Summer House Season 9: Episode 9

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first, let's dig it of up.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh no, no, no, true, you'll never guess, so sidebar. Yes.
And also I feel like I shouldn't have to remember
everything I know. Actually I have to talk about this.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Three two one, Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, I'm Alicia on Meredith And this is also podcast
Summerhouse Edition, Season nine, Episode nine. We covered two whole
not even whole days. We covered kind of two days.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I feel like that's a record, right, I feel like
that's a lot in this season.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Definitely not the least.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay, what was that twelve hours? It was a whole Monday?
Now terrible, terrible.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:01):
No, we're not ignoring you anymore, as if you never did.
We really gasolt people there for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
We gaslet ourselves, Apple gas lit us.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
What are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's not our fault, it's not Steve Jobs the system
we used to use for them.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Like I cannot believe they've retired it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I know that really sucks because they would give us
like emails. We got a new one, and now we
just have to like go down.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Now we have to do ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, that sounds literally crazy. Actually we yeah, wait, I'm
checking now. No we don't. Oh that's okay, that's okay,
it's fine, like whatever, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Fine, it's fine. We'll get I just will.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Get a new one soon. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Could be that person to submit one.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It could be you, because I mean we read it,
we'll read it on the podcast. Great, okay, anyway, Wow,
can we just get into the podcast day? Do everything?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think so usually I don't remember to do anything.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh my god, let's just jump in. It was a fine,
fine episode. We'll just jump in. We'll see where it
takes us. So previously on Summer House, it was the
longest Monday ever. We played kickball. It wasn't in the
previously on but Carl had his soft launch Soft Bar Party,
Soft Bar.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Soft Launch off Launch of the Bar.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Craig wants to make sure his relationship is a priority,
but his page dating a secret hater. Carl is dating
this girl Lil and there's some gray area on when
he started talking to her. Jesse got his toe sucked
and a woresome and Lexi didn't know about it. And
Jesse's been floating with Sierra and Lexie didn't know about it,
but then she found out about both those things and
her heart hurts. You know what's annoying. That's where we are.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
All the drama is like happening the exact same time.
It's not like in the past episodes we've really had.
The only other drama is the Craig Kyle stuff. So
I'm kind of like annoyed.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They're not making enough drama. It's just like long standing drama.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Like I was like, oh, that's exciting, and then I
was like yeah, but it wasn't that exciting.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
When you cover it for twenty straight episodes, the drama
becomes less exciting. Here's the thing. TikTok has rotted our brains.
It started with Vine. That's when Vine was when I said,
you have seven seconds to catch my attention, right, maybe
less TikTok has rotted my brain even more. Like reality TV,
you can't give me drama for more than two episodes

(03:34):
and expect me to care the same.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Drama yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta switch it up.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Eventually I will become absolutely bored and I won't care.
I won't care if someone lives or dies at that point.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
But then the issue also is not only our attention span,
but they break the weekends up into like three episodes,
So not only are they like dragging out the episode,
then it like dilutes the drama. When we used to
get an action packed weekend that like was entertaining for
an hour time slot, and we went through an entire

(04:09):
weekend in one episode.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Do you remember when, without a doubt, we could count
on Summerhouse starting the episode at a Friday afternoon driving
and it would end it would end Sunday, like like
afternoon night somewhere.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, Like we that was a constant. And then twice
in the season it would like leave us open ends sure,
or we would like cut off with like some weekday
cliffhanger because there was like drama in city.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Sometimes we even got a full weekday in the middle
and then we started another weekend like we just didn't know,
but we could always count that ninety nine percent of
the time we were going to open We're going to
start our new episode, and it was going to be
Friday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, we're heading the hand. We would drive to the Hamptons.
We would have a dinner out or a dinner in,
and then we would go out and go out have
a party, and then we'd be hung over laying by
the pool and we're just getting up and leaving. And
Sundays we would party on Sundays and leave Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I liked when we all left a different times. Like
some people were like, I gotta get back to the
city asap, and then some people were like, I got
a day to kill what should we do?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like it was, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Sometimes they would wake up really early on Mondays. I
remember it was like four am, and then they would
all drive.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
They have like the desk jobs that they had.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
That was fun. Now, I mean we started the episode, great,
it's Friday afternoon, but we barely make it to Saturday afternoon?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Do we make I don't even know we did. I
don't know. I don't trust their timestamps anymore. Ever, since
you pointed out the issue, they missed one again.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
We'll get there. Let's just start. We are in New
York City, Friday, August ninth, at two thirty two pm.
My world has been fixed. Lindsay and Paige are.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Driving down in the Hampton.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
This is for when did Page join season three? Yeah,
so for six seasons. It's on record. I've been saying
I need these to be friends. They could take over
the world together. I know.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
And I loved the like montage we gotten here about
their fighting because I think the journey that they have
been on makes the friendship satisfying. Just having friends isn't
like fun, that's kind of boring. Let's be honest. We're
here for a little bit of drama, and so we
want to see the ups and downs, whether that's because
you are like enemies to lovers types friends, or have
been on like complicated journeys like Sierra and Amanda have

(06:37):
been on like pages romantic journeys. All three of those
have been through each other's romantic situations together. So that's
their drama together. But Lindsay and Paige. I really enjoyed
the enemies to lovers. I'm obsessed with them.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Also in that one fight where Lindsay's like telling Paige
or they're all in the Santa stuff, it was a
Christmas frien. Yeah, and She's like, come talk to me,
and then Page, She's never sounded more New York when
she was like, don't say come on, let's go like
right at her. And I watched that like twice and
I was like, living in New York, I hear it.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So hard now. And I love that one.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Let's go to Me?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I love that one too, because like they did have
different factions and sides of the houses too, and so
I feel like their tension brought really good like at
angles to the show, where like Lindsay was then sitting
there being like, I didn't come here for a gang thing.
And I always think that line's so funny from her too.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
God, and the fact that if they had just kept
the clip going a little bit longer, like a little bit,
it would have been Paige in her bathing suit just
sitting on the bed while Lindsay like yelled at her,
and then Paige would have just left like nothing happened.
It was so good. Don't say come on, let's go
to me? Oh my god, So Page, because you learn

(07:58):
to love Lindsay's flow. As I've been saying, we all
need to you.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Know what we're all. I was on Page's timeline.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Sorry, no, you're wrong It's okay as long as we're
all there now in the year of twenty twenty nine,
before the world ends, we're all together and united on
this one issue. But Paige loves Lindsay because Lindsay could
be dead wrong. Everyone could say Lindsay, you're wrong, and

(08:25):
no one would think she's right, and Lindsay still wouldn't believe.
She would still believe that she was right. It literally
it plays out in this episode. No I love it,
and Page used to get so frustrated with Lindsay, but
now Page at like thirty two, totally understands. She gets it.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean Page maturing and like becoming more like Lindsay
has helped. But also Paige just accepts Lindsay for who
she is, and I think that is what is replired
of true friendships.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I also think twenties and thirties are very different and
like they have a six year six or seven years
age guy, which is big. So like I'm sure that's
why Lindsay never really cared about Page, because like what,
you're some twenty three year old like telling me how
to live my life. If some twenty three year old
today was like yelling at me and my decisions. I'd
be like, literally, get fucked. You can't even buy or

(09:15):
get a rental car, Like what do you? Yelly?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
We're kind of seeing the same thing between like Page
and Lexi. It's just this like, hey, we're just not
we don't care about the same things. That doesn't mean
I'm going to be like always outright rude to you,
but we're just not on the same playing field right now.
We care about different things. We're in different spaces of
our lives. Well, that and you just grow differently.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Right So, then, like Lindsay had been in this space
for a hot minute, she knew how to act. She
chose to act that way. Page was trying to like
yell at her, not that that was wrong. They would
get in fights, but then Lindsay was like, I don't
give a fuck, and that really irritated Page.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
But now that Page is now Lindsay's age.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
At those times, she's like, I get it because I
not even with Lexi, but in general, Page doesn't really
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
If some twenty three year old started.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yelling at Page day, she'd be like, whatever, weird a like,
And that was how Lindsay was. I think like that
also needs to be talked about like it's just it
was just a generational thing, a generational thing. They're literally
from the same generation. It's fine, though, it's fine, No
one cares anyway. So Lindsay says that her friendship with

(10:19):
Paige was a slow burn, but Paige couldn't deny her
any longer, and it's giving big Stassy wanting to be
Arianna's friend from Vanderpump where she's like, I got youa fine.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I think they're on equal playing field of like
wanting this friendship. Stasi really wanted that ariana friendship.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Lindsay didn't care. She was like, what am I going
to do with a twenty three year old? Nothing like truly,
it was just it wasn't worth it. But Lindsay's emotions
currently are crazy because she's pregnant, but all her emotions
will probably just come out on Carl because of the
whole Like, Okay, this isn't truly Lindsay's fault because it

(10:55):
was released.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, I'm not mad at Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm not mad at anyway.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think it was just like a bad interaction that
got fucked up, and Gabby heard what she heard and
like a good friend was like, Lindsay, this is exactly
how it went down, and Gabby didn't lie. It's just
wasn't right.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I agree, and I think it's it's listen, we if
people don't have enemies, you're just not being honest. And
I am not going to do my due diligence on
people I don't really like that much. Nope.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
So Lindsay has been told that Carl was messaging lil
when over the summer, so like supposedly when they were
still engaged because break up until Labor Day. So I
think Lindsay's also tired of Carl playing the victim that
she talks about, because like he is this like almost
sad boy who hasn't fucked anyone or dated anyone since Lindsay,

(11:46):
and he's just like sad. Lindsay's fucking over it. And
she didn't want anyone to tell Carl that she was
going to confront him. She was a little concerned after kickball,
because she did talk about it a kickball that LEXI
might tell Jesse, who will tell.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Carl, But paigees like, don't even worry about it, those.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Who have their own issues.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So true, But I understand the wanting to catch people
off guard. I want your natural reaction.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't want you to plan for this, especially my ex,
especially when you could delete stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm not saying Carl would, but this is like we
do reference text messages, so we could change the narrative
if you have a heads up, and if we've.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Learned anything about a good confrontation. You want the other
person to be totally unprepared. Yeah, for the drama, for
the show unprepared. Nobody tell him. So then we cut
to Lexi and Jesse. They're driving down together. They have
the longest hello kiss that just like made me want
to die. So after Kickball, when Lexi found out about

(12:44):
the toe sucking gait and Jesse flirting with Sierra, she
went home and she cried for two days.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Which is so sad.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
But Lexi is all about forgiveness. So you get two
chances to screw her over and I went, oh.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
God, I'm so sorry. But yeah, this isn't two chances.
This is like four hundred because there are so many
things that they've like talked about, and these were two
separate instances.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's not even necessarily that. It's just like you're different.
When I'm away and that itself isn't even a chance.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's just like concerning Dad, It's not like, Okay, the
toe sucking thing, I think was an instance, you know,
like whatever it was, it was a dumb move, let's
talk about it. And he was trying to to like
that this is not going to happen all the time.
But yeah, how he acts with Sierra and the things
she's talked to him about the Greater Friend group and
how he interacts with people, that is like, you shouldn't

(13:42):
have to damper yourself down and be different in a
relationship that like I think Craig and Amanda said to him,
like you should want to be different, like you should
want to be a boyfriend, not have a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I also think the chances come from him not telling her, right,
because that's directly he could do that. So like chance
number one he didn't tell her about choe sucking, and
chance number two he didn't tell her about Sierra. If
he knew the house was talking about he did talk.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
He did tell her about Sierra, but she, oh, other
people are taking it like this and it's like, oh,
you did not tell her that full story.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So if we want to talk about it, her. His
two chances in my book are done already. I don't
know what we're doing here, but you know.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
What, say like, I'm gonna really stand on business after
the second time he foxed me over.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, because everyone's chances are just like different. And also
I don't think you should have to deal with any bullshit.
I truly believe, and this goes out to all my
friends who are listening. No man is good enough for
any of my friends. I don't care if I'm obsessed
with your husband, He's still not good enough for you.
If if it ever ends, I'm picking your side and
I'm murdering him without question, Like he's not good enough

