October 24, 2024 • 59 mins
First: Mike Odd lives up to his name by sharing the unique path to managing a band of fast-food metal mutants, Mac Sabbath. Do Ronald Osborne and Slayer MacCheeze have beef with Snaxl Rose, Slush, and Gilby ClarkBar?
Then: We're joined Diamond Rowe of Tetrarch, the first female Jackson signature guitar artist in heavy music. We talk about what that means to her, Slash as an influence, and why "Estranged" is her favorite Guns N' Roses song.
More info:
https://www.officialmacsabbath.com/
https://www.facebook.com/tetrarchmusic
Pro Series Signature Diamond Rowe: https://shorturl.at/5skWk
Our website: afdpod.com
Then: We're joined Diamond Rowe of Tetrarch, the first female Jackson signature guitar artist in heavy music. We talk about what that means to her, Slash as an influence, and why "Estranged" is her favorite Guns N' Roses song.
More info:
https://www.officialmacsabbath.com/
https://www.facebook.com/tetrarchmusic
Pro Series Signature Diamond Rowe: https://shorturl.at/5skWk
Our website: afdpod.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion. My name is Brando,
Episode number four hundred and seventy nine. Welcome to the podcast.
Mike Odd, the manager of Mac Sabbath. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It is?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I I am so you have no idea how excited
I am to talk to you today, because I mean,
if you follow, because I often get picked up by
like Blackermouth and Ultimate Classic Rock. I'm very in that regard.
But that's the way because of those sites that I
learned about Max Sabbath and learning about this drive through Metal.
(01:09):
This this awesome band that plays the music that I love,
that talks about the food that I love. But unfortunately,
since I turned forty, gives me incredible stomach pains.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So I don't know. Maybe I singing it going to it.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Had twenty either. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm telling you, Mike, I used to I remember this
because I know you only see like the upper part
of me, but I'm like, I'm five six, one hundred
and thirty pounds. You would never guess I ate nothing
but fast food. I remember when one of the fast
food chains came out with like the triple cheeseburger and
I got like two or three of them and the
same day, Like I was disgusting, but I loved it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Anyway, this isn't about me. I want to look.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I was a huge I was cheeseburger obsessed. I had
a limit. Uh you know, people can tell you this
from from early times in even being involved in this band,
or I had a limit of only cheeseburger to cheeseburgers
a day because if I if I didn't limit myself
to to cheeseburgers a day, I would I would eat
(02:16):
three or four. That was my limit to stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It reminds me of of what the character's named Wimpy
from Popeye, you know, gladly pay you today for pay
you Tuesday for Hamburger Today.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
So I would love to know the the origins because
this is sounds like a crazy story of how Max
Sabbath came to be featuring Ronald Osbourne, Slayer mccheese, grimalais
as you saying, grimalis sorry, grimalis malice obviously my favorite
because of a cat guy Cad Burglar. How did these
(02:58):
characters find themselves and start creating this drive through Metal.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
How did this happen?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, what happened to me was I was running an
oddities museum in East Hollywood. It was called the Rosemaries
Billy Goat Auditorium. They call me Mike Odd because I'm
the oddities odd guy. Uh. And when you put yourself
into the reality of weirdness like this, then straight, the
(03:26):
straight world of the strange just keeps following, following you,
whether you like it or not, like long after you
you try to not do that. So what happened is
when I was running the shop, Uh, you just get
these calls from me from whatever weirdos that are like
(03:47):
that are like, hey, come out to Pacoima and and
I'm going to take you out to my shed and
show you my two headed otter skeleton or or whatever
it is, you know. And and you go and it's
and it's interesting, and it's and you're kind of like this,
you know, Hugh Hauser of the Bizarre and and uh.
And then you go and and you buy things from
(04:09):
people and you make deals with them, and and and
so I get Even after I closed the shop, I
still had an online presence and was doing like online
oddities and things and uh. And I get this call
and it's like, oh, come out to Chatsworth, California, to
(04:29):
this burger place that shall remain name once and uh
and it's going to change your life. And I'm like, Oh,
there's some guy who's got like the Virgin Mary toasted
onto a hamburger bun or something, and I'll make a
deal with him and we'll put it online and do
some crazy social media stuff and see if we can
like get an auction going on it or something like that.
(04:52):
You know, that's just what happens in your head. And
it wasn't that at all. It ended up being this
secret fight club style meeting in the middle of the night,
unbeknownst to upper management. And there was this secret turnkey
pass forward that door thing and you go down these
(05:15):
stairs and there's these employees of this particular association that
are all not supposed to be there doing this secret
anti sort of anti fast food thing, performance art, weird
meeting thing that's all against the people that they work for.
(05:38):
And you're like smashed them between like packages of like
hamburger buns and freeze drag condiments, and there was this
curtain that falls and then all of a sudden, there's
these mutated mascots screaming about GMOs and Monsanto and and
(06:01):
slaying these Black Sabbath riffs, and and then and and
then they were like, oh and and and and we
want you to be the manager, you know. And I'm like, oh,
this is like a goof Like I'm like, I must
be on like some hidden camera show. You know, it's
waiting for like Stevo to pop out or something. And
you know, I guess, you know, thinking it was because
(06:23):
I was just a purveyor of the weird or whatever,
but also, you know, I I fronted my own theatrical
uh monster rock band. So I'm like, ah, these guys
just know that I could maybe find the right places
to give give them a couple of gigs in l
A and that'll be it. But that wasn't it. They
(06:46):
made me the manager and and I put them on.
I made a video and I put it online and
uh and then uh, oh my god. Fox News picked
it up first. And then because Fox News picked up
and said all these terrible things about it, you know,
(07:07):
and then all and then all of a sudden, MTV
picked it up, and then Black Sabbath posted it, and
then and then obviously that was it and it went crazy,
and before I took the band out of California, UH
went to England and toured England and played the Download
Festival with Motley Crue, Kissed Slipknot Judas Priest. It was
(07:32):
so it was. It really happened fast and surprise surprised
me so much because I felt like it was this
thing that was like catered to my specific weirdness, and
I thought it would have very small niche of weirdos
that would understand it.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You know, there's a lot more weirdos out there than
I guess. Yeah, we realized as a fellow weirdo. We're
taking about about time and the whole time I'm visualizing,
I mean, you have you still have your hair, but
it sounds like you were kind of like the Captain's Spalding.
Do you remember that uh House of a Thousand Corpses
that that oddities man, those kind of I'm sorry you
(08:15):
had a close up shop. I mean, is your are
you still online? Can give an online presence?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
So of your the stuff that you.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Have, it's there. But now I'm focused on this. Okay,
this is this actually went somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
It's actually, well, you mean the two headed otter didn't
lead you to us riches.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know, you mentioned Captain Spaulding because I had several
dealings with Sid Hag along doing this oh wow and
rose Meri's ability go. The band that I front has
a has our last album, we had Sid Hag do
a voiceover in a song called THEUS Animation Jar, which
(08:52):
is actually about all this stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's so rest in peace, Sid, That's that's very That's
very cool that you u you think of that you
collaborated with him, Very cool.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It was amazing when you talked to I guess I'm
involved with a lot of clowns. When you talk to
Sid Haig personally, it was just like talking to Captain Spaulding, Like,
you know, he is a character actor and he wasn't
deviating from his own character at all. That's just said, Hey, you.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Know, oh, so to to fast forward to fast to
the fast food and how fast this happened?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Like how much time do you.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Think between posting that video online and a fox and
everyone else like was it? You know, everyone says like
it seemed like overnight, but was it like a week
or was it like a day?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Was it amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Probably was a week and it really really seemed like overnight.
It was, like I said, I didn't have time to
book dates outside of California before it got to England,
which was so weird.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
What did the I'm assuming they're guys, I don't know
if I know what the correct pronoun is for entities
the fanst food entities.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But what did Ronald?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I still couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So what did Ronald Osborne and Slayer mccheese and Grimalice.
I wanted to say it right that time in cat Burglar?
What did they have to say? Like they were like,
of course we got Mike Odd. We needed that guy
to get us to the next step. We knew we
were going to be big, and we have this message
just the world wants to hear. Were they surprised by
the sign?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, Ronald doesn't seem surprised by anything, because since he
travels back and forth from UH in time, I think
he acts like he kind of knows it all or whatever,
whether he does or not. But the other guys were
extremely extremely humbled and excited.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, that's so good, so cool, and again just
being a Black Sabbath fan and being a you know,
pun fan, which my fans know, and I actually got
tickets to go uh with song pas. I'm finally gonna
see weird Al next year, you know, great one of
my heroes. Of course, there's a lot of food stuff himself,
(11:07):
but he never he said he didn't want to be
known as the food guy. So he's more than just
eat it and stuff. But I mean with you guys,
obviously you have instead of Iron Man, you have frying pan.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Instead of paradoid. You a pair of buns. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Can you name some of you see your your favorite songs?
And do they ever ask you to collaborate just some
of your favorite songs in general?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh, I help out here and there. But let's see. Uh.
Organic Funeral is a song about the death of real food.
It's a parody of Electric Funeral. Uh, there's a there's
a new one that see that seems almost complicated for
(11:50):
this kind of thing. End of the Void is Drive
Through with Freud and it's about a corporation, you know,
psychologically you know, taking the youth, you know, first five
and psychologically getting in there. And Ronald says, uh, you
(12:12):
you'll get addicted to to nursing from the mother of
all fast food for your whole life or something, you
know what I mean. So it's like all freud Freudian
type thing. So yeah, it gets a little heavy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I like this.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
See it's it's layered, just like just like a special sandwiches. Yeah,
it's a lot of layers and meats and condiments all
within these these songs.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You could say, see I can play along with.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
The with the Yes, there's a video for the songs
Sweet Beef, what is you know? Obviously sweet Leaf?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
More? You know, straightforward.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
If someone hasn't seen the video or hasn't seen what
could they expect from a Mac Sabbath show, is it
Should we be Afraid?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Or what should we go?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Once again, it's layered.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's mutated, you know, mutated fast food mascots doing these
versions of these Black Sabbath songs that are warning you
about the evils of fast food.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And for some people, yeah, they said it comes off
very scary. But at the same point, Ronald makes sure
to make it all kid friendly, so it's not like
there's not sort of the naughty heavy metal things that
you would think would be in a heavy metal parody
band are are not there and are replaced by sort
(13:44):
of sophisticated concepts, if you don't mind me say. But
at the same time, there's you know, birthday party magic happening,
you know, from this clown and a a Arenea size
heavy metal stage show smashed onto a club sized stage.
(14:06):
So there's all these theatrics and these laser eyed clowns,
and and and he's got a he's got a grill
on stage, the burgers while he's singing, and there's he's like,
you know, bouncing burgers, bouncing around on the crowd and stuff.
