectfully got
up and just walked away.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
And I think this is fine because it does I
think Sira, I deal with a lot of my emotions
like Sierra as well, where I'm not going to show
my hurt. I'm just gonna be angry or I'm going
to ignore you, right, but a part of me is
still hurt. Right, we had something very special, We had
something very beautiful that I cherished a lot. Yeah, and
in my eyes, you kind of a you broke up
with it, fine, but then you ruin any friendship that

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could have been thereafter, So you've also hurt me. And
then we're sitting here and we're talking about how, like
last summer I was the one that was there for you.
You showed me your vulnerability like that probably brought us
closer together. I then listened to you talk about this,
and I need a moment after that, like I need
to get my head straight because.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And I actually find it respectful of her for walking
away and having her own emotions, because I think she
can see her emotions about this, and this situation is
minute compared to like his grief, and like it doesn't
need to be a conversation that they need to have,
because why make him feel bad for like their loss
of friendship when he's dealing with like something so different,

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And so she just needs to step away, you know,
take a beat out of it regroup herself and be
able to come back and sit down with this guy
who that she was friends with, and it clearly still
holds a lot of emotions about all of this stuff,
like him saying that story like brings up her own
closeness with and that's hard to deal with when you're

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trying to distance yourself from someone who meant so much
to you.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'm surprised people were mad about this because I feel
like even Wes knew the reason she got up. He
didn't yet either.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Oh my god. No, Like again, it was so respectful
how she did it, and like when the opportunities she took.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
And this is where I mean like Wes, I think
is at his core a good person. Like I think
he recognized that this this is hard on both right,
because Wes did also lose a friend. We can acknowledge
that he was very close to Sierra, obviously trusted her,
was able to like share this very vulnerable moment and
the fact that they're not friends anymore. Obviously as creepy
as he's being about it, it does hurt him because

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he wants it. Yeah, And so I think he can
also acknowledge, like this is uncomfortable for both of us.
She's obviously hurt. She needs to walk away, and like,
I think it was also good for Wes. He probably
needs a beat too.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
On the flip side, people are saying him saying that
stuff like about telling her after Danielle's event was like manipulative,
and I'm like, that is again, not what's happening.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
I don't think he is.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
He's finally opening up about something because someone asked and
he felt like he did have a small group to
discuss this with, like when it's clearly been asked. He
I guess, posted something on his story on Thursday about it,
so like now everybody knows, like he's just telling the
story of what happened last year and like how painful
this was and how he doesn't talk about it. But

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this is like where he opened up instead. It was
not to get Sira to like feel bad for him
or anything, but it does when you do talk about
your emotions and especially emotions somebody else was witnessed to
a very private personal moment. That'll bring him up for
her too. But what is he supposed to do? Never
talk about this? That's not fair to him.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
No, I agree with you. I think I.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Really everybody did everything perfectly.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, if anything, this made my heart hurt for the
friendship we had and we lost, Like I'm more.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Hid with them, yeah absolutely, but like Sierra isn't like
gonna escape any emotional dis discussions because she doesn't want
to be friends with this guy. Like they're living in
a house together. And this is what happens when you
choose to have people in your life that like sometimes
you normally would cut out of your life.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I even made a note and I was like, I
hope these two have another conversation, like just them separately,
Like it would almost just be nice to be like, hey,
I saw you get up. I just want to make
sure like you were okay. I didn't mean to like, yeah,
that would be nice, and I would want Sierra then
to be like, in my ideal head, I'm writing a
book about it, I guess. But then Sierra would be like, no,

(55:31):
it was just hard that like we were I was
the person there for you, and like we've lost this
close knit Like I thought that would have been like
obviously that's like the perfect ending, but it's not going
to happen. But I said, I was like I want
it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah, well, it kind of reminds me of Lindsay and
Carl's conversation when Carl's brother like the University of his
brother passing. Yea, I acknowledge that it's kind of like
that similar moment and maybe, like Sierra and Wesley, like
a little bit more time and like next year on
the anniversary, it can come to.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Be like that with love. But Sierra does come back
to the or yeah, Siara comes back to the table.
Sierra says, like to us obviously not to the table,
that Wes really did feel like her friend last summer.
So it's hard to be reminded that they were so
close and like where they are now, and Wes is

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able to just like brush things under the rug and
move on, but She's unable to do that. And the
hard part is her heart is telling her to just
like brush it under the rug and move on, but
her head is the one that's like, no, don't let
him back in and he's gonna hurt yeah, which I think.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Really it's hard because they live in it and when
it actually happened, and then she had to live in
it all while the season was airing, and then when
she came back, she had to relive it and like
dig it all up when all those articles were coming out,
and so this is like the first time we said
this at the sort of the season, the first time
that she kind of gets to not be in it,

