Our friend Nils Goldschmidt of Velvet Chains joins. You may have seen them open for Slash with Myles, heard their song "Tattooed" with Richard Fortus, and now they're about to kickoff for Stone Temple Pilots in Brazil. And yes, Nils has been mistaken for Duff...even by Slash's crew! We catch up talking all things VC and GN'R.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and one. My name is Brando. Welcome back to
the podcast. Friend of the podcast, Nils from Velvet Chains.
How's what's going on, buddy dude.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
First of all, congrats on five hundred plus episodes. I'm
honored to be five oh one, start of a new cycle.
It's incredible. So happy to see you and thank you
for having me. Everything's been great.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Likewise, no, thank you. I figured let's kick off this.
I know this five hundred with a familiar face, a
familiar voice. For those who follow the podcast, you've been
on a couple of times, because not just because you
look like Duff and it's be pretending to interview Duff.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Sorry, we joke about that, because I mean, Velvet Chains
is a great band.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We've talked about you being on top with Slash. I
even think I was listening back to the last episode.
And this is a nice little segue because right now
Baby Brownstone is in the back room napping, so he's
like a ticking time bomb. But I had you and
some of your bandmates on last I guess a year
ago because he's not even two yet, ye and me
(01:38):
trying to get him to say his first word on
the air. He hasn't said anything of significance yet on
the air, but we'll see. So he may be a
co host today, maybe not. So let's let's let's not
risk any any time that we.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do have together. Where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And you're in the sweet sweet velvet lounge, the velvet
chains lounge?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, yeah, basic.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm in my home studio. We do a little bit
of production here. Sometimes we've done two or three songs
for Flying a producer, and I work at my home studio,
which is great. I spent quite a bit of money
on this thing and for a couple of years never
used it for anything other than rehearsing. So it's it's
it's cool. But yeah, that Duff comment. I was gonna
wear a T shirt I have that says tough light,
like the beer tough Light. But I figured now how
(02:26):
to swarm my usual bou shirt. But yeah, no, I
do get those those comments every now and then. Man,
oh you look a lot like Duff I. It was
so much. Even in Brazil when we were on tour
with Slash first show, we did. I had my hair down,
and before we started playing, the crowd started shouting duffy, duffy,
and I was like, ah, crap. So I started doing
my hair a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But yeah, oh yeah, no, I see it. And you
have neck tats. I don't know if you had those before.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, I've had these for a while. It's usually on zoom.
You just get to see like the prong of my face.
But I have some like head tattoos here also. And
oh my wife won't let me keep going. So she's like,
if you ever want to get rid of me, just
got a face tattoo, I'll know, I'll walk out the door.
I'm like, crap, I don't really want to get rid
of her, you.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Know, Okay, yeah, yeah I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean, I'm a tattoo guy myself, mainly my arm
with some of my chests.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But the face.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I know the kids today are getting him, but I
don't know. Man, that's such a it's on you forever.
I mean, they're all on you forever, but that's your face.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
If you have a face tattoo, I'm sure you're cool.
I don't want to pass any judgment, but the reason
I bring that up is because I'm preparing for this.
The Doff comparison is right away in my head because
I was looking through just your Facebook page and I
think you were tagged by Eddie Trunk because you were
recently at his like his fortieth radio anniversary special thing,
because Duff and the actual Duff was did some of
(03:45):
the thing for that slash.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
They also recorded stuff for that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And the way Eddie's pointing to you and the way
you're wearing a shirt that Duff would wear, I'm like,
you're not even trying to not look like.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's funny because we're about the same high and I'm
also heavy into working out, and we both have a
long face. It's if I leave, if I let my
hair down, it's it's too much. So I just kind
of wear a ponytail the bait and leave the sides down.
So I'm trying to be my own person, you know.
But I know he's definitely a huge inspiration anyway, And uh, yeah, man,
(04:17):
I wish I could. You know, one may be half
as good as he is on bass, so yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And one last thing before we transition, you gotta sell
a shirt that says I'm not dup mccagan and just
Avelba chains you know, will go on the back or something.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know, I should probably wear one.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
When we were I wish I was DUMF mccagan or something.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, No, it's like, hey, I'm not that. We were
in Brazil and I was I was picking something up
on the table and there was one of us Slash's
roadies behind me, and I just kind of turned around
and he looked at me. He's like, holy shit, dude,
I could have sworn it was stuff from the back.
And I'm like, oh god, damn, So I probably should
wear one front and back. Say, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So what's going on with this guy? What's going on
with the Neils in Velpa chains? What's the latest that
you can you could?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we're about to head down to Brazil again. And
I've said Brazil like five times and then five minutes.
It's wild. But we're going down with Stone Temple Pilots
to a couple of shows, play a festival, and play
a club also there, and we're trying to figure out
what else we're gonna do while we're down there. Hopefully
we'll add a couple more dates. So it's the end
of May, and we're looking at uh we're going to
(05:24):
release an EP which is mostly the songs that we
released as singles kind of packaged into our EP. It's
going to be called Last Rite, and we're adding a
new song in there called Runaway, which is a little
bit more of a horror rock kind of thing. We've
just been playing around with different things. But as soon
as that's out there, we got a new cycle starting.
(05:46):
We're releasing another new song, another single that's not part
of this EP. It's it's, it's, it's, it's. It's what
we've been doing lately, you know, with Dead Inside and
this song Runaway, and it's it's a little on the
heavy your side, and that's coming out May sixteenth. So
the EP is coming out April fourth. The new cycle
(06:06):
starting May sixteenth with a new single called Ghost in
the Shell and some changes coming along for Velvet Chains
to the band. Nothing I can talk about too much
right now. Exciting stuff, man, it's super exciting stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Exciting and busy, but this has got to be a
good busy. This is probably what you live for.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm sure, dude, one hundred percent, And even just seeing
the growth of the band I was looking today. We're
again number twenty two on Billboard on mainstream rock, and
I think twenty one on Media Base right now. So
we had a whole twenty plus weeks I think on
the charts with our latest single, Dead Inside. It's just
been so much fun and we're so grateful to the
(06:48):
fans and the radio stations and everybody out there who's
been supporting us. So yeah, it's only up from here.
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Man, every time I talk to you, it's always something new,
exciting and staying true to who you are. So that's
kind of what you want to see, you stay true
to who you are. It's the same meals each time,
but it's always something new and exciting every time I
talk to you. So it's that is cool, and that
includes this time it's on tempo pilots.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, do you know any of those guys.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I've been lucky enough to have had both Jeff Gooot
and Robert Delay on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, I've met the guys. I just haven't met Jeff personally.
