December 22, 2025 • 28 mins
Welcome back to the studio. This is My Day of Play, where you’re taken into the real events and actions of how it happens long before the process of editing or cleaning up. The original purpose of these episodes was to give my broadcasting students something to edit, to practice with and to call their own. Then I realized that you are just as important. Share the reality of how it really went. We begin things with Victora Castillo creator of Fugitive Hunters Mexico on A&E. Then we’ll leap into a revealing conversation with film and screenwriter Joshua Zetumer the creator of Hulu’s/FX’s Say Nothing. And we’ll wrap things up with Sarah Janssen, the editor of one of the biggest selling books of all time… The Almanac! This is My Day of Play. Completely unedited in the way of meeting the wizard behind the curtain.
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before the process of editing or cleaning up. The original
purpose of these episodes was to give my broadcasting students
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something to edit, to practice with and to call their own.
And then I realized, hold on a second, here, you're
just as important as they are. We begin things with
Victoria Costello, creator of Fugitive Hunters Mexico on A and E.
Then we're going to leap into a revealing conversation with
film and screenwriter Joshua Zeedemer, the creator of Hulu's slash
(01:04):
FX's Say Nothing, and we'll wrap things up with Sarah Jansen,
the editor of one of the biggest selling books of
all time, The Almanac. This is my day of play,
completely unedited in the way of meeting the wizard behind
the curtain. Hi, how are you doing today? Victoria?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
How are you so anxious to talk with you? Because
I've got to tell you this is one of the
most educational shows I think I've seen in a very
very long time, because we don't know the other side
of truth. But you watch this show and all of
a sudden, it's like I didn't know, I didn't know,
but we get the full experience.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, that's right, very educational.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh, it is in the way that you know, so
many people, you know, most Americans are going, oh, you know,
people are running away from not you guys, you're running
toward the fire. You're going to the problem and you're
finding a solution.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yep, exactly, straight into straight into the fire.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Literally, it really is because I mean, and where you
guys gain that confidence. I mean, it's it's it's got
to be about the teamwork. It's got to be about
having the vision of making sure that you make a
difference in everybody's life and not just a few.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely teamwork. It's the
it's the agents, it's the camera crew, it's myself and
of course you know the the civilians. You know that
there's so much at stake. I was completely immersed in
this high stake world of the Mexican Police and it's no,
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it's no joke. It's very serious and yeah, it was
a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Well see.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And that's the one thing that I love about it
is it's it's like true crime in the way of
going no, this is the real stuff. And I mean
it's like these are real men, real women, and they're
in there to make a point.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh yeah, this is this is real time, real events,
real cases.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We're just going long for the ride.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I got to be completely immersed with them and go
on on the job with them. This isn't it's it's
television going with them, not them adjusting to television. So
I think that's the most interesting aspect. You know, you
basically sign your life away and they give you, you know,
a vest and say where this and you know, hope
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for the best and hopefully you can hang and that's
you'll see. I mean, once I think it premieres, the
audience is in for a wild ride.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You get to see the other side of.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The coin, you know, the side that you don't normally
hear about, which is Americans going into Mexico and you know,
thinking it's a free for all and they can just
live happily ever after as American criminals, and you simply can't.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
This is a different time.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, Victoria, we experienced that here in Charlotte because when
they had that Loomis Fargo million dollar heist out of Charlotte,
they went to Mexico. It was the Mexican police that
meant that, you know, closed in and made sure that
every one of those people were sent back and they're
in jail.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And those are the type of cases that that they're prioritizing.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This unit specifically.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
They work directly with the FBI, with the DA with
US Marshals, and these cases are priority and it's it's
high stakes, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I'm there with them. The cameras are there.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
The audience will get to see everything from the investigation,
from the original tip that they.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Get from from the US.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Obviously, as you know, the United States doesn't have jurisdiction
in Mexico, so they need they need help. So it's
both governments working together. I think that's so interesting and
the audience will get to see that as well, from
the investigation, to surveillances, to special operations, to the actual capture,
the arrest, the post arrest processing. I get you into
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view the fugitives and try to get to the bottom
of their stories and how they got to be where
they are, How did you end up here?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Why?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And more than anything, what is life like as a fugitive?
What is life like on the run? And you'd be
surprised the stories, the things people share, and you know
a lot of times it's the last the last time
they'll get to share their story before you know, facing
facing their alleged crimes in the United States. So after that,
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you know, it's deportation.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And we go all the way.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You get to see the entire process. So it's very unique.
It's something it's access that is not easy to come by,
and it's something that's never been done before.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Can't imagine where your heart is though, when you're sitting
across from a fugitive and you're looking eye to eye,
their soul is on you and it's you've got to
have a moment of trust there for them to even
open up to you, there's got to be a connection.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh absolutely, Oh you got that right.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And it's it's it's a like a moment, it's momentary.
You need to earn their trust. They need to know
that they can let that wall down, they can let
that guard down, and they listen, they've just been arrested.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They're in the most vulnerable moment.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Of their entire life, and you have just a few
minutes to get in there and try to get this story.
