Summer House Season 9: Reunion 1

Alicia and Meredith analyze the Jesse and Lexi situationship, the Paige and Craig breakup, and the heartbreak that is Ciara and West.
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, I'm Alicia and I'm Meredith. And this is also
Podcasts Summer House Edition. Uh Season nine Reunion, Episode one,
and we're again in person.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm in Meredith's apartment. This time we're in Chicago Bay.
I came back not for this. I'm going to a basketbooking.
I know.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's funny because we both booked individual trips to not
see each.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Other, to not see each other, but we're forced to
because of this podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
In a good way.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We should go to Florida next to visit Mara. Doesn't
matter if you're an old listener, you know Mara, but
if you're not.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
People were asking me about our podcast today and I
was I didn't even include her in the story.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
But then it's not the real story. Mara helped to
start this.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
She is I've been cut out five years later.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, before we get into the reunion. The beginning of
the reunion, we have an Instagram, a TikTok at, YouTube,
a Patreon. All the links are in our description. Also,
please be sure to rate, review, subscribe. I'll try and
speak better throughout this whole podcast. I think that's so,
I think so amazing. Let's hop to it shall we er.

(01:23):
I didn't take them any note.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I figure, we'll just do topic and then go off. Okay,
so we're.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Gonna start at the reunion they always do tonight on
the reunion, and then we're we're gonna get Jesse vers Lexi,
Jesse run in his mouth, the Craig and Page breakup,
West and Sierra relived their relationship, the Sierra and Jesse flirting,
and then they were like Jesse and Pierra kissed, and
both Meredith and I went, we watched this together.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, it really wasn't that well. I watched even a
preview earlier today. Oh. I was like, oh my god,
they must have kissed in the last time in Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I was like, when they went to Miami together, we
saw it was just last season.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I kissed, not pissed me off, stupid. I didn't like that.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
It was like, we've done way worse like that.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh say that that, especially because it feels like still
the context of Lexi's in it, like we've done way
worse in relation to a Lexi, And.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's like this doesn't Yeah you Sierra, don't describe your
key like that.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
It was nothing. It wasn't that bad.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Anyway, so we started, and the entering season a rowe
because the set is basically a giant bed and it
is ugly.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I get the I get.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I love the idea, I love the pastels, I love
the vibe they're going for. But the headboard with individual
couches was so fucking weird that in the comforter being
all over, we're like nobody can walk. I think one
year o C had sand everywhere and it was like
they had to be helped to their seats.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I didn't love.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I also didn't love when they were like look at
the background and it was just like blankets and like, yeah,
it didn't translate to summer, which I think is what
angered me.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It wasn't summer.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
They did technically have like kind of like the house
and the shingles, but it was all dark.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Because it was night and we're sleeping. It just didn't
hit It didn't hit point. But they just here.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
She loves it the bed bugs impact.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I will say, I love that they're being honored.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I agree, Sierra loves the bed. Carl shows up with
the nan out.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Of lover Boy in hand.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I didn't, well, it was I'm assuming it's not Yeah, yeah,
I don't want to guess anymore. I've made assumptions before
I gotten called out, but I'm just assuming this one.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, he's here.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Amanda and Kyle are here, and Amanda gets the first spot.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
She has the coveted Scott next Sandy Collen.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I really thought she was gonna earn it more over
the end of the season, but she.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Didn't speak at all this reunion. You talked to girl.
That's so true. Hubbs.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
House is here, She's a mom I love, I love.
And then Jesse and West are also here. Lindsay and
Kyle are sitting next to each other for the first time.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
We talked about this that like they they've pretty much
sparred most of their reunions.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
They usually get the two coveted spot, Like remember when
the union where Lindsay and Carl were engaged and they
were sitting across from down Amanda, But then last.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Week was first, and then it was that was the
season page was like like turned yeah, but so like
she's always somewhat across from Kyle.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Love.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The reunions start, everyone's made their bed, it's time to
line it. Okay, Gondy does his hellos. He acknowledges. Amanda
got the first position spot. He started as Kyle's ex girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Technically yeah, he's a girlfriend, and I was like, uh
uh uh us OG's.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
No started as the who Kyle just wanted to hook it.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I mean that first season was so okay out. If
people joined to have not watched, because I think some
people get recommended to start with season three.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because that's like Paige, Yeah, you gotta watch season one
and two.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh the I think you wouldn't love Kyle, Carl or
Lindsay because I'll have love for all of them. Even
though Carl gives me the biggest stick in the world.
I'll always have love for him because of what they built.
If you joined season three, like Lindsay, Hubbard doesn't hit
the same without.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
The workest Twins. I know, because the workest.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Win's made her look soft insane technically rue.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
And say with Carl like watching those workers Twins work
against Carl, Kyle deal with it all.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Who's awesome?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, speaking of soft, Carl and here are next to
each other soft lunch of their relationship, and Lindsay goes
extra emphasis on sotoft.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, she's they're so funny this is what I
love about summer houses.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
They just all will be like, you know what, let's
just go. Even their trauma, They're like, let's just go. Okay,
Lindsay's a mom. Jenna will be here at lunch.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I heard Carl help or he didn't hold her, but
he met her.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's I know, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Wes is here, the man behind the granny scarf. He
is reminded to speak today. He has a piece of
paper and then he pulls out it's his.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Talk on it. That was so funny. It's funny. It's
hard to hate him. I hate him.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm in love, said them literally two seconds and I
looked at Meredith.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I go, I love him. I'm in love with him.
I want to date. This is the problem.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
It's men like this who are not horrible and can
just you know what's so funny when bad men have
those types of qualities. I didn't really back in like
Wes is a decent one compared to.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
The Actually, my friend was like, literally, describe your type
to me, and I took a screenshot.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Of West and send it to her.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I was something on his Instagram that like a funny
white man basically, and I send it to her and
she was like, she doesn't watch Bravo, but she goes
but he was mean to Sierra, and I go, we
don't find boy.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
You're like, we've we've moved. Shut Shut the fuck up.
You're not You're a biggler. Doesn't mean you know everything. Listen, listen.
You don't know his personality, Like that's see, that's true.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
You just know the facts as they came, not how
funny he was doing.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
You know, you don't know how much he made me
laugh while he was being asshole. Let's his first reunion.
It was rough to watch your summer back. This is
a rough first reunion. Yeah, and then Emeral will be
here later, which fucking Bravo let him.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Didn't watch all the drama.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
But I'm trying to think, like did he have a
cast photo? No, yes, see, then he's well, I guess
friend as get.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I just wish they would have always presented him as.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
A friend of because I think the expectations would be different.
Whereas it felt like there was a crossover with Bailey,
but it felt like he was being brought in to
supplement Bailey Lee.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Also, like, let's acknowledge that Bailey existed.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Agreed, it's very weird, like so weird. And also Emerald
at least talks more than Gabby. Like if Emeralds a
friend of Gab, you.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Mentioned that, you were like, why is Gabby out here?
The whole, Amanda, I mean this whole, the legacy of
like being allowed to go.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Gabby didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You could have just had Emeralds sit on that couch
and enjoyed the drama.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
The way Kakky is also doing that whatever yellow racist.
I didn't say it.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I said it, well, you're trying to also, I guess
push out the next person.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
That it looks bad, it looks Bravo's doing.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah. When I say no, I mean Bravo. It looks bad.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
And this is the third man of color they are
pushing out.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's what's crazy. We had an Asian man.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
At a Porto Rican man, and now a Banglad man.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't know the Bangland I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I'm not going to assume, but yeah, crazy, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's just it's a bad look and it's it's not
helpful to the show.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I think you could build a really good season around
Emerald LEXI I know that's crazy. And I'm not saying
kick everyone out, and I am saying if we're going to,
if we're going to, they could be a good.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
We know Lexi is a problem, but let's be as
we need young guns as the future.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
She'll go on. I think she would if she wasn't
in a relationship. She would function up on that fans floor.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
She don't have parents, she'd be flirting with all the men,
or an Emerald would be.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Pulling dude Emerald. Emerald as the like wingman to LEXI, like, let.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Me see it, let me see it, And I'm not
saying it would be good, but I'm saying I don't
know if it would be bad.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
So that's the thing. I don't think it'll be horrible.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, Like, let me test it out this season.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Now, let me see if I like it. Instead of
us all just staying inside, let me see if I
like it. Okay. Then we come to Page.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
She is on tour, she was a New York Times bestseller,
and she is going through a break up, very public one.
So Craig Page is not mentioned by name, so we
can also call him what's his nuts? But it's up
to whatever, just Batman maybe for journalists integrity. We'll just
say Craig, yeah, that we don't like him. I've always

