November 19, 2025 • 18 mins
Host and American Family Farmer, Doug Stephan www.eastleighfarm.com shares the biggest news affecting family farmers, starting off with the question if the ongoing bird flu will cause any troubles for Thanksgiving dinners across the country. On the topic of the choice of poultry for Thanksgiving, states with the highest rate of turkey production are Minnesota (#1) and North Carolina (#2), there’s also a big export business for turkeys which is bringing in billions of dollars to the states’ economy.
Doug also opines on the importance of farmers, and everything they do. Farmers know how to drive tracts and plant seed, they know how to raise cattle and dairy herds, etc., but what else? Farmers are also carpenters, mechanics, veterinarians, sales managers, marketing managers, and so on. If you’re a farmer you are resilient, you’re intelligent, you’re adaptive, you’re creative, and you own that right to be proud of being a farmer.
Website: AmericanFamilyFarmerShow.com
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Doug also opines on the importance of farmers, and everything they do. Farmers know how to drive tracts and plant seed, they know how to raise cattle and dairy herds, etc., but what else? Farmers are also carpenters, mechanics, veterinarians, sales managers, marketing managers, and so on. If you’re a farmer you are resilient, you’re intelligent, you’re adaptive, you’re creative, and you own that right to be proud of being a farmer.
Website: AmericanFamilyFarmerShow.com
Social Media: @GoodDayNetworks
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The American Family Farmer podcast, sponsored in part by Caldron,
The Safe, proven Way to Lose weight. Check it all
out at toploss dot com. I'm Doug Stephan. This is
the American Family Farmer. We come together every week. I
try to present some of the news that I think
is affecting the American Family Farmer. We talk with someone
(00:21):
who has an important cog in the wheel of American
family farming, and I underscore family and come up with
ideas that will help you, hopefully make your farm better,
especially given the situation where many of us, many of
you are in very precarious positions because of the malfeasance
and misoperational focus of the government. It's just it's amazing
(00:47):
what's going on. Frankly, I find it, and maybe amazing isn't.
It's tiring, it's tedious, and.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
For those of you who are on the brink, you
have our you have our prayers.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So let's talk about the three different kinds of meat.
As we go into the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, which is
around the corner, one wonders whether the bird flew would
impact holiday dinners as his sort of shop talk for
those who are in this business who depend on turkey production.
(01:25):
I have one of the fellows on the board with
me of the local Mass of Farm Bureau is a
poultry guy.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And he's in his thirties and he's.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Having a tough time because there are a lot of
other things going on with poultry and the biosecurity of
this kind of stuff that you'd wonder about.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The people in his community who know him are still.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Giving him a hard time. I mean, local government and
its relationship with farmers is something that is very troubling
over many parts of the country.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Anyway, did you.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Know the Minnesota top the country for turkey production.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I didn't know that, but it is.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
North Carolina comes in second. So let's see, thirty eight
thirty nine million turkeys have been raised this year in Minnesota.
Twenty nine million have been raised in North Carolina. So
that's pretty interesting. And so by the way, they're only
about four hundred farmers in Minnesota that are raising all
(02:29):
these turkeys, about six hundred of them in North Carolina.
Looks like ninety percent of the turkeys come not ninety
percent of the forty million turkeys are sold this time
of year, which is also kind of impactful when you
think about it. Fifteen percent of them come from Minnesota,
(02:52):
and we have a big export business, which is in
question because of what mister Trump is doing with the
with the beef and other things coming from other countries.
In Minnesota, the turkeys account for three and a half
billion dollars in wages and twelve billion dollars in the
(03:15):
state's economy. Wow, what kind of what the heck has happened.
