#176 - A Hitchhiker’s Guide to Truth w/ James Cordiner

James Cordiner is an anarchist, truth seeker & host of A Hitchhiker’s guide to truth podcast.

Check out James website below:
https://www.freeyourmindne.com/

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Ascension of the Chessmen,diving into the esoteric, occult, spiritual,
and conspiratorial aspects of life, focusedon solutions to the problems we face
in our everyday lives. Let usascend up of all differences. Let us
be the light in darkness, abreath of fresh air to those who can

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hardly breathe, and together awaken intogreatness. This is Ascension of the Chessmen,
with your host, Andre Middy.Welcome to the Ascension of the Chessmen
podcast. I'm your host, AndreMiddy, today's guest as an anarchist,

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truth seeker and host of a Hitchhiker'sGuide The Truth Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen,
Hobbinson Fairies, give a warm welcometo James Cordner. Hey, Andrea,
what's going on dude? Everybody outthere, Hello, Hey, so
so good to have your brother.Thanks so much for reaching out and connecting
man. Um, you know,very familiar with the community you come from.

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Um that so many great people throughthe One Great Work Network and um
you're another one. So UM.Pleasure to have you, brother. Pleasure
is all mine. Thank you forhaving me and uh yeah those everyone over
at the One Great work network allfantastic people. You know. I suggest
the listeners of this really do takesome time and energy to go over there

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and check out all of them oneby one, one video by the time,
whatever, at your own pace.But there's like a I call it
the Baskin Robbins of truth where there'sa flavor for everyone. Yeah, and
you know you're going to find somebodythat you really jive with, that you
click with, and and they'll beable to help you out learn some learn
some good stuff about natural loss andgood stuff about anarchy. And you know,

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all of all of the paths towardfreedom that you know, there's people
covering them over there. So yeah, well yeah, man. I usually
kicked by show off with this firstquestion for every guest. So for those
who aren't familiar, man, canyou explain what it is that you do?
And I guess what woke you upto realizing maybe there's more to this

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life than you're originally taught or thought. What I do is I try to
raise awareness about a few different topics. Number one being natural law and morality,
Number two being the product of that, which would be a condition of
anarchism. And then number three,I really try to raise awareness of homeschooling

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and keeping children out of the clutchesof the government. Yeah, I see
this as a step, step wiseprogression into slavery. And it all starts
with the government indoctrination camps known aspublic school, right. So that's where
I really kind of hone in onand try to raise awareness of those things.

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And then the second part of thequestion again, please, I'm sorry.
Yeah, so I guess what wokeyou up to realize and maybe there's
more to this life than you're originallytaught or thought. So growing up in
you know, northern Massachusetts, forthe most part, I kind of came.

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I came from a broken home andI had a stepdad. He raised
me and my sister. He hadthree boys of his own, so there
was like a decent, you know, a nice dysfunctional family, seven of
us, you know. And notto knock my biological father, he did.
He did everything he could. Hekind of got the shit under the

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stick in my opinion. But anyways, so growing up with my stepdad around,
he really taught me a lot aboutabout, you know, the Constitution
of the United States. He reallyloved the Constitution, He really loved the
ideas of within it and you know, status as he was, he taught

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me a lot about what real violencemeans. I will never forget. He
wanted to take him to a boxingmatch. This is just a quick story.
He wanted to take me to aboxing match. I was probably I
was very young, and my motherwouldn't have it. It's so violent.
She would say, it's so violent, and he said, it's not violent.
They consent to hitting each other inthe face, that's not violence.

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And I was very young when Iheard that. When I was young,
I was like eight years old,taking apart rifles, cleaning them, putting
them back together. By the timeI was eleven, I was shooting them
out of range. Wow. Andthen so I grew up in this kind
of lifestyle of like self defense wasimportant and knowing your rights was important.
Exercising your rights are important things todo. And what really woke me up

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to their being more to this thingcalled bife than meets the eye is.
He died when I was sixteen,and it was very traumatic experience for me,
for my whole family, even butwe were he passed away pretty quickly.
He got sick and we spent sometime together while he was sick.

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And we were sitting there on ouron our patio one afternoon and he and
I were alone, and he lookedat me and he said, he said,
you know, James, I justthought i'd have more time, and
there's a lot of things I wishI would have done with that time.

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And I looked at him and Iwas like, what do you mean?
And he knew he was dying.We were all in denial about it,
but he knew it. And thatis stuck with me for a very long
time. And you know, afterhe passed away, I kind of went
nuts and like went off and dida bunch of crazy things that you know,

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a sixteen year old kid would do, I guess, or what the
sixteen year old version of me woulddo, Yeah, trying to cope.
Yeah, But I mean that's reallykind of like what really woke me up
was like my son was born.I was about I was about twenty six

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years old, and that's what snappedme out of the modality of Satanism,
was that I watched this human beingcome out of another human being, and
I'm like, I did that.I helped do that, I helped make
the person. Creation can happen,like you know, spirituous man, it's

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a miracle. Yeah, literally,and like that really kind of snapped me
out of see like growing up knowingyou know, the right, all the
rights and all the things. Ijust explained, But I was trapped in
and mindset of Satanism for just overjust over a decade of my life where

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it was just cutthroat, selfishness.I was yeah, yeah, just and
you know, but my son beingborn really just like jarred something loose and
snapped me out of that. Andever since then it was like it turned
into a mindset of I have thisimmense responsibility. I'm going to be playing

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a part in the shaping of thisperson, and I need to take that
seriously because, aside from my stepdad, he was the only adult in my
life that really took it seriously.Right. My my my biological parents didn't
seem to take things very seriously,and that led to a lot of strife

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for my sister and die, butwe both managed to pull through it somehow.
So I hope that's too much ofa long winded answer to your question.
Oh that was beautiful, brother.Thanks for being open and vulnerable and
sharing those are truths man, mygoodness, um um to see you know
you're still sitting here having this conversationand you know to be strong through all

