August 9, 2024 • 23 mins
Live and Stone Temple Pilots have joined forces for the co-headlining "Jubilee Tour" and to celebrate the 30th anniversary of two of the most beloved albums of the 90s, "Throwing Copper" and “Purple.” Robert DeLeo from Stone Temple Pilots and Ed Kowalczyk from Live join to discuss this and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite
(00:32):
for Distortion, Episode number four hundred and sixty eight. Welcome
to the podcast, mister Robert de Leo and Ed Kohalchek.
How are you, guys, Ray, How are you man? I'm good.
I'm living the dream, I mean, my god, the soundtrack
of my youth right now, I'm talking to you right now,
Stone Temple, Pilots and Live. And before we get going,
(00:55):
let me just apologize. If you hear my one year
old in the background, he's playing with blocks. You know,
he's currently distracted by my wife, so hopefully if it
gets two out of handle will handle it. But that
actually but actually cool, and that actually lends itself to
my first question, because I hope not to make you
(01:15):
guys feel old, but when these two seminal albums came
out Throwing Cropper in Purple, I was eleven, I mean,
my god, the formative years. So I would love, as
we're celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of these landmark albums, if
you have like a specific when you hear someone talks
to you about that record, what's the first memory that
(01:37):
pops up for each of you during that time in
your careers. So maybe start with you, Robert, if you
don't mind.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, there's many different memories. There's high points and
low points, and there was a lot of It was
like a whirlwind, you know, thinking about that time. But
we finished the record and it came out and that's
what really matters. And looking I think one of the
high points now is is looking at it now at
(02:06):
this point in time, being able to celebrate thirty years
of that record and these records still in copper and purples.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's a that's a right now in the now is
a special moment for me.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right I say, nineteen ninety four and is one of
the best years obviously in my lifetime, but just in
general a certain rock and roll I mean again throwing Cropper,
and I mean it's could be the record for you,
I mean is I'm sure there's a lot of things
that go through your mind, but perhaps is there one
thing you're most proud of when you look back?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, a lot, so much. I mean, one of the
things I remember specifically, it's it's regarding are the song
Lightning Crashes because it's such a it's such a not
a not obvious single of five minutes twenty seconds long
and the chorus doesn't come in for two minutes, and
there's just such a strange song I had written, but
it was my favorite, and I you know, I felt
(03:00):
like it was this epic song landed about five songs
into the album, and I remember thinking, this, this is
going to be a song that people, I think are
really going to like it. I think they're really going
to know the band with this song. And I remember
universally being told by the record covery there's no way
and hell it'll ever be a single and it will
never come out. It's too long. And so that sticks
(03:20):
out to me because people ask, you know, hey, did
you have a sense of it, And I was like, yeah,
I actually did. I actually did have a sense of
that song being special, but no one else did. And
so you know, I love that because it really shows,
you know, it's such a.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Test to to the to the the ethos of like
you're just pushing and working and coming from the heart
and like being earnest and knowing that you know you've
got something going on and you just want to get
get it out there, and there's such there was such
a fire, such an.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Energy to the to the band, to the music, to
the whole period.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We were living in.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But yeah, that was my memory was like, oh, so
every time I play the song now it's it's up here,
I just it makes me smile because I know how
unlikely and magical all this really.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Was just a thing that record labels what do they know?
Just like what an iconic song that is and became unbelievable. Robert,
is there a song off Purple that specifically sticks out
for you, whether it be the one that was the
most challenging the record or your favorite, just as any
song that sticks out for whatever reason you may have.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, I think you know, we were we did a
fourteen month tour of Core and during that time being
on the road, some of those songs were written.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know. The one that really sticks out to me
is a Interstate love song. I really it started out
as a Bustinova song.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I wrote that in the back of the RV
heading down the highway, hence the name of Interstate Love Song.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But that one, you know, I think I had a
lot to say. Well, I had a lot to say
on that song.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think it was maybe in a way trying to
top plush. You know, I had that pressure of writing
something that was going to be I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I don't know if it is good.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't really judge songs, especially my own, but just
the experience of being in that moment with Scott and
Dean and Eric and creating that record was here we
are thirty years later.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I just interstate Love Song and Lightning Crashes and the
fact that I'm talking about these songs now that they
are still in my regular rotation, these albums still in
my regular rotation, and of course we're also you're not
just talking about the thirtieth anniversary, but this Megator that
I wish was a little bit closer to me. The
closest date is Jersey because I'm in Queen's right now
(05:42):
because I got to start taking my son to concerts
and this would be a perfect one. But I digress
A Stone Table, Pilot, Live, Soul Asylum, and Our Lady Peace.
I'm a fan of all these bands.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So great.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
How, I actually say, how when did you two first meet?
I imagine it wasn't recently with this tour, was it
back in the day on tour was in on a woodstock?
