Summer House Season 9: Episode 5

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it off. Oh no, no, no, true,
you'll never guess, so sidebar. Yes. And also I feel
like I shouldn't have to remember everything I know. Actually
I have to talk about this. Three two one, Hi everyone. Hey,
I'm Militia and I'm Meredith. And this is also podcast

(00:21):
Summerhouse Edition. We are at season nine, episode five. It's
a slow summer. We're only on the second weekend we've
ever seen. We end the second weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
But they did confirm your timeline theory of it has
been two weeks because at that dinner they mentioned how
they mentioned Jesse and Lexi have known each other for
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I would just like to say, I don't know what
we were doing in the missing weekend. I'm pissed. I'm pissed.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think Jesse posted a video of them playing a
game where Bailey was blindfolded and like how to like
get them. And I have to assume they're just trying
to cut Bailey out as much as possible, to pay
her as little as possible, because I bet she got
an episodic rate. So they were like, you know what,
it wasn't interesting enough and we have enough of a
storyline let's just focus on the other weekends.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh, okay, that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I don't think we will ever see Bailey again.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I have to still argue though, like this summer must
be boring. If it's we've filmed two weekends and we're
five episodes, you can cut. We don't need more than
eight episodes this season then. But I bet it's gonna
be sixteen or some shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, because what happens in the back half of the season.
We know that Craig is coming and there's gonna be
a fight.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
All next episode is gonna be that Friday that Craig
comes up, But the whole episode is gonna be the
Friday Craig comes up.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's so true, because we're gonna get like ten minutes
of them driving in and like all like walking into
the house and struggling with the door.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Kyle, are you nervous to see Craig? He's like, I'm
not nervous. I'm just gonna I'm gonna confront you.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And then we saw in the next time on it'll
be like Craig being like I don't want to have
talk yet, Like, let's do it tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I bet, Oh my god, brav. I'm wull be so mad.
They're gonna cut it to be continued. They're gonna to
be contented us.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Because because we have nothing this season, we have nothing
going on, which is crazy now because the only other
thing we know that happens is Lexi saying she doesn't
trust Sierra. And if that's what we're holding on to
for the rest of the season, give.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Me eight episodes and be done with it. Give me
eight and be done. I'd rather watch Lindsay have birth,
like literally, take me into the city and take me
to a Lama's class or whatever with Lindsay. That would
be more interesting than whatever we're getting.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And Wow, they are really lucky that Paige and Craig
broke up because that actually is the ending. Like, that's
what I'm interested in now. It's not gonna be like
Scanna all where they had to add in an extra season.
Those editors are like, thank god, we got something juicy,
Like now we don't have to put all this crap
in the middle.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
We're gonna make everyone wait until the last ten minus
and it's of the last episode. Correct.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
At least we get Southern Term finale soon, where we
get a touch.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
On thank god. Okay, Well, before we get into everything
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(03:28):
get into the episode, dimesco No, wait, I gotta go
to the top of my notes is at the bottom.
Don't you visit anything? Oh being ready? I'm not, I'm unprepared. Okay.
Previously on Summer House, Lindsay is having a girl, Lexi
is the jealous type, and Jesse is trying to navigate that.

(03:49):
Emerle was the first person to bring back a guest
to the house. Kyle Rage texted Page about Craig and
how Craig lies. Kyle is taking all his anger out
on Page, and Page does not hold back when confronted
with it. And they are at the beach and Kyle
and Page need to talk. So it is Saturday, July twentieth, three,

(04:12):
twenty four pm. Kyle and Page are talking. Kyle basically
says he's sorry that they even need to have this conversation.
He is upset. He felt like this was a personal attack.
His business is under attack. Page says, like, look, she's
not Hannah, she's not Craig. She told Craig not to
do the Sprits campaign. I'm assuming she says this, but

(04:32):
I'm assuming it's Sprits. And if Craig was going to
do it, he had to talk to Kyle. So Paige
is completely out of this. And Kyle says, when he
was texting or Paige says, when Kyle was texting Page,
she felt like Kyle is disrespecting her and regarding her
as a friend. And Paige had like, literally is trying

(04:53):
to put it into Kyle's head that she is not
responsible for her boyfriend and her best friend. Kyle said,
why does she have to say? Literally, Kyle says, with Craig,
it feels like how Craig went about it, like that's
what really hurt Kyle, And it feels like Carl Craig
stabbed him, which Paige totally understands. She just doesn't want

(05:15):
to be in the middle of it ever. Again, Kyle
knows that he has no control over the people, like
Page doesn't have control over the people in her life.
He admits it was wrong of him to put Page
in the middle. Craig is coming next weekend, Craig and
Kyle can talk then, Great, Page and Kyle hug it
out really like anti climactic.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
This is, I feel like the most accountability we have
seen Kyle ever take though, because this is pretty cut
and dry. You should have Page text or she does
have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Great. Yeah, there was really nothing to say besides like, no.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Hey, you have no control over this, so let me
go talk to the people who are.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Doing this to me. Probably for the best, because now
that Page and Craig are broken up, you would have
to kick Craig out of your campaign anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
So you know, Kyle was pumped when they broke up
because now he can just go.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Hard on Craig.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And like when we were doing the pre show press,
like we saw Kyle saying like they are so hard
on Page's side, like he was he was ready to
be anti Craig and like be open and ready and
like to fight with him in the president Do.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You think Kyle is like Paige, do you want to
be a spokesperson for lover Boy? And She's like I'm
not getting involved with your crappy company.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Cayl's like, I have idea listen, not liming Lover and girl.
Remember Crossout Boy when you hated me you wanted to
buy it. Now we can team up against Craig and
spreads whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
So it's all good with Kyle and Paige. Kyle apologizes
publicly to the group for making things awkward.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Is like, smile now that like he's not feuing and
like feuding with somebody in the house.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
He's like, we can have fun again. We're good. So
it's three forty seven pm. Lindsay is think. You know,
they're all just sitting around beach chilling, and she's like, hey,
do you think my belly button will go out when
I'm pregnant? And I was like, you know, I cannot.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I never thought about that that I didn't know that
didn't need to I think, I mean, it makes sense
if somebody were to say.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
It to me. It was unnecessary for me to think
about it.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
When I was writing the quotes down that I like
capture every episode, I've started writing that and I was like,
I don't want to write this down.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Why, uh Well, Jesse makes a joke He's like that's hot.
And then she's like, hey, are my boobs bigger than
Amanda does? And everyone's like, oh, I don't know, because
Amanda's got big boob. Yeah, but Wes is like, Lindsay,
yours are milky, and she's like not yet, I don't
have the milk yet. It was like, and they're full
of nutrients.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Then I'm like, stop your mom now, your mom being
like you know, the women's space, I'm like, stop stop
talking right now. This is not cute, Like I want
you to be Jesse hyping her up because their boobs
are big and not that they're milky and full of nutrients.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, So like Sierra's you know, feeling both Lindsay and
Amanda's boobs. Carl's being a really good sport and like
giggling at everything. Jesse and West are like participating, and
we keep getting shots of Lexi's sour ass look on
her face. She just looks like she's having a sour time.
I just don't I don't know how that she's edited that.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I don't think it's as harsh as like, I'm sure
they did some work in the editing, yeah, but it's
not like she's playing into it either like this is
how the group is and we when we have the
house as a whole, getting along and bantering like this,
that's what makes it fun. Like this season is not
that fun, let's be honest, but this vibe is fun,

(08:45):
so get on board.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Lexi then in her interview kind of weirdly makes this
boob conversation about her. It was just edited weird. I really,
I don't think the producers were like, what do you
think about Lindsay making a comment about her boob and
then Lexi came up with this. I think it might
have sparked something, but it was cut weird. But Lexi

(09:09):
basically says this boob conversation like makes her a little
insecure because she doesn't have boobs, and you know she
that's like a big insecurity for her. And she has
brought it up to Jesse before that she like wants
him to guess up the girls, but doesn't want it
to make it seem like he's trying to date them,

(09:31):
and it isn't.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I've never wanted thought he wanted to date any of those.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
People commenting on Lindsay's pregnant boobs. That to Lexi is
like you're implying you want to date her when she's
about to have another man's baby. It all two plus
two eagles five. We've solved it. And I don't have boobs.
She just doesn't need a guide to make her feel insecure.
And I get that. I get that, but he's like not,

(10:00):
it was weird. Like again, we're two weeks into this,
that's it. We're two weeks in. He has had friendships
with these girls for like over a year now. He's
really good friends with like Sierra that was really his
rider die last summer and this year, like him and
Amanda have had this banter thing. But that's the thing.
Amanda's literally married, Lindsay's Linda really pregnant, Page is literally

(10:25):
in a relationship, and Sierra literally dated Jesse's best friend.
All these girls are not gonna date Jesse, Like it
is so clear. And she's sitting here like why is
he gassing up a pregnant woman?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Especially, well, like this conversation especially, I don't get because
they'll say something and Jesse just gives like a static
response like oh that's hot, like Paris Hilton. That's he
just immediately has a response that you know he's not
like thinking so hard about it, being like oh yeah,
like I love your boobs.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's not those types of comments. He's not going home
and thinking about Lindsay's hot boob.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
No, No, So I wish I wish she could just
see that this is the dynamic because this is kind
of this has shifted into like a girl household of that,
like I have a guy friend like this. We kind
of made him be a girl a little bit with
like the fun talks about things and like giving girls

(11:21):
he's dating nicknames like we're like, no, you need to
do it our way, and this is the girl way,
Like we're gonna we're gonna feel each other's boobs and
we're gonna crack up about it and Jesse's gonna throw
out some funny little banter about it and it's not
that serious.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well I think too, right, Kyle's married, so he can
kind of be a girl with any of the girls.
Like if he said, Lindsay, can I feel your boobs?
A man, it would be like, go for it, because
like literally nothing's gonna happen. Yeah, Carl, most of the
girls he'd have either shot their shot with this dude, yeah,
or Carl has already friend zoned him. Carl would never
like touch Lindsay's boom, but he's gonna Kiki with Page

(11:56):
or Siara, and like that's normal. So Carl did just
sit and like giggle at this conversation. That's fine too.
Like if if Amanda was like, Carl, come feel my boobs,
that again would be like would buy whatever. Well, he's
like a girl at this point. He's like kind of
a girl if they didn't have the history they had.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, Amanda, Oh I thought you said Lindsay don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh my god, he can be a girl with anyone else,
even like Paige, because like.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, in the greater sense of the house, Carl can.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Be Carl's a girl, but like he's doing his best
like Kiki with Lindsay in a way that's not off
you Wes, he's off limits to all the girls in
the house because of Sierra, so he's a girl and
Jesse no one wants him but Lexi, so he's a
girl to everyone else. So like you can't be mad

(12:48):
it like driving me knots we're two weeks last.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I understand her not getting it, maybe like the first weekend,
but this is their third weekend. So you should watch
you should watch the show. Then if you watch the show,
you would fucking know, or just watch the household, like
see how it runs. Like this is happening in the
open too, like we are a in public and be
with a whole group. It's not like Jesse's laying in

(13:11):
Amanda and like with Amanda and Lindsay in a room
like touching their boobs.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
That was even touched it. He hasn't even touched a boob.
He just said that's hot. And she's like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
That He's like, oh my god, I can't believe he
just said in front of everybody he hates my boobs.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
And I can't believe he's a boob guy and I
don't have boobs. So then Wes asked Lindsay, Wes is
so weird. He's like, hey, I kind of liked where
this conversation. I agree a big I was so angry here.
Wes is like, hey, what sports would you want your
daughter to get into? Because that's fun. And then he
goes or maybe pageants and Lindsay goes paget, she goes