But what I guess what I was trying to say was,
(14:27):
you know, it also works for kids and parents bringing
their kids, and it's very important for him to keep
it that way so the message can can get it
out to the youth, because that's the most important thing
is to you know, start him young, to try to
unpro deprogrammed them from the cult of the United States
(14:52):
of poisoning the children. You know.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So and I know we're having fun here, but you
you really are telling the truth and the underlying messages
is true. Again, I lived on fast food and it's
just like like an addict. I had, like saying, oh no,
last time it was a bad burger, It's fine, and
I would get it again, and then I would be
able toilet again, and then again it would.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Just keep happening, like no, I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I would have a bad day at work or a
bad day in general, and certain a certain places fries
were like a drug to me. I might as well
just tied like myself off and put a potato in
my elbow.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It was.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It was just I'm obviously exaggerating its head because that
would be really that would hurt. I don't think that
would work. But it's again, there's like underlying message. It's important,
and I'm glad that it's for families because I have
a seventeen month old who I can't wait to start
taking to all these rock concerts. So now I know
I will when next time you guys are in New
(15:52):
York or a long island in my area, I'm going
to take him to see Max Sabbath one hundred percent
and learn a mess and learn not only rock out,
but be entertained and get a message in there.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So you stick French fries.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
We got we got headphones for him already because well,
my wife thought she had to. She had to take
him to Dave Matthews, which is a lot softer. Uh,
But she was like way in the back and she
got a headphones. But like this summer, I wanted to
take him to go Stee Slash, but we were up
(16:26):
real close, so I kind of second guessed it. Although
because you mentioned Motley Crue, now I'm kind of like
I could have taken him. The crew just did a
show at the Troubadour and I see like this woman
in the front row hand her baby to John five
and had headphones on. But he was definitely like a
younger baby than what I would have brought my son. Anyway,
(16:48):
that was like, all right, I hope that's a handing
your baby to Motley Crue.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I don't know if I would go that far.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Maybe John five, out of all of them, to give
your baby too, Maybe he's gone to give him.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
To Yeah, I would agree with that. I actually know,
I actually know John have worked with Johnny's is really nice.
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I'm lucky enough to.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Actually I actually hosted his DVD.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Oh okay, that's all the odd things that you find out,
and it's all this the connections that we find and
I've had John five for the podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
He is a really really nice guy.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh my god, it doesn't come any nicer John five.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, what was it like?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Because you said when it first kind of got off
the ground, and Ozzy is retweeting you, but you the
guys met him right like you had an experience meeting
Ozzie because that's on your YouTube.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well yeah, yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's funny because you know, the band just went a
viral or whatever you call it on on Twitter. Some
this this guy called Spooky Lawyer. I guess I think
this is Moniker on on on X and uh and
he just posted I think he just read posted somebody's
(18:02):
little video and for some reason, his thing went over
six million hits. So there's all these people going, oh,
people are just finding out about Max Sabbath. And then
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, they're not just finding
out about Max Sabbath. It's the ten year anniversary and
seven years ago they were did this thing where they
(18:25):
played for Ozzy and three generations of Osbourne Ozzy, Jack
and Pearl, Uh, Ozzy's granddaughter and uh and uh, you
know Rolling Stone covered it and every you know thing
under rolling stone covered, rolling stones covering it, you know,
and and so it's like so it's like, well, don't
(18:47):
tell me that it's just now hitting you know.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yes, So it's for some.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I guess, for people who only like pay attention to
Twitter or something.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
It's it really is when things do go viral, old
things that I noticed a lot of announm. It sound
like the old guy in the you know, Abraham Simpson
yelling at the cloud. But just the younger generation will
discover something from ten years ago, twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh my god, did you know about this?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I was alive then, but you never complaining, You never know.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I guess that's why you never know. It's like an
It's what's the cool thing about social media that it
really can see so many different eyes and it is
a time and a place sort of thing. Not much,
it's different, but it's almost similar just to being a
band back in the day, where it just was about
the timing and you could have been grinding for years
(19:42):
and years and all of a sudden, it's that one show,
that one connection. Here's that one retweet that gets through
all these people on your on you know, finally taking
a mac digesting Max Sabbath to keep with the theme, So.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Have you has your love of fast food?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I'm assuming he's gone down since working with them, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh no, Yeah, I'm on board. I used to you know,
at the beginning, I thought that all of Ronald's thing
about time traveling to time traveling to now to save
us all from the state of the current state of
music and fast food and music and food, and to
(20:28):
bring us back to a time where it was all
more organic and and all this stuff is you know,
talking screaming and yelling about KFC DC and been a
Bond JOV and how they were taking the food out
of his mouth, and it's like, you know, I was like, oh,
he's just crazy. I don't know if he's crazy or
he's joking or both or what. But as time has
(20:53):
gone on, all the stuff that he not all the stuff,
but most of the stuff that he is that I
thought was just ridiculous nine years ago is all come true,
including like playing a show, in playing a show in
Cleveland and in Burger King Diamond coming out before the
(21:15):
band and playing and doing this thing and then feuding
and him yelling at me about it and saying I
talking to security and they said they didn't know anything
about it. I know they let him in and I'm
like what and he goes, I think they're telling me
a whopper, And I'm like, did you just set this
whole up for the whole thing up for this punchline?
(21:35):
Like what is happening? But but but you know, he
actually was screaming and yelling about fully automated burger places
and robot police and all this stuff like nine years ago.
It's like, yeah, and it's all happening. So I don't know,
maybe we should listen to the clown. I don't know,
(21:56):
you know, maybe he's more prophetic than we thought. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think I might agree with you there. I think
I do.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And you may notice to keep again with the food
theme and keep it with my theme, the six degrees
of Guns n' Roses Bacon.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So we'll figure.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Out what, you know, because I believe that Axel may
have been an inspiration and maybe what's getting to that
in a second, but it's I guess I can't help
this tweet speaking of I call it Twitter or whatever, uh,
because X just again it sounds like I see the
app on my phone. It just looks like a porn app.
I guess it's Twitter forever.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, yeah, I mean Twitter was it? So when you
say Twitter, everybody knows exactly what you mean. X sounds
cooler and all, but there's already a band called X,
and X means a lot of other things.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Correct, correct, but whatever. So on Twitter, I.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Think X got a bad break because it doesn't get
used a lot. So maybe he needed to try to.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Help it out, help out the letter, like on Sesame Street.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
At least you know like they've made it. They made
it start a xylophone, which makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That's a good that's you can't argue with that point.
But I can't help this ex Twitter tweet that lives
in my mind, so you have to quote a tweet.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
This was around when Guns and Roses were finally reuniting,
so I mean, to get technical, the Big three Axle, Slash,
and Duff and everybody confirmed that they were gonna play
Coachella except for Axel, and everybody knows nothing is confirmed
to like unless Axel does it, so he tweets nothing
is confirmed except for my love of taco bell yum yum,
(23:41):
yum yum, and a bunch of like emojis and stuff
like that, and he confirmed Coachella the next day, and
of course guns Roses still together today. But any Taco
Bell I mean for Axl Rose, I'm sure this was.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Roses.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, that sounds like it sounds like one of these
drive through metal bands that Ronald's always going on about about,
Snaxel and Slush and Gilby Clark Bar anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Gill be Clark Bar.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Oh. I love that Coco Organic Funeral, which is a
parody of Electric Funeral. The last line is in it
is corporate lobbyist fry in Hell Forever force fed Taco Bell.
So maybe SNACKXL and Ronald got together on that.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't know, maybe, And I'll tell you this again
to TMI. Taco Bell was the first fast food for
me that I had to say no to. All of
a sudden, the cheesy Gordida crunch just became I might
as well just inject poison into my stomach. I went
from loving it to just being in pain for a while.
(24:57):
So one by one, I guess had a I'll get.
I got one of their fries, Okay, one of the
murmured fries. I'll get, Like, but the burgers and stuff.
So I look forward to you having one made though,
you know.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
A real hager wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a chilopa.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay, well, I gotta ask, though, does does Ronald Osbourne
make them kosher? I mean I'm not kosher, but I'm
curious does he make kosher hamburgers on stage?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
No? None of that. Okay, well let's go back.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's all a simulation I think, to uh reflect his
his bad past. But now he's you know, turned over
a new loaf. And if you actually the the record
Drive Through Metal, it comes in a wrapped in a
(25:50):
wrapped in it comes wrapped in a pop up book.
And do you know about this?
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
This is the only uh the only pop rock I
should grab one pop up book album. There. There have been,
you know, a couple of tries that they they have
one pop up but this actually has multiple complicated extreme
(26:21):
pop up book. And it starts out, well, they're all
in the kitchen and they're you know, killing the animals,
and they're all you know, doing the nasty deeds. And
then they and then the next thing they discover, you know,
the Sabbath, and they are all transformed by you know,
the rock and roll into like a profits and then
(26:46):
and then the next thing, they're like frolicking in a
in like a utopia of vegetables.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You know that's beautiful. Is that is the book pop
up book? Kid friendly or no? Because he said they killing.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Might.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, absolutely, that's the thing with it. You know, it's
like it's like, oh, okay, we're like in the music
business now, guys, so we got to make you know,
streaming things for the streaming services and have MP threes
and stuff. And it's like, you can't talk like that
because they give this anger and confusion and it's like,
you know, we're in the nineteen seventies still, so so
(27:22):
all of a sudden, it's like I have to listen
to what he says. So so the first thing was
a coloring book that came with a flexi disc and
it was a flexi disc single and a coloring book.
And then it was like, okay, so time to really
join the ranks of like the real thing here. It's like, no,
we're gonna have a full LP vinyl in a pop
(27:45):
up book. So it's always got to be for kids,
and it's always got to be analog and I have to,
you know, figure out how I'm going to market the
eight track tape or whatever's coming next.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And you can find everything unofficial macsabbath dot com. And
you guys have socials too cool. And I got to
ask you before I get out of here, just to
keep the focus on you and go back to my theme.
Have you ever seen along your oddities along your career
before Max Sabbath, have you seen guns and roses live
along your path? Because you said you were in a band,
You're a rock and roll guy, so he's curious if
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you Yeah, so when did you gut see GNR.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I've seen gun the roads several times. I saw them
open for the stones at the coliseum. Uh in the
eighties eighty nine? Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, steel wheels and
all that and and uh, I mean you know, I
was up at the very top and it was raining.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
So oh well when I say I saw it, I
was I was like, you know, it might be better
to go home and watch this, watch a video or something,
not pneumonia.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But no, yeah, I've seen I've seen several manifestation of
guns and roses along the years. Last time I saw
them was at Dodger stadium. I'm really bad with years,
but I can tell you this. The Cult opened and
the Cult went on at six thirty and ended at
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ended at six fifty nine, and they all looked sunburnt
because I don't think they were used to like being.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Out in because they're all English boys.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Yeah, English goth kids, so.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
They're all sunburn. And they edit six fifty nine, and
then the stage was dark for i'd say two and
a half hours maybe, and they came out at nine.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
The good old days of Guns and Roses Man.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Naxley, you gotta like you know, well, they're a lot
faster now, just like fast food. They they're they're there
on time, and oh really it's.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
All it's all been in streamlines.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh yeah, all of been streamlines, just like the whole
process fast food business. They're in, they're out, you know,
it's it's fun. Yeah, but it's not as unpredictable like
so certain fast food is and how Guns of ROAs
used to be. So sometimes the unpredictable is good. Other
times you end up in the bathroom all night.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I don't know if you well, you know that two
and a half hours you sell a lot of dozer Dogs.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know exactly, Mike, This really was a pleasure. It
was awesome meeting you, and I hope we get to
do this again.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Absolutely hanging in rather than just going a bunch of
songs together. We think are fine, We're going over it.
