March 11, 2025 • 45 mins
"It's 5 O' Clock Somewhere," the debut album from Slash's Snakepit, recently turned 30 years old. Here to celebrate, reminisce, and talk all about his project "Sextus - Hello the Mushroom," is former Snakepit vocalist Eric Dover.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion,
(00:33):
Episode number four hundred and ninety seven. My name is Brando.
Welcome back to the podcast, mister Eric Dover. How are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Knowing great Brando, Good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, likewise, I was telling you just off the air
because you were on I think in two thousand and two.
And you know my listeners, you know, I obviously it's
all about I try to make this podcast not about me,
but sometimes I can't help it. So like when I
lose a tooth from a car accident and I'm hiding
behind the microphone, I have to bring it up. So
(01:06):
recently I had edited here's a highlight from our interview
back then, and I'm just seeing my face hiding behind
the microphone to hide my my lack of a tooth.
Now I have the implant in. Looks nice, right, looks real? Yeah,
And I think he did. And then I had my
old backup pair of glasses on because those my original
(01:29):
ones were broken in the car accident, and now I
have these nice. There's no reflection in these. So now
I'm just glad I can have an interview with you
where I feel like I don't look like I was
in a car accident. So it was thanks for thanks
for coming back.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
On, well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I look at myself and feel like I've been in
a car accident even though I haven't.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I guess. So that's I'm starting to feel that
ever since I turned forty. I don't know how that
makes you feel, but anyway, I digress. You know, maybe
that's a nice setup to everything, the word car accident
because here we're talking about if you're watching on zoom. No,
Eric hasn't changed his name to Sextust. That's that's the
(02:12):
name of his his band that's been around for god no,
how long has sexists been around for thirty plus?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Over twenty five years?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
To see if I initially came up with the project, Yeah, wow,
started in like nineteen ninety nine, so.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Wow, I mean that's while I mean, so congratulations just
on that. But now the new Sextus EP, Hello to
the Mushroom, is now available on sextust dot com. And
I wanted to bring up car Crash because if you
don't mind, I love your sense of humor, which is
portrayed in the video which we're going to get into it.
(02:50):
For your your single. Oh, I just had it up here.
The name what's the name of your single? I just
had it up here, Lithario. How did I forget that?
Because I had this whole set up to where I'm
gonna start to call you Eric Lithario dover because because
I haven't heard that word in a minute. So Lothario.
(03:11):
So if you go to your Facebook page just you know,
facebook dot com slash sexist music, if you don't mind,
because you shared it, it's a bad review of your album.
And I think of anything, I think it works in
your favor. So if you don't mind me you setting
this up, blessed you to my I don't know if
(03:32):
you heard my wife's niece, bless you. So I have
baby Brownstone, by the way, my almost two year old,
who may join us at any point, but he was
dancing at Lathario earlier. So this is a review of
Hello the Mushroom by sexists. If you ever wondered what
it would sound like if Kendrick Lamar repeatedly kicked a
gumball machine that the spens has expired, narcan Hello the
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mushroom as you covered. This album stumbles through genres like
a drunk uncle at a wedding over new wave glam
rock and whatever was left of sexist dignity on the
way down. The production is so baffingly chaotic that even
the AI generated Elevator music would beg for a remaster.
(04:14):
It's as if somebody locked David Bowie, a kazoo orchestra,
and a malfunctioning speaking spell in a garage and told
them to work it out. Spoiler alert, they didn't. I disagree.
We'll get to that. But still a lot of these
things I think are just I don't know. I see
you're smirking. It's fun. It's former paragraph, so it's almost over. Thankfully.
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Sextist somehow makes these shags sound like the Juilliard virtuosos,
delivering performances of so off kilter they could be used
to calibrate a seismograph. The lyrics are either profound or
the fever dream of a man who fell asleep reading
conspiracy forums while huffing glue. It's impossible to tell. If
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music could have a physical form, this album would be
a pile of meltic cassette tapes. Found in the backseat
of a car that's been sitting in Death Valley since
nineteen ninety four. And yet, despite all of this, or
maybe because of it, Hello the Mushroom has an inescapable
charm like a three legged dog winning a foot race. Baffling, misguided,
and somehow impossible to look away from. Why not go
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to sexist dot com and decide for yourself. Sorry, I
needed to. I read that, I laughed. I love that
you shared it. Please tell us about this new record.
Are they right in any any point in that? Are
you like a three legged dog or you like Meltic cassettes?
What is it like?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh, I'm definitely more like a three legged dog. No.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, you know, with all reviews there's goodwins and bad ones.
That one does have a bit of humor to it.
But yeah, as far as Hello the Mushroom, the EP it,
you know, it took about a year to It's only
six songs.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's volume one.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
There's going to be a volume two, six songs of
sonic excellence, of just songs that I've written through the
years that I thought were good enough to finish and complete.
And so they kind of run the gamut from deranged
glam pop rock stylings to a kind of darker numbers,
(06:29):
but definitely more in the pop rock power pop realm.
It's not like very it's not hard rock except in places,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So sure.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
All the songs that have a little bit of something
different to them, I think, which is kind of one
of the reasons I wanted to put that collection out
at the time, you know, in that order. So I'm
excited and very happy to have it out. I've had
some good reviews.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Too, those are also posted. But again, I just think
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The bad ones, isn't it. They're always more fun.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
To read because they try too hard to be bad,
you know, trying to be clever with their analogies, and
there were cultural references, but all that did was make
me smile and make me like, yeah, that sounds kind
of awesome. I mean, like, what does a narcan sound like?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's just like, I don't know, I think that's fine,
especially had I read that after I watched the video
for Lothario, which is kind of like a fever dream,
and there are some images of you.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm sorry, I can't get out of my head now.
I mean, you are, you make for an attractive lady.
But now, I don't know. I can't get that out.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Of my friends.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Some of my friends said, here's that chick, and I'm like, okay,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Me, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I mean that that was a lot of fun
to do because, you know, for those I'm not going
to spoil it who hasn't seen it, but I'm playing
a myriad of different characters, and.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know, go check it out. It's also it's also
a western, so.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm a big fan of any of More Coney and
all those Clint Eastwood movies and things from the day,
I mean, all all the cowboy movies I grew up watching. Anyway,
but I thought it would be a little more fun
to do something like that to get the point across
of the song rather than just another check me out,
(08:28):
I'm in a rock band video, here's my abs and.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Shit, you know so yeah, I like that decision. I mean, well,
if you have abs, I don't know, maybe you could
have showed them at some point, but this is me.
I have a I guess have like a French five belly.
I don't. I don't know if I have one ab.
I have one ab But I like the fact that
you didn't do a lyric video. I mean, maybe these
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things will come, but you took it back to the
old school fun music video. It just reminded me like
of an old food Fighters, you know, learn to Fly,
where they're all in different characters. So is that something
that you've you've always enjoyed doing, whether it's in a
music video or do you have any sort of performance chops.
Were you ever in guys and dolls in a you know,
(09:14):
community theater and anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes, I was. Actually I was a little bit of
a theater kid.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I was obviously more consumed with music, but high school,
in college I did.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A few things. Dracula Nice I was in that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I was in Man of La Manta, and once I
got in college, I got.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Cast in god Spell. I don't know if you ever saw.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That, I know of it. I haven't ever had work, so.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Acting and hamming it up has always been pretty natural
for me. Because I'm a middle child as well, so
I had to compete with the other two for attention,
and I was a real pain in the ass, kind
of a horrible kid.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know. It's one of my parents didn't drown me,
but thankfully they didn't. So.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But but just doing things like that, making up skits.
It's the stuff that you do in childhood, but it
seems to have carried over to my adult life because
I can sit around and just laugh about anything for hours,
or make up parodies, you know, different song lyrics to
classic rock.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Songs, or just anything to promote.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Mirth and little a little bit of happiness and what
could be an otherwise unspectacular, boring life, you know, just
try to make things interesting, shake it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I thought you were going to say, I don't
know about an interesting and boring life. I just thought
you were going to say, you know, the way the
state of the world is in a relief. But it's
so it's interesting how you you phrased it like that,
because I would and listeners and fans of yours would
look at you and say, not a not a boring life?