Who's in the mood to talk to someone who's in
the mood to give an interview. And I think that
it's just a matter of they have to feel that
I'm real, that I'm authentic, that I'm being honest and listen,
I'm I'm not a cop.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm just here.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I want to know your side of the story, Like
how did I listen? I was there for the arrest,
what happened?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How did that? How did you end up here?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, like I'm going to hear the side of
you know, the police, But what what do you have
to say?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Like you tell me and I was You know, you'd
be surprised.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
How much they do share and how much they not
everyone but for the most part, I think I got
pretty lucky with getting them to open up. But you know,
it's it takes it takes tact for sure, I do
say myself.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The big question is is that what do you do
about that addiction to adrenaline, Because when you're out there,
I've seen it. I've experienced it in watching the previews
and things, and the adrenaline rush that you had to
go through that becomes an addiction.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh yeah, oh so you know, so you get it.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I do get it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I do get it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's yeah, it's definitely addicting. It's it's it's the it's
the highest high. And I yeah, I think as as
a journalist a reporter, you you understand it's just something
that you have to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Love or else do something else. You have to about it.
You have to.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It has to be something you would rather be doing
nothing else, because if there is anything else that you
can do and go do that. For me, that it's
the adrenaline. It's the stories, it's getting to know people,
it's documenting life. It's it's true crime, it's law and orders,
you know, criminal justice, all of that I'm hooked on.
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And definitely, you know, being a part immersed completely with
with this team. Yeah, I don't know how I can
beat that kind of adrenaline.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It was a lot. It was definitely want more.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, you've got to come back to this show anytime
in the future. The door is always going to be
open for you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Likewise, don't forget to tune in first day January second, please.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Do not move. Joshua Zedemer, the creator of Say Nothing
on FX, is coming up next. Hey, thanks for coming
back to my day of play. Let's get into that
talk with Joshua Zedemer, the creator of FX's Say Nothing.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Your lunch three.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You can say hello, hello.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And good morning. How are you doing today? I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me, dude. I got to tell you something.
You've got a work of art here in the way.
And here's why I feel that way. It's because I
grew up in this time and age. It didn't we
didn't have the internet. We had to rely on the
five PM news or tomorrow's newspaper. And you take us
into a storyline that was huge in our lives, and
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I get a better understanding of what what the conviction
is and and and the devotion is of all people involved.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I'm glad you felt like it was meaningful. It was
definitely an epic undertaking making the show. It took it
took five years to bring into screen, and you know
it was you know, I'm very proud of it, and
I'm glad that it's.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Resonating with you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Does it bring up the energy of both sides involved
in the way they're going? Oh, I didn't know either.
Maybe I should have more compassion for the other side.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
I mean, I don't know if the people involved ended
up with more compassion for the other side, to be
honest with you, but I think that when it came
to creating the show. You know, I'm an outsiders you
can tell from my accent. I'm I'm I'm an American.
I'm from California actually, And I think, you know, at
its best, one of the things that being an outsider.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Does is it affords you a degree of objectivity, right.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
You know, I didn't get into this with any political
acts to grind. You know, I didn't get into it
caring about one side over the other. You know, the
the Catholics in Belfast, the British, or the Protestants in Belfast.
You know, I didn't have any any allegiance to one
person or another. And so I think one of the
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things that I really tried to do in the shows
remain to some degree objective and just try to tell
you what happened without judging the characters.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that you know that's true for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
One of the things that shocked me is I did
not know the mother of ten that disappeared. And you know,
we just assumed that we know what is the instigator
when it comes to creating wars like this, But I
had no idea what this story was about until you
began to share it with us.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
You know, the abduction of Gene mcconvall is one of
the things that is one of the most notorious crimes
of the Troubles, and you know it was you know,
I have to say, I didn't know a ton about
it until I read the book you know that the
series is based on, which is a book by the
same name, Say Nothing by Patrick Raden Toooth and and
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you know that was he really I think for a
lot of people shed a lot of light on what
happened to Gene mcconball and as well as the story
of the Price sisters. I mean, the most troubles stories
are predominantly male stories. When we think about people in
the IRA, typically it's typically men, to be honest, and
Dollars Dollars was the IRA's first kind of full blooded soldier,
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the first one who was allowed to kind of carry
a gun and fight alongside the men.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And the stories of her.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
And the story of g mcconbell, you know, the two
main threads in the series.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And yeah, I think for.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
People in Ireland they know the story very intimately, a
particularly people in Northern Ireland. The funny thing is, you know,
Ireland people down in the Republic of Ireland.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Some of them.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Knew far and far less about the troubles. They knew far,
far less about what was going.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
On over the border to the north.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
And I think hopefully what the show can do is
just bring these two stories.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Which I think are so resonant, you know, to a
wider audience.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Don't you think you should bring Dolores's Prices story to
a new generation where people can do the research, they
can google it, they can go and find out who
she was and what what I mean, what she paid
for the price.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think the show definitely wants to send
you down an internet rabbit hole for sure. I think
there's there's so much else to learn after watching the show.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, people should read the book.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
As soon as they as soon as they finished the
show if they want to learn more of the best
thing to do. But beyond that, you know, there are
thousands and thousands of perspectives in the Troubles. We couldn't
possibly capture everything in one season of television. So yeah,
I do hope that people continue to do more more
research into dollars, into Gim mccondall, and frankly into the disappeared.
