#178 - Scientology, Micronations & Contract Killing w/ Brandon Joe Williams

Brandon Joe Williams is a state national, author & Scientologist. We discuss Scientology, Micronations & how to kill contracts we've been manipulated into.

Link to Brandon's website:
https://onestupidfuck.com/

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Ascension of the Chessmen,diving into the esoteric, occult, spiritual,
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breathe, and together awaken into greatness. This is Ascension of the Chessmen,
with your host, Andre Middy.Welcome to the Ascension of the Chessmen podcast.
I'm your host, Andre Middy,today's guest as a state national author

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and scientologist. Ladies and gentlemen,Hobbinson Fairies, give a warm welcome to
Brandon Joe Williams. Hello, happento have your brother by an honor man.
Thank you, thank you, yes, thank you. I love the
work you're doing. And uh,you know, just all the success stories

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that are coming through UM are prettystaggering. UM. You know, I've
I've had many guys on my showin the past, UM in this arena,
and it seems many go at itfrom different ways, But you're the
first I've came across that really UMput it in terms that common folk like

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myself with half a brain can understandit. Yeah, So, um,
I appreciate what you're doing. Anduh, I usually start my show off
with this first question for every guest. So for those who aren't familiar Brandon,
can you explain what it is thatyou do? And I guess what

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woke you up to realizing maybe there'smore to this life than you originally taught
or thought. Um? Yeah,so so what do I do? I
I I basically clear up words inevery dictionary under the sun mooning stars,
and I find all of the secretI guess you could say secret or hidden

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when it's not really because it's there. These dictionaries are all available for anybody
look at. And I'm basically essentiallya word smith. I am a but
but it's all geared towards putting togetherthe puzzle. I consider myself like like

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words are the puzzle pieces, andI'm just putting together this like giant four
hundred and eighty million piece puzzle.Yeah. It's like the size of curiosity,
you know. And I'm just goingthrough and all these people are just
kind of like joining me, andthey just like walk by and they're like,

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oh shit, this is so cool. This giant puzzle you're doing.
Can I Can I come in?I'm like, I don't give a fuck,
dude, Like, and just peoplejust coming in, coming in coming,
in coming in, and we justhave this group and it's just getting
bigger and bigger and bigger and biggerand bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger
and bigger, and it's just this, uh, this gigantic, massive easter
rigg hunt kind of a thing.And it's like the first step is to

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find the pieces, and then thesecond step is to put the piece in
the right place and to connect itwith other pieces. Right, So it's
like a four hundred and eighty millionpiece puzzle. Yeah, And it's like
a it's like a it's like ait's like a giant, like public puzzle
that anyone can come and and andinvolve themselves with. And and and I'm

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just the guy who basically put itall together and said, hey, there's
a puzzle here, and put togetherlike some basic ways that you can find
puzzle pieces and basic ways that youcan relate those public puzzle pieces to other
puzzle pieces. And that's about it, really, And and the way that
I got here was the employment developmentdepartment decided they wanted to come and try

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to try to wipe out my company, and and and I wasn't gonna let
that happen. So I started doinga lot of research, and then one
thing led to the next, andthen I would just other door would open
and I'd be like, what thefuck? And I'd go through that door.
And then then other doors would open, door, door, door,
and I they'd open and I'd belike, what is this? What am
I getting myself involved in? Uh? And then before I knew it,

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I was, you know, threehundred doors deep in that um and and
then yeah, that's that's basically howit all started, honestly. Wow.
And and you had said you hadlike this client, you had landscape,
and uh in your ear about itfor years and you're like, uh,

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I don't know if I'm ready forthat or it's too good to be true,
like you were, just like everyone'slooking at you now pretty much.
Yeah, I was the That's whywhen I meet people and they're like,
fuck you, you're crazy, Ijust laughed because that was me for like
two years, you know, Souh it is. It's kind of funny.
I Uh, I don't get tooI think one of the this is
why I'm so effective at talking aboutthis stuff is because I just don't I

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don't really take any of it personally. Like I'm like, hey, you
realize you could file one document andnever pay taxes again. I'm like,
fuck you, You're fucking crazy,bro, You're I just laugh. I'm
like, yeah, yeah, Iknow, right, you know, same
shit I said, you know,so whatever. But it's one of those
things you just it's like planning seeds, you know what I mean. You
don't take it as a instant gratification. You take it as a planting seeds.

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You know. It's like, hey, did you know that blank?
Right? And it's like people wherethey're at. I'll tell you what.
Yeah, Yeah, I'm good atit. I guess that's probably why my
shit is so big. It becauseI'm very good at meeting people where they're
at and taking all of these puzzlepieces and explain them in a way that

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anyone can understand them. Um.Yeah, because the way I look at
it, I think it was Einsteinwho said, like, if you can't
explain something in extremely simple terms,or explain something to us seven year old
or something like that, you don'treally understand it, and I'm always thinking
it's all It's almost like Einstein's onmy shoulder and he's like, Yo,

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can you explain this to a sevenyear old? Uh No, I can't.
All Right, well, what areyou missing? Good question? Uh
So that's kind of what's always goingthrough my head all the time, dude.
UM, you know, listening topass shows you've done and talking about
your upbringing and you know, likehow they created a whole school for you

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because oh yeah, yeah, yougot kicked out of public schools or whatever,
and uh, got where was Igoing with this? That? Um?
You you had? UM, youknow went through all that and really
started to excel after you dropped outof fraternity in college and got into scientology.
Like as far as UM, whatwhat what you've been in fitted front

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it from it initially? And likewhat kept you involved with that? Um?
What was the motivation? And um? What do you feel you were
gifted out of um getting involved?Well, when I started in the church,
I couldn't read at all, um, and then what happened, law
is is that I learned about studytechnology and word clearing technology from the church,

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and then I started to apply itas best as I could for for
years, though I really struggled.I could still hardly read for like years.
It didn't really change right away.It didn't change until maybe five years.
After about five years, I startedlooking at the small common words like

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uh, you know, and areis were you know, a lot of
the linking words and article words andthat kind of thing, and and I
started to think in my head,like a fuck, like, I think
I don't think I really understand thesevery well. And for maybe like six
months to a year, I waskind of like in denial about it.

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I was sort of like, fuck, like I really don't want to spend
like the next three or four monthsof my life to really try to completely
understand all these small common words andall the various definitions, and and I
was just kind of like fuck,like, oh, it sounds so annoying
and this and that, and Ijust kind of like and then finally I
just broke down and I was like, all right, if I see a

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small common word and I can't tellyou which of the specific definitions of that
small common word, for example,the word you know r R as you
know fourteen fifteen, sixteen, seventeeneighteen different definitions, if I can't immediately
know exactly which definition is being used. Every single time I see the word

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R, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop, and I'm gonna go on the dictionary
and I'm going to clear up everysingle definition again, and then I'm going
to study the entire etymology of theword again. Wow. And so that
would take, you know, ahalf an hour every single time I did
it right, right, And sothat was it. I just started to

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do that. And I just startedto do that like like like like NonStop,
like big sigh, you know whatI mean, Like motherfucker, goddamn
it, you know, open upthe dictionary, you know what I mean.
After doing that for probably about twomonths, Uh, that's when I
got to a point where I startedto be able to read pretty rapidly.

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That was the breaking point. Afterthat point, I would still continue to
to clear up the definition of anyword I didn't understand. But so you
just started with the basic words andmoved on from there until you got those
definitions. You move forward, yep. And then I started to clear up

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more and more of the other wordsthat are not as common, but you
see them a lot. And Istopped assuming that I knew the definitions of
words, and I just even ifI was just curious, I would stop
and start looking up the definitions ofwords, even if I was pretty sure
I had the definition down, andthen I started doing the definitions of words

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within the definitions of words and kindof the whole thing. Right, So
I was already living that life forquite a long time before I stumbled into
all of this stuff, right right, right. So by the time I
had stumbled into all this stuff,it was like simple and extremely exciting,

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and it was like it was almostlike the next level for me. It
was the level up point, right, and it was like I felt like
I was ready for this. Itwasn't overwhelming to me, which for most
people it's very overwhelming. Yeah.So so I was already kind of like
advanced by the time I had evengotten to this. I had been I

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had been operating, uh studying probablybetween two to six hours a day,
seven days a week for probably closeto uh seven or eight years before I
had contacted this material. Wow.And so by the time I hit this
material, I was like, oh, yeah, this is going to be

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fun. And I was like agiant wood chipper just shoveling information into the
wood Chipper, And that's why itseems like I went from nothing to a
lot in like ten seconds. Basically, I studied. I started studying this
stuff in September of twenty twenty one, and I had read probably twenty six
books or whatever, and then Ilaunched my original text version on my website

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on March fourteenth of twenty twenty two, so that's only like six months five
months. Right from the outside lookingin, it does look like it happened
overnight. But that's what I noticedabout you once I had learned you had
been in scientology, and just themore you talked about it on that one
show I listened to like it gaveme a whole different perspective on it,

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and you know how it benefited youjust in like what you didn't get from
traditional schooling, you know, wheremost kids, you know, just regurgitate
what they've here and put it downon paper. And you know, I
struggled too in school growing up,and I related to you a lot on
that. So I was fascinated inthe sense of how much you have benefited

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from scientology specifically, which literally preparedyou. I don't think any anything else
could have better at least what yougained from it than scientology did. So
if you could just tell me,like what were your experiences and it initially
and like we're when you were like, okay, I'm staying around, and

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um, this is for me.I was living in Indiana, I had
flunked out of college a second time, and I, uh my mom was
really really sick and she went tothe library. We had taken her to
a bunch of different hospitals, didn'tgo anywhere. She ended up getting a
thyroid surgery just made things worse.She was like really bad, like she

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was going to die in the nexthandful of months if we didn't figure something
out, and uh, she wantedto live. She lost she lost a
lot of trust in the in themedical profession as of all the just all
the incompetency that she was seeing duringthat time period. So she went to
the library, the local library inIndiana, and she just started renting books,

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you know, on every single subjectto health and self improvement and nutrition
and you name it, food,everything everything you can think of, right
Ekartally, Tony Robbins, you nameit. She probably got her hands on
it, you know, in someway, shape or form, right and
m. One of the books thatshe ended up reading was Dionetics, right,

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and she was like blown away byDianetics. And my mom was a
very fast, very very powerful reader. Right. So she said, we're
all going to go to this church. I said, all right, fine.
You know, I didn't have anythinggoing for me. I was I
flunked out of college a second time. And I was sitting there playing like