That's why the bird flu is important up there and
what it did, not only to this point, but how
does it impact the future of raising turkeys. They've changed
a lot of the things that they've had to do,
the regulations and stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It has hit.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Minnesota this year, and we all know that it's tough
to kind of keep the migratory birds out of the picture.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
What are you going to do? You can't shoot them
all down.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But that's impacted what they've had up there. One of
the stats that I saw about Minnesota is that they've
lost one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Birds to bird flu just this year.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Anyway, the chicken prices this year have gone very high
because we have again the same influence the bird flu,
and as a result, the prices around the country during
the summer barbecue season were up about twenty percent from
(04:21):
last year. Now they are falling off a little bit,
and so I guess that's a good thing. And when
you think about it, the bird flu is not limited
to poultry species, because there have been other dairy cattles
certainly have been affected by it. I guess there have
been even some bears that have gotten it. But we're
concerned to hear about how it impacts your holiday dinner
(04:44):
with the price of turkeys and chickens and beef. And
speaking of beef, the news this week continuing a lot
of misinformation about beef, and most of it comes from
the president, frankly, and that's why he decided that we
ought to buy beef from Argentina so that we could
(05:06):
bring our beef prices down. This man has a wholesale
ignorance about farming, farmers, the price of beef. What has
happened in the past, Why having a good year? Yeah,
is it expensive to buy hamburg? Is it expensive to
buy beef? Yep, it is. It's in demand. So what
are we going to panalize the farmers for finally making
(05:28):
enough money to.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Exist?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's what this is His punishment and so you know,
I take a deep breath when I get onto looking
at stuff. Trump taking the social to his truth social media,
he said, cattle farmers I love don't understand the only
reason that they're doing so well for the first time
in decades is because I've put tariffs on cattle coming
(05:55):
into the United States. There was a fifty percent tariff
on the beef from Brazil. If it weren't for me,
he said, they'd be doing just as they've done in
the past twenty years. That's terrible. He's talking about the farmers.
The beef farmers be nice if they would understand that,
but they don't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And so there's Trump right there. It is.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's Trump checking in telling you how he's going to
fix the problem that American beef farmers have of making
money for the first time in years and years and years.
I was looking at something that the fellow who's in
charge of the Illinois Beef Association said, quote, we've been
in this two and a half year run of strong
(06:36):
cattle markets and the tariffs haven't been a factor at all.
So Trump says they were a factor. The people in
the business.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Say they aren't. So who are you believing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm not believing Trump, that's for sure. And I want to.
I want to believe in our government. I want to
believe in its leaders. But how can you with all
the chaos all around us?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
My god?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The American land Board, I said, we talk about different
types of meat. American Lamb Board keeping its missions strong
by announcing a couple of funding opportunities. Fifty thousand dollars
has been set aside for consumer promotional events and three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars for research projects. And so
anybody who's interested in the American lamb industry, you can
(07:23):
be in touch with the American Lamb Board. Go online
to American Landboard dot org. I believe to find out
what the chairman of the American land Boards guy named
Jeff Ebert. He's a lamb farmer. It's not in my
vocabulary a dairy farmer, cattle farmer, poultry farmer. I just
(07:47):
lamb farmers are into a group of their own. Frankly,
there have been a lot of folks trying to get
more farmers involved in lambs. I'll tell you the one
reason that I don't do it on my farm I
have goats and stuff, is because they don't. They're not
compatible in the pastors and I like to pasture my animals.
