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April 27, 2023 • 118 mins
This has been a tremendous off-season for the Atlanta Falcons. The NFL Draft will be the final leg. Who will they draft with their first round pick? Will they move up in the draft? How will they finish out the roster? It will be a fun few days. Tune in and lets talk about it!! Tonight you can call into the show at 6466524479 or chime in on the chat line. Please tell other Falcons fans!!And yes, of course we will talk about the Atlanta Hawks and their big win last night!!You can listen to past episodes of Around The ATL on Spotify, IheartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music and other outlets. Be sure to follow on Facebook and Instagram on IMTM Worldwide Radio. Follow on Twitter @intellectatl and @jordan23atl. Subscribe to the IMTM Worldwide Radio Youtube page. And be sure to visit www.imtmworldwideradio.com. Please share!!
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quick. So a lot of stuffis happening this week, obviously in Atlanta
sports, but tonight, of courseis the NFL Draft Show twenty twenty three,
talking a lot of Atlanta Falcons football. So what we're gonna be talking
about, We're gonna talk about whatare the Falcons gonna do at number eight?
Are they gonna move up, they'regonna move down? How are they

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finish out the roster after a verysuccessful free agency period? What do you
think the Falcons are going to dothis year after everything is said and done,
So we'll talk about that. Ofcourse, last night we saw one
of the most exciting playoff games inAtlanta Hawks history. We know, we
all know the history between the Hawksand the Celtics over the decade. So
last night definitely was a highlight forthe Atlanta Hawks. You know, Trey

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Yon took over in the fourth quarterand well, you know what, let's
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could just play that clip the restof the night. They'll want me to,
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dynamic in his viewpoints, he's veryknowledgeable. Um, he loves going over
games fille. So he's gonna befilling in for my co host Jordan Jackson
tonight. His name is John Harris. The store ahead and bring him into
the show right now. John,How are you doing sir? Pretty good?
Sir, Ladies and gentlemen, howare you night? Well? Doing

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well? Um? Am? Iand you introduced me as a treat now
you know I advied everyone watching meright now don't don't you be on a
high resolution TV. Will be justback o. Here we go. Um
and actually looks like we have ourco host who's just called in as well,

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so let's go ahead and bring himin. Hey, Joan, what's
going on, sir? What's goingon? Sir mister Harris? Sorry,
sir man, how you be tonight? I'm doing well man, you know
at work, but I've been ableto sneak and call for a few minutes
before I got to jump back toduty and hopefully I'll be able to join.

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Um. You guys for the lastpart of the show. Um,
at the very least, once Ido have to go, let's figured I
might as well come jumping up withyour folks for a little while while I
have a second. Appreciate that.Appreciate that. So so first things first,
So let's review some of the offseason moves. We know that the
Falcons for a long time has hadissues at depth, um and and just

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skilled talent wise on the defensive sideof the ball. So the Falcons went
all out this year. They say, we have the money, finally we're
gonna do something about it. Sothat's one of the first things I want
to kind of just broach briefly.Um and either of y'all can kind of
chime in. Let me see ifI can pull it up real quick,
give you a second. That's adepth chart that drive as sign us.

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So I'm gonna name some of thesepeople, UM, and anybody can kind
of throw out there what they thinkof any of these players. Some of
them are current players. Guy,I can said, it's a free agent
and also free agent moves outside ofwho we already had. So I'm gonna
just name names real quick. Um. Caleb mcgari obviously offensive tackle h Taylor,
Honikey quarterback. He's a backup.Jesse Bates safety, Um David on

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your Mata defensive tackle. Um Iffidiwas signed offensive tackle mc collins, while
receiver Mike Q's cornerback, Their Armstrongcornerback, Jay Davis linebacker, Bradley Pinion
punter, Keith Smith's fullback he's backagain, Kaden Ellis linebacker, Lorenzo Carter
defensive end. Those are just someof the guys that we we did,

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you know, bring into the folds, or to speak, any of those
players you know that stand out toyou as far as their importance in the
stream of things of this coming season, either offensive decent defensive side of the
ball, either of you. Heygeorgan boyhead then you gotta limited time.

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Then, sir Um, I thinkCollas Campbell has one. Keith sliding,
not only because he's very very productiveplayer, but also I think he'll be
a guy that can help mentor someof these young defensive linemen that we that
we will bring in. He couldbe a great mentor for a potential draft
pick that we'll get into here alittle bit later. If that potential draft

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pick is there and the factors doselect him. UM, so he's a
key signing. Absolutely. Jesse basis absolutely a key signing as well.
UM safety UM, very good incoverage, will also come up and hit
you. And he's a guy who'sum very rarely penalized in the secondary.
Um also and so I think he'salso a definitely key signing. Caden Ellis,

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linebacker brought over from the rival ain'tsuh seven sacks last year. Versatile
linebacker, a guy who can coversong, who can also get to the
quarterback, which is you know,always a need here in Atlanta. UM.
David Ayamala as well, UM providingsome more beef up front, um
should help the Facers have a verygood run defense uh this year. Um.

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Even the corners that they signed andtraded for as well are also good
run defenders. So I certainly thinkthat that's gonna be a strength of the
Atlanta defense. And you know,anytime you can make a team undamental where
all where all they really candidates passthe ball that allows you to get to
the quarterback and pin your ears backa little bit easier. UM. So
I think those are key signing aswe signers as well. I mean,

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I'm sure there are others but Idon't want to name every single signing,
so does has go ahead? Sir, oh man, that's all right because
I'm like I'm telling Chris earlier,I am account of a novice that this
because he I like the judge playerswant they get a boy football. But

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thing is that it's great sluted to. You got people that we had last
year that contracts in it and roomand we resigned. And he of which
that I was looking at was CalebMcGarry. Now, if you wanted to
see and over the summer project cometo fruition, he was one because he

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was already but he turned into vainfrom that man in one scene because I
mean, I'm seeing vains bothered outof his man all that I didn't see
last and had a heart problem,you know, and it was scary me.
But he was scaring me for adifferent reason this year, because that
man, that man got big.So he took his off season seriously and

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improved himself last year and showed whathe had gained by his place. Because
the Falcons, if nothing else,offensively, we could run, and I
mean we could run. We couldroll bread and we could run. Now
to protection tard that to give itfar, so I'm interested to see how

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that's going to work out for AlaHeinecki as well as Desmond River. As
we picked up Phila Heineck as afree agent bag up and he knows what
his job is. He's gonna bebagging up assisting in the upan Desmond River,
who didn't you know, made thestart on the defensive side of the

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fall. I'm glad to see thefour four graded Derek as the helm.
There were people that were saying thatthe past couple of years Brady Jarrek had
played up the expectations, But Idon't know what they were looking at,
because when you saw last year,that man was doing the same thing he's

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been doing ever since he's been here. But he didn't have any help to
Kalis Campbell there. And it wasa couple of other people. I'm gonna
have to look and see, butI'll give you one name real quick,
John. I get one name realquickly, guy, a name that I
didn't mention prior to, and thatis the defensive tackle Eddie Goldman. Now,

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we signed Eddie Goldman prior and duringnot this offseason, but the off
season before, and he immediately retiredformer Chicago Beart, but now he has
come out of retire I meant tojoin that group as well. So I'm
actually thinking that we're gonna have oneof the strongest groups up front that we've
had in several years. But thatdoesn't mean we shouldn't stop adding to that
group exactly. Go ahead. That'strue. That's true, and that's and

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that's I believe that's gonna get meto what we do with this draft.
Did now whenever we want to talkabout that, that that's gonna say way
into that because that's going to bekind of interesting what you do with number
eight. Yeah, So let's talkabout the best arnt a little bit then.
So um Jordan actually kind of mentionedone of them, you know,

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he mentioned Eddie Goldman coming out ofretirement. So that so that's start.
Let's talk defense first, because that'sbeen most important over these last couple of
years, in this off season sofar. So you have campbell Um on
your mata, Jarrett Grady, JarrettBud Dupree, Um, Kaden Ellis,
Troy Anderson, Lorenzo Carter Age,Terrell, Richie, Grant, Bates,

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Acuta, and Hughes. That's yourfront. That's your that's your your starters
as of right now potentially, andthen right behind them you have to quan
Ground. You got Eddie Goldman,you got Timmy Horn, you got um
I can't oga daiji. There yougo, Nate Lammon, I don't really

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know a lot about you know,we got Michael Walker AK forty seven,
of course, Darren Hall, JalenHawkins, Michael Abernathy and Cornell Armstrong along
with de Offer. He's still hereas well. So when you're talking about
your first and second and interchanging andjust depths, injuries, the whole nine
yards, this time, you don'thave just a precipitous fall off as we've

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had in the past. You knowwhat I'm saying. You know, if
this guy can get to the quarterback, this guy also can get to the
quarterback, and this guy can makeit back. This also can make a
tack backtrack and they were the receivergot do it too. So I think
that right there, plus of course, and I forget his name already,
right there, our defensive coordinator who'san expert on the defensive line side of

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the ball, but also of coursefocusing on getting to the quarterback. Having
all of this talented around him.Hey, excuse me, the utilization.
I think it's gonna be huge andbasically stopping people for the first time ever.
Because if anybody noticed again last year, look at all those close games
where we were in if we justhad to stop here, stop there,

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stop everywhere, how many more gameswill we have won just by the fault
to fight all the other crazy stuffthat was happening. Right. So that's
on the defensive side, in inIn Georgia or um um Yard. I
want to mention that because I wantto go over the offense real quick too,
and then we can talk about both. The name you're looking for is

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Ryan Nielsen. That's the defensive coordinator. Came over from the enemy New Orleans,
but you know they have had quitea perocious defense over in recent years.
One thing, though, I thinkpeople need to be cautious because I'm
hearing a lot of people say,well, we won't draft this player that
player because he prefers bigger defensive ends. But I don't think that it's proper

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to automatically assume that he's gonna runthe same scheme here that he ran in
New Orleans. For one, hewasn't in charge of the defense in New
Orleans, he was defensive line coach, so you know, he didn't really
have the authority to say whether theywere gonna run a four three or three
four anyway. And bottom line is, you know most teams played nickel majority

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at the time anyway, because mostteams are using three wide receivers on the
high percentage of the time. Now, obviously they're various nickel looks. You
can play nickel with four down oryou can play nickel with three down,
three linebackers behind them. Um,but ultimately, I think we need guys
who can get to the quarterback,whether they're bigger defensive vans or rather they're
the more slim, you know,speed micial type guys. That's a good

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point. Um, we don't wantto make that assumption just because so everything
is gonna be brand new this year, you know, virtually, right,
So this is gonna be a learningprocess, you know pretty much for everybody
real quick. On the offensive side. Excuse me, but by the way,
I can said, yeah, I'mfeeling not my best, but I'm
here on the offensive side. Onthe front end on the receivers, we

