Amityville II: The Possession (1982)

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live and in studio by a couple of my boys here,

(03:07):
Andrew and Matt as cat is off tonight it's a
good old sausage party, gentle boyfriends. Hi, of course, of
course it's a horse. What's going on? Everybody doing? You know?
Just got here from the good old pub downtown, last
bastion of dive bars in Plymouth, as I believe, because

(03:29):
I don't really go to Galway. The Galway is a
little bit too disgusting me. Yeah, always a little bit
too much.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Ever since there and Greg had a beer and the
bottle was covered in molds. I was like, there's this
stuff on your He was like what he's like drinking.
I'm like, good, there's sucking mold.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, that was gross. Yeah, stop it?

Speaker 4 (03:50):
What do you doing?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Cat? I had a babysitter and we were going out
for a date night, and Andrew and Craig met us
at the Galway. I think we're going a tasty or
honey baby. Uh more, cork and table, cork and table
at the table. Corking table is great. But we were
kind of pop into the gall Away for a couple
of drinks beforehand, and Craig and Andrew met us and
uh yeah, Craig ordered a bud Light bottle and it

(04:12):
had like a bunch of fucking shmegs and it was disgusting.
It was actually my I changed out with his and
I was like, Greig's like, I'll drink this.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
He was just drinking so you're not even you don't
even feel it on your finger because it was clearly
like it buzzy.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah. I was like what. I was like, what's wrong
with you? So you deserve to drink that disgusting animal?

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Okay, it's all good on the inside, and they gave
him a new one chat yeah, but you're putting your
mouth on the outside of that.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And the bartender was like, oh yeah, all right, I'll
get you on.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
The bartender in the galways discussed by something. You know,
there's something yeah, yeah, that's definitely a statement. But anyway,
BBC a lot of fun, good people over there.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Uh. There's probably about a bazillion Hometown Hots and Hops
stickers up in the BBC, along with a couple of
America's Home to Horror stickers as well. Spot him if
you can find them, send us a picture, tag us
on social media if you know that's something that you
like to do. BBC though a lot of fun as
always always good to get out with with you guys
for a podcast. I think we uh managed to balance

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the pregaming, so we're not going to be totally fucking
stupid and legless on this one. We had a little
bit of a little a little bit, a little bit
a little looped up going, Yeah, that's true. Cat doesn't
have her her paraphernalia with her. The number one, are

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you going to be able to survive without being able
to make fun of Cat? For this episode, I'm still
make fun of her. She can't tread herself. Actually that's true,
because I was gonna ask you to transfer all this
making fun of nes onto me or to that it's
clearly not to be mad. It would it would be me. Yeah,
let's be serious anyway, guys. So I thought, since we

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have the lack of Catherine tonight, maybe it would be
a good opportunity to talk about some and Eric news
things for once, uh for change so long, nothing major,
nothing that's going to be super untimely as Actually, now
that I say that, I'm looking at him like, this
is going to be probably untimely if you listen to
this after the intended frame, because this is this is

(06:18):
a this is two weeks up, this is actually this
should be the week of Thanksgiving. I believe this episode
that we're recording right now, So next week talk little
Turkey talk guys. A couple of things. First and foremost,
most of the stuff I have is just stuff that's
coming to us at home that you can watch starting soon, okay,
because I know we are getting into our crunch time

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for the end of the year. In our top ten
of the Year episode, which, by the way, when need
to seriously consider our buddy Jesse from Hometown ghost Stories
said he wanted to No, sorry, Rob, it was Rob
who said he wanted to potentially come on and talk Dave.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Got it, Ronnie Rotten, Robbie.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I see Dave everywhere. Now, I apologize, Dave.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
I so I'm like one or two weeks ago going
into the liquor store to get here before I came here,
and I was like, I see I think he lives
in West Plymouth.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, yep, But Dave, Dave from Hometown ghost Stories are budding.
All those guys are awesome. I apologize for mixing up
the names. Never been really good with names. Wait, what's
your name? Andrew Walter Matt Yes, fuck face, yes, fuck face,
fuck face. Indeed, all right, So anyway, as of this recording,
this is the most timely, timely piece of news here
a movie that I still have not seen that is

(07:30):
going to be available on to rent at home on
Thanksgiving and available to take home on physical media. YouTube
Boys is going to be terrifyer free. Yes, Art the
Clown comes home two different ways, first on Thanksgiving to
rent digitally and then on physical media for Christmas. It's
almost Santa Slasher Time, Baby. I know that's one of
the best one that I'm gonna buy that one.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Oh yeah, steal book, yes, sim I didn't even think
about that, but I don't often kneel on my a hit.
I don't either, But like you just you take him
in and I to your shelf, Dude, they just get
dinged up, I'd like. And if you get them in
the mail, they're more protective.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
They protect the disc and said there.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They look cool.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
But it's just like I have a handful of them.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
But like, so you find you like the regular but
don't those I like, I like.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
I like if they have a slip case. I like
the slipper cover. Slip covers are cool. I like Vinegar
Syndrome and like Diabolic DVD Severn do great slip case.
They're nice and they're like they're not they're like the
matted finish on them, like they're they're rat Those get
ruined if you're an asshole.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, same thing as the steel book. You talk to me.
Steel books, they get sucked up pretty pretty easily. You'd
think a Lexington steel book would be able to withhold
some sort of abuse, would not be affected. Yeah, okay,
mine are in pretty good shape.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
But I see people post like all the time on
my groups and they're like, dude, like you get them
in the If you get one in the mail, it
gets sucked up pretty easily.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
No. Ship might always come bubble wrap. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Fortunately I get I buy stuff from.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well if not companies like sellers and like they're always
in like bubble they take good care. I have a
Hammer Horror twenty film box set on my on.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Its way, Uh, probably by the that's awesome. Yeah. So
actually I heard that the that recent uh Doctor Jekyl
movie that came out with Eddie Izzard, Eddie Griffin, Eddie
Griffin whatever whatever they are going. Yeah, whatever they're whatever
they are going by now where he uh they play

(09:37):
Doctor Jekyll and hide at the same time. Oh okay, that.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Was like Hammer Horror's first film in like years apparently,
but I've been I kind of got into some of
the old Hammer stuff during Halloween did I really watched
it and I was like, it's like British, They're kind
of like drawn out and boring. And I watched a
few of them and I'm like, these actually are not
bad at all, Like they kind of bratch that gothic
horror itch, especially during Halloween season.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
It kind of like.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I kind of like that, like, yeah, I love so
and to get this little box set, uh twenty you said,
twenty movies. Yeah, it's like it's just like a little thing,
but the dude sold it to me for like fifty
box If you can hear her.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Out of the horse, it's yeah, absolutely all right. So
Terrifier three sure did not get a chance to see
it in theaters unfortunately. I know you guys both did
I wish. I wish I could have seen it next week,
bod baby. So I really I'm gonna watch this probably,
like right, you have to watch it, because yeah, it's
gonna be in your top ten. I'm sure it will.

(10:38):
I'm just I know that there is at least one
particular scene that I've heard about heard things about without
being spoiled that there it's this some brutal, brutal, brutal
shit in this movie, but it's also a movie exactly,
and it's like, I feel like, I'm not worried about you.
You're gonna be fine. I feel like the art the
clown and terrifier violence is almost kind of like NC seventeen,
like Roger Rabbit violence types STUF, like cartoon violence.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
This is a little much. It's pretty intense. Okay, fair,
but you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Would you say? Is it safe to say that there
is some stuff in the third one that is above
and beyond the bedroom kill scene from Terrifire too.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yeah, it's the vulnerability of the victims. It's you know,
you're killing children and children women.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Speaking of that our movies nice, Yeah, we'll get into
that for years ago. Speaking of things that also will
be available at home as of this recording, Smile to watch.
I really want to watch that one. Good things, dude.
I've heard that there are a lot of people that
like this one better than the first, which.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Are tough because Smile original is fucking really both very long,
and I thought that movie was gonna suck so bad.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Craig was, well, Craig told me he's like a smile
that looks good. I'm like, that looks fucking stupid.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was like this.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
It was the promotion at the baseball that I say.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I remember you getting mad about the World Series games
with the smile people in the audience. Come on, I
want to watch my baseball.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
But that's great marketing.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, it was, yeah, because it was creepy. Yeah. So
I've heard this one expands the lore a bit and
it has some really really good jump scares. So I'm
very excited to see Smile too as well. Yeah. I
hope everything's good, and I hope this one's good as well.
Last little piece of news I have here in terms
of stuff. It's going to be available at home. Guys,
if anyone cares about this. Yellowjackets season three well premiere

(12:35):
on Valentine's Date twenty twenty five. Okay, that's what's up.
That's kind of cool. I'm going to give Yellow Jackets
a pass on season two because I did not think
season two was very good. I'm hoping that it gets
better because season one absolutely rocked and.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
This has to like bring a lot.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
I mean, Season two ended kind of with a big, huge,
you know, character kill.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Which I didn't like. By the way. I wish that
they kept that character around.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
And it did because I was like, you know what
we need, We needed something to happen.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, and nothing, nothing was happening.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, it was very implod We can see these little
bitches started eating each other.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Honey bees, honey bees, baby this one and yellow jacks
cannibalizing each other. Guys, I should have mentioned this up top.
I don't think we've recorded since this happened. But a
big old rest in peace to Tony Todd t T
who passed away at the age of sixty nine. Nice,
uh I did, yeah, yeah, everyone. Obviously from Candyman fame,

