Sinners (2025)

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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh, good evening, night, owl, good evening, good evening.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
What's good evening?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Good evening, good evening, good evening.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
All right, well, I can certainly say it feels good
to say good evening and welcome into another episode of
America's Hometown Horror Podcast. My name is Mike, and thanks
so much for checking back in with us. I know
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We certainly appreciate it. Thank you, Shanno.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well we're back, and of course I don't do this alone.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I am joined. I'm very happy to say here live
in studio, every single member of America's hometown Horror podcast, Andrew,
Kat Matthew, Lady, gentlemen, good fucking evening with.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Dinosaur Story. No dinosaurs like the cartoons.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
If we're back a Dinosaur story and they're like in
New York like the dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Just like oh you know, actually I do. I do
remember that time. Now you mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Some random from like early nineties. I think it was
sounds about right. I thought dinosaurs in New York. It's
called We're Back a Dinosaur story.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's definitely a thing.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Look at it starts on Avenue like a brave little
Toaster movie.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, it's actually it wasn't nearly as like disturbing little way.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Better this movie. I don't even know if it was
even that good. I think it was pretty terrible actually,
But anyway.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
We're back in America's hometown harp podcast story. Yes, exactly, yes,
here we are. So the elephant in the room. Where
the hell have we been for the last almost three months?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
PRIs, I don't know, I don't know. We all went
to jail, yeah, we all, we all were in the car.
We're out. We found the people that didn't give us
five stars.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
On Spotify, yeah exactly, fucking put them in the ground
and then we got put in the can.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Fortunately we're in Massachusetts for yeah, very.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Liberal and lenient policies for certain crimes that are committed.
So what can I say, but we are yeah, yeah,
there you go. You went up to the farm. They
brought cat to the farm and just let her run free.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
They do have a farm that.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
They worked on the.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Farm and all sorts of stuff cues. Cows. That's what
I used to call cows when I was younger.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Idiot acoustics six like Q tips, que tails, the caramel.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
The tails.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Like the candies cowtails. Yeah. Now, see, folks, this is
the type of content that people have been missing for
the last.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Last fan And in case you were wondering, you will
most likely probably get some weather talk on this podcast.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
It certainly is. So if you've been missing weather talk,
we got you covered. If you've been missing horror talk,
we got you covered. If you've been missing hearing us
for some strange reason, we have you covered. And there
have been a few people that reached out and kind
of said, hey, guys, like, what the fuck's the deal?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Where have you guys been?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
And yeah, I mean to be honest with you, our
schedules have all been chaotic, and.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I looked, I looked at this.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, So we started doing America's Hometown Horror Podcast. The
first episode of the show was released on December seventeenth
of twenty nineteen, and we pretty much have done an
episode a week, missing a few weeks here and there
until this past May. So that's about five years and

(06:02):
four months that we've been doing this every single week
without a lot of breaks, which is a lot. It's
a big commitment, and we've really enjoyed doing it, but
I think that we've come to the point in our
lives because five plus.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Year is a long time.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Lives change, people's schedules change, and I don't think we're
in a position to be able to do this every
single week like we have been. I think that we
all just collectively realized that this was not going to
work if we continued to do it every single week,
and we didn't want it to fade into nothing, so
we had to.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Kind of adjust our release schedule a little bit. Is
that fair to say everybody? Yep? Definitely yep.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
So we're back, but it's going to be a little
bit different. We're going to do some different things in
terms of the format of episodes slightly, So if you've
listened to past episodes, you'll definitely hear some stuff that
you recognize. It's not going to change too drastically, don't worry,
and you'll probably hear from us not as frequently as
the weekly episodes that you may or may not have
been used to. But what we're going to shoot for

(07:00):
just to be completely transparent. Is for the rest of
the summer, we're going to probably do one per month,
So this will be out in July. We're going to
do one in August, and then come September, leading up
to Spooky season, we're gonna maybe try and get together
twice a month, do like a bi weekly type thing,
see if that works with everybody's schedule. But at the
very least she'll be hearing from us once a month,

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because I think we all realized being away.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
From this for a few months.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
The break was certainly nice for a little bit, at
least it was for me, But I did start to
miss getting together with you, yes.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
And talking about all kinds of fun horror stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Big life events were happening for yeah, some of us,
most of us.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I mean kids, changing jobs, work, Yeah, the everyday grind
of life.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, things happen. Let's be honest. Once a week is
insane too.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, that's a lot of content to be pumping out
in then I think that the content will be even
better than it was before that, of course, so you're
going to be getting a much more concisecise.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's a big that's a big commitment concise.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
Well, yeah, and sometimes you know, like even to my job,
like you try and just put like something out there
just for the sake of putting something out.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
There, and then you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I could have Yeah, you could have made something.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
A little better if I didn't, you know, just throw.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
For sure, then for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean I think, you know, looking back, there were
definitely some episodes that I didn't put as much preparation
into as I I could have. But I mean, when
you're doing it every week, it's it's a short term
and yeah, so it was it's you know, it was
just a lot, and you know, I think that we
did a great job sticking to it. But I think
it's just probably best for all of us if we
if we kind of reel it back a little bit

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and focus on doing the best job we can a
little bit less frequently.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Right, Yes, I'm on board, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yes, more less is more, And uh, hey, you know
what the good news is that there are still over
two hundred and fifty episodes of our show that you
can go back and listen to right.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
To back out. Yeah, now they're only doing once a month.
You still might not get.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
If you're not caught up, catch up, Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
until Halloween. Yeah yeah, And I mean I think I
think obviously, you know, in terms of our extracurricular things
outside of the podcast as well, or like podcast adjacent
things like so Hans and Hopps is going to be
happening on a much smaller scale this year. The event

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that that we've had the last couple of years is
happening in that exact way, doing some different things there,
which more on that when we're I.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Was going to pick a rand about that.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, well we'll talk offline, as they say, but uh yeah,
so it might be an opportunity for us to all
enjoy Spooky Season a little bit more than we have
in the years past with always having a million things
to do, which I personally am really looking forward to.
So yeah, that's kind of where we've been and obviously
wanted to to get that out there and just kind
of let people know what we're thinking about moving forward.

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But that's not why we're here for the entire time
tonight to uh, to talk about that kind of stuff.
We're here to do what we do, and I'm pretty
excited to get back at it with all you guys.
I in psyched that we're all back here again. This
is it feels like it's been so fucking long. It
does feel good. I've been looking forward to this all weekend.
Yeah yeah, and I you know, we tried to make
it work a bunch of different ways, with like you know,
working different different podcast night schedules and remote stuff, and

(10:16):
it's just it's not it's not quite as fluid.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I would say, as when all of us fun exactly. Yeah. Again,
let's not forget why we do this. Yeah, friendship, fun, friendship,
family fellowship. Yeah, well, familias. Yeah. Well, here's the future
of America's hometown hart folks, and here we go, and

(10:40):
the your patients for waiting for us, Yeah very much,
so very much. So. I hope you guys are not
too mad. Yeah, I h you are not either, fuck yourself. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well the feedback that I was getting people were just like, hey, no,
like I hope you guys are good, Like, hope you're
coming back soon. I'm you know, jones our thoughts. They're
definitely people asking what our thoughts were on certain movies,
including tonight's topic of discussion, which I think we can
probably get a lot out of.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I was getting text tonight. Yeah, just from friends being like, hey,
how's this?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Have you seen this? Yeah? You know what I mean.
So I get that all the time. They're Okay, I
want a horror movie. What am I watching?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
And I can rent, I can stream, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
So yeah, I love that. I love being the go
to fucking the.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Horror movie guy.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, and with October coming up, you can do your
curated lists for people try Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
I did a bunch a couple of years ago. Last
year and not as many, but I still got a
good amount that people wanted. So yeah, I'm always willing
to give a good list for people that want one.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, of course, love it. Well.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I did mention potentially some new stuff that we're going
to do before we get into the usual topic each week.
So again, this isn't going to be too much different
from what you're used to. But you know, in the past,
we've done, you know, some new segments. We've done a
watchless type thing, and I think we all collectively agreed
that with us doing the podcast a little bit more infrequently,

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it might not make sense to do that type of.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Thing the same format over and over again.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yep, yep, So I think what Andrew, I think this
is your idea. Andrew was pretty much so what we
would what we're each going to do at the beginning
of every episode before we get into our topic, is
just kind of talk about one thing each in the
horror world that has peaked our interest, like something.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
It can be.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Anything can be a movie, a TV show, a book,
an event, weather, it can be you know, pretty much
anything that people want it to be, just things that
we've been thinking about.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
And I think that that kind.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Of allows us to cover a lot of ground with
some different things, and it's not the same thing each
and every week where we're you know, scrolling through our
notes or through our letterbox account to see what we
watched and talk about it, and you know, feel like
we have to spew thoughts about something that we watched,
you know.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
That isn't even horror related, because it's like catwatched like
Jersey Shore and was like, I yeah, I mean hey, and.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Again Love Island.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm actually I am Island. I am fucking flabberc astied
that Cat is not watched Love. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I thought you were going to say you can Flower.
I asked about how good Love Island is.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I have not been asked.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
No, I have watched it. I just don't really like
it's not for me. Fair enough, Okay, I've watched it.
It's not like one of my being to worthy shows.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, okay, not like British Bacon.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
No, Great British Bacon shows on all the time in
this house. That's yeah, usually my go to.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Apparently apparently Otis likes to watch Great British baking.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
So like the music and calm him down. Yes, it's
very nice music.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Shout out to our buddies.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
And in case you're wondering, Otis, the spooky hound dog
is still hanging on.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
He's god for years, will be eight in January. Said,
he's just an old bitch.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
He's definitely getting so that each each year is seven
dog years, that he will be fifty six in January.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
A little dole.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Children.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, So we'll get into our recommendations in a few
short moments here run through some stuff. But something that
we have done in our live shows that people really
enjoyed that Cat wanted to include in our episodes moving
forward as a good icebreaker, if you will, or a
good way to start the conversation and get the creative

(14:26):
juices flowing. If the cat wants to ask us some
spooky questions, if I'm not mistaken, or a question it's
like one kind of.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
It's not spooky. Don't make us regret this. I know
it's not spooky.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's kind of. It's if it's the weather, it's about
the weather.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
It's not the weather. It's not about the weather. And
as to very much with.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
July, Okay, well let's not get mad at her for
something she hasn't done yet.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
She actually asks and we'll go from there, right, I'll.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's scary, so just to either go lengthy or this
could be very brief.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
So Cat, without further ado your favorite of your.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Question, that's not until the end.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
So well, it was funny because earlier they were like
asking me what my question is gonna be?