(13:49):
ew ew and West was like, I don't know that's
a girl thing. I'm trying to be inclusive, and I
was like, sir, you're being massogynist.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well it's like you don't know Lindsay either, because that
really did r otc in like high school.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Like she is not a pageant girly flatten Kyle against
the door? What are you talking about? Live in the brain.
But like you're you're like, oh, that's a girl's thing.
I was trying to be inclusive. Sports are a girl's thing?
What is He's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I don't mind like him just asking about sports is great,
like that is that is West's thing? So like you're
interested in it and you don't have to pivot it because.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's a girl. Why wouldn't be like, ah, sports are
such a boys now? Like the fuck come on, especially now,
especially in these years, everybody watches women's sports. Why was
it pageants? Why didn't you be like or would you
want her to be more of an artsy like musical
type person, yeah, or like even dancing?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
If he said that, like that's that is the girls sport?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, great, cheerleading, but also you don't know, Lindsay, this
girl's playing field hockey. Just kidding.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Jem Ol can do whatever she wants no, no, this girl's
playing hockey. I think, like full on with bo on
the ice checking those men.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, hell yeah. Jeva Lindsay does say raising a child
is gonna be different because you know, she grew up
in the suburbs, which is different from raising a child
in the city, and West is like, yeah, less yard activity.
That's such a mid Western I literally anytime someone's like, oh,
they live in the city with their child, I'm like,

(15:23):
where's their backyard? It's such a Midwestern I think about
this too.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And a house I like kind of like peek around
to see if they have a yard. But I'm like,
even even that, like a city yard is not the same.
You can't like play te ball.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, when I tell you, my parents would lock me
out of the house in the backyard and be like
kill five hours. Oh my god. Yeah, I think that's okay.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
That era has definitely gone to But Midwest during the nineties,
in like eighties and nineties, it was the best time ever.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Even two thousands, it was yeah, that's true, that's dinner
and before everybody had a cell phone, it was like
come home when the lights come on, when like the
sun's setting, and dinner will be ready given we did
recognize that the eighties, that's that was very eighties. By
the time Meredith and I were doing this, our parents
were like, you can you have to stay in this

(16:13):
are Yeah? I didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I had my first house, so we had a neighborhood
full of kids.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So, like, to be honest, cars, did you have to
stay in the neighborhood?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, I guess I did. And then when I got
I had to.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Stay in the neighborhood. Once I got older, it was
like I would tell my parents where I was. Yeah,
because like they grew up when kids were missing because
they didn't have to come home to the lights game.
I guess I didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Want to leave my neighborhood my first one, and then
by my second one. And like when I would walk
around somewhat near my neighborhood, like to the closest gas
station that was like fourteen years old, I just couldn't
get you, like we wanted to go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So uh back to Lindsay's kid,
who is going to grow a city kid? Your city kid.
Lindsay mentions that her in Turner don't even live together
and Danielle cannot believe this. Oh my gosh. She's like
what And Lindsay's like, we've only been dating for six months,

(17:08):
like we've done it wrong. We already have this baby,
Like I'm not gonna say, hey, also move in like
we're already are under a cooker pressure, like we don't
need that. Yeah, And Danielle's like when is he gonna
move in? And Lindsay's like nevers, like he's.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Gonna be at my house like most nights. It's not.
She's either or like he either lives with me full
time or he never sees the baby.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Well, Lindsay's like, he'll just sleep over. I feel like
this is not that weird. No, And Lindsay's like or
Danielle's like, how do you know this is gonna be
suitable suitable for you if you don't live with him,
And Lindsay's like, well, we will move in together when
it's right. He also lives like right near her, like
down the street.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, so he used to like go pack a few
more clothes, okay.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, And Danielle is like, you know, in her interview,
she's like, I don't know why Lindsay's now trying to
think things at a normal pace. We're already pregnant, And
I was like, that's why. Ye kind of bet you've
shamed that.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Girl rightfully so in the Carl situation, but you've shamed
that girl on national television for moving too fast, and
now you're mad at her for not moving faster like that.
We said Carl was fast and that was like a year,
and she'd known him for so long.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
She knows he is eight years.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, he's like lightning speed, Like, yeah, it's best And
why aren't we like revolving our life around like lease cycles.
It's not like his lease is up and he's like,
you know what, I'm going to sign another lease and
not live with you for one whole more year.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, also just acknowledging that, like Lindsay already knows what
it's like to live with a man and then that end.
So I'm sure she's like, why would I want to
do that with a kid? Yeah. Danielle's point is that
if it seems like a good relationship, why wouldn't you
want there all the time? Like it could be unfair
to Lindsay. And Lindsay's like, why do we need to

(19:04):
live together? He will be there all the time? And
he basically.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Does live there, he just has another place where all
of his other stuff is.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Also, why are you assuming this guy's like we don't
even know him, He's just a deadbie dad. He's never
going to show up to take care of his kid. Like, yeah,
so that's a lot. I think there are men out
there who want to take care of their child. So
like Turner might ask to come over, you like, do
not just leave Lindsay with it, right? I don't even
think he has to ask.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'm sure he has his own settings, keys to her
priends to go see his daughter. Y.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yes. Wild.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
A lot of people online are saying like, oh, Danielle's
a close enough friend where Sarty knows this stuff, so
it's really shady she's bringing up on camera and I
don't think.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
She actually knows this.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I don't think they're that close because just two years
ago they had that big falling out and Lindsay has
other friends that are closer to her.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I think after everything with Caw, I think it's great
Danielle was there for Lindsay, but then this other turn
took a very quick picko took over Lindsay's life very
quickly Danielle is not on the same road, which is okay,
But I think then Lindsay's probably not confiding in all

(20:18):
of the details true with Danielle, because Danielle's just as
Danielle kind of doesn't get it here, right, And I
get that with Danielle, right, she went through a terrible
breakup too, and she's like, you know, figuring out her life, right,
So she's maybe trying to like figure out Lindsay's maybe
she's not in a position I don't know, but I

(20:38):
can understand when my friends don't give me the details
of their birth plan because I'm not in that area, right,
That's true, Like, I can get it now. If you're
not gonna tell me about the time you went out,
got drunk and throw up on yourself, I'm offended. That's
my area. But but yeah, I don't I don't know
the logistics of you and your baby daddy. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I don't think they're that close, and that's a good point.
They're not really in the same aspects of life and
no shade to that.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, And so Danielle just doesn't want Lindsay to feel
like she's single momming it, which Lindsay's like, I don't
feel that way, and then big jump to say that's
not crazy. Why are crazy? Why are we Tanner's a deadbeat?
Like why are we assuming that Lindsay's doing this on
her own?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, like just because he's not in the public eyean
on this TV show he's like not around then, like.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's just not true. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I respect him more for not being on Bravo because
we know Bravo.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Has a career. He also has a career. He's not
going to jeopardize that career to be in the public eye.
It's just not worth it for him.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
No, I to be honest, job. Yeah, the more and
more people are on Bravo, the less I would want
to be on reality TV.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
No, truly, your life is ripped apart. Remember when Bravo,
like no one really watched it, so your life didn't
get like ripped apart that bad? Yeah, Like you could
still get a job.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Even after you, like reiperted, some not be this serious. Yeah,
that's why one upping each other on like how chaotic
and tragic our life can be.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, I totally get it with Tanner. He already is
what a doctor turner but yeah, Turner, Tanner Turner, I
don't know. That's how much we don't know about him
in a great way. Whatever Lindsay in her interview is
basically like shocked that Danielle feels this way, and she's like,
for once, I'm moving slow and Danielle has something to

(22:33):
say about that, and she's like, what if things don't
work out with Turner, Like nothing's guaranteed, which I think
is a responsible mom position.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I think Lindsay has matured in a certain emotional way
where she is really thinking critically about every move she's making.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Because she has a child. Baby.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, and I think that's really really good obviously for
the child, but great.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
For Lindsay to.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I love her, Hubbs, She's tu ten not notes on
Lindsay this season.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
What did Turner say later in the episode good night
to hubs and cubs? Oh that was cute. I didn't
write it down, but that's what I'm going to call
her now, Hubs and coss.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't believe he sent that, but whoever copy wrote
back from Jabo.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
The ick I would get if a man sent that
to me.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I just can't imagine the process of like the editors
being like, all right, what are we gonna say these tech.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Totally we don't know Turner, what do we think he
said this? I never believe the texts that are on
my screen. No, I think he just helped move the storyline,
which are terrible. Okay, So it's four to twelve pm.
The boys play this game called cam Jam, Cam Cam Jam. Yeah,

(23:50):
I don't know it. Well, it doesn't matter all the
time in high school doesn't matter. So West hells Jesse
because they have a little talk that he hasn't heard
Jesse talk about Lexi once today, and Jesse's like, jokes
on you. I brought her up in the car that
you weren't in on the way to the beach.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Just know, if you say this to me, you need
to like commit me if I'm the person where they're like,
oh my god, crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You haven't talked about the person you've known for two
weeks in a day. Yeah, in like the last hour.
Yeah he was over. Yeahs could sap. And so Jesse
asked for the girl's advice. He's feeling a little weird
because Lexi made it very clear that she's a jealous person,
and that makes Jesse a little nervous. But he also
hasn't liked anyone for a long time, and there has

(24:33):
been times that he has liked girls but hasn't given
it a chance, and he regrets that he's over it,
to be clear, but he regrets it. Wes has just
mostly said that he like loses his bro. He's like,
LEXI better be given it to you if if I
don't have my Boddy out with me.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I was excited for them to have a like bros season,
So I'm west right now.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm like, damn it. Yeah, yeah, damn it. They's still
having on their pro season there. One of them is
always like chained up. Yeah, which is fine. Jesse brings
up how Wes ditched everyone last night and snuck out
to go sleep on his buddy's couch with a girl.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Well cap too, but which I get. I think that
actually is very respectful on the first time. Yeah, so
Wes admits ditching everyone, who's a dick move. He tells
Jesse again he didn't hook up with anyone. Jesse says, like,
Wes shouldn't have to hide though if he's hooking up
or dating anyone, and must is like, that's true, but
for the sake of keeping peace. I really don't want

(25:37):
to talk about it, and Jesse says like, yeah, you
don't have to brag about it, but like don't hide
and don't leave people behind. Yeah, which I think is fair.
I said this last week. I don't think he needed to, like,
you know, sneak out. Agree, he doesn't have to openly
talk about it, but him not talking about it leaves
this like openness with Sierra that I we you need

(26:00):
to finalize it and be like and I hang out
with a girl.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Jesse has a good point, like you're also sneaking out
on like other people in the house and like ditching
other people, and that's also gonna rub.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Some shadies like it. Just just talk about it and
like meet up with people. Yeah, so Wes is like,
Sierra just wripped my head off, which I want to
be clear, sir, that was child's play. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
He talked about it on Watch What Happens Live and
he was like, do you were you expecting that? And
he was like no, but definitely deserved.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
But rip's head off is crazy. Paige didn't even really
rip Kyle's head off the night before, and that was greater.
That was a greater fight again.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I can be to do, I said on my also
on the Also podcast episode, I can be meaner.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
But truly, it's like he didn't watch scandabal like Ariana
riped Sandival's head off and that was amazing to watch,
but like all Sierra did was like confront him in
a business sense, like it was I would do that
at work.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's true, that's true. She just like called him out
and was like stopping a little bitch and like talking
to new like outlets.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Come talk to me. Would do at my day job.
And her hair sucks? Yeah, so what where what this
man needs to toughen up?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I just don't think again. I think in his mind
he was like, oh, I cleared the air with her,
We're all good. I did a little like article no biggie,
and so he's like, whoa, that was diabolical. But now
that in present day, in March twenty twenty five, he's like,
wait a minute, Okay, I kind of see what happened
there now, I.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Guess anyway, but he does say he's trying to keep
his own peace because he doesn't really like confrontation and
like makes him very uncomfortable. So he's we know, he's
trying to, but Wes doesn't know what the right thing
to do is. He just knows he doesn't want to
be a dick to her. And Jesse's like, at least
she's laughing at your jokes and Wes is like, hard
not to. I'm fucking fire. This week she laughed.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
At one joke and they talked about it like four times.
The dude, the power us women have is diabolical.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
What's the saying where like men aren't afraid of women
because they might be embarrassed, and women are afraid of
men because they might be killed. Like Wes just doesn't
want to be embarrassed by Sierra, So he's like he's like,
oh my god, she laughs and like I'm in the clear.
She loves me. I'm good. And it's like, nah, dude,
she's just not embarrassing you. Yeah, she's just not calling

