Big Chris Flores talks Lynch Mob and "Crazy" from Slash with Chester Bennington | Ep. 428

Producer Big Chris Flores returns to discuss his work on the new Lynch Mob with George Lynch. Also, Chris shares the full unreleased demo of the song "Crazy" featuring Slash with the late Chester Bennington. This episode is the ONLY place to hear this lost track. Hear the backstories, the songs, and much more!

Songs included with permission:
1) Lynch Mob - "Million Miles Away" @ 00:16:08
2) Slash, Chester Bennington, Dug Pinnick, Matt Starr - "Crazy" @ 01:11:04

More info:
http://www.therehabstudio.com/
https://rocktorecovery.org/
https://www.instagram.com/bigchrisflores/
https://linktr.ee/appetitefordistortion We miss you, Chester.

Episode Transcript

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You know what yes is Appetite forDistortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite for

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Distortion, Episode number four hundred andtwenty eight. My name is Brando.
Welcome to the podcast again, misterBig Chris Flores. How are you,
sir? I'm good, Brando.Good to see you again. Man,
it's been a while. It hasbeen a while. I think the Actually,
I shouldn't say. I think Idid bring it up because I don't
remember what episode I'm doing. Wespoke a couple of years ago episode two

(00:57):
sixty seven. Wow, two hundredepisodes ago. Almost wow. I spoke
to your some more recently, Iguess because he was on with uh yeah,
no, with Noah Wiland. Yeah. Man, they doing some good
stuff. Man. Their videos comingout really good. No, he's doing
some really good writing. Had himin here and did a few songs with

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him, so got some like poppunk thing going on. He's he's really
he's coming up. Man, he'sgonna he's gonna be hitting the scene hard.
Great kids, great kids. Ican't wait to see. It's so
funny because I'm I'm only forty.I guess I know you're I don't know
you're forty let's say you're forty one, you know, I know, and
I'm fifty three. I know.I was trying to be nice to hear.

(01:37):
Yeah there man, but they're they'reyounger, and I guess I have
the older brother thing with them.And I think I told him that.
And I just can't wait to seewhat they grow up to become. You
know, would my son being twentyone years old, you know that whole
era, I've watched him grow upand just all the music that's going through
his through his pot, through hisstereo, and I mean, and I'm

(01:59):
just like, wow, how dothey do that? How do they do
that? And I'm just staring.So I've learned a lot of production style
from these from these young, youngerproducers. Man, he's on my son
and now there al he's telling me, Hey, that's good. Yeah,
you should listen to something like this, you know. So I learned a
lot from the kids. I willsay this and shout out to Sage.
You gave me Sage advice on YouTubewith creating those shorts, those sixty second

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videos night and day. What thathas done for my pages and my attention
and it's just man, wow,wow. So anyway, this is going
to be a big, big episodewith Big Chris. If you want to
go back and learn about his story, his journey, I highly recommend going
back to episode to sixty seven.But here we're going to talk about two

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specific projects that you worked on comingup later. I mean, if you
read it in the bio, I'msure by the time I'm putting this out,
I've already announced it on social media. Because last time you gave us
a clip of an unreleased song withChester Bennington and Slash, one minute of
the song crazy, and we learnedand you told us that I think Chester

(03:07):
was tied to Lincoln Park at thetime, so they didn't want him on
Slash his album at that time.And yeah, a lot of stuff going
down, and then that would eventuallybecome Doctor Alibi with with Lemmy, so
completely different. H Wait, youwere going through I don't even know how
you found it. You were goingthrough your files and you're like you forgot

(03:28):
about it, right, Yeah,yeah it was. I mean we did
it in twenty thirteen, Slash,you know, we were we had just
got done scoring a movie and Slashsays, you want to go on and
start doing the album, and Iwas like, of course, of course.
So so he came just laid downthese all these all these tracks,

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and Chester came up. He's like, I'm gonna have Chester come over and
and and and do a demo.And I was like cool. So he
came over, he did put inabout an hour there and tracked the demo
and left and next thing you know, he's like, oh man, we
can't use it. And I waslike what, he can't use it?
So yeah, because they were doingtheir albums. So so we end up

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having to scratch his shelve that andthen it got kind of just lost in
the matrix all those years. AndI was going through a few years ago
looking just getting rid of files thatI didn't need, and I came across
demo Fast number fifteen and I waslike, wow, what was that one?
And I clicked on it and Iwas like open it up and there
there was and I was like fuck, dude. So I called I'm like
Slash, dude, you remember thisone? And I played it over the

(04:38):
phone and he's like oh wow.And I was like, dude, can
we should reproduce this? Man?And he's like, hey, just chill
out, relax, relaxed. Letme let me get a hold of his
wife and me send it over toher, and so telling we sent it
over to Tylna, and she justwanted to release it as it was,
which was just me playing the drumson the keyboards and Slash playing the bass,
and so you know, I waslike, no, please a little

(05:02):
while reproducing it a little bit,you know, program drums again and Meat
playing bass. But still nothing everhappened with it, just sat there for
another year and a half, andso I was like, well, let
me just get some live drums andsome lives, some real bass player on
it and at least finish it.So I ended up sending the track to

(05:23):
Matt Starr, drummer he does Aerosmithand mister Big, and he was perfect
for it, so I sent itto him. He laid his drums on
it, he killed it, andhe knew Doug Pinnock, so he sent
Doug the track and Doug from Kingz X correct and he killed it.
Man, he's got a killer tone, killer base. So yeah, it

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just came. It just came together. And now I've been sitting on it
for another year and a half andso now what thirteen ten years? Wow,
it is and just curious because I'mnormally terrible dates, so I'm not
one to the question because you hadto do was twenty thirteen? Didn't slash
the solo album come out in twentyten? Correct? Never mind? Hold

(06:09):
on, yeah it was twenty ten. It was to twenty ten that we
did it. Oh yes, okay, terrible. So yeah, I'm terrible
because I'm lucky into what date isso cold shocked? But I think as
I've just been so focused on thatalbum, so I know it's twenty ten.
They can agree from twenty three andadded over there to that. Gotcha.

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So we're going to debut and thisis gonna be the only place you
can hear it is on this podcastat the end of the episode. And
if you're not a listener of thispodcast, you'd be like, shut up
already, I want to hear thesong. I put a timestamp at the
bottom for that song so you canlisten to it. Then I highly recommend
you come back to the conversation wetalk more about it, and again we

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we're gonna go into lynch Mob.We're gonna have an insane conversation about uh,
just how the song came to beand why we're releasing it this way,
and just talk fondly of Chester,who we both miss dearly. I
know you knew personally for me justas a fan, he had a tremendous
impact in my life, so we'llget into that. And also just because

(07:14):
it's I'm a very active person onsocial media, I always say the conversation
continues in between the broadcasts, soI'd be remiss if I didn't mention it.
I'm not gonna go into detail withit. This is a conversation for
another podcast. But Guns and Rosesbeing sued by their ex photographer Cat for
copyright infringement and sexual harassments. ToGenr's manager Fernando, it's gonna, I

(07:38):
guess, go to court. We'llsee what happens. I'm just gonna leave
it to the courts. You know. I don't want to go into any
opinion or speculation right now. Thisis not the time. But I just
want to acknowledge I'm aware of it. I'm aware of it, so we'll
save that for a future conversation.Any who, Let's go because what was
great is when you reached out tome. Because even though it's been a

(07:59):
few year since you've been on thepodcast. You're one of those guests that
I've become. I enjoy having tohave some sort of relationship after even though
it's a primarily Instagram. We seeeach other, you inbox, me saying
you love seeing my kid. Youtalk about your grandson. I love that.
So we've had some sort of conversationsin between, so it's it's been

(08:20):
nice and they're pretty much the sameage, aren't which hell it is your
son, Harrison Rex. Baby Brownstonewill be seven months I think next week
and like a week and a half, so he's like six and a half
months basically. Yeah, mine ninemonths. Grayson Everett I live up to
we have. Those are two solidnames, Grayson Everett and Harrison Rex.

