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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Before the red carpet lights, even Flipper one true stands tall,
sometimes more than others. Possibility is discovered in the unlikeliness
places Oh my God, and our guests having them alone. Hu.
She is our guest today, and let me tell you.
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She began collecting hundreds of Barbie dolls, each one a
reflection of dreams she hadn't yet believed she could live,
and those dolls became mirrors of what was possible long
before the world caught up to her magic. Welcome to
amazing women and men of power legends Nikon's Yesterday, Today
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and tomorrow. I'm your host raven a talk show. Maybe
then today we are not only rolling out the red carpet.
Let me tell you, we're giving our guests her flowers. Yes, yes,
because she deserves it. She's a powerhouse performer, best selling author,
award winning actress, grammy considered spoken word artist whose life
shouts proof of what's possible. From her breakout roles in
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HBO's Bury, Insecure and NCIS New Orleans to national campaigns
for Macy's and Parena, this Louisiana born queen has done
it all with purpose, with grace, and unstoppable drive. Uh huh.
She's been crowned Miss Louisiana Universal, honored with the Presidential
Volunteer Service Award Gold Medal, and named Trailblazer of the
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Year for her work in acting and empowerment. And now huh,
she's turning the world's ears with her Grammy Considered album
Proof of What's Possible and her short film I'm in Love,
screening at film festivals around the gold. She is a living,
breathing example that no matter your past, your pain, or
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your path, you can rise, you can shine, and you
can be what's possible. So you know what I like
to say, y'all, if you stand and sit down, If
you sit, you better stand up because the lady is here.
Uh huh having us here, y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Wow, thank you so much. Like this, this has been
a decade in the making of us coming together and
being able to collaborate in this way and share our
stories in this way. And I'm so grateful to be
here with you today, Like you had the biggest smile
on my face just listening to you, because you shine
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in what you do and so I'm grateful.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Thank you. Tavla. Oh my god, you know we've been
knowing each other for a decade. We just realized it's
been a decade, right, and we have not even seen
each other, I mean other than this way, you know,
And this might even be the first time we see
each other on video. I'm not sure because I think
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so let me look at you. There you go, dare
you go? Beautiful? Beautiful, beautiful like your your album cover. Well,
you know, first of all, I've got to actually, first
of all, welcome to the show. That's one thing when
you start interviewing people, you know, you're like, okay, get
back to the basics. Okay. But also, congratulations, I mean,
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being considered for a Grammy. That's a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So tense yourself, like, right, I mean this, We're the
new album Proof of What's Possible is being considered in
two categories, so best spoken word Poetry Album and best
Album Cover. And I'm like that little girl in middle
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school who used to write poetry in her notebook to
just try to make sense of the world and have
an outlet of expression. Could have not foreseen being in
this place that these expressions were coupled with powerful music
and the healing power of my voice would be touching
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and changing lives in this way and now for Grammy consideration,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right now, absolutely, Oh my goodness. Wow. You know, one
can only imagine that. My husband's a Grammy word mixing engineer.
And I asked him when we first that this is
way before me, and how did you feel about it?
It was just a Grammy. That's an engineer, you know,
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they're so used to be in the background, you know.
But I'm like, come on, shout, It's okay to shout.
It's a big deal, right, Yes, it is those moments
and celebrated big and loud.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yes, this is a part of a bigger picture on
the road to an egot. And it's like, well, because
you see an accomplishment like that, having an Emmy, a Grammy, Oscar,
a Tony, and you're like, okay, that's Those are four
different areas of expertise. Those are four different, you know,
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areas of artistry. And maybe you're in one area of
that artistry and not realizing that that can translate over
into another area of artistry. That you have more than
one gift in you that needs expression in the world.
And so to now have you to have first of all,
been obedient to the call, been obedient to utilizing my
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gifts in this way and putting it into this form
and not holding it to myself but sharing it with
the world has opened the door for this opportunity to
be present for me and the amazing collaborators that I
worked with and composers that I worked with on this album.
So I am like, it's a big deal. Like it
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definitely is a big deal because it's proof of what's possible, literally.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And that's what we're gonna be talking about today to
the audience. You're gonna be hearing our message all the
way throughout about what's possible. We had a great time
talking before. We both said that should have been recorded, right,
You're gonna get a lot today and you know, so
just sit back and in fact lean in, okay, because
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you're not gonna want to miss any moment anything that
comes out this lady's mouth. I mean, can we just
put our heads int on and just relax. Just hearing
a voice and you know, no matter what she says,
you know, have a being recognized for proof of what's possible.
And seeing how many people liked it, I got a
chance to listen to a little bit of it, and
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I was like, oh, my god. Okay, I'm just gonna
have to download this and when I have those moments
of doubts, because we all do right even when we
get there. I mean, like you, I've gotten a presidential
lifetime achieving the ward. But it wasn't a gold medal, okay,
but anyway, it was one. It was a little version
of the president.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But I sell that's exactly we celebrate everywhere everything.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, you know, so we both know what's possible because
like we talked about before this, neither one of us
could imagine how far we can go. So it doesn't
mean that you could be out on the streets tomorrow
and we've all heard stories of this, and before next
year is up, you could be at your highest height,
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just like you could be at your highest height, you know,
and as a fee and do you know you act
crazy about it and you would be down. So it's like,
you know, you got to have that balancing act, you
know on it. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I completely agree that life, the one thing that's constant
in life, has changed. And so you can be up
in an ebb of flow in abundance today and you
can have loss, you know, tomorrow and understanding that those
ebbs and flows do happen, and to be able to
stay grounded and in gratitude because everything in life is
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of service to you. It is a lesson for your
highest and best good, even in the challenges, even in
the difficult parts. It's giving us an opportunity to get
information that will show us something about ourselves or shift
that needs to happen within ourselves so that we can
have the things that we're asking for. But yeah, it
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could be great tomorrow a bank of count full of
money and then the next day gone, which a lot
of people experience in like the stock market or in cryptocurrency,
and you know, in a lot of different yeah, exactly
life situations, and so we know that that's a possibility.
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So you stay grounded in the truth of who you
are and the power you possess and what you really
have access to. That's what this album helps with those
reminders to know that no matter what it looks like
on the outside, you have access to infinite intelligence, You
have access to unlimited power, and tap into that so
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that you can get back in alignment with what you
really want and the experience that you can have because
it's available to all of us.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, what you really want? Ooh, that's so powerful because
I can't remember which speaker her just from, but I'm
curious if you ever heard it. He says, what you want,
Tavola wants you you.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes, I say this all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It's something about that that's so powerful. And I used
to be at my darkest moments and I would play
that and he said what you want, wants you and
for some reason I could go from sad to a smile.
It's kind of like, you know, we both met through
Judith Williamson at the Napoleon Hill Foundation, and you know,
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we know that the late great Napoleon's Hill says what
the mind can conceive or believe.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It can achieve. Yes, that huge, exactly. I'm a huge
student of Napoleon Hills, you know, principles of success. In fact,
I am the co author of the children's version of
Thinking We're Rich. So we worked directly with the Napoleon
Hill Foundation to bring those principles of success to children
for the first time in his and bringing Napoleon hills
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legacy onto the next generation. In the book The Amazing
Adventures of Oliver Hill, and I tell you that mindset,
like those principles are life changing principles, and that mindset
is necessary for you to make it through the ebbs
and flows that life is going to throw at you.
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Because that's the point of this experience is that I
can't know great if I don't know what's not great.
