December 10, 2025 • 41 mins
You're listening to American Ground Radio with Stephen Parr and Louis R. Avallone. This is the full show for December 10, 2025.
0:30 We dig into what might be the political and economic turning point of our generation — the moment tariffs go from heresy to orthodoxy inside the Republican Party. For decades, the conservative establishment worshiped at the altar of free trade. Tariffs were the villain, protectionism was a dirty word, and anyone who questioned NAFTA got sent to the kids’ table. Not anymore.
With new polling showing a full revolt inside the GOP — two-thirds of Republicans now wanting tariffs kept where they are or pushed even higher — we break down how Trump didn’t just shift the debate… he blew up the old economic playbook entirely.
9:30 Plus, we cover the Top 3 Things You Need to Know.
- The ban on transgender members of the US Military is constitutional. That's the ruling of the US Appeals court for the District of Columbia.
- 12 fired FBI agents are suing the Trump Administration to get their jobs back.
- Two courts have now agreed to unseal several documents related to Jeffrey Epstein.
12:30 Get TrimROX from Victory Nutrition International for 20% off. Go to vni.life/agr and use the promo code AGR20.
13:00 We break down a move from the Trump administration that has the media scrambling for cover: a brand-new public database from DHS called WOW — Worst of the Worst — a tool that finally exposes what legacy outlets have spent years trying to bury. For the first time, any American can pull up the rap sheets of criminal illegal aliens arrested and removed by ICE, cutting straight through the spin, the soft-pedaled headlines, and the endless attempts to pretend this problem doesn’t exist.
We get into why the rollout is brilliant, how it undercuts the press narrative that ICE “only” targets harmless offenders, and why transparency like this terrifies the same institutions that have been whitewashing the consequences of illegal immigration for decades. But we also ask the tough question: if the media refuses to cover it, and most Americans never see it, how far does a database like this really go?
16:00 Today the American Mamas take on a question that hits every family sooner or later — and hits hard: What’s tougher? Losing a parent suddenly, or watching them fade slowly over time? It’s one of those raw, real-life dilemmas that doesn’t have an easy answer, but Terri Netterville and Kimberly Burleson go straight into it with honesty, humor, and the kind of lived experience you only get the hard way.
From the shock of quick goodbyes to the long heartbreak of Alzheimer’s, from feeling helpless when distance keeps you away to witnessing the moment a parent realizes their body can’t do what their mind still thinks it can — the Mamas walk through the pain, the gratitude, the guilt, the grace, and even the unexpected moments of laughter that come with loving someone through their final chapter.
If you'd like to ask our American Mamas a question, go to our website, AmericanGroundRadio.com/mamas and click on the Ask the Mamas button.
23:00 We get into a rare kind of headline — a move from one of America’s top business leaders that cuts completely against the gloomy narrative we’re all used to hearing. Michael Dell and his wife are dropping an eye-popping $6 billion to help kids open savings accounts under the new Trump-era “Trump Accounts” program, a donation so massive it’s forcing people to rethink what private generosity can actually do.
26:00 We dig into a story out of Massachusetts that’s lighting up both the pews and the comment sections: a Catholic parish swapping the Christ child out of its nativity scene and replacing Him with a sign that reads “ICE was here.” It’s the latest attempt to turn the Gospel into a campaign billboard — and the blowback isn’t subtle. The Archbishop has ordered it taken down. The pastor is refusing. And the national debate over immigration has now landed squarely in the manger.
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Speaker 8 (01:03):
This is a major turning point in American politics, in
American economics really, and I think in American history well
for decades, right, the so called I don't know if
you want to call an establishment, the conservative establishment.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Okay, the George Bush wing of the Republican Party.
Speaker 8 (01:21):
Well, no, I think you and I, You and I
to some degree, we're the conservatives. We practically worshiped at
the altar of free trade.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I mean we promoted it.
Speaker 8 (01:32):
We were all for capitalism and free markets, I.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Wouldn't say I worshiped a free trade I was opposed
to NAFTA. I understood the economic may behind free trade.
It was something that I was taught in business school
when I was in the university, and so I understood
the economic principle and the math behind it.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
Don't think NAFTA was necessarily quote unquote free trade. There's
because it wasn't balanced, it wasn't fair trade.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
There's the problem that we've never actually had free trade.
Speaker 8 (02:02):
But I guess yes, for your George HW. Bush supporters
of NAFTA.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Bob Doles, et cetera, Okay.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
I mean free trade was the holy grail, that was
the holy doctrine. Tariffs were the devil and if you
supported tariffs where you were supposedly some anti capitalists, big
government neanderthal who didn't understand economics right.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Tariffs have been maligned since the Hoots Smally Tariff Act,
that of the of the late nineteen twenties that was
widely blamed on the grid causing the Great Depression.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Well that's all changed. It didn't cause the Great that
it's all changed now.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
What really we had a great recession and that turned
into a Depression because of fd rs, Kenzian economic theory,
his big government spending, his big government programs that actually
prolonged the Great Depression. They were starting to recover from
the nineteen twenty nine stock market crash. Go back to
look at the day he puts in his Great Society
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program not his Great Society Programs, is a New Deal program,
and you'll then see the economic dips in what was
gonna be a recovery turns into a prolonged depression. Well
not because of Kenziean economics and economics. They blamed tariffs
for it, but I think he's Tarif's fault.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
I think you saw some of that in the seventies
as well as a result of the Great Society programs.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
To some degree, you saw the malaise of the seventies. Yes,
a lot of that was because of the Great Society
Programs of the late nineteen.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Sixty and then Obama brought Keynesian economics back with a
VINDA and so you.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Have the longest lasting recession since the Great Depression under
Barack Obama because he's doing some of these same things
that FDR and that that LBJ did well.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Anyway, that was a very long walk down memory Lane there.
But I wanted to share all of this with you
because according to a.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You gov poll, all right, two.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Thirds of red Republicans say tariffs should be kept at
current levels or raised even higher. Twenty eight percent of
registered Republicans say tariffs should go higher, thirty eight percent
are satisfied with the current levels. Only seventeen percent want
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tariffs reduced. Think about that seventeen percent, I mean that
is a revolution. And among Trump voters it's even more dramatic. Yeah,
sixty eight percent of Trump voters support the current tariff
levels or want them raised further. So this is not
a fringe idea anymore. This is mainstream Republican thinking that
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tariffs are good for the United States up.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Until Woodrow Wilson. By the way, have you noticed how
many Democrats we've mentioned that have put in economic policies
that have been bad for the country. Up until Woodrow Wilson,
almost everyone, the vast majority of the money that was
brought into fund the federal government came from tariffs. We
funded the Revolutionary War, we funded the War of eighteen twelve,
(05:04):
we funded the Civil War, we funded the Spanish American War,
we funded all of those generations of people through tariffs.
Woodrow Wilson comes in, he gets the income tax put
in place, and now all of a sudden you see
the growth of government spending that starts to you know,
the left likes to say that there's a hockey stick
with coming to climate temperatures. There isn't one. They make
(05:24):
it up. But when you look at government spending, there
absolutely is a hockey stick, and the curve begins at
Woodrow Wilson bringing in the income tax. If you are
if we're using tariffs to get rid of those other
taxes that we have, I am absolutely in favor of it.
It is a much more fair way of going about
doing things. Income tax takes away people's liberty to fund
(05:47):
other people's pursuit of happiness. That's backwards. You should never
be taxing liberty to fund pursuit of happiness. Pursuit happiness
has to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Come after the rate.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Tariff is a pursuit of happiness tax. So that makes
a lot more moral and logical sense.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
And it's interesting that you brought that up because President
Trump actually, i think within the last week, posted something
on True Social about doing away with the federal income taxes.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
We should do it.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
That's all other discussions. But there's a lot of folks
out there about tariffs and even conservatives who say, well,
tariffs raised prices, and of course the Democrats and mainstream
media of course, all they're all in on that narrative.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
But that's not They always data show no, they always say.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
That, they've been saying that for forty fifty, sixty, seventy years.