(10:23):
thought he was weird, but okay, we asked him like
Andy basically is like Page, it seems like Craig didn't
this coming, and Hege is like, that's crazy because we
broke up last February for a weekend together.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes, I have no.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Ideat And we looked to this aftering a commercial to
try and figure out what was the catalyst, and we
did find that. We know sun Charm was already done
airing and even the runions were done.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
We know that Craig and.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Page went on a ski trip to Aspen with Gretzky slash.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
God, what did I say that called Dustin Johnson.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Like were on his tat trip with them at the
end the very end of January. So like our best guess,
our educated guess, is.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
That a fight must have happened on that Assen trip.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I would think after Asston thinking about it, like I'm
sure Craig was like, when are we hanging out?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And Bege was like, we're not. And then if he
did something that annoyed.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Her maybe on that trip, and then like when they
discussed it by the time when they were home, She's like,
don't come here for a few weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
But they broke up and she said, like, then you
saw this summer it didn't go well.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
And Southern Charman didn't look.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Too hot either, But like she said that they had
been having kind of the same type of fights for
about a year, and.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I believe that, Like it's like for people who didn't
watch Southern Charm. They argued literally about how Paige didn't
want the life that craigs.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
On Southern Charm.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
She was clearly saying that these are not the things
that I'm interested in, and he was showcasing.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
The things he wanted to do, like getting bees or
like wanting a farm.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
There was on the Summerhouse.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Their conflicts were about her tour, but like they were
different conflicts, but clearly they were not aligned on either show.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, it was Yeah, we all saw it coming.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
When I saw Southern Charm, I was like, she does
we all that was a stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
We've always seen on Summerhouse.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Their lives not being aligned, Like she's a city girl,
she's a New Yorker, she's a he's Southern Charm. He
you know, is South Carolina. He's you know his grand pastels. Yeah, yes,
like their life, what can't wear their pants?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah? So no, when he made her.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Like go visit the bees and that farm and he's like,
I think we should raise bees and she's like, why
don't we?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
She like feet behind him, being like I don't want
this life. He was never listening to what she said.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, so, I mean, of course he didn't see it coming. Then,
of course he didn't. He was yelling from the rooftop,
so I'm breaking up with you. Well, watch Trampon's Live
and it was like we'd together and we're stronger than ever.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm just saying, I will someone give him.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I don't believe he's lying in that or like I
understand him wanting to lie.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
That's an appropriate life.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And I understand that they were like working not working
things out, but they were seeing like there.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Were still conversations seeing.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, but he literally went on that and he's like,
she's love of my life.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
We're gonna be together for that's crasty, dude. He should
have at least been like, yeah, we're fine. And here's
the thing. If he really did have a ring, that's
a mom to pull out the ring.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so Page says she didn't want to
break up Team Greg, though he.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Did he'd put a line on the stand pretty easily.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
And then what happened was Craig went on vacation and
he was acting single. He was an aspen, he was
talking to girls looking out them and Page a not
gonna look like a fool, I'm sure, but b she's like, Okay,
well now it's the time to put statement out.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I think there was some shatter and it's just like
she said, like, I don't want to have to like
defend this as if for sill a relationship when we're
not so like, this is the perfect time to be like,
he's doing nothing wrong and that's that was appropriate?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Did you put it out on the podcast?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And then Andy does ask or he asks about the
engagement ring that Craig says he bought, which was for
a year, which was crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
That that is what makes me believe him less.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
For those who don't know, we didn't know about an
engagement ring until literally the Southern Reunion I think was first.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think he was on Watch What Happens Live?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, no, no, he was Summerhouse trailer had a snippet
about a ring, I think.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, well, I think.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Craig came like either way, like in February other yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Southern Time Reunion.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
He was like Andy because they had broken up, and
he was like, Andy, I a ring. I've had it
for a year. Now what am I gonna do?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And everyone like, oh no, crag, I got a ring.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But then he went on watch Trappens Live and he
was like, I returned the ring. The damn on launching
happens led with.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
My new girlfriend. I returned it. And then Age is like,
I don't believe that he bother.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Ring, nor do I do I which we debated this
or we discussed it like last episode.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
There was no debate.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
There was no debate. I wait, I still stand that.
I think he probably did.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Find like the jeweler. Yeah, maybe, but for him and
his new girlfriend aren't returning that ring. Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
If my new boyfriend is returning in engagement ring, we're
not together.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You ever returned it before you started dating me, that's great?
What eazy turn it earlier.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Don't do it with me if you like hadn't other chance,
because it's like some special New York jeweler.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Also actually you.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Don't return rings, you sell them, so you can go
to anybody to sell it, especially if it's.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, go to a random jeweler in or like pawnshop.
That's jar. That's why we asked Carl what did he
do with the ring that way?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
So I wish he actually got to answer it because
I want it. I feel like it puts a neil
in the Craig bought a ring Coffin, but we, like
Lindsay made a joke about it, or they all made
a joke about oh Carlson, Carl sold it to ring.
But I wish Carl would have been like, no, yeah,
I I sold it to some random company for fifty percent,

(16:32):
Like it is a bitch, like there's so it just
there's no way.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Craig got a ring.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
The thing I wish we went in tumorrow was Paige
says she knows Greig's tells when he lies, and I
was like, tell me the sells.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I didn't hear that.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
She's like, I know Gregs tells when he lies, and
then she was like someone was like I think. Kyle
interrupted and was like, also, you can't return an engagement ring,
and I was like.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, go back, go back me. No know what tells
is he just opened a Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
He's always I think a big tael for Craig And
this is just years of me watching him once every
hour for a week, and I've never rewatched Southern Chairman.
I won't. He won't like take any like not criticism.
But if you're like, hey, are you sure you passed
the bar exam, he immediately gets angry at you for asking.

