December 30, 2025 • 41 mins
You're listening to American Ground Radio with Stephen Parr and Louis R. Avallone. This is the full show for December 29, 2025.
0:30 The Trump administration is making it clear that nothing is off the table — including student loans. After years of COVID-era pauses and repeated promises of mass loan forgiveness under Democrats, the Department of Education is restarting enforcement in a big way. Beginning January 7, 2026, borrowers who have been in default for at least 270 days will start receiving wage-garnishment notices, with up to 15% of their pay withheld after a mandatory 30-day warning period. This move is about restoring accountability after Washington trained millions of borrowers to believe student loans would never have to be repaid.
Federal control of student lending exploded college costs, trapped borrowers in debt they can’t discharge through bankruptcy, and unfairly shifted the burden onto taxpayers — especially working-class Americans who paid their loans responsibly, chose cheaper schools, or skipped college entirely. Critics warn it could anger some young voters, but others see it as long-overdue fairness: if you borrowed the money, you repay it. The larger message is unmistakable — consequences are back, and the federal government may finally be stepping out of the student loan business altogether.
9:30 Plus, we cover the Top 3 Things You Need to Know.
- The US struck a Venezuelan port over the weekend.
- The department of Justice says the suspect in the attempted bombings of both the Republican and Democratic National Headquarters in Washington D.C. on January 5th, 2021 has confessed.
- California has dropped its lawsuit against the Trump Administration for pulling funding from it's high speed train project.
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13:00 An independent journalist’s reporting is putting a harsh spotlight on staggering incompetence and massive fraud inside Minnesota’s daycare subsidy system. YouTuber Nick Shirley released video showing dozens of state-funded daycare centers, primarily in Minneapolis’ Somali community, that are allegedly being paid to care for large numbers of children, in some cases as many as 95 per location, despite no children being visible on site. If accurate, the scale of the alleged fraud could total hundreds of millions of dollars.
While some aspects of Shirley’s approach have drawn criticism for being overly sensational, the core reporting raises serious questions the state has yet to answer. Locked doors, blacked-out windows, and empty facilities don’t automatically prove wrongdoing, but the absence of clear evidence that these centers are operating as claimed is alarming. Compounding the issue is Governor Tim Walz’s shifting response — initially dismissing calls for scrutiny as racist, only for his office later to claim the state has been investigating the issue for years. The contradiction fuels concerns that political defensiveness, rather than transparency, has defined Minnesota’s handling of the situation.
16:00 American Mamas Teri Netterville and Kimberly Burleson tackle a timeless and uncomfortable question: do people ever really grow out of being bullies? Drawing from personal experience, the Mamas reflect on how bullying doesn’t always disappear with age — it often just changes form. From middle school hallways to college campuses and even retirement communities, the same cliques, cruelty, and power plays can resurface decades later.
The conversation explores the difference between “mean girls” and true bullying, and how time and perspective can turn anger into compassion — especially for those who do the work to grow and evolve.
If you'd like to ask our American Mamas a question, go to our website, AmericanGroundRadio.com/mamas and click on the Ask the Mamas button.
23:00 Newly declassified documents confirm what many suspected about the 2022 FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago: even the FBI did not believe it had probable cause, but moved forward anyway under intense pressure from the Biden Justice Department. Agents raised concerns about the legality and optics of the raid, yet those objections were dismissed in a single-minded effort to “get Trump,” regardless of constitutional limits or institutional damage.
26:30 We Dig Deep into new data that challenges a long-standing talking point on the left about illegal immigrant crime. According to a New York Post column by Dr. John Lott Jr., Department of Homeland Security data show
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
I tell you the Trump administration, nothing is off limits.
If it is inefficient, if it is incompetent, if it
is a violation of the law. I mean they're going
after it. I mean they even student loans, okay, the
bane of the federal government's existence.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Well, this is what Joe Biden kept trying to forgive.
The Democrats been trying to forgive student loans, to give
people in the upper middle class a financial break at
the expense of the rest of the country.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, beginning January the seventh of twenty twenty six, so
mere days from now, the US Department of Education will
begin sending out the first wage garnishment notices to borrowers
wow whose federal student loans are in default, meaning they
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haven't made a payment in at least two hundred and
seventy days.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Well, and the federal government stopped payments on student loans
during the COVID lockdowns from twenty twenty through at least
twenty twenty three. They just kept saying, well, you don't
have to pay, you don't have to pay, you don't
to pay, and so people got used to not paying.
It's kind of they never have to pay again.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's kind of like when the federal government said, you know,
if you're illegal and you want to come across the border,
it's okay, just it's okay, come on, come on, come on,
we'll follow the law. And we did this for decades,
right and here we are. But back to the case
at hand. Okay, So if you have not made if
you have a current student loan that is delinquent that
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you haven't made any payment on in two hundred and
in at least two hundred and seventy days, right, the
Trump administration will give a notice and a mandatory thirty
day waiting period will pass before they will go allegedly
to your employer and order by law that your employer
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withhold up to fifteen percent of wages to satisfy the
overdue date. And this is the overdue debt. I should
say this is one of.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
The real tragedies of the federal government taking over the
student loan business. One. By them taking over, they greatly
expanded it and so people who otherwise wouldn't have qualified
for student loan got these, which means they were getting
student loans that were larger than that they could reasonably
be expected to pay back. I mean, if you're getting
a student loan for eighty thousand dollars to study seventeenth
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century French literature, well, you may really enjoy that, but
you ain't gonna be able to pay it back. If
you're getting a student loan that's larger than what your
expected paycheck would be because of the degree is this
is a negative value and maybe you should have gone
into economics or finance rather than into whatever it was
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you went into. Well, but because of federal government has
taken over the student loan industry, you cannot declare bankruptcy
and get out from under it. There is no escape
from student loans. When the government runs it. The government
is gonna get paid one way.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Or the other.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Whereas if there were student loans being done by the
private sector as it used to be, and you got
into financial situations and to find out that the degree
that you got wasn't worth what the loan was worth,
you could declare bankruptcy and get out of it, and
it would have been the bank eating that, not you.
But because the federal government's into it, man, they just
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get to put their thumb on you. And this is
part of the way we've got to get the federal government.
We've got to get the Department of Education out of
student loans. It's driving at the cost of college, is
making it unaffordable. It's making it unaffordable even for people
who get the student loans, because you're not going to
be able to pay it back later on.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But see, and that what we're talking about right now
really the economics of it all. But think talk about
the politics for just a moment, okay, because I think
there are a lot of folks who may be thinking, oh,
we're going to alienate, you know, Maga, Republicans are going
to alienate all of these young voters because there were
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lots of folks promised by the Biden administration, and frankly
it was floated in other presidential administrations like Obama's.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Been a Democrat talking point for a while.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
About mass loan forgiveness, right, zero consequences, et cetera, et.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Cetera, amnesty for bilking the government.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, but if you look at that, and I agree,
there are going to be some who feel betrayed that,
you know, but we were told, we were told that
we wouldn't have to pay this back, and we were
told that government.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Democrats who didn't have the authority or the power to
do it. Donald Trump never once said we should we
should give amnesty for student loans. So if you feel
by Donald betrayed by Donald Trump, then you weren't paying
attention to what the man was saying.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But but look, I can see where there would be
a certain demographic or a certain subset of the young
voters in this country that would be very upset. But
there is also going to be I think an even
greater subset of young voters who will not be alienated.
Who actually may cheer this on because they are They
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are the ones who paid their loans responsibly, who worked
multiple jobs, who maybe went to cheaper universities.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Or who didn't go to college at all because they
need went into the into the workforce and started making money.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They went into the trades and didn't. They don't want
to subsidize the upper you know, upper income children or
the children of the upper income demographic.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
If I'm if I'm working in trades, I'm working for
a big company in the trades, right, Why should my
salary go to bail out the middle manager who is
supervising me that person for their college Why should I
be paying for that person's college loans when what I
did was I went and learned how to weld. Just
because that person's running my schedule and that person's making
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sure that I'm clocking in on time, that doesn't mean
that I should be paying for their college degree. If
they spend more money on their college degree, then their
college degree was worth as a welder. That's not my responsibility,
it's not my problem. I didn't tell that person to
go do that. I didn't send them to that school.