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You know, there there were many people who were were
killed by the IRA who who disappeared, and the families
were never told and you know there are you there
are people who are still out there whose bodies haven't
been found, and you know, we really hope that the
show can raise awareness.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I mean, you know, I think without getting into.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Too much of the meat of the show, you know,
there's a card at the end of the show that
says that there are that there are four bodies that
are still still out there still haven't been found, and
the show is really encouraging anybody who has any information
to step forward.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
How were you able to make that transition from a
book to the to the moving pictures, because I mean,
when you're reading the book, you're getting your own interpretation,
but now when I'm watching this on Hulu, it's like, oh,
I can sit there and look at your view of
what the story is about.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I mean, I think the first thing was anything that
felt like too much of a history lesson.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I just wanted to cut. With the exception of some.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Table setting in the first episode, right, which you kind
of have to do. Anything that felt like it wasn't
honest to the emotional experience of the characters, I just
quickly wanted to cut.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And so that was the first thing, right.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
I wanted to make it an emotional journey that really
like got you under the skin of these kids who
were radicalizing, who were you know, trying to change the world.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And felt like violence was the only way to do it.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
I really wanted to capture the exuberance of what it
felt like to be a teenager or in your early
twenties and get caught up in a movement and that
meant that sometimes it was.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Fun for lack of a better word.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Dollars has a quote where she says, I'm ashamed to
admit it was fun in those days, and you know,
I really took I took that to heart in the
writing process, and I didn't the show is obviously not
all not all fun and games. Right the first half
of this, the first half of the series, you know,
you feel the sort of exuberance of youth, and in
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the back half you kind of get the hangover, which
is like all these these characters now in middle age
grappling with the decisions they made when they were kids.
I mean, the series, the series is a look at
what happens when you give life and death decisions.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
You put life and death.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Decisions in the hands of teenagers and people who are
in their early twenties, and then you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Sort of watched the fallout from that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
And so that was that was the thing I was
trying to capture and stream. I was if people learned
something along the way, that's terrific.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
But I think I think.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
You know, my utmost goal was to get you inside
the emotional experience of the people who are living in Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I've been with the members of the Sex Pistols, Johnny
Rotten and everybody, and he used to he always told me,
you don't know how bad it was, Arrow, you don't
know how bad it was. Our way of getting the
word out there was through the music. Did you find
that as well, you don't know how bad it was,
or just the fact that they they they turned those
circumstances into music, into punk rock, into the movements. You
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know that it affected so many people.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I mean, turning the different it says that turning the
turning that moment into punk rock is undeniably a good thing, right.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I think I couldn't compare I couldn't compare acts of
political violence to punk rock, which is, you know, one of.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
My favorite musical genres, to be honest, though, you know,
and I think the thing that's similar.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Is perhaps is perhaps the energy.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
You know that that that sort of history was happening
in the streets. You know, history was happening every day
in the streets in Belfast. And by the way, if
you're interested in punk, there is an amazing Belfast punk
scene that sort of came out a little later in
the late seventies. It's a terrific a terrific film called
Good Vibrations that you could check out about the Belfast
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punk scene.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
They have it. There's an amazing quote I'm going to
I'm going to mess it up.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I think it's something like New York has the bands,
London has the trousers, but Belfast.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Has the reason.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
As in the reason, the reason, the reason to be punk,
you know, which is which is back there in a
sectarian society where everyone is, you know, bombs are going
off every day.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But anyway, I digress. But I don't know those are.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
The only That's all I would really say about punk before,
you know, I think it's very important for me not
to judge too much, uh, the the the actions of
anyone side Catholics, Protestants, the British, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And I really think this series is trying to leave
people with a question.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Regarding the High Rais actions, rather than saying that.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
That they're you know, good or bad.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I think I think the question I would love to
leave people with watching the show.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Is just beliefs.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Wow, You've got to come back to this show anytime
in the future, Joshua. The door is always going to
be open for you.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh, thank you very much. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Okay, all right. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Coming up next, we've got an editor from one of
the biggest selling books of all time, The Almanac. It's
Sarah Janssen. Hey, thanks for coming back to my day
of play. It's time to talk with Sarah Jansen from
The Almanac. Yes, yes, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Absolutely fantastic? I mean, here we are. This has become
such an annual event for so many generations, the next
World Almanac.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, it is.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
A tradition, I think for a lot of people. The
World Almanac has been published since eighteen sixty eight, and
some people have been buying it or receiving it as
a gift for really their entire lives. It's always an
up to date resource to have for any upcoming year, no.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Matter what you're getting your World Almanac.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
One of the things that I always love about the
World Almanac is the fact that the the choice of
colors on the front cover. And that's not to judge
a book by its cover, but I notice it's read
this year, and I feel a tremendous amount of energy.
Was there anything in the marketing when it comes to
the color red.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
You know, we haven't actually done any you know, specific
scientific research as far as that goes. We do change
the color every year, and generally in election years, those
tend to be either red, white, or blue, just because
you know, people are in a patriotic space, or at
least they have patriotics on their minds, so that tends
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to happen in election years. I definitely think this cover
is a great one. It does show a lot of
different things that happened in twenty twenty four, not just
the election. We also have Ariana Grande starting Wicked this year,
We've got someone files, you know, a lot of great
events of twenty twenty four are represented on this year's cover.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
One of my favorite things in the book is just
the information. I'm not sitting there on a computer, I'm
not sitting there on some other digital device. I get
to patiently take my time to go through these pages.
