Though the Catholic Church is not new nor immune to scandals and corruption, the premise of an action-filled thriller, Vatican Daughter is sure to stir some controversy.Author Joni Marie Iraci’s novel is sure to shock and entertain readers with a story that is based on little-known facts that take us into a cauldron of secrecy, hypocrisy, and power. “When you write about what goes on behind the walls of the Vatican, you realize that, like any corporation, leadership will go to great extent to protect their organization from the public exposure of a scandal, even when the price involves deadly violence.”When the first American pope is about to ascend the throne of St. Peter, he confesses his affair with a female journalist who's about to give birth to his child. The confession given to a corrupt traditional cardinal, sparks a murderous spree as the baby is taken and kept sequestered behind the walls of the Vatican. The injured mother is taken to Venice where she is kept in a Benedictine convent secretly guarded by an unscrupulous Vatican spy.Twelve-years pass before the mother fully recovers. The child, shielded from the outside world, is wise beyond her years and at great risk. She challenges the hypocrisy around her. Under the tutelage of the kindly Bibliotheca of the Vatican Archives, she gains access to hidden Vatican documents and begins to question the validity of Vatican teachings.With vivid detail, Vatican Daughter takes the reader on a suspenseful journey through the cities of Rome and Venice as one woman attempts to expose Vatican treachery and retrieve her kidnapped daughter from behind the walls of the most powerful entity on earth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm doing well, thank you. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
you because you've got a book here that I think
is going to really create conversations between men and women,
because we're all going to get a reaction from this story,
I hope. So where did it come from in the
way of bringing it to life? Because I mean, as
an author myself, when stories hit me, I always like
to document it because I don't want to forget where
(00:24):
I was in.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That moment exactly. Well, actually I was in Saint Peter's
Square in Rome and you know, looking at the silica
and thinking, oh, I wonder what's going on in there
because there was a lot of scandals, you know, as
you know, So I just about ten years ago, and
(00:46):
you know, I always get the title first. So the
title hit me what if a girl was involved somehow?
So the title hit like the news, you know, when
the news hits as you know when you're an author.
And I wrote down the title and then I wrote
a few notes and then I put it aside for
about ten years because I went back to school and
(01:09):
you know, life goes on. And then I went back
to it in about twenty nineteen and started writing in
ernest well. I went back to Italy and I walked,
you know, all through Italy. I know Venice pretty well,
but I didn't know Rome as well. So I walked
through Rome about three weeks that eighty eight miles. I
tracked myself and I, you know, really got the lay
(01:31):
of the land. And then I came back during the
pandemic and I wrote for about eight hours a day.
Treated it like a job, and I did research, took
me down all kinds of rabbit holes, and took about
a year and then that's it. That's how it happened.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I love the idea that you say that you treated
it like a job, because there's many times and even
as a podcaster, I'll sit here and I'll go, this
is not a hobby, this is your job. Put your
focus in the game and bring it forward, right.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's hard to do. There was an article, an essay actually,
I think her name was Mattson, a writer, and she
wrote something about how if a man's mother gets sick
and he's a writer, he'll send someone, but if a
woman writer's mother gets sick, she'll go to take care
(02:20):
so we don't. We always seem to put other people's
needs ahead of ours. I'm finding it really hard to
well right now, I'm entrenched in marketing, so it's hard
to write. But I'm you know, it's hard to carve
out the time when you have you know, life gets
chaotic and there's a lot of distractions. That actually wrote
(02:41):
a short story about distraction, wrote on a plane no less.
You know, when you get the bug, you do it.
You just do it. That's that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I was going to ask you about that discipline because
I mean, every morning, seven am, if I'm not behind
that piece of paper that with that writing instrument in
my hand, then I know I'm not doing what I
was called to do. So I mean, that's my discipline
every day. And I've been doing this for thirty one years.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's great, that's great. Yeah, Well, I was in school,
which was grueling. I you know, I'm a retired registered nurse,
which was a whole different, a whole different profession. So
you know, when I raised kids and then I said
I got to get on this. You know, I actually
went to Sarah Lawrence, first undergrad and a professor who
(03:26):
since passed he was the World of Thorny on Mark Twain.
He and I became really good friends, and he actually
asked to read everything I wrote. It Sara Lewens is
a writing college. You know, don't have to take tests.
I love that about it. But I was a returning adult.
So he asked to read everything that I had to
(03:47):
write for classes, which was, you know, great. And then
he read everything and he said, you have a talent.
