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Speaker 2 (02:48):
Good old Shauno. It's up, buddy, Hi fellow, what's up
all right?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So? And also in studio here with me tonight, I
have Andrew and Kat Lady.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Gentlemen, Hi, how are you doing great. We're in the
dog days of winter, dog days of winner.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It feels like it's been a long week because we
are about less than forty eight hours removed from recording
our top ten of the of the Year of Top
ten Horror Movies of twenty twenty four episode because Andrew,
of course, is going to Havai in just a few
short days, and we're gonna have We're gonna have no
Andrew and no match during that week. So we're trying
to record a couple episodes this week and get them
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out as soon as we.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Get them out.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I get up, pick it up, pick get up.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah. How do we all feel about the top ten episode? Guys?
We have fun doing it. Yeah, I loved it. Isn't
it that one again? Yeah, it'd be fun. Always the
best episode of the year. I think world at least
the most fun. I think so too.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes, I agree, requires the most preparation, but probably also
the most rewarding.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I think that I didn't draft, but I picked I
picked well. Yes, I think that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, you certainly did not draft because it was not
a draft.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, I picked well.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You did pick well.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think you might be the only person out there
that had Twisters definitely the only person on this podcast
that had Twisters as their number one horror film of
the year, but probably also the only person that's ever
had Twisters is their number one horror Film twenty twenty four,
considering it's not really a horror.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Film, but I'll get I'll allow it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Because it's your natural disasters.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The natural disasters are scary, so I mean some there
are people out there that probably be like I've heard
that and we're like, whoa, oh my god, what a
picture's so right? Yeah, probam, just like what the fuck
is you talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Twisters? All the way? I want to see it again.
It's streaming now.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I believe it is. I think I saw.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I think it had rented, though I don't know if
it was still.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
When it's for free, that's gonna be one of those
movies that I, yeah, like five years ago, I'll probably watch.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It, you know, oh my god, definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That it is streaming on Peacock right now. Oh for
free free? Oh perfect, hoe free.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So we watch it again so hard.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Like that, like the first one's like some magical movie,
but it's such a much. I just I feel like
the first one, it's hard to.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
It is it is, And you know what I liked
about it is that it's it didn't try to completely
be the first one. There's a lot of references to
the first one. Obviously, but it kind of made its own,
which I I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I think the first movie is is a classic.
It's one of those movies that it's like shosh Ank
Redemption or The Mummy when it's on TV. I'm leaving
it on TV one thousand percent of all time.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The Steak, Yeah, steak and eggs and ash potatoes for breakfast. Yeah,
that steak did look absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Food. Food, dude.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So many people in that movie are dead now, Bill Paxton,
Philip Seymour Hoffman, most the Gold, Oh yeah, that Gold definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
At this point, poor Doug.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah, Helen Hunt.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Helen Hunt is still alive very much. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Well she's not the wait is she in Twisters?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No? No, she wasn't in Twisters? What is she?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
How old is she? Eighty five?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Eighty five, she's probably like sixty eight. No movie, She's
gotta you live in Okay, real answers, How old do
you think?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Seventy three?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Seventy three? Andrew sixty she's seventy she's sixty one.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Okay, wow, Twisters?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So Twisters was in ninety six. She was born in
nineteen sixty three. So that's thirty three. In Twister, she
was old. Yeah, yeah, weird.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
You know it's before botox and all the brown.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Thirty three doesn't really need botox at thirty three, now
you shouldn't. Nobody needs botox at thirty three.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Not enough makeup. I don't know. Maybe she needs more
maybe drink more water.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I mean maybe it was maybe Also maybe it was
the roles she was just laying. She just traded, looked
like a just kind of Yeah, she's supposed to like
country girl, let's chase like Charlie Starn.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Like she wasn't you know the other girlfriend who could
never spend could oh I know, yep, yep Seinfeld reference there.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Of course she sucked. I mean she was good because
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Good good Twister and Twisters talk here, guys, very good stuff.
I feel very confident in my my number one pick
of the substance this year, which cat you still to
see that.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Big, biggest surprise of the night for me Andrew was
Audity at number one. I'm not expecting, you know. I
had to go. I had to stay true to myself
because like a substance.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Sure, I could have gone Terrified three road, even though
that wasn't even my top ten, which was weird poor
like no was it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Terrify You didn't both running my top ten. Yeah, that's wild.
I had to stay true to my convictions.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And that movie generally genuinely keep saying generally genuinely scared
me when I watched it. Yeah, and for that I
give it an a plus because if you can, it's
hard to be scared, not like just and it was
like a jump scare. I mean, there was a couple
of jump scares in that, but.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
It's like a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Vibes the whole time. Very well done.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So do you have nightmares about this movie?
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Since we did record that episode. The other day, Bloody
Disgusting did publish. I guess Letterbox released their ten highest
rated horror movies on the platform of the year. This
is reviewed by you know users on the site. So
number ten was strange, darling. Number nine was Your Monster,
which I have not heard of. Number eight was I
Saw the TV Glow, which was very popular this year
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but did not make any of our lists. Number seven
was Ezema, which didn't make any of our lists either,
and I still have yet to see that. That's still
on my list to watch. Number six Alien Romulus, number
five Chime, which I also have not heard of.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Number four is I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
To pronounce this, but Brahma Brahma Yogam, which I believe
according to this here is an Indian Malaysian language movie.
Interesting excuse me, Indian mile Yeah Maba Yalam language movie,
which similarly has not been released the United States. Spelled
the name of that movie for uh, it is b
r A m A y u g a M Brahma
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you Gam.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think it is. Yeah, so that's why it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Was not available four in India.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So it's not.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Very well because we do it based off when you
are actually but it's available to be rented to us
and normal people.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Uh so, yeah, that was at number four. Number three
was another movie critics and stuff like that. And let's
say number three is a movie called Dead Talents Society,
which is the Taiwanese horror comedy that has also not
been released.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
In North America yet has only been making its debut
at festivals. Number two The Substance and number one Knows
Faratu the highest rated horror movie of the year on letterbox,
which is which is fair substance one. Yeah, one too.