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that, man Um, I justhave to ask, like to pin it
down. So, like, doyou mean like Satanism as like a psychological
grip on you or like you wereliterally a member of the Church of Satan,
or like just to people don't needto be a member of the Church
of Satan, right need to beknowing that they're practicing Satanism, and they

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don't need to know these things inorder to actually be a Satanist. You
see, it's all about mindset.You're when when you're of like the selfish
mindset, when you know these tenetsof Satanism are just the way you live
your life and you're you're just that'sjust how you're trained, like trained into
doing things. I had this attitudeof like hedonism. I love to drink,

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I'd love to you know, chasethe ladies around, and it was
all about me. It was everythingwas about me, right, I didn't
care who For a while there,I didn't care who I had to step
on, you know, And therewas always this like conscience within me being
like oh why are you doing thesethings? And then they're like the surface

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level where I would just be like, well, I don't care, you
know, And that's what it reallycame down to. I just didn't care
about much, right And so yeah, I mean there's no formal background of
of being a member of any church, right. No, I was just

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clarified, brother, like, Isee what you did. But for the
lessers listed like I wanted that clarified. So they're like, was this guy
a member of the church, Isayd or like was he talking about here?
So thank you for explaining that,brother. Yeah, I think you
know, we can all be blindfollowers of you know, a set of

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um I wouldn't even call them ethics, like principles that are completely based on
selfishness and nihilism and inversion and totallyout for your own gain and like you
said, willing to step on anyoneto get what you see you need or
want, um, you know,whatever you desire and do what thou wilt
type of mentality, you know,like anything good or evil can be made

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good for your own means, Likeit is a twisted view of reality and
to like live through and you know, I think I think we all go
to that, go through that tocertain degrees, and you know, through
the trials and tribulations we go throughin life, there's different rebirthing processes that

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kind of can snap us out ofthose patterns of behavior of you know,
just conducting ourselves as like ethical,moral human beings that like choose to do
the right thing or do the goodthing over what's convenient for us, and
you know, what makes us lookgood or like inflates our own egos,
like my goodness, where do webegin with that? Man? Just look

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around my goodness? Right? Imean, there there's a lot of people
out there that are acting those ways, and you're right, like something happens,
like some sort of divine intervention happensin their life, and it really
like drags the care right out andright to the surface and throws it right

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in the people's faces. You know, and good people, you know will
act really in real evil ways sometimesand not even aware of it. But
then the consequences come around and alot of people can learn from their mistakes
and they they can get better.You know, it's just a matter of

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how just a matter of how longuntil they you know, feel the consequences
of their actions and whether or notthey're able to recognize, you know,
the fork in the road if youwill. And and then just like kind
of you know, maneuver a change, you know, change directions a little
bit, and you're willing to change. Yeah, it's all about care,

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right, really revolve Everything revolves rightaround that precious word care. So yeah,
man, I I think if wedon't, if we don't, so
what about this whole narrative out there, like, um, if we don't
care for ourselves, If we don't, um, you know, do the
inner work, you know, thegreat work if you will. Um,

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we're not able to help others.We're not able to be of service to
others in the way we would beof utmost value. Um. Do you
agree with that you know message outthere and world you know, in the
spiritual circles and things like this,or do you do you feel that is
not fully correct? I agree withwhat you said that you care for yourself

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first, to make yourself available tocare for others. So long as that
second part is included, I completelyagree with that. The Satanist mindset would
be I care for myself and that'sit, right, Yeah, screw everyone
else? Right, But if you'readding that second part. Agree, you

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can't give somebody something that you firstdon't have, right, but if you
ask me for five dollars and Idon't have it in my pocket, I
can't give it to you. Iknow it's a simple. I know it's
a simple like kind of comparison metaphoror whatever. You can't pour from an
empty cup? Right, actually?Yeah, right, so right, yeah,
I guess you know, sometimes likeI get in my own head about

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that, like am I being selfright now by like you know, putting
up boundaries or like, uh,you know, I feel like I had
a natural tendency to be a peoplepleaser for a lot of my life,
and that's something I'm still working onand working through and you know, working
through those triggers as they come up. But you know, it's a tough
one for me. Man. It'slike is it selfish to like care for

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byself of this way so I cangive more to others? Like that's something
I commonly wrestle with, like theguilt and shame of that is like not
being heard of byself of those waysyou know, protecting your having that kind
of you know, like that mentalself defense by putting up those boundaries can

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be perceived as as an act ofselfishness, right, Like what you're describing
can definitely, you know, thatcan definitely happen. But it's an act
of self defense. So it's anact of love for yourself and a matter
of self respect. So I wouldsay, you're okay, you know,
and so long as it's not leadingto harming anyone, you know. I

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I'm thankful that you can agree onthat, man, because I feel like
sometimes you know, it's like justjust learning how to navigate and understand where
um the voice is coming from.You know, is it like heart centered
or is it completely bid diluted andyou know, polluted into this you know,

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self hatred, nihilistic way of doingthings. You know. Yeah,
if you're putting if you've got tobe able to stand firm within your boundaries,
you know, or else you leaveit push over. Yep, exactly.
People take advantage of people. Youknow that sharks are swimming around they

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smell the blood in the water,you know, like a swabbing um.
But yeah, man, so,um, I guess your your whole initiation
into an anarchism or voluntarism um startedat a young age. Um, just
um based on how you were raised, would you say or um? Did

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you kind of seek it on yourown? I was led there, um,
But like there were certain things thatprimed me to understand the principles of
anarchism and natural law that that thatwere having. So these certain like these
things primed me from a young age. But it wasn't like a direct path

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from a young age. So youknow that makes sense. I say that,
like, you know, layer bylayer, these things were stripped away
trust and authority, you know,outside authority, man made law lay.
So yeah, like one by one, these different forms of authority were just
like deemed untrustworthy in my eyes.And then after I'm sitting there and there's

