October 31, 2025 • 22 mins
Pod Crashing episode 405 with Lex Borrero from the podcast You Versus You. In the podcast "You vs You," host Lex Borrero dives into the personal battles and triumphs of entertainment's most accomplished figures. Through candid discussions, the show aims to unveil the human side of these celebrated individuals, stripping away their heroic facades. By sharing their stories of vulnerability and resilience, "You vs You" seeks to motivate listeners to confront their own challenges, unlock their potential, and pursue their dream lives with newfound freedom and inspiration, Episodes available here:Https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-you-vs-you-w-lex-borrero-278703875/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's almost like one stop shopping, except you can get
all the podcasts in one place for free. There's no
shopping involved. Arrow dot net a R r Oe dot Net.
Hey wanna thank you for being a part of the conversation.
Let's do some pod crashing. Episode number four oh five
is with Lex Barrero from the podcast You Versus You. Lex?
(00:21):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm very well, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm excited to share conversation with you because your podcast
is everything that I have been studying my entire life.
You versus You? Oh my god. I've been a daily
writer for thirty two years and you really dive into
this in ways where even I am learning things.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to talk about this.
This is my passion project and I really consider it
to be in my life mission.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Is it because you went through a few storms in
your life and you thought, Wow, if this is working
for me, what are others using?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I think it's because I'm continuously going through storms, so
I think it's It's the reason for this podcast is
that this process is a daily process in all of us,
and it's reprogramming our mind and most importantly, having the
courage to face ourselves in the mirror and look inside.
And that's a continuous effort on a daily, on a
(01:17):
minute by minute moment. And I'm enjoying my journey and
I'm enjoying sharing that because I'm seeing the transformation is
making on myself and my family, on the people around me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
When when we talk about you versus you, there's a
couple of things that that you know, I see as triggers.
And one of them is is that when I get
when I look in the bathroom mirror and I say,
how are you doing today? Wait a second, Why am
I asking myself that question? I am me being me?
And the other thing that I deal with is that
the candy coded plastic bathroom mirror smile. Don't fake your
smile in the mirror. What do you deal with?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I've been saying. I think it's what I deal with is,
you know, learning to perceive the information that's happening. So
when I wake up in my day and I see
a text message and I might get triggered, and I
might get stressed on stopping in that moment and being
able to really process, why is that taking me out
of my piece? Right? It's just pe of information. I'm
(02:13):
filtering it through my trauma, through my own lessons, through
my belief systems, to my fear, and I'm learning to
reprogram that part. But I'm also learning to understand that
the biggest superhero exists is yourself. You are everything you
could be internally, and if you can accept yourself, if
(02:34):
you can love every part of who you are and
genuinely talk to yourself, I think the beautiful thing about
the mind is that it doesn't know the difference between
truth or false, right. It only knows what you tell it.
So the question is what kind of conversation are you
having with yourself? Because you're a lot more kind to
other people. You might tell someone walking on the street day,
I like your hat, you look good, But when you
(02:55):
look at yourself in the mirror, you're like, I look chunky.
I should go to the GIT often. And it's like,
well that's what your mind thinks. Your mind starts processing
the information as like, okay, he wants to look chunky,
And I say, the energy of life is very simple,
It says, arrow you, I can show you whatever you
want to see, just show me how it feels. And
(03:17):
so the question is what are you showing your mind
that it should feel Should it feel fear? Should it
feel love? Should it you know one of the things
you're saying to yourself, and how you're protecting the words
that you're telling yourself, and so on the podcast, I
ask every single guest at the end, what is one
word or one phrase you can tell yourself that you
know your mind, body, and soul needs to hear right now.
(03:38):
And I'm really surprised because there's the moment on the
show where most of our guests are pause, they're frozen.
And I've even had a guess after an hour conversation
about the power of words say even though I don't
believe it, I'm secure, and he called himself, oh my God,
Like that's how I'm speaking to myself. So the words
(04:01):
we tell ourselves are is everything. Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I totally agree with you with that. And the reason
why I mean, he's sitting in this podcast studio doing
six to ten interviews per day. There are many times
I'm under so much stress, but then from out of nowhere,
I'll go I love you, and I'll go I love
you back, and man, if that doesn't change the entire course, lex.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It transforms your mind, hears and it will reflect in
your whole body. And even stress right stress is a story.
It is this idea that if we don't handle this
right now, or if we don't do it this way,
that you know, something will fail or we won't grow.