(17:22):
Instead of being like, yeah, I can prove it. Yeah,
he's like, why would you ask me? I'm upset now
and you're like, it's.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Just a question. Same thing with like Craig, you lie.
We have. We showed a whole thing that I don't lie.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
He doesn't asked like what's your proof or any like,
and he doesn't ever show proof.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
He just does. He's he's worse this guy anyway.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
And let's get into Wes and Sierra, shall we.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
So Wes obviously he talked a lot in the media
about his break up with Sierra.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
He Wes thought they could be cordial.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
He didn't realize the damage to the articles, so he
thought he was describing a breakup in general to the media.
But he says he watched the season back and he
sees why it hurts Sierra so bad the way.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
He's like, I didn't think I was talking about you.
I was just talking about our breakout. It was in general.
It couldn't been anyone. It could have been me and
Jesse breaking up. Who knows. But Wes does apologize.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
For hurting Sierra, and then he keeps talking and he won't.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I made the note. I even said out loud. I
was like, now I won't shut the fuck up.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And then Page was like, he won't stop talking, and
I was like.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
He was talking in circles, and I think he was
so focused on just talking.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, me and Page, dude, we're right here thinking the
same thing. But then we have to talk about Sierra
removing or like splotting West's hand away from the hug.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I still think that's crazy. Though, that was so dramatic.
I don't think it was that bad. Listen. I don't
always want to hug people.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Don't fucking touch me in general, but especially not my ex.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
This is a real story.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
In college, I really hated this guy from high school.
He was like such a menace and he came to
visit my college and I ran into him with other friends.
So I hugged all the other friends and I didn't
hug him. I just was like hello, and I kept
walking and he got so mad he like trapped me
in a room and tried to hug me, and I
literally started yelling like help until someone came, and I

(19:21):
was like, this guy's crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Normally, Luckily access Luckily he was like five two hundred pounds.
I could have killed him, but.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, I could have beat him up. I was never
physically in danger, but it was weird.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
I don't owe you, my boy, And why do you
think you can trap me in a room to get it?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like, yeah, why is Wes so fucking upset? Because he's
like she didn't want to hug.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Me because he knows he needs Cyrra to like him
for larger redemption or this guy, so it took Wes Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
So then then Sear's found at the table with him
that one night and yelled at him.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
His hair is ugly.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Also he's a loser ever else And we find out
and we see the footage that not only did Sarah
yell m and Weston speak, he got up and like
had a twenty minute break away from the table and
then came back and still said nothing.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I don't get why Bravo cuts that shit out.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
What was he doing?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Takes thirty seconds to show that, like he got up,
he left for twenty minutes and came back.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Like that tells me that makes it worse, makes it
way worse. That's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You can't gather yourself to be like I needed a minute,
here's what I.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Have to say to you whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Because Wes's biggest thing is he doesn't talk when he
is confronted. Prepared, then you leave for twenty minutes, you
prepare something, and then you can come back.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
They all said that that like, oh he talks a lot,
but it's just when he's caught off guard, and it's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
He he left, he excused himself, he got himself together.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
What was he doing? I would have been in.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
The mirror like writing points and been like now, I'm like, show.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Me more of that footage, like, yeah, where was he
in that house?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
What was he laying on his bed?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You just scrolling on to he do scroll for twenty
minutes the time to go back to dinner.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Hut.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
We make the sense.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's so weird that he came back and was like,
and that's it. Hey, And Sierra's whole point was if
you can talk to the media, you can talk face
to face.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, it wasn't so much she wanted a bitch mouth,
but she's like, if you're gonna tell everyone but me,
do it to me. That's my thing.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
If you always say this, like if you have if
somebody finds out something you say, you have enough falls
to be able to like own it.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
I won't say it publicly if I wasn't gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Because that's the thing is some someone's gonna find out,
even if you just tell your best guys. I think
she's gonna tell someone, and then someone I'll find out.
So you have to be careful with what you say
and like fucking own it.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Thinking something's gonna say private when you like primarily say
said it private. Okay, the chances of backeting up, but
going public with something you really got to own out.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Shit crazy, that's crazy. Whatever the fuck do I know?
At least Wess his hair looks better.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
So then we talked about how after the table debacle,
Sierra and Cage go back to their room and Sierra
says she kind of want to make out with him again,
and this is so meat coded, this is so meat coded.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Hurt my feelings. I'll just make out with you.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's hard because that attraction just doesn't like go away instantaneously.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I immediately thought of someone and I was like, would
make out with it?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Like I me being able to yell at someone.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I like it. I like it. I feel like I
have some power. And then like, then let's think out.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
It's what did you say? That's being a girl right there.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's especially when Sierra, Paige and Amanda are like shining
in on that discussion.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I'm like, oh, this is girl. I get it.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
But Sierra says it was hard because like last summer
they had really good memories and they were friends and
then this total switch up happened, and she just like,
it's hard to separate the feelings.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
And wanting to have fun with I didn't even She
also said, like being in that house, they have so
many memories.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I never thought about that at the start of the season.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I just thought, like being around him is hard. That
like she had a bedroom that she like slept in
with him, Like Lexie was frustrated with not seeing with
Jesse for one night. Imagine spending an entire summer with someone,
having such a good time.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Truly dating them all fall and now you have to
come back into the probably kind of like it do
You're just like, I don't want to. Don't know what
the magic of the summerhouse could do. That's the toxic.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I ship the fuck out of these two. It's so
bad here, don't do it. Don't listen. I just think,
y'all are.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
So many suited alternate universe where they're taking.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
They're so suited for each other, like like in a
past life they were in love and then there's souls
not each other again because I love that, and now
they can't be together. Wes Low said he watched the
episode and he saw a different perspective of things, and yes,
feelings came back to Sierra, but she doesn't want to

(24:08):
date him. So then we talked a little bit more
about what happened off camera in their relationship. Siarah explains
that she was going through some major family drama when
like her and West kind of came to an end.
So towards the end of their relationship, her mom got
married again and that kind of sent Siara into a spiral.
Her mom's been married a couple times, and Sierra just
didn't have the capacity to get to know someone else.