When did you guys first become you know, friends.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
We probably met for the first time. We played live
and Stone table Pipes played together in San Diego the
Streets San Diego Street Scene Festival. I think it was
maybe ninety eight, ninety ninves and I I'm sure we
met then, but then we didn't see each other again.
I think we played also the Rolling Rock Festival Western Pennsylvania,
(06:35):
but we never toured together. And but I was always
a massive fan and we were together. Last year we
performed together for a special event out in Napa, California,
and we all reconnected and by the end of the
by the end of the night, we we were pretty
sure we were going to tour together. And then two
(06:55):
weeks later they that actually, you know, it was put
together or whatever. It happened pretty quickly, but you know,
it was just really natural and organic the way it happened.
I couldn't be half here.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I love that. Do you guys have matching cowboy hats
are now? Or is that just a Robert thing?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh you know it. I'm saving mine for the tour.
I got three or four buckets upstairs.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You guys are cheating on I'm three hours before so
I had to wake up at seven am, so I
put on my hand because you don't want to see
the other day at seven am, anyone does.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, thank you Robert for getting up early.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
This.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I really appreciate this. I understand. I guess shaved my hats.
That's why I'm allowing you to see me without the hat. Hey,
I got you. I couldn't do the I can never
do the rat tail. I don't know. I was never
that cool to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Skip it, skip it, Okay, high maintenance.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay, I don't think my wife would.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Like hard to get back there, that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You would never think. Let me ask because I know
I only have you here for a few more minutes.
And I don't know if you could tell. But the
name of the podcast Appetite for distortion, my son screaming
in the background, like Axel Rose or the Guns of
Roses posters. I do a six degrees of gn R
Bacon with this podcast, like connecting the Dots instead of
(08:14):
just a normal rock podcast. Things like that. So with
ed you played with Slash in two thousand and three
at Peace on the Beach to cover John lebas Imagine,
which is on YouTube. If somebody hasn't seen it beautiful rendition.
How did that come about? And tell me about the
experience please.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Oh my gosh, it was so awesome. It was. Yeah,
it was a peace concert, you know. And I can
remember I got a phone call, Hey, just show up
in Venice. We're throwing up a stage. You know, we're
going to have a peace concert and you come see
Imagine or something. Just come And I remember I, you know,
(08:54):
it said, Okay, I just showed up down there in
Venice on the beach, and before I knew it, it
was like, oh, and just going to play it with you.
And I met him, and I think twenty minutes later
we were on stage singing Imagine together and he was
playing playing guitar. And he's my favorite, if not my
favorite guitar all time, one of them for sure. He's
such an amazing person and such a melotic player, just
(09:17):
mind blowing. Yeah, and I did see that. Someone sent
me the YouTube clip a few years ago, and I
think I did have my tail. Yeah, we brought I
brought the tale back then, so that was probably one
of the last times you ever saw it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's funny. Yeah, I was watching the video yesterday. I
was like, oh, he's still in the tail. Then I
thought it's been gone for a while, and he was
nice and we won't go there. Memories. Yeah, you said
it's hard to upkeep. And Robert, I know you performed
with Slash many a time. But this is coming from
a listener. I wish I could get all my listener
questions in, but I know we got a bounce in
(09:52):
a moment. This is from Chad Bruce. You know Slash
obviously not just with GNR, but with Velvet Revolver. So
I would love to know your opinion when Scott was
in Velvet and what you thought of that band, a
Velvet Revolver, and what was maybe going through your head
and that was going on.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oh man, those guys are all friends, and to see
them musically get together and do that, I mean it
was at a time when I think Scott, you know,
needed to do something different and uh, yeah, we're all friends.
I mean, you know, everybody talks about Slash's guitar playing,
and I always think to him as being one of
the nicest human beings I know. I mean we talk
(10:31):
every once in a while and he's always a sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I love him. He's great, great person.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And we get to share the stage, you know, whether
it's with Aerosmith or Joe Perry or Phil Collin, we just,
you know, whatever, we always we always have a great time.
We always appreciate each other's talents. It's it's it's it's great.
It's great great moments.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, this was a great moment for me, Ed Robert.
Thank you guys so much. I hope we get to
do this thing again, and just thank you for all
the music throughout the years. You're both legends icons and
keep doing what you're doing, and one day me and
Baby Brownstone will see you guys in concert. Absolutely, thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Man, you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Take care of have a good day, Take care of man.
I just realized that if I say Baby Brownstone at
the context, they probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
So yeah, I mean, obviously you know Baby Brownstone. Harrison Rex,
my son, fifteen months old. Hopefully he wasn't screaming too
much in the background, because that probably doesn't make for
(11:34):
a wonderful listening experience. But I was told that because
I haven't listened to the episode yet, but I was
told by my coworker Mike, who's doing that radio tour.