(13:38):
He's also been in Hatchet and Final Destination movies, and
unfortunately he did pass away at the age of sixty
nine and nice and obviously a huge at all serious,
huge loss for the horror community. From everything that I've read,
in everything that I've seen from people that I follow
on our social media accounts, he was an awesome guy

(14:00):
to talk to, very down to earth, very willing to
go to horror conventions and talk about his roles, Like
I know he went to so Alex from Bloody Disgusting
and Broke Horror Fan. He posted a bunch of stuff
that from when he met him at like Salem horror
Fest and had a chance to talk to him, and
certainly seems like he was a very good guy. And
having watched his interviews about his roles in the Candyman movies,

(14:25):
the way he chose to portray that character, I think
was an awesome choice and makes those movies as iconic
as or at least the first movie as iconic as
it is, because he's clearly the highlight of that movie.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Canny Man grew on me recently more that I watched
it because I was kind of like, when I was younger,
I just didn't really get into it.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I thought it was like kind of a slow movie.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
But now that I watch it again when I'm older,
I'm like, Okay, kind of understand a little bit more
of the the stakes of the story and.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Like how it are? You know what I mean? So
it is a great movie. Yeah, he was fucking He's
awesome in it, and I feel like he's almost like
doing a Shakespearean acting role. Like portraying that character. It's
a very tragical character. Yes, I mean his voice alone
be my victim. He'll live on forever. So rest in peace,

(15:16):
Tony Todd. I hope you're in a better place. My
friend passing away at again the age of sixty nine.
Nice not to make light of it. Last piece of
news I have. Guys, we were all pretty big fans
of Prey, which was the most recent Predator movie that
was a Hulu exclusive, and that's come up in the
news a lot recently because apparently after the success of

(15:39):
Alien Romulus, which is also supposed to go to Hulu,
there's been talk of not only another Alien sequel that's
going to tie directly into Romulus, but there's been talk
of another Alien and Predator movie with the director of Prey,
Dan Trackenberg, who is also directing a new Predator movie
called Predator bad Lands, and he revealed I believe in

(16:01):
Entertainment Weekly that this is going to be the first
Predator movie where the Predator is going to be the
main character, and it's going to be from the Predator's
point of view, so he's not necessarily going to be
the villain. It's gonna be like on the Oregon Trail
and just oh, he joking it up. So I haven't
seen a whole lot of stuff about what the plot
for this movie is. I'll look at the article, but

(16:23):
I've said it a bunch of times. I really think
that Prey was a very good template for what these
horror franchises should do. Is like, not just remake everything
with the same characters and same actors. Do something a
little bit different where you're putting these characters in a
different scenario. So like The Predator with you know, French

(16:43):
fur trappers and Native Americans. Awesome fucking idea. Put The
Predator everywhere in the wild West, in Europe, in Russia,
in ancient China. I don't care. I'll watch it wherever
these aliens have been around forever. And I think it
could be a really good way of play football could
play football could be one of the many running backs
that I've seen Alexander Madison, No, that's Derrick Henry.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Thought that was the pretor.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Fuck But I mean, I don't know. I mean, I
get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
He got rid of the big huge like dread tail, though.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
But what they all look they are running back is
the Predator. The dreads the huge like even a mere
Abdullah for the.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Let's see, here's the quote from Dan Trackenberg, the director,
The creature is front and center, leading the charge. He's
quote quote he's still badass, but there's something there that
touches you emotionally to Creating a character that you connect
with but are also super intimidated by has been challenging
but exciting. Uh Like with Prey, Trackenberg's goal has been
to with Predator bad Lands to push the franchise's boundaries,

(17:58):
allowing fans the opportunity to root for Predator this time around.
So we still don't know where it's gonna be set
and what it's gonna be about. But the bad Lands, right,
that's gonna be Oregon Trail. I mean it kind of
sounds like it would be a wild West type movie,
which would be cool if it's just like on his.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Own hokey like little like wagon with his fan Predator horse.
He's just right, we're gonna settle down here, and you're like,
that's a fucking predator and he just starts eating people.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I mean, there there's a great horror book that came
out a couple of years ago called The Hunger, which
is a horror retelling of like the The Donner Party.
It's a phenomenal story and I think it's getting made
into a movie. But like the Predator attacking the Donner
Party and that leading to cannibalism, that would be a
great story. It could be some really.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Cool living there living their life and the people are
just bothering the movie.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know what somed to go fucking predator just seeing
everything and like you know that movie, gold miners are
fucking pissing me off. I'm gonna kill them off shoot
Organ Trail. They won't watch that, the Oregon Trail movie,
the organ Trail. No, you say Oregon or organ organ.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Like kidneys and liver like an organ, like your actual organ,
like the organ drail.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
So these people live in Portland, Oregon. No, Like like
you're like the orgon drails the organ O r G
A n Portland organ. Right, Yeah, it's not Portland organ
fair enough or cool? Uh? Guys, anybody watched anything interesting
before we jump into Tonight's movie.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Now the news is out of the bay. I've been
I've been listening to Skeleton Crew. Oh that's nice, dude.
There's some fucked up stories in that one.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Skeleton Crew and night Shift both I think two of
my favorite things by Stephen King.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I love I Finished, I Finished, You Like It Darker
and that was good. Definitely has some good stories, but
this one's got This is like from the eighties. This
is like kind of Peak King in my opinion. Yep,
I'm almost done.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
With the Pea King Duck. But it has the in it.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
That's what it starts with in the audiobook. And then
you get the Jaunt, you get Survivor type. There's this
story called Nona that was really good Jaunt.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
The Jaunt is a really messed up still, it was rough.
Survivor type was fucking rough. Yeah. That was actually adapted
into a really cool animated show for Creepshow. Did you
see that? No, it's on shutter check it out. The
What was the other one?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
There's one called The word Processor of the Gods.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yes, I remember that one too.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
That one was fucked dude. That one got me like good.
I was like, holy shit, yep. It kind of had
like a happy ending in.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
A weird way.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
But still, I was just like Jesus Christ, dude. But
I knew I knew that this one had like a
lot of stories that people say are like some the
scariest ones. So I was like, all right, I'll get
this and i'll check it out.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
So time to read like I used to do with
pulling my copy of Skeleton Crew from my shelf. Here,
first edition, yep, yep, I love this one. The missed absolutely,
the monkey that's going to be turning that os.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Perkins, Yeah, that was fine.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Caine Rose Up, which is about a school shooter. That's
a really good one too. The Jaunt, Let's see the
raft from that's a really good one. Oh my god, yeah,
word processor of the Gods. Let's see the Reaper's image.
That was a really scary one too, a little short one. Yep,
survivor type, let's see Grandma. I believe that's a vampire story.

(21:33):
And oh the Reach is actually a really good one too.
So this this is a lot. There's a lot that one. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I'm just curious how many like pages each story is
because I'm going by how long. I'm at one point
seventy five time right now for like listening to it, dude.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's a lot. I listened. I listened to everything only
one and a half speed.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I was, and then I bumped it up.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
But the there's a couple that Paul J. Maddie reads
that were really good. The Wedding Gig, which was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
And then The Man who Would Not Shake Hands he
reads that one as well. Cool, that one is really good, Nona.
Like I just said, I I heard that one this
morning and I really enjoyed that story. Okay, that was cool.
Have you read this?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yes, I read the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I don't remember every single story, but like I like
most of them. I do. I'm on Uncle Otto's truck
right now, so I still I get a little left. Dude,
King loves haunted vehicles, absolutely loves them. There's a few
in here.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
That I didn't really give a shit about.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
There's a couple of poems in there.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, the four O one poem was cute.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
The the Reaper's image I kind of was like, okay,
like Beach World, I didn't really give a shit about. Yeah,
Missus Todd's shortcut, I really wasn't into Yeah, But you
know what, for the most part, there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Bangers in here. Sweet. Yeah, No, that's a good it's
a good short story. Checked this one back up. He's
got a new one coming out next year, so I
did see So he has a new that so bloody.
I saw him Bunny and.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I forget what the title of it. That's the thing
that's all about the Stand.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Okay, So that's a short story collection where he's not
writing anything for it, I think except for the introduction,
and other people are writing stories set in the world
of the Stand, which could be interesting. Where would you
rank Matt You like it darker because I'm going to
listen to it. I'm not probably not gonna buy the book.
I'm gonna listen to it in an audiobook because Andrew

(23:28):
makes fun of me when I say I read things,
when I say it's an audiobook and I say it's
listen to it. Actually, would you rank it? Like up
there with like Skeleton Crew or night Shift or anything
like that, is like, how how good were the stories
in this particular one? It was good? Yeah? Yeah, good.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
I mean I've only I've only read or listened to
that one. I read night Shift, I read four pass
Mien Night.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, I have that one too, which those are like
Novella's that's only four stories. But yeah, this. It was good.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
It has it's there are two stories in there that
are longer and they're fantastic. Okay, Dan Something's Dan Coughlin's
Bad Dream.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
That was really good, okay.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
And then another one called the Rattlesnakes, which is like
a pseudo well it is a sequel.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, remember we talked about this.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
And then there's like a couple other like little short
ones that are pretty creepy.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
And that's not a spoiler because I remember he revealed
that that one was a pseudo sequel to Kujo, like
before the book was even released, probably trying to drum up.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
That one's really creepy. It's a ghost story. Okay, it's good.
So there was some other stuff in there that definitely,
you know, creep me out. But this I was like,
all right, I want to do another like short story
collection because I kind of like the everything's always kind
of moving along, like you listen to like a book
by Stephen King, Like, well, we drove to Virginia, we

