Street Child O' Mine: When Guiliette met Izzy | Ep. 544

Guiliette Jimaa, a make-up & hair artist from Germany, takes us back to 1987 when a soon-to-be famous Guns N' Roses played Dusseldorf. It was there Izzy Stradlin came into her life. A sweet tale of romance, cultural barriers, and Nutella, Guiliette shares her story (and pictures) for the first time.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
When I saw easy grabbed this glass of nutella, and
I was like, here, you can have my number.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion. My name is Brando.
Episode number five hundred and forty four. Welcome to the podcast.
Juliette Ima seen.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Last Yes, Jimma, Julia.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I was so close.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
You said good? Actually, some people say Yima, my mom
actually does, and some people say gimma, Gimma. Okay, well, yeah,
you're good. You're good.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Likewise, and who else are you meeting? Who's your little friends?
Your dog that you just had?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, that was that's Ivy. She's a She's an Instagram star.
I'm just kidding. She has like thirty followers.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Kind of dog is she? Because I know we like
in case if you're listening on her on the it's
what we're talking about dogs right away on gine our podcast.
This is how we're going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Because we all love dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
We all love dogs, we all love well, I think
we all love baby Brownstone, my two and a half
year olds in the back. I've gotten some haters.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
She loves dogs. You know. Ivy is a really good
dog with babies and little kids. She loves them.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Harrison's gotten really good. He's gotten really good with pets,
and we're going to get another cat. We had three cats,
but they were all elder so they all kind of
they all passed away before you can really appreciate them.
So we'll get them. We'll get them a cat because
I'm allergic to dogs. I'm even allergic to cats.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
But Poola doesn't esport people who are allergic.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I grew up with the toy purl.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, anyway, we're getting to see. This is how I
You're like worried about having to fill half an hour conversation.
I was like with me, I didn't expect to talk
about dogs first. Well, the reason why we're having Juliette
on because she is a hair and makeup artist and
it's not something that I'm bald, and you know, I

(02:12):
don't know. Maybe you can give me some makeup tips.
But we have to send out a thank you to
some people to because I want to get your story
here and how of course it relates to guns and
roses and specifically Izzy Stradlin. So I wish, for the
life of me, I can remember the name of the
listeners who both sent me your very first interview that

(02:32):
you just did. So thank you to those listeners. You
know who you are. Thank you. But your friend, you
just an interview with your friend who goes back to
like worked at the Viper Room, right, is that where
she was?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Why? Yeah? Yeah, yeah Christine at Why would Christine? She
was the house photographer of the Viper Room and a
great friend of mine. She's so cool, and she invited
me to do this little podcast with her, and I
can't believe someone saw it. I mean I didn't even

(03:07):
you know, I didn't even think anyone would be interested
in what I have to say.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
That not the case, not the case at all. And
because I want to give her a podcast a shot
up before we get to it, because a lots more
makeup and hair talk on there. If that's what you're
interested in, why comma with Christine so you can look
it up there and Juliette's episode number twenty five for her.
So I had some listeners say tag and give a

(03:36):
timestamp easy. This is where she talks about is yeah
yeah in the comment section.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
That is funny. I didn't even mention that a lot,
did I you.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Brought it up, So we'll get into it. Because I
want to learn more about you, and this is how
I do things here. I know the frustration to some
not jumping totally into the GNR stuff. But you had
mentioned Izzy as far as when you came to America,
why you came to America, and your time on the tour.
You know it was eighty eight eighty nine tour. I

(04:08):
think you spoke about your time on the set of
the Sweet Child the Mind video. Yeah, the fact that
you're still talk to Slash and Megan Slash. You know what,
this is a good way to set everything up. Let's
throw it to Slash. Okay, and just not to confuse anybody,
Slashes not on this podcast, but this was I think

(04:29):
via your social media that you were backstage with Slash
when he was going through your your hopeful book. Tell
us about the book, and maybe you want to set
up this clip with Slash and you're talking. Can you
set that up for us?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, sure, so I wrote this make I mean, okay, wait,
where do we start? First of all, everything I'd like
to say up front, I know it's their story, but
in a way it's my story too. Okay, So when

(05:04):
I when I I don't even know where to start. Wait,
let me think you want to go straight into.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Make up thing, Well, I guess this is a clip
because and then I'll help you set it up. So
this clip is where's the show that you want to
to go with this slash?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
And we did that clip a little while ago. I've
been working on this book on how to It's called
Matt or Glossy, how to become a hair and makeup
artist and a stylist in the fashion and entertainment industry,
or more like how to survive that fucking industry basically,
And and I had I had written it and in German,

(05:48):
and then I had a friend of mine and helped
me with graphic and layout and stuff. And so we
did like a little pre print thing that was only
like fifty pages. And I and there was a show
now that it's a while ago, I think it was
with my mom. We went to we went to see

(06:10):
gonz and hanover and my mom actually filmed that thing
with Slash and yeah and yeah, I just I just
so I kept telling him about it, and then when
I saw him, I was like, heyre, can we do
you know, please help me like I am and of course,

(06:34):
you know.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
All right, perfect set up then so shot by you know,
here's Juliette was slash shot by Juliette's mom.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I'm here, my friend Slash. I loved slash. Listen. I
want to show you something I was just what you've
been talking about. Yes, yes, this is what I told you.
I wrote this book.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
It's called matt or Glossy, and it's a business bible
on how to become a makeup artistic and it hastylist.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
In the fashion and entertainment industry.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
And it's a book of then you know, it's like
a book in the form of a fashion magazine.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And that's what you call it comprehensive.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's all kinds of stuff in the well, everything I
experienced since I finished Jill Black School makeup school.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
When I was hanging out with you guys. Actually remember that.
You know you should, definitely you should, you should put
this out. I am I can't read all the directions
because it's in Germany, but the photos are great. But
you know what, all your all your stuff is amazing. Yeah,

(07:38):
this is it contains all my work and stuff. And
you know what a.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Look book is or do you know what an editorial is?
And since you're in entertainment and producing movie, so yeah,
and then you know what makeup artists are like and
what special affects people, the difference between a beauty makeup
artist or to the effect to make it.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I don't think I've ever actually seen anything like this
from the makerup you now, I know, even going on
about it, it's really nice though. It's really well put
together and organized and this thank you. Yeah, hopefully you
will come on soon and and then hopefully it's mad

(08:21):
of glossy and it's slash by you guys, be beautiful.
Everyone is always so supportive and such sweethearts, and there's
such kind people. It's just unreal. I can't but believe

(08:41):
I've been part of this. I can't even believe. I
don't even know why, you know, I said that in
the other video. They're so incredibly nice and amazing and
just I don't even have the words to explain how
amazing they are. And through them, also I met more

(09:05):
amazing people. You know. I'm whatever has happened in my life,
good or bad, but I think I'm really fortunate as
far as the people in my life, because everyone I've
met is just incredible. I'm really grateful.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, I remember that part of the other interview you did.
It actually made me laugh when you said, like, I'm
not that nice, you know, why are these nice people
liking me? And that made your friend laugh and that
made me laugh. But no, out of all the experience
I've had talking to you, I reached out on Facebook,
you know, the small time. We've been already talking already,
and it's nothing but nice. So that's the impression that