(08:45):
WHOA, they're gonna be in aband together, tell me about it.
That's destiny And perhaps we'll get anappearance from Baby Brownstone later on in the
You're gonna get an ans from Babybrown I'm gonna get Everett. You know.
It's great though I was making thevideo, or I should say,
the person who makes my video introand my graphics. Everything that just looks

(09:07):
so frigging awesome and inspired is irislife. My friend g from Scotland,
who is just a listener of thepodcast. And we've another someone else I've
become friendly with over the years,over over the interwebs. Yeah, you
had to get a guitar, okay, so I could take over, don't
worry. So this is great.Big Chris gets guitars delivered to him with

(09:31):
Badass in his hab studios. Look, he just kind of in the guitar
off the air. That's so awesome. Yes, what kind of guitar is
that? It's a sawtooth guitar.They're they're they're American maid and obviously it
looks like a Less Paul. Yeah, but it's definitely got its own tone
and it's fucking great. Man.I love tried all these guitar they got

(09:54):
some really cool guitarists, but Itried this one and for the sound that
I needed for this one song thatI I'm doing, this was the one.
So they they just set it upfor me and sent it on down.
Yes, Badass. I love thathad some guitars either, so they're
definitely solid, they stay in tune, they just they sound great. And

(10:18):
that was it for that little promo. I love that. I love that
organic thing that just happened. That'sawesome. That's what this podcast is,
man. I love that. Andjust that you were handed off the air
like a total TV moment. Ifucking love that so much. So the
the graphics for the podcast, theintro video, and the poster for Crazy

(10:39):
made My Ma My made by mybuddy iowas life, and so I just
make sure I want to give himacknowledgment as well in case if I forget,
so just think because we're all excited. So I was making a video
that you're going to watch at theend of this with that poster, and
there's an audio way whatever and it'splaying loudly and baby Brownstone Harrison is this

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there, and then he's smiling withthis two bottom teeth. He's like,
I love it because the top onesare growing in a little bit now,
but these two bottom teeth are thebest. Yeah, And then they try
to show you their teeth every timethey laugh and open up their mouth.
I love kids, love kids,man. It's I feel like I'm the
last person on the planet to havea kid. So this is a it's

(11:22):
such a new experience and I lovethat I'm able to incorporate it into this
kind of stuff and having people kindof grow up with me and uh grow
up with him, and putting himin G and R onesies. Anyway,
I digress. What we'll talk aboutplenty of well got G and I onesies.
I got to get him. Hishair isn't a natural mohawk, so
I can give him the Misfits hair. I got to get him like a

(11:46):
Danzigg or a Misfits onesie to makethe outfit complete. Yeah, my call
my grandsaded, my little Einstein.Because the wind blows just right. His
hair, just all of it.I love it. And here's my my
terror segue. Speaking of hair,George Lynch has some great hair. I
actually asked him when I had himon the I had him on the podcast

(12:07):
a while ago. I tried toget him on again. I don't know.
I think he just got lost intothe ether of my email. He's
all over I mean, especially rightnow with the album and his little and
his tours and yeah, no worriesfeatures and all that. He's just yeah,
yeah, no worries. I mean, he was super nice and he
didn't have a ton of g inour stories. So I'm like, okay,

(12:28):
you know, if I get him, great, if not next time,
whatever, But I remember specifically becauseI mean maybe because I'm looking at
you. I'm I've hair envy still. You know, I've adapted the ball
look. I wish I could fourinches. What's that? I just like,
I just chopped like four inches offthe other day. I haven't.
I haven't cut my hair, andin literally two years, it just didn't

(12:50):
grow anymore. So I was justlike it, I don't need to cut.
Oh that's funny. So I justwanted to because you can give it
out any names. That wasn't lookingfor any names. It's something I look
at as I age, as weall age, these aging rock stars,
and some of them try to looklike they're still twenty and hold on to
certain things and whatever makes you happy. But you know, if you need

(13:13):
to wear a wig, whatever youneed to do, fine. But George
is such a luxury, luxurious headof hair. Anyway, that's my terrible
segue into into talking about Lynch Mob. Let's talk about his hair a little
more. Yeah, how did youI guess first connect with George, because
what's really cool? You know,let's play this first before we go into

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the full Lynch mop in conversation withtheir their new album came out what in
August, I believe, right,yes, Babylon, right, Babylon.
It's the first one. And thisis a song you're giving us that is
only available on the Japan release.Correct. And what's cool is what's interesting

(13:56):
is if you don't know, becauseI found this out through former Gen R
manager Doug gold scene about why theydo that in Japan. I was wondering
that team. It's something to dowith it's cheaper to buy an American CD.
There did something in house, likesomething local, so they give you

(14:16):
an extra track to try to getyou to buy something from Japan rather than
ordering out, you know, gettingthe US version of another country. So
it's an extra incentive to buy theirversion of it makes sense, saw money,
Yeah, And that's why it cameup with the live era, the

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double CD Live Era for Guns andRoses. I had coma I believe,
on only the Japanese version, butnot on the version that I have,
you know, the American version,And why you know, I guess that's
why. So you've given me theprivilege of another song I got to to
play here, which we're gonna domillion miles away in a coup anything you

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want to say before we play it. That's just my favorite song. It's
the you know, it was theit's the most modern song, the most
modern style production on the album andprobably for any Lynch Mob or any George
Lynch type of song, you know, because it's once again going back to
my son's era of music, youknow, when basically the stuff that my

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son listens to. If you evenlook at an instrument, you're doing the
song wrong, you know what Imean. It's like everything's done with the
pencil on the keyboard on the mac. Everything's done you know, with your
with your with with the piano keyboardand drawing it in and the effects and
the reverbs that are used, theyget cut and blown up and over,

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you know, just saturated and thencut down. So there's a lot of
cool, cool effects that go onin the song that are all this.
So it's just a real real modernproduction right on. So without almost modern
lynch Mob, almost too mych andfor Lynch Mob, but it got them.
But it just sounds so good.Well I dig it. I think
the rest of you will too.So million miles away from Lynch Mob,

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I have seen much better day nowthey've gone too far away love the way
seems like I have lost my way? Would I use my mind to day?

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Doesn't mad? What if I sayI'm lying? What if I say
I'm dryer? All the same?It's all the same. I'm a pond

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plier way the way? Man ifI reach call you tone? Who did

(18:03):
guy me to the live origin O? What if I say I'm drying?
What if I say I'm drying?All the same? Is it billion?