And like I tell my own team and my business
(04:44):
is I say, hey, everything is a gift. Yep. There's
people that less talented than you that have more successive,
people more talented than you that have lex success. Everything
is a gift. What we've been gifted is the opportunity
to be good shepherds of that gift. And that's where
the discipline and the hard work and the focus comes
into play. But the truth is a gift. You can
you can slow down your day, as I'm finding out,
(05:06):
a slow down my life and face this fear that
if I didn't hustle every single day, I was gonna
make less. And what I find is that my mind
can actually clear itself. I can think clearly, and the
new opportunities come up that you know, have been more
fruitful than if I would have been stressing myself the
whole day.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The podcast we're talking about is you versus you. It
doesn't matter who you are, how famous you are, there's
always a human being on the inside. And I'm gonna
give you a good example of how I've been studying this.
For the past two to three years. The press has
been bashing Justin Bieber. Never once did we ever think
that he was creatively inside that studio, And now that
Swag has been released, it is the greatest collection of
(05:45):
music I have ever heard from this kid.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I think this idea of how we look at people
and we judge them is we don't understand. We're all
just humans trying to figure it out. Yep. It doesn't
matter who you are, if you're the successful artist, entrepreneur,
if you're the guy you know, cleaning the bathrooms or
picking up the garbage. We're just humans trying to figure
(06:12):
it out. And what artists have is they have the
courage to put these feelings and emotions in music to
express themselves, and we connect with it because we don't
know how to put it intowards and that's great artistry.
And so when you see someone like Beaver go through
everything he's gone through and you know, have to face
himself and have to deal with the fame and the
(06:34):
stories and the news plus whatever else he's dealing with
by himself, and then have the courage to still go
in the studio and put it into music to express it.
That's why I think artists are so special because they
have the courage to be themselves even in the midst
of the worst situations where most of us would hide,
(06:55):
where most of us would would try to become somebody
something else, they have the courage to just face everybody,
all the criticisms and say, here you go, these are
the deepest thoughts and feelings of my heart and doing
this so that you can be inspired, and that that's courageous,
that deserves On the plot.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Please do not move. There's more with Lex Berrero coming
up next. The name of the podcast is You Versus You.
We're back with Lex Berrero. Listeners need to understand that
your your purpose of this of this podcast, You versus You,
is the fact that you're doing it for the listener
because you're using the stories of other people to give
them an open door to say, oh, I can relate
(07:33):
with what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Correct, I think is the understanding and this showing to
the guests that we've invited both you know, from highly
successful people or spiritual or very accomplished doctors and professionals,
and the health estimate is to show that we're all
going through this and sometimes we think that we are
(07:56):
less than sometimes, you know, we unfortunately live in a
world world where we are faced with these stories and
scrolling the pages of what everybody else has, and we
start feeling this idea that we are missing something and
that that's why we're not good enough. That's why my
life is not happy is because I don't have those things,
because I'm not dating that person, or I don't have
that car. My career is not going the way I want.
(08:18):
And that is done in a way to program you
so that we can sell you things. Right. That's if
you look at Instagram, they'll tell you. You know you're
tired of being fat, Well, here's the solution. But the
reality is everything you need to be okay is inside
of you. And that's what we're trying to show in
these conversations, which is the biggest most accomplished people are
(08:40):
dealing with this. But the things that they have done right,
the things that they've been able to master, is the
understanding of their superpower. That are understanding that looking inside
and truly loving and appreciating yourself. Even if that's you know,
your superpower in one area is still enough to get
you through the storm. And also that's understanding, which is
(09:04):
we are so scared and we've been taught to run
from hard times. But the truth is in the hard
times is the lesson is the blessing. And instead of
learning to pass through the storm, is learning to sit
on it and dance in the middle of your worst moments?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What is your superpower?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think, more than anything else, has been able to
have the courage to face myself yep, you know, and
that has unleashed a whole different part of my life
that has allowed me to be here talking to you
and you know, continue to share the continuous lessons I'm
learning with an audience, which is such a blessing.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
As an interviewer and someone who connects with other people.