We opened for them in twenty twenty three and again
Brazil it's become like a second home for us, and
so we've kind of had a couple of chats here
and there. Super nice guys, and we're excited to go
back down there again. And yeah we're pitching them. Hey,
(07:43):
maybe we could do some more shows with you guys
in the US too, So you know, we're out there
or whatever comes our way, we're happy to take, especially
with an incredible band like that, right who wouldn't be
honored to go out with STV?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Man, I mean, and when you're going out with a
band like that or opening up for Slash with Miles
Kennedy and you know, obviously you're carving your own path
and with you and you're talking about it, people were
recognizing it and with media base, you guys are charting.
But do you use the opportunity to to learn and
be like, Okay, is there something that we can do
(08:15):
that we can add to whatever makes velvet chains? You know,
keep moving forward that I because these guys have.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Been doing it for a lot longer.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Or do you kind of just like okay, do you
actually go out of your way to ask or do
you just kind of just sit back and see if
there's anything you could take away or are you just
there to rock or what's going on when you're opening
up for our bandits but around the block a couple
of times.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I think it's it's it's a lot of things, right.
I think it's a mix of everything you said. For me,
we never stop learning, and it's every new experience that
we have we try to add it into our music.
For example, if we are out there following a certain
sound or being influenced by something that's happening today, we'll
go out and look for the producer to help us
(08:58):
get to that and explo that and see if it's
something that we could add to our repertoire or if
it's something that's not a good fit for us. So
there's that, But then when we're also out there opening
with legacy bands, incredible acts like SDP, it's how do
we also make sure that because we're there not self serving,
right We're Yeah, obviously it's going to be incredible for
us and some new people are going to hear our music,
(09:20):
but a big chunk of it is we're there to
do a good job for SDP. We got to rile
that crowd up, make sure that they enjoy what we're
putting together so they're ready for the big act, right
they I'd say ninety five percent of the people there,
maybe ninety nine percent are there for SDP, not for us, Right.
We got a nice fan base down there and in
a lot of places, but look, we're there for a
reason and we're not there just to serve ourselves at
(09:40):
the end of the day. So we want to make
sure that we put out music. We put a lot
of energy and we learned from that. And doing that
with Slash and Miles Kennedy and the Conspirators was huge
for us because we really understood that we got to
relate to the crowd. Our lead singer would talk to
them in Portuguese. You know, he had notes written down
on the floor. It's not like he spoke any Portuguese.
Crowd love that and you know that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
(10:03):
I cussed a little bit here and there, but like
an impositive way. It's gonna be e F being crazy
like things like that, right, and in Portuguese, and the
crowd loved that. So I think it's a mix of everything.
It's one we get to hang out with the people
that I me personally. I grew up listening to STP, right,
So my god, why did dream come true. We get
to play shows with them, then we get to learn
(10:23):
from them and their fans, and then we get to
experiment with you know, other music that we can incorporate
but still remain relevant for their crowd. So it's it's
a mix of everything you said, but it's so much
fun at the end of the day. Man, That's what
it's about.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, for sure. And I'll keep bringing up Brazil. I mean,
it's obviously the home away from home for Guns of
Roses or AXL Rose and since that that the Team
Brazil took over. I mean, it's still a bucket listening
to see a show there, like for really, like, is
there way to describe it compared to American audiences. And
(10:56):
I'm really seeing it more because it's just the past
of whatever the outlet is because I'm a huge wrestling
fan as well. I don't know if you are that
there's such a difference between the American crowd and the
international crowd and especially South America Brazil.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I mean, that's I'm right.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I feel like I hear so much about it and
I just wish I was there.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, I know, and I'm I grew up in South
America also, so I've always been familiar with that stuff. Sure,
And when I first came to the US and I
would go see a show, I'd be out there kind
of jumping with my hand in the air. You've seen
the crowds down there, right, And then I'm looking around
me and everybody's just bobbing their head along to the music,
and I'm like, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Why aren't people super excited to be seeing it, like
watching this show. But it's a cultural thing. When you're
from down there, you get to see these bands maybe
once every two, three, four, five years, right, So when
you're there, you make the best of it. Here I
live in Vegas, right, You're gonna have the same band
tour once or twice a year, so it's like, oh,
I didn't see him, you know this time. I'll see
(12:00):
them next time, next year or in a few months.
So you kind of get used to it. I don't
know if it's taken it for granted, but it's not
that big of a deal that they're there, because you
know they'll definitely be there again. But South America, some
political could happen something, whatever it is, and then you
don't know they're going to show up in the next
ten years, but no, I think I mentioned it last
(12:21):
time we did the interview. It pretty much ruined my
life to be out there playing crowds of four thousand
and five thousand. Even in South Battle it was like
eight thousand people. And you know, I don't get nervous
at shows. I'm sure when I first started playing shows,
I did, but it's not that it's a little bit
of anxiety where you just want to get on that
stage and enjoy it. But with eight thousand people, I
couldn't see at the end of the room and look,
(12:43):
there's people out there that have played two one hundred
thousand people. I get it, But when you haven't done
something as big as eight thousand people, it's definitely kind
of a mind blowing thing. And especially once you're out
there and you see that the crowd is getting into
it and that you see some people actually know your songs,
that's that's just something else, And I'm like, it's like
(13:04):
a drug.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I've had this conversation. I remember hanging out with Jeff
Rouse out here in Vegas. He jumped on stage. This
is three years ago probably he jumped on stage with
us for a song we have a feature of him
in one of our songs, and after that we're just
talking about these experiences and he's like, yeah, man, it's
like a drug. It's like he's going like this, man,
it's and I'm like, dude, one hundred percent. Once you
(13:26):
do that, it's like, when do I get to do
this again? And you know, it's it's a long trip
down there, and it's like twelve hour flight from LA
and you're on the road and hotels and we get
to be on that stage for forty minutes as the
opening band. But that makes it all worthwhile, all the
years of work and everything, right, So especially being on
(13:47):
tour you get to do that a few times, it's just, yeah,
it messes with your head.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, you mentioned a couple of things in there, which
is a good jumping off point for me. Jeff rowse
of course from Jeff mccage's loaded a great Seattle musician.
He's been on the show a couple of times. I'm
jealous of his of his hair. Somebody else I'm jealous
of his hair. Who's older than me. I'm like, it's
just gorgeous head of hair. And mine just went down.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
To my face.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I said, that's all so obviously from loaded, and we're
talking about at the same time shows and I mean
specifically Brazil here, but in other countries. So it was
actually a plan of mine, of I mean, it still
could happen. Of my wife and I had to go
abroad this year to go see Guns and Roses as
they tore Europe, as they tore in the Middle East,
(14:33):
and we were really like.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Trying, what were we Where are we going to go Finland?