(24:52):
listened to Revival Love that book, and I was like, man,
this is fucking like a lot of just fluff, and
it get good in the last like two hours that
we listened to yeah, and I was like, holy shit,
Like but it was just like, man, I'm so happy
I didn't read this.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Book because I would I don't know if I would
have gotten through it. Well, the good thing about audiobooks
is you can listen to them faster than you can
read them, at least for me, and I read pretty quickly.
So like that, Yeah, that that's definitely what he should
listen to. No, but that's still expensive. It's still twenty
five bucks. Nice skeleton crew, I mean, not nice that
it's a skeleton crew was still twenty five bucks. Wow,

(25:31):
that's insane. It's still a big name. It's a huge book.
It's a lot of it's eighteen stories, so it's the
Also King are all read by like actors and shit. Yeah,
so I mean that's reasonable. King King's kind of been
all over the place recently because he so he announced
that he's coming out with a new book next year,
and this is kind of like, I don't I think

(25:52):
it's another Holly Gibney. It is, so I was gonna say,
Holly Gibney's in it, who was in The Outsider to
start with, and then she's been in a bunch of
his other books. Mister Mercedes in that whole trilogy. I
think she was in all of those, right, And I
just I like my Stephen King to be weird and
supernatural and cosmic stuff and the serial killer stuff. I

(26:12):
feel like that's what that's what he's writing now. And
I I know he's older and this is what he
likes to write about, but I wish he would go
back to something like I don't know, like shining or
something about like you know, space monsters or weird creatures.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Well you get you get some good stuff out of
the Okay, fair, you like it darker, I'll check out
you like it darker?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay? Cool? Book? Good, very good book talk anyone else
watching anything cool? Andre you watch anything cool? Before we
jump into tonight's movie.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I Get Nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Tokyo Gore Police. Tokyo Gore Police.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
That's on shutter. Okay, that's a great watch. I highly
recommend it. It's out of control. I'm not going to
say anything about any of it.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I know exactly the movie you're talking about because I
put it on like three years ago.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It was just fucking banana Land. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
It goes ape shit. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck
am I watching?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Because it's one of those movies, scream movie.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
It's like if like you know, and kill Bill when
they have the samurai fight kind of deal at the
end and there's just blood.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's like that the whole fun Okay, yeah, cool, that
sounds interesting. It's something, all right, So I don't think
we have anything else. Why don't we jump tonight? Jumped
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All right, we're back. Thanks for sticking through us, sticking
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certainly appreciate it. And tonight we are talking about a
pick that Matt has been trying to I feel like

(29:00):
Bat's been talking about for a very long time, maybe
as long as he's been an official member of this podcast.
That movie would of course be Amityville to the Possession. Yes. Now,
I am very, very familiar with the story of the
Amityville Horror in general, because it's one of my favorite

(29:23):
books of all time. Say what you will about the
original book. There's been a lot written and said about it,
that it is essentially a bunch of bullshit, that none
of it ever happened, that the Lutz family are a
bunch of opportunists that decided to prey on the tragedy

(29:43):
of a particular family that was murdered in this house
that they moved into and used it as an opportunity
to try and become famous and make money. I've seen
a lot about it. I don't really know enough about
it one way or another to comment on that, but
I feel like most people know would say that the
Amityville horror story in general is complete bullshit, as opposed

(30:06):
with regards to I should say, the demonic infestation of
the house and everything that happened to the Lutz family. Now,
this movie is about a different particular section of the
Amityville story, which would be based on the murders that
actually took place in this house at one twelve Ocean

(30:27):
Avenue in Amityville, New York, on Long Island, which did
actually happen. This actually is a thing that did happen,
and this movie, I feel like, is a loose, semi
loose retelling of those events that are obviously expanded upon
and exaggerated for a movie. But basically the story is

(30:49):
that the de Fayo family, an Italian American family that
lived in this house at one twelve Ocean Avenue, had
a bunch of problems and had a bunch of siblings,
had a very abusive dad that took out a lot
of his problems on a lot of the kids in
the house, and uh, the old the eldest son, Ronald Fayo,

(31:11):
decided to take a high caliber rifle and blow away
his entire family, both of his parents and all of
his siblings in the middle of a night, and every
single person in the family was laying on their stomach
in bed when they were shot dead, and nobody in
the entire neighborhood heard anything, despite the fact that he
was using this high powered rifle, which is an insane thing.

(31:32):
They're all drunk kids, kids, No, no, like the neighbors. Maybe,
I mean, I don't know, it's it's it's a really,
it's a really stream.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
No one in the house woke up.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, no one in the house woke up on the
neighbors woke up, So nobody actually nobody knew. Well, maybe
he could have put them that way. So the whole,
the whole reason that he was found out that this
happened was because he went into a bar in Amityville
the next day, which in the movies, in the books

(32:06):
is called the Witch's Brew. I don't know if that
was actually the name of the bar, and Amity.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
So they didn't arrest him immediately after this happened, well,
nobody knew.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Nobody knew that the family was dead until he went
into this bar and was talking about, I haven't heard
from anybody in my entire family. I don't know what's
going on. And they went to the house and found
the entire family shot dead, and immediately they pretty much
figured out that he kind of did this.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh okay, so he immediately got arrested.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Right, and that's and that's when they figured that. That's
when they started he started.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Because the movie also plays it off like they're like
not arresting and they're like hanging out. He's like, he's
dramatic traumatized, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
The guy just killed everybody. He's fine. To leave him alone,
let him, let him be. They didn't like actually arrest him. Yeah, weird,
I don't know, but I mean so, the Amityville story
in general is a very famous story. Again, the book
is one of my favorite books of all time. It's
very scary. It scared the shit on me when I
was a kid when I first read it. But Amityville too,
the Possession again is very different story. So Amityville two,

(33:02):
the Possession is in nineteen eighty two supernatural horror film
directed by Domiano Domiani Wild Band My Name is Dominic,
Dominic Right. It stars James Olsen, Bert Young, rut Denaia Alda,
Jack Magner, and Diane Franklin. It is an international co

(33:22):
production between Mexico and the United States, which I found
to be particularly interesting. The screenplay by Tommy Lee Wallace,
who also in the year nineteen eighty two directed Halloween three.
Season of the Witch is based on the novel Murder
in Amityville by the parapsychologist Hans Holzer. It is the

(33:44):
second film in the Amityville Horror film series and a
loose prequel to the Amityville Horror from nineteen seventy nine,
which I also watched prior to seeing this movie, which
is set at one twelve Ocean Avenue and featuring the
fictional Montelli family, again loosely based on the Dafeo family,
It follows the Montelli families decline under apparent demonic forces

(34:06):
present in their home. You can currently find it streaming
on peacock, or you can buy it on Social excuse
Me physical media. It's also available to stream on YouTube
if you don't feel like paying for a Peacock subscription,
not saying that I did that, but you also can
watch it on YouTube if you want to.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Did you pirate this movie?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I might have this movie? By the way, I think
it might have come up on our Rotten Horror Draft
episode because it has a twenty seven percent critics score on.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Ron to me, I think I admitted it because I
picked it on.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
My sequel okay fair also a thirty percent audience score,
which again they're now calling the popcorn or me oh
meter score, which is a terrible name. Had an estimated
budget of five million dollars and grossed worldwide approximately twelve
and a half million dollars, so that's kind of successful.
I would say probably the reputation of this film was

(34:57):
based on the original story in the fact that they
were find making a sequel to the first Amityville Horror movie,
which was starring James Brolin and Margot Kidder, and that movie,
despite the fact, again I watched it leading up to this,
that movie is really boring. It's really not that it's
really not that good. As much as I love the book,

(35:19):
it's really it's completely uneventful compared to everything that you
read in the book. It's wild and things for no reason. Yeah,
and I feel like a lot of it was because
of special effects reasons and budgetary reasons, potentially in the
windows the scariest yeah, like and like the like when
you see when you actually see Jody in the window,

(35:41):
it's just like.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well, that's what they did. They switched out the pig
for Jody.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, it's clearly like in that movie though, the Brolin
movie that the original one. It's like a projection of
a pig, like on a screen in the window behind
the little girl. It's kind of it's kind of creepy,
but the same sense, it's like they could have They
probably could have done so much better.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
But why a pin?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I don't know. That's how it was in the book.
That's what the little girl saw. That was her her
little imaginary friend named Jody, who's a pig, and it
was also an angel and also told told the daughter
about all of the terrible things that happened in the
house before they moved in. So anyway, that's Amityville too,
the possession in a nutshell. Matt, I know that you

(36:21):
have again been a kind of championing this movie for
quite a while, and I know this holds a particular
special place in your heart. So talk to us about
Amityville two and why you picked it and what you
think about it.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, growing up like this is always on AMC during
fear Fest or what used to be monster Fest, and
it would be on very late at night, and I
would always catch it, even if I fell asleep watching
you know, Silver Bullet or pet Cemetery too. I would
wake up with the midle of nite and this would
be on. It would always be in the middle of
the scene where I always want to call him Ronnie,

(36:58):
but what's his fucking name?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Sonny, Sonny.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
He's like perched up on the ceiling. Oh keeps jumping down.
You just get a ship out of me. And like
that whole sequence was just so frightening. Like this really
does have a great twenty minute sequence of a demonic
possession where he's hunting down his family and it's fucked
like it's it's a lot that makeup effects are good.

