February 3, 2025 • 46 mins
Thrash metal legend Schmier chats 4 decades of Destruction, new album "Birth Of Malice," and the first time he heard Appetite for Destruction.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number four
hundred and ninety. My name is Branda. Welcome to the
podcast from Destruction. Schmeier. How are you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I did say it right, yeah, yeah, because many Americans
say Schmeier, you know, because yeah, it reads like this,
but it's Schmeier. Yeah, especially like you know, you know
the smear test, you know for woman.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh, I wasn't gonna say, like a PAP smear. I
was in the same because I'm a New York Jew,
so I'm used to like shmearing. But butter on a.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Bagel, that's it. Yeah, that's that's it. That's how my
nickname came up. I was the messy guy in my
years when I was a teenager, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So, oh, that's okay. I was gonna ask that. I'm
glad that came up organically. Beautiful and and what a history,
not just of the name, but of the band. Last
year was the fortieth anniversary of the band. I mean,
and now you're just we're in the forty first year
and we're.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Actually it's difficult to say because we founded in eighty two.
First release was eighty three, the demo. The first album
was eighty four Sentence of Death. So basically it's a
great soul of forty years now, you know, like the
the foundation of the band, and we don't even actually
even know one hundred percent because it's so wi She
(01:59):
was she, you know back in the day, there was
no real you know, people writing down the day when
before founded, And we've been investigating about newspapers. The first
time we were in the newspaper and stuff, and then
we were like, okay, it was somewhere in eighty two.
Then we started the band officially and the demo came
out eighty three, So basically now we're under forty second
(02:22):
year now technically, but depends on how you count it.
If it's the first release of the album, then it's
eighty four, then we're in the in the forty years now.
But I think the foundation of the band was eighty
two just incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And the fact that you're putting out your sixteenth studio
album coming out in March, Birth of Malice, I mean,
is it how do you keep the like what motivates
you the most over forty forty you know, Asterisk years,
forty one, forty two, forty three, whatever, what has kept
you motivated to continue to make new music and not
(02:59):
just you know, rest your.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Ups and downs. You know, it's like life goes like that.
You have your ups and downs, and when you almost
lose something, then you appreciate it more. And once you're
a musician for a while, you know, it's so much
dedication and there is so much effort, you put so
much time that consumes your job that it's just more
(03:23):
than a profession. It's like a life goal. It's a
it's a huge dedication and uh yeah, sometimes you'll ask me. Actually,
over my career, people kept on asking me, like what
do you do after music? You know, and now forty
two years later, I'm still here. There's no after music plan.
Basically in music, you know, musicians usually play till they
(03:46):
can't do it no more. And I hope we can
do that too. So the motivation was always music is
the biggest love for my life, you know, and can stop.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What about the like the creativity to again not just
go up and play and go out and play shows,
but to make new music. Is it always like you
have something to say or what is there? And like,
what are some of the themes that we're going to
get from the new record?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, you know, I think the most important thing is
that music, creative music should never be a routine. You know,
You've got to be excited about it. And when you
have a bad day and you're trying to compose and
there's nothing good coming out, just quit, you know, sit
down and write when you're inspired. And I think we
had some years where it was more difficult to write
(04:33):
because you know, writing is also a process of good
mood in between the band members, chemistry, good live shows,
fans that multivade you. All this comes together and then
you sit down and you're inspired, you know, and at
the moment we have a great chemistry. We had a
lot of great shows together in the last two years
(04:53):
for the anniversary tour, so it was very inspiring to
sit down and write this album actually right now. But
of course it's not always like this. You know, you
don't ride your best album every time. But the creation
process is always fantastic because you're creating something new. It's exciting.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What about you know, because there are you know, having
kind of like a classic rock adjacent podcast talking love.
I mean, I talked to new artists, you know, classic artists,
people who've been around longer than you even you know
have like I've had Paul Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
On and wow.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Just but your voice, because everyone's voice is different. You know.
It's one thing if you're an older musician or a
guitarist or you know, like a drummer, but be a
vocalist and especially be your your kind of style. Has
that been a challenge for you with your style? Do
you prepare your voice? Is there some sort of scales
(05:50):
you do and you're kind of style and screaming and thrash.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I know how to take care of my voice nowadays,
much better. You know, when you were young, you didn't
give a fuck. It just came out. But actually, when
I was young, I kind of lost my voice a
couple of times. There was actually one American tour, the Chromax.
We toured like two and a half months, and once
we hit like Upstate New York, I lost my voice.
It was gone. I had to take a huge peniculin
(06:18):
shot at the doctor. But this actually never happened to
me and again in the last twenty years because I
take better care. You know. The good thing about when
you grow older with music, is you learn from the mistakes,
you learn from the past, And yeah, I live more
healthy nowadays, and for me, I have to be functional
(06:38):
on stage. So my whole routine is about being fit
for the show. So I tried to eat healthy, do
some sports, you know, not dehydrate. Those things are super important.
And of course, also you know how to control your
voice better when you get older. You know, I sing
a little bit different than I used to sing, a
little deeper here and there. The range is still there,
(07:01):
but I just have more voice control, And I think
that comes with the experience of I don't know how
many live shows we played, but there must be like
more than a thousand something, you know, So I think,
you know, that's the good thing about growing older with music.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Are there is there a singer, whether it's kind of
in your genre or not, that you look up to
and admire and being like, I like how they've been
able to perform throughout their career. I kind of I
don't know about modeling after, but just be like, I'm
inspired by the way this person handles their voice and
their presentation of their career. Is there any is there
any or a few people like that?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah? Of course, a few people like that. I mean,
when I was young, I looked up to Rob Hellford,
you know, and still I'm a huge Priest fan still
and I saw them live on the last tour. And
Rob is more than seventy two I think now, and
he still performs fantastic for his age, so I have
a lot of respect for that. So you should be
(08:01):
a big fan of Lemmy, you know, because he was
the first one with the scratchy vocals, with the extreme
vocals in rock and roll, basically in the early eighties,
first time of her motorhead life changing. And from the
thrash point of view, of course, I always loved Tom
Riah's voice, you know, because he was the first guy
who did this perfect phrasing, the thrash phrasing, a lot
(08:22):
of fast words going together into cool yeah phrases that
I think those three guys were super important. Then of
course there's more, but I think Rob Halford from all
of them, he kind of, you know, for his age,
he does like the most outstanding job. Also, if you
(08:43):
look at the last Priest, you know, the hook lines
he wrote, you know, I think it's a big gift
if you can write good hook lines it's not just
about singing good. It's also about how good can you write,
especially when you get older. There's a lot of good
examples for bands when they grow older, they don't right
so good anymore. The songs get a little bit more
like slower and more boring, and you know, more bluesy
(09:07):
in most of them, you know, not hell for it.
He managed to the last two albums to write so
many amazing melodies and no clients. That's wow.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, he's one of the gold standards. And I'm lucky
enough to have also had Rob on the show. And
you mentioned like a phrase, And I'm always curious because
you know how we throw out labels, especially in the
metal and rock community. I mean, you're one of the
forefathers of German you know, thrash metal and black metal.
And do you like these phrases or what do you
(09:39):
consider yourself to be destruction to be?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Of course the metal had first of all, but of
course we're thrash, a thrash band, and when we started
the band, the word thrash wasn't born, you know, the
phrase came somewhere from England. Eighty five was all the
first time after Metallica, I used to. I think on
Whiplash you no thrashing like a maniac. I think it
(10:04):
was the first time you heard the word thrash. And
later on the guy from kerrang are So picked it
up and called this this is thrash metal, you know.
So we were like, oh, okay. So, I mean, I'm
totally okay with the term thrash, you know. And I
understand people need to put categories on music. You need
to put stamps, you know. So, but I see myself
(10:25):
as a lover of rock music. I'm a metal head,
and of course I'm a thrasher to the bone with
my band.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Thrasher to the Bone. That's a good name for a song,
you know, for me, perhaps the all right, the next album,
I like that, or a tattoo or a T shirt
or something I guess like that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, good, that's totally true. I gonna write that down
and for for the next album.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And before I lose it, because you mentioned let me
as an inspiration. But you you've toured with Motorhead back
in the day, right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh yeah, any love shows, yeah, and prime.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I mean, you don't have to go to personal you know,
I know what stays behind, you know, closed door stays there.
But is there like a funny or maybe even an
inspirational Lemmy story, or you learn something from him on
the on the road, perhaps something that sticks out to
you all these years later.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I mean, he was always super friendly, and he was
in his own world. You know. He was playing at
his one arm bandit having checking coke in the morning,
you know, while we're having breakfast hangover breakfast, eggs and beans.
You know, next door, Lemmy was with the banded like cheers, guys.