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got Drake London obviously got the newlysigned Mac Collins, Um, Scott Miller.
On the offensive line, you gotJake Matthews, Matt Hennessy, Drew
Dahman, Chris Lindstrom, and theaforementioned Caleb McGarry. Tight end, you
got Kyle Pitts, and then ofcourse you got Densmon Ridder at running back,
Tyler Algier and then fullback Keith Smithnow Keith Now Behind them you got

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Frank Darby, UM, Cadaryl Hodge, Jared Bernhardt. UM. I mentioned
the feedy earlier, Jalen Mayfield,Um Newzelle, Ryan Newzell, Justin Schaeffer.
We're gonna see what he can dothis year. Definitely, Joshua Miles
and John new Smith. UM.I don't really want to get into the
third string, but those that's yourthat's your first and second layer when it

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comes to the offensive side of theball. Um, how deep do people
think we are at those positions?That's that's that's kind of the premise of
this draft as well. You know, as far as what you might do
at that eighth spot. Um,you got people saying all kinds of stuff.
I want to get into that yearsyet, but just on the offensive
side. Death wise, with y'all, think so far. UM. I

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liked some of the things that we'vedone offensively depth wise. UM, the
gentleman Um Hollands, the wide receiverthat we picked up from the Raiders.
UM, a good position receiver,good eyes on him, had kind of
a breakout campaign for Oakland last year. And he's also a guy who I
think he can step in and doa decent Drake London and impersonation if something

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happens to Drake. And I sawanother wide receiver that we picked up from
one of our other hated rivals,the Yuckaneers, that Scotty Miller, slot
guy, speed guy. UM,somebody who will be able to run up
the scenes and put some pressure onthe opposing team's safeties, which should help

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us in terms of, you know, just making the passing game a little
bit more explosive. UM. Youknow, a lot of the other offensive
pieces I think are holdovers. Butyou know, I'm just excited to see,
you know, the growth in guyslike Caleb mcgarritt. Can't he take
another step even further than what heplayed last year? UM don't know how

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much better christ Lysterton can get.Just for some fact that last season he
was best guard in all of theNFL, so be interested to see if
he can repeat that season as well. But you know, well, as
always, trench player is going tobe key um. As John mentioned earlier,
we run the ball very well.The officers line is a great run
blocking officer line. It's gonna beinteresting to see if we can take the

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next step and be better at passprotection if we decided to open up the
office a little bit more this year. Any comments on that jar everything left
Chris Lindstrom causes me nightmares. Ohwow, because Dolmen at center. I'm

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glad Ridder has children already because itsDolwin as crazy as he has been snapping
it that man won't have kids forthe rest of his life. That's a
valid point, sir. They feelbeside him. You know, there used
to be some bad turnstiles. Areyou sneak through to get to the movie?

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A green riding the ball and startedplaying for about and then on that
end, Patthews is getting old.I wasn't really impressed with him from the
beginning when he first came here,but you know, people said he was
serviceable and all that, and theydidn't want to upgrade, and you know,

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you just got used to him justletting people go back. So that
left side, which is the mostimportant side supposed to live for an offensive
line, is such thing for pastblocking. So and like Chris he was
saying, we would have good startersand that line like we had back in

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twenty sixteen. They worked as aunit because they didn't have any injuries on
that last so they got a chanceto gel together and to cover for each
other. You get that type ofchemistry going. Even if you put somebody
into rest on one or two ofthem, they're cover for him. They'll
absorbed the fact that he wasn't inon a lot of the places whatever.

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Last year, it was a situationwhere none of that was really going on.
Not fast flock, that flass flocksat buzz. The fact that strict
running that we do, we aresusceptible to the aide gap flips on either
side of the center. You didn'thave anybody that could stop it. You

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had to get rid of the ballor run play catching an awful guard.
You know, that would be theonly thing that ever saved. So that
is the most worthsome part of theteam right now. I'm more confident in
the defensive of justustments and acquisitions wehave than I am. What I see
with the offense's definitely something that it'sfrom what we saw last year. I

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mean, you can't get around thatit actually happened, you know, So
that goes into you know, howhow do we go into that? Now
we can segue, you know,what do we do with that first round
pick? You know, do wedo something on the offensive side to do
something on the line again, dowe continue to concentrate on the defensive side
of the ball to continue to strengththat that and get into the best player

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whether it be a cornerback or edge. You have a lot of people talking
running back to say we might aswell go ahead and get the best running
back in the draft. Things ofthat nature. So let's go ahead and
go on that. And Enjority,you were about to say something to sound
like I was just the same thekind of sick way as well. You
know, I totally agree with misterHammers on that that is definitely one of
the weak points on the team,the particularly the guard center, the center

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and the and the left guard becausewe know the right guard is strong and
so you know, one thing Iwas gonna say is I know A lot
of people are totally opposed to takingan office ave lignement with eighth pick,
but I am not among that numberof people. Now, mind you,
if you take an officerive line ofthat high, my certainly expectations are for
him to develop into a perrunt ofyour pro bowler and all pro in NFL,

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All Pro. But if if youtake a lineman he becomes that,
then you certainly made a worthy pick. Because I know it's not sexy.
I know you don't have great highlightsof offensive lineman, you know, leaping
in there and scoring touchdowns and whatnot. But they are a key part of
the team. I don't care howmuch the game changes, the officer line

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is always going to be a keypart of the football team. And now
I wouldn't want to take a guywho's gonna be strictly a guard his entire
career at number eight. But ifyou if you get me a young guy
and you tell me you can startthat left guard this year and then eventually
kick out to left tackle and replaceJake Matthews, oh yes, count me
in on that, gentleman. There'sone guy that I'm looking at on one

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of the marks saying they stay computerScleronsky from Northwestern, This dude looks huge.
Um, I don't know about mucha balance because I hadn't been paying
attention on the offensive line side ofthe ball. I won't be I won't
why. But like you said,Jordan's the one thing about the offensive line
is your quarterback stays on the fieldfor a decade if you got the right

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guy right depending on what Sidey's onor whatever, and or your running game
always has holes for a decade dependingon who that person. You know,
Um, your your timeline as faras having a really good player at a
young age develop into that definitely,if you're picking them that high, it
has to happen, right. Butyou know, there's always that side of

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where people say, well, youhave a lot of people who are offensive
linemen that were drafted second, third, fourth, fifth round and everything.
So if you go that high,you know, it almost has to be
a sure thing. Although we knowthe draft is you know, not a
guarantee. Um, but you're right. I know a lot of people are
not going that route as far aswhat their mindset is, but it's still

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a position of need. Like nobodycan just say, like you know,
even though the line did good atthe run blocking, like like John said,
the pass blocking was still something thatwe kind of you know, well,
it can still be improved upon rightover time, and then you know,
like I said, Jake Matthews eventuallydoes have to be replaced. So
that is something to think about,right And I'll just add let me let

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me go back to Southern John mentioned, under no circumstances do I see Jalen
Mayfield starting at left guard. Ijust don't see that happening. Um,
you know, he just I don'tthink that he could have improved that much
in one season on the bench toturn from the great turnstyle. He was
into a guy who saw enough inthat position. You've mentioned Peter Scarromski um

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six foot four, three hundred thirteenpounds UM out of Northwestern. He's one
of the candidates in that spot.Honestly, that are guys who are candidates
in my opinion. You also haveParis Johnson officers tackle out of Ohio State
six ft six, three hundred andthirteen pounds. Definitely a guy who's worthy
of consideration in that area. AlsoDarnell right officserve tackle from Tennessee. As

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you guys know, I'm usually partialto taking SEC guys because you know they've
been through the battles. You knowthey faced the best defensive a linement in
college when they come out of theSEC. He's six foot five, three
hundred and thirty three pounds, sohe definitely has that good size to be
a road grader for of the AtlantaPokers team. And I've got it's a

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guy who I'm partial too, becauseI'm biased when it comes to Georgia Bulldogs
Broderick Jones. Now, scouts havedifferent opinions on him. Somethink he could
be a top ten, top fifteenpick. Somethink he's the early second round
pick, six foot five, threehundred and eleven pounds, and he also
has some experience playing a different spotsin the line, include guard. So
I think he's a guy who couldabsolute the step right in and do a

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good job at guard and then leta kick out the tackle um and be
your starting left tackle. So here'sthe deal. Oh go ahead, John,
Oh go ahead, because guy wasgonna go to something. But go
ahead, you might you might seton it. Well, well, I
was gonna say, is since we'retalking on the on the offensive line,

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side of the ball. Um.The other offensive player is a running back.
So when you're talking about our offensiveline and what we did at running
back, we all know that Tylerdid a great job even though he didn't
start. He wasn't even really gettingtouches until I think Week four, and
he still got a thousand yards.So that says a lot right there.

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But you still have a lot ofpeople out there who say, well,
why not get mister Robinson at runningback? As you know your top you
know, one of your top offensiveplayers in college football. So let's allude
to that fact to say, ifyou don't get an offensive line un let's
just stay at the top pick andyou get a running back plus what we

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already have. How does that playa part in regards to saying this is
definitely going to improve the offense asit is now with bringing him on board
or any running back or you know, as far as that goes, because
I don't think, well, one, I'm gonna ahead and say it,
we didn't get no wide receiver ateight. I'll pull that out there right
now. Okay, but at thecome on, come on, So at

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the running back position, that isa possible probably more of a possibility than
any other position on the on theoffensive side. So let's just say if
it was mister Robinson by John Robinson, how would that play into what the
Falcons would do technically the rest ofthe draft, And how would he play
a part? Like, how wouldthat explain to our our audience? How
would that work if we were togo that route? As far as the

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benefits the pros Cons the whole nineyards well, Lejon Robinson running back out
of Texans five eleven, two hundredand fifteen pounds, four or four six
forty yard dash, very powerful runner. He also was one of the top
guys in forcing miss tackles as TylerAles year was the previous year coming out

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of college. Definitely, he'll makeus a more dynamic running game for sure.
Like I said, he has theability to be to play on third
downs as well. I'm just notbig on taking a running back that high
in the draft, Fellows, tobe honest with you, just for some
One of those things I think aboutwith that is that has one of the
shortest shelf lives of any position,and I hate to pick a running back

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that high. And even if hedominated first first three or four years,
and I hate to mention him becauseI'm a big fan of his, but
Todd Gurley, Look how quickly hefaded out when the injuries started setting in.
Now, granted Gurley did have andthey see l tear in college,
so jars probably a little bit betterwhen you talk about injuries not having injuries

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early. But you know that's stilljust the most physically demanded position in the
league and take the most hits,so it has the shortest shelf life.
Now, if we were to tradeback, like there has been some rumors
and pick up an extra second roundpick or something like that, then I
would feel a little bit better abouttaking him. I just feel like if
you take a running back in thetop ten, he should be a guy