Is that just the feeling you have that you feel
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is there more that you could be doing here? Wish
you could have done?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm more I kind of meant it more like just
your regular day to.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Day grind, you know what I mean, And how that
can get repetitive and boring. I wouldn't say that I've
had a boring life by any stretch of the match.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Okay, I was like, damn.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But but you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Know, you get in these ruts, whether it's creatively or
we're in your job or whatever. So I think I
try to rail against that, you know. I mean, you
ask anybody that knows me. I'm going to try to
crack a joke at some point if the opportunity presents itself,
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but say here, just to shake things up.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, sure, even if it bombs. So I'm like,
even if you're if you're not laughing with me, if
you're laughing at me, as long as you're laughing whatever,
that's always a goal of mine. So that's definitely the
case in the video. And again I don't want to
spoil it for anybody, just to see Eric and all
these different characters. As far as the song itself, which
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you can stream right now. For Lothario, what where that
inspiration come from? You said, the video kind of helped
tell the story? Where's the story? Because again, Lothario is
a I wish I was known as a Lothario, just
a ladies man, right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, So it's you know, but an fictional Italian character.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, it's a casanova.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Now we do know people that are actual casanova's in
real life. They have a touch with with people. But
in this instance, I wrote it out of It's really
more of a song about the inability to foster intimacy
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kind of due to you know, a lothario in my
mind will fall in love every day and then by
Monday it's over. So I'm not I'm not digging at
someone that could be considered astorio. It's just sort of
an observation. And then I sort of coupled that with
(13:18):
with technology, you know, because everybody is glued to their
phone now and nobody really talks or meets in person.
You have a lot of people that have met and
got married and had kids from dating apps.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Me, that's all cool the time. The times have changed,
you know, for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I tried. I refused it for a while, Eric, I
really did. I didn't want to do a dating app. Uh.
And then it's just very hard to meet people. And
then there's my my wife and the couch over there
from bumble.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, it's it's not Uh, it's not unheard of.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I have a lot of friends that are like that also, uh,
poking a little bit fun at myself in the song,
because I I've sort of lived those words a little
bit too, you know, falling in love every week or
I mean, this is kind of going back to my
younger days. But I realized what a fool I'd been
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and how I never really made any true relationships out
of it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Despite my my wanting to.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So it's a little bit of a dig at myself
as well, and it really just meant to have fun with.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is that something is there? I hate that to ask this,
but as this is Eric Dover still looking for love,
is that something that that's other than making.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I'm I'm quite happy now.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But it really came down to when I realized your
first love as a musician, in a lot of ways,
is always going to be music. There's no way to
really separate yourself from it. I became a lot happier
after that.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It was just sort of took the clouds away a bit.
I think so.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But no, I'm I'm quite happy now, and at this
stage of my life, I'm more creative than ever and
you know, I've got new music out and I'm really
excited to keep making more for anyone that wants.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
To hear it awesome to hear. Do you plan to
tour this this EP or do dates or anything live.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I haven't ruled it out, but it's not very likely
because I'm an independent label and I have been since
the inception of Sextist. And I don't know if you've
talked to any of your other friends that are in
touring bands, but it's gotten to the point where it's
prohibitively expensive. Yeah, and I'm I'm a little too well,
(15:53):
a little too independent, and I've got to tour the
world with some of the greats like Slash or Alice
Cooper or Jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So and I've hopped.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
In a few bands since then, and you know, toured
around Europe, in the UK and even went to India.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Excuse me, but.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
In order to do it the way that you really
want to do it, you know, you have to admit
that it's going to cost a lot of money to finance.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I haven't reached that point yet.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I'm not going to rule it out, but I'm
not gonna say get ready to kids, I'm coming to
your town yet.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Sure. Now, you hear so many bands that you just
think like, okay, how could they ever have a problem
and they have to cancel dates or touring? Is that
you hear that that's the unfortunate. I don't know if
it's a byproduct of COVID and people not wanting to
still go out as much or spend the money it
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ticketmaster prices and it hurts the independence, you know, more
than anything. So it's it's difficult to hear. But I
guess talking to a creative you could always get creative
with it. We're talking about technology. You're on social media.
Any chance of maybe like just doing you know, maybe
(17:12):
like a live performance or a pre recorded performance, you know,
you w and a guitar of a song, or your
your YouTube page is pretty new. There's a lot of
space to put stuff up there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Right there is, And I have to considered that that
that's probably a bit more feasible than in getting out
on the road and working for a company store. Yeah,
which to me, the entire touring industry, the ticket industry,
streaming industry, it's all just a company store to me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And I.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I don't know to what extent I can exist in
in that paradigm.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That that pair I wanted to read people should just
go to your Facebook page. Because the way you explained,
because you use the word paradigm, that's what I might
is stuck on that the way you explain sextist music.
Do you remember what you said? And there were so
many of your friends that said, oh yeah, I was
thinking the same thing. Well, I'm going to try to
get through it. Sexist is not merely a musical act.
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Is an industry agnostic crust dimensional paradigm shift and the
holistic renicns renaissance economy. By leveraging harmonic omnipotence as a
core competency, Sextist has successfully disrupted conventional frequency markets while
pioneering hyperadaptive auditory framework that transcends linear time models. So yeah,
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that's what I would have said, right about sexist. You
have a way with words, my friend.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I would say, that's just absurd and believable enough to
buy into.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Again, it's the humor in the video, in the music
on your social media. I definitely enjoy that. I don't
know if you saw. Baby Brownstone just made a brief
cameo just there. That's his nickname, Harrison is his real name, people, George. Yeah,
(19:14):
I'm gonna get him with my favorite Beatle. We were
gonna we couldn't do because obviously me guns and Roses,
my wife is probably more obsessed with her favorite band,
Dave Matthews. We toy for like a millisecond axel Matthews,
I can't do that. So we both love the Beatles.
I know it would have been too I would have
(19:34):
been too much. I would consider myself a loser, Like, really,
you need to have a podcast and the kidney axel
stop stop here.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, maybe a little too on the thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
So uh. We both love Paul McCartney, but what Paul,
I don't know. We wanted something a little bit more
with more pizazz. So like we just looked at each other,
Harrison like he's such the underrated beatle. Everyone talks about
Paul and George. Excuse me, Paul and Ring and Paul
and John. This is a sleep deprived dad coming out
at different points of this podcast. Paul and John and yeah,
(20:10):
so Harrison and then Rex, because you know, you got
to have a dinosaur in your in your life. So Harrison, Rex.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Sure, I love it. I love it. I think I
think you you named.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Him well, thank you. I asked this not just to
brag about him or bring it up next just to
brag about him. But when do you think because we
want to take him to we have taken to some concerts.
Dave Matthews, my wife Quiet. We were going to take
him to go see Slashes Blues Festival last year, too loud?
What about what would you recommend or what was the youngest?
(20:44):
How young were you when you saw your first concert?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh well, gosh, my first concert Like most people, my
age was kiss So that was nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, how old were.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You, gosh, fifty work or fifteen?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, so all right, so that's appropriate. So definitely not
too Your parents didn't take you anywhere? Oh no, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I think that if you take an infant out.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
To somewhere like that, you have to give them the
little baby headphone.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh yeah, he has headphones. Oh yeah, we're responsible.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And then when you get older, you totally blast your
brain out with massive amounts of volume, which is fun too.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
At a certain point, it's just like, all right, you're
not a baby anymore. You can destroy yourself like the
rest of society.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, put your body through the paces and boy, I've
been to some really loud concerts before I The second
time I saw Kiss was when Minnie Vincent was playing
with him, and I thought the coliseum was going to
cave in it was so flipping loud, but it was.
It was a good loud. It wasn't like hurt your ears.