I need the polarity of experience so that I can
appreciate and have clarity on what I really want. I
need to know the opposite of it. So in those
times we get to tap in and to lock in
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to our to the principles that can keep us grounded
so that we don't feel like we're at a loss
or it's hopeless. You never want to feel hopeless in
what ever's going on in life, and that's why feelings.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, I don't know about you. I've been there, I
would say, past couple of years. It was so funny.
I went through COVID perfect. We built a couple of
agencies during that time. But as soon as we got
I always started making that curve out, like twenty what
is this twenty five? So I would say started feeling
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it in twenty three, and then a little bit more
in twenty four. It kind of booming. I remember telling
my husband, I feel it's like I feel so hopeless,
you know. And I was telling him, that's such a
bad feeling, you know, and I could feel myself spiraling down,
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and I was saying, I don't know if maybe I
need to, you know, talk to someone or something. And
I hope anybody just listening or watching this when you
start feeling it, don't keep it in share with someone
that's close to you, because sometimes you just need to
talk it out, and sometimes you need to find something
to lift you up. And that's why I did. I
had to find something to lift me up. My husband
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introduced me to this thing. I don't know if you
ever heard a gold brunch, and it's like you could
build different places no matter what you want, and the
little circles and everybody could come together and meet and
not have a screen in between it. And it was
like a dollhouse to me to get the dolls pretty
So inact after the show, I'm gonna actually show it
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because we have a Barbie version we call a Big
Girl Barbie. Yeah, I'm gonna show it. So it still
about five minutes to show that to you, and we'll
share the video out to you guys later. But that
was like building. It was like my creativity started coming
back because I got to you know, I kind of
took it further. We made it more immersia, you know,
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adding boats and virtual planes and stuff, and it lifted
me up.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So sometimes we just got to find that little flickering
of light. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, everything is energy invin vibration, everything.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay, yeah, everything, Because we're looking at a situation.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
In that situation it seems bleak or we're going through
a hard time, there's an energetic frequency to that, and
if you stay focused on that, you're going to stay
in that energy. But just like your husband gave you
the the advice to like, well, hey, let's try to
redirect our attention over here and start to take up
this hobby, Well, it's because over here that's a new energy,
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that's a new frequency that's associated with this. So how
that my focus has changed, my energetic frequency has changed.
And so having outlets when we are feeling down is
so important, whether that's so that we get those thoughts
and feelings outside of our bodies, talking to a friend
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or a counselor or someone who can help get another
perspective or finding a creative outlet like the one that
you have found, which allows you to really raise that
energy and frequency up. And it's like, Okay, now I
get to connect with people and build something and I
get to be the creator that I am, because we're all.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Creators, absolutely, absolutely, And I don't know about you. Well,
I do know about you, just from you know, meeting you,
but also hearing your audio. But it's something about when
you can take a vision or dream beyond you, isn't it.
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It's like a different feeling. I mean, you think you're
doing it for you because that's what it's appear, that's
what's on the surface. But then you know, I don't
mind saying God is my show. God says it's more
than about you. You're just a vessel of this to
open the doors for other people. Do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know? I love where in the Bible says here
I am send me, Here, I am send me. So
we have all been given gifts because we are interdependent.
So there's something for you to give and something for
you to gain, and so that thing that fills you up,
whether it's like you feel like I'm supposed to write
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that book. I'm supposed to sing that song. I'm supposed to,
you know, play that character on television. I'm supposed to
produce this, play that thing that fills you up and
you think, oh, this is this is just for me,
and it makes my energy feel good. That energy is
felt by others, that expression is felt by others. So
it becomes a cyclical pattern that we all get to eat.
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We all get to feed from us being true to
our gifts and letting them be birthed into the world.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So young, you get to eat.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh my goodness. Someone said it was still. She said
what you offering this album is a oral buffet and
I was like, whoa, And it's true when you talk
about eating and that yum yum. You literally get to
feed off of what was given to me, this information
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that was channeled through me, that I utilized from my
own you know, growth and empowerment. And it was like, no, no, no,
it's not just for you. It's not just for you.
I am utilizing you as a vessel to share this
so that everyone can benefit. Who was ready to receive it.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh my friend and old mentor halting bugs, big guy
in network marketing. Yes, I know your name, and so
he always said, you know, it's like eating that last
piece of sweet potato pie. Eat across, baby, eat across.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And that's the part. That's the part you.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Now proof was possible. I want to share with the
audience that we're going to talk about this. Y'all get this.
This album has captured so many hearts and especially the
heart of the Grammy that it has not one, but
two considerations Best Spoken Word Album and Best Album Cover.
In that album cover is off the as the kids
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used to say back in the day, hissy did did
she just say?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah? I did, y'all?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
She was off to change out there?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You really want it back?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
One inspired this deeply personal project because you can tell
us coming from not just your heart, but your gut
and your soul, you know, And how does it reflect
the transformations that you have owned along the way. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I've had such a i'll call it magical journey of
self development and growth. And I in my youth, I
dealt with a situation of being in like molestation and abuse,
and so the person who I believe myself to be
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at that time, it was so low, it was so
there was so much shame and guilt and pain that
I was dealing with, and so over the years of
doing digging deep to know that the one thing that
we need to know in life is to know thyself.
So digging deep to know thyself and then going into
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those layers and starting to pull out what is really me?
And then what are these things that have happened in
my life that do not define the me that I am?
And I worked with Tony Robbins and traveled around the
world you know, with him and learn from amazing minds
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and learn tools to be able to help to recondition
and reprogram my own belief system and things like neuro
linguistic programming r NLP. I've utilized plant medicines so like
ayahuasca and all of these things to help expand my
consciousness and heal on deeper and deeper levels. And as
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I've been on this journey of learning Havla and understanding
my place in this world, like why am I here?
What is this all for? What does it all even mean?
Because of those deep contemplations information, because we are connected
to God, infinite intelligence, universe, whatever people want to label,
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that greater force outside of us that is also within
us in that contemplation. So much information has been able
to be downloaded or channeled through me. And so I
would do those things on paper. I would write them
down as I would have questions, and I would go
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into silence and listen for the answer, because the answers
will come when we listen for them.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh that is so huge. A lot of people miss
the fact of how important listening what they say. God
gave us two years for a reason. You better know it,
you know. Sometimes we're so busy talking, we're missing the answer.
You know, we're missing everything because we just which is
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so easy to do, right, but listen. It sounds easy,
but it's really easier to do it, you know, than
to do it rather, you know, because we're so busy
talking and we want to get our point. We want
to get our point out, we want to get our
point out. And this is what causes such a big
gap in communication for most people, because everybody's trying to
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get their point out, and a lot of times is
what happens is you're seeing the same thing, you might
be saying it differently, you know. Because ever and my
husband one time we were arguing and we were like,
he's like, wait, we're on the same team. You know
what I'm saying, We just kind of slow down and
gather ourselves. And this is in business, this is in
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personal relationship and communicating period. And you're like, wow, okay,
were actually are saying the same thing. We're saying it differently.