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Like you have to come up with a question. I
was like, I had a question, and Bridge had on
a Josh shirt.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Then Andrew gave her and I was like, Okay, figured
out my question. Okay, So my question is to all
of you who would like to go first answering.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I mean, that's the question.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Has anyone had an encounter with.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
A shark, any shark. Yeah, yeah, your story.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
So I went on a captain john boat, like a
big fishing charter boat with my dad when I was younger. Yeah,
and oftentimes you'd catch sand sharks like small dogfish, and
we I reeled one up and the captain of the
boat was what they do when this happens is they
take the hook out, they break the shark's nose, and

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then they throw it back.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
In because they don't want to have him keep coming
up on the boat and they can't swim. They end
up dying. So don't tell.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
What the fuck you know, Peter, Yeah, the Atlantic white
shark of the Atlantic Shark Conservancy.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah, yeah, until you off, but not shot. But so
he was, that was what he's trying to do. And
the dorsal fin came up and speared him in the forearm.
So dogfish, sand sharks they have extremely toxic like I

(16:46):
don't know if it's venom or what, but in the
grosal and if it pierces you, you get extremely sick,
you get poisoned. They had to call the coast guard out,
they had to bring in a new captain of the boat,
take him off, get him to the hospital, and I
think he got sick within like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, throwing up off the side of the boat. It
was a pretty serious ordeal.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
So crazy is he Okay, yeah he died.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah he was fine, but like you need medical attention.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
So yeah, they probably hit him with the antibiotics and
shark anti yeah, anti sharks and uh.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Or whatever and so they Yeah, no, he had to
get taken off the boat. I was young.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
I was probably like eight or nine, and I mean
I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, that's uh, that sucks. I had no idea that
that's crazy. Yeah. So if you do see a sandstark,
don't touch it. Yeah, fair enough. I can confirm I
will not touch the same same.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I've seen sharks at the New England Aquarium and the
Giant Tank, and I one of the water parks at
disney World, uh, Blizzard Beach. Oh yeah, there's a big
open reef in a tank. It's like an old sunken
ship type reef and you can like snorkel across the
top of it and there's little mini sharks in there. Typhoon, typhoon,

(18:12):
typhoon the gun. Yeah, I did snorkel through it. Yeah,
when I was in my early twenties. That was the
closest I've ever been in the water to a shark
that I know of at least. Yeah, So that's my
experience with sharks in real life.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
And when I was six, we went to Sea World
and we were watching these performers that were going off
like jumps with like their skidoos.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
They were like a big triangle formation.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
This great white shark came and just started eating everywhere. Now, honestly,
I went snorkeling a couple of times and there was
some big like barracudas down below, and they were scary enough. Yeah,
like those things are scary, and I was like, I'm
good with this, but yeah, I don't think I've ever
had like a running with a shark that I know of.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I don't know. I think I would know if I did.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
I don't think I have either.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
I mean, besides, like when I was throwing up, like
in Marshvale, going to the beach there and.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
People be like, there's but like you don't know if
they're like they make their way around here now they always.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
The thing is they've always been there and like they
just tracked them.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, that's like when we were kids where they would
always be like seals in the water and swimming. You're like, well,
if there's seals there, there's probably sharks. Yeah, yes, yeah,
not a fan of the ocean.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
And also the there were some big sharks at that,
the Ripley's Aquarium and Myrtle Beach that we went to. Cats,
sharks in there, hammerheads, some sawfish sharks, hammerhead sharks.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Those are they have those those are in New England,
this one all around the cape.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You too are aggressive?

Speaker 6 (19:49):
What shark? Are you? Guys? Most afraid of a great white?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, just because they're so thicker.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Sha.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
The tiger shark is scary because they'll fucking bite in right, Yeah,
I'm afraid of like fish, So.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Tiger sharks, tiger sharks and bull sharks to most aggressive.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
Sharks are especially because they can and they go fresh
water and water both.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Punch them in the nose.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Sharks will go at you.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, I'm just not gonna go. I'm just not going
to go anywhere near sharks. Even that you like rake
their gills?

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Was like, if you encounter have you ever seen like
things do like what to do with you?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You rake their gills? Are you trying? You have one
in their eyes out.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Or put your head between your legs and kiss your
ask yeah, or you just let it rip you up
and you have a cool story.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, hopefully don't lose a limb.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
That was my shark week question.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
That was a good question.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
That was good. Actually we just ended shark it.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Is Yeah, it's a shark week is technically over, but
it was a week ago the shark.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Jeff, thank you, golf clop for Catherine.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
The people who doubted I never did.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Neither your news story.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I doubted you about and you're not your your recommendation
or your do. We should come up with a catchy title.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
For it's what peak? What peak your interest? What peaky?

Speaker 4 (21:18):
What?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
What are we doing here? Not being concise?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, that's definitely not that's definitely not true. All right,
So why don't we move on to what the things
that peaked our interest? Uh?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Andrew, would you like to go first? Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
So there's this new Viga game coming out for a
PlayStation five called hell Raiser Revival.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think it's called I don't really play video games.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I don't really have a PlayStation five, but I was
I was like, I might buy one just to play
this game.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's basically like a first person like our survival game.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
So I think you go to like the Labyrinth of
hell Raisers and find your girlfriend. So it looks pretty sick.
I'm sure there's a lot of good sights that those
show you. Yes, lots of to be seen aside from that,
because I know where, I know, I know we're almost
supposed to do one, but this is very little. I
just purchased The Mist on Blu Ray and it has

(22:12):
the black and white. Yeah, I want to see that
because I've never I've heard it's like way better, so
I can't wit. Is that second sight? No, this was
just like a basic Oh really wow? Yeah, it was
like twelve bucks on eBay.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Me and me and Andy Boy are gonna have a
date night sometime soon and watch The Mist in black
and white.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I can't wait to do that or Mercary whatever that
is of that site. Yeah I have. Yeah, cool, it's pretty.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
There's a lot of good stuff there, fairly cheap because
I just got my I also won my h not
to get too much in the nerdy blue ray stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I got my vinegar syndrome copy of Body Melts on that. Yeah. Cool,
winning an eBay auction for a movie is.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, I spend that much money on this movie.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Oh well, sometimes you don't want it and there's none
They don't spend that much money.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, it might be a good bye down the road.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I probably overpaid for Body Milk, but I love money.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, you also realize you don't have to preface anything
that you're going to say on this podcast that not
to be too nerdy, because technically everything we're doing is
pretty nervous. It's true a lot of people, but I
don't really give a shit. I think it's awesome that
they because I do remember hearing about the black and
white version of the myst Like I think they originally
wanted to shoot the whole movie in black and white,

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which that's obviously a tough sell for any studio, and
I understand why, Like I know they were trying to
that the Logan Wolverine movie, like that was supposed to
be Huge ass Man's last last time playing Wolverine. They
wanted to shoot that whole thing in black and white
and put it in theaters and blood.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's how naturally you delivered. I do it every time
it ever fails, Huge ass Man.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
It's just like you didn't think twice, not ever never,
It's always going to happen.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
So yeah, I think that they they there should be
a push for more movies that it fits with to
be shown in black.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Oh yeah, for sure, every movie should have the option.
Ye did you see did you see Godzilla Minus one
and black? I loved it?

Speaker 6 (24:06):
You did it?

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Because that must have been pretty would probably be fucking sick,
especially where it is still in four K, so it's
like it probably looks fucking awesome. Yeah, it was pretty sick,
even the original Godzilla. And black and white is it's fine,
Like it's it's enjoyable to watch.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, black and white. It doesn't bother me any of
the vivid colors. Yeah, I mean it is nice like
certain movies like Terrifier.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Well yeah, if you're watching, yeah you're watching like two
thousand and one of Space honestly, you know what I mean.
Like you have something that looks crisp and it has
color and it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Vibrant, then yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Sure, Like yeah, I don't want to see Kill the
Clowns from Outer Space and black and white that's glorious
pink and whatever color that.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It's in but I don't mind watching like Frankenstein or
oh for sure, well yeah, Phantom of the Opera or
any if.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's mainly practical effects too, I think it needs to
be color. But if it's c G I black, if there's.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Like real war, yeah, okay, well, Andrew, my interest is
peaked very much.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
I am there, and then that's what we can could
be that we're just kind of Dennis, like, are you one?
I'll give that three.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I love this already, Catherine, what has peaked your interest?