(37:24):
He's a scary looking fucking cat when he's fucking possessed.
So yeah, and it's just I've always thought this was
so much better than the original movie.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I think I don't even think that's a doubt. I
think it's better than the first. It's just like.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
It pushes so many boundaries, especially for such an older movie.
It deals with really taboo subjects. You're you're witnessing domestic violence,
You're witnessing like sensual incestual relationships. It's like it's it's
very strange, and those are aspects of it, but there
are also kind of part of what this whole blasphemous

(38:04):
evil is kind of like thwarting this whole family into
and I think as a whole that really shows like
this movie was able to capture like how diabolical this
demonic force was, you know what I mean. And you
get to see it in the full front. You get
to see all of it kind of actually come to

(38:25):
a head in this movie. And I just I thought
that it was just a very good haunted house story.
They'd never get this far, and I think this one
pushes it further than a lot of them do, even
and you look at the conjuring it's like, Okay, they
get but that you know what everyone gets out, Okay,

(38:45):
I want them all.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
To die if I'm watching a movie like this. Also,
I also think it was very clear in this movie
that so in the first movie and in the original
Amityville horror story, they're clearly trying to hate the picture
that the Lutz family is a good family that is
turned evil by this force. This this this is a son.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Is already like, you've been abusing me here when he
first walks in, Like when he first shows up in
the carson, why.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Weren't you read behind your mother? Like, but he's also
don't think that.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
He's also like three minutes, Yeah, I don't think I
can't kick your as because you're big.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
He's like, yeah, apologize.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
So that that apparently is one thing that was actually
reportedly semi accurate about the Dafeo family was that the patriarch,
I don't know his name offhand, I know it should
be I believe it's Ronnie. I think it is so
because I believe Ronnie the killer was a junior. Yeah,

(39:46):
but I know that the son did. The son Ronnie
did go by butch okay for whatever reason that the
the father did was an abusive, kind of alcoholic asshole
and did take out a lot of things on the
eldest son. Now that's usually how that works. Yeah, so
that's fucked up and obviously they they really play on

(40:08):
this in this movie as well. Yeah, which is it's
just like it's it's a very uncomfortable movie to watch.
Ye form.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
This should have been like Exorcist two, like good at
Exorcism Exist and the Extras three, which.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Is fantas well.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
This kind of is it turns into Exorcist three before
Excess three came out, but Legion did come out before,
like the book by William Peter Bladdie did come up before.
Because like this movie, you get like not even halfway
three and you're like, fuck, everybody's dead, Like what.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
The fuck is left now?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah? Left wild movie You're like, oh, this is what
this is about? Yeah, Like this movie isn't about like
the family. This movie is about him, yeah, and his.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Possession and the priests and how he deals with.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Which makes it feel like an exorcistem it is an
extra I mean is this called I've been my opinion,
this is outside of the Exorcist.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
This is one of the best possession movies.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
It's fun, it's it's there's there's a level of like
like you generally feel fear from the get go.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
You're like when they first find that.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Weird rum down in the basement that the fins, he's
like down there just ship tripping on his head. What
the fuck is going on?

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Was like, and like nobody does anything about it, and
but then that weird but then the way that the
the spirit comes out and that yeah, and she's just
like likekay, this is different. This isn't like that didn't
give me Amityville. This gave me like like you said,

(41:43):
give you the conjuring evil dead like.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
This was. This wasn't an Amityville harm.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
This was the the other thing too, is like with
all of it, like the there's so many uncomfortable scenes
like what Mike said, and it's like you're you're kind
of the whole thing kind of builds, like you have
a hot match that's being thrown into the middle.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Of a room covered in trash and newspaper and this,
I think, and it's just constantly growing and getting worse
and worse and worse and getting more and more intense
until finally you get this like big, huge, like kind
of possession scene where he does get possessed, and it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Gruesome, like it's a little uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
You have his body kind of like vacuuming in and
let's back out, in, in and out, and then he's
constantly kind of getting these like big bulbous like boils
boils and pulsing, but they kind of retract every time
veins pulsy. That's good special effects. It's very like gruesome looking,

(42:51):
and it's you're kind of almost treading into body horror
at that point. Like and then you have this really
uncomfortable scene where you have which at the even at
the beginning, like him and his like younger sisters who
a couple of years younger, I would assume they're very close,
but they're also like almost flirty with each other very much.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So it's like I feel like from the get go
their relationship is portrayed as something that's like pretty inappropriate. Yeah,
like like.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Right away, and you get to this scene where he
has her posing on the bed and like it's playful,
and then it kind of very quickly becomes very sinister
where she asked her to get naked and she dotes,
she obliges to the request, and it's like all right,
like this is affecting everybody, yeah, because she knows that

(43:44):
what she's doing is wrong and she just goes with it,
and she goes with it, and it's and then immediately
it cuts to the next scene, it's her confessing to
a priest of what she did.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Kind of lacklustery. Yeah, she's a friend.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Yeah, but you just understand and to me, like that's
that is disturbing. The content of it in itself is
incredibly disturbing, but the context of that situation is much
more because you know that he's possessing, you know that
he's taking advantage of her, and you know that she's

(44:17):
obliging to it because it's her older brother. She's also
probably scared too that because it's also that's not her
older brother. Like her older brother might be weird, there
might be some weird relationship, but he is so fucked
in that situation that like she has to know, like,
if I don't do this, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Well, and being used.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Exactly it does without saying a lot, it does speak
so much of abuse.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Abuse, Well, that's.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
What I mean.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
It's it really, it has so much to say about
that kind of dynamic inside of a household and that
it casts in like unreal amount of damage on people
when that happens and people become fragile and vulnerable, and
it's shone in that scene. I think it's an incredible

(45:11):
piece of filmmaking and storytelling as it's as much of
it as as fucked up as it is.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
It's real.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
It's just human nature and that is really And also
like demons possess and they take people, they take advantage
of those situations.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
They know when there's harm, they know when there's an.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Evil present, and if this an evil president, is so
much easier for them to just take hold of a family.
And it's this movie is really very realistic, and that's
what makes it so fucking wild, is that everything that's happening,
You're like, this is too fucking real.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, it's crazy. How same the first movie is compared
to this one.

Speaker 9 (45:51):
Oh, it's like I said, I was like, I guess
this guy just beats his family immediately, Like it was immediate,
Like he just started like threatening the sun and that immediately.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Hey, Like I didn't.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Put but that's the difference that they did in this
movie that made it so much difference is like, well,
it's not Dad, it's the sun.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That is expressing his.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Just discuss from the father's you know, toxics, like and it's.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Just like all the demon new is that it needed
to exploit that sort of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Like I would argue the first movie, the only thing
that makes it R rated is Margot Margot Kidder's boots.
That's pretty much it. H There's like nothing in it
that happens that is that over the top crazy graphic
like at all. And I mean in the original story
it's kind of the same way, like nothing's too crazy,
but they just see some really fucked up show.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
Is the house.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Like at the end of the Bad Yes, that I
think that that does happen at one point, having having
re listened to that book recently, I believe it did actually,
But it's any of this has been like like was
there a family before them that lived in this house
or is it just them? So my understanding was that

(47:09):
for the d Fayo family, the actual family this is
based on, they lived in the house for about nine
years before the murders were committed, after which the house
was on the market for about a year plus when
Lutz family bought it and took it over. Now I
don't know. I mean, there's stuff in these movies that

(47:31):
suggests that someone from Salem and a witch that was
out cast out by this you know by Salem, moved
into this area of land and turned it into like
a you know, cursed land Native American nat. So they
kind of run the gauntlet of like the you know,
eighties tropes of why a place might be haunted. But

(47:51):
in the books that I've read, or the book that
I've read, there was no mention of that much. See
I'm so anyhow that has like eyebrows like, oh scary.
I've seen the house and I was going to ask
you about that. So you have actually seen it? Yep, yep,
Like not the movie house. They changed them.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
So there's so many houses like that though, and you
see them you go, oh.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Boo, wait, did you see the house that the movie
the movies will film that? Or the book house? So
you went to one twelve Ocean Avenue. That's not the
actual address. I don't remember if my head. We went
to Long Island in twenty eighteen for a concert. We
drove up there. Who was the band? It was Culture Abuse.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
And Iron Cheek and we it was five minutes from
the venue and.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
We okay, that looks very similar. But I bet those windows.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
I mentioned they changed those when those they did, Yeah,
even even since you've.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Been there, because that was that was in So yeah,
they don't have like the eyebrown windows.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
Yeah, because those windows are very common on that style
of house. You see those all over the place.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
You would know as a window cleaner. Oh yeah, I
I'm not clear.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
You know they were they had changed them years before
we get that, which I don't blame.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's obviously a big thing they play on in the
movies is those windows, in the fact they look like
eyes and that there's you know, red coming from that attic,
and it's really it's a really creepy image. Well.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Also, you never want to be in an attic. No,
one must do have a room in the attic. Yeah, no,
that's probably the worst place other than the basement. That
might be the worst.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Agree co sign. I mean the attic. You're up there.
Heat rises just gonna be super fucking hot up there. No,
thank you, and nothing good happened.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
No, No, it's not like the hell Razor and Beast
comes to be born.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, I want to I want a bedroom on an
actual floor, with an actual bedroom and not just being No,
that is pretty awesome. You good to see that house,
though I know that the the owners. I've read in
the past that the owners are very protective about anybody going.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
There were signs that were like no pictures, no loitering,
and we're like, can use it.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
We're so how long the people that lived there lived there.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
It was decorated up here shits on a Halloween decoration,
so they were clearly like fucking leaning into it.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yeah, so they don't murder their families. It was in
October of twenty eighteen.

