Top 10 Horror Movies of the 21st Century

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not everyone's on TikTok, but a lot.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Of yeah, totally insta face.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, tells a throwback talk. And Bill Belichick used to
pretend that he didn't know what social media things were,
and he used to just say snap face and insta
face and he was going on Instagram at boobs hanging.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Out with this stupid girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, well he certainly knows what social media is now
with George Don Hudson handling all of his affairs. But anyway, well,
I actually we are about to dive right into football season,
and the four of us sitting at this table and
on this podcast are about to have our fantasy football
draft and the league that we're all in together, which
there's a lot of ship talking, so that should be
a lot of fun coming up this coming Saturday. But Champ,

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by the way, with that, yeah, Matt is the rating camp.
Matt is the rating Camp. And I just realized, obviously,
good point, a good time has any to say that
I'm joined in studio of course, I'm not hosting alone
by all my co hosts who you've heard all right, Matt,
Andrew and Catherine, Lady, gentlemen, good evening, good evening. How
we all doing. Everybody, how are you doing? We're doing,

(04:09):
We're doing, We're doing good, We're doing good. And uh,
this is episode two back with our new schedule and
our new format.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
With the we're only starting over with episode all over.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
That we're refurbished, refurbished. I like that. There you go, reloaded, retooled, updated, bigger, longer,
and uncut. There you go, just like the South Park
Fun times. Well as I seem, as I alluded to,

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there you go. I hope we'll be able to hear
that before I started, well, as I alluded to just
a second ago, we have a pretty exciting topic here
for tonight. That was Andrew's idea, if I do remember correctly,
where we are going to each run through our top
ten favorite movies of the twenty first century or of
the last twenty five years, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
For the record, I had this idea back in like February.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, So for all the people that are doing it now,
I was, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Kat did make a point to when she was doing
her research for her list, to point out that, oh,
there's a lot of people that have been doing this lately,
this is a good time to do this, and Andrews, like,
fuck all those people. I came up with this idea first. Well,
I mean that's the thing. It's all sorts of film
websites out there that do these sorts of things from
time to time. And some of the lists that are
out there are good. Some are also. They're very basic, yeah,

(05:43):
very strange and weird.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Ours are going to be very strange too.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh I'm sure. I'm sure ours are also going to
be very strange.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
But you guys saw other lists from other sites.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I did. I did. I already have to thank you,
but I did. I did see some lists. I just
kind of wanted to see what other people had and
if I like some of the stuff that I was
going to pick was skewing a little bit to mainstream.
And I think I'm pretty happy with where my list
is now at the end, at the end of the day,
pretty ob Yeah. So I think we'll all have four

(06:13):
pretty different lists. I'm excited to see what we have
and we'll get into like how we looked at it
and rules and what we're gonna do. But it's gonna
be very similar. Bet line online. Yeah we did set
a line.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You hit the under Yeah, we said it five and
a half over number. If you included my honorable mentions,
then it's over. Yeah, all right, so under five and
a half foreign films from.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
It was just a joke.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
He was just spinning and get on it. That's all right.
I think that could have done it. He could have
been like, well, that's why what they are? Well, I
think I think you would already mentioned that your list
is pretty much said. I made my Yes, oh you did, Okay,
all right, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
See.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
See, Andrew's been barking me for like the past however
long and being like, where's your list?

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Where's those cat?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like? I trust matt.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
End So I made my list.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Everybody has a list twice?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, see who was naughty three times? Four times on
that list?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, we'll get to our lists here in just a
short amount of time, and I'm very excited to do that.
That's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm actually been
really looking forward to this episode since we came up
with the idea, And we actually did come up with
the idea right after we finished recording on Sinners, so
we've had a lot of time to kind of sit
on this and think about what we wanted to do,
so it should be fun. But of course, before we
do that, since the last time we did it was

(07:50):
so successful, we have to talk about things in the
horror world that have peaked our interest. So as a reminder,
it's all one thing from each of us that peaked
our interest in the horror world. Can be anything, could
be a boat, could be a car. I gotcha. Well,
would anybody like to lead off? I'll go first. Matthew
go ahead.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
And this is thanks to you because he said it
to me last night. Chain Reaction, the new documentary coming
up with the social impact of the Texas Chance. I'm Ascer,
So I'm declaring the start of Spooky Season to be
August eighteenth. Every year, August eighteenth is the day the
original Texas Chance of Mascer takes place in the film.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Every year, I watched this.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
That's what I do is I watch The Texas Chance
and Mascer I post the whole monologue at the beginning,
and this, that and the other thing. So I think
that should be the official start of Spooky Season through
October thirty. First, you don't have to froten me with
a good time. No, but the trailer you sent me
that looks great. The four K second site copy that

(08:50):
I have has a great documentary on it as well,
looks pretty similar to that. It's a lot of people
talking about it, this, that and the other thing, and
it's very new. It's from I think twenty twenty three.
I'm looking forward to. So I'm a huge nerd for
like the big deep dives into like I love those like.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
In Search of Darkness movies.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yeah, shit like that where you kind of break down
like a decade of the eighties or like now they're
doing the nineties and a two part thing. But I'm
looking forward to seeing them really get into how because
there's there's three movies I wish I could have gone
back in time and saw in theaters and Texas Dance
and Masters definitely one of them. Oh yeah, yeah, it's
just the movie is insane and I will die in

(09:33):
the hill of saying that it is.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
The greatest horror film ever made.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, certainly can be debated.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
In the conversation for sure. And I also rewatched it recently,
Kat and I did, and it's just like I was
telling Matt, it just it makes me feel icky every
single time I watch it. It's so disgusting and it's
so disturbing and it's so messed up, and like, I know,
it gets thrown in the category of slasher all the time,

(09:59):
but I I don't even think I agree with that. No,
it's like in a category of its own. Yeah, it's yeah,
for sure. But I figured that documentary would be right
up your alley. Yes, thank you, That's why I said
it to you. And it looks really cool. I'm also
a big fan of these deep dives into movies and
you know, a specific time period in the horror world.
So that'll be interesting one. And it's got some pretty

(10:20):
cool people, it looks like talking about it, Stephen King's
and the trailer Patton oswaltk is in it talking about it.
The guy who does a birthday edition. I was a
really okay, happy birthday to k. But yeah, chain Reaction,
that look pretty pretty awesome.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Patton Oswald has a stand up bit about the Texas
change to Master Okay, where he talks about movies having
stupid names and he's like, give me a movie that
is straightforward, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I know what I'm
walking into, I know I'm getting out of it. Yeah,
that's a good bit nice.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
So I know he's like that TikTok I sent you
where it ends with Born to run By.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, swinging the chainsaw right. I know Patton Oswalt's a
big horror fan too. He's written for I love people
that love horror, so he's one of them. So Patton
Oswalt looks like he's involved in Chain Reaction A nice pick. Well,
I can say, folks, my interest is peaked in Chain
Reaction the text Chainsaw mascre documentary. All right, I guess

(11:14):
I'll go next, then Andrew, then kat So. I could
talk about weapons, which Andrew and I saw in Open Night.
I'm not going to could talk about Halloween harr Knight's
kicking off shortly, which is having Terrifier five Knights, and
Freddy's a falloout based Hans's not going to talk about that.
I'm not going to talk about how awesome Alien Earth is,
Alien Earth, Alien Earth, alien Welcome to Earth.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
See.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
I like how Mike this is his honorable mentions, and
I could and he goes, I'm not going to talk
about this.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I could talk about the new masterpiece of a Deaf
Tones outum that came out on Friday. But I'm not
going to talk about private music either. I am, however,
going to talk about a little article I saw in
Bloody Disgusting and other sources, so it is valid. It
did peak my interest, and that is that Nicholas Cage
is reportedly in talks to star in the new season
of True Detect. Wow.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
That would be awesome, right, that would be really awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So obviously Nicholas Cage, and I'm looking at this article
here from Blood Disgusting, he has you know, been on
a little bit of a hot streak and horror because
he was in Mandy, I was in Renfield, he was
in obviously Long Legs. That was his big thing last
year was Long Legs. But you gave up on Mandy.

(12:26):
I think, yeah, Mandy. It definitely is a slow bird.
It was a lot so but report so, Reportedly, Nicholas
Cage is quote nearing a deal to star in the
upcoming True Detective season five, which is again being helmed
by Night Country creator is A. Lopez. Uh, let's see.
True Detective obviously is at McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, Colin Farrell,

(12:47):
Rachel McAdams, Herschel, Ali, Jody Foster, Vince Vaughn, Kelly Riley,
and many many other people. And apparently this new season
is going to take place Stephen Dorf. Can I forget
about Dwarf? This new season is going to be set
in New York, in Jamaica Bay, New York, which is
a long way from Alaska from last season, but the
two stories are going to be tied together. So I

(13:10):
ask you, guys, Nicholas Cage and True Detective in or
Out and also in I think that would be a
really cool casting choice in hook to the last season.
I'm not either. I'll give it a shame same director.
It's a Lopez, so it's terrible, it's awful. I am.

(13:32):
I am willing to give that a chance. If Nicholas
Cage is going to be the main character, he's one
of those actors for me that is awesome. Or he's
way too much like one of the movies that I
watched in preparation for this list to see if it
was going to make my list or not. It didn't,
and I have a feeling it's not going to make
any of either. Any of yours would be the Richard
Stanley film Color Out of Space. Have you guys seen that.

(13:53):
So it's a Lovecraft movie, body horror movie, really good movie.
But he's actually the worst part in it. His performance
is is so over the top and weird, and it's
just an interesting choice by him. So he can either
be too much or just enough. As you saw in
like Long Legs. He was great in that, so I'll
be interested to see what he does. But he was
also in like a Werner Herzog film called Bad Lieutenant.

(14:13):
I think it was a remake where he plays a
crooked cop and he's actually fucking awesome the original.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
The over under for the new season of how many
forced cream pies there are?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
How many were there in the last season? Three? Three? Yeah,
least maybe I would say if it's if we're continuing
the same, he's still going to be more than three.
It's going to be more than three. Yeah. Anyway, Nick
Cage apparently headed a true detective that has peaked my interest, guys,
you guys peaked or what I'm super peaked. I'm peaked, Andrew,

(14:44):
what's peaked your interest?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
My friends?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
So I'm not going to talk about thirty one Atlas,
which is that interstellar object that's passing through on its
own trajectory.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It's not part of like a Y or or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So that's that it's the asteroid that's passing. It's coming.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
It's gonna be passing Mars soon, but it's scientists have
now realized that it's not reflecting light which most asteroids.
Is that the thing I thought was a UFO. This
this is like in like past Mars. That's I don't
know which we're talking there was a UFO.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Really, people are saying they're supposed to be some UFO
coming in November. Yes, I've also heard these conspiracy theories.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Oh maybe no, But so this one, it's basically like
it's a comet supposedly, but it's a minting its own light,
which they don't understand how it's a minting its own
like because they don't do that. So it could be radioactive,
it could be space shiny, could be something well, ship,
space ship. So I'm not gonna talk about that. I'm
just gonna talk about someone We went and saw weapons.
There was a trailer for keepers Met or the new
Osgood Perkins movie, and it's a Neon movie, and the

(15:44):
trailer was very just bizarre and the kind of peaked
my hand no Keepers. Oh, okay, yeah, the new os
Good Perkins. I think that comes out in October.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Member, so he's got two movies, which I didn't even
know about that until the until we saw weapons.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah you heard ripping?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, just coming out fast. I think he's it could
be weird.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
He's a name that'll probably come up a little bit
later in this episode. I would think mister Oz Perkins. Yeah.
So actually, uh, that was the first time I had
seen that trailer as well, and then I've actually been
actively avoiding the trailer for Shelby Oaks because I've heard
good things, uh like, doesn't really give you much, Okay, yeah,
because I know it's an Eon. They don't, they don't.
That movie is supposed to be pretty cool, and I

(16:26):
know it's directed by this guy, Chris Stuckman, who was
a He started off as a YouTuber and this is
his first movie. So it'll be interested to see how
that one does. And what's it called again, his new one, Keepers,
Keepers Keepers. It's a really weird.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Trailer.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
It didn't really let you know what was going on, Like,
it gave you a lot, but at the same point,
it didn't really give you anything, which is net it's
a Neon movie.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Again, So yeah, Neon does a really good job at
their marketing. Did a great job last year with Cuckoo
and long Legs and all that. So cool. Well, my
interest is peaked in the new Oz Perkins movie. Hopefully
yours is too. Everyone out there, all right, kat, what's
piqued your interest?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So between September seventhe eighth is going to be the
blood moon. It's gonna be a total lunar.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Clip the astrology.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Maybe yeah, I know, it sounds like I can piggyback
off of you, like kind of because you're in space.
I'm in space too, so I mean space space, like
like space and.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Space and go to brother space brothers like.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
That.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I didn't talk. That didn't all right?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well, this just so yeah, No, there's gonna be It
doesn't say where it's gonna be visible, but like I
was excited that there's like a really cool clips coming.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So you can't even see it in like where we are.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Probably it doesn't say right now, but I mean.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
It's September, it's like two weeks away. Thanks for giving
us no information on this cool eclipse.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Let letter, let letter cook. My interest was peaked and
now it's not.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Wow, he's so angry so fast.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I mean, Andrew used to be able to spar with
you once a week on a podcast, and now all
this pent up rate is coming out. Don't call me
shirt brother ever again. I'm not your shirt brother. I
was actually surprised you did talk about friendship from.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well because I had seen it. So, yeah, that was
not really a horror movie. It toes the line a
little bit, but it's a little.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It's weird, it's just crazy award. Yeah, but it's good.
That's like the cable Guy. Yeah, very much, so, very
much so. So the Blood the Blood, Yes, the blood
moon is coming.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's the September seventh or eighth. Do you really September
seventh through the eighth? So I think it's the night
of the seventh, Like I don't know. Well, yes, I know, right,
and it's gonna be late. I mean yeah, so it's
not really cool.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
There will be do you happen to know like how
frequent we get those? Like, how like how rare they are?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
No, because there's like a few supermoons a year, but
they're not very frequent, and different ones happen at different times.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Okay, So I can't really yours. All yours are all
on your phone.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm looking up something else.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
They're typically between two and four total lunar clips are
blood moons per year, per year, so they're they're pretty,
they're not very.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
They're not like super uniu cool.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
They're cool to look at, but they're like at a
different location.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
So yeah, that's that makes That's what I was asking.
You know where it is, but where.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's just it's visible in the northeast.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Okay, no, northeast. We are in the northeast, so it's
visible to us. Yes, it doesn't need to be specific.
It's northeast is specific when you're talking about the entire right.
So yes, now see now my interest is pea because
you said in the northeast. Yeah, I wouldn't like northeast

(19:56):
like it was in the northeast blood moon spooky.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes, So when the when the moon goes over the Sun,
it will actually cast a red shadow based on.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
Where it is sweet very macay.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Sure will look we'll look red.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right in front of it.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
We could do some very interesting content with the blood book.
By the way, shan O's TikTok handle which I was
looking up. That's what I was looking at Kat is
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follow and follow his journey of writing his horror novel,

(20:36):
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He's helped us out so many times at this podcast.
The official fifth member of this podcast, mister Sean J. Laughlin.
All right, folks, I think and let's kat you do
you have a question a cat question fast this week?

Speaker 8 (20:55):
I forgot about that already?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Fair enough? Episode two?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
How about how about how does everyone doing?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Everyone's doing good?