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there's no more there's no more authorityfigures left for me to think I can
trust, I'm just like, well, and that's kind of how it happened
for me, you know, um, certain certain things in life, Like
I mean, the first time Iheard the word anarchy, I was probably

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like twelve or you know, twelveor thirteen years old, and I just
thought, you know, it's justfun, Like it's this fun thing where
it's breaking out windows, like completechaos. It's like was like your initial
perception, would you say, Imean age, I mean it was one
of my first Actually, it's funny, one of my first real exposures to

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anything anarchy was on MTV and Ibelieve it was like the Vivla Bam show.
Oh yeah, yeah, so Imean maybe about and they went to
Skatopia and they were hanging out overthere with Bruce Martin. And now I
know Brandon Martin and he's awesome,but that I watched that on TV and

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I'm like seeing the anarchy symbol orwhatever, and you know, from what
I can recall right now, butlike that was one of the first times,
you know, because the A inskate Topia is like the anarchy symbol
and right, so yeah, Imean that was kind of one of one
of my earliest memories of really likeseeing like hearing anarchy or whatever. But

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um, as far as like thetenets of it and what true anarchism is,
I didn't really start learning about thatuntil a handful of years ago,
where you know, I'm seeing thesepeople running around, you know, no
gods, no masters, and that'snot what anarchy means. I've learned that
since. But um, that's moreof like a anarcho socialist type of motto.

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True anarchy is just no masters.Yeah yeah, I agree, Yeah
yeah. Man cannot rule another man. Only man can rule himself. Yeah
yeah. Can we talk a bitabout objective morality and right and wrong action?

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Um, and you're common overstanding ofwhat that those words mean to you.
What they mean to me is thesame thing that it means for everybody.
And the objective morality is So there'sthe objective statement. So there is

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a right and wrong and that existsequally the same for everyone. They can't
understand it. Everyone that can gainthat is capable of gaining an understanding of
it. So, I mean,we have all millions and millions of different

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rights. We don't have enough timein the world to explain all of those.
We have a very we have avery short list of wrongdoings, and
if we can do our best toavoid those wrongdoings, then the level of
freedom that will have will increase.So what we're talking about here is um

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like the laws of behavioral consequence.And so this is another name for natural
law. Okay, that so wehave natural law like universal law, spiritual
law, cosmic law, moral law, karmic law, the law of cause
and effect, the Golden rule andGod's law. So these are all different
names for natural law. But theseven seven transgressions against natural law is murder,

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assault, rape, have to trespass, coercion, and deception. So
if we can do our best,if everyone can do their best to avoid
doing all doing those things, we'regonna we're gonna experience a much better outcome
and level of freedom. You know, the condition of freedom is going.

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We're going to get an increase inthat, the likes of which we've never
seen. Um. So So Imean, this is what objective morality basically
is spaitifully put brother, Um,yeah, I think, um, you

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know, we we fall into theseum crapshoots of division in all sorts of
ways um and put titles on everythingof you know, who we are as
individuals, and we get lost inthat to the point, um we get
angry at each other and it's weinvest our emotions into these identity, these

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false identities, um, which causedus to lash out at others, which
then comes the violence. And whatdo you what do you feel is the
root of violence? Because you know, if we are if we eradicate the
violence, um, which you know, I think we could all agree that
would be a better world. Butyou know what what stems what is the
root of the violence? Would yousay it comes from many different areas,

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But I would say that the thata lot of the a lot of the
violence that we're seeing today stems largelyfrom jealousy perhaps you know, it comes
from the kind of area um Andso I mean, what we what we're
looking at is basically a construct aroundus where material possessions are what is value,

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and the human beings here have beenseparated so much from what is truly
valuable, which is life itself forms, so not only human life, but
animals and like you know, naturallife, plant life, the life of

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the earth itself. I like,I like in it too. We're on
a space station, you know,we're that's that's where we're at, right,
you know, Like we get boxedinto these houses and that's fine,
shelters great. Like I'm not knockingthat, but I'm saying, is that

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the trivial things that go on inour lives kind of put blinders on and
gives us tunnel vision. And theway that we've been conditioned and to this
into this slavery system. It's beendone intentionally not to not let enough people

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see the bigger picture and what iswhat is really valuable. So this is
why I think jealousy, which inmy understanding of it is you have you
have something I don't, right,And that's why I think that jealousy is

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the root cause of a lot ofthe violence. M h. It's like
it's literally like that dude over therelooks happy, you know, he's blissed
out. He's uh, you know, he's on top of the hog of
what life could be and what lifeshould be and all this. You know,
he's living it, and someone isjealous of that. They're like,

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well, I'm depressed, I feellike shit, you know, my girlfriend
doesn't love me, my mom abandonedme. You know, all these narratives
that play out a victimhood, andthey're like, I want what they have,
so I'm willing to take it fromthem through a violent act as a
result of my own triggers and traumaand selfishness. You know, say this

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bide set, it's just crazy that. Yeah, it's like all the me,
me me type of relationship, youknow, and not to say it's
there's so much value in just lifeitself that when somebody's looking at somebody going
I wish I had what what theyhave. Well, all they really have

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is their life. Everything else isgone, gone in an instant even I
mean, of course their life canbe gone in an instant as well.
But say you strip away all thematerial possessions, everyone's the same. This
is the beautiful thing about why wereally have the same rights no matter what,

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is because we're all the same inthe eyes of the eyes of creation.
And that these laws of nature,I mean, that's why they're called
the laws of nature. This hasnothing to do with Charles Darwin or any
of that laws of the jungle bullshit. Right, laws are they are woven
into the very fabric of creation itself, and it applies to all of us

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equally, you know. And thisis the biggest thing that people cannot see
because of the blinders that have beenput on them by the control system,
their masters. This is why they'rethe masters, is because they know psychology,
and they know how to get otherpeople's heads, and they can make

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people do things that they otherwise wouldn'tdo. They comically remove themselves and you
know, well, their their karmicdebt. They'll have to pay up or
it eventually, right, No onethat you know. Do you do you
believe that we're given offers by theopposition to choose from and it's our free