(14:53):
for you, And I stand by that with Lexi. Lexie,
he's not good enough for you. No man will ever
be good enough for you. You should at least have
a man who tries to.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Be good enough. That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't even think the way he like fixes it
is normal. Like she went home and cried for two days.
That is another fuck up and not lit on that's
big twenty six energy. Yeah, but like it seems like
they didn't resolve it at kickball or they didn't really
have a conversation about it, or even like when they
like get to the house and they like are talking

(15:23):
about it with their friends. I'm like, I don't really like,
did you guys resolve this? This doesn't feel like a
good communicative relationship where things happen. Jesse's like, honest about it.
You guys actually work through it, discuss things, and then
like move on. I mean, I don't know exactly where
it is.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I know I made a note about it somewhere, but
just because we're on the conversation now, she says. He
sent her flowers that night after kickball and then took
her out to her favorite restaurant where they had a chat.
Which if we're having a chat about to second, we're
doing it in the privacy of someone's apartment, Like I'm
not We're not going in public because then I can't

(16:00):
be mad.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
So I don't like I fucked up flowers and like, oh,
I'll like let me do all this to like fix
what I did, or like let's ignore what I did
and like do all these fun things.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, it's just a lot of band It's giving like
a really immature relationship on both ends. But like Lexi
has an excuse because she's literally twenty six and also
living in New York from Toronto.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
She's but I don't think she's doing the immature things.
I think she's like accepting the immature behavior.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
That but that's an immature thing too, is like you
accept the immature behavior, right, But she again is twenty six,
she's sheltered from Toronto. She's just meaning these douchebags.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
York from Toronto is if Toronto's not a major city.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, but the douchebags in New York are, Yes, yes,
even if Jesse's from Chicago. He listened, Yes, there might
be a Jessi Er two in Chicago, but he expanded
his doucherie in New York, you know, like Eggie is.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I know, we're like getting really off topic, but Lexi
was on watching Eppens Live and she said that she
has watched the show before. And this goes to our
point of like you got to know what you're getting
yourself into. Like, Okay, I don't get how you like
watch these shows and don't like kind of put up
a little bit of a guard. I'm kind of like
shocked that this is happening so fast, and she's not

(17:22):
a little bit more skeptical of at least the Sierra
and Jesse stuff because they weren't even flirty last season.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, but she was with Wes, so it wasn't a thing.
It Like I wouldn't have I didn't start thinking Sierra
and Jesse until her and West had broken up and
those two went to Miami together in the off season.
That was the first time we ever said could there
be something? And I think we both on the podcast
said no way because she was with Wes. Yeah, Like

(17:53):
I get Lexi going in and being like, there's fro way.
She also is honestly doing what we asked everyone to do,
like live your authentic life with a camera in front
of it. Like, sure, be guarded, but I think the
thing we're saying is like when it comes to asshole
men on TV, that's when you should be guarded. Don't
like hide your feelings from us, Like be open, like

(18:18):
tell us that you really like Jesse and you're hurt
and like you want this to happen. But with Jesse,
hold him to a standard that is worth your time.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think, like, because you also have the excuse of
reality TV and making bolder moves than you do without
cameras around. I'm kind of shocked she didn't like immediately
go to the girls and be like, what happened when
I was away? Tell me everything? Like if she's not
friend kind of came to her, I know, but like
at kickball, I would have been like, all right, tell
me everything that happened last week.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But she's also I've thought deeply about this. Obviously she's
better friends with Jesse than the girl, so she's gonna
take Jesse's word over the girls anyway. That's the other
problem is she came in with Bailey. Bailey's not really
a Bailey was the only one that told her before
about all the bullshit, Right if these girls were actually

(19:06):
Lexi's friends, which they're not because they just met her,
But the girls would have been like, Yo, your dude
is acting shady when you're not around.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
That's true, right, they're better friends with Jesse, like other
girls are better better friends with Jesse too, protecting him
as well. Now better friends with Sierra.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, Like, so it's just the way Lexi came in.
It's just like an unfortunate situation for her.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Like it's really she's.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Not doing anything except like being twenty six and like
accepting immature behavior from a thirty something year old like that,
he's ridiculous, But the rest of the house has no
loyalty to her, Like, yeah, you could watch this show
over and over, and I tell you, if I go
on this show at thirty, yeah, I'm gonna be a
little guarded. But I'm telling you right now, I'm falling

(19:50):
in love with Wes. And I know I watched the
whole show, and I know i'm gonna be like, but
he is kind of hot right right now, I'm falling right, No,
that's that's my dumb.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Okay, you're right. It's just so complex, Like everybody's saying that,
like the other girls are being mean girls, and I'm like,
all right, this is just that they're just friends.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
They're just not friends with her. Yeah, they're just not
I think of anything. It should be Amanda's responsibility, because
Amanda was the one that introduced us the way Emerald
is Kyle's responsibility at this point.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's true. The people need to take more responsibility for
the people they like are forced to bring into this show.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
But I think, like this is also why I don't
think we need like a total cast shake up. But
you should bring in two new boys and two new
girls so that everyone has someone to like lean kind.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Of like how the Bombshells and Love Island come in.
You need you need a body.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, Like when Page came in, she had Hannah and Jordan,
and those three already had a separate relationship, so they
were kind of a unit. And but then you brought
Jewels in by herself and look what that like came
Everyone bullied her out of the house. It was like
a terrible season in for her, and like now we
can reflect back and like that was hard. That was
hard on her, And then who else came in? Sierra

(21:08):
came in alone, but luckily we're in COVID, so they
all never got a break from each other, so they
had to accept her right. Luke came in, and he
was disliked by a many before.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
He just stuck around because he was It's only easier.
It's like you come in kind of alone if you
have a love interest, but you are so tied to
that person. Allah, like that's how I was too with Hannah.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And then well then tell me Amanda was with Kyle
for a four page showed up. Amanda didn't have one
fuck that's why she was always crying to Kyle she
have one girlfriend to be like.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, that's what the seventeen they were all friends. That's
what the seventeen page letter was all about.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
They were all friends with Kyle. Yeah, it's just it's
a bad situation for Lindsay or Flexi.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I mean and look now Lindsay's alone and she doesn't
give a fuck because she's been here long enough. She
just needs a few years under her belt. Let's see'll
get it. I don't think Lexie's him back, Honestly, I
don't know, but she's a good time. I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
That did put it in a I think zooming out
and thinking about the other factors involved.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, there's a lot happening that Like. I can't blame
Lexi for it, but I wish I could just like
reach in the TV and be like, no.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think it's hard to him. I love a woman
who stands on business, especially in a confessional, and so
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Make him suffer maybe to watch.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Her be kind of like a victim of his bad decisions.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
This man hasn't suffered. He Two days later, you were
having dinner with him, that's not suffering. Make him pick
you up and you sit in the back seat all
to yourself. Make Wes sit in the front, don't talk
to him at all, make them for that whole.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Have in cars and you're like, I just don't want
to be here, my god.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Anyway, So yeah, they pick up Wes. This is the
new crew. They just subed ince Lexi for Sierra, and
this is the new theory. Wes ha it.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
He misses Sierra so much because, like Jesse was used
to being like the friend in the trio and being
the third wheel, but like Wes does not want to
be the third wheel of these two.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
No, but also like Wes again, Wes and Jesse came
in together as nub Yes and then they had oldie Sierra,
who was like, come join now it's Wes picked up
a fucking rookie. And he's like, what am I doing.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's kind of like I'm not saying like Alexi is
an anchor, but like she's an anchor to like the
connection to the old schools, Like she's pulling them back
to the news school and they're like, oh, we're veterans now,
we're veterans.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Also, Wes and LEXI don't have that frame downistry, It's
not there. No, So like Wes is having a bad time.
I don't even think Jesse and Lexi have it. So
like everyone's having a bad time. But Lexi and Jesse
tell Wes that they got dinner yesterday with Jesse's parents.
I was like, oh no, not really normal after a

(23:57):
month of dating. We did see a little clip of
them at dinner with Jesse's parents, Cheryl and Joel. Hey,
what's up, guys. Next time I'm in Chicago, hit you
up because we live in similar suburbs, and Jesse said.
Jesse says he mostly did it to keep Lexi happy
after everything about the tone. He said that to her face.

(24:19):
I was like no. In the car, yes, And then
in the car he said he doesn't know why they're
rushing this, but Lexi really wanted to meet her parents.
Normally he wouldn't have her, but he didn't want it.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
He didn't want it I And then I'm uphold that
he says that literally while they're all in the car.
If I was West, I'd be like, get me out
of this car right now.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
They're not even out of New York. They're driving up
the side.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
To open the door and roll out of the moving
car if I were west.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And then Wes in the car in front of everyone,
was like, my words of wisdom is to not do
that until Jesse's ready.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But it's too ready.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, it's too late though, Oh well, and then they
awkwardly get silent and Jesse just like reaches to hold
Lexi's hand and I was like, you know what, good
for Wes make it even more awkward.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
But like, okay, here's another example of like why are
you doing this to me? You're basically embarrassing Lexi in
front of a friend and in front of cameras, being
like this this girl, he would not let me not
introduce her to her my parents.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I was, she's definitely not the one, but she made
me introduce her to her my parents. Crazy because I
went clubbing with hers. I think Lexi, maybe though, doesn't
know like the importance to some people like meeting the parents,
because everyone meets her parents, like it's a big deal
for me. I don't introduce people I don't like I'll

(25:52):
be married and they still won't know me.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Because it's not like the whole friend group was out
and Lexi's parents met the friend group out and so
it was like, all, this is my friend. We're going
to keep it under the like radar type of meeting
where technically you've met them at that under that pretense,
these are like formal introductions.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I think Lexi's a big it's not a big deal
if I meet your parents, sip a person, whereas like
I don't know how Jesse is officially because he hasn't
told us, but like you and I are very like
if someone asked us to meet their parents, I'm preparing
for a week.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm so I also know what's gonna happen because Lexi's parents,
like hermom and or sister, are so involved in her work.
It seems like they're in New York all the time,
so they're just like in her everyday life.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
They know Lexi's life. So then it's a little.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Bit easier to introduce somebody into your everyday life when
your parents are already in your everyday life, whereas like
our parents are like coming in town to see us,
so then it's like already a thing. Yeah, And so
then to add in another person like I just want
to hang out with my parents if they're in town.
But also I ninety percent of the time.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Even if I tell my parents about someone, they forget
their name because you just don't meet. But then add
and I'm not telling my parents, She's just like randomly
about people I like, even my friends. Sometimes my parents
like just don't know. So then like Lexi's parents, I
think do know because she talks to them about them
all the time.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, that's a point. So where she was like I'm
wearing his underwear, God in front of her mom, where
she's pushing like, oh, it's just a dinner, Like yeah,
just go to dinner because you are already going to
dinner with your parents, Like it's so easy for me
to come like this is everyday life or yeah. He's like.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
No, yeah, great, Well we've already spent like so much
time and we're not even in the Hampton's like literally,
let's just show. So it's five sixteen pm. Lindsay and
Page make it, followed by Carl and Emerald love that
they're driving up together and Page is so happy. She's like,