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Way million, somewhere way? Olliab in it? I love it because

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when you say acoustic, you don'tknow what to expect. But that was
a fully like It's not what Iexpected from Lynch Mob. I actually kind
of like it more more so,you know, when you were explaining how
your your son approaches music and someonelike you who's been in the industry for
a while, who's worked with somany different artists like Rihanna and obviously Slash
and how does that make you feel? Do you feel because we saw you

(21:26):
just get a guitar off air,you know, does that make you feel
like the progress is being made oryou're kind of being I don't know,
are you being phased out the oldschool or is it just like evolution how
do you how do you look atit? Well, I feel like modern
rock is hardly it's not even closeto like a lot of the stuff I'm
listening to is now Like I'm like, that's modern, that's rock. You

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know. It's like it's very electronic, it's very programmed even you know,
guitars are cut up and and soyou know, and then the rock back
from you know, Lynch Mob.Everybody's in the room together, everybody's jamming,
making mistakes together, playing parts.So it's just a whole other,
a whole other style of a wholeother you know. It's just you don't

(22:10):
get that anymore, like most ofthe stuff these days, for instance,
a million miles away in particular,it's George was here tracking on my guitar
here for twenty minutes, twenty minutes. I so like, here, play
sixteen bars of that. They playsixteen bars of that, play sixteen bars
of that, and then I hadthe sixteen bar you know, about eight

(22:32):
tracks of sixteen bars of George playingstuff, you know, and then I
think, go get lunch, youknow, and he left the studio and
I just arranged the parts and doa verse, you know, chorus bridge
in all these little sections and andthen just made the song out of that
and kind of let him to comein and just do a lead sections over

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that, and then just kind ofstack everything and puzzle it together. So
it's just a whole other, completelya complete way of producing music. And
it's a pretty taxing on the producerbecause these days, you know, you
know, when you have the bandin the studio, you give everything at
one point to the producer and theproducers there kind of helping them produce the

(23:15):
album. Today it's all post production, you know, most like the drummer
will send you his drums, bassplayer sends you his bass parts, line
them up. You got to lineup everything into the session and then you
got to figure out put endings onthe songs, and you know, everything's
just all discombobulated. So it takesa lot. It's a pretty tacking on

(23:37):
the producer, you know. Sothe styles and is just completely different.
It really begs the kind of anexistential question to you know, what is
music in what you prefer? Becausea lot of us, you know,
I guess I say, also isthe rock fan, maybe the older rock
fan likes that, Like what Slashdid for his last album going there,

(24:00):
jamming out flaws and all let's go. Yeah, that's live pretty much right
and then mixed, Yeah exactly.But they're just the way music is today,
as you mentioned, and that's what'spopular today, whether it's rock,
whatever genre, it's after the fact. And it's so interesting just coming from
radio, just thinking that kind ofskill set was used to make the radio

(24:22):
jingles or to you know this audio. Now, my bell is ringing,
but that's not a guitar. That'sprobably Amazon or diapers, Baby brown Stone
sleeping. Can you get the doorright? I'll leave it in. It's
but if it sounds good, itsounds good. But since this is a
Gen R theme podcast, it's kindof like what they've been putting out recently

(24:47):
where it has been this kind ofFrankenstein slash did this stuff? Did this?
Axle? Did this X amount ofyears ago? Maybe some new stuff
here and let's put it together.It doesn't sound like it's made in the
studio, but it can still soundgreat. Sound it sounds like a song.
It's just it's just a different mindset. It's a different plan of attack

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to make music. And I guessit's just preference. Do you so do
you have a preference because I knowwhat you're going. I'd love to be
in the same room getting the wholeband, you know, especially when there's
something like this, like million milesaway. The two versions of it are
pretty are pretty modern and very hardto pull off live, you know,
because it's such a produced sound,you know, Like I find myself like

(25:29):
back in the day, like withDavid Lee Roth and Steve Vy were together,
I found myself literally staring at mystereo going, how the fuck did
Steve do that? Like, whatthe hell is going on here? It's
so crazy? And now I dothe same thing, but I'm like,
what is that reverse effect? Whatis that reverb that there is? You
know, how did they just dothat drop? You know what I mean?
And it's just it's it's a wholenew world, man. I mean,

(25:51):
I do most of my productions onthe on a laptop, and it's
and it's you know, back inthe day, man, you needed to
spend you needed fifty grand, onehundred grand for the studio to get your
album recorded. And that's what youknow, George Lynch Mob, that's what
the that's what they've been used tofor so long. But George doesn't get
big budgets for his albums, sohe cuts a lot of corners and sends

(26:15):
it to you know, tries toget it done as you know, least
expensive as possible. So it kindof gets taxing on the producer because he's
got to make ends. Connect.Yeah, it's it's it's on the producer.
And here's my idea, and I'mlike, okay, cool, So
let me fix these notes, letme put an ending on the song,

(26:37):
let me fix the drum fills,let me replace the drums because the drums
are recorded in my in his bedroom. Let me. You know, it's
just like you can't. There's somuch shit that needs to be done to
get an old school rock band thatrecorded in their own environments to sound like
it was recorded in a studio.You know, it is taxing the unsung

(27:02):
hero of the producer, and juston just a lower level, I get
that as a radio producer, whereyou might deal with a certain host that
want something to sound a certain way, or hey, can you add this
and do this, Like no,you can do it doesn't sound right,
or that doesn't you can't physically dothat with audio or certain things. That
does a disconnect. But at thesame time, like what you mentioned,

(27:25):
I have my own ways, andyou know, this whole podcast venture has
been very new to me coming fromFM radio, so there are things I
take from old school radio. ButI'll look at the kids coming up now
and be like, wow, that'sactually a really good idea on how to
do that, and I'm learning.So I think you have the right perspective
to look at both ends, andI think whatever the situation calls for,

(27:51):
that's what you do. At theend of the day, though no one
knows how it was recorded, theyjust say, oh, this sucks.
What a shitty producer, This isamazing, What a great fucking producer,
you know what I mean, Butno one knows it. I mean,
like from what we started out withto how it ended up on the album,
I'm four hundred hours later, youknow, I'm was I was like

(28:12):
all Christmas, all Thanksgiving, youknow, my family's doing shit, all
planning, going places. I'm like, this shit's got to be turned in,
you know, you know, Butyou know, at the end of
the day, when you've got thisand then you end up with that,
regardless of how the end result is, it was million miles away from what

(28:33):
I started out with and it wasand I'm real happy with the way it
came out, you know, oh, absolutely getting great reviews. And I
love thank you for sharing the songbecause I didn't when I heard the album,
I obviously didn't hear that one,so this was like, okay,
so thank you big Chris for twosongs for this same ah. Thank you.
Just because I don't always put musicinto the podcast because sometimes it's you

(28:57):
never know what you can use.But I'd like to think if the producer
is telling me I can use it, it's cut all right, you know,
feel free to say whatever you wantor don't want to say. I
recently had on Don Dwkin, thegreat great Don Dawkin, and it's so
funny. He's so honest and justthere's no beating around the bush. And

