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December 31, 2025 • 41 mins

You're listening to American Ground Radio with Louis R. Avallone and Stephen Parr. This is the full show for December 30, 2025. 

0:30 We kick off today’s show with a major legal showdown as the U.S. Department of Justice takes aim at the state of Virginia over immigration and college tuition policy. We break down how Virginia law allows students without legal immigration status to qualify for discounted tuition if they attended Virginia schools, even as law-abiding U.S. citizens from states like West Virginia or North Carolina are forced to pay more. These benefits directly violate federal law, which prohibits states from offering post-secondary education benefits to illegal immigrants unless those same benefits are provided to all U.S. citizens on identical terms. It's a test of the Supremacy Clause and federal authority over immigration, and these policies normalize lawlessness one benefit at a time.

10:00 Plus, we cover the Top 3 Things You Need to Know.

  • US Attorney General Pam Bondi said this week that the DOJ has already indicted 98 people with fraud in Minnesota this year.
  • A federal judge has ruled that the Trump Administration does not have the authority to block funding to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
  • President Trump will become the first non-Israeli to be awarded the Israel Prize.

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13:00 We dig into the unraveling scandal surrounding fraudulent daycare operations in Minnesota. As scrutiny intensifies, the focus turns to empty daycare centers—previously exposed by independent reporting— that are now suddenly filled with children, raising serious questions about timing and credibility.

16:00 The American Mamas Teri Netterville and Kimberly Burleson don’t hold back on this one. They take on the question of why it suddenly feels like everyone has a disability—and whether it’s about real need or working the system. While acknowledging legitimate conditions that truly require accommodations, they zero in on what they see as a disturbing trend: elite college students claiming disability status for special treatment, extra time, exemptions, and advantages.

This isn’t about compassion anymore—it’s about entitlement. A culture that rewards victimhood, hands out loopholes, and teaches young people that being “broken” is a badge of honor. Comparing today’s mindset to the grit and pride of earlier generations, the Mamas warn that intelligence without ethics is dangerous, and a society that incentivizes weakness shouldn’t be surprised when responsibility, character, and resilience disappear.

If you'd like to ask our American Mamas a question, go to our website, AmericanGroundRadio.com/mamas and click on the Ask the Mamas button.

23:00 Protests are breaking out across multiple cities in Iran as the country's economy spirals. The national currency has collapsed to record lows against the U.S. dollar, inflation has surged past 40 percent, and everyday life is becoming increasingly unlivable for ordinary Iranians.

24:30 Plus, we give director and actor Steven Grayhm a call. His film Sheepdog, is set to release nationwide on January 16, centered on the unseen battles of PTSD and the long-term cost of military service. Grayhm spent years traveling the country, listening to veterans, Gold Star families, and mental-health professionals, determined to tell their stories without political spin or Hollywood gloss. The result, he says, is a “love letter” to those who wore the uniform and the families who carried the burden alongside them.

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32:30 According to newly revealed information, more than $5 billion in HUD rental assistance payments during the final year of the Biden administration were flagged as questionable or improper—an eye-popping figure that immediately raises red flags. According to newly revealed information, more than $5 billion in HUD rental assistance payments during the final year of the Biden administration were flagged as questionable or impr

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Speaker 5 (01:01):
The Trump administration is going after Virginia. Now, okay, well,
not the Trump administration in particular. Specifically, the US Department
of Justice is going after Virginia, arguing that the state
is violating federal immigration law by offering in state college

(01:24):
tuition and taxpayer funded financial aid to illegal immigrants, while
at the same time they are charging higher tuition, higher
tuition to United States citizens who live in other states
other than Virginia.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, that they are.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
That is shameful. That is absolutely and it's illegal.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
It is illegal. But Virginia is not the only state
that's doing it. There are several states that are doing
There are a lot of states that we're doing it.
Some red states realized, oh wait, we're doing this. We
need to cut back on this. I believe Texas made
it illegal to do that in the state within the
last couple of years. But you do have the states
like Virginia that are doing this, that are indeed saying

(02:07):
illegal aliens who live in the state of Virginia get
in state tuition to colleges and universities, whereas if you
are in West Virginia and you want to come to UVA, no,
you're gonna have to pay out of state tuition, even though
West Virginians are American citizens. So the state of Virginia
has been giving special favors, special benefits to people who