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will to choose the right action?Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, So do
you think they are removed in thatsense and their mind at least? Like
so free will? Whatever whatever isgoing on in their mind is irrelevant,
right, So, I mean inthe eye and in the eyes of in

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the mind of the universe. Sothey're going to feel that they're going to
have a karmic debt to pay,right, whether or not it's larger than
the debt that we have to payfor following the orders. That's a completely
different conversation. Well, so theorder followers are always more morally culpable than

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the ones who are giving the orders. That does not mean that the order
givers are not morally culpable, rightor liable for their actions? Exactly.
Yeah, So what you're saying,and I agree with you one hundred percent.
They do give us options. There'salways an option, right, That's
the beautiful thing about free will.Everyone could wake up tomorrow morning and decide

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they're not playing the game anymore.It's a game, literally, just like
the you know the title of show, you know, the Chessmen. Yep.
So it's a big chessboard, yep. It's just about who's pushing the
pieces around, and it's we thatshould be pushing our own pieces around instead
of having being been pushed around byother people who have no right to do

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the things that they do on adaily basis. They have no right to
put the laws in all of thebullshit that they put on us every day.
They have no right to steal fromus through taxation. Their arbitrary laws
are null and void if they goagainst natural law. It doesn't matter if
they're written down or not. They'reno and void. They don't count.

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It's just a matter of how manypeople they can convince to play along,
and through that consent, that's howthey get everybody ensnared. You know,
Um, I don't know your theorieson it, or you know if you've
seen it firsthand yourself or heard secondhand, but you know I did hear a
lot that you know, people standingup for their own sovereignty and religious freedom,

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um, throughout the last two yearsof nonsense, and you know,
standing up for themselves and knowing whothey are in that way you know that
that that shut it all down inmy opinion, Um do you do you
do you feel that was the caseor do you think it just ended naturally
on its own because they saw thatpeople weren't going along with it anymore?

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Or what are your thoughts on that? Oh man, that's what you even
want to comment? That's a prettygood question. And um my thoughts on
that. Wow, I haven't thoughtabout that and sometime, Um, it's
not out of it now. Imean we were never really in it,
right, I wasn't. It's justwhether or not you like thought. I

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mean we all. I always saythat there's a lot of people, even
myself, who for a minute therewere like is this really happening? Right?
Like maybe you know, maybe Ishould listen for like a minute.
Okay, maybe two weeks off fromwork isn't so bad. But I never
got any time off because I'm atrash man and I'm neither a worker.

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So I mean, um it,yeah, I mean I haven't paid much
attention to that recently, but Iwould say that like, uh, let
me say from my from my ownperson back, like I I lost I
didn't lose it. No one losttheir life, but There is a good

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portion of my family who no longertalked to me because of not taking the
boop boop right, and that isa crying shame. I think that it
was. I think that it wasall just a SSI op. Yeah,
you know, to get people tolike I remember back when it all first

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kicked off and every every photo,everyone was sharing these beautiful photos of how
nature is coming back, and Ithink it was just kind of like to
you know, prime the engine ofthis climate change. Uh, they're going
to do climate lockdowns. This wasjust the test drive, right, No,
So I mean I think they gotout of it. I hope.

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I'm answering your question now. Ithink they got out of it what they
wanted to get out of it,and that's why they will to be like,
Okay, we don't need this thinganymore. And as far as like
people standing up for themselves having anythingto do with that, I don't think
enough people stood up for themselves tohave anything. Sure, there were a

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lot of loud voices and there's alot of good people speaking up. I
don't want to take away from whatthey were doing, but not enough people
in this country. Are you kiddingme? Where were all the patriots right,
where were all the people that werelike that, are that are die
hard patriots? They fell for ittoo. They were cowering behind their mother's

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skirts because their guys said, soyep, they said, I've rolled it
out here, it is for you. They took their Magga jabs and their
Brandon boosters and they went off runningand they were happy about it. So
I don't really think enough people stoodup and said anything. If enough,
if they were, if if therewere people that were actually going to make

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a difference, it would have beenright at the beginning, enough people said
no, right, that would havebeen the tipping point. What do you
truly feel is the tipping point foryou? Like as far as numbers,
like do you think it would take? You know, and I'm fathomable about
amount of people like millions and millions, you know, the majority of our

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population here in the States, youknow, around the world. You know,
what is your perspective on that?And maybe that's too far out question
or not easy to answer. AndI don't mean to put you on the
spot asking that, but like,do you feel it wouldn't take that many
of us to stand up and saywe're done with this for at all to

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crumble on its head, or doyou feel that there's just too many people
going against the grain that are goingalong with everything to you know, put
a stop to it. I haveno idea how few people there are going
again it's the grain to put astop to this. I think that there's
a large amount of the bystander effectsgoing on where maybe everybody there's a picture

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there's ten people standing in a circleand one of them is doing something crazy,
and the other nine are just like, everyone's thinking the same thing,
but they're all waiting for the otherone of the other nine to be the
first one to speak up about something. And this is, to my understanding,
classically known as a bystander effect,where no one speaks up. So

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there could be like, there couldbe billions of people across the globe thinking
the exact same thing, but everyone'stoo afraid to be the first one to
say anything, and all it takesis that little match, that little spark,
and then the whole powder keke goesup. You know, I have
no idea how many people would takeThere's a lot of technology out there,
there's a lot of weapons of warout there. I have no idea.