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But I was worried that the structure around me was
going to just come down, you know, And those are
those are great experiences.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I thought Iron Maiden was.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Super loud back in the day, but you know, music
doesn't have to be necessarily too loud for me to
enjoy it either. I mean, some of my favorite concerts
were just moderately loud. Moderately Yeah, sometimes volume does get
your point.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Across, for sure, for sure, whether you want to listen
to Sextists, the new EP live or loud rather. But again,
there was a difference one with Slash and Slash's Snake
Pit and when I can bring it and see that's
my terrible transition into everything. Did you have any idea
(22:48):
that it's a thirtieth anniversary this year of It's five
o'clock somewhere?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I had heard rumblings of such, and it's kind of
hard to believe that that much time has passed, and
it's really even even greater feeling for me to know
that people still like that record and enjoy it. And
even the Guns and Roses fans that accepted me when
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I joined the band, you know that I'll never forget
that because I made some great, great friends along the
way during those years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's it really was a special time. And you know,
for me just trying to think back when I was younger,
you know, Guns and Roses had already broken up by
the time I was really cognizant, cognizant of music like
that and developing my favorite band. So Slash was still
active and he was active with with Slash the Snakepit,
and so I mean that band, that era, both albums
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are are special to me. But I'm telling you I
recently put up I like to do because we talk
about negativity, I try to be more positive, especially on
social media, where all the negativity seems to to really
reside to underrated songs, things that maybe people want a highlight,
that don't get talked about enough. So I did an
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underrated for Slash's Snakepit. It's five o'clock somewhere, and I'm
telling you, people still love that album. They love it
and it's just took one of their They talk about
it to this day and people were excited to come on. So, uh,
do you have it? I know you've spoken about it
over the years, but is there thirty years later, is
(24:31):
there a specific memory when I tell you that that
that comes to mind? Is it a certain show, is
it a certain song? Is it a certain moment with Slash?
What's the first thing that kind of pops into your head?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
There were a lot of great memories made during that time.
One of the things that that I've never been able
to experience since was in that brief time period we
went around before the record came out and we were
doing promotion. In the old days, a record company would
send you on a plane and you would go to
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certain markets and you'd go to the radio station and
play a couple of acoustic songs and you know, take calls,
do whatever. And I felt like I was in the
Rolling Stones. You know, we were just hanging out drinking
Jack Daniels, you know, smoking on planes in Italy and
just you know, getting police escorts and just it felt
(25:34):
like Beatlemania and the Rolling Stones all mixed into one
and only a few months prior to that, I'd been
sleeping on people's couches in La So I went from
from zero to one hundred and fifty and like you know,
a matter of a few weeks. So it was almost
a pitch yourself sort of situation. But that was a
(25:57):
great memory. Opening for Metallica was a great memory. At
Castle Donnington. I think that's to date the largest crowd
that I've ever played in front of. It was well
over one hundred thousand people, possibly more. It was just
humanity as far as the eye could see, and people
enjoying it too. So but we had, you know, we
(26:21):
had a lot of fun together and.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Writing and recording the record.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'll never forget as well, because I don't even know
that people will do this anymore. But they had already
recorded the tracks by the time they pulled me into
the band. So my job every day was to get
up and we would choose a song and I would
go upstairs in the studio lounge and just start writing
lyrics and it would take hours. But they were doing
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other things, you know, mixing and overdubbing or whatever, but
no TV, just a notebook and your imagination and a
lot of coffee and maybe a little bit of Jack Daniels,
but a lot of coffee. Just it took a lot
of concentration, but we got results pretty quick, you know,
(27:11):
because we were able to bounce ideas off each other
really easily, very easy for Slack.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's very accommodating like that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So, uh, you know, I would bring the lyrics downstairs,
and he'd make some suggestions and I would change some things,
and then we would get on the mic and start singing,
and by the end of the day it had had
a song completed, and it was it was a nice feeling,
you know, all all that work and then at the
end of the day you're like, wow, that came out good.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You know. So where a lot of great memories.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The because that's again the way you described it. It's
going from sleeping on people's couches and you know you
were already in jellyfish and known a little bit. But
I guess how did that go? And I'm sure you've
told the story in some fashion, but how did you
go from that zero to one fifty? How did Slash
discover you and have the confidence in you to write
(28:10):
the lyrics? Because I'm sure there were many singers chomping
at the bit to wanting to work with him to
be the you know Bizarro Axel Rose if you will,
you know, just his band that's not Guns Rose as well, It'stalling.
So how did it? How are you discovered for that slot?
And how did he have the confidence and did you
have the confidence in yourself to do it?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I definitely had the confidence from coming from Jellyfish. You
had to have confidence because that was a tough band
to be in. But I look at that as something
like a serendipitous, active faith that I even got.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
The gig to begin.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
With because I was at I was working with Roger
Joseph Manning Junior from Jellyfish, and we were in a
rehearsal room working on our songs that wound up being
the Imperial Drag record that was released in nineteen ninety six.
And the drummer we were playing with at the time
knew about the audition and we were at Mates Brothers,
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which is I don't know if you know anything about
Mates Brothers, but it's a really famous rehearsal space in
La and Guns and Roses rehearse there all the time.
So Slash's tech Adam Day was literally a few doors down,
and after talking to Roger about it, well, do you
think I should try it? Because I knew I could.
(29:36):
I could sing, I could sing rock. I've been doing
it all my life. I was the default singer growing up.
You know, nobody wanted to sing, so I knew that
I could at least give it a shot and be believable.
But it happened really fast. By the time I I
(29:59):
went over to to Slash his old house with Adam Day,
he was engineering and basically wrote Beggars and Hangers on
the lyrics and saying it on the spot. And so
I got a call back from Slash a couple of
hours after we had finished that, and he was like,
let's talk. So it happens really quick. But had I
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not been at Mate's rehearsal that day, it would have
never happened.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So thank you Jesus, Thank you Lord.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And your red light. If you're watching, because like went
on at the same time, maybe you should be thinking, Satan,
I don't know the way the light is.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Oh, I'm in the red light therapy. I mean, you
heard it's the new rage with all the kids.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh is it okay?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's supposed to make you look take your wrinkles out.
And I've got a lot of got a lot to
make up four years. I've got it on it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
My beard is hiding my wrinkles. So was Beggars and
Hangers On the first song that you wrote with for Slashes, Yeah, section, God,
that's such a legendary song. That's still if you watch
old performances of you like wow man like you just
feel you feel it the way you're the way you sing.
I mean, what just some thoughts on that song thirty
(31:12):
years later if you have.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, Yeah, Slash and Mike Clink.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
When I went in, they liked my voice and they
liked what it would do in certain instances, meaning they
wanted me to push it as far as I could,
which I was happy to do. But I think what
set me up to write those lyrics was I mean,
I'm gonna blame The Stones for all of it, because
(31:41):
from the time I got to LA with Jellyfish and
ever since then, I just I was absorbing Rolling Stones
records like mad because I love them, and so I
think some of those lyrics they're a little bit mic
jaggerish to me, you know, you promised to a well
went out to man. You know, it's just something in
(32:03):
my head. I thought that sounds like something Mick Jagger
would saying. You know, so in my book it that's
a that's kind of where that came from.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think a little bit. And listening to the let
It Blade.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Record and no wonder why it's it's so and then
it's it's like guns and Roses like they they'll take
that influence, especially when they had Izzy and it's put
through this certain you know, other medium slash and and
and and others, and then it comes out just more
of a hard rock sound and it's just still it's
it's aged. Well, you know, I wanted to ask because
(32:38):
you know you're talking. I was mentioned confidence, and you
have the confidence right then and there uh to be
with Slash and and they were also we talked about
the pressure last time I interviewed you. You would be
not not human to feel any pressure.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I don't know if this is true. This is
a conversation between you know, when I was talking about
you coming on between John and Mike get them shot
out on Facebook? Was there when you decided not to
do the second record? Was it a mutual decision, or
did you not want to be a front man at
that time, because that's kind of also been in this
that Slash and mentioned that, And I don't remember Slash
(33:15):
this book. It's been so many years since I read it,
that you were not ready to be a front man
at that time, because that's certainly not the case anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I had to do again with timing, and the timing
the world's collided, as it were. I came out to
LA to work with Roger Manning from Jellyfish so we
could pursue a record deal because Jellyfish had broken up
and neither of us wanted to quit. We had a
(33:46):
lot of songs in US and so we were already
working when I got that gig, so I sort of
got a permission for Roger to go off and play
with Slash. But in the meantime, while I was on
the road with Slash, we got a record deal with Sony,
and I remember signing the contract in Rotterdam, Holland, in
(34:09):
a hotel room of all places. Uh So we were
kind of legally obligated to to provide a record for Sony,
and I just couldn't do both, you know, And I
had to. I had to break it to Slash and
he wasn't very happy about it, but.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I had to. I had to move on. It was
just one of those things.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I was under the understanding too when I first got
into it, that it was going to be a pretty
limited h experience because Geffen, though they were very supportive
of UH Snake Pit, they really wanted a Guns and
(34:54):
Roses record, so that that never really died throughout the
whole promotions cycle.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Uh So for me, the writing was kind of on
the wall that I had to go off.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I had to go back and and do the Imperial
Drag record, and I'm glad I did. I don't have
any regrets about it. And then they got Rod Jackson,
who I think wonderful singer. I thought he was perfect
Brian Roxy, So yeah, that's kind of how that went.