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that's that you plan on giving seventyfive of the carriage. Too. With
having Tyler Alzier here, who rushedfor over one thousand yards as a rookie,
I think he deserves more than twentyfive percent of the touches, so
you'll be looking at more of afifty fifty split. I absolutely think we
and plus we have Cordarrell Patterson aswell, who's more of a you know,
Swiss Army night guy. Would doa little of everything. Do I

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think we need to take a runningback in this draft? Yes? I
do. Do I think that weneed to take one at number eight?
No? I do not, gentlemenabout not taking him at number eight because
Ja Huntley. I think he missesAchilles though, but I think he's going
to be ready as it don't rememberfight thee might be ready end of October,

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heat into November. And if TylieTyler l Jeer is your man,
you just got him last year.You just bought that car last year.
All right, Well are you goingto stead up being by another one when
you can't drive? But one ata time, you know, and you

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got two cut ones that can sparehim. Now, um drafting him in
the third, second, third,fourth round or drafting that Nick's running back
in the second, third or fourthround, Fine, do that, do
that, But um, now Ican't go. I can't go along with

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getting the running back no matter youknow who who they are, because you
know and entriesce you play a partin everything, But you don't have the
money, You don't have the capspace to cover everything coming out of the
draft and lock yourself down into along term commitment to somebody every position can't

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do it six four six six fttwo four four seven nine don't you can
call you to the show. Wehave some people who are watching the show
on the YouTube, so thanks toTorreon watching, um Steve from Atlanta burd
Games watching as well. Appreciate that. One thing I wanted to mention is
real quick, real quick. Christophercould just to say, John, that's

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an excellent point you just made.And that's one thing you have to think
about when drafting these guys. Ifyou draft these guys high and they all
work out, you're gonna have topay them a nice amount of money on
their next contract. And so you'vearen't taking two skilled position players in the
first round the last two years inthe top eight. So you take a
running back in the top eight aswell, you're looking at having a lot

(33:55):
of money, you know, threeor four or five years down the line,
you're looking at having a bunch ofmoney into offensive skill position players,
which puts us right back in therealm of the way the team was built
during the Thomas de Mitrof error error. That's something I want to avoid.
I would love our salary cap tobe a whole lot more balanced. Between
offensive defense, you know, fromfrom now going forward, and you're putting

(34:19):
yourself in a position to be anoffensive heavy, salary cap team once again
if you continue to draft only offensiveskill position players in the top ten.
I had to do the retro activedue on Thomas de Mentroff's name day mentioned
on the show Soft to Date andreally yes and trying to go back and

(34:52):
check on things. Oh my goodness. Oh that now you think that was
shocking? I hope, Jordan,I hope you're sitting down because Thomas and
Metro Did you hear that say itagainst you? No one? That is,

(35:13):
I heard some of it. Don'tgo right ahead, sir, he
picked big beas that no one,he didn't have a passion for football.
Oh yeah, he as on theass. Jordan. Yeah, oh man,
I'm glad I did. I'm glad. I wasn't listening. I was
Oh boy, man man, ohhurts, Oh my goodness. But years

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later away from the organization. Can'tget fired, can't get the warning letter,
can't get suspended. Oh yeah,you can deal deals out of school
then wow. So here's what dealis then? So if we don't get
our you know, oh, that'sall I'm gonna say, so what was
I was just looking at the factthat all the other teams or all the

(36:04):
other pun nits and article riders andthings of that nature, none of them
have Robinson going that high either.So why would the Falcons take him at
that particular pick when you have somepeople saying, well, he's late first
round if anything. You know whatI'm saying. You had one team,
you had one mock that showed himgetting picked like tenths or something like that,

(36:27):
right, but why would the Falconsgo all out when at the end
of the day, and Jordan kindof alludes to it as well, you
don't typical together running back that highand if you did, you're definitely gonna
pay him long term. And wedon't want to go that route when we
have all these other players that weworked so hard to get the depth on
the side of the ball that wereally needed, you know what I'm saying.
So that's gonna be a big deal. So if we don't go offense,

(36:49):
let's let's knock that out. Thenext thing would be quick update,
Quick update, Chris. When yougo to the next thing, I'll just
check the XSL steps on Vic Beasleyhe's he's played seven games. He has
seven tackles and one half a sackin the XFL gentleman in the XFL in
seven games. So yeah, Ijust thought that that would be an interesting

(37:14):
oh what basically half basically says andproves how bad Thomas and Misstrof is because
if he can't even go to XFLto say, here's my redemption period right
here, I'm half a sack.I don't know what one tackle, one

(37:37):
tackle per game, seven games,seven tackles. That's about as damning as
you can get on a position player. That was deep. Wow, that
is that's I'm just really sad aboutthat right now that I don't even know
what to say. I really reallyreally really do. Hey, but hey,
he's he's he's playing, I guessit. And you know what,

(37:58):
despite that, it's gonna be it'sme that will put a flyer out on
because somehow they'll they'll determine how thatwill was to correlate into going into the
NFL and hey, maybe he'll bea special teams player. I don't know,
but he can't be on the defensiveline of any teams that I know
about. I'm just saying so Wow. That's again it just shows how bad

(38:23):
it was for that period of timeand how much better we could have been
if we had had somebody just alittle bit more more making those decisions and
who we did, because you sawwhat happened over that period of time and
now the changeover at this point overthe last three years, how drastically different
it is now. So we canappreciate it for what it is. But

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that's messed up as all I cansay. Six four six six fo two
four four seven nine is the lineto the show. Y'all. We got
COO host Jordan Jackson, and wegot a special guests mister John Harris.
Fucking Atlanta Falcons football. But justas a reminder, just real quick,
something really cool happened yesterday. Here'syoung backlack young back. I did you

(39:19):
hear the person in the background aswell? I remember hearing it on the
on the telecast for the person usinga little bit of language there because they
just couldn't believe what did happened.They were like, holy yeah, they
shot you did that? Chris.I got I gotta say some a few
words real quick. Okay, that'sthree straight games. Let's three three straight

(39:40):
thirty plus point games of the playoffsfor mister Trey Young. Okay, included
in those three straight thirty point games, there's a fifteen assists game and a
thirteen assists game among those three,plus another six assists. Let's old thirty
assists combined in those three game playoffgames. After the Miami series and the
first game of this series, I'mstarting to hear talk among fans as well

(40:06):
as a month to talk in theheads on TV the Trey Young could not
play the playoffs. Shut up,I don't want to hear it again.
Okay, three straight thirty ploy games, he's leading the entire playoffs and assist
Truman is a big top performer.He lived for these moments. He is
all superstar. So just learn tolive with it and for the audience.

(40:29):
We will be doing some Hawks talkin the near future. Hopefully we can
win games six and make it agame seven and we definitely be hearing us
do a whole two hour show ofHawks talk at that point. Um take
four six, six, six,five two four four seven nine, So
back to talkin So if we don'tgo offense at all at that top eight
pick and we don't move around alittle bit. What do we do on

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the defensive end them? Because atthis point now you're looking at getting a
player that could be the eventual starter, probably sooner than later, possibly depending
on who you get, and ordefinitely a chief piece on the depth side
of the team. Um, sois it gonna be your edge rusher?
Is it gonna be your cornerback?So, John, I don't know if

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you have a preference or not towhere we want to go. All right,
I got George, all right,George appreciate being able to join.
George was only a pretty quick,real quick, real quickly go ahead.
I mean, obviously you talked aboutgoing to the defensive side. I obviously
would prefer to go up front overcornerback, even though all of them our
need. Um, if somehow,I don't know if it's gonna happen,

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but if somehow Jalen Carter of theUniversity of Georgia slips to number eight,
run that cart up there as fastas you can. A matter of fact,
you don't hind you same boat.Just work for the packers for a
day and have him run the cartup there. Okay, because I think
that's your guy. If he's pickedObviously I'd love to get will Admason out

(41:58):
of Vala Valma, but I believehe's gonna be long gone. But he's
another edge guy I'm interested in.Also interested in Tyree Wilson out of Texas
Tech if he's around. Also I'ma Nolan Smith guy. Now maybe he
would be better to get if wetrade it back, But just that level
of physical talent as well as beingan intelligent football player, I think if

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you're going to take a risk ona guy, you know, do the
physical talent, he's a guy youdo it with. One of the main
things I look for in the edgerusher is a guy that has the ability
to bend and flex his way aroundthe corner. And Nolan is as flexible
as he gets ran like a fourthree nine forty, so he's as fast
as a wide receiver or a runningback. And one thing about it,

(42:40):
you can't look too much into statswith you ga defensive players because they rotate
a whole bunch of guys up front, and plus they blow a lot of
teams out, so they're sitting quitea bit and they don't put up the
stats. We also know he gotinjured last year, but those are some
of the main guys I like,and I guess after that up front,
the last guy mentioned will be MilesMurphy out of Clemson. UM. I

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know a lot of people also talkabout Kyle um then Ness out of Iowa,
but I am not comfortable with takinghim at number eight. But he
would be somebody I could understand takingif you had a trade down. Um,
gentlemen, I gotta go duty callsUm and Jordan choppling it up with
you guys for a short time.I will rejoin the show Chris if possible

(43:24):
before the end. All right,appreciate it. Jordan, talk to you
soon. Man. Thanks against callingin So to follow up on Jordan Um
one thing actually he mentioned. Iactually didn't get a chance to pull it
up, but he mentioned about stats, okay, and in college football there

(43:45):
are a lot of people that justgo bananas when it comes to stats.
Now, sometimes it's very evident whenyou have a player with the statistical you
know, background and things of thatnature accomplishments, but it always does not
translate. Quarterback is one of thosepositions. And earlier on Twitter, I
went through a whole bunch of quarterbacksthat had all the stats in the world,

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but they didn't make it in theNFL. And we're talking about top
tier guys. We're talking about theguys who in two years we're averaging forty
five touchdowns with seeds the type ofthe deal and didn't really work out in
the NFL. Marcus Mariota just oneof them that y'all know who I'm talking
about, right then, right,So when it comes on the defensive side
as well, Jordan just kind ofmentioned it. When you have real depth

(44:32):
in the college football game, youknow, it's hard for someone to say
somebody's gonna have ten stacks, twelvestacks or whatnot when you have that kind
of depth and we have a toback national championship team to prove that,
right, So when it comes tothe needs of the team and saying we're
gonna have that proverbial edge rusher,you know, Jordan mentioned a couple of

(44:54):
them. I'll throw them out thereagain. Just the top ten ones.
You got, Will Anderson Junior outof Alabama, Tyree Wilson out of Texas
Tech, Nolan Smith out of UGA, obviously, Bias Murphy out of Clemson.
UM George mentioned them, Lucas vanNeeth out of Iowa Will McDonald the
fourth out of Iowa State, umB J o'dillarry out of LSU. I