Have you unveiled any stories that left you stunned by
their truth?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So many? I mean, I think every time I speak
to a guess and and even myself, right, every time
that like that sparks a conversation that I hadn't looked
at myself in a certain area, Like I speak a
lot about this in the podcast where you know, I've
had to go back and face the little legs and
(10:17):
tell little lex, hey, it's okay. Because there were things
that I just didn't understand why I was going through them,
or why I would feel like that, why I would
react like that. And through the conversations with my guests,
you know, things have come up where I've been like,
oh wow, I didn't actually look at that before, and
you know, let me a deeper look into that. And
and also with every guest, I think we've uh, you know,
(10:40):
revealed and and and saw areas of their lives that
I wasn't expecting to. I think most of the time,
I'm very surprised how open our guests have been on
the pod.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
When do you realize that you have You've stepped through
that door? Are there words?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Are there little things that they say where you go, okay,
I'm in their heart, this is this. Now we have
to walk a careful line here.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah. I mean, I think anytime that they are speaking
about a fear, you know that you're in that line
where you now have to slowly pull out because there's
goal there, not only for the audience, but it's a
therapy for them as well. I tell my team, you know,
(11:24):
when I am in the room in the conversation, my
only goal is to allow that person to feel safe
and to leave an impact on that person. And after
we're done shooting one person after that that gets touched
by our podcast, we've done our job. The rest is
my control. So I really focus on nurturing those moments
(11:46):
in the conversations to allow my guests to feel like
they are in a place where they can go deeper
into things that maybe they weren't. They don't have those
conversations with anybody else, especially not in a public for.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Them, because you are so giving and you're a brilliant listener.
After each interview or conversation, do you ever go into
post production blues? And if you do, how do you recover?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't watch my conversations after, if I'm honest, And
the reason for it is because the person that will
be editing becomes the critiquer, right becomes I don't like
how I heard that, or hey I was I don't
know if I want to reveal that about myself, or
I cried on my own podcast, and I don't want to,
(12:36):
and I didn't want that I wanted the truest, honest
part of that. And as a matter of fact, my
team UH for different people touch the edits to the
edits of the episodes in order to keep it very honest.
In order to also protect our guests if we feel
like something, you know, went out of order that they
that we think they should get a second look at.
(12:57):
But for the most part, I don't actually view until
it comes out. I'm watching it at the same time
as the audience is in order to protect the integrity
of the pod.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
One thing that fascinates me about you is that you
collect watches. Is that a fear of losing time?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, it's the It's actually the complete opposite of it.
It's the acceptance of something that I genuinely love that
for many years I kept hitting out of fear of
being critiqued because of oh, you're spending money on watch this,
and so he has become a part of my healing
(13:37):
has been to accept these areas of my life that
were hobbies that were general passions of mine and be
able to build community in those in those circles without
the pressure that I was feeling before. Because in our
entertainment industry, most of these things are lived upon as
negatives or reasons for people to critique you on how
you spend your money and this and that. So it's
(14:00):
that I think time for me, it's irrelevant. I think
the idea of future is again another story we've told ourselves.
All you really have is now, and that's how you
realize you don't actually control anything, and it tells you
that everything's in divine order because for you and I
to be sitting here having this conversation, a million things
have to happen perfectly, which tells me I have zero control.
(14:22):
All I have is while I have you here, while
I have these couple of minutes with you. I just
want to be a blessing to your life. I want
to share time and space with you, and I want
you and me to have an amazing conversation and be
able to live the best moment because we don't know
if this will be our last.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But you know what, though, there's a lot of people
that don't understand that you and I we understand and
we trust and we have faith in this thing called now.
Being present in your now.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, that's everything, you know. Sometimes we're not even living
the experience because we're thinking of what the experience is
meant to make us feel, and this is supposed to
be this instead of this is just what it is.
And I think one of the best gifts and best
advice I ever got to say yes to it all.
I mean a set it all for what it is,
(15:11):
not for what you want it to be or what
it's supposed to be. It is what it is and
it's happening in the way it is because it is
what it is. And so if you're able to take
that in, whether that's you know, something beautiful, whether it's
a hard time like a breakup or losing your job,
it is what it is. And the remorse comes from
the what if, instead of the enjoyment of the pure
(15:33):
moment of I have now and right now, I'm okay,
I have all I can you know, see, I can speak,
I can hear, I can walk, or even if you
didn't have that, whatever, that opportunity of that moment is
for you, you get to have it and it's your
personal experience. No one else is having that, no one
else is living that reality. And that's beautiful to think
(15:54):
that in a world where everything seems so shared, where
everything is something that someone else has has access to
to have something that is just yours. And that's the
beautiful part of this is that your life experience in
this moment is just yours.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
The podcast we're talking about is you versus You. You
introduce us to some really amazing people, and to hear
their stories brings us even closer to your storyline, like
Sarah for instance. I mean, the fashion world is such
an invisible world. Those who create fashion, we don't get
to see them. We get to see what they create,
but we don't get to see them or get to
know them until we tune into a podcast like yours.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah. I think the craziest thing is that if you
think about everything that you have right now, right so,
wherever you are right now, in the studio that you're in,
you're sitting in someone's mind. Yeah. Someone's manifestation of their mind,
of their creativity, of their emotion, of their expression is
(16:55):
the building that you're sitting in someone. And that's the thing.