You know, We're like, he's drinking again, you know. And
(11:40):
his bandmates at the time was Reversal and Phil Campbell,
the guitar players, and they came always to our boss
bus to smoke wheed, you know, and because Lemmy was
drinking all the time, and you were like, we cannot
drink with Lemmy. He's drinking all the time. He's partying
all the time. Let's smoke some wheat together. And but
Lemmy was always taking care of the bands, you know
(12:00):
when he sometimes he just knocked at the door, like
you need something to drink, and he put a case
of beer on a table, or the two men and
she brings us a bottle of jack Daniel's like a
hear from Lemmy and we were like, wow. I remember
one time in France, we were like, we met him
on a tour break in like an expensive bar in Marseille,
(12:21):
and all of a sudden, Lemmy was sitting there like, oh,
Lemmy is also here. And then he invited us for
some drinks at the bar. You couldn't afford it because
it was kind of an expensive place, and he gave
us some drinks and he was always like down to
earth in his own world though, you know, but really
friendly and really like English gentleman. You know. That's that's
(12:42):
what we learned from these tours. And Motive had like
support support bands treat them well, you know, because Lemmy did.
And it was the best thing that happened to us
because he gave us so much more of experience and
stuff that we keep on carrying carrying on. You know.
It's like it was an inspiration for us. Basically.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I love that, and you you love to hear that
because you never know. Sometimes you know that phrase never
meet your heroes, But that's never the case with any
story I've heard about Lemmy.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Everyone, you know, Lemmon was always very cool. He was
down to earth and he I mean, you know, also
we always couldn't understand how he could drink so much
and not be totally drunk, you know, like I mean,
he he had his drugs, you know, but still it
was and he actually sometimes he played jazz against my drummer,
(13:36):
you know, so he sat down and he started playing.
He was actually really good, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
At Jack's no jazz you know jazz board game?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, jazz.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I don't have familiar with that because
I thought you meant Jacks the game. Not is there
a board game called jazz?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
How's it called? You know, the the you know the
what was it English? I forgotten? Yeah, I think it's
called jazz.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Well, some I have listeners in German. Somebody will will
tell me that, like what it is. It's not like
Shoots and Ladder.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yes, it's called Jess.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh chess, Yess, Yes, I said Chess. No, you said
it beautifully. I'm that sounds like.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But just it's my draming accent, you know. So, yes,
it's called Jess. Yeah. So yeah, he played the board
game against my drummer a couple of times, and he
was winning all the time, you know, so even he
was drunk and he was on all the drugs. He
should still sit down and you know, think and be
there and be you know, hopful.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Check.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, it was. It was one of a kind.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I love that. And I'm sure just the way you
come off, you're somebody who probably pays it forward. Are
there any younger bands, whether the thrash or not, that
you're looking to now that kind of going to carry
the torch the way that perhaps and let me looked
at you back in the day, or you know what,
who you're looking at now, who's gonna help bring metal
(14:59):
into the future.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I mean, we've been always trying to bring some of
the younger bands with us on tour. You know. We
we had war Bringer with us in America on tour.
We had the Spanish some Spanish thrashes with us on
tour here in Europe and Crisis, and we always try
(15:22):
to bring some bands that are you know, the new ship,
you know. But yeah, because I know it's very difficult
for a thrash band to tour. You know, thrash is
not the taste of the month, it's more the underground
and and for the young thrash bands, they many of
them tour relentless. They on tour all the time, and
(15:42):
they in their little van. They you know, they they
do tough touring schedules. And when we can bring young bands,
it's always a pleasure, you know, and it's inspiring for
me because I also have to compete with the young
with the young fellows, you know. And also I see
myself how it was when I was at that age,
you know, you know, so it's great to see that
(16:02):
the torch is moving on. You know, the young generation
is there, because for a couple of years it didn't
look so good for thrash. Remember end of end of
nineties was difficult. Everybody was playing melodic death metal and
and and and black metal, and there was no thrash bands.
But now there's a lot of young, young bands actually,
(16:23):
and sometimes I just go on YouTube and check the
young bands. I'm like, wow, so much good shit coming out.
So it's just difficult to get signed for them because
you know, the labels, the the assigned metal core and
they assigned pagan medal and design what's the trend of
the month, you know. But but for thrash band it's
harder to get signed.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, they're out there. We just gotta find them, We
gotta look, and you know that's the beauty of you know,
we talk about the double edged sort of social media
in the Internet, but that's how you know. You can
get discovered now and you never know what's what's the
comment It doesn't matter Sometimes I'll label doesn't matter, but
I want to keep I don't want to keep you
here forever. But you may have noticed the theme. I
(17:07):
have some posters in my backgrounds and I know it's
we talked about Appetite for Destruction. This is just we
have the destruction here. We play like a six degrees
of gene or Bacon here. So other than having that
word in common with the band, I mean, this may be.
This may never just came into my brain when Appetite
(17:27):
for Destruction came out. Was there any part of you
We're like.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh, actually, you weren't toured Motorhead and Phil Campbell, Phil
Campbell from Morahead came on October. I said, we just
toured with those guys in America, checked them out and
you played played Guns N' Roses for them the first album.
It wasn't out in Europe yet, and I was like,
this sounds like Aerosmith, you know, and at that time,
(17:53):
nobody knew that band, and nobody knew they would ever
make such a career, you know, So I would always
forget the first time Guns and Roses from Phil Campbell
from Motorhead introducing them to me, and I was like, yeah,
it sounds good, but it sounds like Aarythmas. It's nothing
new because especially Day was the repeating of rock and roll,
but in a fantastic way, and appetite for destructionists in
(18:15):
the album that has no fillers, just killers. Right, it's like,
what the songwriting monster this album is in the end
now twenty something, twenty nine years later, no more than that,
thirty something years later.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, it's going to be the band. This is what's cool.
It just goes to show you how time fast goes.
The band is going to be celebrating their fortieth year
because they started in nineteen eighty five, but the record
didn't come out until eighty seven, eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, but Europe came out eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Actually yeah, Well it took like a year for it
to blow up, and they.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Actually I remember that in Europe it was really slow
and they were already starting to get big in America
before Europe recognized it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, the UK if the story I've heard is that
they blew up because all because of Alan Niven, who's
from you know, more familiar with that area, the old
great White manager, and they managed gene r at the beginning.
They had to go to the UK first to get
big there and then come back to America. It wasn't
like it was a slow build.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
The biggest in the UK first before they were big
in America.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's the way the legend goes.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, it's like the Scorpions. They were big in Japan
first before they went big in Germany, and then they
went to America did the big tours, and then they
came back and then they were huge in Germany because yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And them, I mean, I know they had to put
it on pause because because Mickey D. Mikey D. Mickey D.
He's uh yeah, Mickey he's having some health issues. But
sixty years for that band.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And they're doing their their final tour since ten years already.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So right, that was like did they do this right
in the final to.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Start and then like oh we don't want to stop
fuck this, you know, So it's long. I love to
see that. You know, those bands they don't have to
play anymore, but they can't stop because it's the dedication
from music they love for music is just too big,
you know. I don't think they would need the money
to still play, you know, they just they can't stop
because I always say, what should they do gardening? After
(20:19):
after all? You know, I mean nothing against gardening though, but.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm sure you relate. You probably see that and you'll
be like, I'm like, I now, I could do that
for sixty years.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So I mean, you know, as long as your health,
you know, the traveling and the challenge, and you know,
it's it's nice to see the world, you know it.
You become a different person when you travel a lot,
you know. So I saw that when COVID hit. I
mean you had to sit home for almost two years.
It was a difficult time for a musician, you know. Yeah,
(20:50):
so you appreciate, I think, but that you appreciate the
tour unless you get old and you don't want to
be on the road anymore. That happens too, I guess,
you know. But I think being on the road there's
a big gift seeing all the countries and the cultures
and that that is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Of course, we're the tour plans for destruction.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
We're actually coming to America for some shows around the
Milwaukee Metalfest. We will play a handful of shows, selected
shows around the Metalfest, and then we're going to come
back to Europe for the festivals and tour Europe in autumn,
and then the plan is to come back for an
American tour end of the year or early next year.
(21:28):
So we see how that goes. We don't know if
we're going to get the visas with the new administration.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
No, oh no, that's all good luck.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Thank you. Yeah, we're hopeful.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Still well assuming, I mean, I can't wait. You know,
I'm sure it all work out. But just congratulations Shmeir
forty one, forty two years, keep going hit break the
Scorpions record, and I hope we get to do this again.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Thank you very much. Hopefully's here in New York. Uh,
We're definitely going to play in New York and May.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So you know, I here's a little question because the
usually before we get out of here. I asked because
I have my son. He'll be two in April and
we're just starting to take him the concerts I mean, unfortunately,
my wife has only taken him to date Matthews. I'm
not a date Matthews fan.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
A little bit early for real death metal shows and stuff,
so that's what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I mean, he has headphones, so I mean, I don't
know if do you have kids, when's the first time
you took them to a death metal show, like when I.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Have not I have no kids, but my brother has kids,
and he brought his son with headphones to our big
festival appearance at the Summer Breeze Festival in Germany when
he was also two years old, so I remember that.
And and now he came again. Now he's like eight
or so, and he came again, and he wanted to
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have a shirt and everything, and you know, he was
totally into it, but he didn't remember much from the
from his first show I think it was.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But I don't know if he likes it again at
eight years old, maybe he got into a system his blood.
So that's that's good advice.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Too early, right, It's never too early.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Never too early, all right?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Protection that's important.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he's he's already got that.
Even for Dave Matthews, which is like listening to a
mouse play a guitar.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know, you know, learning how important live music is
a great thing, you know. I think going to concerts
and appreciating musicians playing real music lives. That's yeah, that's
something too early to learn that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Oh yeah, that's something I can't wait, you know, for
the summer shows and whatever. It's another conversation for another time.