(09:44):
I get. So you're just you're humble. I guess that's
what I would say.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
So that's my God, Really, that so sweet you say.
It's because that's what I wish I would be always.
I always keep telling my friends, I just want to
be humble.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
And it's like, whatever, it's coming off that way. So
let's go back to kind of what they call, I
don't know, it's humble beginnings. But just to help you,
I get help with a jumping off point. How old
were you when you moved from Are you from straight
German descents or what you you know made out of
and you know what's your ethnicity and what brought you

(10:21):
to La.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, I'm born and raised in Germany. I grew up
with my aunt and my uncle who were traveling kind
of I'll show people and I loved them over everything.
So I grew up with so much love and so
much excitement and beauty. And I just had that talk

(10:45):
with my brother the other day where I said I
had the most amazing childhood. And I don't even know
so many people, you know, they all talk about their
childhood where it was hard or something happened to them
or I don't know, like and I can never I'm again,
I'm like more than grateful for it wasn't always like easy,

(11:08):
you know. Of course there was there was situations, you know,
like in every family and everywhere, but you know, over all,
it was just incredible. I wish every kid could have
that childhood.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well that's that's good to hear, because you're right, there's
there's a lot of tales of woe and I can
look back. You know, we've talked about it on our
this podcast because you know, whether it as it relates
to Axel, you know, I you know, I like to
think I had a good childhood for the most part.
You know, my parents are both or and or were
crazy ish, you know, with mental health issues, but more

(11:46):
or less, I had a good childhood? But how did that?
You know, I've always been in New York. How did that?
Where did you make the leap? Because that's that could
be a scary transition to go to another country and
go across, you know, completely across. It's not just going
into another tree in Europe. You're so, what made always
the move to la And was is he the reason
that he moved? So I guess how did that? Yes?

(12:08):
How did that? How did that happen?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So basically I grew up on the carnival and then
my uncle died and I had to. Uh, I moved
in with my mom he and just love she was.
She was working here, and uh, I became like this
punk rockeid and I just roamed the streets at night

(12:33):
and listened to punk rock music and you know, hang
out at city clubs and just hung out and and uh,
while I was still in school, I had to I
was working a lot of jobs also. I was working
once in this I don't know, American sports shop, clothing.

(12:55):
I was working at some cafe. I was working at
different and bars. And then there is this one bar
I worked actually I worked in this place. It was
called check Us. It was like a really fancy, like
kind of you know, back in the eighties used to
call it Discotique, and it was like a like a

(13:15):
hip hip club, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
The only Checkers I know is a really it was okay,
hit or mess fast food restaurant on the Long Island
for hot dogs and hamburgers. And yeah, it's not the same.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, no, no, no, that was like it was on
the It was on the street. He En does a
love which was called Kunigsali, which is like a very
prestige you know, there's like Prada and Gucci shops and stuff.
They're like expensive. And they had this club it was yeah,
it was a nightclub, you know. And and I worked there.

(13:52):
And then they some of the guys, some of the
nightclub and club owners here, they opened up another place
which was called to Rye which means uh door three
or you know, something like that. And it was a
big industrial hall where they had concerts. And so I

(14:15):
was and each club in this love had one bar.
There in that place, there was different bars, you know.
So I was doing with my friend Sandra. We were
working on that bar for from the Checkers for for
the todd Rye. This this place basically and there was

(14:39):
a I didn't really I wasn't really into like guns
and Roses or this music. I didn't even really know
about it. The only time my brother had he had
shown me a video I think on MTV. Because I
didn't have a TV or anything, you know, I was
just listening to music. I just had a tape player, basicly,

(15:01):
and I remember my brother he was like, come look
at this band, amazing blah blah blah. So then they
ended up. It was announced that they were playing at
the Tour Drive. But this place was it was like
it was made for at least maybe like eight hundred
two thousand people, but at that night, actually there weren't

(15:25):
many people. There were maybe like three hundred. Nobody was interested.
And I remember there was Faster Pussycat in the beginning
and everyone was raised, you know, more like, oh, faster Pussycat. Yeah.
But at that time, I had just broken up with
my first boyfriend, so I was super heart broken and
I was not into anything, you know. I was just

(15:47):
like I had to work, so I was just working,
but I wanted to just go home. I wasn't interested
in the concert or anything. I was like this drama queen.
I was like he loved me basically, you.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Know, like that.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I've been there, but you know, just with the girl,
I'll never forget going to Uh the side note, I
don't know if you're familiar with the band the Ataries.
They're kind of like a pop punk band and during college.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, I've heard them. I think i've heard them.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I guess they're most known for the Boys of Summer Cover.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't remember, but I definitely have heard the name.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, So I mean I I was willing also into GNR.
I liked a lot of pop punk stuff in college.
My first girlfriend had broken up with me, and they
have the song and the lyric is like girls are
fing evil, And I just remember being at their show. Yeah,
girls are evil, I look back to cringe or whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
So I just I remember I was watching the show
for a little bit and my friend she kept raving
about this guy on stage with the yellow leather pants
or something, and I was just like yeah and and uh.
And then I went upstairs because this place also had

(17:09):
like an upstairs. This was like where the backstage was,
and there was the production office and and you know,
our office where we would get paid and stuff. So
I was I just went upstairs and sit there and
wait to get paid basically after the show.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
And and.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
This is so funny. And then all of a sudden,
this guy is standing in front of me and he
has he was wearing these yellow leather pants and he
had like a black leather coat, and he had a
German bread and in his hand, and he was wearing
this this this kind of hat, you know, this hat
he was wearing, and and he was standing in front

(17:51):
of me, and I was just like soaking, you know,
I was like cry and not crying, but I was
just sad, you know, and not in the mood for anything.
And I was just thinking, oh my god, what does
he want?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
You know?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And then he and you know, and he but he
didn't say anything. He was just standing in front of
me with his German bread in his hand, and and
then he just sat next to me, and I was,
you know, I was, I was. I just said there.
And then all of a sudden, he took his headphones
from his walkman and he put them on my head

(18:28):
and and I was listening, and then you know, I
looked at him and I was like stones nice like
like that, you know, and and then and then he said, hi,
you know, I'm easy. What's your name? Blah blah blah,
And I was like Hi, I'm Juliette. And and then
I when I really looked at him, I was like, wow,

(18:51):
he's like super cute, you know. But I was still
in my you know, love sick situation, so I didn't
really pay that much attention. And then he was like,
do you want to come backstage to party with us?
And I was so mad, you know, I was like, naw,
I'm not interested in backstage parties, you know, I'm just

(19:13):
like that. So he left and I was just sitting
there and I was waiting. Finally they everything was finished,
and I was just waiting to get my money so
I could go home, you know, but all my friends
were there and they were somewhere, and so finally when
we got paid, you know, I was just ready to split,