We might have a slight different opinion. But if it's
just so important to listen, and that's what's missing in
the world today, right, you know, you know, I don't
want to get in politics, but I'm just saying, world
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in general, everybody's so busy trying to get their point
across that they're not listening.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, and then not listening to each other. We don't
get to realize that we all, at the core of it,
are saying the same thing. We're just saying it in
different languages where literally another like spoken language, or in
the language of theology, or the language of science or
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the language of quantum mechanics. Like, we're all saying the
same thing. But we just really have to listen with
our innerstanding, not even just with these two years, but
with our innerstanding that we are all connected. We all
want love, we all want instance who, we all want
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to live in an abundant universe that is continuing to
provide for us, Like we want to feel worthy, We
want to.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yes that what's our girl? Oh you know we did
respect just a little bit? Oh yeah right, you know yeah,
and people want to be recognized. Yeah, you know what
they say, babies cry for Some people died recognition. You know.
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I did a talk on that once and I felt
like that I actually had those low low moments, you know,
where it crosses your mind, will you know, nobody sees me,
nobody hears me, nobody cares. And it goes to what
you talk about in your album, you know that it's
it's a lot of times that's stuff we're telling ourselves.
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Sometimes people tell us and so that's you do have
those people. But then a lot of times it's what
you think people are perceiving about you. You know what
I'm saying. And then sometimes we have to check ourselves
and say, well what am I giving out? You know,
And it doesn't mean you have to change, but maybe
even step back and see how other people see you,
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and you can find a way to still be free,
to be you, but still but find a way to
be more accepted. At least that's what I have had
to do. I wonder if you ever had those moments.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And a lot of this comes from conditioning because and
there's a beautiful example or metaphor that was given, and
they were like elephants who are brought into circus environments
as a little a smaller elephant. They will tie a
string around their trunk or around the wrist of one
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of their legs, and they will tie it into a post.
And so every time the elephant tries to get away,
it can't. It's stuck and it's not powerful enough to
pull away from that string. But as that elephant grows
up and it gets older, they can remove the string
and the elephant stops trying to get away because it
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has become conditioned that it is in this imprisoned environment.
And so a lot of times we will come up
in certain familial environments, religious environments, societal environments that maybe
putting belief systems within us that we're not good enough,
that we're not smart enough, we're not pretty enough, whatever
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it is. And then we leave out of that environment
still with that belief system playing in the back of
our mind, and then we operate in the world in
that way. And so it really becomes upon us to
start to reprogram ourselves, which is why having amazing shows
like this where you can come and hear people's stories
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and get that encouragement that you need that there is
other things that are possible for you listening to an
album like Proof of What's Possible that will help instill
you with things that will lift you up and tie
you back to the truth of who you are and
the power you possess, because we all need that reprogramming
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throughout our lives.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, I love that is so powerful. That is so powerful.
I want everybody that's listening or watching this to really
not just hear have those words, but feel the words.
Because she talked about how important energy is and remember
what we speak about we bring about. So we have
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to be careful. When you heard that story I was
sharing about my husband kind of snapping me out of it,
and you know, because it was like I remember him saying,
hav Ala Raven, watch the words. You know you're having
people say the jokers say, do you hear the words
coming out of my mouth? He was like, do you
hear the words coming out.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Of your mouth?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Right? So sometimes we have to check ourselves. It's okay
to check ourselves when you're great.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, ooh, I'm so glad you just said that. Today,
Literally today, I posted a video on Instagram talking about
the power of our words and how they will manifest
in our lives. And I literally still have this notebook
here because I had created a vision book for myself
in twenty thirteen, and in that vision book, I wrote
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in there that I was a force of nature. A
force of nature. Now twenty thirteen, now fast forward to
twenty twenty five. This past Monday, I met a journalist
who ended up writing an article about me in the
album release in the film, and he titled the article
force of Nature, have alum alone.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Ooh ooh. I was like, wait, hold up, telling him
that those words at all?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And I went because when I read it, I was
like wait, and it triggered to me remembering wait, I
wrote that, like, I wrote that somewhere, and I went
and found this vision book I wouln't found it, and
I was like, oh, my goodness, these were the words
I put down what I declared into my life. And
we all have that power that what we declare over
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our lives that will come to fruition. So be careful
about what you declare about.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yourself that is so strong. Thanks for sharing that that
is so so strong, and yes you got We all
have to be careful remember what we speak about, we
bring about, you know, we don't want to attract the
wrong things. You know, Like I could have kept saying, oh,
I feel like you know, I'm spiring down and then
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hit the bottom. You know. So somehow you got to
figure out a way. And it's okay to get help.
That's the most important. It's okay to get help. Help
is important. Sometimes we think we got to do everything along.
You have to be choosing on who you go to.
Just keep it real. Some people a person that's going
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to honor where you're at and really care for you. Okay,
so let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Of the like frequency that you are are trying to
be because if you all down here on this lower
level frequency, then that's not there's nothing to pull from.
There's nowhere to go there. That's why we have to
go to people who and that's that's why, like I
joined communities of people who are way more accomplished than
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I am, that are you know, think greater thoughts than
I think. Because I'm like I always want to keep growing.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I always want to tell you don't want to just yeah,
you know, just reach a plateau. You know, you always
want to, you know. And it's not that you're forgetting
everybody else or you think you're bigger than everybody else.
It's about growth, it's about maturity, it's about expanding, it's
about possibilities. You stay level, you're missing all those future
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possibilities because you're you're stuck in settling for all the
possibilities you've met. There's more, there's so much more. Oh
my god, Okay, let's go back to your album. It's
so much I'm in love inspired by the album is,
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as you know, making waves on the festival circuit. What
was the story behind the project and how does it
tie into your larger message of healing and self love? Handle.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's so exciting because once I was given the vision
of the spoken word album and I was like, wow,
to be able to deliver these powerful message in this
auditory form. And I'm like, okay, well now I'm getting
to work on this, and the album was coming together,
and then I was given an expanded vision. I was shown, well,
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it's not going to just be made into this auditory form,
but it will inspire cinematic films based off of the
tracks of that album to be able to deliver these
messages to people in ways that they can receive it
or that you know, in multitude, in a multitude of ways.
And so I was like, wow, okay, and again, where
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you're given vision, you're also provided provision for that that
you can bring these things to life. And at first,
because I'm like, okay, well where do I start with this?
If I'm supposed to bring these to the film platform
in the filmmaking world, where do I even start? And
I was shown it was like, go where the energy
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is and I'm in Love just continue and that's the
first track on the album that continue to present itself
to me. So I was like, all right, well, I'm
in Love is the first one that we're supposed to
transform into a feature film then or into a short film.
Then you're gonna have to show me what this film is,
like what's happening? And I remember I was sitting down
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one day and these images started flooding into my mind
and I saw the opening scene of it and it
showed me about halfway through and I was like, wow,
that is amazing. I said, but you got to show
me all of it, because I can't do nothing with
half a film. So and so then later on another
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it was a totally different concept, a totally different you know,
vision came through of what that was supposed to look like.
But again it wouldn't show me the whole thing. And
I was like, I will be obedient to my assignment
to bring this to life, but you need to show
me what it is I need to do. And then
I remember sitting down and it showed me from the
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opening scene all the way through to the end, and
I was like, wow, that is powerful. And I was like, okay,
I get it now, like I receive it. And I
immediately went and created a storyboard and just put down
all of the scenes, all of the images that came
through in that download. And then I was even given
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who the director was supposed to be, who the cinematographer
was supposed to be, who our production coordinator was supposed
to be. And I was like, okay, you're giving me
these people, You're giving me these names. Now my job
is to reach out and ask and now whether they
say yes, whether they say no, like we'll find out
and get yes. And our director Roberta Sparta. I remember
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reaching out to her and sharing the vision of what
it was, letting her hear the album itself, and she
was like, yes, I'm in on this project. And it
literally and and for the nose that came through from
individuals or locations that we were looking to get, those
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ended up being the best things that could have happened,
because the ones that said yes made what this film is,
which is literally internationally awarded film. We actually have a
show in coming up or screening coming up in the
me Show Film Festival here in LA. We've been recognized
by the California Legislature for our cultural contributions with this project,
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like we won the film a Brilliance Award. Like it is.
