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August 13, 2025 18 mins
Doug Stephan — veteran broadcaster and proud dairy farmer (EastleighFarm.com) — breaks down the week’s top stories impacting family farms across the country. 

This week:
  • Why the term “crisis” may be overused in U.S. agriculture.
  • The USDA’s reorganization plan and what it means for farmers.
  • How the Big Beautiful Bill could affect depreciation and capital gains taxes for farmers selling to other qualified farmers.
  • The Skinny Farm Bill — and the $8 billion needed to fund programs left out of the Big Beautiful Bill.
  • And yes… could ice cream actually be good for your heart? One analyst found that people with Type 2 diabetes who ate small amounts of ice cream a couple times a week had a lower risk of cardiovascular disease.
It’s the latest ag news with a healthy scoop of Doug’s insight — and maybe a side of ice cream.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The American Family Farmer podcast, sponsored in part by Caldron,
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out at toploss dot com. This is Doug Stefan. You're
listening to the American Family Farmer as I bring you
up to date on some of the news affecting the
smaller family farmers all around the country. That's my Bailey Wick,

(00:21):
and I suspect it's yours as well. Plus there are
a lot of people listening in rural America that I
just want to know what's going on with the major
industry in their community. So the first part of the
program is dedicated to some of the news from this
past a week. Last week we spent a lot of
time talking about the immigration crisis, the immigration highway crisis.

(00:42):
I am loath to use the word crisis because it
is so overused and has lost its meaning. The situation
made worse by some of the things like what's in
the one big beautiful build. Let's talk about the USDA
and the reorganization plan that has been announced by Secretary

(01:04):
Brooke Rawlins. She calls it a complete reorganization of her department,
and when it's done, more than half of the agency's
workforce will be relocated to other locations across the country.
And at first blush that seems to make nothing but sense.
Why have all these people in Washington. The need is

(01:25):
out in the country, and so I at this point
think this is a good idea, she said, we want
to deliver services to our constituents. There was a five
minute video that was released, I think it was last week,
and in it she says, we are doing the key
services implementation outside Washington to ensure that USDA is located

(01:48):
closer to the people we serve. And then there was
a memo that went out. Number of employees within the
capital will be reduced from forty six hundred to about
two thousand. She emphasized in the announcement that this should
not be considered a workforce reduction. Ninety percent of the
agency's workforce is already located outside of the capital, so

(02:13):
let's move around. And so there's the situation where things
are closer. What does it mean to you as a farmer?
Ms Rawlins said the reorganization is carried out through a transparent,
common sense approach that preserves their critical health and public

(02:33):
safety services. However, officials decline to answer questions from reporters
regarding when and how the organization plan was put together.
One of these folkespeople declined to elaborate on who in
the federal government was involved in drafting the plan, So
you know, if they won't talk about it, that means

(02:55):
that it wasn't necessarily done with all of the most
conscious thinking. It was done at the White House with
the staff of the President. That's something you can probably
count on. There are a lot of key stakeholders in
this Members of the Agg Committee who are Democrats said
the decisions were made without the input from Congress, and

(03:17):
that for them is a no no. Says the Trumpers
failed to learn from previous relocation efforts, and so this
particular member, Angie Craig of Minnesota, said that the plan
is willfully risking the effectiveness of the agencies. Well, that's
political it certainly you can make that argument, but how

(03:41):
do you make it less? Actually, the reorganization has taken place,
so there's a lot of stuff afloat here. There are
those who think we're throwing out the baby with the
bath water. I don't know that that's necessarily I think
it's too early to make a judgment Frankly, see what happens.
It's under scrutiny, to be sure, and you can be

(04:03):
sure that there's going to be a lot of there's
going to be a lot of political wrangling. The plan
saves four billion dollars, and so the criticism is that
there was no consultation and no real consultant. So now
they've got a thirty day comment period going through the
month of August, and so okay, let's see what I