I have him. Sometimes he's here as my co host.
He can say, you know, words here and there. But
I can't wait to start taking into shows and do
concert reviews. I'm getting ahead of myself anyway, Schmier, thank
you for your time, and again I hope we get
(23:51):
to do this again.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Thank you. Pleasure, big pleasure, great talk.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Here's the middle never fails, mister Mailstone. I haven't done
this segment and a bit a lot of this segments
because I got to play a blues clues sound bites
and uh also get to talk to you. So this
(24:16):
is if you sent me a DM on any of
the social media's email the a FD Show at gmail
dot com. You know, sometimes it's a comment that catches
my eyes. But these are the ones I'm gonna read
right now. Are all from Instagram, So if you're not
following there, I encourage you to do so because I guys,
I always say the conversation continues in between the broadcasts,
(24:38):
so this is how it continues, and now I'm bringing
it to the broadcast. So uh, first one, this is
from Craig. Hello. I just found your podcast about a
month or so ago, and I've been going through and
listening to all the direct related guns interviews such as
Gilby and Teddy and Roberta. I'm enjoying hearing stories from them.
(25:00):
I was an Appetite for Destruction era guy. I remember
seeing the video of Jungle on MTV in late eighty seven.
At first, I was like, what the crap is that
lol axel with the teased hair slash you couldn't see
his face, and I thought, Nope, not for me. Then
I heard Sweet Child in the radio and I liked
the song, but I didn't know who it was untild
they said it was the new song from Guns of Roses.
(25:22):
I was like, wait, wait a minute, there's no way
it could be the same band from the video. So
I was intrigued. I went to kmart and bought the
Appetite on cassette and didn't stop listening to that album
for the longest time. My father had passed in May
of eighty eight, so being an angry kid, Guns became
what you might call an outlet for me. I was
(25:43):
a super fan, So I told him, thanks for reaching out,
and I appreciate the story. And I'm gonna say the
same thing here, which I just did. I do appreciate
that story because that's something I can't experience. I don't
know what it was like when Guns and Roses came out.
I was way too young. I was, you know, I
was born in eighty three, so I was I mean,
(26:06):
I was four. I don't think my parents were playing
me Guns of Roses when I was four. I know,
you know, my wife and I try to play a
lot of rock and roll for baby Brownstone, but none
of that's really sticking right now. He he loves listening
to the ABC's so alessant. Guns of Roses comes out
(26:27):
with an ABC an alphabet cover. I don't know if
he's gonna really appreciate Guns of Roses for quite a bit.
So I like hearing stories from those of you who
were around at that time, and it's very it's interesting.
They're like oh Jungle, what is this? And Sweet Child,
which is what really broke the band. It's been documented
(26:47):
it was Alan Kniven's decision to you know, get that
video made and when Jungle wasn't We all know the story.
It was a two am time slot that Tom Zutang
beg four and you know, it was just like a
lot of different people behind the scenes, other people that
were not just from the band themselves. As my phone
(27:08):
just drops off the desk, that's fine, it's I'll attend.
It's live radio, so I'm not gonna edit that out.
So it's just we all know the stories, but just
to hear it from you, a fan just like me
who's a little bit older, very very cool, and you know,
I know it was a long time ago, but I'm
sorry about your dad. You know, as i'm recording this,
(27:28):
it's my dad's Yesterday would have been my dad's birthday.
I think you would have been seventy one. It's just crazy,
which is still young. So it never goes away. I'm
sure it hasn't gone away from you a few Craig,
So I appreciate that story and I'm glad that you've
you found this. Let me look at this. I say
this all the time that no matter how many years
(27:49):
this podcast has been going, for the many years Actual
and Slash have been reunited, still getting new messages, just
like from Craig who discovered the podcast. So actually, let's
read another one. Somebody who just found it. Oh, last
year he found it. This is from Anthony. Hey, I
found your show September because of the interview with Aaron
(28:14):
North of Aaron North, of course former nine inch Nails.
I just wanted to say that your interview is gold,
and not only that, you have a manner and approach
that is rare and deeply human. That was really cool.
I've never witnessed someone actually listening, bringing positive energy and
asking laser sharp questions and just building information and understanding.
(28:38):
You're a great interviewer on a Terry Gross level, and
I'm glad I found your show. Not even a GNR
fan historically, but maybe I'm about to be. Keep up
the great work. Sorry to hear about how you got
railroaded on that book you discussed with Aaron. Looking forward
to enjoying your work for years to come in any form.
(28:58):
I'm telling you this message, I mean, just like Craigs,
this meant a lot to me. Just was kind of
not expecting it out of nowhere, you know, because I
love all the positive messages I get from you, the
loyal listener, but from people who just find me. And
I'm very real. So I'm not going to pretend that
(29:19):
I'm embarrassed that I should have known who Terry Gross was.
I'm just not an NPR listener. I'm a sports radio listener.
It has nothing to do with the politics or anything
like that. I mean, I have listened to NPR. I've
worked on conservative radio. That's it's just kind of you
(29:39):
work where you work, or you listen to what's on
the radio sometimes, and just I love because I love
radio and I like how to hear people approach it
sometimes regardless of the format. So looking her up, I mean,
that's quite the compliment. Your Your compliment was so intelligent.
I didn't even understand it. So I guess that goes
(30:01):
to your point of deeply human and rare because today
more than ever, because I was telling my wife yesterday,
you know, I remember I understand like I think because
I'm forty one born in eighty three, I'm technically a millennial.
I refuse that label because I'm like the border of
(30:21):
gen X and millennial because I remember what it's not,
what it's like not to have computers, what it's like
not to have cell phones. But when you're growing up
with people on the radio like the Howard Sterns and
the Shock Shocks and now and people on TikTok and yeah,
it's it's broad in the horizon, so you see all
sorts of personalities, but it's so much of just like,
(30:43):
listen to me, I know everything. Listen to me my voice,
I got it all figured out. It's I don't have
it figured out. And I got to be honest with that.
You know, my insecurities I've tried to hide for the
longest time to try to better my life to you know,
especially when it came to two girls the funding A girl,
Now I just let a ride. I'm like, these are
(31:05):
my insecurities. I'm in a good place in my life,
so I really don't care. I don't let them overtake
me the way they used to. So that's, I assume
is the deeply human part you're talking about. I try
to bring and yeah, I want to listen. Because I
mentioned Howard Stern, he doesn't listen it's like he answers
(31:26):
for his guests. He's such an overrated interviewer. I mean,
he's obviously a legend in radio, and I have respect
for him and to a degree, but you know, you
watch his interviews now, he just like tells somebody the
story and expects them to kind of just piggyback off it,
just like let them talk. My issue is, which I admit,
no one said this to me, but I admit, is
(31:47):
that I feel like my setup, my setups are too long.
But sometimes I feel it requires it, Like the context
needs to be set in a certain way for certain conversations,
and the guest isn't going to do that. I get
to do that. So anyway, Ladier are sharp questions, I
(32:08):
am flattered. I don't really I used to write out questions.
Now it's on my brain because I will get distracted
if I'm reading stuff on a page. I mean I'll
even get distracted if I'm just looking through notes. I
gotta be. I gotta be in the conversation. I have
to be Otherwise I'm gonna lose it. I'm gonna sound
like an idiot. I want to be. If you remember
that scene from Wayne's World, too with Harry Sheer when
(32:32):
he was Handsome Dan and they were promoting what was it,
a Wayne Stock and he's like, yeah, he's putting all
the tape decks away. He's like, you're not even listening
to anything I say. I could say you're a freak
with a microphone and he's like, yeah, okay, Yeah. So
I don't want to be that guy. So anyway, and
(32:54):
with the book, I'll get into more of that later
on with the Proper Guest as we approach five h
I'll tease it with that. But given where I am
now in life, it happened for the best. It did.
I learned a lot. It just really turned me off
from ever wanting to be to reach a certain level
(33:15):
where there's just too many cooks in the kitchen who
just want something else out of it. Quick buck whose
opinion is garbage. I mean, it's what happens with bands, movies.
I'm just not good in that role. I don't I
don't like people with egos. I don't like being people
being fake And it's it's this is less about Doug,
(33:36):
then it's it's more about It's it's more about the
guy at the end of the marketing company. They just
kind of I felt that fed me a load of bullshit. Oh,
I want you to send me something that I can
approve and let's go forward. I really want you to
send me that, but I'm just not seeing it. Fuck
you dude. It just stop. I'll never forget. I read
(33:58):
reading his one of his proved books. So the leader
Ford autobiography, in one entire paragraph, every sentence started with
the word I. You learn that shit in high school.
You don't have back to back sentences rarely start with
the same word. Just let it load an entire paragraphs,
So stop. Stop. He just wanted somebody who can get
(34:21):
him a quick buck. Anyway, I digress. So anyway, thank
you Alan, excuse me, thank you Alan, Thank you Anthony.
