Ep. 048 - UK Race Riots & The Far Right Disinfo Network

The abject failures of neo-liberalism have blasted an opening through the fabric of society that fascists are trying to fill. An investigation by Byline Times has found a toxic amalgamation of dark money, tech platforms, virtually untouchable hard right-wing billionaires, and far right criminal gangs that are all behind the race riots that occurred over the last few weeks in Britain, and are fueling the far right movement globally.

SHOW NOTES:

As thousands turn out against the far right, were the planned riots actually a red herring? https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2024/08/08/race-riots-7-august-uk/

On Saturday the country stood up to racism – but was it right, and is it enough? https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2024/08/12/stand-up-to-racism-part-one

Exposing the Real UK Race Riot Instigators: The Key Players and Transatlantic Network Around Tommy Robinson https://bylinetimes.com/2024/08/08/exposing-the-real-uk-race-riot-instigators-the-key-players-and-transatlantic-network-around-tommy-robinson/

A new Home Office report admits grooming gangs are not a ‘Muslim problem' https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/19/home-office-report-grooming-gangs-not-muslim



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Britain has experienced the worst race riots in living memory

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in recent weeks, targeted mostly against Muslims, mosques, asylum seekers,
and just brown people. Generally, racist Brits have destroyed shops, libraries,
cars and hotels as they've systematically sought out ethnic minorities
to harass, intimidate, and inflict violence against. For more than
two weeks, mobs of angry racists tour through British streets,

(02:42):
beginning in the maritime town of Southport, when dumb racists
hurled bricks and petrol bombs at a mosque as terrified
worshipers hid inside. About one hundred racist fuckwits tried to
break down the front door of the mosque, and when
they failed, they turned their anger on the police, injuring
about fifty officers and setting fire to a patrol van.

(03:06):
Since then, more than a dozen anti immigrant demonstrations have
targeted hotels housing asylum seekers, at least one of which
they tried to burn down, community centers, libraries, and mosques
across the UK. More than four hundred people have been
arrested for their involvement, and some have already been handed
jail terms. On eight August, we woke up to the

(03:28):
hashtag far right fail trending high on social media because
thousands of anti fascist counter protesters finally forced a no
show from the fascists. The turnout against these racist chut
fucks was incredibly encouraging. Aside from a few straggling hogs,
for the first time in weeks, the far right were
nowhere to be seen. On ten August, thousands of people

(03:51):
across the UK took to the streets, including five thousand
who protested outside the UK Reform Parties headquarters. The Reform Party,
mind you, is the part that the racist mob is
aligned with, or most aligned with. It is a vile,
froth mouthed group of nasty anti Semites. In June, the
party defended one of its candidates who said out loud

(04:13):
that Britain should have made a deal with Adolph Hitler
during World War Two, with the Party spokesperson Ian Gribbin,
saying that this statement was quote probably true, So that
gives you a censor. It should give you a sense
of where these people align, which is with Adolph Hitler.
These thousands of anti fascists marched from Reforms HQ to

(04:37):
Trofflegor Square in central London, which had been previously occupied
by white supremacists. The gathering of solidarity against Islamophobia and
hatred towards refugees was organized by Stand Up to Racism
in response to racist scum and their attacks on innocent people.
Nikola Jeffrey said this in her article for The Canary Quote.

(04:59):
Wearing our stand Up to Racism t shirts, me and
Steve Topple traveled to the event in Brixton via Uber.
The driver that took us asked when we got into
his car what we were standing up for, not seeing
our T shirts properly, We both responded racism. The Uber
driver then turned around, looked at us properly and said
thank you so much, which was really sad to hear

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and quite disgusting that he felt he even had to
say that. During our ten minute journey, we discovered that
this man was an African refugee who had been living
and working in the UK for years, along with his
family and children who were born in the UK. We
were discussing the horrors of recent events and the disgusting
treatment of refugees or any black or brown person in

(05:42):
this country. He then told us that his teenage daughter,
born in the UK, is currently asking to move to Africa.
He explained that his daughter is so concerned about what
might happen that she would rather move to a foreign
country than stay here end quote. This is fucking infuriating.

(06:06):
The goal of these attempted pilgrims for the last couple
weeks in Britain was to instill fear in the hearts
of refugees and black and brown people and their families.
When a racist hears that the daughter of a refugee
doesn't feel safe in her own home, in her own
place of birth, they are gleeful and view it as
a sign that their nasty, racist, fucking bullshit is doing

(06:29):
what they intended it to do. This is why these
pig fucking racists cannot be allowed even an inch in
the public square. We need to more effectively shut them
down before they can even get started. But better late
than never, motherfuckers. Now, organizing against these dumb, fucking chuds

(06:55):
is exactly what was needed. And with that said, there's
been some questionable shit regarding Stand Up to Racism as
an organization, most recently that SUTR Sutter organizers shut down
a Palestinian woman who is invited to speak at an
anti fascist rally, which what the fuck organizers insisted that

(07:17):
she not make a speech about Palestine. They switched off
her fucking megaphone and told her this is not a
Palestine demo, with the crowd reacting as they should have
with the chant of let her speak. And this isn't
the first time that Sutter has cowtowed to fucking Zionists.
There's been a long struggle in Scotland, for example, over

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allowing open supporters of genocide to take part in an
annual anti racist march. Other ostensibly left wing organizations like
Unite Against Fascism, Rock Against Racism, and the Anti Nazi
League all have histories of allowing Zionists in their ranks,
which is completely fucking antithetical to the goal of anti racism.