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Ayah, all right, that's the question.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well we're for you know what. That's actually fine because
I think we're gonna have a lot to talk about
in this next next segment. I think it's probably gonna
be a good amount of time. So uh, why don't
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Speaker 1 (22:28):
And we're bad. All right. This is gonna be a
lot of fun. I'm really excited for this. This is
gonna be really, I think, an interesting discussion, and I
think it's going to be so interesting for not only
we're all doing our own lists and I love doing lists,
but in going back and doing my research for when
I was picking my movies. Obviously we're talking about a

(22:51):
quarter century here of horror films. There's a lot to
pick through, and there's gonna be probably a lot of
movies that are left off our lists that people are
gonna be like, well, what the fuck? And I think
you have to remember, just like we do at the
end of every year with our top ten movies of
the year, this is these are our favorites, right, It's
not necessarily we're not doing a best of list because
everybody you can google those online and like you know,

(23:11):
Kat mentioned this, a bunch of them out there where.
Film websites that don't necessarily specialize in horror will do
their lists, and that you can get all kinds of
that stuff there too, So we might have a little
bit more of a unique take on this. And I
really think a lot of people talk about the seventies
and the eighties being the golden age of horror, and

(23:31):
those were certainly defining years for the genre. But I
don't think you can deny the two thousands, specifically the
twenty tens and the twenty twenties I have ushered in
a new golden age, I guess if you will. Yeah,
so this is definitely I think there's a number of
reasons that that's the case. But like the seventies, right,
I think there's a lot of social and cultural reasons

(23:54):
for that in present day that a lot of these
movies have become so popular, Like the seventies true inspiration
from the Vietnam War. There's a lot of civil unrest
around that. The eighties had the Cold War and there
were rising crime rates across the country. Emerging technology was
a big theme in a lot of movies. But horror
usually reflects cultural fears and right now, things like global warming, COVID,

(24:14):
the emergence of AI, racial tensions, the political landscape. I'll
just leave it at that, all things that have influenced
a lot of the horror movies that have come out
in the last twenty five years, and a lot of
the ones that were probably going to talk about. And
I think, I mean, why do you guys think horror
has become so popular again over the last twenty five years,
Because I have a couple of reasons that I think

(24:36):
I want to venture a guess or what you think why?

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Well, because there's a lot more social turmoil nowadays. I
think people see things more from what they are. We're
not as not everyone's walking around with blinders on anymore.
Like we don't just go based off of what you
see on CNN or Fox twenty five or any of that. Like,
there's plenty of avenues to see what's going on in
the world. There is a lot more avenues for horror

(25:01):
to choose without it looking like some crazy conspiracy style movie.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
If you know what that that makes any sense, Sure, sure.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
I'm gonna I'll piggyback off that because I think now
you're getting exposed to social.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Media, you're seeing everything.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
You're seeing videos of things going on in another parts
of the world that you didn't see before. You're seeing
hyper violence happen in real time in real life, and
I think horror is kind of being able to use that.
Like you're seeing movies. You look at Terrifier three, you're
seeing mass casualty violence acts happening in movies where they

(25:38):
do happen in real life. And it's kind of the
same way that you'd look at the way Wes Craven
used the violence on the news of the Vietnam War
to kind of make a statement with Last House and
the Left and just being like, you want to show
violence on TV, I'll show you violence on TV.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
You want to see something fucked up, I'll show you
something fucked up.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
As a kind of way, and I think that's kind
of what it's at now, is like everything's just so
crazy and it's just like we got to just go
above and beyond and top everything all the time.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, Well, I think people have been saying this for
a while. Horror's kind of always been political and about things,
and I feel like people have finally started to realize that,
especially you know, especially the movies of the seventy of
the eighties, like I was talking about, now that's becoming
I think more people are becoming aware of that sort
of thing, for sure, because I think the social media
aspect of it is a huge part of it. But

(26:36):
I was also going to say, in addition to that
type of stuff, I think the emergence of studios like
a twenty four Neon, Blumhouse, lions Gate, Atomic Monster that
are churning out all sorts of horror films in lots
of different styles. That's been a huge impact. I think.
Obviously in the last twenty five years, a huge thing
has been streaming services or a lot a lot of

(26:59):
older movies that weren't getting necessarily the the credit and
the accolades that they should have gotten at the time
that they were released are kind of finding a new
home on streaming services. Movies, movies are horror. Movies are
taking themselves so much more seriously now too.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
You're you're getting kind of back into that vibe with
the seventies where they're not just like because the eighties
gets a little crazy, but the seventies were dramas about
something horrific, and that's an important thing of making sure
that horror is being still a good movie while being.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
A horror movie. Like you look at the exorcisty, look.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
At the Omen you know what I mean, Like you
have these movies that are insane, but they're also it's there.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
They have Oscar.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Winning actors in them, they have top tier directing, writing,
cinematography and everything, and I think we're kind of shifting back.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Towards that, which is great.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
So that I think that's another part to like go
off with the production studios that you mentioned too, Like
they're taking it seriously, they want to make good Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
That and the ability to see foreign horror films so
much easier now than you ever used to be.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh yeah, Like it's just yeah, it's there, and that's
a huge thank you to like Netflix to be hooing,
Amazon Prime, Shutter especially Shutter has brought a lot of
new films, a lot of older films, you know, to
streaming that weren't previously available, which is great. And I
think obviously, you know, different types of horror for different folks.
There have been a ton of popular horror franchise movies

(28:33):
that have come out in the last twenty five years
or continued to come out in the last twenty five years.
Whether it's like Conjuring Movies It Saw Final Destination, the
Hannibal movies, Terrifier, Scream, Paranormal Activity, Halloween, Insidious, the Purge
all made a ton of money. In fact, from what
I did find, of the top fifty grossing horror movies

(28:56):
of all time, forty of them have been released in
the year two thousand and one or after. So horror
is that adjustment. They're all adjusted with inflation. It's like
top ten all time h in the top ten one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven of the ten all came out in the two thousands.

(29:18):
It I Am Legend, e gross World war Z, EO
Gross It Chapter two, Beatle Juice, Beetlejuice, The excuse me
signs in Prometheus, all in the top ten. All came
out in the two thousands, So horror has become as
big as superhero movies right now. Horror does really wark
at the box office. I mean, look at what Weapons

(29:39):
has been able to do the first couple of weeks
that it's been open. A lot of people going to
see that. That's an original horror story. And while it
necessarily wasn't my favorite thing that's come out this year,
I got to give Zach Craiger all the credit in
the world for coming up with an original, interesting story
that's bring people to the theaters. Same thing with Sinners
this year. Sinners was another huge one original story, made
a ton of money at the box office.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
So Rich I was gonna say, kind of, it's a
vampire movie.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's not that original, that's true, all right, So anyone
else have anything they want to add about horror of
the last twenty five years before we jump into our lists.
All right, let's do it. Andrew, why don't we kick
off with you and we'll just go around the table
here and actually we're doing them. We're doing we'll do
with the Broadley rule like we usually do. So basically,
if if there's a movie that's on other people's lists,

(30:25):
we'll save up the conversation. Yeap. So if it's higher
on your list, if Andrew's number ten is your number one,
we would just raise your hand and then we have
we have the conversation about that movie as a group
based on whoever has it highest on the list. Okay, okay,
all right? Are we ready? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:45):
First?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Okay, you go first?

Speaker 4 (30:46):
No, I don't want to pick first.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, well, I mean I can't pick.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I can pick.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
No, sounds like you want to go first. Sounds like
you want to go first. Yeah. Do you want to
go first? Or do you want to go second? Okay?

Speaker 8 (30:57):
We children, I I get I'm a follower.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh you want to go second? Now all right, Andrew,
you're us.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
So I figure in the last five years you've got
to have at least but you don't have to have
one at least like horror comedy. So there's play of
good horror comedies. But I picked twenty ten's Tucker and
Dale Versus Evil by Eli Craig. We actually just watched
his other movie that just came out, Clown in a Cornfield,
which is just surprised with this.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I like, yeah, it was between this and Sean of
the Dead.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I love Sean of the Dead and that it's a
fantastic movie, but this movie is just so much funnier.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I find just think so I think it's funnier.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, it's just so stupid, just how stupid the other
characters are, like all the teenage like college kids are
in it. Like I just love the interactions. And also
Ellen what's his name, Titik he said everything, he said everything.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
He's phenomenal in this. Like one of the favorite scenes
in that movie is when he's.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Trying to chop the tree with the chainsaw and he
cuts into like a giant bees nest and all the
bees rush out, and he starts running around crazily with
that's the trauma for you, yeah, to.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
The beast nests. And so he's running through the woods
with his lawnmower, being chased like a lunatic in one
of these they all think he's trying to kill him,
and one of the kids is like staring at him
and just runs into a tree and gets impaled by
the branch, and it's just like what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Like idiots, but it's like a good I don't know,
it's like one of my favorite funny horror movies from.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
The last twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
So okay, fun fact never seen. Tucker and Dale Versus
Evil pretty good. Yeah, I have checked that one out.
I'm surprised you haven't seen that. I thought you said
you'd say no, no, I haven't seen it. So that
was one of the ones that I wanted to watch
in preparation for this. I don't know if it would
have made my top ten, but yeah, it's it's I mean,
it's it's definitely. I just wanted to pick one comedy
horror because, like, I mean, they got scary movie too,
but those movies are funny, but they're not like and

(32:41):
there's a new scary movie coming out, Scary Movie six. Yes, yeah,
it was so awesome. I can't wait. Yeah, excited for
that one.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
All of the scary movies.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Tucker and Dale Versus Evil for number ten, and Andrew Catherine,
You're number ten.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Mineus Hills Have Eyes Circle to two thousand and six.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Not the.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
One with Jessica Biale is high.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, that's that's sex Chainsaw'm asking with Jessica Bill.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Wait which one?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Wait you just said the Hills have Eyes.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh no, yeah, no, it.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
Hills have Eyes.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, the Hills have Eyes remake.

Speaker 8 (33:09):
Yeah, the remake.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Oh that's higher for you.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, so it's on another list, Okay, Number nine for
kat the Hills have Eyes remake, So that'll come up
a little bit later. Number ten, sorry, number ten, excuse me?
My number ten?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Wow, wow, I was gonna be on my list. But
I will say I did make one rule. I wasn't
gonna do any remakes on my list. I was being
very so it's just because it was hard enough to
pick ten movies.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
For me, I was like, I'm gonna go rich.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I I also so I there are a couple of
movies that I left off my list that like, were
my number one movies of years that we did our
top ten list that I was like, I've talked a
lot about those movies. I kind of wanted to do
a different type of list. So I'm happy with mine.
But again, each list is our own, right, all right,
Hills have Eyes at ten. That'll come up a little
bit later. Matthew, you're number ten, two thousand and two,

(33:55):
Danny Boyle's twenty eight days later.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yep, okay, buddy, No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I was, but left it off my list.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
This movie is arguably the best zombie esque genre film
of all time. It is so unrelenting and it is
so fucking scary. There's scenes in this movie that are
have stuck with me. I saw this movie as like
a little kid, and it's just stuck with me. The

(34:27):
opening scene is a lot. The church scene with the
priests chasing after him is a lot. The scene where
the crow drops the blood into what's the actor's name,
Brendan Gleeson's eye.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
No, you're thinking of thirty days a night.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
That seems a lot.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
It's just it's crazy. It's a whole different breed. The
way it looks is super gritty. The zombies or the
rage infested are infected, are so so fast and they're
just so intense, and it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
There.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
There aren't many movies like it. Gone to the Dead
remake kind of piggybacked off of it a little bit,
but this was just bleak as hell. Dude, Like, this
movie was fucking rough. I've yet to see twenty eight
years later. I'm waiting until it's available to not rent
for twenty dollars. But the yeah, no, this I couldn't

(35:27):
leave this off my list.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
This movie always scared shit out of me when I
was younger. Yeah, it really paid me to leave that
one not on my list. But I feel we did
a whole episode on it way back in the day.
I feel like we've talked about that movie quite a bit,
and I do love it and I did actually rewatch
it recently, right around years.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Watch it came out and because it hadn't been available
for streaming it so and I don't know it either.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, and I didn't known it, so it's like I
haven't seen something forever.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yet, And like I feel like that movie kind of
reinvigorated interest in the zombie genre. Yeah, for better or worse,
it's it's definitely the best. But I I mean in
their like early role for Killian Murphy, he's awesome, and
it's just a it's a fantastic movie. And Killian Murphy's character,
Jim gouging the guy's eyeballs out at the end of

(36:14):
the movie is just one of the all times slept
on horror kills. It is so savage and gross and awful.
It's just like incredible. That movie's awesome. I loved twenty
eight days later. A nice choice at number ten, Matthews.
I'm surprised nobody else had it, like that should be
a number one, but it's got There's some tough decisions
to be made here. So all right, my number ten

(36:35):
is twenty fifteen's The Black Coat's Daughter, directed by Osgoode Perkins.
Anyone else, no, Andrew, No, no good movie though. Okay,
So this was the one that I was kind of
like back and forth on if I wanted to.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
I'm a tirn in case.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
All of us are talking about every single one of
our movies to make sure that you like can fit
it all in.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
We'll fit it in.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Just fine work if I don't interrupt people, I'm just asking.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
It was a question.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
You didn't really go over the what are the rules?
Were good? We're good on time. We're good on time.
So yeah, Black Coat's Daughter. If you haven't seen this
so obviously. Oscar Perkins has kind of made a name
for himself in the last couple of years with Long Legs.
With the new movie that he has coming out this
year that Andrew mentioned in Peaking Our Interest, he just
had the Monkey that came out earlier this year. He
also did Gretel and Hansel. This was the first movie

(37:23):
that he filmed. It wasn't his first movie that got released,
but there is. It's an awesome story that kind of
tells is told from three different viewpoints, but it has
a lot of the similar themes of his other movies.
So if you were a fan of Long Legs and
you haven't seen The Black Coat's Daughter, I would highly
recommend going back and checking this one out. Very satanic, twisty,

(37:44):
cool story with some really cool possession satanic elements in
it that are really interesting, and you will definitely if
you're an eagle eyed fan and you really like Long Legs,
you'll see some similarities between the two films. Like I am,
I am one hundred percent convinced that all of his
movies take place like in the same reality and all
the stories take place in the same universe and all

(38:05):
the characters exist alongside each other. Because this movie, this movie,
really it feels like it was almost like a precursor
of Long Legs. And I feel like we did an
episode on this movie back in the day, and I
remember Andrew and I talking about I don't know if
you were on at that point, Matt, I don't know
if you were on that episode either, Cat, I don't
know why, but.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Wow, maybe well you don't know if you were.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I know I was there. I'm saying I don't think
you were on the episode for whatever reason. Yea, but
I remember both of us. Is kind of being blown away,
like at how under the radar this movie is, and
it is awesome. So I love this movie and I
was happy to put it at number ten on my list.
So The Black Coat's Daughter from Oz Perkins. Check that
one out if you definitely to watch it. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,

(38:46):
number ten out of the way. We're moving here, folks.
Andrew your number.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Nine, Paul down.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
My number nine is the twenty sixteen I forget the name,
I didn't write tell the name of director, but ever.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Sixteen French film by her Raw.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It's nice.

Speaker 9 (39:05):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
The podcast right an episode on that.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Disgusting it.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
It's so gross and it's just it's one of the
most disgusting movies you can possibly watch. And it's it's
very good body Heart and it's kind of slow burn,
but it's so well done, so well acted, so well written,
like all the sets that it's just a perfectly done
gross cannibal movie. Like, it's probably one of my favorite

(39:32):
cannibal movies because there's a lot of those, right, Like
I'm trying to think, what else would you consider a
cannibal movie.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Sounds Yeah, that's definitely.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
That's like a yeah, that cannibal holocaust. That's the other
last thing.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, there's not money, there's a lot, there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
We just don't talk.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Zombies.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
No, I mean there's zombies. Zombies by nature are but
then people yeah, yeah, rock we.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Don't have to talk.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
But we've talked about before in this podcast. I don't okay,
it's got a time on.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Everybody's are very like a little I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
It's just really well done, like the way it's passed down.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
It's it's an interesting like take on Like it's a
social commentary again because it's a harmony.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Whatever social commentary is you figured out, I'm not telling you.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
I'm going to tell people you a little sassin. But
like that's the thing I love about horror movies and
it's social commentary. You can think whatever you want, So
just think what you want. I'm not going to give
my opinion on it.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Cares a lot of people think it's about like going
through puberty, like an allegory for that that type of thing.
Directory I thought it was about eating people's legs. That's
also also that the director is Julia Ducarne, French film director.
She also directed a movie called Titan which.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Came out that was actually very haven't seen are yes?
I heard it was opening scene having sex.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
With the.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yep French films. I will always get you, all right,
it's so raw at number nine for Andrew not to
be confused with raw. Woooo.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Catherine Sinners, Sinners is my number nine.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
So we just talked about it.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Oh sorry, I didn't think that counted, but it does count,
it does. You are doing this year?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, you are doing this year.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
And I really liked that movie, and I thought, I
mean mostly because it expands like over the decades.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I like the whole I mean, it was a great movie.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I thought it was.