(24:30):
And Siah also doesn't speak to her dad, so.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That was really hard.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
And Wes and Sierra would talk about family dynamics, but
then during this time, she felt like Wes wasn't really
there for her. Wes says that Sierra turned her phone
off for two weeks for a retreat, which at first
I was like, she just turned it off, and.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Then it was like the retreat and I was like, yeah,
I know.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I was like, damn, like during Christmas when you're holidays. Yeah,
but then Siah says, the holidays are were really hard
for her, like she isn't close, she doesn't talk to
her dad. She wasn't really she didn't want to be
around her mom. She didn't want to feel like a
burden to West because she was going through a lot,
and she didn't want West to feel like he had

(25:11):
to invite her to.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Christmas and all these other things. And really, Sierah.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Said, this was sad.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
This broke my heart that she was just trying to
get through December and her and West just like really
missed each other.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, it's one of those things where he's like, well,
you turned your phone off so I couldn't reach you.
And it's like you.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Want people to show up for you, but also something
people showing up for you, it is hard. You just
want to put your head down and like get through
it on your own.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I also think it's like how you were raised a little,
like just being the eldest daughter. I will never to
show my family I'm not okay, ye like I would.
I would never do it, And so it's hard for
me to also ask for help. And I feel like
Siara's been out on her own for so long that
it's hard for her to ask for friends for help
because she doesn't like they have great relationships with her

(25:56):
family at this point.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
So like, why hard to then ask.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
A guy who is kind of one foot in, one
foot out, like who is not probably being consistent or
you're reading into some cracks or I don't know where
exactly they were actually in a relationship, but no matter what,
she felt like kind of inconsistency with him, Like, you're
definitely not gonna ask someone like that.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
It would also be awkward to ask anyone, right, Like
even if Sarah was talking a page, She's gonna be like,
can I come to your Christmas?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Christmas is so different than Yeah, it's a weird thing
to like navigate.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think being with another person's family makes it more
obvious or not with your own.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Agreed, But I think also being alone is hard. Yeah,
like what's the magic make it easier? Truly?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's I literally what she says that I go, I'm
going on to retreat. I was Greeka for two weights,
like goodbye. So that's what was happening during that time.
It makes a lot more sense of how they kind
of broke up.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, it seems like it like.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
He probably mentioned like he wasn't feeling it, and then
it was just like this half and half out stuff
and then the holidays come and it's just like all right,
we're done here clearly.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah. Yeah, there was something like really heartbreaking up about it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Things with Sierra's family, unfortunately, are still rocky. Sierra also
says she's very hard on her mom. She wants her
mom to accept like a great love, and she feel
likes she feels like her mom has accepted.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Some par love for so long. Her mom's been.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Married multiple times, so it's just hard on Sierra. It
also shows why Sierra is very guarded when it comes
to her dating life and you know, opening up to men.
She doesn't want to duplicate the things that she went
through as like a child, a daughter, and Wes is
able to acknowledge that he wasn't really there for Sierra,

(27:48):
and Wes just misses their friendship with Sierra. They he
says he hasn't had a relationship to this depth ever,
which which pisces.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Me off a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know, that makes me so so fucking mad because
also like they were such good friends, like they just.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
You threw so much away, I know, for what I
don't get. I don't get that, like we don't work.
For what what did he throw.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
It away for? Like I'm still so confused. Is it
was it worth it?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I almost want to ask, like, looking, is this worth it?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Like, but I also don't want who to stay in
a relationship with her just because they do have such
a good friendship and he.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Doesn't want to lose it and for fear.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Of the fan base disliking him, because that's totally he's
on the other side.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Of I agree, but I do want I don't think
he would ever answer honestly, because like I refuse to
always be like no regrets, like where I am is
where I'm supposed to be. But I want almost an
honest answer to like is it worth it is your
life where you are now?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I feel like you threw it away?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, like you maybe like left it too soon?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Do you? If you could, would you get it bad? Yeah? Yeah,
without like any of the bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
If you if she right now was willing to like
move completely on for it, that would never happen because
we know, yeah, some how people work.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
But if you could, would you do that?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
And I'm like, did you just end it because like
you were scared or like scared of commitment, which, like
I get, I fully get that, like that shiit terr
like once it gets real, it's terrifying for some people.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
So I, well, that's not healthy.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I understand that thought process and like needed to get out.
So I'm just curious what was happening in his mind.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, I wish we could get more of like an
honest answer, because wanting to like fuck half of New
York just like doesn't sit.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Also, that's what like they were saying about him, like
the girls are saying about him, were like, it's not
like he went in like instead to train through the Bravo.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
So West apologizes for the miscommunication. He says he never
wanted to her feelings or disrespect her, but he does
you would like to be friends with her, Sarah says,
time will tell, And then they all joke.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
They're like, don't do any article. True. True.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So then we do a break, which Meredith and I
were very confused. The way they cut it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Why did they do that?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Wa had a commercial break and then thirty seconds after.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
The commercial break, Yeah, they're like, all right and time
for a break.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
It was And we watch a lot of reunions. It
has never been uncomfortable where I feel like, no, okay,
So the girls kind of like are left back to
go to Pete, but mostly she's like the girl's there.
Lexi's like, Sierra, that was really strong of you to
like share that. Kyle comes back, He huggs Siara, Siah's
favorite friend.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I mean he was.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Tearing up during her segments and he teared up last
reunion too during her section.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, Kyle loves he has very soft off. He is
a really good friend.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, he loves Siara. Yeah, I always told Sredith. I
was like, of course here is the favorite. He hates Paige,
He's always fighting.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I think he is also Paigees like not that Seria
is an independent and strong but like Page is definitely
more forward with her like string well or like outward
like with it that I think.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think I think Sierra would like if Kyle ever
did anything to Amanda, Sara would be like, leave your husband,
and Page would be like, let's or him for five.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yes, that like and.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Kyle Kyle Pages like an opponent, a worthy opponent, like Lindsay,
but like the device are different.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Also, at least a vander Pump won't stop calling Andy Cohen.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
They're all about though, they're all I wish they were like,
we're gonna get some really. Just to note, I have
a new.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Eck is when a man uses chapstick. Listen, you can
use japstick.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
But don't do it, don't put it on, don't apply
it in front of me.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I don't know why that's weird. I think it's really
the man holds the chapstick. They pulled it like a fist,
and I just can't anyway. Emerald's also here fucking finally,
my guy, I mentioned the chapstick because my dude, Carl
did it. He's been giving me a flood fright and
center this season. Sorry, I got mentioned Carl. I want
to love him, and I can't.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
You just love the journey, you can't love him presently.
I'll always have a soft spot.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
You can look back and be like, I'll always have
a soft spot, but it's not very big.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay, So we welcome to new house gates. We got housemates,
we got Emerald, we got LEXI.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Immediately we asked, is did Emerald feel pigeonholed by being
called the oRGB.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I'm shocked they asked this because they did.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
They did.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
They did this to him.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Literally, and Emerald says he did feel that way, but
I like the way he's able to also smell reflex.
He's like, I did come in and meet these people
and immediately like talk about a sex party, but it
just so happened that, like that's what I was doing
the weekend before.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
That's where That's why I don't blame the housemates for
kind of pigeonholing him in conversations, because he did lead
into that that then it like it's viral.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I think the hard part is he missed the first weekend,
so then he meets.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
The guests and they're probably like, where were you last weekend?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
He's like, I've got this sex party and everyone's like
sex party, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
No one like thought anything else with nobody.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Else bringings home. It just it does open it up
for questions about that.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
But I there's no way that castmates didn't have normal
conversations with him, and so that's where it's mainly on
Bravo for editing it only about the sex sufe.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
It seems like Emerald and Carl hung out a lot.
They had to have talked about shit. Well, they drove
up together. They were always the two that would go
out together.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Speaking of driving up, Mal also constantly drove up his motorcycle,
which doesn't give him those car ride conversations. So I
think that's just something for people in reality TV to
think about on like where you're meeting this standard cycle of.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Conversations at I agree, But he did drive up with
Carl Wentz and him and Carl high out.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I feel like all like they were always in the
backyard together.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
He just never saw and I think it could have
given like a different perspective of Carl as well.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Good point. I think could have really helped Carl.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I honestly, as much as Carl gives me such an egg,
I want to see him in Emerald out on the town.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I want to see Emerald being like, okay, walk up
to that girl, like.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Because I think he would give Emeral would give Carl
really specific advice to him, like he would to be
like this is what I do.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
He'd be like, hey, this is what I think will
help you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Emeral does sir up though he's an orready novice, not
an only beasts okay, but.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I they acted like West gave him that nickname to
like pigeonhole him into at it. It's like West calls
everybody a something beasts like shortzy beast whatever, beast.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Like it just was a bit like he did stick.
It is funny. So Emerald does say he brought back
like four girls over the whole.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Weekends, five girls because there was there's double But yeah,
that's bad.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
No at all, especially like used to have it, especially
knowing he was cut out of that one weekend.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Like I wonder how if he was cut out of others,
Like we just maybe don't have photographic groove.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Kyle used to bring back girls in front of him.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Man, I'm just like Kyle used to like kiss someone
on Friday and bringing me in a home on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, Lindsay was bringing home dudes. That one season she
had Amen whatever his name was. She remember that season
she got like eighteen guys numbers in like one weekend.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
They had a whole contest with like Hannah Well that
was page get. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Carl used to like be in and out housemates and
on high.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I kind of forget. The Walk of Shames used to get.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
People always in away games because they were conscious that
they had cameras. But I think they also we're always
told you're not about to cover up the cameras, I bet,
whereas anyone's like, I don't care if I break the rules,
and yeah, cover this up.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Also, I feel like we're doing the thing they do
on some of the island now, where you don't show
her here as much because you don't want to deter
people from Why because when it used to happen, we
would hear like Lindsay fucking moaned from the bathroom, and
we'd be like, we didn't hear anything of Emerald, he
just covered it.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
We heard like a headboard. This isn't meant to be
in a shaming sense.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Emerald was definitely having like One Night's Stands where those
women weren't you know, having their writing, like signing their
rights away to have themselves on camera, whereas like Lindsay
and Carl, they were kind of like long standing people
that they were interacting with, so it was a little
bit easier to.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Be like, hey, will you sign this?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, they weren't this girl number one. Yeah, we got
names because they've heard it all night. And this is
when we would get cameras out at parties, and now
we didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Get that, and so it was a weird season.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Anyway, Andy does ask like what did your family think
like seeing this? And Emerald ends up like his his
parents are in Bangladesh, so his parents don't get but
Emerald's brothers around here and like his brother saw it,
and his brother knows who he is, and it's okay
with that. But Emerald's sister in laws like isla family.