(02:28):
came into the country illegally, and American citizens aren't getting
those favors.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Okay, So let's just a lot of folks might say,
what are y'all talking about here.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well, we're talking about in state tuition versus out states. No.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
No, let me let me just strip this down to
plain English.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Virginia law allows students without lawful immigration status. In other words,
illegal immigrants to qualify for discounted in state tuition if
they attended Virginia schools they meet certain residency requirements, even
though American citizens from North Carolina or Tennessee or any

(03:07):
other state.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Hawaii, Washington will have.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
To pay more than an illegal immigrant who is residing
in Virginia. So if an American kid whose parents pay
taxes followed the law, played by the rules, an American
kid doesn't live in Virginia pays out of state tuition,

(03:33):
but someone who is in this country illegally pays less
than that kid than that American kid, I mean, federal
law is crystal clear on this point. States may not
offer post secondary education benefits to illegal immigrants unless those
exact benefits are offered to all United States citizens on

(03:57):
identical terms. Identical that means the same rules, that means
the same price, that means the same eligibility. And Virginia
didn't do that, and the Department of Justice is right
to call it out. And this case is more than
just about tuition. It's about whether the supremacy Clause of
the Constitution still means what it says. Because immigration, I

(04:22):
know for the liberals they may be surprised by this,
or those on the left. Immigration is a federal responsibility.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
It is.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
But the thing is is that again, Virginia's not alone.
About half the states in the country have the same rules.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
They're about to change them.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
You're in high school in our state, then you get
to go get in state tuition even though you're not
a legal residence.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
But states don't get to rewrite the rules.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
And it's immoral. It is immoral to give special benefits
to people who have violated the law over American citizens.
It is immoral to say someone from another country gets
to come and break the law in our country, and
we're going to give them special benefits that we won't
give to law abiding American citizens. That is immoral and

(05:10):
it goes against the whole reason why governments are founded.
Governments are formed according to the Declaration of Independence. Governments
are formed to secure the rights of the people who
formed the government. That's us, We're the ones who created
the government. The government's job is to secure our rights.
It is not to secure the rights of the people
who didn't form the government. And illegal aliens don't get

(05:33):
to vote in our elections. They have no legal right
to be here in the first place. They are not
the ones who form the government. Our government's job is
not to secure their rights. And you can say, well
I don't believe that, Fine, then you're not a patriot.
Because America is the first country that was founded on
an idea, and that idea can be seen in the
second sense of the Decoration of Independence. And if you
want to say I love America, I'm a patriot. A

(05:54):
definition of a patriot someone who loves their country. Well,
if you love the United States of America, you claim
to be a patriot, then you have to love the
idea of America. You have to love every single word
in the Decoration of Independence. The seconds is the Decoration
of Independence, because that's where you can see the idea
that created this country. If you don't love that idea,
you are not a patriot. By definition.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
This is how lawlessness becomes normalized, one benefit at a time,
for you know, tuition and licenses like drivers' licenses, right
professional certifications, housing preferences, then voting access.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
You know, I mean each step along the way.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Those that don't love this country, you know, they tell us, oh, well,
this is just practical for them. You know, they're here illegally,
but they need a driver's license, or they're here illegally.
You know, they need to be able to practice their profession.
You know that this is humane or this is inevitable.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
But each step, each step.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Along the way, where you're constantly breaking the law over
and over and over, right, it erodes the disc distinction
between being here legally and illegal, and.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
You get to justify more illegal behavior because oh, well, look,
they came here illegally, where they're here. Now we have
to take care of them. Let's let them have some
Medicare funds, Let's let them have some welfare funds, because
they're here. I mean, we got to take care of them. No, no, no,
we don't have to keep them here. They can go home.
And so far, by the way, the Trump the first administration,

(07:26):
has really been been pushing this. Trump is the first
administration in the United States history that's really been pushing this.
And in his first year in office, one point nine
million illegal immigrants went Okay, I'm gonna go home. One
point nine million. And that's on top of the six
hundred and I think six hundred and fifty thousand illegal

(07:47):
immigrants that have been forcefully deported by the Trump administration.
So more than two million illegal immigrants have left the
country this year. For the first time, we're seeing anything
close to those numbers. That's a good thing. That's what
happens when you stop saying, Okay, well, they're here, so
we have to give them special benefits that they wouldn't
otherwise be eligible for. They've already broken one like us.