Could we go to Austria? Where are we going to go?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And then all of a sudden, both of our elderly
cats got sick and all these yeah the rip Blackie
m GB just be that both of them we got
sick at the same time. So all these VET medical
bills and her dad's not well, so we have all
these medical bills that probably should I don't know, Superseded,
(15:01):
I'm playing going to go and see Guns and Roses
to play in a foreign country, so we might have
to wait. See I'm spoiled, spoiled New Yorker. They'll at
least get to play in New Jersey or something, even
though we want to experience it, so we'll see. So
how about you, I mean you know, are they on
your your list? What was the last time you saw
gin R? Have you ever seen them abroad? Because the
closer there I ever got to that was Canada, and
(15:24):
I don't think that counts as I love Canada, but
I'm talking about like a country that does not speak
the same language as me, and other than music, I
want to just be able to go there communicate their music.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Have you ever seen them, you know, not in Vegas
far away?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
No. And by the way, I'm sorry about your cats, man.
I hope that hopefully they've recovered since or I hope
that's the No.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, no, I said, rip, they're they're They're gone.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh dude, No I missed that. Oh I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I said it kind of quick because someone who knows
people are like this guy talks about his cats too much.
But I don't know Todd Kerns wants to talk about cats.
Let's talk about cats. Peop wants to talk about cats.
Let's talk about cats.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Tracy guns, they all showed me their cats.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's amazing. I'm a dog guy. We have two dogs here.
But funny enough that you mentioned Todd. I just had
dinner with him my wife and his wife on Saturday,
and apparently his one of his cats was in the hospital,
so I was checking on him yesterday make sure everything
went well. But yeah, yeah, there's a cat connection, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I sent him some love on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He made a post, yeah if I Because I'm allergic
to dogs and I found out that I'm really allergic
to cats as well, so that's why I was taking
cat allergy shots for like a year, so I had
to suffocate.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
In my own home.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But now whenever i'm out, especially you know, abroad, I
want to see a street cat.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I want to see a bodega cat, you know. That's sure.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now I'm trying to get my cat fixed other places,
but if your dog wants to make an appearance, I'll
take that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
No, I locked them up because they're rowdy and then
they make noise and then they don't stop, and every
time there's a delivery, they let me know very very loudly.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
To answer your question. I think I saw gn R
on the not in this Lifetime tour probably about four
or five times. Definitely the the first show in Vegas,
because first they did what Troubadour and then they did
Vegas and it was exciting because it was like nobody
knew if they were gonna break up in the middle
of the show get pissed off at each other, right,
(17:20):
kind of Jane's addiction is that the one that, oh
that happened.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I know that people were that's I made that, that
joke that you would have thought that would have been
axle and slashed how.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The band would have ended. But no, it was Jane's addiction,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, And so I saw them there and then I
kept seeing them every time they came to Vegas, and
I saw them in Seattle once too, And I don't
think i've seen him internationally though, but hey, challenge accepted, man,
I think that's gonna be on on our list. We're
waiting on confirmation on a few tour options. So it's
hard to make plans, uh, when when you're in a
band that's kind of up and coming and I guess
(17:56):
we're called the baby band, but you know we're charting
well and all that, so any something could come along
or waiting on confirmation and something, So it's really hard
to make plants, especially expensive plants where you need to
buy tickets, wait in advance and then you don't get refunded.
Very true.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's why we didn't buy tickets. I don't my wife,
who loves she's a concert freak. She's you know, just
Dave Matthews alone. She's been almost eighty but she's like,
you still want to go. I'm like, do you want
Harrison to go to college one day?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Let's let's wait.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Maybe let's not buy plane tickets and hotel just yeah,
let's let's see.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Maybe we'll I don't know, maybe one day I'll have
an episode that really hits and I can make money
off it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We'll see. But uh, you know, and I mean, yeah,
that's that's cool though.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And you never know with gn R that you could
be an opening band. I want to put that out
in the universe. I know they've already announced some because
they get local bands. It's usually it's it's more than
just who they announce, you know. Of course they have
a public enemy, right they have the sex pistols with
Frank Carter, and there's another one that's I'm missing right now,
(18:57):
but you never know. Velvet chains, Yeah, I know it
goes the roses in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, those are big bands obviously, right, so they're gonna
take their pic.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But it's not always the case, That's what I'm saying.
I remember I had on a band, another V band,
the Velveteens. They came on and they actually had They
were a last minute replacement for Wolfgang for yeah, So
I mean, I know Wolfgang is kind.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Of you know, big too, but they gen R is
good with that.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They're good with like finding out who the next big
thing is or like who's on the cost and taking
them out.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So I like that about them.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and I think we we're building a rest and
they so, hey, we did. I think Slashing his camp
was happy with us in Brazil, so hopefully you know,
we're an option for that. That'd be sick, be incredible
and yeah, fingers crossed. Who knows, hey, and if not,
maybe the next one.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So come out with the Blues record. So if anything,
worst case scenario, if Slash doesn't know the Blues tour,
you get on that one.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's right, keep why not keep expanding the sounds.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So just as a you know fan, the fan, not
just talking to the because that's what's cool about here.
It's an interview slash Man a fan where you know,
friends talking of course guns and roses with that that
change recently with the drummer and Isaac Carpenter. I don't
know if you've ever crossed paths with him. You never know,
who knows somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Have you ever met Frank? Have you ever met Isaac?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's you know, it's funny, I haven't. We featured on
our first ever single, Tattooed is Richard Florida's. I'm very
close with Jeff Rows and Mike Squires. They're great friends.
But no, no, I have not met either of the drummers.
I'm a big fan of both. I mean, I love loaded.
I obviously have seen Frank live a few times, and
I'm a huge man. But yeah, it would When when
(20:40):
they announced that Frank was leaving, immediately my mind went to, hmmm,
I bet it's gonna be Matt coming back, you know,
for I didn't think maybe Steven probably, I don't know,
with the back injuries and stuff, maybe it was a
tougher choice. But I'm like, okay, And I think Matt
had posted a picture a couple of days before that
kind of looked like something was going on, and I'm
(21:01):
sure you saw that, so yeah, I didn't expect it.