Speaker 6 (25:27):
So what I was presented this today, to be fair,
weeks ago? Weeks ago, okay, I must have missed that. Anyways,
on the cuff.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
You know one of the scary things that I think it's.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Off the cuff, isn't it on the cuff, like off
the top of your head?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, off cuff.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
I've been thinking about the crazy weather we've been having.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
You know that serious though, No, but like seriously you're
thinking about like the people they were in Quincy and
they had like the blood they're getting stuck in the
water and like stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like that burst hand.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Yes, yeah, there's that.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
There's like other places around I was doing this little
deep dive into weather.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
We'll say. That started peaking my.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
Interest about learning more about when I when I use
the title in my explanation kind of thing, you get it,
I use the title.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
So it's not as good as you.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Have to say it, all right?

Speaker 7 (26:31):
So yeah yeah, So like all these different places on
the social recorded record amounts of rain that day.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
It was like hanging Waymouth whatever, blah blah blah blah blah.
Then like you go back and you're like, what other
crazy things have happened this year?

Speaker 7 (26:47):
And it was like New Orleans had a record amount
of snow in January where it's like they had like
warning never snows like same like Texas, California with all
their wildfires and how much that like destroyed, but they
said it was like the most that they've ever seen.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
It was like on records.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Because they didn't like there was they didn't have fire.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Yeah, but like South Korea.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Then I go down worldwide and like South Korea also
had wildfires in March and like they had a big
thing too, Like all of these other places had floods
everywhere else, Like but these are all record things that
all have happened this year.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
And then you're looking at like math and.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
So I was looking at math and this what this
year twenty twenty five? In twenty twenty five, the root
of twenty twenty five is forty two, So it's like
the year and it either means good luck or like
it's a weird thing. So jeeves aith no, I'm well, yeah,

(27:51):
I did really deep dive.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
So let's let's wrap this up.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
So I was telling Andrew about my idea of the
weather and saying, you know, all these things have been scary,
and now there's been super hot, like well this summer,
this summer, but it's usually hot in the summer, but
the flash floods were a little bit horrifying. Then Andrew
tells me about this molasses flood. Have you ever heard
about this molasses flood?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
About this that needs to be a horror movie that
hasn't been. Yeah, it seems like it would be right
for a movie like Mark stars in it. Oh my god,
what are we gonna do?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
As I'm like, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Jelly wall?

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Holy, eat it up?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Put it in a pancake. Love this segment.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
All of all of.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
That, though, going down this deep rabbit hole dive horrifying
things led me to the Great Molasses flood, which actually
then really peaked my.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Love it.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
But that was I mean, if you don't know what
it is, I was like, I looked at real quick
this huge storage with two way three million gallons of
molasses the way thirteen thousand short tons first, and it
like killed it killed twenty one people.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
It injured one hundred and fifty and they stayed.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Like local folklore is like on hot summer days you
can like still smell molasses.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Where did that was? That was? Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Imagine we were making it was at the Boston Big
Bean Company probably they were probably making beans with all
that glasses.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I mean, imagine, as Quinn would say, meeting your demise
from a flowing.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Wave of molasses. You're just on like the corner shining
some guy's shoes. My life sucks. Yeah, sh o God
the hell is that?

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, Lava said, oh ship, I've been had. It's a good.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Flood, the Boston molasses disaster.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Oh my no. Wow, that's yeah, that is a crazy thing.
Anything else.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
That segment bead wellcat, my interest is pas very much.
Shirt you are wearing your twister shirt. Weather weather, scary weather.
You never let us down in terms of scary weather.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I love it. It's so we're returning to form pretty quickly.
Here we're peaking. It's almost like we were never gone.
It's right, right, Matthew, your interest.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
My interest peaked. Yes, it's Zach Kraigor's upcoming film Weapons.
That's my biggest anticipation of the year. As the day's
roll closer and closer, which is getting closer and closer,
I think it comes out in the eighth It's just
it's being called just a fucking masterpiece. It's an epic.

(30:40):
It's just going to be wild. So I am very
excited about that. I'm going to leave it short and sweet,
and that's that's That's really what I'm anticipating right now.
Side note, just for a quick if I can give
a recommendation to bring her back.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's fucking great. Watch that too. I've heard that from
a few people.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Bring her back.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, it's the same same brothers did talk to me,
talk to me.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's it's fucking.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Brutal talk talk talk, bring your back now hard.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm trying not to go talk to me every time.
Every time Ricky Martin on America, that's not brit.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Talk to me, Ricky Martin tell you black lovers do yes, Wow, voice.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Was something like Bricky Martin.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
I'd probably sound like at.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
Okay, fair I can I mean really not analytics so much,
my guy.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
And then again, yeah, An Lynx is probably more more
than Ricky Martin.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, my interest is Peach good job.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yeah, I really want to see weapons to wait, my
one that I actually find some time they're seeing the
same Andrew and I tried to go see twenty eight
years Later and we did not make it.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I would like to see that in the theaters, that
that movie that seems like a movie that was going
to be really good in theaters. Yeah. Yeah, it's like
when we saw Barbarian.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, I mean I've seen the trailer forward. I feel
like it doesn't reveal a ton it definitely, it looks
very strange.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I can't wait to see what it actually ents for
next year. Yeah yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So that brings it to me, and what is peaked
my interest lately is how good of a time it
is to be a fan of the Alien and Predator franchises.
If you're a fan of these movies like I am,
it's been a pretty good year, and the good times

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are going to continue to roll here, because so on
the Predator side, there's already been one Predator movie release
this year.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
It is an animated movie, but it is one of
the best things that I've seen this year, and it's
called Predator Killer of Killers.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's on Hulu.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
It's an R rated animated Predator movie. It's an anthology,
and it's basically technically four stories, but it's predators fighting
different warriors in different times. There's one where a predator
is fighting Vikings, there's another one fighting Samurais which is
fucking awesome, and there's another one that takes place during

(33:26):
World War Two that's really cool, and then they all
tie together at the end in a really cool way.
That movie has been out for a little while at
this point, so if you haven't seen the movie yet,
maybe just skip ahead a little bit. But the coolest
thing about it, in my opinion, at the end of
Predator Killer of Killers is that they tied in that

(33:49):
movie to Pray And at Comic Con this past weekend,
they also released an extended ending to that movie that
tied it back to the original Predator movie and to
Predator two, based on two characters they showed at the
end that basically indicated that these two characters might be

(34:10):
available to return in future Predator movies, including Dutch Schaeffer
played by Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Harrigan played by Danny Glover.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
They're both in the end of Predator Killer of Killers
a Day. So that movie's awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Again, one of the best things I've seen this year,
and it's on Hulu right now you can watch it.
And again I talked about this briefly, but there's another
Predator live action movie coming out in November I believe
it is called Predator bad Lands, and they just released
a trailer for this, and this is the first Predator
movie that is going to follow a Predator as the
main character on an alien world fighting other predators, which

(34:50):
looks like a pretty cool concept.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And do you think there's a sex scene. I hope
there's a sex scene.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I hope there's lots of sex scenes, lots of hot
Predator on Predators action.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, exactly. This will go back to the full penetration.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
With the whaland totally can I can picture some cigar
chomping executive thing like, now here's what we need. We
need more, we need a Predator with the Predator on
Predator Action big cans.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's what we need. Put it on the big screen.
People are going to show her.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
And tire Pussy and it looks exactly like the original
one when it opens up.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
There's a lot of potential there, I'm telling you. Uh yeah,
so keep a straight face here.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Uh. Predator bad lands in theaters on November seventh, and
it has if you've seen the trailers for this, they
are tying it into the Alien franchise because one of
the main characters in the movie is a whaland Utani synthetic,
which is of course the company from the Alien movies.
So it could be a huge thing, could just be
a tease. Pretty cool though either way. So it's a

(35:54):
pretty cool to Alien potentially.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Watched that movie. Yeah, so I think it drew.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
What's the guys the guy's name that's directed the last
he's directed all three of these more recent Predator movies,
the new one that's coming out one and than the
one he did Pray to Dan Trachtenberg.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's his name. Uh. He basically, he loves Predator.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
He's done a bunch of the movies and they should
just keep letting him do whatever he wants, and he
has said that he has had talks about bringing the
two worlds together.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
You know it would be it would be funny since
it's called Predator if they had Predator versus Jared.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Fogel from Subway.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I think that'd be that fight would be over pretty
quickly and you can just have Christy Hans.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes, so Scott Hansen's the talk until like a thirteen
year old Predator? Where'd you get that? Feet? Jesus by
all means enjoy, enjoy more of your pizza. Don't you
have a seat? Why don't you have Subway sandwiches?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Huh, which of course brings me to my next point
very quickly. I'm also incredibly excited for the premiere of
Alien Earth on FX. That the new Alien TV series
that's coming out this month, right, yep, that is coming
in a few short weeks.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
We got the show I'm coming in October.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
But yeah, so Alien Earth will debut on FX and
on Hulu on August twelfth. And of course, uh, Timothy Olfan,
one of my favorite actors, is going to be in
it playing an android.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
So I can't wait to see that show. It's gonna
be awesome.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
So again, good time, good time to be a fan
of alien horror, especially the Alien and Predator franchises.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Which is that's what's peaked my interest. It's actually peaked
my inras.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Now, what's that is this whole predator sex scene that
you guys are talking.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
I'm sure, I'm sure it did.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I'm sure it did peak with a picture for you,
I'm just scurious what the predators dick would look like.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You think, awful, awful, awful, Yeah, just have a pen.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
And paper, it just like just draw what do you think?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Not that good of an artist? And then hanging on
your wall for all the world. Since it's all I'll
go to Michael's and the lots of lots of happen.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
In the last three months.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
There have been There have been more cats added to
Andrew's apartment than America's Hometown Horror episodes. There have been
more Superman movies than America's hometown horror episodes. There have
been more Oasis concerts in America since America than America's
Home down horror episodes. So a lot has happened in
the last three months. Soda and seven two new additions
to Andrews one one, sorry soda, that's right, all right,