That yeah, for many years to come in any form,
so continue. As you can see, I'm focusing more on
the video form than the audio form. I mean, of
course the audio podcasts are still coming out, but just
(34:42):
focusing a lot on them on social media and YouTube
and yeah, welcome aboard my man. Uh and this one
I thought was really cool and I don't think I
would have mispronounce your name, but I apologize if I
do rust him Okay, so he is from bomb India, Like, whoa,
(35:04):
I'm a big fan of your podcast. I play music
for special needs kids and adults. A lot of the
songs that play are guns or Roses songs, especially patients
and Sweet Child of the Mind. Good work, keep up
the good work. And he sent me a couple of
videos of one of his special needs students jamming out
the patients and it was super sweet. It was super sweet.
(35:26):
So I mean, that's just incredible. It shows a couple
of things there. The Hey, this is rust them, you're
a good person. I have one of my teacher friends
teaches special needs, and I think maybe a couple of
my friends do. And it's just a special kind of
person who does that. But it shows the power of music.
It shows the power of this music, guns and Roses,
(35:49):
and I guess maybe it shows the power of podcasting
because you could just rust them. You could just like
like the entire world Sweet Child of Mind and remember
the lyrics. But the fact that you listen to this,
and I've said this before, this English speaking podcast, and
I am only assuming that English is in your first language.
If I'm wrong, forgive me, And that you listen and
(36:12):
you get something out of it. I mean that means
a lot. So just just just thank you to uh
to rust him, Craig and Anthony, and I wouldn't be
me if I didn't call at least one person out.
This is just funny. So I thank you for all
the wonderful feedback I've been getting for the Todd Kerns interview,
(36:32):
and just thank you to Todd for he's one of
my favorite guests, just like a super nice guy. You know,
it's so hard I just to do a short episode.
I don't know if you've noticed. I've been trying to
do shorter interviews, like maybe like half an hour as
opposed to like as I as I pull up my
YouTube right now, I because that's what YouTube prefers. I mean,
(36:56):
I'm not Joe Rogan, so not many people want to
watch a three hour interview, not that I did many
of those, but unless it's a major guest, I really
try to keep it to a half an hour. I
mean times of major guests, but I've had them on before.
I'm like, let's do it. Half an hour. Easily did
an hour, and I knew we were gonna go for
a bit. We're gonna have a lot to talk about.
(37:18):
I think we spoke for like twenty minutes before I
even hit record, just to get it all out. So,
I mean, just a wonderful conversation, wonderful feedback except for
this one person. There's always one guy, and it's un
fucking believable. I gotta I'm actually now I have to
scroll through all the positive comments to get to this
(37:40):
uh one negative one. It is okay right here from
Keith on YouTube. Great interview until the cat discussion. Oh sorry,
Keith that I wanted to talk about my cat that
just died. That like was like my first son to me.
(38:05):
You ass, you jackass? I mean for real, I mean
I'm talking about I'm not just saying like, hey, can
we talk about cats by myself for like ten minutes.
It's what made Todd excited for the interview because he's
a big cat guy as well. And to incorporate it
within my theme talking about slashes, cats, axles cats, to
(38:27):
understand what it's like when you're on the road when
you have cats, to make it part of just the
grand discussion. And my cats have been part of the
podcast as I've been doing this for so long, you know,
as starting out as a single guide. Then all of
a sudden, I have cats in the background when I
start doing this on Zoom during the pandemic, and they
become part of the show. So it was a big deal.
(38:49):
So and it was at the end of this interview
that was almost over an hour long, that this person
had a problem with it, this person, Keith. There's always
one like, you're such a loser who has a problem
with that, Even if you're not a cat guy. That
wasn't your favorite to go out of your way and
make that comment. You gotta be a loser. You got
(39:11):
to like in your life there's something missing, and I
hope you find whatever that is. It's like that same
person I still remember that thinks like I do stuff
with Harrison Baby Brownstone for clicks. I do it because
I love my son and it's fun as hell to
do this stuff with him. Like I don't know, I mean,
people were like, oh cute baby click, oh cat click, cool,
(39:34):
But I'm not shoving them on the camera like some
parents do. And that's actually what I was talking about
with my wife last night. I'm like, we could man
if I had the time, or if I was a
bad parent, and like sitting like editing TikTok videos because
Harrison's so funny and like trying to do different things
with him. But I'm like, no, now, I just let me.
(39:54):
He's experience this life and live it. So God forbid.
If I hold to him for a little bit of
an episode, go for a bit. If I talk about
my cat they just died for a few minutes at
the end of an episode, God forbid. She's like this,
it's it's And then again this brings up because there's
always just there's always one, and it's unfortunate because that's
(40:16):
what sticks out. And it's not just for me. It's
a lot. You hear this from celebrities, you hear this
from people, and I'm fortunate enough to be in a
place where I'm not letting it overtake me. I'm just
flabbergasted that these are people that exist and are allowed
to live adult lives, that that person there was a
person who criticized Axles, like vocals, like calling him like
(40:38):
a loser, all these things like it has been. I
always thought that term has been is kind of hilarious
because that means you were successful, and it has been
is just a term for somebody who's trying to put
somebody who's successful down to make yourself feel better. That's
all it was. Because you don't call somebody a has
been unless you were. It never was. And when you
(41:00):
think about it, we're all something to somebody. So it's
just people just have this hate for celebrity and it's
just it's it's kind of sad. I mean, I find
myself guilty of it at times. I mean, but more
and so when I was younger and really just you
look at celebrities as like these untouchable things. And as
I've been doing these interviews, it's I'm telling you this podcast,
(41:23):
it's really helped me mature and that that kind of
understanding of what it means to be, not that I'm
a celebrity, looking at it talking to rock stars and
seeing how human they are, and it doesn't matter how
much money they are and how many people know who
they are. It's we're all fucking human, We're all gonna die,
we all feel things. So this person shitting on axel
(41:48):
And I always find it funny when an adult writes
like and this is no because we're all an adult,
you can write lol, that's fine. But when you're an
adult that writes lols. Come on, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Like?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Why are you texting like you're, you know, a teenager lols?
So sometimes maybe i'm too. If you don't know my personality,
the way I respond on on social media could be
be like what so I was just like it's and
this guy was commenting from his own music page. I
didn't even listen to it. I'm like better than your
(42:25):
nothing music lols. And I just put a bunch of
different letters after it that were just nonsensical, just to
make fun of his lols. And the guy got so
upset he called me a cripple. Can you believe that
this wasn't even a listener. This is somebody who I
guess looked into it to find to say. And he's like, oh,
this guy's handicapped. What's the worst word I can call him?
(42:45):
And I was like, obviously, I'll leave this up here,
so maybe your employer will get you fired. Good job.
The guy eventually apologized to me privately, and it just
to end it, I was like, yeah, no worries, but
just think about it. These are there are people who
have problems with Those are the things you would think
(43:05):
that you wouldn't. There's a lot of things to make
fun of me for or criticize me about, but you
wouldn't think because of my disability, because of my child
or my dead cat. Yet people exist fucking crazy. You know.
I'm gonna read you one more to show you good people,
(43:27):
and there are good people out there. This isn't lucas short,
but sweet Hi. I would like to support you on Patreon,
but it does not accept crypto. You accept bitcoin donations.
I haven't told my brother about this yet, who's probably
gonna flip out because one of my brothers is so
into bitcoin, so into bitcoin. I mean maybe now if
(43:53):
I get more you know, suggestions like this, but it
brings up the opportunity for me to bring up if
you would like to support this page. If you would
like to support this crippled father with a dead cat Patreon,
just go on aftpod dot com. There's a lot of
(44:14):
different ways you could support. I actually just made it
active on Facebook. You could subscribe, be a subscriber. I
think it's like a small monthly donation just to help out.
I'm working on doing that on Instagram as well, just
to help out. There are things that I would like
to invest into the podcast. I want a better webcam.
(44:36):
I would like a microphone, an extended microphone stand, not
just like this. You know, this one kind of gets
propped up. I would like want that moves, maybe gets
like a different mic, maybe like a headphone I can
kind of move around a little bit, but a different
camera to begin with. I guess I'm using my regular
laptop camera, which is the best. So there are things
(44:57):
I would like to invest back into the podcasts. When
Harrison starts talking more, he he I don't know if
you saw my tweet, he can officially. I mean, this
is a big time in parenthood. He can say poo
poos and peepees. That's huge. So when he can start
saying axel and slash, I mean, he's gonna be my
co host a lot. I want to get a second microphone.
(45:20):
I would love to get a second a second camera,
maybe to look back at his play place when I'm
over here. So there's a lot of things I would
love to invest back into the podcast. But right now,
all money I make is goes to paying bills and
whatever I can save for Harrison's future, whatever I can
(45:40):
I can scrape by to do that, So Anyway, the
best supporter is just the messages I've been getting and
being able to do this for years and interview my
rock heroes, all because you've given me a platform. So
thank you. That does it for this episode of Appetite
for Distortion. We'll do more, mister Malestone in the future. Again,
(46:02):
the conversation continues in between the broadcast. That's how you
find out about future guests. That's how you can ask questions.
You can maybe be a guest co host if you're like, ooh,
this person's my favorite. I really know a lot about
this person. Brando, like, what time are you doing this?