(36:57):
We're very upset that they're very religious, and they were
upset that Emerald was going to go to his nephew's
birthday party, which is so sad, which like this seemed
to strike with the the like the cast that like
we did ask a lot about emerald sex life and
he was very forthcoming, but that cost him a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Like he contributed it, We contributed to this narrative and
like him not being potentially allowed at his nephews.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, and then I like we said this in a
previous episode and Lexie acknowledges that they could have asked
him more questions about who he is because just who
he's hooking up.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
With or his sex life isn't like, oh yeah, it's
not him.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Because I do, like I feel like the house really
felt for Emerald in that moment of like, yeah, we
could have asked, like what you do for your job,
but instead we were so fascinating on your sex life,
and like it cost you something. But Emerald never like
shy away from him. He was always willing to play
into the joke.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I think that was it too. It's like, okay, all
these people kept joking.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
About his sex life, and he never got mad about it.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
He was always very like everything was a joke.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Like I think they genuinely were asking about the sex
stuff because they lead different lives.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's a they're very vanilla compared to him.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, but I think they're.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
All very open and they don't care. So I don't
think and I don't think their families cared.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
When they had sex on camera.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
So like to see that somebody had a consequence for
it and that they played a party shock him.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I hope he comes back. I do too. I like him,
I love and I like that Bravo or Angy.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I don't know who picked these questions, but they seem
to give Emerald like a better light.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah, his edit, like it was acknowledging a lot of
the backlash that people have been saying, like that, people
are frustrated that he got this edit.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, so I'm hoping like Bravo can see that we
actually viewers didn't dislike him, like we're we dislike a
lot of people's viewers, but like he would be an
interesting storyline because we never had someone from Bangladesh with
family like this religious aspect, who's this open in and
like he is leaving his religious cat Behu.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And he's doing so much work in his community, like.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
The I don't want to call it a town, the
like village that he was born in, Like that's a
huge piece of it. And like you said, we've never
touched on his work, Like there's so much room to
explore him as a character, and like clearly the audience
loves him, and I hope he feels that love that
like we while that was the storyline we were given,
Like people are paying attention to what he's doing outside of.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
It exactly, And I'm hoping for because they are going
to have a unreleased footage I show the nephew's birthday
party that they had cameras at or not.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
The birthday party, but he played with his nephew that
one time.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
It was his kids. I gink, Yeah, sure they only
plush kids that they had cameras for. They are like
his city scenes.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yeah, literally what them all doing on a weekday?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Maybe maybe, but if you have a real job that
we can go.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Oh, because all these other people are just sitting in
their apartments drinking wine at noon, drinking breast milk from
the tit Why aren't we following Emerald?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I liked when we went to jobs. I know it's hard,
I know we're not allowed to a lot.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Of times, but I loved I talked about it all
the time on the streets when they're like send me
those numbers.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Imagine Emerald like just closed down another house. That be
so funny. Well, it would be really interesting if like
one of the other cast members like needed to get
a new place and he like did it with them.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Oh, where's Carl living?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Is he? Good point?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Because when a man and Kyle get their house for
their family.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
If they saw these previews. Okay, it's sort of like.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
My least favorite subject, Jesse and Lexi. Jesse fell so fast,
he wasn't in love with Lexi.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Can you believe what? My god? So someone does ask
my exact question, I guess, yeah, I know what was?
It was just did Jesse actually like Lexi and for Lexi?
Or did he just want to be a boyfriend to
someone who was super hot? Yeah? Did it was just
two hot people? Or did you like?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Of course he's gonna answer though and be like, no,
what he actually would like is what.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
He started with. He didn't mention that she was ditzy.
That was that is still the craziest thing that happened.
You consider yourself dizzy? What? How offensive? Anyway, let's talk
about Tailgate. Let's just get right into it. The biggest
question why did Jesse.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Even go into this room where he knew there was
an orgy hit one that orgy the threesome happened. He
didn't know what was currently happening inside my Yeah, listen, Meredith,
if you take someone into your room, I'm not gonna go.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I wonder what's happening. Let me barge in. That's the thing, Ago,
I know what's happening. Let me barge it.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I would still be pissed if we're not having sex
and we're naked and we're like post.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I wanted to make you more pissed if I was
like I just didn't know what to expect a post
me being like, I just wanted to see if I
can catch you fucking like at least one of those.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I hate it all. It's like, you know, I'm in
it with someone. What do you think is happening?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Like? It's unlike it all came home first and he
has two girls in his room and nobody knows what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Emerald, are you hungry? Remember had come out and said,
it's hot, I'm gonna grab this stand because I got
two girls I'm hooking up with Manda tried to be like,
we knew he was done, and I'm like, oh, you're
still It wouldn't piss you off more if you were done, it.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Would pist you off the same if I still walking, Yeah,
it would be the same. Because also, you don't know
if I'm two is coming. Yeah, it's all people. You
don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
There's three, there might be no break.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
We don't know. I don't know. I don't know, and
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
I'm not I'm not seculating, I'm not judging. I just
know I wouldn't be going in that room, and I
would be pissed if somebody was.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Coming into that.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I think I would be more pissed if someone was
like I had no idea of post, Like I just
wanted to see a fuck, and I'd be like, at
least shirt, at least it's an idea of what's fucking Jesse.
Jesse can't be fucking honest that he wanted to see
what he was. Yeah, So he says he was just
drunk and wanted to look. And that's when Andy's like,

