May 9, 2025 • 49 mins
Joining is Jimmy Gnecco, voice and multi-instrumentalist behind the band Ours. Jimmy goes into detail about Ours music and working with Isaac Carpenter, the new drummer for Guns N' Roses. Also, just how close was he to landing the singer slot with Velvet Revolver? Those stories and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and seven. My name is Brando. Welcome to the podcast.
Mister Jimmy Necho. How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm doing well. Thank you. It's nice to talk to
you here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah. Likewise, are you in some sort of bat cave?
I usually if I wasn't doing a podcast, I'm surrounded
by darkness as well. I might be a vampire in
her previous life, So I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Know about you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is the recording studio that I have. I'm pat
it for a long time and uh yeah it's home.
So yeah, lighting is is important for state of mind.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So right on, because if you're watching on on our
YouTube channel, just I like the aesthetic just of one
almost very police like one red light in the back. Sorry,
more more terrible jokes to come. So so so, Jimmy
from from ours, I really appreciate you coming on. And
(01:36):
before I forget it, I got to thank your bandmate
Chris for recommending you. He he reached out, which is
kind of cool. Some people ask how I get my interviews,
and there's a variety of ways, and some people reach
out and say, hey, I know somebody or I'm part
of this band. In this case, he may fit what
(01:58):
you're you're you're wanting to talk about, and to be
honest with you, your your name has kind of always
been I have this long list of like a mental
list of names, So Jimmy, I'm appreciated. So thank you, Chris.
I reached out to you and to talk about New
Hours music and we'll get to because as you can
tell by my posters, it's all what I call it
(02:20):
six degrees of g n R. Bacon. Of course, Velvet
Revolver is part of that, that tree, the six degrees,
the separation thing. We'll get into you hanging out with
the VR guys, but I want to kind of start
with what's going on with you now, because what really
enticed me was because, yeah, you will get into when
you auditioned or however, the whole story for a Velvet Revolver,
(02:44):
but the new Guns and Roses drummer Isaac Carpenter. You've
worked with him recently and he's part of some of
your new music. So I'm kind of eager to talk
about that since Isaac is new, So let's let's get
into it.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, it's a good it's a good link.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I want to be just be really careful because these
are these are people that.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Are very dear to me, So I want.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
To be careful that I don't exploit their situation and
I and I am. I speak about them as clearly
and lovingly as I can, because I can talk to
you all day about Isaac. I've known Isaac for a
really long time. We were both signed with dream Works
(03:25):
going back years ago. And I first heard Isaac and
his band louder Milk, and that that whole band, I
mean every every every each member in the band is
really special and talented.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And I fell in love with their band right away.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And I became, you know, an early kind of cheerleader
for them and just wanting to wanting the best for
them and just you know, anything I could could do
or be a part of what I really wanted that
to be the case.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So yeah, the years went on, and.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You know, difficult keeping a band together, so they kind
of did all different things and they went different ways,
and it came up a few times to have Isaac
come and play. It first came up we were making
the Mercy Record with Rick Rubin, and we were up
(04:27):
in Rick's house up in Laurel Canyon, the Chili Peppers
spot there where they did Blood, Sugar, Sex.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And Magic, and.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
We funny enough, it's just always on the search for
great drummers. And I've had a real specific thing about
drummers as far as the feel, and I've been known
to have a you know, it's not I'm very particular
about drummers.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And at that time.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
On the Mercy album, we had somebody named Michael Jerome
playing drums who both Isaac and I all of louder
Milk and all of ours. We loved this drummer because
he had played in a band called Pleasure Club with
another dear friend of ours, James Hall. And so when
it came up that we're going to make the record
(05:21):
with Rick and he was going to produce it, I
felt like, this is my opportunity to kind of have
anybody that I wanted, and so Rick really wanted Stephen Perkins,
and he came up and played with us one night,
and it was it was pretty amazing right away.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right out at the gate.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
He just played all of the right things and then
but my thought on it was that for better or
for worse.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Whether I was right or wrong, it's debatable, but.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I just felt like I wanted more unknown players to
play on the album. If I was going to have
any special guests, I didn't want it to be a
thing about like an All star kind of you know.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I didn't want to cherry pick the all Stars.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I wanted to find people that hadn't really had a
break yet and that I really believed in. So there
were two people for me on that list, and one
was this guy, Michael Jerome, and Isaac was the other.
And both, like I said, Isaac and I had so
much respect from Michael that when it came up that
he could do it, we were both blown away and
(06:28):
excited by it. And what happened was our final night
of tracking. We we had to get out of the
house because the Chili Peppers were coming in in a day.
And I found this out very last minute, because very
loose the way that things go there sometimes in the
world of Rick, just so many moving parts, you know,
(06:50):
and so right, yeah, right, A few days before it
was the end of February in two thousand and five,
and I got a call, and short month and I
got a call saying that Jimmy, I, you've just about
finished up. The Chili Peppers have to get in there
on the first of March, and I just kind of
went at the shock because we didn't really have all
(07:13):
the drums track yet. So the final night of tracking,
because the drummer also had to leave and go on
a tour, we tracked the final song and opened it
up the next day to work on it and to
listen to what was done, and found that the drum
(07:33):
tracks were gone. They just disappeared, so they the assistant
must must have copied the backup over the main drive.
It was late and must have just gotten confused and
copied the wrong ones them there.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, So it was just blank and it was a
really great performance, so it was it was kind of crushing,
but right away my brain just went to Isaac's right
up over the hill and he said if we need anything,
to give him a call. So gave Mccahen. He came
in right away and crushed it, knocked it out. It
(08:09):
turned out that we had we moved to another studio
out in Burbank, and so we ended up having another
month to track and so we were able to line
it up to have Michael come back and finish his
performance again.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But Isaac's was amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It would have done just you know, just as well,
but I just wanted to keep it consistent. Okay, So
that was the first time we had Isaac come out,
and then since then I had been you know, Isaac's
always on my wish list of you know, somebody to
play with us, and it's just a matter of lining
(08:44):
up our schedules and having the budget to have him
because he deserves to be paid well. So finally we
were able to have him on a few recordings. He
I always wanted him to play with us live for
you yours. But yeah, it looks like that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, that that that might wait, yeah that might be
a bit because yeah, it's it's pretty remarkable to see
the fan reaction because you never know what a new member,
just how well he seems to fit in and fans
thinking like he's a mix of Adler and Sorem and
and me, I'm just jealous of those abs man, that
he always have those abs.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is that is?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That is?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, he's a powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
He's he it's you know, if me as a as
a singer, songwriter and producer and engineer and mix engineer.
You know, there's certain people who see the big picture
and Isaac just he you know, he can, he can
(09:52):
take the reins and do everything just the same himself.
He's he's really the organizer of everything often in his world,
and he's great at it, at bringing everything together. And
so that goes across the board with him being in
great shape, and he's just a really really fine tuned,
amazing talent and he's worked, he's really worked hard for
(10:14):
years and there's nobody better, you know, for me for years.
And we can kind of get into it, but because
it's all connected, going back to to my time spent
with Velvet Revolver and which we can get into, but
(10:36):
for me, it's all connected and I can explain more
if as you ask questions. I don't want to go
on too long about it, but Isaac was always the
perfect person for that seat in my opinion, and Duff.
I think Duff has always loved him as well, and
so I just felt like, wait until everybody hears him.
(10:58):
I'm excited for everybody to hear him because there's something
that happens. And I really liked Frank as well. I
was happy to hear him play because he could swing
and stuff, and that's important with that music. It's important
to me that you know, who am I to say?
But for the gun stuff, it's like I've always felt
for it to be really sleazy and right, it kind
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of needed to be really greasy, and I didn't think
that just a straight up rock drummer was the right
person for that seat. Ever. He needed to have some
some grease in there, and and.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Isaac has it. He just has that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He just has that feel, and he's he's technically able
to do anything that I've ever heard a drummer do,
but he has the restraint to not and he's just
got such a big, fat, consistent pocket that you feel.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Safe when he's playing. You feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's driving the ship and you know that the space
is there that you want.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, I really appreciate that. And then learning about him,
because I don't know now he may be untouchable as
far as you know getting an interview, But I digress.
And I do want to say this because I think
you know you've got my sense of humor or by corniness.