(27:56):
thank god boys are here, because we're pregnant. We shouldn't
be caring anything. Then Lexi, Jesse and West show up immediately.
Everyone's in the kitchen. It's a hell of them. A
lot of awkward between Carl and Lindsey. Yeah, he does
have his soft bar hat on.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Hey listen, all I'm gonna say is, if you have
a business, where the hell out of your.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Where are the merch? And then Amanda and Kyle are
here back from Italy uh and Amanda says it was great.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Kyle didn't work and Amanda.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Stayed out till seventy amazing. So tonight we're doing Shabbat dinner,
a Jewish tradition.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I was so excited about this. I love it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
And then Sierra also comes, which West looks at Sierra
and says, Shabbat shalom, Sierra. You know China. He missed
the whole car right. All I thought was I wish
it was Sierra. I should have never fucked.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Wes does not miss an opportunity to try to reignite
their friendship, but every time he burns the like olive
branch instead.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
No literally, because it's turning out to be a little creepy,
but whatever. So Lexi says that the jesse AND's here
thing is sketchy and she doesn't really know what to believe, Like,
are they flirting.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Are they brother sister? We don't know. So the girls go.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Outside because like the boys are busy doing stuff and
the girls should just like ay man, sit down, and
the boys stay inside. So in the boys hang, Jesse
tells the boys that him and Lexi are exclusive. They've
met both sides for the families, and Emerald and Kyle
both have a heart attack, and Wes sits there and
he's like, dude, I know, like Wes is the other side.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Like Wes is like, let me air this dirty laundry
out so everybody else can realize what I've been going
through this whole week.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
The opposite of hyping my man up. Let's do that,
like no, And then Wes also tells the boys that
Jesse got bullied into it because Jesse didn't actually want
to do Like that's strong.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't think Lexi bullied him into it. I think
Jesse doesn't know how to say know.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah. But if I'm West, I'm like, my dude is
held captive.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
We gotta get him out. Oh no, we're not blaming
the woman here, No.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
No, no, it's not her fault. But like from where
West is coming from, I see it. I've been the friend.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I'm like, yuh, because I love to do this in
my own family, Like shame does work. So if you
say your friend got bullied into it, it's like, wow,
you really couldn't stand up for yourself, Like come on, Jesse,
like you got bullied into this.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Lose. So then the girls hang. Lexi tells the girls
she met Jesse's parents. They're like, oh my god, it's
so cute, and she's like it's what I needed after
leaving Kickball, and everyone's like wait, what.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I actually love, love love that Amanda and Kyle have
not been here because even if they do know, I
think they know what's going on. They have been on
this show for so long they're going to make sure
to ask the questions. Oh absolutely.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And then Lexi's because the band is like, what are
you talking about? And she's And then Lexie's like, I
found out about toe sucking gate at Kickball. And then
she also brings up like she heard that Jesse and
Sierra were flirting, but Lexi cannot believe that because Jesse
and Sierra are like brother and sister, Like she sees
it all the time, the.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Silence from everyone else like they're.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Not like even Sierra, Sarah's like brother sister.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
They're not like saying like, oh no, it wasn't like
that out of flirting.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
They're not adding anything to this, They're just leaving that
no in the open.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Everyone's gets wide eyed. Sierra literally chokes on her spin
for a second, shes to cough because Paige sells us
in't a confessional, like I don't know a lot of
brothers and sisters that touch and flot the way they do. Nope,
only the ones that kiss on the leg, you know,
only together?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Not Why is this week full of like incess and
weird things with family members and families.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
So Sierra admits that Jesse was ten times like more
Jesse that when Lexi was away. So Page just tells Lexi, like,
Jesse needs to change his behavior for when you aren't around,
and Lexi needs to.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Know that because it's not just it's not like a
Sierra thing, it's Jesse without Lexi thing. And that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, because Sierra's around all the time when Lexi's around,
But then the minute Lexi's gone, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And there's other girls out there, like he can do
this with. It's it's not just going to start and
end with Sierra. I think definitely is heightened with her,
but oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
So then back to the boys hang. Carl went on
a date with Lil and she gave him, uh a
lemon because he makes lemonade out of lemons. Who would
have thought, Mine day, I'm gonna bring him a potato?
But then what say? And then you can use it?

(33:05):
To use it? Amusing lemona one lass of lemonade? Like
did you stop at the podega and just pick up
a lemon?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
And he goes he calls Lil zany I was like,
just yeah, no, we've seen that the entire time.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
The fact that you are now on board with this
is crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
She is Zany. Let me tell you. He is not
really feeling Lil anymore though, And the guys are like, yeah, Wes,
it doesn't know if he's more horrified with the Jesse
Lexi situation or now this lemon situation. Wes literally is like,
I miss Sierra. Honestly, where'd she go?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I mean, Carl also only did pick Lil or was
interested in Lil because she was in she loved him,
So I mean, while like good factor to pursue somebody
for sure. Getting out of a like engagement and ending
that and getting back into the dating pool a great
starting point. However, Carly hope this you realize this is

(34:07):
not the only factor that matters.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And just for all our viewers, obviously, I'm gonna watch
this episode in the point of view of Wes because
he just wants to be done, and I find that
the funniest storyline in the world is just imagining what
Wes is thinking.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's everything going on in Emerald, who's also just like
the fuck are these it rolls an interesting one because
he doesn't know them in a similar way that Wes does.
So Wes has the historical knowledge to be like, god, damn,
where's this all ended up? Where em Roll's like, who
the fuck are these people?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Well, because Wes is like, what about how good it
was last summer? Like what is happening in this house?
Emerald is like, is this how this house is? Two
different levels of everyone's getting lemons on their date? I
cannot This is why Emerald doesn't go on dates. He
doesn't have room for lemons. Oh my god, he has enough.

(35:01):
But then we cut back to the girls hang and
Amanda asks about Carl's soft lunch launch and everyone's like, no,
it's cute, and then Lindsay's like, but let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Lindsay was like counting in her head to like three
till she could like interject and be like, listen to
what I heard.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
They gave Carl's soft launch two compliments, and she fucking
jumped in and she was like, listen up. I heard
that Carl's new new piece has been talking to him
since summer when we were engaged. And everyone's like, and
Page is cracking up. And then Lindsay's like, I believe

(35:40):
something happened in those past two weeks. Because then Lindsey
tells us Carl's Week, he wouldn't break off an engagement
Lessie had something there to make it like okay for him,
that's the best dish that's up there with Loser. For me,
You're Week, it's just so you're fake.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
You're Week.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
You're a loser. Those three hit reality TV stars so
hard and I'll never understand.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I mean, while I do kind of agree with Lindsay's
assessment of Carl that, oh, for sure something needed to happen,
I also still don't think Lindsay realizes what their relationship was, like,
your relationship was the thing.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
That's okay because they'll never date again, and she's already pregnant.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
She's already moved on, And I hate the people online
being like, clearly she's not over it. No, this would
bother me too if I again, Lindsay is being told
an incorrect timeline. If I was told an in correct timeline,
I would still be fired up. I don't care who
the hell I was dating.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And Lindsay also later when she calls Turner, she's like,
I don't care if it happened last year.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Or ten years ago, I'm gonna be kissed about it.
I would be repped up. It's it's the principle of.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
It again, just like, let's see put your put yourself
in like Lindsay's perspective, right.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Even though about to say West Shoes.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
No, sorry, Lindsay's she was told even if it was
a year ago, right, but she's moved on. She was
told the wrong timeline. This is also her ex who
broke up with her on camera they didn't get their
deposit back for the wedding, and then online it sparked
this huge are you team paid or are you team
Lindsay or Carl And so she for like nine months no, literally,

(37:20):
she's like fuck this guy, because then she got pregnant
and everyone again was like, oh my god, she's the devil,
She's the villain. So Lindsay is like, you know what
I owe this man nothing. I don't care about him.
Someone told me the wrong timeline. I'm gonna call his ass.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Absolutely and we I think people never give these casts grace,
especially Summerhouse, because they start so quickly after they finished
their reunion. This reunion was like two and a half
months ago, so like she had to talk about this
four months. It was still on the top of your mind.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
And the worst part was it happened in what September.
She couldn't really talk about it until March with the
reunion because you had she under contract and then she
could go on on her podcast towards but then she
starts up again anyway, So like she had the same
with you know, like this this would matter to me. Yeah,
it's the same thing, kind of like the timeline with Scandabal,

(38:13):
Like you gotta give grace because the timing there was
not enough time to like go through it. And sure
she got pregnant and she's healed, and like Lindsay just
doesn't care about Carl, but like the situation is still
for right, Yeah, we're not even a year in there's
they were still engaged at this point.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, yeah, it has not been a year of them
out of the relationship. I would not I would be
spiraling like no other.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
But not only on both sides. Are they morning a relationship,
They're morning a ten year friendship and on top of
that a reality TV friendship where like they were the
only ones that knew what each other was going through,
Like there's this specific group that.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Like it doesn't all fade away just in in an
instance of the breakup.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
So I think she does still have some sort of
feelings for him, cares about like the situation.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
But to say she's not over the relationship is crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I would say, if anything, she's not over like everything
that was lost in the break in the relationship, because
then it sparked like another thing. Like I would say, Lindsay,
Carl and Kyle are the only ones that like have
their special bond in this still and then the breakup,
like Kyle and Carl.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Won each right, so she lost a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I agree and I think Carl lost a lot too,
and I think it's fair that they're both processing in
different ways.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, and I'm over people being villainized for caring about
things and also people trying to shirk the responsibility of caring.
It's okay to care about.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Things, for sure, but also just because we're on a
reality TV show and like we got to bring it up,
you give me a wrong timeline.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
It's that is absolutely what I will be talking about.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I'm pissed. So it's six twenty nine PM. Jesse's helping
Siera with her bags, with which Lexi clocked.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean I did too.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Sierra tells Paige it's time for her to date an athlete,
and I'm right there, girly right there.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
But I love how she's like, not Mary, I just
want to date one for.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
A little bit. No, never marry an athlete unless honestly
it's a woman. Don't marry a man athlete. Like they're
they're gonna cheat on you. The women weirdly faithful.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
They're either going to cheat on you or most of
them go broke once they leave their sports. So like,
I also don't want the financial responsibility of you after.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Women are smarter data woman athlete data normal man.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's how it should well date data athlete man. To
then social lion into other categories to like the CEO
or something.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, someone who doesn't have to travel that much.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
For work, or like you get a trump tell them
and it's not like you're always there.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yes, So the Giggly Squad Tour is in one month.
Craig's reaction to it makes Page really sad because she
expected her boyfriend to be supportive and then that's all
we'll hear about that for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
And to think that then she got sent that documentary
after she had a panic attack is so.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Sad that I have a dad documentary is crazy. So
Kyle's been practicing DJing all night because tomorrow he's going
to DJ in the Hamptons and now he can DJ
his lover boy events, so we're saving money.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
If he wasn't like forty two years old, I would
think this is like his passion is so interesting. But
I'm like, dude, it's just been years of you.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Literally nine years ago he was like, I can't wait
to be a dad when I'm forty that. I'm like, sir,
you have you haven't even bought property.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
And if he had crashed out so hard about Amanda
wanting to design swim suits, I would be all in
for his passions. But you don't like support women in
their passions, so I don't support men in their passions.
Get out of Here's that.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So it's time for Shabbat. Put all your phones in
a bin because we're going to be present. Then Jesse
sings a prayer and it's beautiful and awkward all at
the same time because everyone doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Maybe laugh, maybe not.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Lexi has hard eyes, Page is trying not to make
eye contact as she giggles. Wes is like scared but enthused.
No one.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
When we talk about this. Friday night is the night
for fights at the dinner table, and the girls know
what's coming. So like I'm also sitting here waiting for
like Lindsay to yell at Carl.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
But then for Jesse to sing his his song. You're like,
can you show it's it's a prayer, but he's Everyone's like,
can you just it's not the time.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
He's like in the middle, you know, like that doesn't happen.
He took some liberties.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Then everyone feels up on wine we get our matsible soup,
and then Shabbat is all about rest and reflecting. So
Kyle reflects upon coming home from Italy, Amanda held his
hand and as a married couple, they did it. Sierra

(43:06):
babysat a cat, so she had two cats, and then
Wes is like, oh my god, and he because he's
met Cyr's cat, she answers a little. Wes immediately was like,
he's like this they went to my conversation. Carl says he,
I don't know if I would share this with the table.

(43:27):
Oh I was so embarrassed. I'm like, we don't need to.
But Carl goes. He says to everyone he went on
a date and it's made him realize he's going to
keep dating. And everyone's like the same girl or it's
like how he.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Said it too. He could have just said like, oh,
I'm out there dating again, but people are like, okay,
I have the need to clarify.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Are we still on lil Yes, I went on a
date with the girl. Lindsay is seething about currently and
I'm going to date and everyone's like oh okay. And
then someone else was like she brought him Maybe it
was Emerald and he's like, she brought him a lemon,
and everyone's like a lemon weirdo. And then Lindsay's like, no,

(44:09):
so interesting. Is this the same girl you've been talking
to you since last summer.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
She's like, thank you for bringing it up yourself, so
I didn't have to.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
No, truly, he walked into the traut that she laid.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Carl literally put himself in handcuffs and was like, yell
at me.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Truly, take me away. So yeah, it's definitely a weird
timeline issue because Carl immediately is.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Like, Carl has no clue what's going on.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
He's so confused. Lindsay's like, you've been messaging this girl
since the summer. Jesse is eating his shabat dinner because
nothing's going to bring him down. Lindsay tells them that
she's What she's getting at is his little girlfriend is
going around saying that they've been messaging since last summer
before they were broken up, and Carl says that they

(44:57):
weren't messaging before they were broken up. Carl, Lindsay, the.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Lack of knowledge makes it seem like he's guilty a
little bit too. Lindsay no, because it looks like he's deflecting,
but he is truly just confused.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
No, the best part was Lindsay goes, prove it, and
Carl goes, I can't. My phone's upstairs, and Lindsay's like
how convenient, and everyone, like even Hyowa was like, literally,
go get your phone, dude, like.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
The fact that he did it immediately get up. I
don't need I don't need Jesse's permission to like not
defend myself with my phone in this situation.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
No, truly, She's like, prove it. I would have been like,
all right, one second He's like not over Shabbat dinner
and I was like, that makes you look so much guilty.
So then Lindsay tells him he has a terrible judge
of character, and Carl's like, yeah, I do, look in
I died over that. I was like stopping you too.