We're speaking on a computer, on a mind that was
someone's manifestation of an internal idea. And that's such a
beautiful thing. You're literally sitting in someone's mind. You're literally
speaking into someone's mind.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's interesting you say that, because because I'm a daily writer,
people go, well, why do you write all the time.
It's not for me, it's dear future reader. And that's
so that's what I'm writing too, because I didn't have
any of my grandparents writing. I didn't have anything before me,
So therefore I'm trying to leave things for someone else
and their mind as you speak of.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, I think that's important, right, And I think there's
this idea too that we all have a savior complex
at some point. But the truth is someone told me
that that. I was amazing, said, no, one actually needs saving.
What they need is just the realest version of yourself
because that's the only thing they actually want. And I
(17:51):
think that's the beautiful part about writing and creating, is
that you are putting on paper something that is your
your thought, you're true version of yourself today and what
it does to someone after that is the part that
it's beautiful to release, right, because it's the part that
allows you to truly let the universe, God, the creator,
(18:11):
whatever each person believes in to do what they do best,
which is to be in divine and perfect order and
have that manifest and That's the beautiful thing about these conversations.
You never truly know where they're going to reach. And
I've been so surprised for the first time in my
life is that I've gotten people from all over the
world who have you know, listened to a piece or
(18:33):
gotten a clip or listen to the whole episode, and
it manifested in their lives, you know, a change. And
that's just a beautiful, beautiful thing about creating and putting
something down on paper or on audio and letting it go.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
When a person of fame hits that level of success,
doesn't it also become the fear of how long is
this going to last?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think that's one thing you'll
hear across every conversation we've had with them, is that
the fear of win, is it enough? Right? And the
fear of can I stay consistent in a business that
is inconsistent because the truth is, opinion has changed, time changes,
Like in order for you to be successful in the
(19:18):
entertainment industry, so many things have to be aligned perfectly,
like you have to be in the right era. Like
you know, when we talk about a bad bunny for example,
like bad bunny, maybe twenty years ago wouldn't have been
able to be the star he is today just because
the environment wasn't there. Streaming wasn't there, the googleization of
music wasn't there, and so a lot of things have
(19:39):
to be in the right place. And it's the reason
why most really famous, successful people have a hard time
dealing with it is because there's so much pressure for
what's next. And most of the people I've worked with,
and even myself included, you tend to do something and
then move on to the next thing already because you're
(20:01):
anxious that if you don't keep working, is not going
to be there for you tomorrow. And again, that's just
a story we tell ourselves, and there's a story. That's
how we've been programmed. And that's what we're trying to
change with these conversations, or at least bring light to,
is that none of that is true, you know, like
everything is just a story, and whatever life has for
you is what it has for you, and that's a blessing,
(20:23):
it's a gift. Enjoy for the moment that it is,
Enjoy what it could be for you after, and that
will allow you to enjoy the process that now a
lot more than having to think so much about the
future and you're seeing it. And now, for example, in Hollywood,
so many stars are becoming megastars in their fifties, you know,
like Pasqual like late in his career, he's having a breakthrough.
(20:46):
And it just shows you what's been for you is
meant for you. I travel every year with my father
and one of the things that we talk about for
the past five years that we've been doing a father
in centric is that life. I've waited until he was
sixty five to give him a first class lifestyle, and
it's a beautiful thing. You know, It's like it's never
(21:06):
too late. I spent thirty years of my thirty five
years old, essentially of my life without my father, without
spending time with him. And now I've had the joy
of the past five summer spending a long time just
traveling together around motorsports and you know, the inner kidd
and me and I think his inner father looking back,
I said, oh my God, never would have thoubt that
(21:27):
this moment could happened, but it happens. I waited, you know,
I'm forty now, I've waited thirty eight years of my
life to have a picture of my mother and my father,
and it happened the most timely of matters. I went
to Italy with my father to the Ferrari factory, and
it just happened to be the right. At the same time,
(21:47):
my mother had been invited an hour away to speak
at a church in Italy, and it aligned on timing.