I just told you I'm a dad. I've been saying
dad jokes for years. Now I have a reason. So
(12:20):
I also like Isaac and this is coming from a
non musician. The aesthetics that I see. He's a short
He's a short king like myself right like hell is
he was he five, I'm five six.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
He's tall to me.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, he's tiny. I'm not sure exactly how tall he is,
but he's is a lot of power in that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It makes me feel like I could you know, in
another life, I could have done that. And you know,
I'll say this real quick because there was a picture
of him and Duff, which you know is very tall.
That would be right, So I couldn't help but put
side by side a picture of that and the poster
from Twins, you know, from Schwartz and de Vito and
(13:02):
somebody I'm mad at that. You never know who's going
to get mad at something.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But yeah, it's kind of the same difference, I think
between Duff and myself and then me and then Isaac.
But there's a lot of power and vision and discipline.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
In that body.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He's ten feet tall when he plays, you.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Know, right on. I love that. So let me get
into because of course Isaac's with another band. Let's get
into ours our band, by the way, Is that was
that always the idea? Because I know it's your brainchild,
but do you like referring it to it as hours
like our music, Like it's kind of like you're sharing
it with the audience? Am I overthinking that now?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's? It was? That's pretty right. It was. It was
a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Coming out of the eighties and a lot of the band.
You know, there were these names that you know for
the rock bands there, they were pretty exaggerated names, you know,
and I just I felt that I wanted a name
that was more of like a blank canvas and that
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the music would would really define the name. But the
idea was it was a little bit hippieish. It was
supposed to be that. I felt like the songs that
I had begun to write at that point with that group,
that I was really pulling from everybody's experiences around me,
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and I was. I felt like that I was really
pulling from the human condition, and that was when I
felt like the songs tapped into that that timeless.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Of our struggles, our hopes, our fears that it made
us all connected, and I just felt like there was
this bit of an idea that you know, everybody's story
is is that I knew in my life was kind
of making its way into the songs, and even though
(15:12):
they felt personal, because of the way that I would
take on the emotion, it was actually somebody else's story
I was singing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But it wasn't. It wasn't me. There's been a lot
of misconception.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Through the years about it, about that I had been
really much darker and more depressed than I ever was.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And my first.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Album was written and recorded during one of the most
beautiful times of my life. My children were young, and
it's a it's a really great time, and so I
was very happy. I was calm, centered, I not much anger.
But I was able to pull from all these things
(16:00):
and observe it and write about it, and so it
did make its way into the music. But that's that's
really the idea of ours. It wasn't It wasn't necessarily
so much that of of what it's become, what the
band and the brand has become, which is basically, we're
kind of on an island onto ourselves, for better or
(16:22):
for worse. We never fit into any real genre, you know,
And that's been it's it's it was my goal, but
it's a really difficult it's a difficult road when you
do that because you don't you don't get the masses
all at once from a specific genre that will buy
(16:45):
into or can relate sometimes to what you're doing. So
it's a longer road of kind of okay, well, this
record is maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Ethereal, so we're kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Getting maybe more of the Floyd crowd or the thinkers
or the or the you know, the smokers, and then
this one's a little bit harder hitting, and as we're
getting the rock crowd there and this one's maybe a
little more sophisticated. So the music really varies like that,
so we we we'd never stay in one specific place
other than it's all on arc, you know, the albums
(17:21):
and the set. It's about kind of trying to hit
each emotion, but not trying to not repeat any one
emotion or song, you know, like a song that would
be the same kind of sounds and the same approach.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
We try not to do that repeatedly in a set.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's like, okay, with that one really sounded militant and driving,
then we've already hit our point with that song and
then we move on to the to the next scene,
and we don't we don't keep that up to drive
like ten. You know, we're not and nothing wrong with
these kinds of bands, but we're not like Arraging in
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the Machine, that is, by the way, one of the
most powerful shows I've ever seen in my life. But
we don't deliver that kind of thing song after song
or like an ac DC that delivers that kind of thing.
And I love I loved those those bands and that
kind of music, but for for us, I just always.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Wanted it to be more like just open, that's.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
All, like a journey like life is. You know, you're
not always you know raw, you know, you're not always
metal all the time. You're not always ballady all the time.
So that's why I do enjoy hours music and that
kind of style of for lack of a better term, rock,
but it's it's good for you creative, your creativity and creatively.
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But sometimes you hear from marketing people like I don't
know how to sell that needed to be a specific thing.
But then you're battling your you're kind of hindering your
creativity and you're not you can't be yourself because you
have to be putting this pigeon you know, you're you're
being pigeon held. You're putting this box or this your box.
This is kind of rock or this kind of uh music.
(19:17):
So you know you've been doing your thing for for
quite some time, which is awesome. So what's the latest
that you and and I did invite Chris, uh, Chris
Mercer to be our co host for today, but he
just wanted me. I don't know, he passed. I don't
know if he's he's he's a microphone shy or anything
like that, but uh, I just wanted to get another
shut out. So what are you guys working on now?
(19:37):
Because if you go to your your website or your Facebook,
there's a lot of new music out from late last
year and even recently you know this year Rocket Swad
Glare from from January. So what's the latest from ours? Well,
the most recent can you say, like.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You know, sure, yeah, the most well, the most recent
and kind of some of the last few, because I
put out a lot in the last about a year
or so. And it's three it's two albums and one EP.
One is called New Age Heroin and that that is
a little bit more emotional, kind of at times romantic dark,
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and there's some tenderness there and on that album, and
then it continues a bit. We put this EP out
that would kind of follow it up almost like like
you know, like we're doing an encore live and so
it has a few more songs on it that are
that are kind of connected to that. But that also
then transitioned us into the Rockets Red Glare album, which
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is way more high energy. It doesn't it only dips
down a couple of times, and that, you know, because
like I said, I do a lot of dynamic things.
I've always been really and you know, this is not
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this is not because there's.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Anything wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's just my my own personal goals. I just never
wanted to be all one thing, all rock. As much
as I love rock and roll and that stuff, I
just it just never felt right to me. I felt
like if I did that, I would kind of get bored.
So but I did feel over the last few years
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that it was important for Cohesiveness to put more of
the more the up tempo kind of rock and roll
songs in one collection and not not go down too
much because because I'll do you know, five to six
minute songs just piano, and it'd be really dark.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And emotional.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And I just for Rockets Red Glare, which would be
the most recent one. And you know, it's difficult to
tell what anybody listening to it is what they would
gravitate towards, if any, but the Rockets Red Glare is.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
More of any of course they would.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's the that's the that's the more high energy I
would say urgent one more than I would say a genre.
There's a lot of urgency to it, and there's a.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Lot of energy and urgency to it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So that's and that's been the trick over the years,
just finding ways to make cohesive albums because to go
from there are times when I am really animated with
intensity and I feel it could feel like summoning some
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sort of anger or something, and then you know, then
there's these really beautiful songs so that those emotions.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Are real in me and and they exist, but.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Creatively to to tell that story, it's sometimes it gets
a little manic and disjointed to go from such angst
tow then so much beauty, unless it's really carefully done
and the transition feels natural or you know, so Rockets,
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these last the last few albums that we've put out,
Ballet of the Boxer, New he Heroin, Encore and Rockets
Red Glare all feel very cohesive to me as far
as an overall feeling that's that's tied together. So yeah,
there's a lot, there's a lot of energy on Rockets.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And that's it's a lot of music and I think
that's that's awesome. Just like again coming from the band
that I center this podcast around new music is it's
hard to come by, so it's I love to see
it that it come out and you know, it's it's
awesome again, it's it's a roller coaster. It's not all
one thing, but it's you. Uh, and don't just say
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if any because I'll give a shout out to one
of my listeners Jonathan Wilson that said loved Hours for years.
Great band. So it's uh, you're you're not alone here.
And And also this could be a good segue. Jeremy
Morris when I said you were coming on when I
posted this on my social media said you know that
you were considered. I mean, I woultn't know the whole story.
