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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How are you, man, Absolutely fantastic. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're great. What's the word.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The word is, it's sons of Silver.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Pass it on. I love that right on.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I mean that's going to get you everything you need
in life right now, because when you crank this stuff up.
In fact, I gotta be honest with you, when you
really do crank this up, Like when I do things
around the house or when I'm driving in the car,
that's where I like to listen to music. I like
to have a busy mind. And then when I listen
into your music, it's like it takes me into an
area where it's like I don't have to worry about
anything that's in the news or the weather forecast. I
got my band on and this is all I need.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Dude. I love hearing that.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I actually I did the same thing when I'm like
doing dishes, vacuum me at home, I got the headphones
on and whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
My latest flavor is that that's what's rolling. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How do you tap into that energy? Because the two
of you are just mind blowing in the way of
there's something about your sound that says it's okay, it's okay,
we're gonna take care of you because when you listen
to Ghosts, I mean this right here, this is an
unbelievable piece of music.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thank you, thanks so much. Well, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
We're really tedious with what we do, or meticulous, I
should say, and it can be tedious work, but we're
you know, we're our focus is we're guitar band and
a two guitar band. So we really spent a lot
of time arranging what each other is playing, and and
you know, and and to really so that's not just
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a bunch of sloppy stuff or a bunch of just
strumming going on. We're playing our own unique parts, the
feet that work together. We've went in and out.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's talk about those two guitars, guys, because I mean,
I've heard so many different stories about that, because we
know that the Eagles played with the double guitars, with
the dual guitars, and then you read stories about Ace
Freely who couldn't do it because he had the toughest
time inside the studio. How did you, guys, master that
in the way of bringing up those dual guitars.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think it's just a lot of years of doing
it within this band and before this band, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, we're patient with it, do we And we're patient
with each other, and we're always sitting together doing it.
It's always done together. So we'll just trade ideas back
and forth. And usually we'll focus on one part, uh,
having an idea what the other is going to do,
and and we slowly chip away at refining that one part.
So we may we may go over four, five, six,
seven editions of a particular part until we get it
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just right.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Also, I think one of my main goals is the
guitar is well all the music in general has its
own melody.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So now is that when you sit down with Tim
Palmer and you sit there and you go, okay, so
here's our idea, let's hear your input, and then you
have to collaborate.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, actually, we do it all alone and Tim Jim
Mitch is it's just in this frankly, in the studio,
it's just us as a band and Brina our keyboards
is recording.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So so when we're when.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We're tracking, uh, it's you know the full band, uh,
you know, Mark on drums, Adam on bass, and then
Kevin and I on guitars, Kevin on lead, and then
Brina recorded, and then when it comes to overdubbs's primarily Brina,
Kevin and I and the three of us just circled
round and around on refining our parts and then we
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you know, pass off everything to Tim who mixes, and
along the way when he's mixing, he'll you know, add
some inncilliary parts. He may make a suggestion, you know,
for a vocal or a guitar part that we could
twist up. At ninety nine percent of it's just really
it's Kevin and brinon and I.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I got to tell you something. I was listening to
our classic rock station earlier today and they're starting to
play a lot of the new rock and it's like,
I know what they're doing. They're trying to latch onto
that new age crowd as well as keeping the old
crowd as well. I mean, you guys releasing this is
coming at the perfect time because classic rock has to
do something right now.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's well because it's not that.
I think part of the problem is that the term
classic rock makes it seem old. But there are so
many bands who are just taking what was done and
taking it to another level, which which has always been
the case for any genre that you know, there's there's
a lot of room for that. We just got to
step out of that umbrella of the classic rock name.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
One of the things that you guys have mastered with
live music is the fact that you guys really like
to have that interaction with that live crowd. And you know,
I come from the spoiled generation of Kiss Alive too,
right into Frampton Comes Alive. So when someone says they've
got a live album, I'm going to, oh, boy, okay,
let's see what they're doing. And boy, I was blown
away by this.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Dude, Oh dude, awesome, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, well, you know, you know, we're really proud of
it because basically what you heard on the recordings is
what we sound like live.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There was there wasn't any editing.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You know, we go and clean up for ancilliary noises,
but that's about it.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, it's actually live, Yeah, because I mean, I mean
they're for the longest time, especially in the latter part
of the nineteen nineties. Look, here's the thing. We were
sneaking in the equipment and stealing that sound. At least
you're now giving us the experience so that when we
go to the concert, we experience it. Get in the car.