I didn't hold a gun to their head and say
you better get in debt. So why should I be
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responsible for paying that back?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Now, this is going to send shock waves all across
the country because, look, liberalism depends on separating people from
their consequences, from the consequence.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Does Liberalism is about free speech? Liberalism is true. Liberalism
is what this country was founded on, individual liberties. But
with individual liberties comes individual responsibilities. When you separate the
concept of liberalism from the concept of individual responsibility, that's
where you end up with leftism. That's where you end
up with socialism, communism, totalitarianism.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So yes, I think some young voters will be angry,
but I think others will see something very refreshing, and
that is a government finally willing to say that fairness
runs both ways. If you borrow the money and you
get the education, then you pay it back.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
But we should also be saying that government should stop
giving out the loans altogether. This should go back to
the private sector. The government has no business giving out
home loans, the government has no business giving out student loans.
All it's done in those processes is drive up the
cost of all of those things. We've got to get
the government out of those things. That's how you get
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socialism and communism creeping in to our republic.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
But you know, in the story that I was reading,
it said something about that the federal government would be
sending out notices to about one thousand borrowers that are delinquent.
I think there's a lot more. I think a thousand
borrowers who are delinquent just the beginning, just the tip
of the iceberg. Absolutely, let's get the.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Top two things you need to know before tomorrow. First
thing you need to know before tomorrow the US struck
of Venezuelan port. Over the weekend, reports came out of
Venezuela that there was a large explosion along a dock
in that country. President Trump confirmed the explosion was part
of an attack by the United States against drug runners
(09:41):
in the area. During a joint press conference with Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin yet Net and Yahoo, President Trump said, quote,
they load the boats up with drugs, so we hit
all the boats, and now we hit the area. It's
the implementation area. That's where they implement, and there's no
longer there. The Navy and US Coast Guard have been
blowing up drug runner boats in the Caribbean and the
Pacific Goshen for several months as part of the president's
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push to apply more and more pressure to the Maduro regime.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out
there that say this whole you know, we're going to
hit these drug boats is just cover for the fact
that we want regime change in Venezuela as the United States,
and we want Regeemeed change because we don't feel like
Maduro is an Israel supporter.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Now it's not that, it's that Maduro is a communist
dictator who should not be in office anymore because he's
already voted out. Second thing, you know, for all, Department
of Justice says the suspect in the attempt to bombash
to both the Republican and Democrat National headquarters in Washington,
d C. On January fifth, twenty twenty one, has confessed.
US Attorney Janine Piro announced that while interrogating the suspect,
Brian Cole Junior, he quote admitted that he was responsible
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for the devices and gave a detailed confession to the
charged offenses. Cole allegedly said he was frustrated with both
political parties in the aftermath of the twenty twenty election.
The Biden administration went four years not naming a suspect
in that case, but after President Trump was back in
the office, his FBI made the bombing case of priority.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So the question is was this guy acting alone?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
May maybe not, I'm not exactly sure. And the third
thing in you know, well for a while, California has
dropped his lawsuit against the Trump's administration for pulling funding
from its high speed train project. California's project has been
working on construction to build a high speed train in
the state's Central Valley since twenty thirteen, but so far
they haven't created a single rail. The project is billions
of dollars over budget and a decade behind schedule, so
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President Trump pulled federal funding for the project Earlier this year.
California sued to recoup four billion dollars in federal funds
that were withheld, but this week California drawn through Lewis
lawsuit claiming the federal government was not a quote reliable partner.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh in California knows a lot about that.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
You're the one who hasn't done what you said you
would do. You're billions of dollars over budget and they're
behind in the government.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The federal government's unreliable.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
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Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean, the incompetence of what is going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
It's staggering.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It is staggering that independent journalist YouTuber ye Nick Shirley.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Surely thank you, yeah, surely.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean you saw the video, and for many of
our listeners, if you did not, I'd encourage you to
go look it up, go watch the whole search for
Nick Shirley and Minnesota. And look, it's a young man
and there's no sensationalism here.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
There's no there's some sensations.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh, come on, all he was doing he walked up
to daycare centers in Minnesota, knocked on the door. Yeah,
there are many of these daycare centers where the State
of Minnesota said there were you know, maybe as many
as ninety five children that were being paid for by
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the State of Minnesotota. Right, there's no children in sight
at these day daycare centers. And there are dozens of
these daycare centers all across Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
No children, well, not all across Minnesota, basically just in Minneapolis,
in the Somali community in Minneapo.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
What is you're talking about? Hundreds of millions of dollars
your fraud?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
You are talking about that? I say, there is no
There is a little bit of sensationalism. And the way
he was interacting with some of the people there, not
not necessarily just him, but the guy that was with him,
the witness that was with him. That guy was a
little sensationalist. If you were to go, if you were
to try and do what he did as a reporter,
and I did I used to do this in my
career all the time. If you go up to an
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elementary school or a daycare, especially nowadays, and you try
and open the door, it better be locked. So for
him to say, oh, the door's locked, therefore this is
a fraudulent business.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, there's no one. But when they let him inside,
there's nothing inside. There are no windows. These are windowless buildings.
Well no, no, some of them.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Some of them were. They did have windows, The windows
were just blacked out from the outside so you couldn't
look in. Again, if you're running a daycare, you may
not want people looking into it, so there is some
of it. Look. I think the vast majority of his
report is absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I thought he was.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I wish the style in which he reported it was
slightly different. I think it would have given the story
more credibility if he had been If you point out
both the things that support your argument and the things
that don't support your argument in the story, if you
are more dedicated to being balanced like that, it actually
lends more credibility to the story.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
All so, Governor Wallas, of course, you know, weeks ago
when folks were wanting to look into this alleged fraud
in these daycare centers in his home state. He said, Oh,
you're racist if you want to look into this and
you're questioning some Mollie's because you know, you don't like
the color of their skin.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
But then this week his press office says, we've been
looking at this for years. Well, which was it? Are
you racist or have you already.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Been doing that?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
We got a question for American mama's. Dear mamas, do
people ever grow out of being bullies?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, let's ask are A Merck and Mama's Mama Mama.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
And joining us now our American mama's Terry Ediville and
Kimberly Burlison.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Uh, I would like to hope.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
So, I mean, you guys didn't have bullies growing up?
Who would bully the Spink sisters?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I got.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I did have that experience one year. I had a
one year experience of having a bully. But it was
kind of like the most random thing. I won't even
go into it, but it was pretty horrible. And then
I go to Louisiana Tech and that same bully happened
to be at Louisiana Tech.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And this is like six years in between.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Right, and her life was so sad that I felt
so sad for her, and I was thriving, you know,
so that was kind of like that retribution in a way,
you know, but it still made me sad.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Was she still a bully?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
She was a lost soul? Because it made me understand
more so what was going on with her?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Okay, just kind of lost.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I was. I was ready to kill her, Yeah, she was.
I saw this real just the other day, and this
woman was talking about moving into a retirement community, these
fifty five plus community, and she said, it's so funny
because a lot of the people that were bullies in
high school just grow up to be bullies in these communities.