It is literally transforming people's lives. And I am so
grateful that I have just been obedient to my assignment.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Your assignment. That is huge, That is so huge. Oh
my god, I just give you yes, yes, yes, y'all, yes,
see what's possible? See yeah, And you don't even know
it most of the time. You just got to be open,
you know, just open for what's out there and and
(35:35):
don't always second guess yourself or you know, think that
it's not your time, you know. When I got the
Presidential Lifetime Achievement a word. When I got that email,
I was like, okay, this is a joke. This is
a joke. Okay. And it took me like four days
to respond to them, to send them, you know, the
information and all the stuff they needed on me. They
(35:57):
just said, you know, you denominated. And so my son
and said, well, you can't keep getting the same email
and it be a joke. And he said, there's a
phone number down there, call it, you know. But I
almost missed that opportunity of giving them what they because
you don't get the award for nothing. You gotta you know,
they're gonna bet you and stuff, you know, and so
(36:18):
uh oh, we were on our own time anyway. But
and then I was quiet about it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I was quiet.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I think I did one video when we got there
to get the ward, and the they had us in
the back room with food and all that stuff. So
I took a little clip. And then when I got
the war, I didn't even tell nobody, like till days later.
It was almost like I didn't think I was worthy
of it. Have you ever had moments just curious? Have
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you ever had a moment and it was a big moment,
and you, rather than blasting it to the world, you
held onto it and you shouldn't do that. I feel
like I cheated myself as I look back. You know,
a few years ago, I put out a press release
because somebody said you need to put out a press
release and drip that you had that in there, and
(37:13):
they like, you got a press release company with a
press release at by yourself. But see, that's the casper
within me. And I think some of us, you know,
my Caspers out there, you know who I'm talking about.
We're so caspery. We want the accolade, but we don't
share it. And I mean it's like, why would you
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have a Grammy or a trophy and all this stuff
and not say I got a Grammy, I got a
war It's okay, you know it sterious.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
How do you know a lot that that comes It
can come from like our upbringings and the programming of
you know, well you need to be humble or you know,
you don't want to brag or be braggadocious, not realizing
that yes there are you know, lines that can be crossed,
but it comes from intention, Like it's my intention to
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like try to make you feel bad because you don't
have what it is that I have, or is my
intention to just truly celebrate and be grateful for what
it is and I am being blessed with and from
that intention, you will bless other people because now I
get to see that, Wow, she won this award. It's
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possible for me to win an award like that, Like
I didn't even know that that thing existed until she
shared it like that. That's what people can walk away
with when we actually share our journeys. Our journeys are
not just for us. And there definitely been times in
my life that I have won awards or been honored
with different things and then I'm just kind of like uh,
(38:47):
and then I've shrunk, like I just I'll shrink around
it and like cause then my mind would start saying, well,
it's not that big or it's not that great, or
you know, I had to do xway and Z to
be able to get it, and so it wasn't this,
you know, just ah bestowed up on me from God,
you know, and it was just kind of like hold
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the wait, wait, wait, small and great things is it?
More will be given to those who appreciate the small things.
So you cannot try to diminish or allow anyone to
diminish anything that you accomplish. And you have the right,
it is your divine right to celebrate and share that
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because that was the gift that was given to you
and we all get blessed the sharing of those things.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, have to hold on to every little mountain that
you climb, every little accolade that you get, you have
to celebrate it. And thank goodness, social media has really
evolved in the years, you know, because that was I
got Minds in two thousand seventeen. It was still pretty big.
(40:02):
But now, I mean all you're seeing is help me celebrate,
Help me celebrate, help me celebrate. But back then it
was more like like you said, I think people looked
at it more as braggadocious maybe, But have you noticed
that it's it's kind of like the thing now everybody
and people are saying, help me celebrate. I lost five pounds,
help me celebrate. I finished the book. So it doesn't
have to be anything big. And I think it's good.
(40:24):
We're here to have those happy, glowing moments and that's
a vibration. You're just holding it within yourself like that.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Because that's a vibration, that's an energy, and that will
build momentum for even more wins. So it's like, again,
whatever you focus on grows. So if I focus on
winning and I focus on happiness and I focus on celebration,
I'm gonna have more and more stuff to celebrate. I'm
gonna win more and more because God is like, oh
that's what you want. Cool, here you go.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I wants you what you want, what you want, wants you, Yes, yes.
And you know I used to love Charlie Sheen when
he would say winning winning Winny, Look that's.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Me and DJ Kell It look a win, win win,
no matter what.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Really winning. I mean, you know, I got signs winning
and go for it and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I was talking to someone the other day. Oh it
was I'm sure you met her Lawnda Jones. Oh yeah,
I interviewed her yesterday. It's such a great interview. Yeah.
And you guys have that spoken word part of you
in common too, And so I was telling her that
we were talking about words and the power words, and
I was like, yeah, like these two words I keep hearing.
(41:45):
Let's go Now, I'm like, let's go. I've been hearing
that every since I could probably talk. But now all
of a sudden, you hear people, let's go, let's go,
And it's a whole different vibration, isn't it. You know
what I'm saying. I mean, everybody, the older people, let's go,
let's call it. It's just and it gets you excited. Movement,
(42:07):
Let's go. They just took the vibration up.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It gets you out of inertia. It gets you out
of that like stagnant. It's movement and everything about movement.
It's about going in these ebbs. And it's so the
more you can stay in that elevated vibration and that
elevated consciousness, watch the things that come into your life
because you become a magnet. You become a magnet for
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more things like it, like people want to give you things,
People want to give you opportunities, people want to bless
you with all kind of stuff because of that energy
and vibration. So it becomes our job to stay there.
It becomes our job to stay there and.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Stay there, but to know when it's time to move
forward too, Yes, because you don't want to just stay there,
you know, getting your lazy chair and sit back and
drink your wine and relax and settle because wait, there's more.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
There is more. That's all. I will leave this life.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
On e everything, yes, everything that has been put into
me to do the lessons that I'm here to learn.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
And I have been learning some very and some lessons
through tough ways. It hasn't always like it's been very
difficult paths to learning these lessons. But every time I
learn a lesson, it's like graduating from that class, graduating
from that level, and I get to bring that when
with me as I move on to the next level
(43:47):
of life, the next experience of life, and I'm just like, wow,
this is what it's like up where the air is
a little bit clear. This is what it's like where
things are a little bit sunnier. Have to do the
work to get there.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Action action, go back to my cheerleaders days ac action
action right, help me put it down now really a
c T. I oh an, you gotta have that still
talk about that, because we talked about a little bit more.
(44:23):
Tell tell them I'm gonna sit back and drink my water, girl.
Tell them about that action. You know.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
And there are laws that of the universe, the way
this universe operates, and there is a law of action.
A lot of people have heard of and Noah from
from the Secret and from a lot of you know,
master teachers around the law of attraction, and that's a
very powerful law. But there's also the law of action.
