October 27, 2025 • 59 mins
Guns N' Roses recently performed for 2 massive crowds in Argentina. Let's welcome Argentinian fan, Agustín, who was there for Axl's mic throwing/drum kicking "tantrum" that went viral. What exactly happened and what should be the appropriate response? Agustín had his GN'R doubts going in but left with a difference perspective.
It's been a bit since the previous fan-review episode, so let's talk GN'R live in '25.
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It's been a bit since the previous fan-review episode, so let's talk GN'R live in '25.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He didn't the mic to the drum kids. He did
Keith the drum Kit later.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion. My Name is Brando,
Episode number five hundred and thirty eight. I was thinking
about naming this episode Augustine. Did I say that coast
very quest say your name before I'm gonna call you
my I'm going to bastardize it in my New York way,
(00:31):
and I apologize. I said it off the air. I said.
Our first review we did a couple of years ago.
You came on with our friend d' raphael. We did
a joint review of Argentina and Brazil, and I'm happy
to be doing a review again. And it's been a
long time. You You're like, I was just at those
shows in Argentina and this was before I think the
(00:52):
whole news world we're like, oh Axel's crazy again, and
that maybe like, oh wow, I really need to do
a fan review. So yes, thank you and thank you,
insert your name and say it the way it's meant
to be said before I screw it up. How do you?
I Wustin, You're getting closed? Okay, okay, there's so many
(01:16):
episodes of me mispronouncing things and screwing up, and it's
kind of par for the course of just you can
be professional. You could be doing this for as long
as you know. I've been doing this for over twenty years.
Not a GENR podcast. I mean, this has been GOT nine,
but Axel's been doing his thing for a long time.
And sometimes you have moments, so we're going to get
(01:39):
into that. So you there were two shows in Argentina right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, on Friday seventeen and Saturday eighteen. I couldn't make
it to the seventeen Friday show. I went to the
infamous Excels tans Frum show on Saturday eighteen.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Tantrum. My wife was laughing at me before I left
because I'm just reading the headlines even though at this
point we're recording. Gene R actually put out a statement
and we'll get to that. But Tantrum is such an
overweight throw a tantrum. I have a toddler, he throws
a tantrum. This is just somebody getting pissed for what anyway,
(02:22):
So I want to give a shout out to Also.
I just had his name. He has Guns N' Roses
Live era on Instagram and he was going to join us,
and I want to acknowledge because he and I respect
it because the fact that he speaks English to me
in DMS and you do the same thing to me.
I can't speak Spanish. I can't speak another language. I
(02:44):
was telling my wife earlier in high school, I had
to go after school to try to just to show
the teacher. I was trying, like I just it's my brain.
It's just not that intelligent to speak more than bad English.
You know, I can't do it. So he was a
little comfortable coming on, which I totally respect. Maybe we'll
be He'll be on in the Gonzale. So he has
(03:05):
a great guns Roses Instagram page. And before we get
into your story, he sent me his small review because
he also went to the show. Okay, so I'll just
read you his and I'll let you, uh you take
over as well. You can tell me if his review
is accurate, okay, because you're gonna We're gonna be honest here.
People think I'm just uh just trying to like blow
up Axel and puff them up and just be I'm
(03:28):
just being honest. And I'm actually using Axel as a
jumping off point to how society treats each other. So
you gotta be kind of smart to get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh, you don't have to blow anything up like she's
he's a legend, so.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He is. It's it's he doesn't need my defense or
anyone else's defense. Uh, I think it's just me just
like what I'm doing here on this podcast is doing
exactly that. This podcast, I happen to create a platform,
and I'm using the platform to talk. Uh, four other
Guns of Roses fans who are on social media who
(04:04):
are tired of seeing GNR lives, you know, not the album,
but the actual lies. So anyway, so Gonzala from my
Guns n' Roses live on Instagram and he writes another again,
this is I'm always gonna take fan reviews, people who
were there, who were there, not judging a clip online. Saturday,
(04:24):
the eighteenth show started later than planned, around nine to
twenty five pm compared to around eight to fifty. That's fine,
it's late in Guns of Roses world and nowadays, compared
to eight to fifty the night before. So he went
both days. He was lucky enough. It was noticeable that
something was holding the band up, since the stage was
always ready They opened with welcome, and then the problem occurred.
(04:48):
Axel communicated with his crew at least five times. Vanessa Santos,
who was standing next to him, seemed very worried and
had a face like what will Axel do? First, he
took off with in the Years, and he finished the
song by smashing the mic against the drums. The in
ear monitor was charged, was changed at least three times
(05:08):
up to Chinese Democracy. At what point I personally got
scared because Axel was gesturing to his crew as if
as if to say, see, I could screw up. I
just wanted to That's as if to say, uh, this
isn't If this isn't fixed, I'm not continuing. He didn't
say that. This is just how Gonzal he felt like.
(05:29):
I guess the aura Axel was giving off. Uh, this
is gonna be a challenge for me today. Uh, he
did end up saying. So. Axel addressed this immediately after,
this is going to be a challenge for me today.
This isn't mister Carpenter's fault. It's just that the percussion
is drilling into my head. Luckily, everything was resolved, and
(05:50):
he surprised us with an extraordinary performance. Yeah, would you
say his review is accurate.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yes, of course, Yeah, that's what happened, or very episode
of He didn't throw.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The mic to the drums itself. He threw it like
to the stairs, like it's the drums are there, the
stairs are just up just below. He didn't throw the
mic to the drum kids. He did kick the drum
kid later. I think it was at the end of
(06:27):
Pretty Tied Up. That was. Yeah, that was a bit disrespectful.
You can't keep the drum of your new guy the
mic was. I mean, all of the people that we
were there, we were excel excel, we were nuts. I
mean we've all known stories, we all seen videos, but
(06:51):
in modern days, he never did something like that. He's
like calm and shows some time and he's so cool
and well it was nice for me. It was nice
to see something like that. I mean I never got
scared of him going to stop the show or something
(07:14):
like that, because it didn't seem to be something that
couldn't be fixed. You know, probably twenty years ago you
maybe be afraid of finish the concert. So but it
was it was fun. I mean it was fun.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Other people sitting where are you sitting? Where are you.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't know how to say cowboy in the field
of the you had the stage and I was like
five majors on front.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Row too close.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, I was fighting for my life for some time.
You know. Here in Argentina, people are well you can
see in the videos. Yeah, I very we are very
passionate and like you are. There's like you have to
in three hours doing that. Man, it was it goes hard,
(08:09):
but it was fun. I mean, I couldn't go to
a show and be sit down on like I don't
know how to say the fucking grade of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I need to go the the nosebleed here.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, of course I need to go to there, like
that's where I said normally, yeah, but probably if I
lived in USA or other countries, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't mean to offense anyone, but people there it's
like super chill and calm, and it's the same to
be sit there and on the I don't know how
to say that the seats, but if people in the
field are not going crazy, it's the same if you're
there or up there. So here I need to go
(08:54):
to the to the craziness and it's something like you
can't explain if you don't know, if you don't leave it,
it's like you are hunging people you don't know, crying
with people you don't know. Whoa you hear that? Yeah, yeah,
it's like, I mean it's great, it's fucking great.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It looks fucking great, and honestly, it's a bucket list thing.
I mean I see these, you know, in a lot
of foreign countries, I say foreign countries, but uh in
Argentina obviously recently, and just seeing that, it's like a
wave of just humanity, yeah, enjoining together. So that's why
it's you know, it's so funny where all these these
(09:38):
videos of AXL coming out now and people controls are
just chomping at the bit. People are waiting to jump
on Axle for anything. A common one I would see
is who would see guns of roses rose now and
turn around, turn the camera around, look at the wave
of people two nights? How many? How many people does that?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know? The just let me check, but rout, I
think fifty thousand people. I mean that's probably. Yeah. I'm
pretty pretty cooled, you know, And it's you have to
mention here in Argentina, the economy are pretty pretty bad
(10:22):
and the tickets were way too expensive and it still
got sold out both nights.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, yeah, that said something.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So who would see accellent today? Well, there you go
one hundred just in Argentina.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, exactly, there you go. And there's something else. I
would always have to fight back with about ticket prices,
and I'm not going to defend ticket prices. But it's
not just guns or roses. I don't know, no, no,
I'm just I'm just telling people know that. It's just
like I know you know that, but it's just it's
just funny when people say that, you know. I actually,
(11:00):
because I haven't said it on the podcast yet, my
wife had to convinced me a little bit. But I'm
gonna see Paul McCartney next month in Pittsburgh. Okay, I've
never seen him before. Pittsburgh is like six seven hours
away from us. He's not coming to New York, at
least not yet. But the tickets we got three hundred
and fifty dollars each. I've never spent that much on
the ticket, and that is considered cheap. That's cheap. So
(11:24):
it's like, all right, I get to take my son.
I'm sure he won't remember it. But it'll be your
memory for me forever. So yeah, so it's it is cool,
and let me just address because I'm gonna, I mean,
it will come up again. But because you just mentioned
it about the drum kicking the drum, you know, let's
break it down. Let's break it down with Axel.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, so have you.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
When I first saw the video, right, I posted it
because I thought it was funny. And I'll give a
shout out to another follower listener with the mine of
a does gene our content? I think it's pronounced zero
or is it Saint zero? Saint zero eighty seven? And
he put together like a thirty second video of that
(12:07):
those moments, and Tom was well edited. Video showed everything
and it made me laugh. I'm like, okay, just like
you said before, showed the fire, the passions castle and
nothing happened, like the show didn't get canceled. I was like,
all right, cool, Like I get mad, too cool, And
(12:29):
I'm shocked, really shocked. I guess I shouldn't be. And
I'm naive that the way it was blown up about
a tantrum and getting upset and here we go again,
and look, there's a few things to say. So I understand.
You can get upset, you can take your ear monitor out,
and there's a way. Maybe you don't address it at
all and just move on. I don't know about you,
(12:52):
Agustine to say it okay, then I'm gonna keep asking
because it's thank you. Yeah, I don't know about you.
I have I don't know people. You may have noticed
I have a temper at times, but overall when you
interact with me, aren't I nice? I like to think
and approachable, But there are times they're not proud moments
you want to throw something, you want to hit something
(13:14):
like It's just it's the difference is are you hitting
a person or are you hitting like you should hit
a wall? I mean those are bad. I mean back
in the day, my dad didn't have like a crazy
rage problem. But like you know, punch the wall back
in the day. It's not a great memory, but it's
I've punched things. It's not a good thing. It's again
(13:35):
not it's just not a good thing. But however, on
the flip side, have you ever I told you about
like my like my equipment sometimes not working. Have you
ever hit something to make it work? This isn't working.
I've done it with my microphone.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, of course, just work. They say it's an idiot. Yeah,
and we don't have to be in front of like
fifty thousand people who pay to see that. Great.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So because we're not doing it. I'm doing these things
behind the scenes and not in front of thousands of people.
And you know what, those emotions take over. And here's
the thing. I think you will agree. Here's the it's
rock and roll. It's rock and roll. Yeah, this is
why rock it's good. Sorry good yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No. And so people who create his size and you
know all this bullshit, it's people who are who are
not there, Like the whole fucking stadium went nuts, and
we're happy seeing that. So that's what matters. It's not
like somebody or some people when like whoo no, no,
(14:45):
no at all. It was the exactly opposite. I mean
we were a fucking crazy like he's fucking nats A
Roads doing nts A Road things. I mean, it's like
the closest nineties acts a ros I I could witness.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So really, I try to be I'm an honest person.