(45:17):
cannot get this one from northwester andI'll just call him double a keyon White
out of Georgia Tech. And thenFelix Ali you duke k us use Zona
out of Kansas State. So overyour top ten. Now myself, I
definitely would go towards it got downto it, Nolan Smith and Nora will
Adderson, but Will probably won't bethere as far as a position of need

(45:42):
as far as the other teams thatwould be above us UM. But again
that's why I said, you know, can you move up or not?
And that's kind of where if itgot down to it, do you go
tackle and go after Jalen if hefalls far enough, and I think if
he goes to six, do youthink about going up? You know,

(46:02):
do whatever you gotta do to getthe six to go ahead and make sure
you get him to open it upeven more depth wise on our team and
then for the future, you know, for the Falcons on the line.
So John, I don't know whatkind of impressions you have on any of
these edge guys just yet. Beforewe're going to cornerbacks. But what do
you think as far as that goes, since we've done what we've done on

(46:23):
the free agent side, as faras depth and pass rushers and things of
that nature, do you go intothe draft and say this is the pre
eminent guy. I would think no. I would think no. And the
thing is about that, when youwere talking about stats just a second ago,

(46:45):
it made me think that to rankingsthat people were giving for life,
you have to look at the competitionthat those people pleaded. You just can't
go on the set. Okay,this man might have been a number one
offensive line offensive chap, but whatconsience did he play if he didn't play

(47:08):
in the SEC is in question?If he didn't if he wasn't playing against
SEC things a questions Because you weren'tplaying against top says call defensive linement going
against offensive line schout, if youweren't playing in the stec hey man,

(47:30):
you know all of that such thequestion Now, that is what the scouting
is. Our men's job is todo. You go out there and you
that was I guess the laundry list, and you go in find the best
chalid available exposition of need. Okay, down we go. I thought to

(47:53):
hold you accountable, mister scouting,missus director pros gallery, mister offense,
the coordinator. I'm gonna hold youaccountableman's offensive a defensive coordinator for you're a
laundry list. Okay, I'm gonnahold you, miss scout. Did you
bring back the best things on thatlaundry list that you can find? Individual

(48:14):
scout? Did you grade this personcorrectly when you went out and look for
that? Because thee a lot oftimes, and I made the example many
times before the Fathoms the Fathoms ScoutingDepartment, I wouldn't send them out for
a two or two feeds because theyallowed to bring back and two of preparations

(48:35):
just o's then a white and redtwo. Yeah, because you know you
didn't bring back the right thing.Peter Cones, that was another one that
Demitro was talking about. He knewthe man wasn't good, but got him
anyway. I said, come on, and then here we are all right,
Oh we got Peter Cones. Hy, he did this, he

(48:57):
did that, That did that?All right? Put them on the field.
I mean, man, I meanit was one of the worst disappointments
that ever been You know, butJ and and again that's where it comes
down to. It's like this newthe new regime that's been here. You
can't change your whole team in oneseason. You can kind of start doing

(49:17):
it in two. That third seasonis when you're going to see your precipitates
changed from where you started to now, whether it be on the contract side
and or on the talent side,if you got people who really know what
they're doing, and you also havea good coaching staff as well, and
we know we have all those elementswith the Falcon team as up right now,
and again that Vic Beasley pick alongwith other people I will not name

(49:42):
on the air right now because myblood pressure will just go up. We
know that the due diligence was notdone. It was not done properly.
It was haphazard at best, rightAnd I can use other words, but
I'm trying to be nice right now. Right. So, when you look
at the longevity of the winning teamover time, and you look at all

(50:05):
the other teams, whether it bein our conference or in the AFC or
whatnot, and you see the sameline in regards to positions and what side
of the ball, the trenches,the whole nine yards and you know,
those people are doing work, andit's like, how can we just have
that many people with nptitude nptude onour team in our organization over a period

(50:28):
of time to where you can't getnobody that can stop anybody on the defensive
side of the balls. That's kindof wild, right, And or you
can't get nobody to actually pass boxproperly so you're a quarterback ain't on the
ground all the time. That's kindof wild when all these other teams have
that. So what's going on?Right? So that's where, like I

(50:49):
said, people underestimate sometimes I thinkhow important that scouting department really is.
I mean, those people are gettingpaid too, by the way, like
they're getting stipens or trying haling andall this kind of stuff. I'm like,
what do y'all doing? Y'all playingXbox farli day? Like, what
are y'all doing? You know?So that's where we're going to really see
this these these last couple of years. And we've already seen it. Really

(51:10):
We've seen it with Toller, youknow, We've seen it with other players
that we have that are on theteam right now that are producing right and
now with this particular draft. Youknow, last year's draft was very important.
This year draft is gonna be veryimportant because now you're mingling in everything
else that they did on the freeagency side, specifically for the defense.

(51:31):
So that's kind of going into dependingon the edge rusher part or even getting
the tackle if it's Jalen Carter,do you go cornerback because with the edge
rusher part of it, or gettingsomebody else who can pass rush, right,
that's helping whoever you have in thatbackfield as a corner in the States,
because that's giving them a few moreseconds to actually stay with their guys

(51:52):
because now you know, you don'thave somebody just wide open making baking pancakes
in the backfield before they throw theball, because now we're on them,
like we're on them liquidly split now, right, But if let's say,
if we don't advance that edge,do we go cornerback and give the line
a couple more chances to get tothe quarterback cornerbacks, that are you know

(52:17):
possible for us right now? Letme see, it's like an find them.
So you have several Now we knowthe one name that everybody's been bounding
around is Christian Gonzalis. But youdo have the one that's ahead of him,
which would be Devon Witherspoon from Illinois. Christian Benzalis, as I mentioned,
is from Oregon, Deontay Banks,Maryland, Joey Porter Junior from Penn

(52:37):
State. Now we've seen him,I've seen him play a little bit.
Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State, CamSmith, South Carolina, Tyreek, Stevenston
Miami, Florida. DJ Turner fromMichigan, Clark Phillips. That's another good
one. I've seen him play Utahand then mister Ringo from Georgia. So

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I don't know if you know anyof these guys off the top, John,
but any of those stands out toyou to say, if we got
him at the as a top tenpick in the draft, can he translate
into the NFL quickly or will bea year or two? What do you
think? Well, I always counton a year or two. Hey,

(53:20):
any positions because the speed of thegame is going to be surprising versus what
it was that you would face.The speed of the game is going to
increase exponentially. Fact you being outthere with the best in the world,
because everybody's going to be starting allof their venterals that they're having at those

(53:42):
positions or draft picks. So youknow, hey, you you're really gonna
be going at the cream of theproblem no matter what position you're going in.
Now, my Georgia Bias would say, get ringoed out. Ever,
there are other people. There areother people around the country that complete cornerback

(54:06):
a little bit better than him.And you know, I've seen a couple
of moth basket the U put Witherspoonwasn't um I'll see, I must might
have gotten his name wrong, butyeah, they put him as someone to
watch or someone to get so andas a matter of fact, we did

(54:28):
pick up a cornerback in free agencyalso from Detroit, correctly so, and
we already have a good quarterback onthe other side, already have a doing
on the other side. Now,what I'm perceiving is that we are drafting
for depth. We have the luxuryof getting someone to bang up these people.

(54:52):
That's not, like you said before, a cliff diving drop offs from
the person and start. Yeah,and really at all positions that that is
the most important thing, because youknow, now last year we didn't have
the money, we didn't have themoney to do that. Plus the fact

(55:13):
we lost and this was an exampleof that that I had forgotten about.
We lost the linebacker last year becausewe couldn't afford the peach we lost.
Now everybody was talking about Dants,how good he was, how bad he
was. He wasn't able to dothis, he wasn't able to do that.

(55:34):
But because of the salary cap andour salary cap issues, we lost
a very important piece of the defense. Okay, Now we raised that man
up from infancy, so to speak. He raised the money from emphasy,
and then we hadn't let him go. Now you now have to build somebody
else up on the job. Trainsfollow coaches. Job is in the ballot,

(56:01):
you know. So, hey,you know a lot of a lot
of the things that people were complainingabout it was, you know, it
was basically out of the coaching staffscontrol, with the exception of one thing.
And will get to that when youget to it. Yeah, you

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brought up a good point, andthat was a big deal because I mean,
one of you was leading in tackleslike you take something likedy like that
off the team, and you knowit matters. It's something that is a
Stark contrast, have that as suretackle, especially in the box when you
need it. So that kind ofgoes into again, like I said,

(56:43):
and Jeff, I think it's JeffAcuda from Detroit that we got the young
player. We're gonna find out,you know, because he was a top
five pick as well in the draft, you know, so we're gonna see
and he's he's in the start asof right now on the death chart,
he's a starter. So that kindof goes into whether or not you're getting
an edge or not. You know, some people say, well, essence
the guy Campbell, we might notgo with the Russia, but Campbell might

(57:07):
only be here for one year,right and you have some other people who
might be coming up, you know, over time and things of that nature.
So it's gonna be very interesting.And if a gold corner or edge
or even to tackle it, likeI said, Jalen Carter and move some
people around or whatnot, because atthe end of the day, we got
to be able to get those stops, like so many games just last year

(57:28):
alone, if we had just gottena couple of stops, we win ten
games last year. All the crazystuff. We win ten games last year
and we couldn't get that one stop. And of course we can go back
a couple of years ago, butwe want to talk about that particular game.
So I think at the end ofthe day, is best to go
this route because all the other teamsthat are great over decades, these all

(57:51):
decade teams and stuff like that,they stop people and they do it all
the time. You know, it'slike they're bread and but it's their identity.
And that's the one thing that theFalcons have lapped for all of these
years against DP sent it. Thisdefensive team has been the bottom of the
league for almost two decades. Whenyou're when your defensive coordinator says that he

(58:12):
knows the history, he wasn't hereforever, right, that hurts they hear
it out loud again again again,but even more so when you got the
people in the organization actually saying it, because guess what that goes into the
people who, hey, guess whatthey're in charge of getting the people that
we need and you mess this up, right, Decisions Decisions like that matter
over time, and all we wantto see is a competitive team. We're

(58:37):
not asking for that much. Wejust want a chance, right, So
that's why I say, with Ritterbeing there and putting this team around him,
to where you have all these differentspecialty pieces, whether it be your
wide receivers, your tight ends,you're running backs, rollbacks, offensive line,
and then on the defensive side,who where if you got a quarterback

(58:57):
that's not making mistakes and can getyour team down the field, you run
the ball, controlling the tempo andeverything, and your team can get stopped.
You win a lot of games doingthat, as the Patriots, right,
as as Tampa Bay the last coupleof years, right as I mean,
it's as Kansas City too, nexttentright, ask all these teams that
have won after Philadelphia Eagles, Eagleswho won a super Bowl, how they

(59:21):
want to super Bowl? You knowwhat I'm saying. So it's one of
those things where you know, whycan't we do it? And here it
is now it looks like we cando it, and we're starting to put
all those things together and it's excitingto see. But it's just gonna be
a matter of what's really gonna happentomorrow, because again, the draft is
the draft. Anything could happen tomorrow. All of a sudden, the Falcons

(59:42):
having a number two pick in thedraft to marw we don't know, right,
you know, they might change theirminds all completely different, being like,
Okay, yeah, we're gonna goget this guy. This is our
guy, because that's what you gottado in the draft. If that's your
guy, you guys do wasn't necessaryto get them right, sacrifice whatever to
be able to get that guy.So that's the edge, rusher and corner
talk. As far as that goes. Now, I really hadn't talked about

(01:00:04):
linebackers because I think we're not gonnado too much. I mean, you
know, we have a lot oflinebackers. I think we're good there.
As far as that goes, TroyAnderson's gonna get a chance to prove him
tell people more um than he didlast year. I think he's gonna be
a great player. Um. Anyother positions that you can think of,
John that you think are gonna benoticeable all over, because oh, that's
all gonna do. So here arethe picks that we actually do have.