(08:09):
We should just let them break other ones.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
But look, if the Department of Justice prevails here, and
I think fully the law is on its side completely,
this ruling will threaten similar tuition policies in more than
twenty states.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah, and I think that's good.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
It's absolutely good, and it's moral clarity. This is moral clarity.
The government of the United States of America should put
Americans first. The government of the State of Virginia, yes,
they should put Virginians first, but they should also put
West Virginians above Guatemalans.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
And the states are going to those twenty states or so,
they're going to face a choice. They have to either
offer the identical benefits or lose to US citizens, or
stop offering special benefits to illegal immigrants. And what they
won't be allowed to do anymore is is give preference
to lawbreakers, to unlowt right to those who are in

(09:02):
our country.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
And that's what you're doing. You are giving special benefit.
It's like somebody goes in and the shops lift from
a store and you're like, oh, well, here have some
free gas. That's that's ridiculous. Why is it if you
break one law you get special benefits when people who
follow the law don't. That's what the American people are
tired of. Let's get to the top, Fico things you
need before tomorrow. We're singing to noble before tomorrow. US

(09:32):
Attorney General Pan Bondi said this week that the Department
of Justice has already indicted ninety eight people with fraud
in Minnesota this year. Eighty five of those suspects were
some of all the immigrants, and so far sixty have
already been found guilty in a court. Bondi said more
indictments for coming as the FBI is expanding insvestigation into
welfare fraud in Minnesota, posting on Twitter quote, we have
more prosecutions coming. Buckle up, lawmakers. Fraud among some all

(09:55):
the immigrants has made big news this week after Independent
reporter Nick Shirley posted a lengthy video showing numerous daycares
run by Somali immigrants in Minneapolis that were receiving state
well for funds but did not appear to have any
children actually using the daycare facilities.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
I'm telling you, I believe this is going all the
way to the top to the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And you know what. This scam, this daycare scam appears
to be happening in other places. Some other independent reporters
have been posting videos in Ohio and in Washington State.
This appears to be happening in other places too. Second
thing you need from tomorrow, federal judge is ruled that
the Trump administration does not have the authority to block
funding to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. US Attorney Amy

(10:38):
Berman ruled that the bureau must be allowed to continue
to receive funding through the Federal Reserve, even though it's
operating at a loss. The Trump administration has made it
a priority to end the CFPB, which was created by
the Democrats in the wake of the two thousand and
eight economic crash. By law, the CFPB is funded by
quote combined earnings from the Federal Reserve However, the Fed's
been operating a loss since at least twenty eleven, which

(11:00):
means there are technically no earnings available to fund the bureau.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I think we once again have a judge who's putting
politics above the rule of law, and I think that's
dangerous to our country. And the third thing you needed
before in while the President Trump will become the first
non Israeli person to be awarded the Israel Prize. The
Israel Prize is Israel's highest civilian award. It's given for
exceptional contributions to the nation, and President Trump will be

(11:26):
given the prize in a new category, the Israel Prize
for Peace. Benjamin Netanyah, who announced that Trump would be
given the honor yesterday in a joint press conference with
the President from the White House. Netnyah, who said, I
have to say that this reflects the overwhelming, overwhelming sentiment
of Israelis across the spectrum.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Well, this will give folks like Candice Owens and Tucker
Carlson great fodder.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Well, Donald Trump is more popular in Israel than even
Benjamin Netanyah, who is and for good reason.