But prices went up. If you look at why prices
went up in America in terms of why the purchasing
power of the American dollar, where the American family went down.
Not just talking about inflation under the Biden administration, but
go back to the seventies, and it's because we lost
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domestic manufacturing. When China builds everything, China controls prices. When
America builds nothing, America has no leverage. And once we
surrendered manufacturing, what we surrendered price stability, and now inflation
kind of gets built in regardless of what, regardless of
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what our economic policy is, regardless of what the Fed does,
inflation gets baked in because, like I said, if you're
not making the product anymore, you know, like China's building everything,
they control what you pay for stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
But the other thing about tariffs is that tariffs are
a negotiating tool. They are leverage in negotiations. Donald Trump
has gotten a lot of other countries all over the
world to lower the tariffs they were charging Americans for
our exports and to open up their markets to categories
of products that we weren't allowed to sell in other countries.
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And the way he did it was through raising tariffs.
You raise tariffs up to fifty percent on another country.
They realized they can't make enough money selling products of
the US with the fifty percent tariff. So Donald Trump says,
tell you what, I'll lower this if you lower tariffs
on us. And so now we drop it back down
to about fifteen percent. Now, he doesn't get rid of
the tariffs all the way, because by them still existing,
(08:12):
that continues to be a stick. It still continues to
be a threat against the other country not to treat
us badly. Other countries will treat us as badly as
we let them well. And that's what Trump understands.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And that's why tariffs.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Yes, they are protectionists, yes, of course, because you know
why they're protectionists. They protect something. That's the point.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They protect American people.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
They protect American industries, American workers, American manufacturing, American jobs.
And you know what you call refusing to protect your
own economy, your own industry surrender? Yeah, national suicide. No
serious nation allows foreign governments to undercut its industrial base.
(08:59):
Not China, not Japan, not Germany, not South Korea, not India,
just US, just US up until Trump.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I do think it needs to be part of our
economy moving forward. Tell you what, Let's get the tougher
things you need to know before tomorrow. First, singing needle
from all. The ban on transgender members of the US
military is indeed constitutional. That's the ruling of the US
Appeals Court for the District of Columbia. Earlier this year,
(09:29):
Secretary of War Pete hegseth Is issued a wide ranging
ban on transgender military personnel, saying their presence in the
forces weakened military readiness. Several transgender service personnel sued in
a lower court place to stay on the transgender ban.
This week, the appellate court overturned that stay, allowing excess
order to go into effect.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Do you think that's going to stick?
Speaker 8 (09:51):
I think it's going to go up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, I don't think the Supreme Court overturns. Look that
the DC Court of Appeals is is one of the
most leftist courts of Appeals in the country. For them
to say this is legitimate, I'd be shocked if the
Supreme Court didn't go along with it. Second thing, and
you know, for a while, twelve fired FBI agents are
suing the Trump administration to get their jobs back. The
agents were fired earlier this year by FBI Director Koshptel
(10:14):
for an incident that happened back in twenty twenty. All
twelve agents participated in a political stunt, taking a knee
as a sign of solidarity as Black Lives Matter rioters.
The lawsuit says the twelve agents had been assigned to
patrolling Washington, d C during a riot without riot gear
or crowd control training and simply nap down quote employing
reasonable de escalation to prevent a potentially deadly confrontation with
(10:37):
American citizens. Their lawsuit claims the firing was politically motivated.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Well, first of all, I can understand that that maybe
you are a law enforcement officer and in an effort
to not escalate tensions, right you kind of you know,
you bow your head or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It may be that the crowd.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Is doing right, but at the same time, if that's
not true true, then it just sounds like they're changing
their tune now because.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
They get fired. And third thing you needed but for
a while. Two courts have now agreed to unseal several
documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. Earlier this year, the Department
of Justice asked the courts to unseal grand jury testimony
in the Epstein cases and in the Ghislie Maxwell case.
The courts had refused those early requests. However, last month,
Congress passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, requiring that information
(11:24):
to be released to the public. In a court in
Florida and another court in New York have now both
agreed to unsealed testimony that had previously been held back
from the public. Both judges Wroult that the new law
overrides the traditional rules governing the handling of grand jury
testimony and records.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
You know, I'm glad. I'm just get it all out there. Yeah,
I mean, I understand the concern that in it there
may be some minutes in people armed in all of there, maybe,
but just get it out there.
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Speaker 8 (12:46):
Now, this is a government database we actually need. Okay,
I say thank you President Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
A right.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
President Trump's Department of Homeland Security has just launched a
public online database called Wow Wow. President Trump is quite
the marketer where.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
They trying to call it woe and just misspelling. No, no, no,
it's wow because we got our moment of woe and
wow stands for worst of the worst. And so you,
as an American citizen.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Well, even if you're an illegal American citizen, yeah, that
you can't be illegal illegal alien, illegal alien. Yeah, yeah,
I guess that would be Uh, that's a misnomer. Yes,
So if you are illegally in our country, you can
access it as well. You can go to the WOW
website and you can see the worst criminal illegal aliens.
(13:39):
Maybe you'll see yourself who have been arrested and who
have been removed by ICE from this country.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Because the narrative right now is that ICE is only
getting people who aren't criminal illegal aliens. They're ap just
did a report talking about how in New Orleans, the
vast majority of the people that ICE is detained in
New Orleans aren't even criminal illegal aliens. They only have
like driver, only have done car crashes and things.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
No, but this is what's so genius about this is
because now anyone can arm themselves with the facts. I mean,
the media has spent decades covering up crime committed by
illegal aliens. They refuse to report it. They soften the headlines,
they bury the nationality, the status, anything that might remind
Americans that illegal immigration has serious consequences. What the cover
(14:30):
up is over, that's the gig is or the.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Jig is up.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
And the Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin, she
said it very plainly, and I quote as the media
white washes the facts day in and day out. Our
brave men and women of Ice of Ice risk their
lives for the American people.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
But the only problem with this, I think it's great
that the administration is doing this. The problem is that
still the vastatory of Americans aren't even going to the
website exists, much less goes get it for themselves wow,
because it's not on TikTok and wow, the leftist thing.
I think it's great that exists. Wow, yay, wonderful that
you did it for people like you and I where
we want to.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Get the faction criminals you sound.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You can go and our listeners should go and look
it up. But the vast majority of Americans aren't, and
the media is going to hide it. The media is
not going to change its way. And so that's why
while they're writing wow on the website, the problem still is, well,
winter things actually going.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
To exist, what leadership looks like. Thank you, President Trump.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
We got a question for American mamas. Your Mama's what's
harder having your parents pass suddenly or seeing them decline
slowly over time?
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Oh my gosh, what a question for our American mamas.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Mama, mama, she said.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
And joining us now our American mamas Terry Ediville and
Kimberly Burlison. Okay, Uh, you guys had your parents. I
guess it was fairly. I mean, your mom, you were
given them a month a month to live.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Dad was three months to live, so it was a
very quick goodbye.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Right, you know, with them. And my parents are now
seventy nine eighty and my dad's been having some health
problems this last year and it's been very difficult for him,
and obviously that also puts stress on my mom. Yeah,
so that you know, you see that stress and you
feel that stress too. But he's been going through his
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health difficulties longer than your two parents went through theirs combined.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Is it hard because your dad is like the hero?
I mean he's Superman, Yes, he is Superman Superman. Is
that hard to see that my dad was still so
young when he died.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
What's what I think is hardest for me is that
I'm not there. I'm a state away. Yeah, and you know,
doing the show every day and the other stuff I'm doing,
I really don't have a lot of time to get away,
and so it's hard to not be able to help
when I'd like to be able to help. That's that's
the hard part. And yeah, I mean, you don't I
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know that he's struggling with some of this stuff and
it's frustrating for him because he used to run well,
you know, at seventy six, he was coming in first
place in half marathons.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Right right, exactly doing push ups at West Point.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, whenever West Point scores a touchdown, he was doing,
you know, seven push ups for each touchdown they scored.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
And yeah, I mean, that's it's We've been talking about
it a lot because we have so many friends that
are experiencing the long goodbye with their parents, and we've thought,
what would are we the ones that are lucky because
I see them and I.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Still got to say our goodbye size in the last.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Right, because there's some people.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Who went in a car accident.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Right, it wasn't a car rect, right, But you know.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
I think that the hardest ones that I've recently have
been funerals and the parents just so happened to have
Alzheimer's the kid and I say it because we're in
our fifties, but they it's a struggle because you lose
them twice, right, you lose who they were and then
you lose them physically, and then you warn who they were.