(28:29):
you out, like could be worse anyway. That it's time
to go. It's six oh three pm. We're back at
the house. The door is stuck like always, it's time
to make so bad this season so terrible? Why don't
we fix it? The show has zero budget, like truly, well.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's not their house. Whoever owns this house. I'm like,
you see this on camera?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
You could think Bravo would be like, here's a few hundred.
Just get it cleared up for when we film here.
Oh true, it's time to make some burgers. But Wes, Jesse,
Carl Page, and Amanda are gonna go out for dinner.
I'm happy. Kyo's like that's genius because if you get
Paige and Amanda out, they will stay out. You just

(29:14):
have to get them out.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I love a split dinner. Like, here we go, let's
talk about the beast girls.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, so Lexi go weird, goes into Jesse and Wes's
bathroom when Jesse is showering, and I think they shower together,
but they don't hook up because Wes is in the room.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay, if I'm Wes, this is my foorst nightmare being
the friend. Like sharing a room and you and your
person are like like, it's like, claw my eyes out,
leave me out of this, don't do this in my room.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Like who invited you? Lexi? Literally, if you're sharing a
room with me, you have to get my sign off
to have your little your fling in.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You tell he's annoyed because later in the episode, he's like,
LEXI better not be in my room.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I know he's done. He's done with it. So Danielle
is going to go to a house party in Southampton,
but she will meet up with everyone after and we
know she's good for it. She's not a West, She's
not gonna sneak. No, she'll be here. So the whole
house is basically matching. We're doing like a white tan
light kind of vibe, except Carl's weird green shoes. He's like,

(30:25):
am I gonna get made fun of? And I was like, yeah,
by me. The best is he's like, it's a little
too late. I just got to leave. No, that was terror.
What are they.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Appreciate him wanting to be like into fashion more. I
think he's getting inspiration from like West, just like doing
whatever West wants to do. But Carl, you started on
the show wearing polos and really tight ass white jeans
like the bright aus green crocs with kind.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Of a green clogs crop clogs.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, but they didn't go with the pants anyway.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
No, it was like he went he had like tan
and white on and he was like, this is my
splash of color. No, sir, your shoes cannot be that color.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Hanley leaned a little olive, so it's like clashing on
the like color scales.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
It didn't work. I'm surprised Paige went in public with
him because I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, I think because his little feet were under the
dinner table and she doesn't have to deal with that.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
She sat right across from him. You pages, the fashion
needs to can feel the free fashion crime. She can
feel the fashion crime coming her way.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I think if he wants to do moments like this
in the future, I think that's wonderful. I think every
guy should explore fashion a little bit more. I think
they they kind of get ragged on or like fair
Like I love that guy, start getting more into fashion.
But how about we go talk to like maybe not
Wes because he's a little quirky for Carl's style, but.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Like, yeah it works for Wes. Call someone to you
find someone with kind of the fashion you want to
go after, but then like you use them as inspiration,
but then talk to someone who's more your fashion. Yes,
like I am inspired by Paige, but I'm more of
Amanda's type of fashion. So I would go to Amanda

(32:18):
and be like, how can I dress this up to
look more like Paige. Copy Amanda's outfit. Dress it up
to the inspiration you want, you know what I mean? Yes,
so he should copy like Jesse's outfit.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
But he did throw in a quirky fun thing that
kind of did.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's what he did. It just didn't work. It just did.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
But you need to ask the girls for advice on
them how to pair pieces together, because I don't think
the green clogs were that bad. I think they were bad.
They were really bad with this outfit. I think there's
a way bad to style them that could be. Okay, No,
we will differ. Burnham, I think what I think Wes

(32:58):
could have pulled those off them? I don't because it all.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
It depends on the model too though, Right if you
put one of Page's outfits on me, you're not even
want to buy it. If you put one of West's
shoes on Carl burn it, I think we could have
pulled them off. Great, the model matters. Burn these shoes.
Burn them.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
The shoes aren't the worst problem. It's how they were
styled and who they were on.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
And they were terrible shoes.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
We need to start with, like the crocheted shirts that
and like things that West like rolls in like start
with that, ease into that kind of Carla is just.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
So polo shirts in white pants. I can't I can
anything out of the ordinary white jeans right now in
my mind, I hate it. I hate them anyway. Lexi
and Jesse say a very long goodbye, to the point
that the car might leave without Jesse. And they do
this all text me the whole time, Miss so sweet nothings.

(33:56):
Don't text her at all. It's three hours you'll s're
gonna see her at the club. And what do you
think is gonna happen at dinner with a married woman
and a taken woman, a guy who just got out
of there's great clogs, a guy with green clogs and Wes,
what do you think? We're in no danger and everything's

(34:19):
being filmed that too, We're in zero danger. Okay, So
it's eight sixteen pm. Sierra's just hanging in her bed scrolling,
but she comes downstairs because it's time for burgers for
the house. Sierra does ask Kyle, like, how'd your chat
at the beach with Page Go? Kyle says he apologized
he was just overwhelmed. Last night. Paige and Kyle had

(34:42):
a great chat. Kyle really cares about his friendship with Paige.
Kyle cares even more like he cares more about his
friendship with Page than he does his friendship with Craig,
which I mean makes sense that it's so funny. He's
all funny to him say it out loud. He also
says like he cares more about a Manda's friendship with
Page more than his friendship with Paige, So in that way,
Page will always win above Craig.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I am glad he understands this.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Thank you, But Craig is coming to the house so
we'll see what happens. And Kyle knows that Craig lies,
and he says that, I mean, Craig got kicked out
of his wedding and he's still lying about that, and
I went, yo, Paige also lying about that.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You're calling him both out the way that comes up
every season since they got married is so funny to be.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Because what was the story? He just got kicked out,
and then Paige and Craig were like, no, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, I think kicked out his very strong verbiage for it.
I think it's just like hey, you should leave, you know,
but like when you're annoyed with kid, yeah you're gonna
say he was kicked out. But when you're on good terms,
you'll just be like, no, we just asked you to leave.
So I don't think it's as psychotic as people, yeah
make it out to be. But I do think it's
so funny because it happened season six technically, because that

(35:58):
wedding was season six. It came up in season seven
because Danielle they.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Like I got into it.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, it was like all spoken about because the press happened.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yes, because Danielle was talking to the press.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, yes, And then it got brought up because uh,
Lindsay got tagged with it, and then Lindsay threw Danielle
under the bus last season about it. Like every season,
like Craig Getty kicked out, this wedding comes up. And
I think it's the funniest shit because he deserves to
be constantly talked about like that.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And here's Kyle the Truther being like Craig is a
big liar, which Craig is a big liar. I wouldn't
be is a big liar. As far as Separd society,
I don't know how that whole quote lie thing happened.
But as far as getting kicked out of a wedding,
Craig would totally lie about that.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Craig, okay, I would also lie about that. Hey, Like
I would not want to be talked about like that,
like every single year, So I'd be like, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I just I that wouldn't it be better if you were?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
No, it's I left on my own regard. I you know,
I was a little drunk, so I chose to leave.
I didn't get kicked out.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Doesn't matter. This is something Craig would totally lie about.
Craig's such a liar, like this dude cannot help. He
sees an opportunity even when it means nothing, and he'll
be like, I'm just gonna lie about it, like he's
just like for fun, agreed, and that's the He's like,
I'll just lie about it. It's no worries. I don't worry.
I don't think he thinks he's lying though. That's half

(37:28):
the problem. I bet he's.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
He chose to leave that wedding and nobody was like, hey,
you're a little too drunk, how about yet get out of it.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
But yeah, the security guard was like, hey, why don't
you leave? And she's like a good talk, good idea.
It was my idea.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I you know what, I think I should leave? He
like says it utter to the security guard. You know
what I chose?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Fuck Greg? All right. So it's eight fifty four pm.
We are at dinner with our crew. Carl orders his
non alcohol lover boy whatever it's fucking called not out Baby.
Jesse makes a joke, oh, because it's like, you know,
five and there's always one person at the end of
the table that's cut. So Jesse makes a joke how

(38:11):
he has to hear because he's how is he gonna
be witty and keep up with Page? And Page is like,
oh wow, now that Lexi's not here, like you're back
at it, which is like a diapodgical thing to say,
so funny, but it's true. Page was like, in a
different timeline, Jesse, we're married, and everyone's like, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I guess because I'm into it. I believe it. I
believe it. I'm literally into anybody with Jesse, but Lexi.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Anyone, Lindsey, Danielle, Sierra, Page, Amanda, the Rock outside like Wes,
Carl Kyle, literally anyone, not out lover boy like Mary
ma I a Emerald and Jesse would get it on.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The camera man like anybody.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
But then Carl is like what about me? And paigees like,
oh I she had Jesse with you and I was like, no,
but thank you. That's so the pan tree. I was like,
get roll the type, give it to me. And I
was literally like, Paige is just saying that to be nice,
because no way you're cheating on Jesse with Carl with
his great dog. No no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
But I'm like, I like, and you know what, that
made me miss the old house that pean tree, like
I love seeing the old houses and fl.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
A really good one. Also, did you notice Paige just
played Mary kill at the table Mary Jesse, fuck Carl
kill Wes.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Oh she didn't even say kill Wes. She already like
he wasn't asking. He was like she strangled at the reunion,
like choked him out killing heaven.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
First, Carl shares that he is not dating yet. He
wanted to come into the summer single, you know, maybe
date learn a lot, heal. But today at the beach, Carl,
oh my god, he thought about how Lindsay was the
last person he had sex with and I don't think
about it.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay, can you imagine because she was in a in
a two piece of swimsuit.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
You look, they're talking about her boobs. She's pregnant as hell,
and he's like, those were the last boobs I touched. No, terrible, Juste.
It was so terrible. Here's my piece of advice. I

(40:29):
understand because I too don't like to just have random
sex roundtown. It's not my vibe. I get it. However,
if you get out of a serious relationship and or engagement,
fuck one random and then never have sex again, especially
when there are rumors about your ex fiance being pregnant

(40:49):
before you roll into the house, Like I would have
just least bank someone in June, right before we come
into the house anyway, or Lie, Lie lying is right?
Be like Craig and Lie, I would have lied so hard.
I would have been like, I totally have had I've
only had sex with one other person like between and

(41:10):
it was just a fla. It was just a one
time thing and now I'm here like and then in
your interview you'd be like, I lied because it's just
so embarrassing. Don't even don't even like.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
The grave like, if you really want to talk about it,
you can half lie to and be like, Lindsay was
the last person I loved that I had sex with, Like,
if you really want to talk about this topic.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
The last person whose name I knew that I had
sex with literally something else, anything else, This was crazy.
And then he's like, I haven't had sex in a year,
and for some reason, this is the part that shocks everyone.
And I was like, no, no, no, no, that makes it's
been a year. That's fine. Don't have sex forever. If
that's what you want, have sex with one other person

(41:53):
before you are faced with your ex. Yeah, who's pregnant, Alicia?
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Just think that he's saying all this in his little
green cloths.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Like after the worst part is for me is that
he thought this while Lindsay's like in a bikini pregnant,
Like that's when it came to him, Like he's just
been like, fucking weird. He couldn't have been like the
first night when he's like, it was weird that I'm
here with my ex and she was the last person
night sex with. No, it's like I saw her in
her bikini at the beach and thought and I was like,

(42:26):
you're talking about her boobs and I was like, yup,
my boobs. Terrible hook up with one other person and
then go on your healing journey. I am so about that.
Get luck anyway. So and no, the last person I
had sex with was not my ex, Thank you so much.
I am a big believer. Find a random and leave

(42:48):
my God. So I was like freaking out, go have sex.
Carl's like it didn't feel emotionally right, and I was like,
doesn't you to literally sex with anyone? Tell us be
like is it awkward? Should we just do a quick
hitting quit it?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Okay, don't do that. We don't need another like wine
glass to the chest moment. But I just feel like
he kind of wants to be a martyr a little
bit too. What he like wants to be like, oh see,
I have it moved on. This meant a lot to me.