(45:54):
Everyone is cragging up.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
This kind of made me miss them fighting so much
last because it was real. It was very sad, but
it was very.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Engaged again, get engaged again. And then Lindsay tells Carl
he plays the victim all the time, and then Carl's like,
I could easily make a list of all the things
you've lied about and Lindsay goes, I'm not a liar,
and then Carl says, I pray for you, and that's
when I threw it. I was like, okay, I said,

(46:25):
Carl lost the leading too.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I pray for you was way better than I thought
it was going to be from the like trailer like
this was so entertaining, terrible life. I don't pray for her.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
It was so entertaining. And then he killed the whole
room and he's like, I pray for you, and everyone
literally stopped laughing and was like oh. I was like, Carl,
you're getting her, You're getting her.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
This is good.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
And then it's like, yeah, you have a terrible judge
of character, and he's like I'm looking at you, bitch,
and then he's and then she's like I'm not a
liar and he's like, I'll pray for you, and she's
like oh, and everyone he came weird. Oh. Lindsay goes,
I don't need you to pray for me, which I
was like, yeah, weirdo. And then that's when Kyle is like,
please go get your thought.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I don't want to talk about this anymore.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
And all the girls had like a visceral reaction to
him going, I pray for you.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Everyone's like, oh, they were like, Carl, for you. You
were doing good battling against never mind you just never mind.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
West had a little bit of a heart attack. He's like,
these men suck this.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I love When he goes and grabs the phone and
he's like, read it, read it, and everybody's like, oh,
I don't want to do Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
So it's nine forty four pm. Jesse literally like looks
at Carl and he's like, I just talked to God.
You can go get the phone, and so Carl goes
and he he yeah, he hands the phone around and everyone's.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I don't want any part of this. Lindsay grab that's
because like you're friends with both of them, you cannot
take a side. You're like in any other situation. If
it were like Jesse and Lexi, I'm like, give me
the phone.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I'll read it. Well, whoever reads it, they're gonna be
like they didn't start messaging till October, and Lindsay's gonna
want to see anyway. So Lindsay gets it vindicated they
didn't start until October. But Lindsay can't be wrong, so
she's like, but you met the parents in August?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Why didn't you tell me?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
And Carl, in his goofy voice, is like, I'm not
gonna come home Lindsay and be like I met the
fewest parents today, and everyone dies laughing again because it's
just the dumbest conversation. And I truly think Lindsay is
just like wrapped up in hormones.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I agree, like once you already cant, it's hard. Now
it's hard for her to come back down because a lot.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Of times I don't I haven't gone through a lot
of things with a lot of pregnant women, but a
lot of times, when your hormones are going, you either
get them all out or you just stop and cry
like there's no other.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Thing that would be so overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Like my friend would get really like if we were
talking about something, she'd get heated up and she'd be like,
I really just need to like let all the energy out,
or she would just cry like there was no one between.
Lindsay's not about to cry. So she's like here we are,
so Lindsay, she's not going down. She's like, okay, sounds good,
but like I heard that she's saying that you were

(49:16):
talking to her this summer, so I'm gonna bring that
up when I hear it, and everyone's like, great, we
we got there. We got a resolution. I mean, because
Carl was like, you should bring me.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I was like, okay, I'm glad you're not like fighting
with her. You're like, that's absolutely right. If you think
something is wrong, we can discuss it, no problem.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Bring it up, and we're like we got a beginning, middle,
and end all.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Before dinner was over, we Cierra was like, we've never
done that before. I was like, actually, that's so true.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
It's amazing. And then even Wes is like, she's gonna
be knocked up all the time. She's amazing. Yeah, because
you get the full Lindsay experience without the three day fallout.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Like this was amazing. And I actually think Carl handled
himself well where he wasn't like yelling at a pregnant woman,
but he also isn't just laying down and taking it.
He needed to clear this up. I'm glad the boys
made him go get his phone.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Well not only that, like Wes should take notes because
like these two, like I said, they care about each other,
they hate each other. There's so many emotions here With
these two, they cleared it up. They were both able
to I liked when Lindsay she even stood it around.
She's like, that's what I heard. I'm gonna bring it up.
And Carl said he could have said, like, well, don't
yell at me, or like do your fact checking, but

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he said you should bring it up to me.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, we're gonna communicate as too. I think something that
Carl does better than Wes is that I think Carl
does play the victim, but I don't think he villainizes Lindsay.
I think he just is like, oh, poor me in
my life situation, whereas Wes is like, she's doing this
to me, Like I can't believe Sarah would say Sarah
would say this instead of just like letting things be.

(50:50):
I think Carl's letting things be, but he is in
he's a soft boy and just wants a hug. So like,
I don't think the lever change.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Totally agree, but I was impressed with Carl. I was
impressed with Lindsay. I think they bold this was a
great argument ten out of ten.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Well used to be way better at like battling. I
think some of that has to do with him being
on substances, and I wish he could find his way
back to a little bit to that person obviously not
on substances, but he used to stand his ground way
more and have like opinions and like drive and all
this other stuff. And I feel like recovery Carl just
like wants to live a simple life while good needs

(51:30):
a little bit more direction in his life.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I know. I also think it just comes with age,
Like he's not true, why are we going to argue?
And like what benefit is he going to get from
like feeding into this argument with lindsay there was.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Nothing to really this is the version I want from him.
But I feel like in conversations he tends to like
be a little bit more timid, Like last year we
saw that a lot. I wish he could like stand
his ground, Yeah, just a little bit more than his
like everyday easygoing personality.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, I do think I think it probably comes with
age and recovery. And I don't think the breakup has
like helped a ton with like his self confidence, I.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Would say in the house.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
But I loved this. This was great on both sides.
This was the first time Carl did the opposite of
giving me the ach.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I was kind of like, oh, that's what I'm saying.
I was like, damn, this kind of reminds me of
like young Carl, but like new and improved version.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Man gave me an ach too.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
No, there were just because I loved about him. I
just think he had this like zest for life and
there to him, and I like I got a little
glimmer of the good version.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
As an adult. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
It was really good.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, So then we got to move on because we're
still reflecting on our lives. Admiral is like I hung
out with my cousin's kid this week, which was fun.
They immigrated here three or four years ago, and we
saw a little clip and I was like, show us
more of this man.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Well, did you see on social media this week that
he actually helped fund a school in his town and
it like is open and he went and met the
kids this week, Like he's like doing really amazing, like
the town and they was born in. He was born
in like a very impoverished city town, and he built
a school there. I don't know if he like solely

(53:13):
funded it or like if there were other partners, but
he definitely was a funder of the project. And went
and met some of the kids who were in it,
and he was like education, like, we'll pull these kids
out of poverty, and like, I wish that top of
stuff was high.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Oh my god, put some respect on your name. Good
for him.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
All that melts. I really like seeing.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I know.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I think it's really hard because we have these really
complex relationships that they really brobably, really always leans into.
So I think it's really hard for newcomers to show
their independent life unless it's woven into long standing drama.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Agreed, Oh but good for em. Oh my god, so great.
Then Lesi talks about how she got an argument with
Jesse and she didn't get the it.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
The way these to talk about each other in front
of each other's faces.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I'm like, yeah, Instead they actually talked about it like adults,
and Kyle was like, oh, regarding the toe sucking, and
then Lexi and Jesse were both like and other stuff,
and then it got really awkward because like you could
have just said yeah about the toe sucking and been
done with it, but nope. So then they're like Paige

(54:25):
and She's like, I'm not going after that. Let's just
wrap this up. So Shabat shalom. Dinner's adjourned, so Amanda,
Page and Sierra go up to Page and Sierra's room
to chat. They cannot believe the Lindsay Carl argument, and
they're all like, wow, We've never seen Lindsay shut down

(54:47):
so fast. And then they talk about oh and then
we cut to Jesse and West in the kitchen with Carl,
and they're like, dude, so happy that you were actually
telling because like it seemed for a little bit that
you were using Shabbat dinner and to like hide your
lie like that was crazy and it looked so bad.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Like I was like me, and did I back the
wrong horse last week? Like was there like even if
they weren't incriminating bad text, but if they had communication
in the summer, Lindsey would have like still found that inappropriate.
Even if I didn't. Then I was like, oh no,
this isn't gonna go well.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yep. So then Lexi's also in the kitchen. She asked
Carl about his dating life. Carl just wants to go
on dates. Emerald's like, hey, I mean you should date
more than one person, which, like I agree, Carl shouldn't
like settle down with any especial like.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
First second date if you just like line them all up.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, and then Lexi turns to Emerald and she's like,
you're on my shit list, and everyone was like, oh, okay,
did I. It's not Emerald's fault. And then this is
like blaming the other woman when you she is because
like she's mad that Emerald dared the girl to suck
Jesse's toe. But Emord was the one that told Bailey

(56:09):
about the toe secking, which is the only reason you
know about the toe second invite.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Jesse in to be like come with me. That's a
reason to be annoyed with Emerald if he had done that.
But yeah, Jesse went in there like on his own,
was never asked to come in, was never invited in,
sat down, and emroll like had some fun with it,
Like you, he chose to come into our world.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Jesse is a grown ass man. You cannot blame Emerald
for this guy's decision.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
And it's not like you guys have like a ten
year relationship on the line where all your friends know
and like shouldn't be you know, invited the dates gone out. Yeah,
like this is a one month love affair. I'm gonna
call it one situation.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Fair.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
They just met, the parents have been involved, so it's
a little bit deeper good crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I do love how when Lexi says that Emerald doesn't
even hide his eye roll, He's like.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Oh my, He's like, the fuck did I do?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Emerald? Emerald's actually getting it and is out of the drama.
Lexi's here crying for two days over a toast.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
He also won't take the bait. He's not gonna be like, oh,
I'm so sorry. He's like, literally, I did nothing. Emo
would apologize if he did something wrong too. He would
throw Jesse right on her and be like, I didn't
invite him into my threesome. But it's like not that
leap even like this situation as I eat that deeper, Emerald,
why is he even in my room?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Right? Literally? So then cut back to Amanda Page in Sierra.
They talk about how Jesse and Lexie are weird as fuck,
which Page is like, literally so weird, I can't handle it.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Thing like then like at that table, I was like,
why are you this? Like you said, why are you acknowledging?
There are other things? And then you're just silent. We
care about this stuff. At this table, we're gonna ask questions,
but also you clearly are going to answer, so.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
They know there's something else. And the girls are like,
Lexi didn't bring up the whole Jesse flirting with Sierra thing,
which I don't.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Think she wants to, because everybody, I think will have
Sierra's back. Yeah, of course, so it's ten forty seven.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Well wait, on top of that, I think they wouldn't
have Jesse's back. I think they would be like I think,
and the hell out of Sierra and you, well, I
think they would all be like, you shouldn't blame Sierra
for that, you should go for Jesse. And I don't
think Lexi wants to be attached to like a quote
bad guy.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Well, I don't think she was with Jesse at a
table in front of other people.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
She doesn't want that, But she doesn't want the house
to see Jesse as like this quote bad boyfriend, bad guy. Right,
That's why she's like, Emerald, you you put Jesse in
this situation, right, Like Jesse's good, he would never hurt
me on purpose. And Jesse's also presenting it like, well,
everyone is saying we're flirting, but we're not. And Emerald's
the one that dared her to suck my tongue right,