(19:35):
and I told my friends. I was like, hey, I'm
leaving blah blah blah, and they were like, will you
go and stop it? And then when I went out
on my way outside, Ius he was standing at the
door in the doorframe, you know, and he's like hey,
you know, I was like hi, and he had this

(19:55):
magazine in his hand and he was like, hey, can
you would you translate something for me in this magazine,
you know. And I looked at him and I was like, okay, sure,
why not, you know, and he's like, let's go to
the bus, and I was like okay. So we went
to the bus and I translated this thing for him,

(20:16):
and then after my friend came, and then I think
the band came and they were ready to leave, and
my friend, actually Sandra, she said, hey, we're all going
to the hotel blah blah blah. You know, you have
to come, and I was like, I guess, you know,

(20:36):
I just said, okay, I'm coming. And I'm not sure
if I drove with Easy or how I got to
the hotel, but I ended up going with Easy to
his room and everyone else was downstairs partying in slashes room,
you know, and so we we just sit down in

(20:59):
the in the room. There was like a little table
in the bed, and he said on the bed and
he gave me presents like a poster and record and
just stuff like that, you know, and he was just
we were just talking. I don't I have even no
idea what we were talking about. What we were always talking,
you know, I think he was. He was so interested

(21:25):
in me and my world, you know, which was weird.
So we talked. We just we just talked, and he
was super nice, super sweet, you know. And and then
I remember it was getting late and and at the

(21:45):
time Izy and Axle was still sharing a room. And
then Axel came and they talked for a minute or something.
I was just sitting there in the in the chair,
you know, And and then Axel went to bed and
is he seemed like he had kind of fallen asleep
or something, you know. So I was like, I grabbed
my stuff and I kind of like went to the

(22:07):
door and I wanted to escape, and you know, and
by the time I was like, I was like, you know,
trying to open the door, He's like, where are you going?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I was like, Hey, I have to go home. I
have school tomorrow, you know, and I have to work.
And so he got up from the bed. He didn't
even have shoes on, you know, he just put his
coat on, and he had this little little black like
address book, and and he went downstairs with me, and

(22:38):
we were sitting in the lobby where I called a
taxi and I was waiting for the taxi and we
were sitting in the lobby and he's like, can I
get your phone number? You know? And I was like
why why you never go? Why? You know you're you're
from America, you live there, you I don't know. I

(23:00):
was just like why I don't give it to you basically,
And then when the tax i was like bye, you know,
I got up and I went to the taxi. I
got in all of a sudden, he got in on
the other side, but he and he didn't have any
shoes on. And I was like, what are you doing,
you know, and he's like, can I take you home?

(23:22):
And I was like, I don't know. I was like sure,
why not? You know, I figured he doesn't have any
shoes on, you know, I tell him to go back
on the street right anyway, So oh, he asked like
how far is it?

Speaker 3 (23:38):
You know?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I was like, yeah, twenty minutes. So we came to
my mom's house and we got out and I was like, hey,
you want to come in and stuff and he's like yeah, so,
and I remember we we had to sneak in because

(24:00):
it was late, you know. Everyone my mom and my
brother they were sleeping and they were downstairs in the rooms.
And I was living upstairs on the loft, and and
I remember my room. It was always a total mess,
like like seriously mess, like a bad mess. And but

(24:20):
I had all these little Christmas lights. I had to
I put all the electric together so when you hit
one switch, the whole room would light up with these
little Christmas lights. So we kind of like, you know,
we went up the stairs. I took easy and then
I searched for the light switch and I turned this

(24:40):
light switched on and all these Christmas lights came on,
and Izzy was standing there and it you know, I
had like stuffed animals everywhere like kids did. And Izzy
was standing and he was looking around and he's like, wow,
this is magic. And I was thinking, what did looks
like a mess, you know. But also you have to

(25:03):
keep in mind I didn't really speak English that well,
and he didn't speak any German, you know, so it
was just little thing is so.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And then he said to me and then he said
he said, he sat down on the bed, and then
he said to me, do you have a raiser? And
I was thinking, why does he want a raiser?

Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So I was like, yeah, sure I have one where
like you know, shave my legs with and stuff. So
I gave him that raiser and he gave him a
little shave and then he just fell asleep, and I
was just I was, I was just yeah. I was like, okay,
you so, and I put some I think I put

(25:54):
some music on it. Just lay next to him in
the bed and fell asleep. And then the next morning
woke up because my mom was calling from downstairs. She's like, you, yeah,
are you up? You have to go to school, you know,
breakfast is ready. And I was like, hey, yeah, I'm up.
I waited for her, you know, until she left. I
could hear the door thingy, and then I was like, okay,

(26:18):
we got to you know, let's go downstairs. So we
went downstairs and my mom she always had this she
always made this hot chocolate for me for breakfast and
like a toast with nutella. I don't know if are
you familiar with to nutella?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That yes, that said worldwide now yeah yeah right now.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
But back then, you know, and I and I, you know,
I was like kyah, you know, I gave is it is.
I was like, Kia, you know, this is my breakfast.
That's what we eat, you know, it. I love this
stuff because I you know, I ate this when I
was a kid. You know, my uncle he always used
to buy these big palettes with many glasses and we
could eat out of the glass. I know it's not

(27:01):
very healthy, but we loved it. We were happy. But
so and and he was like, no, what is that,
you know? And I was like, oh my god, you
don't know this. This is like the best thing ever.
I live up this. You have to try it, you know.
So he tried and he really liked it. And then
I had to go to this one job. I skipped

(27:25):
school and I went straight to this one job in
this American sports shop. And before before is he dropped me.
We went in a taxi and the hotel was pretty
close to that shop, and is he dropped me off
in the taxi and he said, can I have the
number of your store? And you know, I was like

(27:47):
why so anyway, but somehow he got the number and
he went to the hotel and we said goodbye, you know,
and I thought this was it. I'm never going to
see him again. So and then half an hour later
that I get a phone call in the store and
I pick up the phone and he's like, hey, it's easy,
you know. I was like, what are you doing? You know,

(28:09):
He's like, hey, we're we're going to be a little
bit later. We stay here a little bit. Do you
want to come and meet me at the hotel? We
can hang out a little bit more and talk, you know.
And I was like, yeah, sure, let me you know,
let me ask my boss. So I I went. I
went to the supermarket and I bought a glass of

(28:31):
nutella and I wrote my phone number on this and
when I when I when I saw Easy. We hung out.
We sat there for a little bit and then we talked,
and I remember we were sitting on the streets. Everyone
else was getting ready or something. And and then when

(28:53):
you had to leave, I went into my bag and
I grabbed this glass of nutella and I was like, here,
you can my number.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's so funny that you introduced Izzy to nutella and
that's how you end up giving him your phone number.
Like that's just something so random. Yeah, amazing, it's just amazing.
I can't make that up basically.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
But and then he they had to go they were
playing Where were they playing? They had to go somewhere
in Holland. They had to go somewhere they were playing
somewhere in Holland, not Amsterdam, because he called me a
couple of days later. Still, I thought I would never
hear from him again, you know, And he was super,