(01:00:28):
I can find it. Uh,let's see, Um I had it here
a second ago. Um, well, I can't find him now. You're
talking about order order of peaks?Correct? Okay, man, I hate

(01:00:50):
it also over and he can screechat the time on the phone because they
think goals. That's about twenty seconds. Okay, okay, we know we
got another eight. Oh there isokay, I got them. So first
round we got the eighth pick.Second round, we still have the forty

(01:01:13):
fourth pick. Third round, westill have the seventy fifth. Fourth round,
so we have one hundred and tenand one thirteen, so almost back
to back, and then we don'tpick again until the seventh where we have
two twenty four and two twenty five. So some of this is gonna be
really predicated on what you do inthose first two rounds, on whether or

(01:01:34):
not you keep those last two picksat seven and package them for something to
move up or something like that,or package one of the fourth rounds and
the seventh round for somebody you knowon the technical side. But you know,
then as a matter of are yougoing for the best player at a
certain point, right, you knowI had a particular position, you know,

(01:01:54):
do you do a wide receiver forinstance, you know we did do
some wid Steve for movement um infree agency, but do you go after
somebody else? Do you get anotherspecer for example, to you know,
get down the field to make thesafety's worry about stuff. You know,
do you do you get I don'tknow. I'm trying to think right now,

(01:02:17):
we got enough tight ends to savethe world right now, So I
don't think we're getting the tight endanymore. Um Oh, at running back,
because you have a lot of differentrunning backs that are going to be
available besides Robinson at that point,I can say you don't really get many
running backs until the second, thirdround, maybe even the fourth round sometimes,
right, so you have that opportunityto get some talent as far as

(01:02:39):
that goes offensive line, you know, depth as far as that goes,
and maybe find that dominant and roughagain as well. You're mentioned in Kevin
Ringo at cornerback. Is he areal press cover corner or is he more
of a roamer? What would weprefer on this team at this point?
And really do you just let thesafety's handle that? How does a deal?

(01:03:01):
I don't know. Um, Ithink I would rather have somebody who's
more of a cover corner in thatparticular case, press coverage and things,
because that's not something we've been goodat AJ And then whatever else happens us
a deal. Oliver is not hereno more. He's pretty good at that,
But you know, I would ratherhave some people who stop people at

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the line for getting separation off thejump and or can catch you all gone
it and and swipe away that balland or get an interception. One of
the things that we really need tobe able to do is get interceptions.
We have not been a big turnoverteam over the last couple of years.
Now, with that line as itis now, I think that's going to

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improve tremendously. But you still haveto have the cornerback to half the hands,
the vision to be able to sayI got this, I'm taking this
to the house, right, goahead, John, And oh what I'm
going to say. Looking at thedraft picks, I would be surprised if

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we trade that first round pick andmove down. Really, I wouldn't be
surprised if we do that, becausewe are still in need of a lot
of people. Even though we addressa lot of things and free agency,
we're still in need of a lotof people. And just like the okay,

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now you don't have one pick inthe second round, one pick in
the third round. Now that's Goronsky. The line of the offensive line and
they were talking about Now, Idon't know if I would dedicate a first
round draft pick. I don't knowif I would do that second round where

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you know de Metrop did get didhe get Lenstrom first? And then McGary
because he came back into the firstround and got one of those two.
I think it was okay, gotListening first, and then he came back
in the first round and grab mcgeary. Uh, well, we need we

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need, we need fast protection hill, So I might I Mike would go
along with him at eight now thatI think about that, but I need
at least two second round picks forwhat it is that we need as far

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as corner as well as and Iknow one's going to run into some resistance
as far as the concern well,I mean, I just don't think you
get one at the top of thein the first round. But anything anything

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after that, I mean I would, okay, because see this is where
we, like I said, wegot Drake m we have where Matt Collins,
Scott Miller, and then you gotFrank Darby, Cardell Hodge, Jared
Bernhardt and Rashaun Henry. You gotJosh Ali. I'm not I really don't

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know who he is at all.So if it got down to it,
yeah, do you put somebody elseout there at competition knock one of those
guys out? Sure? You knowwhat I'm saying. Again, whether it
be a speecher or whether it bea possession receiver, where it be a
mixture of the two. Um,I wouldn't mind being able to do that,
But it has to be somebody thathas that essence of they could grow

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into a threat on your team typeof the person. You're not just getting
somebody just for the stake of gettingsomebody. You need to be getting somebody
that can replace somebody that's already onthe team, possibly that's down in the
depth sort of speak, and canpossibly be on the field, you know,
because that's Christ. Now, see, this was the easy Christ.

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This was easy, But now it'sgetting difficult because they have to go into
when it is that I wanted togo into. Now I look back at
Tennessee as a team to determine whatAuthor Smith's actual offensive game plan is because

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he now the covers are off.He's made Dave Ragones, who was the
offensive coordinator, the quarterback coach,Charles London, And you know, I
went added Benight him as far astalking about him and here lack of qualifications
to be a quarterback coach is nowtaking the money he's stolen and gone back

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to Tennessee as their offensive coordinative slashquarterback coach after having done absolutely nothing here,
all right, knowing that and knowingthe history and knowing what happened this
tendency last year and the fact thatthey are now want malig Willis and they

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may be shopping Tannehill. Okay,Now, the only thing that Tennessee has
as a claim to fame as faras the offenses concerned is Derry Himmill.
Okay, the quarterback through the throughthe ball occasion. My question now is

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due to the number one lack oftraining that you gave your starting quarterback,
Mariota, your rookie that you draftedand cocked up on draft days talking about
how mature he was and what hedid is scenati and all this type of
stuff. The fact that you didn'tplay him until you were forced to play

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him, Because don't think that AutorSmith came to that conclusion on his own
yet not at all, he wastold to play him. Okay, I
don't know whether it was Austin Blanket. I don't know it was the general
medic It's the thing where I'm looking, like I said, when I look

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back in Tennessee and I look atwhat we did, Austor Smith, in
my opinion, at this point,they saw what I have seen. There
is not a lot of emphasis onthe quarterback position. Matter of fact,
I got to the point sometimes lastyear that the quarterback was just a nuisance.
I'm gonna run the ball. Okaythat that That's where I had gotten

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to last year. Because let's goback a little bit further. Matt Ryan
had completed his first year here withoffice men during the off season. You
made a place for Deshaun Watson,Joey that you did not land Deshaun Watson,

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or whether you did or not,you were gonna have to let Matt
Ryan go. It knew you weregonna have to do that. So you
went and rolled the doctors, allright, didn't get it, So pet
Ryan has got to go. Yougo and get married older. You could
have gotten married older while Matt Ryanwas here as a band gun. You

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could have done that. Man.Yeah, okay, but you were rintly
stuck and had to put somebody inthat quarterback position just to tide you over
until you got some money or couldgo back into the draft to end and
get somebody. That's why the Ridderpick was a knee jerk reaction, right,
you get Ridder. You don't havea quarterback coach there to coach anybody.

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Only quarterback coaching. This man wasgetting with us from Jordan Palmer prior
to the draft, and thank godhe's working with Jordan Palmer now because he
didn't get any quarterback training while hewas here. Yeah, the good point
now Ridder is here with Dave Ragonne. Okay, he's not gonna have Jordan

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Palmer on staff. He's gonna haveDave Regne. My faith and Dave were
gone. You could measure it witha spoon. So I'm not sure that
Arthur Smith values quarterback the same waythat we use the value quarterbacks when you

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had a Mike Smith, when youhad a Shanahan. Okay, because see
Shanahan and everybody can talk about Shanahan. He wants to this man took mister
irrelevant and being something out of it. I mean, nine quarterbacks were peaked

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before you got to miss the irrelevantat the end, of the draft.
On he throw away pick, youalmost got San Francisco super Bowl. So
yeah, so that's so, youknow, that's what really throws my thinking
into chaos as far as why asfar as any of those positions that require

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a cornerbacks because uh, what hereally wants, but he really won't.
From what I'm seeing out of wirereceiver, that wire the people can block.
That's that's this most important funk.Well, and I definitely can see
where you're coming from with it.But the only problem is you got to
have a quarterback who can actually playto win. And so at a certain

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point that quarterback has to make allthe throws. They gotta make smart decisions
over a period of time. UMwhen especially if the running game isn't working,
you gotta have somebody who can getthe ball down the field, um
accordingly, And so it would beit's almost like you're you're fighting like a

(01:13:26):
magnet, you know, right,you can't really do that. So that's
definitely gonna be an interesting thing tokind of play attention to um during the
rest of this offseason and going intotraining camp in regards to that, in
regards to the direction that Ritter isgetting because and this, I'll mention this.
I wish I could pull it up. I don't. I don't want
to try to find it right now. But I, like I said,

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when it comes to quarterbacks and accomplishmentsand stats and over a period of time
and things of that nature, it'sstill here or mix you know, uh,
whether or not they went to aschool that everybody knows about or not.
Like then, Roethlisberger didn't come froma school or a conference that anybody
knows about. He's a two termssuper Bowl champion, right. There's a

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whole list of them that didn't comefrom big schools where they have fifteen year
careers in the NFL, they've gotall the you know what I'm saying.
And but then you do have thecoach McCoy's of the world or Tim Tebow
or Johnny Manzielle Johnny Football where thatjameis Winston Fit's young young, right,

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you know, So when it comesto that, you have to look at
it even kill a little bit tosay, Okay, does winning games in
in college matter? Dude? Gettingforty five touchdowns a year matter? You
know? Or do you have theskill and ability to lead your team to
win and if coach ain't put ina good position, can you do it?