(18:13):
And so it's hard to see your parents decline. It's
especially mentally like that not remember you. So I would
you know? I A was thinking about this when we said,
would I rather lose them quickly like we did if
they were older? You know, they were fifty eight. Dad
was fifty eight. Mom was seventy five. And with Mom
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it seemed to be a little bit easier because we
had that week all of us together, my mom and
her four children. We were with her every day in
the hospital that last week, and we were able to
say everything that we wanted to and we knew that
she was going back to be with the love of
her life. That made it a little bit easier. Selfishly,
we wanted her here because we wanted the grandkids to
know her, because she's so special.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
But yeah, I think I.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
Think the hardest ones are the ones my friends to
have parents who are suffering from Alzheimer's.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
I agree. I think that's hard to you know, there's
something that's sad too about watching your our grandmother. I
have a story she came to see me and my grandmother.
We went hiking in the mountains. I lived in Salt
Lake City and we're on a hike and she gets
to a point where she says, I have to stop.
I have to sit on this stump. I said, we'll
turn around, we'll go back. She goes, no, I want
(19:22):
you all to keep going and then come back and
I'll go down with you. And then she starts crying,
and I'm like, why are you crying? And she said,
I'm crying because my body won't let me do what
my mind says I can do.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Yeah, And that hurt me so bad because that's part
of aging and getting older. But we stay young, we
stay with it and sharp in our mind, but our
body starts failing as and you feel like it's you're
being betrayed by your body. And that's depressing.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, it I think that is something that people get
to feel as we go along. Yeah, my shoulders currently
telling me that I'm not as young as I used
to be because I did something dumb. I did a
jump like I, you know, and I landed on my
shoulder and I didn't land right, And so you get
those little pieces where you're like, that's not how that's
(20:14):
supposed to work anymore. But as you go on, that
becomes a bigger and bigger thing that Yeah, your body's
not going to keep up with I know. You know
what actually with my grandparents is two different ways. With
my grandfather, his body did not keep up with his mind.
With my grandmother, her mind did not keep up with
her body. She was still her body was still fine,
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but she was We went through some dementia issues with
her over time, and so, yeah, you do lose who
she was before you lose her.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
I agree, you know what. The one thing is I
hate about getting old though you don't know when you're whispering,
everybody can hear you, you get food stuck in your teeth.
I don't know what it is about getting older and
food gets stuck in your teeth.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
I'm really into birds, like really into birds for some reason.
And the worst part, as we've brought this up Terry's book,
you can't see when you have chin hairs. And now
I remember my grandmother always had chin hairs, and I think,
oh my god, discussing, I know, realized she couldn't see them.
She cannot see So if I'm with a young person,
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I know they're looking at me and they're counting them, and.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
They're also wondering why you're screaming exactly you can like
this car American Mambas a question, go to our website
America bout radio dot com, sash mamas A click on
the ass of the Moments button turned out of Kimber Brillisten.
Thank you so much, Thank you, and coming up next
year on American Ground Radio, we are digging deep. We'll
be that back.
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Stick around.
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Speaker 8 (22:29):
So, Michael Dell Yes and his wife are donating Susannah right,
an epic amount, Yeah, I believe that is correct, an
epic amount six billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
That's a lot of money to help kids. Yeah, six billion.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Set up their own savings accounts and the Trump accounts
as as the new legislation allows these to be built
starting in January. And you know what is is so wonderful, Well,
that he's donating six billion dollars, Well, yeah, that to
just that's pretty fantastic anybody. But the reason that he
says he's doing it, it's not for prestige. It's not
(23:08):
for another fancy building with his name on it, okay,
but because when he was six or seven years old,
he walked into a savings and loan, Yeah, with a
quarter in his hand, you know, one of those round
coins for you younger listeners. Yeah, George Washington in front
of it, a quarter.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
And he watched a teller stamp his little blue savings
past book, right, and he learned something that was once
taught to every American child. He learned about compound interest.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I remember when I was a child, we had I
had a checking a checkbook is a savings account book,
and I remember going and putting money into the banker,
remember filling out the form and depositing somebody I had
for my lawnmower business into a savings account. And by
the time I went to college from my savings account.
I actually was able to invest in a soccer store.
(24:07):
My brother and I started a soccer store well in college,
and the money I had from that came from my
savings account.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
As a child.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
And you know what's even more remarkable about Michael Dell
and his wife giving back is that he's not lecturing
America on how unfair it is not demanding that we
redistribute wealth by force, right, or you know, he's not
donating to some government program.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
The government isn't taxing his wealth to the tune of
six billion dollars so that the government can give that
to us AID or whatever or something government organization. Absolutely,
he gets to decide what is the best way, what
is the best use of this money, How can this
money do the most good. This is why I say
government cannot do charity. Government's awful at trying to do charity.
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We are so much better about deciding how our own
money is going to do the most good than the
government ever could be.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Well, and this is a guy that wants to make
sure other children have that same opportunity. That's right, And
that's what he said. I want more kids to have
the same shot. I had.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
The reasons behind it are right, the method of doing
it is right. This is this is it. He's doing
the right thing in the right way for the right reasons.
This is a good thing, and I'm it makes me proud.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
To be in and I think it strengthens some might say,
preserves the American dream for the next generation.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Tell you what, let's dig deep, going down down.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Outside the Saint Susanna Parish in Debta, Massachusetts, there's a
Nativity scene, which is not unusual this time of the
year outside of Catholic Church, but the Nativity scene itself
is causing a lot of controversy, mostly because the church
is using a religious image to make a political point.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
See.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The Nativity scene has the sheep and the shepherds, and
the wise men and the angels you normally see along
with Mary and Joseph. But in the manger where you
would expect to see a baby Jesus, there's instead a
sign saying quote Ice was here, and then there's a
phone number to an organization that tracks ICE's operations.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You're kidding me.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
No, not kidding at all. The pastor in charge of
this Catholic church, Saint Susannah Parish Reverend Stephen Josoma has
been ordered by the Archbishop of Boston to take it down,
but so far he's refusing. He held a press conference
saying he was just trying to quote evoke dialogue around
an issue that is at the heart of contemporary life. Okay, well,
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that's all fine and good, But is it right for
a Catholic priest to misrepresent the Gospels in order to
make his point, Because that's what's going on here. Reverend
Josoma is telling a different story about the birth of
Jesus and the Holy Family to suit his political views,
a story that's not actually in the Bible, and that
is simply not Okay, let's start with the premise. The
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only reason why Ice would take a baby a baby
Jesus was if he was an unaccompanied miner smuggled into
this country in place with the family that wasn't his.
That's clearly not what happened with Jesus. Mary was his
actual mother. She was born in Israel, which was then
called Judea at the time under the rule of the
Roman Empire. Joseph was also from Judea and in particular Bethlehem,
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So baby Jesus wouldn't have been taken by immigration officers
since both his mother and father were legal residents of
Rome and Judea in particular. Next, Mary and Joseph weren't
immigrants at the time of Jesus's birth. They were going
back to Bethlehem because it was time for the census.
They had to go back to the town of Joseph's ancestry.
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They were in Bethlehem because they were following the law,
not because they were breaking the law. This is a
big difference. People Ice is tracking down are deporting that
they're deporting from this country. Are being deported because they
are breaking the law, not because they're following the law.