(08:01):
Zionism is a political ideology that is inherently racist and violent.
There is no excuse any longer for any of these
supposedly anti fascist organizations to be collaborating with the slightly
nicer racists who still want to genocide Palestinians, just more
slowly than the outright fascists. No fucking liberals, in your weak,

(08:26):
fucking half assed bullshit, you're either with us or without us.
Pick aside, you fucking idiot cowards. Jesus Christ, Like you
don't want to be associated with Zionists as an anti
fascist organization, Like it's difficult to maintain that you're truly
anti fascist when you're aligned with fascists. I know that

(08:48):
it's difficult for a lot of people to delineate between
Jewish people and Zionists, but you know, it's I don't
know why. Why is that difficult? Zionism is a political ideology.
Jews are not those are people. Zionism is an ideology.
Fuck Zionism. Love Jewish people. This is not a hard

(09:11):
concept to grasp. But yeah, I mean, if you're a Zionist,
fuck you. I don't care if you're Jewish, a Christian,
it doesn't matter. I don't care if you're Hindu. If
you're a Zionist, fuck you. At this point. Fuck you.
This is a hard line stance that every leftist should

(09:31):
be on board with, and if you're not, then you're
not a leftist. You're just a wishy, washy liberal weirdo
who deserves to be nowhere near leftist movements. Does that
sound too harsh? Well, you know what's fucking way harsher
than that, the more headless babies that I just saw
on the fucking internet because of American weapons dropped by

(09:52):
Israel on gossen children again for the fucking millionth time
in the last ten months. Like this shit is the
most obvious fucking thing to get behind. This should make
you fucking sick, makes me sick every time I fucking
watch what the fuck they're doing over there. It's fucking

(10:13):
baffling that anyone on this earth can be aligned at
all with Israel for any reason. Why would you do that? Fuck?
Looking at you, United States of America? What the fuck
is the matter with you?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, a lot, because you know, America's rooted in a
lot of bad shit. But yeah, it is fucking insane
that anti fascist leftist organizations wouldn't allow someone to talk
about Palestine in relation to anti fascism because what's happening
in Palestine is literally tied to these racist riots in

(10:51):
the UK because they are intrinsically connected. Anyone who is
okay with the United States or Britain giving billions of
dollars worth of weapons to a bloodthirsty, genocidal terrorist state
like Israel are the same people backing or literally bankrolling
themselves the all the disinformation and propaganda that sparked the

(11:15):
race riots in the UK. They're exactly the same people.
So to not allow someone to talk about Palestine in
the context of these fucking race riots makes me wonder
if these people who run these organizations have a single
fucking clue what they're talking about, and why the fuck
would you want the face of anti fascism of countering
these fascists to be someone or some group of people

(11:37):
who have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. Now.
Leftist infighting is part and parcel to you know, leftism.
It's the leftist ideology of critique everything, including themselves, to
their betterment but also to their peril. But as usual,
the infighting is mostly because of liberals and how fucking

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stupid they are, because they're a bunch of dumb reactionarias
who are either too stupid to know that they are,
or are in fact totally fine with worsening conditions directly
caused by capitalism, imperialism, setular colonialism Israel because they currently
benefit from that system. And as much as you know
there is something to you know, showing a united front

(12:19):
against fascist scum. No matter what the infighting between leftists
or leftists and liberals may be, I just don't want
them associated with anything to do with the left. They've
compromised many left wing organizations, Code Pink's BDS initiatives, for example.
Zionists have compromised good initiatives. And these fucking people are bizarro,

(12:44):
fucking weirdos who like send their kids off to summer
camp and fucking Israel and hide behind their fucking Coexist
bumper stickers. They're the reason why the left gets such
a bad rap. They are literally the reason why the
right gets to point at the left constantly and say
you are a bunch of hypocrites. You're not consistent about anything,

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and that's just par for the course for liberals. Ask them,
you know, what they think about the border and what
we should do about the border, and if they're like
giving the exact like verbatim arguments that the right gives
about the border and they're like, well, you know, there's
a lot of drugs coming across the border, and you know,
human trafficking and all that, then you're not a leftist,

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you're just a right winger. If you ask them what
we should do about policing, and if they're not like, well,
we need to literally abolish police and we need to
strengthen communities to make sure that they're you know, self
sufficient without the need for fucking cops, then they're not
a leftist. They're a right winger. If and if they

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if you ask them whether Palestinians have a right to
the fucking land that is Palestine that the state of
Israel was literally built on top of, and they're like, well,
white Europeans do have a right that land that they
didn't live on for hundreds of years and should be
just allowed to uproot everyone that was already there. They're
a right winger. Fuck but you know they just stick

(14:13):
that coexist sticker on the back of their fucking SUVs.
Fucking liberals man, like they're always like, shut up, you
stupid rube. And also, better things are not possible, and
we can't get free healthcare because that's not realistic. So
how dare you suggest that we reduce the profit margins
for mega corporations by like one percent attempting to make

(14:35):
people's lives better? How dare you? They're all right wingers,
whether they show up to a Stand Up to Racism
rally or not. They might not like self identify as
a racist, but like they don't want to do anything
to stop racism anyway. That's my feelings about fucking liberals Zionists.
You either be consistent or get the fuck off the field. Yeah. No,

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they're not welcome in the United Front against these disgusting,
fucking fascist scumbags running around the UK fucking targeting brown people,
because that's literally what Israel does. They run around Palestine
targeting brown people. It's literally the same thing.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Ugh.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
The fact that people can't get there, the fact that
they can't understand that, is beyond me. Anyway. My point
is is that it's perfectly fine for these left wing
anti fascist groups to remove Zionists because they don't belong there.
Get the fuck out of our movement. But of course,

(15:42):
this racist bullshit that's been going on in the UK
doesn't just happen in a vacuum. Right Wingers will tell
you that the cause of these racist acts is due
to government failure to crack down on what they see
as an invasion of migrants, and liberals will tell you
that these racists are just a bunch of white trash
poors who don't want to work and are mad that

(16:04):
refugees are encroaching on their public assistance take, and to
be clear, both of these takes are stupid and wrong.
If you're blaming migrants for worsening economic conditions instead of
the billionaire class, then you're an idiot. If you're blaming
poor people, whether they're racist or not, instead of the
billionaire class, then you're also a fucking idiot. This spree