I mean, it had nothing to do with me wanting
(35:28):
to be a front man or not. I just didn't,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, because now that I believe we probably discussed this
maybe the first time that you were on, but I
always my listeners no more than me, So I was like,
did I miss something in there? So I just wanted
to make sure that I at least clarified that. And
obviously you did make the right decision. I mean that
that second record eight ne Grand was Rod Jackson is
(35:56):
fantastic as well, and you guys have a great era
of of music. Do you remember, though, because you were
talking about Geffen wanting gn R, is that why Matt
left initially? Because he was initially part of Snake Pit
but didn't continue? Right? Did he go back to gn
R or what is? Do you remember why why he
didn't stay?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I don't remember very well actually, I mean thirty years
is thirty years.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But yeah, he was, he.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Was still in gn R, so I guess it makes
sense that he wanted to get on with another gn
R record. But I haven't seen Matt a few years.
I assume he's doing well.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, he's got itself. He's got a I think his
daughter is like a maybe a year older than than Harrison.
So it's it's cool to see someone you know, he's
he's lived a tough life too, and he's joined being
a dad and he's making music, so.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's good. I always always like Matt a lot. Everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Mikun Is from Elison, another super chill, wonderful guy.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
To be around.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I don't think i've seen him in gosh, twenty five years.
I'm sure he's doing great, though.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
What was the last time he spoke to Slash.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's it's been a number of years now. You know,
if you live in LA you're always busy with music,
You're always working on things. You have some of your
best friends live across town. You never see him, and
I think that's a little bit of the case. He
stays really busy and I do too, But I'm sure
(37:38):
one of these days we may bump into each other again,
and you know, reminisce about old times. But I see him,
you know, follow his career like any any of us do.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So well, I hope, because he's always putting out that
I shouldn't say always, but he has. He has in
the past put out albums with multiple singers, so just
be I don't know, it's always like a fan wish list,
like just Dover and Slash one more time. So you
never know. So I'm glad at least that door is open.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
You never know, right, Yeah, I don't discount anything. You know.
If things happen, they happen, and if not, there's a reason.
And I'm just proud of the work that we did together,
you know. And I have a lot of respect for
Slash as a musician, you know im mint, so I
(38:31):
wish him always the best of whatever he pursues.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
There's another project that involves a Guns to Roses member
that you were involved with, and hopefully I get mister
Stephen Chesney back on the podcast soon. You did a
song with or I guess a project with you and
vocals and Dizzy read on Keys. So can you talk
about that again? Stephen, who when he wants to sounds
(38:57):
a lot like Axel Rose, and he's put out songs
where people think it's old school Guns and Roses, but
it's actually him. But this is called Agent Agents of
Your Demise, which is Stephen Chesney, Eric Dover, Dizzy read
Ray Lucier from Korn, and Billy Sheen from Mister Big.
I mean, that's that's pretty cool. Can you talk about
(39:17):
that project as well?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yes, Uh, Steven's a really good friend of mine. We
talk literally every day. We have the same sick sense
of humor and during during COVID ooks, I don't know
if I'm allowed to say that anymore for the censors.
During the sea time he said, I have this project,
(39:41):
do you want to do it? And we were all
sitting at home, you know, pulling our PUDs, and I
was like, yeah, totally want to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And it was a it was a great outlet because.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
You know Stephen, he writes, he's a good brider, great player,
and so the song were already kind of arranged very well,
so it was something I could sink my teeth into
and he just set me wild and said, do what
you want. I did what I wanted. He liked it
so and really the final product, the final final record,
(40:21):
sounds fantastic.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I mean, he really did it in a very loving way, so.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Awesome. Well, people can check that out on Stephen, which
is the pH Stephen Chesney's YouTube page. Agents of Your
Demise is the name of the project. Nothing's made to
last for that and of course for Eric himself. We
have mister Mushroom over here, Hello to the Mushroom sextus,
(40:50):
new EP, new songs. So you're just enjoying this ride,
this new EP, or is there anything in the future
for Eric Dorf that you're still that you see on
the horizon you want to get to.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Really more of writing for sexists I mean, that's kind
of an ongoing thing. So I want to keep putting
music out. It may get a little bit weirder. I've
decided to kind of maybe my music might get weird
(41:24):
and unlikable. Let's just put it that way. I don't
know yet. I just feel I'm just feeling more experimental.
They're one say pragish, though I'm not, you know, I'm
not in yes or nothing. It's just I just feel like, yeah,
(41:44):
that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I mean, that's the only way I can put it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
That's the best sell for music. My music is going
to get weird and unlikable.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Very well.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
May And I've sort of like I love pop music,
and I love pop sensibilities. I love pop arrangements, you know,
everything from the Carpenters to Guns n' Roses to any
of these bands that we know and love. But I
also like weird music, you know, and and misunderstood music,
and just like what the hell is this? You know,
(42:15):
like I actually enjoy stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So hey, we'll.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
See you know, Hey, so do I And so I
like what I hear from Sextust. So you can get
digital downloads of all of these of sexist the New Hello,
the Mushroom EP and all those past albums or do
I say they when I referred to Sextist, I should
say it like so their past albums on sextus dot com. Eric,
(42:41):
thank you so much for coming back on the podcast today.
Thanks for the laughs, thanks for you know, reminiscing about
Snake Pitt and enjoy your red light and I hope
we get to do this again.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Thank you, Brandon. I've had a great time talking to
you man.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
So that hey, you keep Harrison in line. He is.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
He's almost nap time, so it's probably my job now
to get him because he he has to hold on
to my ear right to fall asleep and I actually
had to get new ear rings because he pulled them out.
So it's so it's with me like he'll he last night,
first time ever bed he's pointing to me bed, telling
me to get into bed. But I was still up
(43:23):
doing work and I probably should take care of my dying,
coughing wife back there as well. So I have a couple. Couple.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Here's my eighteen year old, Oh, this is show ground show.
He wants food always. We call him the Sarge because
at six o'clock every morning he starts yelling, get out
of bed, eat food.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So you know what, let me say this. I told
you a little bit off the air because I dedicated
I had Todd Kerns on a few episodes ago, and
he's a big cat guy as well, and I had
lost It was my my wife's cat, but it became
my cat, and when we started dating, basically he had
passed and I, you know, it was like one that
there was the cat that made me fall in love
(44:06):
with cats, And this was like a month or so ago.
So I dedicated that episode to t Gibi. I'm gonna
dedicate this one to Blackie Blackie Clawless, who just as
I know both of our guys, I got sick at
the same time. Just awful. He was maybe days away
from being nineteen. He went blind in the last few weeks.
(44:29):
But he was just like your dude. He would wake
me up, he would just and he was sleep on
my head every night. I mean he was fifteen. I
met him when he was fifteen, so I didn't know
him that long. But what a profound effect he's had.
I never imagine having a pet sleep on me, and
it was amazing. He might and my son was. It
(44:51):
depends if he was good with the cats or not.
We would tell him soft soft and even soft soft,
and then it hit him. But then he would love them.
He's like ear start touching their ear tail, tail, start
pulling at their tail. No, don't pull anyway. Now I digress.
I'm I'll let everybody know when I get a new KAP,
but we need some time to heal. Anyway, you take care,
(45:15):
You take care of your dude. I'll take care of
my dudes. And that does it for this episode of
Appetite for Distortion. When will you see the next one?
In the words of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see
it thanks to the lame ass security.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
I'm going home.