(29:39):
super sweet the whole time. He was so like, how
do you say? Like he was just so interested, and
he was listening in my broken English like what I
had to say? You know, it was so fascinating, and
I mean.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
What guy does that? It's just the anti anti guy
usually the fact that you know, you have a rock
star asking you to his room, but all he wants
to do is will you with his German breadth? It's
not euphemism, is German?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
No no, no, but but being you know what they
want any rock stars yet there were a small band.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well rocker. I know, they weren't stars yet, you know,
you know, I sure.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
There were musicians and there, and they were doing it
professionally basically, That's how I saw it in my mind.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But sure, that's why you said, like why do you
want my number? Why what is this even happening? So yeah,
that's even It adds to the story of course that
you knew, you know, he's courting you. And then there
are a lot of people might now, you know, oh
is he How can you not jump on the chance,
you know, people fantasizing, But uh, at that time, everything
you're saying makes sense, especially the broken English, and you

(30:47):
live far away. But it's very cute. All the little
things he does. It reminds me of the little stories
that my grandpa would say about, you know, with my grandmother.
But nowadays, I don't know that might people might look
at it differently, but that's like romantic, you know, following
and say, you know, it didn't seem you know, anything
crossed the line. It was always very sweet and cute

(31:07):
or confusing. Why no shoes? Why do you want to shave?
But that's harmless, you know, harmless enough.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, but I had, you know, I mean, all the
all all my friends or all the people I know
do some something. What maybe to the rest of the
world seems weird and crazy, but to me, it just
seems unique and appealing, you know, or interesting inspiring.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I agree. Where did it start going from? Okay, there's
this guy, you know, handsome, but I'm not ready, you know,
to Okay, I'm going to be Easy's girlfriend and move.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
He he called me and he said, hey, we're playing
the Paradisol in Amsterdam. Do you want to come and visit?
Slash told me he talked to some of your friends
and they are coming to come with them. And I
was like, yeah, maybe I have to ask my mom.
You know, I have to go to school and work.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't know how old are you at the time.
How old are you at the time, I.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Was like seventeen eighteen and and so yeah, I talked
to my friends and they were like, hey, you have
to come, you have to come. You know, my friend
Sandra and another friend, she was driving the car, and
so I ended up going with them actually to Amsterdam
to the Paradisol, and I remember when I got there.

(32:37):
When we got there, he was nowhere. Stevie was there.
He was so cute. He was like, hey, all of
a sudden, it seemed like everyone knew who we were.
We just briefly all kind of met, you know, but
everyone seemed like excited that we came and that we
were there. And then Stevie came. He was always so

(32:59):
such as sweetheart, and he's funny and just cool. You know.
Stevie came and he grabbed me and he twirled me around,
you know, like a ballerina dancer, and he's like, come
with me. You know, I'm going to take you too easy.
He took me downstairs in his room and he opened
the door and it's like as he was standing there
and it was just like magic. You know. We just

(33:24):
looked at each other and he's like, hey, you made it.
And he's like, you put this backstage pass around me
and he gave me a glass of wine and you know,
and he's like, come, I'm going to show you everything,
and you know, he showed me on stage and it
was just it was so cute.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
It just clicked out for that.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
No, no, we just kept hanging out. It wasn't like that.
It wasn't like it was just we were just hanging out.
And because I grew up with my brother, I was
super used to hanging out with my brother and all
his friends, all this guy So I was always like
a girl who was always hanging out with the guys,

(34:02):
you know, and not thinking. I never thought anyone would
be interested in me as far as love, you know,
or something like that, because I always I don't know why,
it wasn't on my mind, not not on the you know. Well,
I had crushes I was like, Oh, he's cute, this

(34:23):
and this, But I never thought they would like me.
I was thought, oh, they're going to like my girlfriend
because she's really beautiful in my eyes. You know, I
was never I don't know, I felt like I was
just always the good friend. You know.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Well's I think that's part of your humility we were
talking about before, And yeah, I can. As they say
it's a cliche, but it's it's kind of true. It's
kind of how I met my wife. When you're found,
like when you're not looking is usually when you find
when something happens. You know, I had given up. I'm like,
it wasn't until I convinced myself like I'm gonna die
along until now I got my wife and kid here

(35:01):
with me. Uh So that's so that's I mean, that's
very sweet.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
But I was quite young, you know, so I wasn't
even I was. My head was so much up my
ass with my own chi my trying to figure out
life that I didn't think about that, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Sure, And then when did the because you sent me
a bunch of photos, which I appreciate, and that's they're
gonna be sprinkled over this.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Uh this episode this whole thing someone If anyone is interested,
they can read it in the book if that ever
comes out. But uh, yeah, there's been he we've been
talking Is He called me for like a year on
the phone, and we've been meeting up briefly. In between

(35:48):
he invited me to come to England when they played
there and we hung out. And then in between Ellen
even was also when he came he yeah, with Great
White or with any other band. He would always call
me up and he would invite me to the shows,
introduce me to all the guys. And then he rented

(36:11):
a room in his hotel so I could stay in
the hotel and talk to Easy on the phone on
his bill. Basically Ellen Ellen is he It's just so amazing.
He was. I don't understand it. It makes me want

(36:31):
to cry actually because he was. He was the one
who he made everything happen, you know, really is such
an incredible person. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Anyway, Also because you and I were talking, I mean
my listeners know at this point, but you and I
were talking a little bit about off the air about it,
and you know, he's been a guest in the podcast
and some things that have come out of the podcast.
But he's and I've said I'll be consistent. I'd be
a fake person if not. He's been so kind to me,
so nice to me. I had a great chance to

(37:05):
meet him once in Arizona when I was on vacanic
vacation with my with my wife. Just a very awesome
guy to me. And you sent a really cool picture
which I'll overlay of him like holding this this cake,
this rock and roll cake for yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Easy, we got it for him for his birthday. I think, yeah,
I mean, I think I think we did.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Let's connect because it was Alan's idea, and this is
part of one of the stories that you got and
then I got. We got a little bit of a
teaser in the the other interview that you did some
stories from it. Alan, it was Allen's idea to do
Sweet Child of Mine. And now is you know one
of the reasons why they they made it that Geffen
was ready to give up. They took a while and
give me some money for Sweet Child of Mine. And

(37:49):
obviously that video and song blew up. You were there,
you were there, I was there.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's really funny because well, first of all, to go
back to we talked and everything for a year, and
then on my nineteenth, my nineteenth birthday, I remember is
he calling me. I was in my mom's house, and
he said, he said, go and look in your mailbox.