You know where to find too, Calmly, just working on
everything to try. That's the go.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Very appetite for discovery now, so one of my favorite
segments of Appetite for Distortion Appetite for discovery, where we
kind of open up our purview for the guns of
Roses fan that may not know all the great music
that's out there, but for me, as long as it's
guitar driven, it's great. And we have that with Diamond
(31:06):
Row of tech Trark. How are you welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Thank you for having me. I'm doing pretty good. What
about yourself?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I had to get it out right away with the
name of the band tech Trark, because you said this
is your third interview that you've done, and I'm really Look,
I've been a radio for twenty years, but I'm terrible
with names. I have to practice it, like I have
something wrong with I have to practice saying things, and
I take pride in it and if I mess up,
(31:35):
I just own it now. So I went to Google
and I was just practicing the Google pronunciation of tech tark.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Like that's amazing because I will say, like, now, like
now that we are on our third you know, third
record is coming, I feel like now a lot of
people and a lot of you know, publications impressed that
I talked to. Everyone says the name pretty much correctly.
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But when we started it, like when we were kids
and we started touring, we got like we would pull
up to venues and they would have on the like
you know, they'll put like a marquee or like they'll
put and they would put like tech art and like
tetch trie arch and they would I'm like, did y'all
not look at the way it's even spelled, or like
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people will call us tech chart and it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
So we've heard everything, so now it's like now that.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
We start to hear more people say it right, I'm like, oh,
it's just so great.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's a sign that you made it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I was just hoping that I say pterodactyl by accidents.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But to go back, it's definitely getting better. It's definitely
getting better.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Well, they go back to the beginnings at the beginning
of tech Arch before we talk to about you know,
your your deal with Gibson uh to talk about what's
coming for the band and for you. You were this
is a band out of Atlanta, Georgia, Right, So where
did you start? Like, how did a bunch of kids
come up with that that name? And then how did
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take us to the origin story of tetrarc How did
that happen?
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Yeah, So basically I went to a small like private
school starting in seventh grade. It was like a Christian
private school, so we had I had to wear a
skirt and a polo shirt like so, but it wasn't
a huge school.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So it was like basically it was kindergarten through twelve.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
And he like elementary had you know, a building, middle
school had like a building, and then high school had
a building.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But we all basically knew each other. There was only like.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Between fifty and seventy something kids in a grade. So
basically when I was in seventh grade, I met this
girl that was in my brother's grade who was like
a little bit older than me, and she, you know
how like when you become friends with someone who's a
little older than you.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You kind of look up to them. You're like, oh,
they're so cool, especially when you're a kid.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
And she was really into like she was always talking
about like Pearl Jam and like she listened to all
kinds of rock like Thrice and you know whatever, but
she was always talking about Nirvana and Kirk Cobain, like
she was obsessed with Kurt Cobain. And I finally one
day was like, you know what I'm gonna go listen
to because that's time. I was listening to just whatever's
(34:23):
on the radio, hip hop in scene, didn't matter, whatever,
and I was like, I'm gonna go listen to this
Nirvana band whatever. So I had my mom take me
to the store and I got Nirvana's greatest hits, and
I also was like, I'm just gonna get one more CD.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I've heard a system of a down, Here's Toxicity. I'm
just gonna get it. I don't know what it sounds like,
but i'm gonna grab it. So those are the two
albums that.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
I bought, and from that point on, I was kind
of like, Okay, this is something that like I just
want to get into, like cool heavy music, Like I
don't know why again I always say that, but it's
just I was like, I want to get into this.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It seems.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It wasn't like some sort of lightning bolt that came
down and be like whoa this world of grunge and
rock and.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Roll that I or it was just like this seems cool.
I wanted to be a part of this. It was
that nice a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It was probably like a little bit of both.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Like I'm a pretty like unfazed person, but I think
I was just I thought it was cool, and I
thought it was cooler than I expected to. I think,
you know, like I I liked it more than I
expected to like it. So I was like, I'm gonna
dig deeper.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
In this, you know, and I wanted you know, you're
still young, so you don't have like.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
This like strong identity identity yet as a kid, you're
still like searching for like who you are. And I
think it gave me this instant feeling of like this
could be, you know, like a part of my identity,
like becoming like a kid that's like into this. I
don't know, I didn't think that far. I don't think,
(35:55):
but now sitting here right now, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know, maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
But anyway, so to make a long story short, I like,
whenever I get into something, I'm one of those people
who I want to partake in it, you know. I
don't want to just be like, oh, I'm a fan
of this band. Like I'm like, all right, cool, I
want to play an instrument. So I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Know, mom, I want to play guitar. She took me
and got me lessons, like probably the next weekend.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
And there was only one kid in my grade who
played guitar too and liked rock.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And I was Josh, and who's in my band now?
And we just you know, he.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Was used to jam with this other kid we were
friends with you. I was closer to the other guy
named Tyler, so I asked him.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I was like, hey, can I like jam with you guys,
you know, join your band?
Speaker 7 (36:40):
And he's like, let me ask Josh, you know, And
Josh said no because he didn't he didn't want.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
A girl in the band.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
So I like I remember being like crushed, and I
like went home and told my dad and I was like,
he said I couldn't be in the band because I'm
a girl and all this stuff. So you know, anyway,
He eventually ended up letting me come over and jam,
and the rest was history.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Like we jammed once in like our.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Drummer's parents' basement where we used to practice, and Tetrark
was born.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
You know, we didn't come up with that name right away.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
We came up with it in history class, maybe like
two years later, but that's where Tetrark started.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Essentially.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
That's very cool.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I know you're not supposed to ask a lady this,
but how old were you when you got the greatest
hits of Nirvana and Toxicity?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was eleven eleven?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, yeah, because I.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
No, no, no, no, when I got the grade, uh.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
A little older than that. I was probably.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Fifteen somewhere between my early high school years in late
middle school years.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Okay, yeah, because I was. I was in middle school
when Nirvana was happening, and then that was you know,
ten to eleven when that was new.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, you know MTV playing when they've actually played videos
and being like what is this? You know, I just
still sound Garden, just like their black Hole Sun video.
I just remember watching it an MTV and just being like, whoa,
what is this? And much like you you're trying to
find an identity, and like rock somehow became a part
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of my identity all the way to this day.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
So I do get that.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
It wasn't like I sat down and be like like
you I'm like, oh, I'm gonna make this, but it
was cool, like rock is cool. And I'm still like
rock is cool.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
So yeah, And I was like a little behind the
wave because like those albums and stuff have been out
for a little while, but like I was just discovering
them like they had come out, you know, the day before,
like you know what I mean, Like they it just
like they rocked my world. And especially when I started,
when I really thrust myself into it, all it was
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game over.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, it's it's I'd love that and it shows the
power of good music because it is new at some point,
because I have a one and a half year old
and it's going to be new to him too. Yeah,
So I love hearing that. And that's on this podcast,
I interview people young and old, and we all kind
of meet in the middle of just great music. It
doesn't matter when you get into it. If you're just
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getting into it is all that matters. And especially it
would have been like one thing just to be a fan,
but for you to go head first and let you
play the guitar. Were you playing in any instrument at
the time?
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Were you musical? Is your family musical?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So I play?
Speaker 7 (39:42):
I was actually in like the school band. I played
the most opposite instrument. I played the flute.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And I don't you know, I look back and I'm like,
I don't know why I picked the flute, but I
picked the flute.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
And my parents, like my mom can sing really well,
like she she and like both of my parents are
very into music. My dad's in the music business, but
he can't play an instrument to save his life. So like,
music was definitely a part of my family, but no
one else like played a physical instrument, you know, in
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my household.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But me, how long did it take for you to
kind of almost become a master at it? And again,
we're getting to a point where you have partnered with
Jackson Guitars. It's not like you're just a guitarist who
just plays. You were one of the premiere. Like people
were looking at you as the I don't want to
say up and coming. Even though you're kind of still
(40:39):
establishing yourself, You've been doing it for a bit. For
lack of a better phrase, up and coming guitarists.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
How did you get to that?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I mean, it's one thing again if you were started
at three years old, but just to pick it up
and just when did you know? Like was it easy
for you or was it did it take a lot
to learn?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I hate saying it was easy for me because.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Like I or natural? Was it natural for you?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Shit, you know it was always I felt natural for me.
And I don't know if that's because I.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Played the flute so like my you know, and I
was an athlete, so like like my finger dexterity and stuff.
I'm not sure, but I never had like that awkward
guitar phase where you know, like people will be like,
teach me a chord and like I'll put it on
their laugh and show them and their fingers are just
like like I never I never had that phase, you
(41:31):
know what I mean, Like when my guitar teacher something
would show me something.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I remember it being like you said, pretty natural feeling.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
I never once I got like because the day of
my first lesson, my mom bought me like this really
cheap knockoff telecaster. It was like one hundred dollars just
you know, they to see if I'd stick with it.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And I remember I.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Played that guitar for probably like ten hours a day,
mental like on the on the like shore, and like
I would take it to the bathroom, I would take
it to the dinner table, I would take it if
we went to someone's house, I would take it, like
and it was just an electric that I would just
take everywhere with me and I would play it. I
played it into the ground, you know, just learning my
(42:14):
favorite songs. So I think it was just it always
felt really natural to me, and it started off as
I made it. I made it a fun thing, you
know what I mean, Like I learned songs I loved.
I didn't start guitar by just being like, okay, what
modes and skills.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Can I learn? Like I would have been like this sucks,
you know.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
So yeah, I think I always have just played guitar
in a way that I enjoy. So I saw myself
getting better just by doing that, and I think that's
what kept me and still keeps me so motivated.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
You know, who did you look toward for guitarists to
be influenced by or to kind of you know, look up.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
To Yeah, I talk about it a lot, Like you
know how some people get into heavy music and they'll
find like a subgenre or a sector of metal or
hard rock and they'll just live in that. I was
all over the place, like I was a complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I was just like, give me all of the hard
rock and metal you can throw at me.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
So first and foremost it was definitely Metallica, like I
always say, like I feel like I learned to play
guitar to the Master of Puppets record, like I had
the tab book and as bad or as good as
it probably as bad as it probably sounded like, I
just took it as slow as possible and I was
just learning like my favorite riffs, so obviously I always.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Have to credit them.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
But at the same time I was getting into slip
knots and corns and linkor Parking Disturbed, And then at
the same time it was Trivium and guns n' roses
a lot of slash, which is I think why I
play single cuts and like Less Paul shapes now is
because he was such a like I won my first
(44:08):
guitar was a Gibson Less Paul Standard when I was thirteen,
My parents got it for me for Christmas because.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I was like a big slash fan, but.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Him, Alexi Lejo and Opeth, Like I was just playing
any metal in any band.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Or any song I was playing.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
But like I would say my biggest if I had
to narrow them down, it would just be like Kirk Hammett.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
It would be like.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Mark Mortan from Lamb of God, slash Head and Monkey
from Corn.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Dying Back.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
Just yeah, Matt Heathy from Trivium just kind of like
all over all over the place.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I love it. I mean, I enjoy all those bands.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I never understood why those people who were just kind
of married to one genre. You're kind of really limiting yourself.