(24:35):
Maybe this is a good place you can tell us
now for Velvet Revolver that you would have been a
great choice, and I had told you and when when
I first scheduled this. While your name has always been
in my mental list since I worked for iHeart, I
have a Getdy Images account. Obviously, I'm always looking Virginia
and our stuff, so I see a lot your name
pop up a lot when I see cam Freddy. So
(24:56):
how did the because you're from Jersey, right, how did
this kid from Jersey start playing with Slash and Duff
and possibly consider Revelvet Revolver? How did that?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I guess?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
How did that happen? What's the story there?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, it goes back to I've had the through the
through the time of hours, I've had the wonderful blessings
to have so many people reach out to me about
potentially singing for their band, but they were they've all
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been kind of after a great singer mostly passed on,
you know. So through the years, I've been in talks
with in Excess, with one of the guys, Gary Bers
from in Excess, and we very briefly right as I
was starting Mercy, were kind of I started to listen
to ideas that he had and that they were working on,
(25:53):
and that would.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Have been very, very difficult. I don't see.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Here's the thing with Velvet, it goes back. It goes
back in a sense before Whiland, just when they were
looking for people. My name was thrown in the hat.
It's just one of those things, you know. It wasn't
It wasn't that much more developed than that. It was
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just an idea came up for me to do it,
and I was just starting the album. I think at
that time we were kind of getting into it with Rick.
So it was just bad timing. But in excess, I
had gotten asked about Alice and Chain's at one time
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if I would just be interested.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It wasn't that they wanted me.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It was just, you know, a question to see if
I would be into doing it. And then this came up,
and the timing was the timing was just bad for
me to go down by when they were starting to revolver.
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And then some time went by and when they were
having some issues, they reached out again. Their manager reached
out this time. I think it was the same guy
who reached out the first time to see if I
would be interested in auditioning, and he asked me. See,
this is I'm going to give you the I'm going
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to give you my side of the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm sure they have their.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Side of it, and it's not anything bad. But from
my standpoint, what was happening was they had a bunch
of things booked still and they were kind of falling apart,
and they were looking to see if somebody could jump
in to fill the slot, to go out and do it.
(27:58):
And I just thought that for me that was kind
of suicide to do that part in the term, but
career suicide, because.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Here's the thing. I know that vocally I could do it.
I can.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I can sing those ranges and and and then some
whether that's good or bad. My range is technically a
lot higher than Scott's when I would want it to be,
and and the low stuff I could I could very
easily do. So it would make sense that that I
could do it. But it was always my feeling that
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it's a tough crowd. It's a tough growd. And if
you know anybody that's listening right now that that loves guns,
you know they're they know what they want and they're
a tough crowd. And yes, I I know I could
have pulled it off, but to be thrown in like
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that when people were expecting Wiland, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I honestly didn't want to do that. It was a combination.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I didn't want to do that to the fans, and
even though, like I said, I knew I can go
in and sing the songs, I just felt like, that's
not something I want to get involved in that way.
I don't want I never worried about people not liking
my music. It was always I'm going to make the
(29:35):
music that I want to make. I'm going to make
it the best way that I can. And once once
it got there, I was never concerned with any press
the first few records, I never read anything good or bad.
I was not concerned at all. And this all of
a sudden brought up a whole different side of things.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That I.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That I would have to look at because I'm walking
into a situation where you know it's going to be there, yeah, yeah,
and I want to do the right thing. I'd want
to do the right thing by the fans. I didn't
want to do the right thing by the band, and
it was going to be one of those really difficult
(30:15):
things to pull off that way. So I just felt like,
I don't want to and this is this is a
great part of the story, and this is what I
was saying. I don't want to just come in. And no,
it wasn't disrespect to Scott. It was actually respect to him.
I don't want to just come in and try to
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do karaoke. I don't think it's going to work, even
though I could sing the songs. It's going to let
people down and they're going to really hate me. And
I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to get involved
in any of that. I have my own thing going
and I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to trying
to be a rock star like that for the sake
(30:59):
of just doing it. It's it didn't So I know
that many other people would be like, are you crazy?
Why wouldn't you right away jump at it? And it
still doesn't mean that they would have liked it if
I did. But why I wasn't aggressively jumping at it
because I just thought it through a little bit more
than wow, this is a great opportunity. It was like,
(31:23):
is it really a great opportunity? So for any of us?
And so I just I kind of let it go
cold a bit, and the manager at the time, I
think I saw the email.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I think it was like, you know, Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You're a great artist, great voice, but to say that
you wouldn't want to jump in and just sing these songs.
They have this hit and this hit that's kind of
like spitting in people's faces. And I felt like, oh wow,
that's That's not how I meant that at all. It
was the opposite. So but I just let it go.
(32:04):
And then some more time went by, and not too
much more time, but I still wanted to just get
into a room with them. It was it was my
hope to get into a room with the band and
Isaac Carpenter or Michael Jerome. I wanted and it's no
(32:27):
disrespect to anyone else, it's just I wanted to do
something new, and I was so my thought was we're
not We're not up against like these Vell Revour songs.
I couldn't let go of how great appetite for destruction is.
(32:48):
I couldn't let it go in my mind, and I
just felt like, if we're going to do anything, so
here's here's what happened. On that same email, I said,
I don't know if I can do this and just
jump in blah blah blah, where's Izzy Straddlin? That's exactly
(33:09):
That was the exactly email.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Maybe if he joined the band.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I well that that was the thing, because I felt like,
if we're going to do this, don't I don't want
to be And again, no disrespect, but I just felt like,
I'm not trying to It's not even compete because music
(33:34):
shouldn't be a competition, but it needs to be as
great as Appetite for Destruction if we're going to do something.
So I started to put the pieces together, and I'm
just looking at how much I is he wrote, and
how much he was a part of that. I know
I write a ton, but I still wasn't. I wasn't
coming with an ego to say, oh yeah, I can
(33:55):
write a bunch with you and I can do it.
I just wanted to make sure that we were going
to have the same shot at being as great as
Appetite for Destruction Star. I felt like, there's one more
piece there. So if we get Iasy and then we
get Isaac or Michael who can can really swing and
(34:18):
you know, really greasy, then we'll kind of be back
on track for a rock and roll band. I didn't
want to be a rock band with them. I wanted
to be like a real rock and roll band. And
I just felt like we needed Isaac or Michael and
Izzy or One other idea I had was to bring
another dear friend of mine, James hall and who's a
(34:39):
great singer and an amazing songwriter, to bring him in
as well, and maybe we would have two singers, but
the song level would be be elevated a lot. So
that's what I was hoping for. It wasn't like I said.
I wasn't looking at it like, OK, this is a
great opportunity for me to go up and do the
moves and be a rock star. It's it was, can
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we write amazing songs? Can we Can we all be
hungry enough to remember what what it's like to need
to write great songs? Can we find that place together?
And so that was my first thought. It kind of
went cold, and then we came together again in New
(35:22):
York City for for a benefit my these dear friends
of mine who have an organization called Road Recovery.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
There then my managers going back for years and like
family to me. They they were doing they do were
doing these shows in New York and and I'm family,
so I was on the shows and it kind of
came up, I think the first the first one with
(35:57):
Tom Morello and Perry was on it, and and Jerry
Cantrell and you know the amazing Wayne Kramer, who we
all loved very much. Well course, yeah, they were all
on it, and Carl had Carl Receivo had asked me
(36:18):
to do if I would jump up with them on
Paradise City, and I was kind of like, that's not
really in my my zone, like I can do something
a little more angry.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I'm not sure if I can do Paradise City.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But I jumped up and so that was the first time,
and I was just kind of sharing a microphone with
Perry Farrell Ettie Farrell and we were and we were
just kind of doing you know, backgrounds. It was, you know,
we're just kind of gang vocals there. But then the
next road recovery event came around and it came up again.