It's the exact opposite of the Nativity story.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Well, and let me be very clear, Catholic teaching does
not require, doesn't endorse, doesn't encourage illegal immigration. The Catechism itself,
you know, it's kind of like the rule book for
the Catholic faith right says that nations must welcome the
foreigner only insofar as they are able, and at the
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same time, migrants are obligated to respect the laws, traditions,
and responsibilities of the country receiving them.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Obligated. So the Catholic Church is crystal clear. Immigration is
not a free pass. It requires order and legality and respect.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Now, maybe Reverend Josoma is attempting to refer to the
Holy Family's travels to Egypt, because after Jesus was born,
King Herod ordered the killing of all baby boys two
years and younger born in Bethlehem. So Mary and Joseph
takes Jesus to Egypt after an angel tells them to flee,
and people on the left will say, see, Jesus was
an illegal alien in Egypt, and Ice would deport them
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back to Bethlehem to be killed as a baby. No,
that's not what happened. Remember that Judea was under the
rule of the Roman Empire at the time of the
birth of Jesus, so was Egypt Egyptus. Egypt was a
Roman province that neighbored Judea. It covered much of the
area that both ancient Egypt and modern Egypt cover. It
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would be like traveling from Dedham, Massachusetts to Syracuse, New York.
That's about the exact same distance. And importantly, both Massachusetts
and New York are neighboring states in this country, just
as Judea and Egyptus were neighboring provinces in the Roman Empire.
So it's not illegal. It's not illegal immigration to go
from one province to another.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Well, and again, I know the pope back on the
whole Catholic faith, I know. I think it's Pope Leo
has said, you know that illegal immigration. They've been critical
of President Tromp. They have been, but you have to
remember something. Illegal immigration harms the poor first, not the wealthy,
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not the politicians. And so Catholic parishioners, yeah, I mean,
they pray.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
For the poor, and yet illegal immigration hurts the poor.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
They hurt them the most and often the first.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And look, I'm singingly out the church in Massachusetts, but
they are only the first or the only people to
make this argument that Jesus was an illegal immigrant. But
the church should know better. You would have expected the
church and the church leaders to at least have read
all of the gospels once. And it's a sin to
misrepresent the gospels. The apostle Paul wrote in Galatians one nine,
(30:38):
as we have said before, So now I say again,
if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to
the one you received let him be under a curse.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Look, I don't wish a curse on anyone, including Reverend Josoma,
but he is misrepresenting the story of the nativity of
Jesus's birth, and he's doing it to engage in a
modern political fight, not to spread the good news of
the kingdom. Ultimately, whether he ends up under a curse
or not, we'll be up to God, not me or not. Paul,
just make sure you don't fall for the same lives
about Jesus's birth that Reverend Jostoma appears to have bought into.
(31:10):
Do not be deceived. Jesus' birth is not about illegal immigration.
It's about the good news that the Kingdom is at hand.
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Stephen Paul Lewis, So, there is a story in the
New York Times about how Kamala Harris apparently will have
a marble bust of herself put on display in the
United States Capitola.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
She says she's a historical figure.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Sure, she's she's a hysterical figure.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
And she was being interviewed, of course, and by the
New York Times, and they were kind of, you know,
playing this cat and mouse game about whether she was
going to run for president again, and she said, oh,
it's three years from now.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Did she say I can't. My campaign's a bust?
Speaker 8 (32:55):
Aha?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
It was, it always will be.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
And nevertheless, you know, she said that she is focused
on twenty eight and all that.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
I mean, but who doesn't have a marble bust of
them selves? Well, I mean, I mean, come on, well,
don't you have a marble bust?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Actually, Well, are there are busts?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's just me?
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Well, there are there are bus of for you have.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
A marble bust of yourself.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Huh what Okay, there are busts of former Vice presidents
Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and Harris that are still in progress,
with the bust of Vice President j D. Vance to
be commissioned when he exits office.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Okay, so I mean normal, I mean that just kind of.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I mean, is she really the leading presidential contender for
the Democrat Party right now?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
She is the leading contender for the Democrat Party. Gavin
Newsom is in second. None of the above is.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
But does that really prize anyone? I mean, who else
are you going to get Zoe ram Mamdani?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Well, yeah, maybe they will.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I mean it's still early, don't scoff ao Season four
behind none of the above, So yeah, they they probably
will try and get someone like that. But who would
be effective. They've got some other people that could be effective.
Governor of Colorado, he could be effective. Cooper out of
North Carolina, he could be an effection Josh Josh Stein
(34:30):
in Pennsylvania. They could all be effective candidate. Get that
they don't stand a chance of winning the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
But none of them, None of them, I don't care
who they are. You fill in the blank with whoever
name you want. None of them will be able to
point to any successes, policy initiatives, anything that they've done
good for this country whatsoever, other than hating on President Trump,
other than suffering from Trump derangement. Centrome.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Tell you what, let's look at a bright spot.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
I'm doing all right, getting good.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Great.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
So I went down a rabbit hole today on state mottos.
You ever go look at state models?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Is that just the state mottos?
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah? Like the mode of the United States of America
is in God, we trust. You've been a big fan
of that, right.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Well, yeah, it's right above our head.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
So every state in the Union has an official motto.
Some of them have two, which I'm not sure how
you have two official state models, but some of.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Them very enthusiastic.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
A lot of them are in Latin, but for time's sake,
I'm just going to deal with the English translation. So
the first thing I noticed was how many state mottos
referenced God. And I think this is about God.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh my heavens know.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
How about this Arizona. God enriches Colorado. Nothing without providence,
So you get nothing without the blessing of God. Connecticut,
he who transplanted still sustains that model. Goes back to
sixteen sixty two, before Connecticut was a state, just a
British colony. So basically, the people who transport, the one
who transplanted us from Britain here to Connecticut is still
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sustaining us in Connecticut. I love that motto. Florida in
God we trust, like the national motto Kentucky, let us
be grateful to God. Ohio, With God, all things are possible.
And South Dakota under God the people rule. I love
all of those referencing God. I think those are all brights.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Oh my, does the left know this because I would
figure that they would try to cancel some of these
states with.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
These Connecticut, Colorado, those are blue states. And because they're
referencing God in their motto, I.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Mean they're clearly establishing a religion by having a motto
that uses the word God in it.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
All right.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
There were several states that talked about liberty or freedom
in their motto. So Delaware liberty and independence, that's their motto.
Iowa are liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain.
Massachusetts by the sword. We seek peace, but peace only
under liberty. New Hampshire live free or die. New Jersey
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liberty and prosperity, Pennsylvania Virtue, liberty and independence, Vermont freedom
and unity. West Virginia mountaineers are always free, and the
State of Virginia is similar. It's just a little bit
more violent and says thus always to tyrants.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
You know.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
And what's interesting is, of course, as these states were
founded and these mottoes were adopted, they were all in
the style or certainly all wanting to be more like
the federal government. And of course the federal government's motto
in God we Trust was not adopted until nineteen fifty eight.
(37:43):
So I can't go back to the founding of this country.
But when the founders, let's go back to the founding
of this country. When the founders said our rights come
from God, not from kings, not from politicians, not from
government bureaucrats, they were laying down the most revolutionary eye
in human history. And that phrase, in God we Trust
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means authority above government, not inside it. It means government
is accountable, not supreme right. It means your rights aren't
from Washington or from your state capital. They are gifts
from Almighty God. And that is the antidote to tyranny,
because when the state believes it is God.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Try, oh my Lord, that's what Mamdani thinks. So Mamdanni
is literally a praise God with government. He thinks he's
now God in New York. And that is tyranny.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Because if our rights do come from man, then what
man gives man can take away.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And probably will and does. But I think it's a
bright spot. There's so many states that have a model
that talks about God and about the respect of liberty
and freedom.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
You are listening to American Ground Radio.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio. Stephen Paul Lewis, what's up.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
But if you're not happy in this country, get out,
get out a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
You've got it.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
No, no, you look, let me just tell you something.
As as the son of an Italian immigrant, my father,
my grandparents also immigrants to this country. They loved this country.
