June 4, 2025 • 31 mins
Turpin began her acting career in 1991 with her debut role in the film Daughters of the Dust,the first feature film directed by an African-American woman distributed theatrically in the United States.She has since appeared on television shows such as Criminal Minds.Turpin is also a member of the Cornerstone Theater Company.Outside of acting, Turpin has been a long-time yoga instructor
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hell love for everyone. And we're gonna go with the
Ladies Cell podcast today because I honestly I've done and
I thought Ladies and the writer's class. And since you
have I have four podcasts, you know, ladystel podcast needs one.
So we're gonna work with it this way. We're gonna
interviewing a podcaster what she produces her own podcast, so wow,
that makes her a producer.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, that was a little too much energy even for me.
Let me bring it down. Okay, now that that doesn't
even feel right. I only said two words, and that
does a feel right energy. It's not like volume listening
to your favorite song, you're like, no, no, no, I'm
gonna do a good job. I'm gonna keep it mellowtone.
By the end of that song, you're like and music blasting,
(00:46):
windows down and you're yelling, and it's oh, I've done
too much again. I can tell anyway. I don't known it.
By the way, oh my god, to introduce myself. Good
job to me, Good job to me, because you guys
know how often I don't remember to introduce myself. And
I wrote books. Yes there's a few of them. Oh
(01:08):
I wish you could see it like that, like, Okay,
you're gonna see it later. Our guest today has clappers,
so you don't even have to do a sign language
clap today. She actually has like the clapping thing that
does the it's so amazing. You'll see it later. You'll
see later back on track. I wrote books and some
of them are and I thought the Vorce was bad,
and I thought being grown up with cz if only
(01:28):
ire me a memoir on verse four and coffee, Widtle's
dead wet that Widdle's Web, and Widdle's debt, who almost
didn't make it through there almost made it with a debbit,
and that's just kind of cute. Maybe book four will
be Whittle's debit, but that seems like it'd be boring.
I think they might have to rob an ATM and
then that would just yeah, no, no, that's too much,
(01:51):
and there goes my brain again. Okay, we're straight. You
can find those six books wherever you find audio books.
And then if you watching us for a while, you
know what comes next. We have six books plus seventeen
more books, and you can find that on That was
the sign language section, just in case y'all weren't looking.
So it was more in books and the number seventeen.
(02:13):
You can find that at www dot nd I thought
ladies dot com. Unfortunately, today I have energy, which means
we're getting the car salesman hitch of my website. You
can find those books on www dot n I thought
lady dot com. Yeah that felt good. It's been a minute.
(02:36):
But you're not here to hear about me or my website,
which I could happily tell you about, although it doesn't
have much up on there. But you're not here to
hear about either. You're here to hear from our wonderful guests.
Wonderful guests. Would you like to introduce yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, I would. I not only have my clappers, but
I also have my pom poms today because we are
with and we're here to celebrate yay. I'm Andy Lyons
Haileen from Boston. I'm a four times founder and a
global startup mentor. But now now that I'm at the
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age of sixty seven, I am loud and proud about
being in my sixties and helping people not be caged
by their age with my new podcast, Don't Be Caged
by Your Age, where I help dissolve and shatter the
most socially acceptable prejudice out there agism, and I have
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delicious conversations with folks who have shattered those age related
expectations and help listeners dissolve their own indoctrinated, internalized ageous
beliefs that often start with I'm too old for that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Think up said that a few times. I'm too old
for that. I just said it today.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, it really isn't just because the clock is
struck midnight on a milestone elder age you can say
I'm too old for that. At being twenty too old
for that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, it was like after twenty five, I'm too old
for school. It's too much.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And you can see how when we get that feeling,
it stops us from pursuing and doing things that might
end up being one of the best things we've ever
done for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Granted I'm too old for anything or any challenge, it's
just like a challenge to do it, right. I feel
like as soon as you say it, you should be like,
and then I challenge myself to try it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why not, You're going to learn something and it could
be that you really hate doing.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That, Oh betides. I mean I feel like at that
age if you didn't like your job, you hated it,
but you showed up and you retired from it. You
might as well give it a shot of something you
actually wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh my gosh. Episode two, Mildred Mills. She we had
a book in her and so she went back to
school at the age of sixty eight and got her
master's in creative writing so she could write this book.
And then she learned that you have to have a
platform if you write a book. You know all about that, right,
and so she said, well, I guess I have to
do a podcast. What's podcasts? She created a podcast and boom,
(05:18):
she got her book published at the age of seventy two,
and now she's becoming a speaker because that's also what
she wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh my goodness, that's amazing. But you know, this is
the thing, though, When you're a speaker at the age
of seventy two, you have so much to tell. When
you're a young speaker, you don't. You have to stick
to your notes. You can't meander through life experiences because
they aren't there yet.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's really good point, very good point.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my gosh, makes any speech very entertaining because you
were like, you know, you'll tell it, and then you're like,
and then this one time, I'm sorry, all this wasn't
in the speech. It don't just take two minutes. And
then the next thing you know, everyone's with you the
edge of their seats taking notes and they remember what
you said. Now, enough talking about me. But you've done
a great job. By the way, I just want to
mention that you have done an amazing job of filtering
(06:07):
in and weaving together not only what I'm saying, but
segueing together your own podcast and remembering the episodes. I
think it's time for the clappers. Exactly. Well done. Okay,
so you said that you have been a founder of
multiple things, How of multiple startups? How have you found
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the energy in the time to do it? Well?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It all began in nineteen ninety two and I became unemployable,
which means, you know, I'm not hirable. So I had
to figure something out, and so I started doing consulting, right,
helping companies raise money, things like that, And then in
nineteen ninety eight, my husband and I founded a dot
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hom raised eight men million. We were doing amazing things.