They were asking if I would do a few songs
(36:52):
with them, and so I kind of felt like, oh, yeah,
this is this is the time. Because I didn't let
it go as much as I didn't feel like jumping
in was a great idea. I didn't let go of
the idea because I did think that together.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
That that whole group, Dave Duff, Slash, like, I really
liked the way that they sounded, and I thought that
we could do something together. So I was still holding
on to it in the back of my mind. And
so they asked me if I would do do the songs,
(37:33):
and I said definitely, and I went to rehearsal the
night before and then they never asked me to do
any songs with them, and I felt like, hmm, that's
that's kind of sucks. And maybe I was going to
do Hey Joe with Slash, and I said, sure, I'll
(37:54):
do that, but we were talking about doing.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Is it Slither Slipper?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Sure, that's what's the velvet song? Yea, I'm just slither slither. Yeah. Yeah,
that gun does it now?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I heard them do that at one point and and
it's so easy, and.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So it didn't really pan out.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
So I said, okay, well I won't learn them then exactly,
and then during sound check.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
It was just awesome, like.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I you know, I think I maybe did Hey Joe
or or I don't even know if I was. I
don't even know, tell you the truth, if we were going,
if they had me doing it. But when I ran
into them and soundcheck, I said, hey, you know, I
kind of know those songs if you guys want to
do them, And then Duff was kind of wrangling everybody
and saying, hey, he knows them if you want to
(38:54):
do them. Because because Duff I think was pulling for.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Me on a few occasions with it.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And yes, I think if you, if you I could
be speaking at a out of school here, but if
you want, you know the.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Most amount of dirt that I can give.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You, I don't want dirt, and I'm not the kind
of person I appreciate. The story I guess want to.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Is that I don't think that Matt liked me okay
early on, and I think that Duff was pulling for
me before that. I don't think that I don't think
Matt liked me. So that's, you know, maybe why they
weren't enthusiastic about it together. And then so at that
point Duff was like and it wasn't personal, it wasn't
(39:44):
anything personal about Matt. I just think that he didn't
know that I could sing the way that I did.
I think he thought that I was a little bit
more like something else. So so then yeah, Duff was
really pulling for it, and luckily he pulled it together
that night, convinced everybody for me to jump in, and
I did it. And I was cramming right before the show,
(40:06):
just like learning all the lyrics, and luckily they did
have a teleprompter, so it's just kind of like, Okay,
we'll make sure I know the arrangements. It's going to
be there in case I need it. I did it
in sound check with a teleprompter and it seemed to work.
And yeah, so that was basically it. And then after
that point I was kind of pushing them a tiny
(40:31):
bit to say we're gonna do this. I think we
can do this. But I think at that point it
was already too fractured.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, so it.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Wasn't it wasn't necessarily the stories out there maybe like
that I'd been giving these opportunities and I said no
to them. It's not that simple. It's not I don't
want to. Yeah, I don't want to ever come across
disrespectful to them like that where they wanted me to
do it, and I was, you know, felt I was
too good for it.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
It was nothing at all like that.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I just wanted it to be great and just getting
everybody in the same mindset, you know, at the same
time everybody's lives and Slash had a lot going on
with his solo stuff. It was really doing well for
him and that particular vehicle for him. It felt positive
and he was able to do these songs that he
(41:23):
hadn't been able to do in a long time because
Miles can really crush them.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
So I think he was happy doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And you know, ultimately what I felt in talking to them, honestly,
I don't I maybe even written it in an email
to them, saying, are you guys sure you can't work
it out with Axel?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I think that was my last email.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'm saying that as like a fan too, I could
tell you yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, totally, because I just I wanted them back together.
If anything, I just wanted to be great. I wanted
it to be great as much as everybody else I
love them wanted it to be And so that's as
far as my history with them, that's the bottom line
is that I just wanted it to be great. I
didn't want to be a joke, So that's cool.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I really appreciate that story. I wasn't aware of it.
I mean, like again, on the surface of you being considered,
that's nothing, you know, compared and I completely understand it.
It's kind of a cool tie to the last episode
that I did previous with Austin John Winkler from He
was the former frontman from Hinder. He was also considered
(42:37):
for it, and he said he was sanging a few
songs with them, but he said that his heart probably
wasn't in it as much as it should have been
because it was a certain creativity and time in his
life and it just didn't work out. He's like, I
love those guys. It was what a moment and an
opportunity that it was, but you know what, it wasn't right.
It wasn't right. And it's this sounds you know, obviously
(42:59):
not the same story, but it's kind of a similar
theme that it wasn't right. But I think it's fun
for fans that now I can kind of have this.
It's fun. It's it's kind of like a fantasy sports visual,
you know. I was mentally picturing, oh, what if this
actually happened. What if you know, Jimmy led this kind
of pseudo guns and Roses and you know, you know, incarnation,
(43:20):
this new kind of band. That's that's just fun to
think about. But you know, maybe if if the multiverse
theory is right, it's happening somewhere.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yes, I really liked Hinder.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I don't know that he was that he's saying with
them as well and tried also, my friend, I love
the oly Royston.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
You know, yes, I don't know he has not been
on the show, but but.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, he also went and sang with them a bit.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
It's these things.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I and I exchanged some great stories about it when
we could. We toured together just acoustically. We each played
acoustically and we did a tour and we were exchanging
stories about it.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
So it would have been really I can only imagine.
I mean, that's kind of it's a badge of honor.
It's like a it's a small group of those who
tried out for Velvet Revolver. I think it is very cool.
I spoke to a few years ago Mina. Now Keith Caputo,
Uh send it in an audition tape and you guess
you never know, but uh, it's it's it's again. It's
(44:25):
just a cool thing to talk about and you're coming
from a fan and wanting to work with these people.
But again, uh, you know other timeline, it's we are
where we are now.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
So well as long as we can make it great.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That's hey man, that's I love that making you great
in the vision. So uh again, we spoke about what
the current, So what's the best way I think, because
I I I guess if I wanted to keep this
as far as my advice, if people want to google hours,
it might be better to google Jimmy Jimmy neck. Oh,
because just the word hours or hours music. I don't
(45:04):
know if you hear Baby Brownstone back there? Did you
hear him scream?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Just now?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'm just curious. Really, that's that's great. There was a toddler.
He's just turned two, and he's like way more vocal,
repeating things, and he's playing with one of my brothers
back there, and I'm just knocking blocks over. I'm like,
I don't know what's being picked up by the microphone,
so nothing. Oh man, I love that. So I'm hoping
next time, if we get to do this again, he'll
(45:29):
be my little co host, I'll hang out with me
and I'll ask you some questions. Pretty cool, Uh, So
I appreciate you taking the time because you're off to Europe.
So what's what's the plan now? Where can we what's
next for Jimmy? And now that we have this music
out available, it's obviously you're you're touring France to turning
the UK. You know, we'll tell us about it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm going to do some So it's just acoustically, it's
it's difficult to keep the band, the full band going,
you know, especially into Europe and stuff. It's difficult right now.
So I'm going to head over on my own, play
a bunch of shows, get our music out to the
people over there. And yeah, I just try to spread
(46:16):
the music as much as I can.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
My labels never put.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
The Hours albums out overseas, which makes no sense to me.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
So I decided a few years ago to just.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
As again, as challenging as it might be, without any
sort of support or anything. I decided that I'm going
to just go do it on my own and if
I get them at a time.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Then that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
So I'm going to do that first, and I've also
been singing the one thing that I have said yes
to of all the bands who've asked me to sing
with them, because it made the most sense. I'm singing
with this project called Humanist from the UK again and
(47:00):
Rob Marshall It's his It's his Baby and him and
the drummer Scott. I've been doing it for a long
time and basically he has on his albums he has
all different singers sing and he's had like Mark Land
again and Dave Gahan and at Harcourt, Ron Sexsmith, a
(47:21):
lot of great singers.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
On both albums.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
And just last year they were heading out to tour
with Depeche Mode and they asked me if I would
join them and come sing with them. So I jumped
in and I've been having a blast doing it. It's
interesting because it's it's not like, you know, I don't
have to go up there and execute one singer's stuff.
(47:48):
It's a it's a cool challenge because I have to
take all these different singers and bring it into a
space and it ends up becoming our own thing as
a result. And I've been having a good time doing that.
So I'll go over there and do a run of
dates with them through also through like Germany and France
and in the UK, and then I'll come back do
(48:11):
a run through the States solo and then pick up.
Humanist is going to pick up with Black Rebel Motorcycle
Club and do a run of dates opening for them
in October, which is really awesome.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Good stuff. So yeah, if you want to go to
hours dot net, you can see the dates in France
and Italy and the UK and I look forward to
seeing the dates. And if you're around the city or
Long Islands, my guy, I don't want to get his
detention now because he's being good. He's got the long hair,
I got it. He's got to be my concert buddy,
(48:46):
so I got to start taking him the show. So
I have just seen you out out and about Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
That'd be great. Thanks for taking the time to talk
to me, Branda.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Hey, no, I appreciate you taking the time. I know
you got a flight, hopefully not in early white. I
hope I didn't prevent you from getting some.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Beauty sleeping by good.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Try not to ever do those if I can help it. Not.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
My wife, whenever we go, we got to get there
early and I hate it, but whatever, that's another story
for another time, So thank you, thank you, Jimmy Uh.