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Grand Theft Auto three or four orsomething. I don't know, this is
like two thousand four or whatever,what whichever Grand Theft Auto that is probably
three three probably, yeah, anduh and and she took me to the
church and uh, you know,they I said, I want to be
able to read. I can't read. And they said, well, we

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have this basic study manual thing.And then uh I started that course.
And then during that core I wasI was on like the maybe fourteenth or
fifteen page or something like that,and I was looking at it and I
was just like, this is fuckingamazing. I think I may have done
some other smaller courses before that,now that I think about it, But

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but I had been there for maybea couple of weeks or something like that,
going back and forth or a weekand a half something like that,
and then I already knew like,this is this is what I want to
be doing. This is like superbadass. And so I sold everything I
owned, which wasn't much. Itwas like some comic books and some other
things, right, and moved toChicago and I was at the church all

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day every day pretty much. Andthen I did what's called the purification rundown,
which is like a body detox program, which is like the first step
one of the first things that youdo when you start in the church.
There's like a sauna and you dosome running, and you take some nias
in and some other vitamins, andyou have a It flushes out radiation and
drug residue from your body, becausedrug residues and radiation prevent you from being

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able to think clearly and to likerun therapy type processes and be able to
like you know, be quick onyour in your mind and that kind of
a thing. So that's the wholepoint of it, right, And then
I started working for the church shortlyafter that, and then I moved from
Chicago to la to be I waslike, where's the biggest, craziest like

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culture of this religion, Like wherecan I go where there's like the most
people. And they're like, oh, La, LA is where all it's
the largest scientology population in the world. And I said, all right,
I said, I'm moving to LA. I guess I mean you know.
So, So I moved to LAkind of blind, and when I got
here, I was blown away.I mean really, it's like everywhere,

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I mean relative relative to anywhere else, it's literally everywhere. Um, And
we have our own newspapers, wehave our own classified ads, we have
our own networks, we have ourown That's it's pretty wild actually. So
so I came out here in twothousand and five, like the very end

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of two thousand and five, andwork for the church out here, and
was was doing you know, servicesand courses in auditing out here with the
church. But I didn't really startto really like gain a lot of traction
as a student and as a scientologistin terms of actually like successfully applying what

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I was studying and actually being ableto read until like I said, probably
around two thousand and eleven. Andin two thousand and ten, I moved
from LA to New York City towork at the church in New York City.
And it was during that time period. At the very beginning of that
time period is when I started areally buckle down own and say, you

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know, I really want to beable to study like fast and like really
retain the information and like really likeI really focused on that initial desire that
had gotten me into the religion inthe first place, which is wanting to
be able to really study successfully.And that's when I started getting into the
small common words and focusing on that. And then after that point is when

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everything changed, and then I startedto haul ass as a student like big
time. And that's when I startedto do lots and lots and lots of
courses in the church. Prior tothat point, I had done a few
big courses, but they're just reallydifficult because I couldn't really read that well.
So it's like a school in itselfessentially. Yeah, it's all it's
all courses. There's a therapy signwhere you go to a different area in

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the church and you do therapy likespiritual therapy, and then the rest of
it's all just courses, and there'scourses on everything you can possibly think of.
There's a basic course room, andthen there's the academy, which is
professional training. The basic course roomhas courses on finance, courses on how
to raise a happy baby, courseson how to be a leader, leadership

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courses on communication. Success through Communicationscourse where you learn how to talk and
and and elocution and and and thepitch ranges of your voice and and and
saying something over and over again tosomeone who doesn't understand, and like all
this kind of controlling a communication,a social communication, and like all this

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stuff, it's actually a communications course. Um. And I started doing lots
and lots of the more advanced courses, the academy courses like, for example,
uh, we have a whole ethicssection in the church, and I
did a course called the Ethics SpecialistCourse. And then there's also like administrative
executive training that you can do.I did a massive course on that that

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took me like four or five monthsto finish. So there was a lot
of really big courses that I haddone during that time period after I had
really cracked my ability to read.And that's kind of and then after that
point is when I started to buildbusinesses, because then I was studying so

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fast and I was tearing through allthis material, and then I was like,
well, shit, I really wantto try to apply some of this
material. And then I met thisgirl who was a dentist in New York
City and then she wanted to likebuild her practice up, and we started
dating, and then we built thisfucking giant dental practice together. So it's

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kind of like this whole story ofof of trying to read, finally able
to read after five years of tryingand really buckling down, then reading all
this ship, doing all these courses, and then starting to be like,
hey, I want to actually putthis to the ground, put the rubber
of the road. And then whenI started to actually like put the rubber
of the road, I started tohave a lot of successfully fast with the

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dental office. And so that's kindof like the background story on all of
that. And then I came backto Los Angeles in twenty fifteen. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, um,you have quite the interesting story.
Bad Like, there's a lot ofparallels with me. Um. You know,
I know you own the landscaping company. I've been in landscaping for a

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good ten years. Oh wow.And uh and uh, my mom actually
about joined scientology and her early twentiesback in the eighties. Her seventies.
I can't remember, but um,so I found those parallels interesting at least
for me personally. And uh,you know when you were first getting into

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this arena and felt like, okay, well I have no other option at
this point but to get into thisarena and you know, start to do
this research. Um, once youfelt like you were ready as far as
quick witted and could pick up theinformation um on the drop of a dime
and apply it. Um. Howare your peers reacting within the church or

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was it controversial to them just likeeveryone else? Or is this everyone everyone
finds this to be extremely controversial.Yeah, some people. Some people react
really positively to how controversial it is, and some people will react very negatively
to how controversial is You never know. It's like flipping a coin, right.

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I was living with some friends.They kicked me out of the house
because they were just so freaked outby it. I almost lost my job,
one of my jobs because of it. Uh. It's it's it's super
tumultuous. Uh. And and andit was very depressing actually for quite a

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long time. UM. But it'sone of those things where, um,
you you you have to just stepback and you have to say, you
know, you have to make adecision, and it's and it's a decision

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that there is no coming back from. And you already know that. So
it's like, there's this road,and there's this road, and and this
is a one time deal, andyou're gonna choose which one you're gonna take,
and that's it, and you're gonnajust gonna that's gonna be your your
your trajectory for the rest of yourlife. And and I sat down,

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and I looked at that decision,and I looked at the pros and cons
of both sides of that decision,and I made a conscious, knowing decision
to walk in the direction that Idid. So that include that included losing
most of my friends, almost losingmy job. That included, um spending

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over one hundred thousand dollars in researchand marketing. Uh. That included you
know, terrible fear and terror associatedwith thinking that I was going to get
assassinated or arrested. It came withthis whole package deal. And after going

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through all that, and after Imoved into my apartment, this one here,
this is the one that everyone knowsme as. But the thing is
is that I've never lived alone inmy entire life ever. Wow, I've
been I've been flat broke most ofmy life. And when I see flat
broke, I mean like every mealis a struggle, no joke. Yeah,

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because people think like, oh,you're living in Chicago and you're living
in LA and then you're you're partof this expensive church, and then you
were living in New York City inManhattan. It's like, yeah, but
I have hardly had a pot topisson or a window to throw it out
of until I was about thirty threeor thirty four years old. Seriously,
Like, like, I remember whenI first started making like forty two thousand

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dollars a year, and it waslike I felt like I was like Dan
fucking Blizzarion man, I swear toGod, like forty two grand. I
was like, oh my God,like I am because I was so used
to living with like nothing. Ihad an even right before I started making
forty two grand a year, Ihad this this eight hundred dollar motorcycle that

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we spray painted. We got drunkand we spray painted it and it looked
like fucking death. Okay, itwas awesome. Yeah. The nineteen eighty
six Yamaha FC seven fifty. Allthe fairings were taken off of it and
all the wires were just hanging outof it on one side. Even a
lot of motorcycle guys wouldn't even geton it. They're like, fuck that
thing. That thing looks like that'sa death trap. Bro. I'm like,

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hell yeah, brother. And wewe got a twelve pack of newcastles
and we were just like slamming newcastles, and so we took that. We
took the gas tank off and wedid white paint spray candid, and then
we took green peel paint and sprayedthat over top of the white paint while
it was drying, and it createdand it like cracked out, and it

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created this like turtle shell looking effect. Right, Okay, And that's the
that's the motorcycle that I rode aroundon. And it would just I'd be
chilling out a stoplight and it wouldjust die all the time. Even though
we we we tuned the car,we cleaned the car. But I had
a buddy of mine named Christoff andanother buddy of mine named Matt Limpwright,
and they're like high end mechanics,and they helped me clean it and tune

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it as best we could, butit's still it was just an eight hundred
dollar motorcycle. It had ninety fourthousand miles on it, which is like
absolutely insane for a motorcycle, right, And I drove that thing around.
I didn't even own a car,so I'm you know, I'm driving around
getting fifty miles to the gallon andpaying you know, twenty dollars a month
in insurance. And I was livingwith my buddy in this tiny little closet

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of a room for two hundred andfifty bucks a month, forty two thousand
dollars. When you're living a lifelike that and you're used to living like
that, right, that's a lotof money. I'm like, I'm like
jet Skis, gold bars, LikeI'm like these rappers on TV, you
know what i mean. Like that'show I felt, you know what I
mean? Right? Feel that soso you know, it's just again,
it's like I told you before westarted this show, It's it's eighteen years

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that I've been working and then nowall of a sudden it appears as though
I'm an overnight success. But yeah, it's I've been working. I've been
working my ass off since I wasnineteen years old, bro right. Yeah.
And when I say when I sayworking my ass off, when I
say working my ass off, Imean like studying, yeah, or or

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doing some kind of professional activity likemany hours a day, every single day,
seven days a week from the fromfrom when I was nineteen until today
right now. It's exhausting, man, Like, yeah, hearing you describe
how much work and effort went intothe course you you made, and not

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only um, you know, makingit with the intention like I'm gonna make
a lot of money off this,but like I'm doing this, um for
the people that are gonna, youknow, get into this and apply it
for themselves and showing people what I'vedone. So here's the roadmap for you
to do it too. Um.You know what was the motivation behind that

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for you? Because I feel like, do you do? You do?
You sense you had a moral obligationonce you became free um and a state
national UM to uh teach it toeveryone else. Um. That was still
a part of the game. Itwas. It was a lot of things.