(38:34):
So what do we think of this new segment?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Is our interest peaked?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Everybody capital capital P all right, so we're peaked now,
which means, uhcause I'm peaking very hard, very hardly.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Alright. We're trying here, We're trying, all right.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
So I think that takes us on to tonight's movie film,
which of course is Sinner. So why don't you all
hank tight for a quick ninety second break and moving
back to talk about Sinaters with you?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
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Speaker 4 (39:43):
The Feace of Evil is going to scare you to damn.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
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Speaker 4 (39:54):
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mansion dot com. All right, we're back.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Thanks for sticking with us through that short little break there.
We certainly appreciate it. Hopefully your interest and attention span
is still peaked over here. And of course, as we
mentioned at the top of the episode, we're here tonight
to talk about Sinners, the new hotness, one of the
most popular movie releases of this year, what I would
say probably the most popular horror film it's been released

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this year, but if you've somehow been living under a rock.
Sinners is a twenty twenty five American film, produced, written,
and directed by Ryan Coogler, who you may know from
movies such as Creed, Black Panther, Black Panther, Waconda Forever.
And he's also working on a reboot of The X Files,
which has peaked my interest. To tell you, I'm peaked

(40:49):
about that, baby. I love anything X Files, so I
am excited about that. And basically the plot follows. The
plot is as follows. I should say, it's set in
nineteen thirty two When the Mississippi Delta, starring my Michael B.
Jordan in dual roles as criminal twin brothers who returned
to their hometown to start again, where they are confronted
by a supernatural evil. Film also stars Hailey Steinfeld, Miles

(41:12):
Catton in his film debut Could Be Katan, and I
Say It, Jack O'Connell, Woodme Mosaku, Jamie Lawson, Omar Miller,
Delroy Lindo, and Buddy Guy a quick little cameo. Longtime
Coogler collaborator Ludwig Gorenson composed the film score and served
as an executive producer. He worked with Coogler and a

(41:32):
bunch of other movies and won an Academy Award I
think for one of the Black Panther movies. This movie
is streaming right now on HBO Max. That's right, it's
HBO Max again because the people that run billion dollar
fucking media empires are morons and can't make simple decisions
about the name of the screaming service and they have
to change it back fifteen fucking times because they're stupid.
This has a ninety six percent critic score. Critics score

(41:54):
excuse me on Rotten Tomatoes and a ninety six percent
audience score, So everybody loves this movie. It was shot
on a budget of between ninety and one hundred million dollars.
Reports on that differ. I've seen it on the higher
end towards one hundred million, and raked in three hundred
and sixty five point nine million dollars at the box office,

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making it at least of this recording as the highest
grossing horror film of the year so far. And that's
a pretty big fucking deal. So, sinners, guys, what did
we think of the movie?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Sinners? Good? Good? All right, all right, Catherine, I liked it.
Liked it, okay, good, Well it's been another episode of
America's Hometowns next year. Interest Yeah exactly.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, yeah, this was definitely uh this is this is
one of those movies that there's a lot of hype
behind it, and if you go in expecting a lot
of hype, I think you could either be that hype
could be met or you could be slightly disappointed. I
thought it was a good to very good type movie.
A lot of people are saying this is like an
instant classic type of thing. I don't quite feel that

(43:04):
way as of yet. I don't know, Andrew, what did
you think about Sinners?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Overall, it was a good movie.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Keep in mind it's also a vampire movie, so it's
still a vampire movie.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
It was way too long. Wait what was it? Two
hours and seventeen minutes?

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I think, yeah, yeah, the first it was like an hour.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
We're going spoilers.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I would say, give it spoilers, avoid spoilers as long
as you can. It's I mean, but it's it's definitely
marketed as a vampire movie. So yeah, like I wouldn't
consider it a spoiler to say that this is a
vampire movie. People know that it treads into horror territory
and that's essentially what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
So okay.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I personally thought it was it was well acted. I
thought the dialogue was terrible. I didn't think it was
very well written at all. But I thought it was
an entertaining movie for about half the movie. I also
thought that, uh, the vampires were kind of underwhelming.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
There was the whole ending, like I see it, I know,
but I was like, I was like, it was good.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I think I think the problem was it was so
hyped that I was expecting this like an instant classic,
and to me, it's a movie that I've now watched twice.
I'll never watch it again, and it's probably not even
in my top ten vampire movies of all time?

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Did you know what it was when you before you watch?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I knew it was a vampire movie yet, but did.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
You know any more than that? Just it it was
a vampire movie.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, it's not even in my top ten vampire movies.
So it's fine. It's a good movie. B minus. Yeah,
GI it to B minus. Good score. It's not a
bad score.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I just don't think it's the greatest movie I've ever seen,
which is what they made it sound like, which is
why I'm just.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I think a lot of people are kind of holding
it in such high regard to because it is. This
is definitely like a capital F film that has horror
elements in it when you reach a certain point, I
don't know if I'd out and out call this a
straight horror movie.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
What my off base there?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
It's a vampire. There's tons of gore. I said this,
I said this in the chat. This is too from
dust tol Don. What joker is the taxi driver?

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Yeah, it's It's a very well influenced movie from from
dust Till Don, which from dust Till Don is balls
to the motherfucking Wall from dust Till Don. Not that
this doesn't really get there. It kind of does, but
it it's so brief when it does that, you're like, okay,

(45:25):
now what Like it kind of just goes from there.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
The actual like action of the movie is four minutes on. Yeah,
you don't really get that payoff that you were.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Looking for a little bit of kind of like wading
through and then it kind of pops off for a
minute and then like that's.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
It left me wanting more.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yeah, for sure, I thought the vampires were boring to
the CGI is kind of trash too.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I hate CG.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
So I'm surprised to you guys say that because from
what I've seen in researching this, a lot of this
was practical effects.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
The blood is definitely CGI. Yeah, there's probably some seed
in it, which.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Is like the dumbest thing to do CGI, Like I
don't want to see blood splatter b CGI, just make
it fucking corn syrup and read that.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, agreed, But I you know what this movie is.
It was better than I thought I was gonna be I.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
I'm also not a big vampire movie guy.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
The music in this movie is fucking excellent. That's a huge, excellent,
huge point.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
You rarely see movies that have original music like this
now and it's absolutely exceptional. So you get really really
good traditional blues music written for this and it's really
fucking yeah, and it's performed well. I like watching the

(46:48):
kid perform the song. I got like, this is fucking great.
That's when I texted you, guys. I was like, this
movie is kind of fucking fire, Like this is sick,
and like that's all it ever even had to be
for me to be.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Like this is good.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Yeah, before it even really like took off, and then
you kind of see where it's going, they hang onto
some good tropes and you go from there and just
like like it's just there. There's so many good parts
of it. But the first like hour of it is fine.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's good.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
It's it's you know, it's I think Michael B. Jordan
is great in it, playing both characters Smoke and Stack.
But it's just like you're like, okay, like it's.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Long, definitely long.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
It's a long time to get to where you're going,
and then it's not a lot of where it goes.
So that was the downfall of it for me. But
you know what, I enjoyed it. It was it was good.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, same and I the music is very well made movie. Yeah,
it's definitely well made. And I think you could tell
in you know, reading a little bit about it and
seeing some of the behind the scenes stuff. This is
a very personal movie to Ryan Coogler. He based a
lot of like his life experiences. You know, obviously not
that set that far back, but a lot of like.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
I was confused like when it took place, because I'm like, well, there,
I think there might be some historical inaccuracies because you're
looking at the times that they're using. I'm like, I
don't think they have those in nineteen thirty two. Yeah,
there's no way they had like automatic pistols.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah I could be wrong.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
And I were talking about.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
And then there's also like a scene where like everything
kind of like switches up and you don't really know
what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
There's like a DJ ye like I think that was
Remember they talk about how like music transcends past present.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
That's what I figured.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
It was kind of just like every you're just kind
of feeling the moment. Yeah, everything, But I was like
confused for a second, like what is going on? Yeah,
and I think, well that felt like to me, that
felt like climax.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah. I was like getting a lot from like climax
here that those.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Are definitely a think the type of scene, the type
of scenes that the critics kind of went wild for,
like great, that type.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Of under under I would go as far to say
underappreciated long shots.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Yeah, there are some good long shots in this movie,
and they I noticed that kind of thing because I
I really I I give a lot of credit when
there's long shots and I think they're cool and it's
hard to do, and there was a few of them
in this movie that I was like, Wow, this is
fucking you know, we're going on like three four minutes
right now?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, no cuts.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
And I always like to note that because that's a
really big achievement. Cinematography wise, yeah, acting wise, lines wise,
special effects, well, like you gotta a lot of the
special effects those times you have kind of you might
have one shot, two do it, so that that was cool.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
But yeah, I don't think you could walk away from
seeing this and not think It's a very well made movie,
like from from start to finish, it looks great. The
music is a huge point that I'm sure we'll talk
more about because that's one of the things behind the scenes.
I feel like that is kind of like one of,
if not the biggest central theme of the movie is
like things being related to music and tying cultures together

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and tying the future in the past together. And I
thought it was a really cool way to frame the
whole thing. And I did see that a lot of
the musical performances actually were recorded live on set with
real blues musicians, and a lot like the dancing and everything,
a lot of that that was all shot like in
real time with people actually doing it, which was a

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cool aspect of it.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
To play in a place like that with no microphone.
That's all I could think about, is someone that plays
as a musician. Yeah, yeah, everyone's fucking dialed in. So yeah,
it was cool.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Kat, you're a very musical person. What did you very
music you are? What do you play guitar? And you
know you have a background in music. What'd you What
do you think of this movie?