I mean, and it doesn't mean that I'm an old guy.
It's just that you have so much much valuable information here.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
You know, that's the goal with the World Almanac, and
we know that most people don't actually sit down and
read it cover to cover, as though it's a novel,
but we do think that people will pick it up
randomly over the course of day, a week, a year,
flip to any page in particular and find something there
that they wouldn't have thought to look up online or
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that they wouldn't have come across in their day to
day without.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Picking up The World dominac.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
And I hope that's still, you know, a fun thing
for people to do, because I think that most people
are curious and want to know more about the world.
We're trying to provide a tool with the World Almanac
that can make that a lot easier on you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I would love to see the research on how people
react when they go into the year in pictures, because
even to see King Charles, not Prince Charles Wood, King
Charles and his new painting, I mean, I look at
that and it takes me right back to the moment
where it was introduced to the world.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, you know, twenty twenty four was a really eventful year.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Not just the election, you know that may have dominated
most news broadcasts.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
In twenty twenty four, it was a busy year.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
We had a lot of events that stole our attention,
everything from the Olympics to the really fat, fabulous solar
eclipse that everyone was excited about earlier this year. There
are a lot of events to think about going back
in twenty twenty four and to be remembered as we
put this book together. That was one of our goals
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to make sure that it was a really great representation
of everything that happened in twenty twenty four, and also,
you know, your tool for anything that you might have
questions about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing I like about it is
the fact that it's not necessarily a time capsule. It's
almost like saying, okay, to get where we are right
now on the Google calendar, this stuff happened. Therefore we
can still look forward to growing.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Absolutely, you know, the World dominac is a fantastic resource
to get to all of those events, as I said,
but also, you know, just for anything you might have
questions about.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
For example, in every.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
World Almanac, even though they're updated every year, you're always
going to find things like an article about every nation
in the world. You're always going to find an article
about every state in the Union. You're always going to
find a copy of the periodic table. If that's what
you have questions about you really do have all of
these things right at your fingertips, and that can you know,
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really introduce new ways to learn, new ways to grow
every single day.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
How many Swifties are going to be calling you guys
up saying hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, what about that
eras tour?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You know what, I think that they'll be happy to
see Taylor Swift both in the year in pictures. We've
got a great photo from one of her eras to
our shows. We also have you know, statistics on the
highest grossing concert tours and guess what, she's already among them.
She's already right there at the top. So definitely something
that we were keeping eye on, just as we can
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an I on everything that's going on, not just in
the news, but pop culture, in sports. We want the
World Almanac to represent all of these things.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, I love the weird stories that you put in
here because I gave you like a child. I mean,
march Mianis. How would have ever known that there was
such a thing without the World Almanac.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
March Mianis was a very fun story. Public Library decided
to really extend an olive branch to their borrowers and
anyone who had, you know, overdo book finds and maybe
lost something during the pandemic. They could get amnesty in
exchange for any cat photo, you know, a picture you
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drew a picture on your phone. They were pretty open
to anything there. So I think Marchonis is maybe something
that could sweep the public library world by storm.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I think they had a lot of fun with it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You know, listeners need to understand that the live I
was at the library yesterday for the first time and
I don't know how long, that it is not the
same library that we used to go to as younger people.
That there really is technology. You involved the people, I mean,
and that's why I mean, if people can't go out
and get the book, this book will be at a
public library.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Oh absolutely. And we love public libraries here at the
world a fantastic resource.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
It's not just you know, shelves of books arranged according
to the Dewey decimal system and that you have to
look in a card catalog anymore. You definitely have access
to a ton of technology. Some some libraries even have
you know, tool lending libraries and.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Things like that.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
They really are a public service for so many different
things in our communities.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Are you shocked at how science has become so huge
in our life these days?
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You know, it's never surprising to me what people are
curious about and want to talk about.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
I think that, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Just people are curious creatures in general, and they always
have new questions that they want answers to. So I
think it's it's pretty much to be effected that science
plays a huge role. That science news stories and the
developments and AI are things that people have questions about,
want to talk about, want to know what's going to
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happen with And that's something that we're always keeping an
eye on at the World DOMINAC.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
With so much going on in the world, how did
you even come up with the top ten stories of
the year, Because I mean there's just so much always
going on.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, you know, it really is a year long process
to track everything that's going on over the course of
the year. It helps that the.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
World DOMINAC also has a month by month news chronology,
which really just gives them news topics for every single
month of the past year. So once we take that,
we look at all of these stories that sort of
form these common threads across the entire year. Obviously, in
a presidential election year, that'll be up there in your
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top ten. But in twenty twenty four, we also had
big stories in Gaza and the Ukraine ongoing conflicts. We
also had three different major herds canes hit the US
in twenty twenty four, so lots of big news stories
really jumped out right from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Wow, where can people go to find out more about
you and the World Amanac for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Well, you can go to Worldomanac dot com and then
I'll take you to places that you can buy the
book online. You can also just go to your local bookstore,
go to your local library. You can find the World
Almanac and Book of Facts for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
There in three different formats.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
We've got the paperback, which most people are probably familiar with.