She said, the same kind of cliques exist, the same
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kind of rude sitting with your people versus other people,
just really rude. And I was talking to my girlfriend
about it. She used to be the vice president of
several retirement communities in Sarasota, Florida, and she said, what
I witnessed would put real housewives of any state to
shame for.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
People in nursing homes retirement.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yes, she said it horrible.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Yes, Well, you hear a lot of times people will
say mean girls turn into mean mamas. You know, that's
a phrase. And it's so interesting because our mom would
tell us our entire lives. She was like, you know,
she trusted us more than adults an hour gut and
she would tell us that. She was like, as you grow,
which you'll discover is a lot of adults, they're just
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little kids in big bodies. They haven't evolved, they haven't
learned from things, so they continue being who they were
as kids. That's so so true. Summer asked me one time,
she said, have you ever because I mean, it's just
I think when social media came along, it kind of
got worse for a lot of especially girls. And she said,
were you ever bullied? And I was like, if I was,
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I didn't know it, I really like, And she's like,
what do you mean. I said, if I was, if
they if they were mean to me, or if they
were you know, dising me. I just thought they were
having a bad day.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Well, there's a difference between just mean girls and bullying, right,
you know what I mean, There's a whole different thing there.
True bullying is very disturbing. Mean girl is like, you know,
our girls dealt with mean girls always, you know, but
bullying and mingirl two different kinds of things.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
When Kimberly was in seventh grade and had this bully,
dad wanted to go fight her dad like she could.
Oh my god, but Mom, She's like not, you know, no, no,
no no. But it was so interesting because you know,
we actually had to move the next year, so not
because of that, not because of that, but business. But
we moved after that, and it was it was like
five or six years later whenever we went to college
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and we saw her and literally I had this. You know,
Kimberly was over it. She felt sorry for the girl,
like she clearly she has. I still wanted to just
go over there and grab her by her shirt and say,
do you know what you did to my apology right now?
I need you to apologize to her right now. I
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think when you're the person you're like, you evolve from
it and you learn from me and you become more
compassionate when it's somebody. When it happens to somebody that
you love and care about, it's harder, Like if it
happens to your child, it's harder than if it had
happened to you. You know what.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
It was such a short period of time, and yeah,
it was very traumatic at that moment, but it was
just a glip in my life. But that one story
that I shared with my own children, right, they became
like these leaders in their own school, and when they
saw someone else kind of dealing with that, they were
the first ones to stand up and nip it in
the bud. And so I feel like it was meant
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to be.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
It was. I find it interesting that that they're saying
that they still have bullies in these these retirement communities.
My grandfather used to have a phrase he said, no
matter what you are, you only become more so. And
I thought, man, that's that's rough. But if you don't
actually take time to work on yourself to become a
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better version of yourself, then yeah, I can see how
you simply become more and more of the worst aspects
of yourself. And boy, it's why it's so important that
you need to spend time dealing with whatever the demons
you had growing up. I mean, whatever whatever problems the
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world has given you, you've got to work on that.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
My mom said, so you can evolve from it, and
they just I'm a better person. And when you grow
up with mom or parents that tell you that you
see the world in a different way. Yes, you truly
begin to see, whether it's college or after as adult,
you think something hurt this person like they are hurting.
There's no other reason that you treat someone else in
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a way that is so brutally, brutal and terrible, unless
you've got some issue going on inside. But to have
your mom's words ringing your ear like your grandfather's words
helps you go, Okay, it's not about me, this is
about them.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Boy, that's a sad story. If you like to ask
for American mom is a question, go to our website
America Groud Radio dot com, slash Mama's and click on
the ask of the Mama's button. Terry nut Ifil Kiverly, Brothersten,
thank you so much, Thank you.
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Stephen Parler Lewis Well, we knew this, we knew that
I'm Stephen Parr, and you're Lewis. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
We knew that the federal government did not have probable
cause to do what they did at mar A Lago
when the Biden administration raided mar A Lago, went through
the President's bedroom, went through Baron's bedroom, through the Lania's drawers,
I mean, the whole nine yards. Right, And apparently according
(22:55):
to these newly declassified documents that were reviewed by Fox News, yes,
even the FBI did not believe that it had probable
cause to raid mar A Lago in twenty twenty two. Right,
But they did so anyway because they were getting such
(23:15):
severe pressure from the US DOJ.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
So Merrit Gardland's Department of Justice, which I guess should
be the DOI because it was really a department of injustice.
The way that they treated January sixth DEFENDANTIJ the DOIJ, Yeah,
it's just not funny, though. It was offul funny because
they absolutely denied the civil rights of every January sixth
(23:40):
defendant because they had evidence, exculpatory evidence, video evidence of
what happened on January sixth, and they never gave it
to any single January sixth defendant. And while they were
hiding evidence from every January sixth defendant. They were in
raiding Donald Trump's house to try and trump up evidence
that didn't exist. Remember, they actually brought in folders and
(24:03):
put sticky notes on front of the folders to make
it look like Donald Trump had done something he hadn't done.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And in these documents, I guess one of the officials
was warned saying, look, this isn't going to look good.
And this official said, and I quote, that he did
not give a damn about the optics. He didn't obviously
didn't care about the constitution, doesn't care about legal precedent,
doesn't care about the institutional damage or the country.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
We just got to get Trump, baby, gotta get Trump. See,
that's not justice. Justice is supposed to be blind. Justice
isn't supposed to be okay, treating people differently based upon
who they are, what their name is, or what their
position is in government.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
The law is the law is the law.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
And if you're treating one person differently simply because you
don't like their politics, that's not justice.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's in justice. And who is going to be held
accountable for this?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Nobody?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
See this is the part that drives the American people,
or certain demographic of the American people, those patriots.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's frustrating beyond all guts.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well understand that this is a nation of laws and
not of men.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Because if nobody is punished for the things that were
done under Jack Smith, under Merrick Garland, under Joe Biden,
under Hillary Clinton, if nobody is punished for any of
this stuff under Barack Obama, under James Comey, then it
will happen again.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
No. I mean, look, there's two systems of justice here, right,
because ask yourself, would this raid have happened to anyone else?
Would a former Democratic president have had his home rated
under similar circumstance.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Joe Biden didn't. Joe Biden had documents he wasn't allowed
to have because he was a he was a vice president,
not a president. He had them in an unsecured location
at his home, not a heavily secured place like mar
A Lago, but just a garage in Jersey, in Delaware.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No, this needs to be investigated, and we need to
know who at the DOJ applied the pressure, Who dis Jacksmith,
Who Jack dismissed the probable cause concern Jack Smith? Who
approved the warrant despite the objections.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, Jack Smith at least would have approved the warrant request.
Let's get to a digging deep, going down, down, down.
So I saw an interesting story in the New York
Post this morning from doctor John Lott Junior. We talked
to him, you and I filled in on the Joe
Piscopos show in New York City this morning. This is
one that the folks that we were talking to, and
(26:35):
he has an article. It's called new Data reveals the horrific,
horrific truth about Illegal Immigrant crime. Now, one of the
stories folks on the left likes to tell is that
illegal immigrants, or as they put it, undocumented migrants, commit
crime at a lower rate than natural born American citizens.
But that doesn't square with some of the data that
(26:57):
that doctor Lott discovered. He found that illegal immigrants in
New York State are committing crimes at much higher rates
than American citizens there are. He looked at data from
the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
The department claims that seven one hundred thirteen of those
currently incarcerated in New York State prison and jails are
illegal immigrants. They've been convicted of committing one hundred and
forty eight homicides, seven hundred and seventeen assaults, one hundred
and thirty thirty four burglaries, one hundred and six robberies,
two hundred and thirty five dangerous drug offenses, one hundred
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and fifty two weapons official offenses, and two hundred and
sixty sexual predatory offenses, among other crimes. He then runs
the math and finds that seven one hundred and thirteen
illegal immigrants makes up fourteen percent of the total convicts
in New York jails right now. But they are only
somewhere around three point five to four point one five
(27:55):
percent of the total population of the state of New York.