You're not kind of you aren't limiting yourself. So I
think for so many reasons, you're the perfect person to
people you might It's almost funny that you were what
seemed may not be that long ago. You're teaching yourself
(45:10):
how to play guitar. I'm sure a lot of people
come to you now and say, can you teach me
how to do this?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Does that happen all the time?
Speaker 7 (45:18):
And I will say one thing that I might have
been gifted with, like being able.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
To play guitar.
Speaker 7 (45:24):
But I am a horrible teacher, Like I am, like,
I'm so bad at teaching things. When someone asked me
to teach them something, I'm like, trust me, you don't
want that. It's really hard for me to explain things.
But I do get that a lot. And people will
be like, can you And it is so funny because
the question is so broad. They'll be like, can you
teach me how to play guitar?
Speaker 3 (45:45):
And I'm just like, that's a very broad question, so broad.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
I'd rather you just be like, can you teach me
how to play smells like teen Spirit?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I can do that, you.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Know, exactly. Narrowed down a little bit for me.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, please.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
So I mean with that, uh, I'm not a musician,
I'm not a guitarist. I'm not going to ask you
to teach me guitar. But I'm gonna ask you to
kind of explain this, uh, this deal with the Jackson
guitars to me, because I'm not going to pretend I'm cool,
uh and and know what I'm talking about. But so
Jackson Guitars, and I love how the one sheet calls
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and it's true that you are a modern metal powerhouse
Diamond Row you are. Uh So it's an all new
Diamond Row Pro series signature guitar. Uh and you are
the first female Jackson Signature guitarist artist and the first
African American female signature artist in heavy music. You alluded
(46:41):
to before that you were not in this, you weren't
allowed in the band because you were a girl initially,
and look at now you're precoming your your breaking class ceilings.
When when I say that, how does that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I mean really good. I probably sound like a broken
record with people ask me this, but it's.
Speaker 7 (47:01):
So true, Like I have gotten to this point by
just being authentically myself, like getting into heavy music and
guitar and letting that passion drive me to this point.
It wasn't something which I know a lot of people
like to say when they get mad online and they're
like who is this person? They think it's like this
(47:22):
fabricated thing that like I'm some plant or something, and
I'm like, if only you knew. But it's just really
cool that like I started this like as an eleven
year old, twelve year old kid who just heavy music
just resonated with me and gave me a home and
a place to feel like just like completely like myself
(47:46):
and to now just be at this point where it's
like I can maybe influence other people to feel the same,
or other kids to feel the same, and be a.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Part of a community that gave me so much too.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
It feels amazing and as it should, and I hope
we get to a point. I mean, there's because there
has to be a first. But now in twenty twenty four,
where anyone talks about women in metal or African American
and metal, I mean, it's just it's for everybody. I
don't really think it's the way it used to be.
I don't think so. I think it's really for everyone.
(48:20):
The amount of female guitarists out there are incredible, Yeah,
I mean the fact that you see Iced Tea out
there still kicking ass with body count, I mean that's incredible. So,
I mean it's it's nice to be the first, but
I think at some point it's gonna be even nicer
where you're just one of the gang. You're just wugging
other you're just a guitarist and having fun. Is am
(48:41):
I wrong in thinking that? Like, because not interviews probably
ask you what is it like being a girl in
a band, it's I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
I know a lot of people that that really bothers,
you know, like they're like, I hate that question. Like
most women I know in having me music or you know,
in bands or artists, they.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Hate that question.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
I don't hate that question, and I think because I
don't put such a negative connotation on it, I feel
like it's been a blessing in disguise for me and
our band, to in my band, To be honest, like,
it's just been like whereas maybe people wouldn't have paid
attention before, I think it made people pay attention. And
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it was every band I feel like, has something different
about them. Every successful band there's something about them that
draws attention to that band, and like I've been a
big part of that for tech Tark, just like making
people want to, you know, check them out, whereas maybe
they wouldn't before.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
They're like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
So when someone asked me that question, I don't I
don't really look at it as a as a negative thing,
negative thing, and I think it's just because of my experience.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
But I do think it's cool to see so.
Speaker 7 (49:57):
Many you know, girls and women now publicly plan I'm
sure they've always played guitar to some extent or but
being able to see so many out there, and I
just remember going to shows in high school and stuff,
and like my friends would be like, you're like the
only black person here, and I don't even notice, Like
I'm just like, oh really, I just was so like
enthralled by why I was there, which was the bands
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and the music and the whole experience and the crowd
and the crowd surfing and that like it was also new.
I didn't even pay attention to anything.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Else, you know. So I think I'm a little weird
and a little different in that regard, but.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
It's the weird I think we all should strive to be.
And I'm not just blowing smoke because you're just it's
showing you the music and the passion just comes from within.
It's not what the color of your skin is. It's
not what's under your you know, under your dress or
on your pants or whatever. It's just the music and
(50:56):
the fact that you just have that mentality and you
don't you haven't been two sidetracked by it. I know
you said you were a little bummed when you were
you told your dad I'm a girl, they won't let
me in the band.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
But at this point you've.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Proven yourself and you're gonna continue to prove yourself. I
have a lot of gearheads that listen to this show,
so I guess again, I don't play, so if you could.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Just explain what this means.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
So the Diamond Pro Series, which is gonna be a
d R twelve MG evt N six features and EverTune bridge,
black chrome covered active EMG eighty one slash not that
slash eighty one slash eighty five, Uh, terrible joke, humbucking pickups,
(51:38):
and a dark rose finish with a new custom three
plus three color matched Jackson headstock. I only understood Jackson
and Diamond Rose within that.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
So please the name in.
Speaker 7 (51:52):
The name you said, Uh, the R twelve, which Diamond
Road twelve was my favorite number, so they asked me
to put a number there and I was like, it
has to be twelve. I was my softball number I
played for a long time. So the EVTN or whatever
that's ever Tune, that's the type of bridge that's on
my guitar six a six string, and then the three
(52:17):
plus three headstock means that there's three tuning pegs on
each side of the headstock, so you know how like
some it's like in a line or yeah mineor like three.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
And three so you taught me something.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
And the EMG eighty one eighty five that's my pickup set.
So those are the pickups I have my guitar.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
How many guitars do you have?
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Probably not as.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
Many as like a lot of guitar players out there,
probably have, going towards.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Forty maybe that's a good number, yeah something, probably something
like that.
Speaker 7 (52:53):
They're in multiple places though, like I have a bunch
at our practice space, you know, like my touring rig
those guitars, and then I have some here and my house,
and then I have some that obviously I don't use,
but that are my parents' house in Georgia. You know
that I had like my Kirk Hammet signatures and my
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dying back all those guitars that were just like from
when I was a kid are all all there. So yeah,
they're they're kind of spread out, so I'd have to
do it an inventory count, honestly for sure.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Sweet.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
So when are we going to see to to kind
of wrap things up here? When are we going to
see you whether, I mean, do you don't do anything
outside of Tetrark, right?
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Is it just Tetrark?
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah? So when are we going to see you out
and about with the band again?
Speaker 7 (53:44):
Beginning first quarter of twenty twenty five will be starting
like our touring cycle and we'll probably be on the
road for I would say the next year and a
half at least, so a lot of touring starting right.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Into next year. So we're hoping to you go pretty
much everywhere.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Cool yo, and you just released a new song which
is live not fantasized. I like The Way That Flows,
which has a million views in less than three weeks.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
M h.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
I mean I think you're pretty popular.
Speaker 7 (54:18):
Yeah, crazy, you know, I don't know, like now, I
just like I see things and I'm just like, how.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Is this happening?
Speaker 7 (54:26):
But you know, at the same time, I'm not going
to jinx anything. I'm just like, I'm really honored and
I'm so excited about everything that's happening and how excited other.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
People are and how many people are paying attention.
Speaker 7 (54:39):
And it just goes back to what we talked about
in the beginning, just like being these kids that have
this dream of all this stuff that's happening now, you know,
and just hoping that you even got like an ounce
of that, you know what I mean as a kid,
and now to be here, it's awesome, So like I'm
really excited about what's to come.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
It just seems to keep growing and keep getting and bigger.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
So sweet, and I can't wait to see what's next.
Oh and just before we wrap up, I got to
ask and Slashes one of your your favorites, have a
favorite riff of his solo of his or maybe a
Guns of Roses song in general, just so to appease
my fan base.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, that's a loaded question.
Speaker 7 (55:19):
But I and you've probably heard this multiple times, but
one thing that sticks out in my head that I
used to watch all the time on my Guns and
Roses DVD was Slash Slash his solo he did the
Godfather theme sure, And then also I love his parts
and estranged, Like I just think that it's so sick
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and like vibe and like kind of like uneasy feeling
or whatever. And I remember learning that as a kid,
just that I don't know those leads and that solo
and everything just really resonated with me and still does
to this day, So I.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
Think you picked up a few GNR fans because it's
stranged more often than not. Is like when I talk
to my listeners, is their favorite song? Really it's kind
of crazy. It's not all the it's not the radio hits,
you know, it's it's strange. That's more than it so funny.
It's just it really shows just it's just like an
amazing because I mean I personally love November Raey because
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I'm a little bit of boring, you know, I don't
like anything on my Hamburger whatever. But I mean it's strange.
It's just such this with especially with the video and
just again our music, you know, musically it's just it
is and an Axle's voice.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
So yeah, I mean you can't go wrong there, man. Absolutely,
it's so sick.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
It's such a dynamic song too, and like, I don't know,
I just whenever now I think of Slash, like if
someone is talking to me about GNR and Slash, because
I also went through a huge like Velve Revolver, like
Phase two the Slash, but gn R I always think
like estranged and and.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Like, yeah, I don't know, this is a great, great one.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Yeah, Velvet two, I just had a again.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I had Dave Kushner on the on the podcast, who
sometimes have to I have to say the other guitarist
who's not Slash and Velvet and Revolver guy. I know,
the nicest guy. But I like my wife who doesn't know.
I'm like, yeah, he's the other guy.
Speaker 7 (57:14):
I'm sorry he played with Slash and they're like, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
But she's also when I took her to see Guns
and Roses for the first time, she's like, who's that.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
I'm like, that's dough. I'm sorry. No, I'm like, I'm sorry, honey,
he's really hot. All right, Well his wife is hot too.
I can't say yeah right.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
She's like, wait a minute, hold on, now.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I started, you started it awesome. Oh and you said
this off the air. I just want to let it go.
By the way side. You were on the same bill
as Slash was Yeah.
Speaker 7 (57:44):
We played Exit one eleven and yeah Tennessee, like right
outside Nashville.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Oh yeah, back and they were on it and uh.
Speaker 7 (57:55):
The same day we played as well, so we got
to got to watch them that night after our SI.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
So I really think it's a matter of time. I'm
gonna put this into existence. Until Slash reaches out to
you and you guys become friends. Because I've spoken to
a few of the artists on his blues festival and
they're kind of like the same where they like me
Slashes because he texts them and he knows he has
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his eye for finding talent, and it's gonna happen, Diamond,
and there's gonna be a Slash diamond, whether it's on
the next Blues record or it's the next Slash record.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
I'm gonna will it.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Into existence because you're passionate about music, you could tell,
and he is. And we got to get all the
guitar heroes together.
Speaker 4 (58:39):
That's I know, you know.