We've also got a larger hardcover for that's especially for
those who have trouble with the smaller type face that
the paperback uses. And then we also have an e
book edition so you can download it to your device.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Take it on the go with you.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
It's slightly more portable than that one thousand and eight
page vout you.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, the one in the digital you know, if it's
right there in my pocket on my smartphone.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I dig that.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Absolutely, absolutely take it with you everywhere you go.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
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The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
All right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I appreciate that and I'll look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
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something to edit, to practice with and to call their own.
And then I realized, hold on a second, here, you're
just as important as they are. We begin things with
Victoria Costello, creator of Fugitive Hunters Mexico on A and E.
Then we're going to leap into a revealing conversation with
film and screenwriter Joshua Zeedemer, the creator of Hulu's slash
(01:04):
FX's Say Nothing, and we'll wrap things up with Sarah Jansen,
the editor of one of the biggest selling books of
all time, The Almanac. This is my day of play,
completely unedited in the way of meeting the wizard behind
the curtain. Hi, how are you doing today? Victoria?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
How are you so anxious to talk with you? Because
I've got to tell you this is one of the
most educational shows I think I've seen in a very
very long time, because we don't know the other side
of truth. But you watch this show and all of
a sudden, it's like I didn't know, I didn't know,
but we get the full experience.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, that's right, very educational.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh, it is in the way that you know, so
many people, you know, most Americans are going, oh, you know,
people are running away from not you guys, you're running
toward the fire. You're going to the problem and you're
finding a solution.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yep, exactly, straight into straight into the fire.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Literally, it really is because I mean, and where you
guys gain that confidence. I mean, it's it's it's got
to be about the teamwork. It's got to be about
having the vision of making sure that you make a
difference in everybody's life and not just a few.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely teamwork. It's the
it's the agents, it's the camera crew, it's myself and
of course you know the the civilians. You know that
there's so much at stake. I was completely immersed in
this high stake world of the Mexican Police and it's no,
(02:37):
it's no joke. It's very serious and yeah, it was
a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Well see.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And that's the one thing that I love about it
is it's it's like true crime in the way of
going no, this is the real stuff. And I mean
it's like these are real men, real women, and they're
in there to make a point.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh yeah, this is this is real time, real events,
real cases.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We're just going long for the ride.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I got to be completely immersed with them and go
on on the job with them. This isn't it's it's
television going with them, not them adjusting to television. So
I think that's the most interesting aspect. You know, you
basically sign your life away and they give you, you know,
a vest and say where this and you know, hope
(03:21):
for the best and hopefully you can hang and that's
you'll see. I mean, once I think it premieres, the
audience is in for a wild ride.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You get to see the other side of.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The coin, you know, the side that you don't normally
hear about, which is Americans going into Mexico and you know,
thinking it's a free for all and they can just
live happily ever after as American criminals, and you simply can't.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
This is a different time.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, Victoria, we experienced that here in Charlotte because when
they had that Loomis Fargo million dollar heist out of Charlotte,
they went to Mexico. It was the Mexican police that
meant that, you know, closed in and made sure that
every one of those people were sent back and they're
in jail.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And those are the type of cases that that they're prioritizing.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This unit specifically.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
They work directly with the FBI, with the DA with
US Marshals, and these cases are priority and it's it's
high stakes, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I'm there with them. The cameras are there.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
The audience will get to see everything from the investigation,
from the original tip that they.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Get from from the US.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Obviously, as you know, the United States doesn't have jurisdiction
in Mexico, so they need they need help. So it's
both governments working together. I think that's so interesting and
the audience will get to see that as well, from
the investigation, to surveillances, to special operations, to the actual capture,
the arrest, the post arrest processing. I get you into
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view the fugitives and try to get to the bottom
of their stories and how they got to be where
they are, How did you end up here?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Why?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And more than anything, what is life like as a fugitive?
What is life like on the run? And you'd be
surprised the stories, the things people share, and you know
a lot of times it's the last the last time
they'll get to share their story before you know, facing
facing their alleged crimes in the United States. So after that,
(05:29):
you know, it's deportation.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And we go all the way.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You get to see the entire process. So it's very unique.
It's something it's access that is not easy to come by,
and it's something that's never been done before.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Can't imagine where your heart is though, when you're sitting
across from a fugitive and you're looking eye to eye,
their soul is on you and it's you've got to
have a moment of trust there for them to even
open up to you, there's got to be a connection.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh absolutely, Oh you got that right.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And it's it's it's a like a moment, it's momentary.
You need to earn their trust. They need to know
that they can let that wall down, they can let
that guard down, and they listen, they've just been arrested.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They're in the most vulnerable moment.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Of their entire life, and you have just a few
minutes to get in there and try to get this story.
Who's in the mood to talk to someone who's in
the mood to give an interview. And I think that
it's just a matter of they have to feel that
I'm real, that I'm authentic, that I'm being honest and listen,
I'm I'm not a cop.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm just here.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I want to know your side of the story, Like
how did I listen? I was there for the arrest,
what happened?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How did that? How did you end up here?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, like I'm going to hear the side of
you know, the police, But what what do you have
to say?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Like you tell me and I was You know, you'd
be surprised.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
How much they do share and how much they not
everyone but for the most part, I think I got
pretty lucky with getting them to open up. But you know,
it's it takes it takes tact for sure, I do
say myself.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The big question is is that what do you do
about that addiction to adrenaline, Because when you're out there,
I've seen it. I've experienced it in watching the previews
and things, and the adrenaline rush that you had to
go through that becomes an addiction.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh yeah, oh so you know, so you get it.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I do get it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I do get it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's yeah, it's definitely addicting. It's it's it's the it's
the highest high. And I yeah, I think as as
a journalist a reporter, you you understand it's just something
that you have to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Love or else do something else. You have to about it.