So they're committing crimes, being convicted of crimes at nearly
three times the average of a New York resident.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
But you know, and I have said this, I think
we've talked about this on the show as well. When
you allow people to come into the country illegally without consequences, right,
what it's doing, it's more than just the immigration policy
of this country, you know, being busted it is. What
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it's doing is it's sending a loud, unmistakable message, and
that is especially to those who came to this country
illegally and that is, the law is optional, and once
the law is optional at the border what laws are offer,
it becomes optional everywhere else.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
And though these numbers don't include the illegal immigrants in
New York Is hiding from federal officials as part of
their sanctuary jurisdiction policies. Because New York State is a
sanctuary state, they will not cooperate with ICE. So they've
got people in their jails that they haven't told ICE about.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
So if you're a criminal, you're going to go to
New You're going to go to New York State someplace
like that.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
If you're a criminal in the country illegally, you're going
to go someplace where you think you can get away
with this. And this is all very expensive for taxpayers.
From the article, while the average costs different cross various facilities,
assuming half of incarcerated illegal immigrants are in state prison
and half are of the remainder are in New York
City jails, implies a cost of well over one billion
(29:27):
dollars per year and possibly as much as one point
four billion dollars a year just to put illegal immigrants
in prison.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And when you think about it, those folks serving time,
they're not working no, they're not contributing to the economy.
They're not providing for their families. So if they have dependents,
right like for example, a wife or children or what have.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Ito, why those people become dependents on the state too.
So now we're giving state welfare money to those folks.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Because in those sanctuary states, every dime of.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
That money is money the states shouldn't have to spend
because those people shouldn't have ever been in New York
in the first place to commit whatever crime they committed.
So you've got one more crime, which means more people
being victimized by it, at three times the rate of
Native New Yorkers. You've got those people now in jail.
We've got to pay to feed them, pay to clothe them,
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pay to house them. We've got to give them free
medical care while they're in jail. All that's very expensive.
And all of this for people that should have never
been in the state in the first place. All of
that is money coming out of the pockets of New
Yorkers and it's not going back to New Yorkers. This
is blown, it's wasted money. This is just one more
(30:46):
reason why President Trump's push to move illegal immigrants out
of the country is good for the entire country. His
moves to get rid of illegal immigrants is even good
for blue states or sanctuary jurisdictions where they don't want
to cooperate with ICE. They're self sabotaging, they're self destroying
(31:06):
their own states. Because if you cooperate with ICE, you
could get these criminals out of the country faster.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Because when the first law you break is rewarded coming
across that border, it won't be the last law. Yeah,
the next one is just that much easier to justify.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
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to American Gram Radio Stephen Power, lewisar, you know, these
folks have lost their minds. There are some groups out
(32:17):
there right now demanding that AT and T HU cancel
its contracts with the federal government, specifically the Department of
Homeland Security, the Customs and Border Protection, and ICE. Okay,
because in the activist imagination, in that vast waste land
(32:40):
that is between their ears, they say enforcing immigration law
is a moral crime, and that anyone who helps the
government do its job like AT and T is now complicit.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Isn't okay?
Speaker 5 (32:56):
If I don't if I don't care what the moral
value I use the people who don't believe in God
is okay, because the majority of people on the left
don't believe in God anymore. And if you don't believe
in God, who is the creator not just of us
in the universe, but also the creator of morality, if
you don't base your morality off of God, then what
(33:17):
are you basing your morality off? And why should I
pay attention to your morality?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Okay? But AT and T and DHS, Yeah, have worked
together for over thirty years.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It's called American Telephone and Telegraph AT and T. That's
what it stands for.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Okay, But if you cancel. If AT and T were
to bow to the crowd, right this crowd, how many of.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Their own employees wouldy have to lay out?
Speaker 7 (33:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
No, that okay, that's fine. No, I mean that's but
there's other providers, there's other wireless providers out there that'll do.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
The work, right, I mean, T Mobile be happy to
jump in. I'm sure somebody else will step in. But again,
you're going to have to fire your own employees. So
is that moral to fire to people of their non
fault of their own to make them lose their job
and the ability to feed their families?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Is that moral? Okay? So here's the logic immigration for
the left. Here, immigration enforcement is bad. Ice and customs
in border patrol are immigration enforcement. Okay, So anyone who
provides services to ice and customs in border enforcement patrol
(34:25):
is bad. Therefore AT and T must be punished for
providing phone service.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Here's my morality. Governments are institute among men to secure
the rights of the people who created the government. The
people say, I have a right to life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness. The government's supposed to be protecting
the rights of the people who created the government, that's
us from other people, either domestically or foreign, who would
take away those rights. Anyone who comes into this country
is doing so in one either to take away my
(34:53):
right to pursue my happiness, or my right to liberty,
or my right to life. So my government's moral job
is to secure our rights away from people who would
come to take it away.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
That's where the mortality comes in. But I mean, where
does this end?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Because if at and T is, it doesn't end.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
You're going to cancel electricity to the federal buildings now
that are housing ice.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yes, that's the nonsense.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Shut off all the water that see, that's their morality.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Let's get to a bright spot.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I'm doing all right, getting degrades.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
There was an article in the Journal of European Economic
Association about the health in the United States. The authors
looked at long term trends in religious participation and compare
that to mortality trends. That's what they found. Quote, in
recent decades, death rates from suicides, drug poisonings, and alcoholic
liver diseases have dramatically increased in the United States. We
(35:52):
show that these deaths of despair begin to increase relative
to trend in the early nineteen nineties, that this this
increase was preceded by a decline in religious participation. What
they're saying is that as people moved away from faith,
that deaths of despair increased. Now there's an article about
(36:15):
this in the Epic Times by a clinical psychologists. He
said practices such as prayer, meditation, and moral self reflection
function as behavioral and neurophysiological training systems strengthening self regulation,
delayed gratification, and emotional stability.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
They do this by.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Repeatedly shifting attention away from impulse and threat, calming stress responses,
and reinforcing neural pathways involved in reflection, restraint, and choice.
When such practices decline at a population level, vulnerability to
addiction and despare increase. So the point here is faith
can help you live longer and live better. That is
(36:57):
one of the benefits of faith.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well, and I think despair grows also when you feel
you are alone, because at the heart of despair is isolation,
the belief that no one sees you, no one cares, cares,
no one is listening, and a lack of faith sometimes
reinforces that lie faith reminds us that we are never alone.
(37:25):
It proclaims that God knows us by name, that he
counts every every tear, every hair on our head. That
you know that. And when people lose faith, they often
lose that sense of that sense of that all of
the comfort of this world cannot fill the emptiness that
(37:49):
is inside right.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Right, and it's that empty No, The article writes, what
is filling the void when spiritual participation is displaced? Social
media provides stimulation without meaning in our tayman provides distraction
without purpose, and medication treats symptoms without restoring identity. Public
health cannot fully address despair while ignoring the soul. Daily
(38:13):
Wire did a similar article interviewing professor of Christian counseling
doctor Greg Gifford. As a Christian, if you're saying, wait
a minute, I need to go my psychologists, my therapist
to help me with my mind, I'm saying no, I
think you should actually go to your church and look
to your pastor and look to the means of grace
that God has provided to bring about mind renewal. Faith
isn't just about the next life, It's about this one,
(38:35):
and science is showing that faith makes this life better
and that is a bright spot.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
And don't turn to artificial intelligence and all the chat
bots out.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
There either, because they don't have a soul.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
They are absolutely souls, but you do, you have a soul.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
You're listening to American Ground Radio.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio. Stephen part of Lewis So.
Nancy Pelosi, yes, she former Speaker of the House.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
In a recent interview, she's just beaming from ear to
ear about how she tore up that speech.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
That was an instruction of government property though it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Was it was a State of the Union address, an
official copy and as Nancy Pelosi, then House Speaker, stood
behind the President of the United States and ripped it up.
