#179 - JFK Assassination & Zionist Influence w/ Cory Hughes

Cory Hughes is a truth seeker, researcher, author & host of the Understanding Propaganda Podcast.

Episode Transcript

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researcher, author and host of theUnderstanding Propaganda podcast. Ladies and Gentlemen,
Hobbits and Fairies give a warm welcometo Corey Hughes. How's it going.
Thank you for having me and it'san honor brother, happy to finally get
you on. It was a pleasure, Meeta, what was that a month
month and a half ago? Yeah, look forward to the reunion coming up.

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But yeah, man, I usuallystart my show off with this first
question for every guest, So Corey, for those who aren't familiar, can
you explain what it is that youdo? And I guess what walk you
up to realizing maybe there's more tothis life than you originally taught or thought.
Yeah, I'm a Kennedy researcher.That's like Mike Shat's my thing.
I'm about to finish my first bookon the subject, and it's basically my

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entire life. So yeah, whenI got started knowing that people were full
of shit, I don't know.Maybe I was like two years old,
so it was hard to say.Right, So where did this all begin?
For you? As far as questioningJFK wanting to look into a deeper
saying to yourself, something isn't righthere, I'm not being given the full

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story, Like when did where didthat all begin? I mean, those
are basic observations everyone should have withinabout thirty seconds of hearing about the circumstances
under which Kennedy was shot. Right, But I made it. I made
a decision to do this in Julyof twenty eighteen, and so it's been
my main course of study ever since. Wow, and uh, I guess

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with the recent news, Uh youknow of the new documents being released,
do you think that was all justa big smoke screen or yeah, the
documents are fucking irrelevant. The documentscouldn't be more irrelevant. Like the shit
that they're holding onto now that actuallyhas meaning, people wouldn't understand the meaning
if they gave it to them anyway. It's not doesn't. None of the

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documents are going to have anything todo with Kennedy. All the documents that
they're holding show proof of relationships betweenpeople who shouldn't have relationships. That is
it. That is it. Itis not going to have any smoking guns.
There's nothing in there that Garrison didn'talready figure out there. It will
show is very specific relationships between peoplein government with mobs and criminals, in

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particular Jack Valenti, who was theshooter on the Grassy Knoll, but he
was also the right hand end ofLyndon Johnson for many years. And so
that's what they need to protect becausewhen you come to understand who Jack Valenti
is and the role he played ingovernment and then what he did after he
left government, well he never leftgovernment really. He went to run Hollywood,
and he ran Hollywood at the bestof the CIA. The Motion Picture

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Association of America is a CIA organization. Okay, it was run by Jack
Valenti, who I can prove wasa CIA agent through the documents, Right,
So the CIA controls Hollywood. That'sjust a fucking fact. I don't
think anybody denies that, But Idon't think anybody ever understood the mechanism.
But they directly control it through theMPAA. And what did they do through
the MPAA They implemented like the movierating system, right, which was just

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relliant. It's a mechanism of censorship. Because it's certain back in the day
in sixty eight when they created themovie ratings, if you had a certain
rating, you couldn't get funding.If you had a certain rating, you
couldn't get advertising. If you hada certain movie rating, like an R
rating, you couldn't be put incertain theaters. Right. So that was
how they censored movies. If theydidn't like what you had to say,
they gave you an R rating andthen you got nothing. Your fucking movie

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was limited to like adults, andtherefore it was limited to certain theaters.
So the entire idea of movie ratingswas about censorship, had nothing to do
with protecting kids from seeing titties.You know. It was so dumb.
And then when you look at theguy who was involved, it was Jack
Valente, and he was involved withthe entire planning of the trip for Kennedy
to come to Texas. He bookedall the events for John F. Kennedy's

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trip to Texas. He fucking hostedall the events in Texas, and he
coordinated through the Dallas Citizens Council theroute that Kennedy would actually take in his
limousine. And then he knew exactlywhere Kennedy would be where he could shoot
him from the Grassy Knoll. Soit is a long, twisted, winding
path to get to how I figuredout Jack Valenti was the shooter on the
Grassy Knoll. But that is allgoing to be in my book, which

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will be out very soon. I'mon my last chapter. It should be
finished in the next two weeks,and all of it will be in there.
Beautiful. Um, I gotta startthis off with, Okay, like
when jfk woke up that day,do you think he knew what was going
to happen? He knew? No, of course not. There was most

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certainly not. Now, some peoplecome up with these great theories that he
was knew he was going into intolike a firing range, and this is
ridiculous, Like, no he didn'tknow. Yeah, but he didn't want
to go to Texas in the firstplace, but he knew he had to.
So for him, there was nothingout of the ordinary. Well,
I'm sure you've heard about the multiplewarnings he had, what was it from
the governor or Texas at the timeahead of time, like warning him that

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you know, there's threats out forhim. But do you think that was
just normal? Like, yeah,it's almost everywhere he went. Yeah,
every president gets those everywhere they go, you know what I mean, we
just don't hear about him. Sono, there's nothing, nothing out of
the ordinary in as far as theresponse of the people in Texas to Kennedy's
trip. So, starting from thevery beginning back in twenty eighteen, when

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you started to get into this,how many times did you see like where
you saw this going change throughout yourcourse of research? Well, I just
kept noticing that, like I keptfiguring shit out, and I'm like,
wait a minute, hang on asecond, stop. This has been like
sixty years and people have been studyingthe shit, right, and like,
there's no way that I just figuredthis thing out. Nobody else ever has.

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And then it would happen again andthen it happened again, and then
it happened again, and then yearsinto my research, I started to realize
that the current people who have beenwho have designated themselves as the Kennedy experts,
are a bunch of freaking morons.These people are dumb. These people
had access to the same amount ofinformation that I had access to, with

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a few exceptions, but the vastmajority of the body of information that I
had access to, it has beenout there for decades. There's no reason
that people couldn't have figured most ofthe stuff out, you know, especially
in as far as like people lyingabout where they were and alibis in this
and that, And when you gothrough the Assassin Nation, you find that
everybody's lying about where they were.All the people who were guilty all presented

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fake alibis that are easily debunked,you know. And so to me,
it just became obvious that certain peoplewere involved directly as far as the shooting
itself went, like in New Orleans, like David Ferry, and I'm like,
how the hell did nobody else figurethis stuff out? And that's when
I just realized that half the guyswho studied Kennedy don't want to figure it

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out because they make so much moneyoff of their books and there whatever else
documentaries and you know, and that'scrazy to me because there's way more money
in the answers than the just youknow, jerking people off for fifty years,
you know what I mean. Andso I have really very little respect
for Kennedy researchers out there. They'vedone a decent job of digging up facts
and data, but they've done nojob whatsoever of assembling the pieces into any

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kind of understandable framework. And that'swhat I did. I changed the entire
game. Like John Barber, who'sone of the longest running entity guys in
the world, made multiple documentaries onHe's the father of a reality television.
He had a long standing show onNBC at Night. Like Johnny Carson,

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he said that my research is thebest May Brussels, And for an old
timer, that's that's the biggest complimentyou could ever get, because May Brussels
was like way light years ahead ofher time. She was a researcher in
the seventies and eighties, and likeshe came really close to figuring out the
government CIA aspect of things when nobodyknew anything like. So, but yeah,
every once in a while I'll getsomebody who appreciates what I'm doing,

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but my work is usually largely rejectedFor most of the JFK research community,
I don't ever get booked on theirpodcasts or any of the any of their
shows, because like as soon asthey get on there, it makes all
their work like retarded, and theyjust fucking realized they pissed away twenty years
of their life for no reason.Right, So, so were you just
piggybacking off the people that it camebefore you? Would you say? Or