And I remember when I had a senior tannery and
I had called my mother to say that I was going,
and she told me the dates and I said, oh
my God. And I called both of them individually because
(22:09):
they hadn't spoken for years. They're like way more than
my life, Like you know, they just they after they
had me. They hadn't spoken essentially, and I said, guys,
I had never asked you for anything. All I want
is a picture with both of my parents. And not
only did they rekindle their relationship and are now great friends,
(22:29):
but I was able to have my picture with my
mom and my father at thirty eight years old.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Wow. Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Alex. Thank you so much for having me and saying,
you know, I'd love to have you on your versus youth.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Will you be brilliant today.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay sir, thank you, Take care,
It's almost like one stop shopping, except you can get
all the podcasts in one place for free. There's no
shopping involved. Arrow dot net a R r Oe dot Net.
Hey wanna thank you for being a part of the conversation.
Let's do some pod crashing. Episode number four oh five
is with Lex Barrero from the podcast You Versus You. Lex?
(00:21):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm very well, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm excited to share conversation with you because your podcast
is everything that I have been studying my entire life.
You versus You? Oh my god. I've been a daily
writer for thirty two years and you really dive into
this in ways where even I am learning things.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to talk about this.
This is my passion project and I really consider it
to be in my life mission.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Is it because you went through a few storms in
your life and you thought, Wow, if this is working
for me, what are others using?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I think it's because I'm continuously going through storms, so
I think it's It's the reason for this podcast is
that this process is a daily process in all of us,
and it's reprogramming our mind and most importantly, having the
courage to face ourselves in the mirror and look inside.
And that's a continuous effort on a daily, on a
(01:17):
minute by minute moment. And I'm enjoying my journey and
I'm enjoying sharing that because I'm seeing the transformation is
making on myself and my family, on the people around me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
When when we talk about you versus you, there's a
couple of things that that you know, I see as triggers.
And one of them is is that when I get
when I look in the bathroom mirror and I say,
how are you doing today? Wait a second, Why am
I asking myself that question? I am me being me?
And the other thing that I deal with is that
the candy coded plastic bathroom mirror smile. Don't fake your
smile in the mirror. What do you deal with?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I've been saying. I think it's what I deal with is,
you know, learning to perceive the information that's happening. So
when I wake up in my day and I see
a text message and I might get triggered, and I
might get stressed on stopping in that moment and being
able to really process, why is that taking me out
of my piece? Right? It's just pe of information. I'm
(02:13):
filtering it through my trauma, through my own lessons, through
my belief systems, to my fear, and I'm learning to
reprogram that part. But I'm also learning to understand that
the biggest superhero exists is yourself. You are everything you
could be internally, and if you can accept yourself, if
(02:34):
you can love every part of who you are and
genuinely talk to yourself, I think the beautiful thing about
the mind is that it doesn't know the difference between
truth or false, right. It only knows what you tell it.
So the question is what kind of conversation are you
having with yourself? Because you're a lot more kind to
other people. You might tell someone walking on the street day,
I like your hat, you look good, But when you
(02:55):
look at yourself in the mirror, you're like, I look chunky.
I should go to the GIT often. And it's like,
well that's what your mind thinks. Your mind starts processing
the information as like, okay, he wants to look chunky,
And I say, the energy of life is very simple,
It says, arrow you, I can show you whatever you
want to see, just show me how it feels. And
(03:17):
so the question is what are you showing your mind
that it should feel Should it feel fear? Should it
feel love? Should it you know one of the things
you're saying to yourself, and how you're protecting the words
that you're telling yourself, and so on the podcast, I
ask every single guest at the end, what is one
word or one phrase you can tell yourself that you
know your mind, body, and soul needs to hear right now.
(03:38):
And I'm really surprised because there's the moment on the
show where most of our guests are pause, they're frozen.
And I've even had a guess after an hour conversation
about the power of words say even though I don't
believe it, I'm secure, and he called himself, oh my God,
Like that's how I'm speaking to myself. So the words
(04:01):
we tell ourselves are is everything. Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I totally agree with you with that. And the reason
why I mean, he's sitting in this podcast studio doing
six to ten interviews per day. There are many times
I'm under so much stress, but then from out of nowhere,
I'll go I love you, and I'll go I love
you back, and man, if that doesn't change the entire course, lex.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It transforms your mind, hears and it will reflect in
your whole body. And even stress right stress is a story.
It is this idea that if we don't handle this
right now, or if we don't do it this way,
that you know, something will fail or we won't grow.
And like I tell my own team and my business
(04:44):
is I say, hey, everything is a gift. Yep. There's
people that less talented than you that have more successive,
people more talented than you that have lex success. Everything
is a gift. What we've been gifted is the opportunity
to be good shepherds of that gift. And that's where
the discipline and the hard work and the focus comes
into play. But the truth is a gift. You can
you can slow down your day, as I'm finding out,
(05:06):
a slow down my life and face this fear that
if I didn't hustle every single day, I was gonna
make less. And what I find is that my mind
can actually clear itself. I can think clearly, and the
new opportunities come up that you know, have been more
fruitful than if I would have been stressing myself the
whole day.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The podcast we're talking about is you versus you. It
doesn't matter who you are, how famous you are, there's
always a human being on the inside. And I'm gonna
give you a good example of how I've been studying this.