Speaker 7 (58:40):
And it's funny you say that because my parents have
always said that, and I think because like they watched
me grow up and they were there for the Slash phase, you.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Know, but they like are always like.
Speaker 7 (58:53):
You're going to like you and Slash are going to connect,
Like they're so like sure of this thing, and I'm like,
you know, hey, you never know, it would be it
would be awesome. That would be a great one, another
very full circle moment. So I hope, So, I hope
you're right.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Well, next time you're on we'll talk about that experience.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Right, let's do it. I like that idea.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Thank you, Diamond for your time. It was great to
meet you, and I hope we get to do this again.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
So that does it with this episode of Appetite for Distortion?
Speaker 4 (59:23):
When will you see the next one?
Speaker 3 (59:25):
In the words of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion. My name is Brando,
Episode number four hundred and seventy nine. Welcome to the podcast.
Mike Odd, the manager of Mac Sabbath. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It is?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I I am so you have no idea how excited
I am to talk to you today, because I mean,
if you follow, because I often get picked up by
like Blackermouth and Ultimate Classic Rock. I'm very in that regard.
But that's the way because of those sites that I
learned about Max Sabbath and learning about this drive through Metal.
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This this awesome band that plays the music that I love,
that talks about the food that I love. But unfortunately,
since I turned forty, gives me incredible stomach pains.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So I don't know. Maybe I singing it going to it.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Had twenty either. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm telling you, Mike, I used to I remember this
because I know you only see like the upper part
of me, but I'm like, I'm five six, one hundred
and thirty pounds. You would never guess I ate nothing
but fast food. I remember when one of the fast
food chains came out with like the triple cheeseburger and
I got like two or three of them and the
same day, Like I was disgusting, but I loved it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Anyway, this isn't about me. I want to look.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I was a huge I was cheeseburger obsessed. I had
a limit. Uh you know, people can tell you this
from from early times in even being involved in this band,
or I had a limit of only cheeseburger to cheeseburgers
a day because if I if I didn't limit myself
to to cheeseburgers a day, I would I would eat
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three or four. That was my limit to stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It reminds me of of what the character's named Wimpy
from Popeye, you know, gladly pay you today for pay
you Tuesday for Hamburger Today.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
So I would love to know the the origins because
this is sounds like a crazy story of how Max
Sabbath came to be featuring Ronald Osbourne, Slayer mccheese, grimalais
as you saying, grimalis sorry, grimalis malice obviously my favorite
because of a cat guy Cad Burglar. How did these
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characters find themselves and start creating this drive through Metal.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
How did this happen?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, what happened to me was I was running an
oddities museum in East Hollywood. It was called the Rosemaries
Billy Goat Auditorium. They call me Mike Odd because I'm
the oddities odd guy. Uh. And when you put yourself
into the reality of weirdness like this, then straight, the
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straight world of the strange just keeps following, following you,
whether you like it or not, like long after you
you try to not do that. So what happened is
when I was running the shop, Uh, you just get
these calls from me from whatever weirdos that are like
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that are like, hey, come out to Pacoima and and
I'm going to take you out to my shed and
show you my two headed otter skeleton or or whatever
it is, you know. And and you go and it's
and it's interesting, and it's and you're kind of like this,
you know, Hugh Hauser of the Bizarre and and uh.
And then you go and and you buy things from
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people and you make deals with them, and and and
so I get Even after I closed the shop, I
still had an online presence and was doing like online
oddities and things and uh. And I get this call
and it's like, oh, come out to Chatsworth, California, to
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this burger place that shall remain name once and uh
and it's going to change your life. And I'm like, Oh,
there's some guy who's got like the Virgin Mary toasted
onto a hamburger bun or something, and I'll make a
deal with him and we'll put it online and do
some crazy social media stuff and see if we can
like get an auction going on it or something like that.
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You know, that's just what happens in your head. And
it wasn't that at all. It ended up being this
secret fight club style meeting in the middle of the night,
unbeknownst to upper management. And there was this secret turnkey
pass forward that door thing and you go down these
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stairs and there's these employees of this particular association that
are all not supposed to be there doing this secret
anti sort of anti fast food thing, performance art, weird
meeting thing that's all against the people that they work for.
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And you're like smashed them between like packages of like
hamburger buns and freeze drag condiments, and there was this
curtain that falls and then all of a sudden, there's
these mutated mascots screaming about GMOs and Monsanto and and
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slaying these Black Sabbath riffs, and and then and and
then they were like, oh and and and and we
want you to be the manager, you know. And I'm like, oh,
this is like a goof Like I'm like, I must
be on like some hidden camera show. You know, it's
waiting for like Stevo to pop out or something. And
you know, I guess, you know, thinking it was because
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I was just a purveyor of the weird or whatever,
but also, you know, I I fronted my own theatrical
uh monster rock band. So I'm like, ah, these guys
just know that I could maybe find the right places
to give give them a couple of gigs in l
A and that'll be it. But that wasn't it. They
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made me the manager and and I put them on.
I made a video and I put it online and
uh and then uh, oh my god. Fox News picked
it up first. And then because Fox News picked up
and said all these terrible things about it, you know,
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and then all and then all of a sudden, MTV
picked it up, and then Black Sabbath posted it, and
then and then obviously that was it and it went crazy,
and before I took the band out of California, UH
went to England and toured England and played the Download
Festival with Motley Crue, Kissed Slipknot Judas Priest. It was
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so it was. It really happened fast and surprise surprised
me so much because I felt like it was this
thing that was like catered to my specific weirdness, and
I thought it would have very small niche of weirdos
that would understand it.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You know, there's a lot more weirdos out there than
I guess. Yeah, we realized as a fellow weirdo. We're
taking about about time and the whole time I'm visualizing,
I mean, you have you still have your hair, but
it sounds like you were kind of like the Captain's Spalding.
Do you remember that uh House of a Thousand Corpses
that that oddities man, those kind of I'm sorry you
(08:15):
had a close up shop. I mean, is your are
you still online? Can give an online presence?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
So of your the stuff that you.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Have, it's there. But now I'm focused on this. Okay,
this is this actually went somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
It's actually, well, you mean the two headed otter didn't
lead you to us riches.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know, you mentioned Captain Spaulding because I had several
dealings with Sid Hag along doing this oh wow and
rose Meri's ability go. The band that I front has
a has our last album, we had Sid Hag do
a voiceover in a song called THEUS Animation Jar, which
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is actually about all this stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's so rest in peace, Sid, That's that's very That's
very cool that you u you think of that you
collaborated with him, Very cool.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It was amazing when you talked to I guess I'm
involved with a lot of clowns. When you talk to
Sid Haig personally, it was just like talking to Captain Spaulding, Like,
you know, he is a character actor and he wasn't
deviating from his own character at all. That's just said, Hey, you.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Know, oh, so to to fast forward to fast to
the fast food and how fast this happened?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Like how much time do you.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Think between posting that video online and a fox and
everyone else like was it? You know, everyone says like
it seemed like overnight, but was it like a week
or was it like a day?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Was it amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Probably was a week and it really really seemed like overnight.
It was, like I said, I didn't have time to
book dates outside of California before it got to England,
which was so weird.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
What did the I'm assuming they're guys, I don't know
if I know what the correct pronoun is for entities
the fanst food entities.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But what did Ronald?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I still couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So what did Ronald Osborne and Slayer mccheese and Grimalice.
I wanted to say it right that time in cat Burglar?
What did they have to say? Like they were like,
of course we got Mike Odd. We needed that guy
to get us to the next step. We knew we
were going to be big, and we have this message
just the world wants to hear. Were they surprised by
the sign?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, Ronald doesn't seem surprised by anything, because since he
travels back and forth from UH in time, I think
he acts like he kind of knows it all or whatever,
whether he does or not. But the other guys were
extremely extremely humbled and excited.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, that's so good, so cool, and again just
being a Black Sabbath fan and being a you know,
pun fan, which my fans know, and I actually got
tickets to go uh with song pas. I'm finally gonna
see weird Al next year, you know, great one of
my heroes. Of course, there's a lot of food stuff himself,
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but he never he said he didn't want to be
known as the food guy. So he's more than just
eat it and stuff. But I mean with you guys,
obviously you have instead of Iron Man, you have frying pan.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Instead of paradoid. You a pair of buns. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Can you name some of you see your your favorite songs?
And do they ever ask you to collaborate just some
of your favorite songs in general?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh, I help out here and there. But let's see. Uh.
Organic Funeral is a song about the death of real food.
It's a parody of Electric Funeral. Uh, there's a there's
a new one that see that seems almost complicated for
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this kind of thing. End of the Void is Drive
Through with Freud and it's about a corporation, you know,
psychologically you know, taking the youth, you know, first five
and psychologically getting in there. And Ronald says, uh, you
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you'll get addicted to to nursing from the mother of
all fast food for your whole life or something, you
know what I mean. So it's like all freud Freudian
type thing. So yeah, it gets a little heavy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I like this.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
See it's it's layered, just like just like a special sandwiches. Yeah,
it's a lot of layers and meats and condiments all
within these these songs.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You could say, see I can play along with.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
The with the Yes, there's a video for the songs
Sweet Beef, what is you know? Obviously sweet Leaf?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
More? You know, straightforward.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
If someone hasn't seen the video or hasn't seen what
could they expect from a Mac Sabbath show, is it
Should we be Afraid?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Or what should we go?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Once again, it's layered.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's mutated, you know, mutated fast food mascots doing these
versions of these Black Sabbath songs that are warning you
about the evils of fast food.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And for some people, yeah, they said it comes off
very scary. But at the same point, Ronald makes sure
to make it all kid friendly, so it's not like
there's not sort of the naughty heavy metal things that
you would think would be in a heavy metal parody
band are are not there and are replaced by sort
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of sophisticated concepts, if you don't mind me say. But
at the same time, there's you know, birthday party magic happening,
you know, from this clown and a a Arenea size
heavy metal stage show smashed onto a club sized stage.
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So there's all these theatrics and these laser eyed clowns,
and and and he's got a he's got a grill
on stage, the burgers while he's singing, and there's he's like,
you know, bouncing burgers, bouncing around on the crowd and stuff.
But what I guess what I was trying to say was,
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you know, it also works for kids and parents bringing
their kids, and it's very important for him to keep
it that way so the message can can get it
out to the youth, because that's the most important thing
is to you know, start him young, to try to
unpro deprogrammed them from the cult of the United States
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of poisoning the children. You know.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So and I know we're having fun here, but you
you really are telling the truth and the underlying messages
is true. Again, I lived on fast food and it's
just like like an addict. I had, like saying, oh no,
last time it was a bad burger, It's fine, and
I would get it again, and then I would be
able toilet again, and then again it would.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Just keep happening, like no, I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I would have a bad day at work or a
bad day in general, and certain a certain places fries
were like a drug to me. I might as well
just tied like myself off and put a potato in
my elbow.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It was.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It was just I'm obviously exaggerating its head because that
would be really that would hurt. I don't think that
would work. But it's again, there's like underlying message. It's important,
and I'm glad that it's for families because I have
a seventeen month old who I can't wait to start
taking to all these rock concerts. So now I know
I will when next time you guys are in New
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York or a long island in my area, I'm going
to take him to see Max Sabbath one hundred percent
and learn a mess and learn not only rock out,
but be entertained and get a message in there.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So you stick French fries.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
We got we got headphones for him already because well,
my wife thought she had to. She had to take
him to Dave Matthews, which is a lot softer. Uh,
But she was like way in the back and she
got a headphones. But like this summer, I wanted to
take him to go Stee Slash, but we were up
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real close, so I kind of second guessed it. Although
because you mentioned Motley Crue, now I'm kind of like
I could have taken him. The crew just did a
show at the Troubadour and I see like this woman
in the front row hand her baby to John five
and had headphones on. But he was definitely like a
younger baby than what I would have brought my son. Anyway,
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that was like, all right, I hope that's a handing
your baby to Motley Crue.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I don't know if I would go that far.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Maybe John five, out of all of them, to give
your baby too, Maybe he's gone to give him.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
To Yeah, I would agree with that. I actually know,
I actually know John have worked with Johnny's is really nice.