And that was not just an insult to Trump, by
the way, that was an insult to the institution. That
speech did not belong to Donald Trump. No, it belonged
(39:53):
to the American people.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
The State of it's a constitutionally mandated document.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
It's not a campaign rally. The State of the Union
is not a campaign route, it's not a partisan prop
It's a constitutionally grounded moment where the President reports to
Congress and by extension, to the nation on the state
of the country right. And when Nancy Pelosi tore up
that speech, she wasn't just resisting Trump. She was mocking
(40:18):
the office. She was disrespecting the process, She was demeaning
the House of Representatives.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
That she was.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Violating the constitutions. She was destroying the state of the
Union addressed from the President that was required to be
delivered to her by the Constitution itself.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
And now she's bragging about it. Years later, she's bragging
about it.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
That is the real disgrace.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But see the problem with Nancy Pelosi is she doesn't
feel shamed. She's not ashamed of thinks she should be
ashamed of. And that just makes me say.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Whoa when I say whoa?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ah mean whoa.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
This week in one thousand, four hundred thirty five couples
in Washington, DC got together and set a new world record.
They assembled at DC's Anthem Row under a giant green
ball designed to look like a massive missletoe. Of course,
the tradition goes that couples are supposed to kiss under mistletoe,
and so that's exactly what these one thousand, four unt
to thirty five couples did. They kissed their significant others
for five seconds, setting a new world record. In the process,
(41:21):
they shattered the previous missletoe kissing records set by four
hundred and eighty couples in Saint Louis in twenty nineteen.
One of the organizers, Jared Price, posted video on Instagram
saying last night felt bigger than a world record attempt.
It was a reminder of what happens when a city
shows up for joy, love and community above all us.
Yeah you can't beat that, right, Probably not. They you
(41:42):
pursued a happiness, Bring you joy.
American Ground Radio with whuis our Avalonian? Stephen Parr, protecting
American values faster than Democrats can defend felons and the
illegal terrorist gang members.
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We choose to go to the moon and do the
other thing, not because they are evey, but because they
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It is time for us to realize that we're too
great a nation to limit ourselves to small dreams.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I have a dream, but one day this nation will
rise up, live out the true meaning of its creed.
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
I tell you the Trump administration, nothing is off limits.
If it is inefficient, if it is incompetent, if it
is a violation of the law. I mean they're going
after it. I mean they even student loans, okay, the
bane of the federal government's existence.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Well, this is what Joe Biden kept trying to forgive.
The Democrats been trying to forgive student loans, to give
people in the upper middle class a financial break at
the expense of the rest of the country.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, beginning January the seventh of twenty twenty six, so
mere days from now, the US Department of Education will
begin sending out the first wage garnishment notices to borrowers
wow whose federal student loans are in default, meaning they
(01:55):
haven't made a payment in at least two hundred and
seventy days.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Well, and the federal government stopped payments on student loans
during the COVID lockdowns from twenty twenty through at least
twenty twenty three. They just kept saying, well, you don't
have to pay, you don't have to pay, you don't
to pay, and so people got used to not paying.
It's kind of they never have to pay again.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's kind of like when the federal government said, you know,
if you're illegal and you want to come across the border,
it's okay, just it's okay, come on, come on, come on,
we'll follow the law. And we did this for decades,
right and here we are. But back to the case
at hand. Okay, So if you have not made if
you have a current student loan that is delinquent that
(02:40):
you haven't made any payment on in two hundred and
in at least two hundred and seventy days, right, the
Trump administration will give a notice and a mandatory thirty
day waiting period will pass before they will go allegedly
to your employer and order by law that your employer
(03:04):
withhold up to fifteen percent of wages to satisfy the
overdue date. And this is the overdue debt. I should
say this is one of.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
The real tragedies of the federal government taking over the
student loan business. One. By them taking over, they greatly
expanded it and so people who otherwise wouldn't have qualified
for student loan got these, which means they were getting
student loans that were larger than that they could reasonably
be expected to pay back. I mean, if you're getting
a student loan for eighty thousand dollars to study seventeenth
(03:37):
century French literature, well, you may really enjoy that, but
you ain't gonna be able to pay it back. If
you're getting a student loan that's larger than what your
expected paycheck would be because of the degree is this
is a negative value and maybe you should have gone
into economics or finance rather than into whatever it was
(03:57):
you went into. Well, but because of federal government has
taken over the student loan industry, you cannot declare bankruptcy
and get out from under it. There is no escape
from student loans. When the government runs it. The government
is gonna get paid one way.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Or the other.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Whereas if there were student loans being done by the
private sector as it used to be, and you got
into financial situations and to find out that the degree
that you got wasn't worth what the loan was worth,
you could declare bankruptcy and get out of it, and
it would have been the bank eating that, not you.
But because the federal government's into it, man, they just
(04:38):
get to put their thumb on you. And this is
part of the way we've got to get the federal government.
We've got to get the Department of Education out of
student loans. It's driving at the cost of college, is
making it unaffordable. It's making it unaffordable even for people
who get the student loans, because you're not going to
be able to pay it back later on.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But see, and that what we're talking about right now
really the economics of it all. But think talk about
the politics for just a moment, okay, because I think
there are a lot of folks who may be thinking, oh,
we're going to alienate, you know, Maga, Republicans are going
to alienate all of these young voters because there were
(05:18):
lots of folks promised by the Biden administration, and frankly
it was floated in other presidential administrations like Obama's.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Been a Democrat talking point for a while.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
About mass loan forgiveness, right, zero consequences, et cetera, et.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Cetera, amnesty for bilking the government.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, but if you look at that, and I agree,
there are going to be some who feel betrayed that,
you know, but we were told, we were told that
we wouldn't have to pay this back, and we were
told that government.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Democrats who didn't have the authority or the power to
do it. Donald Trump never once said we should we
should give amnesty for student loans. So if you feel
by Donald betrayed by Donald Trump, then you weren't paying
attention to what the man was saying.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But but look, I can see where there would be
a certain demographic or a certain subset of the young
voters in this country that would be very upset. But
there is also going to be I think an even
greater subset of young voters who will not be alienated.
Who actually may cheer this on because they are They
(06:29):
are the ones who paid their loans responsibly, who worked
multiple jobs, who maybe went to cheaper universities.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Or who didn't go to college at all because they
need went into the into the workforce and started making money.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They went into the trades and didn't. They don't want
to subsidize the upper you know, upper income children or
the children of the upper income demographic.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
If I'm if I'm working in trades, I'm working for
a big company in the trades, right, Why should my
salary go to bail out the middle manager who is
supervising me that person for their college Why should I
be paying for that person's college loans when what I
did was I went and learned how to weld. Just
because that person's running my schedule and that person's making
(07:19):
sure that I'm clocking in on time, that doesn't mean
that I should be paying for their college degree. If
they spend more money on their college degree, then their
college degree was worth as a welder. That's not my responsibility,
it's not my problem. I didn't tell that person to
go do that. I didn't send them to that school.
I didn't hold a gun to their head and say
you better get in debt. So why should I be
(07:41):
responsible for paying that back?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Now, this is going to send shock waves all across
the country because, look, liberalism depends on separating people from
their consequences, from the consequence.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Does Liberalism is about free speech? Liberalism is true. Liberalism
is what this country was founded on, individual liberties. But
with individual liberties comes individual responsibilities. When you separate the
concept of liberalism from the concept of individual responsibility, that's
where you end up with leftism. That's where you end
up with socialism, communism, totalitarianism.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So yes, I think some young voters will be angry,
but I think others will see something very refreshing, and
that is a government finally willing to say that fairness
runs both ways. If you borrow the money and you
get the education, then you pay it back.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
But we should also be saying that government should stop
giving out the loans altogether. This should go back to
the private sector. The government has no business giving out
home loans, the government has no business giving out student loans.
All it's done in those processes is drive up the
cost of all of those things. We've got to get
the government out of those things. That's how you get
(08:56):
socialism and communism creeping in to our republic.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
But you know, in the story that I was reading,
it said something about that the federal government would be
sending out notices to about one thousand borrowers that are delinquent.