(44:47):
So even once you bring yourself into that vibration that
is going to attract opportunities to you, you still got
to do something. And we will often have inspired action
like I'll tell you, okay, call call so and so,
call Johnny, call Ann. Now you're being inspired to do something,
(45:09):
Are you going to pick up the phone and make
the phone call? Because that phone call could lead to
a business deal, That phone call could lead to a
life changing moment or opportunity. But we have to take
the action and move forward. This album would not have
been made had I not start went into a studio
and recorded it, started to reach out to composers to
(45:31):
find the individuals who are going to bring together the
beautiful musical landscape that made this possible, getting it submitted
to the Grammys for consideration. Like, none of those things
happen without the accompanying actions. And so yes, there's a
part that we have to play in the unfoldment of
our lives and the creation that we want to be
(45:54):
a part of our experience. It takes action.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, it takes acting, y'all. And here it is. Let
me tell you, you have it within you to take
that action. Yeah, so let's let's help them out a
little bit. So when you know you got something big
to do, do you ever have those moments where you
(46:19):
procrastinate into the last minute to get it done? And
if you do, how do you get from procrastination to
really just doing it? Girl? Just do it. Let's go,
let's go right.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yes, you know what. It's interesting and and I've done
a lot of like contemplating or meditation on this as
well as like writing on it because procrastination, because I
can find myself at times like there's a task or
something that I need to do, and I will wait,
(46:53):
I will wait, and I will continue to wait, and
I'm like, wait, why are you waiting until this last
minute to to do the thing that you know you
need to do. You have something that you need to
write out and you need to send it, you know,
for approval, or you have something that you need to
purchase or whatever, and you're you're waiting to do the thing.
(47:13):
And what I have found in my life is that
sometimes procrastination is God's redirection and that yes so. And
I'll give you a specific example. My original plan for
this album was to do a Waterfall release, meaning that
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we would release each track individually, so basically with like
a two week period in between, we released each track
until the full album was released. And I had created
this whole timeline for when each track was going to
be released, the marketing and you know, all the things
that were going to go around each of those tracks,
and I kept like things, it just kept feeling like
(47:59):
there was delayed, and I was like procrastinating and taking
the action of getting getting the album solidified and finished,
and I kept finding things that we wanted to tweak,
and it was just kind of like, wait, wait, wait,
you have this timeline in place and this whole plan
in place for this release, but it's not happening in
this time. And come to find out, because there is
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a Grammy submission window that had we released it in
that way, we would have basically taken ourselves out of
even the possibility of being in Grammy consideration because we
would have been in two separate submission periods and so
but I had no idea of that. But guess what
(48:43):
God did, the universe did. It knew ultimately what I wanted.
It knew ultimately that we wanted to be able to
have a project that could be up for Grammy consideration.
And it was like, but if I allow you to
follow your plan and your timeline, it's not going to happen.
So I'm gonna sit you down. I'm gonna slow you
(49:03):
down so that all these other pieces that need to
come together to make sure that you can have this
opportunity come into alignment right on time.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Oh, I'm so glad you shared that. Thank you, thank you,
thank you. Did you guys hear that? I mean, she
could have missed that opportunity. It was of her so
many times Havela, We're like, oh, God, just give me this.
If I only had this, if I only had this,
if I only had this, and then opportunity not and
(49:32):
they we're like, but well, it's you know, this is
the opportunity that you've been praying for the past month,
the year, wherever it may, and I came in the
form that you imagined it or thought it would be envisioned.
It it's another form, but it's the opportunity. And some
people always say, have a little well, you know, go
(49:57):
for it. They say let's go, and they go for
it and don't look back, and the other people will
just keep looking behind, looking at the door. It goes
from this to this to this, then it goes back
to being closed. Why do you think we do that?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
You know what? We are always in this like we're
learning ourselves. We're in this process of learning what was
taught to us, program in from behaviors that we saw
coming up, ways of being that we saw and we
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were told this is the way that you should live
your life, this is how you should operate in the world.
Out of safety, out of survival, out of whatever it was.
And then there's the versions of us that we want,
like our goals, our dreams, the things that we see
for ourselves, and they may not be in alignment with
the things that we were taught or the way that
(50:57):
we've been operating, and will go a little bit towards
our dream and then we will fall back into old
habits and patterns and then start playing small again, or
then we go go a little bit further and then
can go back and So it's really a constant process
of creed, of changing what is in your unconscious mind
(51:20):
and your internal belief system with what you're consciously saying
that you want the thing that you're writing down on
the paper and saying, here are my goals, here are
the things I want from my life. But your belief
system has to match that, and sometimes it takes time
to reprogram that belief system, and that can be positive
affirmations of you declaring over your life who you really are,
(51:44):
that I am powerful, I am smart, I am successful,
I am rich, I am abundant, I have perfect health.
I can oh doors of opportunity or opening to me.
Every single day. Checks are flowing into my bank account
and increasing quantities on a day basis. So when we
start to cheap, girl, I love money and money loves me, Yes,
(52:10):
it's to them more that that starts to seep into
our unconscious mind. And there are processors or tools that
can help that process happen faster. But when we're talking
about auto suggestion, which Napoleon Hill talks about, and thinking
we're rich, which auto suggestion is us reaffirming to ourselves
in words and thoughts, that takes a longer period of
(52:32):
time for our unconscious mind to pick that up and
be like, oh, so that's what we believe now, Oh
that's what life is for us. Now okay, I can
now get on board with this. Now I'm gonna re
align my life and my habits and behaviors to align
with this more powerful version of myself that is you.
(52:54):
Because we are that powerful version, we just have to
bring it out.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Hey, y'all, you know I got to say this and
then we're gonna take a quick commercial break and remind
people about what's going on with you right now. But uh,
you know what, you have created the title proof of
What's Possible. It feels like both a declaration havla and
(53:22):
a challenge. So my question to you is what one moment,
one moment in your life, if you're willing to share
it with us, you feel it's when you proved something
was possible that others said couldn't be done, You couldn't
do it.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
M hm, oh my goodness. You know what. Really, there's
two things that pop into minds. I'll share this one first.
My when I was in high school, I used to
be a part of this junior league program where we
used to try I real cases in court. And so
all of our defendants were already found guilty of their
(54:04):
crimes and we just got to argue their sentencing before
the judge. And so my first path in life, or
the thing that I wanted to do, was to become
a lawyer. I was like, I love, you know, being
in a court situation and being able to present an
argument that could sway someone, you know, to give them
an opportunity in their life. And so when I graduated,
(54:25):
I graduated high school and started college when I was sixteen,
and so I had to make a decision, what are
you going to go and study? And so I decided, well,
I can go to law school and you know, become
a lawyer, or I could just play one on TV.
I was like, and I think that probably will be
more fun. So I ended up getting a degree in
dramatic Arts of communication and a minor in psychology. Now
(54:47):
fast forward, I had accomplished a lot of things in
my life in my career, and I wanted to go
to UCLA. I wanted to move out to California when
I was sixteen, but because I I started college so young,
my parents were like, yo young. Now, yourself. No, ma'am,
you find something local and you staying behind right here
in Louisiana. And so I ended up going to the
(55:10):
University of New Orleans and so that dream of being
out in California just kind of got squashed. And so
now fast forward, it was in twenty nineteen. I had
just come off of being My video had gone viral
on gold Cast and it was a speaking engagement that
(55:30):
I had done, and it was about following your childhood dreams,
and so many people were inspired and were like, I'm
following it, like I'm going to nursing school now, like
this has inspired me. And I just remember waking up
that next morning. So I had this huge win and
then you know, this thing goes viral and then I
wake up the next morning. I'm depressed. I'm literally and
(55:53):
I cannot, for the life of me figure out why
I'm feeling like so just out of source and low.
