Summer House Season 9: Episode 7

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it up. Oh no, no, no, true,
you'll never guess, so sidebar. Yes. And also I feel
like I shouldn't have to remember everything I know. Actually
I have to talk about this three two one Hi everyone. Hey,
I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith. And this is also podcast

(00:21):
Summer House Edition, Season nine, episode seven. If you guys
watch the time stamps, we spend a full episode.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm like, I don't know, four hours, a little more
than that, but like four awake hours.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay total besides that last dumb chunk, like less than
a minute. It was I don't know from like, we
started like five thirty and we had it two thirty,
so not even twelve hours, Meredith, this episode was not
even twelve hours, and it gave me almost nothing.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, what's so frustrating is we shouldn't have waited to
get the Craig Kyle come station, so by our own standards,
that should have been in last week's episode, So like
we should be into next week already.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
This party. Just like, wasn't that fun to spend a
whole episode on?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, Like, I thought the costumes were fun when they
first came out, but they kind of became annoying because
Cyr like couldn't speak and like Amanda ditched her feathers
so quickly, like the costumes and the allure just really.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
They got old really quickly. It's lame. It was a
lame episode. This is a lame summer. Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, it's hard because I have like conflicting feelings about
people going out and people staying in, Like I'm annoyed
on everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I agree, I have conflicting feelings, Like I get why
you leave certain people in, why you would want them
to stay even if they're not giving much as far
as like the funness of it, but like truly, truly, truly,
at its core, Summer House is about going out, getting rowdy,
and that's what causes the fights. I'm kind of in

(02:03):
my personal opinion, I'm kind of over the like long
standing relationship fights, like I want more, same new fight,
Like how like well just meet each other And Carl's
kind of a fuck boy and he's like fucking around
in the house. Is mad at Carl because he's like
a nut.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Job at It's more like as relationships develop, the conflicts
that just naturally arise ian like drunk fights where it
doesn't actually mean anything. It's not that serious. But we're
gonna have little TIFFs because we're both drunk out at night,
and when we talk about it the next morning, it's
resolved and it's not some long standing fight over a
stupid spreads company.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I just need more like like, oh, I'm friends with
this person who then invited this person to come to
the house, whose neighbors with this person, whose roommates with
this person. So I don't actually know that person, but
now we're living together and we all have to co
have it. The first few seasons gave big real world
where you put like a bunch of strangers in and like, yeah,

(03:01):
hope that they figure it out. And similar to real world,
like things would come up because you would be drunk
and because you would be like different people from different
walks of life. But now all these people are from
the same walk of life. They all live in New
York and they live in like this upper tax bracket that.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
We get, and they've been doing it for so long
so they know how to manufacture like a dramatic moment.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
But it's not it's not hitting it. I just I
want if you want to keep these people that's fine,
but give me no, give me a different show. Moved,
that's a big show.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Give me a new show to be moved to the
city and like whatever format that is, and let's return
to mid twenties being dumb, getting drunk, hooking up. I
want to see them working and not like, oh, I
own my company. I want to see like I work

(03:53):
so hard during the week for this boss.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I hate that I have to go play its hard.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It is none of them have like bosses anymore, to
like scurry back to the city on Monday morning, or
that they're getting so drunk on the weekends because they're
so stressed out, like Carl early seasons not having a job,
he was constantly getting fired. So I don't want anybody
turning into like an alcoholic or a drug addict kind
of needs. It's not that level. But I just want
people to like want to have fun so much with

(04:19):
or without alcohol just because they're stressed out from work
and they're managers and like the deliverables on Monday and
like to say that to be catching like Danielle used
to catch trains so late on a Friday. It worked
so hard all through Fridays. Well, everybody got to leave
a little early on like a summer Friday, but Danielle
was so committed to being in the Hanton she would

(04:40):
take that like five pm train.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Danielle used to also like have to work some mornings,
which I kind of like would laugh at. And then Jordan,
I remember one time in the city, had to like
eat his lunch on like a male thing, the stuff
you put mail what is it called a mailbox. He
had to just eat his lunch on it and take
a call. And I was like, oh, the hustle and bustle,
like I wanted it, because you could see like he

(05:03):
didn't want to take that call and come Friday he
was just gonna get smashed because and I.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Know this is possible because there's so many companies Mine
included like returning to office, so I don't need everybody
to be there like truly Monday through Friday. But I
actually think it's more interesting if all those people work
from home from the summerhouse on Friday.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That would be so fun. It would be a little
bit of that.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like COVID style, where like everybody was stressed out about
their jobs and like in their different corners working and
then they would like immediately five o'clock hit and those
people were ready to party.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh, I wouldn't love like because now most companies are
remote Fridays. I'd say after COVID, I would love like
a Thursday night drive down. Yep, you get there late,
You're like, no one talk to me, I gotta go
to bed. We all got to wake up early and
work out, work out, and then work and like whatever
his Friday night hits. Oh, that'd be such a good idea.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's like we would get the laydowns that we want,
like a little wine night with the girls, like on
Thursday night, the chill we just got here. Let's like
have a little bit of rose, no craziness. Friday work
immediately five pm hits. You crack that seltzer. Yeah, and
we're partying.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
And stop stop getting like models. I want people that
have to I want people with their stupid nine to fives.
Their boss won't stop calling, they get to schedule the
meeting five pm on Friday, and they're just like, oh
my want to die. I want those people.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I, like you said, like, I don't want the models,
the people who are like rich already, and I think
consistently across brav but we got to start putting caps
and time limits on when people are on shows because
I'm kind of tired of like lifetimers across the board,
like the cast. Yeah, like, why do we have six
people sitting on a cast who haven't worked a real

(06:46):
job in forever or don't have a real job.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think you get a few like New York richies
where they like they can get the money, but that's
what it should be fun. Yeah, yeah, Like I think
you get a few dress fund kids, but for them
this part, you need people who are stressed out, like
maybe a trust fund kid who just got cut off
by mommy and daddy.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And now it's not that they don't they can be rich,
it's I don't want them to just be sustained by
this show, in this show only. Like we all have
people on all of our casts across the board who
have been there for so long that they just sit
on these shows and then like play it safe or
do whatever, like they know how to have like a
little bit of conflict but not too much. And I

(07:25):
don't want that. I want people who are a little unhinged.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I agree with nothing to lose except their job.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it's also companies stop finding the people that are
on these shows.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
If you like season like one, two, three, whatever. I
would have give if I had any money to give
at the time, because I was in college so I
was broke, I would have given all my money to
these companies. Amanda's web designing thing. Let me know, I'll
go to that company and donate money for all I care.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Honest that that would be so good for a company
to do, a like starting up company, to get one
of their people on these shows to talk about him.
Typically you see people trying to promote their own brands,
but can you imagine, like you I remember, like was
it page and handle on like Betches or in your
days site? Like why didn't they talk about that more?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I don't think Betches wanted to be associated with the.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Show, but you need to find a smaller brand like
he was like you know what put us on the map.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I would go as far to say as like I
think Betches could have benefited more from just That's what
I'm saying, Like why wouldn't you be like, yeah, use
our name?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think do you think I know what bird Dogs is?
Like the fuck I forget? Is West with Complex now?
Or is with a different which I yes, like they are, so,
I mean he needs to be in the social media space,
and so him being on another show only then promotes
his stuff more because people are looking at his profile

(08:59):
for the summerhow stuff and getting the Complex sports.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I didn't really know what Complex was until West are
talking about it, to be honest, So yeah, and though
I hated West Date, ever, I watched it all. Complex
got my view. I watched it multiple times. If we
want to be honest, so Complex got my views. Like,
I think it's a genius. We could go into a
whole marketing company thing. But yeah, just give me new people,

(09:25):
people who who have bringing their step and are ready
to drink their faces off. Not me. I'm tired. I'm old,
We're two d We're too old. Give me people willing
that are single, ready to mingle within the house. That's
the other thing that I missed about Old Summerhouse is
if something didn't work out, it didn't really matter because

(09:46):
you weren't friends with these people. And like Lauren and Carl,
yeah it didn't work out, but then they both signed
up for the same Summerhouse, so that was on them.
But it's not like they destroyed a friend group. Now
they could destroy a whole friend group. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like Gerty's breakup could have destroyed it, but they all
knew because it was season eight, Like this couldn't tear
the group apart because they all wanted the money, so
they just all had to be okay with it.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Oh, so many whatever, so many opinions. Anyway, should we
get into this stupid little episode? Great? Yeah, So previously
on Summer House, we had the start of the Pirate party,
which was only like an hour honestly that we saw.
It's just so dumb. Carl invited this girl named Lil
who called him a lemur and they met through her
her parents. Wes s and Sierra are still not friends,

(10:32):
but Jesse wants to change that. Craig and Carl, Nope,
Carl and Kyle all these the sound Craig and Coop.
Oh my god, Craig and Kyle are beefing. They're beefing,
and Page was put in the middle of it. Craig
also just wants to talk or Craig doesn't want to

(10:53):
talk to Kyle to clear it up. He also, though,
is dealing with his relationship with Page and making sure
that's a priority. But page Is career is thriving. I
swear to God, these case names are gonna send me,
send me. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, great news is Craig is leaving by the next episode,
maybe at the beginning, but he will be leaving and
we will never see him again.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Bye. Except I am pro get me a winter house
now that Southern Chirem and Summer House are beaving. Put
them all if you're gonna sign up for it. Putting
in the house.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Well, what we do have This year's Bravocon, so they
will have to do a whole cast squad.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Do we go again? It was kind of stupid when
we went in the sun. I think Vegas is better.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, but they're in Vegas now, like they know, they
were not of alcohol in the first day that we
were there, or like vodka.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I heard so forty five minutes to even get halfway
through that line. Remember, that's the thing. I think.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think Vegas knows how to handle that side of
the event.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Anyway. So we open up at Saturday, July twenty seven,
at five twenty seven pm. Page and Craig are talking.
I guess they're good. This is where she's kind of
like they like wrap up their conversation of like making
their relationship priority and page basically like doesn't know why

(12:16):
Craig is that worried. She's not going to war. She's
just gonna travel around for three months.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's like you know the schedule, and like you can
match the schedule against her schedule.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, she literally said he's welcome on any tour stop. Yeah,
I don't understand the big deal.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
If he worked a nine to five job and like
let's say it was like an accountant and it was
busy season and her tour was over, that I get
the frustration because he already has very little time. Now
she's gonna be somewhere else. But you guys are both
people who can work on the go.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I just I need I need Craig to tell me,
like I need a better plan of what he does
for work, because I know he owns these stores, But
is he like in the back sewing, like why can't
he leave for I know? So why why must he be?
I understand, like you have to be there a few
days a week, but why is it so hard for
you to leave me?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think you're trying to rationalize this and there is
no rationality because it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I mean, so fine. That's what I need to know.
I need to know. I need him to admit it.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I know, I swear if Andy doesn't ask this at
the Southern Charm reunion, like.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Why can't that's happening?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, Like why couldn't you have made this work? We're
seeing it actually.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Even if it's as dumb as like his he needs
to take care of his bees in his garden. I
just need to know what his rationale is for, like
he can never leave Charleston, like I know, I truly
don't think he has one. I know, but like then,
I just need to I need him to tell me
he doesn't have one. You need him to come up with,
like a lie of any eye I got for such

(13:52):
a liar, Give me a lie, Lie to me honestly,
at least, if you're gonna put up a stink lie
to make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Give me the bullet points, like why she needs to
come to you and why.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
This is such an issue. This doesn't math for the
math doesn't math for me. It's nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I'm so angry anyway, Okay, Oh wait, hold on, a
lot of people are saying like, oh, page isn't gonna
watch What Happens Live. I truly think they're waiting until
all the Southern Charm stuff is over and then Page
will react to all of it because Craig was on
it this week, and then the Southern Charm Reunion is
like over the next few weeks. And so I swear

(14:32):
if Page is not that first Wednesday after the Southern Charm.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Reunion ends, like, tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I truly think it might just honestly just be
her and be like, okay Page so she can talk.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
About the Southern Charm Reunion. It's interesting. I don't know.
I just hate that it's like a sausage fest. I'm
watching What Happens Live.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
This week well because I think they're ready and waiting
for the girlies to attack those men next week.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yuh, I can't wait anyway. This is also Page's dream, right,
She's worked her whole life to do something like her
podcast tour, and Craig is just stressing her out because
he doesn't feel like he's checked in on as a
thirty six year old man. How old is he? Like?
Sold No, he's in his forties.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Oh, I swear he's either forty or turning forty here soon.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh my god, these men. This is why you can't
have lifers on these shows, because they never really grow
up and like they're.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well, the problem is that they're the same people that
they were when they started. Like, stop being a goddamn baby.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Someone I think commented on one of our videos and
was like, stop hating on the Southern charm men, and
I respect like, oh it was Shep I was hating on.
And she's like, stop hating on Shep, Like you know
who he is, so why are you complaining? And I
was like, I just thought he would have grown in
the past nine years, but he's still the same fucking loser.
At least had some media training. I don't know what

(16:04):
he's bitching about. He didn't even like Craig.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Hey, why is he bitching about Pape. He doesn't even
have a job and he's talking about pages.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
He doesn't like Page or Craig. What's he doing? Why?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why do you want her on your cast trips so bad?
You don't like them?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Whatever? That's another issue. We're talking about literally anything but
this episode, because there's nothing that he does anything anyway.
H Kyle comes over and is like, hey, page. Can
we switch places? And she's like, I've never been more
happy to get out of a boat, honestly, And so
she leaves and Kyle sits down and then Greg's like,
hey on, I'm gonna go refill my drink b r B.