Speaker 8 (41:32):
I thought it was good.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Worthy to be noted in a draft for sure. I
think that it will be okay, it will be remembered
as a different type of movie.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
That's it's just unique. When unique movies come out nowadays,
it's they stand out and like it really kind of
I don't know, people hyped it up, and then it's
a weird thing because people hyped it up, and then.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
You're convincing us of yourself.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
I don't know. I'm having an interior conversation out loud
right now.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I'm like, maybe people were hyping it up and then
they were saying, I don't know, don't look like I
don't know. There was a lot of things, but I
actually I liked it. I liked it, so it's my
number nine sold. We don't really talk about because we
just talked about it.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
So it's a good movie.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
But yeah, it was a good movie.

Speaker 8 (42:19):
I liked all I like mostly the music.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, I figured the music, and I did not know
that was one guy. I mean still still still still
blow your way. Well like wow, yeah, well you're not
alone see the nutty professor.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
No, I know, God, but he was great. He's great
in it as both guys.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
He was great. Well nights then move along eight hour
like Roberts and the movie that's so he plays two roles.
Roberts plays two juicy and actors love to real well
they're getting do they get paid twice?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
You should be paid double?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I mean that you must.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
That's good otherwise, why are you doing like how many
how many? How much money you think Michael Keith made
in Duplicity or what multiplicity? There's like thirty seven people
in them.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's actually good. That's a very good question.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
You read it.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Well. She wasn't a Twitter It was just Jamie Lee
Curtis was was her in the original One Parent tp
Oh right, yeah that one. My sister used to love
that movie. Yeah, but a lot of people, a lot
of people are already saying Sinners is worthy of being considered.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I can see that.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I can see it.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I see it yeap for a number of reasons, reasons.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Irish vampire danced for some strange reason, it's like really
like vampire person. But I like the way they almost
make fun.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Of vampires, Like as the movie goes like yeah, will
you let me in?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Please? Yeah, that was like why don't you let me in?
It's like it's like no, no, no, these guys. I
think we touched on that in the episode, but like
that was That's definitely refreshing about the movie that like
people don't fall for like the stupid cliches. They're a
little bit smarter than that. Yeah, that was cool for sure.
It's okay Sinners at number nine for contran Matthew ready

(44:17):
for number nine.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yep, this one's a fucking heavy one. Twenty twenty two
Christian Taftrope speaking to Evil.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
That was so close to being on my lesson this movie.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
This movie fucked me up so bad the first time
I saw it. The last fifteen minutes of this movie
are absolutely unforgivable.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, what a what a ass beater.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
It's just one of the meanest and cruelest cinematic experiences
I've ever watched in my life.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I watched it.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
The first time I watch it, I just could not.
I think three weeks went by and I finally like,
let it go. It just it really fucked me up. Dude,
that poor little girl getting her tongue cut out. It
was just the most horrible thing I've ever arguably one
of the worst things I've ever seen in a movie
of all ever.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Yeah, that's glad you brought it up. It's making me
feel it's it's not good. Now my days ruined. Now
I have to go watch That's sweet. That's how you
know that movie. All you have to do is bring
it up and you bumm me the fuck out I'm like, what,
what an absolutely devastating movie that was? And just for

(45:28):
me to have a movie come out like that when
everything was kind of like you're getting.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Over that, like kind of like Blumhouse Hump and everything,
and you get that and you're like, okay, like we're
getting back to movies that are a little more fucking
rough around the edges. They're a little harsher, and we've
kind of gotten even further into that since then.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
And it's just for me.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
I like, if I want to if I'm watching a
horror movie, I don't. I don't need a happy ending,
doesn't I prefer not to.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, it's not supposed to be that.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
And that movie made me feel a lot of things
And that was just dreadful fucking experience. And it was
of the last twenty five years, one of the most
gripping and intense experiences I've had watching a homework film.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah I had. I couldn't not put it on my list.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, that's one of those movies you have to really
think about who you recommend that movie.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
I'm I'm like reluctant to like give it a rewatch,
Like we I watched it for the second time when
we did the episode on it, and I haven't.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, I watched it again after that.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
What has anyone seen that.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I make I'm gonna desire cause I haven't.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
I mean that would be like a nice, like dull
down version, I guess, yeah, yeah, But if I'm going
to watch that movie, I need that ending because it's long.
It's a long, slow, drawn out movie, and that just yeah,
the ending, And I think that might be the greatest
fifteen minutes well like cinematography.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Just like some of the most hardcore fifteen minutes. Yeah, yeah,
mostful fifteen minutes watching. And I'll tell you, like a
lot of everyone's gonna remember the ending of that movie,
and deservedly so. Right, But I would say watching it
through the lens of being a parent, like a relatively
new parent, and that just pit of dread in the
like in the not in your stud watching it, just

(47:11):
knowing that something is going to happen because the parents
are just too passive and they just essentially allowed the
entire situation to happen. It's so horrifying, and it's like
you can't help but think about yourself away. They almost
got away, and it's just like it's just it's yeah,
it's it is a brutal fucking movie.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
It's also the way that the movie begins, like the
beginning of this movie really because it's such a they's
just a family on holiday. You run into another family
that has a kid. You think that like everything's and
it turns out to just be.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's like the most sinister thing it a lot.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Also the reason I like another movie is because the
beginning starts off the same as Infinity Pool, very similar beginning.
He's just on vacation, just enjoying himself and you think, well,
this is nice, I'm meeting some want to get late,
and then it turns into some absolute complete chaos, same chaos,
like you start off on one of people people's most
happy times is on vacation.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
People are just praying on your most like horrific fucking
it's just.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
An awful, what an awful this vacation and so many
good memories.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
You just find out like what.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
They've been doing and that they're like god damn dude,
Like it's just it's just horrible, horrible fucking story.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, oh boy, yeah, speak no to mention.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Just the absolute brutal that's not the most on my list,
by the way, I wouldn't think.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
So there's surprise, Matty, that's your first film number one.
There we got one, baby, I wonder one. Yeah, all right,
curious he was more so Speak No Evil at number
nine from Matthew love It. I can't believe I didn't
make my list either.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
I know it was closer.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
I didn't make it mine yet I didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Expect it to make their listening close to me close
for me, all right? So that brings it back to
me for my number nine. And my number nine is
my number nine is here? My number nine is from
the year twenty twenty one. It's directed by James One.

(49:08):
It's a movie called Malignant Nice all right, and that
is higher on someone's list. It we'll shelve that conversation
for a little bit. Malignant at number nine for me,
which means that we are to Andrew back to his
numero eight. And what's your number eight do?

Speaker 5 (49:28):
My number eight is the twenty twenty three Damian's Damien
when Evil lurks.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh it's another one, yep, all right, so we'll talk
about that a little bit later too. Foreign films on
my list, now there I go. Yeah, that's last thing
I was competing for three number eight Damien Rugnas when
evil lurks, Well that's a conversation. What what do you? Okay?

(49:58):
All right? So that brings us to Cat for her
number eight movie film, Catherine, what's your number eight?

Speaker 4 (50:05):
The Babba Duke?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Okay, anyone else? Okay?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
You don't like Wobble Kid sucks?

Speaker 4 (50:13):
No, well, the mom sucks, the kids sucks. Everything sucks.
It's so annoying. That's why it's so great.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
But honestly, people in Australia, Australia, whatever, people with other
accents other than Bostonian accents, they suck, like right, be.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
A mass whole like sucks, just us, just the massholes.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
It's I get it.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah no, But this movie, I mean I had the
whole the drawings with the whole movie, Like I think
it's awesome, the way it's laid out and that weird
graphic novel.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Kind of thing, and then like it's up, it's awesome.
It's pop up.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
So there's a big difference between a pop up.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Yes, I know, I know that.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. Thank you for being you,
because it really makes me so.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Happy you are. So yeah, I know, like.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
So, yes Baba is my number eight pick.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
So I I don't hear many people that don't like
this movie, madam.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Yeah, why is it? Because it is.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Thirteen movie?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, and you know that's the end of my wave
because I I feel like I'd rather a PG thirteen
movie most of the time because it will be scarier
without having.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
To be like funck shit whatever, blah blah blah. I'm
gonna jab you and have all these like crazy that's.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Never one is probably Megan what No, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
I don't think saw Meghan.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
No, I never saw me.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Sounds like the fact that I like anyway. Okay, well,
I have no desire to. But the Bobba was scary
the whole thing. Anyways, I don't need to get into this,
but yes, Bobbidoo was mind number eight pick.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Next, thank you. There are some scary parts in the
It's scary. It's a lot of trauma. Yeah, that's definitely
what Imber I drew. Did you dry? We both drew
one of you guys did fairness.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I was a child when I did that.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
Okay, we more drawing, more drying, more drawing. Joke I
have it somewhere.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Oh sure, that's definitely one of like the poster children
movies for like horror as trauma type things, which, yeah,
for sure that was. I don't think that's an eight
twenty four movie, but that was before a twenty four. Yeah, okay,
but that's it's I don't know for me.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
P thirteen movies are. I find a lot of them
scarier because they don't have.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
To have the.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I get what you're saying. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah, fair enough, no words right? Words? Yeah? No words? Yeah? No,
all right, fair enough? So Bobby, do get number Eighthew
your numbers.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Next, here's another bomber, Irreversible No. Two thousand, Darren Aronofsky requem.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
For a Dream.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Oh that counts. I didn't know that counts.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
You mean that counts.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
You say that's one of your favorite hard movies all
the time.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Is that a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
It's a horrible movie.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Yeah, we would have. Yeah, Requiem for a Dream is
a quite a gut punch of a movie. And I've
actually this movie. I've watched probably fifteen times.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I own it.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
No, I want to get a copy of it though,
But the this movie I believe should be shown in
like high school health class.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
This would scare the ship out of anybody doing a Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
I mean the reality of like the like addiction it's
like And what you get is you have the heroin
aspect with Jared Leto and Jennifer Conley and Marlon Wayans, Yes,
and then you have Ellen Burston's character, which is much
more devastating with her addiction to like diet pills, which

(54:12):
ends it's like speed that's really sound, but you have
everything come to a head towards the end and it
just these people's lives just fall apart, and it really
is so fucking horrific, and it's over a course of
like nine months, like it really only is like summer, fall, winter,

(54:33):
and then that's it. Like they they don't even get
to a year in and it's like they're all their
lives fall apart, and it's just it is such a
fucking powerful, dreadful experience. But it is one of the
most I think it's one of the most important movies
ever made. Absolutely, I think it's absolutely necessary viewing for everybody.

(54:55):
I think, no matter how brutal it is, no matter
how bleak it is, every single person should have to
watch this movie. And the soundtrack is the soundtrack. The
score of this movie might be the best score of
a movie ever. It is unbelievable, how fucking just I

(55:17):
got goosebumps thinking of it. But it is just a really, really,
really fucked up hardcore drug movie, an urban horror film.
This is a horror movie without a question.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
It is because it is. I thought we were gonna
have this, I would. I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm shocked.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
I think it's one of the greatests that is kind
of goes under the radar and the horror scene.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
But yeah, well I'm glad that he remembered then, because
if no one remembered, we wouldn't be able.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
To talk about it.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I've always seen that movie when we talked about like
it's more adjacent because we did.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Talk Transponning is pretty fucked up to But I think
this one is just funny, a little goofy here, this is,
this is There's not a single laughable moment.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
There's nothing funny about this something they're.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Well.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
The cinematography is also insane. It's like extreme anxiety inducing movie. Yeah,
but yeah, No, Requiem for a Dream is on my
top ten or good one.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Okay, Requiem for a Dream at number eight, Matthew, Okay,
all right, that takes to me at number eight. On
the opposite end of the spectrum, I have a little
Canadian horror film directed by Stephen Kostanski and Jeremy Gillespie
from twenty sixteen called The Void. Anyone else is negative? Okay,

(56:47):
all right, So you've got work. If you know me,
you know that I love love crafting Tentacle Ship, and
I would argue the best or one of the best
love craft and technical movies to come out of the
two thousands is The Void, Seano.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
If you could drop the clip from Dumb and Dumber
of Lloyd you just saying I've got worms and just
at any point that'd agree.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
So The Void. If you haven't heard of this one,
it's it's I think it's on a bunch of streaming
platforms right now. But basically, the plot follows a cop
who gets called to a deserted hospital in the middle
of the night that gets surrounded by these cloaked figures
that are from some sort of a cult. They surround
the hospital and a bunch of people are trapped in there.
Anyone that tries to leave the hospital gets attacked by

(57:34):
these cloaked figures, and it turns out that these cloaked
figures are summoning some sort of presence within the bowels
of the hospital. And if you know anything about Lovecraft,
you have an idea of where this is going. But this,
just like Lovecraft, can really go. Lovecrafting horror, I should say,
goes in a couple of different ways. You have either

(57:56):
the cosmic dread, where things are implied and it's just
to it's like movies like The Lighthouse, that type of thing.
On the opposite end of love Crafting horror spectrum is
a movie like this where you see fucking everything and
it is extreme body heart, tons of gore, tons of kills.
It's ultra violent, awesome, very much like the Thing. If
you love the Thing, you'll probably love this movie as well.

(58:19):
And this is I actually thought we did an episode
on this, and we have not. It's been one of
those movies that I've always considered and it's a movie
that I absolutely love. Really yeah, yeah, so I knew sure, positive, Yeah,
I mean I haven't done an episode. I know I
wasn't on it, but I'm.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
In a billion times. Or we didn't drafts, maybe maybe
it was a draft. But yeah, this movie it's awesome.
But I do you said abandoned hospital. There's a bunch
of people there's well it's a deserted hospital. I should
say deserted. Yeah, but I I just it's it's it's
an awesome it's.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Great, is that though?

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Okay, So I'm thinking of another one. I might be off.
It's another couple of you. They leave and they go
to like like a church and like people get lit
on fire. What's that movie?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I don't know, and it charged in to that male.
It's not Mallem. It's not Blace Shift.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Last Shift?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Is that? It's what Mallam was?

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Yeah, so it was actually so Mali Malum is a
similar plot to so it was Last Shift because I
remember that scene.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
It was very similar. It was very similar movie.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but so yeah, The Void is definitely
It's one of those movies that I knew when we
were coming up with this list that it was going
to probably fall on my list. It was a matter
of just where. And I had to have it on
there because I absolutely love this movie.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Know who it is because it's one of your favorite movies.
Who is the doctor? He's in a bunch of shit.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Oh, I don't know the actor off the top of
my head, but I have the I have the Wikipedia
entry up. But that was Meg's eighth pick. Yeah, we're
about to be on number seven. So Kenneth that I
was swondering Kennedy Kenneth, well notice you were gone. Is
the actor who replaced the doctor in that movie. And
he was in Twin Peaks. That was a big thing.

(01:00:00):
It was in Twin Peaks. It's probably been in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
A bunch of TV shows. Yeah, it's like one of
those guys. It's got that face. Yeah, you know that face.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
You know that face. But he's got he's got like
that booming voice to him too, so he right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Around the same time too, is like the ritual the Void. Yeah,
what was that other one that I really liked to
Calibra was really good. You see calibra, yes, caliber caliber.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, that's calendar. It's British, the British, the British spelling
of calendar. Put the little calibre. Yeah, it looks like calibra.
It doesn't like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
You didn't like kill List.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I gotta give kill List to rewatch. I gotta I
gotta check that one out. Of it because I know
you recommended that so highly to me, and I think
I I think I was under the influence when I
watched it. I can foote. Yeah, that's a good one too.
That's a good one too, because I know that's not
all right. But the void Number eight for me had
flastens on. Yep, I'm gonna say this, and I already
know someone has this on their list. I had twenty
nineteen Mike Flanagan's Doctor Sleep at number seven for you.