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but then you get to, like you go live with
the person. So it's just it's a never ending emotional
assault and that's what she signs up for, but that
doesn't make the feelings any easier to swallow down.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, for me, the hardest part would be that if
I was Sierra, I felt like, Okay, we had moved
on from it, and then you rebring it up in
the article before we get here, so it was almost
like you already I thought we could be friends. And
this is why my head is telling you not to
let me do that again with you, because you.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Already Yeah, that's so true. Once the breakup hurt, and
then like he was doing podcasts while the show is anering,
you watch all that, and then the reunion and then.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Then we had squashed it. We had squashed at the reunion,
and Sierra probably said we could build a friendship this
summer when we're back, and then you get out of
your trader's house in Scotland, and you're like, man, he
just won't let it die.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
So then you're going to trust you? What is it?
Fool me?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Want shame on you? Fool me twice?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
That shame on me.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, it's not gonna have And so I think unfortunately
for Wes, I think he broke Sierra's trust one too
many times. So like, I agree, that's why she can't. Anyway,
y'all get home. I would like to say, the house
lets in a fly and it was bucking the shit
on me. I saw it flying right in and I
was like, oh my god, close the door. Anyway, Page

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burns herself. She grabbed her hot curling iron.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
It was Sierra's. Sierra left it on.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah yeah, but why are you grabbing the hot part
of the curling iron?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Because if you think it's unplugged, like you're just gonna
grab it and like do the thing. That's the worst
we've all been. I agreed, Listen, once you do it
a few too many times, you will never grab the
hot I.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Think that's it. I've burned myself so many times that
I will never I repeatedly will always even if I
know it's off, like it's unplugged I'll just feel on
top and be like is it hot?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I know, yeah, that's rough.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
So it's time for bed. Everyone's home, by the way, whatever,
it's O for bed. Lexi and Jesse kiss and it's
super gross. And then at two twenty one am, Jesse
gets turned on so hard he sneezes.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
And then Bravo, my favorite.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I didn't even realize Kyle was drunk, But drunk Kyle
finds out I got some muffins.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Okay, I'm like, was Emerald there? Did Emerald and Kyle
go out? Like? None of this is making sex?

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Did he get drunk?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I think the boys had to have gone out minus Jesse.
I think is West and Kyle and Emerald went out,
because we cut to West and Kyle talking and Wes
is like, all right, it's it's really time to go
to bed, like good night, Kyle, and then Kyle stumbles
into the kitchen like that is like what happens on
a night out?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
No, you're so right, because Lexi had asked Jesse like
are you going out? And he's like no, and she's
like okay, I'll change in my pajamas then, but then
all of a sudden, it's two am. And I went,
who's awake? Still? I thought we went to bed hours ago?
And then Kyle's mashed eating a muffin with a forking knife.
I know what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
No, right, it's them determined to cut Emerald out, and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Weird because I love a night out, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Know, because I don't think what you just said, like, oh,
everybody's home. I don't think west Emeral and Kyle came
home with everybody else. I think they came home at
like a different time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Oh boo, absolute boo, truly boo de bravo. Anyway, I
do like I was very confused, but I was like,
I'll watch drunk Kylie at anything, as you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah, no, no, I I was also we took.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
It with a forkin knife. I was absolutely cracking up.
I was like, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Well, I didn't realize he was drunk at first because
he was like who eats muffins? And then I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Like the muffins. I was like, this man's hammered. When
did this happen?

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I know, I was like, wait a minute, you're grabbing
one out, Oh you're drunk eating. I just thought he
was standing there like not really ready to go to bed,
a little restless. No, no, that being drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So it's Saturday, August twenty fourth, nine thirty one am.
We see page with her hand on something and I'm like,
is that bread?

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
No? I thought it was a book.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I saw the nutricious label and I was like, is
she is it bread? It's even gross. This is so crazy.
She her hand hurt because she burnt it. So she
went down to the kitchen. One drunk Kyo was there
at two am, and she grabbed She grabbed the cold
rod chicken. Of all things, she grabbed the chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I was so confused when this no, no, when this
was going down, because I thought it was a book
at first. And then when she says she went to
the basement, they first said she grabbed it tequila bottle.
That is not cold enough. It doesn't freeze, so and
then she went for chicken. I will say it is
less gross than I thought, because I thought it was
one of those styrofoam packs and then it just saran wrapped.
This is like the old thank god, But now why

(01:02:02):
are we grabbing it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah, the pizzas or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Literally, there has to be an ice pack in there.
Like all the actually chicken, I would say, go chicken
over pizza rolls, like we are more likely to eat
the pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I don't want to wake up next to I'm freaked
out by raw chicken. Favorite thing to cook.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
It's the fact that only defrosted and like now it's chicken,
it's you's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Next to warm raw chicken. And that freaks me out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
That what freaks me out because if she would have
just gone down there and like put her hand on
it and like held it for a little bit, not weird,
not weird at all, because it's fully frozen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
The XT to it, the fellas and it is kind
of crazy. And now you can't eat this chicken, obviously,
but there has to be something else in that freezer that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
You could have made a bag of ice. There's no
way this house has.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Made a bag of ice. You could have. It was
weird anyway. So this whole week, oh so the girls
get the bed girls get together. So it's Page, Amanda Sierra,
and this whole week Amanda was having like basically anxiety
without the hanging part that Page and Sierra were mad
at her for no reason. You know, when you're hungover,