(16:40):
So then we cut to I Know. Then we cut
to Jesse and he tells this group of girls. He's like,
I'm kind of dating someone because they're like, you know,
not hitting on him, but like flirting with him obviously.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, Ian, let's be honest, like, and this is no
shade fans are going, so I would want the tea.
I'd be like, oh, are you seeing anybody this summer?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah? And like, if Jesse Solomon wants to make out
with me, I'm not gonna say no.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm digging for the details.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
First. I'm under I'm under a lot of spirits and
lover boy right now, you don't know what I'm thinking? Okay,
he does. Jesse does confirm though, that he still loves
to party, he just doesn't want jeopardize his relationship with Lexi,
and then we cut to Lil and Carl. These two
are weirdos. Anyway, lil is talking about how how dope

(17:30):
magicians are. I forgot about this.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, but her pulling those cards out and then being like,
I don't know how to use the way.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Why are you carrying magicians in her free time? She
wants to go to magic school with I don't I'm
sure to learn the cards that she carries around in
her birds listen, I think like doing magic tricks that cool.
Like I don't care about that.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I find it weird that you're carrying around the cards
and you don't know how.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
To use up. I love magic, but never have I
uttered the words. Besides, right now them magicians are dope,
Like that's just so stupid. The way she talks is
what cracks me up. Magicians are dope. Yeah. It was
very like obvious, like I don't know it was her.
She had like this weird swag to it. It was

(18:19):
so weird but not at the same time time, magic
is cool. Magicians aren't necessarily that cool, but it's cool
they do magic, you know what I mean. And then
Carl tells Lil so lil Is then I don't know,
she might be a little drug. She's dancing listening to
Carl talk right. She's just swaying her arms back and forth.

(18:40):
And then Carl's like, Hey, this is my new business, Softbar,
and she's like, oh my god, you gottaw. I have
open mic nights. I was like, this girl is crazy.
He was like yeah, and he's like, I would love
an open mic night. Do you want to come to
friends and family soft opening.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I was like no, I don't want her another weekend.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Uh. Carl, though, he's really in Delil because she believes
in him and his goals and she's listening to everything
he's talking about for Softbar. This girl literally is in
another dimension currently she's talking about don't She's like, get
your soft bar higher, magician open by night. I agree.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It is important to have somebody who believes in your
dreams the way you do. And I don't think him
and Lindsay were compatible. This girl is hammered talking about
magicians and you're talking about your soft bar. She's just
willing to go yay. Like being a life partner on
a restaurant tours journey is a lot different than being

(19:44):
the the woo.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
The situationship of a man already opening a bar that
you assume he is like funding for and stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's the thing is like, anybody tells me any idea
and I barely know them, I'm like, oh cool, yeah, yeah,
I mean yes.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I've Lindsay and Carl were about to get married and
he's like he had already gone through what like twelve
different job options and then he's like, hey, I'm going
to open a non alcoholic sports bar, and Lindsay goes no,
that makes sense. Also, they were talking about literally starting
a family in the next year, Like it made zero
sense for him to like go into business with himself.

(20:23):
I'm like, an idea that wasn't really yeah, because there
was no Zson.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, the context of Lindsay's lack of support makes sense.
But had he opened it and they got married, I
think she would have been supportive as much as she
could have been.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
As much as she could have been. Lil can be
very supportive because this is the time to do anything.
This is the first time you guys are supposedly meeting
in person. The fuck does she care? Is it? Well? Remember,
he's like, I've been dming her since October and last
week I was like, is this the first time they're meeting. Yeah.
We talked about how they could have done a date. Yeah,
So of course, lil, I'm care if I just meet

(21:01):
you go to the moon for all I care.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Support here Bill not hard to like support you because
I just have to say words. I don't have to
do any of the actual things that acquire supporting.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
No skin, Oh my god. Okay, but she's yeah. And
then so Carl's like, yeah, Carl's like, come to my open,
my soft opening, and She's like, I would fucking love to.
I just want to support you and watch you fucking flourish.
And I was like, yike. She like yells this at
him too.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I was like, girl, well, I mean apparently that is
the type of support he needs.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So on a cheerleader. He wants a cheer and that's
this girl. So now so far. Once they have to
share assets, then she's gonna be like stop.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Once she yeah, has to help support this actual bar.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
May we ask her for cash and she's like and
we're done.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Dad are like, what if she has to work a shift?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's not gonna work. So we cut to Kyle. He's
still waiting in this boat for Craig. Then Jesse and
Sierra they are grabbing some food and then Wes comes
over and he's like, hey, Sierra, I get to like
a look at your costume, and so like they do that,
and he's like it's kind of scary. And then Jesse's like,

(22:17):
but you're not scared of her, right, And Wes and
Sierra are both like, eh, yes, he's making this weirder. Yeah,
Jesse's making it like they were fine. They like had
a normal Sarah inaction. Sarah let him look at her
his costume and he said her costume, he said, it's
kind of scary, and she's like, yeah, we all could
have just moved on. So then Jesse's like, hey, Sierra,

(22:41):
give Wes the high give him a hug, and Sierra goes, no,
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You're not going to force me to give somebody a hug.
I really gotta stop doing that. I read an article
about that with like kids, like you should not like
force kids and tell them they should be hugging people,
like yeah, there should be some level of consent and
they should know that they're not forced to like do people,
even family members. So don't tell me to hug someone

(23:08):
that actually, even if I wanted to hug someone, that's
gonna make me not want to do it.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, so we get why Wessy or why Wessy Jesus,
why Jesse wants the friendship to go on? Right? It
was a good trio. Wes understands it. Jesse's just making
it super weird. Wes even compares this trio to uh
Pippin' Jordan and Rodman of the nineties, which this would

(23:35):
have been kind of for today's day and age, a
niche reference if not for the ESPN Michael Jordan documentary
that we all had to watch, which made me laugh
out loud because we would have gotten that as like
midwesterners who likes love sports, but because we were all
in COVID and we all watched the same documentary.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I also think this is a good analogy. In some ways,
you were comparing like two months of friendship, maybe six months.
I'll give it to him, I guess because they like
dated Ish in the Fall, but like of Grooven, two
years of franchise, like Dominal you Jack.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Sing every day and then yeah, Dominance I was the Kingdom.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
If you would I would say, like the Lindsay Carl
breakup could be like the breakup of that type of
you know, dominant forces. I know there weren't three of
them involved, but you guys hung out for six months.
Why are you expecting the trio to be back together
as if you guys have spent your whole life growing
up together and be investies.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I also love that Bravo assigned them each player, so
Sierra got Jordan, Jesse got Pippin, and Wescott Rodman, which
was also everything so funny because I mean, Jordan and
Pippen were on the team together longer than Rodman. He
came in later, so that says a lot.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And I think Rodman also gets constantly like brushed off,
like oh, he's the like third yeah, I think, because
he again, they had won championships without him, and he
came for like the last three I think, and he
was always like out there.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I mean he was in Vegas with Madonna half the
time Jordan and had to literally be like take this seriously,
bro Which so anyway, so Wes though he's getting better
at dealing with the awkward hangouts, but obviously there's gonna
be no trio. Hanks in the future cut to Kyle.
He's still waiting in the boat. Meanwhile, Craig is on

(25:34):
his laptop in Page's room.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I think this is respect is so funny. Yes, it's listen.
If I'm Kyle. From the argument standpoint, I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You, Craig.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
That is so rude to all the people last week
who were like, oh, do it on you know, like,
let Craig do it on his time. Yeah, there was
a time when Craig could have just been like, hey,
tomorrow morning, let's talk over whatever. Craig is literally avoiding
this conversation at all costs, and you cannot tell me
any different. I won't hear it. But from an entertainment perspective,

(26:10):
I was cracking up at.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So Jesse and Sierra then talk. Jesse immediately like brings
up West of course, and how Sierra gives him neggie attention,
that's what he calls it, negative neggie attention. But Jesse
just wants to know what needs to happen for the
three of them to like one hundred percent move on.
And I wanted to scream, like it, get over it,

(26:36):
it's not going to happen. The three of you have
to do something.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Then Sierra is like he can do whatever he wants,
like we're coexisting very well in this house. Yeah, but like,
Sierra is not going to pretend like he. She feels
like Wes used her last summer, so she's not going
to pretend like that didn't happen and then come back
to Kyle. He's, oh, sorry, did you want to say
something before I get back to Kyle.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
We talked about it, like the first week. Is they
expect her to give something they are not owed yep,
like she should. And I think every person should be
able to exist with other people and be polite and
like do the conversation we had about the costumes earlier.
But her friendship is not something you are owed. It's

(27:21):
not something you deserve. It's not a right. You have
no right to her.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, And I think it's unfair of Jesse to be
like when can we get to how we were before
everything happened? And it's like, well that's not how the
world works, right, Like things did happen, yah, and now
this is where we are, and like you are also
not giving her time in space right this Let's just
say from the New York Times article that came out,
that just came out for her, So she read that

(27:47):
and now she's pissed again, So she needs to get
over that too, Like you haven't even given her a
year of leaving her out of the bullshit yet, and
you're expecting her to like move on immediately, Like why
don't you give her some time?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
And it puts the blame on her, like it's her
fault that we don't have this good groove rather than
it being West's fault for what he did to ruin
their friendship. Because again, it's not necessarily all about the breakup,
Like it's okay for him to end things with her,
but you do have to have the expectation that not
everybody can go back to being friends. And then when

(28:20):
you add in all the press and all the media
that you did, like you basically like shut the door
on being friends when you did those things.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, I think it's important to note too, like if
I have feelings towards you and you don't reciprocate those feelings,
whether we dated, whether we were in love, whether it
was just like a flirtation, I'm gonna be hurt. So
like I have to for me change the way I
act around you. And that's just that, like it it
doesn't matter if even like I admit it, right, and

(28:49):
it's not reciprocated. I still then for my own feelings,
I'm gonna want to change the way I act and
like that's.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Okay, heavy on that, because feelings don't just go away.
We saw see her say that she wanted to like
make out with Wes after yelling at him, like I
have to build walls up around me and like set
boundaries because I still probably have feelings for you, and
I don't want to like get myself into another situation
of constantly being hurt by my own feelings. So I'm

(29:18):
backing away. I'm letting myself cool down. I'm getting myself
out of these situations to not be frustrated that you
don't have feelings for me, which is okay, which is
why I have to do all these things to make
sure I'm okay. And Jesse just like cant seem to
like comprehend that I understand. Jesse's like, ugh, like I

(29:39):
miss he's missing out on the most I would say
of he didn't do anything wrong and like he loved
that trio and had so much fun with his friends,
and he's in kind of like the weird position between
the two of them, even though it's not that weird.
So I understand the desire to want things to go
back to normal, especially from him, but he's not respecting
Sierra's feelings and that in turn is making him a

(30:01):
bad friend to her.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
That he's being a good friend to Wes and a
bad friend of Sierra, which I angers me a lot, honestly. Anyway, Yeah,
so Kyle's in the boat, Craig's eating chips in the mirror. Now,
I mean, like, there are some different tasks he has done.
Yea since he said he was gonna go get a
drink and be right back for this combo. I wish
we put a clock on him. Truly, it probably was

