September 17, 2025 • 18 mins
Host and American Family Farmer, Doug Stephan www.eastleighfarm.com shares why he created the American Family Farmer program before jumping into the news affecting family farmers, beginning with the news the USDA will no longer use tax payer dollars to fund solar panels on productive farm land, the need to support farmers and protect the food supply, and the latest updates on the Big Beautiful Bill and how it will affect American family farmers. Next up, to address rising land costs, the USDA is going to reform the FSA and the rural loan programs to better access credit. Lastly, Doug shares a postcard he recently received to his farm from an anonymous sender — using name calling tactics and false accusations against Doug’s political stance. Doug breaks the whole message down and openly addresses each of the sender’s points.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The American Family Farmer podcast sponsored in part by Caldron,
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out at toploss dot com. This is Doug Stefan an
announcement that I read about from the Secretary of Agriculture
of Brooke Rollins and the Deputy Secretary announcing that the
USDA will no longer fund using taxpayer dollars solar panels
(00:26):
on productive farmland or allows solar panels manufactured by foreign adversaries.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's the pressures.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
They refer to them as foreign advertises, and that means China,
and I'm on board with that. I think China is
an adversary. So I'm not going to use any of
that stuff in USDA projects. I know because I have.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't know if you call it a subsidized solar farm.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I have been for four years working on putting some
of the unproductive land on my farm to a good
use by being able to use a solar array that
is off the ground far enough that the cows can
still graze underneath it. And yes, there are some state
dollars involved, and some federal dollars involved, and some private
(01:09):
money involved.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Otherwise they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
One of the things that looking at the other side
of this, if it weren't for especially in New England
and the Northeast where farming has been made so difficult
by the government and most whether it's the state government
or the FEDS, government has made it very difficult for
farming to be productive and to be profitable. So a
(01:35):
lot of people, especially in New York State but around
the Northeast, have gone and they've taken their land. I
know one guy in New York had three hundred acres.
It was a dairy farm. He converted at all the
solar farm and now is making three hundred thousand plus
a year. And he said before that he wasn't making
thirty thousand dollars a year. But boy did the farmers
around him dislike that man. They're not for having it.
(01:59):
So some kind of a way for the government and
private industry to work together to make this work. But anyway,
I'm looking at a quote from the Secretary of Agriculture quote,
our prime farmland shouldn't be wasted and replaced with green
New Deal subsidized solar panels. So they're once again taking
a shot at the previous administration. And also what happened
(02:22):
during I think it started during the Obama administration, and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
There is a lot to be said.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I just I find I resent, frankly, the fact they
keep going back to Biden.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was never a fan.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But stop wasting your time and get to it. So
this is a good initiative. Just let it stand on
its own, I think we But what are you going
to do to encourage If you're not going to have
solar projects and try to help protect rural America and
the farm, what are you going to do? What do
you cut all of the various and sundry programs. There
(02:55):
is not a lot of support for the farm. I'm
looking around for support, and instead of support, you've got
raids going on here, there, and everywhere that's taking away.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
A lot of the viable workforce.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Granted, you're right when it comes to the whole idea
of being here legally. I support the efforts to make
sure that people who are working here and living here
are here legally. But the other side of that, you
don't throw out the baby with the bath water, And
that's what's happened here. In a lot of farms all
over the country. They say one of the largest barriers
(03:29):
to entry for new farmers is access to land. Yes,
they're correct there, subsidized solar farms have made it more difficult.
I don't know, maybe a little bit, yeah, right, using
taxpayer dollars to fund solar projects. They've got an argument
there that makes sense, frankly, But anyway, there's such puffery
(03:52):
that comes out of these people from the administration. I
see something in this. I'm looking at the press release.
Secretary of Rawlins understands that huge security is national security,
and presuming farmland for agricultural production is a.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Key component of protecting the food supply. Yep, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But don't get the way of allowing success. There's a
lot of common sense stuff that will safeguard the production,
the means of production, and the farmland. There is agreement
here as I look at the press release from the
House Aid Committee chairman mister Thompson from Pennsylvania, and you
(04:31):
expect the Republicans to go along with that, and that's
I have no problem with the press. See that is
the problem. Part of the big beautiful bill was this information.