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like, how how do you feelthat the process was sped up to get
to what really happened that day foryou personally? You know, it's really
tough. It's really tough because,like I kept, I didn't read anybody's
books, Like I said, fuckpeople's opinions, because like the books that
I did read, I realized thatpeople's opinions were worthless and that these guys

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were really good at digging up data, but they didn't know how to connect
any dots, you know, becausethat's there's two different ways, there's two
different kinds of researchers. There aresome researchers who will just go out there
and just dig up mountains of dataand they'll just leave it to sit there.
Right, here's all this data Igot, Well, we know what
the fuck. But then those peoplelike me who are like need to know
like the relationship of the data,you know. And so I was a

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cop for almost ten years. Ifucking researched and investigated tens of thousands of
cases. I've interviewed so many fuckingwitnesses. I understand. I'm an expert
at listening to witness testimony and understandingwhat really happened, you know. And
so I realized that in Kennedy,like all the good witnesses, all their
information had been like uh kind oflike shuttled away and like stepped on and

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yeah, of people like Dale Myerswas Dale Myers is a guy who came
out and tried to write books aboutthe assassination of J. D. Tippett,
who was the cop who got killedright after Kennedy, Right, And
of course he entered into the intoit with the notion that Oswald was guilty
and Oswald shot J. D.Tippett, Right, And so he basically
wrote his entire series of books onthe premise that Oswald did it, and

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so then all the information that hecame across that he was his original data
that he dug up that totally flewin the face of his original conclusions he
would put out like in articles andthen be like, ah, but this
information is garbage, right, Likein particular, he tells the story he
got contacted and tells the story ofa woman named Doris Holland who Doris Holland
was a witness to the shooting atippet. She gave such explicit detail on

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what happened, who was involved,the descriptions that it's obvious she was there
because she provided data that she didn'tknow the relevance of. And when people
provide data that they don't understand therelevance of as a witness, you can
pretty much guarantee what they're telling youis true because they don't understand the significance
of the things they're saying. Rightif you're looking for a guy who's a
suspect and he has a green car, and then you know, ten minutes
later you see a witness. Hetalked to a witness who saw a murder

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happen. The guy was driving agreen car. She does not know the
significance of the green car, butthe person looking at the investigator does,
right. And so as I'm goingthrough the data, I'm constantly seeing information
that I know is one hundred percentaccurate and relevant, but that these Kennedy
researchers are just discarding entirely. LikeDell Myers did what Doris Hollands. So
Doris Hollands upstairs in her a secondfloor apartment, and she gives great descriptions

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of everything. Well, instead ofjust believing the family story that is provided
about her, he has to goand do this over the top background investigation
on the whole family, and heends up coming to a conclusion that they
didn't they weren't living at the placethey said they were living, or I
can't prove they were living there,So therefore all the information she provided was
false. Right, So it's likeone has nothing to do with the other.

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Like Jim Garrison famously said that,He's like, why is it that
just because a woman's a prostitute meansshe has to have better eyesight? You
know what I mean? So likeand it's it's the truth, right,
Like, you know, you can'tdiscredit somebody for one thing and say,
well, that means this is falseover here. And that's what you see
a lot of times in Kennedy research. They discredit people who shouldn't be discredited.
You know, the Tippet shooting isvery important because all the people who

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were involved in the assassination were involvedin the shooting a tippet and that was
a pre arranged assassination as well,because they needed to get the cop.
Because the cops were all, yeah, I think nineteen sixty three, there's
no such thing as a liberal.Then okay, if you're on the left,
you're a conservative who's on a littlebit on the left. Right,
like it was just conservatism, washow it was in nineteen sixty three,

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right, So if you were alittle bit to the left, they were
like, you're a fucking communist.In hindsight, they were correct. I
didn't realize, you know that evenjust a little bit of liberalism is just
a little bit of communism. Butso back in the day, the cops
were all like to the right ofthe right. Right, they were all
like a bunch of guys in thefucking Dallas Police Department had Ku Kluck's Klan

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patches on their uniforms. Right,So that's the level of mentalities at These
people didn't give a fuck that thecommunist Kennedy got killed. Right. So
while of course you have the detectivesand you have the guys on scene who
were working the case actively, theoverwhelming sentiment was that they didn't give a
fuck, really, and so theykilled JD. Tippett to get all of

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who was a cop, to getto get all of the other officers pissed
off and you know, like ona mission to find the guy who did
it. And then it come bringsus to the Texas Theater where Oswald's ultimately
arrested, which was another pre planned, staged event that they needed because they
knew where Oswald would be. Hemet with a handler inside the Texas Theater
and the handler told him to justwait here, and the handler left.

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It was a pregnant woman and soshe talks to Oswald and then she leaves,
and then a half an hour later, Oswald's busted. So the whole
setup of Oswald and the killing aTippet and all that was done while he
was literally sitting in a movie theatereating popcorn for over forty minutes. While
they're creating this um legend that hewas the one who killed Jad Tippett,
right, And it was really amazingwhen you go through I have it all

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outlined in my book, like howthey did it, but when you go
like minute by minute of who waswhere, when, and how they established
everything from the time of the assassinationthrough the time that Oswald was arrested in
the theater, it's like, holyshit, this was meticulously planned down to
the minute on where certain people hadto be in order to pull this off.

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And then people are like, well, you can't. How are you
going to have a conspiracy that bighire gonna pull up? It's very easy
because then because I think like whenyou have this kind of a level of
coordination, it's about taking orders,right, It's not a bunch of dude
smoking cigars in a in a fuckingroom like conspiring to kill the president.
No, it's about organizations that arealready in place to have a hierarchy,

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and you just do it the fuckyou're told and you don't question it.
If you're in the mob or ifyou're in the police department and they tell
you to do something, you don'tsay why. You just do it because
otherwise you're fucking done. And sothat's how this thing was pulled off by
people who genuinely didn't know that therewas involved in any kind of conspiracy.
Right, so like a command,right, compartmentalization is everything, And that's

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how this thing was pulled off.Except when you get to like the Dallas
Police and the Dallas Sheriff. Thoseare some good old boys down south.
They were genuinely they were shysty,but they were not the smartest guys in
the world, and so they thelevel of like contradiction and the level of
how much they screwed up and thesloppiness that was done by the Dallas Police

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and they're covering their tracks is unreallyunbelievable. Like they arrested like fifteen to
twenty people in daily Plaza, likethe most of them were guilty, like
legitimately they in my opinion from basedon my research, they arrested the shooter
who was the shooter from the Daltexbuilding who shot Kennedy from Michael wackn Deal
twice in the back, once inthe back of the head and the shot

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that went over his shoulder and wentthrough the windshield that people always talk about
that all came from the shooter ofthe dalt Tex. I'm convinced that he
was arrested that day, but theycovered up that arrest and they changed the
story of what happened in the bookdepository the timeline in order to cover that
fact. Right, Like everyone saysthat Oswald was like shot the president and
then he ran down the stairs,and then he goes to the lunch room

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and he's caught in the lunch roomlike drinking a coke. Right, this
is like this is like his alibi, like buy a coke, right,
right, But the whole story aboutthe coke is fiction. It never happened.
When you go through the document,they'll they'll tell you it happened,
and like the cop, they'll allsay that it happened. It never happened.
And know how I know it didn'thappen because when you go through everyone's

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original handwritten notes before they had timeto type them or do any of that
stuff, it clearly indicates on atleast three different forms on the original notes
handwritten, the original typewritten, andthen the original typewritten notes from Curry.
Like when you were a cop andyou write a report, it goes to
your supervisor, and then your supervisorconsented to whoever, so it got approved

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multiple steps up the chain, andthen sent to Chief Curry, where it
said that the incident happened on thestairs between the third and fourth floor,
didn't happen in the lunch room,and there was never a coke involved.
And then I realized, and thenI realized why they made that up,
because that incident happened much later thanthey said to ninety seconds, and during
that time when it should have happenedlike they tell us it did, the