(30:25):
only like ten minutes, but it seemed like.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
So no, wait, he went and got a drink, he
went to the bathroom, he was on his computer, He's
eaten chips, like, and he's still not bad.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
How long is Kyle gonna wait there? Though after five
minutes I'd be like, no.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
This is Kyle's dedication to getting things on camera and
doing the like conflict resolution and why he's like basically
a producer.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
He will sit there no matter how long, just baking
on au tar that'ud be so hot. Anyway, So back
to Jesse and Sierra. Siarah says she didn't really even
like Wes at first, right, but because of like the
banter and he like kind of did pursue her a little,
or she felt like he was a little persistent that

(31:09):
she actually then fell for him, which I agree to
an extent. I do think at the beginning, Sarah was
kind of like after the Austin things, she really didn't
want anything. But I think in a way, I don't
think Wes was necessarily persistent, but I think he liked
flirting with Sierra, so he kept doing it, and Siarah
like liked flirting back. But I agree, I don't think

(31:30):
she saw him and was like my heart throbs. I think,
like that's the thing. It's not like she like was
swept off her feet immediately.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Like the way Jesse was with LEXI yeah, yeah, yeah,
like Wes, it was mutual. They both like enjoyed hanging
out with each other and both started to like fall
for each other at a normal rate.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
So then Jesse jokes and he's like, if I was
there on time, which I forgot. Jesse wasn't here the
first weekend last summer, and I.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Realized his first weekend, he took them all to a
party and left them like at the party. So like
there were kind of some bad vibes early on of
Jesse Solomon.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, but Jesse was like, if I was, you know,
if I was in the right place last summer, would
you like, why would you have given me a chance?
Or like why didn't you give me a chance? And
Sarah's like why didn't you try? And Jesse's like, oh,
because Wes called DIBs And Sarah's like, listen, Jesse Solomon,
don't let anyone stop you from finding your wife, Jesse jokes,

(32:30):
and he's like, so you're saying, don't let Lexi stop
me from finding you.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
And someone who takes it there always like yeah, Siarah's
flirting with it, like the friendly banter with him.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's friendly banter that she's giving me the same friendly
banter that she gave Wes. But Jesse doesn't just give
friendly banter back the way West did, and it built
He literally flirt banters and then it like kind of
dies cause Sierra's like, no, I'm not telling you.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That with Lexi, well she says, She's like no, Jesse
puts the bit in to their real life, like they're
talking about last summer and oh what if he would
have gotten there first? And she's like, don't let it
ever stop you and he's like, oh, you mean in
this present situation with you.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
If you yeah? Crazy? And then Sierra says the first time,
this is the first time she's hearing Jesse like even
express any interest because last year it was fair game, right,
two new guys, who knows what could happen? So her
head's kind of been a pickle. So Sarah tells Jesse

(33:30):
that if that was all last summer, he's practically married now,
like she really SAIDs that boundary, and he just you
have like a soft little like yeah from Jesse.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
This is the problem. Like bro code and girl code
are good. I don't think you should try to swoop
in on your friend's like interest or crush. But this
is the downside, is like what if you like them too?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I I think because it wasn't really like a big relationship.
It wasn't it was like a yeah, they were dating,
and because Wes was the one that ended it. I
think if Wes gives his go, it's all good for Jesse.
It might still be weird though, because like.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
They're I I think so too, But I just think
about that alternative like yeah universe where Jesse says, like,
what if I got there first, I do think that
they could have also had something and what would that
have looked like. I think it's really hard to do
it now, just given everything, but I do.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'm not gonna lie though, I do like it. I'm
Amanda and Craig, and I'm like, idea.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's the only good thing that happened this episode is
that little pow wow kind of chat happening and Amanda
and Craig.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So Creig finally comes back for Kyle. Jesse and Sierra
are totally watching too because they're on the island, And
then Jesse tells Sierra that Craig is not going to
forgive Kyle unless Kyle changes his whole mindset on how
he viewsed this situation. So then we get like a
flashback back to when Craig was talking to Jesse and

(35:05):
West and Craig says that by burning bridges, Kyle has
no weight to the top. Craig pulled all lover Boy
items from his stores and he will never touch it again.
Did he sell Loverboy at Sewing down South. Where'd he
pull this? He must have. I would see anyone I
went in Charleston.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I spoke that place when it was this summer, so
it was after that was all it happened. And I
can't remember when Kyle was on that Watch What Happens,
Like it had to be when Summerhouse was airing last season,
so like this time last year when the fight really started,
so I.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Had to be around July. Yet I didn't go till
the beginning of August.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, no, no, it was before July. But like it was
in the springtime of last year. Is when that watch
What Happens Live?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh you're right, you're right, because the Sprits thing came out.
Yeah yeah, yeah, weird. Well there wasn't as someone who
went and scoured that can control was not out of nothing. Okay,
So finally Craig and Kyle are going to talk. Kyle
says his goal is to put this to bed and
go back to a world where they can exist as friends,

(36:11):
and Craig says that Kyle is the only one that's
made this a thing, and Kyle says like he would
never go to a direct competitor of a friend and
Craig says, well, you're keeping money out of my pockets
and other people's pockets by having that loyalty.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I think this is complex because Kyle does take the
stuff nuclear, so like he is the one who brought
this like publicly, and then like, you can't dictate what
other people are going to do just because you own
a business.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Meredith, I gotta tell you. I was listening to them
talk and I was kind of like, I don't know,
I could really see where Kyle was coming from, and
then he lost me at some point. So basically we again,
we learned the details. But Craig was approached with this
spriad deal. He told Kyle about the deal, it sounds like,

(37:04):
and then he took the deal. That's how Kyle is
seeing it, or that's how Craig's kind of seeing it.
But Kyle, I guess when Craig said, hey, I was
presented with this deal, it sounds like Kyle responded, give
me a chance to respond, but the deal was already done.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
It seems like the deal was too far for Kyle
to have time to respond.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
So I need to know. This is my other thing.
How did because Okay, Craig gets the deal at Sprits,
They're like, hey, join our team. Whatever does Craig text
Kyle like, FYI I got this deal with Sprits and
I'm going to do it, or does he say like, hey,
I was approached with this deal from Sprits thoughts like,
you know, like how does he present it? Because then
if Kyle's like, give me a chance to respond, you know,

(37:51):
and Craig presented it as like Hey, I'm just letting
you know this happened. But what do you think? That's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I need to know what this actual communication is because
it's it's still being talked about in a vague way.
If if Kyle wasn't clear about wanting to do a
deal with him, then Craig's not at fault here. Like
Craig has every right to take any deal, no matter
the company.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
That is just business.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
But as a friend, he should tell his friend, hey,
I'm doing this if you want me instead, because if
you don't want me, that is taking money out of
my pocket to bar me from doing other deals and
not like.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Also want to give me a deal. That's it is.
I want to know how how Craig presented it to Kyle,
and then how Kyle responded, and then like did Craig
say like no, I'm taking the deal, or like oh
I took the deal or did he just leave it
and then Kyle found out on a billboard one day
or whatever, you know, like what's his time frame?

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Because if I leave it in your court or like
if Craig leaves it in Kyle's court for like a
month and there's no communication back of like hey, putting
a deal together, like if it was if Kyle responds
just like oh, I'll think about it, like let me
see what I can get together, and never says anything,
I'm gonna go through with that deal because like, clearly
this isn't that important to you. But I got to
move my life forward too, So at some point, like

(39:11):
it depends whose job, like who who had one leak
the group? Well, like give me like T Mobile, Verizon,
somebody leak him from that level.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Leak it okay. Craig then responded like it's just business
to Kyle, which I guess Kyle didn't take lightly, which
again I was like, but in what context did you
just go it's just business?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
But Kyle, it's always more And I get that, but
you can't expect everybody to react the same way about
your business that you do.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
So Craig's mad that Kyle said he had a reputation
for lying on Watch What Happens Live, and Kyle's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, okay, Craig is a liar. But I even even
if I was a known liar, I would still be
mad if my friends called me a liar on.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
That's kind of where he lost me. When Kyle's like, oh,
well call it as I see it, I was like,
oh no.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I'm like, you don't want repair here, and that's fine,
but you can't want repair on your side and not
give a little You should just it's one of those
things where you just apologize for it, even if it's true.
You just like, I'm sorry for saying that.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
You know what, though, I got to give it to Kyle.
That was so funny just looking and be like yup,
and I was like, damn, get oh my god. Then
we cut to Amanda watching these two grown men in
pirates outfits argue in a dinghy on a tart. That's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's literally a dry blue tarp, dry, no water in.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Everywhere because they were barefoot on this tart. I looked
everywhere for water. I couldn't find any. Oh, I meant
it did look like the tarp was kind of in
the shade by the house though, Okay, I was wondering
ring when Craig walked out, did he like Scamper, like
Samper across Christ We're both barefoot? When Kyle came over

(41:07):
and stood next to them and was like, hey, Page,
can we change he was barefoot? I love you. I'm
journalism right here, fire me. Okay. So Kyle says he's
not going to apologize for the lying comment. So Craig says,
then we aren't cool. And so now it's six eleven,

(41:30):
so we've made it not even an hour into this
episode into the party, and Craig and Kyle are still
arguing in the dinghy and if Kyle's narts not sorry,
Craig's not cool, and Kyle says Craig's level of sadness
does not even come close to how devastated I can't.
This is wrong.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I'm like Kyle, he learned you cannot compare people's like
emotions and reactions to things, because I if I were Craig,
I would be pissed. My friend is publicly calling me
a liar on wash what happens Lide because I took
a deal. It is just business to Craig, but it
is way different meaning to Kyle.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
And Kyle were devastated.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
He's devastated, and you need to go to therapy, Go
to therapy and unravel your self worth and everything from
this stupid lover boy company Kyle Lee. I, I just like,
I can't imagine if one of my friends was so
obsessed with their company that it like their emotions always

(42:36):
took priority because they like have a company.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Meredith, I think this is you're missing a key, a
key part of this. You're not going to be friends
with someone who acts like this at forty two years old.
That's so you have to just laugh at these two years.
I just they're all apparently forty As you said with Craig,
these are two forty year olds. That's hilarious. They're in

(43:00):
they were costumes in a dinghy on the tar, on
the drying tart. It for me lying there are not
hus like, it's okay. So whatever Kyle says, his reactions
do need to be work done. However, this this is

(43:21):
his business and it's all his business is all consuming.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
And no fucking way, I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Okay, really trugger. He feels like he gets attacked on
a personal level when someone comes to his business, but
Kyle does apologize. Kyle does apologize for calling Craig a liar,
and Kyle says he needs to work on how he reacts.
He's forty two, he's still figuring it out, and I
was like, his life is happening. I lost it at that.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I was like, now, oh, we're still figuring out this
is it just giving me flashbacks to Jack's being like,
I'm working on myself.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Pared it's blood pressures through the roof. I just I
think I just can.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
No longer handle men in general, but especially these Bravo.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Forty year olds. Come on it. I've been dealing with
this for years. It's hilarious. It's I think I removed
myself and I saw this conversation for what it was,
stupid to forty two year olds arguing about juice on
a tart. Okay, I didn't even watch it. They didn't
even do it before or after. It's everyone else is

(44:31):
getting hammered.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Behind them, and you have like Amanda looking on, you
have like Sierra and Jesse looking a camera.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
In your face like it's so, this is so funny.
The sound there's literally what's that thing called the sound
thing hanging about the boom. The boom is above you. Like,
everyone calmed down, It's not this serious. It's about juice.
It's about juice. So Kyle is here mainly for his

(45:04):
friendship with Craig and their girlfriends or wives or whatever.
Craig appreciates the apology. He said he was really sad
when this whole thing did go down to because he
doesn't have a ton of friends. Oh that was awesome. Yeah, no,
we will.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
You guys can't have friends because you don't have any
like emotional awareness, None.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Of you do. Your emotional intelligence is on the ground. Yeah,
you have any friends? And so they hug.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
So they're not friends, they're basically coworkers.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Let's literally move on. So Lil and Carl take a
picture together. Oh goes to change. Craig finally tries some
lover boy sprints and he says it's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Him going, I didn't know you guys had other things
than tea. I was like, Jesus, fuck Christ.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
He's too busy drinking top hop trot. No, he is it.
I know, I know that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
This stems from never supporting like Austin's business ever, so
that's why he could.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Treat business is on the ground. Okay, she doesn't get angry.
He's too drunk on his crop hop trump. I don't care.
I'm never another juice, another different kind of juice. So
we party on. Kyle changes into the shark costume so