(43:23):
I feel like you ended it.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
You can't be them, I know.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
But I think I think like he is holding himself
back from sleeping with somebody else or trying to date
because he was trying to portray the image of and
like someone honestly, but someone also leaning into this of like, no,
I really did love her. It wasn't me trying to
be a bad guy for ending it.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's always felt like that. I see it, and I
get where he would be coming from, and even if
these are his real feelings, like, I get it. But
then you got to take this thought to the great.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, stop speaking this stuff out loud. It's weird to me.
I'm like, why are you talking about this stuff? You
have to lie, you have to take this to the grave.
We don't need to discuss that. The last person you
had Nick in your bed was Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
We don't need to.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Do it to keep imagining pregnant Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Right, Like, we don't actually know if Sierra has like
cooked up with anyone else. It could be West, but
she's not gonna talk about it. No, because all they
asked is like, are you dating?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
And he could be like no, I just I'm not
like there yet to have a serious relationship again.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
You know what's funny, Meredith is today at the beach,
I saw my excellent her baby said, not that's it.
Stop you're giving me so many visuals. Yuck. Okay, So
Page is like, this is crazy because Carl's a priest
and Lindsay's pregnant at a wedlock we don't even know.
And Carl says he's been focusing on himself, healing, getting
rid of any anger and resentment towards Lindsay. But seeing

(44:49):
Lindsay this summer like she moved on to like Carl can't.
That's all valid. Yeah, let's talk about that's a lot
of emotions. Don't bring up your your your sex quest.
It doesn't. We don't.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
We didn't want it last season.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
No, yuck. We don't want anything before that when you're
not even together. How about this, We never want it.
Just tell us about your emotions and leave it. Okay, great, agreed,
So we cheers to Carl getting some pussy. Oh god
great Wes. Uh. They are like, Wes, are you dating?
And he does like a little shoulder shrug and Amanda's like,

(45:25):
he's not dating, he's just fucking girl. Oh my, I
was like a man, you're gonna take him out? And
Paige's like no, no, no. Wes has been like really
busy traveling. He hasn't been fucking anyone, and West is
like Jesus, yeah, okay. So Wes says he hasn't been
on a date in a while, except for West Date, ever,

(45:45):
which I Alicia.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
I immediately thought about you, because, for those who may
not know, I forced Alicia to watch thet I.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Was unemployed at the time. It was the time Meredith
could tell me to do stuff and I would listen
because I was unemployed, and She's like, hey, cover these
dumb shows that Wester is doing. And I did. And
the first episode was the hak Tuah one that they
showed us, and I think, I said Meredith. I was like,
I don't really know who Hawk two is. Besides that
she loves to give a good blowjob. That's all I

(46:13):
know about her.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
And he seve the exact same page and amenda where
I was like, I've never seen the original video. I
don't think I got the original I got people like
circulating it.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Uh, Hawk to a girl and West was the worst
date I've ever seen in my life. I it I
haven't been on a date since because I'm smart. I
have a question for you.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Did you notice the timeline issue here? He said that
his interview was going to be on July twentieth, and
it is July twentieth on this date at least, Bravo
tells us it's July twentieth.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
There's no way his interview's on July twentieth, because that's
a weekend he's contracted into summerhouse. It would have had
to be a week day. I know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I think he got the date wrong or like maybe
it happened on August twentieth. Oh maybe, but oh that
was like circulating and I thought of you because you
are going viral on Instagram about your timeline clocking.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Don't well, listen, I'm not the girl on this that
loves a good timeline. That's you.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
You just when you just noticed in credible.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I have to I have to sit here and write
the times down. If you give me a wrong time,
I'm gonna check in. Problem. Can't lie to me on
the screen. That's crazy, that's crazy. Yes, anyway, so a
man in page. Yeah, they don't know who Hawk Tua is,
but Wes says he has been traveling a lot. He's

(47:41):
been doing all of work. My god, his schedule. I
was like, that's a nightmare situation. He hasn't been focusing
months on his personal shit, Like there hasn't even been
a lot of time to fuck around. But he is
he's most upset because he doesn't recycle anymore, which I
was like, you can still find time to fucking recycle,
Oh my guy, to kill the planet on your on

(48:03):
your Honestly, recycling is not that hard. Also, just don't
own that you are killing the planet now. Just again,
keep put it in the grave, take it away from it.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
This is the things I do actually love about Wes
because like that little monologue about recycling cracked me up
so much, because I'm like, right, I was.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I think he was trying to be funny and it
didn't hit for me.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I think that's why I find it funny. I don't
find him funny. I find those moments so hilarious, Like
the fuck are you talking about yet?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
That was one of those like he's trying to be
funny and he's trying to get a laugh out of
Sierra and it's just a false flat.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
But I love when people are like monologuing about some
random doping.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
It went on so long.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
It wasn't just like he dropped a line and then
we all moved on, like he I wrote that quote
down because I was like, oh, let me put that
in my quote. No, it was like three sentences.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I was so now let's talk about Jesse. He's not
official with Lexi yet. We do acknowledge that Lexi would
be a very jealous girlfriend. And Jesse isn't allowed to
comment on the Hubs girls photos anymore, which Wes didn't know.
He is shocked. He's like, rightfully, so yeah, yeah, Carl goes,

(49:18):
Lexi just really likes you, and Wes is like, no, no,
this is not not the fuck up, shut up, shut
up claws. You haven't had sex in a year. The
fuck up clogs back to your clogged Carl you Jesse
thought he would leave this weekend being exclusive with Lexi.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
And now he doesn't know, and I'm that's diabolical, even
knowing we have an extra week that was a lost week.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Well, Amanda's like, do you want to be exclusive or
do you feel pressured to be exclusive with her? Like
this is the second week, and Jesse said that Lexi
told him he has a month to decide. I think
that's crazy. I think you get well. I don't know
when you live with someone because I don't do that summerhouse,

(50:08):
but I think four dates and then you have to
decide are we going to take this kind of forward
or Okay?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
But in my mind, that's like four weeks, so I
guess that's the eight month.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yes, oh well, maybe maybe she's on the right trip.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I think when four weeks isn't crazy? Him being like
after week two I need to close this down is.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Like insane to me. Yeah, I think after four dates
you can then be like do we want to hear
meeting other people or do we want to be excluded?
Like what's what's your vibe? So I can match? But
I don't think after four dates I would be like,
if you're not exclusive with me, I'm pissed. I think
that's when the conversation needs to happen. Though, is like
four weeks it.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I know I'm not the person for this because my
friend asked me this. My guy friend asked me and
my other girlfriend like, oh when he should ask his
now girlfriend? And this was like a month and a
half half ago.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
And I was like, I'm not your girl.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I am so avoidant, like you talking to me about this.
I'm not even the girl in this situation. I'm having
a panic attack. He was like what I was like,
don't ask me, don't ask me. That's four weeks.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Sounds insane to me. Well, I say this as someone
who makes it to a fourth date and then they
ask me and I go, we should see other people?
Like that's my my heart is like pounding right now
thinking about somebody doing this to me. Well, if you
like that, that's why you know you don't like them.
Maybe that's the hyper avoidant.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I'm like, don't ask me those questions. Let's just be
in the vague great area. I'm a great situationship girl.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Thank god, I'm not. Either you're gonna tell me we're
not exclusive or we are exclusive, but I gotta know
because then if we are going to be exclusive, I
can dump you because I don't want to be exclusive.
It was like, wait a minute, am I hearing that correctly?
You're not gonna situation ship me. I'm just gonna dump you.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I get skittish, Like the minute it seems like commitment,
I'm like, I gotta get out of here.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
No, I get that, but I think I think four
dates is fine.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I agree on for other people, not for me, but
I think, well, four dates you like know if you
like someone or not.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I like LEXI though I don't know what do they
just no, but first you have to fuck and then
you can decide like I have to stand. I agree
with that. I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Where do you fall on should you have met some
of their friends by then before the exclusive talk after it?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I I do want to maybe like and when I
say dates, I mean like four dates just us, Like
I'm down to go out with you and your friends.
That doesn't count as a date. But I do prefer
to meet your friends because I have dated great guys
who have the shittiest of friends, and that's a reflection
on this guy. Agreed, Agreed, So I do want you

(52:55):
to meet my friend. If you friends is the most
important peace. Yeah. Yeah. It's the reason my high school
boyfriend and I broke up. Or one of the main
ones was his friends were so terrible to me that
I was like, this is true, you that's insane. He
did nothing. He was like, they're just doing and I
was like.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I want to make sure, like I'm gonna enjoy hang
out with these people, like we're gonna hang out.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
With them, and you have to fit in with my
friends or else, like what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
That's where I get held up is I don't want
anybody to come into my real world.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I want my friends to rip him Wes thinks that
he had a rough time with Sierra. My friends will
murder you. Murder you, and if you make it out alive,
you can date me.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I worry about people's like banter. My friend group is
like we have a very specific it's like the Jesse thing.
Like I want you to be able to understand how
like just not necessarily exactly how Jesse talks to people,
but I want you to understand, like our bantern, be
able to be involved. I don't want you to be
how Lexy is, where she's like on the sidelines, looking
and being annoyed. How Jesse is bantering with his friend.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
It really doesn't matter though, because we're not dating anyone.
We're just talking about Lexi.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I know, but I don't think they should be exclusive,
like to me, clearly it's too weak now, I you
know what, say you and I know what.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
It's not working for me, so they shouldn't be interested.
You also, though, enjoy like intelligent conversations and like humor.
Lexi doesn't give me that she enjoys intelligence. I talked
about this. There's humor and there's like intelligent human like
you have to hang and I I'm also debating if
like Jesse can really hang in a flirty situation, like

(54:34):
maybe all these other people just have great humor, like
Page Zierra Jesse that he can hang or Page Ziera
Wes that then Jesse created on his own. I don't
know though, right.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Bands here into it. But if if he's given like
a dad weight like Lexi is like he can't, which
I don't mean anybody could. That's my thought though. But
when you're always around.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Wes, he we can tell he just carries like this
great band, this great intelligent humor. He's funny. He's making
his ex in the house laugh Like that's when you
know he's kind of funny. Right, and Sierra can hang
with that too, and Jesse's always around them. But then
he's around Lexi and he's like, I'm gonna make a
wood comment. I'm gonna make a boner joke. And that's

(55:18):
that's like the bottom of the barrel. That's like stoner humor.
You know, that's like funny when you're high.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
But yeah, I mean every week that we talk about
these two, I'm less and I like, I just don't
believe in it.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Well, let's go out. It's eleven oh six PM. Kyle's
round in the troops up in the house with his
big microphone. Everyone's going out except Lindsay, which is understandable.
She's pregnant in case you didn't know. So it's one
thirty two am. We are out. There's this. This is
good humor. A personalized sign comes over that says congrats

(55:51):
Jesse and Lexi and Wes. In his interview, goes, I
had to do it. I love it. I was screaming,
that's a good joke. That's funny, that's hilarious. Oh my god,
as shitty as he is, probably as a boyfriend, I'm
so obsessed with him, Like he is right, I love
him as a guy friend. He's my type. I hate

(56:13):
that he's my type, but he is. I know, this
is my type. If a guy did this to his friend,
I would fall in love immediately that this is so funny.
I would be literally couldn't be breathing next to him,
like slapping his arm, like crying, Wow, this is so funny.
I'd I'd literally be like, I'd be pissed if.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I wasn't in on it, Like I'd want to pose
into hackling as he's ordering the sign and like watching
the thing.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
It surprised me this would be so funny because then
it comes out and he would be like I did that,
and I'd be like, oh my god, that is so good.
That was so good. Anyway, so it's two ten am.
We get home. Paige immediately runs to bed and does
not want to be in Amanda siers TikTok book at
the house, eats bagel, bites kin of some gray goose,

