January 2, 2026 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Creativity is an addiction unplugged because we will always say
yes to creativity totally end cut because we all make mistakes.
So let's turn it into a tool. This is arrow unplugged. Hey,
it's arrow. This is vocal d frag. Defragging is taking
the opportunity to ask yourself, not others questions. Let me
share that with you one more time, asking yourself, not
(00:22):
others questions and the answers that come into your heart.
Question those answers, because then you start developing a relationship,
that opportunity to not only speak from your soul, but
to listen to it, to question it, to grow with it.
That's what vocal dfragging is. And I also keep a
d frag journal where I can see the written word,
(00:44):
I can go back at any time and see the
origin of a story. I can listen to it anytime.
And I like the vocal d frag because so many
times when you put words on a sheet of paper,
lost is the inflection, the pitch, the volume, the tone.
You're sitting there studying your new interpretation. This is vocal
(01:06):
d frag. Very interesting subject today came into my heart
a few minutes ago because when I come out in
these walks through this beautiful forest in South Charlotte, North Carolina.
Sixty eight degrees sunshine. It's the end of August. It
shouldn't be sixty eight degrees, should it? Oh? But it is,
and it's very beautiful. But the thought that came to
me was, you never speak of the struggles of the
(01:28):
origin being a person of creativity. You always share the
end result or the continuation of the results, but you
don't speak of the struggles of the very beginning. And
if you think I am alone, you are not correct
in that we are all in moments of creative outbursts.
(01:49):
Not anger, not depression. It's when creativity hits you and
you can't stop yourself from bringing it forward. I often
wonder how long has it been boiling underneath your skin,
that creative thought? You know, it's like, oh my god,
here it is. But it didn't just happen. So many
people think that there's such a thing as an overnight success,
(02:09):
but it's absolutely false. I've talked with the artists, the writers,
the actors, the directors, the producers. We all are on
the same page. There is no such thing as an
overnight success. So why don't we talk about the swings
and the misses, the strikeouts, the stumbles, the pitfalls. And
(02:31):
I think it's because everybody wants to turn everything into
something that's larger than life. And I mean even Gene
Simmons says that if you don't think it's larger than life,
how do you expect to sell it to somebody who
will also think it's larger than life. So, in the
process of the creative outburst, how do you digest those
moments when you have this brilliant idea and then you
(02:55):
act upon it, But does it turn out the way
that you wanted it to. The reason why I bring
this up is because I'm starting a new podcast, a
Creative Outburst, and that's what I love about podcasting is
that you can physically go in and try new things
and if people don't like it, okay, people don't like it,
but it was fun putting it together. The podcast is
(03:16):
called thank You for Being a part of the Conversation.
When it first came to me, I wanted to be
the Poet in the Forest, which was a children's book
series that I did back in the nineteen nineties, and
I wanted to have that voice, that kind of a
tone in my vocals where it was like I'm telling
a story and I'm sharing a story with those vocals
(03:37):
that storytellers like mister Rogers would do. I did the
first episode and it really it was okay. I laughed,
I thought it was neat. But the thing is, though,
is that who goes and stands next to a tree
and interviews the tree? The tree doesn't speak, but the
(03:59):
guy host he's responding to invisible answers. And so after
listening to the episode the Creative Outburst, I started questioning it.
I started doubting it. The second episode that I did,
I totally blew it up. I had nothing to do
with it. And if you think I'm alone, you're crazy
(04:21):
because we all have creative outbursts. So the toughest thing
about being a creative person is is yourself. It's you.
The judger and I have been heavy in the heart
ever since that first episode went up about you got
to get rid of this man. This sucks, You're doing
it all wrong. And so in my d frag journal,
(04:41):
I began to ask the question and then question the answers.
