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September 10, 2025 17 mins
Host and American Family Farmer, Doug Stephan www.eastleighfarm.com shares why he created the American Family Farmer program before jumping into the news affecting family farmers, beginning with a story from Florida and how farmers are plowing over perfectly good tomatoes as the tariff policies are costing prices to go down. 

The latest on how the I.C.E. raids are affecting small farmers. Then, the problem in most parts of the U.S. with attacks on cattle by wolves and coyotes.

Apparently, there are drones being used to deter the wolves in order to protect the cattle — and the drones are blasting AC/DC music to chase the wolves and coyotes away.

Next up, Doug thinks about the problems that keep coming up with getting fresh vegetables and having a source, and how many are thinking about starting their own vegetable garden.

Doug also shares information on the agri-hood he’s developing. 


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The American Family Farmer podcast, sponsored in part by Caldron,
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out at toploss dot com. I'm Doug Stephan. This is
the American Family Farmer when it comes to making decisions
about what to do on your farm. As we get
into the month of September, there are a lot of
different things that are happening. Harvesting is one of the

(00:21):
most exciting times.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Of the year for many of us.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
So let's see if we can find some things in
the news department they will help underscore what sort of
a season we've had.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Actually starting out with.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I usually like to have some good news as we
get started, but this is not necessarily good news.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Matter of fact, it's bad news.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
A story from Florida about how farmers are now plowing
over perfectly good tomatoes as the tariff policies from the
current president cause prices to.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Go down, down, down.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
This is happening all over the country, this sort of thing,
And I ask the question, perhaps this I should say
for my opine piece the end of the program, but
I ask those of you who have been so supportive
of Trump, how this is affecting you, what you're thinking
is at the moment about how tariffs and also the

(01:14):
immigration policy. Do you know that there are one point
two million fewer residents in this country and most of
us say good because many of them didn't belong.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Here for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
But the other side of that coin, the business side
of that coin. I point to a couple of things
that I have actually noted here too. For the cherry
lady out in Oregon, or I think she was in
Washington State, had seventy acres of cherry trees and lost
seventy percent of the crop because the immigration people came

(01:48):
in on the day she was to start harvesting, and
the ice people and it took most like three quarters
of the employees that she couldn't harvest her cherry crop.
Happening over and over and over again. And the next
episode here is with these tomatoes and.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Down in Florida.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I saw the story specifically that caught my attention to
the family that owned four thousand acres of tomato farms
across Florida. The crops have been mowed over, left to rot.
And this is not about growing conditions. This is about
the policies that, although good and we all thought well intentioned,

(02:32):
at the beginning. These policies are driving farmers out of
business and making us more dependent on food sources from
outside the country. So you almost wonder whose side Trump
is on the crackdown on migration. And I remember when
he started back in the winter, he said it would

(02:54):
squeeze farmers who rely.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
On migrants to pick produce.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
So, all right, you want to get rid of the
mine fagrants and the people who are here illegally, what.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Are you doing?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
My question to the president and of the people in office,
what are you doing to make sure that the people
who could do the work, who are able bodied Americans
are doing it? Are you shutting them off so they
have to go to work? Those questions have remained unanswered. Really, okay,
so we secure the borders, that's great.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
And then what.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Florida's acreage for tomato farms went from sixty one thousand
acres let's see here, down to twenty three thousand acres,
a drop of sixty three percent. Fifty percent of farm workers,
including skilled supervisors and operators undocumented. So maybe the onus

(03:50):
that isn't just on the Trump administration. When Trump came in,
he said he was going to do this So those
of you who rely on immigrant help, what have you
done to make sure that the people that are working
with you and for you are legal? I guess that's
the other side of this coin, and a question worth asking. Yeah,

(04:12):
the mass deportations seem confusing, but the end result, at
least this year far fewer pickers in the fields, and
the crops are going bad, and that's not good for America.
It's not good for Americans, not good for American farmers.
One of the farmers that I had read about was
talking about migrants leaving Florida. A lot of people, he said,

(04:35):
are afraid. Sometimes they come, sometimes they don't. I've noticed
that here in Massachusetts, where there are a lot of
Brazilians and a lot of people from Guatemala El Salvador.
And so the same situation exists up here. The harvest
is lost because it can't be harvested. And then we

(04:57):
deal with the other side of this, the tariffs. And
so what has happened with the tomato situation in America
has led to more Mexican suppliers to double and even
triple tomato exports into the United States. The market was
flooded with Mexican tomatoes, and so the prices went from

(05:22):
sixteen dollars a.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Box to four dollars a box.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And they need what in America ten eleven bucks a
box to break even. So there's a whole the question
comes up that needs to be answered. Who's on whose
side here?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And the end results.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
That we've talked about here in the American family farmer,
and I'm sure you've heard it talked about discussed on
other programs on radio and television as well. What these
policies are doing is making you pay much more money.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
The food costs are going up, cost of everything going up.
Cost to buy a car now with a terror.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
And so the question still remains about options. And so
what I have done here in my neck of the
woods is help people with the community support and agriculture.
The CSAs local farmers are able to do things that

(06:21):
may be better for you, even if they were dependent.
A lot of the family farmers aren't dependent on immigrant
to help. Depends on the size of the farm as
much as anything else. But I thought I dropped that
as an idea at least for people to think about.
All right, coming up a discussion of drones and what's
happening with cattle around the country because of drones. You'll