(46:35):
he can DJ in that. Carl tells Sierra he's gonna
ask Lil on a date, and Sierra is so excited.
She's more excited about this than his wedding.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I died when she said that, because I was like, yeah, no,
this nobody had a positive reaction to the incoming wedding
that never happened.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
So Craig loves watching. He's telling Amanda, He's like, I
love watching Jess and Wes. These young boys run around
to all the girls. It's so funny. And I guess
Jesse earlier had asked Craig when do you stop looking
at other girls? And Craig says, you date the girl
you want, you would want to cheat on your girlfriend with,

(47:16):
and until you meet that girl, you don't date anyone,
And I thought, is that how guys date? I was concerned.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I was like, uh, Jesse might be single for the
rest of his life because I think he constantly wants everybody.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I don't think you date the person you want to
cheat on your girlfriend with. I think you like get
along with someone and it goes really well and you're
attracted to them, And sure there are gonna be hotter
people that you would maybe want to hook up with,
but you wouldn't do that because you love the person
you're with.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Wait, this makes more sense of why, Like Craig was
maybe blindsided because he just thought that we just choose
people because they're so hot, we just want them so bad.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, we wouldn't want to cheat on them. How we
actually love and love them.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
And like, yeah, how we're react in everyday life.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, this was come obstacles like this. Guys really think
though about dating? That's scary anyway.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
I feel like Bravo continually pushes me or like reaffirms.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
That in a single Oh well both of those either one.
If I'm telling you, if it was a choice, I
would choose to date women. Yeah, I think I would too,
because I think I would get I think we'd be
really sut like fulfilled emotionally, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I'd get the like emotional support I desire.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, I'm in for lavender marriages. If anyone else I
want would love, let me know. I would also do
like a domestic partnership. Meredith and I already are going
to move in together.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
More of the like you know what, whenever you you're
like younger and you see people say like, oh, if
we're thirty and like we're not married, we're gonna get married,
I feel like that's us in our domestic.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, we should have all why were we doing that
with guys? We all just do that with our girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
I since college have told like it's been different people
at different times, but been like, all right, we're gonna
share a house together, like especially if one of us divorced. Yeah,
Like I'm I'm all in for just kind of having
a compound.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Hell yeah. So Amanda tells Craig it's hard to keep
up with Jesse half the time or most of the time,
because half the time he's married off and the other
half he's looking at other girls. And if Lexi was here,
Jesse wouldn't leave her side. So they called Jesse over
and they're like, hey, how are you doing without Lexi?
And Jesse's like, it's weird because there's all these hot

(49:40):
girls that I love looking at, but I'm afraid to
change my ways and become a taken man. I don't
get it, like you either wond or you don't. Well,
Craig and Amanda are like, Lexie would like, should make
you want to change? And then Greg was like, you
don't date people because check boxes. You date people because

(50:02):
you don't want to hang out with anyone else. And
I was like, that's better than the cheating thing you
said earlier. The hot thing. Well, they were Jesse did
ask about like.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Hot girls, like how do you basically lock yourself down
from being attracted to.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Other do you? When do you stop looking at other girls? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
But I agree with Craig here, like, yeah, it just
is something that you feel settled in. It shouldn't feel forced,
and this feels forced for Jess.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Crazy. So Jesse then tells them he also had a
good conversation with Sierra seemingly out of the blue, which
seemed weird and I'd like to know how that was edited.
Amanda says. She feels like Jesse and Sierra will totally date.
And Jesse's like, I asked her what could have been
if I had showed up on time last year? So

(50:49):
but nothing. And Amanda's like, hey, if if there's a
burning building, who are you saving? Lexiar? Sierra and Jess
he says, the road so tiny, I'll throw him over
my shoulders. Him saying both was so telling. Well then
Craig was like, that's not nothing, dude, Yeah, And Jesse's like, no, Like, obviously,

(51:11):
Sierra is beautiful and she has a heart of gold,
but with certain people it's more of a friend vibe,
and it's a friend but vibe with Sierra because she
dated my friend and we haven't like discussed really beyond that.
And Amanda's like, would you date Sierra though? And Jesse
just says he's a straight man, he obviously would.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It's interesting the way Jesse talks about Sierra in the
way he talks about Lexie. I wonder if it is edited.
I do have like a little bit of hesitation around
it because there is a chance it's edited. But at
the same time, like, obviously Jesse recognizes and speaks about
how Sierra dropped dead gorgeous, but he typically also speaks

(51:53):
about her in other ways, about her friendship and how
kind she is, and we don't see that with Lexi,
And it goes back to what we talked about all season,
like they just don't have that depth like Jesse and Lexi.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, it says a lot. I think the way, like
you said, he talks about Sierra. I also think though
Jesse doesn't seem like the type of guy who has
ever done kind of a slow burn thing, so I
think it might be kind of new to him. He
also doesn't seem like the type of guy that has
like tons of really close girlfriends, so it might be

(52:26):
a new thing that Like there really wasn't any pressure
with Sierra, right she was dating West and then they
broke up, and like they always have just been open
and honest friends with each other. And that might be
new for Jesse because he's having this thing with a
woman he's never had before. So he might just like
love that and maybe not realize that that's what he
needs in a relationship, is like that depth.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
There's also a uniqueness of having that type of intimacy
with a friend of the opposite sex if you haven't
had one like that or had like such a close one.
I have a similar relationship with like a guy friend,
where then it always gets put in the back of
your head, whether it's other people or you. These are
constantly told to as a straight person, look at the
opposite sex and like be wanting and desiring them. So

(53:11):
when you do just have a platonic relationship, you're like,
is there something there between us? Or are we just friends?
I feel like you kind of always question that.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, and I think it comes with practice, Like if
you grew up having a lot of friends of the
opposite sex, like you can kind of navigate it a
little bit better. But I Jesse doesn't strike me as
the person that like has like girlfriends he turns to
and like, you know, I think he's not close enough this. Yes,
And like I said, with Sierra, there was never any
option to do more. So now that they've like built

(53:44):
this really solid foundation and there's an option that this
could be more. I think that like that excites Jess
in a way because he wouldn't have to be anyone
with Sierra but himself. Yeah, with Lexi, he's putting on
kind of like and we see it this like weird show.
He's like flirty, and he's like uncomfortable and he's weird
and he like doesn't know what to do, but like

(54:05):
he knows the type of person Sierra is and.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
How he those conversations is so different because last year
he had him as the trio, so it's like with
a guy and a girl, and so he just got
to be his fun self without thinking about being interested
in Sierra in that way like you spoke about him.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Yeah, And going back to what Craig said about like cheating,
I mean, if we want to really take it that
way or like bring that into it, I don't think
Jesse would want to cheat on Zera because he would
never want to hurt her because he loves her, even
if it's just a friend right now. Yeah, but that's
kind of why you don't cheat, because you build this
beautiful thing, right So Jesse, if he did date Sierra,

(54:44):
would never want to hurt her because they've already built
this like something.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
He has this care for Sierra beautifull. I'm rooting for it,
I am, and I'm not like I I wish Jesse
realized like they just had a friend moment. I wish
they took their like bantering a little few steps back
from flirting. So it could just be a really beautiful
male to female friendship. Okay, like that could be modeled

(55:10):
on TV without this, like you guys should date, you
guys should date.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Okay, that's that's also fair. Okay. It's seven to twenty
three PM, so we've made it two hours into this party.
Amanda is rooting for Jesse and Sierra and Greg's got
in on it too, and then they tell Kyle what happened,
and Kyle will drive this is the gossip of the party, Like,
I'm in on this. Sierra finds Page in her room.

(55:36):
Page is just hiding out, and she tells Page that
she talked to Jesse, but we don't really go into
the info. And then Lil and Carl talk and he
is so happy that Lilla is here. This is his
new fresh start in the house because you know, he
had hist his ex fiancees here last year. Oh my god.

(55:57):
And then he tells Lil that Lindsay got pregnant on
the bed that Carl paid for in their all department.
I just even if it's true, even if it's true,
why are we talking? He brings up Lindsay all the time,
and I get like it's fresh memes, but like, oh,
the last person I had sex with was Lindsay. I

(56:18):
thought about it at the beach when I saw her
in her pregnant bikini.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
And then he's like the thing it's Lindsay and her
being pregnant that he constantly talks about, which I know
that's what she is.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
But she is pregnant.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Like he's a little obsessed with this pregnancy in weird ways,
and I know it's being like forced upon him in
ways that it shouldn't if you were the ex.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
But like, I don't think he has and this is fair,
it's only been a year. I don't think he's fully
like process the breakup and then the pregnancy hit, So
I don't think he's take any of it. So I
think this is we're watching in real time him process it,
which is like he's over.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
He's not having like drunk thoughts that are just coming out.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I know, he just spits it out to this drunk
girl who called him a lemur. It's so weird. So
the first time you're possibly meeting, oh.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I keep forgetting that. Did you also clock his shoes?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
No? Was it the clogs?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Oh? No, those who had have been better, Alicia, there
are these like rope sandal things. I will go get
a screenshot of them and I'll share them with you
because they are horrid.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Don't even show me. I'll hate him forever. Don't even
show me. Okay, let's cut to New York City. We
got Lindsay. She's in her apartment now and she's saging
the apartment for the baby. But the sage smells like weed,
so hopefully it is. Oh god. This apartment, though, has
seen a lot of shit, and Lindsay did debate moving out,

(57:50):
but she learned if you eliminate the bad energy, then
the apartment's fine.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Okay, I don't think I could ever stay there, not
just be because she lived there with her an ax Like,
That's not what it is for me. It's you guys
fought so much in that place and he literally broke
up with you in the corner in that living room.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
No, but if you get a good apartment you can
afford in New York City, you gotta afford a different apartment. Sorry,
this is it, and she's close to Turner. I think
this is it.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
She has the means to find a new apartment. I
just couldn't do it. I couldn't do it pregnant like
her resigning that least again is what's kind of crazy
to me, Like, I just this is not a shame thing.
I just could not bring my own child to that apartment.
Knowing all the history, I could do it.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I knowing New York, pri I could do it.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Is it a New York thing? So like in any
other city, would you move? Like say you were here
in Chicago and something like that happened where it's it's
not the same, or like you're in some random town
in the US, would you move?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I think it depends because my current New York apartment
is rent stabilized, so even if someone died here, like
I'm staying forever.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yes, but I'm saying outside of New York, take the
New York and now because I buy it as it rented, No,
it is rented.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I feel like, are you more inclined to move, because
like it's.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
The New York thing. I would be a little more
inclined to move. This is also a nice apartment, dude.
If I can afford it, I'm gonna stay there. I'm
gonna stay. I know, I just a neighborhood. No, she's
got that balcony. No, that balcony. No, I gotta stay
at this part. If it's this See, it depends if
you're giving me my crappy ass Chicago apartments, I'm fucking

(59:36):
moving with. If this is my apartment, it is.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
It is a lot easier to put the bad ju
jew out of my mind with New York City, you know,
renting chaos and an amazing apartment.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Like that beautiful balcony. Yeah, pus she got rid of
We'll go into it. But I would have to completely redecorate. Yeah,
oh of course, which she's doing, which is amazing. But
Lindsay is uh, stress free. She doesn't give a fuck.
You know, she's enjoying the last summer before she becomes
a mom. And then we call aunt Ronda.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Ar baby, it's been years, way too long, ar way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Too way too long. So Lindsay's like, hey, I got
rid of the bad vibees. Couch an't rondo, which is
the couch she got dumb done, which I was like,
get the bad vibes out, girl.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
I died laughing because I was like, oh my god.
When I was thinking about the apartment, I didn't really
think because I was just like, get out of there
and taldy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
But I was like, oh my god, I didn't even
notice the couch change. The best part of it, the
best part of this is that you kick your ex
out and then you're like, I guess I'll sell the couch.
I'll make the money and I'll go buy it. And
she offered it to him. No, he ended the No,
he ended the relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I guess, I guess why would he want the why
would you want this couch?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Also, I'd be like, I just I would like shit
in it or something, and be like, now you can
take it. Like I would be petty like that. You're
not gonna take the couch. You don't. We didn't get
the deposit back for the wedding troue. You dumb me.
This is true. I get all the furniture. Sorry, okay,
you go open your soft bar make money off that.
I'll be doing this. But Ar is so happy for Lindsay,