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of hate crimes broke out mostly but not exclusively, in smaller, poorer,
less diverse cities across the UK, but pretending that only
poor people can be racist is intellectually lazy at best
and wilfully obscuritist at worst. The wealthiest man in the
history of Earth is a racist, and he's making electric

(16:47):
trucks that look like fucking dumpsters. Blaming poor people for
this shit ignores the fact that these people were incited
by wealthy racists disseminating and amplifying anti immigrant and anti
Muslim propaganda on the Internet, namely wealthy shit throwing creeps
like Elon Musk. Musk decided to throw fuel on the

(17:08):
fire by posting quote civil war is inevitable on X
amidst the racist upheaval in the UK and insinuating that
British police were somehow unfairly targeting the fascists, calling the
police response one sided, even though plenty of evidence shows
these nasty chuds taking cover behind police lines for protection,

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and as expected, Musk allowed these fascists to organize their
racist demonstrations on X. Moderation of incitement and disinformation on
the platform has gotten somehow worse than it was prior
to Elon's takeover of the platform, which is by design.
Fake news channels on X helped disseminate false information about

(17:50):
the killing of three children in Southport that sparked the
race riots. Far right influencers with massive reach on X,
like English Defense League founder Tommy Robertson not his real name,
by the way, have been allowed virtually unmitigated freedom to
incite their rabid followers with hate fueled lies. On twenty
seven July, Robinson screened a banned film in London's Traffilger

(18:15):
Square to thousands of followers. The rally quickly turned violent,
resulting in nine arrests. The film, called Silenced, was created
to support Robinson's false and defamatory claims against Jamal Jazi,
a sixteen year old Syrian refugee who was the victim
of a racist bullying campaign from his classmates. Robinson claimed

(18:37):
that he had been violently attacking his female classmates and
threatening to stab another boy. Much of the film is
based on the disproven claims of Bailey McLaren, the boy
who was caught on video assaulting his Jazi by literally
fucking waterboarding him, and whose family reportedly has a history
of racist far right activism. Jazi eventually sued Robinson for libel,

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and three years ago Robinson lost the case, with London's
High Court warning Robinson that he'd be jailed if he
continued to ignore the court and repeat his libelist claims
against this boy again. A boy, a sixteen year old
Syrian refugee who was being fucking terrorized by his racist
fuck classmates running on the infamous right wing rallying cry

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of they're trying to silence me. Robinson wrote to his followers, quote,
I'll be jailed for two years for showing the inconceivable truth,
urging his followers to share the film on social media.
Two days after the screening, the killings of three children
at a dance class in Southport provoked shock and anger
around the country. That same day, Robinson fled the country

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to avoid a contempt of court hearing. On his way out,
he was arrested and interrogated under anti terror laws. Before
he was released from a five star hotel tell in Cyprus,
Robinson began ramping up anger among his followers about the
Southport attack on Musk's X, which he blamed on mass
migration and Muslims while calling for mass deportations. Now, was

(20:15):
this person who killed these three children? Was he a migrant? No,
he was born in the UK. Would it matter if
he was a migrant? No, it fucking wouldn't. It still
wouldn't justify attempted pograms against brown people in the UK.
But I mean it is kind of like ironic and

(20:38):
stupid that, like this guy wasn't even a migrant and
Tommy Robinson and all these dumb fuck racists are still
calling for mass deportations. But we also know, like what
they mean when they say mass deportations, they mean they
want to deport everyone who isn't white because these are Nazis. Like,
that's that's what they mean. When they say mass deportation,

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they don't just mean people who are there on refugee status.
That they mean everyone who is not white and Christian.
They want to deport everyone who's not white and Christian
because they're white supremacists. Now this from the Byline Times
investigation quote as the riots laid waste to property and

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terrorized ordinary people. Musk amplified Robinson's posts on x by
questioning his arrest under anti terror laws and allowing Robinson's
band documentary to receive more than thirty three million views
via the platform. As a result, Robinson's posts were seen
up to one point two billion times, with a b

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one point two billion times, according to the Bureau of
Investigative Journalism quote almost everyone that it interviewed at protests
outside Downing Street quote mentioned Tommy Robinson. Musk not only
amplified Robinson, but systematically boosted a rain of far right
influencers promoting disinformation around the riots. In response to incendiary

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footage of the unrest, he tweeted that quote civil war
is inevitable, criticizing Prime Minister Cure Starmer's promise of support
for Muslim communities by writing quote, shouldn't you be concerned
about attacks on all communities? Fucking asshole. That's not an article.
I added that one. But yeah, I mean, Musk is
playing on the all lives matter. Fucking shit. It's not

(22:28):
about all lives because you know, it's white people trying
to make the lives of non white people bad or
worse than they are. So it's it. Yes, of course
all lives that no shit, But in this case we're
not talking about all lives. Fucking jackass, fucking piece of shit.

(22:50):
Fuck you elon. The article goes on, but the infrastructure
for Tommy Robinson's stoking of violent race riots across Britain
did not come out of the blue end quote. Robinson,
the far right convicted fraudster who has played a leading
role in whipping up the unprecedented racist violence in the UK,

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is certainly at the center of the milstrom. But the
violence is the result of a hellish clusterfuck of technology
platforms and far right organizations in tandem with mainstream media,
and they're classest narratives that has been decades in the making.
And I cannot be I cannot stress this enough. This

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shit doesn't come out of nowhere. It's been decades in
the making. And if you didn't see this coming, I don't.
I really don't know where. I don't know where you've been.
I know that we hyper focus, especially as Americans, on America,
and it's litany of fucking terrifying bullshit. But this is

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the entire Western world. What you see in America came
out of Europe. You know, based on its foundation. Everything
that you see regarding the rise of fascism, the reactionary
tendencies amongst the American people, especially amongst its fucking politicians,
it all came from Europe. So the idea like there's
this weird American idea that like Europe is more progressive

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and is far less right wing than the United States
of America is a lie. And if it's not a lie,
it's a myth that far too many Americans believe all
of Europe is incredibly reactionary and always has been. None
possibly more reactionary than Britain. You know, not to paint

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with a broad brush, but the history is just bad.
But you know, regarding this clusterfuck, this worst joint rotation
of all time has enabled racism, Islamophobia, and hatred towards
black and brown people to spread like a fucking virus

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through an austerity riddled population with the aim of dividing
and conquering the masses. That's what this is the real enemy.
As someone said at an anti fascist rally in Brixton,
are the ones who fly into the UK via jets,
not the ones who come in via boats, in reference
to the refugee boats that come across the Mediterranean dangerously

(25:23):
risking their lives to get away from shit that Let's
be honest. Europe and the United States have caused the
destabilization of the Middle East, destabilization of Africa for like
literally the last four hundred years, and more recently all
the imperial warring that we've done across the fucking region.