(04:28):
think it's again. Hello knock. There are a lot of
things to criticize, but and yeah, maybe there should have
been more input. But let's see how it gets implemented.
You know, you can ask the question, how are these
things going to be implemented? Looks like responsibility for implementing
those changes falls on Deputy Secretary Stephen Vaden, And if

(04:52):
you listen to him, he talks about how much it's
going to save. He just got onto the job last month,
so I don't know what he knows. I don't know
that much about him, Frankly, Senators, though actually I'm looking
at this. There were questions and criticism on both sides
of the aisle. So anyway, but Chairman John Boozman of

(05:13):
Arkansas praise Rowlands for the work she's done so far.
If you go around talk to people who have been
in the department, it's easy to criticize, as I said.
Robert Bonnie, who is the Undersecretary of Agriculture from twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty five, so he worked with Biden,

(05:36):
had a lot of USDA jobs during the Obama administration
as well. He says, implementing a plan of this magnitude
without input from farm groups or Congress as unusual. Well,
the farm groups, they'll listen, they'll be heard. You can
be sure they're not going to be quiet about it
if they don't like it. So that's as we begin

(05:57):
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Speaker 1 (07:18):
Doug Stephaniere on the American Family Farmer Program, news that
you can use thinking about some of the things that
we were talking about last week here on the program.
We had some information on the farmland, the new tax bill,
a big beautiful bill. My god, people are still talking
about this. I think it's good in terms of depreciation.

(07:39):
I think I said that last week. The Special farmland
Sales Deferral, this is included in the bill. This is
the big beautiful bill allows a landowner who sells to
a qualified farmer the ability to defer capital gains taxes
over a four year period. This is great. You want

(08:01):
an example of this, Say you sell a piece of
land for a million bucks and you owe two hundred
thousand dollars in capital gains. You can spread that over
four years. It doesn't mitigate what it could be what's
been referred to by Treasury officials as the lock in effect,
the current tax policy where landowner holds onto a piece

(08:23):
of land until they die and whoever inherits it gets
to pay the more expensive tax. So it settles it
in one sense while the farmer's alive, but it doesn't
solve the problem down the road for the inheritors. There's

(08:44):
another part of this bill, the Rural Opportunity Zone Fund,
which is in this tax bill. It's another provision that
might not affect your wallet, but could have a big
impact on rural America for a long time. It's the
expansion of the qualified Opportunity Zone and the creation of

(09:04):
a new qualified Rural Opportunity Fund, which is something I guess.
I just think that these are the types of things
that need to be You got to try him first
and see what happens. Don't criticize them until you see
how the thing works. Question comes on whether there's a

(09:26):
path to a new farm bill. The chairman of the
House Agg Committee says he hopes to pass Farm Bill
two point zero by the middle of next month. He
says his proposal is called the Skinny Farm Bill, requires
what eight billion dollars to fund the programs that were
not funded in the big beautiful bill. Many of the

(09:46):
provisions have broad bipartisan support, so that'll maybe help him
get it passed a little bit better. They had the
chance to put more stuff. I guess they decided the
snap things shouldn't and this is something I've talked about
a lot. Snap shouldn't be part of any bill that
enhances what's going on with the farmers. Meanwhile, the farm

(10:10):
labor vision all American Workforce from Trump includes no amnesty
for undocumented workers. So here we go. We talked about
this last week as a matter of fact, for a
good part of the news insert policymakers and what ICE

(10:31):
is doing. The media team acknowledging that has received questions
from reporters but doesn't respond. The visits to farm facilities
followed ICE raids. This was something the news media, for example,
in the LA area, the protests that were going on.
There was even some variety going on, and that has

(10:54):
happened elsewhere across America. Only thirty two percent, I don't
know if you knew this, or thirty two percent of
crop workers were born in the United States. Twenty six
percent are immigrants who have US citizenship authorized to work
in the country. So forty two percent of all farm
workers don't have any legal documentation. Now you can hold

(11:17):
that over the head of farmers. They knew that and
they should have done something about it. But the other
side of it is you don't throw the baby out
with the bathwater, and so what are we doing. Ms
Rollins has been asked about the efforts by the ICE
people to get at wholesale workers ruining crops in Oregon,