That does it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion.
When will you see the next one? In the words
of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as
soon as the word, but you'll see it. Thanks to
(49:34):
the lame ass security, I'm going home.
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and seven. My name is Brando. Welcome to the podcast.
Mister Jimmy Necho. How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm doing well. Thank you. It's nice to talk to
you here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah. Likewise, are you in some sort of bat cave?
I usually if I wasn't doing a podcast, I'm surrounded
by darkness as well. I might be a vampire in
her previous life, So I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Know about you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is the recording studio that I have. I'm pat
it for a long time and uh yeah it's home.
So yeah, lighting is is important for state of mind.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So right on, because if you're watching on on our
YouTube channel, just I like the aesthetic just of one
almost very police like one red light in the back. Sorry,
more more terrible jokes to come. So so so, Jimmy
from from ours, I really appreciate you coming on. And
(01:36):
before I forget it, I got to thank your bandmate
Chris for recommending you. He he reached out, which is
kind of cool. Some people ask how I get my interviews,
and there's a variety of ways, and some people reach
out and say, hey, I know somebody or I'm part
of this band. In this case, he may fit what
(01:58):
you're you're you're wanting to talk about, and to be
honest with you, your your name has kind of always
been I have this long list of like a mental
list of names, So Jimmy, I'm appreciated. So thank you, Chris.
I reached out to you and to talk about New
Hours music and we'll get to because as you can
tell by my posters, it's all what I call it
(02:20):
six degrees of g n R. Bacon. Of course, Velvet
Revolver is part of that, that tree, the six degrees,
the separation thing. We'll get into you hanging out with
the VR guys, but I want to kind of start
with what's going on with you now, because what really
enticed me was because, yeah, you will get into when
you auditioned or however, the whole story for a Velvet Revolver,
(02:44):
but the new Guns and Roses drummer Isaac Carpenter. You've
worked with him recently and he's part of some of
your new music. So I'm kind of eager to talk
about that since Isaac is new, So let's let's get
into it.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, it's a good it's a good link.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I want to be just be really careful because these
are these are people that.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Are very dear to me, So I want.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
To be careful that I don't exploit their situation and
I and I am. I speak about them as clearly
and lovingly as I can, because I can talk to
you all day about Isaac. I've known Isaac for a
really long time. We were both signed with dream Works
(03:25):
going back years ago. And I first heard Isaac and
his band louder Milk, and that that whole band, I
mean every every every each member in the band is
really special and talented.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And I fell in love with their band right away.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And I became, you know, an early kind of cheerleader
for them and just wanting to wanting the best for
them and just you know, anything I could could do
or be a part of what I really wanted that
to be the case.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So yeah, the years went on, and.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You know, difficult keeping a band together, so they kind
of did all different things and they went different ways,
and it came up a few times to have Isaac
come and play. It first came up we were making
the Mercy Record with Rick Rubin, and we were up
(04:27):
in Rick's house up in Laurel Canyon, the Chili Peppers
spot there where they did Blood, Sugar, Sex.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And Magic, and.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
We funny enough, it's just always on the search for
great drummers. And I've had a real specific thing about
drummers as far as the feel, and I've been known
to have a you know, it's not I'm very particular
about drummers.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And at that time.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
On the Mercy album, we had somebody named Michael Jerome
playing drums who both Isaac and I all of louder
Milk and all of ours. We loved this drummer because
he had played in a band called Pleasure Club with
another dear friend of ours, James Hall. And so when
it came up that we're going to make the record
(05:21):
with Rick and he was going to produce it, I
felt like, this is my opportunity to kind of have
anybody that I wanted, and so Rick really wanted Stephen Perkins,
and he came up and played with us one night,
and it was it was pretty amazing right away.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right out at the gate.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
He just played all of the right things and then
but my thought on it was that for better or
for worse.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Whether I was right or wrong, it's debatable, but.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I just felt like I wanted more unknown players to
play on the album. If I was going to have
any special guests, I didn't want it to be a
thing about like an All star kind of you know.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I didn't want to cherry pick the all Stars.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I wanted to find people that hadn't really had a
break yet and that I really believed in. So there
were two people for me on that list, and one
was this guy, Michael Jerome, and Isaac was the other.
And both, like I said, Isaac and I had so
much respect from Michael that when it came up that
he could do it, we were both blown away and
(06:28):
excited by it. And what happened was our final night
of tracking. We we had to get out of the
house because the Chili Peppers were coming in in a day.
And I found this out very last minute, because very
loose the way that things go there sometimes in the
world of Rick, just so many moving parts, you know,
(06:50):
and so right, yeah, right, A few days before it
was the end of February in two thousand and five,
and I got a call, and short month and I
got a call saying that Jimmy, I, you've just about
finished up. The Chili Peppers have to get in there
on the first of March, and I just kind of
went at the shock because we didn't really have all
(07:13):
the drums track yet. So the final night of tracking,
because the drummer also had to leave and go on
a tour, we tracked the final song and opened it
up the next day to work on it and to
listen to what was done, and found that the drum
(07:33):
tracks were gone. They just disappeared, so they the assistant
must must have copied the backup over the main drive.
It was late and must have just gotten confused and
copied the wrong ones them there.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, So it was just blank and it was a
really great performance, so it was it was kind of crushing,
but right away my brain just went to Isaac's right
up over the hill and he said if we need anything,
to give him a call. So gave Mccahen. He came
in right away and crushed it, knocked it out. It
(08:09):
turned out that we had we moved to another studio
out in Burbank, and so we ended up having another
month to track and so we were able to line
it up to have Michael come back and finish his
performance again.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But Isaac's was amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It would have done just you know, just as well,
but I just wanted to keep it consistent. Okay, So
that was the first time we had Isaac come out,
and then since then I had been you know, Isaac's
always on my wish list of you know, somebody to
play with us, and it's just a matter of lining
(08:44):
up our schedules and having the budget to have him
because he deserves to be paid well. So finally we
were able to have him on a few recordings. He
I always wanted him to play with us live for
you yours. But yeah, it looks like that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, that that that might wait, yeah that might be
a bit because yeah, it's it's pretty remarkable to see
the fan reaction because you never know what a new member,
just how well he seems to fit in and fans
thinking like he's a mix of Adler and Sorem and
and me, I'm just jealous of those abs man, that
he always have those abs.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is that is?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That is?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, he's a powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
He's he it's you know, if me as a as
a singer, songwriter and producer and engineer and mix engineer.
You know, there's certain people who see the big picture
and Isaac just he you know, he can, he can
(09:52):
take the reins and do everything just the same himself.
He's he's really the organizer of everything often in his world,
and he's great at it, at bringing everything together. And
so that goes across the board with him being in
great shape, and he's just a really really fine tuned,
amazing talent and he's worked, he's really worked hard for
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years and there's nobody better, you know, for me for years.
And we can kind of get into it, but because
it's all connected, going back to to my time spent
with Velvet Revolver and which we can get into, but
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for me, it's all connected and I can explain more
if as you ask questions. I don't want to go
on too long about it, but Isaac was always the
perfect person for that seat in my opinion, and Duff.
I think Duff has always loved him as well, and
so I just felt like, wait until everybody hears him.
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I'm excited for everybody to hear him because there's something
that happens. And I really liked Frank as well. I
was happy to hear him play because he could swing
and stuff, and that's important with that music. It's important
to me that you know, who am I to say?
But for the gun stuff, it's like I've always felt
for it to be really sleazy and right, it kind
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of needed to be really greasy, and I didn't think
that just a straight up rock drummer was the right
person for that seat. Ever. He needed to have some
some grease in there, and and.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Isaac has it. He just has that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He just has that feel, and he's he's technically able
to do anything that I've ever heard a drummer do,
but he has the restraint to not and he's just
got such a big, fat, consistent pocket that you feel.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Safe when he's playing. You feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's driving the ship and you know that the space
is there that you want.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, I really appreciate that. And then learning about him,
because I don't know now he may be untouchable as
far as you know getting an interview, But I digress.
And I do want to say this because I think
you know you've got my sense of humor or by corniness.