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And then we wonder why shit's bad there and are like, oh,
I can't believe they're coming here, Warrow, they just go
take care of their own. Why don't we stop meddling
in their shit constantly. But that's another episode. The abject
failures of neoliberalism have blasted an opening through the fabric

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of society that fascists are trying to fill. So the
investigation by Byline Times has found a toxic amalgamation of
dark money, tech platforms, virtually untouchable, hard right wing billionaires,
and far right criminal gangs that are all behind what
occurred over the last few weeks in Britain, but are

(26:26):
fueling the far right movement globally. This is what I
mean when I talk about a global far right movement.
Included in this hellish matrix of the worst people on
Earth are people and organizations with ties to the Trump
campaign and individuals who supported the attempt to overthrow the
US government on January sixth, twenty twenty one, some of

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whom also maintaining direct ties to Putin's right wing Russian government,
because of course they do. To be clear, the far
right likes Vladimir Putin because they think that he's gonna
help destroy the liberal order, which they think is like
the FDA trying to vaccinate your kids to make them

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gay and trans or some fucking shit. Because they're a
bunch of fucking idiots. Yeah, they think that Western civilization,
which was totally pristine and fine before the gays, and
of course the Jews, because they're anti Semites, took control
of it, mutilated it, making it less white and gayer.

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So they like the fact that Vladimir Putin's trying to
tick on the liberal order, but let's be honest, they
want to replace it with some fucking hellish fascist bullshit.
So I'm gonna go with a big, fat, fucking no
to that shit. But yeah. One of Robinson's financial supporters
is an American multi millionaire Trump ally Patrick Byrne, who

(27:59):
in Trump to overturn the twenty twenty election, spoke at
the January sixth rally and maintained ties with Russian intelligence
agents sanctioned by the West for promoting disinformation about the
invasion of Ukraine. So very fun stuff. Another one of
Robinson's supporters, the Byline Times revealed is a far right
Danish politician, Morton Meser Schmidt Mister Schmidt or whatever, who

(28:25):
is close friends with Reformed UK leader and MP Nigel Faraj,
another fucking piece of shit. As the riots were escalating,
Farage posted a video in which he questioned whether the
truth is being withheld from us about the Southport murders.
This was despite the fact that the only reason the
suspect's identity was originally withheld was because he was a minor.

(28:48):
Neil bassou Basu I don't know. The former counter terrorism
chief at the Metropolitan Police accused Farraje of inciting the
riots by quote, undermining the police, creating conspiracy theory, and
giving a false basis for the attacks on the police
end quote. Because you know, the most important thing there
is attacks on the police. We simply cannot fucking have that.

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Mesher Schmidt has a long history of racism and making
anti Muslim remarks, including warning in two thousand and nine
of the inevitability of race wars in Europe that would
require Europeans to participate in a violent uprising. Yet this
is a man with whom Farage has developed a friendship

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with because you know, shit minds think alike. Frage worked
with this guy in the European Parliament and most recently
provided him a personal endorsement for the leadership of the
Danish People's Party. So cool stuff. The article goes on
Robinson's connections with Burne and measure. Schmidt, in the amplification

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of his false claims via key technology platforms controlled by
Trump donors, suggests that Britain's far right run were orchestrated
by an international far right network. And this is exactly
what the fuck the scary part of all of this
actually is. It's a transatlantic far right movement backed by

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a bunch of fucking wealthy bucks. When Tommy Robinson completed
a first cut of his film, one of the earliest
supporters was the American far right radio host and conspiracy
theorist Alex Jones, whose false claims about the Sandy Hook
massacre led American juries to order him to pay one
point four eight seven billion dollars in damages to the

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victims' families. In twenty twenty one, Jones had released a
trailer for Silenced on his website info Wars. There's another
connection to the United States, which you know, if there's
a far right movement, there's probably a connection to the
United States. The following year, Robinson started working with Mice Media,
which described itself as a decentralized media channel based on cryptocurrencies.

(30:59):
Having started by releasing Tommy Robinson inspired NFTs by twenty
twenty three, mice Media began helping him finalize a new
version of his film. Mice Media, which now appears to
be defunct, was founded and run by Burne Davis, an
American technology entrepreneur, Avid Donald Trump supporter and twenty twenty
presidential election conspiracy theorist Wonderful Robinson's mice Media version of

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Silence was launched on one April in the Danish Parliament
in Copenhagen, at an event organized by the far right
Danish People's Party, the DPP and the Danish Free Press Society.
Both organizations have a long history of racist and anti
Muslim hatred. Hosting Robinson at the event was Faraj's connection
Morton measure Schmidt, DPP leader since twenty twenty two, who

(31:48):
spoke both before and after the screening and congratulated Robinson
as a hero, a hero of fucking what nazis, what
the fuck? Convicted of racial hatred in two thousand and
two for putting up a poster blaming the rise in
rapes on a multi ethnic society, measure Schmidt is one

(32:10):
of the earliest proponents of the idea that Europe is
on the brink of a racial civil war triggered by
Muslim immigration. Good god, all of these people are the
worst people. It's the joint rotation from hell. But more
than a decade earlier, in October two thousand and nine,
shortly after winning his seat in the European Parliament, measure