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Because that's Joe Flacco got put intoDoug Williams, Washington Redskins, right,
Grambling University. That's not an allconference you know, right, it's
not. We know that for afact. So there's a lot of examples
to say, yeah, you dohave the sum you know that came from

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you know, this background or whatnot, But then you have the others that
did not. You know, JoeMontana came from Notre Dame. But Joe
Montana you couldn't say like he wasan All world quarterback coming out not to
day necessarily, right, you know, he's not the biggest arm in the
world or anything like that, buthe won games, right, you know.
So that's why I'm looking at asfar as if author is you know,

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is going to continue to plug awayand push this team over the top,
He's going to have to take thatposition seriously. He's going to have
to make sure that people are inplace to make sure that Ritter gets all
the help that he can get,whether it be off the field as far
as to coaching X and those andthen of course on the field, because

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as much as we do run theball. We're still gonna have to get
the ball to your our receivers.Remember we did what we did last year
without our best tied end in Pits, right right, So you gotta take
that and consideration in consideration, Pitsis gonna be here. And I'm sorry,
I don't see no way, nohow that Pits ain't gonna get the

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ball properly from Britner, just knowingwhat he did just last year. He
is. See what I'm saying,there is an element of history going there.
You can see that he could doall the things you need a quarterback
to do and do them well.And he is the third most winning quarterback
of all time. You know whatI'm saying. That does count for something
now, whether or not it willtranslate altogether. But he didn't finish our

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season two and two, right,so you know he was five a bunch
of quarterback just to get started.He didn't have enough time to get more
playing time. I think we couldhave did something if he had started earlier.
So I've been I was saying ata third point, Marcus is getting
us one hundred and fifty yards agame, y'all, and turnovers. How
is that putting us in the bestposition to win games. This isn't logical

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anymore. Let's see what the kidgots, right, because we do have
a running game. We do havethat, right, So we were and
we were competitive, even what's thefoolery that Marcus was doing most of the
time. So that's why I'm confidentthat I think we're in a better position
no matter what, in a ina better situation than we've ever been in
many years at the end of theday, because now we do have the

(01:17:30):
money that we can We're gonna havemoney next year too. Right, the
situation is flush right now. Soyou're talking about that, like everybody right
now is definitely fighting for jobs becauseno sure thing right now. So that's
where this draft is so important aswell, on that depth side, because
if you get somebody who's really hungry, he could beat somebody out too.

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You know. It could be alinebacker, it could be a cornerback,
it could be a wide receiver forsure. Like probably wide receiver for sure
is probab. I believe the weakestpart of our game pass London, and
I can't forget to remember the otherguy right now. But if not,
like we have like a Star Warswide receiver room right now. Literally unless

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you count, unless you kind oftight ends. You kind of tight ends,
you kind of do. But itwe're just gonna go wide receiver.
It's Drake London and everybody else.Everybody else is gonna have to prove themselves
this year. So those names youcalled, it was only to London and
Darby, if I remember every year, had got a couple of passes here

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and there. Um, But Bernhardtnot really, uh I I don't even
think Josh Ali was, you know, Rashaan Henry No, So it's pretty
much Drake London and you know DarbyHodge. We did lose the receiver too,
I forgot um yeah, but Kusis gone, Oz is gone.
So we did lose a few peopleas well. Um, so we that's

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that's there, you go. That'sanother opportunity again to maybe replace somebody like
that in the draft. As faras that goes, this is gonna be
really interesting because like I said,we do have picks, but we were
the defense aside the balls want towin us a lot of games by the
fault and the offense to just dowhat they did last year and better,

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you know, again without the turnoversand actually getting the ball to the receivers
and the proper matter, not overthrowingthem and things of that nature. I
think we're gonna be in good shape, you know, for this season.
I've won the division. I thinkwe can win the division straight up.
Think we can win the division winningten games, definitely. I think we
can do that. I really dothink we can do that. I don't
see why we can't do that.Um that after that, I don't know.

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We'll have to see um. Butagain, we weren't seven games with
the foolery last year, and we'retalking about some foolery stuff after last year
without having again all the injuries again, not having that confidency at the quack
quarterback position. At the end ofthe day, you're getting full team back
this year, plus all the extraon the defensive side of the ball.

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I think we're I think we're keyedup to be able to do that this
year. Because that's just me.I might be crazy, but you know,
I rather think like that. Didn'tthink we're gonna win seven games again.
I just don't. If we dowin seven games again, yeah,
author might be on the hot seatoffice. So we just spent all that
money not for him to win sevengames. That's why I say that,
like there's a there. I don'tthink he's on the hot seat hot seat,

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But we can't regress anymore. Wecan't get any worse. Last year
we were what's the word, wewere prevented from winning basically because you know,
he assisted to keep playing Marcus manrealno no matter what, Okay,
it just what it is, whatit is, and at the end of
the day, we still didn't getstopped. This year, we're gonna get
stopped. So that's not gonna bean issue. We're not giving up twenty

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five points a game. We're notgiving up four hundred yards a game anymore.
I just don't think that's gonna happen. So on the offensive side,
if we control the ball, don'tturn over. Everybody catches the ball like
they know they can. Pitson Londondoing their thing. Joe New all those
guys keep keep doing his thing everynow and again. I think we'll be

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fine. I think we can wintha games. I think we can win
the division. The division is wideopen. This is about his wide open.
The division has been for the fistiesin a long time. I think
they need I think they can doit, and again once you get into
the playoffs. I didn't think ithappened. We know that for a fact
too. So now one thing thateverybody he's th realized. Our defense give

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up a tondred yards last year,but didn't give up a lot of schools.
He didn't give up four. Therewas only I think about two possibly
three games in the whole seventeen gameseasons over twenty five point there's three games.

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So we had drives, though itwere lasted. He turns. If
we would start from a five yardline and drag him a ninety five yards
rob like eighty seven yards rove orseventy five yards, right, we would
eat up clock. But if weever fell behind, we didn't have the
offensive firepower with the kitch back up. Okay, So I was encouraged by

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that defense because the day is whatyou keep off the score for that really
counts, you know, y'all.You can power up all the yards and
just then interjet real quick. Sokind of I was talking about the twenty
five points stuff from years past.You're correct, we didn't really give up
the points. It was just theyjust ate up the clock. And since
we didn't have it on the offensiveside. Yeah, we got behind.

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It was gonna be hard to thinkthat Americus Murray, Oh that was gonna
drive us down the field and geta couple of touchdowns or whatever, although
we saw we're gonna do that acouple of times. So I'm just saying
that's why I say I think we'regonna be better off long term, especially
with Pitts coming back, because Pitts, it's gonna just break open our offense
because he's always gonna get the ball. He's gonna be wide open. He's
gonna get it like there ain't gonnabe no question whether it be a slat

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or just going straight down the field, he's gonna get it. And we
got enough other people on the offensiveside of the ball to where they can
get it too. Coming out ofthe backfield, we can run all kind
of players now with running backs comingout of the backfield catching the ball now,
right, So I think that partof it is going to really open
up as well as the running gameis going to continue because those guys are

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gonna have another year now that theyhad that full year of being together.
You know that continuity on the runninggame is gonna be really well, they're
gonna take pride in that having thatthousand yards season. They're not gonna want
to not have another thous of theyards season amongst each other, right,
So I think that's gonna play aparta little bit too. So both sides
of the ball, offense and defense, and then even special teams is gonna

(01:23:47):
come into play again too. Youknow, can we stop teams from getting
big yardage on special teams coming upthe field? Can we open it up
even more than we did last year? We had a pretty good offensive side
the special teams last year. Canthat even get better? Possibly? Um,
I think that can be an improvementas well, because again, you
need all these aspects the fastest ofthe game to win these games on a

(01:24:11):
regular basis. Because other teams havebeen doing it, and like I said,
all I wanted to see our teamsdo it just one time. Can
we just have all of our phasesworking together all at once? Is that
too much to ask? And Ithink this season coming up, I think
it's going to be the first timethat we get to see it in a
while, and then it'll be continuousnext five, six, seven, eight

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years, and we have a windowto really compete for a championship eventually.
Again, so I can say anythingcan happen. Once you're in the playoffs,
you get hot. The other teamhas to play well too, and
that always don't happen, right,that's true. So it's a one game
playoff, and I like basketball atlike baseball, it's one game and team

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that shows up in those playoffs andat one game, one bone. And
hey, that's just nature of thebeach. Can't play a three game series.
Football, you can't play a twogames talking about basketball, young young,

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So first we hadn't had anybody callingfor football. I did want to
go ahead and talk a little bitabout basketball. Um, the last night
you had the Atlanta Hawks. Youknow, they were uh, pretty much
we're told that they were going toget swept by the current Eastern Conference champion
Boston Celtics and at worst a gentlemansweet but here we are going into Atlanta

(01:25:51):
tomorrow. He had to cancel theJanet Jackson concert. Uh, because we're
back in State Farm Arena to playgames six and you have, you know,
hate him, you know, didn'thave that great of a game,
you know, and you know,you know other players on that team.
And then one of the things thatby the way, again, if you

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didn't watch the interview of Bob Rapplingand Steve home in last Thursday, make
sure you go to IMT and WorldwideRadio and episodes one twenty three and one
twenty two on Around the atl Butone of the things Bob rapping staid in
that interview last week was that QuinceSnyder had a lot of playoff experience.
The Celtics coach does not, andthere's going to be an eventuality where that

(01:26:36):
is going to come into play,and maybe we're seeing a little bit of
And remember the Hawks has won twoout of three games now, right,
And there's one part of yesterday's gamethat I do want to point out,
and somebody I think he was onTwitter that mentioned it. Why exactly was
Blake Griffin in there for the periodof time that he was in the fourth

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quarter. I can't played at all, and now all of a sudden he's
in a crucial fourth quarter where you'reat home and you're trying to eliminate.
This is an elimination game. Okay, So that's just kind of you know,
I was like, I don't know, it didn't make sense either,
but it is what it is now. Will that play a part going into

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tomorrow? You know who can makethe adjustments and whatnot. One, Atlanta
has a momentum. They've won twoout of three and now they've won in
Boston, so they know if theycan win at home, they know they
have a shot game Steven Right Boston, on the other hand, they can
be like, Okay, well wedid everything we could stop trade. We
couldn't do it. And then Johnblew up, what are we gonna do?