Maybe I'm around I can guest co host. You could, Yes,
that's the thing that you can do. So just just
(46:23):
let me know Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, not next whatever you
want to call it. Follow on YouTube again podcast, I mean,
the new website is afdpod dot com. So when we
see the next episode in the words of Axo Roads
concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it. Thanks to the lame asked security.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
I'm going home
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number four
hundred and ninety. My name is Branda. Welcome to the
podcast from Destruction. Schmeier. How are you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I did say it right, yeah, yeah, because many Americans
say Schmeier, you know, because yeah, it reads like this,
but it's Schmeier. Yeah, especially like you know, you know
the smear test, you know for woman.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh, I wasn't gonna say, like a PAP smear. I
was in the same because I'm a New York Jew,
so I'm used to like shmearing. But butter on a.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Bagel, that's it. Yeah, that's that's it. That's how my
nickname came up. I was the messy guy in my
years when I was a teenager, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So, oh, that's okay. I was gonna ask that. I'm
glad that came up organically. Beautiful and and what a history,
not just of the name, but of the band. Last
year was the fortieth anniversary of the band. I mean,
and now you're just we're in the forty first year
and we're.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Actually it's difficult to say because we founded in eighty two.
First release was eighty three, the demo. The first album
was eighty four Sentence of Death. So basically it's a
great soul of forty years now, you know, like the
the foundation of the band, and we don't even actually
even know one hundred percent because it's so wi She
(01:59):
was she, you know back in the day, there was
no real you know, people writing down the day when
before founded, And we've been investigating about newspapers. The first
time we were in the newspaper and stuff, and then
we were like, okay, it was somewhere in eighty two.
Then we started the band officially and the demo came
out eighty three, So basically now we're under forty second
(02:22):
year now technically, but depends on how you count it.
If it's the first release of the album, then it's
eighty four, then we're in the in the forty years now.
But I think the foundation of the band was eighty
two just incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And the fact that you're putting out your sixteenth studio
album coming out in March, Birth of Malice, I mean,
is it how do you keep the like what motivates
you the most over forty forty you know, Asterisk years,
forty one, forty two, forty three, whatever, what has kept
you motivated to continue to make new music and not
(02:59):
just you know, rest your.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Ups and downs. You know, it's like life goes like that.
You have your ups and downs, and when you almost
lose something, then you appreciate it more. And once you're
a musician for a while, you know, it's so much
dedication and there is so much effort, you put so
much time that consumes your job that it's just more
(03:23):
than a profession. It's like a life goal. It's a
it's a huge dedication and uh yeah, sometimes you'll ask me. Actually,
over my career, people kept on asking me, like what
do you do after music? You know, and now forty
two years later, I'm still here. There's no after music plan.
Basically in music, you know, musicians usually play till they
(03:46):
can't do it no more. And I hope we can
do that too. So the motivation was always music is
the biggest love for my life, you know, and can stop.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What about the like the creativity to again not just
go up and play and go out and play shows,
but to make new music. Is it always like you
have something to say or what is there? And like,
what are some of the themes that we're going to
get from the new record?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, you know, I think the most important thing is
that music, creative music should never be a routine. You know,
You've got to be excited about it. And when you
have a bad day and you're trying to compose and
there's nothing good coming out, just quit, you know, sit
down and write when you're inspired. And I think we
had some years where it was more difficult to write
(04:33):
because you know, writing is also a process of good
mood in between the band members, chemistry, good live shows,
fans that multivade you. All this comes together and then
you sit down and you're inspired, you know, and at
the moment we have a great chemistry. We had a
lot of great shows together in the last two years
(04:53):
for the anniversary tour, so it was very inspiring to
sit down and write this album actually right now. But
of course it's not always like this. You know, you
don't ride your best album every time. But the creation
process is always fantastic because you're creating something new. It's exciting.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What about you know, because there are you know, having
kind of like a classic rock adjacent podcast talking love.
I mean, I talked to new artists, you know, classic artists,
people who've been around longer than you even you know
have like I've had Paul Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
On and wow.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Just but your voice, because everyone's voice is different. You know.
It's one thing if you're an older musician or a
guitarist or you know, like a drummer, but be a
vocalist and especially be your your kind of style. Has
that been a challenge for you with your style? Do
you prepare your voice? Is there some sort of scales
(05:50):
you do and you're kind of style and screaming and thrash.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I know how to take care of my voice nowadays,
much better. You know, when you were young, you didn't
give a fuck. It just came out. But actually, when
I was young, I kind of lost my voice a
couple of times. There was actually one American tour, the Chromax.
We toured like two and a half months, and once
we hit like Upstate New York, I lost my voice.
It was gone. I had to take a huge peniculin
(06:18):
shot at the doctor. But this actually never happened to
me and again in the last twenty years because I
take better care. You know. The good thing about when
you grow older with music, is you learn from the mistakes,
you learn from the past, And yeah, I live more
healthy nowadays, and for me, I have to be functional
(06:38):
on stage. So my whole routine is about being fit
for the show. So I tried to eat healthy, do
some sports, you know, not dehydrate. Those things are super important.
And of course, also you know how to control your
voice better when you get older. You know, I sing
a little bit different than I used to sing, a
little deeper here and there. The range is still there,
(07:01):
but I just have more voice control, And I think
that comes with the experience of I don't know how
many live shows we played, but there must be like
more than a thousand something, you know, So I think,
you know, that's the good thing about growing older with music.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Are there is there a singer, whether it's kind of
in your genre or not, that you look up to
and admire and being like, I like how they've been
able to perform throughout their career. I kind of I
don't know about modeling after, but just be like, I'm
inspired by the way this person handles their voice and
their presentation of their career. Is there any is there
any or a few people like that?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah? Of course, a few people like that. I mean,
when I was young, I looked up to Rob Hellford,
you know, and still I'm a huge Priest fan still
and I saw them live on the last tour. And
Rob is more than seventy two I think now, and
he still performs fantastic for his age, so I have
a lot of respect for that. So you should be
(08:01):
a big fan of Lemmy, you know, because he was
the first one with the scratchy vocals, with the extreme
vocals in rock and roll, basically in the early eighties,
first time of her motorhead life changing. And from the
thrash point of view, of course, I always loved Tom
Riah's voice, you know, because he was the first guy
who did this perfect phrasing, the thrash phrasing, a lot
(08:22):
of fast words going together into cool yeah phrases that
I think those three guys were super important. Then of
course there's more, but I think Rob Halford from all
of them, he kind of, you know, for his age,
he does like the most outstanding job. Also, if you
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look at the last Priest, you know, the hook lines
he wrote, you know, I think it's a big gift
if you can write good hook lines it's not just
about singing good. It's also about how good can you write,
especially when you get older. There's a lot of good
examples for bands when they grow older, they don't right
so good anymore. The songs get a little bit more
like slower and more boring, and you know, more bluesy
(09:07):
in most of them, you know, not hell for it.
He managed to the last two albums to write so
many amazing melodies and no clients. That's wow.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, he's one of the gold standards. And I'm lucky
enough to have also had Rob on the show. And
you mentioned like a phrase, And I'm always curious because
you know how we throw out labels, especially in the
metal and rock community. I mean, you're one of the
forefathers of German you know, thrash metal and black metal.
And do you like these phrases or what do you
(09:39):
consider yourself to be destruction to be?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Of course the metal had first of all, but of
course we're thrash, a thrash band, and when we started
the band, the word thrash wasn't born, you know, the
phrase came somewhere from England. Eighty five was all the
first time after Metallica, I used to. I think on
Whiplash you no thrashing like a maniac. I think it
(10:04):
was the first time you heard the word thrash. And
later on the guy from kerrang are So picked it
up and called this this is thrash metal, you know.
So we were like, oh, okay. So, I mean, I'm
totally okay with the term thrash, you know. And I
understand people need to put categories on music. You need
to put stamps, you know. So, but I see myself
(10:25):
as a lover of rock music. I'm a metal head,
and of course I'm a thrasher to the bone with
my band.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Thrasher to the Bone. That's a good name for a song,
you know, for me, perhaps the all right, the next album,
I like that, or a tattoo or a T shirt
or something I guess like that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, good, that's totally true. I gonna write that down
and for for the next album.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And before I lose it, because you mentioned let me
as an inspiration. But you you've toured with Motorhead back
in the day, right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh yeah, any love shows, yeah, and prime.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I mean, you don't have to go to personal you know,
I know what stays behind, you know, closed door stays there.
But is there like a funny or maybe even an
inspirational Lemmy story, or you learn something from him on
the on the road, perhaps something that sticks out to
you all these years later.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I mean, he was always super friendly, and he was
in his own world. You know. He was playing at
his one arm bandit having checking coke in the morning,
you know, while we're having breakfast hangover breakfast, eggs and beans.
You know, next door, Lemmy was with the banded like cheers, guys.
You know, We're like, he's drinking again, you know. And
(11:40):
his bandmates at the time was Reversal and Phil Campbell,
the guitar players, and they came always to our boss
bus to smoke wheed, you know, and because Lemmy was
drinking all the time, and you were like, we cannot
drink with Lemmy. He's drinking all the time. He's partying
all the time. Let's smoke some wheat together. And but
Lemmy was always taking care of the bands, you know
(12:00):
when he sometimes he just knocked at the door, like
you need something to drink, and he put a case
of beer on a table, or the two men and
she brings us a bottle of jack Daniel's like a
hear from Lemmy and we were like, wow. I remember
one time in France, we were like, we met him
on a tour break in like an expensive bar in Marseille,
(12:21):
and all of a sudden, Lemmy was sitting there like, oh,
Lemmy is also here. And then he invited us for
some drinks at the bar. You couldn't afford it because
it was kind of an expensive place, and he gave
us some drinks and he was always like down to
earth in his own world though, you know, but really
friendly and really like English gentleman. You know. That's that's
(12:42):
what we learned from these tours. And Motive had like
support support bands treat them well, you know, because Lemmy did.