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion,
(00:33):
Episode number four hundred and ninety seven. My name is Brando.
Welcome back to the podcast, mister Eric Dover. How are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Knowing great Brando, Good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, likewise, I was telling you just off the air
because you were on I think in two thousand and two.
And you know my listeners, you know, I obviously it's
all about I try to make this podcast not about me,
but sometimes I can't help it. So like when I
lose a tooth from a car accident and I'm hiding
behind the microphone, I have to bring it up. So
(01:06):
recently I had edited here's a highlight from our interview
back then, and I'm just seeing my face hiding behind
the microphone to hide my my lack of a tooth.
Now I have the implant in. Looks nice, right, looks real? Yeah,
And I think he did. And then I had my
old backup pair of glasses on because those my original
(01:29):
ones were broken in the car accident, and now I
have these nice. There's no reflection in these. So now
I'm just glad I can have an interview with you
where I feel like I don't look like I was
in a car accident. So it was thanks for thanks
for coming back.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
On, well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I look at myself and feel like I've been in
a car accident even though I haven't.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I guess. So that's I'm starting to feel that
ever since I turned forty. I don't know how that
makes you feel, but anyway, I digress. You know, maybe
that's a nice setup to everything, the word car accident
because here we're talking about if you're watching on zoom. No,
Eric hasn't changed his name to Sextust. That's that's the
(02:12):
name of his his band that's been around for god no,
how long has sexists been around for thirty plus?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Over twenty five years?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
To see if I initially came up with the project, Yeah, wow,
started in like nineteen ninety nine, so.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Wow, I mean that's while I mean, so congratulations just
on that. But now the new Sextus EP, Hello to
the Mushroom, is now available on sextust dot com. And
I wanted to bring up car Crash because if you
don't mind, I love your sense of humor, which is
portrayed in the video which we're going to get into it.
(02:50):
For your your single. Oh, I just had it up here.
The name what's the name of your single? I just
had it up here, Lithario. How did I forget that?
Because I had this whole set up to where I'm
gonna start to call you Eric Lithario dover because because
I haven't heard that word in a minute. So Lothario.
(03:11):
So if you go to your Facebook page just you know,
facebook dot com slash sexist music, if you don't mind,
because you shared it, it's a bad review of your album.
And I think of anything, I think it works in
your favor. So if you don't mind me you setting
this up, blessed you to my I don't know if
(03:32):
you heard my wife's niece, bless you. So I have
baby Brownstone, by the way, my almost two year old,
who may join us at any point, but he was
dancing at Lathario earlier. So this is a review of
Hello the Mushroom by sexists. If you ever wondered what
it would sound like if Kendrick Lamar repeatedly kicked a
gumball machine that the spens has expired, narcan Hello the
(03:54):
mushroom as you covered. This album stumbles through genres like
a drunk uncle at a wedding over new wave glam
rock and whatever was left of sexist dignity on the
way down. The production is so baffingly chaotic that even
the AI generated Elevator music would beg for a remaster.
(04:14):
It's as if somebody locked David Bowie, a kazoo orchestra,
and a malfunctioning speaking spell in a garage and told
them to work it out. Spoiler alert, they didn't. I disagree.
We'll get to that. But still a lot of these
things I think are just I don't know. I see
you're smirking. It's fun. It's former paragraph, so it's almost over. Thankfully.
(04:35):
Sextist somehow makes these shags sound like the Juilliard virtuosos,
delivering performances of so off kilter they could be used
to calibrate a seismograph. The lyrics are either profound or
the fever dream of a man who fell asleep reading
conspiracy forums while huffing glue. It's impossible to tell. If
(04:57):
music could have a physical form, this album would be
a pile of meltic cassette tapes. Found in the backseat
of a car that's been sitting in Death Valley since
nineteen ninety four. And yet, despite all of this, or
maybe because of it, Hello the Mushroom has an inescapable
charm like a three legged dog winning a foot race. Baffling, misguided,
and somehow impossible to look away from. Why not go
(05:20):
to sexist dot com and decide for yourself. Sorry, I
needed to. I read that, I laughed. I love that
you shared it. Please tell us about this new record.
Are they right in any any point in that? Are
you like a three legged dog or you like Meltic cassettes?
What is it like?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh, I'm definitely more like a three legged dog. No.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, you know, with all reviews there's goodwins and bad ones.
That one does have a bit of humor to it.
But yeah, as far as Hello the Mushroom, the EP it,
you know, it took about a year to It's only
six songs.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's volume one.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
There's going to be a volume two, six songs of
sonic excellence, of just songs that I've written through the
years that I thought were good enough to finish and complete.
And so they kind of run the gamut from deranged
glam pop rock stylings to a kind of darker numbers,
(06:29):
but definitely more in the pop rock power pop realm.
It's not like very it's not hard rock except in places,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So sure.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
All the songs that have a little bit of something
different to them, I think, which is kind of one
of the reasons I wanted to put that collection out
at the time, you know, in that order. So I'm
excited and very happy to have it out. I've had
some good reviews.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Too, those are also posted. But again, I just think
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The bad ones, isn't it. They're always more fun.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
To read because they try too hard to be bad,
you know, trying to be clever with their analogies, and
there were cultural references, but all that did was make
me smile and make me like, yeah, that sounds kind
of awesome. I mean, like, what does a narcan sound like?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's just like, I don't know, I think that's fine,
especially had I read that after I watched the video
for Lothario, which is kind of like a fever dream,
and there are some images of you.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm sorry, I can't get out of my head now.
I mean, you are, you make for an attractive lady.
But now, I don't know. I can't get that out.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Of my friends.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Some of my friends said, here's that chick, and I'm like, okay,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Me, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I mean that that was a lot of fun
to do because, you know, for those I'm not going
to spoil it who hasn't seen it, but I'm playing
a myriad of different characters, and.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know, go check it out. It's also it's also
a western, so.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm a big fan of any of More Coney and
all those Clint Eastwood movies and things from the day,
I mean, all all the cowboy movies I grew up watching. Anyway,
but I thought it would be a little more fun
to do something like that to get the point across
of the song rather than just another check me out,
(08:28):
I'm in a rock band video, here's my abs and.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Shit, you know so yeah, I like that decision. I mean, well,
if you have abs, I don't know, maybe you could
have showed them at some point, but this is me.
I have a I guess have like a French five belly.
I don't. I don't know if I have one ab.
I have one ab But I like the fact that
you didn't do a lyric video. I mean, maybe these
(08:51):
things will come, but you took it back to the
old school fun music video. It just reminded me like
of an old food Fighters, you know, learn to Fly,
where they're all in different characters. So is that something
that you've you've always enjoyed doing, whether it's in a
music video or do you have any sort of performance chops.
Were you ever in guys and dolls in a you know,
(09:14):
community theater and anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes, I was. Actually I was a little bit of
a theater kid.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I was obviously more consumed with music, but high school,
in college I did.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A few things. Dracula Nice I was in that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I was in Man of La Manta, and once I
got in college, I got.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Cast in god Spell. I don't know if you ever saw.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That, I know of it. I haven't ever had work, so.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Acting and hamming it up has always been pretty natural
for me. Because I'm a middle child as well, so
I had to compete with the other two for attention,
and I was a real pain in the ass, kind
of a horrible kid.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know. It's one of my parents didn't drown me,
but thankfully they didn't. So.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But but just doing things like that, making up skits.
It's the stuff that you do in childhood, but it
seems to have carried over to my adult life because
I can sit around and just laugh about anything for hours,
or make up parodies, you know, different song lyrics to
classic rock.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Songs, or just anything to promote.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Mirth and little a little bit of happiness and what
could be an otherwise unspectacular, boring life, you know, just
try to make things interesting, shake it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I thought you were going to say, I don't
know about an interesting and boring life. I just thought
you were going to say, you know, the way the
state of the world is in a relief. But it's
so it's interesting how you you phrased it like that,
because I would and listeners and fans of yours would
look at you and say, not a not a boring life?