We were online, on campus and on cable. If people
remember cable on two hundred and fifty college campuses around
the country. We were doing really early Facebook YouTube type
of content and engagement. It was really great, but we
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didn't make it past the fall of two thousand. It
just the rug got pulled out and all the dot
coms became dot bonds, as did we. And then I
went on and I founded a food business, a manufacturing
business that I had a great five year run. I
scaled it in less than two years nationally because I
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stayed off the grocery store shelves. That's right, listeners, you
don't have to launch a food product on the grocery
store shelf. If you are a minority owned business or
woman owned business, you can get in on some great
deals with food service. And so I was carried on
corporate campuses around the country, campuses, hospitals, inns. Great way
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to keep the margins, great way to build a love
of your food product. Unfortunately, in year five, Mother Nature
came in and wiped me out. And that's some of
the things they don't talk about when you're launching a business,
and that's those extenuating circumstances and between two of my
primary ingredients getting wiped out by mother nature, droughts, et cetera.
(08:26):
My manufacturing facility, and when you're producing food, you always
hire what's called a comba manufacturer. Their plant was a kid.
You not got hit by lightning and burnt to the ground.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You thought I thought I had that luck. Okay, you win.
It was a good resilience.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well you know what. And also it's how you framed
this circumstance.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So in both of those last two companies, even though
they didn't have the traditional mythological outcome that many startups
new businesses have, Oh exited or I went IPO, or
I became a unicorn billions. Yes, no, you have to
honor the success that you did have, repeat customers, something
that the customers wanted, creating great user experiences, all the
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successes along the way. You have to hold onto that memory,
not the at the end, I didn't make a pajillion
dollars and become world famous. You learn something. That's why
I'm always saying, O noona, you always win when you
launch a business, no matter what happens, because you're going
to tap into skill sets that you didn't even know
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you had. You're going to go into dark, crazy parts
of your body, your mind, everything and say what I
can do that, Yeah, you can't, And it just builds
you in such a way that if that business highly
likely doesn't work out, you're ready for the next one,
or you've got the best transferable skills that a company
will pay even more for that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Uh exactly. And I always say this to a friend
if you if you own the business and you know
that you it looks like it's going out and you
might have to get a corporation job, you should definitely
give yourself a title upgrade.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
One hundred percent on that. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What are my friends like, I'm senior project manager and
I'm like, you own half the business suite. You call
yourself COO right you're leaving, so be like I had
three years out of co and I mean, honestly, there
their skills, they're what they do is COO operation level
every day.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And the responsibility level, that responsibility level is right there,
the exact same thing that they would ask.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So give yourself the title upgrade, do two more years,
then go shopping.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, and and think about it this way too. When
you go back to a corporation, they're gonna have all
the assets that you couldn't afford to have Hello it
you need help.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
All the resources that you love. Oh my god, that's possible.
Feteria food because you know, when you work for yourself,
or you're growing or you're scaling, you actually have to
cook or order in either way it's out of your banking.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And I don't know about you, but when I turned
to the plants and the cats, I just don't get
the accolades I feel I deserve for the achievements I've
done that day.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So me and Jay today were actually just discussing that
about like how business does not fail, It just lends.
It kind of lends to success at leader spots and
life even in even in just your regular everyday life
or even in conversations the people were like, well, how
do you know that? And you're thinking, well, one day
I had to learn it, or my business would have died.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
To learn just in time learning.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yes, And you learn so much this way. So even
if you're sixty and you have a business out there,
believe me, you're not done learning. Actually, if you're sixty
and you're thinking about starting a business, please do that
just so you can ask your life experiences and give
them to your employees. Unless they're really boring, and then
please don't don't mention them.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Age does not prevent innovation or success. And the thing
to remember too as you age, the best thing you
can do to have a more active and agile aging
experience is to try new things. It's amazing and just
in the podcasting world. When I launched my first podcast
in twenty twelve, I mean I had someone hold in
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my hand. I was so nervous for the first year.
Once a week, seriously nervous, and then boom, that was it.
I could fly on my own, went onto Block radio,
on my own, etc. But we did not back then.
That's only ten years ago, twelve years ago, twelve years ago.
We did not have the tools that we have today. Today,
we have pod page, which is just ready for you
(12:43):
to create the website of your dreams with all the
bells and whistles you would ever want as a podcast host.
I just found out about Opus clips, where you upload
your video and the AI goes through and captures a
bunch of clips for social media, for TikTok, for ig
reels and puts in the capture Oh my god, and
it takes a landscape like we are right now in
(13:05):
a zoom and puts you on on top of the other. Seriously,
it's magic.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Thank you, thank you so much. And then there's cast Magic.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
My other favorite is cast Magic, which is it uploads
your audio and it does with AI. It creates ten
options for titles. It creates a bio, It creates introduction,
It creates a newsletter, It creates a LinkedIn post, It
creates a thread, it creates a Twitter x thread. It
creates a real for you with a transcript. It creates quotes,
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it creates questions.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I mean what Okay, so I would like you to
slowly list those resources again.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, I'm going to start with pod page. Pod pages
where you can go to have your podcast. You're still
going to have your audio uploaded to a buzz Sprout,
which is my favorite because it's just delicious and colorful
and it's like mail Chimp for podcasters. And that's what
shoots your audio out to Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, et cetera,
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all the places, and will also send it to your
pod page, quote website, and you have a bunch of
templates you can choose, or if you're a super cool
quote or you can go in there and make it
all fancy yourself. But what it puts in there as
well is a beautiful place to hold the episodes, places
for people to write reviews, leave reviews, rate your podcast,
places for guests to put all the information in. So
(14:33):
you've got that a blog. It just has everything. And
if you're interviewing people, one of my favorite thing is
that the guest puts all that information in and you
have a terms and conditions form that when they check
the box saying I agree to be on Andy's show,
it's saying and if anyone wants to share this on
sirius XM or with the world, she has my permission.
(14:56):
You know, you need those kind of legal dogs. So
that's why I love pod page because now you can
go in there and make any changes, choose your colors,
choose your everything, and it's not like having a WordPress
site where you have to work really hard. And then
I love and I just got introduced to Opus Opus Clips.
(15:16):
It's nine bucks a month, that's like Canva nine bucks
a month, and you're going to upload your video. It
not only takes your landscape video and turns it into
these portrait size clips with captions which you can fool
around with and make fun and however you want. It
also comes up with the best reach titles. So it's
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going to tell you this title is going to have
a ninety eight percent reach is going to be this
and it's a trending topic and like all the SEO
things you want, because folks, you can put all your
fancy manage to these stuff on social media. You don't
get downloads from social media. You get brand awareness, you
get people cheering wildly if people are like, oh, that
sounds so cool, But what really gets you downloads are
(16:00):
is SEO and PR And then my other one is
cast magic because now you know it's so much easier
to edit. So you're going to look at those ten
titles and go which one do I like? And then
you're going to fix it to the one you like.