I've explained that at nause in might think by this
point of the podcast. He told me after during our meeting,
when he was talking about the entire tour with my
boss and out the coworkers and he asked how that
(11:56):
tour went, He's like, yeah, it went really well. Both
of them were extremely nice. But they really love Brandon.
I mean, they love the fact that his baby was there. Hey,
So I mean, I love him. But if he adds
to my interview and it makes my guests happy, that's
a bonus. Even when he's not physically on camera, just
(12:16):
his presence can be felt through the screen. This was
a bucket list that I never expected. I mean, especially
Robert Delio, I mean Ankle Walchek absolutely. I mean again,
nineteen ninety four, I was eleven years old talking about
formative years of just music in rock and roll and
(12:36):
what I would become because Guns of Roses, obviously, but
ninety four they were already essentially broken up, the spaghetti
incident already came out. They kind of lived their life already,
and obviously I became a fan and would go back.
But growing up and you have these living, breathing bands
(12:57):
that are really just in their prime, like Stone Temple
Pilots and live and moments like this talking to them,
it's just you realize, Wow, I've been listening to these
guys for my entire life, and you meet them and
they're really nice. They're really cool. So that was just
(13:18):
a special moment. I hope, of course, I hope next
time it goes for longer. But happy with the time spent,
happy to get him on and especially lifting up the curtain.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention this because
I've spoke about this at nauseum, maybe too much. But
with the the challenges of getting Duff on the podcast
(13:39):
in the past and Slash recently with Orgy of the Damned,
I've told you the stories. I'll condense it a little
bit now that I was turned down by their radio
rep even though it was through my job, just like
this one, which doesn't guarantee me anything. But I was
turned down because I'm appetite for distortion and that could
be deemed as negative. Worried to go back to Duff
(14:04):
and Slash with a list of stations they're going to
be interviewing with, and if they don't know who I am,
appetite for distortion. What is this then that makes that
rep look bad? I mean it sounds maybe overreacting, but
at the same time, if what he has expressed to me,
he's been in that position before and it's not fun.
(14:24):
So I gotta respect he's doing his job. As much
as it hurts my feelings, as much as like I
don't deserve anything, but maybe I finally earned it. Whatever feelings,
it's kind of okay. That's his decision. The reason I
bring that up now, that same guy no pushback at all.
He put on this tour. He allowed me to interview
(14:46):
Robert and Ed, so who knows. Maybe this was just
like it's always been in my head. This guy was
always like, I'm sorry, I just can't have you interview
Guns and Roses guys right now, maybe until they promote
something Guns and Roses, And in my head, I'm thinking
I'm being blackballed or turned down because I'm just a
(15:06):
silly little podcast or something like that. That's all in
my head. I guess, no pushback, but fine. Interview wasn't fine,
And you heard my gen R related questions. They were
really nothing, even what could have maybe been an issue
asking Robert about Velvet Revolver was a non issue because
(15:27):
you just don't know where he's gonna go with Scott.
But that was all positive, so did no where he's there.
So that was just a fun, fun episode and unexpected.
I was like expecting to be turned down and I wasn't.
I wasn't, and I'm excited that all of you were
really excited for it. Again, I wish it was longer,
but you never know. I think it was. It's like,
(15:49):
here's an example, which is going to be the next
episode Michael Shanker. Michael Shanker, I had on about five
years ago, and I think I only had him for
ten minutes now because that was through my job. Uh,
it's already in the can, so I know how long
I spoke to him before, about twenty five minutes, a
half an hour I recorded it. It's done and you're
(16:12):
gonna hear Michael Shanker. I don't know if it's good.
It might be next episode or the one after. Probably
next episode talk all about Axel Rose's contribution to his record.
You're gonna get all that information, so I don't think.
I hope it's not gonna be five years before I
interviewed Kawalchek and Robert Delao again. But it's just laying
a path and me building a continuing to build us,
(16:34):
continuing to build a resume of who's on this podcast,
what we can do, and getting bigger and better guests.
And it's just a lot of fun for me, as
it is hopefully for you. You guys make it fun for me,
because then nobody listened, I wouldn't be doing this, So
thank you. And while on that note, last episode that
I dedicated to Lucy Blue Knight and spoke about the
(16:58):
loss of Slash's stepdaughter and and you know, talk about
my experiences with losing my dad to depression. You know,
it's when something like that happens in pop culture, it
always affects me. How can it not? And since I'm
a radio guy, I just want to talk or you
see a lot of misconceptions when misguided conversations happening online,
(17:20):
and you just want to talk. But who's going to listen?
That's what I tell myself, despite being in radio for
twenty plus years, I'm like, who's going to listen to me?
Who cares? So when I initially put out a comment
on social media that I was thinking about doing this,
and that support that you gave me gave me the
courage to do it, to record forty five minutes of
(17:40):
myself talking about my feelings and our feelings and everything.