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cop who was involved was actually outsidearresting the shooter at the Daltecs. And
I think they made up that wholefucking story about the coke to cover for
the fact that that cop, whosename was Baker, he didn't enter the
book depository at a minimum till twelvethirty seven, because we have witnesses who
were in the building who said nocops ever came in here till at least
twelve thirty seven when I walked outthe door, right, So there's a

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discrepancy in the timeline of when everybodyeven got to the book depository in the
first place. So, but Ifigured out everything that went on in the
book depository. I figured out thatOswald never worked at the book depository.
Oswald never worked at the book Depository. Okay, so the person it is,
it's it's like crisis actors, right, the whole story. There was

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a person working in that building whowas going under the name Oswald, but
it wasn't Oswald. It was aguy named William Seymour. And when you
study Oswald, you'll find that fortwo years leading up to the assassination,
two years more than that, fromJanuary of sixty one at the earliest,
So from January of sixty one allthe way to November of sixty three,
you have two men impersonating Oswald,right, So Kerry Thornley mostly in New

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Orleans, and William Seymour mostly inDallas. These guys looked almost identical to
Oswald when you look at photos ofthem next to Oswald. And this is
funny because Garrison did this. Garrison, the investigator in New Orleans. He
actually would take pictures of Oswald andthese other two guys and mix them up
and hand them to people to lookat. And people couldn't tell they were
looking at a different person. Soyeah, that's that's amazing. How close

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they look to each other, andso right. And so when you study
the the duplicate Oswald theory as theycall it, which I've pretty much figured
out and can verify, it wastwo specific men in over a one hundred
differ for an incidence where they wentand did things where either they used the
name Lee Oswald outright, or theywent and did stupid shit like talked about
communism or talked about like shooting guns, or talked about how much they hate

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Kennedy, or but they kept goingout of their way to leave the little
hints that hey, right, becausewhat happens, you gotta think about it.
In nineteen sixty three, you meetsomebody in one particular instance, about
two months before the assassination in BatonRouge, Louisiana, allegedly Oswald and his
wife and his little daughter allegedly goto look at a place to possibly rent.

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Now, when you study Oswald,it totally doesn't fit into Oswald's m
O. It doesn't fit into Oswald'stimeline. It doesn't make any sense he
would be in Baton Rouge looking fora place. And then when you read
the statements of the woman who wasrenting out the apartment there. She's like,
all this guy did, She's like, I never asked him anything about
his life, but he kept tellingme that he lived in Russia, and
kept telling me that he loves Communism, and kept telling me that he hates

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Kennedy, and like, so thisperson went out of their way to drop
all these hints, right. Andthen so imagine two months later, all
of a sudden, some guy onTV shoots the president and they're like,
oh, he was a communist andall this stuff, and they start showing
his picture and you see a guywho looked fairly similar to him. You're
like, I think that's the guywho else is going to be in here

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talking about communism and shooting Kennedy?Right, But really it was a switcher
roo exactly. And they did thatfor two and a half fucking years leading
up to the assassination. And soeven people who understand that theory and understand
that that was happening, they don'tever apply that same logic to the employment
of Oswald at the book depository.And I did because one day I was

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reading through the statements of the peopleat the book depository and this is over
two years ago. So for me, this is like, I've had a
long time to think through this andunderstand how it would work. So when
I tell people, they're like,haha, you're fullshit, right, but
it makes a lot of sense tome. So William Seymour, who has
been seen at the rifle range andlike all the things that we think that
Oswald did in Dallas, Oswald neveractually did. It was actually William Seymour,

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And so I realized it was himwhen I was going through statements of
people to book depository, and betweentwenty and thirty percent of them in their
statements said that they had never seenOswald ever until he showed up on television.
And so you gotta think Oswald wasallegedly working there for about five and
a half weeks, about six weeks. And it's a small building, only
sixty six employees in the whole buildingamong four different companies. Right. So,

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but I've worked in buildings like thiswhere you have like a common lunch
area and like it's an office building, and you end up seeing everybody at
some point in time, right,So, like whether you're going to take
a cigarette break or having a lunchbreak or whatever, you know, you
generally get you get to see whoelse is in the building, even if
you don't work with them directly,but you've crossed their paths. Right.
About twenty to thirty percent of thebuilding had never ever encountered Oswald ever,

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including his boss, Ovie Campbell,who was the vice president of the company,
who was the top guy in thatbuilding. He'd never seen Oswald there
ever when he was interviewed, andso I was like, holy shit,
I was like, your kid me, I'm like, there's no way.
I was like, he's not hedidn't work there. And so I was
like, now, let me startto look for the proof that he didn't
work there or lack of proof thathe does, right, And so that's

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kind of what drew me to therealization that when you go through the statements
of everyone in the book depository whoworked with him that day, you come
to realize who was in on itand who wasn't because of how they identified
Oswald. So was the William Seymourguy. Was his last name? Oswald?
Was Oswald a nickname they called him, or no, I think he
was just using that name as analias. And that completely coincides with a

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lot of things that coincides with WilliamSeymour and his alleged departure from Miami.
So for a while, see thisis a trio of guys. Lawrence Howard,
who's a big, fat Mexican dudewho's got moles all over his face,
a very distinct looking guy. Himand William Seymour, who literally looks
just like Oswald, except he's shorter. He's only five foot six. Oswald

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was five to nine. So,and then you have Lauren Hall, who
was another mercenary guy. And allthese guys were training with a guy named
Jerry Hemming down in my amy inno name key in like one of those
keys in the you know, downin South Florida where they had set up
like a military training facility where theywould go and shoot guns and stuff,
and and that was connected also tothe mafia. Trafficante would send people down

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to work with the CIA, believeit or not, at no name key
to do training and shit. Likethese CIA guys and the mafia hitmen actually
worked literally trained together. Like yeah, that's how fucking embed these these these
people were. So but William Seymourand Lawrence Howard and Lauren Hall were kind
of a trio that over this twoand a half year period, are seen
together all over the place between likeMiami and like Baton Rouge, New Orleans,

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Dallas, Austin, like Los Angeles. And there's a couple month period
before the assassination between I'd say Septemberish and the assassination itself where these guys
are literally driving back and forth betweenMiami and Los Angeles at least two times,
stopping in Dallas along the way.Uh. And so when I started

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to look at like the employment scheduleof when Oswald was there and when William
Seymour is actually confirmed to have beenout of Miami, the dates lined up
almost perfectly. Um. And thenI was able to actually trace William Seymour
and Lawrence Howard. After the assassination, they flee Dallas in a in a
CIA plane. They get picked upnext to the aqueduct in Dallas, um

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like like like less than two hoursafter the assassination, and they fly and
they fly to an Air Force basein New Mexico. No, not fishy
at all. That's covered in abook called Flight from Dallas by a guy
named Robert Vinson. Robert Vinson wasa guy who was just a CIA and
he went to CIA guy. Atthe time, he was an air Force

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and he needed to catch a plane, and so they stick him on.
They said, hey, we'll catchthat plane. So he hops on the
plane and like a half an hourlater they're in the air the plane,
Kenny gets killed. The plane turnsaround, it goes to Dallas and it
pulls up literally doesn't go to anairport airport. It pulls up into this
grassy field next to an interstate thatis still under construction. And he said,

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it stops. They didn't even turnthe engine off. They opened the
door. These two guys hop on. He later describes this guy as having
looked exactly like Lee Harvey Oswald whenhe sees Oswald's pictures in the paper.
Right, So, every it's amazingbecause every single person who encountered Oswald,
and every single person who encountered KerryThornley, the other guy who impersonated Oswald,
they literally could not tell the difference. That's how close these guys actually