The goal of this podcast, not this one particular, but
the goal of the new podcast thanks for being a
part of the conversation. Is to share the story of
this beautiful forest in South Charlotte, North Carolina. Now sure
on this right here, the vocal deep rag. We take
a walk and we talk about everyday life, what it's
(05:03):
like to be a creative, what it's like to be
in the business world that changes, the challenges, the ups
and downs of swings. But no, I didn't want to
do that. I wanted to be able to walk through
the forest up to a tree that I planted in elm.
It was only four inches tall when it met the
ground in nineteen ninety seven, to share the story of
(05:25):
that elm that is now twenty seven to thirty feet tall.
But in the first episode I made it sound like
it was a child. It just didn't do me right.
But as Cindy once told me, Cindy was one of
the first people to step forward to bring my art
on a canvas to galleries around the country. She says,
you know, mister, you better learn one thing right now.
(05:49):
Just because you think what you put on a canvas sucks,
the rest of us. Don't always think that your interpretation
doesn't matter. All you did was you answered the call.
You put it on canvas. So that's the reason why
the first episode went up. The second episode boom. I
blew that thing up because I just didn't like that
(06:10):
vocal tone, you know, and I was saying things that
I wouldn't say naturally. So in your own personal creative outbursts,
what do you do with the judger? How do you
handle that inner person that says, you know what? I
had a good time doing this. I wasted a lot
of money at home Depot and Low's to build this
(06:31):
in my garage, But you know what, what am I
going to do with it? And that's how I started
feeling about the art on canvas. I started allowing other
people's opinion of the artwork and the shows to basically
silence that creative outburst. I had fun putting stuff on
a canvas. I had a great time, but it doesn't
(06:52):
happen anymore because I allowed the judgment of others to
silence my art. And today with a podcast, I'm allowing
myself to silence the art. So how did I handle
this situation? Did I instantly quit? Thanks for being a
part of the conversation. No, I don't think I'm done
with it yet, because you know how it is. As
a creative person, you put yourself in a moment of okay,
(07:13):
ta da here it is, but you know you've got
to make more. Because it's a podcast, you have to
make more. It's the same thing is that if you're
building something in your kitchen, you can't just put up
one cabinet. We got to change the entire kitchen. You
gotta do something because you've already made the first step.
But if it's a little bit off balance and you're
looking at it and it makes you dizzy, what are
(07:35):
you gonna do. You're gonna go in there and you're
gonna correct the situation. It's the same thing when I
make my famous soups. Because I love to make soup,
I always change things up, and because if I go
back and I sample my first ever soup that I
made during the COVID lockdown, it's gonna suck. But see,
I've learned how to make better soup by studying the
(07:58):
creative outburst, not anger. It's when creativity it pops like
a pimple and you happen to show up. But you
can't allow it to close up, because that's when you're
going to start doing things like putting yourself in moments
of doubt, you're gonna be going, ah, it's nothing to
those future things that need to come out. And really,
(08:20):
in all honesty, when it comes to creativity, you know
what it is. Creativity is that one thing that builds
the step for you to grow forward and outward, to
be in a place of you know what. This may
be not for this moment of now, but how I
learned how to do this is going to help me
on future projects. So having a creative outburst is a
(08:43):
beautiful place to be grow with it, allow it to spin.
But the thing you've got to do, though, is you've
got to understand that you may not like the first attempt,
you may not like the second or the third. Got
I was out in that force again this morning, and
I went for a different kind of approach, just me
(09:04):
standing next to a tree on a ninety five foot drop,
talking about how I couldn't stand the erosion that was
taking place in this forest and what did I do
as a person, as a writer to help the erosion
stop in a force that's been a part of my
life for thirty two years. But I did it in
(09:27):
a nice, warm tone. I didn't have to think I
was talking to a child, and why I went that
way was only because of the poets in the Forest,
that series that I did back in the nineteen nineties.
Your creative outbursts, ask questions. If you don't like what
you're putting out there, ask questions and then question the answers.
(09:49):
You were born to be creative. Stop shutting yourself off.
Stop letting other people control who you are. What I
know in my heart got a lot of art in you.
Let your art fly, Hye Maril, And that's vocal defray.