You better get on it. I did. I did. And
it's interesting because at Columbia, you know, I mean, it's
very expensive and grueling, and very few of us actually produced,
(04:12):
you know, Like, I don't know. I don't know how
you don't write when you have that passion, if you
have the passion to go through the grueling process of
an MFA program, I don't know how you put it
aside and do other things. Well. I guess when you're young,
that's what you do. But I feel guilty. You know,
(04:34):
it follows you if you're not doing if you're not
doing what you're supposed to do, like you're always thinking
about it. I better get on I have, you know,
I have a deadline. Now. I'm writing a short story
for an anthology so you know, I'm researching and then
I write, I researched, and then I write, and that's
how it goes. But you're right, I mean it's hard
(04:56):
to not let life get in the way you have
to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you said something that really caught my attention. You
said that you that you know, you brought up COVID
and you said, registered nurse, you experienced the COVID lockdown
in a different way than most people.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, I experienced COVID before anybody had it because when
I was in Italy, it was October of twenty nineteen,
and it really didn't break. The news of it didn't
break until January of twenty twenty. So I was really sick. Well,
I was in Italy, and you know, I didn't know
what it was. I was. I coughed for about six
(05:34):
weeks and then ah, you know, that's that's what it was.
But yeah, in more ways than long. Because my husband's physician,
and you know, it was interesting when we were living
in New York at the time and it was a
ghost town, you know, like Lexington Avenue was completely empty
(05:55):
because he had to go on occasion and to see patients,
and you know, it was just really eerie in eerie time.
But we lived in a very small neighborhood, so we
figured we had each other's germs, so we would, you know,
just go to each other's houses. Probably shouldn't have done that,
because apparently that town was ground zero for COVID. It's
(06:19):
where it first materialized in the States. It was interesting times.
You know, if you didn't have a mask on, people
would follow you on the street and yell at you
oh yeah, oh yeah ye. I don't know how people
would at end ninety five masks because you can't breathe
at all. Anyway, I don't know, I don't know. I
(06:44):
think probably we should have just miss get in trouble
for this, but probably should have just lived and not
been so diligent.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're about please do not move. There's more with Jonnie
Marie Rossi coming up next, the name of the book
Vatican Daughter. We're back with Jonny Marie I Roussi. The
story idea came to you ten years ago. Here's the thing.
We just got our first American I know, what was
your reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was driving and I heard it on the news,
and I was like by myself in the car and
I was, Oh my god, it's so interesting. I did
a podcast interview on April and the very lovely host
said to me, listen, this whole story is plausible. I
totally believe it all except in American pop that'll never happen.
(07:40):
So I emailed him, I haven't heard that, but I
know that was before I just well, if you read
the first chapter you can see how the scenario of
it played out in my head.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, the other Cardinals would be all griping in
the European Cardinals, of course, that would be griping because America,
you know, we're always like the you know, we don't
behave as according to the way they expect you to,
you know, not as.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Devout you put it that way. But yeah, so that
was a shock rather timely. So I am it means something,
you know. I hope he's better behave Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
It's gonna say, I mean, coming, we're talking about a
pope in your book that's confessing to a love affair here.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Correct, Well, you know it's gonna it's happened. It's not
that far wow anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, but I mean, do you expect it to stir
up some controversy. I mean, because like I said, this
is the kind of book that is going to you know,
men and women are going to read it and go, well,
what if she's right? What what if this is something?
And you read it like like a binge watch on TV,
because it's that you just sit there and you just say,
all right, all right, I'm going to get back into
this because I'm gonna I'm gonna get into what's going on.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, they have to find it first, you know. So
I've done a lot of marketing. I'm hoping it helps
and it gets into the right hands. I'm not in
love with social media, and I'm not I'm not a child,
I'm not young, so I you know, I listen to
webinars on social media and it makes my hair hurt.
(09:17):
To be honest, I don't know which it's luck I
think and they like at the end of the day
because I was told I'm too old for TikTok good
for me, So I don't know, you know, I just
I'm hoping it reaches some people. Some people like it,
some people will I mean, that's just the way it is.
(09:39):
It's like you know, art. Some people like certain things.
Some people don't and they'll be I know, a book
club of a bunch of you know, I want to
call them old ladies, a bunch of they're comical because
they drink more than they read. But they they're a hoot.