And I was happy with it. I mean, I slept
on it thinking maybe I should I redo it, should
I add more to it? No, just don't Chinese democracy
it just leave it as is. And I put it
(18:00):
out and just the response from you has been so
overwhelmingly positive and good. So thank you. If I've helped you,
if you just learn more about me, and you just
your care about my story, thank you. It was just
it was good to get that off my chest, and
(18:21):
I'm glad that it's out there. So I'm glad that
I did that episode. I wish I was. I'm sorry
I had to be under the circumstances. But we will
talk about mental health, continued to do so as much
as we talk about guns and roses. Maybe not as
but enough when it's appropriate, and we're going to continue
to talk about it. It's not going anywhere. We're going
to continue to fight this stigma to try to survive
(18:44):
this crazy world. And that's what this podcast is all about.
While we talk about mental health, orhen we talk about
rock and roll and guns and roses. Whatever. You are
joining me here an appetite for distortion, to get away
from all life's bullshit and have fun. Okay, So the
conversation continues in between the broadcasts on social media Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
(19:05):
all that fun stuff. New website afdpod dot com. You
can find old episodes. You can read articles I've put up,
whether they're from my interviews that other people wrote like
Ultimate Classic Rock or Loudwire, or interviews or articles that
I've written. I should say I reposted an old I
(19:27):
don't even say it's like a review. Actually, Dave Kushner
kind of laughed at me on Instagram because I tagged him.
I wrote in my experience at Velvet Revolver for two
thousand and four when I saw them for the first time,
and I still have access to my live journal back then,
So I decided to put that up on afdpod dot
com with some of my old pictures and that I
(19:48):
took from back then. And Dave Kushner, of course from
Velvet Revolver, commented, He's like, this is funny for two reasons. One,
I remember that I had to invite my wife's tire
family to that show because they were from Jersey. And
he's like, this really isn't a review, it's more about
your experience. I'm like, all right, fine, you're talking to
(20:10):
twenty early twenties Branda writing in his EMO live journal,
I wasn't thinking that it's ever be like public one day,
so things like that I interviewed. Excuse me, I wrote
about Slash's Orgy of the Damned, so there's a review
up there. And speaking of which, I'm either going to
put an article up just like I did with Orgie
of the Damned, or I'll do a podcast review of
(20:33):
going to the show. It did not rain. Wait, I'll
give you a sneak preview of what I want to say.
It rained earlier in the day. It probably it's what
caused us to miss Robert Randolph and zz Ward so
we didn't see them. However, zz Ward future guests and
appetite for distortion, so sticking around for that. I didn't
(20:55):
get a chance to see her live, but I will
get a chance to interview her. Got a chance to
see the legendary keV Mo. Wow. Is he good? Wow?
Is his band good? The crowd was eating him up.
And then Slash was incredible, the band Teddy zig Zag,
everybody was incredible. Just an amazing time. And I hope
it's not just a one summer thing that this is,
(21:18):
you know, the blues version of the Warped Tour for
you know, for a while or something like that. I'll
break down a full review again, either on the podcast
or on afdpod dot com. So stick around for that.
And so when does that come in one of these
new next episodes with z z Ward and Michael Shanker
and maybe, just maybe Dave Kushner will be back on
(21:41):
the podcast. It's been a few years and he I'm
hoping zoom if it happens. Oh and I also something
that I never I keep forgetting to mention this because
I said this, like I don't know how many episodes ago,
I was trying to mess with like maybe the distribution
of the audio portion of the podcast and was going
to get rid of it on SoundCloud and do something else.
(22:03):
X nay. If if you remember that we're up on SoundCloud,
we should be up on every platform. If we're up
on a platform that were that you would like us
to be on, just let me know. Uh. And also
I had mentioned a while ago that I got two
yes's for interviews, and sometimes this is frustrating. It's it's
(22:23):
frustrating like when you ask out a girl and you
just overthink it until it finally happens. And this is
kind of what's happening with Dave Kushner. I'm like, you
said yes, but I know you're busy and I'm not
getting like a set date. But I think it's going
to happen now. It's just has taken a long time
since the initial yes. The same thing I'm hoping to
(22:44):
get Nicohon Shannon Huns, the late Shannon Hun's daughter, back
on the podcast, and I was reached out to by
someone representing Rod Jackson. Sorry Rod Jackson. Uh, it's it's
been a more so Rod Jackson of course from a
Slash the Snake Pit, I don't really know. I think
(23:05):
he's working on a new record. It was somebody else
on his behalf that said Rod wants to come back
on the podcast. And this was a few months ago
and I haven't really gotten an update since. So Rod Jackson,
hopefully nic Ohon, hopefully, Dave Kushner, hopefully zz Ward is confirmed,
and Michael Shanker is in the camp. So that's at
(23:29):
least what's to come on the podcast. So when we
see all that in the words of ax Orose concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Thanks to the lame ass security, I'm going home.