Is that just the feeling you have that you feel
(11:05):
is there more that you could be doing here? Wish
you could have done?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm more I kind of meant it more like just
your regular day to.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Day grind, you know what I mean, And how that
can get repetitive and boring. I wouldn't say that I've
had a boring life by any stretch of the match.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Okay, I was like, damn.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But but you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Know, you get in these ruts, whether it's creatively or
we're in your job or whatever. So I think I
try to rail against that, you know. I mean, you
ask anybody that knows me. I'm going to try to
crack a joke at some point if the opportunity presents itself,
(11:46):
but say here, just to shake things up.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, sure, even if it bombs. So I'm like,
even if you're if you're not laughing with me, if
you're laughing at me, as long as you're laughing whatever,
that's always a goal of mine. So that's definitely the
case in the video. And again I don't want to
spoil it for anybody, just to see Eric and all
these different characters. As far as the song itself, which
(12:10):
you can stream right now. For Lothario, what where that
inspiration come from? You said, the video kind of helped
tell the story? Where's the story? Because again, Lothario is
a I wish I was known as a Lothario, just
a ladies man, right.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, So it's you know, but an fictional Italian character.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, it's a casanova.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Now we do know people that are actual casanova's in
real life. They have a touch with with people. But
in this instance, I wrote it out of It's really
more of a song about the inability to foster intimacy
(12:55):
kind of due to you know, a lothario in my
mind will fall in love every day and then by
Monday it's over. So I'm not I'm not digging at
someone that could be considered astorio. It's just sort of
an observation. And then I sort of coupled that with
(13:18):
with technology, you know, because everybody is glued to their
phone now and nobody really talks or meets in person.
You have a lot of people that have met and
got married and had kids from dating apps.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Me, that's all cool the time. The times have changed,
you know, for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I tried. I refused it for a while, Eric, I
really did. I didn't want to do a dating app. Uh.
And then it's just very hard to meet people. And
then there's my my wife and the couch over there
from bumble.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, it's it's not Uh, it's not unheard of.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I have a lot of friends that are like that also, uh,
poking a little bit fun at myself in the song,
because I I've sort of lived those words a little
bit too, you know, falling in love every week or
I mean, this is kind of going back to my
younger days. But I realized what a fool I'd been
(14:17):
and how I never really made any true relationships out
of it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Despite my my wanting to.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So it's a little bit of a dig at myself
as well, and it really just meant to have fun with.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is that something is there? I hate that to ask this,
but as this is Eric Dover still looking for love,
is that something that that's other than making.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I'm I'm quite happy now.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But it really came down to when I realized your
first love as a musician, in a lot of ways,
is always going to be music. There's no way to
really separate yourself from it. I became a lot happier
after that.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It was just sort of took the clouds away a bit.
I think so.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But no, I'm I'm quite happy now, and at this
stage of my life, I'm more creative than ever and
you know, I've got new music out and I'm really
excited to keep making more for anyone that wants.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
To hear it awesome to hear. Do you plan to
tour this this EP or do dates or anything live.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I haven't ruled it out, but it's not very likely
because I'm an independent label and I have been since
the inception of Sextist. And I don't know if you've
talked to any of your other friends that are in
touring bands, but it's gotten to the point where it's
prohibitively expensive. Yeah, and I'm I'm a little too well,
(15:53):
a little too independent, and I've got to tour the
world with some of the greats like Slash or Alice
Cooper or Jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So and I've hopped.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
In a few bands since then, and you know, toured
around Europe, in the UK and even went to India.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Excuse me, but.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
In order to do it the way that you really
want to do it, you know, you have to admit
that it's going to cost a lot of money to finance.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I haven't reached that point yet.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I'm not going to rule it out, but I'm
not gonna say get ready to kids, I'm coming to
your town yet.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Sure. Now, you hear so many bands that you just
think like, okay, how could they ever have a problem
and they have to cancel dates or touring? Is that
you hear that that's the unfortunate. I don't know if
it's a byproduct of COVID and people not wanting to
still go out as much or spend the money it
(16:52):
ticketmaster prices and it hurts the independence, you know, more
than anything. So it's it's difficult to hear. But I
guess talking to a creative you could always get creative
with it. We're talking about technology. You're on social media.
Any chance of maybe like just doing you know, maybe
(17:12):
like a live performance or a pre recorded performance, you know,
you w and a guitar of a song, or your
your YouTube page is pretty new. There's a lot of
space to put stuff up there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Right there is, And I have to considered that that
that's probably a bit more feasible than in getting out
on the road and working for a company store. Yeah,
which to me, the entire touring industry, the ticket industry,
streaming industry, it's all just a company store to me.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And I.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I don't know to what extent I can exist in
in that paradigm.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That that pair I wanted to read people should just
go to your Facebook page. Because the way you explained,
because you use the word paradigm, that's what I might
is stuck on that the way you explain sextist music.
Do you remember what you said? And there were so
many of your friends that said, oh yeah, I was
thinking the same thing. Well, I'm going to try to
get through it. Sexist is not merely a musical act.
(18:15):
Is an industry agnostic crust dimensional paradigm shift and the
holistic renicns renaissance economy. By leveraging harmonic omnipotence as a
core competency, Sextist has successfully disrupted conventional frequency markets while
pioneering hyperadaptive auditory framework that transcends linear time models. So yeah,
(18:41):
that's what I would have said, right about sexist. You
have a way with words, my friend.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I would say, that's just absurd and believable enough to
buy into.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Again, it's the humor in the video, in the music
on your social media. I definitely enjoy that. I don't
know if you saw. Baby Brownstone just made a brief
cameo just there. That's his nickname, Harrison is his real name, people, George. Yeah,
(19:14):
I'm gonna get him with my favorite Beatle. We were
gonna we couldn't do because obviously me guns and Roses,
my wife is probably more obsessed with her favorite band,
Dave Matthews. We toy for like a millisecond axel Matthews,
I can't do that. So we both love the Beatles.
I know it would have been too I would have
(19:34):
been too much. I would consider myself a loser, Like, really,
you need to have a podcast and the kidney axel
stop stop here.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, maybe a little too on the thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
So uh. We both love Paul McCartney, but what Paul,
I don't know. We wanted something a little bit more
with more pizazz. So like we just looked at each other,
Harrison like he's such the underrated beatle. Everyone talks about
Paul and George. Excuse me, Paul and Ring and Paul
and John. This is a sleep deprived dad coming out
at different points of this podcast. Paul and John and yeah,
(20:10):
so Harrison and then Rex, because you know, you got
to have a dinosaur in your in your life. So Harrison, Rex.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Sure, I love it. I love it. I think I
think you you named.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Him well, thank you. I asked this not just to
brag about him or bring it up next just to
brag about him. But when do you think because we
want to take him to we have taken to some concerts.
Dave Matthews, my wife Quiet. We were going to take
him to go see Slashes Blues Festival last year, too loud?
What about what would you recommend or what was the youngest?
(20:44):
How young were you when you saw your first concert?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh well, gosh, my first concert Like most people, my
age was kiss So that was nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, how old were.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You, gosh, fifty work or fifteen?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, so all right, so that's appropriate. So definitely not
too Your parents didn't take you anywhere? Oh no, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I think that if you take an infant out.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
To somewhere like that, you have to give them the
little baby headphone.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh yeah, he has headphones. Oh yeah, we're responsible.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And then when you get older, you totally blast your
brain out with massive amounts of volume, which is fun too.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
At a certain point, it's just like, all right, you're
not a baby anymore. You can destroy yourself like the
rest of society.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, put your body through the paces and boy, I've
been to some really loud concerts before I The second
time I saw Kiss was when Minnie Vincent was playing
with him, and I thought the coliseum was going to
cave in it was so flipping loud, but it was.
It was a good loud. It wasn't like hurt your ears.