So this is the bottom line for the USDA Rural Development,
Business and Industry Guaranteed loan programs are wind and solar
(04:54):
no longer available for the Rural Development Rural Energy for
America program. The REP program, a guaranteed loan program, will
continue to help ensure that American farmers and producers utilize
the various production of special quote unquote energy sources. They're
(05:16):
going to be able to get help for the right
size units to keep their facilities going, but not being able.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
To sell the product off farm.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So it's something that these guys are thinking about anyway,
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And that brings me back to the idea of policy.
The announcement that I was just referencing is part of
the USDA's press release on the Small Family Farm Policy Agenda,
(06:34):
and they say there are ten key points that are
going to be taken into consideration. One of them is
to offer streamlined and transparent tools and applications to help
farmers around the country. There's not specifics attached to any
of these. Number two is to ensure reliable access to credit.
That's a big problem obviously. Number three, make sure working
(06:56):
farmland remains for farming, and that's the subset from which
I took the information I just gave you on solar farming, etc.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Etc.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Number four and sure small farms can be passed on
to the next generation.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
While that's a huge thing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
If they get rid of the death tax, which is
what they're talking about, I haven't done it yet, but
that would be a big step in the right direction.
Focus on USDA programs for farmers and reform the labor pool.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That's something. But the.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Silly thing here is they're taking away the labor before
they've reformed.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The labor pool.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So they need to reform the labor pool then get
rid of the people that are not here properly. It's again,
this is kind.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Of like bootstrap stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Number seven on this list of the ten key points
enhance access to risk management and business planning tools. Yes,
having somebody that's an expert in the field or whatever
kind of bag you're in makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's what the USDA originally was set up to do.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let's see number eight ensure definitions of farm size reflect
modern day realities. And I'm not sure what that means.
Does that mean bigger is better? That's not what most
of the small farmers think, nor is it what.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Frankly I agree with.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
There should be room for all sizes, shapes and forms.
Number nine enhance the farmer access to educational resources very important.
Number ten make other small farm resources available. So apparently,
as I look at this press release, ms Rolins says
this is part of a broader USDA effort to launch
(08:39):
key policy initiatives with attainable and measurable goals that always
put America's farmers first. Focusing on small family farm prosperity
is the first policy pillar of the make Agricultural Great
Again in America, Maga Mac.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We've heard that before, we stand.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That, and so as part of all of this, the
this is something another sort of back to the ideas
that have been expressed, because this week you've probably seen
a lot of information about the screwworm and how somebody
got bitten by the man's okay, doesn't really affect humans
(09:21):
as much as it does cattle and livestock. So as
a result of that, the USDA has made sure livestock
imports from Mexico are stopped, and livestock from other countries
also supposedly is being stopped, although I still see a
lot of stuff coming in here from South America. Screwworm
started in Central America and the threat was around ten
(09:43):
years ago, and they have spent a lot of money,
hundreds of millions of dollars to try to get rid
of it at its source down New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So see it's looking at the screwworm. Excuse me to scare.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The hell out of you, knowing what it does to livestock,
whether it be cows, whether it be horses, whether it
be chickens, goats, pigs, ducks, you name it. If there's
a lesion on the animal's body and the fly lays
(10:18):
its eggs in that lesion, the screwworm will develop and
devour the flesh of whatever the animal is that it's
in the host animals, So something that has to be
paid close attention to. Also, to address rising land costs,
the USDA is going to reform they say, the FSA
(10:38):
and the rural loan programs to help you, the farmer,
American family farmer better access credit, betteral. Funding for productive
farmland will be incentivized, as we were talking about the
solar panel product of being dis incentivizes, that's the word
I think it is. And there are sixty five percent
(11:02):
of federal funds we'll go to producers instead of special interests. Man,
there's about time for that to become a reality because
during the Trump administration before and certainly with others, but
I think it was so blatant with Sonny Purdue as
the and Trump got that he knew he wasn't going
to put him back again because he was a horror
show and farmers disliked him, except for the people that
(11:23):
he made sure he took care of down to the
southeast in his home state of Georgia. The money that
got to farmers, billions of dollars to farmers who were
his friends during COVID that had no business going to them.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So they've at least addressed that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So Rollins is active and busy, and every week we'll
bring up to date on what some of the latest
policy changes are in our news here on the American
Family Farmer. I'm Doug Stephan and she's not. She could
be Elizabeth Miller. However, as a matter of fact, she is.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
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Back on the American family Farmer. My farm is in Framingham, Massachusetts.