(38:19):
He always has like that, these incredible insane ideas and
how he did stuff. You know, he would just come
up with things. Anyways, he he said, go look in
your mailbox. So I hung up and I went. I
went downstairs, and I looked at my mailbox and it
was this this, this envelope, and it had you have

(38:43):
to realize that I had never seen anything like that.
There was It said Federal Express, and we didn't have
Federal Express. We didn't even have any kind of express.
We had the post office and that's it basically, you know.
And so this whole letter looked like something it could

(39:04):
have been for the president basically. So I went upstairs
and I opened the letter and I said, Mom, look, mom,
you know. My mom came, my brother came running, and
we were all looking. We didn't even know what we
were looking at, you know, we were looking at a
first class ticket to Los Angeles, and and my mom

(39:27):
was like, what, you know, what's going on? And I
was like, I don't know is he just sent me
this and then he called back and he said, happy birthday.
Would you like to come on tour with me in America?
We are on tour with Aerosmith. And I was like,
what about school? I have to ask my mom, you know,

(39:49):
I don't know yet, so and he's like, well, talk
it over and then let me know. So I talked
to my mom and we you know, I was just
like I have but then in the end she let
me go, you know. So yeah. Then I took my
first first class flight to America and I met him

(40:12):
and uh they were playing in Anaheim and I remember
one one just wanted to make a long story boring.
I remember when I was getting out of the airplane,
there was this person is he wasn't there, you know,
I was like, where is he? You know, I'm like,

(40:35):
and there was this guy and he had like a sign,
you know, miss GiMA or something, and he picked me
up and then we went. We we went. All of
a sudden, he takes me outside to this really long car,
like I'd never seen a car like this in my life,

(40:56):
you know, because we didn't have none of none of that.
And he opened the back door and he wanted me
to go on the back door, and you know, I
looked inside. I thought maybe there's like half an army
we have to pick up or something. So I looked
inside and I was like okay, and he's like, you
have to go inside. And I was like, I'm not

(41:19):
sitting there. I'm gonna sit in front with you. And
this guy's like looking at me. He thinks I'm like
really stupid. But I was scared back there. I didn't know,
you know. So I sit in front with the driver
and he tried to explain to me that these are
limousines and that they're in America and if this is

(41:40):
my first time and where I'm from, and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I love that. That's such a sweet story, like it's
just about you and innocence and cultural differences. And just thought, oh,
I love that you weren't stupid. I think that's just
I was just I had no idea. You know, I'm
not being stupid. That's just being you know, it's ignorant.
That's very It's you know, when I teach my son
something for the first time, it's like, you know, it's

(42:06):
it's if you don't know, you don't know, I'm still
we all still learning something every day. But that's oh
my god, I love that. Sorry, I'm from.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
A small town, you know. So I was like, I
had traveled a bit in Germany and Europe, but I'd
never been to America. So it was a it was
like a big candy store, this whole place and everything
that came with it. You know. I remember when I
when we came finally we came to that stadium, and

(42:38):
the limousine park down. He went downstairs. Somehow there was
many more of these limousines, you know. But I was
just like, I mean, I can't even describe it. I
just I was just looking and all of a sudden
in the review mirror, I saw Izzy, and I just

(43:00):
you know, opened the door and I just ran out
and jumped in his arms. And he was looking at me,
and he's like, what are you doing? Why are you
sitting up front? You know, why are you getting out
up front? He didn't understand, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Who is either judge mister.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
No, No, he wasn't judging. He was just confused. I
guess we got engaged right right pretty much in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, how you know that?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
But you know, I told him I never want to
get married. I told him that in the beginning, and
plus I wasn't ready anyway. But yeah, we got engaged.
I didn't know what that was, being engaged, you know,
he was. I remember he gave me a ring and
we both were sitting in the car, like really proud

(43:52):
looking at our hands, you know, like kind of putting
our hands together with this ring. And but I didn't
know what it meant.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Actually, so did he just say will you marry me?
Was there any sort of.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
You know, he just said should we get engaged? And
I was like, okay, why not?

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Sounds like a promise ring. It's like one of those.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
That said, you know I was, I was. I had
no idea about all this stuff and I was never
thinking about stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Okay, So when you're seeing your I guess I don't
know if you want to call it now, at the time,
whatever time it was, what was it like seeing your fiance,
your short lived fiance is isy on stage before we
get to the because I want to talk about sweet
Child video, But what was it like when you first
saw guns and Roses? Because again, they weren't stars then
when you first met him.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
America but a year later then when in America, I
mean they were support band, but still it was different. Somehow,
it just got got bigger and bigger. Everything, it just
got bigger, and the whole thing was taking on his
own life basically. And but I didn't. I don't. I

(45:15):
don't know if we ever felt it that way, how
it was from the outside, because we were all in
our own little world, and all of a sudden, I
was just part of this little family, and everyone treated
me amazingly, and everyone was supportive, and it seemed like
everyone liked me and everyone put up with me basically,

(45:37):
you know, because I wasn't. I mean, I had my
I'm sure I had my fair share of weirdness there.
Plus I we were snagging at easy at something, you know,
I was like, I put the toilet's eat down, blah
blah blah like that, and then and and.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I don't, that's a funny. That's such a normal thing
that you're doing.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Exactly. It was just normal, you know, to me, we
were just normal. Plus plus is it was always shielding
us from this or shielding me. I didn't. I didn't
really get what was going on, you know. I mean,
I'd never had that experience. Plus I wasn't an artist,

(46:23):
you know, I was. I wasn't doing you know, I
don't know what I was doing. I was trying to
I was just trying to be happy, trying to find yourself,
you know, basically. Yeah, And I was just excited, you know,
I was super excited about everything.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It's funny because you know, they always say let it go,
because memories are a way of keeping the past alive,
you know, and and and some memories are so painful
that you never want to revisit them again. But these
memories more like a gift to me, you know. I
can open them up again and again to fill myself

(47:05):
with happiness while gravity is pulling me in and the
earth won't stop spinning, you know, and hopefully maybe I
can share some happiness with someone else.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
So you have with me so far, and I really
I like the way you phrased that because I wanted
to be known, and I thought I set you off
the air. You know, it's because for you it's your
ex boyfriend, ex fiance, and that's not lost on me.
It would be weird for me to do an interview
about an X of mine. That would be really uncomfortable.
I wouldn't want you to talk about anything that's uncomfortable,

(47:39):
so I'd only want you to share positive, good memories.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
So no, I'm just gonna like funny, funny things, you know.
I mean, if I share, if I tell you how
I was, then you can imagine what he had to
put up with.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
You like me, You're like me, you're too hard on yourself.
You're just like, yeah, you like me to accept. I
don't know, do you accept compliments well, because I'm not
like that. You're so so far.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yes, but I guess I'm not so good at it.
But maybe because all you know, a lot of times
people say I'm annoying, I talked too much and blah
blah blah. But but the funny thing is when I'm
when I when I was with Easy, or when I
when I was around these guys, they didn't think I

(48:27):
felt like they didn't think that of me. I could
be myself and they just liked it or they didn't.
But no one said anything about it. You know, no
one complained. It was more like sharing. We were all
to me. It was all. It was more like, you know,
we were all kids and we were sharing an experience

(48:48):
when none of us knew we none of us had
experienced anything like that ever before. I mean, Slash was
almost the same age as me, Stevie I think is
he was. He was five years older than me of four,
but it's almost, you know, and and it's it's always

(49:13):
like the experience as you've had before, where you come from,
you know, and then how how things evolve.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Oh one hundred percent. And that's kind of what I'm
all surrounding the guns of Roses Nucleus, that is this
podcast talking about all those things and a lot of
the short the stories that you shared about yourself and
the innocence that comes with it, or just the communication,
you know, how you figured the love language. That's what
you kind of met, you know. It's it's a love language.