We got this.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, absolutely, you know it's and one of you know
I also add this. One of the goals for our
next tour is we want to have a lot of
what we call bootleg recordings up within twenty within twenty
four hours of the show. I mean, we'll record it,
you know, Kevin or adamals will sit on their laptop
while we're on the bus, do some rough mixes and boom.
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So if you go to a show, you can wake
up the next morning and grab it from our bootleg star.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Please do not move. There's more with Sons of Silver
coming up next the name of the collection of music,
seven Cities, seven Songs. We are back with Sons of
Silver without upsetting the dudes of Leonard Scanner or even Tom Perry.
I mean, it just feels like that your generation of
sound is working harder than anybody else that before we
even got to this point, because you guys, I mean,
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it's about the Internet, it's about social media, it's about
writing the songs, it's about being live. I mean, you've
got a whole entire laundry list of things that you
need to check in with.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Dude. Yeah, that is so true.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I mean, as soon as we got off the phone here,
we're going to get back to you know, working on
some new new songs.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But then we're going to take a few moments and
do some social media clips.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We got to send out some merch where we're Yeah,
we're very busy twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm up at four in the morning every morning working.
So wow.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So when you do a song like read them their rights,
that right there is enough just saying the title, all
of a sudden, people get all riled up. They're ready
to rock when they hear a song like this one.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Indeed, and they should be, because it's about rocking out
with not just in the music itself, but also in
the spirit of pushing back.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
A little bit. So to say, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's but to me, who was it? There was somebody
earlier this week in a conversation where they go, look,
here's the thing the oh, I know what it was.
I was putting focus on are we are we going
to be censored as broadcasters? And everything that I read
was no, you're not. And the reason why is because
music is stepping up. That's where you're going to start
hearing it is through the music, and then it'll it'll,
you know, work its way through.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That's always been the case. You know, it ebbs and flows.
But that's that's nice to hear, for sure. I mean
not that we necessarily want to be the ones to
lead the way, but it's nice when we can be
part of it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now, do you guys ever turn into perfectionists though, when
you're sitting inside that studio and you're doing it yourself,
because man, I would be sitting there going do it again,
do it again, do it again?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, never, no.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Never do that. I'll say this, we've gotten We've gotten
pretty good at at we're wise to when we're getting
sucked into that vortex, which is you know, the tedium,
you know of it, all the militia, and we know
better that when that starts happening, we step away for
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a moment, come back, and ninety nine percent of the
time will be thinking to ourselves, oh, well, we had
it already.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Exactly, so usually perfect is not actually perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, That's what I've always believed. The reason why the
Rolling Stones and the Beatles are still around today is
because when they went in that studio wasn't to sit
there and say do it again, do it again. It
was about getting done.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Jimmy Page, come on, yeah, absolutely, it's about capturing a moment.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That moment doesn't have to be perfect.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
In fact, what really is perfect is the spirit of
the moment exactly now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Is that the reason why I'm so in love with
your guitar solos on this because I know it's a
live one, And that's one of the things that people
always said about Tom Petty, You got to catch him live,
you got to get the real live guitar solos. And
I picked up on this on your collection of music.
It's like, damn it, that's exactly what I need to
hear those guitars.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's awesome, man, thank you so much. I mean you've
mentioned Tom Petty a couple of times. I am a
massive Mike Campbell fan.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Just you know, my goal usually is not to get
the chops out there, but to have a melody apart
a piece of music that's fun to listen to. And
I think Mike Campbell definitely led me down that road.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Have you sat down and talked with him, because my god,
the moment the times that we had together. Is it's
like I'm tapping into an imagination that I don't know
why he's sharing stuff with me, but God bless you dude.
I mean, it's because he's so willing to share right now.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I would love to have that experience.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I did meet him briefly.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
We had a mutual friend, but I didn't get to
get into any of that, but I would absolutely love to.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What was it like to be in the studio or
even on that stage when you do a song like
hold Tight, Because there's a lot of anticipation in the song.