Website Eastleigh Farm e A S T L E I
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Speaker 2 (13:05):
Easily received a postcard.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
From someone I do not know and someone who does
not identify himself. But I'm gonna read some of the information,
if that's what you want to call it, some of
the things that this fellow expressed. He called me a jackass.
As a matter of fact, the front of the postcard
has this on it. It's jackasses like you that have
(13:31):
destroyed our country, our family farms, in our way of life. Really, sir,
I don't believe much in calling people names because it
doesn't get anywhere. It kind of shows a lack of
education in a manner of speaking. Obviously, you don't really
know me. You don't know what my background is. You
don't know how I live my life. So okay, from that,
I turned the card over by the ways it is
(13:53):
sent to me at my high farm, so that people
go find stuff and send me.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
What they feel. You're a liberal.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You put mister Trump down for all the things he
has done to save America. All you do is think
about money and profit. You money hungry or immigrants are
changing our culture, breaking our laws, operations, taking over our country.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Trump is fixing that. No thanks to Democrats like you, sir.
You haven't got a clue as to what my politics are.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm not a big fan of the way Trump has
done things, and I've said that I am very supportive
of a lot of.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The things that he's done.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
But as I mentioned earlier in the program, in terms
of the labor on farms and the way that they
did it, they put the cart before the horse. So
find people that will take over for the illegals, train them,
make sure they're available to farmers so that we.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Don't lose crops.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like the lady who had the cherry farm out in
Washington State that went out of business, went bankrupt because
the ice people came in and rated all of our.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Help and she couldn't pick.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Seventy percent of her cherry crop went to rot, and
she didn't have enough money to pay her bills, and
therefore she declared bankruptcy. That's not the way to help
America's family farms at all. As a matter of fact,
that's stupid, and that policy, although well intentioned and the
right way to do it, I'm not going to say
the right way to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It isn't the right way to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The right way to do it is to suggest, as
I did a few minutes ago, that we find the
replacement help. You appeal to American workers, train them, and
have them do as much of the work as is possible.
If that's what the goal is, and that seems to
be what Trump wants to do. Okay, so you do
that first, then you get rid of the people. You
(15:41):
don't hurt the American farm by going in and rating
just you know, it's thuggery, frankly. And so anyway, I'm
a son of a bitch, according to this guy, a liberal,
dumbass and a jackass. And I guess that tells it
all kind of you know, I read this and I
kind of chuckle to myself, because, as I say, he
has no idea what my politics really are. Over the years,
(16:04):
I've kind of been on the radio for sixty years.
I've been telling stories about all kinds of things that
go on in our lives, and one of them is
my attitude towards those people who are the ruling class,
and I think that they have done a lot to
dumb down so referring to me as a dumbass. I'm
a product of a pretty good education because before I'd
(16:27):
say the mid seventies to beyond the eighties, mostly when
George Bush was president, when they cut back lots of
great programs in an education to fight the war in Iraq.
You see, that's once again, we all get along by
going along. And so the people that are going along
with Trump, that's fine if that works for you and
(16:50):
makes your life better. But to demonize people as both
sides have done.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
The Democrats have done it to the Republicans, and Repelicans
have done it to the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All you're doing, sir, and people like you are destroying
the fiber and the fabric of the country. You can say,
you can believe everything that Trump says and think, Yep,
that's what I'm with you all the way, one hundred percent,
all the way.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't want to be with anybody one hundred percent.
I want to think for myself.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I don't want to follow somebody as a leader who
tells me what to think, how to think, when to think.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I want to have my own mind developed and continue
to develop at whatever age we all are. And that
comes from having a healthy education system, which we do
not have at the moment, and that's responsible for a
lot of the problems that we have, frankly, and that
came about as a result of bad leadership way back
(17:46):
twenty thirty, forty fifty years ago. Or is it bad leadership?