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I'm lucky enough to.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Actually I actually hosted his DVD.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Oh okay, that's all the odd things that you find out,
and it's all this the connections that we find and
I've had John five for the podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
He is a really really nice guy.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh my god, it doesn't come any nicer John five.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, what was it like?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Because you said when it first kind of got off
the ground, and Ozzy is retweeting you, but you the
guys met him right like you had an experience meeting
Ozzie because that's on your YouTube.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well yeah, yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's funny because you know, the band just went a
viral or whatever you call it on on Twitter. Some
this this guy called Spooky Lawyer. I guess I think
this is Moniker on on on X and uh and
he just posted I think he just read posted somebody's
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little video and for some reason, his thing went over
six million hits. So there's all these people going, oh,
people are just finding out about Max Sabbath. And then
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, they're not just finding
out about Max Sabbath. It's the ten year anniversary and
seven years ago they were did this thing where they
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played for Ozzy and three generations of Osbourne Ozzy, Jack
and Pearl, Uh, Ozzy's granddaughter and uh and uh, you
know Rolling Stone covered it and every you know thing
under rolling stone covered, rolling stones covering it, you know,
and and so it's like so it's like, well, don't
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tell me that it's just now hitting you know.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yes, So it's for some.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I guess, for people who only like pay attention to
Twitter or something.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
It's it really is when things do go viral, old
things that I noticed a lot of announm. It sound
like the old guy in the you know, Abraham Simpson
yelling at the cloud. But just the younger generation will
discover something from ten years ago, twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh my god, did you know about this?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I was alive then, but you never complaining, You never know.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I guess that's why you never know. It's like an
It's what's the cool thing about social media that it
really can see so many different eyes and it is
a time and a place sort of thing. Not much,
it's different, but it's almost similar just to being a
band back in the day, where it just was about
the timing and you could have been grinding for years
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and years and all of a sudden, it's that one show,
that one connection. Here's that one retweet that gets through
all these people on your on you know, finally taking
a mac digesting Max Sabbath to keep with the theme, So.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Have you has your love of fast food?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I'm assuming he's gone down since working with them, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh no, Yeah, I'm on board. I used to you know,
at the beginning, I thought that all of Ronald's thing
about time traveling to time traveling to now to save
us all from the state of the current state of
music and fast food and music and food, and to
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bring us back to a time where it was all
more organic and and all this stuff is you know,
talking screaming and yelling about KFC DC and been a
Bond JOV and how they were taking the food out
of his mouth, and it's like, you know, I was like, oh,
he's just crazy. I don't know if he's crazy or
he's joking or both or what. But as time has
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gone on, all the stuff that he not all the stuff,
but most of the stuff that he is that I
thought was just ridiculous nine years ago is all come true,
including like playing a show, in playing a show in
Cleveland and in Burger King Diamond coming out before the
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band and playing and doing this thing and then feuding
and him yelling at me about it and saying I
talking to security and they said they didn't know anything
about it. I know they let him in and I'm
like what and he goes, I think they're telling me
a whopper, And I'm like, did you just set this
whole up for the whole thing up for this punchline?
(21:35):
Like what is happening? But but but you know, he
actually was screaming and yelling about fully automated burger places
and robot police and all this stuff like nine years ago.
It's like, yeah, and it's all happening. So I don't know,
maybe we should listen to the clown. I don't know,
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you know, maybe he's more prophetic than we thought. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think I might agree with you there. I think
I do.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And you may notice to keep again with the food
theme and keep it with my theme, the six degrees
of Guns n' Roses Bacon.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So we'll figure.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Out what, you know, because I believe that Axel may
have been an inspiration and maybe what's getting to that
in a second, but it's I guess I can't help
this tweet speaking of I call it Twitter or whatever, uh,
because X just again it sounds like I see the
app on my phone. It just looks like a porn app.
I guess it's Twitter forever.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, yeah, I mean Twitter was it? So when you
say Twitter, everybody knows exactly what you mean. X sounds
cooler and all, but there's already a band called X,
and X means a lot of other things.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Correct, correct, but whatever. So on Twitter, I.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Think X got a bad break because it doesn't get
used a lot. So maybe he needed to try to.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Help it out, help out the letter, like on Sesame Street.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
At least you know like they've made it. They made
it start a xylophone, which makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That's a good that's you can't argue with that point.
But I can't help this ex Twitter tweet that lives
in my mind, so you have to quote a tweet.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
This was around when Guns and Roses were finally reuniting,
so I mean, to get technical, the Big three Axle, Slash,
and Duff and everybody confirmed that they were gonna play
Coachella except for Axel, and everybody knows nothing is confirmed
to like unless Axel does it, so he tweets nothing
is confirmed except for my love of taco bell yum yum,
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yum yum, and a bunch of like emojis and stuff
like that, and he confirmed Coachella the next day, and
of course guns Roses still together today. But any Taco
Bell I mean for Axl Rose, I'm sure this was.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Roses.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, that sounds like it sounds like one of these
drive through metal bands that Ronald's always going on about about,
Snaxel and Slush and Gilby Clark Bar anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Gill be Clark Bar.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Oh. I love that Coco Organic Funeral, which is a
parody of Electric Funeral. The last line is in it
is corporate lobbyist fry in Hell Forever force fed Taco Bell.
So maybe SNACKXL and Ronald got together on that.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't know, maybe, And I'll tell you this again
to TMI. Taco Bell was the first fast food for
me that I had to say no to. All of
a sudden, the cheesy Gordida crunch just became I might
as well just inject poison into my stomach. I went
from loving it to just being in pain for a while.
(24:57):
So one by one, I guess had a I'll get.
I got one of their fries, Okay, one of the
murmured fries. I'll get, Like, but the burgers and stuff.
So I look forward to you having one made though,
you know.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
A real hager wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a chilopa.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay, well, I gotta ask, though, does does Ronald Osbourne
make them kosher? I mean I'm not kosher, but I'm
curious does he make kosher hamburgers on stage?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
No? None of that. Okay, well let's go back.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's all a simulation I think, to uh reflect his
his bad past. But now he's you know, turned over
a new loaf. And if you actually the the record
Drive Through Metal, it comes in a wrapped in a
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wrapped in it comes wrapped in a pop up book.
And do you know about this?
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
This is the only uh the only pop rock I
should grab one pop up book album. There. There have been,
you know, a couple of tries that they they have
one pop up but this actually has multiple complicated extreme
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pop up book. And it starts out, well, they're all
in the kitchen and they're you know, killing the animals,
and they're all you know, doing the nasty deeds. And
then they and then the next thing they discover, you know,
the Sabbath, and they are all transformed by you know,
the rock and roll into like a profits and then
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and then the next thing, they're like frolicking in a
in like a utopia of vegetables.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You know that's beautiful. Is that is the book pop
up book? Kid friendly or no? Because he said they killing.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Might.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, absolutely, that's the thing with it. You know, it's
like it's like, oh, okay, we're like in the music
business now, guys, so we got to make you know,
streaming things for the streaming services and have MP threes
and stuff. And it's like, you can't talk like that
because they give this anger and confusion and it's like,
you know, we're in the nineteen seventies still, so so
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all of a sudden, it's like I have to listen
to what he says. So so the first thing was
a coloring book that came with a flexi disc and
it was a flexi disc single and a coloring book.
And then it was like, okay, so time to really
join the ranks of like the real thing here. It's like, no,
we're gonna have a full LP vinyl in a pop
(27:45):
up book. So it's always got to be for kids,
and it's always got to be analog and I have to,
you know, figure out how I'm going to market the
eight track tape or whatever's coming next.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And you can find everything unofficial macsabbath dot com. And
you guys have socials too cool. And I got to
ask you before I get out of here, just to
keep the focus on you and go back to my theme.
Have you ever seen along your oddities along your career
before Max Sabbath, have you seen guns and roses live
along your path? Because you said you were in a band,
You're a rock and roll guy, so he's curious if
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you Yeah, so when did you gut see GNR.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I've seen gun the roads several times. I saw them
open for the stones at the coliseum. Uh in the
eighties eighty nine? Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, steel wheels and
all that and and uh, I mean you know, I
was up at the very top and it was raining.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
So oh well when I say I saw it, I
was I was like, you know, it might be better
to go home and watch this, watch a video or something,
not pneumonia.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But no, yeah, I've seen I've seen several manifestation of
guns and roses along the years. Last time I saw
them was at Dodger stadium. I'm really bad with years,
but I can tell you this. The Cult opened and
the Cult went on at six thirty and ended at
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ended at six fifty nine, and they all looked sunburnt
because I don't think they were used to like being.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Out in because they're all English boys.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Yeah, English goth kids, so.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
They're all sunburn. And they edit six fifty nine, and
then the stage was dark for i'd say two and
a half hours maybe, and they came out at nine.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
The good old days of Guns and Roses Man.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Naxley, you gotta like you know, well, they're a lot
faster now, just like fast food. They they're they're there
on time, and oh really it's.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
All it's all been in streamlines.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh yeah, all of been streamlines, just like the whole
process fast food business. They're in, they're out, you know,
it's it's fun. Yeah, but it's not as unpredictable like
so certain fast food is and how Guns of ROAs
used to be. So sometimes the unpredictable is good. Other
times you end up in the bathroom all night.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I don't know if you well, you know that two
and a half hours you sell a lot of dozer Dogs.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know exactly, Mike, This really was a pleasure. It
was awesome meeting you, and I hope we get to
do this again.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Absolutely hanging in rather than just going a bunch of
songs together. We think are fine, We're going over it.
You know where to find too, Calmly, just working on
everything to try. That's the go.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Very appetite for discovery now, so one of my favorite
segments of Appetite for Distortion Appetite for discovery, where we
kind of open up our purview for the guns of
Roses fan that may not know all the great music
that's out there, but for me, as long as it's
guitar driven, it's great. And we have that with Diamond
(31:06):
Row of tech Trark. How are you welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Thank you for having me. I'm doing pretty good. What
about yourself?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I had to get it out right away with the
name of the band tech Trark, because you said this
is your third interview that you've done, and I'm really Look,
I've been a radio for twenty years, but I'm terrible
with names. I have to practice it, like I have
something wrong with I have to practice saying things, and
I take pride in it and if I mess up,
(31:35):
I just own it now. So I went to Google
and I was just practicing the Google pronunciation of tech tark.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Like that's amazing because I will say, like, now, like
now that we are on our third you know, third
record is coming, I feel like now a lot of
people and a lot of you know, publications impressed that
I talked to. Everyone says the name pretty much correctly.