That's I mean, I think it's pretty pretty consistent.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Prized long Legs wasn't on that list, but I feel
like a lot of people did not like long It
was very divisive.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Gave you don't let me not twice but as many
at times as you probably do you do do it
better do do do do? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So we're on the twenty twenty five officially here now
in twenty twenty four is behind us, and this is
our first episode sans Matthew, which if you listen to
our last episode, you know matt has to take a
little bit of time off as he's getting into a
busy period in his life, but he will be back
at some point. So we look forward to having Matthew back,
and we miss you already, buddy.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
But uh cool, we need to get that doll.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh yes, we need to get the Matthew doll to
sit in the chair next to us.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I'm gonna I'm gonna do something.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We can get the doll from the oddity, But that thing,
oh my god, I don't want that in my house,
No fucking way.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just get a matte, fathead and just put it on
the wall like just stick it on.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The wall, give me, give me tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, okay, enough, Yeah, so with that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Game, Yeah, he suggested, like the Dennis Reynolds Max Dennis
Reynolds sex doll from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia that
I also would be a pretty funny call too, So
all right.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
We'll figure something out.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I got no news tonight and our entire last episode
wuch of what was a watch list? So I don't
have anything on either of those topics.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You know, I kind of I remebgot saying this. I
kind of missed the news just.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Because I kind of hate Wow that I can't banter
about how much I hate the news.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
So basically, you never have any news now you.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Just like to make fun of me. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah,
I figured that was the case.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, the reason we don't do the news that much
anymore is because we usually try and record a little
bit ahead of time. So sometimes when we do news
on a podcast and it comes out several weeks later,
it's no longer timely.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
So you know, it is what it is, but we
still are able to give our opinion on that news,
which I think is what's more important than the is itself.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, I mean, I mean, you don't need to bring
back the news.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Maybe we can, maybe we can toy around with that
format since we don't have a fourth person in here
taking talking.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, events that type. I mean, I did watch Mad
Max Furiosa.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Not a horror movie, but yeah, that was a very
good twenty twenty five today.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Actually, Mad Max Furiosa.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Cool. Yeah, it was very interesting.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Well, they had Fury Road came out like ten years ago,
and then they had the ones with Mel Gibson from
the eighties.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Was the one or two?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh, there was at least two in the eighties, or
it was under well Mad Max and then Mad Max Thunderdome.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think, ye, so there's I think too Mad Max
Welcome to Die, I believe. Yeah, what fuck it. I'll
just scroll right through my my good old trusty, bloody
disgusting mobile application here and see if I can find.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I didn't mean, I didn't mean to bad.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Can't take it back.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Actually, cat here you go. Here's something for you. I
don't know if this will excite you or not. Kevin Williamson,
who of course is the person most famous for being
the voice of Ghostface in the Scream Movies is directing
the new Scream movie, and he posted on social media
on excuse me January seventh, that filming on Scream seven
has begun.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Nice seven screen movies. This is Scream seven that's coming, right.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
It's been thirty seven right, Yeah, it's been one every
year from the last five years.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, took a break for like ten years, fifteen years,
and then all of a sudden, you're coming up new screen
movies like.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Cash Grabs. Fine, Oh, here's one that that popped up too.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
This actually I feel like broke a couple of weeks ago,
but I still find it interesting to hear that they
Luca Guadagino, who was directed.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He did Suspirit, the Suspiria remake.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
He did that Challengers tennis movie. He also did Bones
and all I know, Matt really loved it, so he's
a good director. He's doing a remake of American Psycho
and Austin Butler's.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
There hasn't been any like confirmation on that, let's see.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
According to Blood Disgusting, it was reported back in December
that Austin Butler would be playing the role of Patrick Bateman,
a new movie adaptation of the Brett Easton Ellis novel.
Those reports are now being disputed by the author himself,
so maybe it's in his own words, he suggests the
report is quote fake news. I have a feeling it's
fake news, he said, I heard somewhere from someone. There
are no contracts. Austin Butler hasn't signed anything to play
Patrick Bate, so.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I feel like he'd be a good Patrick Bateman. Austin
but he's a cool actor, handsome dude, handsome dude. He's
got the charisma to play Patrick Bateman, I think.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Also, another another little piece of news here.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So the Wolfman movie's coming out in a few short days,
and I really do want to see it. And I
gotta say, the marketing around this movie is fucking so weird,
because Universal did drop a video today, like a minute
and a half video that shows the full transformation and
the full look of the creature at.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
More than movie.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I don't know see that, So it's really strange that
they ought to do that. I really, I really don't
feel like they're doing the movie any favors.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
You gotta wonder sometime who's in charge of these Yeah,
A bunch of gen z. During the workplace is making
terrible decisions fired.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I would imagine that Lee Wonnell, who's directing that movie,
is probably not very happy that that was the case.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh and apparently as of this recording, there is a
new documentary dropping that you can rent uh tomorrow on
January eighth, so overy the time people listen to this,
it will be out. It's a documentary about George A.
Romero's unmade Resident Evil movie. That sounds pretty interesting. I
would watch that.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yea. Cool? Cool? How about that cat news you excited
just a little news your.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Andrew my.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
To loop up your creative muscles for discussion on horror
exactly you were going, Andrew to talk.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Destroy the dinosaur on top of Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I don't know what that was. I don't know if
the microphone picked that up, but that dino just took
a tumble. Yeah, it just exploded everywhere.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Well, I bought Mike a toy dinosaur for his birthday
that was perched on top of the for Andrew. Just
that's right, clumsily knocked over and broken a five pieces
for more n.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I'm a thirty eight year old man that received a
dinosaur toy on his thirty eighth bird.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
He also received jows lego. I also received jows legos
on the birthday episode. Yeah, if you want a glass,
you can have one, because you know what, this is
actually a pretty good time. Anyway. Now that we're going to.
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Com All right, we're back and this is actually this
should be a fun one tonight, just because so we
needed a we need a pick on short turn around time.
So we optened to go with a movie that we
had all seen, and it was Cat's pick. She had
not picked in quite a while. And we're gonna talk
in more detail about a movie that I think made.
It made my top ten, It made Cat's top ten,
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did not make Matt or Andrews.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Did it make Matts? I don't remember. I don't I
don't think it did. You don't remember what happened? You
had it like top three? Right?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I was like, yeah, I think my top two.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Do you remember when you put it? See, I definitely
had it in my top ten. I think I had it.