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It was. It was that Ihad had a lot of requests because
it was all text base from fromMarch until July right, twenty two,
and everyone on everyone was asking mefor some kind of an audio video presentation
everybody, and I was like,fuck you, Like, this is all
reading based. If you can't reador you won't read, you're not going

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to have any success here anyways,So why bother? That was kind of
like my mindset from March until July, right, But some are along the
way. And just as I wasstudying and that kind of thing, I
just started thinking like, well whatif what if like I make a video
course and it's sort of like createsenough interest and it motivates people enough to

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give them the motivation that they needto go and now read things, right,
And that made sense to me,And I was like, okay,
that makes sense actually, And Ialready had the layout of the course because
my state national three page is anumbered layout exactly how I base my course
off of, right, So Ialready had the outline of the course done
because it was on the damn website, right, And I thought to myself,

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you know, all right, youknow, this is this is what's
you know, I'm a marketing andsales professional and a lot of what you
do and when you're a real proand marketing, a lot of what you
do is you do surveys, survey, surveys, survey, as you ask
a lot of questions, what doyou want, what do you need?
What's missing? You hear the samething over and over and over again.
That becomes what we call a hotbutton, right And in marketing you focus

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on those hot buttons right right.And I had heard this from everybody under
the sun, moon stars, andI'm thinking in my head like, well,
as a marketing professional, this ispretty cut and dry, this is
what people want. So I waslike, all right, I wasn't willing
to do it, but but nowI am. You know, it changed.

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I'd heard it so many times thatit just became like, all right,
I mean this is you know,the people have spoken kind of a
deal, you know what I mean. Yeah. So when I did the
course, I was, I wasit. It was multiple things. So

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first off, it was my lifewas very lonely. I had lost all
my friends, I my relationship withmy boss at the at the at one
of my jobs had gone basically gone. I mean, the only reason why
he I think the only reason whyhe didn't let me go is because I
was just I'm just so fucking goodat what I do that the whole place

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would have just instantaneously exploded to somedegree. I think if I, if
I wasn't in that condition at myjob, I would have probably lost my
job. It's the only reason whyI didn't lose my job, I think,
I think, right, yeah.Uh. And And like all the

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systems and the way that the wholeoffice is structured, and the sales lines
and the and the marketing lines andthe website and the email lists and everything,
it's it's all based Everything that Ido in one stupid fuck is all
based off of the dental office thatI run that was like my prototype for
everything, Right, So all thesame systems and all the same things that

(32:14):
you see on one stupid Fuck orthat you see in my landscaping company,
it all started in the dental office. So the whole dental office is literally
like my manufacture. It's the wholestructure of it is literally like my creation.
Right. So it's not just thatI'm really really good at my job,
it's that I literally created the entirestructure of how the whole thing operates,

(32:37):
which I then duplicated in these otherareas. And it's really effective.
So it's one of those things wherepart of it, part of it was
loneliness. Uh, you know,it's like, all right, if I
want other people to be able toexperience what I'm experiencing and to study what

(33:02):
I'm studying, and half people totalk to and half people that aren't so
freaked out about this information, I'mgoing to have to make the information more
available and make it fun and makeit exciting and give it to people and
try to create a new culture.Basically, that was the first thing.
The second thing was in scientology.There's lots of lectures where you listen to

(33:24):
Larn Hubbard talk about things, right, I mean there's thousands of them.
There's a whole library and every singlechurch. Right. I am one of
the only people walking the earth thatI have actually listened to literally almost every
single lecture that Elar and Hubbard hasever recorded in the entire history of the
entire religion. There's probably literally maybefive or ten people walking in the entire

(33:50):
earth that's in that category. Right. Not only that, but I had
spent a tremendous amount of time listeningto Dan Kennedy, Dan S Kennedy.
Dan S. Kennedy is the guywho partnered with Russell Brunson, the guy
who created click funnels. Dan S. Kennedy is basically the Russell Brunson of
the eighties and nineties. Okay,so so he's fucking hilarious. He has

(34:15):
this whole branding which is called NobsMarketing, and it's got the ball and
it's got a big circle that linethrough it like Ghostbusters. It's like,
no bullshit, that's the whole.That's his whole, it's his whole branding.
And he is so funny and hishis his his presence and the way
that he presents himself and his umhis public speaking is is just I loved

(34:39):
it. I remember I found thisone this one event that he had done
and it's like a three and ahalf or four and a half hour event.
And I'm not even joking, man, I found that ship in like
twenty seventeen, and I would justlisten to it over and over and over.
I'm sure you can find it onYouTube. Uh. And and I

(35:01):
must have listened to that four hourpresentation from him, I'm not even kidding,
man, like between probably eighty andone hundred and fifty times. Wow.
And I just I just loved theway he presented. I just loved
it, man. And then Ifound Dan asked Kennedy or Dans Penia.

(35:22):
Okay, Dan Penya, Yea,he's the he's the Quantum Leap Advantage guy,
the QLA guy, and his bookhe's hardcore, right, his book
is your first one hundred million right, Dan Penya is fucking He blew my
mind just as much as Elaron Hubbard, and and Dan asked Kennedy, right,

(35:42):
just in a different way. Itwas a different a different way,
right, Like like Dan as Kennedyis like marketing and sales blowing my mind.
Larn Hubbard is like, uh likespirituality and philosophy blowing my mind.
And then Dan Dennis Penia was blowingmy mind on like a whole other level.
It was like a like a wayof thinking about the world. It

(36:04):
was a way of operating with otherpeople. It was like it was like
so far above anything I had everbeen exposed to. Because he's like,
he's like, you how to howto grab hold of a company, buy
it out, bulk it up asquickly as possible, and then sell it
and make one hundred million dollars inlike four months, is like his whole

(36:25):
that's his whole platform, right.And he has a book that he gives
away for free, and he hasbeen giving it away for free for a
long time. And he has afree audio book as well, called Your
First one hundred Million, and it'sliterally no joke, no bullshit, how
to make your first one hundred milliondollars, like, like literally no joke,

(36:45):
like the the game plan on howto make your first one hundred million
dollars. Right, Yeah, AndI've probably read that book or listen to
the audiobook version of that book,for sure. I've read that book more
than any of the book I've everread my entire life, probably thirty two
thirty five times. The only otherbook that I've ever read that much is

(37:06):
um The Alabaster Girl from Zanparian,which I've read probably, you know,
fifteen, twenty twenty two times somethinglike that. Those are the only two
books that I've ever really read morethan once because they're just they're just so
good. They're just so they're they'renot even earthly like Your First one hundred

(37:27):
Million and The Alabaster Girl are arelike they're they're they're like outworldly, they're
they're so good that they're not eventhey're not even a part of the human
race. It's not it's almost likeit's almost like having access to something from
another planet. Um so on.On the website, uh, Dan Panya

(37:51):
dot co dot UK I think isthe website because he's in he's in the
United Kingdom. He has he hasclips and he does this. He has
a he has a full blown castlein Scotland and he does this once a
month seminar that's like thirty five thousanddollars to sign up and you have to
book it like two three years inadvance. Uh and and he basically does

(38:15):
this this this seminar, it's calledthe QLA Quantum Leap Advantage Seminar. And
he has these clips from all thedifferent seminars. Right, it's a lot
of content, like fuck tons ofcontent. Yeah. And I spent probably
two years of my life where allI did was just listened to Penya.

(38:37):
So it's like it's like ten yearsof our and Hubbard, like two years
of Dan has Kennedy and then liketwo and a half three years of Dan
Penya. Right and so and solike my my my speaking and the way
that I talk and the way thatI that I present myself is sort of

(38:57):
like an amalgamation of those three speers, right right, right, And I
had and I had sort of alwaysbeen like interested in in in in in
creating that and having that and puttingtogether like a public speaking ability, right,
So there was also a lot ofthat too that was infused into the

(39:20):
course. It was sort of like, uh, you know, like how
like it's almost like a public speakingtype of a deal because because not a
lot of people know this, butbut I was unwilling to reshoot any of
those videos. All those videos arefirst shots. Wow. I never ever,
ever, ever reshot any of thosevideos. And some of the early

(39:42):
ones, I fucked up a coupleof things on the video and I was
like, fuck that, I'm notredoing it. Like I'm just not doing
it, you know, right,So, um, everything I do is
one shot, and that's my It'sit's almost like my own personal challenge to
myself. Right. If I can'tget it right on the first time,
I have no business doing it inthe first place. It's so good man,

(40:08):
it keeps you accountable. And yeah, you know it's like to edit
shit out or like, um,have to redo it over and over again.
Until it's perfect. At the sametime, it's like you're taken away
from the magic of it. Inmy opinion, you know, exactly exactly
right. Yeah, in a worldfull of fake perfection, literally realistic imperfection

(40:34):
becomes the greatest thing that's ever happened. So, you know, I basically
just leaned into that. I waslike, all right, you know,
um, and it's been a bigsuccess, you know, And so yeah
it was. But but the thingis is like, obviously being a scientologist,
there is a karmatic aspect of scientologyand Buddhism are very similar. People

(40:57):
don't realize that until they actually lookat both of them, though, I
call, wow, these are reallysimilar, right, um? Right,
So uh, it's one of thosethings where I knew everything was going to
be fine and I was gonna gettaken care of eventually if I just followed
down this path. But but really, truly, it was just it was

(41:19):
just a thing like I see mycountry going to ship and it's like,
dude, like somebody's got to doit. I have to do something.
I had this information, there's noyou know, I at just at just
I don't know, man, Iwanted I love sharing it. I love.
I love seeing other people have thesame realizations and the same like oh

(41:42):
my god moments and the same massivebreakthrough in the life that I had,
right and I don't and I don'tsee why, Like it doesn't make sense
to me why people would hog thisinformation, Like it doesn't make sense to
me, and I and and tobe honest with you, I've a lot
of people tell me that like awhole billionaires. And I've had the opportunity
to talk to several billionaires. Theyknow like one tenth of a percent of
this information. I met one billionaireone time who knew the definition of the

(42:05):
word person. Wow. So thething is is, it's like, you
know, I've met billionaires, andI'm very good at playing dumb and fishing
around and baiting them into trying tocheck and see what they know and what
they don't. And a lot ofthem don't know this information. And I
and I recently had a banking relationshipwith my bank where I was telling my