I think there's a lot more. I think a thousand
borrowers who are delinquent just the beginning, just the tip
of the iceberg. Absolutely, let's get the.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Top two things you need to know before tomorrow. First
thing you need to know before tomorrow the US struck
of Venezuelan port. Over the weekend, reports came out of
Venezuela that there was a large explosion along a dock
in that country. President Trump confirmed the explosion was part
of an attack by the United States against drug runners
(09:41):
in the area. During a joint press conference with Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin yet Net and Yahoo, President Trump said, quote,
they load the boats up with drugs, so we hit
all the boats, and now we hit the area. It's
the implementation area. That's where they implement, and there's no
longer there. The Navy and US Coast Guard have been
blowing up drug runner boats in the Caribbean and the
Pacific Goshen for several months as part of the president's
(10:01):
push to apply more and more pressure to the Maduro regime.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out
there that say this whole you know, we're going to
hit these drug boats is just cover for the fact
that we want regime change in Venezuela as the United States,
and we want Regeemeed change because we don't feel like
Maduro is an Israel supporter.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Now it's not that, it's that Maduro is a communist
dictator who should not be in office anymore because he's
already voted out. Second thing, you know, for all, Department
of Justice says the suspect in the attempt to bombash
to both the Republican and Democrat National headquarters in Washington,
d C. On January fifth, twenty twenty one, has confessed.
US Attorney Janine Piro announced that while interrogating the suspect,
Brian Cole Junior, he quote admitted that he was responsible
(10:49):
for the devices and gave a detailed confession to the
charged offenses. Cole allegedly said he was frustrated with both
political parties in the aftermath of the twenty twenty election.
The Biden administration went four years not naming a suspect
in that case, but after President Trump was back in
the office, his FBI made the bombing case of priority.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So the question is was this guy acting alone?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
May maybe not, I'm not exactly sure. And the third
thing in you know, well for a while, California has
dropped his lawsuit against the Trump's administration for pulling funding
from its high speed train project. California's project has been
working on construction to build a high speed train in
the state's Central Valley since twenty thirteen, but so far
they haven't created a single rail. The project is billions
of dollars over budget and a decade behind schedule, so
(11:30):
President Trump pulled federal funding for the project Earlier this year.
California sued to recoup four billion dollars in federal funds
that were withheld, but this week California drawn through Lewis
lawsuit claiming the federal government was not a quote reliable partner.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh in California knows a lot about that.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
You're the one who hasn't done what you said you
would do. You're billions of dollars over budget and they're
behind in the government.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The federal government's unreliable.
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Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean, the incompetence of what is going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
It's staggering.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It is staggering that independent journalist YouTuber ye Nick Shirley.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Surely thank you, yeah, surely.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean you saw the video, and for many of
our listeners, if you did not, I'd encourage you to
go look it up, go watch the whole search for
Nick Shirley and Minnesota. And look, it's a young man
and there's no sensationalism here.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
There's no there's some sensations.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh, come on, all he was doing he walked up
to daycare centers in Minnesota, knocked on the door. Yeah,
there are many of these daycare centers where the State
of Minnesota said there were you know, maybe as many
as ninety five children that were being paid for by
(13:43):
the State of Minnesotota. Right, there's no children in sight
at these day daycare centers. And there are dozens of
these daycare centers all across Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
No children, well, not all across Minnesota, basically just in Minneapolis,
in the Somali community in Minneapo.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
What is you're talking about? Hundreds of millions of dollars
your fraud?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
You are talking about that? I say, there is no
There is a little bit of sensationalism. And the way
he was interacting with some of the people there, not
not necessarily just him, but the guy that was with him,
the witness that was with him. That guy was a
little sensationalist. If you were to go, if you were
to try and do what he did as a reporter,
and I did I used to do this in my
career all the time. If you go up to an
(14:26):
elementary school or a daycare, especially nowadays, and you try
and open the door, it better be locked. So for
him to say, oh, the door's locked, therefore this is
a fraudulent business.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, there's no one. But when they let him inside,
there's nothing inside. There are no windows. These are windowless buildings.
Well no, no, some of them.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Some of them were. They did have windows, The windows
were just blacked out from the outside so you couldn't
look in. Again, if you're running a daycare, you may
not want people looking into it, so there is some
of it. Look. I think the vast majority of his
report is absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I thought he was.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I wish the style in which he reported it was
slightly different. I think it would have given the story
more credibility if he had been If you point out
both the things that support your argument and the things
that don't support your argument in the story, if you
are more dedicated to being balanced like that, it actually
lends more credibility to the story.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
All so, Governor Wallas, of course, you know, weeks ago
when folks were wanting to look into this alleged fraud
in these daycare centers in his home state. He said, Oh,
you're racist if you want to look into this and
you're questioning some Mollie's because you know, you don't like
the color of their skin.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
But then this week his press office says, we've been
looking at this for years. Well, which was it? Are
you racist or have you already.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Been doing that?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
We got a question for American mama's. Dear mamas, do
people ever grow out of being bullies?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, let's ask are A Merck and Mama's Mama Mama.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
And joining us now our American mama's Terry Ediville and
Kimberly Burlison.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Uh, I would like to hope.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
So, I mean, you guys didn't have bullies growing up?
Who would bully the Spink sisters?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I got.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I did have that experience one year. I had a
one year experience of having a bully. But it was
kind of like the most random thing. I won't even
go into it, but it was pretty horrible. And then
I go to Louisiana Tech and that same bully happened
to be at Louisiana Tech.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And this is like six years in between.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Right, and her life was so sad that I felt
so sad for her, and I was thriving, you know,
so that was kind of like that retribution in a way,
you know, but it still made me sad.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Was she still a bully?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
She was a lost soul? Because it made me understand
more so what was going on with her?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Okay, just kind of lost.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I was. I was ready to kill her, Yeah, she was.
I saw this real just the other day, and this
woman was talking about moving into a retirement community, these
fifty five plus community, and she said, it's so funny
because a lot of the people that were bullies in
high school just grow up to be bullies in these communities.
She said, the same kind of cliques exist, the same
(17:17):
kind of rude sitting with your people versus other people,
just really rude. And I was talking to my girlfriend
about it. She used to be the vice president of
several retirement communities in Sarasota, Florida, and she said, what
I witnessed would put real housewives of any state to
shame for.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
People in nursing homes retirement.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yes, she said it horrible.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Yes, Well, you hear a lot of times people will
say mean girls turn into mean mamas. You know, that's
a phrase. And it's so interesting because our mom would
tell us our entire lives. She was like, you know,
she trusted us more than adults an hour gut and
she would tell us that. She was like, as you grow,
which you'll discover is a lot of adults, they're just
(18:07):
little kids in big bodies. They haven't evolved, they haven't
learned from things, so they continue being who they were
as kids. That's so so true. Summer asked me one time,
she said, have you ever because I mean, it's just
I think when social media came along, it kind of
got worse for a lot of especially girls. And she said,
were you ever bullied? And I was like, if I was,
(18:27):
I didn't know it, I really like, And she's like,
what do you mean. I said, if I was, if
they if they were mean to me, or if they
were you know, dising me. I just thought they were
having a bad day.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Well, there's a difference between just mean girls and bullying, right,
you know what I mean, There's a whole different thing there.
True bullying is very disturbing. Mean girl is like, you know,
our girls dealt with mean girls always, you know, but
bullying and mingirl two different kinds of things.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
When Kimberly was in seventh grade and had this bully,
dad wanted to go fight her dad like she could.
Oh my god, but Mom, She's like not, you know, no, no,
no no. But it was so interesting because you know,
we actually had to move the next year, so not
because of that, not because of that, but business. But
we moved after that, and it was it was like
five or six years later whenever we went to college
(19:13):
and we saw her and literally I had this. You know,
Kimberly was over it. She felt sorry for the girl,
like she clearly she has. I still wanted to just
go over there and grab her by her shirt and say,
do you know what you did to my apology right now?