(11:38):
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There's no nobody's come up with an answer. They yet
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Back on the American Family Farmer ice cream fixes everything

(13:00):
you notice that, and now there are people who are
coming up with a theory that ice cream can actually
be healthy. Would you like the scoop? You see what
I did there? Huh? All right? Modern makeover of ice cream.
The reward system for so many of us is to

(13:20):
have some ice cream. I try to have a little
bit of ice cream almost every day. The more you consume,
is it more satisfying or less satisfying? There was an
analyst who looked at data from people with type two
diabetes a few years ago found those who ate small
amounts of ice cream a couple of times a week
had a lower risk of cardiovascular disease than those who

(13:44):
didn't need any ice cream. How about them apples? Right?
Can we prove it in the big listen? I think
it makes you feel better. And this especially for full fat, dairy,
full fat ice cream. The theory that came out of
the study suggests it might be less harmful and once believed,

(14:06):
especially when you're compared to animal fat and refined carbs.
So ice cream a joyful act of self care or
is it a slippery slope to burn out? Your brain
loves ice cream. It's like a drug addiction for some people.
I don't know. I hope it's not that bad with me,

(14:28):
but I know that one of my real weaknesses is
ice cream and my belly much of the years. I
don't have a big belly, but I have a little,
and it's from ice cream. I don't drink it out, smoke,
don't do drugs, and stay away from meat and all
the things that are not good. But I do the
ice cream thing. I'm a connoisseur. So there was a

(14:51):
neuroimaging study done from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
revealing some pretty surprising things. I'm going to talk about
that this week on the American on the Good Day
Health Show with doctor Canna might get some licks in
if you'll pardon the pun, with doctor Jack as well,
talking about how the brains of healthy adolescents. For example,

(15:13):
let's drink a milkshake and see what happens. People who
consumed ice cream this way had a reduced dopamine response
in reward related brain regions compared to those who didn't
eat it at all. In other words, their brains were
less excited by the treat. Their bodies loved it, their
brain it was a way of calming the brain down.

(15:36):
So I didn't you know, it didn't get you all
calm you down from being all worked up. So the
researchers and also some of the ice cream manufacturers, you
can sure imagine they're going to jump onto this reimagining
ice cream not just as an indulgence but as a
functional food. It was a review in the Food Research

(15:58):
International Journal. The story was about functional ice creams after
being fortified with probiotics for gut health, antioxidants for inflammation,
dietary fiber for metabolic support, and healthy fat to remain,
you know, to make the texture good. The celebration that

(16:23):
came out of this what they found in the benefits
once they really it depends on what's added into it, obviously,
but you can put a vitamin mineral boost in, Vitamin A,
vitamin D, vitamin B twelve, and the sugar that's in
is a mood booster, let's see here. And it's an
ice cream. You know, we talk about ice cream socials.

(16:46):
It is a social connection sharing ice cream with others.
I know in my family, my children and my grandchildren,
we love it, especially when they're here around the farm
with me because we have really good ice cream. We'll
walk around the farm and talk to the animals and
enjoy this next step to health and longevity. Anyway, I

(17:06):
don't know, is it a health halo. Most commercial ice
creams are ultra processed and they suck. Frankly, this stuff
you've got to go to the farm or find a
real place, a real dairy that is not making dysfunctional
ice cream, but the stuff that is engineered to be

(17:27):
the best. You know, some people sit down and eat
a pint at a time. I don't do that. But
in looking around for options, make sure that you're looking
for the best, and maybe you make it yourself on
your farm. That's even better. But don't demonize ice cream
because it's not the enemy. Over consumption isn't good for you.
But the super agers, the doctors who say eighty percent

(17:52):
of the time, don't worry about how much ice cream
you're eating, just enjoy it. So there. How about them apples,
and how about that Dutch apple IgE cream is popular
this time of the year. Doug Steffan with my thoughts
on ice cream.

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