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But I'll tell you what. I'lltell you what. These people will stop
at nothing to maintain the power thatthey have. Right, That's that's the
thing that people need to remember.So transition from that to this, speak
speak up because that's the most peacefulway. So if you feel these ways,

(35:13):
if you see something wrong, ifyou're acutely aware of the wrongdoings that
are taking place on a daily basisto people, to innocent people, you
have a moral obligation to speak up. And that is the most peaceful thing
you can do. So I don'twant to tell anybody to go storming anything
or do any of these things.But I want to say is I want

(35:36):
to encourage people to speak up.There's more There are more people out there
that are thinking it than you couldever imagine. Right, Yeah, you
know, it just made me thinkof something man like. So, you
know, for the people that areout there doing it and you know,
got up completely out of the system, living off grid, it seems like

(35:59):
once they get to that point,at least in my mind, maybe I'm
naive on this or don't know enoughon the specific subject, but like for
the people that have gotten their successesand gotten successfully out and they're doing it.
They're out there doing it, andthey're not vocal about it. At

(36:19):
that point, they're like, I'vegot what I needed and I'm free now.
But what about everyone else, Like, do you feel like they're still
they're still liable to like speak upstill even though they've achieved their success.
But you can't leave everyone else hanging, you know what I mean? Yeah,
I think I'm picking up what you'reputting down. You know, if

(36:42):
people can get out, then youknow, good for you. I think
that there's enough. I think thattechnology, like what we're using now,
for instance, to communicate, Ithink that it's reached this point where there's
no longer an excuse for if youno way way to live a more sovereign
life, then I really don't thinkthat there's any real excuse to not share

(37:09):
that information or that knowledge with people. And if you keep making excuses,
then you should take a hard lookat yourself and wonder why am I being
so selfish? There's a lot ofpeople out there that would benefit from that
type of knowledge. And you know, I mean, living off grid is

(37:34):
a lot of hard work. Ibet I've never done it. I've gone
on plenty of camping trips as akid. So I have a I have
a very you know, I gotmy toe in the water if you were
right right, you know, Sam. But I know some good people up
in Maine, the levelution crew.I've been made Amy and John Paul and

(37:58):
they they they live off grid andthey're wonderful people. Yea. So they
find a way to communicate out topeople what they know. They share their
information. So yeah, I meanagain, we you know, we uh,
we need to look out for oneanother. Yeah, if you have
an if you have a way thatcould help a lot of people, you

(38:21):
should share it, I think,right, I can qutely agree. You
know. I think a lot ofpeople just picture like they they're isolated at
that point, and they want tobe left alone, and they don't they
don't want to go back and likesave the sinking ship. You know.
Um, they feel like I've escaped, so just follow me and find your
own place out in the woods,you know, and you know, just

(38:45):
keep to myself at that point.But I do agree, man, I
think they still have the moral obligationto, you know, at least at
the very least, like take takeon interviews or you know, do their
part and sharing that knowledge back soothers can find the means to get there
on their own. Yeah for sure. But um, yeah, brother,

(39:09):
I know we talked pre show abit about, um, you know,
how our education system is uh indoctrinationcamp and I believe you brought that up
earlier as well. But can youkind of take us through like you're awakening
with that specifically and like your experiencesin the enslavement system we call public schools

(39:37):
and like you're yeah, just yourexperience with it, and you know how
you got out and how you've grownsince then. So earlier in our conversation,
I mentioned the layers right layer bylayer, right, first layer to
go was the first layer to gowas teachers, Okay, And that happened

(40:01):
when I was in kindergarten, andI realized I saw right through the bs
from that young age, and itjust it didn't make sense to me why
I was being told what I wasbeing told to do. In the little
kindergarten class, there was a rugand on that rug there were strips of
duct tape placed on the rug aroundthe around the perimeter of the of the

(40:27):
of the rug, and each stripof duct tape had a name on it
for each kid, and this iswhere the kids would have to sit for
story time. There was this cutegirl in my kindergarten class. I must
have been crushing on or whatever andwanted to I wanted to sit down next
to her. Okay, it's storytime, We're gonna sit down. I'm
like, I want to sit downhere, and the teachers like, you

(40:50):
can't sit down there? Your youra piece of tape is over there,
and I I just just like,I'm gonna sit down. I'm still going
to sit down right, you know, I just want to sit down over
here. I don't understand. Andthe teacher you know, oh James,
your name is on that piece oftape over there, that's where you have

(41:10):
to sit. And it made nosense to me, Like it made absolutely
no sense to me. I waslike, what the hell, Like they're
going to say, can't I sitwherever I choose? I'm still going to
sit, you know, and listento I don't know. It must have
been back in the day, likethere was like Eric Carl, you know,
the Hungry Caterpillar, you know,like those type of stories must have

(41:35):
something like that. We were meantto listen to but that's the gist of
my The first time I really realizedthat, like, these people are just
trying to get me to do thingsthat don't make sense, right. And
from there that was like, andwe're supposed to think they have it all
figured out, they're passing it allto us, right and that, And

(41:58):
then umm, I got to admitI was a very very hyperactive kid.
I was not meant I was.I am not the person meant to be
sitting in a classroom. It's justnot you know. So you know,

(42:19):
throughout the years, I would moveschools. We moved around a lot,
and every other year I'd be ina different school, you know, in
the Merrimack Valley area of Massachusetts.And so, yeah, I got to
know a lot of teachers. Igot to know a lot of kids.

(42:40):
And every time I went to aschool, I was like, Oh,
it's the teachers are really terrible here. It kind of mean and they don't
really like you know, and Iwas just like oh, and uh.
We would move schools and then I'dbe like, Oh, the teachers are
going to be better over at thatover at my new school. Yeah different,
yea, the teachers are going tobe different here. Nope. Wrong,

(43:04):
they were the same. And Iwas just why are they Why are
they all the same? Why dothey seem like they don't give a shit?
Why does it seem like all theycare about is like you have to
do what I say? Why?Like every school I went to it was
the same. It's just the onlything that changed with the names in the
faces. And a lot of thekids were the same too. But how

(43:28):
we were just kids, you know, um, But that always baffled me.
Yeah, And it's a good wayto put it, man, my
god, and and and like whatlike what what made things worse? It's
like I was a hyperactive kid andthey they convinced my mother to consent to

(43:50):
putting me on like riddling and adderallall these prescription drugs for this ADHD.
Right, And I uh, I'llsay it like this, it's not that
it's not that it can't exist.It's the amount of children that get diagnosed

