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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How is impossible that guns and Roses can still write
amazing music?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh, Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number
five hundred and twenty one. Welcome to the podcast WWE
superstar and new author Carrying Cross.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I'm doing really good man. That sounds crazy to hear out.
I don't holy count.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
When did the process start for you? I mean, wish
one starts starts sounds crazier. The WWE superstar that's been
your lifelong dream or is the author? I'm assuming you
meant that one.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I think goes back to back for sure. The author
right now, that's going to take a while to get
used to. Yeah, And when did the process start? I
guess you know, after I was released and going through
just processing what that is?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's I mean, everybody, at some point or another loses
a job, whether you quit or you get fired, or
there's budget cuts or you have a disagreement, whatever it is, right,
but it hits a little different when it's your dream job,
Like when it's the job that you wanted since you
were a little kid and you worked your whole life
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for so in the process of adjusting to that I
had a lot of people who had also been released
asking me, hey, like how do you do it?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And whatnot?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And I just had it from all directions at that
point in my life tell me to write this book.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, I'm glad that you did. Life is fighting and
it's just a lot. I don't know if you can
hear him, by the way, my two year old in
the background, do you hear him shouting daddy?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All right?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Good?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Maybe you'll come up in the recording. Because my lifelong
dream of doing radio and getting this opportunity to speak
with you, Carrion and the tie things into together. Because
I'm not built like you five six. You know, I've
loved wrestling my entire life. I was kind of limited
about what I could do as far as you.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Know I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm talking on the radio. Maybe I could have been
announcer another place at the time and not the time
in space. But to tie into your book into I
was just started watching the WWE unscripted on Netflix, and
to tie in what you were just saying, you know,
I love the stories I've been watching since I was
a kid. I'll never forget the first time I turned
on like what is this? It was some promo between
(02:24):
Jake the Snake and Rick de Modo Martell and I've
been watching since then. I love the stories, but the
behind the scenes you are real people, and for someone
like me, it's always been a battle with self esteem.
And it's like you see you, you know, Carrion or Scarlet.
I'm like, these these people have the best self esteem.
(02:45):
How do they deal with adversity and dealing and seeing
what it happens and unscripted on TV? And now with
your book, is that the main point, the main lesson
you want to get across to people is to get
through adversity and to show that hey, even though we're
built like superheroes, we're a human too. We go through anxiety,
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we go through losses, we go through So what's what's
the main goal that you want people to get through?
Because that's what I'm getting from the from the book.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
In your stories very much show what you how you
put that, it was very eloquent.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It would have been more eloquent than I would have
been able to encompass.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's oh thank you, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, it's like it's when you're talking let me speak
for myself. When I'm talking about myself, and when I'm
attempting to accomplish with the memoir that I wrote, there's
so much of my life that is discussed in that
and so many different periods that there's like a dozen
different things I was really attempting to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But that what you just said, is the main crux
of that.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's like, you you don't have to be dealt a
perfect hand to go for something that you love and
really want to do with your life.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I was under that illusion for a really long time
as a young man that you know, as you said,
you look at these people who have made it and
have done amazing things, and you think like, oh, well,
they clearly had a you know, they were a step ahead,
and everybody it's like, no, not necessarily, that's not necessarily it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And perhaps some of them were, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And I've gotten, you know, very much everything that I've
been looking for of substance in my life.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
We can talk materialism forever.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No one will ever have all the materialism that they're
looking for, but that's really not the most important thing
in life. Especially when you get a little bit of materialism,
we realize how unimportant it was.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So that's I love that and I identify with you
a certainly, again not by size, but we're around the
same age. I'm forty one, you're forty, right, yep. And
it's just you think back to your twenties and where
you were in your life, and you're thinking, do you
have goals for yourself? Because I told myself I'm going
to be I got to be full time by the
(04:58):
time I'm twenty eight. Long time for me to get
to work at iHeart to be the coworker of your
producer today drinking out of his Mets cup.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Sorry, I had to call you out, Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It's and now in a place where I'm actually good
and I get to do this side project, this podcast
and talk to some of my favorite people. I'm doing
it from home, sons here. It took a long time
to get here, but I didn't see that. Was it
Scarlett or who helped you keep going? It's gonna happen
(05:30):
for you. Don't lose faith. It just was very hard
for me to see those roadblocks and to being be
okay with him, knowing that it was going to pay
off in the future.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, when I got started, literally nobody I had to
kind of find that belief myself, and the belief was
based on other things that I had done in my
life where I was fully committed to them. And I
have found that when I am unwaveringly committed to something
look at may take a decade, it may take that
(06:03):
long and then some, but every situation is different.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But I have gotten out of.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
You know, this thing that I've been committed to, what
I've been looking for, or I have discovered it's not
what I thought it was, which to me, at the
end of the day, it's all the same as long
as I've been able to discover something about myself and
discover something about this thing that I have been interested
in being a part of. That is that is the goal,
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and I think that's for me. That is the life experience.