But at least it got it started. Same with the newsletters,
same with a LinkedIn post, Same with the show notes
that you have to put up there, whether it's YouTube
(16:20):
or buzz brout or wherever you've got to write them. Well,
now you've got content to start with. And then as
you prompt and if you know how to use AI,
you know it's all about the prompt high AI or
high chat GBT. I'm Andy Lyons. I'm a podcaster in
her sixties and I need help with fill in the blank.
You know, you give it enough information prompting and you
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can say, don't be too chatty. And that's what cast
magic does. It'll re redo the segment that you're looking
at to be more serious or less formal or shorter whatever.
It's so friggin' cool. So that's cast c as T
M A G. I see castmagic dot io.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Thank you, Oh my goodness, and look at that. I
was sitting over here like I wonder what I could
do with this podcast. I just do it for kicks
and giggles and to meet people. I love meeting people.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's one of the best reasons to do a podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
One of the mythologies around podcasting is that you're going
to start a podcast and it's going to have all
these downloads and then you're going to monetize it. So
the reality is, unless you've got some really cool crime
show or something in a really cool category like that,
you have to be in podcasting for two reasons. One,
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you're using it for brand awareness and to create a
funnel for work to come your way. Or increase an
understanding of what you're doing in the world, and also
to create you know, a stickiness out there so that
you are going to have link backs and people are
going to be able to find you. But most often
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people get so upset I only have twenty downloads. My god,
if you had twenty people in a room, you'd be
thrilled to be able to talk about your work. Or
One of my favorite reasons for podcasting is, let's say
you're entering a new industry. You need to up your
game to be an expert. That eea T that algorithms use.
They like to see your experience, your expertise, your authority,
(18:26):
And I'll never remember what the T stands for, but anyway,
that's what they're looking for. So when you have a podcast,
you start interviewing experts in your industry while you build
up your own expertise, and you're having great conversations with people,
and you're building your network and your network is your
net worth. Wow, who wouldn't want to start a podcast? Right?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Everyone asked me, They were like, oh, why do you
have a podcast? And I was like, first of all,
I get to meet amazing people and I get to
hear them talk, and one of my I'm a writer,
so one of my favorite things in the world is
to hear a story. Tell me your story. And every
I mean they all come on and they tell me
a story. This is like the best job ever. And
then like I can talk to them later and be like, ooh,
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can you come back and tell me a whole new story,
or hey, we should collaborate or something. This is fun.
And then on top of it, I get experienced, so
I could either you know, back in the day when
you had to go to the library and get the encyclopedia,
so I hear about these days where dinosaurs room the earth.
My dad if seventy two tells me about them all
the time.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh yeah, I know. My kids always just say, oh, yeah,
that's back in what what eighteen thirty two? Mom, and dad, Yeah, okay,
knock it off.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And then you have to look up the information and
you're reading it, and honestly, reading a book is not
going to tell you as much as talking to an
expert and just be like, all right, here we go,
let me learn, Like I just learned all this cool
new stuff right.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And for anybody who's considering podcasting, think about this. So
buzz Spratt might be eighteen dollars a month, pod Page
which might be eighteen bucks a month. You got to
buy a mic. That's a one time purchase a good microphone.
So that's not for me.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You've run through three of them in two months.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So you're going to pay you know, about seventy bucks
for the mic. But let's think about the monthly recurring Okay,
that's the overhead you have to meet. So we're up
to thirty eight dollars. Cast Magic I think is twelve.
So now we're up to fifty dollars. And then so
I said buzz Brat, pid page, cast Magic. You could
also do descript, which is one of the best, most
wonderful editing tools. Do you know about descript?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well no, no, I don't edit so and I know
about Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Descript everybody is probably another maybe twelve bucks a month.
But what you do is you upload your audio and
it has the audio on the bottom, but it's all
the text and you go, oh, I want to take
out that whole paragraph. It automatically removes the audio that
paragraph from your audio. It's like makes editing ridiculously easy.
So now you're up to fifty sixty bucks a month. Right,
(20:56):
maybe there's some other bells and whistles. Canva for nine
bucks out bis.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yes, you got include Canva.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, people got to include Canva. And so now you
know you're still under one hundred bucks to have a podcast.
So if you said to yourself, well, if I wanted
to monetize that, I have to find a way to
at least break even. How am I going to earn
a hundred bucks to break even on this podcast? Now, sure,
you're going to have to learn how to onboard guests,
You're going have to take the time out for editing
(21:24):
and all of that, but still it might for each show.
Could you could have it streamlined into a five and
a half six hour commitment a week and you can
see the value out of that exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I always tell people like if you're like, oh, how
am I ever going to do a podcast? And well,
I was like, you know, they do have these podcasts
out there. They don't do great anymore, but they used to.
They were like little five or six minutes, six minute ones,
like just for the beginning of the day to be
like like for if you're writing and be like today,
this is my goal and this is what I learned
about my goal. Three sentences. That is your podcast for
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the day. Five minutes, not too much to edit, but
it's a podcast, and it's there. It's it's raising awareness
and it's great for TikTok because now it's just a
sacond bite.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, and you know who does that really well is
Charity young Blood. Oh my god. Her podcast is called
Life Questions and Lessons and it is five minutes.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Just enough to start your day, just or just enough
to end your day. And that's not a long commitment.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I told you we were having a seventeen minute commitment
and I am officially five minutes over or a little
bit more maybe.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Because we're having an Andy delicious conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
But when you have okay, everyone has to listen to
her podcast. Can you please, like just tell us about
the podcast that you have had so that we can
catch up with them, because her voice is amazing as
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well you can. If you're a startup founder a thing
about launching a business, you can always go onto YouTube
or Apple, Spotify wherever you find podcasts and listen to
the Startup Life Show with Andy Lyons and two hundred
plus episodes on YouTube. This turn fifty live stream episodes,
but on the podcast audio there's almost three hundred. From
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talking to diverse founders from all walks of life. It's amazing.