I just told you I'm a dad. I've been saying
dad jokes for years. Now I have a reason. So
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I also like Isaac and this is coming from a
non musician. The aesthetics that I see. He's a short
He's a short king like myself right like hell is
he was he five, I'm five six.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
He's tall to me.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, he's tiny. I'm not sure exactly how tall he is,
but he's is a lot of power in that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It makes me feel like I could you know, in
another life, I could have done that. And you know,
I'll say this real quick because there was a picture
of him and Duff, which you know is very tall.
That would be right, So I couldn't help but put
side by side a picture of that and the poster
from Twins, you know, from Schwartz and de Vito and
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somebody I'm mad at that. You never know who's going
to get mad at something.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But yeah, it's kind of the same difference, I think
between Duff and myself and then me and then Isaac.
But there's a lot of power and vision and discipline.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
In that body.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He's ten feet tall when he plays, you.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Know, right on. I love that. So let me get
into because of course Isaac's with another band. Let's get
into ours our band, by the way, Is that was
that always the idea? Because I know it's your brainchild,
but do you like referring it to it as hours
like our music, Like it's kind of like you're sharing
it with the audience? Am I overthinking that now?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's? It was? That's pretty right. It was. It was
a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Coming out of the eighties and a lot of the band.
You know, there were these names that you know for
the rock bands there, they were pretty exaggerated names, you know,
and I just I felt that I wanted a name
that was more of like a blank canvas and that
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the music would would really define the name. But the
idea was it was a little bit hippieish. It was
supposed to be that. I felt like the songs that
I had begun to write at that point with that group,
that I was really pulling from everybody's experiences around me,
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and I was. I felt like that I was really
pulling from the human condition, and that was when I
felt like the songs tapped into that that timeless.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Of our struggles, our hopes, our fears that it made
us all connected, and I just felt like there was
this bit of an idea that you know, everybody's story
is is that I knew in my life was kind
of making its way into the songs, and even though
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they felt personal, because of the way that I would
take on the emotion, it was actually somebody else's story
I was singing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But it wasn't. It wasn't me. There's been a lot
of misconception.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Through the years about it, about that I had been
really much darker and more depressed than I ever was.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And my first.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Album was written and recorded during one of the most
beautiful times of my life. My children were young, and
it's a it's a really great time, and so I
was very happy. I was calm, centered, I not much anger.
But I was able to pull from all these things
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and observe it and write about it, and so it
did make its way into the music. But that's that's
really the idea of ours. It wasn't It wasn't necessarily
so much that of of what it's become, what the
band and the brand has become, which is basically, we're
kind of on an island onto ourselves, for better or
(16:22):
for worse. We never fit into any real genre, you know,
And that's been it's it's it was my goal, but
it's a really difficult it's a difficult road when you
do that because you don't you don't get the masses
all at once from a specific genre that will buy
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into or can relate sometimes to what you're doing. So
it's a longer road of kind of okay, well, this
record is maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Ethereal, so we're kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Getting maybe more of the Floyd crowd or the thinkers
or the or the you know, the smokers, and then
this one's a little bit harder hitting, and as we're
getting the rock crowd there and this one's maybe a
little more sophisticated. So the music really varies like that,
so we we we'd never stay in one specific place
other than it's all on arc, you know, the albums
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and the set. It's about kind of trying to hit
each emotion, but not trying to not repeat any one
emotion or song, you know, like a song that would
be the same kind of sounds and the same approach.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
We try not to do that repeatedly in a set.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's like, okay, with that one really sounded militant and driving,
then we've already hit our point with that song and
then we move on to the to the next scene,
and we don't we don't keep that up to drive
like ten. You know, we're not and nothing wrong with
these kinds of bands, but we're not like Arraging in
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the Machine, that is, by the way, one of the
most powerful shows I've ever seen in my life. But
we don't deliver that kind of thing song after song
or like an ac DC that delivers that kind of thing.
And I love I loved those those bands and that
kind of music, but for for us, I just always.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Wanted it to be more like just open, that's.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
All, like a journey like life is. You know, you're
not always you know raw, you know, you're not always
metal all the time. You're not always ballady all the time.
So that's why I do enjoy hours music and that
kind of style of for lack of a better term, rock,
but it's it's good for you creative, your creativity and creatively.
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But sometimes you hear from marketing people like I don't
know how to sell that needed to be a specific thing.
But then you're battling your you're kind of hindering your
creativity and you're not you can't be yourself because you
have to be putting this pigeon you know, you're you're
being pigeon held. You're putting this box or this your box.
This is kind of rock or this kind of uh music.
(19:17):
So you know you've been doing your thing for for
quite some time, which is awesome. So what's the latest
that you and and I did invite Chris, uh, Chris
Mercer to be our co host for today, but he
just wanted me. I don't know, he passed. I don't
know if he's he's he's a microphone shy or anything
like that, but uh, I just wanted to get another
shut out. So what are you guys working on now?
(19:37):
Because if you go to your your website or your Facebook,
there's a lot of new music out from late last
year and even recently you know this year Rocket Swad
Glare from from January. So what's the latest from ours? Well,
the most recent can you say, like.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You know, sure, yeah, the most well, the most recent
and kind of some of the last few, because I
put out a lot in the last about a year
or so. And it's three it's two albums and one EP.
One is called New Age Heroin and that that is
a little bit more emotional, kind of at times romantic dark,
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and there's some tenderness there and on that album, and
then it continues a bit. We put this EP out
that would kind of follow it up almost like like
you know, like we're doing an encore live and so
it has a few more songs on it that are
that are kind of connected to that. But that also
then transitioned us into the Rockets Red Glare album, which
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is way more high energy. It doesn't it only dips
down a couple of times, and that, you know, because
like I said, I do a lot of dynamic things.
I've always been really and you know, this is not
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this is not because there's.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Anything wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's just my my own personal goals. I just never
wanted to be all one thing, all rock. As much
as I love rock and roll and that stuff, I
just it just never felt right to me. I felt
like if I did that, I would kind of get bored.
So but I did feel over the last few years
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that it was important for Cohesiveness to put more of
the more the up tempo kind of rock and roll
songs in one collection and not not go down too
much because because I'll do you know, five to six
minute songs just piano, and it'd be really dark.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And emotional.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And I just for Rockets Red Glare, which would be
the most recent one. And you know, it's difficult to
tell what anybody listening to it is what they would
gravitate towards, if any, but the Rockets Red Glare is.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
More of any of course they would.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's the that's the that's the more high energy I
would say urgent one more than I would say a genre.
There's a lot of urgency to it, and there's a.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Lot of energy and urgency to it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So that's and that's been the trick over the years,
just finding ways to make cohesive albums because to go
from there are times when I am really animated with
intensity and I feel it could feel like summoning some
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sort of anger or something, and then you know, then
there's these really beautiful songs so that those emotions.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Are real in me and and they exist, but.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Creatively to to tell that story, it's sometimes it gets
a little manic and disjointed to go from such angst
tow then so much beauty, unless it's really carefully done
and the transition feels natural or you know, so Rockets,
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these last the last few albums that we've put out,
Ballet of the Boxer, New he Heroin, Encore and Rockets
Red Glare all feel very cohesive to me as far
as an overall feeling that's that's tied together. So yeah,
there's a lot, there's a lot of energy on Rockets.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And that's it's a lot of music and I think
that's that's awesome. Just like again coming from the band
that I center this podcast around new music is it's
hard to come by, so it's I love to see
it that it come out and you know, it's it's
awesome again, it's it's a roller coaster. It's not all
one thing, but it's you. Uh, and don't just say
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if any because I'll give a shout out to one
of my listeners Jonathan Wilson that said loved Hours for years.
Great band. So it's uh, you're you're not alone here.
And And also this could be a good segue. Jeremy
Morris when I said you were coming on when I
posted this on my social media said you know that
you were considered. I mean, I woultn't know the whole story.