I think I had at number five, like right, smack
in the middle of my top time. Oh no, I
think I was like, And of course, if I have
not mentioned already, that movie is smile too or smile again,
A bigger smile, yes, a wide grin the next shit
(18:27):
number four? All right, so I had it five, You
had it at four? Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Uh, smile too, By the way, is a twenty twenty
four American psychological, supernatural horror film written and directed by
Parker Finn, who also wrote and directed the original Smile
movie back in twenty twenty two, a movie that we
all really liked a lot. A sequel to Smile, the
film stars Naomi Scott as a pop star who begins
to experience a series of increasingly disturbing events just as
she's about to embark on a worldwide tour. Also features
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In addition to Naomi Scott, Rosemary Dewitch, who plays Naomi
Scott's mother, Lucas Gage Miles Guccia, there is Riley Peter Jacobson,
Ray Nicholson, Dylan Galula, and Raoul Castillo, with Kyle Gollner
reprising his role from the first film. Kyle Gollner, by
the way, only actor to reprise his role from the
first film, and he's in it for a short amount
(19:15):
of time. I would say, which is too bad because
I really like his character, I really like the actor.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
But that's kind of a spoiler.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So if you haven't seen that movie at this point,
fuck you, I guess, And that's spoiled now.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But this movie rocks. It's streaming on Paramount.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Plus he had an eighty six percent score from critics
on Rotten Tomatoes and an eighty one percent audience score,
which I find to be a little bit low.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I thought it would have been higher for that for
the audience. Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Budget was twenty eight million dollars and at the box
office returned a cool one hundred and thirty eight point
one million dollars.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I think one thing we're definitely going to start to
see what you're already seeing, is a lot more horror
movies for the sheer fact that they are proving that
they are.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You can make good money on those, oh for sure,
like right now.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yep, And I think I think so. Paramount has released
both of these movies. The first, Smile was originally supposed
to be released directly onto Paramount Plus, but they opted
for a theatrical release, and I think that did a
whole lot of favors for the movie. Paramount Plus, by
the way, in March of twenty twenty three, following the
success of Smile, signed Parker Finn to a first look
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deal with Paramount Pictures to develop additional horror projects. So
I think he will be exclusively creating horror movies for
Paramount for the Foreseeable Future, which I'm sure will include
more Smile movies after this one.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
If I had to, it'll be a Smile three. No
One can hear you smile, No one can hear you smile.
I like that, Jason. I like that Space.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Aliens no One joke like, no one can hear you.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes, yes, it's a joke. That's not a real Smile
three Season of the Witch, Smile three. This time it's
personal Smile three The Quest for Peace.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
God.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So anyway, so Smile Too, really good movie, Kat, you
picked it.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Give us your a little little bit of.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Your thoughts on Smile Too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Good woman.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I was pressured to pick a movie at a BBC
pressure off, and so I was like, we all, it
was actually not going to be it was going to
be Winn of the Pooh Blood Honey Too. But Andrew
D this was an easy pick and it's a great movie,
and it's relevant, it's new, it's a great sequel, and actually,
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during art not draft top ten.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I completely picked this movie.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
And then I blanked on the entire movie as I
picked it, and all of a sudden, Mike started talking
like I was like, yeah, people smile, Oh my god,
people smiling, and it's I'm just like, not even here
right now? I'm like, what is going on? And then
all of a sudden, Ike's like, oh, it's the celebrity
and this what I was like, Oh my god, yes,
oh I'm so stupid. I'm like, I actually I did
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watch this movie. I just completely, like stage right, blanked on,
like what this movie was? Completely so.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I wanted to give this a little bit of justice.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, well you certainly did that opening right, and here
we are and here we are, here we.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Are, and away we go. Ye Smile too.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think I think the first Smile movie was just
such a surprise and we all loved it. I think
we were all kind of blown away. And if you
go back and listen to the episode, which I did
not do in preparation for this, but I think we
were all genuinely surprised and genuinely happy with how good
that first movie actually was. Yeah, And I thought at
the time, what it was one of those movies that
you know, kind of caught lightning in a bottle and
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we would probably get a sequel, that the sequel would
probably be dog shit. And it turns out that that was,
in fact not the case, because this is actually, like
you said, Kat, I think an excellent sequel. I think
it's right up there with the first one. This does
a good job of expanding the world of you know
and expanding on the lore of the Smile curse, virus,
whatever you want to call it. And this is just
as effective with the scares. I think this ramps up
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the kills and the gore and this one quite a bit.
It's just some fucking gnarly kills than some really effective scares.
And I just I really enjoyed this movie a lot,
and as a reason it made it into my top
five of the year.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I was I was continued to.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Be impressed with both of these movies. And I think
also you have to now talk about Parker Finn, who
wrote and directed both of these movies, as a director
to watch, and I hope that he is able to
continue to do some successful stuff with the Smile movies,
but I hope he's also able to do some stuff
outside of those and not just pigeonhole himself into these
movies souse. I feel like he does some good stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
If you have the chops to do these two movies,
I think he'll be more than coming up with He's
just coming up with original ideas, which is tough, which
is more appreciated too than people doing remakes. Like this
original concept yeah, which you can't say enough about.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
It's nice. It's creative, very unique.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Very very scary. These movies are very scary.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It's similar to the I said the sale night.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
It's similar to it follows very similar, yeah, like same
kind of same kind of storyline, ish bit's idea, like
the whole idea of.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Yeah, well it's a strange virus whatever you want to
call it that you pass on that we still haven't
gotten like how this even originated. So I think that
would be if they're going to do a third one,
I would prefer like a prequel to like where did
it start?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's like, be like that would be cool. Yeah, that
would be an interesting way to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think the only thing that they really gave us
like that at all was in the first one, because
I know, remember this was based on a short film.
The first one was just basically which is it's the
opening scene of the first movie where it's a woman
in a psychologist's office and that's how it gets started.
So I don't know, obviously, she had to have gotten
it from somewhere. But maybe they expand on that in
the short. I don't think they do because I watched that. No,
I'm saying maybe they expand on like the like how
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the person the psychologist would think it's some sort.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Of like an ancient evil demon that's been existing.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I think it's going to be disappointing if you find
out where it originally it's.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That's gonna be so. I think that depends on if
you do it a good job.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
If you do a good job of it, it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Galaxy, an interdimensional exactly. That's what I mean. I would
be so disappointed if that was the case. I'd be
like this movie.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So that's why I think it came from lizard people.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
No, it's better to just come up with theories about
where you think it might originated, more so than knowing
how it actually So.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Maybe the Grinch the unknown because.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
He's always upset. He's not smiling. Ever, it was.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Max the Grinches dog. Yes, it's dog.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Smile Max, a good dog.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Don't know all the dogs smiles. Dogs smile at you.
You smile back at that, That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I don't know why Max puts up with all of
the grenches bullshit, and if I were him, I'd just
try and find a new owner. But that's a different
story for a different podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Maybe maybe he's.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Fed wells on the tears of children.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I have a hard time believing that the Grinch would,
you know, create gourmet meals for his dog.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Maybe he would because he's the only person that he loves.
It's true, he hates everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Maybe the Grinch is stealing the roast Beast and the
cans of who hash and giving them some mess.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The roast Beast, the roast, he took.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
The who's feast overcast, he took the roast beast.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Question for you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Because this is so simply like a very similar concept
to it follows.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So it follows.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
The first one came out in twenty fourteen. Smile comes
out in twenty twenty two. After that movie's released, we
obviously get Smile too, but we also get announced that
they're going to make a long awaited sequel to It follows.