(58:58):
and Lexie's falling for it because that's what twenty six
year old.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, well, I think not even her age. I think
it's what she wants to believe. And I've been there.
It's it's like really hard because she wants this relationship
so bad.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, but if you bring it to the house, they're
gonna be like, first of all, Sierra is a single woman.
Second of all, Jesse's the one you should blame. Third
of all, if you're mad, be man at Jesse and
break up with him, and then Lexi's gonna be faced
with like a decision that she hasn't wanted.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Her second chance will be up.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
She told us, all right, it's two chances.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
So it's ten forty seven pm.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Everyone is staying in except Emerald, which I was like,
thank god, someone is trying to do so.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I know I really do value him. I am really
apologetic that I kind of put it on him. It's
the producers, No, it's the show. I just want more
of him. It's not his fault.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Well, we didn't even see him come home, and I
was like, you could have just given us that one snippet.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Or like, come on, ask him for his cell phone footage,
like give me some. I'd like, you don't have to
show me the whole night, but I want to act like, oh, yeah,
this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
You see them dancing? Yeah, or something less. Lexi and
Jesse are in Jesse and West room. Lexi is a
toe cramp and Jesse's like I could suck, oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
God, back in West's shoes. I'm like, he already had
to spend this car ride with you guys. Now you're
going to do this to him in his own room.
Go to Lexi's room.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
He is melatonin and he's like, can I overdose so
I never wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I would have gone to Gabby's room immediately and been
like throwing that pages like luggage.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Or honestly just going to see her in Page's room
and be like, I just want to say I apologize
for everything I took you for granted last summer. This
was a mistake. I'm going to sleep on the couch downstairs.
But I love and miss you. So I don't think
either though he should be so apologetic, though at this
point there's so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Many things he should be apologetic and like a remorseful
on their friendship and he puts it all on her.
He cannot recognize that. It's like just the situation they're in.
It's not like that's she's keeping this up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I hope he has this terrible summer with Lexing and Jesse.
I hope this is what he's This is his karma.
This is karma. So then Kyle and Carl are in
the kitchen. They talk about Lindsay's outburst and Carl says
it's confusing because clearly Lindsay hasn't healed, and then Carl
says that Lindsay has lied many times about his mother

(01:01:23):
in the media, saying Sharon didn't reach out, but Carl
says that Sharon did text Lindsay, and then Carl says,
she's obsessed with me. Clearly. I was like, okay, you're
being recorded. Stop. I think sometimes they do forget, like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Especially the OG. Yeah, like this is clearly just like
a security you have to own up to it. I
think it's so funny that he's like, she's obsessed with me.
I'm like, no, she's not. She's not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Like I said one year, ten years, I'm bringing this
shit up. If I found out today my high school
ex cheated on me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I don't even think I have his number. I would,
I would, I would find I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Would be like, you better give me your address because
I'm flying over to murder you in person.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Absolutely, that's the only way you should act.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah, if if you didn't act that way, I would question,
that's the only response, like you're in therapy or I'm
in therapy, and I would still do that. No, you're right,
it's those of us in therapy that would that tells
me I have emotions. I know I have my emotions
and check I Also, it's interesting because Sharon did bring

(01:02:35):
up last week that Lindsay was not nice to her
or to Carl, and then it sounds like the beef
is that Sharon didn't text the lin.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Lindsay did say that, either in an interview or on
the show. I do remember hearing that, but like, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Honestly, can I tell you my honest, my honest thought.
First of all, it's not that big a deal. Second
of all, I have a feeling just like because this
would be me, I'm I'm Lindsay. Most of the time,
I would totally block my ex fiance's mom and then
be like, no, I haven't heard from her because I

(01:03:14):
blocked her, but maybe I forgot I was gonna say,
in a state.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Of rage, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
I like that I'm blocking anyone who is at least like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Deleting the number. So then it's like a random number
of that character. So when somebody says like, hey, I
hope you're doing well, it's such a generic message fuck off. Yeah,
I don't know you, and you know what. People are like,
oh wow, Lindsay's not over this because she confronts Carl.
Look at Carl here right now. He's not over this either.
She's like about mine. I think there's so much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
To be more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yes, yeah, because again, but I'm just saying, like, let's
give that same energy to Carl, like he has things
to say, like that's not fair to always put this
shit on the women.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Also, she's literally pregnant with someone else's child. Do you
think she's obsessed with you? Still?

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
The obsessed is like too far. I think I think
that is unfortunate. If like his mom, I understand like
his side being like wow, like my mom texted you,
but you're saying she didn't. But also like she was
so hurt, she's going to lash out, and I don't
think she's like purposely lying. I think it's something like
you said, or she's just like so mad about the
situation and she's like they don't care about me, Like

(01:04:21):
he broke up with me two weeks before or like
a few weeks ago. We didn't get our deposits. His
mom didn't even reach out, Like it's just a big
like you guys suck brand.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah, and like all of that and when is the
right time to hear from your ex experience.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I don't think his mom should have reached out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
No, And that's fine because like I can't I can't
imagine aunt rondas like, Carl Hope, you're doing okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
That situation is slightly different. Alway's gonna be like, hey,
Carl Hope, you're well, thanks for breaking up with my knees.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
But if we if we take the breakup for what
it was, both of them were kind of surprised by it.
Carl swear he didn't go into that conversation ready to
break up. And let's just say that's true. So if
that's yeah, both of them kind of dealt with the
breakup at the same time, if that makes sense. So like, yeah,
they're both going through some shit, and I get that,

(01:05:14):
but like, who does it fucking matter? You're broken up,
You'll never have to see Sharon again. It really like,
is not. Lindsay's actually doing a great thing and keeping
her distance from the soft bar on she doesn't have
to see Sharon.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Girl, your mom was on season eight talking kind of
a little bit of shit about Lindsay rightfully, so I
think I think his mom and step dad shit, all
those things. But then we have her on this season
also saying her piece, like Sharon's fine, Sharon is fine.
She gets to say her piece on this national television show.
Who cares if she's lying about your mom? It's not

(01:05:50):
that deep.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
It's a yeah, it's a very very complex situation. It's
really not that deep. Sharon, if she's really mad about
this needs to maybe like the bridge, get over it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
It's not that deep. Sharon, Also get off the show.
Like you're also actively participating in this beef.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
You're you're like pushing this narrative, like Sharon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Between Sharon and Lindsay. Bravo con like this is becoming
shouldn't be?

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I mean, last season, like you said, it was rightfully done.
But can you imagine then marrying this person and then
seeing this error that would be terrible. So, like Sharon,
we weren't exactly like doing good last like it either way,
what was shown was kind of like not great for Lindsay,
so like maybe hurt her, maybe she blocked you before

(01:06:40):
they even broke, Like I don't know, but like now
you're coming back on and you're like Lindsay's me and yeah,
yeah would be yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Dude, both of them got broken up with basically, so
tired of the girl like label as if like these
people are actually Regina George's like and like strategically making
people's life miserable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Just because like a woman reacts to a situation she's
put in, doesn't mean she's mean. I means she's like
blunt and honest and maybe a little braceve, but like
she's standing up for herself. Get off her back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
No, literally, and Sharon's life changes zero percent if zero
row like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Or like lies on Sharon about one thing in one
random interview.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
No, Sharon's because I would never then go on social
media and be like, oh fuck Sharon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I'd be like Sharon, and if you did, you're weird.
You're weird.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
What are you doing? Like it's just such a weird
situation that like literally just drop it, just just drop.
It's okay. So it's one forty four am. Jesse and
Lexie go back to her room.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Thank god, I free. I never felt bad for Wes
the season except for now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Again, look at it through Wes is He's like, could
you guys stop giggling. It's one in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I would fake fall asleep and snore to get them
out of my room.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
If you were just like, hey, guys, I'm really gassy,
can you get the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Fucks over here?

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yeah, I would just be like, n'm I'm not feeling good. Truly,
everyone's asleep. Emeralds back. So now it's Saturday, August tenth.
No time, have no idea when everyone wakes up, which
I think is very important. I think sometimes at six
am and sometimes it's eleven, And I think that's amazing

(01:08:33):
that like there's so such a different group.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Well we also like didn't see like when Carl woke
up when he went for his run. Like it's just
like a general like the house is alive. So boys
go work out. Paige, Amanda and Sierra talk. They are
still impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
How Lindsay and Carl got their beef done and over
with quick and remember, and then they're all like, remember
when Carl said, I pray for you? And then they're
all like that was crazy, and Sierra's like if a
man told me that, And everyone's like we're three. Oh,
I know that's worse than breaking your engagement to me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
It's up there, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
It's up there with Quirk. It's worse than Quirky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
It's worse than Zany. Lindsay shows with that one, I
would have lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I've been like, don't pray for me. I'm going to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Anyways, there's some things you're gonna need to pray for
me about if if you keep saying you're praying for me, whoop.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
So then Craig keeps telling Paige because Page is like,
guess what Greig says to me in fights? Okay, Paige, Well,
I'm not perfect, and Page is like, literally, no one
would ever think he's perfect, no one would confuse him perfect.
We'll get there. So Lindsay's making breakfast for everyone. She's like, hey,

(01:09:49):
tomorrow is my birthday. I'm thirty eight, but she doesn't
really care about because like she's thirty eight. It's not
she's pregnant. Yeah, it's her last birthday. It's her last
birthday before she's a mom. And Jess he's like, before
you're a milk baby, which les he didn't get jealous
because Lindsay's literally pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
That would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Okay, She's like, stop hitting on this pregnant woman. It's
not funny. So then Emerald comes in the kitchen. Carl
comes down, but he goes outside. This is when Page
and Sierra walked by Carl's bed and they're like, it's weird,
it's not made. Is he okay to be so well?

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Like, I find this so sweet that they know by
the way his room is something's off.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
That's like a really nice thing. So Emerald goes outside
checks on Carl. Carl's like, oh, I'm just a little emotional,
which I thought Emerald was really nice. He's like, do
you want to be alone? And Carl's like, no, it's cool.
I'm just like reflecting on my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
I love that he just sits there. He doesn't like
engage him in too much conversation, like he lets Carl
like talk when he's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah, I think it's the right amount. Because Emerald is like, oh, man,
that's I hate when people say like, oh, I'm so sorry,
because it's like, what are you gonna say? It's okay,
it's not okay, but like thanks. But Emerald is just
kind of like, man, that that sucks terrible, and Carl's
like uh or talks to Emerald about his brother's death

(01:11:09):
and how that helped Carl like almost keep living in
a way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
And what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
So then we're back in the house and Page like
yells outside. She's like, hey, Carl, you didn't which I
was like, this is really nice, but also like crazy,
like it just the way it kind of happened.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I think it's like had she known what was going
on or like that, she would have never never. But
like if I because I think she thinks he's upset
about yesterday. This is a total normal reaction if it
was just she thinks it's a house Yeah, she thinks
it's a house discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So she's like, hey, Carl, your bread's not made, are
you okay? And Carl's like, yeah, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
That's the worst one. Your wage just like through tears
a little bit, and you're like everybody to know I'm
having it like an emotional moment, so.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Paige was like okay, and then that's when Lindsay tells
everyone else. She's like, hey, it's the anniversary of his
brother's death. And then Lindsay Page of course is like,
oh my god. In the whole house is like holy shit.
I think it's really also beautiful that Lindsay remembers that
because not saying that Kyle didn't but it might have
like the time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I think Linda's factor though too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It definitely is, but she wouldn't remember it no matter what,
though I think she would because I mean, she was
the first one he told that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Was really hit me in the fact that like their
loss of friendship is He's like way deeper than just
not having a friend, and like, this breaks my heart
for both of them, because I'm sure there are things
like not maybe to this exact level of like your
brother passing, but there have to be life moment like
I'm sure Lindsay would love for her friend Carl to

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be able to be there when she has her first child.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Yeah, because I'm sure they thought that for maybe not
the first year, for but for at least like eight
years at this point, they've thought like we'll be in
each other's lives forever and this is the first year
that they're like, no, we won't, yeah, which is weird.
And then also like it made me think about because
I think it was a COVID year right that his