And it was the best thing that happened to us
because he gave us so much more of experience and
stuff that we keep on carrying carrying on. You know.
It's like it was an inspiration for us. Basically.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I love that, and you you love to hear that
because you never know. Sometimes you know that phrase never
meet your heroes, But that's never the case with any
story I've heard about Lemmy.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Everyone, you know, Lemmon was always very cool. He was
down to earth and he I mean, you know, also
we always couldn't understand how he could drink so much
and not be totally drunk, you know, like I mean,
he he had his drugs, you know, but still it
was and he actually sometimes he played jazz against my drummer,
(13:36):
you know, so he sat down and he started playing.
He was actually really good, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
At Jack's no jazz you know jazz board game?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, jazz.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I don't have familiar with that because
I thought you meant Jacks the game. Not is there
a board game called jazz?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
How's it called? You know, the the you know the
what was it English? I forgotten? Yeah, I think it's
called jazz.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Well, some I have listeners in German. Somebody will will
tell me that, like what it is. It's not like
Shoots and Ladder.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yes, it's called Jess.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh chess, Yess, Yes, I said Chess. No, you said
it beautifully. I'm that sounds like.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But just it's my draming accent, you know. So, yes,
it's called Jess. Yeah. So yeah, he played the board
game against my drummer a couple of times, and he
was winning all the time, you know, so even he
was drunk and he was on all the drugs. He
should still sit down and you know, think and be
there and be you know, hopful.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Check.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, it was. It was one of a kind.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I love that. And I'm sure just the way you
come off, you're somebody who probably pays it forward. Are
there any younger bands, whether the thrash or not, that
you're looking to now that kind of going to carry
the torch the way that perhaps and let me looked
at you back in the day, or you know what,
who you're looking at now, who's gonna help bring metal
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into the future.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I mean, we've been always trying to bring some of
the younger bands with us on tour. You know. We
we had war Bringer with us in America on tour.
We had the Spanish some Spanish thrashes with us on
tour here in Europe and Crisis, and we always try
(15:22):
to bring some bands that are you know, the new ship,
you know. But yeah, because I know it's very difficult
for a thrash band to tour. You know, thrash is
not the taste of the month, it's more the underground
and and for the young thrash bands, they many of
them tour relentless. They on tour all the time, and
(15:42):
they in their little van. They you know, they they
do tough touring schedules. And when we can bring young bands,
it's always a pleasure, you know, and it's inspiring for
me because I also have to compete with the young
with the young fellows, you know. And also I see
myself how it was when I was at that age,
you know, you know, so it's great to see that
(16:02):
the torch is moving on. You know, the young generation
is there, because for a couple of years it didn't
look so good for thrash. Remember end of end of
nineties was difficult. Everybody was playing melodic death metal and
and and and black metal, and there was no thrash bands.
But now there's a lot of young, young bands actually,
(16:23):
and sometimes I just go on YouTube and check the
young bands. I'm like, wow, so much good shit coming out.
So it's just difficult to get signed for them because
you know, the labels, the the assigned metal core and
they assigned pagan medal and design what's the trend of
the month, you know. But but for thrash band it's
harder to get signed.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, they're out there. We just gotta find them, We
gotta look, and you know that's the beauty of you know,
we talk about the double edged sort of social media
in the Internet, but that's how you know. You can
get discovered now and you never know what's what's the
comment It doesn't matter Sometimes I'll label doesn't matter, but
I want to keep I don't want to keep you
here forever. But you may have noticed the theme. I
(17:07):
have some posters in my backgrounds and I know it's
we talked about Appetite for Destruction. This is just we
have the destruction here. We play like a six degrees
of gene or Bacon here. So other than having that
word in common with the band, I mean, this may be.
This may never just came into my brain when Appetite
(17:27):
for Destruction came out. Was there any part of you
We're like.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh, actually, you weren't toured Motorhead and Phil Campbell, Phil
Campbell from Morahead came on October. I said, we just
toured with those guys in America, checked them out and
you played played Guns N' Roses for them the first album.
It wasn't out in Europe yet, and I was like,
this sounds like Aerosmith, you know, and at that time,
(17:53):
nobody knew that band, and nobody knew they would ever
make such a career, you know, So I would always
forget the first time Guns and Roses from Phil Campbell
from Motorhead introducing them to me, and I was like, yeah,
it sounds good, but it sounds like Aarythmas. It's nothing
new because especially Day was the repeating of rock and roll,
but in a fantastic way, and appetite for destructionists in
(18:15):
the album that has no fillers, just killers. Right, it's like,
what the songwriting monster this album is in the end
now twenty something, twenty nine years later, no more than that,
thirty something years later.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, it's going to be the band. This is what's cool.
It just goes to show you how time fast goes.
The band is going to be celebrating their fortieth year
because they started in nineteen eighty five, but the record
didn't come out until eighty seven, eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, but Europe came out eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Actually yeah, Well it took like a year for it
to blow up, and they.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Actually I remember that in Europe it was really slow
and they were already starting to get big in America
before Europe recognized it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, the UK if the story I've heard is that
they blew up because all because of Alan Niven, who's
from you know, more familiar with that area, the old
great White manager, and they managed gene r at the beginning.
They had to go to the UK first to get
big there and then come back to America. It wasn't
like it was a slow build.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
The biggest in the UK first before they were big
in America.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's the way the legend goes.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, it's like the Scorpions. They were big in Japan
first before they went big in Germany, and then they
went to America did the big tours, and then they
came back and then they were huge in Germany because yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And them, I mean, I know they had to put
it on pause because because Mickey D. Mikey D. Mickey D.
He's uh yeah, Mickey he's having some health issues. But
sixty years for that band.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And they're doing their their final tour since ten years already.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So right, that was like did they do this right
in the final to.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Start and then like oh we don't want to stop
fuck this, you know, So it's long. I love to
see that. You know, those bands they don't have to
play anymore, but they can't stop because it's the dedication
from music they love for music is just too big,
you know. I don't think they would need the money
to still play, you know, they just they can't stop
because I always say, what should they do gardening? After
(20:19):
after all? You know, I mean nothing against gardening though, but.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm sure you relate. You probably see that and you'll
be like, I'm like, I now, I could do that
for sixty years.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So I mean, you know, as long as your health,
you know, the traveling and the challenge, and you know,
it's it's nice to see the world, you know it.
You become a different person when you travel a lot,
you know. So I saw that when COVID hit. I
mean you had to sit home for almost two years.
It was a difficult time for a musician, you know. Yeah,
(20:50):
so you appreciate, I think, but that you appreciate the
tour unless you get old and you don't want to
be on the road anymore. That happens too, I guess,
you know. But I think being on the road there's
a big gift seeing all the countries and the cultures
and that that is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Of course, we're the tour plans for destruction.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
We're actually coming to America for some shows around the
Milwaukee Metalfest. We will play a handful of shows, selected
shows around the Metalfest, and then we're going to come
back to Europe for the festivals and tour Europe in autumn,
and then the plan is to come back for an
American tour end of the year or early next year.
(21:28):
So we see how that goes. We don't know if
we're going to get the visas with the new administration.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
No, oh no, that's all good luck.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Thank you. Yeah, we're hopeful.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Still well assuming, I mean, I can't wait. You know,
I'm sure it all work out. But just congratulations Shmeir
forty one, forty two years, keep going hit break the
Scorpions record, and I hope we get to do this again.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Thank you very much. Hopefully's here in New York. Uh,
We're definitely going to play in New York and May.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So you know, I here's a little question because the
usually before we get out of here. I asked because
I have my son. He'll be two in April and
we're just starting to take him the concerts I mean, unfortunately,
my wife has only taken him to date Matthews. I'm
not a date Matthews fan.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
A little bit early for real death metal shows and stuff,
so that's what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I mean, he has headphones, so I mean, I don't
know if do you have kids, when's the first time
you took them to a death metal show, like when I.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Have not I have no kids, but my brother has kids,
and he brought his son with headphones to our big
festival appearance at the Summer Breeze Festival in Germany when
he was also two years old, so I remember that.
And and now he came again. Now he's like eight
or so, and he came again, and he wanted to
(22:52):
have a shirt and everything, and you know, he was
totally into it, but he didn't remember much from the
from his first show I think it was.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But I don't know if he likes it again at
eight years old, maybe he got into a system his blood.
So that's that's good advice.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Too early, right, It's never too early.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Never too early, all right?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Protection that's important.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he's he's already got that.
Even for Dave Matthews, which is like listening to a
mouse play a guitar.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know, you know, learning how important live music is
a great thing, you know. I think going to concerts
and appreciating musicians playing real music lives. That's yeah, that's
something too early to learn that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Oh yeah, that's something I can't wait, you know, for
the summer shows and whatever. It's another conversation for another time.