I'm not in the know. I'm not anybody who's close
to that camp, you know. And at that level, I'm
also not calling like my buddies and loaded and say hey, Mike,
tell me the latest.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Right right, right right? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I don't do that the Squires either, who does the
theme song for this this podcast? And the same thing
now that knowing that Richard Ford's listens and I'm able
to just to casually talk to him through Instagram, I
did not ask him.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm like, why am I going to ask that?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And he certainly kept a poker face because I would
talk to him up until the announcement. That's clearly something
that was in the works for a while, and it's
interesting and I feel I feel some sympathy for the
fans I thought might have it might have been Matt
or even Steven.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I just I knew that wasn't going to be the case.
I didn't know Isaac.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Carpenter until I saw fans brighter than me or more
in the know than me somehow putting that name out there.
I'm just like, hmm, I could see that, but it's
really cool. I didn't get to talk about it on
the podcast. Yet Bashi and Bach congratulated him, and he's
a co writer with Sebastian. He's like been writing with
Sebastian Bach for like the past ten to fifteen years.
(22:08):
Isaac Carpenter, So, I think that's pretty awesome that he's
working with Baz and he's written some you know, a
lot of Bass's last few albums have done well, praise, songwriting, praise, So.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They're bringing in a drumer who can write songs.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So it's I'm jealous of the fans who got to
see them abroad right away and get to see what
Isaac Carpenter so could do.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So just want to, yeah, bring that.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Up, especially if he's caught Duff's seal of approval, right,
because you know, bass player and drummer, they got a
groove and they got to know each other well and
they got to be comfortable with each other. So I'm
sure if anything, it's it's gonna elevate the game. Right again,
not saying anything about about Frank by any means. I
love the guy's work and he's incredibly talented. But this
other guy comes with Duff's approval, who's a bass player, right,
(22:52):
so they must do well together. So excited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, maybe have you ever seen them?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Because they played briefly together, and I mean not just
in loaded, but Awall Nation.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Have you ever seen that band?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I saw that band live once. For some reason, Awell
Nation is not typically my cup of teat as a band,
like it's not something I'd listened to I'm driving or
rocking out. But so I didn't pay much attention. I
just had a management meeting there that happened to be
blah blah blah this whole thing a couple of years ago.
But but yeah, I didn't know that he was. So
(23:24):
he was a drummer.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Huh, Yeah, he was the drummer.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's been the drummer for a Wall for like ten
years for and then has been on some records, and
it was a couple of years ago that because you
know Duff, he did the same thing with James Addiction
prior to them breaking up. He'll do some guest dates
filling in as their basis. So he he did that.
And even tho, if you don't like a Wall Nation,
do this. Since we already spoke about cats, there's a
viral video.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They're big song sale.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's just like a cat creeping along to the beat
and like it just jumps in the air and fall.
I mean safely. The cat's fine. But watch it. I'm
poorly describing it, but it's a cat video. What else
are you going to do after you're watching us?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So I will check that out. I will definitely look
into that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So anything else that you're able to talk about that
you're excited about before.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I guess we wrap up. Yeah here episode of five
ball one.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
No look, I tell everybody to check us out, anybody
who hasn't heard us. We are coming up with some
new stuff that we're going darker. We're going into the
synthwave stuff. We're being experimenting with a little bit of that.
We want to stay relevant, we want to be relevant.
We're all influenced by the nineties two thousands, but we're
not in it to make what it's already being done, right.
We're trying to stay ahead of the curve because that's
(24:40):
what we love. So check us out our socials at
Velvet Chains, band on Instagram and everything else is at
Velvet Chains blah blah blah. But we're excited to head
down to brazila with Stone Temple pilots. I'm excited for
what's coming after that, a couple of changes coming in
the band. Can't say much, but no, super excited to
be here. Thank you. It's my third time on this
podc I'm a huge fan. I've heard pretty much every episode, dude,
(25:03):
So thank you for what you do.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Man, Well, that means a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And actually before I get out of here, and I
guess it does tie in because as we now have
five hundred episodes, it was recently my tenth year for
it's still currently working for Knock Grenwood, iHeartRadio and Premiere
Radio Networks. So ten years at iHeart and twenty years
as a professional. You know, I started in college, so
(25:27):
I mean, if you want to count that, it's like
twenty three twenty four years.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
But it's a long long time and to.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Still be able to enjoy what I do, which is
why I relate to what you're talking about. It's just
you're enjoying your passion and you just never know when
something's going to happen for you and you get to
meet all these cool people. So with that, I wish
I can aspire to Eddie Trunk's career.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know, I've probably is too late for that. Just
how was that experience?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
It was the whole fortieth thumb because as a radio guy,
Eddie's been on the show.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I just just tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Is there anything you could tell me about that because
it's a documentary coming out about Eddie's forty years in radio, right.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, Yeah, I was just invited. He hit me up
to invite me over to his event that he did
last year, I think over at House of Blues here
in Vegas, So I went to that. I've also been
to his birthday party here in Vegas that he does
on private thing. And Eddie's the man dude, he's so nice.
We were out on tour in the Midwest and somebody
hit me up here from Vegas. My friend Stony, he
hits me up and he's like, hey, man, Eddie, just
give you guys a shout out on a show for
(26:29):
Dead Inside blah blah blah, and like we never I
never even told that we had a new song out.
Like the guy's such a gentleman and it's so so kind.
He didn't need to do that, and he's such a
such a great guy. And I see, you know, people
like Ronnie Radk badmouthing the guy, and it's like, dude,
once you get to know Eddie, you realize that he's
one of the kindest, most gentle dudes. He's like a
general giant. He's such a nice guy. So I don't
like bad mouthing people. I don't like any of that stuff.
(26:51):
I don't. It didn't sit well with me. But hey,
it's an entertainment industry, man, it's you're gonna say the
wildest stuff and hey, some cloud So.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, well, I guess that goes back to before. Maybe
some people with face tattoos are not so nice, but
then you post Malone's a nice guy because he put
out put out good vibes. Yeah, I saw that. I
was like, you're hating on Eddie. I understand, like like
with me or anybody, if you're not a fan of somebody.
But yeah, if you're gonna say like nasty things, just whatever,
(27:21):
I don't want to I don't need to get that
guy any attention.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and uh and just like that, I like, dude,
I'm sure I've taken a picture with somebody that's less
than a stellar human being. I'm sure you know there's
but by association, just because of a picture. But to
what you're saying, Uh, dude, it's never too late.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I totally see you being the next Eddie Tronk. Dude.
Hell yeah, you should just push as hard as you can.
You'd be so good at it. You're one of the
best interviews I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So yeah, man, well, well, well thank you. We'll see
what Baby Brownstone brings to the table. I'll either make
him a producer or he'll be the co host that
helps me push me over the top.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
But regardless, I love doing it. I can't wait till
the next time I get to talk to you. So
that does for this episode of Appetite for Distortion?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
When will you see the next one?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
In the words of Axl Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know how soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thanks to the lame mass security.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'm going home.