(42:28):
I told my main banker that Ineeded like a private executive banking relationship.
I hooked up with a private executivebanking guy. Blew his fucking mind.
He's like, bro, I've beendoing this for eighteen years, Like,
who the fuck are you? Bro? And I literally like he literally told
me. By the end of thecall, he's like, dude, I
feel like my skull has been melted, right. And he's like, I

(42:51):
need to do some background checks onthis shit, right. And he called
me back like like the next dayor two days later, and he had
like God himself in my bank.He's like, I found the highest level
guy I could possibly get on thephone with. He's in Arizona. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I goton the phone with him, really really
passionate dude, really really knowledgeable dude. But but we were talking about promisory

(43:15):
notes and he's like, oh yeah, He's like promisory notes. I'm like,
look what I'm trying to do isI'm trying to securitize my promissory notes
that I have from my landscaping companyand exchange them for Federal Reserve notes.
And he's like yeah, well,blah blah blah and this and that.
He's like, they have to beattached to a performance, and then they
have to be underwritten, and theyhave to be there has to be an
insurance policy and he's like so excitedand like, past, yeah, I

(43:38):
have to do this and do that. He was like, yeah, yeah,
they'll do this. He's like he'slike he's like yeah, it just
doesn't really you know. And he'slike, how many promisch promissory notes do
you have? I was like atwo point five billion and he's like oh,
He's like no, man, He'slike, you know, this kind
of a thing, like we almostnever have anybody that comes to us with
this kind of a thing, butlike a micro transaction version of something like

(43:58):
this would be like half a billiondollars. And he's like and then I
started asking more question. He's likeyeah. He's like you know, like
your care credit or something like that, where you have like tons and tons
and tons of promissory notes that theyare coming in and then you can like
securitize them and you can like underwritethem and ensure them and blah blah blah.
And he kept talking about like thepromissory note in relation to the performance

(44:20):
of the promissory note, right,And I kept stopping at him and stopping
him. He's so passionate, andhe just kept going on and on and
on explaining things to me. Really, really a lot of heart, a
lot of heartless soul on this guy, right right, And I kept stopping
him. I said, I said, bro, I said, that's not
the definition of a promissory note.Promissory note and performance are two entirely different

(44:40):
things. I said. When youlook in UCC three Uniform Commercial Code,
Section three, the definition of apromissory note is a written, unconditional promise
to pay. It's just those threethings. It's so simple. It's got
nothing to do with performance. It'sgot nothing to do with actually paying the
thing back. It's got nothing todo with the terms. It's got nothing

(45:01):
to do with insurance getting an insurancepolicy on it. It's got nothing to
do with any of that. It'sjust it's literally by itself. Even even
and I told him, I said, even the old ones that are already
completed and the performance is already completed, were where they were going to pay
at the beginning of the job.They're going to pay in the middle of
the job, and then they weregoing to make a final payment when the

(45:22):
job was completed, which is theway that our job is structured. Even
the ones that are already done andcompleted from from months ago, that original
note or promised to pay is stilla security. It's still a promise to
pay. As per ucc three,I'm trying to secure it tize the note
itself completely disrelated from the performance.And I'm telling you, this guy he

(45:46):
just had never ever had anyone tellhim this. He's like, Bro,
I've been doing this for twenty nineyears and I've just never had anyone talk
like this. Mind blown. AndI said, and I said, Look,
here's the difference between me and you, out to the phone with both
these bankers at the same time asa conference call, right right, And

(46:08):
I said, differpoint me and youis that you've been doing this forever.
You've been around lot of people andthey've been telling you what to do all
this time, right, I said. I said that the difference point that
and me is that I'm just thisvirgin, fucking idiot. I literally said
that over the phone. I waslike, this virgin fucking idiot that all
I'm doing is just studying the sourcematerial in the United States Code and I

(46:30):
don't have anybody around me telling meanything. I'm just studying the code and
looking up a definition of the words. So even though I don't have the
experience that you have. I probablyhave a really unique perspective because it's it's
so pure in relation to the factthat it's just the source material and nothing
else. And he actually agree withme. He said, yeah, you
know, honestly, you're right andI and by the end of the phone

(46:52):
call he had gotten a little contentiousbecause he just kept going back to,
Oh, there's the performance, andthere's this underwrite it, and it's like
this, and he was so likelike passionate and gung ho and like he
was so like enthusiastic about the processand the different aspects of the process and

(47:14):
how banking works, and he lovedexplaining it and he wanted to explain it
to me, and he was havinga blast explains almost like Wow, I
never get the chance to really talkabout all this stuff with somebody. How
cool, this is so fun.That's the kind of that's the way.
The conversation kind of went right,and I just had to keep stopping him.
I was like, hold on asecond, Hold a second. I
was like, none of that matters. It's written, it's unconditional, and

(47:39):
it's a promise to pay. AndI was like, I want to securitize
the note. I don't want tosecuritize the note in relation to the performance.
I don't want to under write anyof it. I don't want to
involve insurance company. They don't knowany of that. All I want to
do is, as per the FederalReserve Act, Section sixteen, Part two,
I want to take my promisory notethat I have, and I want

(47:59):
to exchange my promissory note for phasevalue for Federal Reserve notes. It's to
me, it's like the simplest thingin the world. Right. And one
of the terms he kept saying wasthat the federal reserve window federal reserve window.
And I like talking to bankers becausebecause you learn how you should be
talking when you talk to bankers,right. And the term that this guy,

(48:21):
this god of banking, kept usingwas federal reserve window, better a
reserve window, better a reserve window. And I realized during the conversation what
he's talking about. He's talking aboutliterally that access point between the bank and
the Federal Reserve where they exchange notesfor Federal reserve notes, promissory notes for
Federal reserve notes. And I'm sittingthere and I'm like, God damn.

(48:43):
I was like that's what it's called. I didn't say that during the call.
I just in my head, I'mthinking, like, all right,
that's what they call it. SoI'm thinking, so I asked him,
I said, what's stopping anybody fromtaking just straight up pure ass promissory notes,
going to the Federal Reserve window andexchanging them for Federal Reserve notes?
And I brought up and I readthe Federal Reserve Acts, Section sixteen,

(49:04):
Part two, and I was like, look like, according to the Fed
Reserve Act, they accept absolutely anyapplication to exchange absolutely any note for Federal
Reserve notes. They say right inthere. And he was just like,
that's not the way it works,and like he was just kind of like,
you know, I really don't thinkthat we're going to be interested in
something like that. And he justand then he kind of like at the

(49:29):
end he lost a lot of theenthusiasm, and he kind of like at
the very end of the conversation,he was like he was like, you
know, even Wesley Snipes signed histax documents stating that he knew to the
best of his ability that those thatthose documentations were right. He's like,
this sounds like something that you couldget into a lot of trouble for And

(49:52):
I'm telling you, I know people, I know people really fucking well.
This guy did not know about this. Wow. He thought that all promissory
notes literally, I fucking asked himstraight up. I was like, do
you do you think that all promissorynotes have to be attached to some sort
of performance? And he told mestraight up yes, yes, and that's

(50:14):
not true, right, Yeah,they don't even know it at the highest
levels. And he's like, Idon't know how high this dude is,
but I'm telling you, I havea feeling he's he's at the very top
echelon of someone you can even geton the phone. Wow, twenty nine
years in banking. Wow, hewasn't even in California. The guy had

(50:37):
to go to Arizona to find someonewho could talk to me. So,
so, um, do you feelthe judges and lawyers the percentages are higher
across those, uh not lawyers.Lawyers don't know jack ship. Lawyers are
worse than street sweepers, man Um. Judges probably, yes, higher percentage

(51:02):
than lawyers or bankers. Bankers andlawyers are very very low on the on
the totem pole. Yeah, judges, judges are probably the higher level I
would say, right, or highestlevels of law enforcement and government agencies.

(51:28):
I'm not even sure about that.I'm not even sure about that. Yeah,
I would say I would say probablyjust judges would be the only thing
I can think of that would probablyfit that category. Yeah. Well,
because you know, if for anyonewho's been in this arena for a while
and seeing different videos or you know, different angles took um, you know,

(51:52):
I'm sure you recall the the guythat made the judge bowancourt and the
judge walked out of the court roomand seeing stuff like that. Um,
there's a lot of that kind ofstuff. Is that what we're talking about
here? As far as well,there's there's the deal with the thing,
the thing that I don't I don'tever go into the courtroom. I don't

(52:14):
never have to. I'm a masterof never making it into the courtroom.
But I will never probably have towalk into a courtroom ever. Um,
hopefully I don't want to rum theThere there the part of this that's so
empowering. As you start studying alittle bit of this, then you study

(52:37):
more of it, and then youstart to realize as you go deeper and
deeper and deeper and deeper. There'slike eight million ways of doing all this
shit, right, There's so manydifferent ways of doing it that eventually it
becomes literally like a fucking joke.Right, Debts become a joke. Federal
reserve notes become a joke, Statementsand bills become jokes. Uh, tickets

(53:01):
and and and and legal related situationsall become a joke. It all just
becomes a fucking joke, literally,right, like almost like a stand up
comedy routine. Literally, so monopolymoney. Yeah, So up until that

(53:22):
point, up until that point,it's very serious, very very serious.
Oh my god, it's very veryserious. Right. And then and then
as you continue and continue and continueand continue and continue, as long as
you focus on getting to the nextlevel, you will hit a point where
it's just such a fucking joke.So when you were first starting out with
this man and like getting your paperwork, all your contracts corrected and um,

(53:46):
you know, reclaiming who you are. Um. You know, I hear
a lot of talk of um.Like there's spiritual components to this, and
it's essentially connected to the supreme Godor what's above the Supreme Court. Like
man can't uh, you know,UM make law and another man type of

(54:09):
thing. UM, And that's onlyGod's place or um source place, whatever
word you want to call that.UM. Did you feel that was the
case for you? And when youwere first getting started as well? UM?
One was the moment when you werelike, Okay, I'm in now
I'm safe, or I've succeeded.And what was your first big success?