(44:13):
with it. It's it can't Ijust refuse to believe that it's possible that
all these kids have ADHD. Dude, really quick, I just wanted to
interject and say, like, dude, I think we all have ADHD,
especially in a technological world, mygod, like the way we're being programmed
technologically, like just with our phonesand social media and all that shit,

(44:37):
like it's only increased and the shortattention spans and all that and right,
but I'm of the belief that itwas almost created too solely to push these
fucking so called poisons we call medications, you know, right, I mean
the medication Adderall. Before it wascalled Adderall, it was called overtrawl,

(44:58):
and that was they just changed thename. Yeah, they just changed the
names so they could get the FDAto approve it. And it was a
dietary drug before, but it waslike not really doing the thing that it
was being sold to do properly,so they never really got the stamp from
the FDA. So it changed thename, that changed the use, and

(45:20):
then next thing, you know,bam, you know it's it's okay to
do now to kids as young aslike kids young as like six years old,
sometimes even younger. Crazy dude,yeah, very crazy. And so
I mean if you I can't buyinto much of the you know, the

(45:42):
the psychiatry or the diagnosis of youknow, different psychological what they would call
defects or disorders based on the limitedknowledge that I have on just how the
the DSM, the diagnostics and statisticsmanual, how that is created. Like

(46:06):
I just right now, I refuseto really um buy into much of,
if not any of of what thatbook has to say and how they're diagnosing
kids. I think it's all ascam. I don't think spiritual components cut
completely out man Like, yeah,I mean, I don't think that factors
into when you think about it,attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. I don't think

(46:31):
that there's a disorder, Dude.You couldn't have said it better, you
know. I don't think that thedisorder, right, I think that the
humans it's it is. It's ablessed it's a blessed gift from a treation
that we're not meant to be putinto a box and sit in a chair

(46:54):
and be told what to do forlike twelve. I mean, the first
few years in school aren't exactly likethat, But if you're conditioned into that
behavior and then from there it's offto the races and you spend fifteen thousand
hours of your life over the courseof twelve years in public school. We

(47:15):
are not meant for this. Thisis not what human life is supposed to
be the only thing you're learning thereis how to be obedient for who for
the control structure exactly, that's theonly thing you're there for. They teach
you fake history, they teach youfake language, they teach you fake math,

(47:38):
all of it. It's only thereto limit the amount of knowledge that
you have when you come out ofthere's an outcome based education system. They
want you to be molded like aball of clay, literally their image and
their image. And when you goagainst the grain with these people, they'll

(47:59):
stop nothing, I mean nothing,to maintain control over each and every one
of us. When you're a youngchild and you go against the grain hard
enough, they'll drug you. Yep, as young as six, sometimes younger.
I was nine when I was puton the medication. It fucking it
was devastated. I'll never know.I will never know what my life could

(48:23):
have been if not for that meds, If the meds were never there,
I'll never know that, right,beat myself up over it. I don't
lose sleep about it. But it'sjust now we're on the topic. Better
be honest, I'll never know,right, I have to make peace with
that, you know. And theytricked my mother. That's what they you

(48:45):
know, excuse my language, butman, no words, it's a thing.
But I mean, this is whatthey do. And again I'm not
I'm not so I'm not so belligerent, you know, to say that that

(49:06):
there's no one out there with likemaybe you know, maybe there's something going
on and their brains not doing whatit's supposed to do properly in the natural
functions, aren't you know, I'mnot trying to say anything like that.
I fully understand that head injuries,traumatic head injuries can occur and that changes
people. Right, Perhaps medicine isnecessary, but we have to ask ourselves

(49:36):
what medicine are we supposed to betaking. Are we supposed to be taking
synthetic pharmaceuticals that are only there forprofit and not for your health? Or
do things exist that grow naturally outof the ground that won't that won't cause
you harm, that won't turn youinto a drug addict later on in your

(50:00):
life, Because that's what medications likeriddling and all concert, that's what these
medications due to young children's brains growinga brain around this drug an addict and
then once they're old enough, youknow, it's they're addicted and they're they're

(50:20):
done, you know, But wecan utilize things like cannabis. You know,
we've seen we've seen um wonderful,wonderful outcomes for people with epilepsy.
Oh yeah, I know this isthis is more than a few standard deviations
away from something like what they wouldcall ADHD. But let's let's just focus

(50:44):
on the calming effect that cannabis canhave on the brain or even the nervous
is even CD yeah? Yeah,Also, and these things are natural,
they're non addictive, they're not habitforming, and geez, how how how
much more greater can it get?Right? And so I like to draw

(51:08):
attention to cannabis for treating if yourkid is so it's not even about hyperactivity.
There comes a time where the wherelike you know, where the line
gets crossed and now it's just aggression. Yep. And I have seen through

(51:31):
like different programs that I was inand different different different kids that I saw
growing up. I saw some kidsthat were very, very aggressive. We
have to we have to ask somehard questions. What's going on at home?
Are their parents treating them right?Are they being sexually abused, physically

(51:52):
abused? What different types of abandonmentissues are they dealing with. Could the
fact that they're being put into itselfbe a be a contributing factor to their
aggression, because that's a that's likeit or not. Folks out there,
putting your kids in public school isnot only leaving them in a place where

(52:16):
a lot of violence happens, butit's also a soft form of abandonment.
It's physical abandonment. You're saying here, Yeah, you know, for the
next eight hours, I'm not goingto be there. No one, you
know, no one's more responsible foryour children than you. But like this
is where But back to the otherpoint. You know, when we see

(52:38):
these things happening with the young people, we shouldn't be doing things that are
damaging them more. We should bedoing things that are going to help them
cope and help them learn to buildcope coping mechanisms for themselves they'll be able
to utilize later on in their life. They can self actualize and really come