(01:00:58):
I'll come up a little bit later in this spot cast,
which means that we are on to number seven for Catherine.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Yes, Hereditary.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yep, that's higher on a couple of lists. So we'll
pause on Hereditary there, which means we're to Matthew for
number seven. All right, We're gonna go back to Kat's
earlier pick. The Hills have Aleandja. Yeah, this was this
was close for me too.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
This movie is fucking hardcore, man. The original is hardcore,
but this remake is fucking bad ass.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, it's a great remake.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
It is so fucking violent and it is so enjoyable
to watch. This movie is greaz I'll let you go
off on it for a little bit because this was
your early.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Really, yeah, I can talk about how my no souldia
for this movie, like since you know, when I was
a lot younger ago, and I've watched it a billion
times now and now that I say to my daughter
at breakfast, I'm like, breakfast job, Like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Mean, that's kind of fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
But at the same time, she doesn't really know what
it's from, so it's funny to me, but it's Yeah,
it's a horrifying film from beginning to end. They fall
like it's it's the characters are unimaginable because like you
don't even know what people who would look like, and

(01:02:22):
then like they create, Yeah, they create these crazy characters
that you're just like, oh my god, that guy looks
like you're.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Like, I don't know words, like I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
There's like there's like guys, there's children, there's like it's
it's crazy, and there's still people like existing out in
this world and there's people that are.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Yes, yeah, it's it's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
It's crazy, and they just like they prey on different
chorus that go down the wrong path. They just happen
to stumble upon whatever, like that's a stereotypical thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
But I mean, yeah, it's all planned.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
It's all planned, and they have people out in the
hills with fucking binoculars looking at you all the time,
and you're just like, I don't know if I'm in
a rush to go up that direction.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
That trailer scene, yes, is so extreme rap yep. There
you have the dad.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
Getting lit on fire, and then meanwhile everyone runs out.
The other daughter gets raped, the mom gets shot, the
other sister gets shot, the baby gets taken almost shot. Yeah,
you're like, oh my god, it's just it's it's it's
such an impactful little scene and so and it's the

(01:03:44):
same way in the original one, all that same shit happens. Yeah,
and it's like it hits just it's fucking hard and
it's just like it's unrelenting. You're like, I remember the
first time I watched this, I was like probably twelve,
and I was like after that, I like positive, I
was like, I go like, yeah, it's like this is

(01:04:05):
like way too much. And that was like the one
of the first movies I saw that was like that violence. Yeah,
I was like whoa, Like this is no fucking joke,
And it was just that that whole scene is outrageous,
Like it's just it does not you. You're like like
Jesus Christ, like they just fucking killed everybody, like, and

(01:04:27):
then you have the great left Yeah, you have the
great second half where the son in law goes and
he has this like badass, fucking like change of character
revenge thing, which is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Not in the original one.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
But you get in there and he just fucks ship
up and it is just he wakes up in that
like bin full of body parts, and it's just like
you're like like god, damn bro, like it is just
fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Another icky movie, yeaheah for sure. Yeah, No Hills Have Eyes.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
That remake is arguably one of the best remake I
would say within yeah five, yeah, yeah, this movie fucking throbs.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
It's most likely would have been top three for me.
But I did make I didn't do anymakes, so like
I don't have anything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
It's the only remake I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
I know, and it's so good.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
That was because I don't just consider Evil Dead a remake,
like I think it's a I think it's another I
consider it in my head as another sequel.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
It's just a it's just a different.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
Well, yeah, because because I mean basically Evil Dead one
and Evil at two, the same movie, the exact same.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
So for calling those yeah, true, true, true, But yeah,
I know this this movie fucking it just is metal
like the Buffalo Bill getting Yeah, very sad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yeah, the scene with the sun in a lot at
the end, he's going through the abandoned town that was
set up with the mannequins to look like a fake
house when they shot off the new like the nuclear tests,
and he's walking through all the mannequins like not knowing
who's real and who's not. Incredibly effective and scary, like
like this gives you scares and it gives you a
ton of violence and gore, so you kind of come
if you're a gorehound, like come for the gore and

(01:06:06):
stay for the scares. It's like there's a lot, there's
a lot of pick axe.

Speaker 6 (01:06:08):
Yeah, big fat guy's neck, right is the pick axe
he's saving through the throat with like an American flag.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
A little like a little like a little like veteran
gravestat's right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Yeah, that that changed the character though, is one of
the best. Yeah, that's why I think he stands on business.
He looks like Michael Bolton from Office Space. It just
turns into an he stands on this. Yeah, that's a
hardcore pick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
So yeah, great, great call, great call. And The Hills
Have Eyes. So The Hills Have Eyes at number seven
for Matt and it was at number ten for you. Okay,
Hills have Eyes. Yeah, that's a great movie. I would say, yeah,
The Evil Yeah, I see what you're saying about Evil Dead.
The Texas Chainsaw, a remake with Jessica Biel is also
very good. That's a good remake, but it was original

(01:06:54):
one is very good too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
There's two good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Well. I wasn't gonna go there, but I would say
the Crazy's remake in the two thousands. That's also a
good remake that's in there. So there actually were some
good The Dawn of the Dead remake was a good
one too. There's some good remakes in the two thousand,
all right, So that means I'm at number seven here.
My number seven is a little Australian film. I'll tell
you the year, hold on one second of the director
if I can find it here. This was a movie

(01:07:19):
that I did not see until very rang a couple
of years. No, no, no, I saw the story this movie.
This movie came out in two thousand and eight. I
don't think I saw it until twenty twenty. And that
would be Lake Mango, directed by Joel Anderson, which apparently
we're gonna have a conversation about later on. He said,

(01:07:40):
love Lake Mongo. Can't read to talk about that one again.
All right. That means we're to number six, and that
is Andrew.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
So I have another French film me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
You Are You? Over five and a half film Film.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Eighteen Pascal laguerre Marchers. That's not two thousand eight.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Yeah, right, not the remake.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I put one in there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
No one else has this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Matt's seen this movie.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
Me and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
J Bone they.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Yes, yep. So you guys did an episode on this.
I have not seen this movie. Yeah, it's a funked
up movies. So there's some just it's just like it's
up there with like either not the American remake.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
No, not that you don't want to like the shotguns
scene when she goes through the house and just blows
the whole family away just because out of revenge. The
kids chill, Like this is like the amount of like
children being killed in the last decade of movies. I actually,
the more I look at my list too, there's a
lot of children being harmed.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
It's just it's just such, it's just such as such
a different level of a bar that makes it even
more like And also the children being harmed for being
she was also a child that was harmed with another
with her other friend because they were like almost like
sex slaves or some ship.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
They were a child.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
They were abducted as children and abused, so they're like
friend lived in the the that's right, and she had
like you know, a Foster House viol but there's always
that series fucking crazy lady that was being like tortured.
Like this movie goes into so many different layers and
the depths of like ship. It's it's a little convoluted,
but it's brutal, and it's Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Matt told me to watch this movie. And I watched
the movie, and I was like, Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
I'm like every movie Matt tells me to watch the
fucking movie, and then I'm like, I love that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
So I appreciate the disclosure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
But yeah, martyrs, I figured Matt might have this honest list,
but okay, Martyrs from two thousand and eight eight, two
thousand and eight, the French film Yes number six for
Andrew Catherine number.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Six, Insidious.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Is that a question? Yeah, military right, I believe you did.
Did I say, is Hereditary?

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
I said, okay, Insidious? Shine through ten?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Mostly because that one scene at the very end where
the guy with the orange face pops out, I will head. Yes,
literally Darth Maul like comes out at the end of
that movie and he's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Whoo and you're like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
I remember watching like that scene.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Like there's certain things with movies that I associate and
like I don't know what happened the rest of the movie.
That one scene will stick with me forever, and like
that's what determines a super fucking scary movie for me,
is that, like I something that can't I can't get
out of my head forever, Like that's there, it's there
for a while, Like it it's gone now.

Speaker 8 (01:10:50):
I don't remember him.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
I don't need the scene. I had to see Darth
Maul again. I think I saw Darth Maul in like
slow motion, and I was like I kind of did
my own therapy with it, like you know, slowly backwards forwards.

Speaker 8 (01:11:02):
Look at his face.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
He's okay, he's an actor. Just let's go back like
I did a little bit of my own thing with him,
so I think he's out of my head. But smart,
we won't even getting that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Do you want to talk to your therapist therapists?

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
But thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Conversation, Yes you want to talk to Darth Maul anymore? No,
I don't leave him away?

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
But yeah, so uh insidious, insidious, scar all time jump
Scared that you're talking about, Scared, huge jump Scared.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
So love watching like all of the sequels, like all
the different ones that come out, Like I thought that
they weren't horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
I mean, you know, decent every single time that you
were watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Wrang Just isn't everything that's like that? I know, it's
just the same guy, right, James wand loves Patrick. He's
in a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
I like James in his head almost.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
I do remember the first time I ever watched it,
and it was with you. It was at my apartment
in Quinsy. We watched it in my bedroom and we
were sitting with our backs up against my wall and
there were two open windows, and I remember that jump Scare.
I like leaned forward and I like looked out the
window and I actually I think I actually closed my
blinds because that jumps. That's such an effective Yeah, it's

(01:12:19):
a really effective jump scare. And then there's some scary
shit in that movie. The first Insidious is a very
scary movie. And that's one I think, to take your
point earlier, it's a PG. I think it's PG thirteen Insidious.
That's a scary movie for a PG.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
But no, you are right like those movies like I'm
sure it's on you this somewhere, but like those type
of movies are very scary, like that very scary, Like
the Counjuring scared me, like the first one in the
credit are Yeah, that's rated R though, so there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
But yeah, City is scary, though, Ken, I'll give you that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Insidious he is that movie is Yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
City is well, I think, I mean, the whole promise
of it I think is interesting. And like I don't
mind the sequels.

Speaker 8 (01:12:59):
I watched all them. It's like, what five of those
known a lot?

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
It's at least five.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Yeah, I haven't seen the most recent one that came
out last year, which supposedly was the last one. Yeah,
so we got to watch that. Okay, so Insidious at
number six for Catherine Matthew, number six, two thousand and two,
gasperno Irreversible. Okay, there it is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
This movie is not for everybody. I don't recommend it
to everybody. It's a rape revenge film played in backwards
chronological order, where you are starting with the aftermath of
them finding the perp or who they think is the
purp he's not, and killing him, smashing his head in

(01:13:47):
with a fire extinguisher. You get back, you realize that
this girl was at a party basically with her her
boyfriend and her ex boyfriend, which is a weird dynamic,
but it's a friend movie. And she leaves because her
boyfriend's just getting all fucked up and he's just being ridiculous,
and she walks through a subway. She gets the shit

(01:14:08):
kicked out of her, and it's a nine minute like
ordeal of her being abused and she gets raped and
they end up going to try and find the guy,
and so as the story goes on. The thing about
this movie that makes it good, oh like, because it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
It's not.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
It's a very hard watch but it's the way that
it's told and that it's backwards, and the fact that
that's how it works makes it that much more devastating
because you get through all the fucked up shit at
the beginning, and then you kind of go into like
the nice part of the movie where they're in love

(01:14:50):
and they're you know, they're happy and they're together and everything,
and that aspect of it brings it to just such
a whole other level of what makes it so effective.
It's again like this kind of is like Requiem for
a Dream where it could be argued that it's not
a horror movie, but it is a horror I think
it's a horror movie. It's a horrific movie. But as

(01:15:13):
the story goes on, you go back in time a
little more, you find out so much more stuff are
we doing spoiler Yeah yeah, sure, I mean you find
out that she found out that day that she's pregnant,
and like you're watching this dude, like just like kicker
in the gut and like everything. It's just like you
that that is almost more fucked up to find out

(01:15:36):
later then, like cause you're just like you're already through
the trauma of the movie and then that's just like
one more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Like layer two.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Yeah, that you're just like, oh my god, like and
like when you it's actually a movie that you don't
realize the true horror of it until you watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
A second time. Is that when the guy that they
killed isn't even the right guy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Yeah, it's it's it's a rough movie. It's not for everybody.
It's extremely controversial, but it is. It's a masterpiece of
a film. It's it is in terms of cinema, there's
nothing like this. It's so well made and so well

(01:16:26):
thought out. And the fact that he decided to do
it backwards. He tried to sell it forwards and there
is a cut on shotter that you can watch it
free at the back and the I own it and
there's a copy of the movie that I can do
the same.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
It's it's so much more effective backwards to front. It
almost feels like it's just like if you watch that, well,
that's why they didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Why am I watching this?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
But when you watch it back to front, it's it's
such a.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
Well yeah, because when you when you get to that
point that you said, you get to the beginning of
the movie and they've never been happier. But you know,
it's almost Irreversiblely, the fact that you know what happened
is it's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
It's one of the most it's another devastating.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
It's absolutely it's like speaking to evil, just trump the
back back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, I know, but this, this is just it's such
a harsh, harsh movie. That scene. Yeah, it's yeah, I
don't when I do watch it, I just skip over that,
like I watched the first time because you're like, you
have to You told me to see what.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Happens, but you don't ever have to do that him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Know, I watch it, I skip over it because it's
just it's too much. It's too much.

Speaker 6 (01:17:35):
That whole scene is like nine minutes long. It's a
single shot. There's no and that guy who was like
a UFC fighter the actor, so he he knows how
to like pull punchers and everything. So it just it
looks super real, like you're like, you're like, oh my god,
this guy's like kicking the fuck out of this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
It's what I was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
It almost looks like you're watching like someone recording.

Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
Yeah, Jesus, Uh, It's it's just rough and so but
at the same time. Like I said, the way the
story is portrayed, the way it's told and set up,
it's impossible to not actually like be like Wow, this
movie is fucking legit, so irreversible. Don't recommend it to everybody.
It's a hard watch. If you're a hardcore and you

(01:18:16):
want to check it out, do it. Don't blame me
fucking shit out there. But dude is a fucking animal.
He is just that guy is hell bent on making
you feel like dog shit in every movie that he's
ever made.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
I had a feeling gaspart in a way. Woul show
up on your list somewhere? No, I can't.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
I mean it's this is a landmark in French extremity
and just brutal horror cinema. There's no way this doesn't
make list.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Okay, Irreversible at number six for Matthew. All right, so
my number six is a two two thousand and seven
film directed by Frank Darabant called The Missed. Nobody else interesting? Okay,
so The Mist. If you haven't heard of or seen
this one, first of all, go watch the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Didn't we do we do an episode?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
We did do an episode on The Mist? Uh. This
is based on a Stephen King short story. It's actually
my favorite Stephen King short story. And so basically, like
I had heard about the short story a long time
before I actually read it because it was it was
an inspiration for a video game called Half Life, which
I love, really really scary game. Yeah, we talked, yeah,

(01:19:34):
because like so like the Half Life game has I
know the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Game I've played, Ye, that was like one of the
first like first person like if you have first person shooters.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
So it has like a there's an interdimensional rift in
the game where monsters come through and you're shooting that them.
It's awesome. It's a great game, you know, very influential
video game in the first person shooter genre, as you mentioned, right,
So the myst was an inspiration for that. So I actually,
you know, I picked up a copy of that short
story collection read it. It's an awesome short story, and
it actually is very faithful to the movie aside from

(01:20:03):
the ending. The short story kind of just ends. This movie, however,
does not just end. There's an extra coda at the
end of this where essentially, so essentially in the book
or in the story, I should say, the characters kind
of drive off into uncertainty, and then it just ends.
And with this they drive off into uncertainty, and it

(01:20:25):
looks like everything is getting so much worse the further
out they go. And let's just say that the dad character,
who's played by Thomas Jane, who's been a ton of
Stephen King stuff. I love Thomas Jane as an actor.
He's really good. He decides to put the rest of
the people that he's with, excuse me, out of their
misery in a very bleak and disturbing way, and then

(01:20:49):
come to find out that things aren't as bleak as
he once thought. I'll leave it at that, because if
this is one of those movies that you haven't seen yet,
I don't want to spoil the ending completely. I mean,
it's a movie that's eighteen years old at this point.
But this was another one of those movies that I
knew was going to make my list. It was just
going to be a matter of where. But I think,
you know, obviously people are gonna remember the ending in

(01:21:10):
this movie. But I think aside from that, it's a
really effective monster movie with some pretty cool practical effects
and there's some you know, the CGI is not horrible
for a two thousand and seven movie. And I think,
you know, just like a lot of other Stephen King stories.
In Stephen King movies, there's a great ensemble cast here.
I mentioned Thomas Jane already, but Marcia gay Harden's in this,

(01:21:30):
who plays Missus Carmody, crazy fucking character, religious whacko. She's
really good in this. She makes me so mad. Yeah,
she's honestly an all time despicable characters. She's great in
the movie. Laurie Holden's in and Andre Brower, Toby Jones,
Jeffrey DeMont who was in The Walking Dead, but a
bunch of other Stephen King stuff as well. I think
he was in The Green Mile. And then Chris Owens,

(01:21:51):
who played the Cherminader in the American Pie movies. Yeah,
who actually got and I met in Portland one time
on a on a brewery crawl of all places. Oh shit, Yeah,
it's pretty funny. And I was talking to him. I
was talking to him at Bissell Brothers finally, and I
was just like, hey, man, like you know, I'm a fan.
I was like, you're actually in one of my favorite
horror movies of all time. And he was like, oh
my god, the mist He's like nobody ever talks to

(01:22:12):
me about the myst. Everybody always wants to talk about it,
the American Pie movies and talking about the myst for
like five minutes. So it was pretty cool. But I
love this movie. Another movie with a very bleak ending,
but you know, it's it's a really cool movie aside
from that. So, like I said, it'll be remembered for
the ending, but it's a really cool monster movie. I
love monster movies, so it makes total sense for me.