(54:36):
Um? The first big success wasprobably just getting my passport done, getting
that in the mail, and thenalso, um, just just getting rid
of all the corporations and LLCs andstuff and opening up private, irrevocable trusts
and just knowing that my company issafe from the Employment Development Department. That

(55:00):
was probably my first big, hugemonster success. And then after that it
was discharging a fourteen thousand dollars insuranceaudit that I had never bothered to fuck
with. That was the next bigsuccess. And then the next big success
after that was discharging one hundred andseventy eight thousand dollars in credit card debt

(55:22):
with American Express. Wow. Andthen the next the next big success was
discharging tons and tons and tons ofcars wow. Endlessen, I mean,
it was just pouring in. Atone point in time, we were just
we were getting titles. With withthat, we're just had cling titles of

(55:45):
no lean holders. We were justgetting. If you go on my Instagram
and you go back like two,three, four, five, six months,
it's just titles. Wow, titletitle, title, title, title
title for like months, just titles, titles, titles, title. I
mean we were just getting, uhyou know, my business partner, like
everyone I know, we were justcar titles, were just raining from the

(56:07):
sky. Wow. And now we'restarting to get into houses and properties and
and that's kind of where have youdone? Student loans? It's easy.
It's so easy. I wouldn't evenneed to like it's not something else one
the easier ones. Oh yeah,super easy. Um well when unsecured,

(56:31):
unsecured is like so easy, soeasy. It's secured that's a little bit
more complicated. So I think youbroke it down, like you know,
getting that first success of getting yournew passport, and um like, now

(56:52):
that you're out like one one more, you deciding like, Okay, I
can get back in and use itto my advantage type of way of going
about it. A lot of whatI do and the way that I think
is all based off of sun Zoo. UM. For example, I was
on a show yesterday with a wholebunch of different people, big huge hosts

(57:15):
from different shows that I had beenon. It was a multi show thing
that we're gonna actually be releasing verysoon. And there was another guy on
there named Andrew, and he's like, oh, well, we need to
like not be a part of thesystem and we need to like disconnect from
the system and like all this kindof thing. And I'm just sitting there
thinking, like, you know,sun Zoo says, know thy enemy there

(57:38):
it is, so you know,he says, don't go into don't go
into battle until you've already won thebattle. You know, the the you
know, uh, you know,wars are won before the wars begin kind
of a thing. He talks alot about that, Right, if you
know their stuff and you know alltheir ship and all they're they're they're inner

(58:00):
working, so well, there's nothingto really be afraid out. You're no
longer oppressed. You're no longer oppressedby that oppressive system. Um, you're
out of the victim programming. You'reout of the victim programming. And it's
it's it's, uh, you knowthe only way you're going to get infinite

(58:22):
promissory notes, infinite reserve notes isby re entering the system. There's not
really any other benefits. That's prettymuch the only the only real benefit,
right um. But infinite money ain'ttoo bad as a benefit, you know
what I mean? An infinite moneyand anything you want for free. Basically,

(58:44):
that's that. That's what it wasthat drew me into re entering into
the matrix, um, because becauseyou realize that when you when you when
you have a car or a mortgage, joey, you're buying something and you
sign a credit application, the applicationitself is a promissory note, right right.

(59:07):
That promissory note in law has theexact same value as whatever's written on
it. So it's a promissory notefor a sixty thousand dollar car over six
years, plus a insurance thing,plus an extended warranty, plus this,
plus that, and it comes outto you know, eighty six thousand dollars

(59:28):
after six years. Promissory note thatapplication is worth eighty six thousand foot or
reserve notes. When you understand that, and you understand basically it's very very
simple, because the thing is thatthere's a word endorsement, which is start
it's I and D R S ME N T not e N, and

(59:52):
it's banking. It's a banking termendorsement. Right. The definition of the
word endorsement is a command or cificinstructions as to the releasing an exchange of
a security or instrument or promisory note. When you start to study what an
endorsement is and the different types ofendorsement and how you can endorse it in

(01:00:15):
different ways, you realize that youcan literally sign the credit application in a
way where you tell them that allthey can do is take the credit application,
take it to the Federal Reserve window, exchange that credit application at face
value for federal or reserve notes.Take those Federal reserve notes and bring them

(01:00:37):
back to you and place them onyour account to discharge the account. You
can do that. It's called arestrictive endorsement. When you sign the credit
application like this, what you're doingis you're gifting or general releasing the instrument.
You're saying, here, you gobolways, do whatever you want with

(01:00:58):
that. What do they do?They go and they exchange it for federal
reserve notes, and then they keepthe money and then now you're paying,
and now you're paying a second loanwith federal reserve notes. When you restrictively
endorse the instrument, they have absolutelyno choice except to go and exchange the

(01:01:20):
value of that credit application for federalreserve notes, bring those federal reserve notes
right back and put them on theaccount, to discharge the account and close
out the account. So what doesthat mean? It means you can get
a house, or a plane ora car by walking in, signing and
endorsing the instrument, getting the keys, walking out, and never making a
payment ever. Again, Wow's andthat's where our research is right now.

(01:01:49):
And I love this because again,you know, for a long time,
for like a year and a half, I was involved in IRS forms and
then ten ninety nine A and thenthis and that. No one's having any
successes, and it's so complicated.This is so simple, and it's it's
exactly the way it works. Itdoesn't really require anyone to approve anything.

(01:02:13):
You're you're the one in the driver'sseat. And I like that kind of
stuff. I like like to cutall the bullshit out, cut all the
people out, cut all the fuckingapproval points out, make it as simple
and as a to b as possible, right like boom boom right. And
I feel like when you learn thisand you learn banking, and you learn
endorsements and you learn securities, it'sa game changer. It's a game changer

(01:02:36):
because then the only right now wherewe're at right now and in my movement,
my movement, is people are goingin, they're restrictively endorsing the instrument,
and then they're being denied. Uhyou know the fact that that they're
not accepting this instrument right which isn'ttrue because they never give the instrument back.

(01:02:59):
That's the part. But the thingis that right now or at the
point now where where everyone in thismovement can go in and restrictively endorse an
instrument, And that's that's without doinguh the other paperwork first and ending those
contracts you don't need to do.You can, you can you can start
restrictively endorsing your instruments right now today. Wow, you don't need to be

(01:03:21):
a national, you don't need toexpatriate your citizenship. You don't need to
do absolutely any of that. Ithas nothing to do what they need that
expatriating your citizenship and becoming a nationaland getting your passport and doing all that
stuff. It gives you a lotof additional protections in law, to the
point where they literally can't fucking touchyou no matter what. Uh. So
you are like kind of putting yourselfout there a little bit more if you're

(01:03:45):
doing a lot of this financial restrictiveendorsement type stuff without doing that. But
you don't have to do it.And uh, can you explain for the
listeners who aren't familiar, like whatthe United it means legal and legal terms,
and why you had decided to revokethat status and become a state national.

(01:04:09):
Yeah. So if you look up, if you look up twenty eight,
are you most see audio listeners foryour show? Yeah? Okay,
So if you go on Google,you don't need to be a lawyer or
anything. If you go on Google, your type in twenty eight space USC,
which stands for United States Code Spacethree thousand and two, and you
go down to subsection fifteen, itsays there and I'll just read it fifteen

(01:04:38):
USC. Oh. When you typein fifteen USC three thousand and two,
Cornell University is my favorite one tolook at, you can get into subsection
fifteen. Uh, let's see here. Oh, I'm sorry twenty eight USC.
Three thousand and two. Sorry,And you're gonna go down to subsection

(01:05:03):
fifteen, and it says United Statesmeans and it says a federal corporation definition
a right. So all it didwas they created a corporation and they named
that corporation United States, right.And if you want to find out,
now, the first question is whereis that corporation located. You're gonna type

(01:05:27):
in UCC, which stands for UniformCommercial Code Space nine dash three zero seven
Cornell University. They're gonna go downto subsection h A isn't henry, and
it's gonna say location of United States. It's going to say the United States
is located in the District of Columbia. So the United States is a corporation

(01:05:53):
and that corporation is located in thedistrict of Columbia. Now, wow,
you're going to go to four twoUSC. Ninety one O two forty two
USC ninety one O two. Subsectioneighteen is the definition of United States citizens.

(01:06:17):
When you look up the definition ofUnited States citizen, you're going to
see that it can be a corporation, a partnership, an entity of governments,
any other entity you're going to seethat it's not just human beings that
can be United States citizens, right, And then you clear up the word
citizen in Black's Law, and thenit says, you know, someone or

(01:06:44):
something that gives dominion over to anotherzone or entity in exchange for protections of
their rights and privileges. And thenvery very rapidly, before you know it,
you got on this rabbit hole,and you realize that the United States
citizen is someone who lives in theDistrict of Columbia, who isn't an American,
and who is an employee or officialof the foreign corporation called the United

(01:07:05):
States. And that's sort of likethe whole it's crazy nightmare in a super
small nutshell. I mean, mycourse of my material obviously breaks all that
down a lot. That's a lotof what I talk about is this area,
right, So what's the other option. The other option is located in
eight USC one one zero one,subsection A twenty one, and we're going

(01:07:31):
to go down to A twenty one. A twenty one says the term national
means a person owing permanent allegiance toa state. And then recently we've been
going down that whole rabbit hole,and like, that's a long rabbit hole

(01:07:56):
that continuals continues to get deeper anddeeper and deeper, because then you realize
this word state and the word nationbasically mean the same thing. And people
always think that the word nation meanssome kind of land mass, and then
that's that's sort of this is sortof where that a lot of the research
is right now, because the termnation is not a landmask and I'm actually

(01:08:19):
going to Yeah, what's that nition? I'm gonna show. I'm gonna read
this to you guys. This isfrom Black Slow fourth edition, which you
can download off my website for free. Um and which nation, which is
pretty wild? Second here, I'malmost there. Nation, nation, nationality,

(01:08:53):
either word nation or state kind ofmeans the same thing, right um
nation so um um. A peopleor aggregation of men existing in the form

(01:09:21):
of an organized jural society, usuallyinhabiting a distinct portion of the earth a
whole lot of seconds. Mm hmmmmm. A nation is an aggregation of men

(01:09:53):
speaking the same language, having thesame customs, and endowed with certain moral
quan qualities which distinguish them from othergroups of a like nature. Wow,
Um, that changes some things.Yeah, see Sue m you goal.