I could feel it, but then when you said it free, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Like, yes, yes, that one's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's probably one of my favorite songs in the set,
arguably my favorite because of the anticipation.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yep, yeah, well, I mean, and the thing is it
to me once again, it's having that interaction with that
live audience. I mean, you guys are sitting there staring
at all of those eyes and it's like, Okay, what
do you want to do with them this time? Because
let's take them for a ride.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
They're ready, right, very true, and inevitably, you know, people
latch onto that moment and they ride it with us
in the sense of the patient. They're not pushing us
to get to the chorus, so to speak fast, or
get to the climax of the song.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
They're they're really willing and ready.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
They're wanting to participate in that that slow crescendo.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think I read somewhere that you guys will take
care of my my speeding ticket when I when I
tap into the song, tell me this, because that's the
perfect highway song and I'm not driving the damn speed line.
And I'm gonna tell you that right now. I'm not
gonna do it, not with this song playing on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Absolutely, we'll take care of that for you. Just send it,
send it, Send it to our record label.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I mean, because I mean what the members of ZZ
tops out there and told me, they go, they go,
we have to go out and listen to the purr
of the car to make sure that our that our
songs are going to that rhythm when you when you
rev up that engine to that car. I want to
make sure our music is doing the same thing. This
is one of those songs that I feel like, did
you guys go out and listen to that engine?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, but that's a great idea, that's about.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It gives me the idea that we should find a
certain uh, you know, find you know, a great classic car,
maybe a Corvette or something like that. Yeah, you can
go to American Car and uh and we'll we'll, you know, we'll.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Rev it up to like, you know, seven eight thousand
r p m.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
We'll find whatever pitch that is that is and we'll
we'll we'll tune our guitars.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We'll just do the song in that key.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know, are you gonna Are you gonna step on
my face or my foot? If I tell you that
I really like the Springsteen touch to running out of
words because I there's something there I'm telling you and
and it's no.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Oh my god, do you feed the Are you getting
spring Springsteen's one of my Desert Island artists?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh my god? Yeah. My dad used to take me
to see him when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So so let me ask you a question that I mean,
with all the music, because I mean, you go in
there and you look at the lyrics and stuff, do
you call yourself a blue collar rock banding? Because I mean,
it seems like you're you're talking about subjects that we
as regular people can relate with and tap into.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I haven't worn a collared shirt in a really long time.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Same same here. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think we're just we're you know what, We're not
thinking too hard when we write. It's just very stream
of conscience and very much what is in the spirit
of the moment as far as what our conversations are,
whatever we're going through in life. And I would say
as a band, there's a lot of overlap among us.
It's not we're not just a band of people who
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come together and make music and leave. We have a
lot of camaraderie, so that makes its way into the lyrics,
and it's very you know, much of the people who
were around, which seems to be a large group that
we identify with that we.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Write together as a group and whatever moves us, we
keep working on. If it doesn't, we move on, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So the album cover itself, are you going to stamp
that onto a T shirt? Makes some key change and
stuff for merchandise, because I mean that right there really
really is a vibration. It really it's setting me up,
is what it's doing. It's like, okay, now you see
what I look like on the outside, come listen to
my inside.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I love hearing that because it was actually a bit
of a struggle to choose what the.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Cover is well.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And Brina is our art director, so to speak, you know,
she she comes up with the concept and then she
takes it to our our graphic artist, a guy named
Alex Tenta, who's done everyone from Green Bay to Metallica,
so on and so forth, and he takes good care
of us.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But it was her concept and she actually had to
fight for it.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I in particular, was thinking a different direction. And now
that we went her out with, We've gone a lot
of praise. I'm really happy with it. And to answer
your question about T shirts and likes, Yes, they're coming
I think the week after next.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, because I'm seeing a lot of that, especially here
in the Carolinas. I go, so, where where's this band
from that you guys are promoting on your T shirt?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I got it off the web. I mean I think
they're from the Pacific Northwest. I'm going, WHOA, So, I mean,
that's how far it's reaching out and people will fight.