(01:22:32):
And it's just a really cool premise too, Like you know,
a bunch of people trapped in one location with a
lot of uncertainty outside around them, being attacked by unseen
forces and you slowly start to see what's out there,
and the monsters look really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
So I Stranger Things kind of influenced by.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
This, I would say. So, I mean Stranger Things takes
influence from a lot of things, but you know, obviously
creatures being pulled for another dimension through science, scientific scientific experiments. Yeah,
that's kind of like the whole premise of Strain of Things.
So yeah, I love The Mist. It's a great movie.
Andrew and I still have to get together and watch
the black and white cut that I still have not seen.
But I mean I saw this movie in theaters when

(01:23:07):
I was in college, like that the weekend that it
came out, because I was such a big fan of
the original story and I had been kind of I
had earmarked my calendar for this movie coming out because
I knew that it was coming out, and I knew
Frank Darrebant was directing it. Who did you know Green
Mile and some other Stephen King stuff as well, Shawshank
he did. So Yeah, good director, good movie. Love the Mist.
I'm actually surprised didn't make your list as well, Andrew.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
It should have, but it didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Okay, yeah, and go back and listen to our episode
on The Mist if you want a little bit more
on that movie. So I love The Miss.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
That's that's That's one of my favorite thing about like
low budget now that it's low budget, but like low
budget Stephen King movies, is that they can get away
with the special effects being dog shit because it's such
a good story, it's such good dialogue.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
It's like it's fine, like I don't give a shit
exactly money for people. But yeah, so The Mist is
my number, which means we're on to number five. We're
about the halfway point here, So Andrew, you're number five
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Jordan peels us, Oh, I have it higher.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Okay, so we'll save the conversation on us for a
little bit later. Surprising, Catherine, you're number five pans Labyrinth
like Hell Toro.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
That's not surprising.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Nice pick. Yeah, that's definitely a cat movie for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Well, we've already talked about it. We don't need to
talk too much about it. But it's one of my
favorite movies. It's an awesome, nice, little scary fairy tale,
not really a fairy tale they call it, but even
like the pale Man, the guy with the eyes and
the hands, like really scary, one of my favorite villains. Like,
it's it's awesome the way that like they go through

(01:24:44):
this super dark like universe and the way that she
Ophelia goes through this whole universe of monsters and things
to try and find whatever, and it's it's an awesome
movie despite the subtitles. But I would never watch dubbed

(01:25:06):
over No. No, it's like I would never I would
never watch that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I feel like half the reason I actually really like it,
it's because it's in Spanish and like you can, I
kind of like just the language and like the emphasis,
and I don't know, I can't dubbed over movies in general,
are just you always subtitles?

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
No one does.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yeah, the dub dub makes it terrible. Yeah, but what
if Boso did the dub? Boso dubbed over.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
There's two views and it was uploaded this morning. Did
you make this video?

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Who fucking likes a piece of ship? This guy? Guy?
All right, Otis has joined us. Please don't make a
lot of noise. Yeah, pans labyrinthid a feeling would be
on your list. That's definitely. Uh, it's definitely a you
movie for sure. But this is this has Giermo del
Toro's stamp all over it. I mean it's a fantastic movie. Yeah,
it's fantastic. It's it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Lady in the Water.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
No, it was okay, it was okay.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
I thought Lady in the War.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
With it was a dumb like thinking of the other one.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Yeah, I was like chamlan Is and Lady.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Glorious bastards in it. Del Toro movie. It's like water
the shape of water.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Oh yeah, so oh that's a good you would like
them one one Best Picture at the Oscars. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
I mean del Toro has gone on to make other
movies like this. He like, he made Shape of Water.
He's making that Frankenstein movie that's coming out soon.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Countint of Curiosities, I think is one of the best
things he's ever done. That was great. On Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
I watched a couple of these. They're so good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
That was good.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
There are some good episodes, but yeah, no Pans Laborn slaps.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Okay, panslaborate number five for Kat when we did a
whole episode on that one as well, all right, Matt
number five.

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
Twenty twenty two, Zach kraignor Barbarian, That is good. I
love this movie, Oanks. I talked about it a lot
when we did our twenty twenty two draft.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
It was my number one pick. I won't get too
far into.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
It, but.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
Oh man, what a wild ride this movie was. I
saw it in theaters alone. I was the only person
in the theater.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
So weird, it was sick. Did we see it together
after that? Then? No? I saw that with you. No,
you didn't, Barbarian.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
This morning I did was that with you?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
We saw Barbara me, you would cats saw Barbarians.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Oh, we saw terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Two and three. This is a great this is a
great experience.

Speaker 9 (01:27:37):
For what else.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Let's go, Let's see No Barbarian.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
That movie just it goes so fucking hard and it
just goes in such a direction you don't expect it to,
and then even furthermore goes into a direction that is
so much more fucked up and twisted than what you're
given at first, and it is just a wild ride.
Zach Kreger, Yeah, fucking hit it out of them. Came

(01:28:08):
out of left field with this movie, for sure. I
did rewatch this recently before we watched Weapons, because I
wanted to give this another shot. I hadn't seen it
since the initial viewing, and I was disappointed in this
movie a little bit the first time I saw it,
and I think I liked it much more on the
second watch.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
So what do you think is better? Barbarian or Weapons?

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Oh, that's such a tough question. I still haven't seen Weapons. Oh, man,
I think they're both similar, to be honest with you
in terms of where my ranking of them and scores.
But probably Barbaria. Probably Barbarian.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
I think I like a little bit more because if
I knew we were playing twenty twenty five, Weapons might
have made my list.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Weapons is very Yeah, I know you liked it. Saw
today and he texted me today and said he thought
it was fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Yeah, I think you'll like it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Yeah, I think you will too. Yeah. They're very similar
movies in terms of like the way they're shot and
everything too, and told from multiple viewpoints. But the thing
I think I siated the first time I saw it.
This kicks into a different gear when Justin Long gets
involved all time fucking slam gombag. Yeah, which Barbarian, the
one that we just rewatched recently. Yeah, but this is

(01:29:15):
this is another one where it's such a stark shift
in tone, but he still.

Speaker 6 (01:29:19):
Has kind of like almost like a redeeming quality about
him in the Yeah, it's it was just very well
written and just really just like Yanks doing so many different.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Directions and it's it was just and Dick breaks was phenomenal. Yeah,
yes he was.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
You don't really see him that much, but he was.
That's a scary motherfucker, a gross character, scary motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
The scene of him going into the girl's house.

Speaker 6 (01:29:50):
Pretending to be like a dBW guy or like water whatever,
and he mocks your bathroom window, like fu dude.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Well that's actually it's a great point when you bring
up this movie, because Zach Craiger obviously has a background
in comedy, and I think that's another thing that's emerged
in the two thousands of people from the comedy world
dipping their toes in horror, whether it's Jordan Peel or
Zach Creigor or even like fucking Danny, Danny mcgreen or
David Gordon Green or Danny McBride who co wrote those
Halloween movies and was in Alien Covenant and was like
one of the best parts about Alien Covenant. So there's

(01:30:19):
a lot of people that are in comedy that are
doing horror now, and Zach Creigor is arguably one of
the biggest ones. Him and George Steel, Yeah, and listening
to him talk, they're making good movies. He's done a
lot of interviews on podcasts and TV and stuff and
YouTube channels for like promoting weapons. He's a great interview,
awesome guy. He seems like he's really knowledgeable about horror,
and he just I think I've warmed up a little

(01:30:42):
bit more on Weapons and hearing him talk about it,
like and thinking about the movie a little bit more.
But I walked out of it. I was like it
was good, Like it just wasn't like an all timer
for me. But yeah, Barbarian, solid choice at number five.
I know you love this movie, so I thought this one.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
I mean, it's kind of incredible though, that they can
pull Josh Brolin, Amy Maddigan, that that girl, what's she's
from Oza.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Oh yeah, Julius, Julius, Like they like to pull those.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
That talented and respected of actors and actresses. Yeah, for
a movie, but like his second like major film. Yeah,
that's It just goes show how good it was because
they all loved however this movie was written. They loved
this MOKEI one of the best parts about Weapons. By
the way, not a spoiler that the actor who plays
like the drug addict kid. Oh, he's he's been in
a bunch he was in The Walking Dead, He's been

(01:31:28):
in a bunch of stuff. I think he was in
one of the movies. He's awesome in that and he
was I guess he's going to be the lead in
Zach Kreigor's Resident Evil movie. That's coming out soon or
like next year or the year after something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
So all right, Zach Craiger on the list with Barbarian
at number five from that which brings me to my
number five, which would be from the year twenty twenty,
directed by Lee Wonell, The Invisible Man, Oo boo, really cool,
tough crowd over here. I had a feeling that I

(01:31:59):
would be the only one that this one on my
list to Elizabeth Moss. Elizabeth Moss, she ruins it. Yeah, Well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
Mean, she's great in Handmaid's Tale.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
But I mean I would argue on that. I don't
I've never seen Handmaid's Tale, but I think she's playing
a very similar character in this as she is in
Handmaid's Tale, a Handmaid's tale where she is a victim
of domestic abuse that is trying to escape this abuse.
But obviously the Invisible Man, I feel like I have
to give a shout out to Hollow Man. I feel

(01:32:30):
like The Hollow Man did not make the cut cut
because it was from the nineties awesome and awesome Invisible
Man type story with Kevin Bacon. If you haven't seen that, bute,
go check that one out. But I feel like that
movie ran, so The Invisible Man could soar because I
think this one just takes it up to a different level.
In this universal this is how you do a fucking
modern telling of a classic universal monster type story. I

(01:32:53):
feel like they've been trying to figure it out all
kinds of different ways over the years. They tried to
do that shared universe bullshit with that Tom Cruise Mummy
move with Russell Crowe's Doctor Jekyl, and they were gonna
have fucking Johnny Depp play the Invisible Man, and they
were going to do Pavier bar Dam as Frankenstein and
Angelina Joelee as the Bride, and all that fizzled out
because nobody had an interest in it. But this movie

(01:33:14):
just kind of took the bare bones of the Invisible
Man's story, stripped it down, made it modern, made it scary,
made it tense, made it relevant, and made it about
things like escaping from domestic abuse and gas lighting and
technology being a fearful thing. And I think that the
twist on what the Invisible Man actually is in this

(01:33:35):
is a really cool twist. There's some really scary effective parts,
and there is an all time surprise kill scene in
this at the restaurant, which I will never forget. I
absolutely love this movie. Philip gets slept on a lot,
but this is a movie I feel like that was
made for me. And again universal monster stuff, I'm always

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an easy lay for and this one was right up
my fucking alley. But then of course Lee went, well,
they said, okay, do this again with a different Universal
Monster character. And then he made the Wolfman movie that
came out this year that was not that great. So
it feels like they just can't they just can't get
it going with these Universal Monster meetings. But The Invisible
Man is a fucking a plus. I absolutely love this movie.
It was interesting about that movie and Holloman both star

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and actress whose name is Elizabeth and then she has
a four letter last name Shoe, Shoe and Moss Halloman
good cast. By the way, Josh Brolin's in that too.
Yeah yeah, Josh Brolin, Kevin Bacon, Elizabeth Shoe. There's a
few other people in that one too. That's Holloman's Hallman's aweso.
Not to be confused with Elizabeth Sock. But shame and

(01:34:41):
help myself, all right. So that's the that's theory, is
the Invisible Man for me at number five. All right, Andrew,
that means we're to you for number four.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
I have Malignant twenty twenty one, James one. Okay, so
you had this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Yeah, so I appy. I had malignan at number nine,
So nobody else malignant we can talk about, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
Talk about original horror films. I mean a little bit
of the dark half going on in this movie, but
this is one of the most fun movies that I've
seen in like the last fifteen years. It's just such
a fun horror movie. Like it's so fucking batshit crazy,
Like the scene in the police station, Yeah, those wild

(01:35:23):
scenes that was like, And this was one of the
most unexpected movies. I thought I was gonna like you
guys were like, oh, because we saw this in theaters, right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
So this actually we didn't see it in theaters. This
was released during COVID. It was Oh, that's right, I
think it was released in theaters.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
We watched it here, watched it, washed it all together,
and I was like, this is the most wild fuck Moviekay?

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
Is that the only time we watched it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
And I think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
I remember watching because I remember having zero expectations for
that movie. And then I was like, oh my god,
this movie's insane, absolutely insane. It's one of the like
most original, funny, awesome, batshit crazy movies. And like James
wand nailed it, Like this is I find this movie
way better than Saw or what all his other.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Fucking yeah, I mean I love this. That was the
main takeaway for me is that it's James one right,
So yes, he Dames wrote jameson Road.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
Noticed the trend here, James.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Wan well he okay, so he wrote undeniably a hugely
influential voice in modern horror. Right wrote and directed Saw,
wrote and directed Sidius uh in Cidius excuse me, wrote
and directed the first Conjuring movie. Hasn't done any of
the sequels, But like, so he created all of these
popular franchise horror movies that have come out and made
a ton of money in the twenty first century. This

(01:36:34):
is what he should be doing. More of the fact
that he can make a movie like this that's as
awesome and crazy and bananas as this with the type
of twists that it has. And yes, I understand like
it draws a lot from jalloh influence, and like there's
a lot like this movie draws a lot from seven,
I feel like stylistically and like the police station scene,
the chase scene very much seven, Right, But there's one

(01:36:58):
of those movies I'll never forget where I was when
I saw and I was just like when they were
were revealing things, I couldn't believe it. It was fucking insane.

Speaker 6 (01:37:06):
You're like watching this person run around and you're like,
what the fuck is like wrong with them? You're like,
why do they run like that? And then you get
the reveal and you're.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Like, what the fuck. And this was another one that
I rewatched leading up to this podcast because I wanted
to see if, like once the initial the initial like
twists and shock wore off from seeing it that one time,
if it would hold up. And I think it held
up perfectly everything, Like like then it involves, so it
takes place in Seattle and involves like the underground city
in Seattle. That's a cool aspect of it. And the

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way it starts out, and it's like a almost like
a like a fifties b science fiction horror movie where
it starts out like at this gothic insane asylum up
on a hill and it's thundering and lightning and there's
some unseen creature that this killing people in the hallway,
and then they're trying to subdue this character time to
cut out the cancer, and then it just flashed forwards

(01:37:59):
to present day and this woman and all this weird
shit's happening to her, and she's seeing people being killed
through her eyes, being killed by somebody else. So you're
trying to figure out what the fuck's going on, and
then when you eventually do find out what the fuck's
going on, it's insane. So this is the type of
movie that I feel like. I feel like a lot
of people don't know about this movie. So if somebody

(01:38:20):
ever asks you for an under the radar horror movie recommendation,
recommend Malignant to them, and then if you're watching it
with them, just watch them fucking squirm because this movie
is wild.

Speaker 5 (01:38:29):
Because it's and it's a movie that I think a
lot of people, whether you're a horror fan or not,
you'll enjoy it, yeah, because it's it's so many different
styles of movie.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
It's not just a horror movie. It's not just gory.

Speaker 5 (01:38:39):
Yeah, it's funny, it's entertaining, it's fast paced, it's ash,
and it's drama. It's be horror, it's every it's everything
you could ever ask for. Because I was like, this
movie has to be in my top ten because it
is just so different than anything you'll ever watch.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Yeah, this, this was my number one movie of twenty
twenty one, and I was like this this, I feel
like this has to be on my list too. Then
I'm happy to say it does hold up. So Checkligan
if you haven't seen that yet, which is at number
four for Andrew, which means we're a cat for number four.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Oh that was your pick.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
I was like, because Mike's talking about I was like, Okay,
my fourth pick is us.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
Do you want to talk about us?

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Since we're talking about Elizabeth Moss, I will say this
is one of her better roles.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
To be honest, she actually was really good in this,
Like she was gonna be a whole couple.