They bled red, white, and blue. America represented to them
the American dream, the opportunity, I mean, the opportunity to
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move from poverty to prosperity in one generation.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And if you're here.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
And you don't appreciate the opportunity, the blessings that this
country and it's people offer you, then get out. I
mean seriously, and I and I mean that because if
you don't love where you live, and I know there's
a lot of folks living in poverty all across the country,
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all across the world, well.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
I mean they're people that just are going through things.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
But if you moved here for a better life, okay,
and you don't love this country, okay, go back home.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
No in yeah, go back home.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
And there's no it's no hard feelings.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's okay.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
It didn't work out for you. You're not that into us.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
It's okay. It's time to move on.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So basically, if you came here and you aren't happy,
then it's time to say whoa whoa. When I say whoa, ah,
I mean whoa. On December fifth, twenty fifteen, Ohio State
trooper Brettlee pulled over care Relief Slavens after she was
speeding and failing to signal. During the traffic stop, became
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obvious that the problem was Kimberly was intoxicated. She's been
drinking all night before was still impaired by the morning.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Worst.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
This was kimberly second time we'd be pulled over for
impair driving in six months. It was the wake up
call she needed. Kimberly realized she had a drinking problem,
set out to get help, and one year later, she
walked into the Ohio State Patrol Post eighty three with
the handwritten card for Sergeant Lee, thanking him for pulling
her over and changing her life. And every year since,
Onmber fifth, she delivers another handwritten card to Sergeant Lee
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to continue to thank him. This year, it's been ten
years sober for Kimberly.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Sometimes it is darkest before the dawn.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
May your pursuit of happiness bring you joy.
It's able available now with no what official flavors sweeters are,
but trulyum base dies.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's all natural and it's harvested on American ground fields.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's abled.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You are making out America Smart Agan's baby.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
We choose to go to the moon and do the
other thing, not because they are easy, but because they
are on.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
It is time for us to realize that we're too
great a nation to limit ourselves to small dreams.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
I have a dream, but one day this nation will
rise up, live out the true meaning.
Speaker 7 (00:41):
Of its creed.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
American Ground Radio with Lewis r Avaloni and Stephen pot.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Brul This is American Ground Radium. Stephen Parker, Lewis, I think.
Speaker 8 (01:03):
This is a major turning point in American politics, in
American economics really, and I think in American history well
for decades, right, the so called I don't know if
you want to call an establishment, the conservative establishment.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Okay, the George Bush wing of the Republican Party.
Speaker 8 (01:21):
Well, no, I think you and I, You and I
to some degree, we're the conservatives. We practically worshiped at
the altar of free trade.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I mean we promoted it.
Speaker 8 (01:32):
We were all for capitalism and free markets, I.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Wouldn't say I worshiped a free trade I was opposed
to NAFTA. I understood the economic may behind free trade.
It was something that I was taught in business school
when I was in the university, and so I understood
the economic principle and the math behind it.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
Don't think NAFTA was necessarily quote unquote free trade. There's
because it wasn't balanced, it wasn't fair trade.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
There's the problem that we've never actually had free trade.
Speaker 8 (02:02):
But I guess yes, for your George HW. Bush supporters
of NAFTA.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Bob Doles, et cetera, Okay.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
I mean free trade was the holy grail, that was
the holy doctrine. Tariffs were the devil and if you
supported tariffs where you were supposedly some anti capitalists, big
government neanderthal who didn't understand economics right.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Tariffs have been maligned since the Hoots Smally Tariff Act,
that of the of the late nineteen twenties that was
widely blamed on the grid causing the Great Depression.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Well that's all changed. It didn't cause the Great that
it's all changed now.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
What really we had a great recession and that turned
into a Depression because of fd rs, Kenzian economic theory,
his big government spending, his big government programs that actually
prolonged the Great Depression. They were starting to recover from
the nineteen twenty nine stock market crash. Go back to
look at the day he puts in his Great Society
(03:02):
program not his Great Society Programs, is a New Deal program,
and you'll then see the economic dips in what was
gonna be a recovery turns into a prolonged depression. Well
not because of Kenziean economics and economics. They blamed tariffs
for it, but I think he's Tarif's fault.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
I think you saw some of that in the seventies
as well as a result of the Great Society programs.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
To some degree, you saw the malaise of the seventies. Yes,
a lot of that was because of the Great Society
Programs of the late nineteen.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Sixty and then Obama brought Keynesian economics back with a
VINDA and so you.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Have the longest lasting recession since the Great Depression under
Barack Obama because he's doing some of these same things
that FDR and that that LBJ did well.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Anyway, that was a very long walk down memory Lane there.
But I wanted to share all of this with you
because according to a.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You gov poll, all right, two.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Thirds of red Republicans say tariffs should be kept at
current levels or raised even higher. Twenty eight percent of
registered Republicans say tariffs should go higher, thirty eight percent
are satisfied with the current levels. Only seventeen percent want
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tariffs reduced. Think about that seventeen percent, I mean that
is a revolution. And among Trump voters it's even more dramatic. Yeah,
sixty eight percent of Trump voters support the current tariff
levels or want them raised further. So this is not
a fringe idea anymore. This is mainstream Republican thinking that
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tariffs are good for the United States up.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Until Woodrow Wilson. By the way, have you noticed how
many Democrats we've mentioned that have put in economic policies
that have been bad for the country. Up until Woodrow Wilson,
almost everyone, the vast majority of the money that was
brought into fund the federal government came from tariffs. We
funded the Revolutionary War, we funded the War of eighteen twelve,
(05:04):
we funded the Civil War, we funded the Spanish American War,
we funded all of those generations of people through tariffs.
Woodrow Wilson comes in, he gets the income tax put
in place, and now all of a sudden you see
the growth of government spending that starts to you know,
the left likes to say that there's a hockey stick
with coming to climate temperatures. There isn't one. They make
(05:24):
it up. But when you look at government spending, there
absolutely is a hockey stick, and the curve begins at
Woodrow Wilson bringing in the income tax. If you are
if we're using tariffs to get rid of those other
taxes that we have, I am absolutely in favor of it.
It is a much more fair way of going about
doing things. Income tax takes away people's liberty to fund
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other people's pursuit of happiness. That's backwards. You should never
be taxing liberty to fund pursuit of happiness. Pursuit happiness
has to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Come after the rate.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Tariff is a pursuit of happiness tax. So that makes
a lot more moral and logical sense.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
And it's interesting that you brought that up because President
Trump actually, i think within the last week, posted something
on True Social about doing away with the federal income taxes.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
We should do it.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
That's all other discussions. But there's a lot of folks
out there about tariffs and even conservatives who say, well,
tariffs raised prices, and of course the Democrats and mainstream
media of course, all they're all in on that narrative.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
But that's not They always data show no, they always say.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
That, they've been saying that for forty fifty, sixty, seventy years.
But prices went up. If you look at why prices
went up in America in terms of why the purchasing
power of the American dollar, where the American family went down.
Not just talking about inflation under the Biden administration, but
go back to the seventies, and it's because we lost
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domestic manufacturing. When China builds everything, China controls prices. When
America builds nothing, America has no leverage. And once we
surrendered manufacturing, what we surrendered price stability, and now inflation
kind of gets built in regardless of what, regardless of
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what our economic policy is, regardless of what the Fed does,
inflation gets baked in because, like I said, if you're
not making the product anymore, you know, like China's building everything,
they control what you pay for stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
But the other thing about tariffs is that tariffs are
a negotiating tool. They are leverage in negotiations. Donald Trump
has gotten a lot of other countries all over the
world to lower the tariffs they were charging Americans for
our exports and to open up their markets to categories
of products that we weren't allowed to sell in other countries.
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And the way he did it was through raising tariffs.
You raise tariffs up to fifty percent on another country.
They realized they can't make enough money selling products of
the US with the fifty percent tariff. So Donald Trump says,
tell you what, I'll lower this if you lower tariffs
on us. And so now we drop it back down
to about fifteen percent. Now, he doesn't get rid of
the tariffs all the way, because by them still existing,
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that continues to be a stick. It still continues to
be a threat against the other country not to treat
us badly. Other countries will treat us as badly as
we let them well. And that's what Trump understands.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And that's why tariffs.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Yes, they are protectionists, yes, of course, because you know
why they're protectionists. They protect something. That's the point.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They protect American people.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
They protect American industries, American workers, American manufacturing, American jobs.