(49:43):
And I'll never have that image of holding a bread,
a German bread, out of my head forever for the
rest of my life. I just think that's and him
giving the headphones to you, that's suchu a romantic movie situation.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
He was always Oh my god, he was, he was
he was. I must have driven him crazy because I
was on this I had all these weird First of all,
when when I when I came to America. It's besides
the stuff with the band. It was just me and
him in our own little world the whole time, and

(50:15):
and it was just so First of all, he took
me to a supermarket and I and I and I
immediately I wanted to try every single toothpaste is and
there was like brillion and I had never seen them
because we only had one toothpet brand in Germany at
the time.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Or the same thing with cereal, you know. So I
was busy the whole time, you know, I wanted to
He bought all that stuff for me, and I just
I was just trying things, you know, and I was,
I was, I was watching every I kept taking telling
him to take me to Tower Records, because every single

(50:57):
movie I had watched in German, I wanted to watch
in English to learn the language. So constantly, you know,
he had to like or I remember, you know, it
was very important. We didn't have phone, a cell phone
or stuff like that. So I was constantly writing postcards

(51:18):
and letters to my friends and family in Germany. And
so I every day, almost every day, every second day,
I was like, is he take me to a hotel?
We have to stop at a hotel. I'm with my
bundle of postcards and stuff, and he's like, why do
you always want me to take you to a hotel
after a while, you know? And I was like, well,

(51:39):
because I have to send my mail. And he's like,
why don't you use a mailbox? And I was like, well,
because you guys don't have any mailboxes. And he looked
at me and we were parked right next to this blue,
round thing on the street and he's like, what do
you mean they're there? And I was like, what are
you talking about? They're like square a little and yellow.

(52:03):
They're not round and blue. I thought this was a
trash can. So you know, it was stuff like that.
I ended up using the mailboxes after that.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
When your book comes out, all these little you know,
surrounding what we're doing here, all these little stories I
think are just so endearing and it's just the fact
that you're going through that. It's like when Harry met Sally,
but when is he met Juliette. You know, it's just like,
I really I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
And I remember is his mom kept saying to me,
like really early on, she was like, Juliette you need
to write a book. And I was always thinking, like,
why what do I have to say? You know, I'm
like like, I said, no one. And then my friend,
she my friend Alina from here from Germany. She's an

(52:52):
actor and the director, and she said to me a
couple of years ago, she said, Juliette, your story would
be amazing for a miniseries on Netflix or something like that,
you know, or a movie. And that's actually why I
ended up started writing Okay. But then I got rejected
and I was like, whatever, well.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Here's and I'm gonna this is. I'm I'm I'm used
to rejection. Believe me. Uh, let me let me say
because before the pocket like, I don't like, I don't
have a lot to say. I'm nobody. I'm like a
half an hour a gow as quick. You're somebody, you
have a lot to say. We're approaching an hour. So
I just want to pause for a second, say, well,

(53:36):
you might have to do a part two just because
I don't know my wife. My wife's leaving for work,
a little baby Brownstone Harrison Rex, I don't know when
he's gonna need me. We just say that, but I'm
gonna keep you here as long as I can. And
also as a an aside, some listeners don't understand that.
They're like, why is your son? Very few? Very few,
and shout out to Richard Fordes who recently I commented

(53:59):
on his Instagram like you know what they're all posting
about the upcoming tour, and I was like, see you
out there, you know nothing, expecting nothing, and he replies
with baby Brownstone. He listens to the podcast, he follows
me on Instagram. So forore, disapproved my son. But I'll
try to get out the rest of your amazing story
while I still can't. So I needed to get that

(54:20):
little uh I don't know. P s a disclaimer out
in the middle of this or towards the end of
this interview, because I want to get to a couple
of things before we do get out of here. If
there whether or not, if there is a part two
with you, you know there will there will be a
part two regardless when your book comes out. You'll come
back on Okay, we'll do it. At the very least

(54:42):
we'll do We'll do that.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
So now, if anyone is out there who knows someone
who's working at a publishing company.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Put out the vibes, but you never know because I again,
this is more of just your.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Also, I wrote it in English.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Okay, because yeah, the the book was almost.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
It's not it's not finished all the way about halfway through.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Okay, because the clip we showed with slash that you
can't read everything, because.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
No, that's another book. I'm talking about a biography. I
also started writing biography because my friend said it was
good for miniseries.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
So it's all I thought I was going to be
combined in some way. I'm understood. Okay.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
The makeup book is it's it's a guide, a fun guide,
and the biography is, uh, it's just called street Child.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
For now, okay, street Child of mine or just.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I don't know. I don't want to, I don't know
if I I don't know, I have no idea street Yeah,
I was thinking about street Child or mine. It's maybe
a selling point or something. But maybe there's another way
to not use that.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I understood, and I respect that. But here, let's use
that as a jumping off point because I wanted to
ask you about your experience on the set a Sweet Child.
I know I brought ship.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I totally got a track. Yeah, so we I remember
we went to we were staying at Allen had booked
us into the new Bonaventure Hotel, which was That's why
I remember that video, because the there was an outside

(56:30):
elevator I'd never seen before. I'd never been in one before,
and it went all the way up. It was hired,
and I ever ever been an anator outside. But I
think they were shooting this video somewhere there in the
hotel or somewhere around. I don't. I don't know if

(56:51):
I forgot, but I remember being on the set and
they were and and I remember Easy saying to me,
would you like to be in the video with me?
And and I was like what? I was like, no way.
I said to him, Hey, if we ever break up,
then I have to watch this video all the time

(57:15):
and I'm going to be really sad.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yes, that's I think that's the reason why he's in
that video with the dog. He ended up being in
there with the dog because I wanted. I was like,
I don't want to do that, you know, And he
didn't want to. I think he didn't. He just asked
me and I said no basically, and that was it,
you know, he did. There was no whatever and the

(57:43):
stupid thing about it is what I didn't realize it
was so I was so dumb. This video haunted me
for the rest of my life because whatever I was afterwards,
this video was playing everywhere. It was insane. It was
really for a long time after we broke up. It

(58:06):
was so hard every time, even when I was like
with some guy on the date, all of a sudden
in the bar, that great video it came on, but
it just had a whole different meaning for me, and
it came a rush of emotions. I think I was
just so emotionally stressed on a certain level that it

(58:33):
was just it was just I can't even explain it.
You know, it took the healing and letting go of stress.
You know happens on so many layers that it just
takes time. I guess I totally got off topic. I'm sorry.
What else did you wanted to know about that?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
No? No, I appreciate that. As I say good why
to my love bye? I love you. She's going to
go teach, my wife said, dance teacher for little kids.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Ivy wants to say hi, Oh.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Ivy, Well, my son is probably gonna Harrison, do you
want to say Hi to a doggie. What's your what's
your dog name? Again? I'm sorry, Ivy, Ivy, you just
told me that. Uh, come here, buddy, you make an appearance.
He looks his his hair tied back, long hair, don't
care see the doggie him mere handsome. Hi, that's Julia

(59:28):
and that's Ivy. This is Ivy Ivy.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Can you see hi? Ivy? I? Hi?