(43:23):
you know what you're gonna look?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
What to look?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
And Jesse says they were done and it was just
like a thirty six second or thirty six minute shows
and then one minute forgetting his to suck. He was
wearing clothes, which Emerald also was like, yeah, he was
fully clothed. The rest of us were naked, but that's
not weird. I'd be like, dude, get out.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Of the room if I was like, and like he
laid in bed, It's like there's already three people in
his bed, not all naked, and it has to be
only like a queen size, So like, as someone who
likes space, there's three people wing across the queen.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's a pretty full bed. He didn't want space, you
wanted to get up in there. He's like, you know what,
let me get up in here.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
But I'll be slightly respectful because I'll be on the
other end of it. And then he did say and
I'm hard, but that's just a Joe, which I believe that.
Like I we talked about this during the commercial, Like
I don't think he got like a low job, but
I don't think he had sex like Brabo would have
would have clocked him for that, or like he at

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least would have been like there.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Was some sketchy audience.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I think the most damning thing is that Emerald has
literally no reason to protect this man.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Probably has been.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Nothing but forthcoming and honest so far. He has no
reason to like nothing happened. I don't think he was
live for just I think he literally is like Jesse.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
It's as especially once it became like a problem in
like a constant discussion during the season, Like I understand
maybe he's not like outright, you know, being like coming
out of that room being like Jesse got.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
His dick sucked.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, but he was the one that suddenly Jesse got
his so sucked and yeah, he's like he started it
and told it to Bailey, and like I think, yeah,
I think Emeral would have been like completely honest.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But it is really weird. Like I think, I think
Emerald truly is. Like it's as weird as you sound,
as it sounds like he came in. He doesn't need
to be anything.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
People who are totally naked and just hooked up.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
The sex smell is probably still here. He just sat down.
It was weird. Yeah, listen, and.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Everyone's making jokes haha, But Lexi doesn't.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Have and I or her I don't like as if
you were, I'm like ha ha ha, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is I was literally like yeah, well, like I
get people being like, oh my god, that's so funny,
Like if they're at a table with just four people
and it's like Jesse, Paige, Kylamanda, like okay, yeah, make
some jokes.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
About it, but yeah, being a Lexi and it's not
funny with her sitting there, it never will be funny.
Nobody thinks of her at all. I know she's been
a bitch in her like press store, but like she
still has feelings and like the way that man is
continually treating her so poorly is crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
So Lexi just says she thought it was sketchy that
Jesse he lied about it and didn't tell her it
was a joke. He didn't think he had to tell her. Well,
if it's a joke and it's not that serious, merit.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Getting my toastucked? It was such a funny joke or
are you laughing haha? Just me getting my I hate
I famously hate feet, so this whole.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Thing breaks me out.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I just he just constantly minimizes it to this day,
he's so like it's a joke instead of just being like, hey,
I fucked up.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Actually, things aren't my joke unless someone thinks it's funny.
I think that's a really great comeback every time somebody
says that, yeah, it's not a joke. If I don't
think it's funny, so I guess it's a statement. Then
I would literally go fuck West and you're like it
was just a joke.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Literally, I would want to burn that van like the ground, yeah,
and just be like it was a joke.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Literally looking stopped off and you're like, this is just
a joke. Strangle that man. It was just a joke.
Like having me robbed, it was just a joke. Fired
kill him, it was just joke, doesn't have a job,
your music sucks. It was just a joke.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Imagine literally she kills him and she's like, it was
just a joke. The stabbing, it was just a joke.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Hilarious. I was the darkness within me would be like
that is giving. It's just a joke.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Oh terrible, I'm canceled. Anyway, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Lex You did think Jesse would have maybe gotten a
blow job, And that's when everyone was like, look, I
have no reason to protect him.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I look out him and I was like, give this,
I appreciate her being like, this is what I thought
would have happened. Well, yeah, She's like.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
I am not gonna just like let any of this rest.
You're a terrible human. I will think the worst of you.
Oh that's all you've let me do.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Like it's not if it's a joke, I'm gonna make
jokes too.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I thought you got blown about that. I'm gonna tell
everybody you did funny Joe. Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Then we got to talk about Jesse flirting with Sierra.
Jesse says, watching it back, he sees how he crossed
the line.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
It was kind of like their typical because they naturally
kind of have a flirting friend but it was worse.
Jesse not.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
First of all, sure have your flirty friendship, but you
opping it the minute your girl is out of sight.
I still don't think he gets that it's a joke, Meredith.
And this is when Sia's like, we've done way worse.
And Meredith and I were like, ah, and she goes
we kiss.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I'm like, they kiss. She's like, not a summer and
we saw.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
It, but again we get the flashrock. I'm like, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
That's Jesse's asked like if Wes had never called dim
would you have gone with Sierra? And everyone laughs it's
a joke, and West says, I never called DIBs for
the record, okay, but you basically.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Did, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
And that's when Siara says, look, if she wanted to
fuck Jesse, she would have done it before the summer
to get back in West, and I went, damn.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
She should have. She should have. I think that would
have been amazing. You should have.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That would have been That would have been awesome, and
West is thirties, like, yeah, that would have would be
Wes is like, I get it.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
They would have hurt probably, but she's too nice, like,
you know, you would have never hurt me, like you
know he's dead there and would have hurt. It would
have hurt a little. Yeah, I get it, Yeah, yeah,
but it would have hurt.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
So Laxie says, it just stuck to watch like Paige
and Amanda watch Jesse and Sierra or and be like,
oh my god, they should date, they should date, which
Page was like, I never said that, but Amanda was
like I did, and she says like she knew what
was unrealistic, like Jesse and Sierra are never going to date,
but she knows it looks like it's unfairy due.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
To LAXI like that hurts, especially like Amanda being like
the friend quote unquote, that's the PROPLEXI and like not
only were they watching it from afar like a man
and Craig were like laughing about it, being like, wow,
this would be amazing, but then they brought Jesse over
and like kind of like egged it on. Yeah, and
then they don't say anything to her about that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, Well then they just felt let's see, they're like
break up with your man, Yeah, you're sad, break up
with you and they're not sitting here going like he
was so flirty.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
We also like egging comments about it.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
They just act like they just witnessed it and it
was just like something that they like lanced over and saw.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I see why I heard Lexie I would be yeah,
because it feels like everybody's don't want a joke behind
your back. Yeah, and you can't trust the people that
you're living with, a bunch of people you can't trust.
But I think the main.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Point is, like Jesse, you doing it behind Lexi's back,
Like it's a different because Lexi even said they'd never
flirted like that.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
In front of me, and then the girls saying we
did tell you not to date this man.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
But I think that's kind of taken on a context
because it was Lexi being upset and they're like, look,
if you're already having issues, don't get him.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
It wasn't like he's doing this behind your back. He sucks.
We were egging it on. He was down with it,
break up with him.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
They were only saying don't.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Be with him because she was upset. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, so then we have answer benefit When Jess touching me,
he said, Sarah, don't touch me. I just got yelled
at and Sarah's like, no, that was super awkward as
it looks, it's as awkward And it was a joke
though for Jesse it was a joke.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Grow up, it was a joke.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I liked how this kind of like discussion amongst the
three parties went because Siarah was like, I was doing
it in the same room as Lexi and I literally
was just touching her arm. There was nothing nefarious about it,
And I liked how Lexi used that to be like
this is where he was pitting us against each other.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Well, Also Sierra's like don't sell it as a joke
if it's like a serious conversation. Yeah, we should have
had a serious conversation because it's unfair to Lexi. If
she's feeling some sort of way about it, you should
have enough for you to go back to me Ian Lexi.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, because then you're like blaming Sierra.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
You're like, don't touch me, and it's like, we never
had a conversation about like this, and like you said,
it wasn't grat She just raised his arm and was
like ha ha.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
And then Lexi was like, and I never said don't
touch Sierra.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, which I leave that the whole time. But he
made Lexi look crazy, and he made Sierra look like
she was the one who was like the problem y yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah. But then Siara does say, like, but Lexi.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Has been doing some press, which was true, and we
bring up this like Sierra and Jesse didn't go to
Lexi's birthday party and they decided to hang out instead.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I think the funniest thing about that conversation is they
had to be like, I'm sorry when your birthday, like
we don't even know, and she's like, I put it
in the group.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