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brother passed literally like what it was heartbreaking. We watched
Carl like get the call. We watched him like run
into Lindsay almost like make her up, and she was
with stray Baker up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
She was with Straviy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
She like exited the she went into the hall, I
can still picture it, and he like told her and
they just hugged and she was like whatever you need.
She helped him like pack to like get out of there.
She told like other people in the house and was like,
this is what's going on with Carl. Like she really
did step up as a friend and take care of him,
which I think in a way also made him like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Love her more.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
And I think that's why maybe they moved very quickly
in the relationship they got together. But they did really
have this beautiful friendship bond everything, and it broke my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Like a lot, I know, And I wonder if this
date specifically it is hard because it's next to Lindsay's
birthday and she was the one who helped him through
it that, Like, not only does he sit there with
his brother's past saying, but now he has to think
also about like not having Lindsay through it all too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
And he's in this house, Like I'm sure if he
wasn't on this cast, he would be with his mom, yeah,
with Blue right now, but instead he's in this house
and like, yeah, he has friends, but like Lindsay was
always the person he met this day with before, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Because he because of them being in the house. If
it ever fell on a weekend, she's with him. Like
they're always in the city pretty much then for the summer,
and so like I'm sure she was with him if
it fell on a week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
And they were engaged and they went through that, Like yeah,
so there's like a lot of levels.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Oh, this broke me so hard because I just I
feel like this is where the breakup hits the hardest
for them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, So Wes and Kyle go outside, give him a hug.
Ky or Carl talks about his brother passing away on
the tenth. He though, got the call on the eleventh,
which was Lindsay's birthday, So obviously it is a memory
for Carl as well, and so he says, there's obviously
like a lot of emotions and weird attachment, and he

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just feels like it's different this year. He's had to
sit with a lot of feelings, especially like after last
night arguing with Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
And so if you've always had somebody like to hold.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Your nay through it, and the boys are like let
out the emotions, I think it's hard too, because that
person's always been Lindsay that he like got the emotion.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
And I can't imagine Lindsay like there is I don't
believe for one second that she wouldn't want to help
comfort him. But given everything, it's not her place. She
doesn't want to be that person, and rightfully so. But
I her saying that to the house of like reminding them,
like I could hear a little bit how choked up
she was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
I did too, and I thought it was nice that
she like was like, hey, just so everyone knows, like
in a way still kind of like protecting Carl and
like letting everyone else know like you should be here
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Yes, yes, Oh I just got to Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
It's so like, oh, my emotions Anyway, it's twelve fifty
eight pm. Because you know how we're gonna celebrate today.
We're gonna go watch Kyle DJ. It is a full
we can watch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
It was a lot back to I could not ease
into this DJ set because it was kind of crazy.
It was a blur. I like did not retain this
because the only conversation I retained was Page and Sierra
because I was just still stuck on those emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
No, okay, yeah, literally they are immediately like let your
emotions out, let's go to a DJ event.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
And I was like, who this is a moment to
cut the episode and like stop it here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Yeah, here's the other thing. If you haven't been if
you are new to Summerhouse, this transition totally fine. If
you have been sitting here for nine seasons dissecting the
show as we have, this hits so hard, as we
just told you, and now you were like, okay, we're
gonna go watch like this white guy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Dressed with crocheted shirts and bucket had and like whoop
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Imagine Kyle being like, oh man, let your emotions out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
But like in twenty minutes, we got get ready for
my set. No, I think that's exactly. I mean, not
the twenty minutes, but I think that's what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Anyway, dude, I'll I dedicate my DJing to you today.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
No yuck, No, No he didn't actually did it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I'm saying because the vibe I'm getting, the vibe the
party they go to is like ninety percent women. Emerald
West both excited. I can't wait to get in anyway,
Amanda Page and Sierra like sit and like joke around.
But this is when Paige is like, I'm having anxious
energy and so that's like she's like, leave.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
More shadowing for later.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
And then Sierra and Carl talk, which I was like,
I know we're on TV and we got to do it,
but please don't bring up his brother like right now
at this party.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Like if he does, obviously engage with him, but like
why yeah, her, you were also there that summer. No,
it's so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
I would have just been like, hey, are you good
and if he wants to talk about it, great, But
Sierra's like, hey, man, I know it's the anniversary and
I was like, no, we are listening to Edam music.
It's such an.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Awkward we're in it. It's not like rose picnic tables
and had their own sidebar.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
You are in it, my god, Wessy Wessey, you keep
adding people's names to Jesse.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
You did Lessie earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Lessie. Lessie and Wessie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
His two like romances.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
No, literally, Wes and Jesse are like behind him talking
about like getting some ass. You got page and Sierra
with their page and Amanda with their sunglasses judging everyone.
Kyle setting up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
His giving his shout out to goods brother.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Ye shout out to terrible. We got Lindsay dancing pregnant,
and Sierra's like, hey, it's the universary of your brother's dad.
It was just so if I was Carl, don't bring
it up to me when we're in public, because I'm
gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Like, just don't don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Kill the vibe. You know, the vibe might never recover
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Liked especially because like I mean, I guess this is
a benefit of him being sober, as I would have
been a train wreck, then I would.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Have aspired at least, yes, because he was very sad sober,
I cannot imagine drug emotions.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Like thank god he is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Also, can we maybe talk about too, because Carl was
like has had his sober journey, a big part of
because of his brother's death. Why are we now at
a party where there's like tons of temptations, Hey, I'm
gonna be mean? Is that crazy to say I'm going
to be mean?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
There is no way Kyle knew this date at all.
I don't think this party would have happened give it
like had Kyle. But I think Kyle needs to learn
to be a better friend and listen. Not everybody's memory
is the same, so I'm not blaming just core memory.
Put this fucking date in your ca like put it
in your calendar. And I'm sorry, but Amanda shouldn't have

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to do this for like her husband, but also like Amanda,
like you should be on this too. You're also like
Carl's friend.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
No, literally was a wild I go back to the
kitchen when Paige like yells to Carl shuts the door,
and Lindsay's the one going like, hey not Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Kyle then go outside till Lindsay told him the day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Wild crazy Kyle didn't check it on Carl at all
until Lindsay told him the date.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Like most of this cast, a good chunk of this
cast was there when it happened, and I get that
maybe because like Lindsay was all in on everything. You
don't have the date saved, but page from here on now,
you better put that in your calendar, like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Paige Sierra, they don't really have to remember even a man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Kyle though, is his best friend, business partner, like he married,
he married you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Yeah, come on, dude, and then you're just like pack
your bags, We're going to watch me DJ set wild anyway,
So Sierra's like, hey, anniversary, and Carl says he just
wants to feel something today, so he took a run
to the tree that him and Lenzy plant. See Dad
is like tied to Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
True, I'm like yeah this, Oh, I love that he
planted that tree.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Yeah. Him and Lindsay went out. They found like a
spot in the Hampton's planted this tree and memory of
always talks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
About running to this spot and this makes more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yes, which would also be heartbreaking because you just want
someone to probably go with you to this tree, and
that person would be Lindsay, but you can't take her,
like when it had been nice for Carl or Kyle
to run with Carl to this tree.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
If Carl wanted that's the thing, is like kind of
needs to start rewriting over some memories a little bit,
or like yeah, having different meanings or different rituals with people,
not lindsay, to have like his support system, his friends
will step up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Yeah. I also don't know who cut this episode, but
like literally we learn like, oh, I just ran to
this tree that we planted, and it cuts to Page
and Amanda just like sitting in their sunglasses, and I
was like, no, God.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Again, I did not retain a lot of this, like
you telling me this, I know what's happening, but I'm like,
this is so jarring.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So then Sierra says, like, Carl, you're doing great. You're
walking in your purpose. She wipes her tears in her hair.
She's wild. And then we cut to a man in
Page and they're like Sierra and Carl would make a
hot cup. And I was like, Yo, where can we
just a minute? Just give me a minute. We're about

(01:22:32):
to move on from this segment any day. He put
this in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
And them, Yeah, for them to have that conversation because
they don't know what's happening. But producers, you do this
like comes it's so insensitive. It doesn't need to be
at anything anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
So then Wes and Jesse talk and Jesse has noticed
that they're all these girls. But he asked Jesse to
stare for the both of them because he's trying to
like he's trying to be incident free today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
This stuff would piss me off if I was watching
the show back as LEXI, like, you shouldn't have to
try this hard not to be a douchebag. And that's
to all men out there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
You shouldn't have to try this hard to not be
a douchebag. Put it on a shirt. It's so it
shouldn't be the same.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
He acts like he's cutting a limb off by not
looking at when.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
He's giving up his freedom. He can't believe this is
equal to prison for him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
This is why happ so many guys are like resentful
in relationships because they feel like they're giving something up
to be in a relationship with a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
And it's like, no, guess what you're gaining the ability
to hang out with me all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
You're welcome. This is why a lot of men are.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Undtable, Like a ton of Jenny is undatable.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
He's undatable unless he's actually just like how he views
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Yeah, at least like Wes wasn't last year. I mean,
he didn't commit to Sierra totally. He wasn't acting like
this that he wasn't even like exclusive with Sierra. They
weren't even sleeping together, and he still wasn't going around
like look at all the ladies. I want to add, because.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Layer's of difference. I don't think that you should act
like women don't exist, because that's also like living in
a delusion land. But like you can just appreciate human
existence and just being like, oh, yeah, she's really cute
to your friend, without oogling so hard or acting like, yeah,
like dying if you don't like, look at all these
hot women out there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah, like you gotta just do it for me? What
the fuck? Yeah? Crazy. So Jesse says that him and
Lexi are in a good place, but Lexi did notice
that Jesse has been following girls on Instagram since they met,
and immediately Jess or Wes is like, no, dude, stop
and Jesse's unfollowed. Then a bunch of girls and Lexi

(01:24:56):
commented on it again and said, like they do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
This is wild, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Wes was like, dude, are you Wes cannot believe again
he's anything else out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
He'll he'll literally go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Home with Carl and cry before he'll talk about this.
At this point, he.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
The third time this weekend he's been trapped in this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
No, he can't have a conversation with Jesse that does
not revolve around Lexi. Yeah, and he's over it. Let
Jesse doesn't even ask Wes how you do it. He's
just like, guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
He's like, this is all right, we're picking up the
topic we just dropped off at the house.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Yeah. So then Jesse's like, I'm going to get a
second opinion with Page. So he tells Paige and Page
is like, here's the thing, buddy, Lexi is only twenty six.
This is giving off like twenty six year old the question.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
When I was younger, this is I didn't look like this.
I wasn't on it, But this is I understand the
frustration as a younger.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
You're kind of like insecure. Even if if you're the
most secure, you're still insecure in your twenties. Yeah, like
there's still this insecurity.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
This was the energy I had in college for sure,
not to say like LEXI shouldn't have it or like, oh,
college meeting was better than or like I've grown out
of it faster. I just did. I think I stopped
caring what boys did, just in general, but we just
we just were screwed at age. And we were also
in COVID during twenty six, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Didn't give a shit what men were doing at that point.
But yeah, Lexi, you know, she's this is very twenty six.
I can't imagine Lexi's ever ever struggled for the male's attention.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
But I think underlying, she knows that there are problems here,
So she's it's one of those things like you if
you feel compelled to look at somebody's phone or somebody's Instagram,
like there are other issues going on, and you were
just trying to find supporting data on whether like you
should trust your gut or not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
And on top of like, already at twenty six, you're
just immature. No matter what, Lexi has expressed that she's jealous,
she's expressed that she has body image issues, she's expressed
that she.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Was bullied for many years. No matter what that's about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
She still has that's extra insecurity, that still lives within
her something and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
He needs to work on separately on her own own.
But what Jesse is doing is not is like also
really shitty. Yes, so she needs to obviously do this
on her own. But then, like, you're a media have
feelings for this guy who already has like all these
relationships with girls and publicly comments on their Instagram profiles,