I'm a terrible liar. You're just you're one sample of
every person that I've spoken to about because I'm so
fortunate with this podcast to be able to communicate with
people in other countries and talk to gonz Roses mans
around the world. Everyone that I've seen, this was one
(15:19):
of the best shows I've ever seen, Like I hear
that repeatedly, didn't you tell me that? Like how many
times have you seen Guns of Roses? And where does.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Since the reunion? I went to South then twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen, twenty twenty two, and this one, this was
my fourth. I've seen Excels Guns n' Roses New Guns
here before, but this like this since he shines, Slash
and daff back four the time was this one, And yeah,
(15:51):
maybe it was not better than the first one when
they reunited and came here because like the emotion and
the excitement of seeing them together and that at that
point actually had some power in his voice too. But
(16:11):
this time was like, first I had to say, they're
a different band. I've seen previous lineups with Frank, sorry
for Frank, but like Isaac is so great, you know,
it's like it's another band really, and the sound I
don't know, I it's just a different band. I mean,
(16:31):
you know, you had besides Melis and easy. You know,
there are like five guys. If you changed one with
one instrument so important, like the drums, you can notice
the difference. If you couldn't know the difference, they wouldn't
(16:51):
change the drum the drummer because why it sounds like
so much power now raur I mean, and you can
see the three of them at Slash Duff. They enjoy
more of the songs, you know, like there's something that
you can explain. It's just chemistry, you know. Musically, it
(17:14):
was the best time I've seen them, so it was great.
And besides, Accel's voice is not what it used to
be like in twenty sixteen. I don't know if he's
doing something like not rehearsing or vocal culture or whatever
he does. He looked he seemed like more prepared, you know,
(17:37):
like in twenty sixteen he had raps, but he went like, well,
I'm this and yeah yeah, and if it went wrong,
it went wrong, and if it went well when well
like this, he's like he's self aware of what he
can do, what he can do, when to hold the notes,
when to sustain, when to go for the high. You know,
(17:57):
it's like vocally like vocal wise technique. I think it
was the best time I've seen him, you know, And yeah,
I mean he you know this this joke of the
phone recording is not record the rasp and all that cheat.
That is funny, but kind of it's kind of true
(18:21):
at some point, you know, I can explain you have
to go to the show and here for yourself, because
it's it's real. You know, you hear things that in
the fucking video recording you can't hear. I don't say
he's seeing like he was nineteen ninety two or nineteen
eighty three. I don't say that, but he's sixty three
(18:41):
years old, and I don't know it's I'm thirty and
I went to the show three hours and I was
like two three days with back pain and my boys
shot and the guy is like twice of my age
and standing for three hours because that's an the thing,
you know. Yeah, the tickets are way high, but you
(19:05):
got that three hour show and not any other band
I've seen, and I've seen like a lot of fans,
including Metallica. I see DC, Red Hot, Chili Peper and
all the mainstream and like bands like that. None of
them play more than two hours.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like so.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It was a great show. You know, it had everything.
The band sounds great, they seem to like each other,
they seem to have fun. Actual was in a great
mood besides the the the fucking Mike and Brams events.
But yeah, it's kind of the one moment that maybe
(19:47):
he was a bit of was right after after after
Waldome to the Jungle, they couldn't fix the fucking inniar monitors,
so the show have to continue, and they did, like
I think one two songs without his his in ears,
and it was pretty sided up. I think he got
lost at some point of the song. Besides that, it
(20:09):
was a great fucking show. I mean. And people always
complain about the said list too. I seen four times
the band and they always changed the said lest you know,
this time I got to see Yeah, of course, this
time I got to see Bad Obsession, which I love,
(20:30):
and I have this fucking tattoo.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Nice Tattoos are listening on the audio version, it's just
a beautiful gun and roses.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, Bad Obsession. Obviously I knew they are playing this song,
so it was not surprise for me. But it was
so cool and you know, actual little Access, Little Boys
it's still so fucking cool. And this I said, he's
like he's doing something. I don't know what the hell
(20:59):
he's doing, Like he's practicing, like he's rehearsing, like I
don't know, But he's not out of air. He's not
out of red. He knows when to hold a node
when not to. I mean even I don't know. The
only one song that I didn't like so much because
(21:21):
I don't like the song either, it's no membrane. That
one was hard on his voice because he's not screaming
and he's not he he do what he cans with
that and maybe better what kind of the rest of
the song? So fucking cool man? And well I got
bad obsession that I haven't seen it before. Down on
(21:44):
the Farm that was great, and the general because the
last time they didn't it was not released before and
now maybe I'm forgot well pretty side out okay, like
they're changing the said is too. So it was a
great show. I mean, I don't have anything bad to
(22:05):
say about it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I am and the bad I would say, like the
quote bad things you're saying, You're you're given honest critiques
and that's cool, that's being real that's I want people
to understand. If you see, you know my I had
a whole diatribe, especially on Facebook, about how I think
we should criticize Axel, or if you criticize Axel and specifically,
(22:27):
and I'll address the mouse in the room because you
are coincidentally funnily, it is funny. You're wearing a Mickey
Mouse shirt right now. Yeah, I did not ask you
to wear it. I don't. You didn't wear it on
purpose either. You said you said no, no, yes, So yeah,
I mean Mickey Mouse liking Derek character. I have no
problem with Mickey Mouse. So it's the We've been listening
(22:49):
to the podcasts. You understand the analogy. You know, people
start talking about his voice and what it sounds like. Now,
listen to the way that we just discussed his voice
or a ghostin just to discuss his voice about are
you expecting thirty years ago? But it sounds close to it?
He's adjusting, doesn't sound that a breath? It's good on
(23:10):
this song. It's not a bad on that, but it's
not bad on that song. I'm getting flustered because I'm
so passionate about this. It's like I've wanted to record
this for a few days with you and get this out.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah. I was not expecting something.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I wasn't and it's I'm just using this platform and
it's it's very annoying. Where I don't want to use
the word annoying, I kind of I use the word losers.
You don't have to think, so you don't have to think.
So I think that if you if you hear that,
if you hear Axol a certain way, you're like, Okay,
I hear that. He sounds like this to me. Cool,
(23:45):
But I think what we're doing now, and good for you,
who did not use a cell phone at the concert
lived in the moment. It's the people who don't live
in the moment, the people who go online just to
post a Mickey gift on something that doesn't even have
to do with Axel, or just to you know, ship
on him because of like he threw a quote unquote tantrum.
(24:07):
I think you're a loser. I'm sorry. You may not
be a loser. You may think I'm a loser. Good
for you, I interview rock stars for fine. Think I'm
a loser. So what are you doing? And again I
said it before. There are fans out there who don't
have a platform like being and you're like insulting, you're
hurting their favorite band. It sounds so stupid, Like do
(24:27):
you like Taylor Swift? Like are you a fan? I'm not.
I'm like, I don't. I don't dislike her, just like
a song. I think I like one the song style
and that's about it. But I'm not gonna go online
and be like I hate her or she sucks or
she's like this, because think about it. Hey, I don't
really feel that way. But even if I did, Ah,
you're ruining You're ruining it. So see your live. I
(24:50):
don't even know what I'm talking about these things. I
could say, you know, or I can even use a
better closer argument. It's because it's radio this certain maybe
you were shows I don't like. I don't understand why
they're so successful, you know. And I'm talking like the
the Logan Pauls of the world people like are just
(25:11):
like super famous, Like I don't get it, or an
I show a Speed or even THEO Vaughn who has fans.
I don't. I'm not saying I should be. I can
never be famous. I couldn't handle it. But I just
don't understand. Okay, well here's this person doing this really
creative things. Cool? Why is that person super famous like that?
I don't even like what they do. But you know what,
maybe maybe twenty years ago, I might've been online, ten
(25:32):
years ago online be like you suck, you know what,
give it up. But when you say to Axel Rose,
quit give it up, when he's look at the joy
that he just gave you, and thousands of other people
in Argettina and I saw the same comments. This is
how sick it is. And I want people to know
this again, this is not some sort of Axl Rose
(25:54):
fixation for me. I'm using it because look it, the
appetite for distortion. Axels are jumping off point I go
on TikTok. I see it for Stevie f and Nix,
Stevie Nicks. People are comment have to comment retire this
that it's sick. I think it's sick that how we
treat some of our aging artists. And again, Axel, here
(26:16):
is the example. But I've just again, I've wanted to
get that out. There's so many I can chapter and
verse of different artists. And look at your own life, man,
whether if it's your dad, your grandfather. Maybe they don't
do something as well as they used to. It's all related.
You can't be for mental health, you can't be for
all we're in such a divided country the world and
then still be that person. Then you're opposer. So that's
(26:39):
that's how I feel. That's my little mini rants speaking
of Mickey and Minnie. That's my mini rants right there.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah. And he just for the last thing I want
to say about Axel and all this, because it's like
we're talking out all of Axl and another of the show.
But he he just he doesn't have to prove anything
to anyone, you know, I mean, he he's just part
of music history. And you know, if you see or
(27:10):
read or hear everyone on the music industry like great
musicians and great famous musicians all pretty Axel. You know, well,
he did fell In in a c DC, I mean,
the greatest band of the world. He did feelin for
(27:31):
the singer, I mean, Angus chose him. He like it
was a long ago, but he did the the greatest
queen songs on the Freddie America retribute, you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Know, Fringsteen, Tom Petty, Alton John.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I mean everyone respects him. So who cares what people
are in there that says, you know, right.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And it's not that I don't want people to know
that I care to a degree that I'm passionate about.
Just what I'm passionate about it, I would give the
same I give the same energy too, I'll get the
same like I just mentioned Stevie Nicks, I'll get the
same energy. And this is another thing that it's so
such a stupid criticism of Axel and it doesn't it's
not even relevant anymore. And that's his physical appearance, and
(28:14):
people still you see it, people calling him like fat.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, no he's not.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I say that he looks great. And even maybe
because you said you're thirty, maybe you'll experience it a
little bit later. A dad bod. Maybe he hit a
little bit of a dad bod. At times, I got
a dad bod. I don't want to lift up. I
mean it's like gets a fucking gives a ship, like
who cares. So it's the example is like I see
(28:44):
a lot as Nelly Fertado because she yeah, well she yeah,
I know, but she got but she does. She was
hot then and you know why she's hot now. Both
of both versions.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I got before you know, and I don't have so.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
No, so was because I asked because I always me
pronouncing your name is always.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
At somethings changed. What do they call you in Belado?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Pilato bold, So I will be Pilato. If I went
down you came.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
To Argentina, you will be you will be called pilato
or well not for uce. It's not for no no,
no no, No one goes you that. Yeah, no no,
but pla yes, okay, okay. And what what's the greatest
(29:40):
thing about the show? I guess it was it was
all good. Then I was like expecting less. In fact,
I wasn't going to do the show because first I
didn't have money, and then I was like, yeah, you know,
but the videos and I don't know when, but Isaacs
(30:04):
was one of the reasons that I wanted to go
because in videos you can see that the guy is
a beast. And on Friday night I was on social
media watching videos of the show and I was I
went sad, and my girlfriend saw me and she just
bought me the fucking ticket and was like, you're going tomorrow. Oh,
really great. So I wasn't expecting like this show. I mean,
(30:32):
they always deliver because they are gone and roses their
legends and but yeah, it was it was great. You know.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I like that. That's a that's an interesting thing because
you're you're representing a lot of people who watch. And
it's again, it's not for guspher Axel. This is now
for David Lee Rob this is even for Vince Neil,
who I'm gonna defend. You watch a clip online and
you get sad and like this, what happened to up boy?