For the past two to three years. The press has
been bashing Justin Bieber. Never once did we ever think
that he was creatively inside that studio, And now that
Swag has been released, it is the greatest collection of
(05:45):
music I have ever heard from this kid.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I think this idea of how we look at people
and we judge them is we don't understand. We're all
just humans trying to figure it out. Yep. It doesn't
matter who you are, if you're the successful artist, entrepreneur,
if you're the guy you know, cleaning the bathrooms or
picking up the garbage. We're just humans trying to figure
(06:12):
it out. And what artists have is they have the
courage to put these feelings and emotions in music to
express themselves, and we connect with it because we don't
know how to put it intowards and that's great artistry.
And so when you see someone like Beaver go through
everything he's gone through and you know, have to face
himself and have to deal with the fame and the
(06:34):
stories and the news plus whatever else he's dealing with
by himself, and then have the courage to still go
in the studio and put it into music to express it.
That's why I think artists are so special because they
have the courage to be themselves even in the midst
of the worst situations where most of us would hide,
(06:55):
where most of us would would try to become somebody
something else, they have the courage to just face everybody,
all the criticisms and say, here you go, these are
the deepest thoughts and feelings of my heart and doing
this so that you can be inspired, and that that's courageous,
that deserves On the plot.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Please do not move. There's more with Lex Berrero coming
up next. The name of the podcast is You Versus You.
We're back with Lex Berrero. Listeners need to understand that
your your purpose of this of this podcast, You versus You,
is the fact that you're doing it for the listener
because you're using the stories of other people to give
them an open door to say, oh, I can relate
(07:33):
with what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Correct, I think is the understanding and this showing to
the guests that we've invited both you know, from highly
successful people or spiritual or very accomplished doctors and professionals,
and the health estimate is to show that we're all
going through this and sometimes we think that we are
(07:56):
less than sometimes, you know, we unfortunately live in a
world world where we are faced with these stories and
scrolling the pages of what everybody else has, and we
start feeling this idea that we are missing something and
that that's why we're not good enough. That's why my
life is not happy is because I don't have those things,
because I'm not dating that person, or I don't have
that car. My career is not going the way I want.
(08:18):
And that is done in a way to program you
so that we can sell you things. Right. That's if
you look at Instagram, they'll tell you. You know you're
tired of being fat, Well, here's the solution. But the
reality is everything you need to be okay is inside
of you. And that's what we're trying to show in
these conversations, which is the biggest most accomplished people are
(08:40):
dealing with this. But the things that they have done right,
the things that they've been able to master, is the
understanding of their superpower. That are understanding that looking inside
and truly loving and appreciating yourself. Even if that's you know,
your superpower in one area is still enough to get
you through the storm. And also that's understanding, which is
(09:04):
we are so scared and we've been taught to run
from hard times. But the truth is in the hard
times is the lesson is the blessing. And instead of
learning to pass through the storm, is learning to sit
on it and dance in the middle of your worst moments?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What is your superpower?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think, more than anything else, has been able to
have the courage to face myself yep, you know, and
that has unleashed a whole different part of my life
that has allowed me to be here talking to you
and you know, continue to share the continuous lessons I'm
learning with an audience, which is such a blessing.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
As an interviewer and someone who connects with other people.
Have you unveiled any stories that left you stunned by
their truth?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So many? I mean, I think every time I speak
to a guess and and even myself, right, every time
that like that sparks a conversation that I hadn't looked
at myself in a certain area, Like I speak a
lot about this in the podcast where you know, I've
had to go back and face the little legs and
(10:17):
tell little lex, hey, it's okay. Because there were things
that I just didn't understand why I was going through them,
or why I would feel like that, why I would
react like that. And through the conversations with my guests,
you know, things have come up where I've been like,
oh wow, I didn't actually look at that before, and
you know, let me a deeper look into that. And
and also with every guest, I think we've uh, you know,
(10:40):
revealed and and and saw areas of their lives that
I wasn't expecting to. I think most of the time,
I'm very surprised how open our guests have been on
the pod.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
When do you realize that you have You've stepped through
that door? Are there words?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Are there little things that they say where you go, okay,
I'm in their heart, this is this. Now we have
to walk a careful line here.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah. I mean, I think anytime that they are speaking
about a fear, you know that you're in that line
where you now have to slowly pull out because there's
goal there, not only for the audience, but it's a
therapy for them as well. I tell my team, you know,
(11:24):
when I am in the room in the conversation, my
only goal is to allow that person to feel safe
and to leave an impact on that person. And after
we're done shooting one person after that that gets touched
by our podcast, we've done our job. The rest is
my control. So I really focus on nurturing those moments
(11:46):
in the conversations to allow my guests to feel like
they are in a place where they can go deeper
into things that maybe they weren't. They don't have those
conversations with anybody else, especially not in a public for.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Them, because you are so giving and you're a brilliant listener.