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look to Oswald. But that's howthe CIA works. They know if they're
pulling an op and they want guyswho look like each other, they know
they have a whole pool of amillion people they can pull from to pair
them up with each other. Right, So I've come to be convinced that's
how the CIA operates a lot,is that they group people together by appearance,
so that witnesses and they give adescription, it's hard to tell which

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guy they were talking about. LikeDavid Ferry, who was like a central
character in the story in New Orleans, surrounded himself with guys who were about
five foot nine hundred and fifty poundswith light brown hair, who were thin
as hell. So everywhere he wentthe description of the guys he was with
was identical, but it could havebeen one of half a dozen guys,
you know what I mean. Sothat's how the CIA kind of works,
like you can't tell who was whobecause they group people like this. And

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so William Seymour obviously got pulled into this plot because it was a close
appearance to Oswald. But yeah,so I have no proof of oswald work
in the book Depository. He definitelywas not there that day. When you
listen, when you read everyone's statementsabout where they were and what they were
doing at what time, nobody crossesOswald's path ever, except for three or

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four guys like Bonnie Ray Williams,and like Charles Gibbons, another guy named
Jarman, just like low level guyswho worked at the book depository who would
were actually guys who worked with Oswaldon a daily basis. Those are the
only people in the witness statements whoever positively identify Oswald as having been there
that day. Only four or fivepeople could actually put Oswald there that day

(26:53):
out of the sixty plus people whowork in the depository. And out of
those people, those are all peoplewho were obviously introduced to William Seymour as
Oswald. So they said, yes, it was Oswald. But after the
assassination, imagine this, You're alow level guy working in a building and
you're working with a guy named LeeOswald, and then all of a sudden

(27:14):
oswalds accused of killing the president.But the guy they're saying is Lee Oswald
on television is not the guy thatyou've been working with. Would you open
your mouth and try to tell anybody, no, I'd moved to fucking Russia
and Riven a hole in the ground, you know what I mean. I
wouldn't say God, I'd be like, holy shit, what am I Yeah?
But then that's the possibility that sinceit was a CIA front business the

(27:34):
entire time, that their employees weregenerally pulled from a pool of candidates or
related relatives or people who they knewwould be cool with shady shit going on,
right, you know, So that'salways a possibility too, because all
those guys who worked there in thebook depository were former military even, like
I mean, but yeah, thingWorld War Two, every guy in the

(27:56):
country went to the war, right, So like if you were like if
you were over sixteen and under likefifty, you went to the war.
So when you get to nineteen sixtythree, every single person that you meet
is an ex army, Navy,marine, whatever. Because World War Two
was just like fifteen years before thator eighteen years before that is when it
came to an end. So everysingle person you encounter in Kennedy has a

(28:19):
military background, right, So it'skind of hard to discern if the military
background is connected to their being involvedin the conspiracy today, right, Like,
how does that has any of that? It's hard to discern in the
background because everyone had a military background, right, So it's you can't really
say they're in the conspiracy because theyhad a military background, because everyone did
everyone, right, Yeah, Isee what you're saying, And it was

(28:41):
much more honorable and less likely,well I was. I would say less
likely you're going to die. Butmost people in America who go to the
war today don't die, right,so most of us live today. Like
the amount of people who come backfrom war today is a lot better than
it was back then. But butyeah, it was like a lot more
people were involved in military service.It was a much more considered thing to
do, and it gave a lotof people direction. And so yeah,

(29:02):
when you start studying history and youget into the seventies, like fucking everybody
went to everybody went to the military, even like scumbags went to the military,
guys like Kerry Thornley who end upworking in CIAM disinformation operations, Like
because Terry Thornley goes on to runthe Discordian Society. The Discordian Society is
like this group of whacked out,fucking hippie losers that like would take not

(29:23):
even hippies, because I would sayit really came to it was after the
Hippi period. It really kind ofgame came to prominence, if you want
to even call it prominence. Butit was like Kerry Thornley in a bunch
of these weirdosum who would like eatacid and then like, you know,
talk shit about the government and stuff. But the entire time they were funded
by the CIA. Right, Soyou guys going here like, who are

(29:44):
you kidding? Right, I'm writingthe Kerry Thornley chapter in my book now,
and I'm going through his statements,knowing that he killed JD. Tippett,
knowing he was involved in the assassinationplot and set up Oswalden, was
involved in it for years, andthat he was an active CIA operative for
years. Then I when I readhim talk about his Communist leanings, to
when he's talking about his military stuffand why guys in the military didn't like

(30:07):
him because he was a Communist leaningguy, I'm like, you're so full
of shit. You're full of shit. You're making up a fucking story.
And as you're telling it, themore hippie you go with your story,
the more full of shit I knowyou are because you were CIA and you
were involved in the assassination of ourpresident. So anything you might say about
hippie shit is just right out thewindow. You're a fucking liar, you
know what I mean? So aboutwhat about what a Harrelson's dad do you

(30:29):
feel he was? He was definitelyin that circle, but he was no,
no, no, not even remotelyclose. I know who the three
tramps were, he was not oneof them. But no, he was
definitely a low level mob CIA guy. Here's the thing, like in the
fifties and sixties, there's no differentationbetween the mob and the CIA. The
CIA needed a hit man, whodid they go to They didn't have their
own internal camps, then right,they went to the mob. They didn't

(30:52):
have their own hit man at thetime. They were just developing that stuff
by the time Kennedy came around.But the CIA mostly outsourced that shit,
Like they outsourced a lot of itto the Corsicans, like they had a
relationship with the French. Yeah,like they had all kinds of They would
just contract stuff out like they wouldn'teven they wouldn't get their hands dirty.
But I think, um, overthe decades, I think that changes.

(31:15):
I think like somewhere along the lines, like you got a pretty fucking heavy,
rigorous assassination program buried deep within theporitary intelligence. Yeah, they're not
going to the right and that's becauseyou remember the whole name of the game
is plausible deniability, right, Like, so the entire notion of spycraft or
tradecraft and everything they fucking do inas far as the trickery, the whole

(31:41):
reason they do that is so theycan deny they had anything to do with
an operation. That is it theygo. They spend billions upon billions of
dollars every year just so they cango. Wasn't us right? You know?
Is that simple? And I haveall these guys passed away you're talking
about no man, no, andthis no, this brings me a crossroads

(32:02):
because I just found out, liketwo weeks ago, I got one of
my guys out doing research. WilliamSeymour is still alive and he fucking lives
in Houston. He started a fuckingland surveying company. He's like eighty six.
I'm sure it's his children who arerunning the business now, but from
what I can tell, he's stillfucking alive in Houston, And I don't
know that I got the cajones togo up there and talk to the guy.

(32:24):
Like it's never been my method ofresearch. I'm a document analyst,
really is what I do. I'ma former cop investigator, and I analyze
documents like I would go up thereand I'd want to punch the dude in
the face. I don't have theAnybody who knows me and knows my work
and my temperament knows I don't havethe patience to go milk some dude for

(32:45):
weeks to get information out of him. I'm gonna be like, bitch,
I know you did it, giveit up, right. So if anyone
out there actually does this kind ofstuff and talks to suspects, William Seymour
is still alive, and I wouldlove for someone to go confront him in
person, because he's one of theonly one of two people on the planet
that I know of that know exactlywhat happened to Kennedy exactly, Like know

(33:06):
who pulled the fucking trigger, knowwhat their role was, know that Lee
Harvey Oswald was not present that day, and he's he knows it. And
at eighty six, are you gonnawant to spill the beans at eighty six?
I mean maybe on your deathbed.I don't know. That's It's something
that's a weird thing that some ofthese guys are all about the deathbed confession
and some of these guys will takethe ship to the beyond, you know.