And then I had a mini series called Your Ink Story.
It was thirty episodes interviewing people who told me their
stories behind the body art they wear. And my goodness,
the tattoo industry is so phenomenalon. Why people put that
art on their body is so fascinating. It really connects
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us on a human level. But what meant so much
to me, especially as a woman in her sixties, with
all the anti aging and all the messaging out there
saying you're a horse, you need to go out to
pasture because we don't want to see you anymore because
you're old. You're old, we don't want you. You should be afraid.
This is not a good time for you. I really
felt called to talk about don't be caged by your age,
(23:55):
And that's my current podcast. I'm about to drop episode
six on April Where are we the ninth April eleventh,
and I'm talking to great people. If you are over
sixty and you've got a fun story about how you're
shattering agism and how you're flipping the script on what
to do after your sixty Please reach out to me.
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The one thing I have seen the most well known
is women who are modeling in their sixties and seventies
and eighties. Seriously, yes, so yeah, there's.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Just so oh. We own We own two magazines, and
so for twice for two years, the covers of our
magazines have been over sixty and they're two of our
best selling magazines. Like it's called the magazine is called
the twenty five hotest author's artists and advocates. Oh my goodness,
(24:53):
these women are courgeous. And then you'll be like, can
you believe she's like sixty something, and you're like, what, Well.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You've got to have Mildred J. Mill because her story
is just amazing. She was born in Alabama when the
third and seventeen children picking cotton with her grandmother, and
where she went in life and now she educated herself
along the way is one of the most fascinating, just
(25:20):
life affirming stories. And she has a beautiful voice that
you could listen to all day.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I bet you that helped her with her journey in life.
Voice get you places, especially on the telephone.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh she has a voice for radio, Oh for eddieways.
Then Mildred, you have to I'm going to say to
all her contact Yeah, you will love, love love her
and very engaging as well. But you know, if anybody
who is tuning in here and is thinking about podcasting
(25:59):
and is the New England area or not, I just
launched a community called New England Podcasters Group and we
have a Hybrid event every month the second Saturday of
every month, and it's where wannabes can come in and
learn from other more seasoned podcasters and get the community
and support they need. And I bring this up because sometimes,
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you know, we as humans crave community, even the introverts
need some community, and a lot of times you may
not find the community that you're seeking, which means you
got to create it yourself exactly. And so last month
that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm so excited for this. And you said hybrid, So
there's a zoom link or some sort of link.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's right. They can come zooming right in and join
us and we care deeply that they're showing.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Up because I will be there. Yay, I need to learn.
I want to thank you so much for being here
with us today and I'm I'm not gonna lie like
there are about seven other questions that I'm meant to ask,
and well, I do not want to take up anymore
your time because I mean, between founding and doing other podcasts,
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Can I do a shout out? Yes? Oh my gosh.
So do you know Trisha Hersey the NAP Ministry. This
is her rest deck. It is a phenomenal hashtag. Rest
is resistance. So having you know, lived and breathed the
hustle culture of the startup world, we need to do
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a better job. And these are her cards right here.
But if you follow her online the NAP Ministry, she
is phenomenal. So if I just even I'll take out
just one of her cards here and it reads. In
a culture focused on hyper productivity, it can feel uncomfortable
to sit and do nothing and let silence wash over you.
Doing nothing is a radical part of your lifelong rest practice.
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To be intentional about embodying disrupt systems of oppression, we
must practice rest. We must commit to it as a protest.
We must go slow, Go stare at the sky, Go
stare at your heart, y'all.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I know I'm the narcissist. So I'm gonna tell you
this works out because you know I'm gonna tell me.
I'm gonna tell a story about me. I love what
she just said there, because yesterday, after many years not
saying how many years since I started, I took a
day and I didn't answer one email. I sat in
my chair and I rested and thought, and I'm gonna
(28:41):
tell you this is a whole day. I feel like
I just started the year again. I feel like it's
January first and I'm starting fresh. Yes, I feel like
this is a mus buy. We need more advice like that, Like,
because I was sitting there like I should be doing it,
and I was like, I'm doing what I'm going to do.
You were being yas I'm andy. The wisdom that you bring,
(29:07):
that's all I have to say. And you don't look
like you're over sixty, So I feel like the wisdom
that you bring at fifty something.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Hey, I get the zoom beauty face.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
On, but I don't. But I'm sure I'm looking like
I'm fifties on their bed. No, Yeah, that is an
amazing pace. You gotta give me makeup tips in a minute.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
It's DNA it's absolutely DNA.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh oh, you know, one day we're gonna be like,
tell me all about your DNA girl. That's the one
I need in the future, like twenty sixty or something.
All right, all right, all right, See, like I told
Andy before we started that I was going to need
someone to get me back on track, and here I
am off track talking about futuristic DNA blocks. Can you
tell us where to find out more information about you
(29:50):
and how we can listen to these podcasts one more
time before we roll out.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Of here, Andy lyons A and d E L y
o ns follow me everywhere. Please say hi. I would
love to meet you and give you a virtual hug.
And of course the podcast you can hear anywhere. You
can even ask Alexa to play it. It's called Don't
Be Caged by Your Age.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Awesome, Thank you so much. I tell you do roar
like a line in your spaces. I thought of it
and I was like, no, I'm not gonna use it
because it was too bad. It was too bad of
a ton of words.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I am I'm also a Leo Rory is very good.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So I'm gonna go ahead and wrap it up for
me over here. I'm Wilnona and I'm one of the
end I Thought Ladies. You can check out everything that
your ladies are up to at www dot and I
thought ladies dot com. And while you're there, you can
go down to the middle of the page and see
the three charities that we proudly support. We ask that
you take the time out to actually support them as well.
That does not mean you have to give money. You
can give time in or knowledge. As Indy has approved today,
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there's a lot of value in knowledge you can give them.
You can support them that way. We thank you in
advance for that, and remember that wisdom is all around
you if you're open to finding it and accepting it.
So peace, Love you guys from Willona and the Missing Jade.
Oh yeah, thanks for listening.