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Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, this cover up in Minnesota just continues.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
You know, I don't even think it's a cover up.
I don't think they bothered to cover it up. They
just didn't look into it.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
But you know now now, these Somalis, Yeah, and that's
what they are.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I'm not there's Smali immigrants.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Painting too broad of a brush here.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
And I don't think the majority of them are illegal immigrants.
They were brought here through a legal process set up
under Barack Obama. But the vast majority of them are
Somali immigrants.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
No, no, no, I get it.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
But Now what they're doing is now that the spotlight
is on these daycare centers in Minneapolis and Saint Paul.
Now they're bringing in children, right, and they're saying one
were there are plenty of children here. What are you
talking about? This is fake news. But this is all
racist news because you all don't like the color of

(13:41):
our Somali skin.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
But then they go and interview people who live in
the same neighborhood and say, hey, look, they got kids there,
and the people say.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
I've never seen a child there before today. And there
are multiple eyewitnesses that live in that area, okay, in
that neighborhood that say, we thought these buildings had been
a end.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And here's kind of what's interesting. So the Minnesota the
woman in Minnesota who's actually responsible for having investigated all
of these she says, look, this video that was done
that showed no kids at all these these daycares. Well,
that was done during the Christmas break, of course they
were closed. And then today you see video with the

(14:21):
kids at the daycares. Now, wait a minute, which one
is it? No, the video was taken during the winter
break when the daycares were closed, or they're kids of
the daycare because we're still in the middle of the
winter break. If they were closed the day before Christmas,
why wouldn't they be closed the day before New Year's
But just think, how how does that make any sense? Look,
this is one of those don't peel my leg and

(14:42):
tell me that it's raining.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
But just think how ridiculously stupid these folks must think
Americans are.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
They think we're dumb?

Speaker 5 (14:50):
And I can just imagine they all got together, all
these Somali folks part of this scam. Yeah, And I
guess they got together in these daycares because daycare centers.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
They're all doing the exact same meat well, and they're
the same roots operandi.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
And there's plenty of room because there aren't any kids,
so they have plenty of room for them to meet.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
And again, this is happening apparently in multiple states, not
just Minneapolis, but wherever you have a large group of
Smali immigrants. They're doing these scams apparently.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
But they got all together and they go, you know, uh,
we've got a spotlight on us.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Where are the kids? Well, I tell you what, do
you know? Some kids? Yes, I know some you know
some kids I know.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I tell you what tomorrow, let's bring all the kids
that we know to the daycare and then we'll show
a video. We'll film it and we'll post on social media,
and then we'll show people that I don't know what
you're talking about. There were kids here all along.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
But the reason they think we're dumb is because they've
been getting away with a stupid scam for years. Well,
they'd be dumb not to think we're dumb. We got
a question of for American mama's. Dear mamas, why do
so many young people these days seem to have some
kind of disability.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Well, let's ask our American mamas, Palma, she said, joining.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Us now our American mama's tern Ediville and kimer Lee Burlison.
My daughter does have tourettes, but she tries to hide it.
When she was taking her ACT we did get some exceptions.
We made sure they knew that she had tourettes, and
that created she got some exceptions when she got to
take the test. But the reason we did that was
so that her outbursts wouldn't affect other students, not so

(16:31):
that she necessarily would get an advantage from it. But
we didn't want her messing up other people taking the
act if she happened to have a bunch of outbursts
and a bunch of tics going on. But she's commented
it that it seems like pretty much everyone she knows says, oh,
I've got a tick disorder when they don't right.

Speaker 7 (16:49):
Well that, I mean, what she has sounds like it
truly is something that she would need some exceptions for it.
But I watched this news piece and it was talking
about Ivy League students and how their abusing the disability status. Okay,
so I'm talking to Harvard Brown Stanford, but they were

(17:09):
saying that thirty eight percent of Stanford students claim to
have a disability eight thirty eight percent. And with this status,
if you get this disability status, that means that you
have exemptions from being called on by the professor. You
can bring your mom to class, you can have extended
time for exams, you can have access to distraction free environments,

(17:31):
and you can use otherwise prohibited technology.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I'm pretty sure if I had brought my mom to class,
that would have given me a tick disorder. I think absolutely.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
I just feel like we are creating this weak generation.
They're so weak that it feels like they're looking for
hand and that's not everybody. There's always exception.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
But you got thirty eight percent saying they've got some
kind of a disability and they get special benefit for
having the disability.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
Do they share that on their resume later? You know,
when they're trying to get a job, do they share
that or is it suddenly gone whenever they're looking for
a job. You know, I'm so grossed out by this
kind of thinking. This week, hand me, give me, lift me.
It's always what others can do for them, and never

(18:19):
what they can do for themselves.

Speaker 8 (18:20):
Probably it's probably for them more like you know how
millionaires find the little tax breaks, the loopholes.