(01:01:27):
She's so proud of her. And then Lindsay still has
a hard time looking Carl in his eyes, but she
has no famo missing this dumb party he's throwing, which
she claims ownership for the name ship wrecks her idea.
Oh petty, little Lindsay, here we are. Yeah, petty, I
I am the definition of petty. I love when other

(01:01:49):
people are.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Paying like that man has no creative ideas. And I
was like, you are not wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You're not wrong, girl, go off. I love when it's
petty about like nothing to like if you were me
and petty, that's crazy. I love this pettiness of like
I won't even give him credit for the name of
his party, for a shipwrecked thing that is truly boring.
And she's getting pregnant in Hit the Bad he Baby
My God, and Ar does say she's happy Carl and

(01:02:19):
Lindsay aren't together, which I was like, damn ay are.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
It's wild how like I think we're just all on
the same page, but at the same time we just
everybody just like to adult making a decision for Lindsay's happiness,
like yoh, But now that it's done, everybody's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Like, yeah, no, I didn't want that to happen. Everybody
fucking hates Carl, which says a lot because Aar is
my favorite summer house cameo and like she was around
for years, so like she knew Carl. Carl, she's probably
around for the ban finger bang, stop, Why do we
have to bring that up? Never forget Okay, back to
the Hamptons. We get no timestamp, but the party ray

(01:03:01):
Jesse ripped his pants from dancing too hard, and then
Wes asked Jesse how the combo with Sierra went, and
Jesse says that he wanted to defend Wes's honor, but
Sierra kept going back on how Wes used her, so
there's no way the trio was getting back together. And
Wes knows that Sierra sees him similar as the way

(01:03:24):
she like sees Austin In like this, you make me
like you and you screw me over a type thing,
But Wes doesn't think he used Sierra. And then Jesse says, like,
how would you feel if Siera was dating someone else?
And Wes says he'd be relieved.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Which I yeah, because I think then it's like, okay,
she's officially moved on from this. That is a signal
with anybody like x's type thing, you're like, all right,
we're done here. Yeah, like chapter officially closed. But I
think Austin did her dirty on her feelings. But Wes
is doing her dirty on her like ego and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Else that's true, and West won't just like let it
die well, like again West wants he keeps having to
defend himself to like no one, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Know, keeps doing stuff. She's frustrated, and then when the
dust settles, it's not settled enough in the ways that
West and Jesse want, like they're not getting the outcome
they want, like as if they deserve anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah. So then cut to Page and Sierra in Page's room.
This party was really draining for Paige. Page tells Sierra
about the Australian restaurant dinner Combo because if you remember,
that might have been three episodes ago, two episodes ago,
but it it was just earlier this week. It was

(01:04:45):
like two days ago. It was on Thursday and it's Saturday,
like literally could go off. But it's about like, you know, help,
Craig wants to be a priority, and Page feels like
Craig gets his feelings. When Page is shining and Sarah
kind of looks at herd as like Page, and Page goes,

(01:05:05):
I know, and I was like yo, and then Sarah goes,
I'm not gonna tell you again, which damn we've had
this combo. Yeah, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Feel like Siah's specifically not doing it on camera because
she's protecting her friend who's in a relationship and inadvertently
like protecting Craig, like protecting the relationship from not having
this conversation on camera.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
But clearly Sarah has aired her feelings out of it. Well.
I don't know if you saw it, but at one
point Siarah had Craig's laptop and covered her face from
the camera.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I don't think that actually was something because sometimes when
I'm holding like my laptop or something, like you're messing
with it in a weird way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I think that was just I thought it looked a
little suspicious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I because Paige was like talking to her about something normal.
If they'd given us a weird cut of like pages back,
and it felt like it was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Like ghost lines.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, and like if it was Siarah talking like her
lines while her face was covered, I would think that
something's fishy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
But I think it was probably just Siah's like facial
expressions she wanted to hide. I got the vibe of
like this obviously hasn't been really like talked to this
extent on camera before, so I don't think Sarah knew
where this was going to go, so I think she
wanted to like fully hide everything for her so that

(01:06:26):
she could just take Page's lead because it is Page's thing.
So I think she was just maybe hiding, and then
when Page like became more open, she like put it
down and was like, Okay, we're gonna have this gumbo.
Then we're doing it on camera either way. So when
they got home from the Australian restaurant, this is so fucked.

(01:06:47):
Craig told Paige that on camera he's not going to
say that Page is way busier than he is and
that her shit is bigger than his, and Siarah immediately
is like, no, I liked so gross. And when Craig asked,
or when Page asked Craig like why he said that

(01:07:08):
would be negative and Page's like, for him, it would
have been met negative, like if he would have said that,
it would have validated me, which.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
If he would have said that in the context of
them figuring out how to make their relationship work, like
you're busier than me. I think the way he's saying
it's negative is that like he looks less than he
looks submissive, he looks this, not like, oh, it looks
bad that he's you know, trying to figure out when
she could come to him still, because I still think
Paige should come to him once or twice in Turtleston

(01:07:42):
during her tour, like they should try to make it
work where like she could come to him at some point,
but he would maybe do seventy five percent of the
like traveling to her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Well, I think it's the thing of like Craig doesn't
really have anything going on right now in the sense
that's like making news and like making big headlines. Right,
so it's again Paige shining and he's not even gonna
admit that on camera to her or like to or
for her or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Noho's like this need to be like the breadwinner. They're
like more important one because why is it about that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
I think too? On camera? Right, We've been having this
conversation forever, it feels like, but it's always like, oh,
Page doesn't have time for crag Page never goes to
visit crag Page is so busy, right, like, oh, but
it's always we always get like the poor crag, poor Craig.
And then behind cameras he's like, I wasn't gonna say

(01:08:35):
that though, and pages like but that would have validated me,
and like when Page defends herself in these situations and
there are haters that don't listen, like Craig could have
easily validated is you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Were serving her up to the wolves of ye shows
that hate Page.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Yes, without a just so you could have a few
more fans on your side. You might not want to
cheat on her crag, but you she certainly don't like her.
It is wild.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
This is I really don't think outside of just like
the southernness, like toxic masculinity. I don't think it makes
him look bad to be like you are really busy,
Like how do we figure this out? Because you are busy,
that's an okay conversation to have. It's that you are
not acknowledging she's the busy one. You're just saying like

(01:09:24):
she's the problem, because like that, you're making it seem
like you are both busy and she's making your relationship
not work or not willing to put in the effort
because she's going on tour when it's you who's not
willing to make the effort, or you're not saying that
you'll make the effort and go above and beyond in
ways and step up in ways that she can't right now.

(01:09:44):
And instead you're making it look like she doesn't want
to see you and she would rather go on tour.
You're hurting her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
No, literally, this is a situation of he may love her,
but he doesn't like her. Why do we always get
to this point with these men on Bravo? They because
they ever, they just can't take the l or they
can't ever just it's not an L though. That's the
craziest part. That's what it is. That's the craziest part. Crazy.
It's like it's not now, but like Craig refuses to

(01:10:15):
give more than fifty percent, like in this relationship right
like he thinks Page needs to meet him at fifty percent.
But the other thing is, from what we've seen as
far as like travel goes, it does seem like for
a while Page would travel a lot more and they've
acknowledged that. So I don't understand why Craig can't like
reciprocate that. And maybe it's also like I hate to

(01:10:36):
bring this into it, but public perception I think plays
a big part for a lot of these men, because
you know, the saying where it's like a woman's greatest
fear is to be murdered, but a man's greatest A
man's greatest fear is to be embarrassed. Oh my god. Yeah,
so that's why I want to deal to deal with
toxic men. You embarrass them. That's why when women call
men like short or ugli or fat or balding, they

(01:10:59):
get really really mad and they can't function because like
they're they can't be embarrassed, Whereas like men put women down,
like the being called a liar by Kyler. Yeah, like
and he lost his shit, right Like, but like truly,
women don't care when you call them names. Right, Craig
calls Lindsay a loser and Lindsay walks away like okay,

(01:11:19):
But Craig gets called a liar and he cries for
it'll replain his mind the rest ever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Yeah, So I also think public perception of like Craig
doesn't want to be embarrassed in his relationship. He doesn't
want to look submissive. He doesn't want to seem like
he's he's giving more to a girl to a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Because like we're dealing with that outside of the relationship
with West and Sierra too, like West is so concerned
about the public public perception rather than the person involved
in it, and like Craig is so concerned about public perception,
the negative public perception of like Page being the busier
one versus like them actually working this relationship out for them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
A man's greatest fear is to be embarrassed, and this
is what loses her then fucking gets him self esteem.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
No, I agree, I just I don't think Craig realizes
that like you lost it, you slowly are losing her
because you're unwilling to do more than fifty percent or.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
To like he's unwilling to He's unwilling to let her
out of her cage while he has to stay back.
He's unwilling to not be an equal and have her
maybe be a little ahead of him. And that's the
craziest part is like in relationships, sometimes one person's a
winner and one person's not. But that can switch it.
But I think you shouldn't even think about it like that.

(01:12:44):
That's like I know winners enough, loser, I know, but
I'm trying to put on the public perception of like, Yes,
in a perspective, one person might be like winning at
life and the other person might seem like they're not
winning at life. But the scale can change at any time, right,
Craig could open up a new story anytime and like, wow,
we're winning now, and like Page isn't doing anything right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
You can always it can always your thing. And I'm
not saying you think like this, but what he's thinking
is it's they're mutually exclusive, Like only one person can
be winning, only one And so if he acknowledges that
she is on top, that means he's on bottom. And yes,
he's refusing to let her be on top.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
The only way she can be on top is with him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Is by his side because like he allows her to
step up to his pedestal.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Well because they're a team. So like if he wins,
she can also then win. But he's feeling like in
this situation, I mean, it's crazy, the insecurity is crazy,
but I think that's what it is. Listen, I've done
a lot of not research, but I've I've been studying
shitty men for a long time now, and I truly

(01:13:55):
know and I live by A woman's greatest fear is
to be murdered. A man's greatest fear is to be embarrassed,
and that is how you deal with shit, he meant,
and Craig is currently embarrassed and that is why he
is acting out so terribly. It just I'm embarrassed for him.
Now when we watch these shows, I'm literally gonna be like,
he's embarrassed. That's why he's acting this way. Call it

(01:14:17):
out is being embarrassed. So Page is like, am I
dating a secret hater? Yes, he doesn't like you, And
Sierra literally was like, dude, he is a hater. Like
She's like, yes, no questions asked, one hundred and Sierra
tells us like Paige shouldn't have to well because obviously

(01:14:38):
Page shouldn't have to pay for lacks or Craig's lack
of self confidence, his lack of self esteem, and that's
all on him. And Sierra has had this conversation with
Page before and it always becomes like the Craig Show,
like we always just again, he has to be on top,
he has to be the shining star, and the only
way Page can shine is with him or because of him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
This is like the first time she probably like is
like it, fully accepting it because she's putting it on
camera and slowly letting the public perception and the embarrassment
set in, Like she's not she's not willing to protect
him anymore, and this is as like this is the
moment their foundation is really crumbling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I will say, I think in terms of like the situation,
whether it's not like a public skiale or not, you
need people to wholeheartedly go to bat for you. And
that's why it's so important to like support women. I
think so. I truly think if Paige didn't have the
backing she did, right, she would quite if she didn't
have Hannah being like, dude, we're doing this tour. If
she didn't have Sierra, like you're dating a hater, I

(01:15:40):
don't think Page would have had the I don't want
to say self confidence, but like the she wouldn't have
let the push to like look at her relationship from
different eyes, right because it's been three years. She loves Craig,
she's in her thirties, he's in as close to forties
at this point as far as we know, like to
start over is scary, but like also she's probably looking

(01:16:01):
at Hannah and her relationship and that could be different.
She could be seeing like an actual supportive partner in
the same situation she is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
That's so true because I do believe that Does and
Hannah probably have a really good relationship in supporting each
other's careers because they both Hannah does tours on her own.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
With comedy, so like they do tours too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Yeah, yeah, is not anything crazy, yeah for Hannah's side.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Of it, And I think it's really rare. Get you
see your situation mirrored, right, so to see like, Okay,
Does and Hannah they're supportive. Why can't Craig be supportive
of me? Why does Greg need all this attention? And
I think that's why. Like, it's also important to support
your girlfriends, right, Like the way Page supported Amanda is
a great example on TV. But like just from like