(08:07):
They're not compatible with cows because they kind of get.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Down to the roots and ruin.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Some land farmers say that's not really true, but my
experience is that they would chew right down and pull
up the grasp by the roots, and that's not helpful
at any rate. Applications for these two different To set
aside the consumer promotional fifty thousand bucks in the three
hundred and fifty for research, you have to apparently have
(08:37):
a fifty percent funding match, so you get the money
if you have somebody else or some other way, maybe
a bank or something that will help you. And it's
going on between now and May of next year. So
to participate again, you want to go to the American
Lamb Board and try to to get involved because there are,
(08:59):
as I a lot of younger people we've talked to
them here on this program who are trying to overcome
the hurdles for expansion of domestic sheep production. There's a
big problem with parasites, and that's something that you got
to get to the bottom of it because it has
ruined a lot of herds. Is that what you call
a lamb. It's a herd, right, I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Honestly, you can tell by listening to me.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't know that much about lambs, except I know
as a kid growing up, we had them on the
farm and they did what I was describing earlier to
the mostly we had cows, and so you saw what
the damage was to the fields, the pastures, and you
kind of said, Okay, we're not going to do that
at any rate. There's a lot of information again on
(09:46):
the American Lamb Board site American Lamboard dotrg talking about
people working on farms and who's going there and why
they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I think I.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
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Speaker 1 (13:02):
Back on the American family farmer, do you realize how
important you are, how important the farm family is farmers?
The farmer isn't just a farmer. I saw something recently
referred to as the hyphenated farmer, and so I thought
about it myself, and what do farmers do? They know
(13:25):
how to drive tractors and plant seed, They know how
to raise cattle, they know how to raise dairy herds.
But what else are you to do? You are a carpenter,
you're a mechanic, you're a veterinarian, you're a sales manager,
you're a marketing director. You get the idea. So take
(13:45):
pride in that your identity is solid. I think that
we just don't give ourselves enough credit, and it's time
we do. If you're a farmer, you're resilient, you're intelligent,
you're adaptive, you're creative. You own that right to be
(14:05):
proud of being a farmer. Few occupations require that you
know how to do all the things that you have
to do. Think about it. You know, maybe many of you,
some of you have training and degrees and you went
to school for it and certifications, etc.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Etc.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A lot of people had odd on the job training.
I didn't necessarily go to school, but I learned a
lot about cows as I grew up. I learned a
lot about tractors and equipment.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
As I grew up.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And believe me, and I'm sure that you understand when
I say this, it's the older you get and the
more you know, the better it is. Because as margins
are so tight, to the point where half of us
are not making any money at all, you need to
be creative when it comes to how you fix your tractors.
And I know there are many of these big companies
(14:53):
that don't want you to fixture on tractors and don't
know how they think they're going to help you survive.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But it's the same with seeds.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
A lot of the creative guys that I know have
grown corn over the years, and after the harvest they
save the corn seeds for themselves to replant the next year. Well,
a lot of people trying to take that freedom away
from you as well. Most of the farmers that I
know here in my neck of the woods are pretty
optimistic and what I like about maybe yeah, even today,
(15:23):
but as a kid growing up by the philosophy and
the fact that farmers were philosophers thinking about the mindset
of a person who wakes up every day to a
job where they have so many things that are not
in their control. The weather, for exact example, what the
customer really wants, taxes, tariffs, now, immigration policy, so all
(15:49):
of those things excuse me a part of what we
have to contend with. So to say that we are creative,
I think it's not a strong enough word, but I
don't know what other word to come up with. I
have but thinking about the two or three guys that
were my mainstay as a kid growing up and thinking, well,
(16:12):
they were very different men, all of them were very different,
but they had one thing in common, and that was me.
And they got a kick out of me and how
I sort of took to what they were doing. They
weren't teaching me, they weren't like lecturing me. But I
learned by doing, I learned by watching, I learned by
(16:33):
understanding how they thought. And you know, they they just
were the most wonderful beings. Frankly, like these guys that
I was around, Sam Mayo, Dan Phillips, the Hansen's, they
were all guys who didn't know how important they were.
I've tried to tell as many people as I could
(16:56):
to to sort of make myself understand, and when I
thought about it, how important they were to me. Some
of the women that I know were great writers, inspiration
for their husbands. There weren't as many women involved in
the outward work as there are today as a kid
growing up, but now there are a lot of women
(17:19):
who are just as rugged, just as strong, just as good,
just as smart.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It is not.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
The sex male female thing is, I think washed away appropriately.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So I think that people need to know that we
talked to.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
A garlic farmer here not long ago, and I was
thinking about one of the things that we talked about
off the air, how she wrote a song about garlic.