Speaker 9 (18:27):
Yeah, get ahead.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
It's like a loophole.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
It's like a loophole.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
It's like they feel like they are working the system. Well,
if y'allre going to have this in place, then I'm
going to say I have ADHD, which.

Speaker 9 (18:37):
Is going to let me have thirty minutes longer on
the test.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
They've figured it out a way, I think if every
student knew that.

Speaker 9 (18:44):
But you have to have a medical I think you
have to have the medical excuse. You have to have
a doctor that actually.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Says that you have them, that's not hard to find.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
So I really think that's what this is more about
than the coming week.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
So that's a whole different way to look at it.
But I think about our grandparents' generation, the greatest generation.
Do you think they didn't even want to get on welfare?
So you're saying, if you create it, then I'm going
to take it.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
My grandfather, my grandfather had polio as a child and
walked with olymp his entire life. He served in World
War Two, of course he did when he had a limp.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
Yes, I mean it was the greatest. There was so
much more pride.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah, there was pride in yourself and pride in how
you presented yourself. And that's what I'm not seeing anymore.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Terry.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
You my favorite phrase you've ever said, And Man, I
quote this to people all the time. Victimhood is their beauty, Markt. Yeah.
Is that part of what this is that they think
that what makes themselves special is a disability of some kinds?

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Well, yeah, because they've learned that that's what society has.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Taught them in the last eight years.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
Whereas the greatest generation, our maternal grandmother lost her husband
when she was thirty nine, she had four children. She
refused to use government fines and got three jobs. You know,
she made their clothes. It was like a pride thing.
She wanted her children to learn that. No, no, no,
you figure out a way with four little kids. Yeah,
this generation, they've been taught, Hey, the bigger your victim story,

(20:14):
the better chances you'll get to get on this show
to win that you know, America, not American Idol, but
the other one or like that has to be part
of the narrative because when the show, that brings in
the numbers.

Speaker 9 (20:24):
So that's what they've been taught. It's just the wrong way.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
It is the wrong way. I saw yesterday, reel this
this lady. She was in the parking lot. She found
a receipt on the ground at Walmart and it hadn't
been drawn through. And she went back into the store.
She got everything that was on that list, and then
she got through free showing her receipt of all those things,
and she said, look what I got. God is so good.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh no, God doesn't teach you to steal.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Absolutely, But she in her mind felt like, hey, this
is the system that exists. This I got a freebie
and then the comments were like, that's what well, I mean,
that's what they get. They did didn't go through it before.
I thought, what is wrong?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (21:05):
I know.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I think the thing that's most disturbing to me about
this is that these are supposed to be the brightest
of this entire generation. If you're at Harvard, if you're
up Brown, if you're at Columbia, you're supposed to be
the cream of the crop.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
Unless you're connected. You know they are. They have to
be intelligent, they have to be highly intelligent. But a
lot of it we've learned who their parents are. There's
a lot of You have to be connected.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
But intelligence without ethics is dangerous. It is. If you
like to ask our American Mama is a question, go
to our website americanmoun Radar dot com slash mamas and
click on the ask of the Mama's button. Terry Netteville
can really bru listen. Thank you so much, Thank you
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Speaker 5 (22:30):
Well, apparently there are protests spreading throughout several Iranian cities.
The national currency is collapsing. I've seen this yes to
a record low against the United States dollar. Inflation in
Iran has soared to over forty percent.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
I mean, what is going on there?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, part of it is you've had a lot of
problems with that. They've already had problems because of international
sanctions that Donald Trump was putting on them. Of course
the war against Israel did not go well for Iran.
Those have been problems, but there's also a massive drought
going on Iran. They've got water problems in Iran, They've

(23:13):
got and and again it's it's a it's a totalitarian dictatorship,
which means it's not going to be a well run
city in a well run state anyway. And all of
these are coming to the to the four But it's
thousands of people that have taken to the streets. Iran's
government has put down much larger demonstrations in the past.