(01:16:50):
this happens all the fucking time, and I'm a big believer.
Like I'm gonna watch your man so close. I don't
trust any of y'all's men. If you're my friend listening
to this, I'm like your man. But by no means
do I have loyalty tea to him? Okay, he's ready,
yeah to discuss it. I have all the details too,
I've been clocking it. I'm cera. I'm going I've told

(01:17:11):
you he's a hater. I've told you that. Yeah. Fuck yeah,
fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Also, I think this informs why people said, like, oh, Page.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Moved on so quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Women typically slowly ease out of relationships before they end it,
like they are just not interested and it's slowly dying
for them, whereas for men, it's a shock when it
happens and then they start easing out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Well, that's why men tend to backslide a little more
even if they end the relationship right, because they kind
of do it like what's it called, like kind of
like by this, like like without thinking, like very un
like irrationally. They just do it because like maybe something
went wrong or they got the ick, and they'll like
end it on that, whereas women break up with you

(01:17:52):
before you know, and they've just been thinking about it
for mo Page has paid. This has been spewing for
Page because women are less likely to act on emotion
that way. But we were so emotional. No, we think
about it, We think of all the things we wear,
options we know this is the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
I think you also give time and space for things
to like be different, Like what if this was just
an emotional reaction this summer, and he actually is supportive
during the tour, like tied him out second and third chances,
and so I bet she like let him have his
space to try and be a supportive partner. And when
he when he wasn't, she's like, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
There you go. Well, Sierra says to Page. She's like, dude,
if your mom heard you right now, and Page goes,
I know she'd kill me, which is also listen if
my mom tells me no, I'm listening. I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Also telling because I bet she hasn't told her parents
about the Craig stuff because she doesn't want it's hard
to put it back in the bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Yeah, So, and then Craig walks into the room. So
it's seven nine pm. It's been about an hour we're
in fifteen minutes or two hours and fifteen minutes since
this party started. So Lil is doing the worm for Carl.
Oh my god. And then he tries to do a

(01:19:10):
handstand for her, but he falls.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
The dick I had watching these two, both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Craig finds Page and Sierre in bed, and then Amanda
finds them. Craig goes to find his phone but Amanda's like, hey,
we got to participate in the party, and Page and
Sier are like, no, we don't. And then Lil and
Craig are break dancing in the did you see that
in the background they're break dancing. Okay, so Craig has
left the room. Paige, Amanda, and Sierra are hanging out

(01:19:41):
and Amana is like, what you guys talking about because
she she doesn't know she's she's drunk and she's got
chicken and chicken Tendi's in her hand. And Paige's like,
we were talking about the Craig thing I was telling
you about, and then cut back outside to Craig and Lil.
Lil's parents are here to pick her up. Carl, you
keep seeing Craig. That's I was like, Craig and Lil
break dancing. Sorry, it was Carl and Lil too many

(01:20:05):
the coaka because okay, yeah, Carl walks Lil out to
meet Oh this was I arg this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
No shade of her parents picking her up, because like,
my parents still did this, stay will pick me up
from places. But it's just so funny because it reminded
me that like Carl met her through her parents.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
So it's like he's also he's seeing them again with
guyliner on which was and they commented on it. Yes,
my dad would be like, who's that fucking loser?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
I would not have this guy walk me out? If
this is like the vibes were under, I'd be like,
meet me at the gate. I'll see you in a
little bit, leave me alone, my dad would. I don't
need to be like that buffoon. Okay, it's so it's
eight twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
The party continues. I want to be clear. We started
at eight twenty seven or at five twenty seven, so
it's been three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
We're just slowly ticking by. It's like watching paint dry
for Alicia.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
No. Literally, So Jesse and Sierra they're dancing together. It's
hot dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
I was like, I was like, stop but keep going, dance,
but keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Amanda clocks Jesse and Sierra immediately, and he's pomped about it.
She's like, they're not just friends, there's an attraction. They
get Page on it, Kyle's there. Everyone, Oh, we're fucking
enjoying it. So Sierra kicks everyone out for the party,
and then Amanda, Page and Cracker are like, we got
to investigate the vibes. So it's time to debrief for

(01:21:47):
the party. So Jesse sits near Sierra and puts her
feet on his lap. I'm sure she was lying down
and he was like, you're just give me a space.
And Paige was like, Jesse, put put the feet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
In your mind, They're like, suck her toes. Why is
the theme of this episode sucking toes?

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Why is that sexy? It's not not. We didn't just
like wake up and like shower. We didn't like go
get our nails done and they're all clean. We've been
on that gross ass blue tarp all day. Toad sucking
is not hot, even with clean, clean feet. It really
gives Jack Staylor and you gotta stop stop, you gotta

(01:22:27):
stop it. Amanda finds Wes outside by himself. Wes is
annoyed because he's been so polite and nice and Siara
is still not okay with him, and he's sad to
think that Siara thinks he used her, which it would
have been more compelling if he started with that if

(01:22:48):
he was like, it's sad that she thinks that and
said He's like, I'm annoyed because I've been polite and
stuff and she's still.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Not bothered me so much, because so what you're telling
me is you were only polite, so then she would
be friendly to you, so you would get something out
of it. And so you're probably gonna stop being polite
and stop being kind. And it's all situational, like you're
only doing something to get something in return, which is
so gross crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
He says that Sierra needs to stop saying to people
or saying that to people, and he's gone this whole
time without saying anything rude and he can't keep going
on like this because she's shitting on him to everyone.
I was like, no, Jesse Solomon asked specifically about yeah,

(01:23:37):
and she said, this is why I can't be friends
with him, because I think he used me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Jesse's causing more harm than good overall. But also she's
not telling everybody, and if that's how she feels, I
don't believe Wes went into the summer trying to use
her into all this stuff, but I think she feels used.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
I don't think he really used her. I think she
just yeah feel I think it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Just was an unfortunate situationship. He didn't end up wanting
what he kind of promised, and It's a classic terrible situation.
He wasn't great, but she feels used, And if that's
how she feels, then you need to build back the
trust with her because she doesn't trust you, She doesn't
want to be friends with you. She wants nothing from
you because she feels that way. So how about you

(01:24:24):
put the ball back in your court on resolving things
or accepting what she will give you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Go off, queen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I'm just so tired of this storyline from him. I'm
so tired of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
A man who basically, you know, she tries obviously to
stick up for Siara and says like Siara's was hurt
by this and she was blinded by all of it,
including the New York Times article, and Wes says he
gets it, but stop telling people that he used her.
He just didn't want to date her, and he doesn't
need to be a villain, so stop. Oh my god,

(01:24:57):
the poor me from these stud hoopen men. Man's greatest
fear is to be embarrassed. He should be embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
I want to just I want to drop kick every
single hand on his cast right now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
No, literally, there's not one I would lay standing. One
person I like right now So it's nine point fifty
one pm. Jesse goes to FaceTime Lexi while he peas
Craig wants to talk, but Page just wants to run
on her phone. I've found this hilarious. She's like, Hey,
where's your phone, get on it and lie down.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
And he's like, Wiley, I posted a posts about this,
Like all Page wants is to lay in bed with
her girls, and like screw dooms girls, she does lie
alone well to be Yeah, that show it's it doesn't
matter who's next to you. The only thing is that
you want to scroll in peace.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Oh yeah, I think Katie Maloney one says, and I
I live by this. One of the most intimate things
you can do with someone is just lie next to
them and silently scroll. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Her and Schwartz did that in the season finale, or
like that Susan finale trip, because they like missed that
intimacy and had such good I don't want to call
it chemistry, but like the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Had BEDCEM experience, they had one type of BEDCM and
it was that kind. Okay, so Jesse and Lexi are
on FaceTime. They miss each other. He oh this grossed
me out. I can I repeat this. I don't even
know if I can repeat this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Okay, before before you say it, I'm just saying I
would find this insulting a little bit, like I would
do this vombit, but don't tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
I would go ahead. He tells her he jerked off
before the party so he wouldn't miss her too bad
and it didn't work. Yuck, I would vomit. What do
you want me to say to that? Guess who's thawing
up me? Guess who's getting dumped you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Do you want an applause? Like congratulations you tried?

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
What? Yuck? Anyway, my notes, Sorry, I wrote a lot
of notes about how I wanted to throw up anyway.
Jesse or Lexi tells us that even though she's not
with Jesse, she gets constant updates, even on days where
he's not drunk, because he calls like fifty times a day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
I was like, which, that's like very mixed messages A
little bit. I would think he's obsessed with me, he's
in love with me, like page thought about, like Craig asking,
I'd say he's stalking me actual times. Okay, that's obviously
an integration.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
If you called me more than once a day. When
my mom does that, I tell her she needs to
get a life.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Yeah, the calls would be what's annoying. But even if
like you were texting me, you know, updating me about
the weekend, how the party's going, like you clearly are
thinking about it throughout the day, I would be then
confused to watch this episode back and be like, you're
flirting with Sierra all the time, like all this other
stuff is happening, You're talking about all these other women, Like,
don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
I think this is crazy for both of them them. No,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I don't want the calls personally, But if somebody was calling,
if I wanted the calls and somebody was calling me
a bunch because it seems like that's what Lexi likes, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Don't think I ever even if I like you, I
don't want this this many calls. I agree, but I
think it's what Lexi wants, So I can't relate to her.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
She's she's getting what she wants, like, she's getting the
communication she wants. She feels appreciated and wanted and desired,
and so like this is really confusing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
When she comes back, she's desired, all right, He's pleasuring himself.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
And I didn't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
That's not missing. Moving on, I got it. We gotta go,
Jesse though he this man is smashed. When I tell
you hammered doesn't even cover it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
I was like this me and can't even stand up
when he was like looking for his hat and then
he found it, like rolled back onto the bed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
But he he is. He's the drunk where you kind
of just are in your thoughts but you're not making
that much sense, but you are. And he is so
sad about what since Sierra, which I believe is a
genuine emotion. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Yeah, because he goes, can we never be like them? Yeah,
you're telling Lexi you don't see this working out, but
you both have to live in this house together.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
He says, I never want to be this way with you,
and she's like, I don't think we're them. I don't
think we're Wes Sin Sierra.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
We're not them, but also we're still kind of together
ish thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Oh that was so funny, But he doesn't know what
he's saying. He's funny, just like he just never wants
to lose friends again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Like yeah, that's where I just I understand his intentions
are pure of just like sadness over friendship, but he
is actually ruining things more.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
And then he tells Lexie that he had so much
fun with Sierra tonight. This is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
He's so drug and we know there's a conversation coming
where like LEXI learns just a lot of things. Oh next,
he's going to be interesting, oh so oh funny.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
So the boys are going out TVD on Jesse because
he can't even stand.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
But he went from like not being fine to fine
pretty quickly. And I think it's one of those things
where like you can work really hard when you're drunk
at being okay.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Yeah, but when you met Donald's and he was door
dash here or was it uber eats? Oh man, I
got this, mons are wrong. Uber Eats came with some
McDonald's and it was all good. Okay, So even Craig
goes out. All the boys are out on the town
and I was like, thank god for the boys. Where
was Gabby? Did she die? Oh? I guess so she

(01:30:34):
in the house. Still she's somewhere, I think, Kelly it's
seen her in a while. Great. I love I love
when people go out because you know what happens while
we're about to chalk again. So it's one thirty AF
and Emerald comes home with two new friends. I'm just

(01:30:55):
I'm still I want these people on camera like that.
He doesn't like this. It seemed like he does not
want them my camera. He never wants another camera because
they're not consistent. Like he said, I don't watch what
Evan's life. He did not hook up with the same
person twice on amazing. Those numbers are amazing. And so
at one fifty one am Craig is home and then

(01:31:18):
at two oh seven did they all come home together
or did they just stagger in?