Speaker 11 (01:39:34):
Yeah, she's great, like and in like Handsmaid Tale and stuff,
like she's gonna flip flop in from like this like
crazy handmade Tale to like this crazy libertarian like I
mean for all the people think like she flip.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Flops in her character so much, but more so in
us because like she's all of a sudden this one
character of a mom and family and then all of
a sudden you see the us What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
What is it called the Heather?

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Heather?

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
Yes, that's you think about the scene where they're in
their big glasshouse and the kids are upstairs listening.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
To the Beach Boys, and that's one of the best songs. Yeah, no,
it's not that song.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
It's it wasn't a good Vibrations. Nope, it's not good vibrations.

Speaker 8 (01:40:23):
It is good vibrations.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
It is big enough good.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
I think it is that only that only does a
fantastic job with the music in it, because I got it,
like that whole remix, the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
And he's like, don't come, don't come any closer. I
will call the cops and he's like, get out of here,
like and I feel like I would. I like, that's
I love I love that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
And you watch did you know that Alongo played two
roles in that movie too?

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
She? Did you know?

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
That was a different person right with the same person.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
I didn't know. Actually I can't. I think I did
know because she looked so similar, so herrimp me up
was I yet I know that? But I mean the
thing that tripped me up?

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Is that like he looked different as the other guy,
so like they dressed differently they were, but I appear
the same Like she's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Never mind, I'm just sticking myself a deeper hole, aren't I.
That's fine, It's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Okay, sorry, okay. Anyways, Yes, US is my pick and
I love US. I watch US like a million times.
That's one of those movies I feel like I would
throw on, like if I saw it on TV and
it was just on, which it won't be, but it's like,
you know, Twister, Jurassic Park.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Uh so I'd be like, yeah, like they're like on,
like just throw it on in the background, Like yeah,
is that a weird thing to say that on?

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Nope, No, not at all, kind of though.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
No, it's very interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
Yeah, it's I had to have I had to have
a Jordan Peele movie in my top Yeah, because it
was it was between, it was between this is Nope,
Like I love get Out Out a great one, but
these movies are so much more fun. I like how
fun these movies are, and I think he really explores
a lot more of it, like humor, comedy and just different.
It's just because I Nope, was tough I almost picked No,

(01:42:14):
I love you Nope.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
Like three times in the theaters, right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I did? I love that?

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
And yet it's not a.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
I had to go back in retrospect and I had
to really think about it, like did I enjoy I
didn't like seeing Nope in theaters? That movie is meant
to be seen theaters, right, seeing Us in theaters you
don't have to see in theaters.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
It was cool in theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
But Nope is filmed in that you know it was
meant yeah, yeah, yeah, see that again. That speaks to
Jordan Peele as a filmmaker that really, on anywhere on
anyone's list, could have been Get Out, US or Nope.
I think all three of those movies are, you know,
spectacular in different ways. US I think might be my
favorite of the three. It's an awesome movie, and I

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think it's it's a really interesting movie that has some
unique twists for sure. So it's just, yeah, Jordan Peel's
awesome filmmaker, and he's one of those guys that anything
that comes out people are going to go see now
based on the films that he's made. So US is
a very good one, A great choice. Thank you, you're
Welcome Matthew Number four twenty sixteen. Damian Leone Terrifier.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Oh I had Zee that was so close to being online.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
I've done.

Speaker 6 (01:43:26):
This movie is fucking one of the most important movies
to come out in the last twenty years for horror.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Your first movie choice for the podcast right what?

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
This has set a new precedent for what low budget
horror can achieve. We've seen it with Terrifier two and
Terrifier three getting these huge theatrical releases. They are batshit,
fucking off the wall, out of control, violent, fucking gore
fest movies. And they're in theater. That wasn't a thing

(01:44:02):
ten years ago. Now you weren't going to see that,
and now they are. This movie has established itself. Damian
Leoni has established himself, Arthur Clown has established himself. It's
it's fucking not stude, and this movie is just it's
it's so hardcore. The Arthur Clown is arguably one of

(01:44:26):
the top horror movie villains.

Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
Fair to say, he's almost maybe possibly eclipsed Pennywise.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
The Clown. No close, he's up there, man, He's clips Yeah, no,
not a clipse, but he's close.

Speaker 6 (01:44:40):
But the special Conversation special effects that they are able
to achieve on such the low budget, Like Damian Leoni
knows what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
It's this.

Speaker 6 (01:44:50):
This movie rocks. It is fucking awesome. And I have
a huge spot in my heart for Arthur Clown.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Oh, I gotta say Arthur Clown. I enjoy him way
more than Pennywise. But he's like a he's a Yeah,
he's like a mine. He's the best mind.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
That's a mine.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
Shoutouts Damn Clown, shoutout Time Clown, David Howard Clown playing
man Clown.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
So yeah, I know this movie had to make the
list especially I had to make a high spot on
my list because I love the Terrifier series.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
I was wondering when you're gonna have one of these
on your lists.

Speaker 6 (01:45:25):
So you chose Terrifier instead of Terrifier two? Yeah, because
this is There is no Terrifier Too without Terrifying. True,
arguably there's no Terrifier without All Hallows. But this is
the better movie.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
You think Terrifier one is better than Terrified too, No,
this is better than All Hollows. Okay, okay, fair because
I so I think I Terrified too. I think it's the.

Speaker 6 (01:45:46):
Same way that I would like to pick Friday the
Thirteenth Part two over Friday the thirteenth, but I can't
because there is no Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
I'm telling you, I can't. So the woman getting sodden
half out of control, Yeah, insane kill, out of control,
insane kill.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
That's one of my favorite thing about my like my
Blu Ray cover I have, like the German version, that's
the cover with that on the top, so it's just
like cutting out.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
The artwork is so good on.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
That has to be one of the biggest stories in
horror of the last twenty five years is the Emergency
Terrifier movie Changed heart. Yeah, forever being in theaters making
the money they have now art, the art, the clown
of the Terrifier movies are at Halloween har Knights this year.
They I didn't talk about this because I want to
talk about something else for piquing my interest. But like
the Haunted House, they're doing is based on all three

(01:46:31):
of the films, with supposedly a splash of the fourth
one in there.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
I mean they were at the Nasty Back.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
Universal Is did research on poop smells for the Haunted
House to pipe in for the scene from the first
movie where you smear shit on the walls.

Speaker 5 (01:46:46):
It's just they could have just paid me a fart,
supposedly would have died.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
There is a there's gonna be a part. So when
you walk into the house, they're going to give you
an optional pauncho because there's a room where you get
sprayed with warm water. It's supposed to start blood, and
they pumped an iron scent into the water, so it
actually smelled like blood. So disgusting. Yeah, it's absolutely insane.
The trajectory that Damian Leone Arthur the Cloud of the

(01:47:12):
Terrifier moves have been on.

Speaker 6 (01:47:13):
It's gonna it's They're fucking awesome. Has he said that
the fourth one is gonna be the last one?

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Are they? It's gonna be fourth one? Is the last one?
Is supposed to be the finale for Arthur Terrifier at
number four for that, which means it's to me for
number four. And my number four is a little film
from twenty eighteen from Ariostra called Hereditary, which I think
will table that conversation for a little bit longer.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
Further Alan, Sorry, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
Top three folks, Andrew number three. So my number three
pick is a sequel from twenty seventeen. It is Creep two.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
As much as I'd like Creep one, Creep two is
far superior. It is so much better that the girl
in this is such a better like villain, better opposite
to him, No, like better opposite like he like, like,
it's just a better It's a cooler story like that
oh Romeo and Juliett thing at the end when he's
like trying to get her to fall in the grave

(01:48:08):
with him, like cut her throat and kill herself with him,
and then he just ends up stabbing her and pulling
her into the grave.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
It's just such a like, it's such a creepy fuck movie.
And it's an hour and twenty minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
It is just the smoothest, quickest Yeah, and it's he
somehow managed to Mark Duplas, somehow Ne's to be so
much creepier in this movie than he was in the
first one. This is one of those sequels that I
was like, it's tough to pick a sequel because, like
you said, like without this, without Creep, there's no Creep two.
But Creep two is superior in every way.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
I thought, Yeah, No, speaking of farts, Mark Duplas is
a guy that loves the smell of his own farts.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Do you think so?

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Absolutely? Yeah. I remember he was doing some press for
the Creep tapes on Shutter and he just he seems
like the type of guy. It's like, all right, he
needs to get in touch with reality a little bit.
But fremo. Yeah, Creep. The Creep movies are awesome. I'm
surprised you picked two, but I understand and what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
For I think it's a better story because like to
still scare you and be even scarier in that movie
after you saw what he did in the first one
is to me it's impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
Yeah, the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
I found it to be a more enjoyable movie. And
I love the first Creek.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Yeah, good movies, good found footage movies. Love the what's
the what's the the? What the wolf mask? Fluffy? Somebody
calls no fluffy?

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
What a sweet? No sweet? Not Sweet'm now fluffy?

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Peach Peach fuzz peach fuzz peach fuzz. I knew it
was something like that. Okay, Creep too at number three
for Andrew Catherine Number three.

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
Uh eleven's Cavin in the Woods. Oh you wouldn't hire.
I knew you did. I knew you can in the
woods higher.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Okay, so we'll table the conversation on Cabin in the
Woods for a little bit. Matt, you're number three. My
number three is two thousand and eighth ol Anderson, Lake Mungo.
Let's talk about Lake. What a fucking scary fuck is.

Speaker 6 (01:50:05):
This is the first movie I've seen in a long
time that genuinely like turn the lights off after the
movie was over and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
I don't want to go in my room. Yeah, this
movie freaked me the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Yeah. Same again.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
Another movie kind of like in the Realm of Barbarian
where it kind of yanks you all over the place.
It's a bit of a roller coaster, but god damn
doesn't have one of the fucking scariest jump scares I've
ever seen in a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Yeah, and it's like it's a jump scare, but it's
also like it's not a cheap jump scare, like it's earned.

Speaker 12 (01:50:44):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Impresses me because you're not a huge found footage person either.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
It's not really found footage. It's like a mockumentary. Have
you never seen have you ever seen Lake? Bungo. Yes,
oh yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, this is like
found footage like kind of like, yeah, mockumatic, but it's
the same vein like you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
It's a little more clean, like it's very It's almost
one of those movies where you could tell somebody is
I told Sarah that because I convinced her to watch
it with me, because I told her it was a
real doctum.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
Was she like blown away?

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
No, she was like, dude, this is fucked up. Like yeah,
it's got the found footageentlement, the mockumentary style, but it's
also it feels like dream like in a way to
do the way it's shots so out of control. Have
you seen have you seen like Mungo. Yeah, it's almost like.

Speaker 13 (01:51:25):
Well so we did the episode on like I believe
whenever people I think that's it in depth, okay, I.

Speaker 4 (01:51:35):
Feel like that's why I feel like I watched it
and then I kind of like let it marin it
and it's like out of my head, like I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
I watched that scene is absolutely just horrifying.

Speaker 6 (01:51:49):
Whenever people are like what's like a good scary movie,
like on Facebook groups, I always recommend this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
Yeah, it is just it is really fucking scary. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:52:01):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:52:01):
And even before you get to that point when you
kind of are in the realm of like what's happening
before and like you're kind of following like the haunting aspect,
it's still fucking scary as ship You're like, dude, because
you don't know, You're like, this is fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Yeah, but you get to that ending and you're like,
oh my fucking god, dude. Yeah. I I took movies
that genuinely frightened me into big consideration for my list,
and there was so there's another movie that I'll talk
about later on that is terrifying. This this movie I
think was in second place. And the other movie that
I considered for my list that didn't make it that

(01:52:38):
also scared the fucking shit on me was Pulse. But yeah,
Lake Mungo Is You're absolutely right, Like that is if
people just want a scary movie that is not like
filled with gore and you know, sex and violence and
all that, like this is a fucking scary. Yeah, it
really scaries.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Who doesn't want to watch that movie?

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
I own sex boobs, Like you're you're a casual horror
fan that wants something scary that's not like ultra you know,
off over the you know no, And I think, like,
I don't know, and this is I know a lot
of people be like, oh, really, what the fuck? But
like when I saw like The Blair Witch Project in
theaters when I was like thirteen years old, that movie

(01:53:19):
scared the fucking Jesus out of me. And I don't like,
after watching this movie, I felt like scared on it
like a similar level. Yeah, like I was. I was
really genuinely like frightened.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
Yeah, scary.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
It really fucking was like turning like I'm not kidding,
like turn the lights off. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
There's very few types of the movie that do that
to me, and it's usually like the found footage documentary
style of movies that do that because it just seems
so real.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
It's just that jump scarre is fucking instane.

Speaker 5 (01:53:44):
Yeah, there's also just like that, like you give me
like that Unsolved Mysteries Robert Stack vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Yeah, it's like it makes me like the lights happen,
like where's my dad? Like that that scare. I think.
I think what's so effective about it is that the
fact that it is a found footage type movie, mockumentary,
whatever you want to call it, Like the green inness
of that shot. If it was in like ultra high depth,
I don't know if it would be as scari or
as effective.

Speaker 5 (01:54:10):
And it's just like you because you're want it, because
because yeah, I feel like, yeah, maybe it's just me,
but we're all in an age where we've seen a
photo where there's something in the background and it's not
a focus and it's kind of weird, and you're like,
what the fuck is that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
That's scared me. Yeah, I know, this movie is fucking scary.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
It is very scary.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
This is like one of the scariest movies I've ever seen.
We just watched something that had that like recently.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Yeah, is it on your list?

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Then nobody cares?

Speaker 4 (01:54:40):
Sorry anyways, Yeah it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:54:45):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Lake three, that's a very good choice and also on
my list, so Lake Mungo at number three. From that,
My number three is a twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
It was the clown thing, the clown on the cornfield
where they had the clown in the background and the picture.

Speaker 13 (01:54:59):
Oh okay, yes, okay, yep, yep, I just saw something
exactly what you're thinking, like, sorry, that was my brain
for out love.

Speaker 4 (01:55:10):
Let's keep moving on, all moving on, moving on to me.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Number three for me twenty nineteen's Doctor Sleep from Mike Flanagin.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Right on, brother, I had like seven, I think, Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
You already have already had Oh yeah, yeah. So this
is another movie that we did a whole episode on,
so I won't I won't go on about it forever.
I feel like I could go on for a long
time about this movie, but it y. I think it
takes a special effort to be able to do what
Mike Flanagan did with this movie because obviously, like you

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can do all sorts of research in the fact that
obviously Kubrick's The Shining classic movie, Fantastic Movie five stars,
very different from the Stephen King novel The Shining, which
I listened to recently for the first time in years,
and that's an awesome novel, but it's very different in
a lot of ways. So they're two separate things. And
it's interesting because the more popular thing is the movie

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based on the novel by Stephen King, which that's usually
never the case. So Flannagan had to make a sequel
that was faithful to the Kubrick movie and also show
some respect to the Stephen King novel on both ends.
So the fact that he was able to do it
and make a fantastic movie as well, I think it's
just a it's a huge feat. And this is a

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movie that it did not do well at the box office,
which is kind of a disappointment for me because I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Like this this is that's going to be market that's
going to be marketing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Yeah, I don't feel like w B really knew what
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:56:40):
How this movie doesn't get marketed properly as the sequel
to Signing?

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Did they not tell anybody this? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
I don't think they did. Yeah, uh it was How
do you not know that?

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
I mean, but I just think so. Also, Ewan McGregor massive,
he's great.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
So you have that and see to The Shining and
you can't market that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Yeah, the target you and Gregor are playing an adult
Danny Lloyd or d Danny Torrance. Excuse me, Danny Lloyd's
the actor that played Danny Torrance. But like he's great
in this movie. You know, Stephen King wrote The Shining
about addiction. This is about recovery. Sorry, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Is there any reason they couldn't just say, like in
their marketing sequel to The Shining.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
I think they they did, but I don't think that
they marketed it enough. I don't think that they they
should have put a big marketing budget behind this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
I mean, yeah, and all of a sudden, like I
remember watching it the first time with the year and
you're being like, oh, it's sequel the Shining.