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite
(00:32):
for Distortion, Episode number four hundred and sixty eight. Welcome
to the podcast, mister Robert de Leo and Ed Kohalchek.
How are you, guys, Ray, How are you man? I'm good.
I'm living the dream, I mean, my god, the soundtrack
of my youth right now, I'm talking to you right now,
Stone Temple, Pilots and Live. And before we get going,
(00:55):
let me just apologize. If you hear my one year
old in the background, he's playing with blocks. You know,
he's currently distracted by my wife, so hopefully if it
gets two out of handle will handle it. But that
actually but actually cool, and that actually lends itself to
my first question, because I hope not to make you
(01:15):
guys feel old, but when these two seminal albums came
out Throwing Cropper in Purple, I was eleven, I mean,
my god, the formative years. So I would love, as
we're celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of these landmark albums, if
you have like a specific when you hear someone talks
to you about that record, what's the first memory that
(01:37):
pops up for each of you during that time in
your careers. So maybe start with you, Robert, if you
don't mind.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, there's many different memories. There's high points and
low points, and there was a lot of It was
like a whirlwind, you know, thinking about that time. But
we finished the record and it came out and that's
what really matters. And looking I think one of the
high points now is is looking at it now at
(02:06):
this point in time, being able to celebrate thirty years
of that record and these records still in copper and purples.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's a that's a right now in the now is
a special moment for me.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right I say, nineteen ninety four and is one of
the best years obviously in my lifetime, but just in
general a certain rock and roll I mean again throwing Cropper,
and I mean it's could be the record for you,
I mean is I'm sure there's a lot of things
that go through your mind, but perhaps is there one
thing you're most proud of when you look back?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, a lot, so much. I mean, one of the
things I remember specifically, it's it's regarding are the song
Lightning Crashes because it's such a it's such a not
a not obvious single of five minutes twenty seconds long
and the chorus doesn't come in for two minutes, and
there's just such a strange song I had written, but
it was my favorite, and I you know, I felt
(03:00):
like it was this epic song landed about five songs
into the album, and I remember thinking, this, this is
going to be a song that people, I think are
really going to like it. I think they're really going
to know the band with this song. And I remember
universally being told by the record covery there's no way
and hell it'll ever be a single and it will
never come out. It's too long. And so that sticks
(03:20):
out to me because people ask, you know, hey, did
you have a sense of it, And I was like, yeah,
I actually did. I actually did have a sense of
that song being special, but no one else did. And
so you know, I love that because it really shows,
you know, it's such a.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Test to to the to the the ethos of like
you're just pushing and working and coming from the heart
and like being earnest and knowing that you know you've
got something going on and you just want to get
get it out there, and there's such there was such
a fire, such an.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Energy to the to the band, to the music, to
the whole period.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We were living in.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But yeah, that was my memory was like, oh, so
every time I play the song now it's it's up here,
I just it makes me smile because I know how
unlikely and magical all this really.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Was just a thing that record labels what do they know?
Just like what an iconic song that is and became unbelievable. Robert,
is there a song off Purple that specifically sticks out
for you, whether it be the one that was the
most challenging the record or your favorite, just as any
song that sticks out for whatever reason you may have.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, I think you know, we were we did a
fourteen month tour of Core and during that time being
on the road, some of those songs were written.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know. The one that really sticks out to me
is a Interstate love song. I really it started out
as a Bustinova song.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I wrote that in the back of the RV
heading down the highway, hence the name of Interstate Love Song.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But that one, you know, I think I had a
lot to say. Well, I had a lot to say
on that song.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think it was maybe in a way trying to
top plush. You know, I had that pressure of writing
something that was going to be I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I don't know if it is good.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't really judge songs, especially my own, but just
the experience of being in that moment with Scott and
Dean and Eric and creating that record was here we
are thirty years later.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I just interstate Love Song and Lightning Crashes and the
fact that I'm talking about these songs now that they
are still in my regular rotation, these albums still in
my regular rotation, and of course we're also you're not
just talking about the thirtieth anniversary, but this Megator that
I wish was a little bit closer to me. The
closest date is Jersey because I'm in Queen's right now
(05:42):
because I got to start taking my son to concerts
and this would be a perfect one. But I digress
A Stone Table, Pilot, Live, Soul Asylum, and Our Lady Peace.
I'm a fan of all these bands.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So great.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
How, I actually say, how when did you two first meet?
I imagine it wasn't recently with this tour, was it
back in the day on tour was in on a woodstock?
When did you guys first become you know, friends.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
We probably met for the first time. We played live
and Stone table Pipes played together in San Diego the
Streets San Diego Street Scene Festival. I think it was
maybe ninety eight, ninety ninves and I I'm sure we
met then, but then we didn't see each other again.