(57:01):
and then I'm like, where's Emerald. Well, at two twenty eight,
Emerald comes back with the n edit edit where we
don't get the person, don't get the girl or boy. Honestly,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I don't very true, very true. You know what, I
don't want to assume if you're in the closet. That's
a great way, uh to have a guest, Just don't
have them sign the form.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
My god Jesus. Well whatever Emerald and whoever his guest is,
they do not want to be on camera, or Emerald
doesn't want them on camera.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I don't understand why he's on this show, Like it's
not making it fine. I want to I want to
see at least give me like the legs of the person,
like just blur her face out.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I like it because it's just someone in the house
is getting some you know, And I'm like, yes, at
least I know. I just at least I see him
cover up the camera. It obviously falls. We hear this
squeak squeak. That was I love it. I absolutely love it.
I just want to see the person walk in. No.
But I mean this is equivalent to like when someone
comes back in the morning, like we don't see it,

(58:04):
but we just know, we know deep in our bones.
So it's two forty four am. This is where Emerald's
covering up the camera. Jesse is spending the night in
Lexi's room again. Amanda is teaching Kyle a TikTok dance. Jh.
I was like, when Amanda's out, she's out, baby sleep Jesse.
It seemed like tries to hook up with Lexi, but

(58:25):
she says no, which is fine. It just we didn't
get like the full interaction text. Yeah, Emerald's getting it,
and Amanda and Kyle are the happiest I've honestly ever
seen them.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Well because he knows where Kyle is at two thirty
in the morning, that's true.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
So it's Sunday, July twenty first, at nine thirty seven am,
Emeralds new guest leaves without Emerald knowing, which is hilarious.
Love Goodbye. Jesse and Lexi make out Lindsay's up. Jesse
says that Lexi is very pretty without makeup, and they
both feel really good about each other. All of their

(59:03):
conversations are so surface level. It's like you look amazing,
and it's like, how do you feel good? Like there's
nothing past that. Yike.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
It's not like, hey, I really enjoy getting to know you.
I think we have like such good conversations, because again
they don't.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
It's that we see surface. No, you're you're so beautiful,
you're so hot. I can't believe I got such a
hot girl next to me. Like it's all surface.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It's very high school, not even I have better.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Combos in high school, Jesus. So Jesse wants to make
sure that they're totally aligned and then they can build
trust from the alignment. For what you guys don't talk
or do anything. And Jesse wouldn't date Lexi if like
he wasn't feeling what he's feeling now, and what he's
feeling is real. I'm like, what are you feeling, and

(59:53):
Jesse isn't going to go out in the world and
embarrass Lexi, but he is a social person. Oh god,
Lexi is like, you know, I could be jealous, and
I was like, these two, oh talking circles. So I
know nothing new from these two. Lexi again, She's like,
so being a model, my entire existence was like picked

(01:00:13):
apart since I was ten. She's like, and I never
looked good enough. And people keep saying Jesse's a boob guy,
Jesse's a boob guy, and I'm like, nobody has and
Jesse goes who and she goes everyone, And that's when
you know no one said it and someone goes everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
I do feel for her being ten years old into president,
Like I'm sure that fucked with her development of like
just constantly being judged for your outward appearances. But no
one has said that Jesse's a boob guy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
In fact, she doesn't know this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
But Jesse inside like two weeks ago, was like talking
to West about how much he loved Lexi's ass.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah, he's an ass dude, which I was like, if
he's a boob guy, sent him my way, I have boobs,
but he's not. He is an ass guy, which okay,
I also want to acknowledge Lexi's struggles are very real. Yes,
the modeling industry is crazy. However, Lexi needs to stop
being like I just don't feel pretty because they don't

(01:01:13):
have boobs. It's like, girl, there are people out here
really struggling with.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
I get it, but also a part of me is like,
you know you're hot, though I don't know when she
talks about it on her own feelings like that she's
experiencing with the world, but she's like putting that together
with like Jesse's what she is making out to be
Jesse's ideas of her, which nobody's vocalizing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
He isn't like the house is in, but she's like
tagging this onto something else. And that's what frustrates me because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
That where she's like, people say you're boobs guy, and
now I feel ugly and it's like no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
No, She's like, I'm insecure because I was judged since
I was ten years old and I have no billits
and you're a boob guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
And it's like none of that happened and connect that, yeah,
and like you know you know you're hot. You can't
not think you're hot girl, Come on, come on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I like body dysmorphia. Everybody has different stuff, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I get being insecure, but like it, this isn't clicking
for me because the stuff like hasn't actually happened or
we haven't seen it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I also think Lexi just hasn't given us much depth
in herself, like right, She's never said, like at these
casting calls, like people would pick me apart in this
way or that way, just people would pick me apart
and tell me I'm not gonna get jobs because I
don't have boobs. Yeah, and it's like okay, but you
also like made a good live. It's the same thing

(01:02:37):
when she's like people would bully me in high school
because I was a model, and it's like no being
bullied like real, but you're because it is like not
clicking America. I think it would a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Different if she was like sitting with the girls outside
chatting about you know, like body image and how they
all struggle with it. I think it's the context that
it's constantly put in because she's either just talking crazy
in interview chair about it and it's just not landing,
or with Jesse and things that like haven't happened, at
least an our viewpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
There's something so like it's disconnecting from and I can't
explain it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
That coupled with like the lack of personality and depth
and interesting conversations, is just heightening the annoyance of like,
oh my god, I'm bullied because I'm just so pretty
and that is like so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I know she's not saying that, but that is how
it's landing. I know she was probably bullied, but it's
landing crazy because like I was actually, I mean, we
all have been bullied, right, but I was bullied straight
up for like being annoying, which like hits so much
harder than like being which I am. I get it
and now as an adult, but at like twelve, you're

(01:03:48):
like damn okay, but like you're sitting here being like
I was bullied for like a good reason, like that'd
be meaning like I was bullied because I was too kind.
I was I was I had too much money. People
made fun of me. I was super And that's what
it's giving, is rich kid, That's like everyone hates me
because you know what it's giving. It's giving.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Will Over on Southern hospitality being like I was othered
because I was on a reality TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yeah, everyone hates me because I'm successful and beautiful and amazing,
and it's like I get that, but also stop, like
because those fuck people are really out here being made
fun of for some real shit. Yeah right, it just hid. Yes, yes,
And I think my other thing is And this is
the less I'll say about it as an adult. Right,
we can talk about this. Right In high school, we

(01:04:34):
were all bullied for something and it hurt and it
created who we were today. But it feels like Lexi
is still like sitting on this, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
It feels like it's talked about a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, and I'm like, where what else is happening? Though?
What's happened in your adult life? What can you give me?
What have you learned? Have you grown?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
It is also the editor's choice, the true, but I
think the editors are setting her up for failure if
she is talking about other things, because they're not g
having us anything to latch onto it. Besides, I was
bullied because I was pretty, so like, if it's either
she is this way and that sucks, or she's like
kind of this way. Twenty five percent of the time,

(01:05:11):
and that's the only thing the editors are honing in on,
and that's ruining the show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
It's it's just terrible. There's something terrible about it. There's
something so terrible about it. So it's ten oh seven am.
The house is starting to wake up. Jesse gets back
in his own room and let's one rip. I thank
god he's away from that one all night. I know
the worst. So it's ten twenty five am. Amanda ordered
a bunch of random food for breakfast. You got steakcased

(01:05:39):
deals and burritos and sour cream.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
It looks like this is the second Uber Eats ad
that they've had mid episode.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
They love an Uber Eat sad and they love you know,
the chairs they brought to the beach. Oh Hage posted
let me know if you want to just count and
I was like, I remember them being like, oh, you
can carry this because it goes around your back. I
just thought that was banter. I didn't know that was
an ad really good. But when they zoomed in on
that Uber Eats receipt, I was like, shut the fuck up.

(01:06:08):
And they had the bags last time the Uber Eats.
I'm like, you're doing it a little too hard. We're
all gonna We're all already using Uber eats. You don't
need to show us twelve times an episode. I'm a
door dash curly sorry, get him. I have no loyalties anywhere.
So wherever I want to eat and what's cheapest, that's
where I'm going. That's a good point. So it we
go out for pool time, Wes is like, it really

(01:06:31):
fills my heart when we all go out, and I
was like, no, saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I felt for you, Alisha, I was like, you know what,
that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
We needed that. I'm in love with West again. I
forgot why I hated him. I remember, but I also
forgot again. We like friend West. Yeah, no, I'm in
love with him. You keep saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
No, No, I know, I know, I know, but like
as like his stuff with Sierra, Like rightfully, we will
rag on him for that earlier in the season, but
like I think he's always been a solid friend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
But I can't doubt that if he asked me out today,
I would say no, I might have to just fall
in love with him. I need for me, I need
to share the mustache. I might I might take him
with it, Like I think I'm being a sim No,
I don't know. This is danger because he's we don't
give any kind of respect to these men, and here
I am just like, but I think I'm up to

(01:07:20):
take your foot off their necks? Oh my god, what's happening?
I know he lulls us in he did all last season.
Why I think he's my type? No? No, my type
is his personality. I agree? I agree? Anyway, Okay, so bad.
Don't cut this for Instagram. I can't. People can't know

(01:07:41):
this anyway. Where's m Rol? We don't know. But everyone
talks about how he was making out with this girl
at the club, and Carl's like, I couldn't even imagine that,
And I was like, obviously because you're in the priesthood.
But well, I could not do any of that. Sober.
Oh that's kind of girls sober? Can you imagine crazy?

(01:08:11):
That's up there with going to the club and making
out in front of your parents. That's sober and in
front of parents are too, No, which would you rather
in front of your parents or sober at a club?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I kind of think in front of my parents because
at least I'm drunk and I can maybe forget about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
You can blame it on the alcohol and be like
I just and maybe your parents are also drunk, and
you could just be like it didn't have you gas
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Sober, you remember, I would, I would remember every moment
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
You know. The worst is when you're like sober making
out with someone random, which you know I don't, or
when you're not drunk enough. I've had that happen where
I think I'm drunk enough and then I'm not, and
then all I'm doing is thinking about how like I take.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Out someone, and then you're like, how do I stop this?
And how do I get away from here?

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Like I just want a fuzzy like I I want
to even not know I'm kissing you. Let's make that
because I know I this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
I mean, this used to be a big thing, at
least when I was in college of just making out
with raindows in the bar. Yeah, I can't do that
as an adult when I'm drunk. No, that's crazy, let
alone sober. The thing is, I don't want to do
it like in front of people. I'm kind of at
the age now where I don't need other people seeing it. Yeah,
I'm not going to be like in the middle of

(01:09:29):
the bar making out with someone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Like, my friends don't have to be like we watched
you make out. You don't have to watch me do anything.
That's cool, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
We don't have to know each other like that, you know, yeah,
like you can maybe kiss me for a second, but
like we're not sitting here making out having people watch
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
We are forever all this. This is Emerald just lives
in his own truth and I respect that, and I
wish i'd.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Go off King, but I'm stressing out about doing it myself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
You know that vander Pump quote where it's like Kristen
is unburned by these by the shame emeralds on burdened
by the shame. I'm not. I wish I could be,
and I'm just not. That's so true. What's the call.
It's not shame, but like Kristin is, it's like the
shackles of something. But you know what I'm saying, I
am so so much respect King. It's not me. It

(01:10:20):
can't be shame. I have shame, and I I know
I know what's coming for me in the morning. Maybe
that's it too. Emerald doesn't know that this is coming
because he walks right out and everyone's like, oh, here's
the makeout King and he's like, oh my god, call
him my orgbs orgybst. You just disgusting that, Meredith. That
will never be said on this podcast again. Cut it

(01:10:41):
out anyway, disgusting makeout King is so much more PG
and that's this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
We're family friendly, Mary, We're sober Carl not making out
in bars, and we're not Emerald making out me are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Well, you can listen to us with the whole family.
You cannot friend. We are not out friendly, but we
are thirty year old friendly. We are. That's disgusting. So
Emerald has a reputation to keep, you know, so he
has to make out with randoms at the bar and
that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I mean, listen, he is entertaining. You're right, I am back.
I'm back on Emerald.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
So they're like, hey, is your girl gone? And he's like,
is she? I didn't walk around, I didn't hear. He
literally does this whole like I didn't see her around
the house. In his book, I was cracking up. Anyway. Kyle,
then the producer that he is, is like, hey, Emeral,
this would be a really good time to share more
about you and your view on relationship. Like he's being