Speaker 6 (50:53):
I went into this so it was funny. Mike.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Mike threw it on and I was like playing my switch,
just kind of like half watching it and was like.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
Every now and then looked up.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
And then you get to like one certain scene and
where I won't like spoil it without people dancing around
and stuff.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
And I looked at it and I was like, the
fuck are you watching? Like what is this?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
And it peaked my.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
Interests speaked my interest a little bit, being like I'm
so confused.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
At one minute, it was this like slow like.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
Blah blah blah blah blah, and then all of a sudden,
it's like so anyways, And I asked one of my
coworkers because she was she asked me. She's like, hey,
have you seen Sinners yet? And I was like, we're
podcasting on it, and she's like, I wish I didn't
know what it was going into it. You kind of
knew where it was, but like where I was going,
but it took too long to get there and I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
I was like, nah.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
So I went into this besides like those two moments
like having no idea what this was about, which I
kind of am happy about now, so that I kind
of went into a blind in a sense.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Besides like seeing the.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
Very beginning scene in the church and then like the
people dancing in the middle and then.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
The rest of it just not paying attention at all.

Speaker 7 (52:01):
So it was so zeroed in on my on my
Zelder Breath of the Wild game that I'm like just
like completely all in on all the time I've played,
like over one.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Hundred hours, Like fucking crank Zelda on the switch.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
Yep, that's what I did too.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (52:16):
But anyways, I think that it benefited me not knowing
going into it, so that I kind of when I
did watch it again, I did watch it again after
the poole just watching half watching it. I watched it
like the whole way, Like taking it all in and
seeing it from beginning to end was a lot different
and actually paying attention.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
But yes, the slow burn in the beginning.

Speaker 7 (52:40):
Could absolutely be cut like forty minutes, and it could
have started and then kept going and it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Have lost anything much.

Speaker 7 (52:46):
I feel like it's only building their character up a
little bit, but I mean not easy to get it.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
You like, they work for a capon, like their gangster's
like okay.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Cool, but yeah, I mean the music, like you said,
was awesome, I think, what's his face did an awesome
job playing two guys. I actually I didn't even realize
that until one of my friends that I spent a
couple of days in Peatown, A day in Peatown with
the past before weekend Thursday, Friday and before weekend there's

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but she was asking about Sinners and she's like, yeah,
he was awesome that he played both roles.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
They're very they're very different. Like you had seen the
movie though no, I had seen the movie, and you
didn't realize that there was the same person.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
That is, I didn't look at the cast. Don't have
to look at the people that tell people.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
There are such things as identical twins.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
They are and that's what he played, right.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I know that you thought he was actually in real life, know.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
What you're saying. You have no idea who Michael B.
Jordan I thought you were. You didn't realize it was
the same actor. Michael Jordan is b. But there's Creed.
I don't think. So it's actually a good movie, Yeah, Creed.
Creed is pretty good.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
Yeah, but overall, yeah, music was awesome, Blues was awesome.
The transition like back and forth in time, that was cool.
The very end was really awesome.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I love the ending. The ending was really good.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
This reminded me almost like a little bit of like
Django Unchained a little bit.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
Yeah, but oh wait was no oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
So I don't know, I'm.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
Like, wait, is that why you're saying that? Because was
he in it? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
I agree with I think a lot of what you
guys are saying, and I I definitely appreciated a little
bit more watching it a second time than I did
the first time, just because the first time I went
in everyone was saying, it's so great, it's so awesome,
and I was like.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
You know, this is this is good. It's good.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
The second time the great awesome things it's.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I mean, it's just I feel like it's it was.
It made a ton of money. Critics loved it. It's
you know, it's one of those movies that it's an
original and this is this is a good thing. It's
an original story, it's not part of a franchise, and
it was fucking gangbusters at the box office. A lot
of people want out to go see it, which it's fun.
That's great. It's definitely a fun movie for sure, which
I think a lot of people also enjoyed. It got
really great word of mouth, which I think is what

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led to it making so much money. But the first
time that I watched it at the end, I kind
of just it just kind of made me want to
watch From dust Till don again, which I did watch
leading up to doing this podcast, and that movie is
still fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
It's great classic, and I think, obviously this is a
movie that's trying to take itself a lot more seriously
than From Dust Till donn Is.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
But from dust Till I mean, I I think so.
I think so because this.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Movie made me laugh a loud like a few times.
There were definitely some some laughs. There were some laughs
in there. Delta Slim del Roy Lindo's character. He was
my one of my favorite parts of the movie because
the what what what party you were forming?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
She makes everybody eat garlic. Oh yeah, yeah, they had
like the blood test scene. Yeah, that was really good.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Coogler did say that the Thing was an influence on
this movie, along with From Dust Till Dawn obviously in
another Robert Rodriguez movie, The Faculty, which is a really
underrated nineties.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Okay, yep, which I don't get that, but.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
We didn't do so, I think in the in the
sense of like people in one location fighting off a
bunch of Yeah, I guess that type of that type
of thing, But I thought that was all cool and
knowing not knowing who's who. Yeah, yeah, And I think
this movie did a really good job. Watching it the
second time, I thought of doing a lot of world
building in the first hour, Like you get a lot

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of background about these characters without it's kind of like
they should they show you a lot without like coming
out and telling you, like this is what these like.
You you can infer a lot of like what happened
to these characters, and you pick up on a lot
more the second time watching it. But I ultimately finding
found myself just wanting it to get to the the end,
which like the last forty five minutes is pretty fucking awesome. Yep, yep,

(56:56):
Like the whole vampire siege, so I mean, yeah, we're
in spoiler territory now, I'd say, like the vampire siege
at the end is really fucking good.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Well.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
I loved that they're hard pressing to be like invited inside.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
I thought that that was super cool because it's a
super traditional vampire trope, is like a vampire has to
be invited inside your house.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah, And I always I really really enjoyed.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
That it was like those the three Irish guys or
the two Irish guys and the girl and then like
Cornbread comes back and he's like, you don't want to
let me come back in? Like you know, it's just
like that kind of like waiting being like and then
like the Asian lady's husband and being like like, who's
gonna be like, yeah, come in?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
You know what. I respect it, I see like your blood,
all of it.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I respected that nobody took the bait, nobody fell for
like the stupid horror movie trope of being like yeah,
come on.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And especially given the time period too, of what will
you have that lady? What's her name? Annie?

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Her the big black lady that had the baby with
uhhh yeah, what's I forget her name?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I can I can find her. I think it was
it was. And she's like, these are like I forget
what she called them haunts or.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Something, which is like a yeah, and and and so
she's like these aren't hants, these are like vampires.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah. So yeah, she was.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
A cool character to to be able to tie in
like the supernatural elements of the movie because she's like,
you know, in spiritual and like the mojo bag and
everything that she had all the background like that was
pretty cool. I thought that was a cool way of
being able to kind of let the characters know, like, oh,
this is what's going on.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Yeah, because she had quick little like exposition dump yeah,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Without it really being one right yeah, yeah, which that
I movies do smart writing, Yeah, like kind of keep it.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
I mean, anyone watching a vampire movie is a horror fan, like,
you know what the fucking troupe are. So, but I
just I really enjoyed that you had those characters being
like you're not gonna let me in. I saw that
that was super clever and it's not something that I
think a young fan base would understand mm hmm, But