Creativity is an addiction unplugged because we will always say
yes to creativity totally end cut because we all make mistakes.
So let's turn it into a tool. This is arrow unplugged. Hey,
it's arrow. This is vocal d frag. Defragging is taking
the opportunity to ask yourself, not others questions. Let me
share that with you one more time, asking yourself, not
(00:22):
others questions and the answers that come into your heart.
Question those answers, because then you start developing a relationship,
that opportunity to not only speak from your soul, but
to listen to it, to question it, to grow with it.
That's what vocal dfragging is. And I also keep a
d frag journal where I can see the written word,
(00:44):
I can go back at any time and see the
origin of a story. I can listen to it anytime.
And I like the vocal d frag because so many
times when you put words on a sheet of paper,
lost is the inflection, the pitch, the volume, the tone.
You're sitting there studying your new interpretation. This is vocal
(01:06):
d frag. Very interesting subject today came into my heart
a few minutes ago because when I come out in
these walks through this beautiful forest in South Charlotte, North Carolina.
Sixty eight degrees sunshine. It's the end of August. It
shouldn't be sixty eight degrees, should it? Oh? But it is,
and it's very beautiful. But the thought that came to
me was, you never speak of the struggles of the
(01:28):
origin being a person of creativity. You always share the
end result or the continuation of the results, but you
don't speak of the struggles of the very beginning. And
if you think I am alone, you are not correct
in that we are all in moments of creative outbursts.
(01:49):
Not anger, not depression. It's when creativity hits you and
you can't stop yourself from bringing it forward. I often
wonder how long has it been boiling underneath your skin,
that creative thought? You know, it's like, oh my god,
here it is. But it didn't just happen. So many
people think that there's such a thing as an overnight success,
(02:09):
but it's absolutely false. I've talked with the artists, the writers,
the actors, the directors, the producers. We all are on
the same page. There is no such thing as an
overnight success. So why don't we talk about the swings
and the misses, the strikeouts, the stumbles, the pitfalls. And
(02:31):
I think it's because everybody wants to turn everything into
something that's larger than life. And I mean even Gene
Simmons says that if you don't think it's larger than life,
how do you expect to sell it to somebody who
will also think it's larger than life. So, in the
process of the creative outburst, how do you digest those
moments when you have this brilliant idea and then you
(02:55):
act upon it, But does it turn out the way
that you wanted it to. The reason why I bring
this up is because I'm starting a new podcast, a
Creative Outburst, and that's what I love about podcasting is
that you can physically go in and try new things
and if people don't like it, okay, people don't like it,
but it was fun putting it together. The podcast is
(03:16):
called thank You for Being a part of the Conversation.
When it first came to me, I wanted to be
the Poet in the Forest, which was a children's book
series that I did back in the nineteen nineties, and
I wanted to have that voice, that kind of a
tone in my vocals where it was like I'm telling
a story and I'm sharing a story with those vocals
(03:37):
that storytellers like mister Rogers would do. I did the
first episode and it really it was okay. I laughed,
I thought it was neat. But the thing is, though,
is that who goes and stands next to a tree
and interviews the tree? The tree doesn't speak, but the
(03:59):
guy host he's responding to invisible answers. And so after
listening to the episode the Creative Outburst, I started questioning it.
I started doubting it. The second episode that I did,
I totally blew it up. I had nothing to do
with it. And if you think I'm alone, you're crazy
(04:21):
because we all have creative outbursts. So the toughest thing
about being a creative person is is yourself. It's you.
The judger and I have been heavy in the heart
ever since that first episode went up about you got
to get rid of this man. This sucks, You're doing
it all wrong. And so in my d frag journal,
(04:41):
I began to ask the question and then question the answers.