(01:11:35):
interviewed and Emerald's like, yeah, right, So Emerald used to
be a relationship guy. He was actually an I legal
immigrant until he was twenty three, which we learned.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
He came here when he was five, so like that
is a very like that's a long time to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Eighteen years, Yeah, living undocumented. Yeah, So he got married
to his first girlfriend and that's how he got his papers,
and he makes it clear that him and his girlfriend
like thought eventually they would get married, so they just
expedited the process and he was monogamous through their entire relationship. However,

(01:12:09):
by the end, both him and his girlfriend slash wife
felt like they were being forced into this relationship, So
I think that's what ultimately ended it. But Emerald still
believes in love. He believes that you can find someone
who makes you happy, or at least like the idea
that that's possible. He just knows he won't settle for

(01:12:30):
anything less than that in the introm so he's not
even going to attempt to settle for less. He's learned
not to let other people's or yeah, expectations dictate how
you live your life. And until he meets someone who
can change his viewpoint on what he believes now in relationships,
he doesn't think he can be monogamous, and I think

(01:12:53):
that's self aware. Open up front, let me know which.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
What I love about is something he said when like,
I think it was the last episode where he's like
just so honest about it in upfront. That's the key piece.
I think a lot of people probably have a similar
viewpoint as Emerle, where I don't want to be monogamous
unless I'm with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Like the one. Yeah, that's fine as long as you
say it up front. Yeah, let us know. Page though,
then is like, wow, we've never listened to someone so
intently before, and Jesse's like he got two chicks in
one weekend. I got to listen to what the guy says,
and then we get you know, Alexi's sour face. It

(01:13:32):
was the editors, I'm sure, but yeah, thank you for sharing, Emerald.
So now it's eleven fifty eight am. Time for everyone
to shower, get ready to leave. Jesse goes to find
Sierra Well, he was going to look for pages bags
and he missed it and went to Sierram Page. He
walked right past her designer luggage, and so Jesse talks

(01:13:54):
to Sierra about his chat with Lexi and this is
as Lexi's like coming up the stairs. Was oh, Lexi
does just go into like Jesse and West room, which
Wes is there, and he's like hey and Jesse or
Lexi just sits in Jesse's bed and like waits for him.
I don't know, smells his sheets. I don't really know

(01:14:16):
what she's doing. But j West is out. He's like, goodbye,
pack my ship. Leave anyway, Sierra tells Jesse, like, just
make Lexi feel special, and Jesse tells Sierra about the
boob guy comment and how he likes Sierra and Amanda's
boobs and like how that was started. Lexi came up

(01:14:39):
with this rumor or something, and Jesse says like, hey,
he was obsessed with Paige and she doesn't have boobs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, Like that's that's as clear indicatorce He's not a
boob or a buff guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
He just loves women. I was like, thank god he
didn't say that Lexi might have killed Paige. I I
thought that too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
And especially let's say that Jesse and Lexier in a
relationship right now with Page being single in him saying
like he's still obsessed with her. I am kind of
I am kind of shipping off Jesse and Page.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
And more so I kind of just want them to
have a hook up. I just need them to, like
see if something's there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I want to see what they're like single in the
house together.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Yeah, I want to know if there's any natural flirting.
I want to know if Jesse's better at flirting maybe
with Paige because Page is more humor intellect and they
have like the friendship foundation. Yeah, but I need to
know if they're sparks too, Like I gotta know, and
will Jesse step up to the plate because we know
Page requires a lot. I mean, Andrea was bringing her

(01:15:46):
coffee every morning in bed, like I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
And we saw not effort with like Carl, like he
wouldn't even talk to her during the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Week where it was so we'll see. So and Page
isn't jealous, but she's not gonna deal with you like
flirting with girls who aren't her friends. That's it's not
gonna fly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Yeah, but I think Paige understands it more than Lexi does.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Oh yeah, he comments like about how Amanda is so beautiful,
she's gonna be like, as you should do it more
the next time. So Sierra tells us right, she's never
thought of Jesse in like that way, but she loves
how much they can giggle together, and she loves stupid boys.

(01:16:26):
That's her type. And I was like, that's she She
just defined my type.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I love stupid boys where our own is giggling though,
was so fun and I feel it. But I understand
what she's saying, like they're just friends.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
They just have a really really good connection. Yeah, but
they're so it's cute and I'm not it's cute and
like I know, Sierra no offense to Jesse, but Wes
is I think just like as a as a flirter
and has like an intellect and in humor. I would
put Wes above Jesse. So like Sierra can't go down.

(01:17:02):
She's already flirted off top notch, you know. So, but
it is fun how they can like giggle together. Watching them,
it makes me want to kick my little feet. I'm
like cew together. So it's time to leave. LEXI won't
be here next weekend. I'm not married. I can we

(01:17:24):
can see if Jesse actually has any intellect to him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
This is where the problems are gonna be like we
know it, Like something's gonna happen. People are gonna report
back to Lexi.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Jesse's gonna post a picture with a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Yeah, and then in like two to three episodes, we're
gonna get that dinner where Lexi's like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I don't trust her. Well, Emerald also drops his keys.
Did you see that? And I was like, did he
go back for his keys? Oh my god, he dropped
his keys. I went back and looked twice because I
was like that that brings me anxiety. He didn't turn
around and get his keys? Did he know? Did he leave?
We didn't get a follow up in the city. I'm dying.
Someone tell me about his keys anyway, and they drive

(01:18:00):
away with the trunk open in one of the cars.
Oh my god, and like there's a laptop in there.
Just a mess. So let's go to New York City.
It is Tuesday. Page and Craig go out to an
Australian restaurant and they talk about gross things that they've eaten,
and Craig asked if Page has ever eaten a squirrel?

(01:18:22):
And I have probably talked about this before, but I
have a squirrel story. Oh god, I have a squirrel story.
I was dating this guy in college and he really
he was local and my college was in butt Fuck, Illinois,
and so he was from there, and he really wanted
me to meet his family. And he's like, come with this, yep,
come with my family hunting. And I was like, I
don't hunt. Me a city suburb girl, like I don't

(01:18:45):
do that. I don't hunt, and he's like, it'll be fun.
We're like just hunting like little animals. And I was
like like what, and he goes, we're hunting squirrels. And
then I said again, city suburb girl. I said, what
do you do with the squirrels? And he goes, CAUZ,
what you do with the squirrels? And he says, we
eat them, and he looked at me like I was crazy,

(01:19:06):
and I went, you eat the squirrel.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I do know if you're gonna hunt for something, you're
gonna eat the meat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
But that's crazy. That how I literally sat there and
he he looked at me like I was nuts, Like
I'm crazy, I've never eaten squirrel.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
I just maybe I imagine the work of like I
don't know what it's called when you like process an animal,
but like squirrels are tiny, Like that's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
To skin the animal and then take out all right,
So I just want to say I did and for
those of you curious, we I did not go because
I don't hunt and I definitely don't eat squirrel. Yeah.
I'm sure it's a delicacy somewhere and I'm offending some
sort of people not in but fuck Illinois, I'm not
eating squirrel. Get that straight. I just so thank you.

(01:19:58):
If I go to a country where it's delicacy, I
will try it not but fuck Illinois. I can tell
you that much. So he did not go gross. I
did not go. I did not eat the squirrel, and
we did break up, just so everyone. I did not
meet his family at all. No, he this was also

(01:20:21):
before he did this, and then he was like, yeah,
once we graduate, you'll obviously come live on my farm
with me, and I went, so this is where we
don't have to eat squirrel all the time. This was
you have a whole farm and you're eating squirrels. We
could kill a cow and you're eating squirrel. It was
crazy anyway. I also just is like a fun fact,

(01:20:42):
what's what's the grossest food you've ever eaten or not grossest,
because that's rude to say, what's the craziest thing? No,
what's the most unique, unique thing you've ever eaten? I
would say rabbit? Oh, how was that? Did you eat it?
I eat it in Florence? Okay, maybe I can only

(01:21:06):
speak within the confound is that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Like a food mark, you know, like it was like
one of those things all jumps and I don't really
remember it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Oh, I ate gator in New Orleans that it tastes
like a like a salty bratwarst. Honestly, yeah, it was
just like extra salt and greasy, but it was fine.
I've never eaten kangaroo.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
No, but I would if I was at this Australian restaurant,
I think I would order it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
I think if I was in Australia, I would an
Australian restaurant in New York, like, where's the kangaroo imported from?
You know? It's like, yeah, it's like when you eat
sushi in Kansas, You're like, where are you? Where did
the sushi come from? Where's this fish from? How old?
Where's the fish come? So? But fine, anyway, So Craig

(01:21:50):
also gets a cappuccino and Page listen, Meredith and I
are well rounded in Italian culture. Page says, it's actually
frowned upon to get a cappuccino after breakfast time in Italy,
and if he was really Italian, Creig would know that.
And Craig says, I'm Dutch. I went dumb him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Dumb him now, fully true because I've been in many
Italian coffee shops with Italians in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
And they ordered cappuccinos. Maybe not, I don't know what
we know. My brother would get a dirty look when
he would try to order a cappuccino. But we let
my brother do it. He it was Neemary. We leave
him alone. He was out of his element. His autism
was flaring up that week. Okay, he needed a cappuccino.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yeah, because like my uncle, like bar whenever I studying
abroad in this like tiny town, was a cafe in
the morning, in a bar in the afternoon, and people
wouldn't really drink till like three. So like people are
eating coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
You can get other coffee, just can't get a cappuccinino. Yeah,
I don't know what I was ordering. You can't get
a cappuccino. It's frowned upon. Okay, So then we asked
the question. I feel like we're on the same date
as Craig and Page because we're just answering thins as well.
If you decided you were going to do one thing
and your mom and dad called you and said, no, dude,

(01:23:06):
do this other thing, would you listen to them?

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
I would listen to them. I just don't think they
would call me though, and give their opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
You think you if you were like, I'm going to
quit my job and go on a twelve month backpacking
trip and your parents were they would be like, maybe don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
They would just be like, tell me more. I guess
they want to give My parents don't give their opinion
too much. Oh my dad, I think, is like I
think his parents must have always given their opinion, and
he doesn't really like that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
My parents give me their opinion. I will say they're
not always right, but nine times out of ten. I mean,
my dad told me at fifteen that I should become
an accountant, and I said, absolutely not, and look what
I'm doing with my life. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Actually, there are a few things my dad has said.
My dad was like, do not go to a small
school you will not be able to handle it. And
I'm like yeah, and I didn't go to a small
yeah yeah, stuff like that. But like, for example, when
I told them I was like, hey, I got a
job in New York. I'm gonna move there, they were
like are you sure? And I was like it's already
done though, like sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I think, like these like big life decisions. When I
was like in my formative years of high school, they
would give their opinion more. But now I'm just like, oh,
I'm going to Europe for three months. They'd be like, okay, yeah,
I think my parents.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
If my parents had said you you won't make it
in New York, like I would maybe take that with
a grain AsSalt. They were more like, are you sure
this is a smart financial decision. I was like, no, no,
wan to do it. I never claimed to that. I
just said I'm going to do it. Craig says that
he he well, he first goes I'm thirty six years old,
which I was like, also that, what are my parents

(01:24:52):
going to tell me? I think I'm in the middle
of these two okay, because PAGE was like, I'm in
my thirty one years of being alive, my mom has
never been wrong once, Like why would she be wrong
once I'm married with kids? That's crazy. And then Craig
was like, well, I'm here to give my opinion, and
pagees like, yeah, but my mom has a different opinion.