(29:18):
I asked him the question kind ofthe comparing and obviously gen R Todwkin and
the lineup changes and you know,and him owning the name and how he
deals with that, and he kindof just went off. He's like,
you know, with George, Ijust needed a guitar player at the time,
and like we never got along fromthe first day. There was an

(29:40):
interview he did with a Chuck shootwhere he said they probably would have been
famous earlier if they hired Warren ArtieMartini instead of George like crazy, like
Jesus Wow, way to really goup and end. So I'm just curious
if you're the experience of working withGeorge Lynch. I did watch that don

(30:00):
that docin interview, and I gottasay I agree with a lot of stuff
he said. I mean, Okay, I worked. I did. I
did produce George's instrumental album, Guitarsat the End of the World. That's
how I'm actually I met him.I met George because I've worked on one

(30:21):
song for this band in New Jerseyand Terry Eluse, the singer from x
y Z, he introduced me toto George, and so we did that
one song and George said, hey, can you you know, want to
do this, this instrumental album.And so I spent a you know,
a few months working on that albumwith George. And you know, George

(30:42):
is a really nice guy man.You know, he's funny, he's kind
of witty, funny. You know, his wife was really nice, and
you know, we got along reallygood, and you know, and he'd
say you know, I'd come upwith really cool ideas for him every now
and then, because he doesn't reallyknow what he's doing when he starts down
to write. I mean, ifhe's got his little his little chalkboard and

(31:04):
he's like, what I would dofor both albums is pretty much the same.
I would he'd send me a bunchof songs that he really liked,
and I'd just go through them andI'd be like, okay, so I'd
programmed some drum beats here in mystudio, just so we've had something to
start working from when we went overto when I went over to his studio.
And then sometimes it would just beoff the cuff and he would just

(31:26):
start jamming and I'd play the keythe drums while he's jamming, and we
just kind of come up with littleparts. But you know, and it
went really it was quick. Youknow. You know, he doesn't really
put too much thought into what he'sdoing. He just does it and hey,
it sounded good. Hey did yourecord that? Thank God? Because
I'm not going to do that oneagain. And it went well, you
know, we got along really goodas as we got back. Let me

(31:52):
just say, as we got tothe end of the Lynch Mob album.
I was when I saw the dockinthing and I was like, yeah,
this guy, George, George isan interesting person. He's got a selective
memory. Okay, okay, becauseI really ain't got nothing more to say,

(32:12):
Okay, okay, fair enough atthis point I might come back okay,
fair enough, fair enough. Andthis is I know, a tricky
question, but I think it willgo into our conversation about you know,
Chester and everything we talk about.Uh, that George had mentioned that he
didn't he was thinking about not usingthe Lynch Mob name anymore because of the

(32:36):
racial racial tones, and people canfeel free to whatever your opinion of his
opinion is of you know, fallingto the quote unquote woke mob or PC
mob or him just showing understanding andappreciation of it and just realizing it's a
different time. Do you have anythoughts on that on the name, because
it's his name, it's it's notexactly I mean, listen, I'm a

(32:58):
I'm a Jewish Mexican, I'm aJeck Mexican or I mean, I'm not
racist by any means. And youknow, what's the past is the past.
Obviously, people are still hurting fromthe past and people dwell on that
and people are like, oh mygod, that's so wrong, you know,
but that's the dude's last name,all right, So he put mob

(33:19):
it's a fucking cool name. Youknow. Who gives a shit what people
think? You know what I mean, I can't. I have a hard
time not commenting on certain posts whatpeople talking about that shit. I'm just
like, there's two things. There'stwo things that bug me that we're in

(33:40):
life, and that's people going toofar into the history and bringing it back
when we know we're at a differenttime. And religion that can't. I
can't. I'm spiritual. I believein God, you know, I still

(34:00):
I have my own relationship. Idon't need to listen to a Christian.
I don't need to listen to theJews. I don't need to listen to
Muslims. I don't need to listento Hindu's. I don't need any of
it. I mean, if it'sall the same thing, honestly, I
I as you know, I'm Jewish. You know it's Jewish. Although I'm
like, I'm a terrible Jew.I'm like a Jerry Seinfeld Jew. I'm

(34:21):
like not practicing him, just allthe stereotypes, but I just believe that
everyone we're all human. The sonis going to explode one day, We're
all going to be gone. Likeit's we're just all the same species,
and none of us, I feel, really know the answer. We're just
here trying to enjoy this life we'vebeen giving, assuming we're not in the

(34:45):
matrix, you know. So Ithat's how I am. And if people
want to believe, I have friendsthat are religious and different, you know,
different sects, and that's that's great, you know, I have no
problem with that. I'm certainly notgonna tell anybody what to believe or not
to believe, you know. Justbe a good person. That's I think
at the end of the day,is just be a good person. All
the same thing. Man, it'sall humans trying to explain what no one

(35:07):
really can can explain, you know. Yeah, yeah, and it's I
think it's it's great for us totalk about that's part of the human experience.
Let's talk about it. That's that'sthat's good, you know. And
this also lends itself, and Iguess I hate the fact that I have
to mention this, but I knowthere will also because you mentioned comments that
sometimes are just make you go ah, because I've had to put up disclaimers

(35:31):
on videos where Dave Navarro is talkingabout the losses of Chester and Chris Cortenell,
and I get these comments about conspiracytheories. Look, I know I
and I'm gonna on this briefly becauseI want to call attention to it,
but I just get too many commentson it to know that it's gonna be

(35:53):
out there. If I see anycomments about the conspiracy theory, I'm going
to delete them. Not because I'mpart of the conspiracy. But this is
not the time or the place.We are here to celebrate the life of
Chester Bennington with this song release,and that's we wanted out there to hear

(36:14):
his voice, to hear his lyricsagain was kind of healing to me because
here's the connection why I feel likeI maybe I take it too personally.
I don't know. I think I'vespoken to you about this. I mean,
I saw the rumors. I itcrossed my mind, you know what
I mean, But I don't knowenough to even go either way. You

(36:34):
know what I mean. Well,here's the thing. Let's just say you
want to go into it and nowlet's just say for argument's sake, and
had legs, you know again,time and place and as someone Okay,
here's the comparison as somebody who's owndad, like as Chester and Chris Cornells
have children, right, my dadhad children. My dad committed suicide the

(36:55):
same way as Chris and Chester tenyears ago. It's been ten years to
show you where your life can goin ten years. Where not only was
he he lost his life from depression. Ten years ago, I was suicidal.
Now I'm married with a kid.Couldn't be happier. So many things
can happen in ten years, likeit's crazy. So that's what I want
to focus on. And I rememberonce it was maybe a few maybe a

(37:22):
month after my dad died whatever.And my dad was a dentist, not
a public figure, not gonna havearticles written about him, none of that.
It was like on some you knowreview thing for his dental practice on
just Google whatever. I don't knowwhy I was this cooogling stuff about my
dad. And I saw somebody comment, how can I leave a review for
a dead guy? And you know, perhaps if that was like in a

(37:45):
South Park episode or a Simpson's upand there was a joke. I have
a weird sense of humor, soI can appreciate the weird senses of humor.
But that obviously triggered me. Itreally made me angry. So Chester's
I've seen his children like, don'tit's upsets them what They lost their data
in a horrific way, whatever wayyou want to believe. You believe that