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I know Jesse and West were together because Jesse struggled
with the dorm left it open for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Well, okay, so it's like I get Emerald and his
friends came home one thirty great, So then then one
is Craig. Yeah, two o seven Wes and Jesse, and
then two eighteen is Carl and Kyle.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
So I think they're all separate ubers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
You think they all like like, Craig came home and
then Wes and Jesse were. I think it's one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Things where everybody like because they can afford this too.
Me and my friends are like, we're all leaving at
the same time. We're split ubers Like. Craig's like, I'm
ready to leave, Like he doesn't know the protocol of
going out with these people. He's used to just ubering
home alone. He's like, I'm ready to be back in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
And banging.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Like he doesn't care about anybody else. Craig just wants
to be home and laying in bed with Page because
he's obsessed with her. Just insay night.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
You could convince me Craig came home separately. I think Wes, Jesse, Carl,
and Kyle all came home together, and Kyle, Kyle and
Carl just took like a ten minute long pee outside.
They walk in the door ten minutes later.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Who knows, I mean they once. I remember, I don't
know when this was. Somebody was like me and I
wish you I would have known you were leaving like
we were five minutes behind you with an.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Oh, maybe they just don't Maybe they all separate. I yeah,
I think at the bar sometimes. Okay, So yeah, two eighteen,
Carl's home, Kyle's home, We're all in the kitchen. Emerald
comes out because everyone's drunk eating, including Amanda, Amanda is
awoke and awoke in and they're all eating, drunk eating.
Emerald comes in and he's like, yo, I got two

(01:32:59):
girls in that room and it's hot as oh. Is
there a fan? And Jesse's like two girls and he's like,
yeah too, is there a fan? Like Emerald is unfazed.
Jesse's like, I can't believe someone.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Because this is so normal to Emerald that good for
Him's just like, hey, I'm here for a fan, and
everybody's like, give us the tea.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
I love it. Amanda's like two girls, she loves it.
She's like, get it, my guy. But Jesse, he really
wants to see the girls that Emerald brought back. So
as everyone starts going to bed, Jesse goes to Emerald's
room and is like, hey, Emerald, I want to see
let me in, and he walks in and it says

(01:33:40):
thirty seven minutes later he leaves and I clocked. I
was like, and he's barefoot. Literally my note is like
he's without socks. Question mark.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
I wish they would have released more like I guess
nothing happens or Brava would have given us some of
the sounds, but like thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Eight, they don't give a lot of sounds anymore, I know,
but like this one, this instance, I feel like they
would have I don't because I think it's similar to
the Love Island issue where you want to encourage the hookups,
so you don't want to do anything that would prevent
the hookups.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
And I guess this leaves it open ended for the
questions to be asked and the conversations to be happening.
Of like what happened in those thirty seven minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Thirty seven minutes? That's crazy? Do you think that was exaggerated?
Do you think it was really their No?

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I don't think Bravo plays with time like I don't
think Bravo manipulates time because I think they want to
be trusted in the time conversationline Screenshotah, because they even
did it with like Britney Over on Realhousewives of Salt
Lake City with how long she was like recording those
ladies in the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Yeah, Like I think they do try to see journalism.
We have to be honest. This isn't fake news, this
is the real shit.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
So I think I think somebody is sitting down and
clocking it. And if if it wasn't worse.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
They sat there with the watch and they were just like,
all right, well, I mean there's like the time, you know,
the timing, and they're like, everyone clock how long it takes.
The poor intern was just they were like, don't move
your eyes from this camera. You don't have to do that.
You have the time steams all that at the intern
had to be the one to count, no listening to it,

(01:35:23):
being like is there anything on? This? Is anything? Ever?
But the shot of him leaving without socks looks crazy.
He looks like a man possess. I mean they ask
him about it in the interview chair. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yes.
So everyone goes to bed. Wes falls up the stairs,
which is so hilarious. I love when people go out.

(01:35:43):
So it is now Sunday, July twenty eighth, no time
stamp again, and Emerald's new friends leave, and then the
house starts to wake up, and then Jesse tells Wes
he's like, dude, Emerald had two hikes in his bed,
and I went into that room and they invited Jesse in,

(01:36:06):
but he was like a little nervous, so he just
put his toe in and his toe got sucked and
then he left, so his toe was really pruney because
it was sucked for thirty seven minutes. No, I don't know, no, no,
but that's what he's saying. I mean, he doesn't know.
We know that it's thirty seven minutes. But if you

(01:36:27):
put in what Bravo has told us and what Jesse
has told us, he got his toes, I don't think
he has.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Sucked for the whole time because he's saying like, oh,
I went in there, and then they invited me in,
and I laid down with my head towards their feet.
My feet obviously there socks came off. I don't know
how the toe sucks happened, but I think there's a
little bit of buffer time, maybe twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Max, where we don't Oh so you think for seventeen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
They're in the refer time. Yeah, there's like weird conversation
when he walks in because I'm sure they're naked and
he's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Oh hey. We also get like a comment. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Who says it, if it's Jesse or Emerald, but it's
definitely a guy obviously because what I'm about to say,
but they say they're like dick's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
So oh yeah, I think it was Jesse, and I
thought it was Jesse too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Jesse's like joking tone too. I'm sure his dick was
getting hard, but also at the same time, I don't
think he was going to sleep with them, So.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
You don't think anything else happened.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
I would think some touching happened, but nothing like no
bases run. Really, I mean maybe first base. Maybe there
was some kissing, some like over the clothes touching. Do
you think he kissed some caressing? Maybe, but I'm not
I'm not one hundred percent convinced because I mean, you

(01:37:48):
kissing sounds I think they would have given us.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
You can't just suck it to There needs to be
some touching before you suck that well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Because of the way I'm just going off of what
he said in imagining this is that like I do
think he like came and laid down in bed ian.
I do think he laid the opposite way so I
could see them like slowly like running their hands up
his legs and like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Poor Emerald is like this guy jacked my threesome.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
No, I don't think Emerald cares. I think he's like
the more the merrier, let's go because he saidn't watch
what happens live that he's been part of a foursome
two guys, two girls, and I think they just swap partners.
So I'm sure Roll's like, let's go at it again.
Like I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
I don't totally believe that it's as innocent as Jesse's portraying.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
I think there's opportunity for more details to come out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Because he tells it. Like, right, if you're Wes and
you had no idea this was even happening, And if
Jesse told me he walked in, got his toe sucked,
and left, I'd be like, so it was it ten
minute kind of thing. He just walked in and you
were like, hey, what's up? You lied down, your toe
was sucked. That shouldn't take more than fifty minutes from
what you're.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Going know, But when you're drunk and like into it
in just like the Jesse way where he's just like curious,
he also would stick around for a little bit and
do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
That's so Jesse. I think there's a little more that
we're in you have.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Do you think we're going to get any flashbacks? Because
I feel like Bravo likes to withhold information to flash
back to it and reveal the story later. Some think
this will be revealed on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
That's the only thing that's like given thanking me give
Jesse the benefit of the doubt on this of like
telling the whole story because you known Bravo would have
done it to be continued if they could have with it.
It was really that dramatic.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Yeah, so I don't, I mean, thanks, He already asked
him on Watch what Happens Live and he was like,
nothing else happened. Emerald said nothing. But I also think
if something did happen, text would have happened immediately to
be like, we're not discussing this. And Emerald is all
about privacy on this show about sex, so.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Yeah, Emerald's own He's all about whatever you're comfortable with,
So he's if you're not comfortable with this getting out there,
it's not gonna come from Amorrong. Yeah, and there's only
two other people that know, and we don't know their names,
and I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
They wanted broadcast it either, So I really don't think
they're coming out or they would have signed out release
for him immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Exactly and I'm not gonna believe some girl on the
internet that's like I was the girl and Emerald's threesome.
So we'll never know who these girls are and so
we'll never know for sure. Not even Bravo really knows
because it was covered, so you can only go off
what you I think.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
They obviously have more information because of how many people
are moaning.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
And if it's too guys, there's like is that another
is that a third voice or is that just too
we've been listening to? Is that another man? I also
think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
Weird if like things happened between the original threesome and
Jesse's sitting there watching.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Like that just we just were do that's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Just this situation is weird. Threesome like you can do
whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Just going in is weird. It's going in for me.
It's like you already know it's so hot in there
with the dude with the one fan. You're like, let
me just make it hot at him. What the fuck?
You know what he's you know, he just took up
with both of them too, And you're like, I'm gonna
I want to go in that room. Yeah, you just

(01:41:23):
want to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
And not a good ideal with the Lexi situation, Like
I just in the home. You guys like share is
like kind of a slap in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
It was awesome, but yeah, Jesse, he's he okay. So first,
Wes is upset. He was in the kitchen the whole time.
He had no idea that this was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
A would have never gone in he knew there was
a threesome happening, he would have never gone in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
No, he wouldn't have because when Jesse was first going in,
it looked like he was doing it to be a menace.
It didn't look like he was going to like join,
you know. It looked like no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
And I think West is like sweet little Western boy
at heart that he's like I don't need to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
He talks to the game or he's like a threesome
would be cool, but then a four some shows up
and he's like, I don't know, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
I think in the privacy of his own life, like
maybe he would have gone on here, but like knowing
you're like filmed, I do think he has like boundaries
of like things and he wants his parents to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
Yeah, I agreed. So the producer is the one that's like,
so where were your socks? And Jesse's like, I wasn't
wearing socks when I went in, and they were like,
yeah you were, And so we do know what happened
to his sucks. One of the girls both got a
souvenir baby. They took his sock. Gross, So it's time
for the pool. Everyone's feeling nauseous this morning. Jesse tells

(01:42:42):
the house that Emerald had a threesome and Jesse got
his toe sucks and they were like, did you join?
And He's like, no, no, no, Lexi's better than a foursome.
He says he didn't even consider joining. It's not an option. Yeah, right,
Even if you didn't want to go, you'd be like,

(01:43:04):
but what random if it's in front of you, you'd
be like, but what if I was there? Even if
you don't want it, you would think it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
If you were the person who's going to go into
the room. Anyways, your thought is crossing your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Yeah, you're thinking about it. So that's where we leave
off there. Well, really quickly with Emerald, can I say
some beef? Ooh you beef?

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
It's just kind of frustrating me that, like everything is
like off camera with him, there's like no conversations, Like
there's conversations about something happening, but it's in this such
a like cloaked way that I'm like, I don't enjoy
this as a storyline because it's like half a storyline.
It's the same thing when like fights happen off camera,
Like it's just not holistically a storyline for me, and

(01:43:47):
so I'm kind of getting frustrated with it. It's not
as fun as like the storyline of people like going
out and hooking up with people like don't come home then,
like if your people are not signing releases and you're
not really going to talk about it, and it's just like,
oh I did this and it's a period and that's
where it ends. There's not really a conversation. It's kind
of frustrating.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
I have to disagree with you, like wholeheartedly. I don't
think it is a storyline because it won't ever go anywhere.
He's never going to see these people again, So why
is he going to keep talking about it more than
like like, oh I had a threesome. Where do you
go from there? Like you explain how that works to people?
Like You're never gonna see the it would be different
if like when just when Linday used to go out

(01:44:29):
and she would like meet a guy, right she met payment.
He came and he was around and she looked with him.
But that, like I one, is what I'm saying, So
like Emerald's working for me. He's not that guy. He's
never gonna no.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
But that's what I'm saying is like I don't like
him as a cast member as much as like I
thought I would for him being this like swab guy
who's getting all these girls. Like, while that's something I want,
I want it to be a full storyline. This is
like half of account. I disagree. I think he's a
great b character where he he brings some sort of
drama in the sense of like, right now we have

(01:45:04):
this threesome that Jesse like did or didn't get in
the middle of, and like it was so funny to watch.
It's almost it's to me just it's equivalent to the
drunk food right, It's not a big thing, but to
me it's funny when like Emerald's like, yeah, I hooked
up with another girl and all the other guys.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Are like how are you doing this? And they are
like this dude is like pulling game and I don't
even know it because I've never seen him pull a game.
But there's something super alluring about that. And it's not
a full storyline and it will never be because Emerald
has made it so clear he's not gonna date these
people are not going to be on camera, So like,
that's okay. I'm gonna take it for what it is,

(01:45:43):
and I enjoy that the other housemates cannot fathom that,
like someone else is doing these things.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
I think the threesome worked because another customber also got involved,
but it ends up just being this like separate thing
that's happening that it feels like Emerald is like renting
a room from the house because he does it feel
always connected to the rest of the group.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
I think that's just because he's new and he doesn't
necessarily get in the drama. Right, He's equivalent to a
Gabby who's really not around. Right. You would have the
same issue with Gabby, Right, But the reason we like
Gabby is because is more involved with the rest of
the house. Though, well, but she's been here a few years. Yeah,
you have to give her the benefit of the doubt.