December twenty seconds my sister's birthday. When she said it,
I was like, I'll never forget that.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Being I didn't know because in the press four I've
only seen clips of her making these comments.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
It's kind of felt like to me like her birthday
was here in Jeane, like some time it had passed.
It was kind of recent, but like.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
A month after filming when you have these big blow ups,
A fucking course they're not coming to your birthday.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Well, I don't think she had like a she didn't
have and on bad terms with Sierra.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
I mean she was basically saying I don't trust you, yeah,
so like why would she We never we never had
a moment like Lexi and Sierra. I've never had a
moment where they bonded over anything, really had any discussions.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I'm not I'm not saying it's bad. I mean, I'm
just saying Lexie made it.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Sound like it like recently happened where the cast has
been doing stuff together like whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
No. I think the most.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Hurtful part is, instead of like just not coming you
go out to brunch together and post about.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
It, is that they didn't say they weren't coming.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, And then it's like like imagine like someone invites
us to their birthday and we're like, instead, we're gonna ignore.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
It and then we'll go out to eat and then
we'll post it.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
With normalized like find you stuff behind people's back.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
We don't need to post it like it's being malicious.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah, I think Jesse was being like I think Sierra
had no clue what was really going on, Like she's
just doing her own shit, and I think Jesse's taking
a dig at Lexi.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
But didn't they date after the show if her birthday?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Okay, that's the rumor on the street, but based on
how the season ended, I was confused on how they
ever got back together.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I don't think they did. Okay.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I think that's because I actually even saw an interview
with Lexi. I don't know when this was, but she
said that she's been she's been dating since the summer,
just like casually dating, like or just putting ourselves back
out there.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So I think we all just had the timeline wrong.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
And I don't know when that Jesse interview was where
he said he had a girlfriend, And I don't know
if it was like a fan question because obviously like
pictures were being snapped, so we all knew.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
That there was something happening.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Do you think he was just saying that to get
her eyes out of Lexi the like boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
I think I'm wondering if somebody asked him like, oh
we saw in Summer House and he's like, oh, yeah,
I've been seeing somebody, like just talking about it generically
because people already knew. And I think he was excited
to have a storyline, so like he was gonna tease that.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
I mean, yeah, I think we can all agree Jesse's
the fucking worse.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
But yeah, I think it's like it's not topic. None
of this is really that big. It's it's not.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I think it's just escalated and we have to like
weirdly talk about it because like what fun.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Would they have to?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Like, let's he chose to make this a public discussion
like the birthday.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, like that wasn't necessary. That's true, the same way
it wasn't necessary for like Jesse to post something. It's
all fucking weird. It's just stupid. I do like though
that like the other girls can see like what Jesse
was doing.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
I and I said this during the season, they don't
have the whole picture, but once they do I think
they will think differently. And they said, we don't get
you know, like the same insight, but like we understand
what was happening now.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah, I think I just feel like, not bad for Lexi,
but I feel bad for this is hot. This is
bad for her in relation to the season.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
I do think she deserves the dislike that she's getting
wrong the press she's doing.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I've been listening to the press. I just constantly see clips.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
It just it. I just don't she's clearly media trained,
but I don't think she's trained on how to talk
like this is a very neat situation.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
And I think she inadvertently puts a decent amount of
blame on Sierra and like that's not okay. And I
think she brings up stuff that just doesn't need to be.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Brought up sometimes though you just don't like so when
you guys but didn't see it on it. But she
wants to be the victim the entire time. I don't
get victim.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
I get she just wants to be like friends with
these girls.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
The press were like it just seems like she's like,
oh for me, like because this is what was happening
to me constantly. It's yeah, so like I, she is
the victim of Jesse in this whole summer, but she's
the victim of herself oppressed.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
As one who wasn't see the breast. I kind of
like Lexi. I'm kind of done with her.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I see yeah, if I didn't see some of the press,
I think she is more palati.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I always have Listen, I have sometimes good good feelings
about people, and I have one about like I think
this will blow over.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, I like her. I don't have an issue with her.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
But that's the end of the reunion. And the next time,
we're gonna talk about Turner and Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I can't wait for that. We're gonna talk about Carl
and Lindsay's friendship.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
We're gonna talk about Kyle and Amanda and their relationship,
and then we're gonna talk about Paige and what's his nuts?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Because Page doesn't say his.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Name a la Arianna.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Did Arianna not say his name Tier? Season eleven of
the roles, She wouldn't say his name. She would always
call him my ex and like on.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Every watch what happens, like somebody would say right, his name,
my name, same my name to her, but she would
always just be like all with staying that in his room.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah, I could talk about there and page all night.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Because are you I just come over their break want okay,
because we have like a few extraments. This was a
short reunion. I just want to, like, okay, I need
you to I need to know your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
If the cast of Summer House went against the cast,
here are the here are the rules.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
And I didn't TikTok on this. I added vander pump roles.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
It didn't do very well, but we're gonna take vander
Pump out because Summer House and Southern Term are currently.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Beefing like they are big time, well not as much
I think as people think they are. Like they don't like,
I don't think they're friends.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
No, Kyle said, like he talks to everybody, but like
there's not real beef between them all.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Well, let's say they're beef. They got the side they've
all chosen. Its Summerhouse for soun.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
We're dueling.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
No weapons, okay, no weapons, but you do get one combat.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Combat, you get one substance of your choice. Okay.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Everything is important to note, which is why when I
originally presented that I thought Vancomfortable could totally wipe the
grow out because you want.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
If you want no alcohol, I think you gotta go
cocaine or like aaterall you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I think that one up Southern Charm a little bit
because they do some stuff. I'm not going there's more,
and you can use anyone who's ever been a full
time cast member on any season.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
But is there a number of people like slots going
into this duel?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
So it's a fair number of anybody who's ever been
on Southern Charm against anybody who's ever been.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
On Numbers only plus m.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeahs end up sucking someone into.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Okay, this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I think Southern I think Southern Charm might because I
think they, because of past.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Cast members, have more guys who could take it. Or
like your guys are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
JT who's small, I understand that, but he works out, okay,
Austin who's Austin, who's tall, chef who.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Doesn't know how to throw up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
That's the other thing you have to think about, is like, Okay,
we're getting them though at themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
But fighters, I know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Know, I know, But I think Tom's Rabinell is fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Okay, when he is not helping anyone he's fallen when
he is not showing up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Do you remember that guy who was like that dad
whose kids lived in California.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, I think he could do some. He could do some.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
That's the thing is like, it's their personality. Springle's kind
of like a chill dude.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So yeah, he's gonna help fight. But I just think
these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
I think these guys, and I think the girls would
pull a decent amount of weight on sudden charms. I
think Catherine the police away whereas guys are. The girls
on Summer House would.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Be like, no, you're gonna tell me a have house
and Danielle are not about yes, but like the Workest Twins,
Actually right, you got the workst Twins. You got Danielle.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
You got that crazy bitch Christina. She's skinny, but she's
gonna take on Naomi and be perfectly fine. And then
you got Kyle Carl Carl's Carol Nonsin.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Is he sober business?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Does he say so fine, We'll take a substance out
totally sober. Everyone gives me the same prissy vibes as
some of the Southern term people. So you could take
on Shep and be fine if you want to want
it right. Kyle, Kyle's crazy, He's good. Who's the other
guy from the Everett n He's Him and Lindsay are