I have him. Sometimes he's here as my co host.
He can say, you know, words here and there. But
I can't wait to start taking into shows and do
concert reviews. I'm getting ahead of myself anyway, Schmier, thank
you for your time, and again I hope we get
(23:51):
to do this again.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Thank you. Pleasure, big pleasure, great talk.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Here's the middle never fails, mister Mailstone. I haven't done
this segment and a bit a lot of this segments
because I got to play a blues clues sound bites
and uh also get to talk to you. So this
(24:16):
is if you sent me a DM on any of
the social media's email the a FD Show at gmail
dot com. You know, sometimes it's a comment that catches
my eyes. But these are the ones I'm gonna read
right now. Are all from Instagram, So if you're not
following there, I encourage you to do so because I guys,
I always say the conversation continues in between the broadcasts,
(24:38):
so this is how it continues, and now I'm bringing
it to the broadcast. So uh, first one, this is
from Craig. Hello. I just found your podcast about a
month or so ago, and I've been going through and
listening to all the direct related guns interviews such as
Gilby and Teddy and Roberta. I'm enjoying hearing stories from them.
(25:00):
I was an Appetite for Destruction era guy. I remember
seeing the video of Jungle on MTV in late eighty seven.
At first, I was like, what the crap is that
lol axel with the teased hair slash you couldn't see
his face, and I thought, Nope, not for me. Then
I heard Sweet Child in the radio and I liked
the song, but I didn't know who it was untild
they said it was the new song from Guns of Roses.
(25:22):
I was like, wait, wait a minute, there's no way
it could be the same band from the video. So
I was intrigued. I went to kmart and bought the
Appetite on cassette and didn't stop listening to that album
for the longest time. My father had passed in May
of eighty eight, so being an angry kid, Guns became
what you might call an outlet for me. I was
(25:43):
a super fan, So I told him, thanks for reaching out,
and I appreciate the story. And I'm gonna say the
same thing here, which I just did. I do appreciate
that story because that's something I can't experience. I don't
know what it was like when Guns and Roses came out.
I was way too young. I was, you know, I
was born in eighty three, so I was I mean,
(26:06):
I was four. I don't think my parents were playing
me Guns of Roses when I was four. I know,
you know, my wife and I try to play a
lot of rock and roll for baby Brownstone, but none
of that's really sticking right now. He he loves listening
to the ABC's so alessant. Guns of Roses comes out
(26:27):
with an ABC an alphabet cover. I don't know if
he's gonna really appreciate Guns of Roses for quite a bit.
So I like hearing stories from those of you who
were around at that time, and it's very it's interesting.
They're like oh Jungle, what is this? And Sweet Child,
which is what really broke the band. It's been documented
(26:47):
it was Alan Kniven's decision to you know, get that
video made and when Jungle wasn't We all know the story.
It was a two am time slot that Tom Zutang
beg four and you know, it was just like a
lot of different people behind the scenes, other people that
were not just from the band themselves. As my phone
(27:08):
just drops off the desk, that's fine, it's I'll attend.
It's live radio, so I'm not gonna edit that out.
So it's just we all know the stories, but just
to hear it from you, a fan just like me
who's a little bit older, very very cool, and you know,
I know it was a long time ago, but I'm
sorry about your dad. You know, as i'm recording this,
(27:28):
it's my dad's Yesterday would have been my dad's birthday.
I think you would have been seventy one. It's just crazy,
which is still young. So it never goes away. I'm
sure it hasn't gone away from you a few Craig,
So I appreciate that story and I'm glad that you've
you found this. Let me look at this. I say
this all the time that no matter how many years
(27:49):
this podcast has been going, for the many years Actual
and Slash have been reunited, still getting new messages, just
like from Craig who discovered the podcast. So actually, let's
read another one. Somebody who just found it. Oh, last
year he found it. This is from Anthony. Hey, I
found your show September because of the interview with Aaron
(28:14):
North of Aaron North, of course former nine inch Nails.
I just wanted to say that your interview is gold,
and not only that, you have a manner and approach
that is rare and deeply human. That was really cool.
I've never witnessed someone actually listening, bringing positive energy and
asking laser sharp questions and just building information and understanding.
(28:38):
You're a great interviewer on a Terry Gross level, and
I'm glad I found your show. Not even a GNR
fan historically, but maybe I'm about to be. Keep up
the great work. Sorry to hear about how you got
railroaded on that book you discussed with Aaron. Looking forward
to enjoying your work for years to come in any form.
(28:58):
I'm telling you this message, I mean, just like Craigs,
this meant a lot to me. Just was kind of
not expecting it out of nowhere, you know, because I
love all the positive messages I get from you, the
loyal listener, but from people who just find me. And
I'm very real. So I'm not going to pretend that
(29:19):
I'm embarrassed that I should have known who Terry Gross was.
I'm just not an NPR listener. I'm a sports radio listener.
It has nothing to do with the politics or anything
like that. I mean, I have listened to NPR. I've
worked on conservative radio. That's it's just kind of you
(29:39):
work where you work, or you listen to what's on
the radio sometimes, and just I love because I love
radio and I like how to hear people approach it
sometimes regardless of the format. So looking her up, I mean,
that's quite the compliment. Your Your compliment was so intelligent.
I didn't even understand it. So I guess that goes
(30:01):
to your point of deeply human and rare because today
more than ever, because I was telling my wife yesterday,
you know, I remember I understand like I think because
I'm forty one born in eighty three, I'm technically a millennial.
I refuse that label because I'm like the border of
(30:21):
gen X and millennial because I remember what it's not,
what it's like not to have computers, what it's like
not to have cell phones. But when you're growing up
with people on the radio like the Howard Sterns and
the Shock Shocks and now and people on TikTok and yeah,
it's it's broad in the horizon, so you see all
sorts of personalities, but it's so much of just like,
(30:43):
listen to me, I know everything. Listen to me my voice,
I got it all figured out. It's I don't have
it figured out. And I got to be honest with that.
You know, my insecurities I've tried to hide for the
longest time to try to better my life to you know,
especially when it came to two girls the funding A girl,
Now I just let a ride. I'm like, these are
(31:05):
my insecurities. I'm in a good place in my life,
so I really don't care. I don't let them overtake
me the way they used to. So that's, I assume
is the deeply human part you're talking about. I try
to bring and yeah, I want to listen. Because I
mentioned Howard Stern, he doesn't listen it's like he answers
(31:26):
for his guests. He's such an overrated interviewer. I mean,
he's obviously a legend in radio, and I have respect
for him and to a degree, but you know, you
watch his interviews now, he just like tells somebody the
story and expects them to kind of just piggyback off it,
just like let them talk. My issue is, which I admit,
no one said this to me, but I admit, is
(31:47):
that I feel like my setup, my setups are too long.
But sometimes I feel it requires it, Like the context
needs to be set in a certain way for certain conversations,
and the guest isn't going to do that. I get
to do that. So anyway, Ladier are sharp questions, I
(32:08):
am flattered. I don't really I used to write out questions.
Now it's on my brain because I will get distracted
if I'm reading stuff on a page. I mean I'll
even get distracted if I'm just looking through notes. I
gotta be. I gotta be in the conversation. I have
to be Otherwise I'm gonna lose it. I'm gonna sound
like an idiot. I want to be. If you remember
that scene from Wayne's World, too with Harry Sheer when
(32:32):
he was Handsome Dan and they were promoting what was it,
a Wayne Stock and he's like, yeah, he's putting all
the tape decks away. He's like, you're not even listening
to anything I say. I could say you're a freak
with a microphone and he's like, yeah, okay, Yeah. So
I don't want to be that guy. So anyway, and
(32:54):
with the book, I'll get into more of that later
on with the Proper Guest as we approach five h
I'll tease it with that. But given where I am
now in life, it happened for the best. It did.
I learned a lot. It just really turned me off
from ever wanting to be to reach a certain level
(33:15):
where there's just too many cooks in the kitchen who
just want something else out of it. Quick buck whose
opinion is garbage. I mean, it's what happens with bands, movies.
I'm just not good in that role. I don't I
don't like people with egos. I don't like being people
being fake And it's it's this is less about Doug,
(33:36):
then it's it's more about It's it's more about the
guy at the end of the marketing company. They just
kind of I felt that fed me a load of bullshit. Oh,
I want you to send me something that I can
approve and let's go forward. I really want you to
send me that, but I'm just not seeing it. Fuck
you dude. It just stop. I'll never forget. I read
(33:58):
reading his one of his proved books. So the leader
Ford autobiography, in one entire paragraph, every sentence started with
the word I. You learn that shit in high school.
You don't have back to back sentences rarely start with
the same word. Just let it load an entire paragraphs,
So stop. Stop. He just wanted somebody who can get
(34:21):
him a quick buck. Anyway, I digress. So anyway, thank
you Alan, excuse me, thank you Alan, Thank you Anthony.