After each interview or conversation, do you ever go into
post production blues? And if you do, how do you recover?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't watch my conversations after, if I'm honest, And
the reason for it is because the person that will
be editing becomes the critiquer, right becomes I don't like
how I heard that, or hey I was I don't
know if I want to reveal that about myself, or
I cried on my own podcast, and I don't want to,
(12:36):
and I didn't want that I wanted the truest, honest
part of that. And as a matter of fact, my
team UH for different people touch the edits to the
edits of the episodes in order to keep it very honest.
In order to also protect our guests if we feel
like something, you know, went out of order that they
that we think they should get a second look at.
(12:57):
But for the most part, I don't actually view until
it comes out. I'm watching it at the same time
as the audience is in order to protect the integrity
of the pod.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
One thing that fascinates me about you is that you
collect watches. Is that a fear of losing time?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, it's the It's actually the complete opposite of it.
It's the acceptance of something that I genuinely love that
for many years I kept hitting out of fear of
being critiqued because of oh, you're spending money on watch this,
and so he has become a part of my healing
(13:37):
has been to accept these areas of my life that
were hobbies that were general passions of mine and be
able to build community in those in those circles without
the pressure that I was feeling before. Because in our
entertainment industry, most of these things are lived upon as
negatives or reasons for people to critique you on how
you spend your money and this and that. So it's
(14:00):
that I think time for me, it's irrelevant. I think
the idea of future is again another story we've told ourselves.
All you really have is now, and that's how you
realize you don't actually control anything, and it tells you
that everything's in divine order because for you and I
to be sitting here having this conversation, a million things
have to happen perfectly, which tells me I have zero control.
(14:22):
All I have is while I have you here, while
I have these couple of minutes with you. I just
want to be a blessing to your life. I want
to share time and space with you, and I want
you and me to have an amazing conversation and be
able to live the best moment because we don't know
if this will be our last.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But you know what, though, there's a lot of people
that don't understand that you and I we understand and
we trust and we have faith in this thing called now.
Being present in your now.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, that's everything, you know. Sometimes we're not even living
the experience because we're thinking of what the experience is
meant to make us feel, and this is supposed to
be this instead of this is just what it is.
And I think one of the best gifts and best
advice I ever got to say yes to it all.
I mean a set it all for what it is,
(15:11):
not for what you want it to be or what
it's supposed to be. It is what it is and
it's happening in the way it is because it is
what it is. And so if you're able to take
that in, whether that's you know, something beautiful, whether it's
a hard time like a breakup or losing your job,
it is what it is. And the remorse comes from
the what if, instead of the enjoyment of the pure
(15:33):
moment of I have now and right now, I'm okay,
I have all I can you know, see, I can speak,
I can hear, I can walk, or even if you
didn't have that, whatever, that opportunity of that moment is
for you, you get to have it and it's your
personal experience. No one else is having that, no one
else is living that reality. And that's beautiful to think
(15:54):
that in a world where everything seems so shared, where
everything is something that someone else has has access to
to have something that is just yours. And that's the
beautiful part of this is that your life experience in
this moment is just yours.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
The podcast we're talking about is you versus You. You
introduce us to some really amazing people, and to hear
their stories brings us even closer to your storyline, like
Sarah for instance. I mean, the fashion world is such
an invisible world. Those who create fashion, we don't get
to see them. We get to see what they create,
but we don't get to see them or get to
know them until we tune into a podcast like yours.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah. I think the craziest thing is that if you
think about everything that you have right now, right so,
wherever you are right now, in the studio that you're in,
you're sitting in someone's mind. Yeah. Someone's manifestation of their mind,
of their creativity, of their emotion, of their expression is
(16:55):
the building that you're sitting in someone. And that's the thing.