It's self discovery through the pursuit of these things that
you'd like to try and want to do and be
involved with.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I love this self discovery through these the characters
that you create on WWE. And you know, I know
where we're limited. I'm kicking off your radio tour today.
I'm honored to do it. It's I think, as you said,
it's like your first one. You have a lot of fun.
We have a cool stations for you lined up. But
I have a friend of the show. I think he's
(07:02):
a friend of yours that wants to say Hi, Cliff Compton,
former w W superstar and tag Tima champion Domino.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Uh so you super Domino?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You mean super Domino or Cliff You don't surf. Sometimes
people say wake.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Up, it's time to die.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So yeah, So if you can tell I have some
guns and roses posters, that's the theme of my podcast.
I'm sure you've been on an un wrestling podcast that's
where that's your theme.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's what I do with gn R.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So Cliff has been on here, Punk has been on here,
Charlotte Flair has been on here, all to talk about
their guns and roses fandom and here's the tie in too,
and maybe you have a just to ask if you're
a fan, good luck, good luck this weekend against Sammy
Zan because I'm rooting for you because I was told
by Cliff that there was a very awkward meeting between
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Sammy and Axel at a show in Chicago, and you
want to take a picture and Axle's like, eh, and
you made it weird. So you got to put Samy's
place that all that's aside a fan of Guns and Roses,
ever been through a show in Vegas or any of
the places, You've been just curious of your maybe your
musical out of taste.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I have never seen Guns n' Roses live, but I
grew up on Guns and Roses and I liked all
of the songs that everybody liked, But the one that
hit the biggest for me was off of use your
allusions to you could be mine as a little kid,
you know, you get it forty one on for day.
Grew up in eighty five when that Terminator to soundtrack
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hit and you heard that song for the first time.
You had already heard the best of on the radio
at that point, but when you heard that one, you
were like, how is it possible that Guns and Roses
can still write amazing music on par with what they've
already put out?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And it was in Terminator and it was so awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I remember as a kid seeing the music video too,
and Arnold was in the music video and it was
so cool.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, so completely agreed. Well, thanks Carrion, I hope we
get to do this again again. Good luck against Sammy.
I mean he's got beard. He complains too much. He
reminds me of myself. So beat his ass. Good luck,
get that push you deserve, man, Carrion, So thank you
for your time and again, I hope you just get
to do this again.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Thank you. It just for you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
When I have him in a choke in the match,
I'm going to ask him about the actual situation live
while I'm beating him up.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Thank you so much, Carrion. Chuck that up to another interview.
I never ever expected to have awesome Carrion Cross. And
if you follow this podcast, you know I'm a big
wrestling fan as well. In addition to Guns and Roses,
I watch Raw and SmackDown every week. I've been watching
for God for thirty years. So yeah, Carrion Cross has
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been on the podcast. Drew McIntyre, Charlotte Flair, see him
punk In, Cliff Compton of course, Domino Superdomino from adu
U Sin Domino for those who remember the kind of
fifties style a greaser tag team that they were with.
Jerry shut up the shut up to Cliff who I
got to post a video when he debuted in WWE,
(10:12):
he did the axle dance in the in the ring
when they were introducing them. And he's always sending me
on Instagram just like his favorite Guns and Roses videos
and interviews. I mean, hardcore GNR fan. So what's up, Cliff.
I'm gonna keep this one short? I posted on social media,
always had the conversation continues in between the broadcasts. I
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got quite sick the other week. I don't know what happened,
just a really bad forty eight hours. I lost my voice.
Not only did I lose it when he was coming back,
I was starting to talk by Kermit, and I'm like, WHOA,
Am I gonna sound like this for the rest of
my life? It was It sounds funny now, but I
(10:53):
was really I always have a nightmare, So I'm like,
am I gonna sound like Ray Romano for the rest
of my life? What's going on here? Of course, like
the swelling of my throat had to go down and
all that fun stuff, and I had to postpone a
couple of interviews. I got one coming up with with
with Halloween and Adam Baum. I have to reschedule those
because I just wasn't My throat wasn't up to it.
(11:15):
And today was kind of a test short interview making
carrying cross. I'm like, I got to make this work, man,
this is through my job, lucky enough to get you know,
have an opportunity. I'll do it and I feel good.
So more interviews to be scheduled in the coming weeks.
So just a little bit of a break while I
heal up. Although if you noticed the other week, I
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was really cranking out episodes. So it's kind of the
ebbs and flows of appetite for this torsion as we
slowly but surely. I mean it's still a distance away.
Episode six hundred's we're quite a way so from that
so five point twenty one. Excited to do more, and
before I get out of here, a few things I
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want to acknowledge. Shout out to a listener Phil from
the UK who won the Guns and Roses book. I
did a contest if you miracle a few episodes ago
to guess the secret phrase of Martin pop Off. This
is forty the Guns and Roses book. What he referred
to gnr as and he guests correctly hair metal, which
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many of us disagreed with. But I learned a hard
lesson that I have listeners everywhere, and he would cost
a lot of money to send prizes. So luckily Phil
is a popular dude and had friends visiting New York City.