So anyway, value the hyphenated farm life that you live,
be creative, continue to acknowledge what you know and use it,
(17:54):
and hopefully we'll all live happily ever after.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's my thought.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
This is Doug Steph and you're listening to The American
Family Farmer.
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The American Family Farmer podcast, sponsored in part by Caldron,
The Safe, proven Way to Lose weight. Check it all
out at toploss dot com. I'm Doug Stephan. This is
the American Family Farmer. We come together every week. I
try to present some of the news that I think
is affecting the American Family Farmer. We talk with someone
(00:21):
who has an important cog in the wheel of American
family farming, and I underscore family and come up with
ideas that will help you, hopefully make your farm better,
especially given the situation where many of us, many of
you are in very precarious positions because of the malfeasance
and misoperational focus of the government. It's just it's amazing
(00:47):
what's going on. Frankly, I find it, and maybe amazing isn't.
It's tiring, it's tedious, and.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
For those of you who are on the brink, you
have our you have our prayers.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So let's talk about the three different kinds of meat.
As we go into the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, which is
around the corner, one wonders whether the bird flew would
impact holiday dinners as his sort of shop talk for
those who are in this business who depend on turkey production.
(01:25):
I have one of the fellows on the board with
me of the local Mass of Farm Bureau is a
poultry guy.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And he's in his thirties and he's.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Having a tough time because there are a lot of
other things going on with poultry and the biosecurity of
this kind of stuff that you'd wonder about.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The people in his community who know him are still.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Giving him a hard time. I mean, local government and
its relationship with farmers is something that is very troubling
over many parts of the country.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Anyway, did you.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Know the Minnesota top the country for turkey production.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I didn't know that, but it is.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
North Carolina comes in second. So let's see, thirty eight
thirty nine million turkeys have been raised this year in Minnesota.
Twenty nine million have been raised in North Carolina. So
that's pretty interesting. And so by the way, they're only
about four hundred farmers in Minnesota that are raising all
(02:29):
these turkeys, about six hundred of them in North Carolina.
Looks like ninety percent of the turkeys come not ninety
percent of the forty million turkeys are sold this time
of year, which is also kind of impactful when you
think about it. Fifteen percent of them come from Minnesota,
(02:52):
and we have a big export business, which is in
question because of what mister Trump is doing with the
with the beef and other things coming from other countries.
In Minnesota, the turkeys account for three and a half
billion dollars in wages and twelve billion dollars in the
(03:15):
state's economy. Wow, what kind of what the heck has happened.
That's why the bird flu is important up there and
what it did, not only to this point, but how
does it impact the future of raising turkeys. They've changed
a lot of the things that they've had to do,
the regulations and stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It has hit.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Minnesota this year, and we all know that it's tough
to kind of keep the migratory birds out of the picture.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
What are you going to do? You can't shoot them
all down.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But that's impacted what they've had up there. One of
the stats that I saw about Minnesota is that they've
lost one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Birds to bird flu just this year.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Anyway, the chicken prices this year have gone very high
because we have again the same influence the bird flu,
and as a result, the prices around the country during
the summer barbecue season were up about twenty percent from
(04:21):
last year. Now they are falling off a little bit,
and so I guess that's a good thing. And when
you think about it, the bird flu is not limited
to poultry species, because there have been other dairy cattles
certainly have been affected by it. I guess there have
been even some bears that have gotten it. But we're
concerned to hear about how it impacts your holiday dinner
(04:44):
with the price of turkeys and chickens and beef. And
speaking of beef, the news this week continuing a lot
of misinformation about beef, and most of it comes from
the president, frankly, and that's why he decided that we
ought to buy beef from Argentina so that we could
(05:06):
bring our beef prices down. This man has a wholesale
ignorance about farming, farmers, the price of beef. What has
happened in the past, Why having a good year? Yeah,
is it expensive to buy hamburg? Is it expensive to
buy beef? Yep, it is. It's in demand. So what
are we going to panalize the farmers for finally making
(05:28):
enough money to.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Exist?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's what this is His punishment and so you know,
I take a deep breath when I get onto looking
at stuff. Trump taking the social to his truth social media,
he said, cattle farmers I love don't understand the only
reason that they're doing so well for the first time
in decades is because I've put tariffs on cattle coming
(05:55):
into the United States. There was a fifty percent tariff
on the beef from Brazil. If it weren't for me,
he said, they'd be doing just as they've done in
the past twenty years. That's terrible. He's talking about the farmers.