(32:32):
Schmidt spoke at a Washington, DC event, the International Legal
Conference on Freedom of Speech and Religion which you know,
no red Flags, which was co sponsored by the International
Free Press Society the IFPs, a creation of the Danish
Free Press Society on the sidelines. At the event, measure
Schmidt was interviewed by a friend of Tommy Robinson IFPs

(32:54):
board member James Cohen, who would go on to head
up the Jewish division of Robinson's English Defense League, the
fucking EDL. Oh god damn. It set up to distance
the EDL from its anti Semitic reputation. Very nice, very cool,
not at all fucking trying to obscure the fact that
they're just a bunch of fucking frothing anti Semites. Who

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the fuck? What kind of Jewish person is going ahead
and fucking getting on board with Tommy Robinson and all
of these fucking lunatics. Oh what kind? What kind of
Jewish person would do that. A Zionist, a fucking Zionist
would do that. Measure Schmidt's video interview with Robinson, now deleted,
was published by a notorious far right blog, Gates of Vienna.

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The thrust of measure Schmidt's views can be gleaned from
a separate interview he conducted just a month later with
a fellow DPP politician, Nikolai Senles, who was also a
regular Gates of Vienna contributor. Quote, there is no understanding
in the European Commission that you cannot simply replace Europeans
with Arabs without Arabising Europe, he told Sentls in an interview.

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Measure Schmidt's comment was a nod to the far right
great replacement conspiracy theory, which baselessly claims that white people
are being replaced by mass Muslim immigration, specifically in Europe,
because you know that those are the mostly the migrants
that are coming into Europe. Whereas in America, the same
exact conspiracy theory is swapped for instead of Muslims and Arabs,

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it's Mexicans because the white people. What's the difference. Although
there is a fear mongering in America about Muslims coming
across the border isis Remember that shit isis is coming
across the border. That never materialized, of course, but this
conspiracy theory has inspired numerous white supremacist terrorist attacks against

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vulnerable groups. And at the root of this conspiracy theory
is that they think that, you know, the Jews are
behind it all because they're a bunch of fucking galaxy
brain dipshits who don't understand that worsening material conditions caused
by capitalism is what's causing the migration waves. So because
of that complete lack of understanding of how the world works,

(35:10):
they listen to people like fucking Tommy Robinson and all
these fucking frothing anti Semites who give them a reason,
a stupid reason, but a reason for why this is happening.
And these fucking far right billionaires are bankrolling this reason
to the forefront of most of the Internet. So that's
what they come in contact with first is anti Semitic

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conspiracy theories as opposed to critiques of neoliberal capitalism, which
would not only give them the actual knowledge for like
why these things are happening, why mass migration does happen,
but it would also give them the tools to fight
back against the actual enemy, which again is the billionaires,
not the migrants, not the poor people in these mostly
white towns across the UK, it's the capitalist class. So

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it'd be nice if we could stop dividing ourselves and
just aim all of our anger at the right people.
But you know, it's a little difficult when these fucking
tech oligarchs like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, these
fucking tech platforms in conjunction with the media make it
virtually impossible to have that conversation because they are flooding
the zone with shit. Most of the Internet is just

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fucking garbage, and that's by design, and the people pushing
the anti Semitic conspiracy theories to distract from the real
reasons why people are in destitution. They're anti Semites, and
then they try to obscure that fact. Fucking pieces of shit.
But yeah, measure Schmidt goes on in this article to

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fucking fear monger about no go zones in Europe and
how autonomous Islamized areas are like gonna start growing and
just swallowing all of fucking Denmark or whatever the fuck,
and says quote the riots we are observing today will
no longer be mirror Rye, but will evolve into genuine

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insurgencies with demands for independence, complete implementation of Sharia, et cetera,
which is complete and total projection right like it the
riots in the UK, that's the real insurgency. The fucking
Nazis rising up to become independent, trying to implement Nazism,
That's that's the real threat here, not the Muslims who

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have virtually no representation in any of these governments. He
went on to claim that Europe would become embroiled in
a full scale civil war before twenty thirty. Now. The
influence of the Gates of Vienna ideology on Tommy Robinson,
transmitted through the likes of Measure Schmid, came to light
around a decade ago when Robinson was trying to inflate

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civil unrest in Britain after convicted neo Nazi terrorist Andres
Brevick murdered seventy seven people in Norway. The Gates of
Vienna blog turned out to be one of his chief inspirations,
citing it eighty six times in his manifesto. Brewick also
cited one of the blog's most prominent contributors one hundred

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and fourteen times a month before Brevek's terrorist attack. This
contributor claimed that Western governments were complicit in quote a
policy of state sponsored ethnic cleansing targeting the white majority
population end quote, adding quote Yes, the Islamic creed by
itself is inherently violent. No, it cannot be reformed, and

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Islam in any way, shape or form does not belong
in the West. Islam and all those who practice it
must be totally and physically removed from the entire Western world.
End quote. Yeah, these are the people we're dealing with.
This contributor later condemned Brevik's attack and denied promoting any
violence on Q. They gin up racist fucking fervor across

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the planet and then go WHOA, Well, I am just aghast,
just completely dumbfounded, Wow, gobsmacked that this incredible violence came
as a result of my writings. Fucking assholes. They know
exactly what they're doing. But among the gates of Vienna's
other racist, anti immigrant, and anti Muslim posts are quote

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detailed descriptions of how anti Muslim paramilitary groups could operate
during a conflict with European Muslims, and even quote a
guide to amateur bomb making. Jesus Christ. They're like, I'm
not advocating for violence. And then they're like, and here's
a guide on how to make a bunch of fucking weapons.