Speaker 1 (59:38):
He is?

Speaker 3 (59:38):
He?

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Is she cute?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Can you also say? Where's is he?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Ivy? Not easy?

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I know, I know I was trying to be funny
because I just know my time is limited, Harrison. Can
you give me a few more minutes so I can
wrap up with Juliette. You know, some people think this
is unprofessional, but this is life. Good bye. Give me
give me a few more minutes, buddy, because I want to.
I want to ask her a few more things and
we again, well we will do a part too, because
this episode is because your stories are great and running

(01:00:10):
over time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
So with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Share whatever you can't you're comfortable with, or you don't
have to say at all, because I know it's sore,
but I mean, is there is he? And you meant
it meant to be?

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Just is there? How do you date like, you know,
when you broke up, like how long? Officially? I guess
you date for a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
And then you know, we were together for I think
like five years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Okay, well okay, and then it just.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Everything started to crumble and we did too. I'm sorry,
you know, you know what the thing is. I haven't
figured it out, but I think I was just not ready.
Is he was ready? You know, he wanted to get married.
I always kept saying, let's wait, you know, wait more.

(01:01:02):
But I don't know today when I think back, it's
always what I said in the other podcasts, It's always
that Rod Stewart song. I wish I knew it back
then what I know now, I would have made, you know,
probably different maybe maybe different choices or maybe ended up
in the same road, who knows. But I just wasn't ready,

(01:01:23):
and it was you know, he was in a different
stage of his life and and I was still. I
always thought he needed to be with someone who's also
successful like him, you know, and I was. I didn't
know who I was basically, you know, so but I

(01:01:46):
loved every every every minute. I'm glad, I'm grateful, and
I'm grateful to all of these guys. You know, I'm,
like I said, I still can't believe it. But it
was magical. It was it was amazing. It was an
amazing time there, each one of them. I you know,

(01:02:08):
I salute there's just amazing, interesting, beautiful, kind, kind, very
kind people. And it's very that's not very it's very rare.
You know. Besides all this image and whatever, and the

(01:02:33):
media created so much bad stuff. You know, back then,
I didn't understand any of it because it had nothing
to do with our lives. It had nothing to do
with this, basically, not for me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And you saw the media and the press back then.
I guess the only thing I got to ask, because
otherwise I wouldn't what's the what's the point? Where was
the last time you spoke to Izzy? Where's Izzy?

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
No, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
We had we have? First of all, yes, I've I've
We've emailed. I told him when I was writing the
book that I will be writing the book, you know,
because I'm I'm just when I when I do something
like this, I want everyone to know that I'm doing this.
I don't want to do things behind anyone's back. And

(01:03:27):
if if it's up to me, they can prove read
it and say yes or no. And if they don't
like anything, I take it out. And if they do,
it's fine. And if they help me or support me,
it's fine too. And if they don't have time, if
they don't care, it's also fine. But what that I
wanted to say, Oh, yeah, the question if we are

(01:03:50):
still in contact. I'm still in contact with you know,
with Alan, with Slash, with Megan, with the other girls.
I saw that couple of times. I haven't seen Axel
in a long, long long time. The last time I
saw him when he came to our house, I think,
or at some show. But and and I haven't seen

(01:04:11):
Stevie either. So but that's I think only because I
don't live in LA and they're far away and they
do their thing, you know, and I'm I'm here any
or anywhere else, you know. But and I always thought, oh,
they don't like me, you know. But it's not. It's
not that every time I ran into I run into

(01:04:33):
any of them. They are more than nice and sweet
and and and and it's crazy and they sometimes calm
me up for something and we talk and sometimes not.
But to go back to this thing, if I'm still
in contact with Izzy. I would like to have more
contact because I always start because he you know, he

(01:04:57):
was such a key figure in my life. I still
have like a real soft spot for him, you know,
and for everyone in the Gun's family who was around
me back then. And the connection I've felt has never
really faded, you know, And I think something my soul

(01:05:20):
is still processing in a way, and I'm just grateful
knowing you know, he's out there somewhere, hopefully happy and healthy.
And you know, when you or anyone else in the world,
do you think back on your past relationships, you don't
stay friends with all of them, you don't stay connected.

(01:05:42):
I have a boyfriends I'm not with excess in any
way I'm not in contact with. So it's just normal.
It's no you know. I mean, if I write him
an email, maybe he answers, maybe not. If I run
into him, I'm sure he's going to say hi, and
I'm going to say hi. Maybe we hugged, and maybe
it's nice to see each other. Maybe it's weird or

(01:06:04):
confusing or whatever, just like it is with any other
ex partner in your life or people you haven't seen
for a long time, you know, like I said. The
only thing is we shared like this a very profound moment,
and it I think not just not just me, It

(01:06:29):
affected all of us in such a big, big way
that none of us were aware. You know, Like I said,
I had no idea where my life is going to
turn out or what anything is going to turn out
back then when I was there, in this protected family,

(01:06:49):
in this in this beautiful you know, you know, my
life there it felt like have you seen have you
watched the video on the Doors song Love Street? She
lives on Love Street? Okay, anyway, when I watch this video,

(01:07:09):
when I hear this song, this is what my life
felt like back then, living in Laura Kenyon in that
house basically, you know, or I don't know whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Doors are actually my second I call him my second
favorite band. I know the song, but I haven't seen
the video, but I can imagine it. Oh that's thank
you for all of this. And I'll reiterate again because
I know it's it could be easy Stradlin of guns
and roses to many of us, but to you, he
was Izzy and this moment in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Time love and he was my best friend. But I
also I was I was not always nice. You know
I was harsh. Sometimes I was pitching a lot. Let's
say it that way. I was a good and he.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Loved you regardless of any short Yeah what is issues too?
It's not all your fault?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Oh yeah issues? Yeah? Oh yeah, man, I was. But
the thing is we never really thought because I couldn't
understand and he probably couldn't understand me. So when I
was pissed off at him, I just took the next
plane back to Germany and two days later he was
in front of my door saying, well, come back please,
I'm sorry. He would always say I'm sorry, which is

(01:08:23):
so cool, and then we would talk it out. And
there's there's one thing I want I want to say, Well,
I don't know if anyone he had this thing which
was incredible and I wish every every partner would. I
would do this when your other partner, your other significant person,

(01:08:45):
is freaking out about something. Mostly it's I think it's
emotion related to say it right, you know, when we
have some kind of emotions going through us thinking whatever,
you know, we're not good enough, or this doesn't work out,
or I have a problem with this person or anything.