But and they liked my first book, and I went
(10:00):
out twice to talk with them, and I happened to
know personally no one of them. So she invited me,
but this one she won't because she said they won't
read it. I think that's really kind of naive. It
is fiction, let's face it, but it's kind of and
they're missing out because I mean, it's plausible and considering
(10:23):
all the scandals, if all of that stuff never happened,
then I could I could understand it. But there was
a lot of shenanig it's going on, and I personally
experienced it, so, you know, not like abuse, but you know,
holier than now clergy who were pontificating at me and
(10:44):
the whole time had their hands in the cookie jar,
and you know, one went to jail. So yeah, it
was it's enlightening, you know. So you grow up, you know,
grow up going to school and you know you're not
allowed to question anything because you're a kid and then ye,
(11:05):
you know, it's you're right at the end of the day.
So nobody's perfect, but don't pretend to be, is my
you know, that's the way they are, not all of them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Wow, where can people go to find out more about you?
And you just said you have a book before this,
so now I want people to go and find that
book as well.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's totally different that book. That's about a young girl
who escapes and abusive situation. It's set in New York.
I actually had jury duty. I had written thirty five pages.
That was my thesis for Columbia. I had written thirty
five pages based on law and order, which is not true.
And the judge at the end of this three month
grueling case helped me. I mean how you interviewed him
(11:49):
and he was great because he said, pull up a pull.
I got his name, but he his wife was a writer,
so he was all through his bad That was great
and I you know, I got to learn the lay
of the land in the court and things like that.
So it's how they stand and how they talk and
how they talk to the judge, and you know, it
(12:10):
was really good. My fellow geors hated me because they
didn't want to be there. I loved it. But I
have actually written the next book, the follow up book
to this book, and that I'll be submitting to the
publisher and in the September, so they want to see
(12:34):
how this one does. And then that's a little bit
more scandalous, just to tell you. So, yeah, that that
I had no intention of writing it. I woke up
with the first line in my head, you know how
that happened sometimes, and then it just came. It just flowed.
(12:57):
So that's that's that's interesting. Yeah, and there might be
a third I was doing research for the third book.
Came a friend of mine actually sparked the idea for
the third book. In this I don't want to call
it a series or sequels. I want to say they're
(13:19):
the same characters, but the story is different, you know,
and they can stand alone, I'm pretty sure. But so
he gave me this idea, and I was researching with
this fabulous book, doing research. The immortality key fascinating and
(13:39):
in the middle of the book it says the Secret
of Secrets. So I went into a panic because that
Stan Brown's next book coming out. That's the title. So
I'm hoping we're not on the same wave way. There's
no way I could compete with him, so I ended up.
I'm waiting to see but his seems to be set
(13:59):
in Czechoslovakia, and this is one hundred percent Greek and
Middle Eastern, so I don't know, maybe it's different.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Wow, the door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh, thank you so much. I'm so happy to finally connect.
It like a little bit of a confusion, but it
was wonderful. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, okay, you too, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Where are you located, Charlotte? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Nice, perfect.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You don't have the twang, the country twang.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I'm originally from Billings, Montana, so a.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Twin ohul, Wow, you take care. Thank you so much.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm doing well, thank you. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
you because you've got a book here that I think
is going to really create conversations between men and women,
because we're all going to get a reaction from this story,
I hope. So where did it come from in the
way of bringing it to life? Because I mean, as
an author myself, when stories hit me, I always like
to document it because I don't want to forget where
(00:24):
I was in.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That moment exactly. Well, actually I was in Saint Peter's
Square in Rome and you know, looking at the silica
and thinking, oh, I wonder what's going on in there
because there was a lot of scandals, you know, as
you know, So I just about ten years ago, and
(00:46):
you know, I always get the title first. So the
title hit me what if a girl was involved somehow?
So the title hit like the news, you know, when
the news hits as you know when you're an author.
And I wrote down the title and then I wrote
a few notes and then I put it aside for
about ten years because I went back to school and
(01:09):
you know, life goes on. And then I went back
to it in about twenty nineteen and started writing in
ernest well. I went back to Italy and I walked,
you know, all through Italy. I know Venice pretty well,
but I didn't know Rome as well. So I walked
through Rome about three weeks that eighty eight miles. I
tracked myself and I, you know, really got the lay
(01:31):
of the land. And then I came back during the
pandemic and I wrote for about eight hours a day.