Is it deliberate? Something for us to think about? Here,
those are my thoughts. I'm deug Stefan. This is the
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announcement that I read about from the Secretary of Agriculture
of Brooke Rollins and the Deputy Secretary announcing that the
USDA will no longer fund using taxpayer dollars solar panels
(00:26):
on productive farmland or allows solar panels manufactured by foreign adversaries.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's the pressures.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
They refer to them as foreign advertises, and that means China,
and I'm on board with that. I think China is
an adversary. So I'm not going to use any of
that stuff in USDA projects. I know because I have.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't know if you call it a subsidized solar farm.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I have been for four years working on putting some
of the unproductive land on my farm to a good
use by being able to use a solar array that
is off the ground far enough that the cows can
still graze underneath it. And yes, there are some state
dollars involved, and some federal dollars involved, and some private
(01:09):
money involved.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Otherwise they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
One of the things that looking at the other side
of this, if it weren't for especially in New England
and the Northeast where farming has been made so difficult
by the government and most whether it's the state government
or the FEDS, government has made it very difficult for
farming to be productive and to be profitable. So a
(01:35):
lot of people, especially in New York State but around
the Northeast, have gone and they've taken their land. I
know one guy in New York had three hundred acres.
It was a dairy farm. He converted at all the
solar farm and now is making three hundred thousand plus
a year. And he said before that he wasn't making
thirty thousand dollars a year. But boy did the farmers
around him dislike that man. They're not for having it.
(01:59):
So some kind of a way for the government and
private industry to work together to make this work. But anyway,
I'm looking at a quote from the Secretary of Agriculture quote,
our prime farmland shouldn't be wasted and replaced with green
New Deal subsidized solar panels. So they're once again taking
a shot at the previous administration. And also what happened
(02:22):
during I think it started during the Obama administration, and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
There is a lot to be said.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I just I find I resent, frankly, the fact they
keep going back to Biden.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was never a fan.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But stop wasting your time and get to it. So
this is a good initiative. Just let it stand on
its own, I think we But what are you going
to do to encourage If you're not going to have
solar projects and try to help protect rural America and
the farm, what are you going to do? What do
you cut all of the various and sundry programs. There
(02:55):
is not a lot of support for the farm. I'm
looking around for support, and instead of support, you've got
raids going on here, there, and everywhere that's taking away.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
A lot of the viable workforce.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Granted, you're right when it comes to the whole idea
of being here legally. I support the efforts to make
sure that people who are working here and living here
are here legally. But the other side of that, you
don't throw out the baby with the bath water, And
that's what's happened here. In a lot of farms all
over the country. They say one of the largest barriers
(03:29):
to entry for new farmers is access to land. Yes,
they're correct there, subsidized solar farms have made it more difficult.
I don't know, maybe a little bit, yeah, right, using
taxpayer dollars to fund solar projects. They've got an argument
there that makes sense, frankly, But anyway, there's such puffery
(03:52):
that comes out of these people from the administration. I
see something in this. I'm looking at the press release.
Secretary of Rawlins understands that huge security is national security,
and presuming farmland for agricultural production is a.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Key component of protecting the food supply. Yep, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But don't get the way of allowing success. There's a
lot of common sense stuff that will safeguard the production,
the means of production, and the farmland. There is agreement
here as I look at the press release from the
House Aid Committee chairman mister Thompson from Pennsylvania, and you
(04:31):
expect the Republicans to go along with that, and that's
I have no problem with the press. See that is
the problem. Part of the big beautiful bill was this information.
So this is the bottom line for the USDA Rural Development,
Business and Industry Guaranteed loan programs are wind and solar
(04:54):
no longer available for the Rural Development Rural Energy for
America program. The REP program, a guaranteed loan program, will
continue to help ensure that American farmers and producers utilize
the various production of special quote unquote energy sources. They're
(05:16):
going to be able to get help for the right
size units to keep their facilities going, but not being able.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
To sell the product off farm.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So it's something that these guys are thinking about anyway,
and so we continue in a matter of moments a
reminder about what's going on with the folks at Caltrin
toploss dot com the website. May I remind you to
go to the website this weekend to get the flash
sale the usual one hundred and twenty five dollars product line.