I need you to apologize to her right now. I
(19:33):
think when you're the person you're like, you evolve from
it and you learn from me and you become more
compassionate when it's somebody. When it happens to somebody that
you love and care about, it's harder, Like if it
happens to your child, it's harder than if it had
happened to you. You know what.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
It was such a short period of time, and yeah,
it was very traumatic at that moment, but it was
just a glip in my life. But that one story
that I shared with my own children, right, they became
like these leaders in their own school, and when they
saw someone else kind of dealing with that, they were
the first ones to stand up and nip it in
the bud. And so I feel like it was meant
(20:08):
to be.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
It was. I find it interesting that that they're saying
that they still have bullies in these these retirement communities.
My grandfather used to have a phrase he said, no
matter what you are, you only become more so. And
I thought, man, that's that's rough. But if you don't
actually take time to work on yourself to become a
(20:31):
better version of yourself, then yeah, I can see how
you simply become more and more of the worst aspects
of yourself. And boy, it's why it's so important that
you need to spend time dealing with whatever the demons
you had growing up. I mean, whatever whatever problems the
(20:52):
world has given you, you've got to work on that.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
My mom said, so you can evolve from it, and
they just I'm a better person. And when you grow
up with mom or parents that tell you that you
see the world in a different way. Yes, you truly
begin to see, whether it's college or after as adult,
you think something hurt this person like they are hurting.
There's no other reason that you treat someone else in
(21:14):
a way that is so brutally, brutal and terrible, unless
you've got some issue going on inside. But to have
your mom's words ringing your ear like your grandfather's words
helps you go, Okay, it's not about me, this is
about them.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Boy, that's a sad story. If you like to ask
for American mom is a question, go to our website
America Groud Radio dot com, slash Mama's and click on
the ask of the Mama's button. Terry nut Ifil Kiverly, Brothersten,
thank you so much, Thank you.
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Stephen Parler Lewis Well, we knew this, we knew that
I'm Stephen Parr, and you're Lewis. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
We knew that the federal government did not have probable
cause to do what they did at mar A Lago
when the Biden administration raided mar A Lago, went through
the President's bedroom, went through Baron's bedroom, through the Lania's drawers,
I mean, the whole nine yards. Right, And apparently according
(22:55):
to these newly declassified documents that were reviewed by Fox News, yes,
even the FBI did not believe that it had probable
cause to raid mar A Lago in twenty twenty two. Right,
But they did so anyway because they were getting such
(23:15):
severe pressure from the US DOJ.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
So Merrit Gardland's Department of Justice, which I guess should
be the DOI because it was really a department of injustice.
The way that they treated January sixth DEFENDANTIJ the DOIJ, Yeah,
it's just not funny, though. It was offul funny because
they absolutely denied the civil rights of every January sixth
(23:40):
defendant because they had evidence, exculpatory evidence, video evidence of
what happened on January sixth, and they never gave it
to any single January sixth defendant. And while they were
hiding evidence from every January sixth defendant. They were in
raiding Donald Trump's house to try and trump up evidence
that didn't exist. Remember, they actually brought in folders and
(24:03):
put sticky notes on front of the folders to make
it look like Donald Trump had done something he hadn't done.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And in these documents, I guess one of the officials
was warned saying, look, this isn't going to look good.
And this official said, and I quote, that he did
not give a damn about the optics. He didn't obviously
didn't care about the constitution, doesn't care about legal precedent,
doesn't care about the institutional damage or the country.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
We just got to get Trump, baby, gotta get Trump. See,
that's not justice. Justice is supposed to be blind. Justice
isn't supposed to be okay, treating people differently based upon
who they are, what their name is, or what their
position is in government.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
The law is the law is the law.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
And if you're treating one person differently simply because you
don't like their politics, that's not justice.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's in justice. And who is going to be held
accountable for this?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Nobody?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
See this is the part that drives the American people,
or certain demographic of the American people, those patriots.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's frustrating beyond all guts.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well understand that this is a nation of laws and
not of men.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Because if nobody is punished for the things that were
done under Jack Smith, under Merrick Garland, under Joe Biden,
under Hillary Clinton, if nobody is punished for any of
this stuff under Barack Obama, under James Comey, then it
will happen again.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
No. I mean, look, there's two systems of justice here, right,
because ask yourself, would this raid have happened to anyone else?
Would a former Democratic president have had his home rated
under similar circumstance.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Joe Biden didn't. Joe Biden had documents he wasn't allowed
to have because he was a he was a vice president,
not a president. He had them in an unsecured location
at his home, not a heavily secured place like mar
A Lago, but just a garage in Jersey, in Delaware.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No, this needs to be investigated, and we need to
know who at the DOJ applied the pressure, Who dis Jacksmith,
Who Jack dismissed the probable cause concern Jack Smith? Who
approved the warrant despite the objections.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, Jack Smith at least would have approved the warrant request.
Let's get to a digging deep, going down, down, down.
So I saw an interesting story in the New York
Post this morning from doctor John Lott Junior. We talked
to him, you and I filled in on the Joe
Piscopos show in New York City this morning. This is
one that the folks that we were talking to, and
(26:35):
he has an article. It's called new Data reveals the horrific,
horrific truth about Illegal Immigrant crime. Now, one of the
stories folks on the left likes to tell is that
illegal immigrants, or as they put it, undocumented migrants, commit
crime at a lower rate than natural born American citizens.
But that doesn't square with some of the data that
(26:57):
that doctor Lott discovered. He found that illegal immigrants in
New York State are committing crimes at much higher rates
than American citizens there are. He looked at data from
the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
The department claims that seven one hundred thirteen of those
currently incarcerated in New York State prison and jails are
illegal immigrants. They've been convicted of committing one hundred and
forty eight homicides, seven hundred and seventeen assaults, one hundred
and thirty thirty four burglaries, one hundred and six robberies,
two hundred and thirty five dangerous drug offenses, one hundred
(27:33):
and fifty two weapons official offenses, and two hundred and
sixty sexual predatory offenses, among other crimes. He then runs
the math and finds that seven one hundred and thirteen
illegal immigrants makes up fourteen percent of the total convicts
in New York jails right now. But they are only
somewhere around three point five to four point one five
(27:55):
percent of the total population of the state of New York.
So they're committing crimes, being convicted of crimes at nearly
three times the average of a New York resident.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
But you know, and I have said this, I think
we've talked about this on the show as well. When
you allow people to come into the country illegally without consequences, right,
what it's doing, it's more than just the immigration policy
of this country, you know, being busted it is. What
(28:29):
it's doing is it's sending a loud, unmistakable message, and
that is especially to those who came to this country
illegally and that is, the law is optional, and once
the law is optional at the border what laws are offer,
it becomes optional everywhere else.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
And though these numbers don't include the illegal immigrants in
New York Is hiding from federal officials as part of
their sanctuary jurisdiction policies. Because New York State is a
sanctuary state, they will not cooperate with ICE. So they've
got people in their jails that they haven't told ICE about.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
So if you're a criminal, you're going to go to
New You're going to go to New York State someplace
like that.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
If you're a criminal in the country illegally, you're going
to go someplace where you think you can get away
with this. And this is all very expensive for taxpayers.
From the article, while the average costs different cross various facilities,
assuming half of incarcerated illegal immigrants are in state prison
and half are of the remainder are in New York
City jails, implies a cost of well over one billion
(29:27):
dollars per year and possibly as much as one point
four billion dollars a year just to put illegal immigrants
in prison.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And when you think about it, those folks serving time,
they're not working no, they're not contributing to the economy.
They're not providing for their families. So if they have dependents,
right like for example, a wife or children or what have.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Ito, why those people become dependents on the state too.
So now we're giving state welfare money to those folks.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Because in those sanctuary states, every dime of.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
That money is money the states shouldn't have to spend
because those people shouldn't have ever been in New York
in the first place to commit whatever crime they committed.
So you've got one more crime, which means more people
being victimized by it, at three times the rate of
Native New Yorkers. You've got those people now in jail.