The goal of this podcast, not this one particular, but
the goal of the new podcast thanks for being a
part of the conversation. Is to share the story of
this beautiful forest in South Charlotte, North Carolina. Now sure
on this right here, the vocal deep rag. We take
a walk and we talk about everyday life, what it's
(05:03):
like to be a creative, what it's like to be
in the business world that changes, the challenges, the ups
and downs of swings. But no, I didn't want to
do that. I wanted to be able to walk through
the forest up to a tree that I planted in elm.
It was only four inches tall when it met the
ground in nineteen ninety seven, to share the story of
(05:25):
that elm that is now twenty seven to thirty feet tall.
But in the first episode I made it sound like
it was a child. It just didn't do me right.
But as Cindy once told me, Cindy was one of
the first people to step forward to bring my art
on a canvas to galleries around the country. She says,
you know, mister, you better learn one thing right now.
(05:49):
Just because you think what you put on a canvas sucks,
the rest of us. Don't always think that your interpretation
doesn't matter. All you did was you answered the call.
You put it on canvas. So that's the reason why
the first episode went up. The second episode boom. I
blew that thing up because I just didn't like that
(06:10):
vocal tone, you know, and I was saying things that
I wouldn't say naturally. So in your own personal creative outbursts,
what do you do with the judger? How do you
handle that inner person that says, you know what? I
had a good time doing this. I wasted a lot
of money at home Depot and Low's to build this
(06:31):
in my garage, But you know what, what am I
going to do with it? And that's how I started
feeling about the art on canvas. I started allowing other
people's opinion of the artwork and the shows to basically
silence that creative outburst. I had fun putting stuff on
a canvas. I had a great time, but it doesn't
(06:52):
happen anymore because I allowed the judgment of others to
silence my art. And today with a podcast, I'm allowing
myself to silence the art. So how did I handle
this situation? Did I instantly quit? Thanks for being a
part of the conversation. No, I don't think I'm done
with it yet, because you know how it is. As
a creative person, you put yourself in a moment of okay,
(07:13):
ta da here it is, but you know you've got
to make more. Because it's a podcast, you have to
make more. It's the same thing is that if you're
building something in your kitchen, you can't just put up
one cabinet. We got to change the entire kitchen. You
gotta do something because you've already made the first step.
But if it's a little bit off balance and you're
looking at it and it makes you dizzy, what are
(07:35):
you gonna do. You're gonna go in there and you're
gonna correct the situation. It's the same thing when I
make my famous soups. Because I love to make soup,
I always change things up, and because if I go
back and I sample my first ever soup that I
made during the COVID lockdown, it's gonna suck. But see,
I've learned how to make better soup by studying the
(07:58):
creative outburst, not anger. It's when creativity it pops like
a pimple and you happen to show up. But you
can't allow it to close up, because that's when you're
going to start doing things like putting yourself in moments
of doubt, you're gonna be going, ah, it's nothing to
those future things that need to come out. And really,
(08:20):
in all honesty, when it comes to creativity, you know
what it is. Creativity is that one thing that builds
the step for you to grow forward and outward, to
be in a place of you know what. This may
be not for this moment of now, but how I
learned how to do this is going to help me
on future projects. So having a creative outburst is a
(08:43):
beautiful place to be grow with it, allow it to spin.
But the thing you've got to do, though, is you've
got to understand that you may not like the first attempt,
you may not like the second or the third. Got
I was out in that force again this morning, and
I went for a different kind of approach, just me
(09:04):
standing next to a tree on a ninety five foot drop,
talking about how I couldn't stand the erosion that was
taking place in this forest and what did I do
as a person, as a writer to help the erosion
stop in a force that's been a part of my
life for thirty two years. But I did it in
(09:27):
a nice, warm tone. I didn't have to think I
was talking to a child, and why I went that
way was only because of the poets in the Forest,
that series that I did back in the nineteen nineties.
Your creative outbursts, ask questions. If you don't like what
you're putting out there, ask questions and then question the answers.
(09:49):
You were born to be creative. Stop shutting yourself off.
Stop letting other people control who you are. What I
know in my heart got a lot of art in you.
Let your art fly, Hye Maril, And that's vocal defray.
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