(01:01:53):
both military trained.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Lindsay was R O. T. S. So right, Car without trying,
you got Alex, You're gonna add Alan Chris Emerald, Okay,
you're right. In Summerhouse, I do Lovey. He was in
Summer House.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
He was a full time past member house or he
was a Summerhouse guy that you love Craig and patting together,
I think, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I believe. I believe in the Summerhouse. I agree. I'm
just thinking of like Paige and Sierra, like, so he's just.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Gonna see Craig and be like, and I'm gonna kill him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I'm gonna kill him. That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
They would take on the men, those three alone, actually, Sierra.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Yeah, like Page's honor, I believe you're on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Page alone, would just go after the men, and then
you also got West and Jesse coming through.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
I think Southern Charms best best bet is Catherine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Catherine, and I think, what's that girl who's friends with
like Naomi and Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I could do something, But who's the blonde girl that
was there for she's not doing ship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
No, No, Elsey can hang. She would go face as
she was on Survivor.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
So like, yeah, I think Southern Charges had they have more.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I think they have more average, like a better like
average girls could take yeah, whereas like Summerhouse is highs
and lows, like you got some people who I really
don't believe in, but I don't know the full cast
of like everyone who's ever been on Southern Charm, because I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Feel a lot more come through, So I think they
have more. Okay, like Taylor, you got Molly, you got Sally.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Vanita, so you have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Just more Caleb. That's the thing. I think if you
have to cap it at a set amount, this would
be different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I think everyone, but I think the girls on I
just think that there's so many dudes that have come through.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Once I forgot about Everett.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Yeah, I believe that Lindsay Harkle, I think that I
think it would be a very good fight, like hey
to see it paper, But yeah, I think the true
answer if you had in Vander Cumberboles is Vander Pumperbles
Jack Taylor could take out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Only because they don't have the size of casts.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
No but they're crazier stand of all and jocks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Yeah, James could chans no, but if you give Katie
a little bit, Kila, she's lethal, saucy Saussy could kill you, Christen, Kristen.
Even Tina is gonna smack you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
She's known to you know what, when Colla needs to
get some range O, she's doing a little sound.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
It's all building up. She would be like, cut my
nails off and ready. Yeah, she has to be like
and wait because she's been known to hit a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
She's good allegedly allegedly. Yeah, Arianna, she's not going down
without a fight. Yeah, I mean I forgot bracks a
real Yeah, you don't get Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Which is a big loss. I think, Dall that would
be tough. Laurale, she's not a full time cast member.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
It's only whoever showed up at like reading it why
she thought she was Brittany. Brittany is nutty, you know what,
She's author some ship.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
She could go off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Her substance is Mamma's beer cheese, and she's unstoppable.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I think it's an interesting question because they are the
casts are quote feuding. I mean, Kyle and Lindsay were
on watching Live and they were like Craik's a big
funning loser and I was like, I loved watching clips
of them on that and they're like a only.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
They stop shipping them. I'm don't shipping them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Yeah, people are like in a different world a man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
And I'm like, there's they're literal twins. Their birthdays like
the same week.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
It's like they were separated at birth and someone changed
the birthday so they would never.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Her birth anything. But they are they are siblings. Her family.
We don't family. We don't kiss. We don't kiss family
on the lips. It's crazy. Okay, well that was my question. Great,
I love it, you did it. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
We have another reunion and then we have secrets revealed,
which will be on Patreon only.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
I believe, yes. But for the most part, we did
this fine. We love it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Do all the things I mentioned at the beginning of
the episode, and we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I guess to reunion too. Who knows how exciting that'll be.
But yeah, love you, Thanks for joining. Bye.