Hell love for everyone. And we're gonna go with the
Ladies Cell podcast today because I honestly I've done and
I thought Ladies and the writer's class. And since you
have I have four podcasts, you know, ladystel podcast needs one.
So we're gonna work with it this way. We're gonna
interviewing a podcaster what she produces her own podcast, so wow,
that makes her a producer.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, that was a little too much energy even for me.
Let me bring it down. Okay, now that that doesn't
even feel right. I only said two words, and that
does a feel right energy. It's not like volume listening
to your favorite song, you're like, no, no, no, I'm
gonna do a good job. I'm gonna keep it mellowtone.
By the end of that song, you're like and music blasting,
(00:46):
windows down and you're yelling, and it's oh, I've done
too much again. I can tell anyway. I don't known it.
By the way, oh my god, to introduce myself. Good
job to me, Good job to me, because you guys
know how often I don't remember to introduce myself. And
I wrote books. Yes there's a few of them. Oh
(01:08):
I wish you could see it like that, like, Okay,
you're gonna see it later. Our guest today has clappers,
so you don't even have to do a sign language
clap today. She actually has like the clapping thing that
does the it's so amazing. You'll see it later. You'll
see later back on track. I wrote books and some
of them are and I thought the Vorce was bad,
and I thought being grown up with cz if only
(01:28):
ire me a memoir on verse four and coffee, Widtle's
dead wet that Widdle's Web, and Widdle's debt, who almost
didn't make it through there almost made it with a debbit,
and that's just kind of cute. Maybe book four will
be Whittle's debit, but that seems like it'd be boring.
I think they might have to rob an ATM and
then that would just yeah, no, no, that's too much,
(01:51):
and there goes my brain again. Okay, we're straight. You
can find those six books wherever you find audio books.
And then if you watching us for a while, you
know what comes next. We have six books plus seventeen
more books, and you can find that on That was
the sign language section, just in case y'all weren't looking.
So it was more in books and the number seventeen.
(02:13):
You can find that at www dot nd I thought
ladies dot com. Unfortunately, today I have energy, which means
we're getting the car salesman hitch of my website. You
can find those books on www dot n I thought
lady dot com. Yeah that felt good. It's been a minute.
(02:36):
But you're not here to hear about me or my website,
which I could happily tell you about, although it doesn't
have much up on there. But you're not here to
hear about either. You're here to hear from our wonderful guests.
Wonderful guests. Would you like to introduce yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, I would. I not only have my clappers, but
I also have my pom poms today because we are
with and we're here to celebrate yay. I'm Andy Lyons
Haileen from Boston. I'm a four times founder and a
global startup mentor. But now now that I'm at the
(03:10):
age of sixty seven, I am loud and proud about
being in my sixties and helping people not be caged
by their age with my new podcast, Don't Be Caged
by Your Age, where I help dissolve and shatter the
most socially acceptable prejudice out there agism, and I have
(03:35):
delicious conversations with folks who have shattered those age related
expectations and help listeners dissolve their own indoctrinated, internalized ageous
beliefs that often start with I'm too old for that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Think up said that a few times. I'm too old
for that. I just said it today.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, it really isn't just because the clock is
struck midnight on a milestone elder age you can say
I'm too old for that. At being twenty too old
for that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, it was like after twenty five, I'm too old
for school. It's too much.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And you can see how when we get that feeling,
it stops us from pursuing and doing things that might
end up being one of the best things we've ever
done for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Granted I'm too old for anything or any challenge, it's
just like a challenge to do it, right. I feel
like as soon as you say it, you should be like,
and then I challenge myself to try it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why not, You're going to learn something and it could
be that you really hate doing.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That, Oh betides. I mean I feel like at that
age if you didn't like your job, you hated it,
but you showed up and you retired from it. You
might as well give it a shot of something you
actually wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh my gosh. Episode two, Mildred Mills. She we had
a book in her and so she went back to
school at the age of sixty eight and got her
master's in creative writing so she could write this book.
And then she learned that you have to have a
platform if you write a book. You know all about that, right,
and so she said, well, I guess I have to
do a podcast. What's podcasts? She created a podcast and boom,
(05:18):
she got her book published at the age of seventy two,
and now she's becoming a speaker because that's also what
she wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh my goodness, that's amazing. But you know, this is
the thing, though, When you're a speaker at the age
of seventy two, you have so much to tell. When
you're a young speaker, you don't. You have to stick
to your notes. You can't meander through life experiences because
they aren't there yet.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's really good point, very good point.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my gosh, makes any speech very entertaining because you
were like, you know, you'll tell it, and then you're like,
and then this one time, I'm sorry, all this wasn't
in the speech. It don't just take two minutes. And
then the next thing you know, everyone's with you the
edge of their seats taking notes and they remember what
you said. Now, enough talking about me. But you've done
a great job. By the way, I just want to
mention that you have done an amazing job of filtering
(06:07):
in and weaving together not only what I'm saying, but
segueing together your own podcast and remembering the episodes. I
think it's time for the clappers. Exactly. Well done. Okay,
so you said that you have been a founder of
multiple things, How of multiple startups? How have you found
(06:32):
the energy in the time to do it? Well?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It all began in nineteen ninety two and I became unemployable,
which means, you know, I'm not hirable. So I had
to figure something out, and so I started doing consulting, right,
helping companies raise money, things like that, And then in
nineteen ninety eight, my husband and I founded a dot
(06:57):
hom raised eight men million. We were doing amazing things.
We were online, on campus and on cable. If people
remember cable on two hundred and fifty college campuses around
the country. We were doing really early Facebook YouTube type
of content and engagement. It was really great, but we
(07:17):
didn't make it past the fall of two thousand. It
just the rug got pulled out and all the dot
coms became dot bonds, as did we. And then I
went on and I founded a food business, a manufacturing
business that I had a great five year run. I
scaled it in less than two years nationally because I
(07:40):
stayed off the grocery store shelves. That's right, listeners, you
don't have to launch a food product on the grocery
store shelf. If you are a minority owned business or
woman owned business, you can get in on some great
deals with food service. And so I was carried on
corporate campuses around the country, campuses, hospitals, inns. Great way
(08:03):
to keep the margins, great way to build a love
of your food product. Unfortunately, in year five, Mother Nature
came in and wiped me out. And that's some of
the things they don't talk about when you're launching a business,
and that's those extenuating circumstances and between two of my
primary ingredients getting wiped out by mother nature, droughts, et cetera.