The beef farmers be nice if they would understand that,
but they don't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And so there's Trump right there. It is.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's Trump checking in telling you how he's going to
fix the problem that American beef farmers have of making
money for the first time in years and years and years.
I was looking at something that the fellow who's in
charge of the Illinois Beef Association said, quote, we've been
in this two and a half year run of strong
(06:36):
cattle markets and the tariffs haven't been a factor at all.
So Trump says they were a factor. The people in
the business.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Say they aren't. So who are you believing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm not believing Trump, that's for sure. And I want to.
I want to believe in our government. I want to
believe in its leaders. But how can you with all
the chaos all around us?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
My god?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The American land Board, I said, we talk about different
types of meat. American Lamb Board keeping its missions strong
by announcing a couple of funding opportunities. Fifty thousand dollars
has been set aside for consumer promotional events and three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars for research projects. And so
anybody who's interested in the American lamb industry, you can
(07:23):
be in touch with the American Lamb Board. Go online
to American Landboard dot org. I believe to find out
what the chairman of the American land Boards guy named
Jeff Ebert. He's a lamb farmer. It's not in my
vocabulary a dairy farmer, cattle farmer, poultry farmer. I just
(07:47):
lamb farmers are into a group of their own. Frankly,
there have been a lot of folks trying to get
more farmers involved in lambs. I'll tell you the one
reason that I don't do it on my farm I
have goats and stuff, is because they don't. They're not
compatible in the pastors and I like to pasture my animals.
(08:07):
They're not compatible with cows because they kind of get.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Down to the roots and ruin.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Some land farmers say that's not really true, but my
experience is that they would chew right down and pull
up the grasp by the roots, and that's not helpful
at any rate. Applications for these two different To set
aside the consumer promotional fifty thousand bucks in the three
hundred and fifty for research, you have to apparently have
(08:37):
a fifty percent funding match, so you get the money
if you have somebody else or some other way, maybe
a bank or something that will help you. And it's
going on between now and May of next year. So
to participate again, you want to go to the American
Lamb Board and try to to get involved because there are,
(08:59):
as I a lot of younger people we've talked to
them here on this program who are trying to overcome
the hurdles for expansion of domestic sheep production. There's a
big problem with parasites, and that's something that you got
to get to the bottom of it because it has
ruined a lot of herds. Is that what you call
a lamb. It's a herd, right, I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Honestly, you can tell by listening to me.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't know that much about lambs, except I know
as a kid growing up, we had them on the
farm and they did what I was describing earlier to
the mostly we had cows, and so you saw what
the damage was to the fields, the pastures, and you
kind of said, Okay, we're not going to do that
at any rate. There's a lot of information again on
(09:46):
the American Lamb Board site American Lamboard dotrg talking about
people working on farms and who's going there and why
they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I think I.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Started this conversation a couple of weeks ago about the
problems of cancer on the farm. First though, speaking of
new information, how about the exclusive deal going on this
weekend for Caltrin at toploss dot com. As we close
to Thanksgiving, we get close to the time when people
(10:19):
are gaining weight and.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You don't want to gain weight.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
And with all the focus this week on the WGOVI
and the we're going to cut the price and everybody
can lose weight, do you know what happens to your body.