I think we played also the Rolling Rock Festival Western Pennsylvania,
(06:35):
but we never toured together. And but I was always
a massive fan and we were together. Last year we
performed together for a special event out in Napa, California,
and we all reconnected and by the end of the
by the end of the night, we we were pretty
sure we were going to tour together. And then two
(06:55):
weeks later they that actually, you know, it was put
together or whatever. It happened pretty quickly, but you know,
it was just really natural and organic the way it happened.
I couldn't be half here.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I love that. Do you guys have matching cowboy hats
are now? Or is that just a Robert thing?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh you know it. I'm saving mine for the tour.
I got three or four buckets upstairs.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You guys are cheating on I'm three hours before so
I had to wake up at seven am, so I
put on my hand because you don't want to see
the other day at seven am, anyone does.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, thank you Robert for getting up early.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
This.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I really appreciate this. I understand. I guess shaved my hats.
That's why I'm allowing you to see me without the hat. Hey,
I got you. I couldn't do the I can never
do the rat tail. I don't know. I was never
that cool to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Skip it, skip it, Okay, high maintenance.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay, I don't think my wife would.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Like hard to get back there, that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You would never think. Let me ask because I know
I only have you here for a few more minutes.
And I don't know if you could tell. But the
name of the podcast Appetite for distortion, my son screaming
in the background, like Axel Rose or the Guns of
Roses posters. I do a six degrees of gn R
Bacon with this podcast, like connecting the Dots instead of
(08:14):
just a normal rock podcast. Things like that. So with
ed you played with Slash in two thousand and three
at Peace on the Beach to cover John lebas Imagine,
which is on YouTube. If somebody hasn't seen it beautiful rendition.
How did that come about? And tell me about the
experience please.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Oh my gosh, it was so awesome. It was. Yeah,
it was a peace concert, you know. And I can
remember I got a phone call, Hey, just show up
in Venice. We're throwing up a stage. You know, we're
going to have a peace concert and you come see
Imagine or something. Just come And I remember I, you know,
(08:54):
it said, Okay, I just showed up down there in
Venice on the beach, and before I knew it, it
was like, oh, and just going to play it with you.
And I met him, and I think twenty minutes later
we were on stage singing Imagine together and he was
playing playing guitar. And he's my favorite, if not my
favorite guitar all time, one of them for sure. He's
such an amazing person and such a melotic player, just
(09:17):
mind blowing. Yeah, and I did see that. Someone sent
me the YouTube clip a few years ago, and I
think I did have my tail. Yeah, we brought I
brought the tale back then, so that was probably one
of the last times you ever saw it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's funny. Yeah, I was watching the video yesterday. I
was like, oh, he's still in the tail. Then I
thought it's been gone for a while, and he was
nice and we won't go there. Memories. Yeah, you said
it's hard to upkeep. And Robert, I know you performed
with Slash many a time. But this is coming from
a listener. I wish I could get all my listener
questions in, but I know we got a bounce in
(09:52):
a moment. This is from Chad Bruce. You know Slash
obviously not just with GNR, but with Velvet Revolver. So
I would love to know your opinion when Scott was
in Velvet and what you thought of that band, a
Velvet Revolver, and what was maybe going through your head
and that was going on.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oh man, those guys are all friends, and to see
them musically get together and do that, I mean it
was at a time when I think Scott, you know,
needed to do something different and uh, yeah, we're all friends.
I mean, you know, everybody talks about Slash's guitar playing,
and I always think to him as being one of
the nicest human beings I know. I mean we talk
(10:31):
every once in a while and he's always a sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I love him. He's great, great person.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And we get to share the stage, you know, whether
it's with Aerosmith or Joe Perry or Phil Collin, we just,
you know, whatever, we always we always have a great time.
We always appreciate each other's talents. It's it's it's it's great.
It's great great moments.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, this was a great moment for me, Ed Robert.
Thank you guys so much. I hope we get to
do this thing again, and just thank you for all
the music throughout the years. You're both legends icons and
keep doing what you're doing, and one day me and
Baby Brownstone will see you guys in concert. Absolutely, thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Man, you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Take care of have a good day, Take care of man.
I just realized that if I say Baby Brownstone at
the context, they probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
So yeah, I mean, obviously you know Baby Brownstone. Harrison Rex,
my son, fifteen months old. Hopefully he wasn't screaming too
much in the background, because that probably doesn't make for
(11:34):
a wonderful listening experience. But I was told that because
I haven't listened to the episode yet, but I was
told by my coworker Mike, who's doing that radio tour.
I've explained that at nause in might think by this
point of the podcast. He told me after during our meeting,
when he was talking about the entire tour with my
boss and out the coworkers and he asked how that
(11:56):
tour went, He's like, yeah, it went really well. Both
of them were extremely nice. But they really love Brandon.