You have to.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It has to be something you would rather be doing
nothing else, because if there is anything else that you
can do and go do that. For me, that it's
the adrenaline. It's the stories, it's getting to know people,
it's documenting life. It's it's true crime, it's law and orders,
you know, criminal justice, all of that I'm hooked on.
(08:12):
And definitely, you know, being a part immersed completely with
with this team. Yeah, I don't know how I can
beat that kind of adrenaline.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It was a lot. It was definitely want more.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, you've got to come back to this show anytime
in the future. The door is always going to be
open for you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Likewise, don't forget to tune in first day January second, please.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Do not move. Joshua Zedemer, the creator of Say Nothing
on FX, is coming up next. Hey, thanks for coming
back to my day of play. Let's get into that
talk with Joshua Zedemer, the creator of FX's Say Nothing.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Your lunch three.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You can say hello, hello.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And good morning. How are you doing today? I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me, dude. I got to tell you something.
You've got a work of art here in the way.
And here's why I feel that way. It's because I
grew up in this time and age. It didn't we
didn't have the internet. We had to rely on the
five PM news or tomorrow's newspaper. And you take us
into a storyline that was huge in our lives, and
(09:26):
I get a better understanding of what what the conviction
is and and and the devotion is of all people involved.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I'm glad you felt like it was meaningful. It was
definitely an epic undertaking making the show. It took it
took five years to bring into screen, and you know
it was you know, I'm very proud of it, and
I'm glad that it's.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Resonating with you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Does it bring up the energy of both sides involved
in the way they're going? Oh, I didn't know either.
Maybe I should have more compassion for the other side.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
I mean, I don't know if the people involved ended
up with more compassion for the other side, to be
honest with you, but I think that when it came
to creating the show. You know, I'm an outsiders you
can tell from my accent. I'm I'm I'm an American.
I'm from California actually, And I think, you know, at
its best, one of the things that being an outsider.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Does is it affords you a degree of objectivity, right.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
You know, I didn't get into this with any political
acts to grind. You know, I didn't get into it
caring about one side over the other. You know, the
the Catholics in Belfast, the British, or the Protestants in Belfast.
You know, I didn't have any any allegiance to one
person or another. And so I think one of the
(10:48):
things that I really tried to do in the shows
remain to some degree objective and just try to tell
you what happened without judging the characters.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that you know that's true for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
One of the things that shocked me is I did
not know the mother of ten that disappeared. And you know,
we just assumed that we know what is the instigator
when it comes to creating wars like this, But I
had no idea what this story was about until you
began to share it with us.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
You know, the abduction of Gene mcconvall is one of
the things that is one of the most notorious crimes
of the Troubles, and you know it was you know,
I have to say, I didn't know a ton about
it until I read the book you know that the
series is based on, which is a book by the
same name, Say Nothing by Patrick Raden Toooth and and
(11:42):
you know that was he really I think for a
lot of people shed a lot of light on what
happened to Gene mcconball and as well as the story
of the Price sisters. I mean, the most troubles stories
are predominantly male stories. When we think about people in
the IRA, typically it's typically men, to be honest, and
Dollars Dollars was the IRA's first kind of full blooded soldier,
(12:07):
the first one who was allowed to kind of carry
a gun and fight alongside the men.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And the stories of her.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
And the story of g mcconbell, you know, the two
main threads in the series.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And yeah, I think for.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
People in Ireland they know the story very intimately, a
particularly people in Northern Ireland. The funny thing is, you know,
Ireland people down in the Republic of Ireland.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Some of them.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Knew far and far less about the troubles. They knew far,
far less about what was going.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
On over the border to the north.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
And I think hopefully what the show can do is
just bring these two stories.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Which I think are so resonant, you know, to a
wider audience.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Don't you think you should bring Dolores's Prices story to
a new generation where people can do the research, they
can google it, they can go and find out who
she was and what what I mean, what she paid
for the price.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think the show definitely wants to send
you down an internet rabbit hole for sure. I think
there's there's so much else to learn after watching the show.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, people should read the book.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
As soon as they as soon as they finished the
show if they want to learn more of the best
thing to do. But beyond that, you know, there are
thousands and thousands of perspectives in the Troubles. We couldn't
possibly capture everything in one season of television. So yeah,
I do hope that people continue to do more more
research into dollars, into Gim mccondall, and frankly into the disappeared.