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Maybe this is a good place you can tell us
now for Velvet Revolver that you would have been a
great choice, and I had told you and when when
I first scheduled this. While your name has always been
in my mental list since I worked for iHeart, I
have a Getdy Images account. Obviously, I'm always looking Virginia
and our stuff, so I see a lot your name
pop up a lot when I see cam Freddy. So
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how did the because you're from Jersey, right, how did
this kid from Jersey start playing with Slash and Duff
and possibly consider Revelvet Revolver? How did that?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I guess?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
How did that happen? What's the story there?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, it goes back to I've had the through the
through the time of hours, I've had the wonderful blessings
to have so many people reach out to me about
potentially singing for their band, but they were they've all
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been kind of after a great singer mostly passed on,
you know. So through the years, I've been in talks
with in Excess, with one of the guys, Gary Bers
from in Excess, and we very briefly right as I
was starting Mercy, were kind of I started to listen
to ideas that he had and that they were working on,
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and that would.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Have been very, very difficult. I don't see.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Here's the thing with Velvet, it goes back. It goes
back in a sense before Whiland, just when they were
looking for people. My name was thrown in the hat.
It's just one of those things, you know. It wasn't
It wasn't that much more developed than that. It was
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just an idea came up for me to do it,
and I was just starting the album. I think at
that time we were kind of getting into it with Rick.
So it was just bad timing. But in excess, I
had gotten asked about Alice and Chain's at one time
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if I would just be interested.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It wasn't that they wanted me.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It was just, you know, a question to see if
I would be into doing it. And then this came up,
and the timing was the timing was just bad for
me to go down by when they were starting to revolver.
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And then some time went by and when they were
having some issues, they reached out again. Their manager reached
out this time. I think it was the same guy
who reached out the first time to see if I
would be interested in auditioning, and he asked me. See,
this is I'm going to give you the I'm going
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to give you my side of the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm sure they have their.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Side of it, and it's not anything bad. But from
my standpoint, what was happening was they had a bunch
of things booked still and they were kind of falling apart,
and they were looking to see if somebody could jump
in to fill the slot, to go out and do it.
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And I just thought that for me that was kind
of suicide to do that part in the term, but
career suicide, because.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Here's the thing. I know that vocally I could do it.
I can.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I can sing those ranges and and and then some
whether that's good or bad. My range is technically a
lot higher than Scott's when I would want it to be,
and and the low stuff I could I could very
easily do. So it would make sense that that I
could do it. But it was always my feeling that
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it's a tough crowd. It's a tough growd. And if
you know anybody that's listening right now that that loves guns,
you know they're they know what they want and they're
a tough crowd. And yes, I I know I could
have pulled it off, but to be thrown in like
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that when people were expecting Wiland, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I honestly didn't want to do that. It was a combination.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I didn't want to do that to the fans, and
even though, like I said, I knew I can go
in and sing the songs, I just felt like, that's
not something I want to get involved in that way.
I don't want I never worried about people not liking
my music. It was always I'm going to make the
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music that I want to make. I'm going to make
it the best way that I can. And once once
it got there, I was never concerned with any press
the first few records, I never read anything good or bad.
I was not concerned at all. And this all of
a sudden brought up a whole different side of things.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That I.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That I would have to look at because I'm walking
into a situation where you know it's going to be there, yeah, yeah,
and I want to do the right thing. I'd want
to do the right thing by the fans. I didn't
want to do the right thing by the band, and
it was going to be one of those really difficult
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things to pull off that way. So I just felt like,
I don't want to and this is this is a
great part of the story, and this is what I
was saying. I don't want to just come in. And no,
it wasn't disrespect to Scott. It was actually respect to him.
I don't want to just come in and try to
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do karaoke. I don't think it's going to work, even
though I could sing the songs. It's going to let
people down and they're going to really hate me. And
I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to get involved
in any of that. I have my own thing going
and I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to trying
to be a rock star like that for the sake
(30:59):
of just doing it. It's it didn't So I know
that many other people would be like, are you crazy?
Why wouldn't you right away jump at it? And it
still doesn't mean that they would have liked it if
I did. But why I wasn't aggressively jumping at it
because I just thought it through a little bit more
than wow, this is a great opportunity. It was like,
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is it really a great opportunity? So for any of us?
And so I just I kind of let it go
cold a bit, and the manager at the time, I
think I saw the email.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I think it was like, you know, Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You're a great artist, great voice, but to say that
you wouldn't want to jump in and just sing these songs.
They have this hit and this hit that's kind of
like spitting in people's faces. And I felt like, oh wow,
that's That's not how I meant that at all. It
was the opposite. So but I just let it go.
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And then some more time went by, and not too
much more time, but I still wanted to just get
into a room with them. It was it was my
hope to get into a room with the band and
Isaac Carpenter or Michael Jerome. I wanted and it's no
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disrespect to anyone else, it's just I wanted to do
something new, and I was so my thought was we're
not We're not up against like these Vell Revour songs.
I couldn't let go of how great appetite for destruction is.
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I couldn't let it go in my mind, and I
just felt like, if we're going to do anything, so
here's here's what happened. On that same email, I said,
I don't know if I can do this and just
jump in blah blah blah, where's Izzy Straddlin? That's exactly
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That was the exactly email.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Maybe if he joined the band.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I well that that was the thing, because I felt like,
if we're going to do this, don't I don't want
to be And again, no disrespect, but I just felt like,
I'm not trying to It's not even compete because music
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shouldn't be a competition, but it needs to be as
great as Appetite for Destruction if we're going to do something.
So I started to put the pieces together, and I'm
just looking at how much I is he wrote, and
how much he was a part of that. I know
I write a ton, but I still wasn't. I wasn't
coming with an ego to say, oh yeah, I can
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write a bunch with you and I can do it.
I just wanted to make sure that we were going
to have the same shot at being as great as
Appetite for Destruction Star. I felt like, there's one more
piece there. So if we get Iasy and then we
get Isaac or Michael who can can really swing and
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you know, really greasy, then we'll kind of be back
on track for a rock and roll band. I didn't
want to be a rock band with them. I wanted
to be like a real rock and roll band. And
I just felt like we needed Isaac or Michael and
Izzy or One other idea I had was to bring
another dear friend of mine, James hall and who's a
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great singer and an amazing songwriter, to bring him in
as well, and maybe we would have two singers, but
the song level would be be elevated a lot. So
that's what I was hoping for. It wasn't like I said.
I wasn't looking at it like, OK, this is a
great opportunity for me to go up and do the
moves and be a rock star. It's it was, can
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we write amazing songs? Can we Can we all be
hungry enough to remember what what it's like to need
to write great songs? Can we find that place together?
And so that was my first thought. It kind of
went cold, and then we came together again in New
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York City for for a benefit my these dear friends
of mine who have an organization called Road Recovery.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
There then my managers going back for years and like
family to me. They they were doing they do were
doing these shows in New York and and I'm family,
so I was on the shows and it kind of
came up, I think the first the first one with
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Tom Morello and Perry was on it, and and Jerry
Cantrell and you know the amazing Wayne Kramer, who we
all loved very much. Well course, yeah, they were all
on it, and Carl had Carl Receivo had asked me
(36:18):
to do if I would jump up with them on
Paradise City, and I was kind of like, that's not
really in my my zone, like I can do something
a little more angry.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I'm not sure if I can do Paradise City.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But I jumped up and so that was the first time,
and I was just kind of sharing a microphone with
Perry Farrell Ettie Farrell and we were and we were
just kind of doing you know, backgrounds. It was, you know,
we're just kind of gang vocals there. But then the
next road recovery event came around and it came up again.
They were asking if I would do a few songs
(36:52):
with them, and so I kind of felt like, oh, yeah,
this is this is the time. Because I didn't let
it go as much as I didn't feel like jumping
in was a great idea. I didn't let go of
the idea because I did think that together.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
That that whole group, Dave Duff, Slash, like, I really
liked the way that they sounded, and I thought that
we could do something together. So I was still holding
on to it in the back of my mind. And
so they asked me if I would do do the songs,
(37:33):
and I said definitely, and I went to rehearsal the
night before and then they never asked me to do
any songs with them, and I felt like, hmm, that's
that's kind of sucks. And maybe I was going to
do Hey Joe with Slash, and I said, sure, I'll
(37:54):
do that, but we were talking about doing.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Is it Slither Slipper?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Sure, that's what's the velvet song? Yea, I'm just slither slither. Yeah. Yeah,
that gun does it now?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I heard them do that at one point and and
it's so easy, and.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So it didn't really pan out.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
So I said, okay, well I won't learn them then exactly,
and then during sound check.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
It was just awesome, like.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I you know, I think I maybe did Hey Joe
or or I don't even know if I was. I
don't even know, tell you the truth, if we were going,
if they had me doing it. But when I ran
into them and soundcheck, I said, hey, you know, I
kind of know those songs if you guys want to
do them, And then Duff was kind of wrangling everybody
and saying, hey, he knows them if you want to
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do them. Because because Duff I think was pulling for.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Me on a few occasions with it.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And yes, I think if you, if you I could
be speaking at a out of school here, but if
you want, you know the.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Most amount of dirt that I can give.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You, I don't want dirt, and I'm not the kind
of person I appreciate. The story I guess want to.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Is that I don't think that Matt liked me okay
early on, and I think that Duff was pulling for
me before that. I don't think that I don't think
Matt liked me. So that's, you know, maybe why they
weren't enthusiastic about it together. And then so at that
point Duff was like and it wasn't personal, it wasn't
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anything personal about Matt. I just think that he didn't
know that I could sing the way that I did.