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and one. My name is Brando. Welcome back to
the podcast. Friend of the podcast, Nils from Velvet Chains.
How's what's going on, buddy dude.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
First of all, congrats on five hundred plus episodes. I'm
honored to be five oh one, start of a new cycle.
It's incredible. So happy to see you and thank you
for having me. Everything's been great.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Likewise, no, thank you. I figured let's kick off this.
I know this five hundred with a familiar face, a
familiar voice. For those who follow the podcast, you've been
on a couple of times, because not just because you
look like Duff and it's be pretending to interview Duff.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Sorry, we joke about that, because I mean, Velvet Chains
is a great band.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We've talked about you being on top with Slash. I
even think I was listening back to the last episode.
And this is a nice little segue because right now
Baby Brownstone is in the back room napping, so he's
like a ticking time bomb. But I had you and
some of your bandmates on last I guess a year
ago because he's not even two yet, ye and me
(01:38):
trying to get him to say his first word on
the air. He hasn't said anything of significance yet on
the air, but we'll see. So he may be a
co host today, maybe not. So let's let's let's not
risk any any time that we.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do have together. Where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And you're in the sweet sweet velvet lounge, the velvet
chains lounge?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, yeah, basic.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm in my home studio. We do a little bit
of production here. Sometimes we've done two or three songs
for Flying a producer, and I work at my home studio,
which is great. I spent quite a bit of money
on this thing and for a couple of years never
used it for anything other than rehearsing. So it's it's
it's cool. But yeah, that Duff comment. I was gonna
wear a T shirt I have that says tough light,
like the beer tough Light. But I figured now how
(02:26):
to swarm my usual bou shirt. But yeah, no, I
do get those those comments every now and then. Man,
oh you look a lot like Duff I. It was
so much. Even in Brazil when we were on tour
with Slash first show, we did. I had my hair down,
and before we started playing, the crowd started shouting duffy, duffy,
and I was like, ah, crap. So I started doing
my hair a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But yeah, oh yeah, no, I see it. And you
have neck tats. I don't know if you had those before.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, I've had these for a while. It's usually on zoom.
You just get to see like the prong of my face.
But I have some like head tattoos here also. And
oh my wife won't let me keep going. So she's like,
if you ever want to get rid of me, just
got a face tattoo, I'll know, I'll walk out the door.
I'm like, crap, I don't really want to get rid
of her, you.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Know, Okay, yeah, yeah I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean, I'm a tattoo guy myself, mainly my arm
with some of my chests.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But the face.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I know the kids today are getting him, but I
don't know. Man, that's such a it's on you forever.
I mean, they're all on you forever, but that's your face.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
If you have a face tattoo, I'm sure you're cool.
I don't want to pass any judgment, but the reason
I bring that up is because I'm preparing for this.
The Doff comparison is right away in my head because
I was looking through just your Facebook page and I
think you were tagged by Eddie Trunk because you were
recently at his like his fortieth radio anniversary special thing,
because Duff and the actual Duff was did some of
(03:45):
the thing for that slash.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
They also recorded stuff for that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And the way Eddie's pointing to you and the way
you're wearing a shirt that Duff would wear, I'm like,
you're not even trying to not look like.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's funny because we're about the same high and I'm
also heavy into working out, and we both have a
long face. It's if I leave, if I let my
hair down, it's it's too much. So I just kind
of wear a ponytail the bait and leave the sides down.
So I'm trying to be my own person, you know.
But I know he's definitely a huge inspiration anyway, And uh, yeah, man,
(04:17):
I wish I could. You know, one may be half
as good as he is on bass, so yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And one last thing before we transition, you gotta sell
a shirt that says I'm not dup mccagan and just
Avelba chains you know, will go on the back or something.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know, I should probably wear one.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
When we were I wish I was DUMF mccagan or something.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, No, it's like, hey, I'm not that. We were
in Brazil and I was I was picking something up
on the table and there was one of us Slash's
roadies behind me, and I just kind of turned around
and he looked at me. He's like, holy shit, dude,
I could have sworn it was stuff from the back.
And I'm like, oh god, damn, So I probably should
wear one front and back. Say, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So what's going on with this guy? What's going on
with the Neils in Velpa chains? What's the latest that
you can you could?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we're about to head down to Brazil again. And
I've said Brazil like five times and then five minutes.
It's wild. But we're going down with Stone Temple Pilots
to a couple of shows, play a festival, and play
a club also there, and we're trying to figure out
what else we're gonna do while we're down there. Hopefully
we'll add a couple more dates. So it's the end
of May, and we're looking at uh we're going to
(05:24):
release an EP which is mostly the songs that we
released as singles kind of packaged into our EP. It's
going to be called Last Rite, and we're adding a
new song in there called Runaway, which is a little
bit more of a horror rock kind of thing. We've
just been playing around with different things. But as soon
as that's out there, we got a new cycle starting.
(05:46):
We're releasing another new song, another single that's not part
of this EP. It's it's, it's, it's, it's. It's what
we've been doing lately, you know, with Dead Inside and
this song Runaway, and it's it's a little on the
heavy your side, and that's coming out May sixteenth. So
the EP is coming out April fourth. The new cycle
(06:06):
starting May sixteenth with a new single called Ghost in
the Shell and some changes coming along for Velvet Chains
to the band. Nothing I can talk about too much
right now. Exciting stuff, man, it's super exciting stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Exciting and busy, but this has got to be a
good busy. This is probably what you live for.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm sure, dude, one hundred percent, And even just seeing
the growth of the band I was looking today. We're
again number twenty two on Billboard on mainstream rock, and
I think twenty one on Media Base right now. So
we had a whole twenty plus weeks I think on
the charts with our latest single, Dead Inside. It's just
been so much fun and we're so grateful to the
(06:48):
fans and the radio stations and everybody out there who's
been supporting us. So yeah, it's only up from here.
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Man, every time I talk to you, it's always something new,
exciting and staying true to who you are. So that's
kind of what you want to see, you stay true
to who you are. It's the same meals each time,
but it's always something new and exciting every time I
talk to you. So it's that is cool, and that
includes this time it's on tempo pilots.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, do you know any of those guys.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I've been lucky enough to have had both Jeff Gooot
and Robert Delay on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, I've met the guys. I just haven't met Jeff personally.