Speaker 10 (50:14):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I think regardless of whether or not
you believe that the Amityville horror story, aside from the murders,
which actually clearly did happen, if you want to believe
the demonic stuff, that's up to you.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
There's a lot of evidence out there that suggest that
it did not happen and it was in fact all
made up. Regardless, it's still an iconic story. Oh yeah
that I feel like the murder happened, but I.

Speaker 11 (50:38):
Would see I would say that the demonic possession of
the house doesn't exist, because if it exists, more bad
things would have happened in the house. Probably wouldn't be
buying that house and dressing it up for Halloween and
leaning into it, unless you're a fucking psychopath.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
Now buying a house in general, right, there's a lot
of ups and downs, a lot of hoops to jump through.
Would something like that push you away from buying a house?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Ah, yeah, I'm not buying that.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Fuck No, dude, As someone that believes in weird shit,
not a chance.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
If I was like, no, I'm just I believe in
supernatural stuff enough to be like, you know, it's gonna
not I'm not gonna buy a house where someone got murdered.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Just bad vibes.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I would like to think that it wouldn't bother me,
especially because at the time that the Lutz family bought
this house in the seventies, it was such a huge house,
like three stories with a boat house and a pool,
huge yard, and they were getting it for like a
fucking song. He wouldn't bother me. You're not buying that house? Yeah,
it's I don't know, it's it's a really tough call.

(51:47):
I'd say it might turn me off. But if I
was looking at a house that awesome in the face
for that cheap, might be like, well, I think I
might be able to deal with this. I don't really know,
and then you murder your family. Wasn't worth it at all?
Certainly not at all.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
I don't think it would affect my decision. Yeah, I'd
have to worry about it, serifying out about it.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say, would you if you so,
let let's say you found the sick house, like, would
you you would have to disclose to yourself like.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
That level of murders, I'm not buying that house. That's
bad voodoo. You're not buying that house.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Yeah, five murders, five people murdered the house. The fuck
are you doing there? I don't care how cheap that
house is. Go find another house.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, it's a wild most Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
I mean, dude, should happen if people die every day?
The people also don't get murdered every day in the
house with a high caliber rifle on their stomachs and
that nobody hears it.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Just the fact that the sleep of that house and
be like, oh, yeah, there's mask.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Well what if I didn't know about it? Well, that's different,
you know what I mean. But that's what I mean, Like,
at what point are you, like.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
If you didn't know? But everybody knows everything. Yeah, in
a situation that doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Now, that's not a real.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
If it's an awesome house, like is ignorance bliss? Or
would you rather know? I feel like I would rather
not you. At that point you got to ask like,
why is this house so cheap? Yeah, what's the deal? Yeah?
Oh well, you know, guy went crazy, he heard voices
and he shot his entire family, all five of them
in their beds, something like something like, you know, easy

(53:22):
to go. Yeah, it's rough. Rough, These things happen, you know,
just to tie it back into the original story. By
the way, So our old, our old friend George Lutz,
who was the patriarch of the Lutz family who bought
the Amityville house after the murders, wanted the sequel to
this movie. The nineteen seventy nine films based in the
book The Amityville Horror Part Two by John G. John G. Jones,

(53:47):
So that five times fast. But the producer Dino Jones,
Dino de Larentis, who is a pretty famous of the
Delarentis family is a pretty famous family in Hollywood, secured
a deal with American International Pictures for a sequel based
on Murder in Amityville Murder by Hans Holzer. George Lutts
and his family then sued Dino de Larentis and ultimately lost,

(54:10):
but succeeded in having posters placed in theater, stating quote,
this film has no affiliation with George and Kathy Lutz,
So yeah, they're ass another opportunity where the Lutz family
was trying to profit off of these movies, which makes
you wonder if they actually were as traumatized by the
events as they possibly stated, or if they were just

(54:32):
trying to turn it into a money grap.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Here's the way I look at it. I have no
fucking problem with someone trying to make a money grab
of a situation. Sure, if I were going to go
get a coffee and I burnt the fucking piss out
of myself because the top was faulty and it spilled
all over me, I'm going to fucking sue the piss
oude of this place. You know why because.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I would make fun of you if you did that,
and I would expect to be made fun of. But
I also be like, well, I have a eight million
dollars probably to expect at least like one hundred grand. Seriously,
we probably we would never expect free golf.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
I would buy your golf eight million dollars. He'd be gone,
We never see it again. He'd go somewhere, he would
have died.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
He would buy a Burger classic, lines of cokes, banging
hookers and just died.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
And like, nine weeks later, what are we talking about?
What are we talking about?

Speaker 12 (55:29):
But yeah, no, I have no problem with people exploiting
situations for their own benefit, because that's what this country
has founded on, is exploiting every situation for money.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
We get exploited upon all the time by our own government.
Who cares.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
It is the American way. I got my chance to
make some money. I'm gonna make my money.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
If you don't like it, I'll kill you.

Speaker 13 (55:55):
Kill you, kill you to hell? You you going that
you learn?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Learn today?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Send my daughter out there.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
What does the town of Tom's River, New Jersey ring
a bell to any of you? Not only were the
original where the original house in the film? Yeah, it
was stupid question, but also I always remember I aways
remember Tom's River, New Jersey because I remember watching when
I was younger the Little League World Series and Tom's River,

(56:32):
New Jersey was playing for the championship and their star
player was Todd Fraser, the Todd Father on the Tom's River,
New Jersey team. That's the film House. I was about
the age of Todd Fraser watching it. So that's why
I'm not watching kids right now.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
You call the Todd Father.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Todd Fraser was known as the tod Father when he
was in the l B, didn't they But of course not,
you know, I didn't know that wasn't as it was
seven year old. God, he was probably like twelve.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Actually, it's like that kid that it was named Big
Al Alfred Delia.

Speaker 14 (57:11):
Light hit the Big Al, and I hit Dangers, hit
Dance my favorite actress is and I hit Home and
I hit uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
So they shot in Tom's Reuven, New Jersey for the
House and uh then it's I think it's so weird.
This is a co production with Mexico. It's not anything
I would.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Have I would have never, right, that's gotta be him.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
It sounds he's Italian though he's Italian.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yeah, but what what other fucking weird movies did he make?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
That's a whole fucking family of producers. Yea, though might
as well you might as well. We just talked about
a look at the family.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Guy just did We just talked about a movie with him.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Do you think the fact that this movie is so
like treads on such taboo topics is because it's an
Italian director, not to stereotype it could be. Yeah. Yeah,
with the incest and the rape potentially that was left
out of the movie, and all the fucked up ship
that happens, a lot of stuff with the Catholic church
in here. It kind of vibes with a lot of

(58:13):
the films of like you, as a resident Italian horror exert, No.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Definitely, I mean Italian movies.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
I mean, what's the most notorious Italian horror film of
all time?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Cast? Yep? Well, I was gonna say Suspiria maybe.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Sure, Dario or Gento, But like you know what I mean,
you look at all these export of movies that came
out in that time, like you have Cannibal howcast that's
what you're a dead ringer?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
But the they they pushed the foreign movies, pushed the
boundaries all time.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
They don't have as much as as the the as.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Much as you have the video nasses, which that only
came from the UK. That wasn't all of Europe like
you know what I mean, So you you have and
even now, like dude, you look at the most brutal
movies come out of your out of.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Europe or Japan or like you know what I mean, like.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Out of certainly not out of America.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
No, every once in a while you get one, but.

Speaker 15 (59:13):
Which is is incredibly that's the movie or oh yeah, Jaws,
fucking roof buff He also did ser he did a
billion yea dragging Sounds of the Lambs.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah, Delarenti is a huge name in Hollywood, like the
whole family. Just like you know, Nicholas Cage is Nicholas Coppola,
Delarentis is also related to them, so like the network. Yeah,
oh yeah, the Booby Italian. What are you kidding? Yeah,
that's what they call her, the Booby Italian. I swear that.