I think he thought that I was a little bit
more like something else. So so then yeah, Duff was
really pulling for it, and luckily he pulled it together
that night, convinced everybody for me to jump in, and
I did it. And I was cramming right before the show,
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just like learning all the lyrics, and luckily they did
have a teleprompter, so it's just kind of like, Okay,
we'll make sure I know the arrangements. It's going to
be there in case I need it. I did it
in sound check with a teleprompter and it seemed to work.
And yeah, so that was basically it. And then after
that point I was kind of pushing them a tiny
(40:31):
bit to say we're gonna do this. I think we
can do this. But I think at that point it
was already too fractured.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, so it.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Wasn't it wasn't necessarily the stories out there maybe like
that I'd been giving these opportunities and I said no
to them. It's not that simple. It's not I don't
want to. Yeah, I don't want to ever come across
disrespectful to them like that where they wanted me to
do it, and I was, you know, felt I was
too good for it.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
It was nothing at all like that.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I just wanted it to be great and just getting
everybody in the same mindset, you know, at the same
time everybody's lives and Slash had a lot going on
with his solo stuff. It was really doing well for
him and that particular vehicle for him. It felt positive
and he was able to do these songs that he
(41:23):
hadn't been able to do in a long time because
Miles can really crush them.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
So I think he was happy doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And you know, ultimately what I felt in talking to them, honestly,
I don't I maybe even written it in an email
to them, saying, are you guys sure you can't work
it out with Axel?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I think that was my last email.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'm saying that as like a fan too, I could
tell you yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, totally, because I just I wanted them back together.
If anything, I just wanted to be great. I wanted
it to be great as much as everybody else I
love them wanted it to be And so that's as
far as my history with them, that's the bottom line
is that I just wanted it to be great. I
didn't want to be a joke, So that's cool.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I really appreciate that story. I wasn't aware of it.
I mean, like again, on the surface of you being considered,
that's nothing, you know, compared and I completely understand it.
It's kind of a cool tie to the last episode
that I did previous with Austin John Winkler from He
was the former frontman from Hinder. He was also considered
(42:37):
for it, and he said he was sanging a few
songs with them, but he said that his heart probably
wasn't in it as much as it should have been
because it was a certain creativity and time in his
life and it just didn't work out. He's like, I
love those guys. It was what a moment and an
opportunity that it was, but you know what, it wasn't right.
It wasn't right. And it's this sounds you know, obviously
(42:59):
not the same story, but it's kind of a similar
theme that it wasn't right. But I think it's fun
for fans that now I can kind of have this.
It's fun. It's it's kind of like a fantasy sports visual,
you know. I was mentally picturing, oh, what if this
actually happened. What if you know, Jimmy led this kind
of pseudo guns and Roses and you know, you know, incarnation,
(43:20):
this new kind of band. That's that's just fun to
think about. But you know, maybe if if the multiverse
theory is right, it's happening somewhere.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yes, I really liked Hinder.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I don't know that he was that he's saying with
them as well and tried also, my friend, I love
the oly Royston.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
You know, yes, I don't know he has not been
on the show, but but.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, he also went and sang with them a bit.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
It's these things.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I and I exchanged some great stories about it when
we could. We toured together just acoustically. We each played
acoustically and we did a tour and we were exchanging
stories about it.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
So it would have been really I can only imagine.
I mean, that's kind of it's a badge of honor.
It's like a it's a small group of those who
tried out for Velvet Revolver. I think it is very cool.
I spoke to a few years ago Mina. Now Keith Caputo,
Uh send it in an audition tape and you guess
you never know, but uh, it's it's it's again. It's
(44:25):
just a cool thing to talk about and you're coming
from a fan and wanting to work with these people.
But again, uh, you know other timeline, it's we are
where we are now.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
So well as long as we can make it great.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That's hey man, that's I love that making you great
in the vision. So uh again, we spoke about what
the current, So what's the best way I think, because
I I I guess if I wanted to keep this
as far as my advice, if people want to google hours,
it might be better to google Jimmy Jimmy neck. Oh,
because just the word hours or hours music. I don't
(45:04):
know if you hear Baby Brownstone back there? Did you
hear him scream?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Just now?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'm just curious. Really, that's that's great. There was a toddler.
He's just turned two, and he's like way more vocal,
repeating things, and he's playing with one of my brothers
back there, and I'm just knocking blocks over. I'm like,
I don't know what's being picked up by the microphone,
so nothing. Oh man, I love that. So I'm hoping
next time, if we get to do this again, he'll
(45:29):
be my little co host, I'll hang out with me
and I'll ask you some questions. Pretty cool, Uh, So
I appreciate you taking the time because you're off to Europe.
So what's what's the plan now? Where can we what's
next for Jimmy? And now that we have this music
out available, it's obviously you're you're touring France to turning
the UK. You know, we'll tell us about it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm going to do some So it's just acoustically, it's
it's difficult to keep the band, the full band going,
you know, especially into Europe and stuff. It's difficult right now.
So I'm going to head over on my own, play
a bunch of shows, get our music out to the
people over there. And yeah, I just try to spread
(46:16):
the music as much as I can.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
My labels never put.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
The Hours albums out overseas, which makes no sense to me.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
So I decided a few years ago to just.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
As again, as challenging as it might be, without any
sort of support or anything. I decided that I'm going
to just go do it on my own and if
I get them at a time.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Then that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
So I'm going to do that first, and I've also
been singing the one thing that I have said yes
to of all the bands who've asked me to sing
with them, because it made the most sense. I'm singing
with this project called Humanist from the UK again and
(47:00):
Rob Marshall It's his It's his Baby and him and
the drummer Scott. I've been doing it for a long
time and basically he has on his albums he has
all different singers sing and he's had like Mark Land
again and Dave Gahan and at Harcourt, Ron Sexsmith, a
(47:21):
lot of great singers.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
On both albums.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
And just last year they were heading out to tour
with Depeche Mode and they asked me if I would
join them and come sing with them. So I jumped
in and I've been having a blast doing it. It's
interesting because it's it's not like, you know, I don't
have to go up there and execute one singer's stuff.
(47:48):
It's a it's a cool challenge because I have to
take all these different singers and bring it into a
space and it ends up becoming our own thing as
a result. And I've been having a good time doing that.
So I'll go over there and do a run of
dates with them through also through like Germany and France
and in the UK, and then I'll come back do
(48:11):
a run through the States solo and then pick up.
Humanist is going to pick up with Black Rebel Motorcycle
Club and do a run of dates opening for them
in October, which is really awesome.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Good stuff. So yeah, if you want to go to
hours dot net, you can see the dates in France
and Italy and the UK and I look forward to
seeing the dates. And if you're around the city or
Long Islands, my guy, I don't want to get his
detention now because he's being good. He's got the long hair,
I got it. He's got to be my concert buddy,
(48:46):
so I got to start taking him the show. So
I have just seen you out out and about Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
That'd be great. Thanks for taking the time to talk
to me, Branda.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Hey, no, I appreciate you taking the time. I know
you got a flight, hopefully not in early white. I
hope I didn't prevent you from getting some.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Beauty sleeping by good.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Try not to ever do those if I can help it. Not.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
My wife, whenever we go, we got to get there
early and I hate it, but whatever, that's another story
for another time, So thank you, thank you, Jimmy Uh.
That does it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion.
When will you see the next one? In the words
of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as
soon as the word, but you'll see it. Thanks to
(49:34):
the lame ass security, I'm going home.
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