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I don't want someone to, you know, commit a bunch
of fucking hate crimes, violent hate crimes. Also, here's how
to make a bomb. What kind of fucking serious person
is like, Oh yeah, I believe them when they say
they're not violent and don't want violence. Maybe they're far
right and also just happen to be interested in the
engineering of bomb making. Maybe it's just a big fucking

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coinky dink or going out on a limb here. Maybe
they're trying to incite violence from their fucking rabid, froth
mouthed followers. By twenty fifteen, anti fascism charity Hope Not
Hate found alarming evidence that the Gates of Vienna blog
was linked to a far right plot to exhibit inflammatory
cartoons about the prophet Muhammad to quote incite a violent

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backlash from British Muslims, leading to serious disorder between Muslims
and non Muslim communities end quote. The plot was masterminded
by guess who, Tommy fucking Robinson with far right activist
Anne Marie Waters, with whom he founded the anti Muslim
street protest movement Pegada UK. I'm not sure exactly how
to say that, Pegada Pegada. I don't have a clue,

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and who gives a shit fuck all of these people?
According to a Hope Not Hate investigation, during meetings to
plan the exhibition, Robinson and Waters quote openly discussed using
the cartoons to incite a violent backlash, which they hoped
would spark a wider conflict between communities and ultimately civil war.
And that quote one idea was to hold simultaneous demonstrations

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in areas of high Muslim density in towns and cities
across the UK, which they believed quote police would be
too stretched to cope and at least one of the
demos would lead to a riot end quote. So who's
doing the fucking inciting here? I think it might be
the white supremacist Tommy Robinson has maintained a close relationship
with Measure Schmidt for a number of years. This has

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included featuring him on his Silenced podcast, which, of course
there's that produced through his media organization Urban Scoop News
and released via Alt tech website none other than Rumble,
the Canadian anti censorship video streaming platform co owned by
the American Republican Senator of Ohio JD. Vance, Donald Trump's

(41:47):
vice presidential nominee and billionaire tech investor. Guests who Peter
fucking Teel, the guy who founded the company Pallanteer, which
supplies Israel with technology to help in their genocidal ethno
state project. So yeah, Peter Thiel's not only in the
propaganda business, but he's also in the like literally supplying
weapons of war business, which makes perfect sense. You know,

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he's using the propaganda side, this disinformation and the jinning
up of racist fervor to make sure that wars continue
to happen in the Middle East and then turn around
and sell weapons to these Western nations so that they
can continue destabilizing these regions and killing poor brown kids.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
What a terrible human being.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Earlier this year, Teal told podcaster Tyler Cohen that he
agreed with the critique of liberalism by prominent Nazi Party
member and political theorist Karl Schmidt, comparing America today to
the Weimar Republic in the nineteen twenties. The collapse of
which paved the way for Adolph Hitler's rise to power.
Jesus fuck liberalism, he said, is exhausted. One suspects that democracy,

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whatever that means, is exhausted, and that we have to
ask some questions very far outside the Overton window, Peter
said under Vance and Teal, Rumble quickly became a mouthpiece
for Russian state back media propaganda, because you know, of
course it did. Although earlier this year Rumble content was
blocked inside Russia due to concerns about potential anti Russian material,

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it has however continued to serve Russian state media broadcasts
to millions of North American and Western viewers. So after
Robinson launched the medium mice cut of his Silenced film
with Meiser Schmidt and Denmark, the full video appeared on
the Rumble platform. It was published under the generic account
name of Silenced the film with the statement quote a

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judge of the High Court has threatened to send Tommy
to prison if he released this documentary to the public.
That is where we come in. Leaked to us by
an unknown source. It is our duty to share this
story with the world. God, why do all of these
people right stuff and say things like in the most

(44:03):
like ridiculous way possible. Du everything's so fucking weird, Like
the esthetic of right wing media is fucking bizarre. But whatever.
Of course, the statement urged viewers to donate to help
protect Tommy and his family. It provided a link to
a fundraising campaign hosted by gibsend Go, a Christian crowdfunding

(44:28):
website operating as a hub for far right fundraising, including
QAnon supporters and rioters who attacked the US Capitol in
January sixth. Again like when I say that this is
a fucking gigantic cluster, fuck, this is what I mean.
The alt tech site has raised more than six point
two million dollars for extremist causes since twenty sixteen. Among

(44:52):
the biggest beneficiaries of its fundraising was the Fucking Proud Boys,
designated to terrorist group by the Canadian government and an
extremist group with ties to white nationalism by the FBI.
Tommy Robinson's gives End Go fundraising campaign, which states that
quote all proceeds will go to protect Tommy's family and

(45:12):
Bailey McLaren, you know, the boy who attacked Jamal Hajjazzi
by waterboarding him. As they are not yet in safe Haven,
and this fundraising campaign was created by none other than
Patrick Byrne. The campaign aimed to raise one hundred grand
and it's only managed about twelve so not quite Kyle
Rittenhouse numbers, but you know, twelve grand. Nonetheless. On two August,

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as the UK riots were unfolding, Robinson tweeted an image
of a supposedly autobiographical book by burn Danger Close Domestic
Extremist Number one comes clean, stating quote, here's my book
of choice for this break I'm having. It's Patrick Byrne,
a man at the forefront of saving America. At the

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top of the book says fullward by General Michael T. Flynn.
You know the fucking QAnon general. So burn is an
American multimillionaire and former CEO of online retailer overstock dot Com.
He's also a prominent twenty twenty presidential election denier who
launched the American Project with Trump's disgraced former national security

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advisor Michael Flynn in April twenty twenty one, which Burne
has used to provide extensive funding for far right groups
promoting election conspiracy theories in Arizona, Michigan, and beyond across
the United States. On eighteen December twenty twenty, Burn and
Flynn met Trump in the White House with other election deniers,
where they urged the then president to mobilize armed private

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contractors and the National Guard to seize voting machines. They
presented a draft executive order to Trump based on letters
and emails drafted by a Trump official tasked to find
evidence of election fraud, encouraging Trump to overturn the election result.
Burn and Flynn pushed outlandish conspiracy theories at the meeting,
including that Venezuela had meddled in the election and that