(31:00):
You know, it's like, what happened to this this person?
They aged? And also it is not the experience that
if you go or and if you go, because there
are those people and I hate the fact that I
have TikTok. One day I want to make money off it.
We'll see me and Harrison will uh, we'll do some
we'll do I don't know. I'll make them do the
mister Brownstone dance when he can when he's three or whatever. Uh,
(31:26):
it's it's it's it's just again, it's just it's very frustrating.
I lost my what was I saying? I just lost
my train of thought. I guess I admit it. See
this happens during the show. People forget the lyrics. Oh yeah,
Davily Roth. He because he forgets his lyrics. So people
will they and I've seen it for a few people,
and I feel like I've mentioned this before. They'll show
that they're taping them and they're they're tapping themselves and
(31:48):
they're taping them like person behind them, and like, can
you believe this is davidly Roth? Now, well, you're the
you're the joke, You're the one you paid for it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And also what happens here, why you need to.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Go to a show and do that. That's so yeah,
for you to feel like a celebrity and get likes,
for you to get a feeling of what that person
earned during their career. So again, this is a broad spectrum.
Axel and gn R are the jumping off points here.
And I also want to mention because I feel as
I use this platform to speak for the guns and
(32:23):
roses fan. I don't speak for everybody, but I like
to think I speak for the rational guns are roses fan.
I said this too, speaking about looks and everything. Uh,
girls still want to bang him, girls want to jump
his bones, Like I use that phrase jump his bones
like on my social media because I've heard girls use
(32:44):
that phrase. You know what happened? All these girls would
use the emoji of hands up me go check my
social media.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
On the show, you know, like not on the first
row because they couldn't they couldn't handle that energy, not
being I don't know how to say machis and miles.
Do you say when.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Machismo? Is that what you're trying to say in English?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I like saying machismo because it reminds me of Razor
Ramone for the the wrestler, you know, Machino just being
Maco and strong and.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, well not very much as wrong, but there you
have to be strong to be there and and hold
three hours. I've seen like three or four girls like
security you had to yeah, doesn't show because they were
like not dying, but passing out probably you know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what. And I'll say this, it's not even
just girls. It happened. It's little p people.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Be like me.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think I've said it really, I would say, real quick,
I happened to be at a corn show like ASPS
years ago. I ran into and the wind got knocked
out of me and the security guard almost took me over,
and I'm like no, no, okay, okay to me that
you gotta be you got to be prepared. Let's just
say that it's chimo. You got to be a certain
you got to be fit. Yeah, no, yeah, here for war.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And what really surprised me, I've seen you know, you
thought of gonce Rosi public is like forties, fifties guys,
and I've seen so many couples, like young, young couples,
like in his twenties, twenty twenty one, twenty two, like couples.
(34:32):
And it was a surprise, you know, and a lot
of little boys with his father's obviously, but little boys
with gonz Rosi's teachers. And he was like, oh cool.
There are new generations of gonzer Rosa's fans. I don't
know if they are going to get a record at some.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Point, but that's the plan with Baby Brownstone. That's what
I want to do. Assuming G and R tours, I mean,
you got to see them. I want to go. I
have yet to see Isaac Carpenter. I'm curious, bro, and
I'm curious what the general sounds like. Why I admit
I'm not a fan of that song. See, I could
(35:08):
say things negative, but I'm not going to go into
you know, I've done episode.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I'm not a fan either, but of the effects of
the boys, but the music itself, it's cool for me.
It's like different, It's not like all guns and roses stuff.
But the clean access and effects on the voices are
really weird. Live doesn't happen that he just sings with
(35:33):
his voice and no effects, and he delivered. You know,
you can see the videos. I mean he was. I
think it was one of the songs he put more
effort into it. Like ninety percent of the people didn't
know the song obviously because faced no one knows that
that song and observed a little bit more and maybe
(35:55):
I don't know part school, just a few, but the
general was people around me was what the fuck is this?
You know? But it sounds great, you know, I mean,
the band is tied actual was great. It was great.
I mean the band is so on fire right now.
(36:16):
And the best thing about the show was the said list.
Besides November Rane and Patients, they were all rockers. Dude,
you know, I liked oh Well, which is which? It?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
In the man, I'm I'm in the minority that likes
that song.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I just I under maybe in the US, the song
has history and it's well known. I don't know Glenn
Campbell and all of that. Maybe more I see that,
I mean, and they've already played it less time, so
it's just change the song man, do another cover. I
don't care, but it's funny because it's last Now he's
playing with I don't know what the hell is that
(36:54):
instrument is, Like it's not a guitar, but it has strings,
and he's.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Like he's still petal guitar. Yeah, well I learned from it.
Was cool. I interviewed Skunk Baxter from you know, he's
from like, you know, a lot of awesome bands and
just legendary guitarists, and he was teaching you know, Doobie Brothers,
and then he was teaching Slash that and then all
of a sudden, Slash comes out playing that on stage
and I had to interview before it happened. And yeah,
(37:18):
and like I can say that because Glenn Campbell, I mean,
I know he's written by Jimmy Webb. Uh, not that
I need more Jimmy Webb, but the songwriter Jimmy Webb
and Glenn Campbell of course made it famous. And he's
you know, country more or less a country artist was.
But I just think as we talk about Axel's voice,
I just think that's the song that it really shines.
(37:39):
I'm not going to disagree with you with November Rain,
and that is my favorite song. I just don't think
it's as he's making these adjustments, and I talked him
all the time, it's like an athlete and you want
to see can you do it? Can you make the adjustment?
And and I think he is and you can only
make the adjustment so much, so November Rain might be
(37:59):
it is what it is because he has to sing
it in a certain key otherwise it may not work.
I don't know. Yeah, but whatever, what's your tone Lineman
for me when you go on the land, just see
if I can't, thank God. But it's I don't know,
it hits me, It hits me.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, No, I mean it's not that I'm trying to
convince you.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I'm just saying no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean the Suxes spot, I know, but for me,
the best one was not because of mine tot too,
but that obsession was something else man register too, Yeah,
but the yeah, but it was cool, you know, because
sometimes on the lower Way too much and this it's
(38:38):
like perfect you know this then, I mean it was
all rockers. You know, you've got six seven appetite songs.
You could be Mine sounded great, you used you read
a lot of comments they had to drop you could
(38:58):
be mine. You can't drop cook in mind. Bro, it's
like it's the I don't know if it's not the verse.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's hard. I mean it's hard if yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You can't drop that one. It's like, don't play Welcome
to the Jungle. I go to the concert to see
Welcome to the Jungle. Matterfucker. I don't care how he sounds,
and he sounds cool.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I mean, agreed.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
One thing I noticed this time. They are like the
sound engineer. I don't know how to call it. I
think it's called that way. They're like changing and going
up and down with the volume of of Access boys
the guitars. It's like you can tell sometimes well Access
(39:41):
voice was way out, way up, but in a good way.
And they like equalizing all the instruments like all the time.
It's not like they start and they go the whole
show with that, you know for some moments. Yeah, he
has a great a hard I guess because he's like
(40:02):
you you can hear constantly the changing of some you know,
sometimes slashes. It's up, sometimes is up, sometimes down, and
it's like that. I think it just helps with the
general experience, you.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Know, because when's cool.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, because I didn't last time there were moments when
you couldn't hear Accel. Just you gotta be honest to
Sometimes you can hear it because all the fucking people
changing around, singing around you. It's like you can't hear him,
you know. But this time they were like the volume
wars up and you could hear it. And yeah, and
(40:42):
they have so many great songs. Man, what can I
I mean, I'm not discovering America with this, but it's
like they have so many great songs. You know, you
got work up the jungles, which are a mind paralys
city civil war, you could be mine. It's like there
are so many good songs on one night. I don't
know how many bands can say that, you.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Know, And that's why it's funny when people say.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
It's like, I don't know, I just I always think
what this band could have been if they being more
normal or they didn't break up, you know, because they
had three records only and they're massive.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
When people say, you know those like trees speaking controls
from before, you know gen R has like one album. No,
they can't play three hours off one album, so they
don't have one album. So that's always a very stupid argument.
I also don't like the argument that use Your Illusion
one and two should be one album, because why would
(41:43):
you take away music? It's a journey. People don't listen
to albums anymore, and it was just a time capsule.
Why would you want to change that. You can have
your favorites, but why would you want to take anything away?
But you you know, you mentioned some some cool things
that I often press as well. You know, he may
not hit certain songs the same way, but how can
(42:04):
you take them out? You go to a Guns to
Roses show and you see, if you don't see Welcome,
you don't see sweet Child of Mind? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah? I hate to the child at this point, but
there is like you have to yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And what was the reaction around you when that well.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
What can I tell you is the most loved song
of the band. You know, like everyone went crazy and.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
It was like, you know, I mean it is what
it is? Did you go by yourself, why did you
go with your girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Because she she only had money for my tickets, so
I know.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
When she wants to when she wanted to buy the
second when she wanted to buy the second one, like, oh,
I was wanted to go, she said, and well, let's
see his there.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Are tickets the page, the side of the ticket sales,
like I don't know it was it went off and
there were no more tickets. I don't know. She couldn't
make it. She is that fun like me. But she
knows all the songs obviously, and if you live with
a Ganza Roses freak, you probably know Ganza rose songs.
(43:08):
But besides his father, like my father, like I are
in the fifties our Ganz Roses fans. My father is
the reason I like Ganson Roses. So she she knows
all the songs too.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
You know, my wife is the same way. You know,
It's funny I mentioned to her this book because she's
a huge Dave Matthews fan. I know a lot of
listeners know that, but I'm like, you know the Guns
and Roasies song Civil War. She's like, yeah, I've seen
it live like four times. Because I just don't expect
her to know things. I sometimes I underestimate her, which
(43:40):
is not a good idea, but it's it's just she will.
She enjoys going. She can't wait to go again. So
I'm I'm sorry your girlfriend couldn't go with you, but
I hope you We better make her like dinner at home.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
You better, Yeah, of course I make dinner every day.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, okay, good good.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I like I like cooking like it's Mickey's cheff Mickey.
You know, that's the one thing I do remember that
I didn't like that. It was to me just I
don't want to forget in the bridge or I don't know,
in the instrumental part of Rocket Queen, like at the
(44:19):
end when not the solo of Flash and the easy
easy reach and all that stuff in the actual song
and the versus the piano of this was way too
loud one. It was in something like I didn't heard
before on Rocket Queen, And I didn't like that. You know.