(08:26):
My manufacturing facility, and when you're producing food, you always
hire what's called a comba manufacturer. Their plant was a kid.
You not got hit by lightning and burnt to the ground.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You thought I thought I had that luck. Okay, you win.
It was a good resilience.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well you know what. And also it's how you framed
this circumstance.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So in both of those last two companies, even though
they didn't have the traditional mythological outcome that many startups
new businesses have, Oh exited or I went IPO, or
I became a unicorn billions. Yes, no, you have to
honor the success that you did have, repeat customers, something
that the customers wanted, creating great user experiences, all the
(09:14):
successes along the way. You have to hold onto that memory,
not the at the end, I didn't make a pajillion
dollars and become world famous. You learn something. That's why
I'm always saying, O noona, you always win when you
launch a business, no matter what happens, because you're going
to tap into skill sets that you didn't even know
(09:35):
you had. You're going to go into dark, crazy parts
of your body, your mind, everything and say what I
can do that, Yeah, you can't, And it just builds
you in such a way that if that business highly
likely doesn't work out, you're ready for the next one,
or you've got the best transferable skills that a company
will pay even more for that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Uh exactly. And I always say this to a friend
if you if you own the business and you know
that you it looks like it's going out and you
might have to get a corporation job, you should definitely
give yourself a title upgrade.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
One hundred percent on that. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What are my friends like, I'm senior project manager and
I'm like, you own half the business suite. You call
yourself COO right you're leaving, so be like I had
three years out of co and I mean, honestly, there
their skills, they're what they do is COO operation level
every day.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And the responsibility level, that responsibility level is right there,
the exact same thing that they would ask.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So give yourself the title upgrade, do two more years,
then go shopping.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, and and think about it this way too. When
you go back to a corporation, they're gonna have all
the assets that you couldn't afford to have Hello it
you need help.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
All the resources that you love. Oh my god, that's possible.
Feteria food because you know, when you work for yourself,
or you're growing or you're scaling, you actually have to
cook or order in either way it's out of your banking.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And I don't know about you, but when I turned
to the plants and the cats, I just don't get
the accolades I feel I deserve for the achievements I've
done that day.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So me and Jay today were actually just discussing that
about like how business does not fail, It just lends.
It kind of lends to success at leader spots and
life even in even in just your regular everyday life
or even in conversations the people were like, well, how
do you know that? And you're thinking, well, one day
I had to learn it, or my business would have died.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
To learn just in time learning.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yes, And you learn so much this way. So even
if you're sixty and you have a business out there,
believe me, you're not done learning. Actually, if you're sixty
and you're thinking about starting a business, please do that
just so you can ask your life experiences and give
them to your employees. Unless they're really boring, and then
please don't don't mention them.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Age does not prevent innovation or success. And the thing
to remember too as you age, the best thing you
can do to have a more active and agile aging
experience is to try new things. It's amazing and just
in the podcasting world. When I launched my first podcast
in twenty twelve, I mean I had someone hold in
(12:22):
my hand. I was so nervous for the first year.
Once a week, seriously nervous, and then boom, that was it.
I could fly on my own, went onto Block radio,
on my own, etc. But we did not back then.
That's only ten years ago, twelve years ago, twelve years ago.
We did not have the tools that we have today. Today,
we have pod page, which is just ready for you
(12:43):
to create the website of your dreams with all the
bells and whistles you would ever want as a podcast host.
I just found out about Opus clips, where you upload
your video and the AI goes through and captures a
bunch of clips for social media, for TikTok, for ig
reels and puts in the capture Oh my god, and
it takes a landscape like we are right now in
(13:05):
a zoom and puts you on on top of the other. Seriously,
it's magic.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Thank you, thank you so much. And then there's cast Magic.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
My other favorite is cast Magic, which is it uploads
your audio and it does with AI. It creates ten
options for titles. It creates a bio, It creates introduction,
It creates a newsletter, It creates a LinkedIn post, It
creates a thread, it creates a Twitter x thread. It
creates a real for you with a transcript. It creates quotes,
(13:39):
it creates questions.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I mean what Okay, so I would like you to
slowly list those resources again.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, I'm going to start with pod page. Pod pages
where you can go to have your podcast. You're still
going to have your audio uploaded to a buzz Sprout,
which is my favorite because it's just delicious and colorful
and it's like mail Chimp for podcasters. And that's what
shoots your audio out to Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, et cetera,
(14:13):
all the places, and will also send it to your
pod page, quote website, and you have a bunch of
templates you can choose, or if you're a super cool
quote or you can go in there and make it
all fancy yourself. But what it puts in there as
well is a beautiful place to hold the episodes, places
for people to write reviews, leave reviews, rate your podcast,
places for guests to put all the information in. So
(14:33):
you've got that a blog. It just has everything. And
if you're interviewing people, one of my favorite thing is
that the guest puts all that information in and you
have a terms and conditions form that when they check
the box saying I agree to be on Andy's show,
it's saying and if anyone wants to share this on
sirius XM or with the world, she has my permission.
(14:56):
You know, you need those kind of legal dogs. So
that's why I love pod page because now you can
go in there and make any changes, choose your colors,
choose your everything, and it's not like having a WordPress
site where you have to work really hard. And then
I love and I just got introduced to Opus Opus Clips.
(15:16):
It's nine bucks a month, that's like Canva nine bucks
a month, and you're going to upload your video. It
not only takes your landscape video and turns it into
these portrait size clips with captions which you can fool
around with and make fun and however you want. It
also comes up with the best reach titles. So it's
(15:37):
going to tell you this title is going to have
a ninety eight percent reach is going to be this
and it's a trending topic and like all the SEO
things you want, because folks, you can put all your
fancy manage to these stuff on social media. You don't
get downloads from social media. You get brand awareness, you
get people cheering wildly if people are like, oh, that
sounds so cool, But what really gets you downloads are
(16:00):
is SEO and PR And then my other one is
cast magic because now you know it's so much easier
to edit. So you're going to look at those ten
titles and go which one do I like? And then
you're going to fix it to the one you like.