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you think everyone hates you. Amanda is having.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
That this happens to me sometimes when all my friends
are busy. I'm like, they hate me, And then I
have to remember that their whole schedules don't revolve around
my life.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
No, I they if all my friends are busy, I go,
they're probably hanging out without me, and they don't want
to tell me. Yep, I will together, And I'm like,
this is the worst. No. But then Amanda asked Sierra
about last night how she got up from the table.
Is she okay? And Sierra says she just needed to
let West have his feelings and she needed to separate

(01:03:47):
from that. And Sira she here she doesn't know if
she'll ever be friends with Wes again. They'll probably never
be close, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
I was like, that's okay, makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
So we're having a pool day to day. Wes even
offers to grab Sierra a drink by the pool and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
She turns this girl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
She's like, when did he turn out to be nice?
And Amanda's like, dude, he's been trying all summer. You
just don't want to acknowledge it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
That is so funny. That is so Funnier're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Right, and she shouldn't have to. So the boys, well
not the boys. I guess it's like Jesse, Kyle and
Carl and then Paige. They all talk.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Carl's not there, it's it's West.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Oh, it's Wes. Sorry who that's where Carl is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
No, because I was watching West face that entire conversation
because this is where I'm like Davin, I'm always on
west side.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
But we talked about it. Things are actually squished with
Lexi and Jesse's like, look, I thought we were I
was in trouble. And then one day Lexi called and
was like, I'm the ball's in your court. Are you
over it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Okay? I don't know if I trust my wishes because
the way he said it, He's like she was ignoring me.
I'm like, yeah, I know. That checks out. But then
one day she calls him up and is like, oh,
are you gonna want to get back together with me?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I know, I don't believe, friend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I do believe she took him back, but there is
no way that girl was like, it's your choice if
we're back together.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Didn't go like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
She has more self respect than that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I'm sure they had hours of conversation and then they
were talking one day and Lexi said, look, I am
open to getting back together, would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
You like to?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And then Jesse was like sure, but they're saying in
his hat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I am okay, or like I would want to get
back together if you can do X, y Z, so
the balls in your court to do those things this way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
No, Well, after three days of ignoring you, she's like,
so will you take me back?

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
The fuck? There's no way this man, this man does
not know what's actually going on in real life. I'm
so concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
No, he's he needs help. And then he shares how
he had to talk to Lexi's family about this, and
that's where I went. I believe that that's weird that
my family will never know I'm dating anyone ever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
But this is This was another point where I'm like, Jesse,
do you want to be in a relationship with someone
where every if you have a fight you have to
like talk about with her family.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
He's talking shit like he's not okay with it, Like
he didn't do it and then get back together with her. Ye, right,
he's still talking Yeah, this is he's still talking shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Here's this He's still talking shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
This is fucking weird one hundred percent. I freaking out
by this, But you did it, and then you still
got back together with her, so you have to like
make this this isn't that weird to you. Then right this,
you did it and you're still like you're still bringing
up to your friends though, like, can you fucking believe
I had that ship?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
It's it's the way it talks about it. It's not
that he's because then he later goes like, oh, I'm
just reporting facts, Like I hate when people do that,
Like there is a way to talk about things and
give your friends the information and updates about your life
without talking shit about your partner. He could have very
easily said like, LEXI and I decided to be back together,
like I obviously like her parents, her mom.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
She had told her family.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
We I like really like wanted to talk to her
family or like whatever, Like I made sure it's also
clear the air with her family because they're so important
to her. You could have easily made this not weird.
I still think that situation is weird, but he's also
making it weird, Like we as view, we have just
heard that he talked to them, and it wouldn't be
that weird.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
You know what you said that was interesting. LEXI could
have said something like we maybe can't get back together
because I already cried about you to my mom and
sister and now they hate you. And Jesse could have said,
let me talk to your family, let me let me apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
We don't know what's happening because I don't trust I
what Jesse said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Narrative. His narrative is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, honestly, I do believe, like her family really would
have believe they talk, but.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I think them wanting to be so involved is weird
from their side. But I also think he's making this
sound worse because he cannot help himself from shit talking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
No truly. But then Wes is like, let's clear something up.
You also grind it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
On her in front of her mom, which is for two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
For days. Ooh yeah, oh, I can't stop. This is
so weird. And Page thinks it's weird too. She's like,
I've been dating Craig for three years and I will
not touch him in front of my dad. We don't
kiss rightfully, so we don't even know each other in
front of my parents. That's me. Listen, you're sitting on
one end of the table. I am the furthest spot

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from you. If possible, we won't sit next to each
other on the couch. There's three leave room for Jesus,
you know, like in front of my parents, there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Pro and happiness in my family, like my sister having
four kids, all immaculate conception, Like you're hooked up. I
think I've only seen them kiss on their wedding day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
That was starring enough, And that's dude. Sometimes this is
side note. Sometimes when I'm at a wedding, I think
I see that your grandparents are watching you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Oh I thought you were gonna say you think about parents.
If you've seen your friends kiss some of my friends,
I'm like, they are PDA and I appreciate it, thank
you so much. But I get to the wedding day
and I'm like, have I ever seen this couple nomes?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
All I think about is like, oh, your parents are
watching you kiss right now on my wedding day.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
An entire congregation, an entire congregation is watching you kiss.
Everybody's just staring at you. That's so strong.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
We all are just judging your kiss. And then if
you have the audacity to open mouth kit it's a pack.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
It's a and if you're going to grind on yourself
another at a club in front of your parents, you
best believe you're probably making out with them, Like, I
just don't I don't trust I don't trust you. I
don't trust either of these people because they're both doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
It's just a sixth grade grind line. They actually don't kiss,
they're just rubbing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Crazy, weird grazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Remind me not to invite my parents to my wedding
day because I don't want them to see me kiss.
Now that we've talked about it and we have to,
they have to watch me do a dance, and then
you know, I'm going to be playing two thousands rap music?