That's one thing that I didn't like to say. And
(44:39):
I don't know why I remember that, but it was unnecessary,
you know everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I mean also, I mean, you can just tell me
if I'm wrong. You probably hear different things at different
parts of the stadium. I mean maybe maybe the piano
was loud for you because you were so close.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
No, no, it wasn't. I mean it's like adding something
to the song with the theater that I didn't understand.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But I see, okay, do you play me an instrument?
By the way, No, no, no, you seem very knowledgeable,
So I was curious what you seem very knowledgeable? So
I was curious. No.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
No, I just listened to music since I was a
kid like you. No, but you know we are passionate
about music. And no, no, I just went to a
few singing lessons, like one year and on my singing,
(45:35):
how do you say play when you show to the
people what you've learned on on the on the year
you do a show a concert with all the students. Obviously,
which band I choose a song? Sing?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Patients? No?
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Sorry, sorry, okay, yeah, I went see that's okay. I
but I seen guns and roses. I sound like Mickey Mouse.
I mean it's I think I think that's what people
say because it's I like, I understand why people make
that jokes. But it's like you can make a joke
(46:16):
about everybody about something you can make I don't want
to point out all my flaws. Maybe you see it,
but there are plenty of things to make fun of
me for it. You're gonna keep bringing it up all
the time. Does that mean you should just put me
down as a person? Look like, do you ever throw things? Look?
This is a look at this. This is like I'm
gonna throw something right now because I'm a handicapped. This
is a little crane. I picked things up off the
floor right Sometimes I get mad. Yeah, I threw it. Oh,
(46:42):
Brandow's crazy. I threw something across the room. It's it happens,
bro it happens. It's so imposers people, Rock is dead?
Where's the danger? And rock and roll? Axelo throat. It
shows a little passion kicking something, which I don't think
he's trying to break anything. You try to pick something
by hitting it sometimes because you get frustrated, and that
(47:04):
there was dangerous.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Anyway, he made a little rent and then talked about it,
and it was it was cool. You know, it was fun.
If people who pay the show and was there and
doesn't feel bad or or offented, you know, it's cool.
I mean, we had a great time. It was a
great show, three hour show. People were happy. You know,
(47:30):
when when you go to a show and the show
isn't that good, you can tell by the way out
of the of the stadium the people faces, you know,
oh yeah, you don't see them so happy because it
happens some bands are not good live or but or
the sound is bad or whatever. And this it was
(47:51):
like a communion of all people who just had a
great time with the favorite band, you know. And I think,
like me, there were a lot of people surprised. You know,
if you well, you don't know, you don't live in Argentina,
but my Twitter, my ex account were a lot of
(48:14):
people of here who attended to the show and said, oh,
I am very surprised. You know, I thought he couldn't
sing anymore. They are great musinis and I was surprised,
you know. I read a lot of great comments about
this time. Was I think that the most commented show
of Controls is that I can remember, you know, and
(48:36):
saying good things about it. And yeah, I mean, what
it's such such a shame they don't drop new music
because like now music, they sound so cool man, it's
like a rockman now again, like and what I like
about Isaac is like he has personality and he obviously
(49:00):
add some stuff of his own to the songs but
fits great. I mean Frank did that too, but sound
like I don't know, like some hip hop or something
like something was off about his addings to the to
the songs, like it was no, there was no harmony
(49:20):
in that, and they feel weird, you know, like out
of place. You if you, if you listen, maybe you
can hear it, you know. But there are somethings that
isaacally does that you said, wow, what is that? I
never heard that on Against Rose's song, Like I don't
know how to say it now, but because I'm not
technic technically a drummer, but you can hear some things
(49:44):
different and say wow, that's good man and the whole
show through the old songs, he adds something different and
you can see Slash and Duff who probably made a
call to change Frank. Let's be honest. You can see
(50:05):
they are like having a great time. You know. It's like,
of course if you are a bass player and your
drummer you don't fit with him, well, I don't be
It's like you have a partner on your world that
you don't like it. Well, it's but in music you
have to have that chemistry, you know. And yeah, I
(50:25):
mean the fact that that shows him it's I guess
it's for something. And yeah, I mean he was the
MVP of the show. You know that's cool, I think
because as All was great. That's a great slash. Obviously
he's just God. I mean he's like, it's like God
came and pick up a guitar. Yeah, but you already
(50:47):
know that. I mean, nine since left so many times
with guns with black the ball, and I just know
he's slashed. But this guy was well, man, I can't
believe it's you know, well.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
You got me excited, man. I mean, this is the again,
the platform that I use, whether it's on social media
or on the podcast, which is what this is the
appetite for distortion talking to the fans that are there
and you're not you're giving an honest review with you know,
some hiccups or you know, I don't want to call
them flaws, let's call me hiccups or moments you get
(51:20):
like or whatever humans rock show. It did not, at
the end of the day. You can correct me if
I'm wrong. It did not take away from your overall experience,
you had a great like, so we what are we
complaining about? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (51:35):
But if I can send a message to everyone who's
watching this, and it was like, I don't know if
I can go. I don't know if it's worth you
not go to the fucking show Man because yeah, you
know they are not young people. They were having a
you know, some drug issues all over their life and
(51:57):
maybe tomorrow some I mean please got no, but you
know what happened to us, See what happened to Limp
Biscuits basis.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Same rivers and it's freely I mean he was.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Tomorrow and I mean, you know, actual gets slam a lot.
But sorry for bon Joe Evans. I've seen a video
of like yesterday of job and yeah you can like it,
you're not, but the guy is still there singing, and
well you have to go to see it. You know,
maybe it's cool, maybe it's bad, but go go.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
No, you're right too, and well yes, so, I mean
because he just announced the tour and I was talking
about with my wife because they're playing four shows in
Madison Square Garden and she's like, I.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Don't want to be like all the people we criticize
but he sounds bad or media? What can I say?
Speaker 2 (52:48):
But right? But is it? Is it the same? Because
Axel is our boy? Are we going to say it
about somebody else that might be you know right? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Don't don't get your brain wash of trolls of the internet,
or just read the people who were there, or listen
to people who were there. Don't don't make your judge
about a video. Thank god I went because if if
if I lose the show, maybe I would regret it
(53:18):
today too. So that's that's the whole point of I mean,
me doing this review. Go to the fucking show Man
because they're cool. They are great. I mean, they have
so many great songs. They are some great No.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
In your perspective, would have been different if you didn't go,
and you were bummed and your girlfriend didn't get you
the ticket, and you probably would have just still had
this mindset that they're done and you didn't have this
personal experience that seems to have completely changed.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, probably say now, yeah, you can sing anymore. I
don't bother the gold Probably.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, isn't it? Isn't it something song? I'm trying to
avoid the clip I know I can't but avoid the
clips online why I can, and just hope that they're.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Painful to here. Let's be honest, but really it's something
really different when you see it than when you don't.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Oh yeah, I mean, that's what anything I say, that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
That's the whole point of this for me.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
That's the whole point of this. I know, I know.
And that's the irony of that. You have to watch this,
you know, on on on on the computer, on on
your phone. I understand, and then it's easy just to
switch over to a Guns and Roses video. I get it.
But if you listen to this now, just have some perspective.
That was the word that I used in the what's the.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Worst that could happen to you? If you go, yes,
that's the money, then you have to work then to
to take it on again. But go, it's meant. It's great.
It's great. And if it were, if it were bad,
the show why it was, I would be here saying, yeah,
well that wasn't good, you know, because I'm a fan,
But I'm honest too, and.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, and I want honest fans. I don't want to
create some sort of bubble. We're all just praising G
and R everything that they do is correct, because that's
not human. I talk about my own flaws and things
I do wrong all the time. Why would I talk
anybody about anyone else differently? It's that's insane, So let
me just get it in there, because it's as funny
all the clickbait made guns and Roses respond pretty much
(55:16):
don't respond to anything. GENR has that that's the silence method,
So they just put out during the opening song of
our recent Buenos Aras concert, Axel's India monitor pack, it
only the percussion in his ears versus his entire mix.
The issue was fixed by our tech team, but the
third song and the situation had nothing to do with
(55:37):
Isaac Carpenter's playing, who was a top notch and great drummer,
because people are trying to make it to be out
an Isaac thing or Axel's crazy thing or and it's
just not anything. So and also say, I saw some
criticism about why it took so long for gen R
to put out a statement, because sometimes things just blow
over and you can just ignore it. But it was
(55:59):
getting but sorry, I realized I was talking over you.
Say what were you saying?
Speaker 1 (56:05):
Again today they did that statement. It was unnecessary. I mean,
of course.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Because you and I don't care, but I think it
was it was just I feel like I was seeing
it because it wasn't just a rock sites anymore. People
making it to become something else, like it's Axel changed,
and even the TMZ just calling it, you know Axel.
It's not it's not like Axel signed it, but like
Axel apologizes for Tantrum, like they're even still spinning this.
(56:35):
So that's why. Look, this is why guns and roses,
and it's to my detriment too, why they don't do interviews,
because it's you're damned if you do, you're damned if
you don't. So if you show a little passion, you're
a psycho. If you don't show any passion, you're you
should retire. It's just whatever I could, I could keep
going with you. But I think I think we've we
(56:56):
rehashed this. I really, uh we rehashed this Argentina review,
I think pretty well. So don't cry. Don't cry for
me Argentina.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
No, No, that's the whole point. You you have to
go man to all the people that are watching these
I don't know how many are of us G and
R fans here go to the show right on. Yeah,
it's like they are a great band. You know, they're
not Roses.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
It's it's it's one thing for me to get in
the mic and and to do an episode by myself.
But I wanted to talk to somebody that was there.
I mentioned before. You know, I had some other people volunteer,
and this is just what worked out. Uh. But I
appreciate it because I want to It's I know, I
don't want to just hear myself. I want to hear
the people who were there experiencing real life. You're showing
(57:45):
us your ticket right now there. You know people, Oh
he was his whole story is made up exactly the
ticket right there.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
This is the proof.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
But people will still make it up. Oh that's counterfeit,
and I'm scinded that. Yeah, a beautiful, beautiful man. So
it's again we're all here. That's why I've been so
lucky to do this podcast for so long, to interview
cool rock stars and to meet people like you. We
all do it through Guns n' Roses, and when people
all attack the music and the people that we really
enjoy and give us happiness, in our daily lives, whether
(58:19):
it's a song, whether it's a memory. You're putting on
a on Guns and Roses shirt that day to work
and people are like, yeah, man, I saw them back
and you know not and you're having a conversation. That's
what we're here for. And all those trolls just trying
to say stuff, it's just it's it's laughable. It makes
me laugh. It doesn't bother me more than just I'm
so passionate, Like if I have to teach my son,
(58:40):
if I'm teaching my son not to behave a certain way,
my two and a half year old son, like you
know it, don't you know he's not that all yet. Work.
It's like I'm gonna teach him. If you have nothing
nice to say, don't say it at all. If I
need to say that to you as an adult, there's
a problem you could feel however you want. You could
say it on your own Facebook or whatever.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
You can say it, but okay, that's the person you
want to be good for you anyway, get in the ring.
So Augustine, thank you so much for your time for
I really appreciate it. So that does it for this
episode of appetite for distortion. I want to do more reviews.
So if you go to a show, I know I
(59:20):
haven't had a lot of time this uh this year
with my son, but I'll try to make them work.