(59:49):
Check that yeah, bring that up. Yeah, shot at Delarentis.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
Yeah, I mean, it would be so fun to have
Shanto here when we record, just it.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Would it would have to be worked out perfectly, but
to have him in studio here with us and having him, if.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
We could just get James Magnarano would be sick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
That would be cool to having him having Shoto like
correct us in person be like Andrew, get your hands
off the table.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
We're just like to have him just like fact check
us on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Well. To be honest, I don't know if he's actually
fact checking our stuff, but I think he's no.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
But it would just I'm just saying it would be
it would be fun to have him be able to
be Hey, guys, actually that's not what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Actually, you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Are just like you hear him like kind of dully,
like off the mic, like actually it's like Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So I talked about this briefly, but after Domio Domiano's
original cut of the film was shown to test audiences,
several scenes had to be cut out for various reasons,
one of which being a negative reaction to the audience
from the audience to say, when Anthony good old Paulie
from the Rocky Movies complete Son of a Bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
In this in these movies, he's actually though he plays
this race, he doesn't do it well, but he looks.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
It looks like the scumbag.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
That it's just so weird seeing him in like the
Rocky movies and seeing him in the Sopranos and then
seeing him in this role and there is a scene
that was cut.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Let me see it has been bald since he.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Was So it was filmed because test audiences negatively reacted
in which uh Paulie Anthony the father anally rapes his
wife and then apparently the the the incest scene was
much more graphic. So this was a much more graphic

(01:01:36):
movie in the original cut than what was probably presented
to us.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I don't know if there's an unrated cut that's out
there that shows this stuff, Matt, you probably I don't
want to see it. I'm just there there. That's now.
I've never seen that part.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
That's like Henry portion of Yeah, that's that's you have.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
You have the incest scene, and then you have like
that awkward like birthday scene as well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yeah, that was like everything this movie is just super
super uncomfortable because they're all fucking related.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Yeah, it's like he's been having sex with everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
The Dad's like, yeah, I had sex with the Last
Night Rocket, fucking weird movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
The rooster has sex all they're all chickens.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
But like I said earlier, I feel like it just
kind of drives into like what's supposed to be the shown,
like blasphemy of what is coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Of the house.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Yeah, this is what you would expect from a exorcism
type pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
I mean like if you really look at like the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Exorcist, that's a vile movie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
It's a vile movie. It's blast unless you have a
twelve year old girl.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
This is just cru fix from the vagina and it's
just like the Holy shit, like when that came out
in seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Three, yeah, a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Yeah, so that was that was almost ten years before
this movie came out. The eighties got into weird shit.
They were always trying to but Italy was a little
bit ahead of what came out of the mainstream in
US because they were willing to push the boundaries.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
They don't care, No, they didn't give a fuck. So
have you ever read You're Ready? They're just.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Underwritten movie, though I think it's pretty good. Is Exorcist Dominion?

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
That was not that you like that better than Axiosist
the beginning, which was that the other fourth movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
In the series. No, this was like the one that
came in like two thousand and two, two thousand and three.
They came out a year apart from each other.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
That's the one where he finds like all the ancient
artifacts like literally exactly okay, wait, there's literally Exorcist the
Beginning and then Exorcist Dominion.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
They're virtually the same movie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Who's in Exorciste me very famous actor.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
He's been in a lot of shit. I didn't look
it up. I look it up. There's two literally Okay,
hold on, I'll look it up. But what I was
going to say, so, if you ever read Matt Dance
maccobb by Stephen King and read remember the part where
he talks about the m Bill horror movie and pretty
much how it is a metaphor for uh, like what's what?

(01:04:19):
How am I trying to play this basically freaking out
about finances? Like that's what the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
One of the main parts of the story in the
book is about him losing the thousand dollars the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Fifteen h fifty. Yeah, he's like no one, he finds
the band of the money this model, but it's like
that whole thing like that has that's a huge to
do in the story.

Speaker 16 (01:04:47):
That's a lot of money at that points.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Especially like so like yeah, and that scene the original
movie is like, uh, so George's brother in law, his
wife's brother is using every last cent he has to
pay the cater and then go and then I remember
they're banking on the cash they're getting from the gifts
to go to Bermuda for their honeymoon. So it's just
like he's like freaking the fuck out, can't find the money.

(01:05:18):
They never find it. It's just so fucking weird that
the whole thing happens, and I wonder if it actually
ever did happen. But so Stephen King did say that
he thought that the original movie, in the original book
was basically a metaphor for the financial crises of the seventies, right,
and people trying to own homes and you know, not
being able to you know, support what they actually purchased.

(01:05:41):
And I feel like this movie is very much about
breakdowns of families and also the fact that changing a
setting and a changing scenery for a family doesn't does
not fix the problems that they have. Because immediately this
family moves in, they're happy for about three and a
half seconds, and then all of a sudd and Paully's
just beating the shiit uppy I'll kill.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
They get there and the girl immediately goes to the dad,
such a fucking creep. And then the son shows up
and he's like what, and he's like five He showed
up like five minutes after not even it was like
thirty seconds, and he's already yelling at him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Do you think that that there's some subtle implications here
that the dad may not only have been physically abusive
but also maybe sexually abusive of some of these kids, because.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
They wouldn't have done what they did if they weren't
sexually abused.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yeah, especially the older kids.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
And also the daughter wouldn't have been so like open
okay with what her brother was doing if that wasn't
something That's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
What I was saying earlier.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
It's like, it makes you wonder if like this is
something that's been experienced and then it's deep soon to
be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, see, I agree with that, But I also wonder
if at that point that all everybody in the house
is just under the influence and open to suggestions.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Also, the mother were saying the daughter, you did this,
I was like Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Christ, Yeah, well the whole time too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
During that, during that scene when they're up in the
bedroom and he's having reposed, it's like you're waiting knew
that somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Yeah, that made me think if I was like, stepsister,
are you stuck in the drive.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
It's just it's just like, dude, like you're you're so
uncomfortable because you're already uncomfortable with the situation that's happening,
and then at the same time, you're worrying that they're
gonna get caught, Like you're like, something bad is about to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Oh my god, dad, if the dad actually walked in
on that, well at that point, you know, yeah, well
you do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
You know, so you know that's not him because I'm
like he's not well either way.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
But still you're just like you're anticipating someone's gonna open
the door looking for laundry. You're like, you know what
I mean, like and just you're like, fuck, dude, this
is the It's it's such an anxious fucking it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
The whole thing sick.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Well, maybe for a second, I'm like maybe for a second,
like maybe for never.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, don't what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
You want to see my t what do you do get?
It's yeah, it's super uncomfortable, but that's exactly what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Would be Okay, I'll pull it down for a second.
It's like no, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Your parents.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah, and now that's that's it's really it's sad, it's
a It just brings this movie to a different level
of it's just fair super up. While I was watching,
I was like, Jesus, right, yeah, but what am I watching? Now? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Yeah, I mean, dude, that I didn't just now fits
into the fucking cat year like it is a rough Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
So I found I found the information I was looking for. Basically, uh,
depicting the difference between the actual family that lived in
the house where the murders occurred and the movie version.
So uh. Even though the Montelli family is based on
the real life de Fayo family, there are a few
creative liberties taken. For example, the movie show is the
family just moving into the home at the beginning and

(01:08:59):
being weeks later, when in real life, the FAOs had
lived in the home for about nine years prior to
their murders. All of the children's ages were correct for
the most part, but one of the sons was omitted
from the movie. All right, Jesus, dude had three sons
and not two. Is the movie shows some of the

(01:09:20):
family drama did actually happen, but is exaggerated. The incestuous
relationship between the older siblings was based on Ronald and
Don's rumored incestuous relationship. The older son was also shown
to be a clean cut and average young man in
the movie, where Ronald de Feo, the murderer in real life,
was a drug addict with a criminal background.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
I mean he looked, he looked like shit, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yeah, he looked.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
He looked shn that scene where the priest comes and
talks to him in his bedroom, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
What, I'm sorry what John Gaunt Gaunt John.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Hen johns and talks him in the bedroom, and he's
like smoking a butt, and he's like, he's like, all,
I just like want to be alone. He's like, well,
doing anything for me? He's like yeah, He's like you
want me to leave? He's like, well, you know, if
you don't mind, It's just like, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
He looks he's sweaty. Yeah, like he looks you look
strung out. Yes, yeah. Also, you know, it's had to
have been.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Just what the characters outside just assume.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I would, yeah, I would think. So it's also wild
to me watching these movies that people just smoked in
their houses back then, just fucking people still ripping. It's
wild to me, absolutely insane, insane crazy. But again, I
guess we're from a different generation. So no, we're not
that far. No, I mean people still smoking, our grandparents smoking.

(01:10:48):
I mean I I don't. I feel like I don't
know anybody that's around our age. It still smokes no house,
But we are not that far removed from that. Yeah,
I mean smoking weed in your house is a different story.
I feel like that I know a thousand people to
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
But your grandparents, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
My grandparents are uh, three of the four of them
are now gone. And yeah, my grandfather does.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
All but they all used to smoke in that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Yes, but he's been smoking in the house for Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
We're we're not that far removed from that being normalized.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
True.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Like when I was a child at my grandparents house
in the late eighties early nineties, they were ripping butts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
No, my mom smokes in the bathroom. So it's it's
still thing, dude. Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I guess I
never realized that it was still kind of a thing
because I thought not.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
We well, we don't, Yeah, although I did when I
was like twenty years old.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
We would rip butts in our apartment.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
I used to go over my buddy's house back in
the day and his daddy's smoking the house and we
smoked cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Oh yeah. I mean I feel like if you were
an advantageous teenager that like the steaks cigarettes every so often,
and you went into a house where people smoked you, I.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Think I think people haven't been smoking in houses for
like twenty years.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Yeah, which like it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Yeah, unless you've already been smoking your house. I feel
like it's different, like depending on where you live too.