We opened for them in twenty twenty three and again
Brazil it's become like a second home for us, and
so we've kind of had a couple of chats here
and there. Super nice guys, and we're excited to go
back down there again. And yeah we're pitching them. Hey,
(07:43):
maybe we could do some more shows with you guys
in the US too, So you know, we're out there
or whatever comes our way, we're happy to take, especially
with an incredible band like that, right who wouldn't be
honored to go out with STV?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Man, I mean, and when you're going out with a
band like that or opening up for Slash with Miles
Kennedy and you know, obviously you're carving your own path
and with you and you're talking about it, people were
recognizing it and with media base, you guys are charting.
But do you use the opportunity to to learn and
be like, Okay, is there something that we can do
(08:15):
that we can add to whatever makes velvet chains? You know,
keep moving forward that I because these guys have.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Been doing it for a lot longer.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Or do you kind of just like okay, do you
actually go out of your way to ask or do
you just kind of just sit back and see if
there's anything you could take away or are you just
there to rock or what's going on when you're opening
up for our bandits but around the block a couple
of times.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I think it's it's it's a lot of things, right.
I think it's a mix of everything you said. For me,
we never stop learning, and it's every new experience that
we have we try to add it into our music.
For example, if we are out there following a certain
sound or being influenced by something that's happening today, we'll
go out and look for the producer to help us
(08:58):
get to that and explo that and see if it's
something that we could add to our repertoire or if
it's something that's not a good fit for us. So
there's that, But then when we're also out there opening
with legacy bands, incredible acts like SDP, it's how do
we also make sure that because we're there not self serving,
right We're Yeah, obviously it's going to be incredible for
us and some new people are going to hear our music,
(09:20):
but a big chunk of it is we're there to
do a good job for SDP. We got to rile
that crowd up, make sure that they enjoy what we're
putting together so they're ready for the big act, right
they I'd say ninety five percent of the people there,
maybe ninety nine percent are there for SDP, not for us, Right.
We got a nice fan base down there and in
a lot of places, but look, we're there for a
reason and we're not there just to serve ourselves at
(09:40):
the end of the day. So we want to make
sure that we put out music. We put a lot
of energy and we learned from that. And doing that
with Slash and Miles Kennedy and the Conspirators was huge
for us because we really understood that we got to
relate to the crowd. Our lead singer would talk to
them in Portuguese. You know, he had notes written down
on the floor. It's not like he spoke any Portuguese.
Crowd love that and you know that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
(10:03):
I cussed a little bit here and there, but like
an impositive way. It's gonna be e F being crazy
like things like that, right, and in Portuguese, and the
crowd loved that. So I think it's a mix of everything.
It's one we get to hang out with the people
that I me personally. I grew up listening to STP, right,
So my god, why did dream come true. We get
to play shows with them, then we get to learn
(10:23):
from them and their fans, and then we get to
experiment with you know, other music that we can incorporate
but still remain relevant for their crowd. So it's it's
a mix of everything you said, but it's so much
fun at the end of the day. Man, That's what
it's about.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, for sure. And I'll keep bringing up Brazil. I mean,
it's obviously the home away from home for Guns of
Roses or AXL Rose and since that that the Team
Brazil took over. I mean, it's still a bucket listening
to see a show there, like for really, like, is
there way to describe it compared to American audiences. And
(10:56):
I'm really seeing it more because it's just the past
of whatever the outlet is because I'm a huge wrestling
fan as well. I don't know if you are that
there's such a difference between the American crowd and the
international crowd and especially South America Brazil.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I mean, that's I'm right.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I feel like I hear so much about it and
I just wish I was there.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, I know, and I'm I grew up in South
America also, so I've always been familiar with that stuff. Sure,
And when I first came to the US and I
would go see a show, I'd be out there kind
of jumping with my hand in the air. You've seen
the crowds down there, right, And then I'm looking around
me and everybody's just bobbing their head along to the music,
and I'm like, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Why aren't people super excited to be seeing it, like
watching this show. But it's a cultural thing. When you're
from down there, you get to see these bands maybe
once every two, three, four, five years, right, So when
you're there, you make the best of it. Here I
live in Vegas, right, You're gonna have the same band
tour once or twice a year, so it's like, oh,
I didn't see him, you know this time. I'll see
(12:00):
them next time, next year or in a few months.
So you kind of get used to it. I don't
know if it's taken it for granted, but it's not
that big of a deal that they're there, because you
know they'll definitely be there again. But South America, some
political could happen something, whatever it is, and then you
don't know they're going to show up in the next
ten years, but no, I think I mentioned it last
(12:21):
time we did the interview. It pretty much ruined my
life to be out there playing crowds of four thousand
and five thousand. Even in South Battle it was like
eight thousand people. And you know, I don't get nervous
at shows. I'm sure when I first started playing shows,
I did, but it's not that it's a little bit
of anxiety where you just want to get on that
stage and enjoy it. But with eight thousand people, I
couldn't see at the end of the room and look,
(12:43):
there's people out there that have played two one hundred
thousand people. I get it, But when you haven't done
something as big as eight thousand people, it's definitely kind
of a mind blowing thing. And especially once you're out
there and you see that the crowd is getting into
it and that you see some people actually know your songs,
that's that's just something else, And I'm like, it's like
(13:04):
a drug.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I've had this conversation. I remember hanging out with Jeff
Rouse out here in Vegas. He jumped on stage. This
is three years ago probably he jumped on stage with
us for a song we have a feature of him
in one of our songs, and after that we're just
talking about these experiences and he's like, yeah, man, it's
like a drug. It's like he's going like this, man,
it's and I'm like, dude, one hundred percent. Once you
(13:26):
do that, it's like, when do I get to do
this again? And you know, it's it's a long trip
down there, and it's like twelve hour flight from LA
and you're on the road and hotels and we get
to be on that stage for forty minutes as the
opening band. But that makes it all worthwhile, all the
years of work and everything, right, So especially being on
(13:47):
tour you get to do that a few times, it's just, yeah,
it messes with your head.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, you mentioned a couple of things in there, which
is a good jumping off point for me. Jeff rowse
of course from Jeff mccage's loaded a great Seattle musician.
He's been on the show a couple of times. I'm
jealous of his of his hair. Somebody else I'm jealous
of his hair. Who's older than me. I'm like, it's
just gorgeous head of hair. And mine just went down.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
To my face.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I said, that's all so obviously from loaded, and we're
talking about at the same time shows and I mean
specifically Brazil here, but in other countries. So it was
actually a plan of mine, of I mean, it still
could happen. Of my wife and I had to go
abroad this year to go see Guns and Roses as
they tore Europe, as they tore in the Middle East,
(14:33):
and we were really like.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Trying, what were we Where are we going to go Finland?