(33:27):
And so I don't understand these guyswho in any secret societies at all
freemation, I don't know any ofthat. I don't know. I mean,
I just don't know. Yeah,um, all of these guys seem
to have some kind of connection tothat. I don't put much too much
weight. Now, those are recruitingmechanisms nothing more. They pull you into
recruitment for various operations of various agendas. But like not necessarily for I mean,

(33:51):
the CIA is balls deep and allthat shit, right, So like
every to me, everything everything funnelsback to the CIA, and then the
CIA takes their orders from Tel Aviv. That's the conpecking order. And so
when it comes to the secret societyshit, I just to me, it's
like, oh that again. It'smore of an annoyance and a hindrance to
research than anything. So, likeyou said, this had been in the

(34:12):
works and plan for minimum three yearsbefore the event happened. You're well,
the setup of Oswald goes back adecade, like because they were planning on
I think they were planning on repurposinghim as another spy, right, not
not for the assassination, but Ithink when he got back from the Soviet
Union, I think that they initiallyplanned to repurpose him and get him into
Cuba. That's my that's my understandingof the series of events. However,

(34:36):
the planning for the assassination came downin early February or March of sixty three.
And we know that because the setupof Oswald started in March of sixty
three, with the ordering of theguns, the ordering of the car Connor
rifle and the fucking the handgun,the revolver or a Smith and Wesson.
Those happened in March, and sowe and for two Lee Harvey Oswald.

(34:58):
So we know one hundred percent certaintythe setup of Oswald began at the latest
March of sixty three, so itimatedin the works. I believe that it
actually had gone down a little earlier, not too much earlier, within weeks
of a meeting of an organization calledPermandex, which was a Massad front company,
which was like the board of directorsmade up of like mobsters and CIA

(35:21):
and Massad and like all kinds ofscumbags. Right, So that's where if
you're gonna talking about conspiracy, whichI fucking never do because I hate the
goddamn word because it belittles everything Ifucking do in life. Um, those
those actually happened in the Board ofdirectors meetings. That's where this ship goes
down. It goes down in theBoard of directors for like the Recording Industry
Association of America. Okay, soimagine this. I remember back in the

(35:43):
oh you're kind of young. Idon't know if you remember this, but
in the eighties there was a bigpush to get labels onto music, like
warning labels, like explicit fucking lyrics. That was all done by the PMRC,
the Parents Music Recording Something something right, that was theganization behind that.
Well, that was actually a frontorganization for the Recording Industry Association of America,

(36:04):
who was actually behind making the records. So the people behind making the
records were the ones actually out therepushing to get the labels on there.
And who the fuck was on theborder directors of the RIAA at the time,
Jack Valente, the guy who shotKennedy from the Knoll, was the
single man behind the push for thePMRC, the censorship in music and all
that stuff, just like he hadcensored in in movies with the rating system.

(36:25):
Right, So the guy who killsKennedy from the Knoll ends up being
probably the greatest censor the world hasever seen, which is I think is
relevant because of all the censorship that'sgoing on today, right, all the
stuff we're seeing today I think connectsto me directly to Kennedy because of Jack
Valenti and how he was like thecheerleader of censorship for his whole fucking life.
I mean, that was his role. That was ultimately his role in

(36:45):
Hollywood starting in sixty six, youknow, to control the narrative, to
control the propaganda, and so tome, Jack Valenti has had far more
of an impact on the world becauseof his propaganda than even the fact that
he shot Kennedy. You know whatI mean, there's never been I was
born in seventy six, and thatmeans that every single film and TV show
that I ever watched growing up evergot Jack valenti seal of approval on it,

(37:09):
right, He had to sign offon everything, say something fu.
Yeah, it's it's incredible. It'sthe most unbelievable thing in the world.
That's why most people will never believeit. You know, Um, I
even show people who know Kennedy stuffwell, like my work on showing that
he was a shooter on the knoll, and they're like they can't grasp in
their head that that that I'm thatI got the information right, you know,

(37:30):
it's because it's it's it's the seriesof events is kind of well,
it's been brushed over a lot tome, Like Jack Valenti, this guy
the way you're describing him, likehe was pretty well off then, like
he he had plenty of money,Like what was what was he getting out
of this? Just like bloodthirsty power, that's what they all want. Yeah,

(37:52):
yeah, So And the funny thingis like most of the things that
he did most people don't ever know, and he won't ever be remembered for
yeah right, and he he can, you know, live out his life
and you know, keep this dirtylittle secret to himself. But at the
end of the day, Like sothey had started planning this earlier on in

(38:14):
sixty three, he said February Marchish, what was the motivation at that
time? Was it a speech givenby JFK? Was it actions taken?
So you're gonna hear people talk alot of shit about like Vietnam. He
was gonna pull out of Vietnam.Well, that motherfucker just spent six billion
dollars on helicopters and airplanes in themonths leading up to the assassination. He

(38:34):
was not pulling out of Vietnam.He was repositioning. He might have been
posturing to be like, hey,don't fuck with me, or else I'll
move the troops out, or youknow, he was. He was not
pulling out of anything. He hadalready committed financially, So you're not going
to commit to a war financially andthen uncommit. He just don't do that.
The wheels of the wheels are alreadyin motions. So it wasn't about
Vietnam. It wasn't about the FederalReserve. Like he made a change to

(38:55):
how the Federal Reserve notes get printedthat stayed in effect after he got killed.
He wasn't killed because of that.It's ridiculous. He was killed because
the Israelis were developing a nuclear bomband his number one priority in the world
was nuclear deepliferation, which everyone knowsbecause he was even talking to Kruz Jeff.
He was talking directly to the headof fucking Russia about getting rid of

(39:16):
nukes, right, That's how importantit was to him. And so the
only two countries in the world atthe time to have nukes were America and
Russia. And then what happens next. Then we get some betrayal by the
French and the Argentinians who provide enoughmaterial and building supplies for the Israelis to
build a nuclear reactor. And thenthe jeb Desert in the town of Demona,

(39:37):
where they swore to Kennedy for yearsit was just to make a nuclear
power. But they Kennedy knew thatwas bullshit, and he knew that they
had been stealing uranium from us herein America from Apollo, Pennsylvania plays a
company called NUMEC, the Nuclear Materialsand Equipment Corporation. Okay, so the
Nuclear Materials Equipment Corporation started by ZalmanShapiro, pops up about nineteen fifty six.

(39:59):
They making nuclear materials for nuclear submarines, and they do have a contract
with the government. They're making nuclearmaterials for them. However, over a
period of about ten years, theyaccidentally lost somewhere around six hundred and fifty
pounds of uranium which ended up inthe nuclear reactor in Israel in the Najev
Desert, and Kennedy knew this.And Kennedy was going to pull the plug

(40:22):
on the entire country of Israel.And they're a parasite nation. They can't
exist without us without If the Arabnations that surrounded Israel thought for a split
second that America would not come totheir aid if they attack them, there
would be no Israel tomorrow. Butthe idea that we're always in the background
that will protect them if anything happensis what keeps them alive. Kennedy was

(40:45):
going to ensure that there was noIsrael. He was going to pull the
plug. He was going to pullall aid, financial and military and otherwise,
and there would be no Israel.That's why he was killed. And
then when you come to understand theinvolvement of the Massad front companies like permandex
permandex, it was it was anassassination factory. They were connected to the
assassination of Patrese La Mumba in theCongo, attempted assassinations of Charles de Gaull

(41:08):
in France. That's say they werekicked out of Switzerland because they were Boston
funding the oas the organization MS Secretof France, which was there like um
paramilitary wing of the Corsican mafia,a weird kind of relationship between the mob
and this like paramilitary organization. Butthey tried to take out Charles de Gaull.
It was funded by Permanex and sothey got kicked out of Switzerland relocated

(41:30):
to South Africa at the exact sametime they planned. They actually a month
before the assassination of Kennedy that theytook out Patrese Lamumba. And then when
Kennedy found out that the CIA wasbehind it and he didn't give the approval,
he fucking went ape shit on them. That's where you get the whole
Kennedy he was going to smash theCIA to the wind and all that crap.