(01:10:27):
If you type in the h whatis what is the legal definition of a
nation? Question mark? Uh.It says on Wikipedia, which isn't the
best thing in the world, butit says under etymology and terminology it says

(01:10:47):
Black Slaw Dictionary defines a nation asthe following um from the fourteenth century.
It says a large group of peoplehaving a common an origin, language,
and tradition, and usually constituting apolitical entity. So the thing about nation

(01:11:13):
or state is it doesn't actually meana landmass. And that's kind of like
the most interesting breakthrough that we've hadrecently, and that's kind of where a
lot of the research is now becauseif you go back to eight USC one
zero one, the term national meansa person owing permanent allegiance to a state

(01:11:36):
That same exact area eight USC onesubsection twenty three is the most mind blowing
fucking thing ever. So subsection twentythree, which is right underneath that what
I just read, says the termnaturalization means the conferring of nationality of a

(01:11:57):
state upon a person after birth byany means whatsoever. Wow, So what
that means and we've already tested itit's already done. Deal. You can
confer nationality upon yourself through what's callednaturalization, which is literally just saying your

(01:12:29):
nationality like literally, I'm not evenkidding, like like like you go in
front of a fucking notary and youswear under oath that you're that you have
the nationality of of of Umpa Lumpa, Right, I'm literally not kidding.
You actually are now a national ofthe nation called Umpa Loompa, which is

(01:12:51):
like, which is like batshit insane, right, But this is this is
this is where we're at. Sonow what we're looking at is we have
things like for all the people whohaven't seen slow Jamistan, has anybody who
seen slow Jamistan? Have you seenthat? I haven't. So if you
go on Instagram, there's this guycalled the Sultan of slow Jamistan. And

(01:13:15):
if you go on Instagram, it'srun outside of La. It's like three
hours east of La. This dudebought a little unincorporated plot of land and
he created his own micro nation calledthe Republic of slow Jamistan. And he
dresses up in this crazy ss greenoutfit with all these badges and land yards,
and he makes him look like he'sa general of fifty years of experience,

(01:13:39):
and he drives around and these blackedout SUVs and shit, and it's
all just a big joke. There'sonly two rules to becoming a citizen of
slow Jamistan, and there's like theissue passports, and there's like tons and
tons and tons of people on thewebsite and on their Instagram that are becoming
citizens of slow Jamistan. They onlyhave two rules. Rule number one is

(01:14:02):
when you're eating string cheese, youhave to actually pull the string cheese off
of the string cheese. If youjust bite into the string cheese, you're
not qualified for citizenship for slow Jamistan. That's rule number one. Rule number
two. Rule number two is youcan't wear crocs within the territorial boundaries of
slow Jamistan, which is this tiny, little unincorporated area right this guy is

(01:14:27):
issuing passports. Wow, he's onGoogle Maps. He's literally no joke,
a full blown legal micro nation,and he's driving around calling himself the Sultan
of slow Jamistan making jokes. He'son Channel seven news, Channel five news,
Channel nine News in La. He'sall over the place and he's just
cracking jokes. He's got a bodyguardthat comes with him and he's got a

(01:14:50):
fucking squirt gun and this ship isabsolute, absolutely fucking brilliant. Every single
person listening to this has got tocheck out Jamastan on fucking Instagram. This
shit is the future. I'm tellingyou. Micro nations that are just all

(01:15:13):
fun and games and light and jokingand exciting and making you laugh and making
you have a good time. Thisis the future of humanity. I'm telling
you. I'm telling you this iswhere I'm going, because this is exactly
where I'm going, right. Andthe thing is is that, um,
you confer nationality of state upon yourself. As per aduasy Win one zero one

(01:15:41):
Subsesion twenty three, the definition ofa state is a group of people or
whatever that have common language, commonpolitical whatever. It's not landlocked. Does
this tie in the state assemblies thenor it's it's it's beyond that. Because
the thing is that is that Californiais just an idea, right as per

(01:16:05):
as per of the United States Code, California is just an idea. It's
not land based. I've found absolutelyno evidence that a nation or state is
based off of land. Because Iwas thinking about buying It's in land,
I was like, fuck, doI even need to know? The answer
is no. I've found absolutely noevidence to prove the fact that to declare

(01:16:30):
state nationality on yourself of any typerequires any sort of land mass at all.
All it is is just a fuckingidea, bro. It's just an
idea. Wow. So so micronationsor micro states or states, it's just
an idea. You and your buddieswho drink beers and hang out in the

(01:16:53):
porch can have a micronation. Wow. It's not simple. So when you
have a micronation, there's there's sectionsof the United States Code, like,
for example, h in USC eleventhat define what a foreign government is.
So now we get into international andforeign relations. H in USC eleven is

(01:17:17):
the definition of foreign government. Sowhen you become a micro nation, now
you're a foreign government because the definitionof the United States is inside the district
of Columbia only, right, Soyou're you're no longer part of the United
States. You're a micro nation outsideof the United States. There's just a
fucking idea, right, And itsays here the term of foreign government includes

(01:17:39):
any government, faction, or bodyof insurgents within a country with which the
United States, which means the Districtof Columbia is at peace irrespective of recognition
by the United States. So whatthat means is this is why, like,
you know, that's why I gottell you what this guy on the

(01:18:00):
show with yesterday and I just didn'treally vibe with him super well. I
mean, he's a good guy.But that's why I vibe with slow Jamistan
so much, right because it's likethis dude is so fucking not hostile,
bro, Like, he is havinga fucking part. This is a party.

(01:18:24):
He is having, like a bigass house party, and everybody's invited.
Bro, that's it. That's theslow Jamistan is. It's a fucking
house party. Come come, that'sparty with the fucking sultan. Bro.
You know what I mean? Literallyright right? And and it's genius because
the thing is is that in theUnited States Code, they literally if you're
at peace and you create a micronation, which you literally just confer on yourself.

(01:18:46):
Right, I'm the micronation of Slojamastan. That's all you do, and
boom, now you're the micro nationof Slajamastan. It's that fucking easy.
And then as long as you're apiece, they don't need to officially recognize
you and you're a foreign government,to the point where it's so insane.
You could have a micronation tomorrow.Wow. You put together an affidavit and

(01:19:08):
you get it notarized that says thatyou are now the micronation of ascension of
the Chessmen, and you mail itto I don't even know, the Department
of the Interior or the Department ofthe Secretary of State or something like that,
or you mail it to a wholebunch of different people. That's it
as for the USC, as faras I can tell, right, you
know, I mean, I feellike, I feel like, if you're

(01:19:28):
going to do that, you shouldput a little information in there, you
know, like what is the culture, what is the political idea, what
is the what is the what isthe language, what is the what is
this nation or state composed of?Because the Department of the Interior is all
about relationships between the corporation called UnitedStates and the tribes and nations and states

(01:19:53):
that are within the fifty States,including California, which technically would be a
state or nation, but you havea bunch of other states and nations within
California as well. So it's likethe Department of the Interior. If you're
going to mail them information about thefact that you're creating a micronation, they're
gonna want to know what language areyou speaking, what are you doing,

(01:20:15):
what are you thinking, and howare you operating and most importantly are you
at peace? Right? Well,it reminds me of you know, like
plant Medicine church as Ayahuasca churches thatyou know are legally operating based on their
religious beliefs and claiming that as youknow, a clause or I guess what

(01:20:40):
would be the legal term to getaround those laws that would prohibit them from
using their sacred sacrament to them atleast. Yeah, the problem, the
problem that's occurring in America is thatpeople are listed as US citizens and their
companies are listed as companies that arelocated in the District of Columbia and a

(01:21:03):
lot of my course. You've donemy course, right, I'm I'm working
on starting that. I've I've beensuper busy late. I've just discovered you,
like two three weeks ago, soI've been taken a lot in just
on my course. My course coversall this in great detail, but basically,
like there's there's the confusion is isthat when you're listened as a US

(01:21:30):
citizen and you haven't conferred nationality ofa state upon yourself. The definition of
US citizen, as we've already covered, is a person or entity or thing
that is in the district of Columbia. Right, so so so so there's
there's there's multiple angles to this,right. But but but it's like,

(01:21:53):
Okay, you can say to yourself, they tricked me. You can say
to yourself, they did this.You can say, yes, yes,
you can. Uh. They're alsoconfused. You're confused, and they're confused.
So so everyone's confused. Okay,Uh. They operate off of these
codes as though they're the Bible fullblown. Right, So we have people

(01:22:17):
who are walking into the passport officeand just conferring diplomatic status onto themselves,
and they're getting diplomatic passports issued.I mean, I say that a bit
prematurely because we're we're just now submittingthese things and and we're just now getting
them put into the processing center.But I'm telling you, like, with

(01:22:39):
what we know, I'm telling youthere's no fucking way they're going to deny
these things. Absolutely, that's goingto change the game. Man. And
and the thing is, it's it'swell, it's it's not even that though,
it's it's it's it's it's so stupidand simple, it's unbelievable. I
mean, what we're talking about isso so, so far beyond what anyone

(01:23:04):
could have imagined. Check checking adifferent box. Essentially, just you just
write, I confer nationality of theState of the Ascension of the Chessmen upon
myself. What is the state ornation of ascension of the Chessman. It's
a it's a group of people that'sabout it's it's an idea, it's a

(01:23:25):
it's a political group of people thatwe have a podcast. We talk about
this. We talk about that.We are we are mostly men, we
are mostly women. We are talkingabout this. These are the things that
we have an interest in. Wespeak English, like you could just you
could just put that in a littleaffidavit and you just stable that affidavit to
the back of your DS eleven applicationfrom your passport form. You've described your

(01:23:50):
nation or state. You've conferred nationalityof that state upon yourself, which it
says by any means whatsoever, itor after birth. So basically, here's
how hard it is to confer stateor nationality upon yourself. You have two
boxes. Box number one, areyou alive? Yes? Or no?

(01:24:14):
Literally, I'm not kidding. Itsays after birth, right, So the
first thing is have you been born? That would be question number one.
So if the answer to that isyes, congratulations, you've already checked box
number one. Box number two isby any means whatsoever? To the point
where I mean, this is soinsane, I could probably final documentation on

(01:24:40):
your behalf and change your fucking nationality. Wow, which is insane. That's
insane, right, But I'm justtelling you, like, that's how linear
and how horse blinders these people thinkabout this shit. If I run an
affidavit and I said, oh,I think that Andre, you know,
I think he's actually a national ofTexas, and this is why I think

(01:25:05):
that, and blah blah blah blah. You know what, Andre is actually
a national Texas. I don't know, Bro. I wouldn't be shocked if
they fucking accepted it, bro,honestly, because it's after birth by any
means whatsoever. Wow, it's thatbroad. And now it's worded by any

(01:25:32):
means whatsoever. Wow. Time tostart the AotC nation So so so So
the definition of US citizen is someonewho lives in the District of Columbia,
the nation or state of the corporatezone called District of Columbia, which is

(01:25:55):
also called United States. Right,any other place or any other idea,
or any other political group or tribeotherwise known as a nation or a state
would be something completely different and inrelation to the District of Columbia or United

(01:26:15):
States national, you're a national,right. So all this time I've been
telling everybody, I'm a state national, I'm a state national, I'm a
state national. And as of thepast a week, it's gotten even crazier
because now it's like, now it'sway beyond state national. Doesn't even do
it justice. It's just a politicalgroup. It's it's a fucking idea.