And what I realized was like from our journaled, I
called a friend. We talked for five hours. I'm like,
thank you, Sandra Richardson. Well, he talked for five hours
(56:13):
and I went on a walk. I was like, maybe
I just need to move this energy through me. And
what I came to realize was you have not followed
your childhood dream. You literally changed the trajectory of your
life to you did not become a lawyer because you
said you were going to play one on television. And
I've all the things that you've accomplished in your life
(56:34):
so far, You've still never played that lawyer on television.
And when I finally said, okay, I'm going to move
to California, and there were people around me that was like, Okay,
now you know California is expensive, Now you know California.
You know, just all the you know thoughts about it
potentially not happening. But I held true to my vision
(56:58):
because I was like, I know what I need to do,
and now it's time for me to take that hitch.
And I literally within five months moved out to California
and have been here since twenty nineteen, and I did
land a role on HBO's Insecure as a lawyer. Insecure.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yes, that is so awesome. I've seen you on so
many different things, and you know, you're, like you said,
proof of what's possible, you know, because there's going to
be the naysayers, and some of them aren't naysayers just
because they're they're hating. They're nay sayers because of their
belief level, not yours. Of their belief levels.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
There's fear for you, their fear that something could go wrong,
and they don't want you to be hurt. You know,
it could come out of a place of love sometimes,
but we cannot buy into the limitations of someone else's
mind or circumstances. We have to be bigger.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, and not even your circumstances, because you know your
circumstances you're in now does not define you or where
you're going. You're the architecture of your life's got to
own it and take action. Let's go. In fact, let
me say this to you. Hey, really, I want to
(58:18):
say this to all of you. If you're loving what
you're hearing from, have a lot in our conversation, you're
absolutely gonna want to experience. Have a lo. Malone's latest masterpiece,
proof of What's Possible Now in Grammy consideration for Best
Spoken Word Album, Hey and Best Album Cover. Hey Hey.
(58:41):
This project is more than an album, it's a movement.
And you know, amazing womenmen in power, legends and icons yesterday, today,
and tomorrow. That's what we're about. We're about taking what
you think is just about you and turning it into
a movement. Yeah, into a movement. The good, the bad,
the ugly, all that you went through. Pull those lessons
(59:04):
in and help others. That's how it becomes a movement,
taking it way beyond you and passing it on. So
don't miss her award winning short film I'm in Love
screening October twenty four at the Okay is that Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
The show film YEP in the Culver Theater in California.
What time is that? Thirty?
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Oh my god, you guys, you gotta make it. You
gotta make it. I'm gonna try if I can get there,
if I get in, if I can sneak to the
back door, you're gonna leave the back door crat game.
We're gonna have the red already. Look, I got to
speak that morning, but I'll be back in time, for sure.
You guys can visit Hamela Habla malone dot com and
(59:55):
she spells at h j A v I l A
h M A l O N and eat dot com.
We'll have it in the show notes. You can stream
watch and discover what's truly possible for you Uh, listen
to your own Spotify, you know, you listen to your
own heart everywhere. I had a chance this morning I
was getting ready. I'm like listening to it so more.
(01:00:17):
It's great. It's gonna lift you up. It's gonna lift
you up. Now, Hal you've spoken openly about overcoming when
you mentioned a few minutes ago childhood trauma and self doubt.
How did those experiences? Do you feel really shaped the
woman you are now and not even the woman, but
the leader you've become.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I feel like it's definitely given me a lot more compassion,
you know, and understanding because when we experience trauma, and
there's more of us than not, Like we all experience
our challenges in different ways through life, because that's just
a part of life. But to actually have like deep
seated traumas that we have experienced, either emotionally or physically,
(01:01:03):
that can change us in a multitude of ways. And
for me, you know, going through my healing journey, it
has allowed me to not only understand people deeper and
to see that a lot of times our coping mechanisms
will come out in a variety of ways. For me,
as I was trying to internally wrap my mind around
(01:01:27):
and make sense of my world. You know, when I
was dealing with the trauma, I started collecting Barbie dolls,
and I a massive collection of over three hundred Barbie
dolls that were I would never like. They were all
in the box, and it was almost a metaphor for
my own life where these dolls that I could see
(01:01:47):
as its external representation. They were safe, and they were
in the box, and they were clean, and they were untouched,
and that's not how I felt. And they had all
these career opportunities and they were beautiful, and that's not
what I saw within myself, but it was what I
desired for myself, and they became that anchor for me
until I could become it myself. And I've seen in
(01:02:10):
the situations where people have experienced trauma where they become
hoarders or you know, they will act out in a
lot of ways, and so you know that they are
coming that is the trauma that is or that unhealed
part of them, that is what's lashing out or is
acting out in the world. And so being able to
have compassion for those situations though people not condoning, you know,
(01:02:34):
any of the behavior, but being able to see beneath
the surface. I feel like it's one of the greatest
gifts that has come out of my own experiences.
Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Yeah, sometimes, you know, you want people to take that
deep dive, like you said, beneath the surface of what
they see, whether they're seeing you on TV. People used
to see me with my hat and my microphone walking
around and were getting a whole different vibe and then
they were like, wow, you know, they joined my mastermind
(01:03:05):
or something like wow, God, you got so much heart
and stuff like that. You know. I'm like, yeah, that's
just branding, you know, because you got to find your
way of standing out in the crowd, you know, and
the casper within me. You know this just get up,
you guys, see this. I'm still raving the casper still
that that's that's who I am at the core because
of my trauma and because of the things and a
(01:03:29):
lot of it was self given, you know, but it's
embedded in me so long. So you have those moments
and I really want I want you guys to really
understand that just because you see me or have a
lower any anybody Michelle Obama or anybody at their at
(01:03:49):
the highest moment, and you're like, Oh, I wish I
could be them. They're human. We're all human, and I
am gone through surprise ugly did she talk about Yeah,
we all have to do something, So don't get caught
up on what you see on the service. No, we're
all human. We all have those times that we have
(01:04:10):
to fight that inner demon, whatever it is, and pull
ourselves back up. Give them three tips, have alah on
how you're able, and maybe in mentoring people able because
I see you with kids and different things to help
people pull themselves back up. And the reason I'm asking
(01:04:31):
this and we're gonna close shortly, is because of where
we're at right now in the world. And just take
the politics out of y'all. Don't get caught up in that,
because one thing is certain. You got to step up
for yourself. You got to step up and show up
for yourself. Don't be worried about checks coming in, because
(01:04:54):
checks come in, they can stop. You got to be
a creative. This world is allowed on us thanks to AI.
I love AI. I won't start your teacher. I love
I wish I would have had AI years ago, wait
before my seventies, but I'm telling you it's helping me
as a seventy four year old woman to really do
(01:05:15):
stuff that I never even thought I do. You know
the things that we talk about possibilities. So don't get
in your own way. Don't get in your own way.
She's been talking about possibilities. You heard her story, you've
heard my story, you've heard other people on the show's story.
Stop being the excuse for you not moving forward. Stop
(01:05:36):
waiting on checks. The checks coming in, that's a bonus.
But you better know how to take care of yourself.
If you had to start all over again today with nothing,
what would you do? You know what you could lean
into possibility right having.
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Little Yes, we are spiritual beings having a human experience.