And you know what you call refusing to protect your
own economy, your own industry surrender? Yeah, national suicide. No
serious nation allows foreign governments to undercut its industrial base.
(08:59):
Not China, not Japan, not Germany, not South Korea, not India,
just US, just US up until Trump.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I do think it needs to be part of our
economy moving forward. Tell you what, Let's get the tougher
things you need to know before tomorrow. First, singing needle
from all. The ban on transgender members of the US
military is indeed constitutional. That's the ruling of the US
Appeals Court for the District of Columbia. Earlier this year,
(09:29):
Secretary of War Pete hegseth Is issued a wide ranging
ban on transgender military personnel, saying their presence in the
forces weakened military readiness. Several transgender service personnel sued in
a lower court place to stay on the transgender ban.
This week, the appellate court overturned that stay, allowing excess
order to go into effect.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Do you think that's going to stick?
Speaker 8 (09:51):
I think it's going to go up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, I don't think the Supreme Court overturns. Look that
the DC Court of Appeals is is one of the
most leftist courts of Appeals in the country. For them
to say this is legitimate, I'd be shocked if the
Supreme Court didn't go along with it. Second thing, and
you know, for a while, twelve fired FBI agents are
suing the Trump administration to get their jobs back. The
agents were fired earlier this year by FBI Director Koshptel
(10:14):
for an incident that happened back in twenty twenty. All
twelve agents participated in a political stunt, taking a knee
as a sign of solidarity as Black Lives Matter rioters.
The lawsuit says the twelve agents had been assigned to
patrolling Washington, d C during a riot without riot gear
or crowd control training and simply nap down quote employing
reasonable de escalation to prevent a potentially deadly confrontation with
(10:37):
American citizens. Their lawsuit claims the firing was politically motivated.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Well, first of all, I can understand that that maybe
you are a law enforcement officer and in an effort
to not escalate tensions, right you kind of you know,
you bow your head or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It may be that the crowd.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Is doing right, but at the same time, if that's
not true true, then it just sounds like they're changing
their tune now because.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
They get fired. And third thing you needed but for
a while. Two courts have now agreed to unseal several
documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. Earlier this year, the Department
of Justice asked the courts to unseal grand jury testimony
in the Epstein cases and in the Ghislie Maxwell case.
The courts had refused those early requests. However, last month,
Congress passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, requiring that information
(11:24):
to be released to the public. In a court in
Florida and another court in New York have now both
agreed to unsealed testimony that had previously been held back
from the public. Both judges Wroult that the new law
overrides the traditional rules governing the handling of grand jury
testimony and records.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
You know, I'm glad. I'm just get it all out there. Yeah,
I mean, I understand the concern that in it there
may be some minutes in people armed in all of there, maybe,
but just get it out there.
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Speaker 8 (12:46):
Now, this is a government database we actually need. Okay,
I say thank you President Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
A right.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
President Trump's Department of Homeland Security has just launched a
public online database called Wow Wow. President Trump is quite
the marketer where.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
They trying to call it woe and just misspelling. No, no, no,
it's wow because we got our moment of woe and
wow stands for worst of the worst. And so you,
as an American citizen.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Well, even if you're an illegal American citizen, yeah, that
you can't be illegal illegal alien, illegal alien. Yeah, yeah,
I guess that would be Uh, that's a misnomer. Yes,
So if you are illegally in our country, you can
access it as well. You can go to the WOW
website and you can see the worst criminal illegal aliens.
(13:39):
Maybe you'll see yourself who have been arrested and who
have been removed by ICE from this country.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Because the narrative right now is that ICE is only
getting people who aren't criminal illegal aliens. They're ap just
did a report talking about how in New Orleans, the
vast majority of the people that ICE is detained in
New Orleans aren't even criminal illegal aliens. They only have
like driver, only have done car crashes and things.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
No, but this is what's so genius about this is
because now anyone can arm themselves with the facts. I mean,
the media has spent decades covering up crime committed by
illegal aliens. They refuse to report it. They soften the headlines,
they bury the nationality, the status, anything that might remind
Americans that illegal immigration has serious consequences. What the cover
(14:30):
up is over, that's the gig is or the.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Jig is up.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
And the Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin, she
said it very plainly, and I quote as the media
white washes the facts day in and day out. Our
brave men and women of Ice of Ice risk their
lives for the American people.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
But the only problem with this, I think it's great
that the administration is doing this. The problem is that
still the vastatory of Americans aren't even going to the
website exists, much less goes get it for themselves wow,
because it's not on TikTok and wow, the leftist thing.
I think it's great that exists. Wow, yay, wonderful that
you did it for people like you and I where
we want to.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Get the faction criminals you sound.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You can go and our listeners should go and look
it up. But the vast majority of Americans aren't, and
the media is going to hide it. The media is
not going to change its way. And so that's why
while they're writing wow on the website, the problem still is, well,
winter things actually going.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
To exist, what leadership looks like. Thank you, President Trump.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
We got a question for American mamas. Your Mama's what's
harder having your parents pass suddenly or seeing them decline
slowly over time?
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Oh my gosh, what a question for our American mamas.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Mama, mama, she said.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
And joining us now our American mamas Terry Ediville and
Kimberly Burlison. Okay, Uh, you guys had your parents. I
guess it was fairly. I mean, your mom, you were
given them a month a month to live.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Dad was three months to live, so it was a
very quick goodbye.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Right, you know, with them. And my parents are now
seventy nine eighty and my dad's been having some health
problems this last year and it's been very difficult for him,
and obviously that also puts stress on my mom. Yeah,
so that you know, you see that stress and you
feel that stress too. But he's been going through his
(16:33):
health difficulties longer than your two parents went through theirs combined.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Is it hard because your dad is like the hero?
I mean he's Superman, Yes, he is Superman Superman. Is
that hard to see that my dad was still so
young when he died.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
What's what I think is hardest for me is that
I'm not there. I'm a state away. Yeah, and you know,
doing the show every day and the other stuff I'm doing,
I really don't have a lot of time to get away,
and so it's hard to not be able to help
when I'd like to be able to help. That's that's
the hard part. And yeah, I mean, you don't I
(17:10):
know that he's struggling with some of this stuff and
it's frustrating for him because he used to run well,
you know, at seventy six, he was coming in first
place in half marathons.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Right right, exactly doing push ups at West Point.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, whenever West Point scores a touchdown, he was doing,
you know, seven push ups for each touchdown they scored.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
And yeah, I mean, that's it's We've been talking about
it a lot because we have so many friends that
are experiencing the long goodbye with their parents, and we've thought,
what would are we the ones that are lucky because
I see them and I.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Still got to say our goodbye size in the last.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Right, because there's some people.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Who went in a car accident.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Right, it wasn't a car rect, right, But you know.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
I think that the hardest ones that I've recently have
been funerals and the parents just so happened to have
Alzheimer's the kid and I say it because we're in
our fifties, but they it's a struggle because you lose
them twice, right, you lose who they were and then
you lose them physically, and then you warn who they were.
(18:13):
And so it's hard to see your parents decline. It's
especially mentally like that not remember you. So I would
you know? I A was thinking about this when we said,
would I rather lose them quickly like we did if
they were older? You know, they were fifty eight. Dad
was fifty eight. Mom was seventy five. And with Mom
(18:35):
it seemed to be a little bit easier because we
had that week all of us together, my mom and
her four children. We were with her every day in
the hospital that last week, and we were able to
say everything that we wanted to and we knew that
she was going back to be with the love of
her life. That made it a little bit easier. Selfishly,
we wanted her here because we wanted the grandkids to
know her, because she's so special.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
But yeah, I think I.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
Think the hardest ones are the ones my friends to
have parents who are suffering from Alzheimer's.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
I agree. I think that's hard to you know, there's
something that's sad too about watching your our grandmother. I
have a story she came to see me and my grandmother.
We went hiking in the mountains. I lived in Salt
Lake City and we're on a hike and she gets
to a point where she says, I have to stop.