Speaker 5 (01:57:38):
I've talked to Sony who I'm like, if you're seeing
Doctor Sleep, they don't even know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
Like, yes, I think there in lies part of the problem, right,
is the title of it, doctor Sleep. It's not the
Shining Doctor Sleep. Which also I love that they kept
the title and they didn't make it like doctor Sleep,
call in the Shining Too or something like that that
would have been sting.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
In Doctor Sleep, Danny goes to school.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
Yeah, but I think it's just it's an awesome It's
Mike Flannigan obviously has done a ton of great stuff
on TV. I think this is his masterpiece. Dot Yeah,
and I think the fact that he chose to not
digitally recreate some of the people from The Shining, and
he used actors with prosthetics to make them look very
similar was a great choice. I think all of the

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stuff where he recreated the Overlook, which obviously is not
in the book. I haven't read the book. I know
you have that, but I know that that stuff book is,
so that's on my list to read. But I thought
the Overlook stuff and Doctor Sleep was awesome when Danny
goes back his conversation with his father at the bar
at the hotel is phenomenal. Just a great movie that

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I feel like everyone should see. Like if you if
you love The Shining and you haven't seen Doctor Sleep, like,
what the fuck are you even? Yeah? I feel bad
for people because they probably don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
Yeah, because this movie's top tier type of movie.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's just it's a great story too.
It just it shows what happened to Danny after The Shining,
how his life kind of fell up heart and then
him trying to piece it back together. Rose the Hats
one of the al Yeah, great villain. Also back ferguson
so sexy. That baseball field box scene is so bad Sea,
that's really he said, He's that gets killed in the book, Yeah,

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get killed. Yeah. The truth A roaming game, a roaming gang,
of psychic vampires that eat souls. Pretty cool and it's insane. Yeah,
I find the people that have the shining. Yeah, Doctor Sleep,
what a movie? Love that. So I knew that was
another one I knew was gonna be on my list.
Was just a matter of where. So Doctor Sleep at
number three for me, all right, Andrew top two, let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:59:35):
Number two for me is twenty twenty. I keep saying,
that's twenty twelve. Scott derreckson film Sinister, ooh, underrated movie.
I feel like, I feel like it gets plenty of love,
but like it gets like bad reviews and I don't
get it because it's it actually is one of the

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It's one of the horror movies that brought my faith
back to horrmonies.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Cause there was a little hiatus for me between like
twenty two.

Speaker 5 (02:00:04):
I keep saying twenty two thousand and two and like
twenty twelve, But there was like plenty of good horror movies,
but I hadn't seen a lot of the ones that
I wanted to. But Sinister was such a unique, like
real original movie because that was like you had all
those fucking just trash horror movies like the remakes that
all came out and all that shit and that came out,
and that movie scared the Jesus out of me. Like

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those snuff film scenes are just Yeah, there the scene,
the pool scene where they.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Just all the garage scene is a lot.

Speaker 5 (02:00:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
The music is really the music really is most of it.

Speaker 5 (02:00:41):
Like the ending is a little man, but they do
such a good drap job of just building just terror.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 5 (02:00:50):
Any again, anytime you involved little kids like this to me,
weapons between weapons, sinister prisoners, like they're all kind.

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
Of like in that same van.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
Yeah, Sinistor is an incredibly scary movie for a PG
thirteen movies, is it?

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
No, that's rad?

Speaker 12 (02:01:07):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Okay? So I thought it was PG thirteen. So and
I remember i Google. I just googled this and I
remember seeing this. So Sinister is scientifically, according to certain studies,
the scariest movie ever made. This is an article the
blood pressure thing. Yeah. So this is from Fangoria from
last October. For the third time since twenty twenty, Scott

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Derekson's twenty twelve modern heart classic Siniastor has been named
the scariest movie of all time, according to an annually
updated study by the folks. That's the Scare of Science Project.
Science of Scare Project basically screen new films every year
to determine the scariest movies based on what gets your
heart pumping and your pulses racing. So in that sense,
this has been determined three times to be the scariest

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movie ever made.

Speaker 5 (02:01:54):
Yeah, I will say like this movie got me back
in horror movies because, like I would like, I was
just casually watching the ship that was just available to me.

Speaker 3 (02:02:04):
In this movie.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
I was like, it was like, I think the condre
and came out, and then this came out, and then
there was one other one right around this time too
that was pretty evil. Dead the Remaker come out before that,
I think, and it was like all right, I was like, okay,
it's back.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Yeah, I love this movie.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
Yeah, Sinis, there's a great choice. That's That's another one
that's like very that's a Blumhouse. In this case, Blumhouse
shipped out a gold nugget. Who would have thought, you know,
instead of the fucking broccoli scented kidney stone they usually
out even a blind squirrel finds it. Not every once
in a while we're.

Speaker 3 (02:02:40):
Saying some gross things on the side.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Is that way, Megan is.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
Going to be your next one?

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
No may it's not on my list.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
I honestly, I like exactly, no, no, no, it's just
like that one. We're like like her favorite.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
Is an a that thing like.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
All right, cat, that means we're at your number two.
My number two is The Ring the Rands is gonna
be on there something.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
It's number two.

Speaker 5 (02:03:21):
Thatt's first foreign film, the American Americans.

Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
Know the American version has haunted me for a very
very very long time, and it's one of my favorite
movies of all time.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
And I still see smart in the corners of my
room sometimes turning on my glasses on I'm going to
bed at night, Like I look over and I'm like,
oh my god, So yeah, this whole the whole movie
resonates to me. It's just it's so creepy from beginning
to end, even more so now that I have a
kid and like pictures, like, it's just there's a million things.

Speaker 4 (02:03:58):
It's such a basic movie of like just a basic family.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Dynamic, basic things that happen, and then all of a sudden,
I think more things happen, and it's just it's spirals.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
Into this crazy. Yeah, it's an awesome movie. It's a
great movie.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
I don't even know how to describe it, to be honest,
Like I don't really know, Like yeah I could, how.

Speaker 4 (02:04:23):
Would any but how would anyone know? Like how would you?

Speaker 12 (02:04:26):
She just wanted to be heard, like I mean the
whole way, Like none of it makes sense, None of
it takes any sense at all, none of it, And
it's just it's crazy, it's wild, and I just I
could watch it forever, and I do watch for I
actually own it on VHS.

Speaker 4 (02:04:42):
Damn, yeah, I know that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
Do you even have a VHS player?

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
We do not have a VHS player? And you might
as well throw that in the trash.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
Sure, everyone in the storage.

Speaker 1 (02:04:53):
But I don't know. Maybe there is, I'm not aware.
I can't hate on the Ring. The Rings scared the
shot out of me the first time I saw it too.
I saw that one really young. When Samara comes out
of the TV. That's scary, fucking yeah, that part. It's
a very scary movie.

Speaker 4 (02:05:05):
It's the girl in the closet, girl and her head
dropped it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
Yeah, you know someone with the little boy. Is that
the grudge? That's the grudge? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, there
was the whole like that horror American remake thing that
came out in the early two thousand. Well, yeah, Pulse,
they remade, they remade Pulse.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
Yes, I was watching Pulse with him and I was like, wow,
this has like seriously grudge to it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
Yeah. Also, I feel like the way this is shot.
It's also very like like the stuff on the videotape
is scary. Like everything shot through like this blue lens,
so everything looks like dark like when you watch the
movie when the horse jumps off the boat. Scary.

Speaker 5 (02:05:46):
Yeah, it's just a thing. It's a scary I mean,
did anyone ask that horse if you could swim? No,
nobody just jumped off that seriously. Yeah, another whole scary
PG thirteen movie. Yeah, pretty scary thirteen. Sure, yes, definitely
definitely Peg. It's that wild yeah, wild and crazy kid.
You should have had an over. I don't know how
many PG thirteen movies cabinets. Almost Happy Death Day? Is

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that your number one?

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
Shouldn't that's a shame it?

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
Well, it's fine of my right, Well all right, well
it's not Happy Death Day, but it is the ring
that had number two for Cat, which means the word
number two for Matt twenty eighteen, ari Astra hereditary.

Speaker 6 (02:06:26):
Yes, this, let's talk aboutary. This has the best scare
I've ever seen in a movie.

Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
It's this.

Speaker 6 (02:06:37):
I saw this in theaters. It's the scene when he
the kid, wakes up in the middle of the night
and it's dark, and the way it's shot is brilliant
because you're the camera in the darkness adjusts just the
way your eyes would if you were waking up in
the dark, and you're like kind of looking around and

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you see the mom in the owner of the room.

Speaker 1 (02:07:00):
Like a spider and it was dude. I was in
the theater and I was like, yeah, nuts, it was
so fucking scary, dude. Like I jumped.

Speaker 6 (02:07:13):
I've never jumped out of my seat in a movie
theater before until that I and everyone did because everyone
saw it at the same time, and everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
Was like, oh my fucking god, like and then two
fucking waters across the room.

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
That that movie is insane.

Speaker 6 (02:07:31):
You have the little girl getting her head decapitated on
the fucking telephone.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Believably brutal, dude, like all while.

Speaker 6 (02:07:40):
She was like suffocating. It's just a larger, miserable and
he doesn't do it. He just brings her headless body
back to the house in the car. Yeah, it's just
you don't know what you'll do in that situation.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
I don't think I do.

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
That scene was that that got me.

Speaker 6 (02:07:57):
That was like, but this movie, this movie he kind
of like introduced us to what our Astra is willing
to show people because you have Tony Kollett the next
morning finding that happening, and you're exposed to such a traumatic,
grief filled moment that we had zero fucking business being

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a part of, and it was.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
Awful, Like sitting through that was awful.

Speaker 6 (02:08:30):
Yeah, and then you have the dinner scene where she's
yelling at him, like I like involuntarily like held my
breath through that whole scene. That's the first time that's
ever happened to me in a movie where I like
held my breath because I was like, oh my god, dude, Like,
this is just why am I here? Like why am
I watching this? And that movie is just our Astra

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has such an incredible way of depicting grief in the
first place and just.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Not only exposing you to it, but immersing you directly
in it.

Speaker 6 (02:09:07):
And it is just that movie is fucking brutal, dude,
Like not in the terms of violence or anything like that,
but like you are just like subjected to such intense
emotional like trauma basically on the behalf of another person,

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and it is insanely gripping. The acting is great, it's
just like, but dude that jumpscare with her in the
corner is so fucked up.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
Like I just I was like, oh, man, like that
got me so bad. Yeah, this was my number four,
So this was one of the to me, this is
the A twenty four movie. Yes, I feel like this
put them on the map. This was another one of
those movies when it came out, insane word of mouth
and it was one of the few times where the
hype met my expectations and I I remember like sitting

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there watching it for the first time being shocked and
I was like, Wow, this movie is fucking like this
is going to be a classic, Like there's no doubt
about it. Like this this is going to be up there.
This is going to be mentioned alongside some of the greats,
and the performance is in it. I feel like you
said a lot of things that I wanted to say.
But Tony Kollette and it, I mean phenomenal, like incredible.

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The fact that she didn't get nominated or win an
Oscar for this wild fucking bullshit. Yeah, Gabriel Burne doing
some heavy lifting here, pretty good, Alex Wolf, the kid
who plays the Sun, really good as well. It's just
it's an awesome movie. I love the culty aspects of
it as well, and the fact that, like it seems
like it's going to be one type movie at the beginning,
It's gonna be a creepy kid movie. And then oh,
the creepy kid just got her fucking head knocked off
by a telephone call. I guess we're going in a

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different direction. Yeah, and then it just everything just gets
so much worse. But I mean, I would argue A
twenty four is not what they are today without Hereditary,
this movie rocks. And of all the big mainstream two
thousand's twenty first century horror movies, this I felt like
this was the one that I couldn't leave off. I
had to be on my list. Super scary. Is this

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the first no no.

Speaker 2 (02:11:09):
Under the Skin I think was oh yeah, oh I
want to That was one of the things that popped
up under the when I was looking at the listings.

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
It's a high up on a lot of lists. Yeah,
that's in my dad.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
We talked about it. It might have been it might
have been a draft. Does it do a whole episode
on it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:11:30):
I don't think we did.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
But Hereditariat Too is is a very good choice. Matthew
obviously so Hereditariat Too, which brings me to my number
Twoary to Hereditary at number two format, it was not
like aunt, yeah, so stupid my number. My number two

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is twenty eleven The Cabin in the Woods from Drew Goddard.
Kat Let's have a conversation about the Cabin in the Woods.
I mean, uh, go, you go first, you had to
like higher on your list.

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
I love Kevin in the Woods mostly be a fun
filled horror film with every villain or monster under the sun,
with every stereotypical person you want to be in a
horror movie doing all the stereotypical things you want them
to do. So it's kind of a very controlled atmosphere,

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mostly by the people that are controlling the environment, which
is pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
Like, I mean, the whole conceptist is awesome, Like it's
really cool. And the fact that like they do all
these bets and it's this whole.

Speaker 2 (02:12:49):
Like kind of image of like people that control other
people down below and like it's it's wild. And then
they have all these monsters from every sorts of the universe,
from monsters to fish to whatever. Like I mean, they
have everything. So I and I really like the Final Girl,

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and I like that they included Sigourney we were we
were in it too.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's an all time cameo
from Scrimm and Weaver.

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
It's jo.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
It's pretty great.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Classen up the joint at the end. She was great.
That was a really cool cameo at the end. But
obviously the fact that this kind of plays on all
the horror tropes and if you watch like the first
few minutes of this movie or the trailer for it,
you'd be like, this is just another student and even
the title obviously is poking fun at horror movies in general.
Does but no, I know. But then then it turns
into one of the most original horror films I think

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ever made, and it just turns everything completely on its head.
It's incredibly funny, which I think is also and I'm like,
this is this is a horror comedy. I think, yeah, absolutely,
and I think the cast and this is awesome. Richard
Jenkins and Bradley Whitford is the two watchers from t
Ye down down below, the two main guys there. They
carry the movie. They're awesome young role for Chris Hemsworth,

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but he plays like the stereotypical jock and even like
the stoner kid. I forget, I forget. He's awesome using
the the bong as a weapon at the end, like
really cool. And yeah, Sigourney Weaver are awesome at the end,
and I think it's an all time closing shot with
the you know, the implied end of the world from
the Old Gods coming up from underground destroying everything with
an all time needle drop from.

Speaker 4 (02:14:23):
Nine in nails And then it was kind of like
a thing at the end where like.

Speaker 3 (02:14:29):
Yeah, yep, the Old without telling.

Speaker 4 (02:14:32):
Me feel where and I will say everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
I don't think it needs it. But the fact that
they haven't made some sort of a sequel or spin
off with some of those other minds, how can I
not talk about the monster scene underground with all the
monsters kept in the cubes, Like how have they not
done some spin off? Or sequel about that. I'm glad
they haven't, but I feel like all of that it's
right for they should. I don't think they should either,
but I'm just surprised in today's.

Speaker 5 (02:14:58):
Like a like a mind Hunter but with monsters instead
of serial killers, Like they're in prison and they talked.

Speaker 1 (02:15:03):
Interviewing different monsters in the cubes. I actually like that.
It's good, good little show right there. Yeah, So Cabin
in the Woods at number two for me, I love
that movie. So Cabin in the Woods that means here
we go down to brass tacks, Baby one and number.

Speaker 5 (02:15:15):
One twenty twenty two's Damien Leon's Terrifier too.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
I did go with Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
I thought this was one of.

Speaker 5 (02:15:23):
My favorite movies I've seen in theaters in like fucking forever.
Like it is just so brutal, like they did such
a good like physical effects in this movie are so good,
and I know that they use a combination of practical
effects and cgi in that one scene, the bedroom scene
with the.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
Bleach and the salt, Yeah, that's a brutal care And
I you know, it was interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:15:43):
About that which I heard in an interview with Damian
Leon that he based that scene off of Jack the
Ripper's final kill. Really yeah, it was Mary Jane Kelly
who was basically he like took a long time in
a bedroom with her and just I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:15:59):
Know if he bleach and salt, but good god, that
scene is just so brutal.

Speaker 5 (02:16:04):
Like watching that in theater, that was yeah, because well,
so like, so this is why I can pick that movie.
And I understand why you can't because I Terrifier. I
had never heard of it or all. I was even
to you brought it up to me. So it wasn't
like this movie that I had found and I was like,
just watch this movie. It's find great here, just like, oh,
this is good. And then we saw that and I
was like, oh, what's good? And then you're like, want
to go see the second one. I was like all right, cool.