(01:27:35):
and now you're going to be publicly like you see
publicly people shipping like him and Paige and him and
Amanda and him and Lindsay and with all these other
people that like literally won't date him, but there is
extra pressure to that, so like, yeah, so Page basically
lays it out for him and is like, so the
question is can you deal with it because like she's
this is what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Yeah, but you're Let's be honest, Jesse wanted to sleep
with her, so he went exclusive with her because that's
the only way Lexi would sleep with him, and so
he basically used Lexi for.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Here's the thing. I don't find it bad for somebody
to become exclusive with someone so they can sleep with someone.
But the thing is is your behavior needs to match.
Like what you're saying is you chose to do this,
You chose to be exclusive so like be exclusive and
care about what that means to someone, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Like, actually care about the person because he doesn't like Lexi.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
He just wants to sleep with her, wants to sleep
with her. He likes It's just like yes, the idea
of Lexi and like what he's getting out of it.
And so yeah, that's fine if you want to be
shallow in your relationships and you just want to sleep
with this girl, but like, don't put her through the
ringer because of yours.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Don't say you love her and you want to be
exclusive and like just be I just want to Yeah,
I just want to sleep with you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
It just it boggles my mind. And I also do
want to know how many people it was, like what
how quickly? Like how often is she checking? Because like
those factors also sway how I feel about each one
of them doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
But also page is like checking the followers is tame.
Some of us have done crazy. You know, I think
I'm stopping the dude I'm talking to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
I have done some and recently, I I you give
me information, I will try to assess it. I the
minute I know there's information available, I will be checking it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
The minute I go on more than two or three
dates with a man. I look up everything there is
to know about him. Have you ever had a crush
where you're just like, he doesn't even know your last name,
and you're like, I could give you his whole family
line LINEA, yes, I you have his twenty three and meters,
you have that finger.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
I love obscure ways to get information. I had a
guy I liked who did a charity cycling thing and
it showed his route. I knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
I knew when he was at work.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I knew what was happening. It's basically like I am
on Find my Friends. I checked probably every other.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Day before I deleted Snapchat. I got snap blocking the
shit out of people's because.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
So many people forgot that they turned on their location there.
I was floored when people gave access to that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Where are they like, I, this is Tate. I mean,
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
She commented on it. That's how you know we're they
follow up comment is what makes me. I'm like, girly,
you could have just done that in silence and been happy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
It's crazy, but like, yeah, if Jesse met my parents,
you best believe I have tabs on it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
What I don't think guys, realize is a lot of
us are doing this stuff. Jesse's or Lexi's just saying
it out loud. She just told you she was doing it,
which I think was Page's point.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
She was like, I was knocking on doors to like
yell at men like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
You, because if I'm not doing it, my friends are
doing it. Oh, this is this is our part time
job for most girls.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
My favorite when you like someone and you find their
LinkedIn but you're like, I can't click it because then
he might see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
You have to get really random person to look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
You send it to your friend with premium.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
And that's not even safe. You got to make sure
that they're not really connected to you too much because
if they if the guy has premium, he can also
still see who it is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Then he has his college. You can figure out a time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
He tells you good details.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
No literally easy. Fine, So Jesse's Jesse's tame, He's not
dealing with shit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Yeah, so this is, yeah, the easy level of stalking.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
So Jesse thought he was taking the right steps, but
he keeps getting caught up in like these little things
like but Lexi and Jesse have been good for like
five days and Page's like, dude, you've known her a month.
It's kind of crazy that you already have to say
you made up with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Yeah, Like you had such a big fallout that you
had to like she went home crying, you had to
buy her flowers, you went to her favorite place, and
you had to need the parents to make it okay
in one week and one week insane.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
So its time for Kyle the DJ. Danielle's also here
because she loves DJs. Sierra holds up her phone and says,
that's my roommate, and he plays his song not a Dream,
And can I just say, as someone who has listened
to EDM for many, many years, I've seen a lot
of shows, I've gone to a lot of DJ like
I have my favorite artists.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
I know all about it. I would like to say.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
The song started pretty basic, with the basic beat that
I was like, oh, this could be any fucking DJ,
like you have to separate yourself and give me something.
And then he had the vocals that said not a
Dream a few times it was a little off from
the beat, and I didn't like the vocals. If you're
gonna get vocals on your EDM track, it has to
be the most unique interesting voice. This was not that

(01:32:48):
there was no big beat drop, but I will say
the beat after the vocals and the mini beat drop
was like kind of okay. I do, however, think it
can get lost in because there are so many DJs
out in the world that cover songs that do this.
Do that you have to really separate your sound, and
so I think it could get lost. But I think
he should do a whole song with the beat that

(01:33:08):
was after the mini work.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
On it, like there's there's place, there's room to grow here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
But I only liked that one part. Like I literally
was like, so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
What would you rate it? One through ten?

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
The little snippet I heard would probably be like A
A two.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
I really hated the vocals.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
I'm really big on like take me on a journey
on your song.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
I sound crazy, You don't because this fascinating because I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I like, I like taking a lot of drugs and
going to these shows. Put that on the internet. I
used to do it as a kid. I still kind
of like it, but the vocals really got me. And
if you start the song and it's just this basic
boom boom boom, like fucking take me on a Trip
add one of my favorite groups, Odessa. They add percussion

(01:33:59):
and horns and you're just like, holy shit that they
have the craziest vocals.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
This was like not a dream, not a dream, not
a dream.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
And then it it was like ooh pooh, and you
I was like, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
It was all right, he's still in the beginning beginner.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Paces he's clearly and I say this too. I have
a friend from high school who one day became a DJ,
and his early work was rough. Everyone was like, it's
so good. I got to share it, and I was like,
I can't rightfully share this to people because it is
not it. He's getting better. Love that he dropped shit
this summer and I was like, this kind is that

(01:34:37):
the one who played that Red Rocks?

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
So yes. So he did his show at Red Rocks
and some of it. I was like, I don't know,
but some of the songs did hit.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
So you're getting better. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
So it might be a while.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
So when Kyle is sixty, maybe he'll he'll be amazing,
Maybe he'll play Red Rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
We'll see anyway, So then see her and Page go
off to top. They try getting down a hammock, Butzia
falls right off that shit, and so they go at
a picnic table. Sierra checks in about the Craig situation.
Page says she just doesn't feel supportive but supported by Craig.
Sierra doesn't want Craig to steal the shine from Page's tour,

(01:35:19):
and what Craig is giving is hat boyfriend energy. Like
why should Paige have to dim her light just to
make him feel comfortable? Like what will look like when
they get married? Is Craig thinking that Paige is gonna
work less if they get married? And Page is like, yeah,
he probably is. But Page, Paige also like her and
Craig do live this life right now, this lifestyle, and

(01:35:42):
she can't rely on just Craig to provide the same
lifestyle if she stops working and she wants to keep
her lifestyle, which I get fine. Paige doesn't even want
to live in Charleston, and she told Craig, She's always
told Craig she didn't want to raise a family in Charleston.
I think she's always kind of clear about that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Yeah, the feeling part she has, but it's okay for
her to grow and change her mind. Early on she
was open because that's what Craig was more vocal about
what he wanted to start, and I think she really
found her voice and what she wanted and not really
her voice. She's always got her voice, but I think
she has reflected and figured out what she wants.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Yeah, And if I remember correctly, I think he was like,
eventually we'll get married, have kids, and she was like, yeah,
yeah whatever. And he's like, eventually you'll move to Charleston
and she was like, yeah, yeah whatever. And to him
those two things like intertwined, but to her like they
kind of didn't. But then it really did start to
be like he'd be like, moved to Charleston and she'd
say okay, but then he'd say like, we'll raise kids

(01:36:41):
in Charleston. She was like no, yeah, Like that was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
A hard She really, over the last three years has
eased into know and we've seen it on the show.
And I believe fully that she was vocal behind the scenes.
There's no way they weren't having these conversations. But I agree.
I think Craig always heard what he wanted to hear,
and he heard that one yes and thought I can
persuade her back. It'll be fine, We'll figure it out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
And on the other side of the coin, Craig did
agree at one point to raise kids in New York,
but now that that chip is getting closer, Craig isn't
so sure about that, which.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Hearing about that in my time about Craig saying like, oh,
but I was about to move to New York. I
don't fucking believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
You. He wouldn't make.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
It until your boxes are packed and you've called the mover.
You're not moving. You're thinking about moving, you're talking about moving,
but you're not actually doing it until those boxes are
in a truck on their way up there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
I'm a hater.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Craig would never make it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
He wouldn't. He wouldn't. He's not.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
I think he would have her. I think I I
just don't. Just like Page does not work in Charleston,
he does not work here, and that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Yeah, so uh. Page also says she's the breadwinner. Why
wouldn't he move to her? Which I think is a
very important thing to win.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
I appreciate when people don't talk about their finances too much,
but I am not that shocked. But I was like, Dan, Yes,
girls stand on that people keep thinking that Craig is
the one who's doing everything, and I think he is
very successful. That's not to put him down, but when
she's making more of the money and probably like paying
more for their stuff, I mean at some.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Point, I mean, if you think about it, he has
a podcast no one listens to No Offense, but he
has two stores that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
She has partners for, which he also.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Has partners for. But he does make money off the stores.
He I'm sure makes a little money off the podcast,
and I'm sure he does some brand deals, right, Great
Page has a very successful podcast that I'm sure she
gets a lot of money from. She's about to go
on tour which she's about to rag in the cash
for that like the Today style, Like she's a Today's

(01:39:00):
She goes on the Today Show. She does Amazon Lives
all the time. She does so many more brand sponsorships.
I think she has a DSW one. That's how you know,
Like I don't know what Craig is doing because I
can't name his partnerships. Page I can name like almost
all of them, right, because like they're so the same.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Argument of Carl and Lindsay last year. It is a
lot easier to be a female influencer than a male influencer,
So of course she's going to get more deals. But
that goes to the conversation like money talks, she's the
one making more in their future is on both of
their careers. But like hers, I think is more so
anchored in her personality of being in New York, the
Today Show correspondent, all of that stuff, her podcast, like

(01:39:40):
it's always done live. His isn't, or like in the
same room.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Yeah, her fashion is very New York esque. Imagine moving
to Charleston, You're not gonna have the same following because
the New York fashion is up there with you know,
the Paris, the Milan, the places that have these fashion shows.
There's no Charleston Fashion Week. I'm like, but like it's
not the same thing. But like what She's gonna walk

(01:40:04):
around Charleston and the and like take pictures on the
beach in her black leather pants.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Like it's just because like we see Vanita on Southern
Charm amazing influencer, very Southern like Charleston Southern charm esque,
and it like we're just so her personality.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
Yeah, that's not Page's personality, that's not her brand. Like
you said, she's got to be at the Today Show,
she's got to be with Hannah to record this podcast.
She's making a lot more money, and like it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
And it would suck to like question everything you're doing
for the person who's supposed to love you the most.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Yeah, so Paige has said to Crag or yeah, Page
has said to Craig, like if this isn't what you want,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Dot dot dot.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
But Sierra's like, here's the thing, though, you're putting it
on him, and it's easier to give another person the
out instead of like digging deep and determining like is
this what you want?

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Which I think is if we're seeing her right in
that crossroads. I think all summer and for a little bit,
she has wanted it to be Craig's decision if he
wants her life or not, rather than does Page want
to be in this relationship or not? And I think
that's what she did all fall is decide that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
I agree, And it is easier to be like, if
you don't want to do this, then break up with
me kind of thing, so then you don't have to
make the hard decision. I mean, I have totally become
crazy just to make people break up with me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
I think a lot of that will do do a
lot of like guys and girls do it. It's so
much easier to be when you don't want to be
in the relationship, to just have someone break up with you.
You feel a lot less guilt rather than just doing
it yourself exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
And then there's also a lot less questioning of like
did I do the right thing? Because you didn't make
the decision, so you're just passing your princessing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
But like no, and Sierra and sorry that she calls
her up. This is a true friend, Like, this is
what good friends need to do for you, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
So Paige says she loves Craig and she gets upset
thinking of them breaking up, But she's also conflicted because like,
if she feels this strongly for him, why would like
why wouldn't she want to make compromises for him? But
then like why should she have to compromise on things
that she wants? This is really feels like, yeah, she's
really in She's really because.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
I do think Craig was a good boyfriend to her.
I do think that they had a good like relationship,
just in a general sense, but it's very clear as
day that they just don't work. And I think they
probably would have loved for it just to work out,
but some things don't, Like not everybody is meant to
be with each other, and that's hard. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
I mean, I also think I believe in right person,
wrong time, and I believe in wrong person right time. Right,
Like maybe they both want to get married, but it's
not the person they're aligned with. Yeah, which is hard
to be the right person for that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
In Page's own breakup statement, she said, like there was
nothing major that happened, and now that is harder, like
when you don't really have like a really big reason.
Like Page wants to be a compromising person. She wants
to like work with her partner and make them happy,
and I'm sure Craig truly did want to make Page
happy too, but like this life, it does not work

(01:43:16):
with each other.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
I mean, but if we listen to what Craig said,
they might have gotten back together and gotten married at Bravocat.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
What we missed out on that is just that is
just delusional person.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Delusional time.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
I loved everyone being like, that's not something I got
to laugh. So Sierra doesn't want Page to keep going
into this if it's not compatible with her future. This
is going to be like a lifelong tussle for her
if she'd go, if she keep seeing Craig, this is
never going to die. And Page just doesn't know if

(01:43:54):
Craig's her person still, And I stand by wrong person
right time, Like they both are down to get married
and make a future. However they can't agree on it
because it's not the right person.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
I also worry people are like gonna vilify her over
the rest of the season for like having these conversations
when it's like you're allowed to work these things out
with your friends, you're allowed to question things, and decided
this right for me. And then I really think that she,
like she said here, loved him so much and didn't
see them breaking up, like didn't want it to end.