So as I learned that you can uber delivery something,
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so I had the book uber delivered from Queen's from
far As Tales where I am to a hotel in
Times Square where his friends are, and they'll bring it
back across the pond to him. So I hope you enjoy, Buddy.
He asked me to autograph it. I think I may
have been asked for three or.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Four autographs in my life.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's not worth anything, but happy to do it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Phil is a long time listener of the podcast. I'm
pretty much sure since day one. He's one of those
I don't understand it that listens on either one point
five the speed or twice the speed. Some people do
that with podcasts. I'm a fast talk in New Yorker.
I don't know how you can listen to me speak
any faster.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
But thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Also, thank you, and I'm very Uh I should apologize,
just I just I've thanked you personally through emails and online,
but anyone who's donated the Patreon thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Really.
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You know I'm not ranking it in. I'm certainly not
one of those social media influencers, influencers that are making
money off what they're doing. You know, I'm making some
nice chump change or I can pay for Harrison's diapers
every now and then. But whoever is donating on on
on Patreon, you know, you know who you are.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I know who you are.
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Thank you so much. And if you want to, everything
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is really four and who knows, maybe more giveaways. I'd
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have to figure out I how to do digital giveaways
or something like that. It's I'm just not that I
don't know, or maybe one of these days I've become
so rich off this that I don't care. Oh yeah,
I all spend two hundred bucks ship something. I am
lucky though, because shout out to Jason from Australia, who's
this second person? I remember to guess the answer I
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think I might have been. We might have been screwed
if I had to deliver that to Australia. But I
have a lot of listeners in Australia, have a lot
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they're not in America. And that's the beauty of podcasting
and beauty of radio really in connecting. So I want
to get back as many ways as possible, and I
appreciate that this is my way of giving back, doing
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interviews and connecting with you and on the podcast and
on social media. So just a thanks Jason, Thanks, thanks everyone,
Just like thanks everyone to continue to support Appetite for Distortion.
A lot more to come. I'd be remiss if I
didn't say rest in peace, Ozzy. I can't believe that.
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What two weeks after the I think it was seventeen
days after the final show I did the review. You know,
I had to wait for my Jason, another Jason from
the UK to be my co host on it, and
so maybe it might have been two weeks right after
I posted the review that Ozzie passed. I mean, wow,
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what a way to go, you know, whether you can
think about I mean, I have okay, what if he
didn't perform? Would he would he have lived longer? I
don't think he wanted to, you know how badly he
said for soul, Well, he wanted this final show. And
while this might have been the greatest sendoff in the
history of human civilization, really, I mean we should all
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go out like that, you know, doing what we love,
knowing how loved we are. And as I'm recording this
interview in this portion, it's actually Alsie's funeral today, and
just looking at the footage and the photos, so it's
just our breaking it really, I mean, were all of
us rock fans, music fans are connecting them all across
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the world. We all have some sort of connection to
Ozzie and memory to Ozzie his music, whether it's seeing.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Him or meeting him.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I've never had the pleasure of interviewing him, but I
still feel as connected to him as all of you.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
So rest in peace, the Prince of Darkness.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Just very very sad, and I'm glad that we all
kind of had that moment together as just a i
mean god, as a planet. What a special moment for
all of us to just unite over his music and
over who. So now I'm thinking, like we should do
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this more. I'm not the only one thinking this. Who's
the next band. They kind of get back to the beginning.
And there was a recent performance I believe Robbie Krieger
and Jonathan Densmore, John Densmore of the Doors performed this
soft parade together. Give the Doors their flowers obviously, I know,
you know, Raymond Zerk and Jim Morrison obviously gone, but
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we should give. We should give who's remaining their flowers.
They deserve it too, the honor of the music. So
that's just another band. Obviously, with Ringo and Paul still alive,
these are more moments that we should be doing for
our rock heroes. And I mean the amount of money
that was raised for Parkinson's and all those charities. I mean,
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just a wonderful event. You know. Of course it's now
there's that dark cloud of just Ozzie's not here anymore,
but just like choosing to remain. Remember, Wow, what a special,
special moment in time. And I will be happily telling
my son Harrison all about Ozzy Osbourne when he grows alder.
I gotta I gotta get him that bats, a plush
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bat you can bite the head off. I get to
do that maybe when it for his third birthday.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
That's not a not for a while. I don't want
him to.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Maybe I should not teach him that you can decapitate
animals so early in life. I caught him laughing hysterically
at Itchy and Scratchy when I was watching the other day.
So he already likes cartoon violence. So that's step one,
all right.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
So let me wrap up.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
This episode of Appetite for Distortion again at aftpod dot com.
To keep up to date with everything Appetite for Distortion,
I'm always updating YouTube with clips against social media Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.
All of that conversation continues in between the broadcast. I
will be back doing longer interviews. My throat is getting there.
(18:59):
I felt like I was knocking on Heaven's door.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But I'm all right. So when we see the.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Next episode of Appetite for Distortion, well, in the words
of Axel Rose concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know as
soon as the word, but you'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
It thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.