(41:52):
Right, Um, but even that, do you think that had legs
to it then? Or well,I mean, that's here's the deal.
Like you have to understand the theglobal hierarchy, and let's be real,
like America's not the top of thechain. They're fucking henchman for what I
call the global Jewish establishment. Okay, so you want to know who called
us the fucking shots. It's acombination of the forces that control the State

(42:15):
of Israel, plus a number ofJewish organizations like the Jewish Agency, particularly
the Jewish Agency in Switzerland, theJewish Agency in Palestine. You want to
talk about some major terrorists stuff goingon down in Palestine in the forties,
they were behind all that stuff.Like these Jewish organizations are basically the creators
of global terrorism. Menachem Began,who was the head of the Urgun at

(42:37):
the time, in nineteen forty six, blew up a hotel in Palestine called
the King David Hotel. It's consideredthe very first act of political terrorism,
Okay, and it was done wasdone by a Preisraeli Jew. And so
that pre Israeli Jew was also standingin daily Plaza wearing an apron on November
twenty second, sixty three, rightin the front row. So when you
see guys in when you see guysat the Kennedy assassination standing in the front

(42:59):
row wearing an apron, that's notjust a weird can go to go incidence.
He did it on purpose, right, So, but yeah, it's
the Cabal is like this organ It'slike this even today, it's like this
combination of like American and Israeli intelligenceperiod, and they are the henchman of
what I call the global Jewish establishmentwho is behind everything. It's it's quite

(43:21):
ironic that Suran Suran was a Palestinianthat chilled his brother. Oh yeah,
well, there's no irony there atall. That was extremely well planned.
I mean, that was on thathappened on the one year anniversary of the
Sixth Day War, like, andit was blamed on a Palestinian. Holy
shit, could could you? CouldIsrael have given any more of a message?

(43:42):
Right? Like? Because that goesback to the relationship with the Israelis
and the mafia. Okay, peopledon't understand the American mafia. Most people
think of the American mafia. Theythink like Al Capone and they think of
the Godfather and a bunch of fuckinguh forget about it, like Italian.
Right. No, the Bob wasrun by Jews. Okay, was run
by Jews from nineteen thirty three onward. So you have Mayer Lanski, who

(44:04):
was the boss of all bosses ofall time, like period. He was
way bigger than Capone, even thefive Families in New York, the genevese
all that, Like Mayor Lanski wasa Jew, and he ran the mob
from nineteen thirty one, thirty two, thirty three ish all the way till
the nineteen seventies. Yeah, andhe never went to jail ever. He
finally went on the run in thenineteen seventies, and so what did he

(44:27):
do. He ends up fleeing toIsrael, and Israel gave him a travel
visa and then he continued to evadeAmerican authorities until he died. So but
yeah, he ran the mob thelast the Sicilians. When people think of
Italians running the mob, but they'rereally thinking, is Sicilian Italians? That's
what they're really thinking of when theythink of the Godfather, you know.
But the Sicilians only ran them outfor ten years from nineteen twenty one to

(44:49):
nineteen thirty one. After that itwas Mayor Lanski who ran the show.
And so yeah, Jews ran themob, not particularly Italians. Right.
So that's like the biggest misnomer ofthem all that most pe will don't ever
hear about. And that relationship cameabout after World War Two nineteen forty six,
immediately after the war. Um whatI call pre Israeli Zionists, Um,
the guys who actually went on toform the state of Israel. They

(45:10):
actually were involved in all kinds ofterrorist stuff through various organizations that are gone,
the Stern Gang, the haganah Um, and they were just like murdering
people to try to get a Jewishstate, right, And so what they
did in America was they came overhere and they formed a relationship with the
mafia via Meyer Lansky, and thenlike here this is all the other fucking
famous Jewish mobsters, Okay, BugsySiegel, Albert Anastasia Lepki, buck Alter,

(45:36):
Mickey Cohen. You know, thesethese are the biggest names of the
mafia, and they're all Jews,right, And people just like forget about
the fact that they're fucking Jews becausethey're in the mob. So that's why,
right that you name it. Andand then and then you have like
people are like, oh, wellJack Ruby couldn't have been mobbed because he
was Jewish. And I'm just likefucking Jesus right, Like these people don't

(45:57):
understand nothing about nothing. Um,yeah, that's my biggest grip with like
Kennedy researchers. They don't understand shitabout shit, like they still ask they
there are Kennedy researchers who will stillsay Jack Ruby's a Jew, how could
he be mob And I'm like,you're the dumbest people ever like anti semitic.
Yeah, I don't even fucking Idon't even like watch my words anymore.
I don't even mince my words becauseI've been doing this so long.

(46:19):
I know exactly what I'm saying,and I'll debate anybody over anything that comes
out of my fucking mouth at anypoint in time. So when the words
have come out of my mouth signanti semitic, they usually are, but
they're usually fact as well. I'mjust I'm just I know, but I
know, I get that all thetime. Like that's why people tune in.
I'll be on doing Day zero,people like, oh, I'm gonna
tune in here, Core, You'retalking about the Jews, And I'm like,

(46:42):
what the fuck kind of reputation doI have? Jesus, Well,
that's what they canceled all in Benjamentfor. Yeah, but he's a little
bit more, he's a little morein your face and oh yeah, he's
a little bit about the history.Yeah, And he's like and he's not
going to sit here and explain toyou the history of Zionism and how that
they're really fucking us. There's likeit's the Jews, right, and like
you can't do that. You haveto give some historical background to what you're

(47:05):
talking about. You know, soas far as World War two and the
foundation of Israel in nineteen forty eight, Like what, how how did that
kind of lay the foundation for JFKcoming after and you know this all tying
together or do you think there's youknow, major connections there as far as

(47:25):
you know what played out in WorldWar two the lead up to the JFKs.
Yeah, it's like, so Itell everybody it's impossible to understand one
without understanding the other. And that'svery true, but it's very also it's
very difficult for me to sit hereand be like they're connected because of A,
B and C. It's more aboutthe overall growth of Zionism and the
lies of Zionism that's spread because theHolocaust is straight bullshit, such nonsense.

(47:49):
God, there was not even sixmillion Jews in Europe at the fucking time.
It's ridiculous. There were no gaschambers. Like I'm an expert on
the fucking camps. There were nogas chambers. They were built after the
war as props to sell to tourists. Right. So when you come to
understand all that stuff and you cometo understand how the Zionist forces that were
fighting Hitler, because that's who Hitlerwas fighting, right, Hitler was fighting
the Allies. But the Allies we'vebeen conquered as the West for a hundred

(48:12):
years, right, and so likeit was over for us before you and
I were ever born. We're menwithout country, I mean. And so
Hitler was fighting Communists and Zionists.That's who he was fighting. That's who
the fucking Great War was about.It was about Jewish forces trying to take
out the person who was pointing outthat there's a Jewish conspiracy, right,
That's what World War two was reallyabout, and the destruction of the Ottoman

(48:35):
Empire to paved the way for therise of the State of Israel, which
is the biggest conspiracy theory, legitimateconspiracy theory of the twentieth century, going
back like thirty years before the Stateof Israel even formed so well, and
even back in the nineties, BillCooper was getting called the called the anti
Zionists for putting the Protocols of Zionand is behold the Pale of Horse book.