(47:08):
Nest brand thermostats were changing votes. Watch out, the fucking
socialist thermostats are gonna come fucking steal America from the
good white Christian folks. Fucking paranoid dipshits. Several hours after
this group of fucking insane people told Trump that the

(47:29):
thermostats were fucking cheating him out of the election, Trump
tweeted to his followers to come to DC on January sixth. Amazing,
fucking Nest thermostats. They're in the airwaves, man, The Venezuelans
are in the thermostats. This is the problem. This is
why we shouldn't never have connected all these things to

(47:50):
the internet. Not because thermostats are even capable of doing
that to a voting machine, but because people would believe
that you could fuck literally no election. Like cybersecurity expert
is like, you know what, we forgot to think about
the fucking thermostats. Fuck they're in the walls. God, if

(48:17):
your entire country is fucking compromised by thermostats, then I
don't think it deserves to exist, Like this isn't your
country anymore if if that's all it takes. But anyway,
I'm just gonna go ahead and read the rest of
this article because almost done. Trump had previously pardoned Michael
Flynn after he pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI

(48:39):
about his secret communications with Russian officials in twenty sixteen,
at the same time Russia was attacking American democracy with
their influence operations. Flynn, a leading figure in Trump's attempted
coup efforts, is no longer affiliated with the American Project,
but in June, Burne suggested him as a potential vice
president for Trump, tweeting, quote, Flynn knows how to spring

(49:02):
Trump from prison. What the fuck does that even mean?
He knows how to spring Trump from prison? What does
this mean? Like, like fucking l Choppo, he's gonna spring
him from You're gonna dig a fucking tunnel under the
prison and spring him out of there? What are you

(49:23):
talking about? Are you gonna go in there and smuggle
Trump a fucking fork so that he can whittle it
into a fucking shive and slowly carve a hole into
the fucking floor of his cell. And Donald Trump just
drops down onto a fucking motorcycle waiting for him in
the tunnel. Fucking Michael Flynn's on it. Come on, sir,
I'm your general. Let's go save America again. Is that

(49:47):
how Michael Flynn is gonna spring Trump from prison? What
the fuck are you talking about? Patrick burn finished that
fucking weird ass tweet by saying, the the world is
at war and we need a general. Michael fucking Flynn,
the guy who went down a fucking QAnon rabbit hole

(50:09):
on the internet and became insane fucking awesome. Burne also
has ties to notorious convicted Russian spy Maria Buttina, with
whom he had a romantic relationship. They were fucking because
of course they were. Buttina had successfully penetrated conservative political
circles in the US before being outed and serving a

(50:30):
fifteen month US prison sentence for acting as an unregistered
foreign agent of Russia. The Senate Intelligence Committee investigation found
that Boutina attempted to get the Trump campaign to create
a secret communications back channel with Russia. Burn later claimed
that he had been instructed to maintain a relationship with
Btina by the American deep state. Patrick's like hear me out, listen.

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They had me at gunpoint. They captured me in a
parking garage, and they told me I had to maintain
this relationship with the Russian spy or else. My hands
were tied, literally, my hands were tired. They put me
in a trunk. Stupid. I don't know why, but I
don't believe you yet. After her return to Moscow, Burne

(51:18):
continued to maintain a strong relationship with Putina, including financing
her pro Putin political campaigning in the state Duma to
the tune of tens of millions of rubles. Jesus Christ,
this is why I don't believe him. Buttina later wrote
the preface of Burn's book, Danger Close, published in February

(51:39):
twenty twenty four, while Flynn wrote the books Fucking Forward.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Ugh.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
You gotta admit, though, these people are incredibly entertaining. In
addition to ties with US insurrectionists, Tommy Robinson has cultivated
his own direct ties with Russia, as documented by Ross Burley,
founder of the Center for Information Resilience. The year before
Robinson lost the High Court proceedings launched by HISAZI, he
traveled to Moscow in Saint Petersburg to meet pro Kremlin

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Russian figures, many of whom specializing in foreign influence operations
and disinformation. A week before the outbreak of riots in
the UK, Patrick Byrne was publicly threatening US law enforcement
with death by piano wire and blowtorch. Jesus, this guy's
not at all unhinged. He's fine, Patrick, There's nothing wrong

(52:30):
with him. He's fine. This is normal. This is just
normal things that you post on the internet, like this
that he wrote on X. Of course, he said, quote
two and a half percent of British population muslim men
commits ninety percent of rapes. Are they racist? Because I
think that a group expecting to do that without expecting response,
has a latent sense of supremacy end quote. Holy shit.

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First of all, it should go without saying that that
statistic is fucking bullshit. This ridiculous lie is a conspiracy
theory that of course took off in right wing circles
regarding grooming gangs gangs of Muslim groomers, and this conspiracy
theory has been going around for years now. Three years ago,

(53:20):
a much anticipated Home Office report concluded that there is
no credible evidence whatsoever that any one ethnic group is
overrepresented in cases of child sexual exploitation. For many in
Britain today, the term grooming gang immediately suggests Pakistani heritage
Muslim men abusing white girls, but the Home Office researchers

(53:40):
found that group based defenders are most commonly white. This
is incredible how far this conspiracy theory in particular has
reached across the fucking Internet and across the world, but
in the UK in particular. The Home Office report was
a two year study making it very clear that there
are no for asserting that Muslim or Pakistani heritage men

(54:03):
are disproportionately engaging in such crimes. But of course this
is like fucking fodder for you know, right wing conspiracy theorists,
you know, And of course they denied the report saying
you know, claiming that the grooming gangs were not properly
investigated due to political correctness and a fear of being
accused of racism, which is fucking stupid. If you believe that,

(54:26):
then you're I mean that takes a very specific level
of right wing internet brain rot. Like your brain is
fucking rotted if that's something that you think political correctness
and the fear of being called a racist prevented them
from doing a proper investigation. Yeah, your brain's not working.
It's melted by bullshit. Now, the history of the UK's