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I really liked that aspect of like how their characters
kind of worked.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
So it was subtle.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
But yeah, so like the the vampire stuff when it
kicks in is really cool. I do wish they looked
a little bit cooler at the vampires.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, they don't really get crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
There was nothing nothing saying there, Yeah, Remick the main
vampire when he is killed at the end, like his
final form looks pretty cool, but I wanted to see
like more of that. I thought that was that was
a cool part, but I would would have liked to
have seen a little bit more there.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
The Asian lady getting fucking hit with the Moltov cocktail
was like the hardest scene in the whole movie.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, that was wild.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, there was there was some There was a good
amount of gore and the vampire scene that was that.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Was like the toughest in terms of like really hard violence. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I also thought, obviously, like you know, this is a
movie with the black director, almost an entirely black cast,
so there's element based on the time period and the
setting that it's in. There are elements of you know,
racial tensions and the flu Klux Klan and all that.
So smoke lighting up the clansmen at the end is
a fucking awesome scene.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
And it was like I liked the like redemption of him,
like seeing his wife and baby.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yes, that was awesome. It was really like it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Was Yeah, it was like a Catharsis to it, where
you're like kind of it's like a release.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
And it was sad, but it was like sweet yeah,
so yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I wouldn't even necessarily call it a sad ending for
him because I think he kind of ultimately went went
where he wanted to go. Yeah, you know, and he
he kind of went out. He went out like a
fucking badass. That was That was great. That was a
really good and all those bastardscope that they deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
I will say no, oh sorry, but no, I did
like one thing I did, Like, I like how the
like I thought Michael B. Jordan Smoke and Stack, we're
going to be the vampires during the beginning of the movie.
I just like pictured them like when they met the
Klansmen in that place to buy it, and he was like, yeah,
I thought they were going to be the vampires and
they were going to start taking over like the mob
or whatever, and like that. I thought that would have

(01:01:19):
been kind of interesting. I was like, okay, so they
kind of tricked me with that. They surprised me. Yeah,
why they didn't make the Klansmen the vampires is beyond me.
That's okay. So they make this weird they knew.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
They didn't know about they just know they were They
were there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
At the end to just but they knew that there
was something up to go clean them out. I think
they were going to clean them out. The Irish guys
were sent there because he went he was getting chased.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
He was getting chased by the Native Americans Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Which another plot hole. He's being chased during the daytime.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yeah, smoldering, but at the end of the movie, as
soon as the light hits him, he like burst into flames.
How was he smoldering scene?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Yeah, so that is interesting now that you actually hadn't
thought of that until you just brought it up. But
I was going to say, give me any sort of
movie with Native American vampire hunting hunters hunting down vampires
because all those characters, they're in it for like less
than five minutes. And that was a really cool scene
that that built up a little bit of dreadfully and

(01:02:24):
like even though you know the uh because those those
two people that let Remick in they were also clansmen
that weren't with him initially, so they basically they opened
the door, guns drawn on these Native American vampire hunters
and they're pretty much just like, hey, listen, we know
you don't like us, but we're looking for somebody very
dangerous and I hope to God you didn't let him

(01:02:45):
into your home.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
He's not what he seems.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And it's like, okay, all right, here we go, let's
get some shit going. And then that was that was
pretty cool what happened after that. But I mean that's
a side Like there are so many things in this
movie that I think could make interesting side movie of
their own. YEA like Smoking Stack in Chicago with al
Capone could have been some cool stuff. It could have
been Fire Hunters could have been a really cool thing. Like,
it could have been a great fucking series for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of my doubt. Yeah, they could
have gone a lot of different, a lot of cool
ideas here. Oh, I will say, Hailey Steinfeld, I thought
she was awful.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
I can't stay Hailey Steinfeld. So she was the girl
that gets turned into a vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yes, that's Josh Allen, Josh, Josh, Yeah, ye should just
stick to that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Ac.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I know she has acted before, but I don't know
if I've ever seen her in anything. I know she's
a musician also, but yeah, I know she's married to
Josh Allen. But yeah, she was. She was obviously a
big part of the movie for Stack Stack, right, yeah, Smoke.
Smoke was with Annie and Stack was with Mary I think, right,
or was it the other.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Stack.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yes, So that was also a cool thing too, with
the two colors between the brothers signifying different things. They
both always want Stack always hot and cold, and Smoke
always wore blue and that. Yeah, I thought that was
a cool thing too. But yeah, so Stack was with Mary,
who was Hailey Steinfeld, and then Smoke was with Annie.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
It was a good balance of like their two characters. Yeah,
one being obviously like much more level headed cool, Yeah,
level headed and cool, and the other one being much
more like arrogant and just kind of going yeah, just nuts.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Yeah, he was the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Yeah, same guy we wed you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Hypothetical question, But if you take Michael B.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Jordan I this movie and replace him with a different actor,
is the movie even as good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Probably not. He made that movie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Yeah, he was great, and that movie would have been
just I think he's good in everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
He's a fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Probably one of the more underrated actors around today, I
would say, I mean, he's he's been well no.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
I think the reason why this movie got so many
people went and started was becau because of him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I think he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
We're not we're not big on the Marvel thing, but
a lot of people like Black Panther and everything because
he was in that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Yeah, he was supposed to. There was what three, Yeah,
there was like two or three. Yeah, I've seen the
first two and he was awesome in both of those.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
He's a good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Actor, and I very well know I mean underrated in
the sense that he's not necessarily at least from what
I see mentioned alongside like some of the big big
like names like DiCaprio or whoever else, like I think
he deserves to be Like in a similar conversation, he's
a he's a great.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
Actor, is very good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
He's still relatively young, though he is he's ripped out
of his mind, so give it ten more years and
he's in more movies.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
That's dicapra is like almost sixty now, he's probably fifty,
so he's got like, you know, like, yeah, he's a yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Okay, all right. Age age.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Also, I mean again, I feel like we've we've gone
pretty far without talking about this. I thought the flash
forward to the nineties. Awesome part of the movie that
was really cool.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
It caught me off guard because I was like, okay,
like the credits roll that like went into the like
the kitchen and like, you know, just kind of like
clean some stuff up real quick. And I came back
in and there's stuff going on. I'm like, ohh and
I like look to see howmuch Tom has left. And
there was like this huge gap in the like the
little like needle that moves, and I'm like, oh fuck,

(01:06:23):
I'm like how much more of this is there? And
that conversation ended up being very, very fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, so I'm glad. I well,
there's gonna be probably sinners too, is my guess. So
while we're going to get to now a new universe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
They definitely left it open per sequel. I thought, I see,
I think this is perfect on its own. I don't
think this needs a sequel. Personally, Well, you're getting now
it probably made a bazillion dollars, so it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Very well may.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Here is what Ryan Coogler said when he was asked
about whether or not he considered a potential sequel. Let's see,
he said that the intention of the film was to
quote feel like a full meal and would be quote
a finished thing. I never think about that I've been making.
I've been in the space of making franchise films for
a bit, so I wanted to get away from that.

(01:07:12):
I was looking forward to working on a film that
felt original and personal to me and had an appetite
for delivering something to audiences that was original and unique.
I wanted the movie to feel like a full meal,
your appetizers, starters, entrees, and desserts. I wanted all of
it there. I wanted to be holistic in a finished thing.
That was how I was, That was how I was
asked all about it. That was always my intention.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
I almost respect the movie even more after hearing that. Yeah,
because when you do think about it, where you have
the intro, you have the kind of build up, the
meat and potatoes, and then you have the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Ending, and then a little bit even more after that. Yeah,
he did't make this movie for it to be an
hour and thirty minute horror movie. He wanted to make
something he gave a shit about. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Yeah, so that makes sense, which is why it was
two hours and seventeen minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
So then just so a little. So a couple other
things I respected about this after I look them up.
So obviously Ryan Coogler right now has some cachet as
a filmmaker. He made a ton of money with Black Panther,
the Black Panther movies. He made a ton of movie
with the Creed movies, and they all did very well
critically as well. So basically, when he was pitching this movie,

(01:08:24):
he went to studios and was bargaining, basically bargaining the
outcome of the film with all of these studios, he
was asking for distribution rights to the film. He also
wanted first dollar gross, which essentially I had to look
up what that meant. It meant that he wanted a
larger cut of what the box office take was for

(01:08:45):
the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
He wrote it too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Yeah, so he also wanted final cut privilege, which basically
means that he didn't want he didn't want any studio
interference on how the movie ends. He wanted final say
over everything plot related about the movie, and he wanted
ownership of the movie twenty five years after its release,
so it completely belongs to him twenty five years from now.

(01:09:09):
So in twenty fifty, this movie is property of Ryan Kugler.
Following month after these demands were out there, Warner Brothers
won the distribution rights the film gave Coogler his terms,
and again, I think that that speaks to the respect
that people have for him as a filmmaker right now.
They were able to give, Like he asked for those

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things and he got them. That's a big fucking deal.
That is a lot of stuff. And yeah, I mentioned earlier,
but the fact that this is like, it's not a
Marvel movie, it's not a Conjuring movie, it's not a
franchise thing. This was a completely original idea that he pitched.
He went to the studios with this, Hey, this is
what I'm putting together. Here's how I'm gonna do it, this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Is what I want.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
A ton of original music. Yeah, do you want to
do this or not? And people went for it and
people loved it. So his gambling on himself paid off,
which is awesome. So, yeah, will this be the best
movie I see this year?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
No? Okay, will it be in my top ten? Very
very possible.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
But at that standpoint, it's kind of like that's that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I feel I feel pretty similar to guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Yeah, Like I I I very I gave this four
out of five on letter Box Me too. Yep, I
really liked it. I'm not quite sure that I loved it.
I'm not going to give it five and put on
the same level as some of my personal Yeah, a
better watch, Okay. More or wise, this movie is not scary.
It's definitely not scary. Yeah, it's definitely not scary like a.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Period its definitely Empire. But it's like it's not there's
nothing scary about it. There's nothing gripping about it. It's
just good. Like it's well made quality. Yeah, it's very
well made movie.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Andrew perfect segue quick Hits, Sinners or No s Faratu
from last Robert Eggers knows you haven't seen it yet.
I think I'm on team knows Faratu.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
Also, I had so many people tell me that it's
so bad that I soured my taste.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I'm surprised to get you say, like it's in the
same realm, Like it's a quality. I think they're actually
very comparable movies. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, two very directors,
very long vampire stuff. Yeah, and I'm just like, dude,
I really am not a vampire movie for me. It's
just like me too, me too, all right, okay, which

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that's like that? But against sinners or let the right
one in, or even just let.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Me in, let the right one in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Yeah, let the right one either one, either one that
either let me in or the right one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Uh, Sinners or interview with the vampire. I don't really
interview me too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I'm on team centers there, Sinners or lost Boys. I
don't really like the I don't really like anither lost
boys either Sinners or thirty Days of Night, Thy Night.
I'm also on team thirty Days of Night. All right,
So the million dollar question Sinners or from dust till Dawn?