(32:03):
But when we started it, like when we were kids
and we started touring, we got like we would pull
up to venues and they would have on the like
you know, they'll put like a marquee or like they'll
put and they would put like tech art and like
tetch trie arch and they would I'm like, did y'all
not look at the way it's even spelled, or like
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people will call us tech chart and it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
So we've heard everything, so now it's like now that.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
We start to hear more people say it right, I'm like, oh,
it's just so great.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's a sign that you made it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I was just hoping that I say pterodactyl by accidents.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But to go back, it's definitely getting better. It's definitely
getting better.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Well, they go back to the beginnings at the beginning
of tech Arch before we talk to about you know,
your your deal with Gibson uh to talk about what's
coming for the band and for you. You were this
is a band out of Atlanta, Georgia, Right, So where
did you start? Like, how did a bunch of kids
come up with that that name? And then how did
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take us to the origin story of tetrarc How did
that happen?
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Yeah, So basically I went to a small like private
school starting in seventh grade. It was like a Christian
private school, so we had I had to wear a
skirt and a polo shirt like so, but it wasn't
a huge school.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So it was like basically it was kindergarten through twelve.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
And he like elementary had you know, a building, middle
school had like a building, and then high school had
a building.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But we all basically knew each other. There was only like.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Between fifty and seventy something kids in a grade. So
basically when I was in seventh grade, I met this
girl that was in my brother's grade who was like
a little bit older than me, and she, you know
how like when you become friends with someone who's a
little older than you.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You kind of look up to them. You're like, oh,
they're so cool, especially when you're a kid.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
And she was really into like she was always talking
about like Pearl Jam and like she listened to all
kinds of rock like Thrice and you know whatever, but
she was always talking about Nirvana and Kirk Cobain, like
she was obsessed with Kurt Cobain. And I finally one
day was like, you know what I'm gonna go listen
to because that's time. I was listening to just whatever's
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on the radio, hip hop in scene, didn't matter, whatever,
and I was like, I'm gonna go listen to this
Nirvana band whatever. So I had my mom take me
to the store and I got Nirvana's greatest hits, and
I also was like, I'm just gonna get one more CD.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I've heard a system of a down, Here's Toxicity. I'm
just gonna get it. I don't know what it sounds like,
but i'm gonna grab it. So those are the two
albums that.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
I bought, and from that point on, I was kind
of like, Okay, this is something that like I just
want to get into, like cool heavy music, Like I
don't know why again I always say that, but it's
just I was like, I want to get into this.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It seems.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It wasn't like some sort of lightning bolt that came
down and be like whoa this world of grunge and
rock and.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Roll that I or it was just like this seems cool.
I wanted to be a part of this. It was
that nice a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It was probably like a little bit of both.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Like I'm a pretty like unfazed person, but I think
I was just I thought it was cool, and I
thought it was cooler than I expected to. I think,
you know, like I I liked it more than I
expected to like it. So I was like, I'm gonna
dig deeper.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
In this, you know, and I wanted you know, you're
still young, so you don't have like.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
This like strong identity identity yet as a kid, you're
still like searching for like who you are. And I
think it gave me this instant feeling of like this
could be, you know, like a part of my identity,
like becoming like a kid that's like into this. I
don't know, I didn't think that far. I don't think,
(35:55):
but now sitting here right now, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know, maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
But anyway, so to make a long story short, I like,
whenever I get into something, I'm one of those people
who I want to partake in it, you know. I
don't want to just be like, oh, I'm a fan
of this band. Like I'm like, all right, cool, I
want to play an instrument. So I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Know, mom, I want to play guitar. She took me
and got me lessons, like probably the next weekend.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
And there was only one kid in my grade who
played guitar too and liked rock.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And I was Josh, and who's in my band now?
And we just you know, he.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Was used to jam with this other kid we were
friends with you. I was closer to the other guy
named Tyler, so I asked him.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I was like, hey, can I like jam with you guys,
you know, join your band?
Speaker 7 (36:40):
And he's like, let me ask Josh, you know, And
Josh said no because he didn't he didn't want.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
A girl in the band.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
So I like I remember being like crushed, and I
like went home and told my dad and I was like,
he said I couldn't be in the band because I'm
a girl and all this stuff. So you know, anyway,
He eventually ended up letting me come over and jam,
and the rest was history.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Like we jammed once in like our.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Drummer's parents' basement where we used to practice, and Tetrark
was born.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
You know, we didn't come up with that name right away.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
We came up with it in history class, maybe like
two years later, but that's where Tetrark started.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Essentially.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
That's very cool.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I know you're not supposed to ask a lady this,
but how old were you when you got the greatest
hits of Nirvana and Toxicity?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was eleven eleven?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, yeah, because I.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
No, no, no, no, when I got the grade, uh.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
A little older than that. I was probably.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Fifteen somewhere between my early high school years in late
middle school years.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Okay, yeah, because I was. I was in middle school
when Nirvana was happening, and then that was you know,
ten to eleven when that was new.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, you know MTV playing when they've actually played videos
and being like what is this? You know, I just
still sound Garden, just like their black Hole Sun video.
I just remember watching it an MTV and just being like, whoa,
what is this? And much like you you're trying to
find an identity, and like rock somehow became a part
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of my identity all the way to this day.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
So I do get that.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
It wasn't like I sat down and be like like
you I'm like, oh, I'm gonna make this, but it
was cool, like rock is cool. And I'm still like
rock is cool.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
So yeah, And I was like a little behind the
wave because like those albums and stuff have been out
for a little while, but like I was just discovering
them like they had come out, you know, the day before,
like you know what I mean, Like they it just
like they rocked my world. And especially when I started,
when I really thrust myself into it, all it was
(39:01):
game over.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, it's it's I'd love that and it shows the
power of good music because it is new at some point,
because I have a one and a half year old
and it's going to be new to him too. Yeah,
So I love hearing that. And that's on this podcast,
I interview people young and old, and we all kind
of meet in the middle of just great music. It
doesn't matter when you get into it. If you're just
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getting into it is all that matters. And especially it
would have been like one thing just to be a fan,
but for you to go head first and let you
play the guitar. Were you playing in any instrument at
the time?
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Were you musical? Is your family musical?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So I play?
Speaker 7 (39:42):
I was actually in like the school band. I played
the most opposite instrument. I played the flute.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And I don't you know, I look back and I'm like,
I don't know why I picked the flute, but I
picked the flute.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
And my parents, like my mom can sing really well,
like she she and like both of my parents are
very into music. My dad's in the music business, but
he can't play an instrument to save his life. So like,
music was definitely a part of my family, but no
one else like played a physical instrument, you know, in
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my household.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But me, how long did it take for you to
kind of almost become a master at it? And again,
we're getting to a point where you have partnered with
Jackson Guitars. It's not like you're just a guitarist who
just plays. You were one of the premiere. Like people
were looking at you as the I don't want to
say up and coming. Even though you're kind of still
(40:39):
establishing yourself, You've been doing it for a bit. For
lack of a better phrase, up and coming guitarists.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
How did you get to that?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I mean, it's one thing again if you were started
at three years old, but just to pick it up
and just when did you know? Like was it easy
for you or was it did it take a lot
to learn?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I hate saying it was easy for me because.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Like I or natural? Was it natural for you?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Shit, you know it was always I felt natural for me.
And I don't know if that's because I.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Played the flute so like my you know, and I
was an athlete, so like like my finger dexterity and stuff.
I'm not sure, but I never had like that awkward
guitar phase where you know, like people will be like,
teach me a chord and like I'll put it on
their laugh and show them and their fingers are just
like like I never I never had that phase, you
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know what I mean, Like when my guitar teacher something
would show me something.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I remember it being like you said, pretty natural feeling.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
I never once I got like because the day of
my first lesson, my mom bought me like this really
cheap knockoff telecaster. It was like one hundred dollars just
you know, they to see if I'd stick with it.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And I remember I.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Played that guitar for probably like ten hours a day,
mental like on the on the like shore, and like
I would take it to the bathroom, I would take
it to the dinner table, I would take it if
we went to someone's house, I would take it, like
and it was just an electric that I would just
take everywhere with me and I would play it. I
played it into the ground, you know, just learning my
(42:14):
favorite songs. So I think it was just it always
felt really natural to me, and it started off as
I made it. I made it a fun thing, you
know what I mean, Like I learned songs I loved.
I didn't start guitar by just being like, okay, what
modes and skills.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Can I learn? Like I would have been like this sucks,
you know.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
So yeah, I think I always have just played guitar
in a way that I enjoy. So I saw myself
getting better just by doing that, and I think that's
what kept me and still keeps me so motivated.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
You know, who did you look toward for guitarists to
be influenced by or to kind of you know, look up.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
To Yeah, I talk about it a lot, Like you
know how some people get into heavy music and they'll
find like a subgenre or a sector of metal or
hard rock and they'll just live in that. I was
all over the place, like I was a complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I was just like, give me all of the hard
rock and metal you can throw at me.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
So first and foremost it was definitely Metallica, like I
always say, like I feel like I learned to play
guitar to the Master of Puppets record, like I had
the tab book and as bad or as good as
it probably as bad as it probably sounded like, I
just took it as slow as possible and I was
just learning like my favorite riffs, so obviously I always.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Have to credit them.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
But at the same time I was getting into slip
knots and corns and linkor Parking Disturbed, And then at
the same time it was Trivium and guns n' roses
a lot of slash, which is I think why I
play single cuts and like Less Paul shapes now is
because he was such a like I won my first
(44:08):
guitar was a Gibson Less Paul Standard when I was thirteen,
My parents got it for me for Christmas because.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I was like a big slash fan, but.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Him, Alexi Lejo and Opeth, Like I was just playing
any metal in any band.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Or any song I was playing.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
But like I would say my biggest if I had
to narrow them down, it would just be like Kirk Hammett.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
It would be like.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Mark Mortan from Lamb of God, slash Head and Monkey
from Corn.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Dying Back.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
Just yeah, Matt Heathy from Trivium just kind of like
all over all over the place.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I love it. I mean, I enjoy all those bands.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I never understood why those people who were just kind
of married to one genre. You're kind of really limiting yourself.
You're not kind of you aren't limiting yourself. So I
think for so many reasons, you're the perfect person to
people you might It's almost funny that you were what
seemed may not be that long ago. You're teaching yourself
(45:10):
how to play guitar. I'm sure a lot of people
come to you now and say, can you teach me
how to do this?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Does that happen all the time?
Speaker 7 (45:18):
And I will say one thing that I might have
been gifted with, like being able.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
To play guitar.
Speaker 7 (45:24):
But I am a horrible teacher, Like I am, like,
I'm so bad at teaching things. When someone asked me
to teach them something, I'm like, trust me, you don't
want that. It's really hard for me to explain things.
But I do get that a lot. And people will
be like, can you And it is so funny because
the question is so broad. They'll be like, can you
teach me how to play guitar?