Have you studied it? Do you know what happens to
your body? If you lose a lot of weight at once.
Quickly your body kind of falls apart. There's no muscle,
the fat's gone, your skin is wrinkled. Now is it
(10:42):
better to lose the weight than not?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
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Back on the American family farmer, do you realize how
important you are, how important the farm family is farmers?
The farmer isn't just a farmer. I saw something recently
referred to as the hyphenated farmer, and so I thought
about it myself, and what do farmers do? They know
(13:25):
how to drive tractors and plant seed, They know how
to raise cattle, they know how to raise dairy herds.
But what else are you to do? You are a carpenter,
you're a mechanic, you're a veterinarian, you're a sales manager,
you're a marketing director. You get the idea. So take
(13:45):
pride in that your identity is solid. I think that
we just don't give ourselves enough credit, and it's time
we do. If you're a farmer, you're resilient, you're intelligent,
you're adaptive, you're creative. You own that right to be
(14:05):
proud of being a farmer. Few occupations require that you
know how to do all the things that you have
to do. Think about it. You know, maybe many of you,
some of you have training and degrees and you went
to school for it and certifications, etc.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Etc.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A lot of people had odd on the job training.
I didn't necessarily go to school, but I learned a
lot about cows as I grew up. I learned a
lot about tractors and equipment.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
As I grew up.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And believe me, and I'm sure that you understand when
I say this, it's the older you get and the
more you know, the better it is. Because as margins
are so tight, to the point where half of us
are not making any money at all, you need to
be creative when it comes to how you fix your tractors.
And I know there are many of these big companies
(14:53):
that don't want you to fixture on tractors and don't
know how they think they're going to help you survive.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But it's the same with seeds.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
A lot of the creative guys that I know have
grown corn over the years, and after the harvest they
save the corn seeds for themselves to replant the next year. Well,
a lot of people trying to take that freedom away
from you as well. Most of the farmers that I
know here in my neck of the woods are pretty
optimistic and what I like about maybe yeah, even today,
(15:23):
but as a kid growing up by the philosophy and
the fact that farmers were philosophers thinking about the mindset
of a person who wakes up every day to a
job where they have so many things that are not
in their control. The weather, for exact example, what the
customer really wants, taxes, tariffs, now, immigration policy, so all
(15:49):
of those things excuse me a part of what we
have to contend with. So to say that we are creative,
I think it's not a strong enough word, but I
don't know what other word to come up with. I
have but thinking about the two or three guys that
were my mainstay as a kid growing up and thinking, well,
(16:12):
they were very different men, all of them were very different,
but they had one thing in common, and that was me.
And they got a kick out of me and how
I sort of took to what they were doing. They
weren't teaching me, they weren't like lecturing me. But I
learned by doing, I learned by watching, I learned by
(16:33):
understanding how they thought. And you know, they they just
were the most wonderful beings. Frankly, like these guys that
I was around, Sam Mayo, Dan Phillips, the Hansen's, they
were all guys who didn't know how important they were.
I've tried to tell as many people as I could
(16:56):
to to sort of make myself understand, and when I
thought about it, how important they were to me. Some
of the women that I know were great writers, inspiration
for their husbands. There weren't as many women involved in
the outward work as there are today as a kid
growing up, but now there are a lot of women
(17:19):
who are just as rugged, just as strong, just as good,
just as smart.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It is not.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
The sex male female thing is, I think washed away appropriately.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So I think that people need to know that we
talked to.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
A garlic farmer here not long ago, and I was
thinking about one of the things that we talked about
off the air, how she wrote a song about garlic.
So anyway, value the hyphenated farm life that you live,
be creative, continue to acknowledge what you know and use it,
(17:54):
and hopefully we'll all live happily ever after.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's my thought.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
This is Doug Steph and you're listening to The American
Family Farmer.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
This program was produced at Bobksound and Recording. Please visit
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