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You know? And the bench playedwell again. Right Snyder did some
things. He didn't have Clint playthat fourth quarter. I think that was
probably the biggest part of the reasonwhy we won, because again I've been
saying, we're playing four and fivewith him right now. He's not giving
you anything on the offense. Hecan't give you anything on the offense inside
of the ball, he just can't. It's not him. And if he's

(01:28:01):
not getting lobs, there's nothing he'sdoing in that paint. He's not a
post player. He's never been there. Every now and again he'll get a
little aggressives and he'll go throw upthe baby hook every now and again.
But even last night, there wasthat one play where he was right there.
It was kind of like the AlHorford play where they passed it the
al Al was there that he passedit, kind of like a Ben Simmons

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thing and he doesn't see you witha wide open same thing happened with Clint
last night to where he was pointing, wait right there, And even Bob
Tailing on the telecast he was like, well, well, Clint didn't really
feel comfortable and but you gotta shootit there. You're right there. Like
whatever happens, we gotta live withit. But you were right there.
We needed those two springs right there, man, you know. So that's

(01:28:46):
why I said at the end ofthe day I wrote the article again about
you know, big old switching themand having him start or at least play
more minutes because he can hit shots, he can finish inside, and he
can play post defense. You know. Uh, he blocked shots. He
does all those things. So Ijust think it's a matter of transitioning them
because the goal is to win thegame, right, the goal is to

(01:29:11):
win the game. Actually, youknow what, I haven't played that in
a while, so let's see,like a foy real quick, I haven't
played that sounder in a long time. So let's see I can find it,
um coach, Oh goodness, letme see. If I can find
it. I have to play itbecause I've just thought about there we go.

(01:29:34):
Hello, Yeah, I had toI had to wait. I haven't
played that long. So that's thegoal, you know. And and again
um Snider even mentioned and he waslike, if the Boston stuff, I
said, win, small John,I'm not putting you back out there.
But they didn't go. Small Johnstays out there. He is so Shosa
whatnot. But it's a matter ofthe twist and turns of making decisions and

(01:29:58):
making the best decisions over time andbeing able to adjust. We should have
won Game four, Okay. Ifwe have won Game four all of a
sudden, tomorrow's an elimination game forthe Hawks. I think a lot of
people miss that too, right,So we could be in a three game
winning streak right now. So Ithink again, right now, it's a
matter of and I mentioned this onTwitter as well. The reason that you're

(01:30:23):
a fan of a team is thatyou always do believe, even if it's
a white belief, that your teamhas a chance to win, it has
a chance to advance has a chanceto win a championship or whatnot. The
reason that the King's winning their firstplayoff game in seventeen years matter the other
week was that all those fans continueto go to games from seventeen straight years

(01:30:44):
missing the playoffs every year. Right, So it's a matter of watching Trey
hit that shot, watching the teamcome back from a ten point thirteen point
deficit over and over again, notgiving up in things of that nature.
You don't know what's the season's goingto end. We know how the regular
season end at forty one and fortyone, right, but you never know

(01:31:04):
if you get that shot, whatcan happen? And this is sho Look
at Miami in Milwaukee. Miami isthe eighth seed. They had to win
two games to get in, right, and here they are. I don't
know what the story is. Ihad to check, but they're on the
version of eliminating the top seed inthe East. Right, So you've gotta

(01:31:26):
you have to qualify. Every timepeople talking about losing games on purpose and
all this kind of stuff. Ikeep telling people, nobody's no players are
losing games for a draft pick thatmay or may not work out, right,
And if you never qualify for theplayoffs. You can never win for
win a championship. It never It'snever happened. And look at all the
teams that have always had these draftpicks. How well has it worked out?

(01:31:49):
How many championships do those teams thathave lost on a consistent basis and
gotten all those draft picks, Howmany picks? How many championships do they
have? Right? So you know, now, okay, see, eventually
might get one because they got likea trillion draft picks. Right, Eventually
it has to work out for them, right, I guess I don't know.

(01:32:09):
But if he as the Hawks continueto play well, I want to
see the Hawks have a chance towin us All you ask for the excitement
of what Trey Young is able todo, along with his teammates and everything.
But we know he is a superstar. It's like John said before he
left, Jordan staid before he left, Trey is a superstar. He's led
the league and assist the last twoseasons. He's already in past a lot

(01:32:30):
of Hall of Famers and like thirtyand ten games, like he's in the
same play He's in the same categoriesas Lebron, Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson,
Steve Nash, all these guys who'vebeen doing it for years and has
played five years in the NBA.He's averaging twenty five and ten as a
player. How many players are inthe NBA or averaging twenty five and ten
for their career? Not many,like none of them, you see what

(01:32:56):
I'm saying. And if you goback even further, it's like it isn't
not that many at all. Andso you know, Trey is pacing right
now. If he continues to gothe way he is, he could finish
in the top ten is scoring andassists all time, maybe top five right,
So again, I just don't seewhy the people hate Trey as much
as they do. It's kind ofcrazy at this point. People have been
begging and wishing for a superstar sinceNick and before Nick, who wasn't Before

(01:33:20):
Nick, we didn't really have one. The best player before Nick, I
guess was a shoot Bob Pennett.How many decades are we talking there?
Right? Well, Lou Hudson,Um Brown deal, you know, there
were various There were various ones thatpower the one. The reason I mentioned

(01:33:43):
Penne because he has a championship sowell, it wasn't year it was and
I'm martin error. I know we'restill lacking, but a championship. And
because this is something I get atpeople about getting football their world championships.
Prior to the Super Bowl plays.Okay, fan bases were constructed in Cleveland,

(01:34:09):
in pitt Well, Cleveland, akunOhio, the first place of the
NFL up there in the northeast portionof the country, where they had championships
and the championship games, the foursuper Bowls. The Super Bowl was nothing
more than the National Football League goingto get this renegade air film where they

(01:34:32):
said, okay, we want tosee who's passed between each two the plague.
They joined together Super Bowl and playedeach other. Then they eventually emerged
and those teams from the AFL becameNFL teams and they were in the American
Football Conference thump to the National FootballConference. But those teams built fan bases

(01:34:54):
from those championships, fan bases thattravel, you know, the Cargo travelers,
Cleveland travelers, the Troy Traveler,New England traveler, all these people
traveling. That's why that's how thosefan bases got to be constructed. But
back to the Hawks, the MVP, so that game in my opinion,

(01:35:21):
didn't even play last night, didJohn state Murray was the MVP of that
game, because if you watch gamesone through four, you actually still it.
What I was gonna talk about too, to go ahead, but I'm
sorry if Chris well, let's let'stalk about well you already saying, so

(01:35:45):
if just throwing the fire what you'reabout to say, we weren't getting any
calls. It was pretty much theNBA basically said, no matter what,
the Hawks are not getting past gamesthat ain't gonna happen. We thought something
I said, I played basketball,and there was some foolery that we've seen
on the floor that we were playingon the court court it just would have

(01:36:06):
been over because it have been fights, so the Lord. But last night,
all of a sudden, we startedgetting some calls in our favor,
you know what I'm saying. Andso you know, at the end of
the day, if if Murray hadto be the sycrificial layer for us,
it worked because on the technical side, he shouldn't have had to do that.

(01:36:27):
It should have been our owner oryou know, who has all the
money in the world, who cantake all the fines and just cut everybody
out after a game. You know, Snyder probably probably wouldn't do it necessarily,
he's kind of diplomatic and things ofthat nature. But we needed somebody
from the Harts organization to be ableto do it. So if it wasn't
gonna be from the upper it hadto be somebody on the court, and

(01:36:49):
Murray took it. I feel stronglythat that was purpose, you know what
I'm saying, because it was up. It was obscene some of the stuff
that was going on, right,it takes a lot for him to even
get that kind of angry. Thatwasn't like that wasn't basketball. You know,
there's a stuff that was happening itwasn't basketball. And so definitely,

(01:37:09):
I think that that really changed everything, you know, to the point where
even with Marcus Smart, they're stuffhe couldn't get away. With Al Horford,
he wouldn't get away with it.You know what I'm saying. We've
seen it, you know, soI think it's I think go ahead.
I think that was a big deal. And and you know, I wanted
you to go ahead and see becauseI've been saying it for the past state

(01:37:32):
I've could. I've put two videoson two different sites citing the same thing,
and and Chris nine to ninety game, I went on Calldi in the
State's program, brought the same situationof Desjan T. Murray, he's the

(01:37:57):
MVP three young, He's Dijon C. Murray created a canvas for the Hawks
to paint on. Okay, becauseif he had not done that, Trade
wouldn't have ever been able to dowhat he did. John Collins wouldn't have
been able to do with Daisy.Okay, everybody that contributed last night would

(01:38:19):
not have been able to get thattype of shot. Because everybody knows who
who's ever follows basketball in the seventiesand in the eighties especially, I don't
care who you are. I'm notjust talking about the Hawks. I don't
care who you are. You don'tget the benefit of the whistle in Boston.

(01:38:43):
You never had, No one everhad the rockets. You didn't get
the calls in Boston. And ineighty six when we stole a game in
Boston. You remember when we stolea game in Boston and brought it back
here because we were about to keepgone. Then yeah, we've welt then

(01:39:04):
okay, we brought it back hereand you know we took them the seven
games. I'm getting them. I'mgetting them thoughts, Chris, I'm getting
them thoughts because they're on the ropesbecause they were embarrassed last night. And
you alluded to the fact that theyput Blade Griffin in. They did that

(01:39:26):
because they wanted Blake Griffin to getthem run and practice for the next round.
That's that one, because they figuredthat game was over because I think
they had about a twelve point leadat that time. Okay, but to
the Hawks credit, to the Hawsecredit. They took this seriously and they

(01:39:48):
said, you're not going to justrun over us. And because of the
Murray's and I call it Murray's sacrifice, because of this same they're coming back
here games say, now, Ihave been polly yelling lobby big Nate mcmiller

(01:40:09):
was here, so they were doingthe same thing with Navid Miller. The
officials weren't giving us no type wasno type of justice, no matter who
it was. He were playing.Pops, who are Trey Young driving to
the basket, keep flying four rollsup into the stains because they knocking him
all over the course. They slashedevery time he goes up for a layup.

(01:40:30):
He's just like he's putting his handin the law and more play,
I mean, just chilling the man. Okay, no filefoughts and part of
that you remember. I don't whetherthe story got the story was told that
Lloyd Hears was the one along withSteve Nash when he was coaching. Oh

(01:40:53):
tray Unshiman able to get shouldn't beable to get away with that. He's
contorting his body unnaturally and drawing foulwhatever. But see the same here.
What what did Steve Nash benefit from? What did you benefit from when you
were point guard? You stopping dribbling? Didn't stopping something? Man run into
the back of you. You goto the last, but you don't want

(01:41:15):
anybody else to get it. Yeah. So the thing is is that the
scales evened up last night and theHawks organization, like I was abluted the
same before I went off that way, somebody needed to take one for the
team from the coaches down. Ifit wasn't Quinn Snyder, it couldn't.

(01:41:39):
Yeah, you're right, it couldhave been somebody. Somebody needed to throw
a chair on the floor. Uh, maybe they needed to bump around at
something needed to You can't just letthose things happen and not bring it to
attention that y'all are being egregious outhere. And then also so Caucus can
actually see this stuff too, sothey could do some reviews to be Okay,

(01:42:00):
this is blatant, this is stupid. This is the idiotic whether they're
even doing out there? How comethere? Somebody has to call attention to
where is the album still? Batfor Brian? All right? And you
remember you remember interest? I thinkit was either Toronto U Man they called
a foul on Dalon Johmpson on alast second three pointer where everybody didn't hand

(01:42:25):
but the man shooting the ball andDealon Johnson mid hands balld on. They
are little two minute report. Didthey go over? Well, that shouldn't
have been a foul on dealon jumpsbut saying yes, how had the league?
Yeah, so as the league?Okay, you took a game literally
out of the hand by allowing themfree throws so that they could shoot themselves

(01:42:51):
back in the league. We endup with a last second attempt that we
can't capitalize on. We got rippedoff. He have real thoughts and if
you are and and game four,Teller goes up to thank the ball off
the backboardte them grab the neck,pulls up on the net while he's jumping.