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
What are we going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Then? I want to grind?

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
My parents have to go to bed. I'm not like,
all right, I remember getting married.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I can't get married. I have to go to therapy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Because all because Alicia can't kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
My parents pages on the same wavelength.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
No, I agree, And it's crazy, but Jesse's making it
seem like, oh, this is just Lexi. You are participating.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Because you are participating in this, It honestly would be
weirder for me to like kiss in front of my
significant others parents that my own I could talk my
parents off the ledge, but your parents.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
That's the thing, because then, oh, I would never do
that in front of mind. Then don't do it in
front of hers. Don't do it in front of hers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Yeah, and Lexi's but he's like, Lexi's mom is out
with us. She stayed out later then then me and
West they went to some club I don't even remember.
But I was like, listen, well, Lexi's mom wants to
do great. It doesn't matter if she's out with you
for three hours, six hours, ten hours. We're not touching.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
We're also once she's out for one hour, go out
my girl, Like, be out till the sun comes out. Yeah, Like,
I'm not mom shaming over here. No, I don't care
if a mom comes to a club like she's already there,
why is she gonna go home early?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
But here's the thing. As long as she's out and
we're out with her, we're not gonna grind lips nothing
as our lips are sealed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Like, I'm not even holding your hand.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
No, we're on opposite sides of the table. I'm making
sure your mother's okay. See, that's the thing. That's the
weirdest part. If it was my mom, maybe I could
be like, just hold my hand, you weirdo. But if
it's someone else's mom and he's like kiss me, I'd
be like, I would rather die. I know. No.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Also, notice how it goes from like Jesse's shit talking
slowly eases in more and more. He goes from I
had to like talk and apologize to her mom and
sister too, I'm brinded in front of her mom to
her mom stays out later than me, Like can you
believe that? Like it's not just like judgment on his relationship,

(01:12:24):
But then he like starts to shit talk her family
and being like judge about her mom being out later
than him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Isn't it kind of funny? How you know Jesse wanted
the audience to like judge Lexi and her family, but
in the end I judge him the most because it's
not even.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I judge brinding in front of And that's the craziest part.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Great, So, yeah, Jesse's basically sitting here continuing to shit
talk Lexi and her family. I get it's weird. I
I'm oh, absolutely, but it's it's he's also guilty of
the weirdness, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Like, talk about it with West in your bedroom if
it like if it's gonna be on camera, like talk
your buddy about it. Like he keeps one uping it.
People aren't asking questions anymore. He keeps tacking on more
and more info.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
And you don't think Page is gonna talk about this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Come on the Page is shook her face. Her and West.
I was dying at their facial reactions because they were
just gagged at the whole thing that any of this happened,
That Jesse's talking about it like they are just mind
boggled by this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Means Page cannot compute. She's going to take the rest
of the day and think about this and then relay
it to her friends next weekend because she needs a
moment to figure out what's the weirdest part of the story,
what's yes, we don't know. So it's two forty one PM.
I get ready for our beach dinner we're doing tonight.
Gabby finally gets here. Lexi goes to Jesse in West's room,

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and first she's like, Jesse didn't even notice I was here,
And then he's like, hey, hot stuff, and they start
like hugging and touching and maybe kissing, and Wes looks
dead at the camera, a full Jim Halbert from the
Office moment, looks right at the camera and points and
he's like, this is not normal. This is weird, right,
And then he says in his interview, which you pulled

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this quote, He's like, I love that the two of
them are insane in a way because it makes me
look less insane. Honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Well, I think he has to rationalize it because he
has to be around it, like the most out of
this group outside of Lexi's family. You but you just
got to be like, they're fucking crazy. I guess I'm
in for the ride here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
This was my I The Office is one of my
favorite TV shows. I loved the deadpan look and the
point and he held his eye contact with the camera
and then went back to doing whatever he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Listen. It was beautiful reasons you need to break the
fourth wall, and this was a perfect reason, Like, you're
talk to us, my guy, because we're in it with
you here. What Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
If you've ever watched The Office, Jim Halpert is his way.
He's the way the audience connects through. That is Wes
in this moment and I fell in love with Wes
and Moore. I want to date it. It's so crazy anyway,
it's so bad. I love him anyway. Okay, So Lexi, Gabby,