If you're going to a show, If you went to
a show and you just really want to talk about
it and it's already you know, maybe a few months
behind you went to one of the shows in Japan
or the UK. You want to talk about it, maybe
we can do something anyway when we see the next episode.
In the words of Axl Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I
(59:41):
don't know. As soon as the word let you see it.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Thanks to the lamb ass security, I'm going home.
He didn't the mic to the drum kids. He did
Keith the drum Kit later.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion. My Name is Brando,
Episode number five hundred and thirty eight. I was thinking
about naming this episode Augustine. Did I say that coast
very quest say your name before I'm gonna call you
my I'm going to bastardize it in my New York way,
(00:31):
and I apologize. I said it off the air. I said.
Our first review we did a couple of years ago.
You came on with our friend d' raphael. We did
a joint review of Argentina and Brazil, and I'm happy
to be doing a review again. And it's been a
long time. You You're like, I was just at those
shows in Argentina and this was before I think the
(00:52):
whole news world we're like, oh Axel's crazy again, and
that maybe like, oh wow, I really need to do
a fan review. So yes, thank you and thank you,
insert your name and say it the way it's meant
to be said before I screw it up. How do you?
I Wustin, You're getting closed? Okay, okay, there's so many
(01:16):
episodes of me mispronouncing things and screwing up, and it's
kind of par for the course of just you can
be professional. You could be doing this for as long
as you know. I've been doing this for over twenty years.
Not a GENR podcast. I mean, this has been GOT nine,
but Axel's been doing his thing for a long time.
And sometimes you have moments, so we're going to get
(01:39):
into that. So you there were two shows in Argentina right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, on Friday seventeen and Saturday eighteen. I couldn't make
it to the seventeen Friday show. I went to the
infamous Excels tans Frum show on Saturday eighteen.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Tantrum. My wife was laughing at me before I left
because I'm just reading the headlines even though at this
point we're recording. Gene R actually put out a statement
and we'll get to that. But Tantrum is such an
overweight throw a tantrum. I have a toddler, he throws
a tantrum. This is just somebody getting pissed for what anyway,
(02:22):
So I want to give a shout out to Also.
I just had his name. He has Guns N' Roses
Live era on Instagram and he was going to join us,
and I want to acknowledge because he and I respect
it because the fact that he speaks English to me
in DMS and you do the same thing to me.
I can't speak Spanish. I can't speak another language. I
(02:44):
was telling my wife earlier in high school, I had
to go after school to try to just to show
the teacher. I was trying, like I just it's my brain.
It's just not that intelligent to speak more than bad English.
You know, I can't do it. So he was a
little comfortable coming on, which I totally respect. Maybe we'll
be He'll be on in the Gonzale. So he has
(03:05):
a great guns Roses Instagram page. And before we get
into your story, he sent me his small review because
he also went to the show. Okay, so I'll just
read you his and I'll let you, uh you take
over as well. You can tell me if his review
is accurate, okay, because you're gonna We're gonna be honest here.
People think I'm just uh just trying to like blow
up Axel and puff them up and just be I'm
(03:28):
just being honest. And I'm actually using Axel as a
jumping off point to how society treats each other. So
you gotta be kind of smart to get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh, you don't have to blow anything up like she's
he's a legend, so.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He is. It's it's he doesn't need my defense or
anyone else's defense. Uh, I think it's just me just
like what I'm doing here on this podcast is doing
exactly that. This podcast, I happen to create a platform,
and I'm using the platform to talk. Uh, four other
Guns of Roses fans who are on social media who
(04:04):
are tired of seeing GNR lives, you know, not the album,
but the actual lies. So anyway, so Gonzala from my
Guns n' Roses live on Instagram and he writes another again,
this is I'm always gonna take fan reviews, people who
were there, who were there, not judging a clip online. Saturday,
(04:24):
the eighteenth show started later than planned, around nine to
twenty five pm compared to around eight to fifty. That's fine,
it's late in Guns of Roses world and nowadays, compared
to eight to fifty the night before. So he went
both days. He was lucky enough. It was noticeable that
something was holding the band up, since the stage was
always ready They opened with welcome, and then the problem occurred.
(04:48):
Axel communicated with his crew at least five times. Vanessa Santos,
who was standing next to him, seemed very worried and
had a face like what will Axel do? First, he
took off with in the Years, and he finished the
song by smashing the mic against the drums. The in
ear monitor was charged, was changed at least three times
(05:08):
up to Chinese Democracy. At what point I personally got
scared because Axel was gesturing to his crew as if
as if to say, see, I could screw up. I
just wanted to That's as if to say, uh, this
isn't If this isn't fixed, I'm not continuing. He didn't
say that. This is just how Gonzal he felt like.
(05:29):
I guess the aura Axel was giving off. Uh, this
is gonna be a challenge for me today. Uh, he
did end up saying. So. Axel addressed this immediately after,
this is going to be a challenge for me today.
This isn't mister Carpenter's fault. It's just that the percussion
is drilling into my head. Luckily, everything was resolved, and
(05:50):
he surprised us with an extraordinary performance. Yeah, would you
say his review is accurate.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yes, of course, Yeah, that's what happened, or very episode
of He didn't throw.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The mic to the drums itself. He threw it like
to the stairs, like it's the drums are there, the
stairs are just up just below. He didn't throw the
mic to the drum kids. He did kick the drum
kid later. I think it was at the end of
(06:27):
Pretty Tied Up. That was. Yeah, that was a bit disrespectful.
You can't keep the drum of your new guy the
mic was. I mean, all of the people that we
were there, we were excel excel, we were nuts. I
mean we've all known stories, we all seen videos, but
(06:51):
in modern days, he never did something like that. He's
like calm and shows some time and he's so cool
and well it was nice for me. It was nice
to see something like that. I mean I never got
scared of him going to stop the show or something
(07:14):
like that, because it didn't seem to be something that
couldn't be fixed. You know, probably twenty years ago you
maybe be afraid of finish the concert. So but it
was it was fun. I mean it was fun.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Other people sitting where are you sitting? Where are you.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't know how to say cowboy in the field
of the you had the stage and I was like
five majors on front.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Row too close.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, I was fighting for my life for some time.
You know. Here in Argentina, people are well you can
see in the videos. Yeah, I very we are very
passionate and like you are. There's like you have to
in three hours doing that. Man, it was it goes hard,
(08:09):
but it was fun. I mean, I couldn't go to
a show and be sit down on like I don't
know how to say the fucking grade of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I need to go the the nosebleed here.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, of course I need to go to there, like
that's where I said normally, yeah, but probably if I
lived in USA or other countries, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't mean to offense anyone, but people there it's
like super chill and calm, and it's the same to
be sit there and on the I don't know how
to say that the seats, but if people in the
field are not going crazy, it's the same if you're
there or up there. So here I need to go
(08:54):
to the to the craziness and it's something like you
can't explain if you don't know, if you don't leave it,
it's like you are hunging people you don't know, crying
with people you don't know. Whoa you hear that? Yeah, yeah,
it's like, I mean it's great, it's fucking great.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It looks fucking great, and honestly, it's a bucket list thing.
I mean I see these, you know, in a lot
of foreign countries, I say foreign countries, but uh in
Argentina obviously recently, and just seeing that, it's like a
wave of just humanity, yeah, enjoining together. So that's why
it's you know, it's so funny where all these these
(09:38):
videos of AXL coming out now and people controls are
just chomping at the bit. People are waiting to jump
on Axle for anything. A common one I would see
is who would see guns of roses rose now and
turn around, turn the camera around, look at the wave
of people two nights? How many? How many people does that?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know? The just let me check, but rout, I
think fifty thousand people. I mean that's probably. Yeah. I'm
pretty pretty cooled, you know, And it's you have to
mention here in Argentina, the economy are pretty pretty bad
(10:22):
and the tickets were way too expensive and it still
got sold out both nights.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, yeah, that said something.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So who would see accellent today? Well, there you go
one hundred just in Argentina.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, exactly, there you go. And there's something else. I
would always have to fight back with about ticket prices,
and I'm not going to defend ticket prices. But it's
not just guns or roses. I don't know, no, no,
I'm just I'm just telling people know that. It's just
like I know you know that, but it's just it's
just funny when people say that, you know. I actually,
(11:00):
because I haven't said it on the podcast yet, my
wife had to convinced me a little bit. But I'm
gonna see Paul McCartney next month in Pittsburgh. Okay, I've
never seen him before. Pittsburgh is like six seven hours
away from us. He's not coming to New York, at
least not yet. But the tickets we got three hundred
and fifty dollars each. I've never spent that much on
the ticket, and that is considered cheap. That's cheap. So
(11:24):
it's like, all right, I get to take my son.
I'm sure he won't remember it. But it'll be your
memory for me forever. So yeah, so it's it is cool,
and let me just address because I'm gonna, I mean,
it will come up again. But because you just mentioned
it about the drum kicking the drum, you know, let's
break it down. Let's break it down with Axel.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, so have you.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
When I first saw the video, right, I posted it
because I thought it was funny. And I'll give a
shout out to another follower listener with the mine of
a does gene our content? I think it's pronounced zero
or is it Saint zero? Saint zero eighty seven? And
he put together like a thirty second video of that
(12:07):
those moments, and Tom was well edited. Video showed everything
and it made me laugh. I'm like, okay, just like
you said before, showed the fire, the passions castle and
nothing happened, like the show didn't get canceled. I was like,
all right, cool, Like I get mad, too cool, And
(12:29):
I'm shocked, really shocked. I guess I shouldn't be. And
I'm naive that the way it was blown up about
a tantrum and getting upset and here we go again,
and look, there's a few things to say. So I understand.
You can get upset, you can take your ear monitor out,
and there's a way. Maybe you don't address it at
all and just move on. I don't know about you,
(12:52):
Agustine to say it okay, then I'm gonna keep asking
because it's thank you. Yeah, I don't know about you.
I have I don't know people. You may have noticed
I have a temper at times, but overall when you
interact with me, aren't I nice? I like to think
and approachable, But there are times they're not proud moments
you want to throw something, you want to hit something
(13:14):
like It's just it's the difference is are you hitting
a person or are you hitting like you should hit
a wall? I mean those are bad. I mean back
in the day, my dad didn't have like a crazy
rage problem. But like you know, punch the wall back
in the day. It's not a great memory, but it's
I've punched things. It's not a good thing. It's again
(13:35):
not it's just not a good thing. But however, on
the flip side, have you ever I told you about
like my like my equipment sometimes not working. Have you
ever hit something to make it work? This isn't working.
I've done it with my microphone.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, of course, just work. They say it's an idiot. Yeah,
and we don't have to be in front of like
fifty thousand people who pay to see that. Great.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So because we're not doing it. I'm doing these things
behind the scenes and not in front of thousands of people.
And you know what, those emotions take over. And here's
the thing. I think you will agree. Here's the it's
rock and roll. It's rock and roll. Yeah, this is
why rock it's good. Sorry good yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No. And so people who create his size and you
know all this bullshit, it's people who are who are
not there, Like the whole fucking stadium went nuts, and
we're happy seeing that. So that's what matters. It's not
like somebody or some people when like whoo no, no,
(14:45):
no at all. It was the exactly opposite. I mean
we were a fucking crazy like he's fucking nats A
Roads doing nts A Road things. I mean, it's like
the closest nineties acts a ros I I could witness.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So really, I try to be I'm an honest person.