(38:06):
happened, good for you, Buttheir children are still alive. There are
people still suffering from that loss andwill continue to suffer from that loss for
the rest of their lives. Sothe comments, all you're doing is just
fueling that the morning process. Ifyou have any information, you know,

(38:28):
go to the police, go tothe government. If you think you're so
smart, do that. So anyway, I feel like I forgive me.
I hate that I needed to saythis. I I hate, but I
know I'm gonna get those comments andI'm going to delete them. So I'm
doing this as a you know,pre I'm doing this in advance. Instead
of me just randomly deleting them peoplewondering where their comments went, or me

(38:52):
putting out my own comments, letme say within the conversation, so you
know why, you know, Iso maybe I'm taking it too personally because
I lost my dad the same way. Maybe I am, so fuck me,
just don't do it. I'm goingto delete them. AnyWho, anything,
anything else you want to get outabout Linchman before we make the complete
transition to the Chester slash convo.Oh no, just to you know.

(39:15):
The whole album process was was great. It was great working with everybody.
You know, Jared Jelino, thebass player, he was He has really
bionic ears, and he was Hewas crucial to my QC. You know,
because after a mixing and doing stuffand you know, my ears you
were just shot. He's like,you know, there's a pop at one
minute two seconds, there's another littleclip at one minute and thirty six secs.

(39:38):
And he would go through everything.Like by the time I had all
these songs almost like ready to master, I literally had to go back into
the songs a good five or sixtimes because the dude just kept hearing things
and I was like, really,dude, and he's like, I was
like, tell me the exact time, right, go back and I'm like,
sure enough, there's a little clipright there, and I was like,

(39:59):
damn. So he was crucial inthe in the you see, and
you know, it was just apleasure working with with Gabe Cologne. He's
a he's a he's a he's gotsome heavy shoes to fill. You know,
everybody's talking about Onny and Mason andbut you know, Gabe's got his
own sound and and he's he's he'sa great singer. He's good for the

(40:20):
band. I think this is thelast Lynch mob, right is he's not
going to do it anymore. Maybemaybe maybe like like the last Kiss tour.
Yeah, we'll see, they'll dosomething. They're not gonna win away.
It may not be the final tour, but they're gonna do stuff that.

(40:40):
I mean, as long as Lynch'sgot his you know, got people
buying tickets to go see Lynch momand ain't their last show? Yeah,
I totally agree with that. Uh. Just just super cool. And congrats
on that that record. I knowyou were excited about it, and you
know, it just sounds great.It really sounds great. And oddly enough,

(41:00):
my favorite is the acoustic song thatyou're on. Thank you think.
I hope the old school fans likeit, you know, because you know
it's it's it's not produced, it'snot recorded the same way and not produced
the same way. It's, youknow, this different singer. You know,
he's not trying to fill anybody's shoes. He's just his own sound,
you know. And everybody's going tofind a comparison and try to bring it

(41:22):
back to the old school. Butyou know, it is what it is.
It's just it's it's the evolution ofthe band, you know sound,
you know, sure, absolutely,So let's make the full transition to the
Chester slash the song crazy Now ILove. We spoke about it at length

(41:42):
because you worked also with Fergie correct. Yeah, Yeah, it's funny because
you know, for that whole Iwas I, you know Slash. We
we had probably been working scoring thatmovie for it's called This Is Not a
Movie with Edward Furlong and you know, and and I think you can see
clips. I don't know what happenedwith the movie, but I feel like
I've seen it on two B Butanyway, so you know, we worked

(42:08):
on that one for about almost ayear and then we'll transitioned into the solo
into a solo album. And hewas just bringing he' drop Ferggy over to
my house. He brod Chester broughtevent sevenfol was the Shadows Shadow, you
know. So I had just allthese people coming over my house. Like

(42:29):
at one point, you know,we Slash would come over and we'd be
in the session and my wife wouldcome home from work and she'd walk into
the house. She'd be like,who the fuck is smoking am I?
Oh, hey, Slash friggy comeover. She's like and and she'd be

(42:52):
looking at her nails and I waslike, hey, my wife does nails,
and she's like, oh really.So she'd go into the living room
and they'd go have some tea andshe'd do her nails and come out.
I was like, just the coolestsetup. And then means Slash would go
take little breaks and go to VanEyes Boulevard, which is the Van Eyes
and Sherman Way, which is prettyslummy. I mean it's pretty ghetto.
You know. We just go eattacos. You know. He's like the

(43:13):
coolest. Slash is the coolest dude. Like he's so not famous, you
know what I mean. He's he'slike, he's just a very honest,
very he's genuine. You know,he is a guy, you know what
I mean. He likes to hangout, he loves the ghetto. He
loves tacos, the ghetto when hecome up. When he'd come you know,

(43:35):
you could you could see the hill, the Hollywood Hills, and you
can basically almost see where he livedfrom my old house, right. And
he'd come down to my house andhe'd walk in there, you know,
fucking major street going by there.It's just and and he got it.
I like, this place is yourwife home? And I'm like no,
he'd like, okay, cool.And the one time, one time we
were in a session, we tooka break and he came into the living

(43:59):
room and and he saw my son'sthe guitar, Hero guitar that was huge,
and he saw it there. Itwas all white, and so he
pulls out his marker from his jacketand he picks up the guitar and he
starts doing the skull and crossbones andthat fucking just going to town on it.
And my son, who was probablyeight at the time, walks out

(44:21):
and sees him doing it. He'slike, stop, what are you doing?
That's brand new. It's like,puts his pen back in, puts
the guitar back down, and myson spent like and my son literally he
spent probably about a week trying toclean it up, and I felt him.
I was like, you're gonna regretthat one day. Oh he probably

(44:43):
he does now right to this day, he's like, you piece of ship.
You've never made me? Keep thaton there. Oh wow, that's
too funny, man, those arethose are funny interactions with your family and
uh yeah, I love the storiesall that's that's brilliant. Uh So,
yeah, when you offered to giveme this song crazy, you know,

(45:06):
it just kind of came out ofleft field and it just reminds me of
just everything that I loved about Chester. I love his voice. I loved
his voice. Wow. Oh songis raw, you know what I mean.
It's like, you know what's what'scrazy is that this is I feel
like this is the song Guns andRoses fans want, you know. I

(45:28):
just I didn't produce it, youknow what I mean? I just want
it. It's a demo and Ireally just wanted to keep it the demo
as possible, have it sound asgood as possible, but keep it the
demo that it was, you know. Okay, So I guess so how
would it because they never completed it? So I guess how did you complete
it? Because you went in there, so I got okay, given the

(45:51):
technical terms of because I don't wantto say, hey, this is an
official new song and Slash Games andpermission to share this, but like,
how how to categorize it? Yeah? When I called Slash told him I
was doing the interview, and youknow, I think every every interview and
at least ten, at least tenor fifteen comments a month. Hey,