(01:26:41):
It's a culture based off of language. What did it say in that dictionary
based off of based off of language? Uh, let's see, we have
the one online on Google. Whatis the legal what is the legal definition

(01:27:03):
of a nation? We have alarge group of people that's extremely subjective.
What's the definition of large? Youknow, you know that that's tough.
You know, I would almost justremove the word large from that because it's
just not. It's not possible toreally delineate what that means. So I

(01:27:24):
would say a group of people havinga common origin, language, and tradition,
and usually constituting a political entity.Okay, that's one definition. An
organized society usually inhabiting a distinct portionof the earth. It says the word

(01:27:47):
usually, So that's not even allthe time, that's not even all the
time, speaking the same language,using the same customs. Here's an interesting
thing, possessing historic continuity and distinguishedfrom other like groups by their racial origin

(01:28:15):
and characteristics, and generally but notnecessarily living under the same government and sovereignty.
It's very vague. It's mind blowinglyvague. Right. A nation is

(01:28:38):
a culture. A state is aculture. A culture is a group of
people who are different in some way. That's it. Can you explain it
to a seven year old? Ican you know what I mean? I
can explain it to a seven yearold him and his body is at recess

(01:29:00):
that all hang out together by therock and climbed up and down the rock
because they want to talk about howcool rocks are. Are a fucking nation,
bro, They're a sub They're amicro nitions makes suns now and and
and like I said, slow JohnMaistan is my favorite example of this.
There's a lot though, there's alot of them. Start looking up republics

(01:29:25):
of this and and democratic republics ofthis and and and micro nations and groups,
and you're going to find them bythe dozens. There's so many of
them popping up right now. SoJohn Maiston is my favorite because because a
lot of the nations are very like, so serious and so like cool and
like look how who we are andlike the typical bullshit right. So John
Maistan is the biggest fucking house partyjoke fucking that's ever existed. And I

(01:29:48):
just love that to death. Souh, I like slow John Maistan personally.
Uh, if you want to checkit out more. But but there's
there's tons of them. I meanI found just today, I found two.
Someone sent me like two or threeof these things because they're popping up
left and right. I found um. Let's see here, there's one called
um. I don't even know howto pronounce this. Pan Tera Vida Private

(01:30:15):
Society, House of Peace, Societyfor Life. Uh it's it's pan Tera
Vida dot org p A n TE r R A v I d A
dot org. Okay, a newbeginning for mankind. Okay, that's your

(01:30:35):
typical. You know. Here's anotherone, uh, Dominion of Melchisedec.
Okay, this one is Melchisedec dotorg, which is m E L C
h I Z E d E Kdot com Melchizedeck and says peace from the

(01:31:09):
beginning, the Dominion of Melchisedeck asan ecclesiastical sovereign state dedicated to the upholding
of political, social, and economicsovereignty of the Dominion of Mitchell's deck U
Williams. Uh. There's uh,there's a bunch of other ones. There's
there's one that, um, aguy named James C. Love It,

(01:31:31):
I think made one who's a who'sa buddy of mine. Who is the
guy who creates a bunch of documentsthat we use for a lot of cool
things. Um, there's um uhone of the big ones is uh.
Oh I think uh. I thinkthe one that James C. Love It
made Jeames C. Love It,And I think he made like love Vittica

(01:31:57):
love Vitica Nichetion of Levitica. No, I can't find it. There's there's
a lot of these, man,I'm telling you there's there's they're just coming
out of the woodwork. You know, it's a new, whole new world

(01:32:25):
and they're all brand new. Man, I'm telling you, look at all
the fucking dates on these things.They're all brand new. Do you think
do you think the last two yearskind of kicks started all the I mean,
like, oh my god, areyou kidding me? Definitely, thousand
million percent massive, yes, yeah, because you know, I grew up
on Bill Cooper in the nineties andshit, and you know, I thought
he was ahead of his time.But to see words, you know,

(01:32:48):
landed over the last two years,it seems like the numbers of just skyrocketed.
As far as like people getting intothis, and that's kind of where
I feel like I come into play. I think everyone's looking for this and
they and then and then once theysee the definitions and once they see that,
literally the US Code tells you youcan do this, and it it's

(01:33:09):
very clear about how like this iswhat you're supposed to be doing. Like
literally, it's actually illegal to writeUS citizen on anything because you don't live
in the dischit of Columbia. You'reactually lying, right if you go to
eighteen USC nine eleven. If yougo to eighteen USC. Nine eleven,
once you understand the definition of citizenof the United States, and you go

(01:33:30):
to eighteen USC. Nine eleven,it says, whoever falsely and willfully represents
himself to be a citizen of theUnited States shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned, not then not morethan three years, or both or both.
So, so it's illegal if youdon't live in the digital of Columbia.
It's actually highly highly illegal. Imean, you can go to jail

(01:33:57):
for three to ten years for fuckingman's slaughter. This is almost manslaughter level.
Uh. Every time you every timeyou signed that W nine form,
every time you sign those tax forums, every time you sign those those uh
those that DMV application, every timeyou do that. That's a big fat
felony. And I was doing itfor most of my life too, right,

(01:34:21):
So, so when you realize thatthat a nation or state is an
idea, and you realize that youdon't live in the United States at all,
and you realize that you can,you can. You know, initially
I thought, Okay, I'm gonnajoin I'm going to become a state national
because California is an idea, right. And it's an idea that has particular

(01:34:45):
land boundaries and has a particular idea, and it's got a huge economy,
and it has a whole culture toit, right, And some people don't
like that culture. Some people do. It's a beautiful place, absolutely gorgeous
state, right right. Um,I I like it. I like the
chaos inside of it. I enjoythat, uh. And I enjoy the
fact that literally everything is here,every culture, every mindset, every woman,

(01:35:14):
every man, every business, isevery everything from the darkest of the
dark to the most beautiful and mostlight of the light, from the most
ungodly to the most godly. Everythingis in California. Right. You're not
going to find that anywhere else.I like, I like, I like
the extremities of California. Yeah.Uh, everyone thinks I'm crazy. I'm

(01:35:40):
like the only guy in California.It's hard to even find anyone else that
is really into all this kind ofstuff. Somebody left, man, Like,
Yeah, somebody have left? Youhave You're happy to see a lot
of people leave, like, dude, Like like, like, the biggest,
the biggest scientology population in the worldis in Los Angeles, And I'm
not even kidding when I tell youthis, Like twenty probably twenty twenty five

(01:36:02):
percent of the entire community of scientologyleft Los Angeles between twenty twenty and now.
I'm not even kidding, Like exoduslevel. Yeah, that's what I've
heard. So it's it's it's freedomminded individuals, which most scientologists are,

(01:36:24):
by my experience, um, tendto you know. I was like,
fuck that you're not pushing me outof my state, you motherfucker. That
was kind of like my right thatI was more in that category, right,
Um, but most people are notin that category. Yeah, if
you're not a US citizen and don'thave to deal with the political bullshit there,

(01:36:45):
I mean, why would you leave? Yeah? The cool thing about
the cool thing about living here iswhen you when you straighten everything out and
you straighten o your tax situation.Uh, you're living at a place where
everyone's used to paying fifty to sixtypercent of they're all their money on taxes.
And I legally am not classified asa taxpayer. And that's as per

(01:37:10):
twenty six Usc. Seven seven zeroone, Subsection fourteen. Twenty six Usc.
Seven seven zero one, Subsection fourteenDefinition of taxpayer, The definition of
taxpayer is the term taxpayer means anyperson subject to any internal revenue tax because
I'm a non citizen national, andbecause i am a non resident alien,

(01:37:36):
and because I don't legally live inthe United States, because I'm a part
of a completely foreign nichetion or statewhich is completely definable by whatever it is
you want to define it by.In my case, I'm probably gonna change
mine. I'm probably gonna change mineto the Amnesty Coalition because I'm at the

(01:37:58):
point now where I have I'm massivefollowing right and and I have a certain
aspects of my nation or state thatare very important to me. For example,
it's very education based society. Mysociety is an education based society.
The definitions of words, the clearingof the definitions of words. The focus

(01:38:23):
of the clearing of the definitions ofwords, assisting other people to understand things
by presenting things in a fun,engaging way, focusing on the definitions,
trying to use words and definitions andideas that are easily accessible to the normal
person, not complex ideas or complexterms or words. You know, using

(01:38:45):
using emotion to elicit and understanding ratherthan just words. This is the basis
of my nition or state. Soaccording to the Department of State, I'm
a state now of the non incorporatedforeign state called, you know, the

(01:39:06):
non incorporated version of California. Becauseyou're gonna learn in my course that State
of California is a private sub corporationof United States. State of California is
located in the District of Columbia.So when you sign all your documentations the

(01:39:30):
State of California and the s instate is capitalized, they're actually referring to
the corporation. So when you sayyou're a resident of State of California,
what you're saying is is that youlive inside of the corporation, which is
located in the District of Columbia.So when you say you're a resident of

(01:39:55):
State of California, in that samebreath, you are saying that you are
a US city. A US citizenis someone who lives in the District of
Columbia. Right. But you confernationality of a state upon yourself after birth
by any means whatsoever. Right,So all you do is just tell them,
you know, uh, you don't. You don't need you don't according

(01:40:18):
to the United States Code, youdon't even need to explain your nation or
state. Technically, you could writean affidavit that says, i'm i'm I'm
i am a national of the ofthe state. You don't capitalize the word

(01:40:40):
state. It's a lowercase because ifyou look at eight USC one one zero
one, or they define what anational is, the word state is lowercase,
right, and that's the so soit's it's capitalized if you're referring to
one of the corporations that are locatedin the District of Columbia, it's lowercase.
If it's literally anything else. AndI don't really have hard evidence to

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show you to that fact, butit's just from literally just being submerged in
this for so much, for solong, I've just sort of like developed
that definition from everything I've looked atbecause I've I swear to God, I've
looked everywhere, and that's basically howthey how they do it right, So