(23:36):
Now they've done it violently.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
They've been using tear gas and batons right now.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, well, they were using bullets and tanks before. So
they've been able to put down bigger revolts in the
past and and perhaps they'll be able to do that
again this time. You know. It's not it's not something
that we wish on the people of Iran, but their
government is is pretty ruthless, especially to their own citizens. Yeah,

(24:02):
all right, I wanted to tell you what, let's switch
gears because I wanted to talk to a gentleman. Who
oh man, there's a new movie coming out in January
and it's called Sheep Dog. And I thought maybe this
was a film that we could start talking about, and
I wanted to call. I wanted to call the director
of the movie, Stephen Graham. He's not just the director,

(24:25):
he's also the writer of the movie, and he's the
producer of the movie, and he's the lead actor. That's
called Sheep Sheep Dog. Okay, and this is a pretty
powerful film that's coming out in January. So joining us
now on American Ground Radio Steven Graham. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Hey, thank you, thank you, Steven, thank you so much
for having me.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Okay, so I spent you guys were kind enough to
send us an advanced copy of the film. The film's
coming out, Sheep Dogs coming out in January? Is it
January sixteenth? Is that the right day?

Speaker 3 (24:51):
That is correct? Nationwide in theaters January sixteenth.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Okay, so we got to watch an early release of it.
We got to see it earlier and demand. This is
a powerful film. It's about PTSD. You've been working on
this project for a long time. I saw an interview
with you with Larry King in twenty thirteen about this.
That's correct, that's that you know twelve years ago. Why

(25:19):
this must be a labor of love for you?

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Then?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Oh yeah, I mean, look, nobody.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
The journey to the silver screen for Sheep Dog has
been fourteen years.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
And the journey began in twenty eleven when my car
broke down just three hours north of Los Angeles and
the local to truck driver who picks me up during
that three hour drive was the life changing moment in
my life where he opened up to me, a complete stranger,
about his military service, and you know, all the things

(25:51):
that he was going through in his life that were
tethered to, you know, his service and sacrifice. And when
he got me back home, so you know, I was
left with this feeling, this call to action, and this
sense of responsibility to find out if there was more
folks like him, And that summer of twenty eleven, I
embarked on a nationwide road trip to uncover that truth,

(26:14):
and sure enough I quickly learned that there was indeed
many more men and women like this tow truck driver.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Sheep dog is my thank you, is my love letter to.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
The folks who've put their uniform onto the families who
have also are a very big part of that service
and sacrifice, the gold Star families, the mental health professionals
that are on our front lines, that are our unsung heroes.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
And what was this here we are?

Speaker 5 (26:43):
What was the story that stuck out on that three
hour tow truck tow truck drive to Los Angeles? I mean,
what was that story that stayed with you?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
So it began with it.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It began with him opening up about the challenges of
being a father of three, samarital issues, he was having,
his financial hardship, and then he got into all the
medications that he was on, and when we got back
to La I was I couldn't believe that somebody, a
good man who worked hard, served his country, could feel

(27:20):
that disconnected from his own country, his community, and even the.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Brothers that he served with.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
And I think that the seminole moment was that throughout
that entire three hour drive, he would stop himself and
he would say, I can't believe I'm telling you this.
I've never told my wife this, I can't believe I'm
telling you this. I've never told a therapist.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
And so it.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Dawned on me that it was easier in our society
for veterans like this gentleman, like this tow truck driver
to tell a complete stranger that is going to listen
without prejudice, than it is to anybody in their direct circle.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, and that's what I that's what I discovered.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
You know, I went into this with no agenda other
than to tell the truth, other than to hold the
mirror up and try to give these folks and their
families across the country. For years, I did this research
to give them a voice that they felt they didn't
have I can tell you to be you know, on
the last year on the film festival circuit, to have

(28:23):
Vietnam veterans stand up in tears and a full auditorium
and point to the screen and say, you guys freaking
nailed it, or an OIF or OEF veteran in tears
to say, I finally have a movie to show my
family why I am the way I am, but why
they are the way they are. I wish I had
this film ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
You know, Steve and I did some work with a
film called Stronger that did deal with some of the
s CSD yes. I got to host some premieres for
that several years ago and worked with all of them
in promoting it. And I saw the same thing in
the audience for that film that you're talking about, where
there were people who had gone through hell and this

(29:05):
was the first film that spoke to them. And I
cannot wait until people see Sheep Dog, because while I
love Stronger, I think your film maybe even better made
than Stronger and strong was an award winning film.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Wow, Stephen, thank you. Yeah, you know this was this
took a lot. This took a lot. I mean, I
want to say this was lightning in a bottle. It
was lightning in a bottle. I had to go entirely
outside of the Hollywood system to make this film.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
That you, being the writer, director, and lead actor and
some of the other people involved in the film, this
does not look like big budget Hollywood, no.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
And you know, and the thing that happened was in
the early days with the first draft I had that
we were shopping around town, was that I was willing
to not play the part, that this was not a
vanity project. I didn't, you know, I was just happy
to be able to be component of telling the story.