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
From from dust?

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Also in that boat, I think from dust till don
is a little bit more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
What else here? Yeah, Sinners are sailing the other one?

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Yeah, I like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
People hate it, but I love saling. Yeah, I like
it too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Sinners or Bella Lagosi Dracla I mean Sinners, Yeah, Centers, Okay,
let's see, uh Sinners born?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
What else? What's what's another big van fight that I'm
leaving out here?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Sinners or Fright Night, Fright Night, Fright Night, Shadow of
a vampire, Shadow of the vampire.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I like shadow of vampire because it completely different. But
did you ever see the vordal Lock. Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
I still haven't seen the vordal Lock. I still I
actually really do want to see that movie. I've also
el Conte too. I like that movie better than Yes,
there you go I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Have I like that Sinners, this was better Last Voyage
of the Demeter.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I'll see. I love Last Voye of the Demeter, but
I have to give Sinners the edge there.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
So like I don't like move the vampire movies either.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Yeah, I mean well, actually, the more we listed off,
I kind of liked like five like pretty pretty heavy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
I think the reason I liked this was because it
wasn't just a vampire movie. There was so many other
things going on all the side little bits, and maybe
that's why it was slow burn and like there was
so many other like cultural things going on and like
so much other noise to this rather than just like
vampires are almost like a side note until they got
to like the Duke and like kind of invaded all

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that thing and there was all that action for like
twenty minutes and then it was over, Like but it
was all about the characters, and it was about their
stories and about everything else that like it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
I didn't think of this as.

Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
Like it is a vampire movie, but like I didn't
feel like it was mainly about vampires.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
I thought it was cool that they were like bootleggers
and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Yeah, so yeah, that's why because I immediately picked up
on this was like around prohibition times. Yeah, that's that
was what the vibe that I got because when they
when they said that they were in Chicago working for it,
or at least Stack was working for Capone. And I
guess if you do a little bit of like if
you watch I watched, they have like a little ten
minute behind the scenes things on YouTube now that are

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probably gonna be on the Bluey release. So there was
a nugget in there that so Stack worked for Capone,
Smoke worked for the Northern Side Irish gangsters in Chicago.
So they worked for opposing gangster group. Gangsters are opposing
mobsters with the intent of potentially turning them against each other.

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That didn't work out, so they left and came back home.
That's why they have fancy Italian wine and Irish beer.
They were able to procure procure those things from both
sides of the mob in Chicago, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Cool little detail. Yeah that you that they didn't put
in the movie, but that's just like that should have
been in the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
Yeah, yeah right, but because they probably know that young
people don't understand, know, or give a shit about prohivisions,
which is insane.

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
Yeah, it's pretty history.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I mean I untouch or yeah, we boardwalk input.
I love prohibition shit like I actually.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Did the company I work for celebrate Prohibii. Yeah every year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Yeah, so I think this movie is definitely there's a
lot of behind the scenes stuff that you can go on.
Like I said, you can see it on YouTube now
in ten minutes spurts. I'm sure when the Blu ray
comes out, if it's not out already, there'll be a
lot more that's in depth. There's a really big article
where they interview Ryan Coogler in not the most recent
issue of Fangoria that came out, but the one before
that with the David Lynch cover.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
So that's in there too if you want to read
a little bit more about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
But yeah, Coogler's talked a lot about this, and I
mentioned it, but it's clear that this was definitely it's clear.
Two things that I picked up on He's a huge
horror movie nerd, which is awesome. I love directors when
they talk about their hard roots. But he one of
the things that he said that really peaked my interest,
and Matt, this will get you going. He had the
same guy come on for practical effects that did the
practical effects in Green Room, and he said that movie

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was a huge influence on this movie as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Yep, that's one of your favorites. Yep. So he really,
Oh yeah, I would love to talk about that. That
movie's fucking violent, is yeah, that's like brutal, brutal. Yeah,
that's that's that's gretty ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Yeah, but uh lence yeah, and he he like he
It seems like he's the type of guy that will
talk about films and his favorite movies for a long
time because obviously he talks a lot about From Dust
Till Dawn I already mentioned the faculty.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
He also said influencing this we're older older episodes of
the Twilight Zone, which I thought was pretty pretty cool.
Talks a lot about Tarantino, Jordan Peel. He even gives
Christopher Nolan an on screen thank you credit and the
credits because Christopher Nolan movies have been such an influence
on him to Paul m. A, Spike Lee, Francis Ford
Coppola movies of all things. That He also mentioned that
we're you know, inspiration for this uh shot in New

(01:16:55):
Orleans from what I saw. Shot in three months in
New Orleans in the middle of the summer, couldn't have
been very fun, especially wearing all those periods.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Working title for the movie was grilled Cheese. Pretty interesting.
Working title was Grilled Cheese Cougar. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
He basically said that while his previous films are comparable
to cooking complicated dishes, Sinners is more of a simple, enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Dish that anyone can enjoy.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
Okay, cool?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Uh And this is also the second R rated horror
film to be shot with Imax film cameras, the other
one being Jordan Peel's Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Oh cool, Yeah, yep, pretty cool?

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
So this really cool?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
Or yeah? Yeah? And I know a lot of people
what's on theaters? Yeah twice twice. A lot of people
saw it twice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah. I made a lot of money so much. Yeah. Well,
I think probably well in twenty five years, when he
owns it, he'll do a release rob like make some
big boken bucks off. They at that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
That's probably why he did that, so that twenty five
years he owns and that he can release it and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
He gets all the money. Yeah. Yeah, it's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Another thing I saw just to go back to the
music in this too. So he he did also talk
a lot about music and the interviews for this movie,
so obviously he loves blues. He talked a lot about
grunge music and how grunge actually had an influence on
this movie as well, because I think one of his
direct direct quotes was that was that grunge was blues
for white people, which is, you know, accurately spot on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yep. Apparently this this peaked my interest.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Now every time I say that, now, I think we're gonna, Yeah,
I think we're gonna We're.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Gonna beat the ship out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Apparently Metallica had a huge influence on the music of
this movie. When he was laying out the story's rhythm
and beats direct quote from Coogler, I wanted the movie
to have the simplicity and simultaneously the profound nature of
a Delta blues song, but I wanted to have the
contrast variation and the inevitability of a great Metallica song
like one. Uh I figure the song and Lars Ulrich

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actually I guess did some drumming in the orchestra.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
There's a credit for you're the one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
I would say not not a lot of people like Lars,
even even after all the naps or stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
He still like Lars. I love Metallica, so I can't hate.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
I like playing Lars on Guitar Hero as Lars. You
could be Lars on Guitar Hero is a drummer. No,
as like as a character, you could.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Wait, you could play guitar as Lars Alric. That's random.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Yeah, it wasn't Kirk Hammett or James who's the drummer
of the Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Are you sure? I feel like now you're you feel stupid.
It was just some guy named Ars.

Speaker 6 (01:19:47):
His name is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Lars the character.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
While you're looking that up, Lars and the real girl,
what did you guys think of Remick the Irish vampire
as a villain and as a character. Okay, so it
was probably like an homage to Lars Alreay, is it
someone else Lars Mulat Okay, so that that probably drawing

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inspiration from Lars from Metallica. I know we're talking about
I know that character. Yeah, that's not Lars, the drummer
from Metallic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I think I looks like he was a kiss.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
I like when they did their little Irish jig outside.

Speaker 6 (01:20:25):
Yeah, yes, oh that seems that's.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
When you get to see their like fully unleashed as
who they are and everything, because they do their like
little like folksy song like at the door.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
And then when they're doing that, you hear the Irish
brugue and everything, and you're like, Okay, this is what
I was waiting for, like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
And they're playing the rocky Road to Dublin. That was
I love Irish folk music too, and that was a
cool way to tie things in. Everyone dancing around and
the choreography of all that. It was. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
That was when I looked up. But I was playing
my switch to first, but not.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
Like a turnament threatening villain, no no, no, almost kind
of inviting, because I feel like, yeah, I feel like
the way that they the way that he kind of
approached them was like hey he.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Said I mean he said it without like you needed
to be invited in.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Yeah, and that and you're never going to be accepted
in this town based on the color of your skin.
We accept all colors here on our side of the
Vampire River, So you should come join us.