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you would say state lowercase. Youcould just say, you know, I
just want to let you guys know, I'm no longer a US citizen.
I'm not living in the United States, I'm not living in the Distric Columbia,
not a resident. I'm actually anational as per eight USC one one
zero one, Subsection twenty one andas per section twenty three, I'm conferring
nationality of ascension of the Chessman stateor nation to myself and you say,

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I am alive, I have beenborn. You could put that in there,
I guess, because that's part ofwhat needs to happen in order for
you to confer a state nationality andyourself and he send it it. Technically
speaking, you don't even need toexplain it, just for half a David,
Yeah, and get it notarized andmail it in and or attach it

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to your passport attached to your passport. Um, you would put no on
every single thing on the whole passportapplication involving US citizen, including your parents.
And you think that would work withthe three star or five star passport?
Probably five star passport? Yeah,wow, probably the full the full
deal. It's the full deal,right see. I just renewed my passport

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like three months ago. Uh,because I was going to go to South
America and ended up not going.But um, so you know, with
it expiring in ten years, haveyou had people that had just recently got
one as a US citizen that reclassifiedwith issues or you gotta wait ten years,

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another ten years or no, no, no, no, no,
you you can go in and fileanother DS eleven right now. I just
did mine, got my state nationalpassport, my non citizen national passport.
I'm probably gonna go in and geta diplomatic passport now, and then I
might go in and a few monthsand get something else. There's a bunch
of different times passports, right I'mgonna see if I can hold multiple passports
at the same time. That's thenext thing I had to figure out,

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because you know, I don't Iwould like to have my regular passport my
non citizen national passport, but i'dlike to hold a diplomatic passport. I'd
like to have two different ones personally. But we'll see, we'll see.
I don't know how that works.Nobody, nobody knows, nobody knows this.
This is so far beyond what anybodyknows, you know, So what

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we're what we're you know. Look, the bottom line is this. You
can go in and fill out aDS eleven form and pay the payment to
get your passport as many times asyou want and whenever you want. Makes
no fucking difference at all whatsoever.In fact, if you want a non
citizen national passport, it's like,you know, one hundred and eighty bucks.

(01:44:03):
It's a normal price. It's onehundred and eighty bucks. And then
if you want to get the fastshipping and the fast processing, it's like
three hundred bucks or two hundred bucks. But I had a guy just the
other day who went in he gota diplomatic passport. They have to go
into a whole different area. Hewas just went to the fucking post office.
He didn't even go to the passportcenter. And they had to click
on there's a there's there's feed passportsand no fee passports. And she was

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all confused. She's like, Idon't I've never seen anything like this,
and I've been working here for twentyyears, but we hear a lot of
that, right right, I'm sure. And she had to click on no
fee and then it came up likespecial issue passports, and then it said
diplomatic. She clicked that thirty fivedollars to get a diplomatic passport. What

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Now. The thing about a diplomaticpassport, though, is that you got
to be a little bit A diplomaticpassport is like it's still you're still sort
of like a an employee or officerof the United States of the corporation and
you're operating abroad. I don't reallyknow a lot about this yet. I'm

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just gonna like not even say it'sstill it's still. It's so new.
We just we just started getting intoa lot of this kind of thing,
so I just don't I don't know. And then I started thinking to myself,
like, oh, you can openan embassy, because technically you can,
and then you can start issuing passportsfor people. But then the more

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I think about it, it's like, it's like, you don't need a
fucking embassy to issue passports because aslong as you're born, the conferring of
state nationality is by any means whatsoever. A talking dog in South Africa could

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technically confer nationality of a state uponyou, which is batshit insane, right
literally, But as per eighteen USCone one zero one, Subsection twenty three,
that's how proud of this, andit states so when you go into
the passport office and you say,oh, you approve my passport right now,

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what's happening in that moment is you'resaying, will you confer state nationality
upon me? By any means ofwhatsoever. Right now. The thing is
is that they have the choice ofjust say no, right, but when
you confer state nationality upon yourself,they don't have the option to say no

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to them. They literally cannot legallydeny your application. It is a physical
and legal impossibility. The only waythey could deny your application is if you're

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asking them to confer state nationality uponyou admission of guilt. You don't ask
them to confer state nationality upon you. You confer clearly and aggressively, not

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aggressively like like clearly in like hardcore, like there's no fucking mincing words,
like I confer the nationality of ascensionof the Chessman nation upon myself right now.
Immediately, there will be no therewill be no. I'm not asking
you for permission. I'm not askingyou for for to confer state nationality upon

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me. I am alive, Ihave been born. I can prove that
right and proclamation and I it's aproclamation. And that's the big issue.
The big issue is everyone's going andasking right part of state to confer state
nationality upon them. It's that simple, that's the problem. It's like we're

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just begging. It's like, yeah, we already know, dude. Thank
you so much for all the insighttonight and you know, scheduling so quickly
with me. This has been manso much to chew on after this one,
uh, and honor to sit andtalk with you. Um, I

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wanted to, you know, closeit down here soon. I just wanted
to ask, you know, whatgives you hope for the future, and
where do you see this all headingand say five to ten years, um,
listeners, where they can find youand you know a little about your
course and what it's all about.Yeah. So, so the course is

(01:48:57):
called the contract Killer Course, whichwas actually named that way obviously on purpose,
because it's supposed to be edgy asfuck. The contract Killer courses are
going to walk you through a lot. It's a lot. It's like twenty
four hours of material and then atthe end you're going to get an invitation
to go to the advanced course,which is like another however many hours of
material and I'm adding to it everyonce in a while. It's not something
I put a lot of time andenergy to. Right now, it's about

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twenty four twenty two to twenty fourhours of material for the first course,
the contract cut of course, andthen it's maybe like as of right now,
up to video number four for theadvanced course and maybe like four or
five additional hours. We're gonna startoff. We're gonna go through birth certificates.
We're gonna go through the definition ofthe word person, which actually means
a corporation, to trust, anassociation of partnership. We're gonna talk about

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how corporations and all these different thingsthey're all persons in the law. We're
gonna talk about a lot about that. We're gonna talk about trusts. We're
gonna talk about the structure of trust, the theory of how trusts work,
but like in a fun way,and it's very simple. I don't get
into all the just the simple parts, fun simple core aspects. Right.
Then we're going to get into thelocation of the United States, the definition

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of United States, the location ofall the different state of California, state
of Texas, state of Oklahoma,how they're all corporations, where they're located.
Then on video number five, we'regoing to get into how to fill
out the W eight B E Nform, which is the form that you're
going to fill out too. Ifyou have an If you're self employed,
you don't fill out this one.If you're employed by an employer and you

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have payroll and they take taxes outof your paycheck every week or every month
or every two weeks, the Weight B E N form is what you're
going to give your employer to completelyannihilate all taxation from your job. We
go over that on video number five, and on six, seven, eight,
and nine we start getting into moreinformation about this. We start getting

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into taxation. We start getting intowhat's called the election, how you actually
elect did to pay taxes, andthen how you can actually eliminate that election
by filling out what's called a Formfifty six and mailing it into the Internal
Revenue Service. Now, if you'reself employed, you just have to do
the Forum fifty six. If you'reif you're employed at a job, you

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have to do the Form fifty sixas well as the W eight B E
N. And then you also haveto fill out a new I nine form.
And if you look at the Inine form on box two, it'll
say non citizen national of the UnitedStates. You have to you have to
submit an I nine and a WA B E N to your employer okay,
which which will set the whole fuckingbuilding on fire. It's hilarious companies.

(01:51:43):
It it just everyone just absolutely losestheir fucking mind. I mean,
I mean, one for one,almost every single company I've ever seen anyone
do this with. It's like it'slike setting the whole building literally on fire
with gasoline and throw a singer rightout. Okay, So it's pretty exciting.
Definitely want to be easy, youknow, once you submit those forums,

(01:52:05):
give them a week or two tolike completely lose their fucking mind,
and then just you know, gentlywork with them to get it completed and
get the taxation sorted out right.A W four V is another form that
you can use to eliminate all taxationfrom your job. That one's super easy.
Box seven on the W four Vliterally just says, do not withhold

(01:52:28):
any more taxes from my paycheck,and you just sign it. That one's
pretty simple. WBN is the bestthing to do though. Video number nine,
I teach you how to fill outthe form fifty six. Video number
eleven, I teach you how todo the entire passport process. Video number
fourteen, I teach you how towrite legal documents. We start getting into

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how to write legal documents and videonumber fourteen, fifteen and sixteen and seventeen.
How to basically write what's called aconditional acceptance, which is how to
conditionally accept absolutely anything that anyone mailsyou, meaning parking tickets, speeding tickets,
tax bills, credit card bills,anything you can possibly think of from

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absolutely any organization can be what's calledconditionally accepted. And I teach you how
to write those. I show youexamples of conditional acceptances that I have written,
I break them down in great detailin the videos. And then after
that we start getting into the structureof promissory notes, the structure of money,
how government is actually self funded throughwhat's called trust management organizations, how

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to deal with the mail, howto send things registered mail, to how
to create a legal document send itregistered mail, and then and then how
to basically create witnesses by the Secretaryof State or the Attorney general, and
how to basically I teach you howto disconnect entirely from the States, and
then how to basically become a lawyer. All in about thirty nine days.

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It's a lot of information, anda banker, you also become a banker
so you become a banker, alawyer, and and and you're basically you're
you're starting to create your own nationor state. And then as you get
into the advanced course, we starttalking about more advanced subjects, which I'm
not even going to talk about herebecause it's just going to be too much.

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So so so, so then theadvanced course, by that point in
time, you're going to start gettinginto some of the more advanced things,
like some of the things that I'mdoing, and I start breaking some things
down more some more advanced conditional acceptancesand stuff like that. So that's a
basically what the course is. Thecourse is free, and the advanced course
is also free. So incredible,brother's all. It's all at the most

(01:54:49):
glorious website in the world, whichis one stupid fuck dot com. And
uh sorry, I kind of uhpush those two questions together. But where
do you see all this going inthe next five to ten years with where
you're at right now, do youhave any idea or just kind of take
a micronations. Yeah, micronations communitiesfor men, maybe even maybe even millions

(01:55:15):
of them. Yeah, micronations,I love it. Well, I think
that's what I've been to call thisepisode such an honor to talk to your
brother, love everything you're doing,and keep up the good work man.
Thank you very much for having meon. I appreciate you guys. Thank
you Stephaniely have a good night brother, you too,