(01:25:12):
Page is and this is just not me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Page is the type to go to her mom to
ask all of the questions in life she has and
Craig wants to be that person.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Well, Craig wants to figure it out in a partnership. Yeah,
he doesn't want. I think it depends, right, It depends
who your parents are. It depends the relationship you have
with them. Like, yeah, would I go to my mom
for questions? Sure, But my mom was bathing me in
cabbage because she heard that that helps baby sleep better

(01:25:42):
because I wouldn't sleep. So like, I'm also not the first.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Child always has the most random shit. My parents used
to use like distilled water, They used to boil all
the water for my sister's like bottles.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
They put me in a tub with lettuce because they
thought that would calm me down because that was a
difficult kid. And so yeah, I'm not if my baby's
not sleeping, I'm not going to be like mom help.
Can I know what she did and it probably didn't work.
But if I was like, hey, what's the best course
of action for like private first public school, or like,
what's your opinion on this, like they've done it, so

(01:26:15):
maybe I agree. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
I think there are things where getting your parents input
is valuable, but I think Paige would choose her mom's
input over her partners.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
I agree. I also think, like, if you have a
really overbearing parent, you need to be I like, you
need to acknowledge that because there's also horror stories of
parents who like get too involved with the grandkids. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Like, I think my sister's that way where she would
call my parents and want their advice more than talking
about with her husband, and that does bother her husband.
But my mom is in like overbearing where she wants.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
To be involved my sister, I'm just like, call your husband.
My Mom's like, and why am I discussing? I'm drunk
and I already raised three kids. Give my number, literally,
I have my one in my hand. Why are you
here talking to me about kids? Bros? That would be me.
I'd be like why. Mom would just be like, this
is what I did, and my favorite thing to do

(01:27:10):
is this is just my opinion and I'm not an
expert because xy like, I'll be like, I've never been married,
but if you're gonna ask me my opinion on your wedding,
my problem is I just flat out give my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Then I'm like, you know what, I should add that disclaimer?

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
I'm like, why would you send your kids? And then
I'm like, you know what, this is how I grew
up and that's all. Like if someone's like, oh, should
I break up with my boyfriend after this, I was like, yes,
here I am. I don't know anything, but my opinion
is and I'll give it, but I'll put the little
asterisk of like, I'm never an expert. I'm never an
expert in the subject with your kids, but this is

(01:27:44):
what I think you should do with your kids.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
If somebody asked me a question, I'm gonna give my
gut reaction every time. If you're asking me to if
you should break up with your boyfriend, it's always a
yes because if you're asking clearly, there's a reason you
want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Anyway, back to this date at the Australian Restaurant, speaking
about boyfriends, Paige, God, did I feel seen in this
this scene, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, right now,
Page feels kind of guilty for her decisions because they
affect her parents. So like Lindsay announced her pregnancy and
Paige's initial reaction was like, thank God, it's not me.

(01:28:17):
But then she was like, wait, my parents really want
to be grandparents and I have I used to say before,
I was like, my life is my own. I would
say I only want to have kids because I think
my parents would be great grandparents.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Yeah, which is a question worth it. Yeah, do you
think your sister had kids you would feel less of that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Yes. The problem is I'm the oldest, so like it.
It really has fallen on my.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Our lives are different because my sister had kids very
young and she's older, so like, I never felt that
pressure because they're there, they got that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Oh I feel all of it all the time. It's
like a full burden constantly. And the chances of my
brother having kids as well, he's more on my life path. Yeah,
so like it. Really. The thing is, though I've made
it very clear I'm not having kids, and I think
my sister has now taken that burden. But she wants
the kids, but she's now taking a timely burden of Yeah,

(01:29:11):
now you're biological clock girl, you figure that out. I'm
not not my problem in about but I felt that.
And Paige even says, like she can't find two weeks
to freeze her eggs, which that's a long fucking process
freezing your egg so like you need time, And Craig
says that's a bummer because they're both so busy and
it feels like they're they live this single life and

(01:29:31):
he doesn't want them to do events apart forever, and
he wants them to like make sure that as they
get busier, they continue to make this relationship a priority.
And Paige says she doesn't feel like this relationship has
fallen to the wayside, and Craig says he doesn't either,
but like this is a health check that they need
to do on their relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Which I get that because she hasn't started her tour
at this point. So I appreciate when people are like, hey,
I see what's coming down the pipeline, Like let's just
be proactive about our relationship. So I think it's good
that they're having this talk, and they are in this
conversation they say, like life has changed a lot since
we first got together. There have been a lot of
factors that have changed here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
So Craig says, they're just so much busier now and
that's awesome, and Page like, do you really actually think
that though, And Craig just thinks it's a bummer that,
like they can't do stuff, you know that like quote,
normal couples do the ones they have more time that
aren't in the public eye, like whose careers aren't traveling content?
Or does they both travel a lot?

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
And then they don't live in the same cities, so
when they do have their off days, they have to
make a choice to travel again to go see their partner.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Yeah, and then it's like the person traveling doesn't get
an off day because you're still kind of not in
your zone. And Page is like, yeah, but like my
career took a different turn and I can't travel as
much as I used to. And this is where I
because I never want to fully blame Craiger Page, but
it's always this question of like why doesn't Paige go

(01:31:04):
to Charleston more and why when will Page move to Charleston?
And I get it, but there's something missing in their
conversations that I did not pick up on or maybe
has never been published of Like, why is that always
the the factor? You know? I Craig's sitting here and
he's like, I've had to come to New York a
lot more, and I'm like, but why is that the problem? Well,

(01:31:24):
I'm always like, so, like, she has done that a lot.
She did did a lot of the traveling, and it's okay.
I think what's hard is that when you get into
a relationship, or at least when these two got into
a relationship, there was a status quo that was defined,
and Paige went to Charleston more than Craig went to
New York, except for I think in the summers, Like

(01:31:44):
he obviously knew he was coming to New York more
because of her filming schedule. But when things change, people tend.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
To have a problem because they got into a specific
relationship they liked it, and so it's really hard to
change that status quo. And it seems like Craig is
kind of down for it because he still wants to
be dating page, but he is a little bit resentful
for I don't want to call it to beat and switch,
because I don't think it's that. But the switch change
that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Yeah, so you think it's more of the change because
it was always the beginning of the relationship was always
like Paige has to go to Charleston. Page is going
to Charleston, and Craig, like you said, would come up
in the summer, but Paige was doing a majority of
the traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
I think you think it's a conversation that now traveling
was more intentional because we've talked about this, like he
always would go to New York for his reunion, his
watch Rappin's life, like his what happened for business reasons,
so they knew he would.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Come up kind of eventually. So then I think her
travel to Charleston is more planning around the rest of
their schedules, okay, being like, okay, we do have this
space open to be in Charleston. Okay, that's fair, that's fair.
I just there's a part of the conversation missing for me,
you know that. I'm like, I just I just need
to know why.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
I don't like when other people outside of it are like,
why isn't she there more? I understand if Craig's like, hey,
you haven't come here in a long time, because that's
their schedule to work out, and it's for Page to say,
I can't make it, you need to come up here more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah, I don't like that. It's just always supposed to
be that Page is supposed to do things and yeah,
on any topic, like there's constantly topics and it's Page's
job to do things. And that continues in this conversation
that they're having that so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Page says she's much busier, so Craig has had to
come to her more often, and she says that Craig
is a priority, but Page needs Craig to be a
little bit okay, that there's going to be weeks when
Page is not able to come down and chilling Craig's backyard,
which that that alone died laughing, and Craig says he
was just being honest that if Page is this busy

(01:33:50):
for the rest of their lives, he can't see this
relationship working out. And that's when Page, like I think,
tries to light in the mood and be like, are
you bringing up with me? And I'm an Australian restaurant
And Craig he knows Paige will choose work right now,
but if they have kids, they can't choose work all
the time, and pages like it just feels like the

(01:34:10):
more successful, like I get, it becomes this bad thing
and like I don't want to feel guilty for that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Which let me correct you a little bit, because he
didn't say we can't choose work. He said you can't
choose work.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
I thought I said they. I thought I listen he
kept saying like wee's wee'z weeeze.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
And then when it was like when we have kids,
you can't work all the time, or you're going to
need to be more present.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
I thought I caught him saying they. The only reason I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Know it is because I think I think it was
Queen's by Bravo or Queen whatever. That page is posted
the like transcript, and I was like, oh wow, it's
like when you see it written in black and white.
And I don't think Craig is like purposely trying to
like push page down, but I think that's the like
embedded like patriarchy that we're constantly up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Craig is really busy too, But the only problem that
relationship is technically having by his standards, is that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Page is now too busy. It's not how busy he is.
It's that Page is busy and can't come to him.
I also think, like, like, let's just be really honest, right,
the types of work therein is very different. Craig owns
home furnishing stores and is on a show that films
in his hometown, and he can just go about his

(01:35:30):
day and still get his show done, right, So, like
he does hire employees for his stores and like, so
if he had to take a step back, I think
it'd be easier for him. Whereas Paige, she films this podcast,
so she needs to she has to be she has
to be the one doing that, she has to be
the one going on tour, right, and then what was

(01:35:52):
her show is also she needs to drop her life
and go somewhere else. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
So it's like and Craig's not be there all the time.
It's that's not the intent of it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yes, So I get what both of them are saying,
But I do think I don't think Craig meant it
as like you'll have to stop working because I'm going
to continue. I think it's just easier for Craig to
take a step back from his job or do his
job while having a kid. Which is fair, but like
then pay, you're asking Page to then give up part
of her career. And I don't think in like a

(01:36:25):
terrible misogynistic way, but like that's ultimately what this is.
She would have to give up more than Craig would
if they have a kid. Yeah, it's not to mention
if they it doesn't even matter where they live, right
even in New York, she would have to give up
some of her job, but especially if they live in Charleston.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Because like, look Avery celebrities, like they're able to make
it work. I think Craig sits in that ideal southern
type of living where he wants Page at home with
their kids.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Like, yes, she can have a job, but like he
wants they go to their nine to five's and come
back and then.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Like the type of vibe and it's it was really
interesting to watch this because I see my parents in
Page and Craig like, my mom is this boss asked woman.
And I think had she not been born in the
range that she was, were like kind of having kids
so young was kind of thrust upon in all and
I don't think my mom would have chosen the life

(01:37:20):
she ended up having. And like that's it's like wild
to see them talk about this stuff because my dad's
a lawyer like Craig, an actual practicing one. Well, my
mom is like the boss asked bitch that. I'm sure
my dad always like wanted her home more and wanted
all these things because she was a woman, And it's
just that society they grew up in. And so it's

(01:37:40):
kind of been a little healing for me too, because
I missed a lot of time with my mom. My
mom was working more than my dad. Like my dad
did take a more feminine role in our household. I
don't think Craig wants that, but that's what my dad did.
And they had a lot of problems with my parents.
But like, it is wild to see kind of the
relationship have this inflection point that I'm sure my parents

(01:38:03):
did but never spoke about.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
That's interesting because then do you think, like in my household,
both my parents worked. My mom just worked in school
so she was able to make it home more so
then she would, you know, we would spend more time
with her and she would get summers off. But it's
weird because I never felt like I missed out on
time with my dad.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
That's something I have, I like work through it, weep.
He is the expectation I have of my mom to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Be there more than my dad. Do we think that
that's just because everyone's mom was home. And that's the
thing I think.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
I hear other people's experiences with their parents and it's
just very different from mine.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
So like my dad. Interesting, we always praise dads when
they show up to a normal amount for being so
such an amazing dad, but like we never give women
the praise of being a mom to any of that levels.
That's crazy. I never felt like, oh, I'm missing out
on something with my dad. Yeah, because you would.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
I never would saw my dad's time spent and my
dad worked a.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Lot too, So like saying, but I always think of
my mom being.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
The one missing, not my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Oh my god, that's so interesting that I don't. I
had the reverse, and I don't feel like I missed
out on any time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
I will say it's a societal norm though, Like women
tend to take up more of the household work. Yeah,
and it's kind of just like what happens. There's this
invisible work that women like take the bulk of it,
and so when a man steps in to do it.
It is very noticeable because they talk about it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
Wow, that's crazy, I will say though. In my household, though,
if my dad could have been a stay at home dad,
he gladly would have done that. He obsessed with that.
He would get home from work, and my mom also
like works for herself, so she would then clock out,
almost would work, and he would be the one that
would have to like help us with our homework, can
take us to sports and like whatever else. Yeah, because