Treated it like a job, and I did research, took
me down all kinds of rabbit holes, and took about
a year and then that's it. That's how it happened.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I love the idea that you say that you treated
it like a job, because there's many times and even
as a podcaster, I'll sit here and I'll go, this
is not a hobby, this is your job. Put your
focus in the game and bring it forward, right.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's hard to do. There was an article, an essay actually,
I think her name was Mattson, a writer, and she
wrote something about how if a man's mother gets sick
and he's a writer, he'll send someone, but if a
woman writer's mother gets sick, she'll go to take care
(02:20):
so we don't. We always seem to put other people's
needs ahead of ours. I'm finding it really hard to
well right now, I'm entrenched in marketing, so it's hard
to write. But I'm you know, it's hard to carve
out the time when you have you know, life gets
chaotic and there's a lot of distractions. That actually wrote
(02:41):
a short story about distraction, wrote on a plane no less.
You know, when you get the bug, you do it.
You just do it. That's that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I was going to ask you about that discipline because
I mean, every morning, seven am, if I'm not behind
that piece of paper that with that writing instrument in
my hand, then I know I'm not doing what I
was called to do. So I mean, that's my discipline
every day. And I've been doing this for thirty one years.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's great, that's great. Yeah, Well, I was in school,
which was grueling. I you know, I'm a retired registered nurse,
which was a whole different, a whole different profession. So
you know, when I raised kids and then I said
I got to get on this. You know, I actually
went to Sarah Lawrence, first undergrad and a professor who
(03:26):
since passed he was the World of Thorny on Mark Twain.
He and I became really good friends, and he actually
asked to read everything I wrote. It Sara Lewens is
a writing college. You know, don't have to take tests.
I love that about it. But I was a returning adult.
So he asked to read everything that I had to
(03:47):
write for classes, which was, you know, great. And then
he read everything and he said, you have a talent.
You better get on it. I did. I did. And
it's interesting because at Columbia, you know, I mean, it's
very expensive and grueling, and very few of us actually produced,
(04:12):
you know, Like, I don't know. I don't know how
you don't write when you have that passion, if you
have the passion to go through the grueling process of
an MFA program, I don't know how you put it
aside and do other things. Well. I guess when you're young,
that's what you do. But I feel guilty. You know,
(04:34):
it follows you if you're not doing if you're not
doing what you're supposed to do, like you're always thinking
about it. I better get on I have, you know,
I have a deadline. Now. I'm writing a short story
for an anthology so you know, I'm researching and then
I write, I researched, and then I write, and that's
how it goes. But you're right, I mean it's hard
(04:56):
to not let life get in the way you have
to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you said something that really caught my attention. You
said that you that you know, you brought up COVID
and you said, registered nurse, you experienced the COVID lockdown
in a different way than most people.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, I experienced COVID before anybody had it because when
I was in Italy, it was October of twenty nineteen,
and it really didn't break. The news of it didn't
break until January of twenty twenty. So I was really sick. Well,
I was in Italy, and you know, I didn't know
what it was. I was. I coughed for about six
(05:34):
weeks and then ah, you know, that's that's what it was.
But yeah, in more ways than long. Because my husband's physician,
and you know, it was interesting when we were living
in New York at the time and it was a
ghost town, you know, like Lexington Avenue was completely empty
(05:55):
because he had to go on occasion and to see patients,
and you know, it was just really eerie in eerie time.
But we lived in a very small neighborhood, so we
figured we had each other's germs, so we would, you know,
just go to each other's houses. Probably shouldn't have done that,
because apparently that town was ground zero for COVID. It's
(06:19):
where it first materialized in the States. It was interesting times.
You know, if you didn't have a mask on, people
would follow you on the street and yell at you
oh yeah, oh yeah ye. I don't know how people
would at end ninety five masks because you can't breathe
at all. Anyway, I don't know, I don't know. I
(06:44):
think probably we should have just miss get in trouble
for this, but probably should have just lived and not
been so diligent.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're about please do not move. There's more with Jonnie
Marie Rossi coming up next, the name of the book
Vatican Daughter. We're back with Jonny Marie I Roussi. The
story idea came to you ten years ago. Here's the thing.
We just got our first American I know, what was
your reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was driving and I heard it on the news,
and I was like by myself in the car and
I was, Oh my god, it's so interesting. I did
a podcast interview on April and the very lovely host
said to me, listen, this whole story is plausible. I
totally believe it all except in American pop that'll never happen.