Speaker 16 (01:12:08):
Well, yeah, that's true if you live in West Virginia,
Jackbots doing all of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Speaking of opportunists and potential scam artists, one of you
two brought up the Warrens earlier, was that you met
ye so Ed and Lorraine Warren. I feel like kind
of got famous off of the Amityville case. That was
pretty much the first case where they became names, right,

(01:12:39):
and it was obviously shown at the beginning of the
Conjuring too, Like the opening scene in that movie is
the Amityville Case, which I feel like they actually could
have They should have made a Conjuring movie about the
Amityville case with those two in it. I feel like
I would have loved to have seen that, but they
instead just make a fucking series on Netflix. It would
have been off. Like, I feel like it's so much
better series they have done that, they will that, I said.

(01:13:02):
I feel like Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmaga have said
they're done after this. Beer is the singer of some
sort of hardcore band, right, yeah, fucking nuts crazy Patrick Wilson.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
By the way, we didn't name our daughter after her
to go on record for fair enough, so Edna.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
From Agio were talking about cheese Ed and Lorraine Warren
by the way, famous paranormal investigators and demonologists whose stories
inspired the Condray films served served as the reason I
brought it up. Demonology advisors for this particular movie, so
they were paid to be consultants on this film as
demonology on the second one. This one wow, kind of

(01:13:45):
crazy interesting yep. And it was also funny because again
it was their roles in the Amityville horror situation were
portrayed in the Conduring. But there also is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
No disputing that there is demon are demons means doing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I feel like a lot of people dispute that all.
I don't think you can dispute it atheists all the time. Well,
atheists are stupid and I have no time for them.
So but I think, so are you saying I'm religious believer?
So who's the very religious? Who's the comment?

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Since I've been born, I've always always I don't bring
it up because no one wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Well, who's the comic that we were listening to shop
the other day where he was like, So atheists versus
believers is pretty much like, do you believe in everything or.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Nothing or nothing? Atheists believe in nothing. And if you
believe in nothing, then that's more absurd than believing in something.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yeah, if you believe in hell, you gotta believe.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
In something though, But there is there has to be
something to me. Also, it's all comes from life experience,
and I've experienced enough fucking situations with weird shit going
on that I believe that there is some.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I just think there's too much weird shit going on
in the world to not believe that there's some sort
of evil. There's not. Seriously, that's another thing that we
can do a whole podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Those are probably demons that are coming up to fucking
rectify their fucking situation.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I just think that, especially with Jesus, with the UFO
ship that's come out recently. Right, there's a whole there's
a whole.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Angels.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into the whole details. Right,
there's clearly a lot of ship going on that we
still don't understand, and uh, science is not capable of
defining at this particular point. So who am I to
say that there's not evil and demonic forces in this world?
I believe it? Are you kidding me? I've seen I

(01:15:44):
don't even consider myself to be overly religiod. I mean,
I was raised Catholic, but I don't find myself right now.
But I believe in evil.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
I believe situations where evil is present, sure, and there's
no explaining it. You can't explain it, and you could
explain it away, but you could explain a way in
the way that you can explain a lot of things away.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Oh well, I'm just gonna be ignorant to this fact.
People people would say clearly, people might say their mental illness,
that's what they would say.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
And those people probably have a mental illness because they
have no they don't understand how to like have like
I have no patience for people, the probably democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Too, So fuck. I mean, listen, everything's open for interpretation,
everything's open for debate. And I think that there are
a lot of things that we still didn't understand. And
this is one of the most infamous parent again, take
it with a grand salt if you believe it's really not,
but this is it, inarguably, I would say, the most

(01:16:44):
famous haunting own story in the history of America, if
not one of the most So it's just it's it
just makes you think, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
I'm gonna I'm gonna sidetrack us here, yes, go, please
do What do we think about the practical effects in
this movie?

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Thank you for bringing a wild, very good dude, the
pulsating like neck in the veins, And I want I
want to I want to talk about the the titular scene.

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Sequence I should say of the movie, the possession, the
possession where he is possessed. You go through all that,
but the scene where he actually acts on the violence,
when he is possessed, walking around the house with the
with the rifle. It's fucking scary, dude. He is like
a monster, That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
So this.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Like I said, this, it ties back into me watching.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
This as a little kid and being like, wow, this
is fucking scary, Like and how old were you when, Oh, dude,
I had to have been like nine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Well it was on TV. They caught out a lot
of those.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
They cut out a lot of like wild but it
really I my core memory is of the that scene
of him hunting the family.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
He's scary, scariest fuck dude.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
And all you get are those glimpses of like the
lightning flashes of him and you're like, holy fuck. The
half face yeah part when they show half a space. Yeah,
he's just like he looks like when he's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Actually in it and he's blown, actually possessed special like
the lightning strikes. Seeing that and like just the cuts.
That is incredibly effective filmmaking and very good, very scary filmmaking.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Like that is just like, Okay, whoa dude like this?
I look behind me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
One time when I was watching that, I was like,
Jesus Christ, Well it's like this is like when you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Think of it, like, this is the Exorcist. If she's
not tired, this is the anxious Yeah, this is what
I was watching, Like, this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Is this is this is essentially a lost extress.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
Because it's it's only like you said, it's like it's
forty five minutes and then it's all of a sudden
you're like, everyone's dead. Now what the fuck am I watching?
And you're like, oh, it's a priest at a hospital,
and you're like, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
The that is that is the movie? Yes, that is
that though. Those twenty minutes are this movie? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
That that that's such a and you feel for those
people so bad, like you actually feel for the other.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Fucking daughter, the little kids. I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
These which they yeah, they give you the benefit of
not you know, seeing it. You pull away from it,
but you had no idea what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
And you know, the us you're watching this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
If you're watching this movie from like a now point
of view, you're like that kids, Oh oh, oh okay,
that kid is dead.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
They're not going to kill the children. Yeah, oh and
killed the children.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
But I just that makeup effect is so fucking good
and effective, dude. That's what always kept me in this
movie is like just how scary that scene is where
he is walking around. You're like, he is literally transformed.
He looks nothing like himself.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Monster.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
He looks like a monster like and it's like it
is so frightening, and he looks so fucking He's so
scrawny throughout the whole movie. He's so scrawny and like
you said, strung out looking throughout the whole movie. When
he's in that scene, Dude, he looks like a fucking anime.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
And it's just like the hair being like dishoveled.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
And like big, like it just adds this fucking weird
There's something about it the way his hair looks that
always freaked me out as a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
I'm like, looks like it's just scary. Look. Have you
ever seen an actual picture of Ronald de Fayo Junior. Yo. Yeah,
he's a weird looking guy. He looks so One of
the things they played up in the book and the
first movie is that George Lutz had a striking resemblance
to Ronnie de Fayo Jr. And he kind of does

(01:21:08):
if you look at them in real life. He kind
of does. But in the movies, obviously they played that
a big time, which that was interesting. But what I
was gonna ask nobody in the family is the main
character of this movie. It is father adamski correct, Like,
what do you think of his character?

Speaker 15 (01:21:21):
Because I feel like he he's interesting, he's also there's
also a lot of questions, like he's kind of like coward.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
He's also kindly and also is he.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
He is, but he's also the only one to kind
of stand up for the family. You know, he is
a character. He does he have a gay lover? Is
that his gay lover? I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
I don't think because the snowboard like skiing within the
like that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Think about it at the end when the demon turns
into the daughter that no.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
I get that, but that's that doesn't mean anything but
that it's very they're very Who is that guy?

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Who is the other guy? I don't know that he's
hanging out with him. It's like, come on, we're gonna
go skiing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
He's priests are allowed to have friends.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Would it be less gay if they snowboarded? No, they
went skiing and it was pouring rain. He's like, We're
gonna go hit the trails and I'm like, just not
even stowing. Why are you going skiing? It's right you
didn't answer the phone and he hung up on that person.
It's just a weird part of the movie. But also yeah, no,
it has nothing with that, but it's like it's a
weird relationship the two of them. I just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
I think it was just kind of a side plot
of yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
It's side but it's also very innocuous.

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
I never really picked up on it the many times I've.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Watched this movie because he's there throughout.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
I think it's just like who is he? You know,
you know, what is what the what is it? Like?
What does he do in the church?

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Like what is this? I don't know, what's the hierarchy?
That's what I do I'm saying, because he's there the
whole time, But he's also very like just side I
am the whole time, like.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
Well, it could be wondering like if he's because he's
trying to you know, there anytime they in any movie
they want to do an exorcism, you have the church
being like this is not how we do that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
But you get those yeah, but he never questions. You're
always there, which is fine.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
It's just a weird subplut because I'm like, well, who's
this guy?

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Yeah, And I'm like, oh, he's very like on board
with this other guy and like as a part of
the other part of the church separated itself from him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
I mean it's just weird, like he helped him out
the whole time. He did whatever he needed, like he
felt like he was like his partner in crime.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Yeah, but that could have just been he was just
like agree his he just shows up, Like who the
fuck this guy? It is? Well, there's all like that.
I mean, like this movie could have been like thirty minutes.