(46:14):
what's up with that video with thatsong? Hey, you guys are going
to release that song. I'm like, dude, I can't. I don't
know. It's not my song,you know, it's so just you know,
last minute when we were going towhen we when I found out we
were going to do this lynch mobthing, I said Slash, you know
all these people always asking me everyinterview it comes up and he's I was
like, do you mind if Iplay the song? And he's like,

(46:36):
he's like, I don't know,I don't care. And I texted him
a couple of the day yesterday justto make sure he's sure. It's everything's
cool. We're not gonna you know, and he's like, sure, go
ahead, So here we are,and you know, and you so back
in twenty ten, you know,Chester came in to do the demo.
He only did a verse, thechorus and a couple other little ad lib

(46:59):
things. And then when we foundout it wasn't he couldn't release it.
You know, it just got shelved. And that's when Lemmy came onto it
turned it into Doctor Alibi. Butthen it just sat there for a while,
and then of course, you knowterribly, you know, Chester committed
suicide and that was you know,the end of that. And then fast
forward another few years and I foundthe song again, but it had the

(47:22):
one verse and the chorus and someof his other little things, and so
I had to take his first verseand create a harmony on it and put
that on the second verse. Soit's basically how I finished the song.
You know, everything else was there, but you know, Slash on that
song. He I can picture himwith the cigarette hanging out of his mouth,

(47:44):
you know, the smoke, andyou know, it's just that's that
type of song, you know,and definitely old school g and our fans
I think are gonna I can't digit. Oh, I mean totally before
this podcast of me just being ina fan because Lincoln Park became popular,
maybe my last year high school,freshman year of college. Actually fortunate enough

(48:05):
to have seen them. It wassome one of them. I don't know.
It wasn't my first, it waslike my first. I went to
a lot of concerts in my firstcouple of years of college. It was
them, Cypress Hill and Edema atNassau Coliseum. Cypress Hill, my God,
be real because it comes out witha five foot bong on stage.
I love that man, Love thatman. Uh. But with Chester,

(48:27):
you know, I was thin.I guess go back down this route.
I was depressed before I knew Iwas depressed. I sound like a South
Park episode, but I really didn'tunderstand. I thought I was just being
emo or not getting the girl orwhatever it is. But there was so
much about Chester's lyrics that I identifiedwith, with breaking the habit or crawling,
crawling, or a lot of these. It was just the first singer

(48:52):
since like ax so I felt like, whoa, You're really getting what I
feel. And the rasp in hisvoice was like axels. So it was
just like this is a I don'tknow, this is like an axle for
my generation. That's how I felt. So when he left us a year
after Chris Cornell and then you know, after my dad and Robin Williams,

(49:15):
which was a year after my dad. I'm just like, man, the
hits keep comment. I'm like,am I going to survive this? Of
all these people who are supposed togive the rest of us hope. So
I think that's important to say becauseyou deal with a lot of rock stars
too. And I saw this commenton It's just some random troll and a
random metal side commented because Duff putout a new solo album. He's very

(49:40):
active about talking about mental health andhis anxiety issues and all that, and
this one comment was like, boo, who I wish I could have his
life, a millionaire traveling the worldwith his model wife. You don't get
it. You don't get it,and that's what upset me a lot.
You know it upsets me. Uhwell, I didn't get with my dad

(50:01):
at first why he was even depressed, Like, you have four kids,
you're a successful dentist. All.This is what Dave Navarro said. No
amount of money, fame, girl, anything is going to replace trauma.
None of that is so what Ithink what people need to understand. Still,
it doesn't matter. We're lucky thatSlash is still here. We're lucky

(50:22):
that a lot of these rock starsare still here. We've lost a ton,
but there are a lot more.You're right, he did he did
die once. I mean the wholeg and our crew. We are lucky
that all of them are alive.What I've learned by watching, you know,
I'm the late My studio used tobe called Mood Swing Records, and

(50:43):
then when I started working with Slash. You know, all of these people
like started, all these rockers theyeither had been in rehab or needed to
be in rehab, started coming here. So I changed my studio to the
Rehab and you know, and justlearning watching everybody that's come through here and
hanging out with these people. AndI've learned that you're lucky when money is

(51:05):
your only problem. You are absolutelylucky if money is your only problem,
because you know, these people livewith their own heads. You know,
it's not when they're here talking withpeople, when they're discussing, when they're
hanging out with friends, when they'rewriting songs, when they're producing something.
It's a whole other world than whenthey're driving in their car by themselves,
or whether they get home and theyclose the door and by themselves. You

(51:30):
know, there's a lot more thatgoes on than fame and fortune. That's
that's that's a certain time of day, you know what I mean. It's
such a lazy take. It reallyis. You know, the the highs
of being adored by millions, butsome you know, you can get imposter
syndrome, or when you go homeand you're just hitting that lull of us
all the quiet. It's it takesa lot on the human body. And

(51:53):
look, these I understand these peoplearen't going to war, but their war
going on inside our head. AndI'm if there's anything I take from the
time from when my dad passed tonow, because I've just noticed, specifically
since Robin Williams passed, because it'slike, whoa, he was the happiest
person on the planet. The entiremental health conversation has changed. You see

(52:17):
commercials for it, you see appsfor it. This stuff was not around
when my dad was around. It'snot so I'm glad the conversation has changed.
And now that now with the organizationrock to Recovery. You know,
first of all, there's like fiftythousand suicides a year, and of those
fifty thousand it's forty thousand of themare men, you know what I mean?

(52:39):
And you know so, but anyway, the Rock to Recovery is,
you know, it takes you know, these people, you know with drug
addiction, maybe with spinal injuries,just maybe people would just took depression,
and it puts them in a roomwith other people, other musicians and non
musicians that have the same problem,and they write songs. They create a

(53:04):
song together, and they take theirexperiences and they put them into the songs
and then they record the songs.That's what Rock to Recovery does. So
you know and and and and writingmusic and music you know, has the
same praise, the same endorphins andin your head as the drugs. Did
you know what I mean. It'sa little bit different, like a real
cigarette and a vape cigarette. Okay, whatever, you know, it's but

(53:25):
you get used to it and ithelps. Man, I agree, this
podcast has helped me. It startedout from depression, me trying to do
something creative and not just be inmy mind all the time and just do
work because I don't look at thisas work. This is what I love.
So this is this has helped me. I am assuming I think that's

(53:45):
why Slash always tours. I thinkit's because it's replacing his addiction. Right,
Yeah, he can't say that howI do. Yeah, he can't
stay at home once he's off tourwith this. He starts tour with that.
So I mean to you to putthat the energy into something that was
so negative and dangerous and scary,because something so positive and puts all this

(54:07):
wonderful vibes and the people all overthe world is just this. Slash could
do it. I think anybody coulddo it. Slash can do it.
Anyone can do it. That dudewas I heard her, you know.
Adler was was telling me a storyhow Slash was at his house once and
they were doing a bunch of heroinand watching porn and and uh, Adler

(54:31):
was walking back into the house andthe Slash was just in the shorts,
leaning against the wall on the floor, stabbing himself, trying to find a
vein, and he just picked himup. And he's like, when I
picked him up and we went intothe living room and we just finished watching
the porn. I mean, andthen you know, and then you know

(54:54):
Slash, I mean, he diedonce, you know, and his wife,
his friends would bring cigarettes and withhis leather jacket while he's in the
hospital some friends. Exactly. I'mjust saying, if I mean and now
I mean I watched, I mean, I watched him smoke his last cigarette,
you know, and put it out. He never did drugs again.