(30:02):
But you know, I also over the years as a
for the for the developed the screenplay. You know, I
didn't I didn't want an actor showing up that I'd
only worked with the script for three weeks and then
giving us their interpretation of what they thought it was.
I wanted to show the world what I knew it was,
what what what the men and women that had trusted
me with their stories. But further to that, I just

(30:25):
wasn't willing to bend the knee, you know, like there
was a lot of temptation. There was a lot of
carrots that were dangled over the years, and and it's you.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Know, it's an ugly place. Alli was an ugly place.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
And you know the men and women that I had
sat in front of they were my north star, you know.
I the gold Star family members that you know had
had shared their their.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Stories with me and I and I. It definitely made
the journey harder.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't think I ever thought it was going to
take fourteen years.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Got to cut you off here, coming up on a break.
All right, So the movie is sheep Dog. It's coming
out in films real quickly. Got fifteen seconds. How can
people find out more about this film?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Please go to Sheepdog themovie dot com. All of our
information is there. If you're a veteran or a first responder,
please go to vettics dot org. You could sign up
to get tickets to be eligible for free tickets. There
are our official partner, sheepdogthemovie dot com.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
In theaters nationwide.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
January sixteenth, God bless you all, Thank you, thank you
for christening.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
To American Ground Radio.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
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back to American Ground Radio. Stephen par with Lewis sar Evaloni.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think with all of the fraud that is going
on at the federal level with respect to aid, you know,
I know, talking about the Somalis, that's an obvious example.
But there's another example out there from HUD from the
US Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Oh yeah, it's great example.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Apparently they are revealing that more than five billion dollars
five billion dollars in rental assistant payments during the final
year of the Biden administration were flagged as questionable or improper.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Five billion dollars five billion.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
And here's the crux of it all is that payments
were apparently made to over thirty thousand deceased individuals.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
What kind of housing do you need when you're dead?

Speaker 6 (33:05):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (33:06):
I mean these are people not figuratively dead, not off
the rolls. These are people who are literally deceased, and
HUD continue to write rental assistance payments to them, and if.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Someone continue to cash that money. I mean, this is
I mean odd.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
How do you send housing assistance checks to over thirty
thousand dead people?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Oh it's very easy. You just don't take them off
the rolls when they die. And whoever's receiving that that
bank account, whoever takes over that bank account, the executor
of the will, they just keep collecting the checks. Oh didn't, No,
yeah you did.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
But you know, I think whenever someone says, well, you know,
we the people have the power, We the people will
hold those in office accountable, you know what, rarely? Rarely,
because you know what happens. We all get busy, We
all get busy trying to feed our families, put a

(34:10):
roof over their head, pay the bills, pay the car payment,
make the mortgage payment, whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
We all get busy.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
And we don't hold those in power accountable. And then
what happens as government continues to expand and expand and expand,
and there's less and less accountability. And you get to
the point where you're sending five billion dollars of hardworking
taxpayer money to dead people.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, you're spending billions of dollars on daycares that have
no children. This is Look, it's not just Minneapolis. This
is happening all over the country and it's got to stop.
We're bleeding our nation dry with fraud.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
And I mean we're just now getting into year two
of this Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, and hopefully one we shut off all this fraud,
and two we prosecute the people who did it, and
we prosecute the people who allowed it to happen for
negligence and off. Absolutely, let's get to a bright spot.
I'll do it all right, getting good grades.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
So bright, I got a shame.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
So last week, the New York Times reported that Bible
sales were up by twelve percent this year over last year.
That's a bright spot. But it's even better because sales
of Bibles in twenty twenty four were up by twenty
two points over twenty twenty three. So we're looking at
double digit growth in the sales of Bibles in the