Do you think the success of Smile and how similar
it was to It Follows kind of led to It
Follows getting a sequel?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Oh, one hundred percent. Yeah, Because I mean it waited
a while. Yeah, I mean, that's a long time to
start doing this, even think about doing this.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Right, yea, yeah, I feel like, I mean, that movie
stands on its own very well.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But that only doesn't need I really hope that they
don't fuck that. Yeah, yeah, because that doesn't need it. No,
it doesn't neither did smile.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I mean, I'm of the opinion that no movie really
needs a sequel unless it's like an adventure movie or like,
you know, like Star Wars, like off, like it's like
a sci fi terrify terrifier.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It doesn't didn't need it, but it actually did.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yes, it did better because the first one is, you know,
such a lower budget.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
The other two. Yeah, I guess you, I guess maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
See so, Andrew, I know that this did not make
your top ten list? Was Was it just because you
like other things that much better? Were the things that
you just didn't enjoy as much about this movie? Or
what did you think of I thought it was really good.
I thought it was very similar to the first one. Yeah,
in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
The I mean it was it was pretty much the
same movie, just different setting, bigger scale, bigger scale.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Still very well done.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
But I felt there were so many other movies this
year that deserved that weren't sequels, that were just I think,
more original, because that's still an like it's original because.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
He made it's his creation creation. It's original, but it's
not originally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Like he's basically piggybacking off of the success of the
original movie, which is fine. It's still a fucking nominal movie.
It was in my top I had like fifteen to
twenty movies in my top ten, and I had to
just like swing them down. And I felt like too,
there was movies that I liked more. If I like
the movie more, that's why it's going to get higher. Yeah,
it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that it's a better movie.
(28:15):
I just enjoyed it. Yeah, I for different reasons, and
those reasons can vary from anything.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh yeah, all of us.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That's the thing we try and convey with our top
ten lists every year is it's not like, you know,
we're not you know, official professional movie critics. These are
our lists of our personal favorite movies of the year. Now,
some of those might cross over with what people might
think are the best heart movies of the year. But
we're not doing the best heart, We're doing our favorite
What do I like my top ten of the year?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And if I just if we just went based off
of the list that Mike pulled up for you know
that it would be the most boring episode and everyone
have the same answers, and then that would just be.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
No one wants to hear that. You know what makes
And it also gives flowers, gives up flowers to other
movies that people might not know about, like The Two,
The Two or Stall the Motion.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It should have been win guys, it should have just
been Winnie the Poop Poop.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Winnie the Pooh Pooh too. We need the pooh this time.
It's this time it's stomach cancer loose, just like coming out.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Of that we have we talked about We talk about
Winnie the Pooh so much on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
We talk about the weather.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Angel the weather, yeah yeah, or browsers or food recipes,
or fancy football, or complain about not the right people
scoring touchdowns with football in on the background.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
If we recording a Monday or Thursday night, all of
those things. You can put those on your America's Hometown
Horror Bingo card. We'll go from there. So we should
do that. You should make up a Bengo list that
people can and we can.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You know, that's a great idea.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Post it on the Instagram page and they can be like,
this is your Bingo card for this week.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Winner gets chicken dinner. I don't know, Winter Winter gets
chicken or something out down the road. It's dinner.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
There you go, but you can't get I've only been
a Chick.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Fil a once.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I went once.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
I drove through myself once. Ever, the other time you've
gotten it and brought it home.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
They make a good chicken sandwich. It's not the it's
not the most earth shattering chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Cafc's chicken sandwich is better. See I've never had a
Popeye's chicken sandwich.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I love Popeyes and so much I.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Love chicken sandwiches, so I would try any chicken sandwich
from anywhere. But one of the things that I thought
was cool about this movie, obviously we mentioned that the
the it's a It's definitely this movie operates on a
bigger scale, and it's it's a it's more less of
a contained.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Like a it's a bigger story than it is in
the first movie.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Jesus spit it out mic for Christison, Yeah, exactly. So
the the main the lead actress, Naomi Scott plays a
pop star whose name is Sky Riley, and she's coming
off of a personal tragedy in her life that saw
the death of her boyfriend, a stint in rehab, and
she's kind of getting out of rehab, trying to manage her.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Demons quote unquote, uh.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Huh, and getting ready to embark on a giant worldwide tour.
And the cool thing about this so Naomi Scott, I guess,
actually also as a singer, and so she did all
of the singing, all of the actual like the dance
routines and everything. She did all the past star I guess.
Parker Finn has said, like, you know, she's more known
for her acting, but I guess she did do some
(31:35):
like pop star singing stuff. She was an actress like
Disney Channel when she was younger and stuff like that.
She just have a musical background but has chosen to
focus more on acting now in her career. But like
she actually like did somebody wrote the songs for her,
but she did actually sing the songs. And they did
release like the songs from sky Riley like on so
(31:55):
you can go on Spotify and listen to the sky
Riley like songs from the movie, like they're actually on there.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You can go and do that, which I thought was
kind of cool. It's like any movie soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, and I thought so, like the biggest comparison I
would draw to her character, like I kind of thought
she with the hair and the messed up past, she
reminded me a lot of like Miley Cyrus, and Miley
Cyrus kind of had a similar like I shouldn't as
much tragedy, but I know she had some substance abuse
issues and struggle with addiction that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So she reminded me a lot of Miley Cyrus.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
But I guess that Naomi Scott modeled sky Riley after
Lady Gaga, which I.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Think also really makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know, dancing and the music, the big stage, yeah, yep,
and some cool little East eggs that you can pick
up on. I have to rewatch the movie to see this,
But in reading about it, when she's scrolling through her
contacts in her phone, at one point, she has Lady
Gaga in her phone as a contact. She also has Beyonce,
Adele and Doja Cat in her phone as contacts, which
(32:50):
is kind of a cool little thing, cool little nod there.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I mean, you could just rename Andrew's Dojacat and you
can be just as cool as her.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I don't even know who Doja Cat is. Like one
song or two, maybe two songs.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You love her. She's your girl, Mike.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
She's not my girl.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She is cat Cat shaboozy, my girl cat, my girl
always the time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I know she does paint the town red.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
No, he just thinks that she's pretty.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Doja I don't even know what Doja Cat looks like.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Oh my gosh, you always say that, you say, liket you.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
So I know paint. I know, paint the town red.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And I know she has that Kissed Me More song,
the two songs that I know by Doja Cat.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
It's your girl.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's my girl.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Doja Cat is my girl.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Sounds so hip and cool saying that kids, right, Yeah,
I got the riz. What's up?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
You don't you don't just you don't.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
You don't have Her real name is Amala Rottena Zandilly Diamani.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
No one know why she goes by doja cat. It's weird.