(55:15):
He never smoked again, he neverdrank again. I mean he's still I
mean, he's still an alcoholic drugaddict. He just doesn't do it anymore,
you know what I mean. Otherthings, you know, and he's
just, man, I'm a guy'san inspiration and at all levels, he
really is. I I really hopeI got the chance to speak with him
myself one of these days. Buthow is Chester as a person? He's

(55:39):
somebody that I just I will neverhave a chance, unfortunately, to speak
Chester other more than the couple ofhours we were together at my studio.
You know, he was a verynice guy obviously, but I don't I
didn't really go down that road orask any questions, you know, anything
as smart as like his vocal approach, anything interesting that. I can't believe

(56:04):
he's still got a voice. Ican't believe he had that voice, you
know, just screaming like that,do it? It's just so natural the
way it comes out, and itwas it was a pleasure watching him do
it, you know what I mean, And it just he didn't I thought
for sure he's gonna lose his voiceif the ended up that first verse,
but you know, any warm upsbecause I'm always reminded of the story that
another producer, Eric Valentine told aboutanother song on that album with Chris Cornell

(56:28):
Promise, and he's like, Chrisis like, this is gonna sound really
bad at first, and then he'she's got to like warm it up.
And then then he said when hegot to his where he wanted, the
place he wanted to be, hewas the loudest person he's ever recorded ever.
Right, So I'm I love hearingthat kind of stuff about how a
person just comes in and did heneed to warm up or he was just

(56:49):
like screaming right away Skester was writing, he wrote it right there. I
think it was pretty quick. Andwhen Chester writes, you know, I
mean, everything that comes out it'salways it's it's reality for him, you
know, it's not just a lyric, you know what I mean, especially
like on this on this song crazyyou Can, I mean, shit's going
down in his head, you knowwhat I mean. And it's and I

(57:12):
just I watched this one interview hebasically it's all his conversations with his bands
and all his demons in his ownmind. You know, he's left and
by himself, you know, makingthese problems way bigger than they should have
been in his own head, youknow what I mean, and not just
going for a lot of people,that happens. You know, you go
through all the problems in your headand it just keeps building in your head,

(57:34):
but you're not focused on the moment, which regardless of whether you got
the problem or not, you're gonnadie in some years, you know what
I mean, And you're gonna youknow everything, everybody goes through the same
shit. It's just some people justfocus too much and can't get out of
that, you know what I mean. That's taken a big It's taken a
lot of work for me to dothat. I think now with my son,

(57:57):
I've taken the opportunity being like,I got to live in the moment
now because everyone says how quick itgoes, I'm like, I gotta be
present. I don't want to thinkabout him in first grade yet or college
or any of that. I gotto be in the moment. And that
reminds me of one of the LincolnPark's last album and it kind of lends
itself to how he was still depressedthat the song heavy. That was a

(58:22):
single that a lot of fans didn'tlike it first because it wasn't typical Lincoln
Park. And I didn't at firsteither, But now I love this song
because I gave it the proper listenand man, just like he was speaking,
like he cracked open my head andhe's like, why is everything so
heavy? You know why? It'sjust I just felt everything he was saying

(58:43):
and his lyrics are like that.So to get this, I know you
had to do some Frankensteining, butjust to have this song out in the
ether and to be able to listento it and his voice and his lyrics
again, so thank you so muchfor being able to share it on this
podcast with us because we miss him. Man. Yeah. Thanks. Let
yeah, So any anything else thatany other projects that you have. There's

(59:08):
a movie called rock Bottom. Okay, it's awesome, it's finished. I
produced it was it twelve songs forthe movie and it's like this eighties band,
they go on tour. They gettheir big shot to open up for
the biggest group in the world,and they're backstage, you know, getting

(59:29):
the drummer and the bass player.One of those two get into a fight
just as the lead singer for theband that they're opening up for comes in
to wish them good luck, andthey swing and they accidentally hit the singer,
and so the singer gets in afight with them, and they get
kicked off the tour and they allgot to get real jobs for eighteen years,
and then they go back and formtogether and they formed the band.

(59:51):
So it's gonna be a real It'sone of those real it's gonna be a
really funny movie that's with what's hisname, Oh, it's good, Jake
bon Job. He's in it,Tom Tom Everett or Tom Everett's in it.
Yeah, it's his first movie.Oh okay, yeah, so he's

(01:00:12):
He's in it, Tom Everett,Tila Dunn, and the director, uh,
Todd Tucker. He is also thedrummer in the movie Great, Great,
It's gonna It's a really funny movie. And Terry Eluse from X y
Z along with Todd and Toshi Yanagi. He's the guitar player for the Tonight

(01:00:37):
Show or the no, not theTonight Show, what with Fallon or Jimmy
Kimmel Show. Okay, yeah,so and they wrote the songs. So
it's really it's tons of very musicoriented. It's eighties, it's kind of
it's just a great movie coming outhere in January. January. Okay,

(01:01:00):
that's awesome, very very very cool. Yeah. I didn't realize Jake bon
Jovi because he what is he he'suh? Is he married to now the
chick from a Stranger Things? Oror they are they're either getting married or
they are married. Mellie Bobby Brown. Yeah, she's not in it though,
right. No, I'm waiting forthe new Stranger Things. I'm excited

(01:01:22):
for that the last season. Yeah, so that's gonna be that's gonna be
really cool. I'm really excited aboutthat. No, that sounds I mean,
that sounds like my kind of movie, like coming of age rock story.
Oh you don't want to help meintroduce the song Baby Brownstone? Oh,
I can see as promised me.Here, buddy, give me here,
buddy. He's a big boy.What's up, little dude? He's

(01:01:45):
been this don this camera, he'sgot a shirt that says Daddy's Mini It's
up, little dude. I cansee how you'd have a little mohawk.
Yeah, look at that one.You can spike that up for Halloween,
did you? We did, Butwe tried. We tried to. We
actually got baby safe hair gel tospike it up. And it's funny.