(48:57):
Right, I don't know much aboutthe protocols of Zion. There isn't
a lot of controversy over it,but which is kind of stupid because like,
you know, everyone's like the peoplewho are saying it's it's like a
forgery and stuff, It's like,well, the same exact things are being
said openly by fucking prominent Zionists.So it's like not much of a stretch
that this would be a real book. You know, well if you simply
state facts, like, um,these people happen to be Jewish and they

(49:20):
happen to be in places of power, Like how is that anti Semitic?
I mean we're just speaking factually here, like, well, these people aren't
even Semitic. These are white people. Like Semitic means you're brown, basically
what it means. It means you'refrom the Mediterranean, you speak a Semitic
language, and you're brown and culturalappropriators. However, religion can be a
race, like right, right,right, right, Well, there wasn't

(49:42):
a whitejewan planet are still seven fortya d and they are from the area
of the Ukraine, the former KhazarianEmpire, okay, and so they were
forced to convert by the Russians.This is where the origin of this Russian
hatred that stem that that continues throughto this very day. Right, Um,
So the Russians forced the Kaisars tocon to one of the Abrahamic religions
because they followed a religion called Tangridism, which is like what Attila the Hun

(50:05):
was, or was it Genghis Khan. I always mixed those two guys up,
but it was like a black magicshit, I mean, human sacrifice
and all that stuff. So thenthey were forced to convert to an Abrahamic
religion. They chose Judaism, andthen they created what's called Babylonian Talmudism,
which is like this modern what ismodern day Judaism, which was really formed
on a foundation of black magic.Has nothing to do with the Talmud,
has nothing to do with the Judaismfrom before Christ. That's all shit that

(50:29):
was connected to the Israelites, whowere about as black as fucking night.
Okay. Those motherfuckers were slaves inegs. Yeah, and these people were
like the lowest of the casts,right. The Israelites were considered the bottom
rung of the cast system there,but there was, but most of the
Israelites were really spread out throughout theSahara into North or Ethiopia. And like

(50:51):
the oldest Jewish temple in the worldis the Shushan Temple. That bitch is
in Iran. Okay, So likethe when the white Jews come in and
say that this land of Israel isours as biblical, they don't know what
the fuck they're talking about. Theland of Israel biblically stretched half of fucking
Africa halfway through the Middle East.It was massive, and it was basically
the evolution of the Canaanites, right, So this has nothing to do with

(51:15):
a bunch of white Jews today.Zero. They have a bunch of cultural
appropriators. They fucking moved in ona land that isn't theirs, and they're
fucking using misinterpreted biblical bullshit to justifytheir being there. And it's ridiculous.
I mean, the highest rates ofskin cancer in the Middle East are white
people in fucking Israel. It's crazy. You know, they're not supposed to
be there well, and you knowthey had been kicked out of how many

(51:38):
countries throughout history, it's well overa hundred, but it's well, it's
more than a thousand individual incidents.There's actually books that document all of them,
and that all stop and when youactually start to study that, none
of that stuff actually started until theMiddle Ages till the twelve because they because
nobody ever heard of a white Jewin the world, nobody ever really knew

(51:59):
what Jews were until one hundred andAD because you have these Kisars who grow
converts, right, But then intwelve hundred they continued. Between seven forty
a d And twelve hundred eighty theycontinued. They're like black magic shit,
and it was spilling over into theneighboring territories. And so the Russians were
like that to yet, fuck thesepeople, and they invaded and they drove

(52:19):
the most of the population out ofthat region, which is now the Donbass,
which is where the war's going ontoday, which is why the war
is so significant in my opinion.The fucking Russians just annexed the true Jewish
homeland. And therefore that's what thisis really about, right, That's what
this is really about, way moreimportant than anything modern that's going on.
These people hold thousand year grudges likefucking legit, legit, right, Oh

(52:43):
you did this to my ancestor,I must have vengeance, like one percent,
that is real. Yeah, yeah, that's what this all this anti
Russian hatred is about, as allcomes from the fucking former Kisars who were
driven out of the area. SoI recently watched that jail Or Hitler Verse,
the Two World Order documentary, whichwas made years ago, but I

(53:07):
had finally watched it a couple ofweeks ago, So it's kind of ironic
we're having this discussion. Well,honestly, like, I've seen all those
videos, and while they do presentsome good information, ultimately they present a
lot of information in a manner whichI kind of feel like I'm being propagandized
as I'm watching. You can havetrue propaganda, I mean there can be
propaganda that's true. I mean thatI wasn't like I'm gonna go join the

(53:30):
SS, right, But no,what I tell people is because only two
things that people should ever fucking reallyturn to, and that's mind comp and
then there's a I have a PDFof all of Hitler's speeches about a thousand
pages. That's all you need.You don't need to be watching none of
those videos. You want to takethe words directly from the man himself,
and when you come to listen towhat he was saying and you understand the
historical context, you're like, holyshit, was he really the bad guy

(53:52):
this whole time? Right? Yeah? Wild the story. That's that's my
next book after I finished this Kennedybookcause I'm doing I'm gonna spend probably fucking
five years putting together the definitive bookon World War Two. It's crazy,
well, and you know, youalways hear like every politician before they take
office, you know, they haveto, you know, take that pledge
to defend Israel at all costs.And you know, I think it says

(54:15):
a lot about a group, apowerful group of people, when they're immune
from criticism. And there's no othergroup of people on the face of the
earth that is as immune of criticismas the Jews. Right, But it
seems like people are catching on moreand more to the bullshit, you know,
right, and then calling everyone antiSemitic as an actual political fucking strategy.

(54:38):
You know, It's it's hilarious atthe end of the day, because
there's anti Zionist Jews, so arethose anti Zionist Jews anti Semitic, like
do they hate themselves that? It'slike, well, it's really funny because
the Zionists, like when you reallyget into the true Zionist ideology, there's
like two camps. There's like anatheist camp and there's like an occult camp,
but none of them are like additionalJewish camp, right, the occultists

(55:04):
are fucking weird. Like when youstart to look into like look into like
all this bullshit transgender nonsense is beingpushed on us today, and you start
to look into who's funding that stuff, and you'll find one of the biggest
pushers of that is the Aspen Institute. The Aspen Institute is run by a
woman named Margot Pritzker. Well,when you start digging into the Pritzkers,
her husband is a big famous Jewishbillionaire. If they have spent millions of
dollars dedicated to translating the ancient fuckingbiblical texts, like there's like one in

(55:30):
particular, the Zohar or the Zohan, I forget what it's called, but
like they spent years, a decadeand millions of dollars to translate these ancient
texts. So all of these peoplewho are pushing this bullshit on us cultural
nonsense, this cultural undermining. They'reall occultists. They are legitimate occultists who
are fucking looking into the to translatethe ancient texts to find the secret hidden

(55:52):
meanings in there. You know,every Zionist clings to what they believe are
the hidden meanings of Talmud, youknow, so, and the Talmud really
wasn't even written until like five fiftya d. Long after Jesus, like
long after Jesus. See, theOrthodox Jews follow the Torah if there are
any real there are some Neuterrite Cartaand some of these New Yorks, you

(56:15):
know, Orthodox sets are very antiZionists, and they are very much Tora
based, not Talmud, but ofJews in the world follow the Babylonian Talmut.
And that book is like it basicallysays that, um, white people
are animals, you know, likenon Jews or animals, and we can
you know if you if you killone, and it's just no big deal,
right right, like um, ifyou have there was one that was

(56:37):
hilariously if you have a if youhave a Goyam friend and his and his
ox dies, um, you shouldfeel worse for the ox than if you
should feel worse about the odds dyingthan if the goyam dies. Like it
was like, what, Yeah,there's a lot of fucked up shit there.
I've heard about people like us thatare Goiam, yeah that's wild.