(05:48):
It's a bottle of Caltrin, a bottle of belly Blaster,
and a bottle of Detox Cleanse which flushes out toxins
and colon waste, reduces bloating, prepares your body for optimum
weight loss. And that's where Caldron comes in. All these
available at a great savings. Usually this group of three
with cash one hundred and twenty five dollars now one
(06:08):
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And that brings me back to the idea of policy.
The announcement that I was just referencing is part of
the USDA's press release on the Small Family Farm Policy Agenda,
(06:34):
and they say there are ten key points that are
going to be taken into consideration. One of them is
to offer streamlined and transparent tools and applications to help
farmers around the country. There's not specifics attached to any
of these. Number two is to ensure reliable access to credit.
That's a big problem obviously. Number three, make sure working
(06:56):
farmland remains for farming, and that's the subset from which
I took the information I just gave you on solar farming, etc.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Etc.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Number four and sure small farms can be passed on
to the next generation.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
While that's a huge thing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
If they get rid of the death tax, which is
what they're talking about, I haven't done it yet, but
that would be a big step in the right direction.
Focus on USDA programs for farmers and reform the labor pool.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That's something. But the.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Silly thing here is they're taking away the labor before
they've reformed.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The labor pool.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So they need to reform the labor pool then get
rid of the people that are not here properly. It's again,
this is kind.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Of like bootstrap stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Number seven on this list of the ten key points
enhance access to risk management and business planning tools. Yes,
having somebody that's an expert in the field or whatever
kind of bag you're in makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's what the USDA originally was set up to do.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let's see number eight ensure definitions of farm size reflect
modern day realities. And I'm not sure what that means.
Does that mean bigger is better? That's not what most
of the small farmers think, nor is it what.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Frankly I agree with.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
There should be room for all sizes, shapes and forms.
Number nine enhance the farmer access to educational resources very important.
Number ten make other small farm resources available. So apparently,
as I look at this press release, ms Rolins says
this is part of a broader USDA effort to launch
(08:39):
key policy initiatives with attainable and measurable goals that always
put America's farmers first. Focusing on small family farm prosperity
is the first policy pillar of the make Agricultural Great
Again in America, Maga Mac.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We've heard that before, we stand.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That, and so as part of all of this, the
this is something another sort of back to the ideas
that have been expressed, because this week you've probably seen
a lot of information about the screwworm and how somebody
got bitten by the man's okay, doesn't really affect humans
(09:21):
as much as it does cattle and livestock. So as
a result of that, the USDA has made sure livestock
imports from Mexico are stopped, and livestock from other countries
also supposedly is being stopped, although I still see a
lot of stuff coming in here from South America. Screwworm
started in Central America and the threat was around ten
(09:43):
years ago, and they have spent a lot of money,
hundreds of millions of dollars to try to get rid
of it at its source down New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So see it's looking at the screwworm. Excuse me to scare.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The hell out of you, knowing what it does to livestock,
whether it be cows, whether it be horses, whether it
be chickens, goats, pigs, ducks, you name it. If there's
a lesion on the animal's body and the fly lays
(10:18):
its eggs in that lesion, the screwworm will develop and
devour the flesh of whatever the animal is that it's
in the host animals, So something that has to be
paid close attention to. Also, to address rising land costs,
the USDA is going to reform they say, the FSA
(10:38):
and the rural loan programs to help you, the farmer,
American family farmer better access credit, betteral. Funding for productive
farmland will be incentivized, as we were talking about the
solar panel product of being dis incentivizes, that's the word
I think it is. And there are sixty five percent
(11:02):
of federal funds we'll go to producers instead of special interests. Man,
there's about time for that to become a reality because
during the Trump administration before and certainly with others, but
I think it was so blatant with Sonny Purdue as
the and Trump got that he knew he wasn't going
to put him back again because he was a horror
show and farmers disliked him, except for the people that
(11:23):
he made sure he took care of down to the
southeast in his home state of Georgia. The money that
got to farmers, billions of dollars to farmers who were
his friends during COVID that had no business going to them.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So they've at least addressed that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So Rollins is active and busy, and every week we'll
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Family Farmer. I'm Doug Stephan and she's not. She could
be Elizabeth Miller. However, as a matter of fact, she is.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
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Back on the American family Farmer. My farm is in Framingham, Massachusetts.