(07:40):
So I emailed him, I haven't heard that, but I
know that was before I just well, if you read
the first chapter you can see how the scenario of
it played out in my head.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, the other Cardinals would be all griping in
the European Cardinals, of course, that would be griping because America,
you know, we're always like the you know, we don't
behave as according to the way they expect you to,
you know, not as.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Devout you put it that way. But yeah, so that
was a shock rather timely. So I am it means something,
you know. I hope he's better behave Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
It's gonna say, I mean, coming, we're talking about a
pope in your book that's confessing to a love affair here.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Correct, Well, you know it's gonna it's happened. It's not
that far wow anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, but I mean, do you expect it to stir
up some controversy. I mean, because like I said, this
is the kind of book that is going to you know,
men and women are going to read it and go, well,
what if she's right? What what if this is something?
And you read it like like a binge watch on TV,
because it's that you just sit there and you just say,
all right, all right, I'm going to get back into
this because I'm gonna I'm gonna get into what's going on.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, they have to find it first, you know. So
I've done a lot of marketing. I'm hoping it helps
and it gets into the right hands. I'm not in
love with social media, and I'm not I'm not a child,
I'm not young, so I you know, I listen to
webinars on social media and it makes my hair hurt.
(09:17):
To be honest, I don't know which it's luck I
think and they like at the end of the day
because I was told I'm too old for TikTok good
for me, So I don't know, you know, I just
I'm hoping it reaches some people. Some people like it,
some people will I mean, that's just the way it is.
(09:39):
It's like you know, art. Some people like certain things.
Some people don't and they'll be I know, a book
club of a bunch of you know, I want to
call them old ladies, a bunch of they're comical because
they drink more than they read. But they they're a hoot.
But and they liked my first book, and I went
(10:00):
out twice to talk with them, and I happened to
know personally no one of them. So she invited me,
but this one she won't because she said they won't
read it. I think that's really kind of naive. It
is fiction, let's face it, but it's kind of and
they're missing out because I mean, it's plausible and considering
(10:23):
all the scandals, if all of that stuff never happened,
then I could I could understand it. But there was
a lot of shenanig it's going on, and I personally
experienced it, so, you know, not like abuse, but you know,
holier than now clergy who were pontificating at me and
(10:44):
the whole time had their hands in the cookie jar,
and you know, one went to jail. So yeah, it
was it's enlightening, you know. So you grow up, you know,
grow up going to school and you know you're not
allowed to question anything because you're a kid and then ye,
(11:05):
you know, it's you're right at the end of the day.
So nobody's perfect, but don't pretend to be, is my
you know, that's the way they are, not all of them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Wow, where can people go to find out more about you?
And you just said you have a book before this,
so now I want people to go and find that
book as well.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's totally different that book. That's about a young girl
who escapes and abusive situation. It's set in New York.
I actually had jury duty. I had written thirty five pages.
That was my thesis for Columbia. I had written thirty
five pages based on law and order, which is not true.
And the judge at the end of this three month
grueling case helped me. I mean how you interviewed him
(11:49):
and he was great because he said, pull up a pull.
I got his name, but he his wife was a writer,
so he was all through his bad That was great
and I you know, I got to learn the lay
of the land in the court and things like that.
So it's how they stand and how they talk and
how they talk to the judge, and you know, it
(12:10):
was really good. My fellow geors hated me because they
didn't want to be there. I loved it. But I
have actually written the next book, the follow up book
to this book, and that I'll be submitting to the
publisher and in the September, so they want to see
(12:34):
how this one does. And then that's a little bit
more scandalous, just to tell you. So, yeah, that that
I had no intention of writing it. I woke up
with the first line in my head, you know how
that happened sometimes, and then it just came. It just flowed.
(12:57):
So that's that's that's interesting. Yeah, and there might be
a third I was doing research for the third book.
Came a friend of mine actually sparked the idea for
the third book. In this I don't want to call
it a series or sequels. I want to say they're
(13:19):
the same characters, but the story is different, you know,
and they can stand alone, I'm pretty sure. But so
he gave me this idea, and I was researching with
this fabulous book, doing research. The immortality key fascinating and
(13:39):
in the middle of the book it says the Secret
of Secrets. So I went into a panic because that
Stan Brown's next book coming out. That's the title. So
I'm hoping we're not on the same wave way. There's
no way I could compete with him, so I ended up.
I'm waiting to see but his seems to be set
(13:59):
in Czechoslovakia, and this is one hundred percent Greek and
Middle Eastern, so I don't know, maybe it's different.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Wow, the door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh, thank you so much. I'm so happy to finally connect.
It like a little bit of a confusion, but it
was wonderful. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, okay, you too, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Where are you located, Charlotte? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Nice, perfect.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You don't have the twang, the country twang.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I'm originally from Billings, Montana, so a.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Twin ohul, Wow, you take care. Thank you so much.
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