(21:59):
But I was worried that the structure around me was
going to just come down, you know, And those are
those are great experiences.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I thought Iron Maiden was.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Super loud back in the day, but you know, music
doesn't have to be necessarily too loud for me to
enjoy it either. I mean, some of my favorite concerts
were just moderately loud. Moderately Yeah, sometimes volume does get
your point.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Across, for sure, for sure, whether you want to listen
to Sextists, the new EP live or loud rather. But again,
there was a difference one with Slash and Slash's Snake
Pit and when I can bring it and see that's
my terrible transition into everything. Did you have any idea
(22:48):
that it's a thirtieth anniversary this year of It's five
o'clock somewhere?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I had heard rumblings of such, and it's kind of
hard to believe that that much time has passed, and
it's really even even greater feeling for me to know
that people still like that record and enjoy it. And
even the Guns and Roses fans that accepted me when
(23:16):
I joined the band, you know that I'll never forget
that because I made some great, great friends along the
way during those years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's it really was a special time. And you know,
for me just trying to think back when I was younger,
you know, Guns and Roses had already broken up by
the time I was really cognizant, cognizant of music like
that and developing my favorite band. So Slash was still
active and he was active with with Slash the Snakepit,
and so I mean that band, that era, both albums
(23:51):
are are special to me. But I'm telling you I
recently put up I like to do because we talk
about negativity, I try to be more positive, especially on
social media, where all the negativity seems to to really
reside to underrated songs, things that maybe people want a highlight,
that don't get talked about enough. So I did an
(24:11):
underrated for Slash's Snakepit. It's five o'clock somewhere, and I'm
telling you, people still love that album. They love it
and it's just took one of their They talk about
it to this day and people were excited to come on. So, uh,
do you have it? I know you've spoken about it
over the years, but is there thirty years later, is
(24:31):
there a specific memory when I tell you that that
that comes to mind? Is it a certain show, is
it a certain song? Is it a certain moment with Slash?
What's the first thing that kind of pops into your head?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
There were a lot of great memories made during that time.
One of the things that that I've never been able
to experience since was in that brief time period we
went around before the record came out and we were
doing promotion. In the old days, a record company would
send you on a plane and you would go to
(25:09):
certain markets and you'd go to the radio station and
play a couple of acoustic songs and you know, take calls,
do whatever. And I felt like I was in the
Rolling Stones. You know, we were just hanging out drinking
Jack Daniels, you know, smoking on planes in Italy and
just you know, getting police escorts and just it felt
(25:34):
like Beatlemania and the Rolling Stones all mixed into one
and only a few months prior to that, I'd been
sleeping on people's couches in La So I went from
from zero to one hundred and fifty and like you know,
a matter of a few weeks. So it was almost
a pitch yourself sort of situation. But that was a
(25:57):
great memory. Opening for Metallica was a great memory. At
Castle Donnington. I think that's to date the largest crowd
that I've ever played in front of. It was well
over one hundred thousand people, possibly more. It was just
humanity as far as the eye could see, and people
enjoying it too. So but we had, you know, we
(26:21):
had a lot of fun together and.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Writing and recording the record.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'll never forget as well, because I don't even know
that people will do this anymore. But they had already
recorded the tracks by the time they pulled me into
the band. So my job every day was to get
up and we would choose a song and I would
go upstairs in the studio lounge and just start writing
lyrics and it would take hours. But they were doing
(26:50):
other things, you know, mixing and overdubbing or whatever, but
no TV, just a notebook and your imagination and a
lot of coffee and maybe a little bit of Jack Daniels,
but a lot of coffee. Just it took a lot
of concentration, but we got results pretty quick, you know,
(27:11):
because we were able to bounce ideas off each other
really easily, very easy for Slack.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's very accommodating like that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So, uh, you know, I would bring the lyrics downstairs,
and he'd make some suggestions and I would change some things,
and then we would get on the mic and start singing,
and by the end of the day it had had
a song completed, and it was it was a nice feeling,
you know, all all that work and then at the
end of the day you're like, wow, that came out good.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You know. So where a lot of great memories.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The because that's again the way you described it. It's
going from sleeping on people's couches and you know you
were already in jellyfish and known a little bit. But
I guess how did that go? And I'm sure you've
told the story in some fashion, but how did you
go from that zero to one fifty? How did Slash
discover you and have the confidence in you to write
(28:10):
the lyrics? Because I'm sure there were many singers chomping
at the bit to wanting to work with him to
be the you know Bizarro Axel Rose if you will,
you know, just his band that's not Guns Rose as well, It'stalling.
So how did it? How are you discovered for that slot?
And how did he have the confidence and did you
have the confidence in yourself to do it?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I definitely had the confidence from coming from Jellyfish. You
had to have confidence because that was a tough band
to be in. But I look at that as something
like a serendipitous, active faith that I even got.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
The gig to begin.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
With because I was at I was working with Roger
Joseph Manning Junior from Jellyfish, and we were in a
rehearsal room working on our songs that wound up being
the Imperial Drag record that was released in nineteen ninety six.
And the drummer we were playing with at the time
knew about the audition and we were at Mates Brothers,
(29:13):
which is I don't know if you know anything about
Mates Brothers, but it's a really famous rehearsal space in
La and Guns and Roses rehearse there all the time.
So Slash's tech Adam Day was literally a few doors down,
and after talking to Roger about it, well, do you
think I should try it? Because I knew I could.
(29:36):
I could sing, I could sing rock. I've been doing
it all my life. I was the default singer growing up.
You know, nobody wanted to sing, so I knew that
I could at least give it a shot and be believable.
But it happened really fast. By the time I I
(29:59):
went over to to Slash his old house with Adam Day,
he was engineering and basically wrote Beggars and Hangers on
the lyrics and saying it on the spot. And so
I got a call back from Slash a couple of
hours after we had finished that, and he was like,
let's talk. So it happens really quick. But had I
(30:21):
not been at Mate's rehearsal that day, it would have
never happened.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So thank you Jesus, Thank you Lord.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And your red light. If you're watching, because like went
on at the same time, maybe you should be thinking, Satan,
I don't know the way the light is.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Oh, I'm in the red light therapy. I mean, you
heard it's the new rage with all the kids.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh is it okay?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's supposed to make you look take your wrinkles out.
And I've got a lot of got a lot to
make up four years. I've got it on it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
My beard is hiding my wrinkles. So was Beggars and
Hangers On the first song that you wrote with for Slashes, Yeah, section, God,
that's such a legendary song. That's still if you watch
old performances of you like wow man like you just
feel you feel it the way you're the way you sing.
I mean, what just some thoughts on that song thirty
(31:12):
years later if you have.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, Yeah, Slash and Mike Clink.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
When I went in, they liked my voice and they
liked what it would do in certain instances, meaning they
wanted me to push it as far as I could,
which I was happy to do. But I think what
set me up to write those lyrics was I mean,
I'm gonna blame The Stones for all of it, because
(31:41):
from the time I got to LA with Jellyfish and
ever since then, I just I was absorbing Rolling Stones
records like mad because I love them, and so I
think some of those lyrics they're a little bit mic
jaggerish to me, you know, you promised to a well
went out to man. You know, it's just something in
(32:03):
my head. I thought that sounds like something Mick Jagger
would saying. You know, so in my book it that's
a that's kind of where that came from.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think a little bit. And listening to the let
It Blade.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Record and no wonder why it's it's so and then
it's it's like guns and Roses like they they'll take
that influence, especially when they had Izzy and it's put
through this certain you know, other medium slash and and
and and others, and then it comes out just more
of a hard rock sound and it's just still it's
it's aged. Well, you know, I wanted to ask because
(32:38):
you know you're talking. I was mentioned confidence, and you
have the confidence right then and there uh to be
with Slash and and they were also we talked about
the pressure last time I interviewed you. You would be
not not human to feel any pressure.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I don't know if this is true. This is
a conversation between you know, when I was talking about
you coming on between John and Mike get them shot
out on Facebook? Was there when you decided not to
do the second record? Was it a mutual decision, or
did you not want to be a front man at
that time, because that's kind of also been in this
that Slash and mentioned that, And I don't remember Slash
(33:15):
this book. It's been so many years since I read it,
that you were not ready to be a front man
at that time, because that's certainly not the case anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I had to do again with timing, and the timing
the world's collided, as it were. I came out to
LA to work with Roger Manning from Jellyfish so we
could pursue a record deal because Jellyfish had broken up
and neither of us wanted to quit. We had a
(33:46):
lot of songs in US and so we were already
working when I got that gig, so I sort of
got a permission for Roger to go off and play
with Slash. But in the meantime, while I was on
the road with Slash, we got a record deal with Sony,
and I remember signing the contract in Rotterdam, Holland, in
(34:09):
a hotel room of all places. Uh So we were
kind of legally obligated to to provide a record for Sony,
and I just couldn't do both, you know, And I
had to. I had to break it to Slash and
he wasn't very happy about it, but.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I had to. I had to move on. It was
just one of those things.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I was under the understanding too when I first got
into it, that it was going to be a pretty
limited h experience because Geffen, though they were very supportive
of UH Snake Pit, they really wanted a Guns and
(34:54):
Roses record, so that that never really died throughout the
whole promotions cycle.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Uh So for me, the writing was kind of on
the wall that I had to go off.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I had to go back and and do the Imperial
Drag record, and I'm glad I did. I don't have
any regrets about it. And then they got Rod Jackson,
who I think wonderful singer. I thought he was perfect
Brian Roxy, So yeah, that's kind of how that went.