That's a mouthful right there. I don't even know if
I said that.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
All if you have rizz you don't say that you have.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Okay, we're not using your word riz.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I used to, I used to, I used to have
anyone who has.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
The Wrizzler.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I was like, I was intentionally trying to sound like
an old dork there.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Thanks for picking up on that.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
The joke just sore from the Twizzler the Wrizzler. You
don't know who the wristler is.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
The Wrizzler.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's a real person. Know what are the Costco guys?
Oh god?
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Oh no, no, no, the youngest like the youngest, No.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
No, I will not be noticed that in a way.
The chocolate chocolate chunk coolkie. He's one of those guys,
the Costco.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
That guy's gonna one day murder his entire family, seems
his those eyes.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Let's see a couple of the cool things about this movie.
So Parker Finn cast Jack Nicholson's son Ray Nicholson as
Paul Sky, Riley's dead boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Do you think they had him just come in and
go smile? For us, and when he did that, they
were like, you're hired. Yeah, I mean maybe that smiles.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You know what's great is when you're standing way away
from the microphone and you're speaking into it from from
six feet away. That's when everybody can really hear what
you're saying. For sure.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Oh yeah, he was really put there on purpose.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I think he was.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Parker Finns did cast him in the movie as an
homage to Jack Nicholson's memorable role in Stephen King's The
Shining obviously from nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Has he been in anything else?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I'm not sure Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson clearly has anger management.
Ray Nicholson actually solid a great movie Let's See. Ray
Nicholson was a pretty that maybe as good as.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
He gets as.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
He was in Let's See.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
He was in Licorice Pizza, which was that Paul Thomas
Anderson movie from a couple of years ago that had
Coopy of Twizzlers.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, Cooper Hoffman, the Rizzler, the rizzlor Baby.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But yeah, he hasn't been He hasn't been in many
other things. So maybe this is like a real actor. Yeah,
maybe this will be an He in his short role.
Like in the car ride. Oh yeah, that scene was fucked.
That was really fucked.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But when they flash back to the car crash scene
that kills sky Riley's boyfriend, uh, and they're just like
fighting each other in the car, all fucked up on
drugs and they drive off that cliff. That was messed
up for sure. Really cool scenes in this movie, though,
Like I think it kind of starts off with a bang.
Once you kind of get her backstory, she goes to
that drug dealer that she knows one of her friends
from high school, goes to buy the drugs. The kids
(36:26):
just like freaking the fuck out because didn't she thinks
he's just on the drugs that he's selling, and it
turns out he has the smile virus himself and proceeds
to bash his own face in with a bar bell,
which is a brutal kill at the end of the movie.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah, that's the only thing that I questioned in these movies,
is no one in the right mind if they had
a demon chasing them and they didn't know what to
do and they like, I want to kill myself, would
do that?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
No, because that the demon is then they.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Possesses him, so but it's like just makes so every
crit kills to be brutal, because when we jump out
your window or something, right.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
You know, because the demon's doing that, the demon that
has control and then kills the hosts, and then ever
they see moves on to the next two. Y it
just seems like it doesn't happen tops from one body to.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
The other, because makes it a better movie those kills
more interesting.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
One other thing that I read, there's a part in
the film. I forget exactly what happens, but Sky actually
says something happens. It's maybe after she she she does something.
It might be after she she knocks the old lady
off the stage. In that scene with Ray Nicholson. That's
actually also a really good scene too. She says to
herself or to somebody else, this is gonna this is
(37:32):
going to ruin the tour, which is apparently famously what
Justin Timberlake said to the cop that pulled him over
when he got his DUI arrest a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Oh really, I didn't know that. That's a good little tidbit.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, you pulled over on Long Island and the cop
apparently didn't know who he was and Justin Timberlake, which
just like had a dead stare at like a dead
look on his face, like this is going to ruin
the tour. And the cop was like, what what are
you talking about? And he got his license, he was like, oh, oh, okay,
you're Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I understand didn't realize it.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
After he got it, I think, yeah, this is gonna
ruin your tour.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
It's kind of wild.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I feel like we're just walking through life having no
clue who Justin Timberlake is like when you see his name, like,
he's not recognized me.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
But I wouldn't feel like I probably wouldn't recognize I mean,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Cat?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It's Justin Timberlake. I mean, at one point was the
biggest pop star in the entire world.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
I think the only thing, the only reason why I
wouldn't recognize someone is because I wouldn't expect.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
To see someone like I wouldn't expect to show the celebrity.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
So I mean, if you see someone and all of
a sudden, you're like, oh, that person looks really familiar,
and then you're.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Kind of like, oh my god, I just saw Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
I remember, oh, my god, like I mean, I wouldn't
even I saw Pitbull.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
In the airport.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
I saw Kevin Neilan at Chaws and Cedarville when I
first move to.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
He saw Steve Carrell.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, Steve Carrell walking walking out of Roach Brothers in
Marshfield one time. And I've seen that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Jeff Morman die.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, no, no, Jeff Corwin's the animal guy.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, he's from like situation. I think, Oh, is he
really before somewhere I was, I was sorry, not the
not the Australian guy that Jeff, Jeff Corwin, Steve.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
We did. Yeah, that was cool, it was really Yeah,
that was really fun. Picture picture with him, Mike, the
picture with Gerard Mao, Yeah, the disgrace.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Side, but he was still playing for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yes, just gives Mike more reason to not like Mayo. Yeah.
It was the night the Bruins won the Stanley Cup
over the Vancouver's Knocks and we were at Jake and
Joe's and Morewood and Mayo, Sebastian Volmer and Julian Edelman
were all there watching the game. Was this this was
whenever the twenty eleven when the Bruins won.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
The Cup I was like, that would have been great.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Sebastian Volmer was one of the most Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Sebastian Volmer was one of the largest individuals I've ever
seen in my entire life. Giant German man protecting Tom
Brady's blindside. Oh yeah, football players are ridiculous, even punters. Yeah, yeah, right,
Pat McAfee's a giant. Yes, because I forget who the
punter was for. Because I waited on the year the
Patriots and the.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Chargers played back in like two thousand and seven in
the playoffs. Yep, they came into the Cheesecake Factory. Then
I waited on a bunch of Patriots players. It was
like Mike Frable and like.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Lunch other potentially the next coach the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
It was so nerve wracking and I was just just
like just not try not to be like fan going out.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So interesting. They all came to the cheesecake Factory.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
They stay at the hotel, like, yeah, we're okay.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
That's yeah. I guess that's quick access to Fox Bar.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
From that, I don't know why the Patriots players will
be staying. Why would they That's.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
That's the thing though, that the Patriots players usually will
stay at a hotel by Gillette Stadium the night before
the game.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So that there's because they have to enforce a curfew.