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and Lindsay head to the beach. Gabby's in full heels,
by the way, which that's crazy. You're on sand girl,
got it? Anyway, Jesse and Amanda and Page have a
quick little chat. Jesse is feeling really good about Lexi.
He just needs to feel good about Sierra now, and
Amana is like, ah, having two girlfriends is tough, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
And they're like whoop hah. He doesn't even correct it.
He's not like, no, I don't stop saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Well, Amanda's like, can I give you advice? And Jesse's
like sure, and Amanda goes, listen, no jokes, no.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Jokes, yeah, yeah, cut him out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Jesse says he is sorry for what he said to
her about like what if he had met her before Wes,
But he was just joking and Amanda's like, but you
weren't because you said the same thing to Craig and
I and Paige's like no, literally, Craig thought you two
were going to hook up that night. And Jesse's like,
I say that to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
And Amanda's like, no, roll the cave did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
So we see the clip and Amanda's like, look, you
need to have a transparent conversation with Sierra. And here's
here's a little nother tip for you. Sierra doesn't like
when people just sit there and take it, so be
proactive and actually respond back. Right, so we head to
the beach. It's a great beach day. You know why

(01:16:25):
no one wore shoulder pads to the beach.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
I died at that right. See, Lindsay can take a joke.
She's she's clearly over it. She's not hung up on you.
Carl like that's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
And then we see the pick of them or the
video of them. I was like, don't show me the
fulling edge engagement in my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I can't take that's too soon. Pably like you're not
in on the joke, leave us alone.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
So so it's just the three girls right now, and
that's when Gabby's like, oh, Sierra said Carl hooked up
with Erna. Lindsay tells the girl she's like, Siah said,
Carl hooked up with someone, which we see the clip
and Lindsay says she doesn't believe it, which is honestly
the funniest. This is the best disk. Remember to keep
this in my back pocket for the next time an

(01:17:09):
ex pisses me off and he's like, I just fuked
a bunch of girls. I'm just gonna go I don't
believe you, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I I am also happy because when we got this
in the preview, I thought she was saying this to
the whole table and I'm gonna embarrass him with this.
And I was like, okay, that's a little too far,
like just it's not worth that, but this, when you're
just chat with your girls, this I bat on Lindsay's side.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
This was so funny. And then to make it funny,
to make it funnier, Lindsay goes, he didn't even hook
up with me and we were engaged.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
I mean, very very true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
The way I screamed, the way I went, She's right,
she's no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Is I believe that he was a little horny just
because it's it's summer and he's seen so many tamlines
that like that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Yeah. Anyway, look either way, whether it's true or not,
I don't care, because this was so funny that like
it doesn't matter to me. I was cracking up. I
was like, I kind of hope I didn't. I don't
even know. So the rest of the group is here.
The boys all get together in a little circle literally

(01:18:17):
ten inches from the table.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
I was like, wow, we're really like separating the groups.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Here, and Kyle goes, I don't know why, my wife,
after all these years, does it celebrate my sperm more?
And Amanda's like, I can hear you. And Kyle's like,
let's move the chairs, like he didn't already, just say it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
To the whole table, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
And Amanda's like, no, say it to my face. So
she goes over there and she's like, look, I'm thrilled
about your sperm. It's it's so great that you have
so much sperm. I couldn't be happier that your sperm
is a plus. But also we're not having a kid
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, Like why do we why do you need to
be woo?

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
So that page tells the table the girls and she's like,
Kyle is just like Craig where they need to be
celebrated all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
And I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Cracked, cracked. The code men are so because.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
They are like no, they typically get rewarded for any
level of effort anything they do. If you think about it,
like just look at mom's versus dad's, Like, yeah, a
dad like like feeds his kid, makes his kid dinner,
and it's like, oh my god, you're amazing. So that's
the baseline.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yeah, a mom is literally like late to school because
she had to make twelve lunches and then she also
has a full time job. But the dad left early,
and the school is like, oh, it's a shame that
you can't handle our motherly responsibilities.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yep, you're not involved enough for like you're not showing
up to what we need you to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
I will say I love my friends who are in
relationships and get married, and the women are like, well,
I'm the bread winner, so he has to figure out
the children.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
And I'm like that that's how it was in my
household growing up, Like my mom's the breadwinner and she
was like, I'm not doing ninety nine percent of these responsibilities.
Everything we will split in half. To be honest, my
dad did more child responsibilities than my mom and so
like that's that's expected now in my mind, Like that's
how I grew up, like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
She's bringing home the bread. He loves his life, step up,
my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
My god, no, like he should have and yeah, hell
he should.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Oh yeah. Anyway, seafood dinner is served and but then
I mean pissed if this happened on the food right here,
Like as soon as it came out, Jesse's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Like, hey wait, I was so confused because they put
their food, don't and then it felt like they like
never ate it, like he wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
When Jesse was like, hey, Siera, can I talk to
you alone? And everyone goes ooh, like that's awesome. Do that.
More so, she really makes him work for it. She's like,
where do you want to go? And he's like, we go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
You want to talk to me? Like clean this out?
Be like all right, I'm grabbing chairs, let's go talk
over you Like he can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
She's like, where are we going? And he's like over
there and she goes on the ground. Everyone's like you
better get chairs all the while. So they go and
then Kyle has to change his shorts for some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
I was so confused about it, gets pegged by Wes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
It was the weirdest I will not explain further how
the pegging happened.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
You just have to go watch it. Honestly, I thought
it was so funny when it's happening, but then it
ended and I was like, wait, why did we was that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I didn't even know how to take notes on it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I was like, how do I explain and just go
watch it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Or just go watch it? So Jesse and Sierra talk.
He apologizes for his comment, but.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
It was a Joe, you know, sorry about my hearing
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
And Sierra says she doesn't need him to feel bad
for her, and also Sierra doesn't even like friendships like this,
so she did question everything else Jesse has been saying
and doing, and including that don't touch me comment.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Yep, if everything's a joke, like, why would I believe
anything you said?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Well, that's when Jesse's like, that was also a joke,
and Sierra goes, usually when it's a joke, people.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Laugh, and neither of us laughed and I was gagged.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
That's what we said, though, I was like, so funny. Yeah,
it's not funny, so Jesse says or then Sierra says
that Jesse's the one playing two sides, and Jesse's like
I'm not playing two sides. I'm just exploring a new relationship.
What should I have done? Come do you as a
friend and been honest? And Sierra's like, yes, the entire thing.