Could we go to Austria? Where are we going to go?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And then all of a sudden, both of our elderly
cats got sick and all these yeah the rip Blackie
m GB just be that both of them we got
sick at the same time. So all these VET medical
bills and her dad's not well, so we have all
these medical bills that probably should I don't know, Superseded,
(15:01):
I'm playing going to go and see Guns and Roses
to play in a foreign country, so we might have
to wait. See I'm spoiled, spoiled New Yorker. They'll at
least get to play in New Jersey or something, even
though we want to experience it, so we'll see. So
how about you, I mean you know, are they on
your your list? What was the last time you saw
gin R? Have you ever seen them abroad? Because the
closer there I ever got to that was Canada, and
(15:24):
I don't think that counts as I love Canada, but
I'm talking about like a country that does not speak
the same language as me, and other than music, I
want to just be able to go there communicate their music.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Have you ever seen them, you know, not in Vegas
far away?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
No. And by the way, I'm sorry about your cats, man.
I hope that hopefully they've recovered since or I hope
that's the No.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, no, I said, rip, they're they're They're gone.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh dude, No I missed that. Oh I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I said it kind of quick because someone who knows
people are like this guy talks about his cats too much.
But I don't know Todd Kerns wants to talk about cats.
Let's talk about cats. Peop wants to talk about cats.
Let's talk about cats.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Tracy guns, they all showed me their cats.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's amazing. I'm a dog guy. We have two dogs here.
But funny enough that you mentioned Todd. I just had
dinner with him my wife and his wife on Saturday,
and apparently his one of his cats was in the hospital,
so I was checking on him yesterday make sure everything
went well. But yeah, yeah, there's a cat connection, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I sent him some love on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He made a post, yeah if I Because I'm allergic
to dogs and I found out that I'm really allergic
to cats as well, so that's why I was taking
cat allergy shots for like a year, so I had
to suffocate.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
In my own home.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But now whenever i'm out, especially you know, abroad, I
want to see a street cat.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I want to see a bodega cat, you know. That's sure.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now I'm trying to get my cat fixed other places,
but if your dog wants to make an appearance, I'll
take that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
No, I locked them up because they're rowdy and then
they make noise and then they don't stop, and every
time there's a delivery, they let me know very very loudly.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
To answer your question. I think I saw gn R
on the not in this Lifetime tour probably about four
or five times. Definitely the the first show in Vegas,
because first they did what Troubadour and then they did
Vegas and it was exciting because it was like nobody
knew if they were gonna break up in the middle
of the show get pissed off at each other, right,
(17:20):
kind of Jane's addiction is that the one that, oh
that happened.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I know that people were that's I made that, that
joke that you would have thought that would have been
axle and slashed how.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The band would have ended. But no, it was Jane's addiction,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, And so I saw them there and then I
kept seeing them every time they came to Vegas, and
I saw them in Seattle once too, And I don't
think i've seen him internationally though, but hey, challenge accepted, man,
I think that's gonna be on on our list. We're
waiting on confirmation on a few tour options. So it's
hard to make plans, uh, when when you're in a
band that's kind of up and coming and I guess
(17:56):
we're called the baby band, but you know we're charting
well and all that, so any something could come along
or waiting on confirmation and something, So it's really hard
to make plants, especially expensive plants where you need to
buy tickets, wait in advance and then you don't get refunded.
Very true.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's why we didn't buy tickets. I don't my wife,
who loves she's a concert freak. She's you know, just
Dave Matthews alone. She's been almost eighty but she's like,
you still want to go. I'm like, do you want
Harrison to go to college one day?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Let's let's wait.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Maybe let's not buy plane tickets and hotel just yeah,
let's let's see.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Maybe we'll I don't know, maybe one day I'll have
an episode that really hits and I can make money
off it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We'll see. But uh, you know, and I mean, yeah,
that's that's cool though.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And you never know with gn R that you could
be an opening band. I want to put that out
in the universe. I know they've already announced some because
they get local bands. It's usually it's it's more than
just who they announce, you know. Of course they have
a public enemy, right they have the sex pistols with
Frank Carter, and there's another one that's I'm missing right now,
(18:57):
but you never know. Velvet chains, Yeah, I know it
goes the roses in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, those are big bands obviously, right, so they're gonna
take their pic.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But it's not always the case, That's what I'm saying.
I remember I had on a band, another V band,
the Velveteens. They came on and they actually had They
were a last minute replacement for Wolfgang for yeah, So
I mean, I know Wolfgang is kind.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Of you know, big too, but they gen R is
good with that.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They're good with like finding out who the next big
thing is or like who's on the cost and taking
them out.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So I like that about them.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and I think we we're building a rest and
they so, hey, we did. I think Slashing his camp
was happy with us in Brazil, so hopefully you know,
we're an option for that. That'd be sick, be incredible
and yeah, fingers crossed. Who knows, hey, and if not,
maybe the next one.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So come out with the Blues record. So if anything,
worst case scenario, if Slash doesn't know the Blues tour,
you get on that one.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's right, keep why not keep expanding the sounds.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So just as a you know fan, the fan, not
just talking to the because that's what's cool about here.
It's an interview slash Man a fan where you know,
friends talking of course guns and roses with that that
change recently with the drummer and Isaac Carpenter. I don't
know if you've ever crossed paths with him. You never know,
who knows somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Have you ever met Frank? Have you ever met Isaac?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's you know, it's funny, I haven't. We featured on
our first ever single, Tattooed is Richard Florida's. I'm very
close with Jeff Rows and Mike Squires. They're great friends.
But no, no, I have not met either of the drummers.
I'm a big fan of both. I mean, I love loaded.
I obviously have seen Frank live a few times, and
I'm a huge man. But yeah, it would When when
(20:40):
they announced that Frank was leaving, immediately my mind went to, hmmm,
I bet it's gonna be Matt coming back, you know,
for I didn't think maybe Steven probably, I don't know,
with the back injuries and stuff, maybe it was a
tougher choice. But I'm like, okay, And I think Matt
had posted a picture a couple of days before that
kind of looked like something was going on, and I'm
(21:01):
sure you saw that, so yeah, I didn't expect it.
I'm not in the know. I'm not anybody who's close
to that camp, you know. And at that level, I'm
also not calling like my buddies and loaded and say hey, Mike,
tell me the latest.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Right right, right right? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I don't do that the Squires either, who does the
theme song for this this podcast? And the same thing
now that knowing that Richard Ford's listens and I'm able
to just to casually talk to him through Instagram, I
did not ask him.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm like, why am I going to ask that?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And he certainly kept a poker face because I would
talk to him up until the announcement. That's clearly something
that was in the works for a while, and it's
interesting and I feel I feel some sympathy for the
fans I thought might have it might have been Matt
or even Steven.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I just I knew that wasn't going to be the case.