I mean, it had nothing to do with me wanting
(35:28):
to be a front man or not. I just didn't,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, because now that I believe we probably discussed this
maybe the first time that you were on, but I
always my listeners no more than me, So I was like,
did I miss something in there? So I just wanted
to make sure that I at least clarified that. And
obviously you did make the right decision. I mean that
that second record eight ne Grand was Rod Jackson is
(35:56):
fantastic as well, and you guys have a great era
of of music. Do you remember, though, because you were
talking about Geffen wanting gn R, is that why Matt
left initially? Because he was initially part of Snake Pit
but didn't continue? Right? Did he go back to gn
R or what is? Do you remember why why he
didn't stay?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I don't remember very well actually, I mean thirty years
is thirty years.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But yeah, he was, he.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Was still in gn R, so I guess it makes
sense that he wanted to get on with another gn
R record. But I haven't seen Matt a few years.
I assume he's doing well.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, he's got itself. He's got a I think his
daughter is like a maybe a year older than than Harrison.
So it's it's cool to see someone you know, he's
he's lived a tough life too, and he's joined being
a dad and he's making music, so.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's good. I always always like Matt a lot. Everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Mikun Is from Elison, another super chill, wonderful guy.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
To be around.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I don't think i've seen him in gosh, twenty five years.
I'm sure he's doing great, though.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
What was the last time he spoke to Slash.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's it's been a number of years now. You know,
if you live in LA you're always busy with music,
You're always working on things. You have some of your
best friends live across town. You never see him, and
I think that's a little bit of the case. He
stays really busy and I do too, But I'm sure
(37:38):
one of these days we may bump into each other again,
and you know, reminisce about old times. But I see him,
you know, follow his career like any any of us do.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So well, I hope, because he's always putting out that
I shouldn't say always, but he has. He has in
the past put out albums with multiple singers, so just
be I don't know, it's always like a fan wish list,
like just Dover and Slash one more time. So you
never know. So I'm glad at least that door is open.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
You never know, right, Yeah, I don't discount anything. You know.
If things happen, they happen, and if not, there's a reason.
And I'm just proud of the work that we did together,
you know. And I have a lot of respect for
Slash as a musician, you know im mint, so I
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wish him always the best of whatever he pursues.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
There's another project that involves a Guns to Roses member
that you were involved with, and hopefully I get mister
Stephen Chesney back on the podcast soon. You did a
song with or I guess a project with you and
vocals and Dizzy read on Keys. So can you talk
about that again? Stephen, who when he wants to sounds
(38:57):
a lot like Axel Rose, and he's put out songs
where people think it's old school Guns and Roses, but
it's actually him. But this is called Agent Agents of
Your Demise, which is Stephen Chesney, Eric Dover, Dizzy read
Ray Lucier from Korn, and Billy Sheen from Mister Big.
I mean, that's that's pretty cool. Can you talk about
(39:17):
that project as well?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yes, Uh, Steven's a really good friend of mine. We
talk literally every day. We have the same sick sense
of humor and during during COVID ooks, I don't know
if I'm allowed to say that anymore for the censors.
During the sea time he said, I have this project,
(39:41):
do you want to do it? And we were all
sitting at home, you know, pulling our PUDs, and I
was like, yeah, totally want to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And it was a it was a great outlet because.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
You know Stephen, he writes, he's a good brider, great player,
and so the song were already kind of arranged very well,
so it was something I could sink my teeth into
and he just set me wild and said, do what
you want. I did what I wanted. He liked it
so and really the final product, the final final record,
(40:21):
sounds fantastic.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I mean, he really did it in a very loving way, so.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Awesome. Well, people can check that out on Stephen, which
is the pH Stephen Chesney's YouTube page. Agents of Your
Demise is the name of the project. Nothing's made to
last for that and of course for Eric himself. We
have mister Mushroom over here, Hello to the Mushroom sextus,
(40:50):
new EP, new songs. So you're just enjoying this ride,
this new EP, or is there anything in the future
for Eric Dorf that you're still that you see on
the horizon you want to get to.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Really more of writing for sexists I mean, that's kind
of an ongoing thing. So I want to keep putting
music out. It may get a little bit weirder. I've
decided to kind of maybe my music might get weird
(41:24):
and unlikable. Let's just put it that way. I don't
know yet. I just feel I'm just feeling more experimental.
They're one say pragish, though I'm not, you know, I'm
not in yes or nothing. It's just I just feel like, yeah,
(41:44):
that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I mean, that's the only way I can put it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
That's the best sell for music. My music is going
to get weird and unlikable.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Very well.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
May And I've sort of like I love pop music,
and I love pop sensibilities. I love pop arrangements, you know,
everything from the Carpenters to Guns n' Roses to any
of these bands that we know and love. But I
also like weird music, you know, and and misunderstood music,
and just like what the hell is this? You know,
(42:15):
like I actually enjoy stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So hey, we'll.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
See you know, Hey, so do I And so I
like what I hear from Sextust. So you can get
digital downloads of all of these of sexist the New Hello,
the Mushroom EP and all those past albums or do
I say they when I referred to Sextist, I should
say it like so their past albums on sextus dot com. Eric,
(42:41):
thank you so much for coming back on the podcast today.
Thanks for the laughs, thanks for you know, reminiscing about
Snake Pitt and enjoy your red light and I hope
we get to do this again.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Thank you, Brandon. I've had a great time talking to
you man.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
So that hey, you keep Harrison in line. He is.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
He's almost nap time, so it's probably my job now
to get him because he he has to hold on
to my ear right to fall asleep and I actually
had to get new ear rings because he pulled them out.
So it's so it's with me like he'll he last night,
first time ever bed he's pointing to me bed, telling
me to get into bed. But I was still up
(43:23):
doing work and I probably should take care of my dying,
coughing wife back there as well. So I have a couple. Couple.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Here's my eighteen year old, Oh, this is show ground show.
He wants food always. We call him the Sarge because
at six o'clock every morning he starts yelling, get out
of bed, eat food.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So you know what, let me say this. I told
you a little bit off the air because I dedicated
I had Todd Kerns on a few episodes ago, and
he's a big cat guy as well, and I had
lost It was my my wife's cat, but it became
my cat, and when we started dating, basically he had
passed and I, you know, it was like one that
there was the cat that made me fall in love
(44:06):
with cats, And this was like a month or so ago.
So I dedicated that episode to t Gibi. I'm gonna
dedicate this one to Blackie Blackie Clawless, who just as
I know both of our guys, I got sick at
the same time. Just awful. He was maybe days away
from being nineteen. He went blind in the last few weeks.
(44:29):
But he was just like your dude. He would wake
me up, he would just and he was sleep on
my head every night. I mean he was fifteen. I
met him when he was fifteen, so I didn't know
him that long. But what a profound effect he's had.
I never imagine having a pet sleep on me, and
it was amazing. He might and my son was. It
(44:51):
depends if he was good with the cats or not.
We would tell him soft soft and even soft soft,
and then it hit him. But then he would love them.
He's like ear start touching their ear tail, tail, start
pulling at their tail. No, don't pull anyway. Now I digress.
I'm I'll let everybody know when I get a new KAP,
but we need some time to heal. Anyway, you take care,
(45:15):
You take care of your dude. I'll take care of
my dudes. And that does it for this episode of
Appetite for Distortion. When will you see the next one?
In the words of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see
it thanks to the lame ass security.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
I'm going home.
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