(01:40:02):
my mom's like, now I have to do my job.
Like I I only worked. I worked less than eight
hours and I kept the house running, and now I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Had like I took a pause to then like focus
on our family.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
And yeah, I cooked the dinner and you have to
do the dishes and everything. So weird. Oh my god,
I know this isn't that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
I mean, my parents didn't have like an issue because
they lived in the same city too. I think it
just gets exasperated because they did their normal jobs. They're
on team shows and they don't live in the same city.
So I just I want those people who are like
putting pressure on page to realize like how massive this
is compared to a normal version. My parents were the
normal version, and you can make it work. But Craig

(01:40:43):
later says, he's like in a submissive relationship. Well, yeah,
diabolical because you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Let's let's get there. So yeah, craigtails Page like don't
slow down now, and pages like but if I said
let's have a baby tomorrow, like you would be down too,
slow down, like you can't I know him to slow
down though, Let's be honest. That's it. Yeah, Craig is
telling her not to slow down, but like he she knows,
we all know that he's internalizing something else.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
He's giving mixed messages though, because he's like, no, I
love what you're doing, and I do think he does.
But if she said let's have a baby, he that's
what he really does want.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
The other thing is Page says, I don't ever want
to live a slow life, and Craig says, I want
to lie slow life. And that's why I went right there,
right right there. The relationship ended right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
There, right Yes, I got so much clarity in their breakup.
I already knew, we had already seen glimmers of why
they just would not work out. But that alone doesn't work.
That hasn't incompatible, it's right there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Yeah, So Craig just says he never thought he would
be in such a submissive relationship, and then Page goes,
should I apologize for being strong and independent? And Craig's like,
I just realize I would give up so much decision making.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
And I was like, well, yeah, this is a like
Gray's anatomy quote, like Christina Yang at one point says
to Meredith Gray, like, he's not the son you are. Like,
Craig is mad because Page is the center of the
universe right now. He thought he was going to be
the center and her life decisions would be made around
his life in their family, and that's not what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
I also think when they started dating, right, Giggly Squad
wasn't as big, she wasn't touring, He had his pillow shop,
he had been on TV a lot longer. He's quote
a lawyer, unquote you know, but he could also do that.
So when they started dating, he was the son I
think he was. Now they were like almost now both sons,

(01:42:47):
and neither one is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Going to I think it's more obvious to him that
she is a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Her success her success really Yeah, and like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
She is clearly on the up and up, like he
is kind of plateauing too true.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Yeah, because like I don't really care that he's opening
another sewing down South, like he has one that was
kind of a thing. We lived it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Yeah, I've been to Nashville many times since he has
opened that night, it has not ever crossed my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Together I went to Charleston.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
I would go to the one in Charleston because it
like feels the vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
What's Nashville really, what the fuck is Nashville? Anyway, that's
where we end it at that moment. They want different things,
they're going to break up. There was no question in
my mind that I'm there, not shocked it took so
long because it was like November when they broke up.
This is July like twenty something. Because this alone, if

(01:43:38):
I so, let me tell you, I knew. I have
like known when me and people I'm dating aren't compatible.
There was one guy in particular that I said, like, oh,
I really can't wait to like graduate college and then
move to like the city and like explore, And he said, well,
I really want to move to the suburbs and start
a family. And I went to college graduation. Well, a

(01:44:01):
lot of people I, you know, in from my hometown,
like didn't move to the city. They just did move
in with their person. And like I think COVID, I
just COVID. COVID slowed it down a little bit. But
like a lot of people would graduate college, go back
to their parents for a few years, save some money,
and then move into a suburban household with their partner

(01:44:25):
and then have babies. You know, like that was projectory. Yeah,
And I was like, I don't want that. I would
want to live in Chicago. I might even want to
live somewhere else. And he was like, no, but what
about like our family? And that's when I literally when
I went, We're going to break it. Doun, We're not.
We'll never make it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Did you wait till like the end of the semester,
because I'm wondering if Page is holding on to not.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Do this in season. I waited just to see because
part of me was like, maybe no one's planted this
idea before, because it was the norm, like don't make
a national decision for one conversation. Well, I was like,
maybe now that I've put that in his mind, it'll
he'll grow on it and be like, maybe I do
want to live in the city. Like you know, when

(01:45:08):
you just don't know something's a possibility, like our parents
didn't know almost like you could live somewhere totally away
from where you grow My parents were the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Only ones who didn't like or who did that, so
it was very wild.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Yeah. See, that's what was crazy. My mom lives twenty
minutes from where she grew up and both her sisters
live around there too, that like, you know, I'm sitting
there like is it crazy if we want to like
live in Chicago, Like my parents never did that either,
and like that was like forty five minutes to an
hour away. Yeah, So I was like, let's plant the seed. Yeah,

(01:45:43):
and he's still I mean he also told me when
I was like I can't wait to travel to Europe
or like Mexico or just like all these different places,
he was like, why don't why don't people just always
go to Florida and like go to the beach, And
I was like, oh, we are so like so I
was planting sea yeah, and he was very you could
tell when I was like, oh, like should we plan
a spring break trip? And he'd be like, Florida and

(01:46:04):
I'd be like, no, so here's the thing there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
And you can see that like when you introduced the
new thing, it probably didn't spark ideas or he didn't
have the wheels, weren't coming to be like whoa wait,
that is a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Yeah, Like if we'd watch TV, I would be like,
oh my god, La, wouldn't it be cool to live there?
And he'd be like no. And that's where I'd be like,
you're note, the seed hasn't planted. We didn't catch and
that's okay, it's okay. That's when you know. So I
think Page maybe was like because it was a different
time when they were dating to now, so maybe she's

(01:46:37):
planting the seeds of like I don't ever want to
live a slow life, like my career is really taking
off to see how if he'll grow into it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Yeah, it's just what it isn't really living a slow
life now. So it's kind of like the reverse. He's like,
I want to tear off, like climb, yeah, go off
of the path we're both on. He's the one who
wants to change the status quo little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Yeah, so I don't I don't know, obviously, I'm talking
on my ass. But if I was Paige, I would
plant the seeds. See how we're gonna go. I do
think seeds have been being planted for a while. Agreed.
But they also love each other, right, I didn't love
this guy, but like three toll the rip chord off

(01:47:23):
of one conversation, that's it. Like I didn't love the
guy that was like I only want to go to Florida, Like, okay,
fuck you. It wasn't that big a loss, but this
would be. And it's a public breakup, so like you're
opening yourself up to what they have gotten, which was
a lot of judgment as we sit here and judge
their relationship. So I understand them both being like we

(01:47:44):
aren't ready to let this go yet. Yeah, I mean,
my god, they broke up and didn't tell anyone for
like a month, like they It obviously was hard, especially
the public perception. So that's just where I'm going. But
now I know for sure they would even if they
hadn't broken up by now, I'd be like, they're never
gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
This conversation terrible in my mind, and like that that
was they broke up in my mind, Like they're happening.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Yeah, when Craig comes to visit next weekend. I'm literally
gonna be like, what's he doing here? Him and Page
here broke by.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
It is kind of hard to watch them now because
I'm like, you guys don't work.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
This was so definite. Yeah, so next time on Summerhouse
we have a party. Carl invites a girl that calls
him a leamur, which is so funny because my best
friend Allie would get called the lemur in high school
all the time and it always hurt her feeling so bad.
I don't see it. She's really big eyes, I know,
but I just I know. But yeah, people would be like,

(01:48:39):
it's a lemur and she would get really sad about it.
So that made me extra crack up a little. Lexi
and Jesse are still figuring out their flaying, and Craig
is here and he doesn't want to deal with Kyle
and we're going to get a to be continued. Of course,
we are Jesus Christ, Okay, so let's do fun, not fun.

(01:49:00):
Let's start with not fun. Who are you gonna switch
it up? Or are you gonna go the normal one too?
That we we usually do have like some bass picks
every time, but really suck too bad.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
No, I, I guess I have to go with Lexi
because I she's not being fun in the group. I'm
not even like that out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Of her insecurities that just aren't I'm not vibing with
in the edits she's getting, but like she's not vibing
with the group and mine, I kind of forget she
exists until it's her and Jesse alone and I'm like, ugh, yeah, gross,
that's a good one and I didn't connect. I'm gonna
pick I know this is a cheap shot, and I
always give you ship when you pick these types of people,

(01:49:42):
But I'm gonna pick Danielle because she there wasn't really
anyone else when you study shot. I thought you were
gonna go for Carl for those clogs. No, that's no.
But you I always am like Merred if you can't
put someone not on the cast. Oh yeah, but that's
a She has been on the cast, so she's and
fathered in. She's been on the cast, so I feel

(01:50:02):
like that's fine. And this whole like she's got to
get out of Lindsay's life. Dude, she's gone now though,
like she isn't. Yeah, it wasn't at the pool. Was
she the next morning? I don't think maybe she because
she slipped at the house she came back with everyone. No,
I don't remember seeing her. I see. I don't care.
It doesn't really matter. My thing is, if you're gonna

(01:50:23):
give your opinion on something you know nothing about, please
do because I always do. But preface it with I've
never had a baby out of wedlock with a guy
I've never lived with. But I would be worried that
I would be single momming it instead of like throwing
your insecurity onto Linvy. You know, it just comes out well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
And like when reason and logic, you're against reason and logic,
I can't be on your side.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Yeah, okay, who's your fun gonna be? I have one.
Don't take my fun?

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
You go?

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Okay, you weren't gonna take this anyway because it's a
hot take. I have to pick West something about him
maybe not on the same with you. And you're like, oh,
this is a hot take, this is a cheap shot.
I've gone, I've gone off the rails. This episode, Wes
was fun. He made me fall in love with him.
This seat. This episode, you were like, I'm swooning. I know,

(01:51:16):
I have to know, you know what, no TV for
me tonight. We're done, no men. I'm going to read
a book about a woman who kills all men that
no more loves me. I'm getting I'm getting soft, terrible,
But like he was really funny and enjoyable this episode.
I found like his jokes kind of landed for me.

(01:51:38):
I was cracking up. I really did swoon a little.
And no one else just like matches up to his humor,
like no one else can do it for me. Yeah, anyway,
don't lie, I'm going to pick because.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
He bangs someone twice or two people over the entire weekend.
And I really enjoyed his story about being an undocumented
citizen and like how that happened. And he actually went
on Instagram like this week too and talked about that
experience a little bit more because obviously his actual story

(01:52:13):
got cut down. And I think that it is a
very timely conversation as we're dealing with a lot in
this country, right, so it's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Very brave for him to come forward and share his story. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Also, I need people to stop giving him hate saying
he got married for a green card, because I do
believe he actually loved that woman and they just did
fast track it like there were two benefits there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Well, so twenty three, where would you be if you
were married to the person you were dating at twenty three? Yeah,
Like stop like saying Ice is going to come for him,
Like that's not cool? Are people saying that?

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
People are like, oh wow, the federal government's going to
come for you for a fraudulent marriage. And I'm like,
all right, why do we do this?

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Why are we here? Why is this our country? Literally,
if you say that, I hate you, Like, if you
say that, I absolutely hate you, this is not the
podcast for you. Like I know this is a fun
Bravo podcast, but like, at the end of the day,
this is a safe spot. You need to go goodbye,
see yourself. Do not do not be like an airportant
and announce your exit. No, just leave. No one cares,

(01:53:15):
No one cares if you're leaving. Feel free to DM
my personal account if you want to tell me you're leaving,
because I'll find great joy in that. That's hilarious. Don't
do it here anyway. God, people suck. Thank God for
reality TV. That takes me out of how terrible the
world is and puts me right into the summer. When
Emerald is having sex and Carl's wearing green cloth? How

(01:53:39):
is it not a law that those are illegal? Come on,
those shoes, Come on, We're focused on the wrong thing, true,
We're focused on Emeralds immigration status when we should be
focused on the fashion crime that Carl committed this episode,
like truly anyway, do all the things I mentioned at
the beginning of the episode code. We will be covering

(01:54:01):
all probably sixteen episodes of the stupid show that takes forever.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
But probably definitely we're not probably hit by a meteor
unless one of us dies. I would carry the ship
without you, That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
Avenge me. You know so. And we have a lot
of really cool special things coming, so follow the TikTok,
the Instagram, the Patreon, all of it. Thanks for joining. Bye,

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