(01:43:19):
That helped him out jump for Caropellafor the layup and block the shot.
Everybody in everybody in Stay Farm arenagoing crazy. Everybody going crazy because
they see it up on the jumblesroun. They feel they see it everywhere.
They know about it. Officials didn'tsee it now, stuff like that,

(01:43:42):
stuff like that. See you thinkthese officials getting hurt in these church
leagues and in these little leagues aroundtower, you know, with bad calls
or perceived fires officiating. You don'twant to see these people coming out of
the said, y'all us have tostart I putting take the players around these
around these arenoms sands. If y'allkeep this up, so somebody comes,

(01:44:06):
I guarantee they keep this up.Somebody comes. Yeah, It's like I
said, I started saying, youknow, rest control way too much,
and they control games, and theycan't keep putting these reports out talking about
how this mistake was made. Ifyou're not going to replay the last three
minutes of a game, I don'tcare. I would rather not see the

(01:44:26):
obvious. You know that this isto get more infuriated about the situation.
I can't imagine what the players bethinking, because, like I said,
there's even with the Lakers. We'retalking about the Lakers a little bit.
There is games that they had takenaway from them because of calls. Right,
it's not it's the whole league,and it's like, how can you
just have all these bad people together? Um, I think we got uh.

(01:44:50):
I think this is Jordan back onthe line for ahead. Jordan.
I'm not this nigs man. I'mjust sorry, y'all. So I was
what they talk about. What's happening? What's up man? How are you
doing a long time? No?Here it cleoling man. Nothing going on.

(01:45:10):
I learned their man, I bringit up there real officiating the NBA
is really bad and learn anything.It's it's just it's so much ego Trippe
where it's like, Okay, Ican't let this guy show me up.
Well he didn't try to show youup. You jumped the girl and overreacted,
and then mister Carl later on andnow I'm looking at you like,

(01:45:34):
you know, you lay guy.So I'm talking on this man. This
this is definitely something they're going toclean up. I don't want to roll
back to off the old hell what'syours? And there? Given? Well,
i mean, like I said,I've been saying that for a while
in baseball, and baseball is reallybad, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like so at a certainpoint, isn't need to at least people,

(01:45:57):
I mean, what we what whatthe how much we gotta pay Elon
Musk to help us out a littlebit, you know, and these let's
start testing this out a little bit, right, So it's it's pretty bad.
You hate for it to happen inthe playoffs, right for that a
certain point that's the whole eighty twogames schedule comes to a head in the
playoffs because it is one and done, you know, at a certain point,

(01:46:19):
right, And so you hate tosee teams lose because of not playing
the game that has something not thatnothing to do with them, and then
find out it was a mistake callor whatever, it was a blonde call
or whatever so or anything else.Nos, Mama shout out to the hospital
for Look, man, it's easyto lay down in that game situation.

(01:46:45):
They chose not too much. Theyextended the season cool with the Brennie Loopers,
who wants to do that next year. Uh look, I hate to
be the bad guy, one ofthe big guys got to go in.
I'm not going salesman, but Ithink I'm the one talking about put them
on. So let me come onin the school and and the who we've

(01:47:08):
tried to turn them to hundred things. Thou come uns put them out of
here. That's all I got.I got you man, appreciate your calling
it once again. Man, we'lltalk soon your man. Yeah, the

(01:47:28):
and we got about ten minutes left. Y'all, um, you just hate
again when you're playing street ball orwhatever and you're calling your own fouls and
everything. Everybody's respect the call,right, you know, and sometimes you
do argue a little bit and belike, Okay, we'll give you that
one, but next time, youknow whatever, right on the NBA court,

(01:47:49):
you don't have that. It's whatthe rest says goes right. And
even with red play, it's crazysometimes they still get it wrong sometimes and
it's like, what are y'all seeingas opposed to everybody else that's in the
arena right now? And like yousaid, yeah, we might need to
put some blocks up around the courtbecause eventually somebody's gonna go crazy and just

(01:48:11):
come down there and just rain,you know, So something needs to needs
to be improved. Again. Idon't know if they have, you know,
I see online sometimes I see youknow, your G league guys,
you know, and girls and gals. I guess you could say, but
what kind of actual training in theoff season do they have? Do they
have literal you know, scholastic somethinganother, rules and everything, and visuals

(01:48:36):
to go off of and things ofthat nature, and actual practice because this
is the last this is the lastplace you want to be able to have
people controlling actual games. Like it'snot easy to get to the playoffs.
There are some players who have neverhad a playoff series right, or they've

(01:48:56):
only played one or two playoff gamesin their whole career. There's some players
who have never been to a conferencefinals. There are a lot of players
who've never been to an NBA finals. So it's a big deal to take
that away from someone just because youwanted to blow a foul call or walking
or whatever it might be. Sohopefully they cleaned it up. Hopefully it's
being noticed more and more. Wedon't need players to suspend it anymore.

(01:49:20):
Just to be able to have toprove a point. Hopefully that doesn't happen
anymore, but in this case itdid work. I think, like I
said, we got calls. Weweren't getting calls before. It just wasn't
happening like anything. It was overthe top at a certain point. But
last night we got a lot ofcalls. We didn't get all of them

(01:49:40):
still, but we got enough towhere it evened it out right and gave
us a chance to be competitive.So yep, that we were able to
take it on each We didn't playit a really good game last night.
Okay, we didn't play a reallygood game last night, but it was
good enough of an effort to showthat we have the capability. I'm playing

(01:50:02):
with a Boston Celtics at full strength, okay, And if you look at
the games we've played this year,we haven't been blown out about three or
fold times. The whole year Bostonwas going of them. Yeah, and
thing years is that them. Letsme know we coach. We are twelve.

(01:50:27):
Look, I told people that fromfrom a while ago on the basis
of um, the reason we wantI wanted to play the heat. I
didn't want to be sugar coating thatwe need to play and beat the heat.
We need to do that, andI wanted to play Boston. We
gonna have to prove that we canplay against these teams. And the reason

(01:50:47):
I said, and I said thison the interview with Bob Rapping last week,
the reason I felt we could beatthe Celtics is one we're healthy.
We weren't healthy last year at all. Nobody can say that we were.
Our whole was hurt. Right,We're healthy this year too. We got
a better bench than we had lastyear by far, can't be contested.

(01:51:08):
Number three, we do have Murrayhere who can get his own shot and
play defense, steal the ball,whatever, rebound and hit shots. So
that right there, it puts youin a better position than you ever could
have expected from last year. Sothat's where it was going to come down
to, is can you out playBoston at any point in time? But

(01:51:29):
if you can do that, yougot a shot. And we proved that
now two out of the last threetimes. Now we gotta do it two
more times to see what can happen. So and see officiating one thing versus
the seventies and the eighties. Man, it's too much money in ball for

(01:51:54):
people like you, officials to comeout in there and miss up game,
miss up people's careers, mess uppeople's jobs, mess up people's futures.
He calls you want to swallow thewhistle? And you know, and there
was a tup of people talking aboutwill they swallows a whistle for both teams?
Well, you know what that doesto a Boston Boston already played physical.

(01:52:19):
Okay, you get out there witha team that already played physical and
the referee swallows a whistle. Ohwhat they were getting away with? They
gonna push the envelope. Demon thirsty, They want to see what they can
get away with until you do blowthe whistle versus us anything? Man,

(01:52:43):
Look we passed five man, doyou be able to play where Smart went
back to talk about at the frontcourt steps into the back court trade Young
and standing behind him not setching themnowhere, I mean three feet away from
him doing like this. They calla foul. Gonna trade Young? Yeah,
come on, man, come on, come on, and everybody is

(01:53:05):
seeing this. Everybody's seeing this.So, like I said, the John
T. Murray, you did whatneeded to be done. Your boys had
your back. We got the game. Quiz Snider, Rustler, your son
Landry Field, one of y'all.One of y'all's gonna happen. Take the

(01:53:28):
men one of you all. Y'allgot the matter to pay a fine,
but we don't pay the fan gifyou y'all can't afford it. The fans
will pay the fancier. You know, we would do this cash. What
would you do for your team?That's the question that to happen, got
to happen. Well, John,I want to say thank you for joining

(01:53:49):
The Night man um in a pensionand roll. Appreciate that. I'm glad
George was able to call him fora second or two. Obviously, The
Night y'all was a great show talkingyou know, a lot of compkins football.
The NFL Draft is tomorrow, aswell as everything else in sports apparently.
Um. You know, it's gonnabe very interesting to kind of see

(01:54:09):
that. Um. But definitely we'regoing to be doing a post draft show
um in the very near future,so you know, definitely look out for
that. We did it last year. We had a lot of fun doing
it, so we're gonna do thatagain. Don't know the date yet,
but just be looking out for thatto see what we picked or what we
didn't pick, what happened, We'regonna go through that and definitely we'll have
some video footage and things of thatnature of different players and everything like that,

(01:54:31):
So stay tuned for that. Ofcourse, our next one of our
next shows will be in a wholetwo hours of Hawks Talk. We're able
to peak in a little bit tonight, but we're gonna have a whole two
hours of that's will definitely look intothat. No matter what happens tomorrow,
we're gonna we're gonna do that andgo over it. Um. We're excited
about what's going on in Atlanta sportsright now. All of us should be.

(01:54:51):
Um, that's the whole point ofaround the antil We're talking Atlanta sports
all the time, Y'allum. Sothat being said, don't forget please follow
and subscribe the i mt and WorldwideYouTube channel IMT and Worldwide Radio and also
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(01:55:13):
days ago. There it is rightthere, um, so make sure you
do that. Also, you canfollow on Twitter minus Intellect atl and my
co host Jordan Is George twenty threeatl obviously, Um, definitely, Oh,
go ahead, shout out your ifyou got a page, John,
I think you got you're on theinternet sometimes, right, Yeah, Amen,
I'm what I guess you could calljust freelance whatever, I whatever,

(01:55:35):
I get there that things just startedtyping that I might cut on the phone,
So just just get what you can. You you'll see me. Yeah,
all right, y'all. Until nexttime, we're gonna go out with
this one last little clip from lastnight and then we'll get going for the
night. Y'all, y'all, takecare. Peace is young, that's like

(01:56:03):
young. Let it go Ihhindhindhkhindok bookW
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