(01:22:36):
You said yes, and she gave him it out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
She was like, you could have texted me. It's not
like you needed to be direct with me and sit
me down and have this whole conversation, like you just
had to say it to me and something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
That sent me. When he was like, what should I
have done? Been honest with you as a friend, and
she goes, yeah, yeah, and he's like, okay, fine, I
should have been honest with you as a friend. Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
He's like, wow, I had to do that. You mean
that one minute thing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Yeah. Then Sierra goes, you know what, it really doesn't
matter you function however you want to function, because I'm
over it. I'm over you, and I have one week
left to care and then I'm done with my summer.
And I went yo.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
When she said I only have like one more week
to deal with this, I was like that would cut
me to my core if I was friends with someone
and they were like I only have to deal with
you for one more week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Thank god, Jesse's never gonna recover. No, Jesse, this is
your death and he should take it. Take it, wave
the replace.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
That's a thing you thought like things with Wes were bad.
Wes just hurt her on like a relationship level, and
like the friendship faltered because of it. Yeah, but like
Sierra can still see him as like a human. You
fucked Sierra over in a friendship way, which I sometimes
think is even more intimate because you don't expect to,
like have friendship breakups. Sometimes you like see those romantic

(01:23:58):
relationships and you're like, this probably most likely won't work out,
Like you're only gonna end up with one romantic relationship
for most of us that your friends. You don't expect
that Like that hurts sometimes way deeper because you're so
caught off guard by it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Yeah, this was crazy. I this was savage. I love Sierra.
She really ended his life right here. It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Anyway, I can't believe there's still friends, to be honest,
it's kind of going.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I can't. That's the worst part about this is I
know that she doesn't hate.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Him, and I just I just hope she demoted him
and where she sees him in her life and like
has put up walls and just has barriers with him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
I do like I think it un watch What Happens Live.
She did say that she sees him like he's fun
to party with. She didn't actually say like we're friends.
She was just like, I see him and he can party,
which I think is a huge insult for someone to
just be like you're fun to go out with and
then nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
And I'm like, ooh, I if you've been like close
friends with them and then get demoted to that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
That's rough. Anyway. So next time I'm it is the
anniversary of Carl and Lindsay's breakup, which is brought up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
At the dinner. Why is this memorialized?

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I when I saw that, I went, why couldn't you
have put that in this episode? I have never wanted
to see anything more because I don't know how we
get here. I don't know how we're going to react.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
I'm Lindsay has been very funny though, and so I'm
so excited for her to be like, cheers to our
one year of the breakup, and I don't know what
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Oh, that dinner's going to be the entire episode because
we have like Lexi yelling at.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
CS, so Lexi and Jesse have more issues, and then
Jesse says some shit that causes Sierra and Lexi to fight.
So this dinner is going to be a lot of fun.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
It's going to be a twenty four hour episode, but
this time it's worth it because like this is worthy
of one episode, a giant, drag out, knock down dinner
where two, three, four or five people are fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I'm in, Oh, what I would give to be Wes
or Page in the situation where I just go I
don't know, I'll stay here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
West is like, oh my god, I have nothing going on.
I'm just gonna sit quietly because I cannot get any
round anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Literally, someone looks in. Jesse's like help me out, and
Wes is like, no, nope.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Wes is like if I don't move, they can't see me. Truly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
He's gabby going to get the wine in that one
fight or Lexi or whoever got up to get the wine,
and he stays in the kitchen. He melts down behind
the island and he's just gonna listen. Yeah, He's like
the adult what I would give to be Emerald in
this situation, not even on camera. I just fully enjoy myself. Gin.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
I wonder if he'll be back next weekend or.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
If I bet it's the same weekend or whatever. Who knows,
it could be tonight. We have no idea, no concept
of time anyway, because we have two episode, So like
next episode, we're gonna have one full dinner maybe Friday night,
and then we end the summer Saturday, Sunday. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Yeah, you know what they're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
No, you know what they're gonna do. They're gonna end.
They're gonna cut it off right in the middle of
the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Oh, you're right, it's gonna like the episode's gonna pick
up in this fight. Then they're all gonna go home
on Sunday, which is gonna just be the first like
five minutes of the episode. They're gonna come back, because
it seems like Lexi and Jesse have that conversation when
it's still a little bit light out, and so I
think they have that conversation, Jesse talks to everybody in
the bedroom, and then the fight at dinner happens. Both fights,