These physical bodies that we are in are the vehicles
that we get to walk through this life in. It
is not who you are. You are so much more
than that and so much more than any circumstance that
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you have ever gone through in life. And so you
get to go into that internal quiet place and explore
for yourself what it is that you light up around,
what it is that you are curious about, what it
is that you feel called to in this life, and
(01:06:35):
that thing is your gifting, and your gift can provide
you with checks. That's the creativity that you can bring
out into the world because there's somebody who needs what
you have and only the way that you can deliver it.
And you have to know that you have to own that.
And when you asked about three, you know tips around,
(01:06:58):
you know being able to work through those difficult times
that we go through. And I'll say one journaling, we
will have so much inside of us and it will
be thoughts that are be swirling around, whether you're dealing
with a difficult situation and you're trying to make sense
of it or trying to figure out possibilities, and then
(01:07:19):
you're allowing all of life to compile inside of the vessel.
You need to get it out of the vessel so
that it's not clogging that channel of communication. So when
you write it down, you get to pull it out
of you put it, let the paper hold it, you
don't have to hold it, Let God hold it, you
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don't have to hold it, And that will start to
allow more the flow. It's like it's like having a faucet.
Once you allow the fawcet to flow, I get all
the gunk out first, and then guess what's some brilliance
is in there too.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Get the gunk out of y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yes, and then from the.
Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Paper, let it hold it. I love that, I absolutely
love that. Have loved one went from Barbie's being in
a box to billboards, to TV, to the Awars and
now being considered for Grammy Oh my god, first spoken
word in her album, oh mg. And you know what
(01:08:23):
she felt like? She was trapped in her own box
and she said it was those limiting beliefs. Oh my goodness.
Uh okay, so journaling what else journaling?
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
So the second one is to.
Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Help them get out that box, right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Yes, oh my goodness. You will find that, like you will.
It's almost like a weight gets lifted because you get
to start clearing space inside of yourself. So it's a
very powerful tool to movement. We spend so much time
behind our computers or like city down in a sedentary
(01:09:01):
watching TV, whatever it is. Our bodies were made to
move so to be able to get out in nature
because connecting with the sun, that vitamin D will fill
your body like that will shift your energy. That alone
will shift your energy. Getting sun and if you're moving
in that sun, that those cells are starting to flow,
(01:09:25):
that energy is starting to flow. And again it's another
way of moving things through you. And as you're walking
those you will start to commune with nature, the beauty
that's around you, that you're surrounded with every day, that
we often take for granted because we're not looking. We're
(01:09:46):
so busy and so focused on the task at hand
and the doing of life, that we forget that we
live in a miracle. Like we are a miracle and
we live in a miracle.
Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, yeah, and so we forget.
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yes, we forget because we get so disconnected from nature
because we're and I love technology. I love you know,
I'm a part of quite a few like technology groups
and like there's a future tax selon and like AI
and using utilizing these tools to help.
Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Us to expand them.
Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Exactly and in that that could be a whole nother show, Lord,
because we can breaking through the fear you know, of
of of as as the world is changing, as technology
is changing, you know, that doesn't mean that you were
being moved to the side.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Yeah, you have to step up.
Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
That's it's making us step up. I ain't gonna take
my job or take my husband around the way. Number thought.
Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
This one's gonna stay. Look, yes, so get out move.
When you talk about let's go like that, let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Oh my god, I love that. It like you want
to get up and go, it tis.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
And that won't help so much. And number three is
finding an empowering community. We so often think that we
have to do things alone, that like, it's just me
dealing with this particular problem, it's just me who's trying
to accomplish this particular thing, or it is at this
stage of the development of this thing when there are
(01:11:40):
more people who are like you or who are at
different stages of where you are, who want to come together,
who need to come together in community to share like
thoughts and resources and gifts. Because you can get a
lot further stir in community. And that you have one
battery that you but when you put a whole bunch
(01:12:02):
of batteries together, baby, you can power a whole city. Yeah,
to get in community.
Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Yeah, oh my god, oh my god. This is so good. Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna close up. But I want to
ask your final question, ask you continue havla to rise.
You know, from music to film to global all they
sense and you know, I can I'm just envisioning you
getting that grammy. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm just saying that, Hey,
(01:12:30):
what what do you want your legacy to say about
what's possible?
Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Mm hm hm hmm. That it's all possible, that you
can come from any situation in life, deal with any circumstance,
and still your deepest desire, the desires of your heart
are waiting for you. They want you just as much
(01:13:02):
as you want them. And if you just take one step,
one step, God, the universe, infinite intelligence, It'll take ten.
Just take the one step, and as you take that step,
more of your path will be open to you. Often
(01:13:24):
we think, or we want everything to be shown to us,
everything in our path, everybody who we're gonna meet, every
step we're gonna take, every turn that's gonna happen, what
was gonna happen around that corner. And that's not how
life works, because it is a gift and it's a
journey that we chose to come and be a part of.
So enjoy the ride and go after what you want
(01:13:48):
because it also wants you.
Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
What you want wants you. Yeah, So go out there
and get it and be the proof for what's the.
Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Proof of what's possible.
Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Thinking. Let's go, let's get to know Habila. Ya all ready, Okay,
it's time to get to know Habila and our rapid
fire get to know Havlo questions. So here we go,
Halo you ready, we're gonna do these and you know
how the rapid fire go. Rapid fire answers. Okay, favorite
red carpet? Look you ever worn?
Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Mmmm this? There's this red dress that I actually wore
in a film, that I wore on a red carpet
when I was in twenty twenty three when I got
awarded for Artists of the Year. It is a gorgeous
diva divine dress.
Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Yees, I can you tell which one film? It was?
Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
In the name of the film because it was at
the now the Network of out Standing Women in Vegas
at the Poems is where I was awarded.
Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
And yes, yes, yes, right, okay. Favorite song that instantly
lifts your mood?
Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Mm hmm, I feel glorious, glorious Mackailmore, yes, glorious.
Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Okay. You know what's mine is? I can't think of
her name. It's called the Kleine.
Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
God, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
But I go to listen to the one.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
What was the name of the one that you said again?
One right now?
Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
It's called glorious by Mackalemore.
Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
By macamore. Okay, dream role of a project. I think
we kind of talked about that before that you haven't
done yet before we can't talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Is going to join be to join the m c U,
which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a villain.
Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Ah, we can make you a villain with a that's
the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Look all my telekinesis and my my power, my special
abilities and powers. Yes, there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
How to get out the way because of us? Coming
word that describes the woman you are today?
Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Powerful, m.
Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Powerful and this is an easy one for but we'll
give it to her anyway. Finish this sentence. I am
proof of what's possible. I am. I would want to
say that you do. That's what you do. Hey, everyone,
don't forget to check out have a thtos proof of
(01:16:44):
what's possible streaming everywhere now and experience her short film
I'm in Love screening this month at you say the
name of the theater because I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, this is a Culver Culver theater and was wanting
yes at the Meat Show Film Festival.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yes. For more inspiration, visit havlam alone dot com and
Havla is h A b I l A h okay.
And I just want to close out saying that what
an inspiring, soul shifting conversation this has been. I mean,
my god, we first time we actually really seeing each
(01:17:25):
other other than on social media and spending some time together.