I'm a terrible liar. You're just you're one sample of
every person that I've spoken to about because I'm so
fortunate with this podcast to be able to communicate with
people in other countries and talk to gonz Roses mans
around the world. Everyone that I've seen, this was one
(15:19):
of the best shows I've ever seen, Like I hear
that repeatedly, didn't you tell me that? Like how many
times have you seen Guns of Roses? And where does.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Since the reunion? I went to South then twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen, twenty twenty two, and this one, this was
my fourth. I've seen Excels Guns n' Roses New Guns
here before, but this like this since he shines, Slash
and daff back four the time was this one, And yeah,
(15:51):
maybe it was not better than the first one when
they reunited and came here because like the emotion and
the excitement of seeing them together and that at that
point actually had some power in his voice too. But
(16:11):
this time was like, first I had to say, they're
a different band. I've seen previous lineups with Frank, sorry
for Frank, but like Isaac is so great, you know,
it's like it's another band really, and the sound I
don't know, I it's just a different band. I mean,
(16:31):
you know, you had besides Melis and easy. You know,
there are like five guys. If you changed one with
one instrument so important, like the drums, you can notice
the difference. If you couldn't know the difference, they wouldn't
(16:51):
change the drum the drummer because why it sounds like
so much power now raur I mean, and you can
see the three of them at Slash Duff. They enjoy
more of the songs, you know, like there's something that
you can explain. It's just chemistry, you know. Musically, it
(17:14):
was the best time I've seen them, so it was great.
And besides, Accel's voice is not what it used to
be like in twenty sixteen. I don't know if he's
doing something like not rehearsing or vocal culture or whatever
he does. He looked he seemed like more prepared, you know,
(17:37):
like in twenty sixteen he had raps, but he went like, well,
I'm this and yeah yeah, and if it went wrong,
it went wrong, and if it went well when well
like this, he's like he's self aware of what he
can do, what he can do, when to hold the notes,
when to sustain, when to go for the high. You know,
(17:57):
it's like vocally like vocal wise technique. I think it
was the best time I've seen him, you know, And yeah,
I mean he you know this this joke of the
phone recording is not record the rasp and all that cheat.
That is funny, but kind of it's kind of true
(18:21):
at some point, you know, I can explain you have
to go to the show and here for yourself, because
it's it's real. You know, you hear things that in
the fucking video recording you can't hear. I don't say
he's seeing like he was nineteen ninety two or nineteen
eighty three. I don't say that, but he's sixty three
(18:41):
years old, and I don't know it's I'm thirty and
I went to the show three hours and I was
like two three days with back pain and my boys
shot and the guy is like twice of my age
and standing for three hours because that's an the thing,
you know. Yeah, the tickets are way high, but you
(19:05):
got that three hour show and not any other band
I've seen, and I've seen like a lot of fans,
including Metallica. I see DC, Red Hot, Chili Peper and
all the mainstream and like bands like that. None of
them play more than two hours.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like so.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It was a great show. You know, it had everything.
The band sounds great, they seem to like each other,
they seem to have fun. Actual was in a great
mood besides the the the fucking Mike and Brams events.
But yeah, it's kind of the one moment that maybe
(19:47):
he was a bit of was right after after after
Waldome to the Jungle, they couldn't fix the fucking inniar monitors,
so the show have to continue, and they did, like
I think one two songs without his his in ears,
and it was pretty sided up. I think he got
lost at some point of the song. Besides that, it
(20:09):
was a great fucking show. I mean. And people always
complain about the said list too. I seen four times
the band and they always changed the said lest you know,
this time I got to see Yeah, of course, this
time I got to see Bad Obsession, which I love,
(20:30):
and I have this fucking tattoo.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Nice Tattoos are listening on the audio version, it's just
a beautiful gun and roses.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, Bad Obsession. Obviously I knew they are playing this song,
so it was not surprise for me. But it was
so cool and you know, actual little Access, Little Boys
it's still so fucking cool. And this I said, he's
like he's doing something. I don't know what the hell
(20:59):
he's doing, Like he's practicing, like he's rehearsing, like I
don't know, But he's not out of air. He's not
out of red. He knows when to hold a node
when not to. I mean even I don't know. The
only one song that I didn't like so much because
(21:21):
I don't like the song either, it's no membrane. That
one was hard on his voice because he's not screaming
and he's not he he do what he cans with
that and maybe better what kind of the rest of
the song? So fucking cool man? And well I got
bad obsession that I haven't seen it before. Down on
(21:44):
the Farm that was great, and the general because the
last time they didn't it was not released before and
now maybe I'm forgot well pretty side out okay, like
they're changing the said is too. So it was a
great show. I mean, I don't have anything bad to
(22:05):
say about it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I am and the bad I would say, like the
quote bad things you're saying, You're you're given honest critiques
and that's cool, that's being real that's I want people
to understand. If you see, you know my I had
a whole diatribe, especially on Facebook, about how I think
we should criticize Axel, or if you criticize Axel and specifically,
(22:27):
and I'll address the mouse in the room because you
are coincidentally funnily, it is funny. You're wearing a Mickey
Mouse shirt right now. Yeah, I did not ask you
to wear it. I don't. You didn't wear it on
purpose either. You said you said no, no, yes, So yeah,
I mean Mickey Mouse liking Derek character. I have no
problem with Mickey Mouse. So it's the We've been listening
(22:49):
to the podcasts. You understand the analogy. You know, people
start talking about his voice and what it sounds like. Now,
listen to the way that we just discussed his voice
or a ghostin just to discuss his voice about are
you expecting thirty years ago? But it sounds close to it?
He's adjusting, doesn't sound that a breath? It's good on
(23:10):
this song. It's not a bad on that, but it's
not bad on that song. I'm getting flustered because I'm
so passionate about this. It's like I've wanted to record
this for a few days with you and get this out.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah. I was not expecting something.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I wasn't and it's I'm just using this platform and
it's it's very annoying. Where I don't want to use
the word annoying, I kind of I use the word losers.
You don't have to think, so you don't have to think.
So I think that if you if you hear that,
if you hear Axol a certain way, you're like, Okay,
I hear that. He sounds like this to me. Cool,
(23:45):
But I think what we're doing now, and good for you,
who did not use a cell phone at the concert
lived in the moment. It's the people who don't live
in the moment, the people who go online just to
post a Mickey gift on something that doesn't even have
to do with Axel, or just to you know, ship
on him because of like he threw a quote unquote tantrum.
(24:07):
I think you're a loser. I'm sorry. You may not
be a loser. You may think I'm a loser. Good
for you, I interview rock stars for fine. Think I'm
a loser. So what are you doing? And again I
said it before. There are fans out there who don't
have a platform like being and you're like insulting, you're
hurting their favorite band. It sounds so stupid, Like do
(24:27):
you like Taylor Swift? Like are you a fan? I'm not.
I'm like, I don't. I don't dislike her, just like
a song. I think I like one the song style
and that's about it. But I'm not gonna go online
and be like I hate her or she sucks or
she's like this, because think about it. Hey, I don't
really feel that way. But even if I did, Ah,
you're ruining You're ruining it. So see your live. I
(24:50):
don't even know what I'm talking about these things. I
could say, you know, or I can even use a
better closer argument. It's because it's radio this certain maybe
you were shows I don't like. I don't understand why
they're so successful, you know. And I'm talking like the
the Logan Pauls of the world people like are just
(25:11):
like super famous, Like I don't get it, or an
I show a Speed or even THEO Vaughn who has fans.
I don't. I'm not saying I should be. I can
never be famous. I couldn't handle it. But I just
don't understand. Okay, well here's this person doing this really
creative things. Cool? Why is that person super famous like that?
I don't even like what they do. But you know what,
maybe maybe twenty years ago, I might've been online, ten
(25:32):
years ago online be like you suck, you know what,
give it up. But when you say to Axel Rose,
quit give it up, when he's look at the joy
that he just gave you, and thousands of other people
in Argettina and I saw the same comments. This is
how sick it is. And I want people to know
this again, this is not some sort of Axl Rose
(25:54):
fixation for me. I'm using it because look it, the
appetite for distortion. Axels are jumping off point I go
on TikTok. I see it for Stevie f and Nix,
Stevie Nicks. People are comment have to comment retire this
that it's sick. I think it's sick that how we
treat some of our aging artists. And again, Axel, here
(26:16):
is the example. But I've just again, I've wanted to
get that out. There's so many I can chapter and
verse of different artists. And look at your own life, man,
whether if it's your dad, your grandfather. Maybe they don't
do something as well as they used to. It's all related.
You can't be for mental health, you can't be for
all we're in such a divided country the world and
then still be that person. Then you're opposer. So that's
(26:39):
that's how I feel. That's my little mini rants speaking
of Mickey and Minnie. That's my mini rants right there.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah. And he just for the last thing I want
to say about Axel and all this, because it's like
we're talking out all of Axl and another of the show.
But he he just he doesn't have to prove anything
to anyone, you know, I mean, he he's just part
of music history. And you know, if you see or
(27:10):
read or hear everyone on the music industry like great
musicians and great famous musicians all pretty Axel. You know, well,
he did fell In in a c DC, I mean,
the greatest band of the world. He did feelin for
(27:31):
the singer, I mean, Angus chose him. He like it
was a long ago, but he did the the greatest
queen songs on the Freddie America retribute, you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Know, Fringsteen, Tom Petty, Alton John.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I mean everyone respects him. So who cares what people
are in there that says, you know, right.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And it's not that I don't want people to know
that I care to a degree that I'm passionate about.
Just what I'm passionate about it, I would give the
same I give the same energy too, I'll get the
same like I just mentioned Stevie Nicks, I'll get the
same energy. And this is another thing that it's so
such a stupid criticism of Axel and it doesn't it's
not even relevant anymore. And that's his physical appearance, and
(28:14):
people still you see it, people calling him like fat.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, no he's not.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I say that he looks great. And even maybe
because you said you're thirty, maybe you'll experience it a
little bit later. A dad bod. Maybe he hit a
little bit of a dad bod. At times, I got
a dad bod. I don't want to lift up. I
mean it's like gets a fucking gives a ship, like
who cares. So it's the example is like I see
(28:44):
a lot as Nelly Fertado because she yeah, well she yeah,
I know, but she got but she does. She was
hot then and you know why she's hot now. Both
of both versions.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I got before you know, and I don't have so.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
No, so was because I asked because I always me
pronouncing your name is always.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
At somethings changed. What do they call you in Belado?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Pilato bold, So I will be Pilato. If I went
down you came.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
To Argentina, you will be you will be called pilato
or well not for uce. It's not for no no,
no no, No one goes you that. Yeah, no no,
but pla yes, okay, okay. And what what's the greatest
(29:40):
thing about the show? I guess it was it was
all good. Then I was like expecting less. In fact,
I wasn't going to do the show because first I
didn't have money, and then I was like, yeah, you know,
but the videos and I don't know when, but Isaacs
(30:04):
was one of the reasons that I wanted to go
because in videos you can see that the guy is
a beast. And on Friday night I was on social
media watching videos of the show and I was I
went sad, and my girlfriend saw me and she just
bought me the fucking ticket and was like, you're going tomorrow. Oh,
really great. So I wasn't expecting like this show. I mean,
(30:32):
they always deliver because they are gone and roses their
legends and but yeah, it was it was great. You know.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I like that. That's a that's an interesting thing because
you're you're representing a lot of people who watch. And
it's again, it's not for guspher Axel. This is now
for David Lee Rob this is even for Vince Neil,
who I'm gonna defend. You watch a clip online and
you get sad and like this, what happened to up boy?