We're speaking on a computer, on a mind that was
someone's manifestation of an internal idea. And that's such a
beautiful thing. You're literally sitting in someone's mind. You're literally
speaking into someone's mind.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's interesting you say that, because because I'm a daily writer,
people go, well, why do you write all the time.
It's not for me, it's dear future reader. And that's
so that's what I'm writing too, because I didn't have
any of my grandparents writing. I didn't have anything before me,
So therefore I'm trying to leave things for someone else
and their mind as you speak of.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, I think that's important, right, And I think there's
this idea too that we all have a savior complex
at some point. But the truth is someone told me
that that. I was amazing, said, no, one actually needs saving.
What they need is just the realest version of yourself
because that's the only thing they actually want. And I
(17:51):
think that's the beautiful part about writing and creating, is
that you are putting on paper something that is your
your thought, you're true version of yourself today and what
it does to someone after that is the part that
it's beautiful to release, right, because it's the part that
allows you to truly let the universe, God, the creator,
(18:11):
whatever each person believes in to do what they do best,
which is to be in divine and perfect order and
have that manifest and That's the beautiful thing about these conversations.
You never truly know where they're going to reach. And
I've been so surprised for the first time in my
life is that I've gotten people from all over the
world who have you know, listened to a piece or
(18:33):
gotten a clip or listen to the whole episode, and
it manifested in their lives, you know, a change. And
that's just a beautiful, beautiful thing about creating and putting
something down on paper or on audio and letting it go.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
When a person of fame hits that level of success,
doesn't it also become the fear of how long is
this going to last?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think that's one thing you'll
hear across every conversation we've had with them, is that
the fear of win, is it enough? Right? And the
fear of can I stay consistent in a business that
is inconsistent because the truth is, opinion has changed, time changes,
Like in order for you to be successful in the
(19:18):
entertainment industry, so many things have to be aligned perfectly,
like you have to be in the right era. Like
you know, when we talk about a bad bunny for example,
like bad bunny, maybe twenty years ago wouldn't have been
able to be the star he is today just because
the environment wasn't there. Streaming wasn't there, the googleization of
music wasn't there, and so a lot of things have
(19:39):
to be in the right place. And it's the reason
why most really famous, successful people have a hard time
dealing with it is because there's so much pressure for
what's next. And most of the people I've worked with,
and even myself included, you tend to do something and
then move on to the next thing already because you're
(20:01):
anxious that if you don't keep working, is not going
to be there for you tomorrow. And again, that's just
a story we tell ourselves, and there's a story. That's
how we've been programmed. And that's what we're trying to
change with these conversations, or at least bring light to,
is that none of that is true, you know, like
everything is just a story, and whatever life has for
you is what it has for you, and that's a blessing,
(20:23):
it's a gift. Enjoy for the moment that it is,
Enjoy what it could be for you after, and that
will allow you to enjoy the process that now a
lot more than having to think so much about the
future and you're seeing it. And now, for example, in Hollywood,
so many stars are becoming megastars in their fifties, you know,
like Pasqual like late in his career, he's having a breakthrough.
(20:46):
And it just shows you what's been for you is
meant for you. I travel every year with my father
and one of the things that we talk about for
the past five years that we've been doing a father
in centric is that life. I've waited until he was
sixty five to give him a first class lifestyle, and
it's a beautiful thing. You know, It's like it's never
(21:06):
too late. I spent thirty years of my thirty five
years old, essentially of my life without my father, without
spending time with him. And now I've had the joy
of the past five summer spending a long time just
traveling together around motorsports and you know, the inner kidd
and me and I think his inner father looking back,
I said, oh my God, never would have thoubt that
(21:27):
this moment could happened, but it happens. I waited, you know,
I'm forty now, I've waited thirty eight years of my
life to have a picture of my mother and my father,
and it happened the most timely of matters. I went
to Italy with my father to the Ferrari factory, and
it just happened to be the right. At the same time,
(21:47):
my mother had been invited an hour away to speak
at a church in Italy, and it aligned on timing.
And I remember when I had a senior tannery and
I had called my mother to say that I was going,
and she told me the dates and I said, oh
my God. And I called both of them individually because
(22:09):
they hadn't spoken for years. They're like way more than
my life, Like you know, they just they after they
had me. They hadn't spoken essentially, and I said, guys,
I had never asked you for anything. All I want
is a picture with both of my parents. And not
only did they rekindle their relationship and are now great friends,
(22:29):
but I was able to have my picture with my
mom and my father at thirty eight years old.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Wow. Please come back to the show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Alex. Thank you so much for having me and saying,
you know, I'd love to have you on your versus youth.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Will you be brilliant today.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay sir, thank you, Take care,
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