They have to make sure now, But at.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
That point Gillette probably wasn't completely built, and they didn't
have the hotel that was.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
They'd only been there for like five years at the Patriot.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Patriot placed by, so that wasn't two when they built.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
No, no, no, I meant I meant no, I'm saying that
probably never even exists, right, That's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Yeah, I meant that's what I meant.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I think the third super built built Patriot plays. Yeah,
probably back when I've.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Always held on site. I mean it needs the same
They probably makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's easier for the players back when they have the
driving range at the Logan Express Station in Braintree. Was
hitting golf balls there with my dad and my sister,
and Derek Lowe is there hitting golf balls.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
He signed something for me. I forget exactly what it was,
but he was. He was kind of a nice guy.
I don't have a baseball with me at a driving range.
Mike's chest, Yeah signed, he signed my boobs.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Can we tattoo this just throw.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Imagine that just go. Someone was like, oh, you want
to like you're sign signing.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, So I feel like there's a couple of other
scenes that we absolutely have to talk about in this movie.
And to go back even before that bar belt, the
weight kill in the this the the cold open in
this movie was absolutely phenomenal, awesome, good stuff. Kyle Gollander
Baby for the Wind had himself a year between this
movie and Strange Darling.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Yeah, I mean he's only in this movie for you,
like you said five minutes, Yes, just in general. Yeah,
he's he's really come on big because he was was
he in in two thousand like two thousand, Oh, he
was in I was looking at up the other day.
He was in the remake of The Nightmare on Elm Street,
And then he was in something.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
He was in one of the the first radio silence
scream movie that came out a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
He was in that for a little yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Then and then because he had done a lot of
indie kind of movies and then all of a sudden,
just bag.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I think he was another another guy that got started
like unlike either Nickelodeon or a Disney channel back in
the day.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Oh that makes sense. Yeah, but yeah, he's had himself
a year.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
So the cold open basically picks up directly after where
the first movie leaves off, and he was the sole
survivor of you know, the incidents of that movie. And
he's going to he's a cop and he's going to
this essentially drug den where he's rug dealers live, absolute
just pieces of shit, and he's trying to pass the
curse on to probably the biggest low lifes that he
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can find, just to get it away from him and
just kill people that he thinks are worthy of dying
for whatever reason. So he goes there basically take somebody hostage,
tries to pass this stuff along, gets into a shootout,
and then upon leaving the house, gets absolutely blasted by
a mac truck in the middle of the street, which
was which was pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, he's a cop. In the first one, he.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Was because there is that guy and he's like, this
wasn't meant for you.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Well yeah, because somebody else, I know, another like an
innocent person walks in to buy drugs and he says
to that person like, oh, this wasn't meant for you.
This was meant for like the drug dealers, like the
asshole drug dealers. Yeah, and then from there the story
kind of kicks into the sky Riley point of view,
and Joe's her life and seems like, you know, pretty stress.
I mean, obviously there's a lot of money to be
had and a lot of fame and a lot all
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the stuff that goes with and also a lot of
stress for somebody, you know, because she's constantly getting stress put.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
On her her mom.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Whop, your mom's very overbearing in this movie, played by
Rosemary de Witt.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
I was gonna say, but she's also like had a
drug problem.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
I was in a serious car accident, like and it
is now this is her return and everyone's like, oh
my god, she's so messed up from all this stuff blah.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
But maybe give it more than a year.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yeah, Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
A year that's not enough time to go to get
over like a massive drug addiction, alcohol addiction, the death
of your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
In a car accident, a severe car were probably.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Had a rehab for like six months.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Let's go back and let's go on to this.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
She Yeah, so I mean you're already your mental health
is like teetering, like never mind, Like then you get
this smile disease by accident, like to throw that on
top of it.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Now you look at a complete cycle path.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Did everyone kind of expected You're playing this role that
everyone anticipated you to play, but it's not actual, it's
not your real mindset.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
It's it's so crazy, Oh for sure, yep.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Absolutely not A cool scene in this movie, by the way,
was when she sees the multiple smile demons that attack
her in her apartment.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's like hum much like Jesus. There's like twenty of
them just in the hallway. That was fucked up.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
That was the scene also in the Hot Game.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Oh really, Yeah, when you turn the lights and all
of a sudden there's like a bunch of people.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Did she ever get like spoken to by police or
arrested in this movie, because that's never happened, right.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's a while. That's a while.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
The cops don't even like talk to her, right, Yeah,
I don't think, which is insane because she witnesses the
first murder, like with the drug dealer, she's at his
house in her phone.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, and then she.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Has like a bunch of like mental breakdowns throughout the movie.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Talked to her, because I remember they I don't think so.
I think they talked to her.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Maybe you know what, they probably like talked to her
agent or something. You speaks on behalf of her, like
a legal thing. I'm sure that she's all lawyered up
and like every manner. So I'm sure that like someone
has to talk for her or through someone else, like
to have a statement by her, because if they, like
you want to come down to the police station to
make a statement, She's obviously going to ask her lawyer.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Her lawyer is going to draft somebody to then.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Tell you because she leaves him at like she looks
very bad, Like she just leaves the guy there.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Doesn't call anyway, She doesn't call the police because she's
there to get drugs and she knows it's gonna make.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Her look right. Yeah, And she's interesting.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
That she does all that and she doesn't even get
brought in for questioning because you would definitely be broad
in for questioning if that happened.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Well, no one would know that she's associated with that guy.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
She was the last person on their cell phone.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Everybody uses the cell phones, and the guy who was
texting her knew that he was caught.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
He was trying to help them.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Remember the guy that was trying to help her because
he was hitten following the curse, so he knew that.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, see that guy is interesting. I wonder where that.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Guy's interesting too, because he's like, oh, you have to.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Die and then this, yeah, and I can bring you back.
That was a very cool thing. Yeah, that was like
the old abandoned pizza or whatever.
Speaker 6 (46:59):
I thought it was so streams that she like immediately
called her best friend that she hadn't talked to in
forever and then just like told her that she just
killed somebody, and then she just left the crime like
she's just like, so, this is what happened, and I
just killed someone, and like I left the crime scene
because like I didn't want to be known to be
like around drugs.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
So now I just she has no friends obviously, I'm like,
oh my god, this girl she's just an absolute trainer.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Like, yeah, those are those her only friend that she
probably had, and she had rued the drugs because she
was she was like she can't call her mom, she
can't call her agent, she can't call her boyfriend, right,
she'd call her friend.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
I do think that was interesting.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
She didn't get arrested for them, Like they didn't bring
in for questioning, No, which is wild, Like you witness
a murder and then you don't call the police, just leave.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, And there's drugs everywhere and she and she throws
up on the floor.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
Her DNA is there because she and then she looks
up and then I'm like, oh, she's gonna and then
they didn't go.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
That was the only part that was like, what's the point?