I didn't know Isaac.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Carpenter until I saw fans brighter than me or more
in the know than me somehow putting that name out there.
I'm just like, hmm, I could see that, but it's
really cool. I didn't get to talk about it on
the podcast. Yet Bashi and Bach congratulated him, and he's
a co writer with Sebastian. He's like been writing with
Sebastian Bach for like the past ten to fifteen years.
(22:08):
Isaac Carpenter, So, I think that's pretty awesome that he's
working with Baz and he's written some you know, a
lot of Bass's last few albums have done well, praise, songwriting, praise, So.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They're bringing in a drumer who can write songs.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So it's I'm jealous of the fans who got to
see them abroad right away and get to see what
Isaac Carpenter so could do.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So just want to, yeah, bring that.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Up, especially if he's caught Duff's seal of approval, right,
because you know, bass player and drummer, they got a
groove and they got to know each other well and
they got to be comfortable with each other. So I'm
sure if anything, it's it's gonna elevate the game. Right again,
not saying anything about about Frank by any means. I
love the guy's work and he's incredibly talented. But this
other guy comes with Duff's approval, who's a bass player, right,
(22:52):
so they must do well together. So excited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, maybe have you ever seen them?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Because they played briefly together, and I mean not just
in loaded, but Awall Nation.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Have you ever seen that band?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I saw that band live once. For some reason, Awell
Nation is not typically my cup of teat as a band,
like it's not something I'd listened to I'm driving or
rocking out. But so I didn't pay much attention. I
just had a management meeting there that happened to be
blah blah blah this whole thing a couple of years ago.
But but yeah, I didn't know that he was. So
(23:24):
he was a drummer.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Huh, Yeah, he was the drummer.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's been the drummer for a Wall for like ten
years for and then has been on some records, and
it was a couple of years ago that because you
know Duff, he did the same thing with James Addiction
prior to them breaking up. He'll do some guest dates
filling in as their basis. So he he did that.
And even tho, if you don't like a Wall Nation,
do this. Since we already spoke about cats, there's a
viral video.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They're big song sale.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's just like a cat creeping along to the beat
and like it just jumps in the air and fall.
I mean safely. The cat's fine. But watch it. I'm
poorly describing it, but it's a cat video. What else
are you going to do after you're watching us?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So I will check that out. I will definitely look
into that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So anything else that you're able to talk about that
you're excited about before.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I guess we wrap up. Yeah here episode of five
ball one.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
No look, I tell everybody to check us out, anybody
who hasn't heard us. We are coming up with some
new stuff that we're going darker. We're going into the
synthwave stuff. We're being experimenting with a little bit of that.
We want to stay relevant, we want to be relevant.
We're all influenced by the nineties two thousands, but we're
not in it to make what it's already being done, right.
We're trying to stay ahead of the curve because that's
(24:40):
what we love. So check us out our socials at
Velvet Chains, band on Instagram and everything else is at
Velvet Chains blah blah blah. But we're excited to head
down to brazila with Stone Temple pilots. I'm excited for
what's coming after that, a couple of changes coming in
the band. Can't say much, but no, super excited to
be here. Thank you. It's my third time on this
podc I'm a huge fan. I've heard pretty much every episode, dude,
(25:03):
So thank you for what you do.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Man, Well, that means a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And actually before I get out of here, and I
guess it does tie in because as we now have
five hundred episodes, it was recently my tenth year for
it's still currently working for Knock Grenwood, iHeartRadio and Premiere
Radio Networks. So ten years at iHeart and twenty years
as a professional. You know, I started in college, so
(25:27):
I mean, if you want to count that, it's like
twenty three twenty four years.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
But it's a long long time and to.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Still be able to enjoy what I do, which is
why I relate to what you're talking about. It's just
you're enjoying your passion and you just never know when
something's going to happen for you and you get to
meet all these cool people. So with that, I wish
I can aspire to Eddie Trunk's career.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know, I've probably is too late for that. Just
how was that experience?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
It was the whole fortieth thumb because as a radio guy,
Eddie's been on the show.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I just just tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Is there anything you could tell me about that because
it's a documentary coming out about Eddie's forty years in radio, right.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, Yeah, I was just invited. He hit me up
to invite me over to his event that he did
last year, I think over at House of Blues here
in Vegas, So I went to that. I've also been
to his birthday party here in Vegas that he does
on private thing. And Eddie's the man dude, he's so nice.
We were out on tour in the Midwest and somebody
hit me up here from Vegas. My friend Stony, he
hits me up and he's like, hey, man, Eddie, just
give you guys a shout out on a show for
(26:29):
Dead Inside blah blah blah, and like we never I
never even told that we had a new song out.
Like the guy's such a gentleman and it's so so kind.
He didn't need to do that, and he's such a
such a great guy. And I see, you know, people
like Ronnie Radk badmouthing the guy, and it's like, dude,
once you get to know Eddie, you realize that he's
one of the kindest, most gentle dudes. He's like a
general giant. He's such a nice guy. So I don't
like bad mouthing people. I don't like any of that stuff.
(26:51):
I don't. It didn't sit well with me. But hey,
it's an entertainment industry, man, it's you're gonna say the
wildest stuff and hey, some cloud So.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, well, I guess that goes back to before. Maybe
some people with face tattoos are not so nice, but
then you post Malone's a nice guy because he put
out put out good vibes. Yeah, I saw that. I
was like, you're hating on Eddie. I understand, like like
with me or anybody, if you're not a fan of somebody.
But yeah, if you're gonna say like nasty things, just whatever,
(27:21):
I don't want to I don't need to get that
guy any attention.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and uh and just like that, I like, dude,
I'm sure I've taken a picture with somebody that's less
than a stellar human being. I'm sure you know there's
but by association, just because of a picture. But to
what you're saying, Uh, dude, it's never too late.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I totally see you being the next Eddie Tronk. Dude.
Hell yeah, you should just push as hard as you can.
You'd be so good at it. You're one of the
best interviews I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So yeah, man, well, well, well thank you. We'll see
what Baby Brownstone brings to the table. I'll either make
him a producer or he'll be the co host that
helps me push me over the top.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
But regardless, I love doing it. I can't wait till
the next time I get to talk to you. So
that does for this episode of Appetite for Distortion?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
When will you see the next one?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
In the words of Axl Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know how soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thanks to the lame mass security.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'm going home.
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