Website Eastleigh Farm e A S T L E I
G H. Easlelyfarm dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Easily received a postcard.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
From someone I do not know and someone who does
not identify himself. But I'm gonna read some of the information,
if that's what you want to call it, some of
the things that this fellow expressed. He called me a jackass.
As a matter of fact, the front of the postcard
has this on it. It's jackasses like you that have
(13:31):
destroyed our country, our family farms, in our way of life. Really, sir,
I don't believe much in calling people names because it
doesn't get anywhere. It kind of shows a lack of
education in a manner of speaking. Obviously, you don't really
know me. You don't know what my background is. You
don't know how I live my life. So okay, from that,
I turned the card over by the ways it is
(13:53):
sent to me at my high farm, so that people
go find stuff and send me.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
What they feel. You're a liberal.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You put mister Trump down for all the things he
has done to save America. All you do is think
about money and profit. You money hungry or immigrants are
changing our culture, breaking our laws, operations, taking over our country.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Trump is fixing that. No thanks to Democrats like you, sir.
You haven't got a clue as to what my politics are.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm not a big fan of the way Trump has
done things, and I've said that I am very supportive
of a lot of.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The things that he's done.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
But as I mentioned earlier in the program, in terms
of the labor on farms and the way that they
did it, they put the cart before the horse. So
find people that will take over for the illegals, train them,
make sure they're available to farmers so that we.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Don't lose crops.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like the lady who had the cherry farm out in
Washington State that went out of business, went bankrupt because
the ice people came in and rated all of our.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Help and she couldn't pick.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Seventy percent of her cherry crop went to rot, and
she didn't have enough money to pay her bills, and
therefore she declared bankruptcy. That's not the way to help
America's family farms at all. As a matter of fact,
that's stupid, and that policy, although well intentioned and the
right way to do it, I'm not going to say
the right way to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It isn't the right way to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The right way to do it is to suggest, as
I did a few minutes ago, that we find the
replacement help. You appeal to American workers, train them, and
have them do as much of the work as is possible.
If that's what the goal is, and that seems to
be what Trump wants to do. Okay, so you do
that first, then you get rid of the people. You
(15:41):
don't hurt the American farm by going in and rating
just you know, it's thuggery, frankly. And so anyway, I'm
a son of a bitch, according to this guy, a liberal,
dumbass and a jackass. And I guess that tells it
all kind of you know, I read this and I
kind of chuckle to myself, because, as I say, he
has no idea what my politics really are. Over the years,
(16:04):
I've kind of been on the radio for sixty years.
I've been telling stories about all kinds of things that
go on in our lives, and one of them is
my attitude towards those people who are the ruling class,
and I think that they have done a lot to
dumb down so referring to me as a dumbass. I'm
a product of a pretty good education because before I'd
(16:27):
say the mid seventies to beyond the eighties, mostly when
George Bush was president, when they cut back lots of
great programs in an education to fight the war in Iraq.
You see, that's once again, we all get along by
going along. And so the people that are going along
with Trump, that's fine if that works for you and
(16:50):
makes your life better. But to demonize people as both
sides have done.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
The Democrats have done it to the Republicans, and Repelicans
have done it to the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All you're doing, sir, and people like you are destroying
the fiber and the fabric of the country. You can say,
you can believe everything that Trump says and think, Yep,
that's what I'm with you all the way, one hundred percent,
all the way.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't want to be with anybody one hundred percent.
I want to think for myself.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I don't want to follow somebody as a leader who
tells me what to think, how to think, when to think.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I want to have my own mind developed and continue
to develop at whatever age we all are. And that
comes from having a healthy education system, which we do
not have at the moment, and that's responsible for a
lot of the problems that we have, frankly, and that
came about as a result of bad leadership way back
(17:46):
twenty thirty, forty fifty years ago. Or is it bad leadership?
Is it deliberate? Something for us to think about? Here,
those are my thoughts. I'm deug Stefan. This is the
American Family Farmer. This program was produced at Bob k
Sound and Recording. Please visit bobcasound dot com. The American
Family Farmer podcast sponsored in part by Caldron.
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