(52:59):
into their own and be a nonnot aggressive member of whatever this big community
you want to call it, societywhatever. Right, So that should be
the goal, but it's not,and that disturbs me clearly. Yeah,
it's fucking disturbing, man, Like, how could it not be like once

(53:23):
you can see it, and youknow, I think it goes back to
like it's foundations and you know,the Rockefellers that took over education and completely
created this like mirror image of likethe assembly line. You know, Ford
was already on his way to makeand you know that had already been established,

(53:45):
and you know, they didn't everwant people to think for themselves.
They just wanted you know, usefulworkers and that was it and you know,
just go along to get along,you know, don't question anything.
And you know that's something that youknow, I think I always was asking
questions from a young age, andyou know my parents would often say that's

(54:08):
enough questions, you know, shutup, or you know I've heard it
off. But like the older Igot, and growing up in a private
school, a Catholic school, youknow, like when I really started to
ask those hard questions to religious teachersand they couldn't answer them, I started
to you know, see how itaffected my grade and that that really opened

(54:32):
me up to like, wow,it's not even about because you were graded
upon class participation and like these groupdiscussions and I was one of the ones
that would talk the most, youknow, like I was, I love
talking, you know, I havea podcast now, I talk for a
living, you know, like II enjoy this. And like if you

(54:53):
went off the reservation in terms ofwhat what could be talked about openly,
like you were shunned and um,you were given like um you know this
like rude face over it. Andit's like I'm just asking all his questions
here, Like I'm literally, uh, you know, just trying to have

(55:14):
a group discussion, which I thoughtwe were having. And that's that's when
it really started to click for meas far as the religion aspect of things.
And I had to I had togo on my own journey, um
with religion and spirituality and you know, what do I believe in and reconstructing
my beliefs and I carried into mytwenties, man, like I could have

(55:37):
prevented a lot had I not beenindoctrinated in that way religiously, like separated
not just from the indoctrination from education, but religion stacked on top of that.
My god, Like it's a wholedifferent ballgame. So you were you
were showing what happens to you whenyou don't tow the line, you know,

(56:00):
when you don't. Yeah, soliterally that's that's a very good thing
that you were able to piece thattogether, ye know. And I also
learned like, um, you know, I I remember talk me a good
friend of mine, uh Nate washis name. We we watched a documentary

(56:22):
about nine to eleven. I believeit was Loose Change back in high school,
and we debated a teacher of amusic theory class, like a whole
hour and a half class period debateabout nine eleven. And uh, you
know, he had the whole classon his side, and you know,
we were two young kids, Likehe had a two page paper prepared and

(56:44):
like we're just like, you know, bring it together the bits of pieces
we could remember. So we totallygot owned like in that class. But
it made me see that like it'snot about who's right or wrong, it's
about who has the majority and thepopular opinion at their disposal. And that's
what it opened up for me too, of like wow, like everyone will

(57:05):
just go along with it because um, it's it's harder on them to stick
their necks out and go against thegrain and to like be a part of
the minority, you know, andreally open up their minds to a different
opinion or a different way of seeingthings. And that that really you know,
because I went into it thinking likeeveryone's going to see how obvious this

(57:30):
was, and everyone's gonna like takeour side, and I could to bed
boar rong and it taught me ahard lesson very early of like, um,
not everyone's out for your best interestsand not everyone um can change like
you want them too, you know. Yeah. See that's important is that
you you can't change people. Youcan't change their minds. Oh you do

(57:54):
is playing seeds right, They're goingto change their own mind yea. And
good for you for sticking up foryourself. That's a tough thing to do
at a young age, and likehigh school, because you're right, there's
a lot of people that want toconform and it's tough for them. But

(58:14):
this is how the indoctrination has goneon for generations. Now get the you
know, and these poor kids arebeing influenced in every corner of their life
to like go with the crowd.It's just like you said, with like

(58:36):
forward setting up the factories and everythinglike that. That's what most people are
being indoctrinated into to be at workor be a soldier, and both of
those things rely heavily on conformity.So of course you know they're gonna,
Oh, I want to be popular. I want to be the popular kid.
I don't want to go and youknow, be the brave kid and

(58:59):
speak my mind thinking I think.And it's like you said, like they're
being taught what to think, youknow, not how to think. It's
a problem, major problem, majorproblem. You know. I I think
you do a great job of,you know, shining light on this major

(59:21):
problem, brother, and I curatedyou for you know, the lectures you've
given and you know the information youput together and talking from first hand experienced
man, it's very vulnerable of you. And you know to um, you
know even admit you know, Idon't know the damage that was done at
that age, um, from thatpoison that was given to me and pushed

(59:43):
upon me with you know, outreally without really a saying you know what
you were in taking in your body, Like how can a kids stand up
for himself when he has the schooland the parents going against him? You
know, you you're you're forced intothat without even a say, And um,
you know, I just want to, um, you know, for

(01:00:04):
the listeners listening, UM tell them, like please go check out your lectures
and um more information on this topicbecause I think you do a great such
a great job brother, and uh, I appreciate what you do, so
thank you, well, thank youman. That was very very kind of
you to say. I did give. UM. I did give the presentation

(01:00:27):
last year at Shattering the Illusion.It was titled ADHD a Modern Attack on
Free Thinking No free thinkers. Excuseme, I can't even remember my own
thing. Whatever. Uh it's there, it's on YouTube and and it's you
know, on my website I think. But anyways, yeah, I mean

(01:00:52):
I gave I gave that one talkso far, and um, I'm doing
another presentation coming up this later onthis year and September September twenty four and
twenty fifth of this year, andthat's going to be at the Seed uh
Seed conference. Seed five Metamorphosis isgoing on and awesome. People should really

(01:01:13):
check that out. I mean,I'll be there, like I said.
But like Brandon Martin, Nate Capthe boys over at the Cubbyhole podcast,
they're putting this thing on and thisis the fifth one, like these guys
got it down. They they're they'repros my great job in my opinion,
you know, they're they're they're verynice people, very kind and generous.
And I really you know, ifthey're hearing this, thanks for letting me