Why did you ever look it up? If she was
nothing was going to come from it. To never be
in a cop car once in that entire movie is
very impressive on her part. I will say, yeah for sure,
because she does a lot of place speaking of her
estranged her former best friend, Jemma, that girl.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
There's a very cool scene in this that is essentially
kind of a copycat scene from the first movie. In
the first movie, Kevin Bagan's daughter's character, she's the main
character in that first one, is talking to her therapist
and when she's talking to her therapist, she gets a
phone call from her therapist while she's sitting in front
of her therapist and realizes that the person sitting in
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front of her is the smile demon, which was a
really great scene, really good scare, and they do that
again when she is riding in the car with her
friend gets a call from her friend and realizes that
the person that she's been seeing and hanging out with
this entire time, why not actually been her friend, which
was fucked.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
That was a great twist.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
And that she was.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
I surprisingly didn't see that one coming because it had
been because they set it up from the beginning of
the movie.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
You go, well, that would have been exposed at some point.
By that time, she had just been brought into the movie,
and you were like, she's just a regular character in
this movie.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
You never suspected that when she first called her a
contact her that she was simp So they did a
very good job of that because I did not see
that coming at all, and I know a lot of
people after they see him like it was predictable. I
saw that coming, and it's like, you're full of ship.
You didn't see fucking ship. You didn't know ship.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
You're just seeing that because she.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Seemed like you know, the plot to everything that at.
Speaker 6 (49:28):
One point when she was driving, I was like, this
cannot be her, Like I did.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
I definitely question that.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
As it was happening, but like when she got out
of the hospital she's running, that was a little weird.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
The more you look back and she shows up, she's like, okay,
exactly you need me, I know that.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Let's go for a Yeah after killing your mom viciously. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot the suspension of disbelief in
this movie where it's like, you know, yeah, because movie,
this is happening. But sure, there's definitely some some very
impactful scenes.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
I will say, now that you brought that up, there's
a scene in Exema yep, same thing with like the oh.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, which is very cool. Okay, I saw you to
check that one out for sure. Yeah, you're gonna have
that's that almost made.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Another really creepy scene and another really creepy actor in
this movie that pulled off the smile thing very well
was when she's doing the meat and Great thing before
her before her show, and that little girl walks up
to her and it's just smiling at That was really creepy.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
And that other guy too, But that other guy is
he ended up being a demon later, Yeah, figured out.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
The weird creepy guy. It's like, I'm your biggest fan.
I love you, like you know, we're meant to be together.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Whatever that sound nasty When she finally gets like fired.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I mean sell took him away, so he was real.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
He was in her apartment naked, right, I think that's it.
I remember, Okay, now.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
It's it's unless that was all in her head, right,
probably was people.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
People took him away, but because he was.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Being a stalker, that's what he took him away. Well
they took they took him away during during that signing,
but he also then shows up in her.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Apartment, which when he's in her apartment, I feel like,
that's not it.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
This guy. It was this guy who actually was.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I mean, what kind of security you live in like
a like a condo, a beautiful building, right, definitely has.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Like a dormant and he just ends up in your
apartment or your condo.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
It'll think, so, yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Not that guy. That guy's not so that.
Speaker 5 (51:36):
Yeah, that guy's immediately like, hey, there's a there's a
get that guy. Even if you set the grocery start
buying food, Like.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
What did you guys think of the way that they
tried to kill the demon at the end of the movie,
which basically they I love that the the random guy
that she meets that you know, somebody related to him
was killed by this virus and he's like the only
one that believes her, and the other one is trying
to help her with this. They go to a fucking
abandoned pizza hut, which I was awesome, and they stick
her and basically is like, we're gonna put you in
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the freezer so that basically your brain doesn't die when
we stop your heart to get rid of the demon.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
That type of thing.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I thought it was an interesting curious what a doctor
would say about that. Yeah, is that actually a thing?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
I mean, I believe dude, but well, your brain.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
Isn't going to die, like if you if you, if
you like were to die and then they resessed it.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
You like you sure you have some probably brain damage,
but you saw you go brain dead. Yeah that was
how long was he going to keep her out? Like
a minute? I don't know, it was like sixty seconds,
two minutes.
Speaker 6 (52:34):
Just so she'd die and then the thing would go
away and then she came back right right. But I
mean it says a lot because then you're like, this
demon is torturing her so much that she's willing to die, and.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
When she first met the guy, she was like yellow, like,
this doesn't happen like at that. I never understand that
part in the movies when the character like it's so
blatantly obvious that yes, you're haunted by some awful thing
that's just happening.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
They're like, this isn't really your line, and it's like,
is it real? What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (53:01):
Like, yeah, you haven't been convinced yet, Yeah, yeah, this
seems weird.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
And then obviously I thought, what are the things I
continue to like about both these movies? The fact that.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
A they're both rated are so they're not PG thirteen bullshit.
But they have such bleak endings in the in the
first one and in this one as well, because you think, Okay,
maybe this, maybe this girl's gonna overcome this, maybe it's
gonna work. Turns out the experiment in the freezer of
the pizza Hut does not work. And then all of
a sudden, she's on stage in front of a massive
crowd and a giant creature appears and then essentially shoves
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itself into his mouth down her throat, and then she
stabs herself in the eye repeatedly to death in front
of her audience on stage, which is and that's how
the fucking movie ends, which is wild. Yeah, which is
just it's so bleak for mainstream horror really because now
so you're in it, now you have all these people
have been exposed.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, now it's like a pandemic.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Right, so yeah, thousands of So so I'll be curious
if they go with because I mean you would think
I mean the other one that was intentional because if
they told them back then, they were like listen, we
watch you off for multiple movies.
Speaker 5 (54:05):
It probably has a vision. So where how wild is this?
Is this going to turn into like a zombie?
Speaker 2 (54:10):
I hope it does not turn into like a post
apocalyptic type thing like that.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I feel like that would take it, Like, well where
else it's it's going to go? You just infected how
many people?
Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah? And it was that on TV too? Do people
see that on TV? Oh? I'm sure I don't know.
Maybe and then are.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
People and then there's gonna be videos of it afterwards,
like look at this video.
Speaker 6 (54:28):
And the other people the ring ring vibe. Now, yeah,
now you get see it goes.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Well, either way.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
In September of twenty twenty four, Parker Finn confirm plans
to continue the franchise with a third film, stating quote,
we've maybe only scooped a single glass of water out
of the ocean. I think it's really fun to imagine
a lineage of Smile movies where each one becomes more
off the rails than the previous one. And in December
of this year, so just a few short weeks, it
was reported that Smile three was in the works and
is set to start filming in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (54:55):
Is the possibilities now live?