Speaker 6 (01:21:28):
It's great over here, which is a really.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
He just wanted to build an army basis.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was a cool aspect of it,
of the character. But yeah, I mean as the overall
villain of the movie. Thought a little bit underwhelming. Yeah,
cool aspects of him. I thought they could have done
a little bit more with him. Maybe that was one
of the things that actually, now the more that I
say it out loud, I think maybe that was one
of the ways they could have improved this a little bit.
So they made him a little bit more formidable, because

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he really doesn't get that much screen time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
He gets the ones that airy or anything. So it
was cool when when Mary is out there talking to
them trying to see if they actually have money to spend,
and she realizes that something something's sucking up and she
walks away, and all of a sudden, he just like
leaps up in the air.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
And then yeah, yeah, that was cool because you only
see that after she's hooking up with fucking uh Stack,
and then you see that she got a bite taking
out of her shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
A lot of a lot of fugging in this movie too,
a lot of a lot of a lot of sex
going on here to fucking Haley Hailey Steinfeld spinning in
Michael B. Jordan's mouth and talking about all sorts of
sexual sexual Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Thank you for saying it out loud. Yeah you said it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Apparently clicking buttons and everything automatic. Guys, what else on
on Sinners? Is there any any ground that we didn't cover?
Anything else that we want to get out there? But
the last corner with the Yeah, yeah, that's that's a
good way to end it, between that and predator penis

(01:23:04):
and what else to do?

Speaker 6 (01:23:07):
I have a coup of Michaels. I'll send it to
the inframe it once you draw the predator mm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Hmm, there we go. Look like a duck dick basically
they have like a long little like look it up.
It's weird. They like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
It's like a lot like they literally like look it up,
Like d will be over there, the other.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Dove will go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
It'll just you know, come out and went and just
like come up out of nowhere like the predators.

Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
Predators so I need to be careful whenever I'm around
ducks and the.

Speaker 6 (01:23:42):
Water and the water.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
One one little, one little thing I did especially and Andres.
Since you said not not about duck dicks, but since
you said you were you were not a fan of
Hailey Steinfeld in this movie. Apparently Halsey read for read
the script and tried out for this role, ultimately did
not end up taking it. Would you have been more
intrigued in her character if it was Halsey as so

(01:24:06):
she I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Know what she is for. I mean, she's musically talented,
but is she an actress?

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
She was in Vaccine, Oh that's right, Yeah, this is
a movie that was underwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yeah, yeah, there would have been got she was in that, Yes,
so would have been different, it would have been interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
I think that she doesn't look as.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I thought she was fine for what the role was.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
She was super annoying her her characters annoy her accent too,
was terrible. Her characters if she was meant to be
I mean, she didn't do a good job of playing
annoying person.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Super annoying.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
Yeah, she's a bad person in the movie. Yeah, she's
a shitty character.

Speaker 7 (01:24:41):
I think she did good because she made you kind
of dislike her.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
She wasn't really a bad person in the movie. She
kind of got sucked over by Michael B.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Jordan's Well yeah, she's like, yes, you can see why.
Yeah's annoying. Yeah, he said, he says.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
He says straight up to her though, that like, hey,
like you would have never been safe me. I hooked
you up with a rich white husband because I love
you and I wanted you to be safe, and it
would you were never going to be safe with me,
So technically he I mean, he didn't go about it
in the best way.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
He was looking out for Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Okay, So actually, while we're talking about characters we didn't like,
we should talk about characters that we did like, like
Little Side characters, Cornbread and Delta slim a plus characters
they were awesome. Yeah, poor corn Bread, he didn't he could.
I wish there was more Cornbread than this movie. The
door Yeah, he's a door man. The scene where Stack
rolls up when Cornbread's in the field and his wife

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is there and they're trying to get him to come
go do that. That was a fucking That was pretty
That was pretty funny. Yeah, that was a good scene.
Good stuff there, and then obviously the the role of
Oh my god, the cousin.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I mean, musically very talented, and I thought he was
very good too.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
That song that he sings is fantastic, dude, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Yeah. No, it's really well. Like the music, like he said, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
Like traveler or something. It's like traveling.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
It's like something like taking home in your arms whatever.
But like that was super fucking cool.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:26:17):
I love the end when he's like older, and like
I didn't I didn't see the end coming. I didn't
see that there was going to be like that end coming.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
So that was I was like, oh, ship, tell you
got that, guys. I was watching till the very end.
I don't know. Post credits, yeah, clearly credits. Yeah, uh.
And like midea.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
So the whole Center soundtrack obviously is on streaming platform,
so it's on Spotify. That song is called Traveling by
by Miles Cat and yeah, it's really good and it's yeah,
there's a lot of good and then so Travelers one
thing is really good. And then they got that little
like stomp thing pearline. She was she was pretty good. Yeah,
his love interest, and then he has then other song

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I Lied to You. I think that's the song that
he was singing when they had that big dance number
that flashed forward to all sorts of yeah, like electric
guitars and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:27:08):
I mean that seemed like it was it mean, do
they have like doppelgangers like everyone has confused?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Yeah. I was like I don't really get.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
This part everyone who was dancing and I was like,
are they on drug?

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
Well that's what reminded me of Climax, And this looks
like Climax, Like it's just like a big one shot
like dance piece where everyone's going nuts. The music's crazy,
it's loud and everything like that, and I was like,
this is cool, but I was like I don't really
understand what going on.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
Yeah, what what is I supposed to get from this?

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Like yeah, I mean you have that one guy like
coming out with the electric I'm like, yeah, well, no,
that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
That it was the whole Yeah. I was like, this
is the past present. Yeah, it's got to be. So
they bring it up at the very beginning of the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Yeah, talking about that like the back yes, like the
opening of the movie is basically like it's Annie doing
a voiceover saying that there's there's I forget what they
call people. The music was so good and striking that
it was able to draw together past president future, drawing
together good and also evil, which is what draws the
vampires to the juke joint in the first place. So

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I having seen that in the beginning, I can see
why some people would think it was a jarring thing.
And it definitely is like you're at first like what
the fuck, and then all of a sudden you're like, Okay,
now I see what's going on. I see what they're
trying to do, which it certainly was certainly an interesting
way to present all that, and like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
That, you know, it's definitely a love letter to music.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, yeah, well good stuff, good stuff. So Sinners definitely
worth your time. I would say a fun movie, absolutely,
because that's what you're looking for when you're watching movies,
probably in for most people, is just to have some fun.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
This is a fun movie. Yeah, it's it's an enjoyable watch.
It's long as ship, but yeah, and it's not long
as shit, but it is long as shit. It goes
by slow, but definitely watch it. It's worth it's worth
a watch. Yeah, it's definitely worth watch. It's not it's
not bad by any means what Rotten Tomatoes is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Would you watch it? Would you? Yes? Yeah, that's a
little it's a binary thing. You did you like it?
Yes or no? Yes or no?

Speaker 7 (01:29:13):
And I did too, And like, but I want to
hear I'm like, whenever we released this, like comment on
our stuff and be like, hey, I thought of this,
because like I kind of want to see what other
people thought too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Yeah, Yeah, this was definitely a move the movie that
I think, at least to me, the most people asked about.
So I know Seano is a big fan of this movie.
I know our buddy James wanted to hear what we
thought about this.

Speaker 7 (01:29:33):
And I'm kind of to see what everyone else thinks too,
Like I want to kind of talk about it a
little bit longer with more people.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
Yeah, we got to share our two sins for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Yeah. It's to get back on the mic for a while.
And I'm very happy that we came back with this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
It's certainly there's a lot to talk about here, so
it was a good way to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
And there's a lot a lot of points to discuss
in full force, full force interest, peaked, fully peaked, fully erect.
I got some come up with some shirts.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
It's like I got peaked with America's home on Peak,
in America Peak, listening to America.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Just lots of There's been lots of dick talk tonight
to between duck dicks and predator dicks and peaking, and
then yeah, a lot of cunnel English.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Like sweaty, A lot of talk about cuddlings. They were
like dancing in that sweaty place.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Any linguist, I get a white But plus it's also yeah,
plus it's like nineteen thirty, so it's like when is
the last time she usually like a good shower.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
They loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Yes, I want to know to end on their folks,
I want to note on Well, guys, that's our post
mid credits.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
Yeah, that's our focus, that's our.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
That's our posts apple. Well, guys, we did it. We're back.
Flap for us, very concise, very incise.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Thank good job everybody, and uh hey, thanks for listening
to another episode of America's Hometown Horror. I genuinely mean
that it's good to be back and I'm looking forward
to doing a little bit more of this in the
coming months.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Like we said, we'll be back in August.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I hope you guys enjoyed this episode as much as
we did recording it. And uh yeah, give us some
feedback on the episode. Give us a call, leave us
a voicemail, comment on our social media, writ us an email.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Anything would be cool, that'd be really fun. Good evening. Yeah, well,
my name is Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I've been joined by Matt, Andrew and Kat Lady gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
One final good evening to you all. Good evening, everybody listening,
and welcome back. Bye bye. Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
It's Mike from America's Hometown Horror, and I want to
say thanks again for listening to another episode of our show.
If you're interested in more local Plymouth podcasts, i'd highly
recommend you check out the show from our friends over
on the Inebriart podcast network. In addition to America's Hometown Horror,
you can find shows from Inebriart, The Old Colony Cast,
Bar Talk, Theme Park Legends, and Retrodoctopus.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
So head on over and give them a listen.

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