(35:45):
United States of America in each of the past two years.
I think that is a big time bright spot.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
No, I think there are more and more, especially young people, yes,
returning to the faith, and there.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Are people of all ages who are going, you know what,
there's something missing, There's something I need to check out,
and they're turning to the Bible. And the timing of
this is particularly interesting. This year, there was a surge
in Bible sales in the month of September, a thirty
three thirty six percent increase in Bible sales in the

(36:23):
month of September of twenty twenty five compared to September
of twenty twenty four. That was an extra two point
four million copies of the Bible sold in that month. Now,
the reason why that's interesting is it came in the
aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This shows some

(36:45):
of that effect. Charlie Kirk's death led to millions of
Bibles being sold within the thirty days after he passed.
There were millions of Americans who were affected so much
by Charlie Kirk's assassination that they went not only am
I going to get back in church, but I'm going
to buy a Bible, and I need a Bible, and

(37:06):
so they went to the store to buy one. And
by the way, this is on top of the people
who just downloaded a free Bible app on their phone
or on their iPad or hallo hello, right, there's free apps.
You can get Bibles for free on your phone. And
there you had two point four million people in the
month of September. When I'm not just gonna settle for

(37:27):
the free app on my phone, I'm going to go
buy a physical Bible so that I can hold the
Word of God in my hands.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Well, you know, and of course I'm a practicing Catholic, yes,
and Catholicism, I mean, I've looked at the numbers. Catholicism
has seen a surge, especially among young people, with mass
attendance is climbing. And it's not just in flyover country,
but in places that the secular class once declared spiritually dead.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Like New York City.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Right, and so, and you've got the first American pope,
right right. I know he's a Chicago native, he's a
white Sox fan.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Okay, but we're going to offer him grace for.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
That Villanova grad all right.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Okay, No, it's I think it's I think it is great.
And the Bible remains the best selling book of all time.
Estimates are there have been seven billion copies of the
Bible sold. That's nearly one Bible for every person currently alive.
No other book comes close in the history of mankind.
And when more Americans are turning back to faith and

(38:37):
looking for answers buying a Bible, I think that's a
bright spot. You know, it's going to be an even
bigger bright spot when they read it, because a lot
of us have Bibles that we haven't cracked open in
a while.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Oh yep, guilty, Yeah, we'll grab back.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
You are listening to American Ground Radio.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio, Stephen Pover with Lewis
sar Evalony.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
So apparently Charlie Kirk garnered the most search inquiries of
any news story of twenty twenty five in the world,
not just in the United States. I'm talking about the
World War in the world. So Charlie Kirk and I'm
in air quotes. Charlie Kirk was the top Google search

(39:40):
of the year.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Look the impact Charlie Kirk has had not just on
our country, but I think on people who want to
know more about liberty and want to know more about Jesus.
I think his impact is really immeasurable. Were just talking
about the surgeon Bible sales in the US in the
wake of his death. Two point four million people bought

(40:05):
Bibles in the United States in the month of September,
right after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. It's his impact is
I'm not happy that he was assassinated, but his impact
is my word, it's it's huge.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
So the number two, the number two Google news search
story government shut down. And the third well, actually the
number one news story was the one Big Beautiful Bill.
That was the number one real search term terms of news.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
If you had told me that, I would have said whoa.
When I say whoa, ah, I mean wow.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
Well.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
A new survey released earlier this week reveals what people
are making for their New Year's Resolutions. Resolutions this year,
The top two are to save money and to exercise more.
Forty five percent of surrey respondent said those were goals
on their list. That was followed by forty one percent
saying they wanted to improve their overall health forty percent

(41:18):
who want to eat healthier, twenty nine percent who want
to spend more time outdoors, and another twenty nine percent
who want to improve their mental health. So obviously health
is on the minds of a lot of folks. Only
thirty eight percent of Americans, though, are setting New Year's
resolutions for themselves for twenty twenty six, and of those
only about twenty percent expect they'll be able to keep
those resolutions through the end of March.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
So if you want to make more money or save
more money and get fit because you just need to
work your butt.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Off, yeah, or that's probably true. Maybe happiness bring you joy,
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