Speaker 5 (54:56):
Think out two in two years? So do they have
another one? You think about the I mean it's gonna
shoot this year.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Maybe it's the end of the year around Christmas, will
be a Christmas thing.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Smile you would go you could go to Smile right trilogy,
or you could do the prequel.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
You have like routes, you have different options.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
Or you could do like an origin story or story
story of like her like friend, like the guy the
guy that witness knows that's been tracking this.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, oh the guy, Yeah, that guy. That guy's been
in a million things. By the way, what's his name?
Speaker 4 (55:32):
And then you have, like, here's this guy's story.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Peter Jacobs, Peter Jacobson, who plays Marris and he is
in Yeah, he's one of those guys you see his
face like, oh I know that.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Because in everything for like seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
So apparently he's the most famous for playing a doctor
in House working alongside House that the House TV show with.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
Love him?
Speaker 2 (55:54):
What the guy? No, I know, I know. We're in
the house. I love the house.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
I love house, this house.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
The guy follow the bouncing ball, the guy, the guy
that plays the character who helps her and brings her
to the pizza hut to put her in the freezer
and and kill the demon.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
He played a doctor on The House TV sw Yes,
his name.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Is Peter Jacobson. Peter Jacobson. Okay, I know him, plays
doctor Chris Tobb on his house.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
This guy. Oh yeah, that guy this guy right here?
Speaker 4 (56:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know him.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah that makes sense considering on the show called House
about doctors and surgeons.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
No you don't say he wasn't like a male prostitute.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
No, no, never mind, he sounds so disappointed. What are
you so disappointed?
Speaker 4 (56:44):
I wanted to see I wanted to see.
Speaker 6 (56:46):
Yeah, he was well they're all they're all okay, they're
all surgeons are all figuring things out, and the people come.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
In and never mind nurse.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Nurse watched the series though, so that's why I was like, nipples.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Can you know me?
Speaker 4 (57:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (57:04):
No, do you have one of those little nipple things
the things that you bake breast your slide over and
you put the milk like from meat Foker's Oh.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm not what do you
why do that?
Speaker 4 (57:20):
Why?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Why are you even asking?
Speaker 4 (57:22):
You have new nephews? You have new nephews?
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Was getting into weird? Yeah, weird?
Speaker 4 (57:29):
Are you suggesting if you watch them? You know you could?
Speaker 2 (57:34):
I'm not. Peter stew of Milk Coffe.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Smile Too, by the way, was one of three horror
movies to gross over one hundred million dollars in the
box office this year, the other two being A Quiet
Place Day One, which was the highest grossing film of
the year for horror, which was one hundred and thirty
eight point nine million dollars, Smile Too had one hundred
and thirty eight point one and Alien Romulus had one
hundred and five point.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
We did Terrifier three end up clocking it.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Terrifier three got fifty three point nine million dollars Number five,
excuse me, number six on the year intern.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
That's pretty good for ultra violence. Yeah, unbelievable. Uh and
then long Legs No s Faratu rounding out the top five. Well.
No Saratu still has like probably a couple more weeks.
Oh yeah, Well the No.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
S Faratu made has made sixty nine million dollars in
like a couple of weeks, which is fucking incredible.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
So yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Then we could run through the year twenty twenty four
and hard, but we dedicated an entire episode to that
just a few a few short days ago, So we're
gonna skip that particular part. Guys, do you have anything
further you want to add or anything that we didn't
touch on smile too that you think is worth noting.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
I think we did a good job, you know. I
think we did do a good job. Yeah, I think
we did.
Speaker 5 (58:47):
I think it's interesting that there was two movies this
year that had major major plots to the movie involved
a pomp. Star Trap was the same, like it was
like took place at like a huge It was like Raven.
It was like her lady's name was Raven. She's like
some huge pop star and they were at her show.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh right, so that's probably a movie that you're gonna
we're gonna end up. It's a Shyamalan movie and that's
what that stops love.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (59:16):
Yeah, I think that's on paramount to No trapped trap
write that it was that in your.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
No, that was my I hated that movie. Okay, that's problem.
I hated this movie. You that.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
Yeah, so I have eight Eyes.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
He there you go, You're got some work to do.
They have, buddy, you'll absolutely hate eight Eyes. I don't
know why you have to there.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
It sounded like I like it.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, I definitely want to watch that one. I bet
I bet on my list you Yeah. Maybe cool. Yeah.
So Smile Too, good fucking sequel, good fucking movie. Very impressed,
very surprised. It's just like you said, my continues to
impress in surprise.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah, hopefully Parker Finn can be three for three when
Smile three does it eventually see the light of day
when that movie does co I'm excited for it. I'll
watch pretty much anything that he does now at this
point until something that does sucks, and then maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
We'll reevaluate but I hope it's good. I hope everything's good.
So maybe we'll.
Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
Learn through some sort of like universe that the father
of the Joker from Batman was actually the origin.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Oh you're gonna let's see a smile a secret Batman movie?
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
I would, yeah, just turned into a Batman movie. That
would be a weird twist and turn.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Would these movies be better or worse if Batman showed
up to fight the Smile Demon at some points? And
which Batman would it be? Keaton, Christian bale U, Ben
Affleck or Val Kilmer or George Clooney killing Val Kilmer?
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Is he like Val Kilmer has got something?
Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
I think he yeah, because I know he was in
Top Gun Maverick, but like like in mad shape, right,
he was in very rough shape.
Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Yeah, let me see what. I don't think Pattinson's beaten
up the Smile Demon. Kington might maybe. I think you
gotta go with Bail, even though you can't go with
a Fleck because he's t.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Yeah. I always like Bail.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
He wasn't even that good. He was like the worst
part of those movies.
Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
He wasn't in it for very much, though he was.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
In it for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Uh so, Val Kilmer has a very aggressive form of
throat cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
That's what it is, poor guy. Yeah, I know it sucks,
all right. Anyway, anything else on Smile Too, guys, think
we covered everything like this is probably the only podcast
you'll ever need to listen to.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
On Smile Too, we did that group of job, that awesome.
We talked about that much stuff we talked about we saw,
we smiled again and it was good. Smile smile, smile, smile,
smile again. Smile too. All right, and that's gonna I
think that's gonna do it for another episode of America's
Hometown Horror. Thanks for checking back in with us as always,
(01:01:59):
looking forward to enough year of podcasting here in twenty
twenty five and talk about all sorts of fun horror
things with you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
My name is Mike.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I've been joined by Kat and Andrew, Lady and gentlemen.
Say good evening and smile to your listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Jeeze like just gouda evening, gooda evening, good night, geesz
evening a good night, sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Tight later and dogs good nights. See yup.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Hey everyone, It's Mike from America's Hometown Horror, and I
want to say thanks again for listening to another episode
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Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
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