We've got to pay to feed them, pay to clothe them,
(30:24):
pay to house them. We've got to give them free
medical care while they're in jail. All that's very expensive.
And all of this for people that should have never
been in the state in the first place. All of
that is money coming out of the pockets of New
Yorkers and it's not going back to New Yorkers. This
is blown, it's wasted money. This is just one more
(30:46):
reason why President Trump's push to move illegal immigrants out
of the country is good for the entire country. His
moves to get rid of illegal immigrants is even good
for blue states or sanctuary jurisdictions where they don't want
to cooperate with ICE. They're self sabotaging, they're self destroying
(31:06):
their own states. Because if you cooperate with ICE, you
could get these criminals out of the country faster.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Because when the first law you break is rewarded coming
across that border, it won't be the last law. Yeah,
the next one is just that much easier to justify.
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to American Gram Radio Stephen Power, lewisar, you know, these
folks have lost their minds. There are some groups out
(32:17):
there right now demanding that AT and T HU cancel
its contracts with the federal government, specifically the Department of
Homeland Security, the Customs and Border Protection, and ICE. Okay,
because in the activist imagination, in that vast waste land
(32:40):
that is between their ears, they say enforcing immigration law
is a moral crime, and that anyone who helps the
government do its job like AT and T is now complicit.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Isn't okay?
Speaker 5 (32:56):
If I don't if I don't care what the moral
value I use the people who don't believe in God
is okay, because the majority of people on the left
don't believe in God anymore. And if you don't believe
in God, who is the creator not just of us
in the universe, but also the creator of morality, if
you don't base your morality off of God, then what
(33:17):
are you basing your morality off? And why should I
pay attention to your morality?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Okay? But AT and T and DHS, Yeah, have worked
together for over thirty years.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It's called American Telephone and Telegraph AT and T. That's
what it stands for.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Okay, But if you cancel. If AT and T were
to bow to the crowd, right this crowd, how many of.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Their own employees wouldy have to lay out?
Speaker 7 (33:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
No, that okay, that's fine. No, I mean that's but
there's other providers, there's other wireless providers out there that'll do.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
The work, right, I mean, T Mobile be happy to
jump in. I'm sure somebody else will step in. But again,
you're going to have to fire your own employees. So
is that moral to fire to people of their non
fault of their own to make them lose their job
and the ability to feed their families?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Is that moral? Okay? So here's the logic immigration for
the left. Here, immigration enforcement is bad. Ice and customs
in border patrol are immigration enforcement. Okay, So anyone who
provides services to ice and customs in border enforcement patrol
(34:25):
is bad. Therefore AT and T must be punished for
providing phone service.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Here's my morality. Governments are institute among men to secure
the rights of the people who created the government. The
people say, I have a right to life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness. The government's supposed to be protecting
the rights of the people who created the government, that's
us from other people, either domestically or foreign, who would
take away those rights. Anyone who comes into this country
is doing so in one either to take away my
(34:53):
right to pursue my happiness, or my right to liberty,
or my right to life. So my government's moral job
is to secure our rights away from people who would
come to take it away.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
That's where the mortality comes in. But I mean, where
does this end?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Because if at and T is, it doesn't end.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
You're going to cancel electricity to the federal buildings now
that are housing ice.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yes, that's the nonsense.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Shut off all the water that see, that's their morality.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Let's get to a bright spot.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I'm doing all right, getting degrades.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
There was an article in the Journal of European Economic
Association about the health in the United States. The authors
looked at long term trends in religious participation and compare
that to mortality trends. That's what they found. Quote, in
recent decades, death rates from suicides, drug poisonings, and alcoholic
liver diseases have dramatically increased in the United States. We
(35:52):
show that these deaths of despair begin to increase relative
to trend in the early nineteen nineties, that this this
increase was preceded by a decline in religious participation. What
they're saying is that as people moved away from faith,
that deaths of despair increased. Now there's an article about
(36:15):
this in the Epic Times by a clinical psychologists. He
said practices such as prayer, meditation, and moral self reflection
function as behavioral and neurophysiological training systems strengthening self regulation,
delayed gratification, and emotional stability.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
They do this by.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Repeatedly shifting attention away from impulse and threat, calming stress responses,
and reinforcing neural pathways involved in reflection, restraint, and choice.
When such practices decline at a population level, vulnerability to
addiction and despare increase. So the point here is faith
can help you live longer and live better. That is
(36:57):
one of the benefits of faith.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well, and I think despair grows also when you feel
you are alone, because at the heart of despair is isolation,
the belief that no one sees you, no one cares, cares,
no one is listening, and a lack of faith sometimes
reinforces that lie faith reminds us that we are never alone.
(37:25):
It proclaims that God knows us by name, that he
counts every every tear, every hair on our head. That
you know that. And when people lose faith, they often
lose that sense of that sense of that all of
the comfort of this world cannot fill the emptiness that
(37:49):
is inside right.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Right, and it's that empty No, The article writes, what
is filling the void when spiritual participation is displaced? Social
media provides stimulation without meaning in our tayman provides distraction
without purpose, and medication treats symptoms without restoring identity. Public
health cannot fully address despair while ignoring the soul. Daily
(38:13):
Wire did a similar article interviewing professor of Christian counseling
doctor Greg Gifford. As a Christian, if you're saying, wait
a minute, I need to go my psychologists, my therapist
to help me with my mind, I'm saying no, I
think you should actually go to your church and look
to your pastor and look to the means of grace
that God has provided to bring about mind renewal. Faith
isn't just about the next life, It's about this one,
(38:35):
and science is showing that faith makes this life better
and that is a bright spot.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
And don't turn to artificial intelligence and all the chat
bots out.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
There either, because they don't have a soul.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
They are absolutely souls, but you do, you have a soul.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
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Speaker 5 (39:11):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio. Stephen part of Lewis So.
Nancy Pelosi, yes, she former Speaker of the House.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
In a recent interview, she's just beaming from ear to
ear about how she tore up that speech.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
That was an instruction of government property though it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Was it was a State of the Union address, an
official copy and as Nancy Pelosi, then House Speaker, stood
behind the President of the United States and ripped it up.
And that was not just an insult to Trump, by
the way, that was an insult to the institution. That
speech did not belong to Donald Trump. No, it belonged
(39:53):
to the American people.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
The State of it's a constitutionally mandated document.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
It's not a campaign rally. The State of the Union
is not a campaign route, it's not a partisan prop
It's a constitutionally grounded moment where the President reports to
Congress and by extension, to the nation on the state
of the country right. And when Nancy Pelosi tore up
that speech, she wasn't just resisting Trump. She was mocking
(40:18):
the office. She was disrespecting the process, She was demeaning
the House of Representatives.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
That she was.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Violating the constitutions. She was destroying the state of the
Union addressed from the President that was required to be
delivered to her by the Constitution itself.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
And now she's bragging about it. Years later, she's bragging
about it.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
That is the real disgrace.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But see the problem with Nancy Pelosi is she doesn't
feel shamed. She's not ashamed of thinks she should be
ashamed of. And that just makes me say.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Whoa when I say whoa?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ah mean whoa.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
This week in one thousand, four hundred thirty five couples
in Washington, DC got together and set a new world record.
They assembled at DC's Anthem Row under a giant green
ball designed to look like a massive missletoe. Of course,
the tradition goes that couples are supposed to kiss under mistletoe,
and so that's exactly what these one thousand, four unt
to thirty five couples did. They kissed their significant others
for five seconds, setting a new world record. In the process,
(41:21):
they shattered the previous missletoe kissing records set by four
hundred and eighty couples in Saint Louis in twenty nineteen.
One of the organizers, Jared Price, posted video on Instagram
saying last night felt bigger than a world record attempt.
It was a reminder of what happens when a city
shows up for joy, love and community above all us.
Yeah you can't beat that, right, Probably not. They you
(41:42):
pursued a happiness, Bring you joy.
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