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You know, there there were many people who were were
killed by the IRA who who disappeared, and the families
were never told and you know there are you there
are people who are still out there whose bodies haven't
been found, and you know, we really hope that the
show can raise awareness.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I mean, you know, I think without getting into.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Too much of the meat of the show, you know,
there's a card at the end of the show that
says that there are that there are four bodies that
are still still out there still haven't been found, and
the show is really encouraging anybody who has any information
to step forward.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
How were you able to make that transition from a
book to the to the moving pictures, because I mean,
when you're reading the book, you're getting your own interpretation,
but now when I'm watching this on Hulu, it's like, oh,
I can sit there and look at your view of
what the story is about.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I mean, I think the first thing was anything that
felt like too much of a history lesson.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I just wanted to cut. With the exception of some.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Table setting in the first episode, right, which you kind
of have to do. Anything that felt like it wasn't
honest to the emotional experience of the characters, I just
quickly wanted to cut.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And so that was the first thing, right.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
I wanted to make it an emotional journey that really
like got you under the skin of these kids who
were radicalizing, who were you know, trying to change the world.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And felt like violence was the only way to do it.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
I really wanted to capture the exuberance of what it
felt like to be a teenager or in your early
twenties and get caught up in a movement and that
meant that sometimes it was.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Fun for lack of a better word.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Dollars has a quote where she says, I'm ashamed to
admit it was fun in those days, and you know,
I really took I took that to heart in the
writing process, and I didn't the show is obviously not
all not all fun and games. Right the first half
of this, the first half of the series, you know,
you feel the sort of exuberance of youth, and in
(15:51):
the back half you kind of get the hangover, which
is like all these these characters now in middle age
grappling with the decisions they made when they were kids.
I mean, the series, the series is a look at
what happens when you give life and death decisions.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
You put life and death.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Decisions in the hands of teenagers and people who are
in their early twenties, and then you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Sort of watched the fallout from that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
And so that was that was the thing I was
trying to capture and stream. I was if people learned
something along the way, that's terrific.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
But I think I think.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
You know, my utmost goal was to get you inside
the emotional experience of the people who are living in Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I've been with the members of the Sex Pistols, Johnny
Rotten and everybody, and he used to he always told me,
you don't know how bad it was, Arrow, you don't
know how bad it was. Our way of getting the
word out there was through the music. Did you find
that as well, you don't know how bad it was,
or just the fact that they they they turned those
circumstances into music, into punk rock, into the movements. You
(16:54):
know that it affected so many people.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I mean, turning the different it says that turning the
turning that moment into punk rock is undeniably a good thing, right.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I think I couldn't compare I couldn't compare acts of
political violence to punk rock, which is, you know, one of.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
My favorite musical genres, to be honest, though, you know,
and I think the thing that's similar.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Is perhaps is perhaps the energy.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
You know that that that sort of history was happening
in the streets. You know, history was happening every day
in the streets in Belfast. And by the way, if
you're interested in punk, there is an amazing Belfast punk
scene that sort of came out a little later in
the late seventies. It's a terrific a terrific film called
Good Vibrations that you could check out about the Belfast
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punk scene.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
They have it. There's an amazing quote I'm going to
I'm going to mess it up.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I think it's something like New York has the bands,
London has the trousers, but Belfast.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Has the reason.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
As in the reason, the reason, the reason to be punk,
you know, which is which is back there in a
sectarian society where everyone is, you know, bombs are going
off every day.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But anyway, I digress. But I don't know those are.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
The only That's all I would really say about punk before,
you know, I think it's very important for me not
to judge too much, uh, the the the actions of
anyone side Catholics, Protestants, the British, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And I really think this series is trying to leave
people with a question.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Regarding the High Rais actions, rather than saying that.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
That they're you know, good or bad.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I think I think the question I would love to
leave people with watching the show.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Is just beliefs.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Wow, You've got to come back to this show anytime
in the future, Joshua. The door is always going to
be open for you.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh, thank you very much. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Okay, all right. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Coming up next, we've got an editor from one of
the biggest selling books of all time, The Almanac. It's
Sarah Janssen. Hey, thanks for coming back to my day
of play. It's time to talk with Sarah Jansen from
The Almanac. Yes, yes, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Absolutely fantastic? I mean, here we are. This has become
such an annual event for so many generations, the next
World Almanac.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, it is.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
A tradition, I think for a lot of people. The
World Almanac has been published since eighteen sixty eight, and
some people have been buying it or receiving it as
a gift for really their entire lives. It's always an
up to date resource to have for any upcoming year, no.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Matter what you're getting your World Almanac.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
One of the things that I always love about the
World Almanac is the fact that the the choice of
colors on the front cover. And that's not to judge
a book by its cover, but I notice it's read
this year, and I feel a tremendous amount of energy.
Was there anything in the marketing when it comes to
the color red.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
You know, we haven't actually done any you know, specific
scientific research as far as that goes. We do change
the color every year, and generally in election years, those
tend to be either red, white, or blue, just because
you know, people are in a patriotic space, or at
least they have patriotics on their minds, so that tends
(20:24):
to happen in election years. I definitely think this cover
is a great one. It does show a lot of
different things that happened in twenty twenty four, not just
the election. We also have Ariana Grande starting Wicked this year,
We've got someone files, you know, a lot of great
events of twenty twenty four are represented on this year's cover.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
One of my favorite things in the book is just
the information. I'm not sitting there on a computer, I'm
not sitting there on some other digital device. I get
to patiently take my time to go through these pages.
I mean, and it doesn't mean that I'm an old guy.
It's just that you have so much much valuable information here.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
You know, that's the goal with the World Almanac, and
we know that most people don't actually sit down and
read it cover to cover, as though it's a novel,
but we do think that people will pick it up
randomly over the course of day, a week, a year,
flip to any page in particular and find something there
that they wouldn't have thought to look up online or
(21:23):
that they wouldn't have come across in their day to
day without.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Picking up The World dominac.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
And I hope that's still, you know, a fun thing
for people to do, because I think that most people
are curious and want to know more about the world.