But at least it got it started. Same with the newsletters,
same with a LinkedIn post, Same with the show notes
that you have to put up there, whether it's YouTube
(16:20):
or buzz brout or wherever you've got to write them. Well,
now you've got content to start with. And then as
you prompt and if you know how to use AI,
you know it's all about the prompt high AI or
high chat GBT. I'm Andy Lyons. I'm a podcaster in
her sixties and I need help with fill in the blank.
You know, you give it enough information prompting and you
(16:42):
can say, don't be too chatty. And that's what cast
magic does. It'll re redo the segment that you're looking
at to be more serious or less formal or shorter whatever.
It's so friggin' cool. So that's cast c as T
M A G. I see castmagic dot io.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Thank you, Oh my goodness, and look at that. I
was sitting over here like I wonder what I could
do with this podcast. I just do it for kicks
and giggles and to meet people. I love meeting people.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's one of the best reasons to do a podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
One of the mythologies around podcasting is that you're going
to start a podcast and it's going to have all
these downloads and then you're going to monetize it. So
the reality is, unless you've got some really cool crime
show or something in a really cool category like that,
you have to be in podcasting for two reasons. One,
(17:42):
you're using it for brand awareness and to create a
funnel for work to come your way. Or increase an
understanding of what you're doing in the world, and also
to create you know, a stickiness out there so that
you are going to have link backs and people are
going to be able to find you. But most often
(18:04):
people get so upset I only have twenty downloads. My god,
if you had twenty people in a room, you'd be
thrilled to be able to talk about your work. Or
One of my favorite reasons for podcasting is, let's say
you're entering a new industry. You need to up your
game to be an expert. That eea T that algorithms use.
They like to see your experience, your expertise, your authority,
(18:26):
And I'll never remember what the T stands for, but anyway,
that's what they're looking for. So when you have a podcast,
you start interviewing experts in your industry while you build
up your own expertise, and you're having great conversations with people,
and you're building your network and your network is your
net worth. Wow, who wouldn't want to start a podcast? Right?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Everyone asked me, They were like, oh, why do you
have a podcast? And I was like, first of all,
I get to meet amazing people and I get to
hear them talk, and one of my I'm a writer,
so one of my favorite things in the world is
to hear a story. Tell me your story. And every
I mean they all come on and they tell me
a story. This is like the best job ever. And
then like I can talk to them later and be like, ooh,
(19:07):
can you come back and tell me a whole new story,
or hey, we should collaborate or something. This is fun.
And then on top of it, I get experienced, so
I could either you know, back in the day when
you had to go to the library and get the encyclopedia,
so I hear about these days where dinosaurs room the earth.
My dad if seventy two tells me about them all
the time.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh yeah, I know. My kids always just say, oh, yeah,
that's back in what what eighteen thirty two? Mom, and dad, Yeah, okay,
knock it off.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And then you have to look up the information and
you're reading it, and honestly, reading a book is not
going to tell you as much as talking to an
expert and just be like, all right, here we go,
let me learn, Like I just learned all this cool
new stuff right.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And for anybody who's considering podcasting, think about this. So
buzz Spratt might be eighteen dollars a month, pod Page
which might be eighteen bucks a month. You got to
buy a mic. That's a one time purchase a good microphone.
So that's not for me.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You've run through three of them in two months.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So you're going to pay you know, about seventy bucks
for the mic. But let's think about the monthly recurring Okay,
that's the overhead you have to meet. So we're up
to thirty eight dollars. Cast Magic I think is twelve.
So now we're up to fifty dollars. And then so
I said buzz Brat, pid page, cast Magic. You could
also do descript, which is one of the best, most
wonderful editing tools. Do you know about descript?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well no, no, I don't edit so and I know
about Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Descript everybody is probably another maybe twelve bucks a month.
But what you do is you upload your audio and
it has the audio on the bottom, but it's all
the text and you go, oh, I want to take
out that whole paragraph. It automatically removes the audio that
paragraph from your audio. It's like makes editing ridiculously easy.
So now you're up to fifty sixty bucks a month. Right,
(20:56):
maybe there's some other bells and whistles. Canva for nine
bucks out bis.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yes, you got include Canva.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, people got to include Canva. And so now you
know you're still under one hundred bucks to have a podcast.
So if you said to yourself, well, if I wanted
to monetize that, I have to find a way to
at least break even. How am I going to earn
a hundred bucks to break even on this podcast? Now, sure,
you're going to have to learn how to onboard guests,
You're going have to take the time out for editing
(21:24):
and all of that, but still it might for each show.
Could you could have it streamlined into a five and
a half six hour commitment a week and you can
see the value out of that exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I always tell people like if you're like, oh, how
am I ever going to do a podcast? And well,
I was like, you know, they do have these podcasts
out there. They don't do great anymore, but they used to.
They were like little five or six minutes, six minute ones,
like just for the beginning of the day to be
like like for if you're writing and be like today,
this is my goal and this is what I learned
about my goal. Three sentences. That is your podcast for
(21:59):
the day. Five minutes, not too much to edit, but
it's a podcast, and it's there. It's it's raising awareness
and it's great for TikTok because now it's just a
sacond bite.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, and you know who does that really well is
Charity young Blood. Oh my god. Her podcast is called
Life Questions and Lessons and it is five minutes.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Just enough to start your day, just or just enough
to end your day. And that's not a long commitment.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I told you we were having a seventeen minute commitment
and I am officially five minutes over or a little
bit more maybe.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Because we're having an Andy delicious conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
But when you have okay, everyone has to listen to
her podcast. Can you please, like just tell us about
the podcast that you have had so that we can
catch up with them, because her voice is amazing as
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well you can. If you're a startup founder a thing
about launching a business, you can always go onto YouTube
or Apple, Spotify wherever you find podcasts and listen to
the Startup Life Show with Andy Lyons and two hundred
plus episodes on YouTube. This turn fifty live stream episodes,
but on the podcast audio there's almost three hundred. From
(23:09):
talking to diverse founders from all walks of life. It's amazing.