I have to sit on this stump. I said, we'll
turn around, we'll go back. She goes, no, I want
(19:22):
you all to keep going and then come back and
I'll go down with you. And then she starts crying,
and I'm like, why are you crying? And she said,
I'm crying because my body won't let me do what
my mind says I can do.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Yeah, And that hurt me so bad because that's part
of aging and getting older. But we stay young, we
stay with it and sharp in our mind, but our
body starts failing as and you feel like it's you're
being betrayed by your body. And that's depressing.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, it I think that is something that people get
to feel as we go along. Yeah, my shoulders currently
telling me that I'm not as young as I used
to be because I did something dumb. I did a
jump like I, you know, and I landed on my
shoulder and I didn't land right, And so you get
those little pieces where you're like, that's not how that's
(20:14):
supposed to work anymore. But as you go on, that
becomes a bigger and bigger thing that Yeah, your body's
not going to keep up with I know. You know
what actually with my grandparents is two different ways. With
my grandfather, his body did not keep up with his mind.
With my grandmother, her mind did not keep up with
her body. She was still her body was still fine,
(20:35):
but she was We went through some dementia issues with
her over time, and so, yeah, you do lose who
she was before you lose her.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
I agree, you know what. The one thing is I
hate about getting old though you don't know when you're whispering,
everybody can hear you, you get food stuck in your teeth.
I don't know what it is about getting older and
food gets stuck in your teeth.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
I'm really into birds, like really into birds for some reason.
And the worst part, as we've brought this up Terry's book,
you can't see when you have chin hairs. And now
I remember my grandmother always had chin hairs, and I think,
oh my god, discussing, I know, realized she couldn't see them.
She cannot see So if I'm with a young person,
(21:21):
I know they're looking at me and they're counting them, and.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
They're also wondering why you're screaming exactly you can like
this car American Mambas a question, go to our website
America bout radio dot com, sash mamas A click on
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Thank you so much, Thank you, and coming up next
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Speaker 8 (22:29):
So, Michael Dell Yes and his wife are donating Susannah right,
an epic amount, Yeah, I believe that is correct, an
epic amount six billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
That's a lot of money to help kids. Yeah, six billion.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Set up their own savings accounts and the Trump accounts
as as the new legislation allows these to be built
starting in January. And you know what is is so wonderful, Well,
that he's donating six billion dollars, Well, yeah, that to
just that's pretty fantastic anybody. But the reason that he
says he's doing it, it's not for prestige. It's not
(23:08):
for another fancy building with his name on it, okay,
but because when he was six or seven years old,
he walked into a savings and loan, Yeah, with a
quarter in his hand, you know, one of those round
coins for you younger listeners. Yeah, George Washington in front
of it, a quarter.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
And he watched a teller stamp his little blue savings
past book, right, and he learned something that was once
taught to every American child. He learned about compound interest.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I remember when I was a child, we had I
had a checking a checkbook is a savings account book,
and I remember going and putting money into the banker,
remember filling out the form and depositing somebody I had
for my lawnmower business into a savings account. And by
the time I went to college from my savings account.
I actually was able to invest in a soccer store.
(24:07):
My brother and I started a soccer store well in college,
and the money I had from that came from my
savings account.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
As a child.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
And you know what's even more remarkable about Michael Dell
and his wife giving back is that he's not lecturing
America on how unfair it is not demanding that we
redistribute wealth by force, right, or you know, he's not
donating to some government program.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
The government isn't taxing his wealth to the tune of
six billion dollars so that the government can give that
to us AID or whatever or something government organization. Absolutely,
he gets to decide what is the best way, what
is the best use of this money, How can this
money do the most good. This is why I say
government cannot do charity. Government's awful at trying to do charity.
(24:53):
We are so much better about deciding how our own
money is going to do the most good than the
government ever could be.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Well, and this is a guy that wants to make
sure other children have that same opportunity. That's right, And
that's what he said. I want more kids to have
the same shot. I had.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
The reasons behind it are right, the method of doing
it is right. This is this is it. He's doing
the right thing in the right way for the right reasons.
This is a good thing, and I'm it makes me proud.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
To be in and I think it strengthens some might say,
preserves the American dream for the next generation.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Tell you what, let's dig deep, going down down.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Outside the Saint Susanna Parish in Debta, Massachusetts, there's a
Nativity scene, which is not unusual this time of the
year outside of Catholic Church, but the Nativity scene itself
is causing a lot of controversy, mostly because the church
is using a religious image to make a political point.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
See.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The Nativity scene has the sheep and the shepherds, and
the wise men and the angels you normally see along
with Mary and Joseph. But in the manger where you
would expect to see a baby Jesus, there's instead a
sign saying quote Ice was here, and then there's a
phone number to an organization that tracks ICE's operations.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You're kidding me.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
No, not kidding at all. The pastor in charge of
this Catholic church, Saint Susannah Parish Reverend Stephen Josoma has
been ordered by the Archbishop of Boston to take it down,
but so far he's refusing. He held a press conference
saying he was just trying to quote evoke dialogue around
an issue that is at the heart of contemporary life. Okay, well,
(26:34):
that's all fine and good, But is it right for
a Catholic priest to misrepresent the Gospels in order to
make his point, Because that's what's going on here. Reverend
Josoma is telling a different story about the birth of
Jesus and the Holy Family to suit his political views,
a story that's not actually in the Bible, and that
is simply not Okay, let's start with the premise. The
(26:55):
only reason why Ice would take a baby a baby
Jesus was if he was an unaccompanied miner smuggled into
this country in place with the family that wasn't his.
That's clearly not what happened with Jesus. Mary was his
actual mother. She was born in Israel, which was then
called Judea at the time under the rule of the
Roman Empire. Joseph was also from Judea and in particular Bethlehem,
(27:17):
So baby Jesus wouldn't have been taken by immigration officers
since both his mother and father were legal residents of
Rome and Judea in particular. Next, Mary and Joseph weren't
immigrants at the time of Jesus's birth. They were going
back to Bethlehem because it was time for the census.
They had to go back to the town of Joseph's ancestry.
(27:38):
They were in Bethlehem because they were following the law,
not because they were breaking the law. This is a
big difference. People Ice is tracking down are deporting that
they're deporting from this country. Are being deported because they
are breaking the law, not because they're following the law.
It's the exact opposite of the Nativity story.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Well, and let me be very clear, Catholic teaching does
not require, doesn't endorse, doesn't encourage illegal immigration. The Catechism itself,
you know, it's kind of like the rule book for
the Catholic faith right says that nations must welcome the
foreigner only insofar as they are able, and at the
(28:20):
same time, migrants are obligated to respect the laws, traditions,
and responsibilities of the country receiving them.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Obligated. So the Catholic Church is crystal clear. Immigration is
not a free pass. It requires order and legality and respect.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Now, maybe Reverend Josoma is attempting to refer to the
Holy Family's travels to Egypt, because after Jesus was born,
King Herod ordered the killing of all baby boys two
years and younger born in Bethlehem. So Mary and Joseph
takes Jesus to Egypt after an angel tells them to flee,
and people on the left will say, see, Jesus was
an illegal alien in Egypt, and Ice would deport them
(29:01):
back to Bethlehem to be killed as a baby. No,
that's not what happened. Remember that Judea was under the
rule of the Roman Empire at the time of the
birth of Jesus, so was Egypt Egyptus. Egypt was a
Roman province that neighbored Judea. It covered much of the
area that both ancient Egypt and modern Egypt cover. It
(29:23):
would be like traveling from Dedham, Massachusetts to Syracuse, New York.
That's about the exact same distance. And importantly, both Massachusetts
and New York are neighboring states in this country, just
as Judea and Egyptus were neighboring provinces in the Roman Empire.