(01:27:35):
like Carl, well, it's not really a fight between Carl
and Lindsay at this point, but conversation, but.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I think right in the middle of the fight they're
gonna end it. And then we have for the second
part of course fun that fun Meredith, who is You're
not fun? It's it's still Jesse times to baby times times.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
If you didn't even take a week off from shit
talking her like you you just made up with.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Her us terrible. I'm like scared for the people that
are friends, like longtime friends with you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Well, what's annoying? Is oh? In that post that I
mentioned earlier in this episode about Lindsay saying like the
one two threes about like why she's not still interested
in Carl or like still like hung up on it,
Lindsay said she didn't know that that conversation happened. So
they didn't watch these episodes. I've always thought that they
got all the episodes. I have to then watch and

(01:28:33):
prepare for the reunion. But Lindsay's like, maybe they did
and Lindsay didn't watch them. But I'm worried that they
didn't get all the episodes, and like Lexi doesn't know
truly what's been said about her.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
No, how dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
I know, are you kidding me? I mean, maybe it
was just Lindsay, But like Lindsay said, she had not
seen that conversation, and I think Lindsay would watch all
of this season.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Yeah, she comes prepared, she knows how this works. She's
a friend. Bravo shooting. I want to know the gossip too,
yeah shrug, Yeah times two for Jesse. Anyway, who is
your fun?

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
I have a fun, but I have you. You go
first my fun?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Sierra, dude, I had fun obliterate. She obliterated half this
house and I had fun watching it. And I hope
she has her bisexual awakening. I would love to see
Sierra either with an athlete male or female, or like
a like a not a CrossFit jim Bro, like not
an asshole Jimbro. You know how some jim Ros are

(01:29:33):
like very like they used to be made fun of,
so then they started going to the gym, so they're
like very kind. Also like two types of jim Ros.
I want her with one of those Jimbros again, guy
or girl. I think it could be fun. Actually, Sierra,
since you're in New York, I think you should date
a New York Liberty basketball player. I would eat that up.
I would eat it up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Right, a book on it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
This is you just also in your I'm reading a
sports romance right now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
We're also basically writing writing sports romance. Go listen to
also for more of that. You're also just you're a
little biased.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
I'm biased, but no, I think, like listen, Sierra had
she is savior to women at this point. Keep obliterating
these men. It's fun. It's so fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Amen. Amen, Well in that regard, I'm sorry because I'm
I knew you were going to pick Sierra, So I'm
going a different direction. I'm going with West. My god,
he's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Guy's so good. If I love him, I'm so proud.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Oh he's making them like Jesse LEXI stuff tolerable because
it's it's like I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry you
went through that, but like that's entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
The look into the camera was next level hilarious. That
was that's up there with like Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
That was so good and it was so good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Okay, we have some thoughts to go over on the
episode from our Patreon, So Megan d said, would love
a video of the lindsayan Page car combo which we
talked about. Lexi and Jesse walking into the house together
was so awkward. I just want to know how awkward
the car ride was. Jesse grinding on Lexi in front

(01:31:12):
of her mom is a major it. Amanda is right,
she can't say don't give chances, but they have gotten
to the point where after last weekend, why would she
give him another chance? I think, why not have him
worked for it at least a week you know before.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Kyle and Amanda didn't. The house got involved because they
were friends with them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
But like the hell Lindsay to Lindsay told Amanda that Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
She is yes, but like it wasn't because like Kyle
was shit talking Amanda to the whole house and then
the house had to let go to Like it also
is different when the person wants to give them another
chance because they just hurt them, Like Jesse's making this
a whole thing for everybody else and now we got
to keep doing this like set us Free please? No?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Truly nice of Carl to check in. Kyle was adorable
in his set. Oh yeah, Kyle wore a great sat
Even Page really loved it. Again, where is Gabby and Emerald. Well,
Emerald was there. Yes, he didn't get the money. West's
excitement of getting the leftovers from Sierra's drink. Carl's really

(01:32:16):
taking a risk with his business. Sierra and Lexi together
was amazing. Yes, set all the boundaries. Also, Yes, Jesse
is punching hard above his weight. No, Actually, this man
is so terrible Anyway, Amanda being real and talking about
all the issues of having a child.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Jesse, you don't know why Sierra is mad at you, really,
because she has told you why she's mad at you
when you don't listen.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Kyle's standing up for Sierra like a real sister would
real Housewives of Beverly Hill's her real sister or real
sister would. Okay, Megan goes on and says, Sierra wanted
to go over there and hold West when he was
talking about his friend, and you could see in her
phrase that she still kind of cares about him. Totally agree.

(01:33:03):
Can someone explain to me why we're mad at Sierra?

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Like, I know you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Explained it to me, but I need someone who believes
it to explain it to me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Yes, Like, why are you so upset with either of them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yeah. Also Sierra with the Nissan commercial we better What
did I miss?