That yeah, for many years to come in any form,
so continue. As you can see, I'm focusing more on
the video form than the audio form. I mean, of
course the audio podcasts are still coming out, but just
(34:42):
focusing a lot on them on social media and YouTube
and yeah, welcome aboard my man. Uh and this one
I thought was really cool and I don't think I
would have mispronounce your name, but I apologize if I
do rust him Okay, so he is from bomb India, Like, whoa,
(35:04):
I'm a big fan of your podcast. I play music
for special needs kids and adults. A lot of the
songs that play are guns or Roses songs, especially patients
and Sweet Child of the Mind. Good work, keep up
the good work. And he sent me a couple of
videos of one of his special needs students jamming out
the patients and it was super sweet. It was super sweet.
(35:26):
So I mean, that's just incredible. It shows a couple
of things there. The Hey, this is rust them, you're
a good person. I have one of my teacher friends
teaches special needs, and I think maybe a couple of
my friends do. And it's just a special kind of
person who does that. But it shows the power of music.
It shows the power of this music, guns and Roses,
(35:49):
and I guess maybe it shows the power of podcasting
because you could just rust them. You could just like
like the entire world Sweet Child of Mind and remember
the lyrics. But the fact that you listen to this,
and I've said this before, this English speaking podcast, and
I am only assuming that English is in your first language.
If I'm wrong, forgive me, And that you listen and
(36:12):
you get something out of it. I mean that means
a lot. So just just just thank you to uh
to rust him, Craig and Anthony, and I wouldn't be
me if I didn't call at least one person out.
This is just funny. So I thank you for all
the wonderful feedback I've been getting for the Todd Kerns interview,
(36:32):
and just thank you to Todd for he's one of
my favorite guests, just like a super nice guy. You know,
it's so hard I just to do a short episode.
I don't know if you've noticed. I've been trying to
do shorter interviews, like maybe like half an hour as
opposed to like as I as I pull up my
YouTube right now, I because that's what YouTube prefers. I mean,
(36:56):
I'm not Joe Rogan, so not many people want to
watch a three hour interview, not that I did many
of those, but unless it's a major guest, I really
try to keep it to a half an hour. I
mean times of major guests, but I've had them on before.
I'm like, let's do it. Half an hour. Easily did
an hour, and I knew we were gonna go for
a bit. We're gonna have a lot to talk about.
(37:18):
I think we spoke for like twenty minutes before I
even hit record, just to get it all out. So,
I mean, just a wonderful conversation, wonderful feedback except for
this one person. There's always one guy, and it's un
fucking believable. I gotta I'm actually now I have to
scroll through all the positive comments to get to this
(37:40):
uh one negative one. It is okay right here from
Keith on YouTube. Great interview until the cat discussion. Oh sorry,
Keith that I wanted to talk about my cat that
just died. That like was like my first son to me.
(38:05):
You ass, you jackass? I mean for real, I mean
I'm talking about I'm not just saying like, hey, can
we talk about cats by myself for like ten minutes.
It's what made Todd excited for the interview because he's
a big cat guy as well. And to incorporate it
within my theme talking about slashes, cats, axles cats, to
(38:27):
understand what it's like when you're on the road when
you have cats, to make it part of just the
grand discussion. And my cats have been part of the
podcast as I've been doing this for so long, you know,
as starting out as a single guide. Then all of
a sudden, I have cats in the background when I
start doing this on Zoom during the pandemic, and they
become part of the show. So it was a big deal.
(38:49):
So and it was at the end of this interview
that was almost over an hour long, that this person
had a problem with it, this person, Keith. There's always
one like, you're such a loser who has a problem
with that, Even if you're not a cat guy. That
wasn't your favorite to go out of your way and
make that comment. You gotta be a loser. You got
(39:11):
to like in your life there's something missing, and I
hope you find whatever that is. It's like that same
person I still remember that thinks like I do stuff
with Harrison Baby Brownstone for clicks. I do it because
I love my son and it's fun as hell to
do this stuff with him. Like I don't know, I mean,
people were like, oh cute baby click, oh cat click, cool,
(39:34):
But I'm not shoving them on the camera like some
parents do. And that's actually what I was talking about
with my wife last night. I'm like, we could man
if I had the time, or if I was a
bad parent, and like sitting like editing TikTok videos because
Harrison's so funny and like trying to do different things
with him. But I'm like, no, now, I just let me.
(39:54):
He's experience this life and live it. So God forbid.
If I hold to him for a little bit of
an episode, go for a bit. If I talk about
my cat they just died for a few minutes at
the end of an episode, God forbid. She's like this,
it's it's And then again this brings up because there's
always just there's always one, and it's unfortunate because that's
(40:16):
what sticks out. And it's not just for me. It's
a lot. You hear this from celebrities, you hear this
from people, and I'm fortunate enough to be in a
place where I'm not letting it overtake me. I'm just
flabbergasted that these are people that exist and are allowed
to live adult lives, that that person there was a
person who criticized Axles, like vocals, like calling him like
(40:38):
a loser, all these things like it has been. I
always thought that term has been is kind of hilarious
because that means you were successful, and it has been
is just a term for somebody who's trying to put
somebody who's successful down to make yourself feel better. That's
all it was. Because you don't call somebody a has
been unless you were. It never was. And when you
(41:00):
think about it, we're all something to somebody. So it's
just people just have this hate for celebrity and it's
just it's it's kind of sad. I mean, I find
myself guilty of it at times. I mean, but more
and so when I was younger and really just you
look at celebrities as like these untouchable things. And as
I've been doing these interviews, it's I'm telling you this podcast,
(41:23):
it's really helped me mature and that that kind of
understanding of what it means to be, not that I'm
a celebrity, looking at it talking to rock stars and
seeing how human they are, and it doesn't matter how
much money they are and how many people know who
they are. It's we're all fucking human, We're all gonna die,
we all feel things. So this person shitting on axel
(41:48):
And I always find it funny when an adult writes
like and this is no because we're all an adult,
you can write lol, that's fine. But when you're an
adult that writes lols. Come on, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Like?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Why are you texting like you're, you know, a teenager lols?
So sometimes maybe i'm too. If you don't know my personality,
the way I respond on on social media could be
be like what so I was just like it's and
this guy was commenting from his own music page. I
didn't even listen to it. I'm like better than your
(42:25):
nothing music lols. And I just put a bunch of
different letters after it that were just nonsensical, just to
make fun of his lols. And the guy got so
upset he called me a cripple. Can you believe that
this wasn't even a listener. This is somebody who I
guess looked into it to find to say. And he's like, oh,
this guy's handicapped. What's the worst word I can call him?
(42:45):
And I was like, obviously, I'll leave this up here,
so maybe your employer will get you fired. Good job.
The guy eventually apologized to me privately, and it just
to end it, I was like, yeah, no worries, but
just think about it. These are there are people who
have problems with Those are the things you would think
(43:05):
that you wouldn't. There's a lot of things to make
fun of me for or criticize me about, but you
wouldn't think because of my disability, because of my child
or my dead cat. Yet people exist fucking crazy. You know.
I'm gonna read you one more to show you good people,
(43:27):
and there are good people out there. This isn't lucas short,
but sweet Hi. I would like to support you on Patreon,
but it does not accept crypto. You accept bitcoin donations.
I haven't told my brother about this yet, who's probably
gonna flip out because one of my brothers is so
into bitcoin, so into bitcoin. I mean maybe now if
(43:53):
I get more you know, suggestions like this, but it
brings up the opportunity for me to bring up if
you would like to support this page. If you would
like to support this crippled father with a dead cat Patreon,
just go on aftpod dot com. There's a lot of
(44:14):
different ways you could support. I actually just made it
active on Facebook. You could subscribe, be a subscriber. I
think it's like a small monthly donation just to help out.
I'm working on doing that on Instagram as well, just
to help out. There are things that I would like
to invest into the podcast. I want a better webcam.
(44:36):
I would like a microphone, an extended microphone stand, not
just like this. You know, this one kind of gets
propped up. I would like want that moves, maybe gets
like a different mic, maybe like a headphone I can
kind of move around a little bit, but a different
camera to begin with. I guess I'm using my regular
laptop camera, which is the best. So there are things
(44:57):
I would like to invest back into the podcasts. When
Harrison starts talking more, he he I don't know if
you saw my tweet, he can officially. I mean, this
is a big time in parenthood. He can say poo
poos and peepees. That's huge. So when he can start
saying axel and slash, I mean, he's gonna be my
co host a lot. I want to get a second microphone.
(45:20):
I would love to get a second a second camera,
maybe to look back at his play place when I'm
over here. So there's a lot of things I would
love to invest back into the podcast. But right now,
all money I make is goes to paying bills and
whatever I can save for Harrison's future, whatever I can
(45:40):
I can scrape by to do that, So Anyway, the
best supporter is just the messages I've been getting and
being able to do this for years and interview my
rock heroes, all because you've given me a platform. So
thank you. That does it for this episode of Appetite
for Distortion. We'll do more, mister Malestone in the future. Again,
(46:02):
the conversation continues in between the broadcast. That's how you
find out about future guests. That's how you can ask questions.
You can maybe be a guest co host if you're like, ooh,
this person's my favorite. I really know a lot about
this person. Brando, like, what time are you doing this?
Maybe I'm around I can guest co host. You could, Yes,
that's the thing that you can do. So just just
(46:23):
let me know Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, not next whatever you
want to call it. Follow on YouTube again podcast, I mean,
the new website is afdpod dot com. So when we
see the next episode in the words of Axo Roads
concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it. Thanks to the lame asked security.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
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