And then I had a mini series called Your Ink Story.
It was thirty episodes interviewing people who told me their
stories behind the body art they wear. And my goodness,
the tattoo industry is so phenomenalon. Why people put that
art on their body is so fascinating. It really connects
(23:31):
us on a human level. But what meant so much
to me, especially as a woman in her sixties, with
all the anti aging and all the messaging out there
saying you're a horse, you need to go out to
pasture because we don't want to see you anymore because
you're old. You're old, we don't want you. You should be afraid.
This is not a good time for you. I really
felt called to talk about don't be caged by your age,
(23:55):
And that's my current podcast. I'm about to drop episode
six on April Where are we the ninth April eleventh,
and I'm talking to great people. If you are over
sixty and you've got a fun story about how you're
shattering agism and how you're flipping the script on what
to do after your sixty Please reach out to me.
(24:18):
The one thing I have seen the most well known
is women who are modeling in their sixties and seventies
and eighties. Seriously, yes, so yeah, there's.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Just so oh. We own We own two magazines, and
so for twice for two years, the covers of our
magazines have been over sixty and they're two of our
best selling magazines. Like it's called the magazine is called
the twenty five hotest author's artists and advocates. Oh my goodness,
(24:53):
these women are courgeous. And then you'll be like, can
you believe she's like sixty something, and you're like, what, Well.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You've got to have Mildred J. Mill because her story
is just amazing. She was born in Alabama when the
third and seventeen children picking cotton with her grandmother, and
where she went in life and now she educated herself
along the way is one of the most fascinating, just
(25:20):
life affirming stories. And she has a beautiful voice that
you could listen to all day.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I bet you that helped her with her journey in life.
Voice get you places, especially on the telephone.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh she has a voice for radio, Oh for eddieways.
Then Mildred, you have to I'm going to say to
all her contact Yeah, you will love, love love her
and very engaging as well. But you know, if anybody
who is tuning in here and is thinking about podcasting
(25:59):
and is the New England area or not, I just
launched a community called New England Podcasters Group and we
have a Hybrid event every month the second Saturday of
every month, and it's where wannabes can come in and
learn from other more seasoned podcasters and get the community
and support they need. And I bring this up because sometimes,
(26:22):
you know, we as humans crave community, even the introverts
need some community, and a lot of times you may
not find the community that you're seeking, which means you
got to create it yourself exactly. And so last month
that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm so excited for this. And you said hybrid, So
there's a zoom link or some sort of link.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's right. They can come zooming right in and join
us and we care deeply that they're showing.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Up because I will be there. Yay, I need to learn.
I want to thank you so much for being here
with us today and I'm I'm not gonna lie like
there are about seven other questions that I'm meant to ask,
and well, I do not want to take up anymore
your time because I mean, between founding and doing other podcasts,
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Can I do a shout out? Yes? Oh my gosh.
So do you know Trisha Hersey the NAP Ministry. This
is her rest deck. It is a phenomenal hashtag. Rest
is resistance. So having you know, lived and breathed the
hustle culture of the startup world, we need to do
(27:35):
a better job. And these are her cards right here.
But if you follow her online the NAP Ministry, she
is phenomenal. So if I just even I'll take out
just one of her cards here and it reads. In
a culture focused on hyper productivity, it can feel uncomfortable
to sit and do nothing and let silence wash over you.
Doing nothing is a radical part of your lifelong rest practice.
(27:57):
To be intentional about embodying disrupt systems of oppression, we
must practice rest. We must commit to it as a protest.
We must go slow, Go stare at the sky, Go
stare at your heart, y'all.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I know I'm the narcissist. So I'm gonna tell you
this works out because you know I'm gonna tell me.
I'm gonna tell a story about me. I love what
she just said there, because yesterday, after many years not
saying how many years since I started, I took a
day and I didn't answer one email. I sat in
my chair and I rested and thought, and I'm gonna
(28:41):
tell you this is a whole day. I feel like
I just started the year again. I feel like it's
January first and I'm starting fresh. Yes, I feel like
this is a mus buy. We need more advice like that, Like,
because I was sitting there like I should be doing it,
and I was like, I'm doing what I'm going to do.
You were being yas I'm andy. The wisdom that you bring,
(29:07):
that's all I have to say. And you don't look
like you're over sixty, So I feel like the wisdom
that you bring at fifty something.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Hey, I get the zoom beauty face.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
On, but I don't. But I'm sure I'm looking like
I'm fifties on their bed. No, Yeah, that is an
amazing pace. You gotta give me makeup tips in a minute.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
It's DNA it's absolutely DNA.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh oh, you know, one day we're gonna be like,
tell me all about your DNA girl. That's the one
I need in the future, like twenty sixty or something.
All right, all right, all right, See, like I told
Andy before we started that I was going to need
someone to get me back on track, and here I
am off track talking about futuristic DNA blocks. Can you
tell us where to find out more information about you
(29:50):
and how we can listen to these podcasts one more
time before we roll out.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Of here, Andy lyons A and d E L y
o ns follow me everywhere. Please say hi. I would
love to meet you and give you a virtual hug.
And of course the podcast you can hear anywhere. You
can even ask Alexa to play it. It's called Don't
Be Caged by Your Age.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Awesome, Thank you so much. I tell you do roar
like a line in your spaces. I thought of it
and I was like, no, I'm not gonna use it
because it was too bad. It was too bad of
a ton of words.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I am I'm also a Leo Rory is very good.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So I'm gonna go ahead and wrap it up for
me over here. I'm Wilnona and I'm one of the
end I Thought Ladies. You can check out everything that
your ladies are up to at www dot and I
thought ladies dot com. And while you're there, you can
go down to the middle of the page and see
the three charities that we proudly support. We ask that
you take the time out to actually support them as well.
That does not mean you have to give money. You
can give time in or knowledge. As Indy has approved today,
(30:57):
there's a lot of value in knowledge you can give them.
You can support them that way. We thank you in
advance for that, and remember that wisdom is all around
you if you're open to finding it and accepting it.
So peace, Love you guys from Willona and the Missing Jade.
Oh yeah, thanks for listening.
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