I mean, they love the fact that his baby was there. Hey,
So I mean, I love him. But if he adds
to my interview and it makes my guests happy, that's
a bonus. Even when he's not physically on camera, just
(12:16):
his presence can be felt through the screen. This was
a bucket list that I never expected. I mean, especially
Robert Delio, I mean Ankle Walchek absolutely. I mean again,
nineteen ninety four, I was eleven years old talking about
formative years of just music in rock and roll and
(12:36):
what I would become because Guns of Roses, obviously, but
ninety four they were already essentially broken up, the spaghetti
incident already came out. They kind of lived their life already,
and obviously I became a fan and would go back.
But growing up and you have these living, breathing bands
(12:57):
that are really just in their prime, like Stone Temple
Pilots and live and moments like this talking to them,
it's just you realize, Wow, I've been listening to these
guys for my entire life, and you meet them and
they're really nice. They're really cool. So that was just
(13:18):
a special moment. I hope, of course, I hope next
time it goes for longer. But happy with the time spent,
happy to get him on and especially lifting up the curtain.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention this because
I've spoke about this at nauseum, maybe too much. But
with the the challenges of getting Duff on the podcast
(13:39):
in the past and Slash recently with Orgy of the Damned,
I've told you the stories. I'll condense it a little
bit now that I was turned down by their radio
rep even though it was through my job, just like
this one, which doesn't guarantee me anything. But I was
turned down because I'm appetite for distortion and that could
be deemed as negative. Worried to go back to Duff
(14:04):
and Slash with a list of stations they're going to
be interviewing with, and if they don't know who I am,
appetite for distortion. What is this then that makes that
rep look bad? I mean it sounds maybe overreacting, but
at the same time, if what he has expressed to me,
he's been in that position before and it's not fun.
(14:24):
So I gotta respect he's doing his job. As much
as it hurts my feelings, as much as like I
don't deserve anything, but maybe I finally earned it. Whatever feelings,
it's kind of okay. That's his decision. The reason I
bring that up now, that same guy no pushback at all.
He put on this tour. He allowed me to interview
(14:46):
Robert and Ed, so who knows. Maybe this was just
like it's always been in my head. This guy was
always like, I'm sorry, I just can't have you interview
Guns and Roses guys right now, maybe until they promote
something Guns and Roses, And in my head, I'm thinking
I'm being blackballed or turned down because I'm just a
(15:06):
silly little podcast or something like that. That's all in
my head. I guess, no pushback, but fine. Interview wasn't fine,
And you heard my gen R related questions. They were
really nothing, even what could have maybe been an issue
asking Robert about Velvet Revolver was a non issue because
(15:27):
you just don't know where he's gonna go with Scott.
But that was all positive, so did no where he's there.
So that was just a fun, fun episode and unexpected.
I was like expecting to be turned down and I wasn't.
I wasn't, and I'm excited that all of you were
really excited for it. Again, I wish it was longer,
but you never know. I think it was. It's like,
(15:49):
here's an example, which is going to be the next
episode Michael Shanker. Michael Shanker, I had on about five
years ago, and I think I only had him for
ten minutes now because that was through my job. Uh,
it's already in the can, so I know how long
I spoke to him before, about twenty five minutes, a
half an hour I recorded it. It's done and you're
(16:12):
gonna hear Michael Shanker. I don't know if it's good.
It might be next episode or the one after. Probably
next episode talk all about Axel Rose's contribution to his record.
You're gonna get all that information, so I don't think.
I hope it's not gonna be five years before I
interviewed Kawalchek and Robert Delao again. But it's just laying
a path and me building a continuing to build us,
(16:34):
continuing to build a resume of who's on this podcast,
what we can do, and getting bigger and better guests.
And it's just a lot of fun for me, as
it is hopefully for you. You guys make it fun for me,
because then nobody listened, I wouldn't be doing this, So
thank you. And while on that note, last episode that
I dedicated to Lucy Blue Knight and spoke about the
(16:58):
loss of Slash's stepdaughter and and you know, talk about
my experiences with losing my dad to depression. You know,
it's when something like that happens in pop culture, it
always affects me. How can it not? And since I'm
a radio guy, I just want to talk or you
see a lot of misconceptions when misguided conversations happening online,
(17:20):
and you just want to talk. But who's going to listen?
That's what I tell myself, despite being in radio for
twenty plus years, I'm like, who's going to listen to me?
Who cares? So when I initially put out a comment
on social media that I was thinking about doing this,
and that support that you gave me gave me the
courage to do it, to record forty five minutes of
(17:40):
myself talking about my feelings and our feelings and everything.