I think what it is that they're finding you on
Spotify they're finding you on TikTok, They're finding you all
these places, and then they add your merch to their lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That seems what people do.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That'say, even if it's merch that's on their shelf, you know,
in the form of CDs or vinyl. And yes, I
said CDs because somehow CDs of making a strong comeback, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because my grandkids want they want my CDs.
And I'm going, I don't know, really, Oh, I don't know, man,
I got a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm protective of these little monkeys.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, well, you know you can. You can. You can
train them first of all, or you should make sure
to review, make sure they're handling them properly, right, make
sure they're listening to the right stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And then uh, and then you know, you can you
can incentivize them, say look, you gotta you know, do
X Y z uore And then you get a couple
of CDs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So when you recorded this and and and you don't
have to answer this if you don't want to, but
I've been to several live recordings and and what happens
is there were a few of them that did the
three two one, we're going live, give us a crowd sound.
But you guys, this is authentic, right or or or
how did it play out for you guys?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, it's legit. Those are live recordings. That's cool. Yeah.
We basically we we we have any monitoring rig.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we have our own monitoring rig that we travel
with from show to show, right, and we just take
the tracks from that we go to front of house
and then also.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Split it out to go to a recorder. It gets recorded.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
We record most shows, not every show, because sometimes we're
a little tight on time for set up.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And then we went back in this case and reviewed
and picked the most appropriate songs from different performances. But
what you as we mentioned earlier, what you heard, that's
what we sound like, I would say, you know, to
be straight up. The only thing we cleaned up is
we had to go back and redo Brina's vocals because
she was standing close to the drum kit. She was
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standing close to the drum kit and there was just
too much high hat bleed in her mic. That said,
we did not redo it for the sake of performance.
We just did it for the sake of noise.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But that's it you guys have a spinal tap moment
at all?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Or do we have a spinal tap moment? Yeah? On tour,
sure we did. No, I don't think we did.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Wake it up to a frozen bus.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It's yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
We were in Minneapolis a day after a show there,
and we woke up and our bus was about thirty
degrees inside, you know, in the center section area where
all the bunks are. We were, you know, probably like
sixty degrees. So we went out to the common.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Area up front.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It was, yeah, about thirty degrees and I see the
bus driver with a couple of tools in his hands
and a helmets light and I said, so, it doesn't
look like we're going anywhere. He said no, And we
step outside and it's twelve degrees below below zero. No
needless to say, I'm calling up local hotels immediately and
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get us in there. But yeah, that was that was
pretty spinal top.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
How do you deal with moments like that? Because I'm
a total freak. When I know that I've got a
performance tonight, I got to make sure that I always
tell people I'm six hours early, because three hours early
is too late. I need to be there six hours
so I can have breathing room, get everything set up,
do a sound check, do everything, and God forbid there's
any traffic or something happens to the car.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Agreed. Agreed. We're always way ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And it's it's much easier on the nerves to be
too early than to be too late.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Where can people go to find out more about what
you're doing, because I mean, what's going on with the
tour first of all, because because you guys are not
a regional band, you are stretching across this entire nation.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, well, we're looking to ink in a couple couple
of tours right now.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm hoping we can announce with it in the next
week or two and.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
To get us back out on the road, finish up
a few dates to the end of the year, and
then first quarter of twenty twenty six be out on
the road quite a bit. And then you know people
want to search find us. The best way to do
is the best way to do it is just search
Sons of Silver, and you know it's a unique name
and easy to find from there.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So now, when when you guys talk about making new music,
now is that stuff that's pretty tight where it's like
I'm not going to release it. Yeah, we're going to
hold off. We're gonna we're gonna let Seven Cities, Seven
Songs do its thing and then we'll bring some other
stuff in.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, we sat down in the spring to work up
some new songs for an album and we've we've come
up with around eighteen.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
New songs in fact, in fact more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So we Kevin Breen and I have been touching up
some final parts as far as pre production over the
last few weeks and we go back with the band
next week to start finalizing of doing our final rehearsals,
and then we'll start recording mid November, and the goal
is to come up with an album or two and
to have a single or two out in the first
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quarter of next year.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, that's so awesome. You guys have got to come
back to this show anytime in the future. The door
is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Thank you so much, Erro, It's always great to talk
to you always.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Will you guys be brilliant today.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, you too, man, Thank you brother too.