So it's not illegal. It's not illegal immigration to go
from one province to another.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Well, and again, I know the pope back on the
whole Catholic faith, I know. I think it's Pope Leo
has said, you know that illegal immigration. They've been critical
of President Tromp. They have been, but you have to
remember something. Illegal immigration harms the poor first, not the wealthy,
(30:05):
not the politicians. And so Catholic parishioners, yeah, I mean,
they pray.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
For the poor, and yet illegal immigration hurts the poor.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
They hurt them the most and often the first.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And look, I'm singingly out the church in Massachusetts, but
they are only the first or the only people to
make this argument that Jesus was an illegal immigrant. But
the church should know better. You would have expected the
church and the church leaders to at least have read
all of the gospels once. And it's a sin to
misrepresent the gospels. The apostle Paul wrote in Galatians one nine,
(30:38):
as we have said before, So now I say again,
if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to
the one you received let him be under a curse.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Look, I don't wish a curse on anyone, including Reverend Josoma,
but he is misrepresenting the story of the nativity of
Jesus's birth, and he's doing it to engage in a
modern political fight, not to spread the good news of
the kingdom. Ultimately, whether he ends up under a curse
or not, we'll be up to God, not me or not. Paul,
just make sure you don't fall for the same lives
about Jesus's birth that Reverend Jostoma appears to have bought into.
(31:10):
Do not be deceived. Jesus' birth is not about illegal immigration.
It's about the good news that the Kingdom is at hand.
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Speaker 6 (32:12):
Stephen Paul Lewis, So, there is a story in the
New York Times about how Kamala Harris apparently will have
a marble bust of herself put on display in the
United States Capitola.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
She says she's a historical figure.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Sure, she's she's a hysterical figure.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
And she was being interviewed, of course, and by the
New York Times, and they were kind of, you know,
playing this cat and mouse game about whether she was
going to run for president again, and she said, oh,
it's three years from now.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Did she say I can't. My campaign's a bust?
Speaker 8 (32:55):
Aha?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
It was, it always will be.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
And nevertheless, you know, she said that she is focused
on twenty eight and all that.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
I mean, but who doesn't have a marble bust of
them selves? Well, I mean, I mean, come on, well,
don't you have a marble bust?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Actually, Well, are there are busts?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's just me?
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Well, there are there are bus of for you have.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
A marble bust of yourself.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Huh what Okay, there are busts of former Vice presidents
Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and Harris that are still in progress,
with the bust of Vice President j D. Vance to
be commissioned when he exits office.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Okay, so I mean normal, I mean that just kind of.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I mean, is she really the leading presidential contender for
the Democrat Party right now?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
She is the leading contender for the Democrat Party. Gavin
Newsom is in second. None of the above is.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
But does that really prize anyone? I mean, who else
are you going to get Zoe ram Mamdani?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Well, yeah, maybe they will.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I mean it's still early, don't scoff ao Season four
behind none of the above, So yeah, they they probably
will try and get someone like that. But who would
be effective. They've got some other people that could be effective.
Governor of Colorado, he could be effective. Cooper out of
North Carolina, he could be an effection Josh Josh Stein
(34:30):
in Pennsylvania. They could all be effective candidate. Get that
they don't stand a chance of winning the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
But none of them, None of them, I don't care
who they are. You fill in the blank with whoever
name you want. None of them will be able to
point to any successes, policy initiatives, anything that they've done
good for this country whatsoever, other than hating on President Trump,
other than suffering from Trump derangement. Centrome.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Tell you what, let's look at a bright spot.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
I'm doing all right, getting good.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Great.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
So I went down a rabbit hole today on state mottos.
You ever go look at state models?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Is that just the state mottos?
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah? Like the mode of the United States of America
is in God, we trust. You've been a big fan
of that, right.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Well, yeah, it's right above our head.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
So every state in the Union has an official motto.
Some of them have two, which I'm not sure how
you have two official state models, but some of.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Them very enthusiastic.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
A lot of them are in Latin, but for time's sake,
I'm just going to deal with the English translation. So
the first thing I noticed was how many state mottos
referenced God. And I think this is about God.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh my heavens know.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
How about this Arizona. God enriches Colorado. Nothing without providence,
So you get nothing without the blessing of God. Connecticut,
he who transplanted still sustains that model. Goes back to
sixteen sixty two, before Connecticut was a state, just a
British colony. So basically, the people who transport, the one
who transplanted us from Britain here to Connecticut is still
(36:08):
sustaining us in Connecticut. I love that motto. Florida in
God we trust, like the national motto Kentucky, let us
be grateful to God. Ohio, With God, all things are possible.
And South Dakota under God the people rule. I love
all of those referencing God. I think those are all brights.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Oh my, does the left know this because I would
figure that they would try to cancel some of these
states with.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
These Connecticut, Colorado, those are blue states. And because they're
referencing God in their motto, I.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Mean they're clearly establishing a religion by having a motto
that uses the word God in it.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
All right.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
There were several states that talked about liberty or freedom
in their motto. So Delaware liberty and independence, that's their motto.
Iowa are liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain.
Massachusetts by the sword. We seek peace, but peace only
under liberty. New Hampshire live free or die. New Jersey
(37:08):
liberty and prosperity, Pennsylvania Virtue, liberty and independence, Vermont freedom
and unity. West Virginia mountaineers are always free, and the
State of Virginia is similar. It's just a little bit
more violent and says thus always to tyrants.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
You know.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
And what's interesting is, of course, as these states were
founded and these mottoes were adopted, they were all in
the style or certainly all wanting to be more like
the federal government. And of course the federal government's motto
in God we Trust was not adopted until nineteen fifty eight.
(37:43):
So I can't go back to the founding of this country.
But when the founders, let's go back to the founding
of this country. When the founders said our rights come
from God, not from kings, not from politicians, not from
government bureaucrats, they were laying down the most revolutionary eye
in human history. And that phrase, in God we Trust
(38:06):
means authority above government, not inside it. It means government
is accountable, not supreme right. It means your rights aren't
from Washington or from your state capital. They are gifts
from Almighty God. And that is the antidote to tyranny,
because when the state believes it is God.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Try, oh my Lord, that's what Mamdani thinks. So Mamdanni
is literally a praise God with government. He thinks he's
now God in New York. And that is tyranny.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Because if our rights do come from man, then what
man gives man can take away.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And probably will and does. But I think it's a
bright spot. There's so many states that have a model
that talks about God and about the respect of liberty
and freedom.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
You are listening to American Ground Radio.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio. Stephen Paul Lewis, what's up.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
But if you're not happy in this country, get out,
get out a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
You've got it.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
No, no, you look, let me just tell you something.
As as the son of an Italian immigrant, my father,
my grandparents also immigrants to this country. They loved this country.
They bled red, white, and blue. America represented to them
the American dream, the opportunity, I mean, the opportunity to
(39:53):
move from poverty to prosperity in one generation.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And if you're here.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
And you don't appreciate the opportunity, the blessings that this
country and it's people offer you, then get out. I
mean seriously, and I and I mean that because if
you don't love where you live, and I know there's
a lot of folks living in poverty all across the country,
(40:22):
all across the world, well.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
I mean they're people that just are going through things.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
But if you moved here for a better life, okay,
and you don't love this country, okay, go back home.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
No in yeah, go back home.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
And there's no it's no hard feelings.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's okay.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
It didn't work out for you. You're not that into us.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
It's okay. It's time to move on.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So basically, if you came here and you aren't happy,
then it's time to say whoa whoa. When I say whoa, ah,
I mean whoa. On December fifth, twenty fifteen, Ohio State
trooper Brettlee pulled over care Relief Slavens after she was
speeding and failing to signal. During the traffic stop, became
(41:04):
obvious that the problem was Kimberly was intoxicated. She's been
drinking all night before was still impaired by the morning.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Worst.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
This was kimberly second time we'd be pulled over for
impair driving in six months. It was the wake up
call she needed. Kimberly realized she had a drinking problem,
set out to get help, and one year later, she
walked into the Ohio State Patrol Post eighty three with
the handwritten card for Sergeant Lee, thanking him for pulling
her over and changing her life. And every year since,
Onmber fifth, she delivers another handwritten card to Sergeant Lee
(41:33):
to continue to thank him. This year, it's been ten
years sober for Kimberly.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Sometimes it is darkest before the dawn.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
May your pursuit of happiness bring you joy.
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