(31:00):
You know, it's like, what happened to this this person?
They aged? And also it is not the experience that
if you go or and if you go, because there
are those people and I hate the fact that I
have TikTok. One day I want to make money off it.
We'll see me and Harrison will uh, we'll do some
we'll do I don't know. I'll make them do the
mister Brownstone dance when he can when he's three or whatever. Uh,
(31:26):
it's it's it's it's just again, it's just it's very frustrating.
I lost my what was I saying? I just lost
my train of thought. I guess I admit it. See
this happens during the show. People forget the lyrics. Oh yeah,
Davily Roth. He because he forgets his lyrics. So people
will they and I've seen it for a few people,
and I feel like I've mentioned this before. They'll show
that they're taping them and they're they're tapping themselves and
(31:48):
they're taping them like person behind them, and like, can
you believe this is davidly Roth? Now, well, you're the
you're the joke, You're the one you paid for it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And also what happens here, why you need to.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Go to a show and do that. That's so yeah,
for you to feel like a celebrity and get likes,
for you to get a feeling of what that person
earned during their career. So again, this is a broad spectrum.
Axel and gn R are the jumping off points here.
And I also want to mention because I feel as
I use this platform to speak for the guns and
(32:23):
roses fan. I don't speak for everybody, but I like
to think I speak for the rational guns are roses fan.
I said this too, speaking about looks and everything. Uh,
girls still want to bang him, girls want to jump
his bones, Like I use that phrase jump his bones
like on my social media because I've heard girls use
(32:44):
that phrase. You know what happened? All these girls would
use the emoji of hands up me go check my
social media.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
On the show, you know, like not on the first
row because they couldn't they couldn't handle that energy, not
being I don't know how to say machis and miles.
Do you say when.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Machismo? Is that what you're trying to say in English?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I like saying machismo because it reminds me of Razor
Ramone for the the wrestler, you know, Machino just being
Maco and strong and.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, well not very much as wrong, but there you
have to be strong to be there and and hold
three hours. I've seen like three or four girls like
security you had to yeah, doesn't show because they were
like not dying, but passing out probably you know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what. And I'll say this, it's not even
just girls. It happened. It's little p people.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Be like me.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think I've said it really, I would say, real quick,
I happened to be at a corn show like ASPS
years ago. I ran into and the wind got knocked
out of me and the security guard almost took me over,
and I'm like no, no, okay, okay to me that
you gotta be you got to be prepared. Let's just
say that it's chimo. You got to be a certain
you got to be fit. Yeah, no, yeah, here for war.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And what really surprised me, I've seen you know, you
thought of gonce Rosi public is like forties, fifties guys,
and I've seen so many couples, like young, young couples,
like in his twenties, twenty twenty one, twenty two, like couples.
(34:32):
And it was a surprise, you know, and a lot
of little boys with his father's obviously, but little boys
with gonz Rosi's teachers. And he was like, oh cool.
There are new generations of gonzer Rosa's fans. I don't
know if they are going to get a record at some.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Point, but that's the plan with Baby Brownstone. That's what
I want to do. Assuming G and R tours, I mean,
you got to see them. I want to go. I
have yet to see Isaac Carpenter. I'm curious, bro, and
I'm curious what the general sounds like. Why I admit
I'm not a fan of that song. See, I could
(35:08):
say things negative, but I'm not going to go into
you know, I've done episode.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I'm not a fan either, but of the effects of
the boys, but the music itself, it's cool for me.
It's like different, It's not like all guns and roses stuff.
But the clean access and effects on the voices are
really weird. Live doesn't happen that he just sings with
(35:33):
his voice and no effects, and he delivered. You know,
you can see the videos. I mean he was. I
think it was one of the songs he put more
effort into it. Like ninety percent of the people didn't
know the song obviously because faced no one knows that
that song and observed a little bit more and maybe
(35:55):
I don't know part school, just a few, but the
general was people around me was what the fuck is this?
You know? But it sounds great, you know, I mean,
the band is tied actual was great. It was great.
I mean the band is so on fire right now.
(36:16):
And the best thing about the show was the said list.
Besides November Rane and Patients, they were all rockers. Dude,
you know, I liked oh Well, which is which? It?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
In the man, I'm I'm in the minority that likes
that song.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I just I under maybe in the US, the song
has history and it's well known. I don't know Glenn
Campbell and all of that. Maybe more I see that,
I mean, and they've already played it less time, so
it's just change the song man, do another cover. I
don't care, but it's funny because it's last Now he's
playing with I don't know what the hell is that
(36:54):
instrument is, Like it's not a guitar, but it has strings,
and he's.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Like he's still petal guitar. Yeah, well I learned from it.
Was cool. I interviewed Skunk Baxter from you know, he's
from like, you know, a lot of awesome bands and
just legendary guitarists, and he was teaching you know, Doobie Brothers,
and then he was teaching Slash that and then all
of a sudden, Slash comes out playing that on stage
and I had to interview before it happened. And yeah,
(37:18):
and like I can say that because Glenn Campbell, I mean,
I know he's written by Jimmy Webb. Uh, not that
I need more Jimmy Webb, but the songwriter Jimmy Webb
and Glenn Campbell of course made it famous. And he's
you know, country more or less a country artist was.
But I just think as we talk about Axel's voice,
I just think that's the song that it really shines.
(37:39):
I'm not going to disagree with you with November Rain,
and that is my favorite song. I just don't think
it's as he's making these adjustments, and I talked him
all the time, it's like an athlete and you want
to see can you do it? Can you make the adjustment?
And and I think he is and you can only
make the adjustment so much, so November Rain might be
(37:59):
it is what it is because he has to sing
it in a certain key otherwise it may not work.
I don't know. Yeah, but whatever, what's your tone Lineman
for me when you go on the land, just see
if I can't, thank God. But it's I don't know,
it hits me, It hits me.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, No, I mean it's not that I'm trying to
convince you.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I'm just saying no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean the Suxes spot, I know, but for me,
the best one was not because of mine tot too,
but that obsession was something else man register too, Yeah,
but the yeah, but it was cool, you know, because
sometimes on the lower Way too much and this it's
(38:38):
like perfect you know this then, I mean it was
all rockers. You know, you've got six seven appetite songs.
You could be Mine sounded great, you used you read
a lot of comments they had to drop you could
(38:58):
be mine. You can't drop cook in mind. Bro, it's
like it's the I don't know if it's not the verse.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's hard. I mean it's hard if yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You can't drop that one. It's like, don't play Welcome
to the Jungle. I go to the concert to see
Welcome to the Jungle. Matterfucker. I don't care how he sounds,
and he sounds cool.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I mean, agreed.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
One thing I noticed this time. They are like the
sound engineer. I don't know how to call it. I
think it's called that way. They're like changing and going
up and down with the volume of of Access boys
the guitars. It's like you can tell sometimes well Access
(39:41):
voice was way out, way up, but in a good way.
And they like equalizing all the instruments like all the time.
It's not like they start and they go the whole
show with that, you know for some moments. Yeah, he
has a great a hard I guess because he's like
(40:02):
you you can hear constantly the changing of some you know,
sometimes slashes. It's up, sometimes is up, sometimes down, and
it's like that. I think it just helps with the
general experience, you.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Know, because when's cool.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, because I didn't last time there were moments when
you couldn't hear Accel. Just you gotta be honest to
Sometimes you can hear it because all the fucking people
changing around, singing around you. It's like you can't hear him,
you know. But this time they were like the volume
wars up and you could hear it. And yeah, and
(40:42):
they have so many great songs. Man, what can I
I mean, I'm not discovering America with this, but it's
like they have so many great songs. You know, you
got work up the jungles, which are a mind paralys
city civil war, you could be mine. It's like there
are so many good songs on one night. I don't
know how many bands can say that, you.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Know, And that's why it's funny when people say.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
It's like, I don't know, I just I always think
what this band could have been if they being more
normal or they didn't break up, you know, because they
had three records only and they're massive.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
When people say, you know those like trees speaking controls
from before, you know gen R has like one album. No,
they can't play three hours off one album, so they
don't have one album. So that's always a very stupid argument.
I also don't like the argument that use Your Illusion
one and two should be one album, because why would
(41:43):
you take away music? It's a journey. People don't listen
to albums anymore, and it was just a time capsule.
Why would you want to change that. You can have
your favorites, but why would you want to take anything away?
But you you know, you mentioned some some cool things
that I often press as well. You know, he may
not hit certain songs the same way, but how can
(42:04):
you take them out? You go to a Guns to
Roses show and you see, if you don't see Welcome,
you don't see sweet Child of Mind? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah? I hate to the child at this point, but
there is like you have to yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And what was the reaction around you when that well.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
What can I tell you is the most loved song
of the band. You know, like everyone went crazy and.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
It was like, you know, I mean it is what
it is? Did you go by yourself, why did you
go with your girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Because she she only had money for my tickets, so
I know.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
When she wants to when she wanted to buy the
second when she wanted to buy the second one, like, oh,
I was wanted to go, she said, and well, let's
see his there.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Are tickets the page, the side of the ticket sales,
like I don't know it was it went off and
there were no more tickets. I don't know. She couldn't
make it. She is that fun like me. But she
knows all the songs obviously, and if you live with
a Ganza Roses freak, you probably know Ganza rose songs.
(43:08):
But besides his father, like my father, like I are
in the fifties our Ganz Roses fans. My father is
the reason I like Ganson Roses. So she she knows
all the songs too.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
You know, my wife is the same way. You know,
It's funny I mentioned to her this book because she's
a huge Dave Matthews fan. I know a lot of
listeners know that, but I'm like, you know the Guns
and Roasies song Civil War. She's like, yeah, I've seen
it live like four times. Because I just don't expect
her to know things. I sometimes I underestimate her, which
(43:40):
is not a good idea, but it's it's just she will.
She enjoys going. She can't wait to go again. So
I'm I'm sorry your girlfriend couldn't go with you, but
I hope you We better make her like dinner at home.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
You better, Yeah, of course I make dinner every day.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, okay, good good.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I like I like cooking like it's Mickey's cheff Mickey.
You know, that's the one thing I do remember that
I didn't like that. It was to me just I
don't want to forget in the bridge or I don't know,
in the instrumental part of Rocket Queen, like at the
(44:19):
end when not the solo of Flash and the easy
easy reach and all that stuff in the actual song
and the versus the piano of this was way too
loud one. It was in something like I didn't heard
before on Rocket Queen, And I didn't like that. You know.
That's one thing that I didn't like to say. And
(44:39):
I don't know why I remember that, but it was unnecessary,
you know everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I mean also, I mean, you can just tell me
if I'm wrong. You probably hear different things at different
parts of the stadium. I mean maybe maybe the piano
was loud for you because you were so close.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
No, no, it wasn't. I mean it's like adding something
to the song with the theater that I didn't understand.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But I see, okay, do you play me an instrument?