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Then I saw and I was like, this movie is
so fucking insane. Then I was like, I have to
just pick that movie because between that and The Clown
Cafe some of the best.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
Yeah that that was a mass shooter scene. Yeah controversial. Yeah, see,
I think Terrifier two is the better movie. I certainly
understand where both of you guys are coming from. I
thought Terrifier two was awesome and improved in the first
one in every way. And yeah that got the bleach,
the bleach, that room kills scene I cut brutally the best. Yeah,

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a lot of art, the clown on the countdown. I
love it. Terrifier too at numero for Andrew Catherine number one.
So my number one is I saw nice. I knew
that was gonna be your number one. I saw it
a very a very good choice. Who's who dressed James?

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
Oh yeah, he wins again. Damn.

Speaker 8 (02:17:17):
I think I just have I just love his style
and everything.

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Yeah, everything about Saw is amazing. I mean, and there's
a reason why there's.

Speaker 4 (02:17:27):
A million other sequels to it because it's so fucking good.
The first one is by far the best.

Speaker 2 (02:17:35):
Like, yeah, I mean, who would anyone who watched this
movie first time, second time, whatever, even if you know
the twist, if you know that it's coming, and you
just know that, like as you're going through all the motions,
you're like, oh shit, he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
Cut his foot off and it's gonna be so fucked Yeah,
like you.

Speaker 4 (02:17:53):
Know what's happening, and like every single bit and then
you're you have more anxiety like.

Speaker 1 (02:17:57):
Getting you're just waiting for I don't have them to
do it. Yeah, excuse me.

Speaker 4 (02:18:03):
So it's one of those things where, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
A movie I saw a long time ago that does
not age with me at all, at least the original,
I mean the other ones, like the sequels, Yes, Saw Too,
where Amanda falls in the ball pit of needles, like, yeah,
it's terrible, Like Donnie Waalberg gets like mashed by like
the ice things like on his head. Like, I mean,
there's a lot of different things in Saw that like

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you're like, oh wow, that hurts, Like, oh wow, that sticks.

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
With me, But like.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
The original is what everything stemmed from and it's awesome. Yeah,
Like that's that's I feel like a classic.

Speaker 1 (02:18:44):
That's one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:18:45):
That's gonna be one of those Halloween movies where you're
just like, that's a classic.

Speaker 1 (02:18:49):
Movie, undeniably class it has to be. And for a
long time that was like the marketing behind the Saft franchise.
I think the tagline was Halloween means Saw Yeah, which
is cranking out Saw movies every single October, and there's
so many of them, and some of the sequels happened
pretty good, but the original one is just it's awesome.
Now there is no Saw without seven, but different conversation.

(02:19:11):
Saw is awesome, great movie, great twist, great twist and
for a movie. Another one of those movies, and I
think that this makes it more effective. Another one of
those movies where there's a lot of violence implied. Like
you do see a good amount of stuff, but some
of the nastiest stuff they don't actually show you. It's
like what you actually can imagine in your mind. Like
the bear trap, the reverse bear trap going off. You

(02:19:31):
don't actually see that. No, you do see that, you
see it go off, but you don't see somebody's head.
Ex No, you do see the one, not in the
first one.

Speaker 8 (02:19:39):
Oh you do see the head.

Speaker 1 (02:19:42):
Ex not in the first one because she takes it
off and it goes well, no, because she.

Speaker 4 (02:19:46):
Doesn't, it doesn't actually go off. But there's another time.

Speaker 1 (02:19:49):
There is another time, but not in the first one. Yeah,
So I was like, no, no, there's it does exclude
start of the second one.

Speaker 6 (02:19:57):
When the other one that like claps shut and it's
like the like medieval yeah torture thing.

Speaker 1 (02:20:04):
Yeah. And that's one thing the sequels did was just.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
To remember all these graphic terrible things from Saw, like, yeah,
remember the ball pit, remember this thing, remember like eyeball.

Speaker 1 (02:20:17):
The needle pit has always stuck with me. That's such
a cool because that's the one thing that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:22):
You never want to have happening. Stab you, stabbing you, stabbing.

Speaker 8 (02:20:28):
Yeah, well, a lot of games, a lot of games.

Speaker 1 (02:20:30):
James one has Saw at number one for cat A
very good choice. Thank you. Thanks, Let's play a game,
all right, Matt, what's your number one? A smirk? Twenty
twenty three, Damien Rugna when Evil lurks.

Speaker 3 (02:20:46):
Oh okay, yeah, I had that. I remember I was.
You said that you'd be surprised by your number one.
I was like, I'm not terribly surprised because that movie's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
The dog scene. Yeah, the dogs scene, the dog scene.

Speaker 6 (02:21:00):
There's nothing I've seen that's as fucking hardcore as dude.

Speaker 1 (02:21:07):
This is the best movie in the last twenty five
years in my opinion.

Speaker 6 (02:21:11):
It puts a cinder block on the fucking gas pedal
and it does not stop. It's an original story.

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
It is just.

Speaker 6 (02:21:21):
Oh my god, dude, that dog scene really really really
got me bad when it happened, and then it gets worse.

Speaker 1 (02:21:28):
It somehow finds a way to get worse from there. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:21:34):
Man, I talked a lot about this when we did
our twenty twenty three drafts, so I'll be quick. But man,
it's just this movie is just fucking hardcore. Damien Rugna
is somebody that I have to just see his name
attached to it, and I'm going to watch the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:21:49):
Yeah, And that's especially because of terrifying as well.

Speaker 6 (02:21:53):
I was gonna say a movie was great too, and
I like to believe that these exist in the same universe.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
And yeah, no, this this movie was just balls to
the fucking wall.

Speaker 5 (02:22:05):
So yeah, one of the most interesting possession exorcism style
of stories, Like you turn it into like an extras
and then you get into like a village of the damned,
like calling them the rotten and dispose of their bodies
and it's.

Speaker 1 (02:22:19):
Just so But there's so many like rules, like you
can't just.

Speaker 5 (02:22:23):
Like you have to have like like you have to
have a hitman basically come like a with like a
mechanical fucking pool to do it. Like the whole scene
in the school when they're underneath the four boards is
one of the most discussing.

Speaker 1 (02:22:34):
They're covered in lime Yeah, just like Jesus Christ, the amount,
the amount of world building that he does in the
first like the beginning of this movie, like show like
showing you stuff and implying stuff and like giving you
an idea of what's going on in this world with
the rotten It's incredible. Like that's how you imply things
and tell a story and build a story structure, like
do world building instead of like without like putting on

(02:22:58):
a screen like it was. And yeah, the dog scene,
but I mean it's.

Speaker 5 (02:23:01):
You immediately found yourself in this world and it didn't
seem out of the order.

Speaker 1 (02:23:06):
The first time you see the rotten guy in the
bed at the beginning to when they go there with
disgusting rise, it's incredible. Yeah, the dog scene is the
most hardcore thing.

Speaker 5 (02:23:15):
Probably the best thing about that scene too, is you
see it coming, you know what's coming, waiting and I
know it's sitting and waiting and sitting and waiting, and
then it happens.

Speaker 6 (02:23:26):
And not only does it happen, but you you're showing it.
You get to see the dog. It's girl around under
the table and damn dude, like.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
Cool looking dog too, dog de Bordeaux. Yeah, that's the
name of the dog. Oh man, that's horrifying. That is
fucking scary.

Speaker 6 (02:23:47):
That happens, like the people's kids get attacked by dogs,
and that fucking happened.

Speaker 1 (02:23:51):
That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:23:52):
So my friend he was like, give me a movie
that you recommend those all right? And he has a
pit bull. He had a pit bull who bit another
child and they had to put it down. And I
knew this, but I didn't dawn on me. And I
was like, you should watch this movie. And I show
a movie and he's like, why the fuck. I was like,
you know what, I'm like, you're right, like your dad,
your dog got put down, right, because it's like attacked

(02:24:14):
the child.

Speaker 1 (02:24:15):
He's like yeah. I was like, I'm sorry, sorry, my
bad wild movie though, right he was, But then the
mom scooping the kid's brain out of his head. But
it's just like, god damn it, just like that movie
does not fucking stop. It just somehow keeps topping itself
as it goes on, and you're like, holy ship, dude,

(02:24:36):
Damion Rocks fucked yeah, that guy is fucking half Like yeah,
it's movie's out of control. It's a great movie too,
And I'm surprised nobody had Terrified. It was very close
for me. I think that's his best movie, and I
think Terrified.

Speaker 3 (02:24:47):
As a scary movie too.

Speaker 1 (02:24:49):
But a little kid at the table, Yeah, someone.

Speaker 5 (02:24:52):
Else like as soon as you mentioned earlier, like you'll
never guess what everyone, and I was like, is it
a farm film? Like yes, and then I guessed like
you're reversible and something else, and then I said I
wouldn't even I couldn't put that. And then when you
were like this, and I was like, oh, it's your
number one, you fucking It's like, yep, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:25:07):
Nice choice, Matt, Nice choice. All right. So my number
one two thousand and five movie from Neil Marshall, The Descent,
I knew those that was yep. Immediately, I knew this
was going to be my number one. I saw this
in theaters opening weekend in two thousand and five, and
this movie scared me on a visceral level that only

(02:25:29):
movies like Alien and Jaws have scared me from multiple things.
It's an awesome monster movie. It's an awesome story going
on around the monster aspect of the movie. And I
think that that's what makes for a really good monster movie,
is that when the story around it is good, and
then you add monsters into or creatures, it didn't even Yeah,

(02:25:51):
the whole premise of the claustrophobic angle of it was
a huge factor for me. So so like I'm like,
I'm getting goosebumps just talking about it now. But like
them crawling through those caves, I can't imagine anyone that
would go splunking in cave diving for fun because it
just seems like the opposite of for me.

Speaker 14 (02:26:14):
But it's just, yeah, who does that white woman? Apparently
this white woman that's true. I'm what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
I can do it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:27):
I will not do that, no, because I'm smarter than that.

Speaker 1 (02:26:32):
This is another one of another one of those movies
going it's not a go I'm not going that praise
on your fears, fear the dark, claustrophobia, and it also
has a lot of jump scares, but it also builds
dread throughout, so the jump scares are earned. There's an
all fucking time jump scare in this movie where the
characters get trapped in this cave and they're surrounded by

(02:26:53):
piles and piles of human bones and the only light
they have is the night vision pop up side view
thing on a camera that they have. Well they for
some reason they're not using the floor maybe they are,
but they're using flares throughout the movie, but in this
particular scene, they're not using the flair. They're using night

(02:27:13):
vision on this camera and the cameras spinning around. They're
yelling for help, and all of a sudden they cut
to one character and there's just this this guy standing
right behind one of the characters and that character gets
destroyed immediately. And then you see you see these characters
like if you rewatch this movie, you can see them
in the background of shots, and then they just creep

(02:27:34):
off ever so slightly. But that is your introduction to
these monsters. And they are just climbing on them. They're
just pierces.

Speaker 3 (02:27:46):
The time traveler.

Speaker 1 (02:27:47):
I know, I know exactly what you're saying. It's very similar.
They were like the same, like mold people. Yea, they are. Yeah,
And the only way to see this movie is with
the original intended ending from you know, Marshall, not the
and that was americanized with a happy ending that the
bleak ending is much much better. Yeah. She wakes back
up underground, Yeah, yeah exactly, and realizes that her escaping

(02:28:09):
was all a dream and she actually is getting about
to be ripped apart by all these creatures underground as
she should be. Yeah, another movie and you can you
can read into it however you want. But there's a
lot of overcoming trauma. Obviously. The main character is her
husband and a child and finding out that her best
her best friend was fucking around with her husband and
like it was just Yeah, so there's a lot going

(02:28:29):
on there. Then you add in the creatures, You add
in the scares, claustrophobia, the dark, the monsters, the gore,
an all time badass, final girl that comes full circle
and just starts fucking ship. I mean, I guess you
could technically call her.

Speaker 5 (02:28:44):
One, but I don't know, maybe not same monsters from
she is the last girl, the last girl we've seen
pandoram I have not seen similar monsters.

Speaker 1 (02:28:53):
In that Okay, Yeah, but it was only a matter
of time before I brought up the Ascent on my list,
and it happens to fall at number one.

Speaker 4 (02:29:00):
Oh that crazy, that's kind of crazy for you.

Speaker 1 (02:29:03):
No, that's on par Yeah, I feel like that was
he was ta.

Speaker 4 (02:29:10):
Do you have an honorable mention?

Speaker 1 (02:29:11):
Yeah? I have. We have some honorable mentions that we
want to talk about that now. Andrew, Yeah, I'm going
through mine real quick. You do that real quick too,
but I'm gonna do say mine.

Speaker 6 (02:29:20):
My honorable mentions are The House that Jack Built twenty eighteen.
Lars Montreo, That movie is fucking.

Speaker 3 (02:29:25):
That was in my top ten fishes.

Speaker 6 (02:29:27):
An Hour Trained to Bissan twenty sixteen, on saying, oh,
that's a Korean film, zombie film, very well made, heartbreaking heart.
That movie made me cry. That is a fucking sad ending.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
The Descent Saw Green Room twenty fifteen. Jeremy it was,
and then it wasn't. Okay, man, what a fucking movie.

Speaker 6 (02:29:54):
That is The Sadness twenty twenty one, Rob Jabbaz. That
movie is fucking out of control. But it just didn't
make the cut. And then martyrst me next.

Speaker 1 (02:30:04):
Go ahead as above, So below fourteen didn't make your list.

Speaker 4 (02:30:10):
Midsommar, No Midsmar. That was nineteen Terrifire. It follows Texas
Chainsaw Massacre two thousand and three.

Speaker 2 (02:30:25):
Then with Jessica Biale and the and everyone was like,
oh my good, you know, yeah I did not, yeah
I know, And then it was freighting for a dream,
Happy death Day.

Speaker 3 (02:30:34):
And uh, did you really have happy deathing?

Speaker 4 (02:30:38):
I did on my honorble mension.

Speaker 3 (02:30:42):
This is a wild pick it.

Speaker 4 (02:30:44):
Happy death Day.

Speaker 1 (02:30:45):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:30:48):
And yeah that's it.

Speaker 5 (02:30:50):
Yes, all right, you guys said a lot of them,
but I had let the right one in the House
of the Devil, the Ritual, Terrified Pearl and the Descent
Strange Darling.

Speaker 4 (02:31:01):
Also, ooh, Stranger.

Speaker 1 (02:31:04):
It was really good. I'm surprised it did Mickey List
as well. It was very close my honorable mentions. I
think this one told the line. This is also I
think I think it's the best movie to come out
in the twenty first century. Zodiac, David Fincher's Zodiac VHS
ninety four and VHS ninety nine. Absolutely love those movies.
Pulse also a very scary fucking movie The Substance, which
obviously we talked about last year in the Top ten

(02:31:26):
Alien Romulus, Godzilla minus one, the w n UF Halloween Special,
which I always always have to give a shout out.
Stop that Late Night with the Devil Hell House LLC.

Speaker 3 (02:31:36):
That was actually a very scary movie.

Speaker 1 (02:31:38):
Very scary.

Speaker 4 (02:31:39):
Are you getting paid to talk about that?

Speaker 1 (02:31:42):
I'm not getting paid I genuinely enjoy it. Very mainstream,
but it loved those movies Long Legs and Underwater movie
that I loved. Nobody had Session nine anywhere Session nine
ah see, like this is there's so many movies like
some of them had to get left off forgot about Sucher.
I didn't know, Wow, but I was cognitive all right.

Speaker 3 (02:32:05):
We got real quick favorite comedy from the last twenty
five years.

Speaker 15 (02:32:08):
Favorite, my favorite comedy, Oh No, I can't on the spot,
super bad for me, Tropic thunder to say the other
guys and get it over on. That's a solid Well,
why you're while you're old school, while you're looking super
trippers means.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
That that chicks grol Well, guys, we covered a lot
of ground. This is a long one. But doing podcasts
less frequently, this one was definitely deserving of more time.
I think so. I hope you like it. I think
of it. Well. We have spoke with a topic for
our next episode whenever we decide to do that, which
we will do. But thanks, as always for listening to

(02:32:53):
another episode of America's Hometown Horror. We certainly appreciate you
checking in with us. My name is Mike up and
joined by Andrew Matt and Catherine. Lady gentlemen, say good evening,
Good evening, see you in Hell Audio's new charge side,
See you later. Hey everyone, it's Mike from America's Hometown

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