We're trying to provide a tool with the World Almanac
that can make that a lot easier on you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I would love to see the research on how people
react when they go into the year in pictures, because
even to see King Charles, not Prince Charles Wood, King
Charles and his new painting, I mean, I look at
that and it takes me right back to the moment
where it was introduced to the world.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, you know, twenty twenty four was a really eventful year.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Not just the election, you know that may have dominated
most news broadcasts.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
In twenty twenty four, it was a busy year.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
We had a lot of events that stole our attention,
everything from the Olympics to the really fat, fabulous solar
eclipse that everyone was excited about earlier this year. There
are a lot of events to think about going back
in twenty twenty four and to be remembered as we
put this book together. That was one of our goals
(22:28):
to make sure that it was a really great representation
of everything that happened in twenty twenty four, and also,
you know, your tool for anything that you might have
questions about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing I like about it is
the fact that it's not necessarily a time capsule. It's
almost like saying, okay, to get where we are right
now on the Google calendar, this stuff happened. Therefore we
can still look forward to growing.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Absolutely, you know, the World dominac is a fantastic resource
to get to all of those events, as I said,
but also, you know, just for anything you might have
questions about.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
For example, in every.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
World Almanac, even though they're updated every year, you're always
going to find things like an article about every nation
in the world. You're always going to find an article
about every state in the Union. You're always going to
find a copy of the periodic table. If that's what
you have questions about you really do have all of
these things right at your fingertips, and that can you know,
(23:28):
really introduce new ways to learn, new ways to grow
every single day.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
How many Swifties are going to be calling you guys
up saying hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, what about that
eras tour?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You know what, I think that they'll be happy to
see Taylor Swift both in the year in pictures. We've
got a great photo from one of her eras to
our shows. We also have you know, statistics on the
highest grossing concert tours and guess what, she's already among them.
She's already right there at the top. So definitely something
that we were keeping eye on, just as we can
(24:00):
an I on everything that's going on, not just in
the news, but pop culture, in sports. We want the
World Almanac to represent all of these things.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, I love the weird stories that you put in
here because I gave you like a child. I mean,
march Mianis. How would have ever known that there was
such a thing without the World Almanac.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
March Mianis was a very fun story. Public Library decided
to really extend an olive branch to their borrowers and
anyone who had, you know, overdo book finds and maybe
lost something during the pandemic. They could get amnesty in
exchange for any cat photo, you know, a picture you
(24:37):
drew a picture on your phone. They were pretty open
to anything there. So I think Marchonis is maybe something
that could sweep the public library world by storm.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I think they had a lot of fun with it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You know, listeners need to understand that the live I
was at the library yesterday for the first time and
I don't know how long, that it is not the
same library that we used to go to as younger people.
That there really is technology. You involved the people, I mean,
and that's why I mean, if people can't go out
and get the book, this book will be at a
public library.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Oh absolutely. And we love public libraries here at the
world a fantastic resource.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
It's not just you know, shelves of books arranged according
to the Dewey decimal system and that you have to
look in a card catalog anymore. You definitely have access
to a ton of technology. Some some libraries even have
you know, tool lending libraries and.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Things like that.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
They really are a public service for so many different
things in our communities.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Are you shocked at how science has become so huge
in our life these days?
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You know, it's never surprising to me what people are
curious about and want to talk about.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
I think that, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Just people are curious creatures in general, and they always
have new questions that they want answers to. So I
think it's it's pretty much to be effected that science
plays a huge role. That science news stories and the
developments and AI are things that people have questions about,
want to talk about, want to know what's going to
(26:10):
happen with And that's something that we're always keeping an
eye on at the World DOMINAC.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
With so much going on in the world, how did
you even come up with the top ten stories of
the year, Because I mean there's just so much always
going on.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, you know, it really is a year long process
to track everything that's going on over the course of
the year. It helps that the.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
World DOMINAC also has a month by month news chronology,
which really just gives them news topics for every single
month of the past year. So once we take that,
we look at all of these stories that sort of
form these common threads across the entire year. Obviously, in
a presidential election year, that'll be up there in your
(26:50):
top ten. But in twenty twenty four, we also had
big stories in Gaza and the Ukraine ongoing conflicts. We
also had three different major herds canes hit the US
in twenty twenty four, so lots of big news stories
really jumped out right from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Wow, where can people go to find out more about
you and the World Amanac for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Well, you can go to Worldomanac dot com and then
I'll take you to places that you can buy the
book online. You can also just go to your local bookstore,
go to your local library. You can find the World
Almanac and Book of Facts for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
There in three different formats.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
We've got the paperback, which most people are probably familiar with.
We've also got a larger hardcover for that's especially for
those who have trouble with the smaller type face that
the paperback uses. And then we also have an e
book edition so you can download it to your device.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Take it on the go with you.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
It's slightly more portable than that one thousand and eight
page vout you.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, the one in the digital you know, if it's
right there in my pocket on my smartphone.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I dig that.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Absolutely, absolutely take it with you everywhere you go.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
All right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I appreciate that and I'll look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You'd be brilliant.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Okay, thank you so much.
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