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I go ahead, buddy, Sorry, Howard Stern. So babies love me.
It's when they turn about nine orten that I start getting weird.
I just can't wait for him toreally respond to more music other than the
male song from Blues Clues. Youknow. Oh man, I bring my

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I bring my grandson in here,and I just let him. I let
him make little beats and he justgoes he goes crazy. Did you get
I saw a commercial for this theother day. It looks like a Fisher
Price like DJ mixer, like whereit has the turntables, a little toy
microphone. And I saw a commercialof like a one year old playing with

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that. I got to get himwith us. Yeah, no, that's
good. Get him started, likethey got the pianos with the colors and
the numbers on him, and youjust start playing one, you know,
and then it start. It's reallyreally helpful. Yeah, so we'll see.
Uh, well, God's I'm sohappy to hold him right now.
Sorry, I got them. Yeah, his nickname is radio name is Baby

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Brownstone. I mean, because I'mBrandon Brando, right right. I mean,
Harrison Rex is a cool name.But I mean, if it's a
Guns of Roses team podcast, gottakeep it, gotta keep it, you
know, keep it, gotta keepit sleazy. And there are some people
that think I named him Brownstone.No, I did not name him after

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a housing project or heroin. No, I did not do that. Because
here's the thing, you know,where do you get us your son's name
Sage? Because I was not goingto name him Axel. I couldn't be
that brand. That's a good questionbecause okay, so one day before we
had a before we wait, beforewe had a kid, I met Sage
Stallone at I Hop in the SunsetBoulevard, and you know, we were

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talking a little bit. It wasyou know, totally you know, getting
down for about ten minutes, youknow, and then we went our ways.
And then about a month later,I walking into seven eleven in there,
I saw Sage Stalone there again andyou know, talking a little bit,
and then fast forward to about asix or seven or eight months later,
me and my wife were taking atrip to Philly to go visit my

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family and they're Sage Stallone on theplane right in front of us, and
we were like, holy shit,this is crazy. And then we were
in Philly for about a week anda half. We came back. There
Sage salone on the plane coming back. We were like, what the fuck.
Then that New Year's we were inVegas, millions of people. I'm
pulling on a slot machine and therehere I hear Chris. I turned around

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and that's Sag Stallone and the millionsof people that are there. And we
were like, if we ever havea son, we're gonna name him.
If we ever have a son ora daughter, we're gonna name him Sage.
And you know, it just camefrom there. That's funny. Us.
We met in the middle of aguns of roses in her favorite band,
Dave Man These on the Beatles.So after Harrison, George Harrison,
we got Harrison and what a shortname, yeah, Harrison. It wasn't

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until after the fact that we Iremembered Rex Harrison, the famous actor.
I don't know the old school daysof like My Fair Lady, you know,
the Clark Gable days. You know, I used to watch a lot
of I used to watch a lotof turn of classic movies with my grandma.
I used to watch all the Zones. That's about his old I got.
That's a that's the style that Iwatched Twilight, the Twilight Zones from

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back in the day. Okay,no, I I've seen Casablanca like four
times and Gone with the Winds.She my grandma had My grandma, I
can't believe I'm gonna say this,but she had like a hard on for
Clark Gable. So I'm shallow whenit comes to my movies. Oh it's
okay, well whatever. So yeah, that's where he got his name from.

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And that kind of lends itself tosegueing into the end of the episode
and playing crazy because here we arein twenty twenty three where we have a
new Beatles song, so new one. Yeah have you heard yet? Are
you this new? Do you mylittle world over here? Rough mixes or
I'm referencing something that I need tohear. Well, when you can listen

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to the New Beatles song now andthen, and it features all four members
and it was like an unfinished songfor from John And of course some AI
was used in some production thing,but it's all all four of them.
Uh and it's really sweet. Thevideo you see the current version of Ringo
and Paul playing alongside the older versionsof uh oh, that's cool. Yeah,

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yeah, that's it's it's it's sad, but it makes you feel good
at the same time. You know, if I had AI back when we
did, you know, before wefinished Crazy, maybe the second verse would
have been the move maybe. Butthis is what we got now. So
I mean, here twenty twenty three, we're gonna get a new slash Chester

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Bennington, Matt Star, Doug Pennicsong called Crazy. This is the only
place to hear it is on thispodcast. And you mentioned it before with
Rock to Recovery. Now, Iwanted to put this out. We wanted
to put this out, not justfor our own benefit. Hey, look
what Chris is working on. Hey, this is the appetite for the stortion.

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Look it's on this podcast. Iwant to do it right by Chester.
Oh, I'm sick and I thinkI got him sick or vice versa.
We're both coughing. So I'm gladI got through this episode without hacking
up along. But we wanted todo this episode right and this and do
right by Chester the song right.So we are partnering up with Rock to
Recovery and like, if you can, I mean, go check out Rock

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to Recovery. They're amazing. Imean you just see. I mean,
like I said, musicians, nonmusicians go there. You use music to
recover, you know, and it'sand when you come out on the other
side, you're you're, you're,you're much of You're a better person,
you know, and a wiser person. And frankly, wisdom is a bitche
to So I not this is youknow, something that Chester leaved in.

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And so it's not like I makemoney off YouTube, which is not a
lot. You make what I thinka dollar for every thousand views. So
whatever money we do make from thisepisode, I will absolutely give a large
portion of that to the charity.I mean, if it's something crazy amount
like well, we'll see, Iwould love to have it be I guess

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punt intended crazy amounts and then youknow, give the full amount. But
I don't really make much money offit. But that's whatever I can give,
Whatever you can give stream this episodethe song a bunch of times,
so we can donate in Chester's nameto rock to Recovery so or just to
rock to recovery. Check it out, and you know you can donate text
text doctor that as well. Eitherway, just uh, thank you.

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They got another show. They gotta, they gotta. There's a they're putting
on another big show in Hollywood Boulevard. I can't remember the name of the
theater, but there's lots of stuff. They're gonna be really good music.
I think that's August. Sometimes inAugust, I think August twenty third,
if you get on it, ifyou can check it out, August twenty

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third, Okay, I think BabyBrownstone has had enough. He wants to
eat the microphone. Do you wantto eat it? Everything goes in our
mouth. He's finally having some solidfoods, sweet potato and all that.
Oh you know what solid food means. That means them diapers are gonna get
a lot bigger. And it ain'tthe baby shit no more. Yeah,
we had an episode yesterday, didn'twe had an episode? Yeh got an

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explosion one of these days because Ikeep saying it, Yeah, it's a
shit on me. During an episode. But oh, man, it's gonna
be great TV. My son Oneday, my son was he must have
been about three years old, andI'm in the kitchen cleaning some dishes and
he brought this perfectly little round.I don't know. I thought it was
a cocoa puff and I was likerolling it in my finger. I was

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like, this is so interesting,said him in his mom. His mom
was a laugh and at me tryingto figure out what I had in my
hands. None of that. Ifeel like any gloves with this guy half
the time. But that's okay.Oh when I used I tweeted this out.
I ran out of towels for hiswipe up his formulas bit uh,
so I had to use my twothousand and two Chinese Democracy banner uh bandana

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rather and never thought I would usethat to clean up baby regurgitation. You
got it for something back then.Just good to figure out exactly life is
crazy. So with that said,going to end the episode with this guy.
He's won't stand it, so wecan end the episode again with Chester,
Bennington and Slag. He just pushedthe microphone away from me. Oh,

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you're gonna be a funny sidekick whenyou get older the net DJ.
Yeah, so so I enjoyed thesong. I've enjoyed it, enjoyed it
several times, enjoy it several times. Stream it please. It's the only
place to hear it is right hereon the Appetite for Distortion. When will
you see the next episode? Well, in the words of Acts Roads concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know assoon as the words, but you'll see

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it. Got. I'll tell nothingabout trying to sell me. Thats because

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I'm mons said sick cancer Cray.I'm gonna give Bob Tray. I gotta

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tell I nothing got my trying tosell me by myself thinks I'm once,
I've set up a batch. Wantbaby, I canna find some secuncern crays
that a look you cry, he'sa baby's I'm your father. You never

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say what looks cry? That wassunk trying lazy. That's an I'm I'm

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trying lazy. That's a