(01:44:23):
But that doesn't mean it's right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Also, like, y'all, if you're gonna villainize her, go watch
Southern Charm. They're doing the same thing over there. They're
talking about the relationship. It's not the same because she
he didn't want the relationship to end. Well, no, I
was gonna say, Craig is just a little more like
oblivious to the problems, but they still are talking about
the problems because Austin brings it up. Yeah, like, hey man,

(01:44:47):
you're different, You're not the same, You're changing. And even
if that's like a different issue, it still goes back
that they did. Your relationship is a problem. Issues on
there's some problem happening in this relationship. Yeah, it was
brought up on both sides, and like we talked about
it in both ways, and like then you can see

(01:45:08):
both of what's happening. You can see Craig very much
like all I do is sit around in garden and
that's not the life Page lives, right, So you could
sit here all day and be like, oh Page is
giving a Craig is giving Craig a hard time, like
blah bla blah. No, Craig literally doesn't leave his house,
even his friends haven't seen him for years, So like
what and she makes it so clear to him then too,

(01:45:30):
like I don't want to build a farm with you.
Why are we making honey in our backyard when we
could just buy that. You see their differences, which I
think is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Important, Like yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
And you see it more on Southern Charm, just because
they're like living their normal life.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Yeah, whereas like Summer House is like a party fantasy Lands.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Yeah, you like hear Craig literally just being like when's
the next time I'm gonna see you? When are you
flying in again? Instead of like when can I go
see you? It's always like Paige, when are you coming here?
Like you just see a different side that you could
be like again, similar to Lindsay and Carl, It's just
like it's not gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
It's hard the audience to get to is it is
just like Lindsay and Carl, Like this is clear as
day to me that these do not work. The breakup
makes so much sense. I'm so happy that they put
like it all on their shows because this makes sense
in my brain, no shock.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
And I'm happy he's crashing out because now I'm like,
how do people day?

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Craig, Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Question mark, question marks. As I always sat justice for Naomi.
I was always one of her defenders. I do not care.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
I did see a TikTok video the other day that
was like, if your boyfriend went to law school and
he was sitting there sewing, you would also have a problem,
and I was like, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Literally, she provided him the house and was working and
he she would come back and the dishes weren't dye.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Yeah, and the only reason his sewing business is successful
is because of the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Because everyone felt bad for the man that got yelled
at by the hard working, abrasive, rude women. No, fuck that.
I always was team Naomi because I would have.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
A judge of character on the women.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
For sure. I would have crashed out if I saw that.
It's because I'm I'm my dad. My own father has
described me as abrasive. He said when my mom was like,
I can't wait for you to get a husband one day,
my Dad's like, she never will, she's too abrasive. And
that's when I went, well, maybe guys should be like
more willing to deal with my abrasiveness.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Like no, I love that because I think I internalize
and project issues then onto the abrasive and like powerful
women is yeah, I'm like, wow, how do I do
it less for me? So I'm like they should be
doing less? Well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Yeah, a lot of people, I mean look at like
Lindsay or Nail or whoever, and they're like, let's do
Lindsay because that's the show and are like, oh, I
don't want to be Lindsay because she's crazy, or like
the audience hates her or or whatever where she's just
sitting around like fuck you man, and fuck your mom
for not texting me, like she's just she's out here sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I think I wasn't willing to own it because they
bilified her and I was part of it. I'll own it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Listen, ask someone who has been the hated for her
whole life. I always say on this podcast, I think
if we had to take a poll, I think people
are one hundred percent more likely to keep Meredith and
kick me off. And I'm fine with that because I
don't give I'm fine with it to this point. Yeah,
of course you are because you're a pick me No,
It's okay, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
They just picked me. I'm not a pick mey. They
just pick me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Yeah, but I'm the one that's I'm gonna stand in
my truth and be like if you don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
We need that in the world, like you need people
to stand on business.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Hell yeah, I would go nuts, similar to everyone's Like
Lindsay was so bad when Carl was just trying to
like open a sports bar.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
No, I do stand by. That was the badest decision.
But like for four.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Months this man, do what you want to do. But
he was going to do a podcast. Sure, he's going
to open a sober sports bar. He was going to
be a motivational speaker. What same thing with Naomi. What
are we doing? Why are you just sitting on your ass?
Don't tell me you're going to say something? Do something,
fucking action, baby. Yeah, it's the year of well not really,

(01:49:23):
but I wish it was the year of the woman,
because I feel like on TV we're getting there. It
just in real life we're taking I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
We had little pulses, like we had Barbie and we
had this, and we had Alreadyana and we had Lindsay there,
we're getting spikes of the psiolorphy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
But let's dare I say the state of the world
has made women have to band together. We have to
support each other, we have to be abrasive, we have
to be rude, and we have to stand up against the.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Making is what has been quiet done for me?

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Literally?

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Like, let's mix it up, people, Like what is turning
against a woman done for me?

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
No? Soft hugs.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Not in this don't squeezier, don't squats the opposite of
like soft hugs, punches to the face, like get out
of here.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
We do not meet the men with comfort.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
As I got yelled at today for this. I will
stand on this. These men suck the one.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Oh my god, do you want to share that really quick?
What you talked about it? And also too, let's talk
about it on Also well, I think now we should
just mention it because it is summerhouse related.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
I was gonna plug it on also to make people
listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
No, I think we should just if you want to
hear the full story. We did get a DM from
one of the cast members about how we were being
saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
And it was really inconsiderate to say that during this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
My ass, I get it. But also I hadn't really quick,
I hadn't watched this episode recommendations. This was my take,
which I did.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
I did police one of them for that reason.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
But like again, and I I said we should post this.
It was posted. You then were like, oh, this is
called the anniversary of Carl's brother's death. It's like a
big point in the last third of the episode. It
really wasn't that big. If anything, the producers made it

(01:51:25):
less of it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
It was just in the last third of the episode.
I don't think it was the theme of the whole episode, like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Does the next half of the episode only.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
No, no, no, no no. I just meant like it is
like in the last third of it. But we agreed
two things can be true at the same time. This
is a verad episode. But also, these men fucking suck.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
The day of we go to a DJ event. You're
gonna that's so true. You guys didn't take it seriously.
Don't put that on me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
These men suck, These men sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Fuck. Yeah, all right, you're so right. So next time
on Summerhouse, Paige and Sierra are crying about the Craig drama.
Lexi and her mom and sister talk about Jesse's flirting.
Jesse and Sierra touch a little and Jesse says, don't
touch me too much, and Sierra is pissed, and then
she's she's pissed after when she's talking to her friends

(01:52:19):
about it too. So yeah, yeah, so ah, Meredith, who's
your fun? Not fun? Let's do not fun first, Let's
end on a high. It's Jesse, I mean, yeah, stop, No,
I get it. I just I can't. One day I'm
gonna pick Jesse. No, no, I gotta think of it just.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Drives me not It's like him and Lexi. But like,
I'm not gonna put this shit on Lexi.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
No, I was a hard Lexi defender this episode. I'm
gonna go with Kyle because A he definitely didn't remember
so bad Carl's brothers passing, and B we have to
then go to his DJ event and see I gave
a song at two out of ten, So that's where
we're at. Who's your fun?

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
And I gotta give it to Lindsay on a Lindsay
Stand these Days. That was electric.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
That was so good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
It was so good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
And honestly, you know what, because I like to think
we do these as a team because we have the
same ideas. So Lindsay's also my pig. But I'm going
to give it also to my due. I was hoping
you because electric. This was the first episode Carl really
didn't give me the egg. If anything, I felt bad
for him. I was like, I didn't feel bad man.

(01:53:31):
Well outside of the get this man out of this
DJ event.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
I felt like empowered to be his friend this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Yeah, I didn't dislike it. Hell yeah, So we do
have a few comments episode from Megan d So. She says,
Paige and Lindsay's friendship is beautiful. I'm glad we finally
got there. Gabby should really be a friend of at
this point. Oh my god, forgot Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
I only thought about her because when I do my
little quotes every week, I was like, oh, put her
to the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
It feels like the third weekend she hasn't been around.
Jesse saw everything that happened between once Wes and Sierra
and really said, how can I do everything they did
but work? No? Literally, and poor West has to be
a part of it now like he is in his situation.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
Jesse's like taking down Wes with this and just being
like a massive douchebag. Yeah ding it So glad.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Yeah, so glad. Carl and Lil are done because Homegirl
was awkward as hell. She also posted a video and
was like, sure, make fun of the girl who's living
her life, took us who took a risk? She did
that TikTok sound. You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
It was funny, it hit, it hit, But when.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Someone I think you made the comparison to Joe from
vandr Pump Rules. You can't see it once you're there,
once you're compared to her. It's crazy, But she's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
The social media crash out in the funny way. I'm
enjoying it. She's not embarrassing herself more. Joe really anchored herself.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
But poor poor homegirl lost a man and a lemon
that day. So loved the dinner organized by Jesse, Paige
and Amanda's faces when Carl said, that's probably true, I
think that was what That was my favorite character crazy.
And why are Jesse and Sierra sitting next to each
other at dinner? Ooh, that's right, Casierra was between Jes.

Speaker 1 (01:55:28):
They sent Lexie down a chair too. She's she's fresh meat.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
She's in the middle. Carl versus Lindsay was hilarious because
Lindsay is super pregnant upset about something Carl did when
they have no proof of doing anything. I do love
how the fight started and ended at the table. Agreed.
Lindsay getting shut down was kind of nice because we
don't get many of those moments. I know, but she didn't.

(01:55:55):
I'll fight for her. She she got, she didn't get
shut down.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
She that with well, this is the timeline I'm given,
so reverse Lexi taking her anger out on anyone but
Jesse is insert eye roll. No.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Literally, if Emerald gets any more blame, I'm gonna know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
But I think you gave a good reason for it.
Whenever we started this episode like that was a great
discussion about two.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
And I forgot Lindsay's birthdays. When Carl's brother passed, Love
how everyone knew because he didn't make his bed something
was wrong. Loved how the guys all went to talk
to him to make sure he was okay. I know,
it was like very cute. Also, Megan, I would like
to say this, and this isn't calling you out, but
Meredith has been yelled about this before. Lindsay spelling Lindsay's name.

(01:56:43):
You're spelling Lindsay's name wrong. It's ends with an a y.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
That is my way to spell Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Now. I always knew, and one day Meredith posted a video.
I would for the record, Lindsay Hubbard. It wasn't me,
it was Meredith posted a video and spelled your name wrong,
and you d md us our little hundred one hundred
followers the m versus the comment and literally said you

(01:57:09):
spell my name.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
And I haven't have. I fixed every single occurrence of
it everywhere. By the way, I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
Never forget too. I was like literally at a gas
station filling at my car when Meredith told me, and
I was so embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
For I have never faltered since.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
So I'm not saying like Lindsay will ever see a Patreon,
but if she does, shape because we're Lindsay stands here,
shape up. And Meredith wasn't a Lindsay stand at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
I went and edited every single podcast description and every
single post that we have anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
It's also funny because I'm normally the one that fucks
up people's rags, but that is now never never hub
House crazy anyway. Okay, great up. As usual, we get
a shitty ass episode, but we have a great time,
do all the things I mentioned at the beginning of
the show, and yeah, great, great show, great job.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Thanks for joining. Bye.

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