(01:09:05):
Is he was always he would always take me in
his arms, and he would always say, don't worry, baby,
things would be just fine. I take care of them.
And just this one line, it just makes it just
takes the emotions out of everything and makes it better

(01:09:28):
and makes it all of a sudden, you see, clear,
because I always had the feeling I'm not alone, and
I really felt protected and understood, even though maybe I
have no idea, maybe he didn't understand, but he reacted
that way, and that always, you know, made me at

(01:09:50):
ease because I was stubborn also. You know, it's like
I think I was like a wild horse, stubborn. It
was always my way or the highway.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
No, I appreciate that story more than you ever know.
I'm going to I'm not going to bore you with
a listener with applying it to my life, but I'm
going to apply that some of the things that you've
said to my life to better.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
You know, there was always actually his he had a
hard time. You know, it was hard for him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
It was harder on him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Than anyone else, basically, I mean Slash as well. But
the media made everything so bad and he was the
one he had to deal with a lot, you know,
I mean, is he no one noticed. Is he would
always we come off tour, you would cut his hair
and change his clothes. You wouldn't recognize him on the streets,

(01:10:45):
but actually was always recognized everywhere, and he got so hustled.
And even today I think, fuck we you know, maybe
should have been nicer. I should have been I should
been nicer too, because you know they were best friends.
You know, they were talking on the phone every day.

(01:11:06):
But I was I was like, I was just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
I think it's one of life perspectives. Well, it's a
life respective thing. I mean, God, you look back and like,
how did I not see that? Maybe I should have
acted this way towards that person. It's hindsight twenty twenty
to use another cliche.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
But you know when you're with a bunch of friends
and you see one of your friends is actually in need,
in stress or something. But I think maybe it was
so overwhelming for everybody because everyone had their own thing,
you know, but it was so exciting. You know, every

(01:11:44):
day was something exciting and it wasn't and it was
always shared with everyone. I mean that's at least how
I felt it. You know, everyone had to get a house,
so we went over and we visit everyone. You know,
this is how you know, how his house, how everything
like everyone created like this beautiful thing for themselves, but

(01:12:09):
it was shared with everyone. You know, Christmas at Slashes
house and stuff like that, and this is how it was.
It felt for me. It was like a family and
all this blah blah whatever. Yeah, and and and sometimes
someone is freaking out here and there, but that's like

(01:12:30):
in every family.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
That's well said. And that's a good place. Because you
sent me a picture of you and Izzy and Slash,
I guess at a Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yeah that was That was a Slashes house at Christmas
where he when he's playing with the dog. Yeah, he
said that was his dog. Thangs so cute that dog.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Well, I look, Juliette, this was such a pleasure. You know,
look at this. We're approaching an hour and a half.
And I told you this was going to be like
we had a lot to talk about. And you you know,
maybe when you listen back, this will help you write
your book. You know a lot of some of the
stories help you flesh out some of your your stories.
So I'll put everything that you want me to as

(01:13:20):
far as in the you know, some people can see
you how to follow you, I could follow you know
your your makeup and hair stuff. That'll be uh in
the summary in the show notes. And so the two books,
or I should say the one book. Is it out
yet the Matt's the matting or Glossy or is that still.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
An I'm actually I'm looking for publishing for both of
the books and and and also I'm looking for collaboration
for the makeup book like with some brand it's yeah,
and the biography. I'm still I have all the chapters

(01:13:57):
and everything, and I have more seventy percent of the
book written down in English. But I definitely need a
publishing company for this because also I think I need
a co writer for this book. And I really would
like to have someone to finalize the book or rewrite

(01:14:19):
it with someone who who also knows Los Angeles and
the life there back then.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I'd like to think we will look back on this
conversation and kind of, oh, remember when we were talking
about we couldn't get this figured out? Well, now where
we are, it's I think we're just putting it out
into the universe. And you've definitely proven You've gotten a
lot to say, a lot of stories to tell and
I mean, if we're looking at watching on YouTube, is
that part of your makeup? Is that like your the

(01:14:49):
examples behind you that we're looking at or just those
This is a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Little This is called Juliet art. This is something I
did in doing Rona because I couldn't do any makeup,
so I was I was doing stuff like this actually
and this, yeah, this or this is like a really
old picture I did a group. I was trying to
do a graffiti in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah, yeah, talents. I love the whole vibes of the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I mean, yeah, these are this is like some work
I did, and some stuff this will some of the
pictures will. The makeup book is going to be like
it's like seven I think it's seven hundred pages, but
it will be like three hundred and fifty or something
when you go, I don't know, you have to count
it like this. Right now, it's like seven hundred it

(01:15:40):
has it has a seventy chapters, and there is at
least right now, I'm trying to figure out the photo
rights because most of the work I've done, most of
the those are like free productions I did where I
just created makeup and a friend of mine is Lamber,

(01:16:00):
the great photographer shot the pictures, and but I'm trying
to find the models and get all the rights, you know,
to that I can use the pictures in my book.
So I'm right now. This whole thing is finished, but
it needs like a re it needs a graphic designer

(01:16:20):
because I'm not one, and I had to learn during COVID.
I just learned in design I did. I took a
workshop like a course couple of months, and then I
designed that whole thing myself. I did everything myself in
the end. But I need help now, well I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Uh, just people, you know, if they're tuning in just
for eusy stories, they can help. And just throw Juliet
some some followers on Instagram. And if you're you know
you're interested in however, you know, if you want to
help support, I don't know. Sometimes you could throw up
a Kickstarter. Things can can help you. So it's not
the It's not the end of your story for sure,

(01:17:02):
So thank you for sharing some of it with me.
And I like to think that we can hopefully do
this again. Whether you know, we can talk about the
next four your book is at then, uh, and there's
obviously so much story. There's so much I'm sure we
didn't get to. Is what you're you're okay talking about
with with guns and roses and seeing them in concert
and all these different I'm sure that you have. I'm

(01:17:23):
sure you have like a million million more stories.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
This is it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
It's going on for an hour and a half being
so good. You're being so good. Good job, buddy. I
can't believe he hasn't bothered me. So thank you because he.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Knows it's important to you, because you're passionate about your stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
He's I got in his own little microphone. So in
the future, I wanted it would be great to do
co interviews with him. He's always hoping.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Probably wait till he's sixteen. He's next to you, He's like,
shut up that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
When that's what he's not all yeah, I'm talking about
because for a better worse, I think it's I like
working with him. I was hoping to do a kind
of like a co interview when I because I had
Matt Soremon, but his four year old was in school
at that time. I wanted like a quick two minute
segment of like two toddlers like interviewing each other. I
thought that would have been hilarious maybe in the future,

(01:18:18):
but anyway. See, I'm weird, I have weird stories. So
that's why I love Izzy's weirdness. I love your weirdness.
I love the guns of Roses weirdness, so that's part
of why I'm a fan. So all that said, Juliet,
thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Well I can say, to to quote Ellen Nevin, I'm
very grateful for this wonder moment of extraordinary privilege I
got to share with those amazing human beings and now
with you. So thank you for giving me the chance,

(01:18:54):
and thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
So that does it on this episode, for this episode
of Appetite for Distortion, I know you see the next one.
In the words of Axel Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I
don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Thanks to the lame massed security, I'm going home.