(01:46:23):
But my point is, like The only thing we've seen
from Gabby so far this year is that she is
friends with Lindsay and she also goes out right. The
only thing we've seen from Emerald is he is a
lot of people. He's yeah, he's hooking up with a
lot of people, and it's like kind of interesting his
backstory from that. He's from Bangladesh, right, Like those are
interesting things. But like I expect more of Gabby because

(01:46:45):
she's been here for fucking years. I think emeral will
make a great b character. I think it gives us
a little fun thing to talk about. I think it
like makes the boys a little like how does he
do that? And like they like talking about it. I
like the idea that Wes and Jesse not fathom that
like this, they couldnot bring a girl home to save
their lives, and this man does it without even fucking trying.

(01:47:06):
He brings too home, Like I don't think I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
That they realize he's not getting these people's signatures and
this isn't him on TV, which is that they're like, like, damn,
I didn't even think I could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Well, Emeralds. That's what the thing is, though Emerald must
have done his research too, because I would fucking do
that if I was on a show, I would be
really careful about who I'm bringing in, how I'm acting,
because I've seen it for so long. So I have
to give Emeralds some props. I don't mind him as
a b character so far. You also have to take
into consideration, Meredith, the way this season is cut is terrible.

(01:47:40):
He spent twelve hours on the same two fights we've
been talking about for two episodes. I just think I'm
just not even given a chance to show.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
He's like being a scapegoat too, like right now, because
I mean, he may be having the conversations and it's
just being cut. So it's not like I'm mad at
him necessarily. I'm mad at him in the character that
they're putting him in this show. Oh I need more
from him, not him specifically, I mean some of him, but.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
I mean I got to give to him. He's the
one that's always going out, He's down to go. He
has a conversation piece. You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I think it's just they're not showing the conversation of
him integrating into the cast, and I don't think there's
been a lot of moments because it's been such a
snail pace of a season.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
It's been snail pace and for three episodes now we
have dealt with the spirits issue. Yeah, that no one
literally cares about.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Me and the fallout of like Craigan Page conversation at
the Australian Restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
That's the other problem with having lifetimers on these fucking
shows is the drama is so deep. We got to
talk about all these.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
Things, the lore you think we want to see it with,
Like in Southern Charm, Craig comes in blah blah blah,
Whereas like when it was new, they didn't have that,
So we did have to sit down and be like, so, Emerald,
what was it like coming to the States?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Like tell us about that, Like, we don't get those
natural things anymore. And I think it's hard for new
people to come in. Bailey didn't make it and that
might have been her own fault, but that she was
dating somebody so they didn't want her on the show. Yeah,
and then Lexi just like hooked her claws into Jesse.
So like Emerald is on that and Emerald doesn't have

(01:49:16):
anyone to build off with, right, there's no other newbies
for him to build with. So I think for Emerald,
it's a hard fucking situation. What we need or what
I need.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
I need them to actually film a night out where
like I see Emerald, even if he's not like finding
his girl and she's on camera or not, but like
him partying and being out, because I feel like that's
like his persona. We haven't done a group dinner out,
we haven't like gone out together it's actually filmed, Like
we're missing out on that, and I think that's his
like side of this show. And so it just is

(01:49:49):
like an imaginary thing because they go out, we don't
see it, and he comes back and it's like that's
what he's here for us, that's to bring the girls back.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
That's truly the problem with having an episode that covers
twelve hours. Yeah, like we just don't get anything from
other characters we did. I thought Gabby might have died.
We didn't really see Emerald Lexi wasn't even here. Instead,
I had to watch like this girl Lil do the
worm when like in reality, I would rather watch Emerald
talk to Rando's and see like what his game is, right,

(01:50:18):
even if it's similar to that of what's his name
on Winter House Brian, where he compares them to like
animated characters, like just show me what it is. That's
funny to me. Yeah, But I also don't think Emerald
is like a funny per like funny in the sense
of like he's gonna do dumb shit. I think he's
very like sophisticated in the way he presents himself. But

(01:50:41):
I do want to I do think he could hold
his own at a dinner. I would love to see
him at a dinner. But we just we didn't even
have dinner tonight because we were at the same party
we were last twelve hours. Yeh, literally the anger I feel.
We get the mid season tray for Summer House. We

(01:51:01):
party more, we play some kickball. The boys trout that
that cramp machine that to see what girls have to
deal with, which I would just like to say, I
have really bad cramps right now. But guess who did
this whole episode without complaining. It's me. I've done those
and it's really not that bad. No. If you watch
videos of it, girls will like hit ten and they're like, yeah,
this is like my day two of period.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
And then it's either because like your whole body is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
Like spasming a little Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Where's like just a little bit of electricity running through
one piece of your body?

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Okay, yeah, And the guys at like Level three are
like buckled over and they're like this is the worst thing,
and the girls are like, that's not I don't even
feel that crazy, Like the shock of it just starting,
like the zapping of you is what hurts, not the
actual thing. Hilarious. Lindsay is terrified for labor. Tom Schwartz
is here, Uh, Kyle wants kids, but now Amanda is

(01:51:57):
debating it. Lexi finds out Jesse got his toe sucked.
Paige has to do what's best for her. Lil and
Carl apparently have been messaging since last summer, and Lindsay's
gonna call him out on it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
I can't wait for that conversation because I don't know
how I'm gonna go. I don't know what the evidence is. Well,
he met her parents last summer, and so I think
they think like, oh, Carl was cheating on Lindsay, and
it's like, okay, you can also in October they did,
but Carl met the parents last summer, So I'm like,

(01:52:31):
this is not a smoking gun here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
We don't know. Parents, we don't know. I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
It's when he started texting lil Is like the and
like what context is the problem?

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
I'm here for my girl, have house, but going to
a soccer game is not cheating. After this man wore
green clogs, I'll never trust him again. Lexi is coming
for Jesse is Wes the liar. Carl has a crush
on Sierra, which is gonna That's why wild. That was
the shocking part of this thing. I don't know what

(01:53:02):
I'm gonna do when that happens. Oh, I don't want
to watch it anyway. Sierra is hating on Emerald bringing
girls home, which that I also find rude the way
she said it. Yeah, I think if he's being disrespectful
about it. But it seems like they don't even meet
these girls.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Well, I understand a slight frustration of like, it is
just a revolving door here, so it's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Not your revolving door. Well it is because she lives there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Well, he lives there too, I know, I know, but
this is one of the conflicts of like living together.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Yeah, and the vibes are very different in this house.
This is gonna be like a house. This is like
a real world conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
It has been years since stuff like this has happened,
So this is a jarring experience for this house.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Sorry, the house is celibate, and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
I know I'm just saying I understand why she's like that,
but also it is his house too, like you said.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Also, who cares you even see him to take your food?
That piss me off. If they're like taking your food, I.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Would want to just know what's going on, like one
of these girls, are they just walking straight out?

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Like yeah? And then we have an anti Jesse Solomon
campaign and then Paige and Craig break up. Hell yeah,
I can't wait for that. Okay, let's do fun, not fun, Meredith,
Who's You're not fun? I gotta go. This is hard.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
I want to pick Craig again. I just want to
put that out there, and I know I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Not around too. I almost wrote him down.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
No, but I'm gonna go Kyle. I'm just over this drama.
He's so fucking emotional. I can't stop making your business
my problem.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Stop. I would also love to pick Craig, but I'm
gonna go Wes for also being an embarrassed man who
can't handle it. Okay, who's your fun? Okay, this is
super toxic of me. But Jesse I had such.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
A boss watching him, him and Sierra, like the drama
that's about to unfold.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
I'm like, hell, yeah, this is fun? Yeah? Is that?
I'm trying to think? Who did I enjoy? I mean,
I gotta give it to Sierra. I thought Sierra was
a lot of fun. She's she's hanging out, she's having
a good time, she's not getting her Tosa well, and
she's even like having the conversations with Paige and like

(01:55:26):
bringing that. Yeah, she's a good fucking friend. I give
it to Sierra. Okay, Well, bad episode. We have some
thoughts from the Patreon to share. Megan d says Jesse
flirting with Sierra was cringe. Also, him trying to force
Sierra and West to be bestie's is also annoying. Check
Kyle and Craig both annoy me. Kyle is acting like

(01:55:49):
everyone wants to invest and how this is his entire life,
when if it was, he could have reached out to
all of his quote Bravo friends and spread the word
about how he's open to investors and use that as
more marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Or even even influencers, like just campaigns because this started
the Craig things started as just a promo campaign and
like drink.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
Yeah. I don't even think Craig does much with them anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
You know, he's an investor now, like it's it's leveled
up slowly.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
Oh yeah for him, who cares? Amanda is great. Talking
to Wes. Wes is annoying, not realizing he made himself
the villain. He fumbled the biggest bag ever and someone
he did it worse than Austin. And that's saying a lot.
I don't know if he did it. I mean a
little bit, because he won't it differently, he won't shut

(01:56:39):
up about it. True, I kind of forgot Gamby was there.
Thank you. Our Lexi and Jesse dating in real life.
His actions on the show and his confessionals give different vibes.
I don't think it's because I think they dated through September.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
On Watch What Happens Live, at least in present day.
I really don't think so, because on Watch What Happens Live,
Andy asked like, oh, has Lexi seen the episode? And
Jesse was like, I don't know, Like if they were dating,
they would have they get the they get the teaser
like he was gonna be on Watch What Happens Live.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
They would have discussed it. Weird. The door on Summer
House is hilarious. The penis fan, Oh my god, we
didn't talk about that. When when Emerald grabs the fan,
Carl's like, enjoy your penis fan? Something that was funny,
but so funny. Someone tell me how much how Emerald

(01:57:32):
has this much game? I've seen this in movies, but
no in real life. No. I just want a good
seven minutes of him spitting game on this. That's a thing.
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
That's also why I want. I want the holistic moment.
I want to watch him. It doesn't have to be
every one of them, but I need a moment of
him being out and about hitting on a girl in
her coming home.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
I gotta see him speaking. I don't even need a name.
Just give me. You can blur her face, the back
of her head. Yeah, just I gotta see. I gotta
see him speaking. Carl trying to date is awkward. And
I think I've said this before, but Page can do
no wrong, and Craig and Page should have broken up
a while ago. I agree. I think I can't remember.

(01:58:14):
I know I was excited about it at first. May
I just say though, I have a lot of friends
who listen to Gigily Squad but do not watch Bravo
which and there when Craig and Page broke up, I
think I texted Meredith like, oh my god. But immediately
I was like, we knew it was coming. My friends,
who are just gigglers, were like, I'm so sad, how

(01:58:35):
could this happen? And I straight up was like, no,
fuck Craig, like I already know it's his fucking issue,
but I'm still like, oh damn, you know. But well
then my friends listened to when she talked on gaily
Squad and they were like, oh, it's just like they
grew apart, like blah, and I literally went, no, if
you watch these shows so different, fucking no dude, anyway,

(01:58:59):
Lindsay R says, oh, she also liked the Enjoyer Penis
fan comment. Okay, but Lindsay says, messy Jesse is my
new nickname for him flirting with Sierra, and while Lexie's
away getting his toe sucked by a random girl, I
like Messy Jesse. We'll have it stay, I know, but
now I want like Lexi to be out of the
house all the time. This Jesse was incredible with so

(01:59:20):
much more fun. Wes bitch to Amanda was crazy. He's mad.
She made one little comment to Jesse about him using her,
but she can't still be mad. He went to the
fucking New York Times and told the whole world he
didn't like her. He needs to just stick with being

(01:59:42):
funny and stop whining.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
I mean, it's I mean a classic that they don't
they aren't willing to give.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
And last comment from Lindsay is I really like Lindsay's
hair in the im The darker blonde suits her so well.
Cue her mom hair. It's her mom there. Great those
were all of our comments. Thank you so much for
like responding back to me. I know Meredith for a
little bit try to like do her thing, and it
never worked on this podcast. It's not to ask for

(02:00:13):
thoughts and opinions. I fully believe that on this podcast
I am less liked than Meredith. So it feels good
on Patreon that people respond back to me and not Meredith,
because that's like the one place that maybe people can
like me. Are most loyal fans can like you, No,
they can like us equal it just feels nice. I
would bet if you replace me, the fans would be thrilled.

(02:00:36):
I would put that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Out, putting a pull up on Patreon, which nobody will
respond to.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Listen, Well, however you want, but I'm in this. We
are stuck in this. She can't buy me out the
way Craig wants to buy out. There's nothing to buy
out here. This is all for vibes.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
This is just to talk to you, so I would
be replacing my own happiness and joy.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
There you go, there you have it, so you gave
me all you want anyway. Okay, that's the end of
our episode. Thanks, thanks to bye. Thanks I

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