(54:49):
response to child sexual exploitation and abuse is littered with failings.
I mean, it's like the poster child for sweeping this
kind of thing under the rug and not investigating it
at all. And even this Home Office report fails to
include a whole range of problems that might reasonably fit
into that category of CSE, such as abuse that occurs online,

(55:11):
in schools, care homes, other institutions. And because of these
failings in this report, and you know, so many others
around the world. It's not just the UK, the United
States has similar issues. People will point to the flaws
and go, well, inaccurate, it still could be possible. Well,
so the problem is is that there's not reliable data
on this stuff, and we're relying on anecdotes. So if

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you're a fucking froth mouthed racist, you're just going to
focus on the anecdotes of Muslims committing offenses like these
and hyper focus on them to elevate amplify your narrative.
But the fact is is that there's no evidence whatsoever
that any one group is overrepresented in these sorts of crimes.

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Doctor Ella Cockbane, an associate professor in Security and Crime
Science at University College London, and doctor wukos to Fail,
a senior lecturer in criminology at Leeds Beckett University, wrote
this for The Guardian. The literature review that accompanied the
main report was actually far more rigorous and nuanced. It
clearly identified biases in data sets, definitional problems and other

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limitations that mean definitive answers to most of the questions
posed are simply not possible. In other words, the right
data are unlikely ever to exist. It is time to
call off the witch hunt. We need finally to accept
what credible research has been telling us for years that
child sexual abuse is not a Muslim problem, but is

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endemic to virtually all communities. Look at the numbers, the
sheer scale makes the ubiquity of abuse inevitable. An estimated
one in thirteen adults in England have been sexually abused
as children. In twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, police across
the UK recorded more than seventy three thousand sexual offenses
against children, and the Home Office review itself reminds us

(56:59):
that only around one in ten victims actually disclosed child
sexual abuse to an official at the time. The fact
that so few children come forward should concern us. All.
We know too many children have tried to tell and
not been taken seriously. We know obvious warning signs have
been missed. We know the court process is traumatizing. We
know children across the country have been and are being

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raped and sexually assaulted in many different contexts, most often
by family members and other trusted figures, which is by
far the most common of contexts for this type of crime.
It's mostly somebody you know. It's mostly a family member.
This is across the board, across the world. It's usually
a family member or a neighbor. You know. It's not

(57:42):
a stranger. It's usually somebody within the group. She writes.
If we really want to tackle this issue, we have
to stop fixating on the lurid and false distraction of
Muslim grooming gangs. We need to address the woeful underfunding
of the relevant community healthcare and violence against women's services,
and we need to address repeated systemic failings that are

(58:03):
being neglected. There must be a genuine political commitment to
tackle all forms of sexual abuse, and one that prioritizes
investment in services and communities. The past decade has shown
that too many people in power are insufficiently concerned when
sexual abusers are not from Asian or Muslim backgrounds. Their
hypocrisy fails victims and damages prevention efforts. End quote, So

(58:28):
who are you gonna believe huh, these fucking woke crime scientists,
these criminologists, or are you gonna believe these scumfuck racists.
I don't know. It's really a toss up, but yeah. Now.
The Byline Times investigation concludes that quote the backdrop to

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the UK riots was not just online disinformation. It can
reasonably be argued that more than a decade of austerity
has laid the groundwork for widespread disillusionment, apathy, and exclusion.
Yet previous conservative governments attempted to manage this national crisis.
It appeared through divide and rule, weaponizing disinformation and fake

(59:11):
news about Muslims, migrants, and minorities to distract from the
systemic causes of persistent social and economic malaise. The constant
demonization of minorities by right wing press has channeled growing
anger and frustration into a politics of division, sharp end
of which is racism and anti Muslim hostility. But these factors,

(59:32):
even taken together, do not explain how they culminated in
a week of violent racist rioting in Britain. This investigation
suggests that the riots were enabled by a pattern of
disinformation promoted by far right influencers with ties to many
of the same people involved in the violent insurrection on
Capitol Hill four years ago, using tech platforms owned by
some of Trump's most ardent supporters, including Elon Musk and

(59:55):
Peter Teel. The extent to which riots may have been
orchestrated by foreign actors with form for similar criminality, whether
in the US or Russia, will be difficult to determine,
but perhaps that is to miss the wider point that
The violence was enabled and triggered by what has become
a global ecosystem of far right disinformation. Key figures in

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this ecosystem are radicalizing people into believing that they are
the victims of a war, the faces of which are
minority communities depicted as harbingers of a foreign invasion, which
therefore requires violent racism in response. This is not an accident.
The specter of Western democracies torn apart in race wars

(01:00:37):
is a vision which key figures in this movement have
desired for more than a decade now. The toxic amalgamation
of dark money, technology platforms, unaccountable hard right wing billionaires,
and far right criminal gangs has pushed us to a
global political tipping point. The risk of murky, nefarious interests

(01:00:58):
stoking far right paramilitary violence to undermine our democracies from
within is greater than ever, and in the absence of
a meaningful response, the social fabric of our country will
remain at risk long after these riots have ended. End
quote that was Nafiz Ahmed and the investigation by the

(01:01:20):
Byline Times published on eight August twenty twenty four. I'll
put that in the show notes. Definitely worth some shares.
But I'll leave you with this. The people in power
pit us against one another, and if you can fucking
help it, stop being classist. If you're a racist, don't

(01:01:40):
be a racist. But if you're a fucking liberal, don't
be a classist. Form some solidarity with one another so
that we can actively confront the actual enemies of all
of us, no matter what class we're in, no matter
where we are, no matter what group we're a part of,
because if we don't, things will continue to deteriorate. Conditions
wills and these fascists will continue to gain ground, and

(01:02:03):
more and more people will be hurt, and eventually that
affects you, no matter how protected you think you are. Anyway,
fuck these people and uh love your neighbor no matter
where they came from.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
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