Speaker 3 (45:45):
And I'm just like, that's a very broad question, so broad.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
I'd rather you just be like, can you teach me
how to play smells like teen Spirit?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I can do that, you.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Know, exactly. Narrowed down a little bit for me.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, please.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
So I mean with that, uh, I'm not a musician,
I'm not a guitarist. I'm not going to ask you
to teach me guitar. But I'm gonna ask you to
kind of explain this, uh, this deal with the Jackson
guitars to me, because I'm not going to pretend I'm cool,
uh and and know what I'm talking about. But so
Jackson Guitars, and I love how the one sheet calls
(46:20):
and it's true that you are a modern metal powerhouse
Diamond Row you are. Uh So it's an all new
Diamond Row Pro series signature guitar. Uh and you are
the first female Jackson Signature guitarist artist and the first
African American female signature artist in heavy music. You alluded
(46:41):
to before that you were not in this, you weren't
allowed in the band because you were a girl initially,
and look at now you're precoming your your breaking class ceilings.
When when I say that, how does that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I mean really good. I probably sound like a broken
record with people ask me this, but it's.
Speaker 7 (47:01):
So true, Like I have gotten to this point by
just being authentically myself, like getting into heavy music and
guitar and letting that passion drive me to this point.
It wasn't something which I know a lot of people
like to say when they get mad online and they're
like who is this person? They think it's like this
(47:22):
fabricated thing that like I'm some plant or something, and
I'm like, if only you knew. But it's just really
cool that like I started this like as an eleven
year old, twelve year old kid who just heavy music
just resonated with me and gave me a home and
a place to feel like just like completely like myself
(47:46):
and to now just be at this point where it's
like I can maybe influence other people to feel the same,
or other kids to feel the same, and be a.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Part of a community that gave me so much too.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
It feels amazing and as it should, and I hope
we get to a point. I mean, there's because there
has to be a first. But now in twenty twenty four,
where anyone talks about women in metal or African American
and metal, I mean, it's just it's for everybody. I
don't really think it's the way it used to be.
I don't think so. I think it's really for everyone.
(48:20):
The amount of female guitarists out there are incredible, Yeah,
I mean the fact that you see Iced Tea out
there still kicking ass with body count, I mean that's incredible. So,
I mean it's it's nice to be the first, but
I think at some point it's gonna be even nicer
where you're just one of the gang. You're just wugging
other you're just a guitarist and having fun. Is am
(48:41):
I wrong in thinking that? Like, because not interviews probably
ask you what is it like being a girl in
a band, it's I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
I know a lot of people that that really bothers,
you know, like they're like, I hate that question. Like
most women I know in having me music or you know,
in bands or artists, they.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Hate that question.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
I don't hate that question, and I think because I
don't put such a negative connotation on it, I feel
like it's been a blessing in disguise for me and
our band, to in my band, To be honest, like,
it's just been like whereas maybe people wouldn't have paid
attention before, I think it made people pay attention. And
(49:26):
it was every band I feel like, has something different
about them. Every successful band there's something about them that
draws attention to that band, and like I've been a
big part of that for tech Tark, just like making
people want to, you know, check them out, whereas maybe
they wouldn't before.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
They're like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
So when someone asked me that question, I don't I
don't really look at it as a as a negative thing,
negative thing, and I think it's just because of my experience.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
But I do think it's cool to see so.
Speaker 7 (49:57):
Many you know, girls and women now publicly plan I'm
sure they've always played guitar to some extent or but
being able to see so many out there, and I
just remember going to shows in high school and stuff,
and like my friends would be like, you're like the
only black person here, and I don't even notice, Like
I'm just like, oh really, I just was so like
enthralled by why I was there, which was the bands
(50:21):
and the music and the whole experience and the crowd
and the crowd surfing and that like it was also new.
I didn't even pay attention to anything.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Else, you know. So I think I'm a little weird
and a little different in that regard, but.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
It's the weird I think we all should strive to be.
And I'm not just blowing smoke because you're just it's
showing you the music and the passion just comes from within.
It's not what the color of your skin is. It's
not what's under your you know, under your dress or
on your pants or whatever. It's just the music and
(50:56):
the fact that you just have that mentality and you
don't you haven't been two sidetracked by it. I know
you said you were a little bummed when you were
you told your dad I'm a girl, they won't let
me in the band.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
But at this point you've.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Proven yourself and you're gonna continue to prove yourself. I
have a lot of gearheads that listen to this show,
so I guess again, I don't play, so if you could.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Just explain what this means.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
So the Diamond Pro Series, which is gonna be a
d R twelve MG evt N six features and EverTune bridge,
black chrome covered active EMG eighty one slash not that
slash eighty one slash eighty five, Uh, terrible joke, humbucking pickups,
(51:38):
and a dark rose finish with a new custom three
plus three color matched Jackson headstock. I only understood Jackson
and Diamond Rose within that.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
So please the name in.
Speaker 7 (51:52):
The name you said, Uh, the R twelve, which Diamond
Road twelve was my favorite number, so they asked me
to put a number there and I was like, it
has to be twelve. I was my softball number I
played for a long time. So the EVTN or whatever
that's ever Tune, that's the type of bridge that's on
my guitar six a six string, and then the three
(52:17):
plus three headstock means that there's three tuning pegs on
each side of the headstock, so you know how like
some it's like in a line or yeah mineor like three.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
And three so you taught me something.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
And the EMG eighty one eighty five that's my pickup set.
So those are the pickups I have my guitar.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
How many guitars do you have?
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Probably not as.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
Many as like a lot of guitar players out there,
probably have, going towards.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Forty maybe that's a good number, yeah something, probably something
like that.
Speaker 7 (52:53):
They're in multiple places though, like I have a bunch
at our practice space, you know, like my touring rig
those guitars, and then I have some here and my house,
and then I have some that obviously I don't use,
but that are my parents' house in Georgia. You know
that I had like my Kirk Hammet signatures and my
(53:14):
dying back all those guitars that were just like from
when I was a kid are all all there. So yeah,
they're they're kind of spread out, so I'd have to
do it an inventory count, honestly for sure.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Sweet.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
So when are we going to see to to kind
of wrap things up here? When are we going to
see you whether, I mean, do you don't do anything
outside of Tetrark, right?
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Is it just Tetrark?
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah? So when are we going to see you out
and about with the band again?
Speaker 7 (53:44):
Beginning first quarter of twenty twenty five will be starting
like our touring cycle and we'll probably be on the
road for I would say the next year and a
half at least, so a lot of touring starting right.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Into next year. So we're hoping to you go pretty
much everywhere.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Cool yo, and you just released a new song which
is live not fantasized. I like The Way That Flows,
which has a million views in less than three weeks.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
M h.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
I mean I think you're pretty popular.
Speaker 7 (54:18):
Yeah, crazy, you know, I don't know, like now, I
just like I see things and I'm just like, how.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Is this happening?
Speaker 7 (54:26):
But you know, at the same time, I'm not going
to jinx anything. I'm just like, I'm really honored and
I'm so excited about everything that's happening and how excited other.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
People are and how many people are paying attention.
Speaker 7 (54:39):
And it just goes back to what we talked about
in the beginning, just like being these kids that have
this dream of all this stuff that's happening now, you know,
and just hoping that you even got like an ounce
of that, you know what I mean as a kid,
and now to be here, it's awesome, So like I'm
really excited about what's to come.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
It just seems to keep growing and keep getting and bigger.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
So sweet, and I can't wait to see what's next.
Oh and just before we wrap up, I got to
ask and Slashes one of your your favorites, have a
favorite riff of his solo of his or maybe a
Guns of Roses song in general, just so to appease
my fan base.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, that's a loaded question.
Speaker 7 (55:19):
But I and you've probably heard this multiple times, but
one thing that sticks out in my head that I
used to watch all the time on my Guns and
Roses DVD was Slash Slash his solo he did the
Godfather theme sure, And then also I love his parts
and estranged, Like I just think that it's so sick
(55:43):
and like vibe and like kind of like uneasy feeling
or whatever. And I remember learning that as a kid,
just that I don't know those leads and that solo
and everything just really resonated with me and still does
to this day, So I.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
Think you picked up a few GNR fans because it's
stranged more often than not. Is like when I talk
to my listeners, is their favorite song? Really it's kind
of crazy. It's not all the it's not the radio hits,
you know, it's it's strange. That's more than it so funny.
It's just it really shows just it's just like an
amazing because I mean I personally love November Raey because
(56:17):
I'm a little bit of boring, you know, I don't
like anything on my Hamburger whatever. But I mean it's strange.
It's just such this with especially with the video and
just again our music, you know, musically it's just it
is and an Axle's voice.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
So yeah, I mean you can't go wrong there, man. Absolutely,
it's so sick.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
It's such a dynamic song too, and like, I don't know,
I just whenever now I think of Slash, like if
someone is talking to me about GNR and Slash, because
I also went through a huge like Velve Revolver, like
Phase two the Slash, but gn R I always think
like estranged and and.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Like, yeah, I don't know, this is a great, great one.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Yeah, Velvet two, I just had a again.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I had Dave Kushner on the on the podcast, who
sometimes have to I have to say the other guitarist
who's not Slash and Velvet and Revolver guy. I know,
the nicest guy. But I like my wife who doesn't know.
I'm like, yeah, he's the other guy.
Speaker 7 (57:14):
I'm sorry he played with Slash and they're like, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
But she's also when I took her to see Guns
and Roses for the first time, she's like, who's that.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
I'm like, that's dough. I'm sorry. No, I'm like, I'm sorry, honey,
he's really hot. All right, Well his wife is hot too.
I can't say yeah right.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
She's like, wait a minute, hold on, now.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I started, you started it awesome. Oh and you said
this off the air. I just want to let it go.
By the way side. You were on the same bill
as Slash was Yeah.
Speaker 7 (57:44):
We played Exit one eleven and yeah Tennessee, like right
outside Nashville.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Oh yeah, back and they were on it and uh.
Speaker 7 (57:55):
The same day we played as well, so we got
to got to watch them that night after our SI.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
So I really think it's a matter of time. I'm
gonna put this into existence. Until Slash reaches out to
you and you guys become friends. Because I've spoken to
a few of the artists on his blues festival and
they're kind of like the same where they like me
Slashes because he texts them and he knows he has
(58:21):
his eye for finding talent, and it's gonna happen, Diamond,
and there's gonna be a Slash diamond, whether it's on
the next Blues record or it's the next Slash record.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
I'm gonna will it.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Into existence because you're passionate about music, you could tell,
and he is. And we got to get all the
guitar heroes together.
Speaker 4 (58:39):
That's I know, you know.
Speaker 7 (58:40):
And it's funny you say that because my parents have
always said that, and I think because like they watched
me grow up and they were there for the Slash phase, you.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Know, but they like are always like.
Speaker 7 (58:53):
You're going to like you and Slash are going to connect,
Like they're so like sure of this thing, and I'm like,
you know, hey, you never know, it would be it
would be awesome. That would be a great one, another
very full circle moment. So I hope, So, I hope
you're right.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Well, next time you're on we'll talk about that experience.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Right, let's do it. I like that idea.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Thank you, Diamond for your time. It was great to
meet you, and I hope we get to do this again.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
So that does it with this episode of Appetite for Distortion?
Speaker 4 (59:23):
When will you see the next one?
Speaker 3 (59:25):
In the words of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
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