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
I did see that? Yeah? Yeah, I think it just
came out today. Sierra has a sponsorship with Nissan Good
Get a Girl.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
The dormy fix is crazy West letting his friend know
how weird his relationship is. Finally, he didn't actually say it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
He's just not clear as day. He's just kind of like,
stop bringing me to these weird evouents.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Jesse and Sierra having the conversation was needed.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
I don't know how they got over this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
To beget being friendly again is beyond me. No, I
need to see how this happens. And we have one
weekend left. But don't worry, Megan, we have two episodes left,
so she says she can't wait for the season to end.
I'm I'm good on it. We can then it right here,
right now if we want anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
I agree, Lindsay. I'm looking forward to the confrontation though, like, finally,
let's get to this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yeah, Lindsay says Jesse has learned nothing. He made Lexie
look crazy again when he said that. She gave him
lists and list of stuff of why he's the worst.
But then she answered the phone and asked if they
were getting back together or not. I think she realized
he doesn't understand when I tell him what's wrong, so
I'll write it down. When he called, she probably was like,

(01:34:28):
did you read it? And do you understand? And if so,
do you want to try and date again? And this
man could not stop spinning things to make her look
more nuts. No, actually, that that's a good.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
That's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Three different ways this conversation could have went this. I
the house needs to start being like Jesse, exactly how
did the conversation goes?

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Just give me your phone, Like, give me your phone
so I can read exactly what happened, because you have
no clue what's going on? My guy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Immediately, if Lindsay from the Patreon you and I were
listening to Jesse tell the story, we would have stopped
him and been like, that makes no sense. How did
you get there? Like in real time, we wouldn't have
just listened and been like that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
But the thing is, again, we as the audience, have
the many of him not taking conversations, Like Paige doesn't
know that this man doesn't know what's going on, right right,
So like I think it often looks like Paige and
Sierra and Amanda are not girls girls because they're believing him.
But like, no, you're but I wuantn't you believe your
friend until proven otherwise.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
You're totally right, You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I'm not giving great and I'm not even mad at
like Lexi next week for believing Jesse over like Sierra,
because like she doesn't know Sierra. Like you're gonna believe
the person you know the most. You're right unless like
proven otherwise right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Okay, And then Lindsey says Wes is funny with his
little excitement that he got over seers leftover drink and
the way he looked into the camera when Lexi and
Jesse were kissing, and when he said he liked how
I'm saying they were because it makes him feel ass crazy.
He's sugging me in more and more with a story
about front passing and how he cried to Sierra. I

(01:36:03):
get why Sierra got up from the table. I'm sure
she was thinking, damn, I really I was really there
for you. And then you couldn't stop talking about how
you broke up with me to reporters still struggling hating
him for the way he handled the breakup, but can
he be a loser with an asterisk? Is lovable loser
a category? Yes, as I talked last episode, all shitty men,

(01:36:27):
you can get most men. Honestly, you could categorize into
a loser or weirdo. Loser is someone you could like
hang out with, have a conversation with, but you're like,
they're kind of a loser, and a weirdo is someone
you like, don't want to get with intendants and the
way I put it, the way I put it in
Summerhouse is Kyle and West are losers, but Jesse and
Carl are weirdos, like keep them away. Yeah, and Andrea

(01:36:51):
is the miss perfect He's he's the asterisk.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
And yeah, we talked about this on also. Then it's
like a Venn diagram of people who are lose.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Nick Nile Nick files both anyway. But yes, but the
thing about losers is they can be very lovable if
we want to bring on the other shows. Shep from
Southern Charm is such a loser, but he is very
lovable in like a way, like he's so shitty. It's
like you can't cross a loser.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
But you like you could be you can enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
You could shoot the ship. You could shoot the ship
with them, have them as an equation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Weirdos like your God is like freaking out twenty four
to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Yeah, losers the guy you see show up at the
party and you're.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
It's like Thomas Rabinel weirdo, weirdo.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Craig is a weirdo too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
But like Austin loser, you know, yeah, yeah, there you
can come. Tomas, The problem a little safe for you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Tom Jacks is a weirdo. Tom Sandimal is kind of both.
He falls in with the nick byals. I agree, but yeah,
losers are they're just losers, you know, they're just They're
just men. They're just shitty men. So yes, anyway, and

(01:38:09):
then Lindsay says, where's Emerald? Let me tell you, well,
this poor man, this poor man anyway, shitty episode. Honestly,
I wouldn't even say this is our best work, but
we tried our hardest with what we were given.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
It's usually the bad episodes give us good ones. But
I don't think here's anything dismiss We are so.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Good at talking about literally nothing because.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
You're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
No, we do it on also all the time. The
Problem is that the content's not even good because there
doesn't make any content usually good, but.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
We usually anchor it in one funny moment or one
discussion point in a boring episode, we can find something.
But the best thing was Wes looking at the camera,
which like, we've.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Already beaten all these storylines to death, though we don't
need to go into Jesse anymore, we don't need to
go into Kyle, and we've done for at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
They had, I guess, give us this weekend because we
had to know that Lexi and Jesse like made up.
But it annoys me because this would have been a
skippable weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
No, truly, don't even watch the episode. Just listen to
our podcast anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
That's our show.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Do all the things I mentioned at the beginning of
the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Love you, thanks for joining. Bye,
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