And I was happy with it. I mean, I slept
on it thinking maybe I should I redo it, should
I add more to it? No, just don't Chinese democracy
it just leave it as is. And I put it
(18:00):
out and just the response from you has been so
overwhelmingly positive and good. So thank you. If I've helped you,
if you just learn more about me, and you just
your care about my story, thank you. It was just
it was good to get that off my chest, and
(18:21):
I'm glad that it's out there. So I'm glad that
I did that episode. I wish I was. I'm sorry
I had to be under the circumstances. But we will
talk about mental health, continued to do so as much
as we talk about guns and roses. Maybe not as
but enough when it's appropriate, and we're going to continue
to talk about it. It's not going anywhere. We're going
to continue to fight this stigma to try to survive
(18:44):
this crazy world. And that's what this podcast is all about.
While we talk about mental health, orhen we talk about
rock and roll and guns and roses. Whatever. You are
joining me here an appetite for distortion, to get away
from all life's bullshit and have fun. Okay, So the
conversation continues in between the broadcasts on social media Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
(19:05):
all that fun stuff. New website afdpod dot com. You
can find old episodes. You can read articles I've put up,
whether they're from my interviews that other people wrote like
Ultimate Classic Rock or Loudwire, or interviews or articles that
I've written. I should say I reposted an old I
(19:27):
don't even say it's like a review. Actually, Dave Kushner
kind of laughed at me on Instagram because I tagged him.
I wrote in my experience at Velvet Revolver for two
thousand and four when I saw them for the first time,
and I still have access to my live journal back then,
So I decided to put that up on afdpod dot
com with some of my old pictures and that I
(19:48):
took from back then. And Dave Kushner, of course from
Velvet Revolver, commented, He's like, this is funny for two reasons. One,
I remember that I had to invite my wife's tire
family to that show because they were from Jersey. And
he's like, this really isn't a review, it's more about
your experience. I'm like, all right, fine, you're talking to
(20:10):
twenty early twenties Branda writing in his EMO live journal,
I wasn't thinking that it's ever be like public one day,
so things like that I interviewed. Excuse me, I wrote
about Slash's Orgy of the Damned, so there's a review
up there. And speaking of which, I'm either going to
put an article up just like I did with Orgie
of the Damned, or I'll do a podcast review of
(20:33):
going to the show. It did not rain. Wait, I'll
give you a sneak preview of what I want to say.
It rained earlier in the day. It probably it's what
caused us to miss Robert Randolph and zz Ward so
we didn't see them. However, zz Ward future guests and
appetite for distortion, so sticking around for that. I didn't
(20:55):
get a chance to see her live, but I will
get a chance to interview her. Got a chance to
see the legendary keV Mo. Wow. Is he good? Wow?
Is his band good? The crowd was eating him up.
And then Slash was incredible, the band Teddy zig Zag,
everybody was incredible. Just an amazing time. And I hope
it's not just a one summer thing that this is,
(21:18):
you know, the blues version of the Warped Tour for
you know, for a while or something like that. I'll
break down a full review again, either on the podcast
or on afdpod dot com. So stick around for that.
And so when does that come in one of these
new next episodes with z z Ward and Michael Shanker
and maybe, just maybe Dave Kushner will be back on
(21:41):
the podcast. It's been a few years and he I'm
hoping zoom if it happens. Oh and I also something
that I never I keep forgetting to mention this because
I said this, like I don't know how many episodes ago,
I was trying to mess with like maybe the distribution
of the audio portion of the podcast and was going
to get rid of it on SoundCloud and do something else.
(22:03):
X nay. If if you remember that we're up on SoundCloud,
we should be up on every platform. If we're up
on a platform that were that you would like us
to be on, just let me know. Uh. And also
I had mentioned a while ago that I got two
yes's for interviews, and sometimes this is frustrating. It's it's
(22:23):
frustrating like when you ask out a girl and you
just overthink it until it finally happens. And this is
kind of what's happening with Dave Kushner. I'm like, you
said yes, but I know you're busy and I'm not
getting like a set date. But I think it's going
to happen now. It's just has taken a long time
since the initial yes. The same thing I'm hoping to
(22:44):
get Nicohon Shannon Huns, the late Shannon Hun's daughter, back
on the podcast, and I was reached out to by
someone representing Rod Jackson. Sorry Rod Jackson. Uh, it's it's
been a more so Rod Jackson of course from a
Slash the Snake Pit, I don't really know. I think
(23:05):
he's working on a new record. It was somebody else
on his behalf that said Rod wants to come back
on the podcast. And this was a few months ago
and I haven't really gotten an update since. So Rod Jackson,
hopefully nic Ohon, hopefully, Dave Kushner, hopefully zz Ward is confirmed,
and Michael Shanker is in the camp. So that's at
(23:29):
least what's to come on the podcast. So when we
see all that in the words of ax Orose concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Thanks to the lame ass security, I'm going home.
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