By the way, No, no, no, you seem very knowledgeable,
So I was curious what you seem very knowledgeable? So
I was curious. No.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
No, I just listened to music since I was a
kid like you. No, but you know we are passionate
about music. And no, no, I just went to a
few singing lessons, like one year and on my singing,
(45:35):
how do you say play when you show to the
people what you've learned on on the on the year
you do a show a concert with all the students. Obviously,
which band I choose a song? Sing?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Patients? No?
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Sorry, sorry, okay, yeah, I went see that's okay. I
but I seen guns and roses. I sound like Mickey Mouse.
I mean it's I think I think that's what people
say because it's I like, I understand why people make
that jokes. But it's like you can make a joke
(46:16):
about everybody about something you can make I don't want
to point out all my flaws. Maybe you see it,
but there are plenty of things to make fun of
me for it. You're gonna keep bringing it up all
the time. Does that mean you should just put me
down as a person? Look like, do you ever throw things? Look?
This is a look at this. This is like I'm
gonna throw something right now because I'm a handicapped. This
is a little crane. I picked things up off the
floor right Sometimes I get mad. Yeah, I threw it. Oh,
(46:42):
Brandow's crazy. I threw something across the room. It's it happens,
bro it happens. It's so imposers people, Rock is dead?
Where's the danger? And rock and roll? Axelo throat. It
shows a little passion kicking something, which I don't think
he's trying to break anything. You try to pick something
by hitting it sometimes because you get frustrated, and that
(47:04):
there was dangerous.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Anyway, he made a little rent and then talked about it,
and it was it was cool. You know, it was fun.
If people who pay the show and was there and
doesn't feel bad or or offented, you know, it's cool.
I mean, we had a great time. It was a
great show, three hour show. People were happy. You know,
(47:30):
when when you go to a show and the show
isn't that good, you can tell by the way out
of the of the stadium the people faces, you know,
oh yeah, you don't see them so happy because it
happens some bands are not good live or but or
the sound is bad or whatever. And this it was
(47:51):
like a communion of all people who just had a
great time with the favorite band, you know. And I think,
like me, there were a lot of people surprised. You know,
if you well, you don't know, you don't live in Argentina,
but my Twitter, my ex account were a lot of
(48:14):
people of here who attended to the show and said, oh,
I am very surprised. You know, I thought he couldn't
sing anymore. They are great musinis and I was surprised,
you know. I read a lot of great comments about
this time. Was I think that the most commented show
of Controls is that I can remember, you know, and
(48:36):
saying good things about it. And yeah, I mean, what
it's such such a shame they don't drop new music
because like now music, they sound so cool man, it's
like a rockman now again, like and what I like
about Isaac is like he has personality and he obviously
(49:00):
add some stuff of his own to the songs but
fits great. I mean Frank did that too, but sound
like I don't know, like some hip hop or something
like something was off about his addings to the to
the songs, like it was no, there was no harmony
(49:20):
in that, and they feel weird, you know, like out
of place. You if you, if you listen, maybe you
can hear it, you know. But there are somethings that
isaacally does that you said, wow, what is that? I
never heard that on Against Rose's song, Like I don't
know how to say it now, but because I'm not
technic technically a drummer, but you can hear some things
(49:44):
different and say wow, that's good man and the whole
show through the old songs, he adds something different and
you can see Slash and Duff who probably made a
call to change Frank. Let's be honest. You can see
(50:05):
they are like having a great time. You know. It's like,
of course if you are a bass player and your
drummer you don't fit with him, well, I don't be
It's like you have a partner on your world that
you don't like it. Well, it's but in music you
have to have that chemistry, you know. And yeah, I
(50:25):
mean the fact that that shows him it's I guess
it's for something. And yeah, I mean he was the
MVP of the show. You know that's cool, I think
because as All was great. That's a great slash. Obviously
he's just God. I mean he's like, it's like God
came and pick up a guitar. Yeah, but you already
(50:47):
know that. I mean, nine since left so many times
with guns with black the ball, and I just know
he's slashed. But this guy was well, man, I can't
believe it's you know, well.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
You got me excited, man. I mean, this is the again,
the platform that I use, whether it's on social media
or on the podcast, which is what this is the
appetite for distortion talking to the fans that are there
and you're not you're giving an honest review with you know,
some hiccups or you know, I don't want to call
them flaws, let's call me hiccups or moments you get
(51:20):
like or whatever humans rock show. It did not, at
the end of the day. You can correct me if
I'm wrong. It did not take away from your overall experience,
you had a great like, so we what are we
complaining about? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (51:35):
But if I can send a message to everyone who's
watching this, and it was like, I don't know if
I can go. I don't know if it's worth you
not go to the fucking show Man because yeah, you
know they are not young people. They were having a
you know, some drug issues all over their life and
(51:57):
maybe tomorrow some I mean please got no, but you
know what happened to us, See what happened to Limp
Biscuits basis.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Same rivers and it's freely I mean he was.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Tomorrow and I mean, you know, actual gets slam a lot.
But sorry for bon Joe Evans. I've seen a video
of like yesterday of job and yeah you can like it,
you're not, but the guy is still there singing, and
well you have to go to see it. You know,
maybe it's cool, maybe it's bad, but go go.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
No, you're right too, and well yes, so, I mean
because he just announced the tour and I was talking
about with my wife because they're playing four shows in
Madison Square Garden and she's like, I.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Don't want to be like all the people we criticize
but he sounds bad or media? What can I say?
Speaker 2 (52:48):
But right? But is it? Is it the same? Because
Axel is our boy? Are we going to say it
about somebody else that might be you know right? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Don't don't get your brain wash of trolls of the internet,
or just read the people who were there, or listen
to people who were there. Don't don't make your judge
about a video. Thank god I went because if if
if I lose the show, maybe I would regret it
(53:18):
today too. So that's that's the whole point of I mean,
me doing this review. Go to the fucking show Man
because they're cool. They are great. I mean, they have
so many great songs. They are some great No.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
In your perspective, would have been different if you didn't go,
and you were bummed and your girlfriend didn't get you
the ticket, and you probably would have just still had
this mindset that they're done and you didn't have this
personal experience that seems to have completely changed.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, probably say now, yeah, you can sing anymore. I
don't bother the gold Probably.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, isn't it? Isn't it something song? I'm trying to
avoid the clip I know I can't but avoid the
clips online why I can, and just hope that they're.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Painful to here. Let's be honest, but really it's something
really different when you see it than when you don't.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Oh yeah, I mean, that's what anything I say, that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
That's the whole point of this for me.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
That's the whole point of this. I know, I know.
And that's the irony of that. You have to watch this,
you know, on on on on the computer, on on
your phone. I understand, and then it's easy just to
switch over to a Guns and Roses video. I get it.
But if you listen to this now, just have some perspective.
That was the word that I used in the what's the.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Worst that could happen to you? If you go, yes,
that's the money, then you have to work then to
to take it on again. But go, it's meant. It's great.
It's great. And if it were, if it were bad,
the show why it was, I would be here saying, yeah,
well that wasn't good, you know, because I'm a fan,
But I'm honest too, and.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, and I want honest fans. I don't want to
create some sort of bubble. We're all just praising G
and R everything that they do is correct, because that's
not human. I talk about my own flaws and things
I do wrong all the time. Why would I talk
anybody about anyone else differently? It's that's insane, So let
me just get it in there, because it's as funny
all the clickbait made guns and Roses respond pretty much
(55:16):
don't respond to anything. GENR has that that's the silence method,
So they just put out during the opening song of
our recent Buenos Aras concert, Axel's India monitor pack, it
only the percussion in his ears versus his entire mix.
The issue was fixed by our tech team, but the
third song and the situation had nothing to do with
(55:37):
Isaac Carpenter's playing, who was a top notch and great drummer,
because people are trying to make it to be out
an Isaac thing or Axel's crazy thing or and it's
just not anything. So and also say, I saw some
criticism about why it took so long for gen R
to put out a statement, because sometimes things just blow
over and you can just ignore it. But it was
(55:59):
getting but sorry, I realized I was talking over you.
Say what were you saying?
Speaker 1 (56:05):
Again today they did that statement. It was unnecessary. I mean,
of course.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Because you and I don't care, but I think it
was it was just I feel like I was seeing
it because it wasn't just a rock sites anymore. People
making it to become something else, like it's Axel changed,
and even the TMZ just calling it, you know Axel.
It's not it's not like Axel signed it, but like
Axel apologizes for Tantrum, like they're even still spinning this.
(56:35):
So that's why. Look, this is why guns and roses,
and it's to my detriment too, why they don't do interviews,
because it's you're damned if you do, you're damned if
you don't. So if you show a little passion, you're
a psycho. If you don't show any passion, you're you
should retire. It's just whatever I could, I could keep
going with you. But I think I think we've we
(56:56):
rehashed this. I really, uh we rehashed this Argentina review,
I think pretty well. So don't cry. Don't cry for
me Argentina.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
No, No, that's the whole point. You you have to
go man to all the people that are watching these
I don't know how many are of us G and
R fans here go to the show right on. Yeah,
it's like they are a great band. You know, they're
not Roses.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
It's it's it's one thing for me to get in
the mic and and to do an episode by myself.
But I wanted to talk to somebody that was there.
I mentioned before. You know, I had some other people volunteer,
and this is just what worked out. Uh. But I
appreciate it because I want to It's I know, I
don't want to just hear myself. I want to hear
the people who were there experiencing real life. You're showing
(57:45):
us your ticket right now there. You know people, Oh
he was his whole story is made up exactly the
ticket right there.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
This is the proof.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
But people will still make it up. Oh that's counterfeit,
and I'm scinded that. Yeah, a beautiful, beautiful man. So
it's again we're all here. That's why I've been so
lucky to do this podcast for so long, to interview
cool rock stars and to meet people like you. We
all do it through Guns n' Roses, and when people
all attack the music and the people that we really
enjoy and give us happiness, in our daily lives, whether
(58:19):
it's a song, whether it's a memory. You're putting on
a on Guns and Roses shirt that day to work
and people are like, yeah, man, I saw them back
and you know not and you're having a conversation. That's
what we're here for. And all those trolls just trying
to say stuff, it's just it's it's laughable. It makes
me laugh. It doesn't bother me more than just I'm
so passionate, Like if I have to teach my son,
(58:40):
if I'm teaching my son not to behave a certain way,
my two and a half year old son, like you
know it, don't you know he's not that all yet. Work.
It's like I'm gonna teach him. If you have nothing
nice to say, don't say it at all. If I
need to say that to you as an adult, there's
a problem you could feel however you want. You could
say it on your own Facebook or whatever.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
You can say it, but okay, that's the person you
want to be good for you anyway, get in the ring.
So Augustine, thank you so much for your time for
I really appreciate it. So that does it for this
episode of appetite for distortion. I want to do more reviews.
So if you go to a show, I know I
(59:20):
haven't had a lot of time this uh this year
with my son, but I'll try to make them work.
If you're going to a show, If you went to
a show and you just really want to talk about
it and it's already you know, maybe a few months
behind you went to one of the shows in Japan
or the UK. You want to talk about it, maybe
we can do something anyway when we see the next episode.
In the words of Axl Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I
(59:41):
don't know. As soon as the word let you see it.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Thanks to the lamb ass security, I'm going home.
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