(01:01:37):
come over and give a talk.Um. But I'm gonna be giving a
presentation that I'm calling Fear is Illusion, and I'm just basically going to go
through you know how fear is justyou know, just that it's an illusion.
Do you have to be tricked intoit? Of course? But I'm
all right, I digress from thatpoint. But but yeah, I mean,

(01:01:59):
my my podcast is called a Hitchhiker'sGuide the Truth and you can find
my website Free your Mind ande dotcom. So Free your Mind, New
England. You can just give thata little Google or whatever and whatnot.
But I just really want to makesure people know that, like the choice
is ours, you know, atall times, in all places, we

(01:02:22):
have say over what happens with us. We need to be able to lift
our kids up and to be thewind under their wings is so important.
It's going to be so much greatchange. And you got to homeschool your
kids. And even if it meansthat to the very least, you're you

(01:02:45):
know, it's going to take alot of sacrifice people, it really is.
But we we've woken up, right, Okay, there was a time
when we were asleep. So thegoal is to wake other people up up.
But we can't forget about the peoplethat are young, because that's all

(01:03:06):
they are. They're just young.They're just young humans. They're just little
humans. But um, our goalshould also be to like never have anyone
to sleep again, you know,And that means that we have to remove
the kids from violent situations. AndI believe that most children the first time

(01:03:29):
they're ever exposed to violence is ina school. There's other kids out there.
They you know, I'm not tryingto speak in an absolute here,
just a lot of yeah, alot of kids, yeah the first time.
Yeah. So man, I justwant to really like shout it from

(01:03:52):
the shut it from the hilltops,you know what I mean? And uh,
but um, yeah, I meanyou can come check out my podcast.
That'd be great totally. I'll putall the links in the description.
Brother, Um, thank you somuch for the amazing discussion to night.
Man really enjoyed this one and itwas really free flowing. You know,

(01:04:13):
I U, I vibe with youright off the bat, and UM,
I think we see eye to eyeon nearly everything. Uh. You know,
I think you know you have alot, a lot to share man,
and uh you're doing the great work. And so I courage you for
continuing. And UM see nothing butbetter things to come man, and you

(01:04:35):
know, keep fighting the good fight. UM. There's many out there listening,
and UM you know they're you know, lighting more candles of their own
as we keep our own candles,let you know. UM, So I
think we'll end it there. Um. I just want to thank everyone out
there for listening. Um. Ohthere was one more thing I wanted to

(01:04:58):
ask a really quick yeah go foryeah, so yeah about this? Uh
okay, So, UM say whatyou got going on in New England again
you said free your mind New England. Um, do you have like local
meetups of any kind? Have youbeen doing that sort of thing? That
is a very good question and Ireally am trying to get something like that

(01:05:23):
going on. It's something that Iwould love to be able to do and
to have like a once a monthlike let's watch a documentary and talk about
type of you know, hang wherelike you can really talk about we can
really come up with empowering solutions tothe the dire uh you know, the

(01:05:46):
bullshit. I'm sorry, I'm tryingto question, but like, you know,
all of the dire situation that we'rein, we could come up with
some empowering solutions for that, youknow, but it takes people to teach.
Sometimes, it takes peop teaming up, you know. I would love
to be able to do that fornow. Free your Mind, New England
is just a placeholder, uh sortof thing where it's like, yeah,

(01:06:10):
you know, it's it's there.I have it and it's been intention since
the beginning. I got the ideato call it Free your Mind. My
friend Ivan was on a phone call. Like Mark Passio's show What on Earth
Is Happening has been going on overa decade now, and I've been I
was listening to it a few yearsback, and I'd always hear this guy

(01:06:34):
Ivan calling in and talking with Mark, and I'm like, this dude,
Ivan's pretty cool, you know.He calls in every week, Like all
right, I'm listening to reruns.Eventually I get to meet I've met Ivan
in real life now he's just ascool. In real life as he has
a you know, hunter recording.Yeah and uh so. But they were

(01:06:56):
having a phone call and Mark wastalking talking about his old Free your Mind
conferences that he used to put onUM and Ivan started a website called Free
your Mind Arizona. So if there'sanyone listening to this out in Arizona,
look up for your Mind as dotcom. So and Mark and Ivan are

(01:07:17):
talking about this whole free your Mindthing and they're just like, oh,
yeah, there should be one inevery state. There should be one,
Like every every state should have afree your Mind meet up group where where
you know, where you can getaround, come together, discuss some things.
Maybe a book club, maybe adocumentary screening type of thing. Just

(01:07:43):
meet up, you know, likeminded people who wanted to, you know,
chip into creating solutions instead of wallowingin the pity, in the in
the problems. So I think that'sessential to have that community locally and you
know, get face to face,get in person and let's talk, man

(01:08:06):
like, let's do this. AndSo I heard that conversation, you know,
and I was like, that's areally good idea. I'm gonna hop
I'm gonna hop on that train.You know, like cool, like,
let's have a free your mind inevery state. Let's have a free your
mind in every country. Let's let'sdo it like let's you know. And

(01:08:30):
so that's why I have fore yourmind New England. I was gonna do
for your mind New Hampshire, butI was like, screw it, I'll
just do New England whatever. Youknow. Yeah, like it's not you
know what I mean. So yeah, um, but since we took an
extra minute, I really do MaybeI'm repeating myself, but I really do,

(01:08:51):
like feel the need. I'm likecompelled to just really put it out
there. Moral relative toism is theproblem. Okay. We talked about jealousy,
Okay, but when it comes withanother layer underneath the jealousy, moral
relativism is the problem. If wecan stop ourselves from being moral relativists,

(01:09:18):
then we're working toward a solution.Okay, that's going to lead us to
freedom, real freedom. All said, well, thank you so much.
James has been awesome. Really appreciateit, um, and I appreciate all
you out there listening. UM.I send you all peace and love.

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I hope you have a beautiful restof the week, and we'll see you
next time. Peace nice,