Speaker 11 (01:23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Maybe it's just because they didn't know what to do
with it. But I'm like, this guy is showing up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I was like, this is his I thought that was
his lover. I mean, I mean maybe, but I didn't
really pick up it. You didn't see that. I didn't.
I would also argue that as a person that was
raised Catholic priests live strange lives where they commit to
a lifetime of no sex and committing they might need

(01:24:18):
just a homie friendships. They might need some child.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
Yeah it's child exactly, that's a grown man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Yeah. I don't know. Whatever. Catholic church has its own problems.
They did try to save these people in this particular movie.
Watch it back though, and just watch that, really, I will.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
It's a weird looking that makes zero sense because I'm like,
who the fuck is this guy?

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
He's like the skiing this speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Oh are you so as a gay man you were
offended by the scene or as a you're offended as
it was.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Someone that like knows like what a relationship is between
two huy beings, like, don't answer the f They'll call
another type, hangs up the phone and then goes, let's
go to the cabin and go skiing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
That seems like a couple.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Get away, like get away for a couple, Like what
do you mean what am I talking about? That's the
gay that's not even it's not that it's gay, it's
that it's not anything wrong with that. That's what a
woman would say to you if you were like, I
have to work the phones off the home, shut the
fuck up the phones off the hook, and then we're
gonna go skiing and it's boring, and I'm like, well, summertime, guys,

(01:25:36):
doing you guess there's snowboarding.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
It's fucking raining. It would be sick if they just
kind of cut into like a six snowboarding scene where
they just like and then just realize that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
And then just watching.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Up the rest of the movies, get a big old gay,
big old gaye.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
There's never a like it's just a weird thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
I just fair enough. There's anything wrong with that, But
just saying that that part people need to do. I
think it's just like kind of plot filling bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
But really look into it. I will Andrew next time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
You fucking better because you're gonna go. Oh, was right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Eight R was on?

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
This is No, Yeah it was, but it doesn't happen.
I done, cares jents. You want to think, gents, you
want to talk about nineteen eighty two, of course I do.
A year before all four of us were all three
of us, excuse me, were born. Is this the year
that we are? We did the whole review. No, we

(01:26:35):
didn't do nineteen eighty two hard. It was twenty sixteen.
I think we didn't know. We haven't. We've only done
twenty sixteen. Isn't even close. No, All right, let's rip
because there's a lot. No, but I remember we talked
about we talked about twenty sixteen in hard because it
was such an iconic year, because like it came out,

(01:26:56):
I think get Out came out and we talked about
particular political influences in that particular year that might have
influenced the horror moving forward. I remember that. I remember
we talked about that. But anyway, what I'm saying is
nineteen eighty two we have covered. This would now be
the one, two three. This would be the fourth movie,
excuse me, fifth movie we've covered from the year nineteen

(01:27:17):
eighty two. It's pretty good. Now, you don't have to ask.
I'll just tell you. Kat usually gets joy to have
a Halloween movie, So we covered Creep Show. We covered
Halloween three, season of the Witch, which also came out
in nineteen eighty two. We covered Poltergeist, Nightmare on Elm Street,
eighty four, and The Thing, the best horror movie of

(01:27:40):
all time in my humble opinion. But in addition to
those four films, we also got a basket Case, which
is a Frank Henen later film. I believe you did
that for Trivia.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
That's gonna be at some point made that movie rocks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Yeah, that movie best. I'm just going to remake of
I've never seen basket.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
Oh, that's gonna be a thing, Liz. That movie is
so good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
We also got a remake of Cat People in nineteen
eighty two Cat People.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
I haven't seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
I have either. Speaking of Friday the Thirteenth Andrew, we
also got Friday the Thirteenth, Part three, the year Jason
gets his mask. Jason gets his mask. We also got
Q the Winged Serpent, Yes, which I remember. I watched
the Joe Bob's Last Drive in episode where he did
queue the wing Serpent. That was actually a really really

(01:28:38):
good one. I think you just texted me basket Case,
so we know. We also got The Slumber Party Massacre
in nineteen eighty two, pretty famous slasher movie. And we
got a couple iconic movies from a debatable iconic but
a couple of movies from big horror directors in nineteen

(01:29:01):
eighty two. First one is swamp Thing from Wes Craven.
Has ever seen that. It's actually pretty good graded PG.
I don't. Honestly, I don't understand how people can't get
swamp Thing right. And it seems like James Gunn, who's
now currently I guess, directing the entire DC movie franchise,

(01:29:23):
like swamp Thing is supposed to be an awesome horror
comic book character, like you should do it that way,
it's it's a really cool character ipe James Gunn dies.
But Wes Craven also directed directed a swamp thing movie.
And also we got Matthew Tennebray from Dario is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
That's the writer.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Yep, they're almost always writers for some reason.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
But yeah, I know Tanner Bray.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Is exquisite this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Ros I've seen that one light that's actually one of the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Good movie. Is it all a fucking fancy?

Speaker 5 (01:30:08):
There's so much more in nineteen eighty two, but those
are definitely some big ones.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Let's also speak of which, let's talk about the year
nineteen eighty two in film. Do you have any off
the top of your head for horror movies? Pretty much
number one movie of eighty two, by the way, e
t T The Extraterrestrial, followed by Raiders of the Lost Arc,
Rocky three, speaking of Poulli to two wildly different movies

(01:30:35):
from Paulie in.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
That year we actually liked Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Uh, followed by those are the top top three at
the box office that year, followed by On Golden Pond,
An Officer and a Gentleman, Porky's Arthur Star Trek two,
The Wrath of Khan number nine, Poltergeist in number ten,
the best little Whorehouse in Texas nice ever heard. We
also got in eighty two Chariots of Fire, Annie char

(01:31:02):
and Fires at the Conan, The Barbarian, Uh Friday The
Thirteenth Part three, which you already mentioned, Andrew time Bandits
was eighty two Totsie Tron Blade Runner. Wow, what a
great Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Great movie, Bamby. Oh

(01:31:23):
it's a re release to re release of Bambi, Pink
Floyd the Wall creep Show, the thing we talked about that,
Let's see Airplane to the sequel. Obviously, the Dark Crystal
and n Jim Henson action right there, baby, yep, some
good good. Jim Henson was like horror. Jim Henson was

(01:31:46):
hitting home run after home run, Muppets, Muppets and I
love Muppets, Dark Crystal, so good, guys. Anything further on
Amityville horror stuff, the amity Horror to Possessions, stop here, Yeah, yeah,
stop here. The other movies I'm actually interested to see.

(01:32:06):
I want to see how many Amityville movies, like seventy
let me say there's literally like six. I think there
was one that just came out this year. Yeah, but
I was like, why are there so many movies Amityville
the Mother? It's honestly ridiculous. Let me see works based
on the Amityville Haunting. There are one, two, three, four

(01:32:26):
or five, six, seven, eight nine, ten books, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
nineteen twenty. It's almost thirty moves over, almost forty movies
based on the Amityville like fucking wild and what has

(01:32:48):
turned into?

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Forty of them are terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Yeah. The most recent one is apparently coming out or
came out this year, Amityville Where the Echo Lives, which
released on October twenty nine, of twenty twenty four. Jesus
Christ like, let's let's retire the Amityville franchise, all right,
but this movie's good though, you should definitely watch. But
I agree, glad you guys like this, stop after Amityville

(01:33:12):
the Possession. Yeah, maybe maybe stop with the Amityville stuff,
and for God's sake, leave the residence of Amityville line.
For God's sakes, get out, for God's sakes, get out.
That's a very good, all right, gentlemen. Anything further, No,
that'll be it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
This is a weird pick, but like I said, man,
there's there's a serious amount of horror that comes with
the middle of this movie, and it's unmatched. And then
exors is a movie or possession movie, I should say
it goes there. It goes further than any of the
other ones do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed this
movie because I'm normally not a huge sequel guy, but
I really enjoyed this a lot. It's a very effective
possession movie. It's a very very effective exorcism movie, and
a very effective haunted house movie all come bind in one,
and I feel like watching families just deteriorate and destroy themselves.
It's also very good.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
I love the taboo nature of this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
It's what puts it above the other one. That's so good. Okay,
but I feel like I was matching on your Butcher
Baker and this is I like funked up movies. I
want movies that make you feel this. Okay, So we
were talking about this. I keep forgetting about things that
we talked about at the BBC before, or things that
we talked about in this podcast. This would actually make
for a very good pairing with Butcher Bakery. I feel

(01:34:31):
like this would be a great double.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
The extras three.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
And then he closed it out, and then you murder yourself.
I'm going to die now, all right, gentlemen, Well, good
stuff tonight. Thanks so much for coming in and hanging out.
This has been another episode, oh of America's Hometown Horror.
My name is Mike. Thanks so much for checking in
with us. We certainly appreciated. My name is Mike. I've

(01:34:59):
been joined by and and Matthew. We'll probably be back
joined by Catherine next week for an as yet undetermined
You don't have a movie, do you not yet? Actually? Oh,
I feel so. I feel selected out by myself because
it is my trying to pick a movie and I
don't have one yet. Oh no, all right, I'll think
of something very quickly and we'll disperse it amongst ourselves

(01:35:20):
and we'll be back after this movie to talk about
something else. Andrew Matthew thanks as always, Say good evening
and goodbye to your listeners as you crack a beer
for God's sake.

Speaker 14 (01:35:33):
Get out.

Speaker 17 (01:35:36):
Okay, bye, Hey everyone, it's Mike from America's Hometown Horror,
and I want to say thanks again for listening to
another episode of our show.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
If you're interested in more local Plymouth podcasts, i'd highly
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