This has been so great. You know, you are a
living embodiment of power and purpose and possibility. I call
you the new Era Maya Angela. That's what I think
of you. As soon as I cut that on, That's
(01:17:46):
what I said. That's fine, yeah, wow, yeah. And you
have shown us and continue to show us, you know,
proof of what's possible through your journey, but you also
help us to go back through our journey so we
can recognize everything that was possible. When I think a
(01:18:09):
little raven turning that brush up, you know, ask my
dad to build me a stage, and then you know,
running around the house. And then as I got older,
you know, with the brush up, pretending I'm on the
mic being a DJ, then sneaking to the neighborhood radio
station WJMO and Cleveland, and then I heard that one
thing at the hospital by my mother's bedside while I
was on a conference call with Alex Hendosia, and he said,
(01:18:31):
the quickest way to become an expert is to interview experts.
And there's this real cool thing called podcasting you could
do on a free conference call line. You can ask speakers,
authors and other people to come on and share their
story and it will help you push past your pain
to your power. And that's what I did. That was
two thousand and six. Here we are twenty twenty five,
(01:18:56):
nineteen years Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Great, And I have to thank you for listening to
that internal call from that little raven who was there
with the microphone in the brush form, who listened, and
when the opportunity presented itself to actually do the thing
that you felt called to, you answered the call. And
(01:19:22):
that's why I'm able to be here today with you
on the platform that you have created and that you
have allowed and opened up to so many people to
share their story and be a blessing to others because
you chose to be obedient to your gift.
Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. My son used to say, Mom,
you have to listen to the voice inside you because
I was always going from job to job, job to job,
sometime working three jobs because I was a single parent.
And he said, Mom, sometimes you just got to slow
down and listen to the voice inside you guide you
and see that the hot I never slowed, so God
(01:20:02):
slowed me down. My mom was at that hospital. I
was in the ICU unit for three weeks, you know,
and I knew. I'm like, I got to step up
and show up because you know, I feel like she's
gonna make it, but I feel like she's going to
be different. And she was a matriarch of the family.
You know. I was going to her when I was
a little, you know, a grown kid, borrowing money for rent,
(01:20:24):
you know how we do. And so now I had
to step up. So I had to listen to that voice.
So as we closed out, I like for you to
talk about how important it is for us to slow
down and take a moment, meditate and listen to the
voice inside us to guide us and maybe, you know,
give us maybe just a chinch bit of what you
(01:20:45):
say on the album, just just a chinch let's hear
the raw hala. I don't have any music.
Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Though, yeah, right, and you know in terms of like
meditation and slow and gown. It's so important for us
to be able to do that because that's the only
way we're going to hear that internal guidance system, that
voice that comes from within because they are so we
(01:21:13):
live in an attention system and attention getting.
Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
World.
Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
So you've got advertisements coming at you all the time,
You've got people in their opinions coming at you all
the time. Like there's so much that is constantly coming
at you to pull your attention. And so you're listening
to this, there's watching that. But when do you give
time to be with you and to listen to you
and be guided by that internal knowing. So when we
(01:21:43):
do go into silence, I used to do like walking meditations,
and so when I would be outside of nature and walking,
that's what I would get, Like a lot of my
downloads would come. That's when a lot of information would come.
Being in that environment and movement, I would get, you know,
that clarity of thought. And so it's so important that
(01:22:06):
we give ourselves that time. And you may think, well,
I don't have the time. I need to be working,
I need to be like constantly going, And it's like
if you don't have time for you, then how do
you expect other people to make time for you. You
can't get what you don't have to give.
Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Mm hmmm. And I will like here just a little
bit from one of the tracks on the album, and
I think, even without the music whatever, just the the.
Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Word yeah, I mean you the now, Mari Angelo, you
got it? Like that? Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
I love that. So this is track this is actually
the last track on the album, is called Beneath the
Waters Beyond the Stars, and it goes I was born
of water, life giving waters that flow in and as
the fiber in the fabric of the universe. Sunlight beaming
(01:23:11):
through the pores of my skin, the warm, welcoming glow
bringing comfort and confidence within a spiritual physical merging of
perfection and human form. A heart that beats with the
tenor of the earth. Treble felt in the tone of
(01:23:35):
my voice, the lyrical truth of existence that springs from
my lips. The truth in me, as me to me,
The truth is me ooh wait in me.
Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
As me to me, Yes, yes, yes, yes, oh my God.
If you stand and sit down and you said.
Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Stand up on that hale them alone, how.
Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Can we help you as we close out with this
Grammy consideration. Is there anything we can do? We need
to go out and hold up signs, have a little.
Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Like I said, not half of it for president, but
hal of for poetry.
Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Yeah, if there are Recording Academy members who are out there,
I would love for you to consider this album proof
of what's possible under both the Best Spoken Word Poetry
Album category and the best album cover. And then for
those of you were able to see this on and
it's available on all streaming platforms from Spotify to Apple
(01:24:46):
Music to you know you getting find it on YouTube.
You know if you don't have a streaming platform, and
this is actually that our album cover for those who
are seeing the video version of this, but yes, to
go out and con this album, to give it your
vote to you know, allow us to continue to share
this on bigger and bigger platforms. And even if you're
(01:25:08):
not a Recording Academy member, go and check out the
album for yourself. Allowed.
Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, we want to get those streamings, those streams right.
Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
And allow it to be the soundtrack of your expansion,
be that anchor for you into the truth of who
you are, like allow that to help in your growth
as you move through this life and embody your gifts
and do what you came out into this world to do.
So I am. I'm super grateful for everyone who has,
(01:25:38):
you know, streamed the album and continues to share the
project because you when you experience it, you will feel
and know the benefit and the gift in it for you.
Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
M m M, oh my god, oh my god. Be
proof of what's possible. That's what we've been talking about.
And don't you feel don't you feel that vibration? Rid
and oh my god, you guys, I'm so excited. Don't
wait to be great? Do it now? Be proof of
(01:26:11):
what's possible. Stop putting off today? I mean, what does it?
Stop putting off tomorrow? What you can do today? Yeah,
if you're gonna wake up and get up, that's a
blessing in itself. Okay, you need to take every single
moment as a precious moment of life, because we got
(01:26:32):
I mean, we only promised the moment we're in. We
don't know what's next, so you don't want to hold
on to anything. Right, Let's go. Let's let's go and
do that action. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Handler.
Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
This has been a blessing. Oh my god, you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Thank you. This has been so much fun in this
This has been a whole vibr like this is a
vibe right here, and I.
Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Got to experience you and that is all good. She's
all that baggage and some eminem's on the side, y'all.
Can you tell? Can you tell? Check out her album?
Don't wait? Go get that vibration lifted up today, Get
your hope back, Get your hope back. Okay, start seeing
that light at the end of the very dark tunnel
(01:27:31):
that a lot of us are in right now. You
know where we say what you want? What you.
Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
There?
Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
You go, so be proof of what's possible. I'm raving
black lover Raven to talk, yo, Maven, that's having them alone.
Grab your award win Okay, just saying.
Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Look and so it is and so it.
Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Is all right, y'all. That's a rep now a bye.
Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Travel a Malone here, number one best selling author, full
time best selling author, executive producer, grammy considered artists and filmmaker.
And I was just interviewed by Raven the talk show
Maven and Honey, let me tell you something. It was
a powerful, deeply connected interview I have done a lot
(01:28:27):
of interviews in my life and in my career that
this was so special and really powerful, and we went
on to even talk beyond the interview because the energy
was so amazing. She gets to the heart of your story,
She's able to share it in such a beautifully compassionate way,
(01:28:48):
and the conversation just flows. So if you want to
learn more about hosting, podcasting, getting out there in the media,
or you're ready to become a guest on her show
Show Raven the Talk Show Maven, she's the one you
want to talk to.
Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
H