(06:45):
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people who are raising dairy cattle beef cattle. There has
been a problem in many parts of the country with
gray wolves, and depending on how more on the West

(08:54):
coast actually Oregon, California, there have been a tax on
howse at these locations. And I guess I'm thinking about
all the times that we've had not with wolves but coyotes.
Although we do have some wolves where I am, but
more coyotes. But those of you who are where there
are lots of wolves, remember a couple of years ago

(09:16):
when the wolves were there was some concern among environmentalists
that the wolf population was going to become extinct. So
they had a breeding program and they let them loose
in the wild. And so now what do we see.
We see them coming back to do harm to the

(09:39):
cattle population, and so what is this all about. There's
a series of drones that have started all over the
West coast, going around where cows are being grazing, blasting
music from ac DC.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
And so what does he wondered? Okay, what does that do? Well?
The wolves apparently don't like it.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And because of all of this, you know, if you
look around the country, we've got a lot of electric fences,
we've got a lot of dogs out in the west.
There's horseback riders that are looking to try to chase their.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Wolves away, and now there are drones.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
There have been non lethal efforts that haven't done well.
As a matter of fact, the last time I saw
a stat gray wolves last year killed eight hundred domesticated cattle,
which would be dairy cattle. And so the development of
the techniques for getting rid of the wolves by using drones.

(10:48):
The drones are monitoring them and then when they are
found to be in the areas where they're most active.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
There are ways.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Of the chase them around using the old traditional ways,
or chasing them with you know, on horses, or getting
in a jeep and chase them away. But apparently some
of these drones that they're using to monitor also have
loud speakers rigged with them and the noise freaks them out.

(11:20):
So there's music, there's gunshots, there's fireworks, there's voices, there's
a drone pilot who starts playing clips like Marriage Story, Thunderstruck,
screams from and then there's some electronic guitar licks that
you wouldn't want to listen to. So apparently it's had

(11:41):
some results, it's had some basic impact on it, and
we can only hope that it continues to be successful
because it is a real problem. That's the update on
what's going on with cattle around the country. Doug Stephan here,
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Speaker 1 (12:53):
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back on the American Family Farmer. My thoughts as I
think about my own gardening experience, how much fun it
is to grow things like potatoes and then I was
thinking about the problems that we keep talking about with

(13:15):
regard to getting fresh vegetables and having source if you will,
And I wonder how many of you last spring thought
about starting a vegetable garden.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
And I bring it up now.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Because I, at the end of the season start thinking
about the next season. I'm not a vegetable grower per se,
although I do have in my agrohood development, we have
a very large garden and it's aimed at providing a
CSA for all the people that belong to the HOA,
the homeowners' associations. It's part of the offering. It's part

(13:50):
of the attraction to bring people fresh vegetables every single day.
And it brought me back around to thinking about those
people who bring their children to the store and they
still think it's the source of all food.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Where do you get the food? Where does it come from?
Comes from the store? No, sorry, it does.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And it's a dangerous thing for us to keep in
our minds. I think I think it's a job that
we need to pay more attention to so that people
can understand why the food costs what it does, especially
if you're on a budget. And so many Americans are
the Consumer Price Index measuring the economy and inflation. We

(14:33):
find that this year alone, to this point, we're up
over three percent from where we were last year. That's
before the year even ends. Food prices have been hit hard.
They're up more than they're up about four and a
half percent since January, and if you look at December
to January, it doesn't look like things are getting any

(14:56):
better anytime soon. A matter of fact, the USDA predicts
under Trump, the prices of food will jump another four
percent before the end.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
So what are they doing to deal with skyrocketing costs
like eggs and fresh vegetables and fresh fruits. Fruits, Well,
there are a lot of people who even if they
live in the city. We've talked about urban gardening year,
start your own vegetable garden. One of the best times
of the year is now to think about creating your

(15:26):
garden next spring. It's important to approach this project in
the right way, especially if you're thinking about what it
costs you to buy food and this is a way
for you to save money.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Why not. You may not be able to grow everything.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You still have to go to the grocery store to
get things but growing your own certainly can help lower
your grocery bill, and it's good healthy activity.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's kind of a good hobby if you will. And
as I said, with.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
All of the increases in products like the things that
are easy to grow leafy greens, lettuce, microgreens, garlic, herbs,
growing them can literally help you reduce your food bills.
And so you know, even basle if you like that
for season, you can grow a couple of bas of
plants and they'll help you through the season, and maybe

(16:19):
even stuff that you can save for use during the wintertime.
I just want to encourage people to think about having
your own garden, that's all, and understanding and giving people
cause to think about where produce comes from, where you
get it. There are a lot of universities around the
country now that are trying to point people in the
direction of harvesting their own. I eat my own. Last night,

(16:45):
I had strictly vegetables, and they all came from my garden.
All this past month, everything I've eaten has come from
the garden. And it's kind of a fun thing actually
to look at what you're growing. It's great for your
children to understand how things grow and then when you
cook it and serve it, eat it, you know. It's

(17:05):
a great American pastime and a great American lesson and
the easiest things for you to consider. Let us spinach, kale, mustard, greens, beets, radishes,
things like that, cucumbers, summer squash, tomatoes, peppers, parsley, rosemary, oregano.
All these things are easy to grow, So have some

(17:28):
fun during the winter. Maybe start thinking about it now
and look for things that you can grow on your own,
even if it's just a little bit. All right, Hopefully
my thoughts are going to inspire you to do just that.
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