(56:59):
Yeah, man, it's the fuckingtrip. Uh So I wanted to ask
your personal opinion on so, youknow, at the highest levels you have
like people ways say the jesuit's hercontrol, or you know that there's this
black pope, black nobility at thevery top. Do you feel yeah,
shit, So that's like to me, that's like overt ridiculous. Look over

(57:22):
to the right for this ridiculous shitwhile we fuck you to the left.
Like, right, that's what allthat is because because you want to you
want to look at who's like controllingthis shit. You give me a list
of who owns the central banks,right, that's just controlling shit, right.
I don't see any need for anylike black nobility or running that fucking
bullshit on that. You know,like, give me a list of the
who runs the central banks and that'syour illuminating Yeah, I'm just curious if

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you see like some you know,Catholic Jewish double sided coin here. Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, ohyeah. Did that tie into uh JFK
as well him being a Catholic.No, now I think that was totally
irrelevant. UM. But now there'sdefinitely like some weird overlap shit like UM
and people will say like the Vaticanwas infiltrated, which I really would not

(58:07):
doubt. The Vatican was no longerreally run by UM, the Jesuits or
there, it was actually infiltrated.Like if you if you study Malachi Martin,
look up Malachi Martin. Heard thename he was a Catholic priest,
but he was really a Jew andhe was an infiltrator, and like people
use him as an example of thingsthat he did to change and shape the

(58:28):
way that the Vatican operated. Andso yeah, it's very plausible, very
very plausible. Yeah, And it'sinteresting because like even in the mainstream movies,
you know, within this realm likeAngels and Demons and the Davinchi Code,
it's always free Masons and Catholics.You never hear about the you see,
I just look at these UM.I look at these like secret societies

(58:51):
as more like UM recruitment mechanisms thatwill cut across certain boundaries, like they're
the cover the yeah yeah, likeum or the ponds. I think it's
used to bring people into the fold. Like here's here's something. Here's an
interesting in fact, um, allof the Freemason lodges in America post the

(59:12):
settling of America, going back togoing back to like the fifteen sixteen hundreds,
they were all founded by Jews.All right, So what does that
What does that make the relationship betweenthe Jews and the Freemasons. I don't
know, but to me, itseems like it seems like a way to
recruit people into your cause, whetherthey're not necessarily of your ethnic persuasion or

(59:34):
ideology or you know, it's itgives you another layer of that you can
pull people in who are to doyour bidding, who are not necessarily of
your mindset initially, Like like Ilike um niacons, right, like the
Niacons in America, Like you talkyou talked about Rumsfeld and the whole bush
a minute, right. To me, a Niacon is a fucking American Zionist,

(59:54):
a non Jewish American zionist, right, So I see niacons as kind
of the same thing. It wasa way for the Zionists to bring people
into their mode of thinking without havingthem to be Zionists themselves. They were
neocons, right, so, samething, Like it was a recruitment mechanism
to get you to pull into somethingthat you normally wouldn't be associated with.
Right, That's what I think thesecret Society's are. It's the only thing

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that makes sense, and it's theonly reason that you would have loyalty to
people who are of a different silk, you know what I mean? Right,
so well, and it's like lifelongvictimhood if you can always you know,
have the safeguard of criticism from anyoneabout you know, the group you
say you're a part of, andtheir past deeds of doing harm to other

(01:00:37):
people. You know, it's likeany other group people would laugh at that
and say that's ridiculous, like wewould never do that. But with Jews,
it's like they're they're protected from anycriticism whatsoever. It's just mind blowing.
And you see, you know whatthey do to the Palestinians every given
fucking day. Yeah, it's it'sa shame. Proof is in the pudding,

(01:01:00):
Like that's that's that's who they areas a people. They are no,
they have no problem. It's takingwhat's not there. I mean,
journalists that even go into that areaget fucking oh yeah, it's disgusting.
Um. And the reason, here'sthe thing there, why don't we do
anything about it? Because they killedKennedy and they took control of our country

(01:01:21):
on November twenty second, nineteen sixtythree. That's how this whole thing comes
back. That's why they're immune fromeverything. They're exempt from everything. So
why APAC doesn't have to register asa foreign agent even though they fucking lobby
America on behalf of Israel. Theyare the very definition of a foreign agent.
They don't have the register. They'reexempt from everything because i November twenty
second, they implanted their own puppetpresident who they've been grooming for twenty years

(01:01:43):
in Lyndon Johnson, right with JackValenti as his handler in the White House,
who was a direct line to theCIA and the CIA direct line back
to Tel Aviv. So so,and then when Bobby was running for office,
Lyndon Johnson was about to step downand he would have taken in uh
London's place. Correct, Yes,they were running on the same side he

(01:02:05):
was up against. He was runningup against Nixon, right, yes,
yeah, yeah Nixon, which iskind of ironic with where we're at in
this upcoming election with Bobby's son runningum to take out the income comment Biden
as wild, it's people don't understandhow historically relevant. Yeah, even if
you don't like Bobby Kennedy today,the historical significance of what he's doing is

(01:02:30):
fucking unbelievable. Like someone who look, it's a mind fuck on a level
of someone who understands like the theintricate nature and the climate during the Kennedy
assassination and Kennedy's role in history,to see what he's doing today is like,
holy fucking unbelievable. It's like asif you were stranded on a fucking
planet somewhere and all of a sudden, Luke Skywalker swooped down to save you.

(01:02:50):
You'd be like, what what thefuck? I mean? That's where
we're at. People don't understan,people don't see it. Do I know
what's gonna happen in a selection?You goddamn, no fucking way, I
fucking and no way, no clue. Um. I have a feeling we're
gonna get fucked as usual. Bidenwill probably state president with two hundred million
votes and will only be one hundredand ninety million people who voted. You
know, it's going to be ridiculous, but it's it's crazy and it's historic

(01:03:14):
and it's a powder keg at thesame time, because if shit goes bad,
shit can go really fucking bad.Right, if they were to do
some shenanigans like pull Biden and StickleyGavin Nusom in there, you might have
a fucking legitimate revolution on your handswith guns and bombs in the whole nine
yards. Like I can see thempulling some shady shit, switching out the

(01:03:35):
candidate at the last minute and thenjust funneling him in with fucking fake elections
in those easy states Maricopa County inArizona, in Georgia and Wisconsin. Those
three states is the only states theygotta fuck with again, right, that's
what they're gonna do. Um,We're fucked is a nation. Now.
What we need is as a largegroup of angry x Navy seals who are

(01:03:57):
willing to do what's necessary and totake out the right people and to shape
things with the gun instead of apen. That's all we need. But
we'll never get it, because thiscountry is a bunch of fucking pussies and
everyone's fucking gay and it's fucking disgusting. It's fuck. What the fuck,
dude, We're fuck that's why we'reat Yeah, we're all right. I
have a hard time believe in Bidenwill do another four years. Like I

(01:04:21):
feel like every clone he's tripping overhimself or fucking stumbling over his words,
like well, I love fucking uhCalamity Harris. Kamala Harris last week said
that they had to reduce population,which is hilarious. She's giving a speech
on she's giving a speech on likeenvironmental stuff, and she said, and
if we can reduce population, shemeant to say reduced pollution, but she

(01:04:45):
said reduced population. Yeah. Wow, so dumb, like our founding fathers
would literally be like they would seewhat's going on and maybe like take me
to the gun store right now,right Yeah, I mean I could almost
see Kamala being promoted before, likeNewsom being slid in there or something,
but they know everyone hates her Manand Newsom slick and I Field too,

(01:05:10):
Like do you feel people actually likeBiden like is he'll defend him because they're
a team. They're on his seatthere, They're on the same team,
right, That's why you get peopledefending him. Yeah, I mean I
I'd love to envision a world whereh Kennedy stands and a chance and you
know, has an actual shot thistime around. But I don't know,

(01:05:31):
it's getting interesting with if he canget onto the ballot at all, because
they have some rules on how toget it on the ballot. But then
again, when you look at likewho runs for president, there's like fifty
candidates and you're like, who thefuck is this guy? Right? You
know, like, uh, whatwas that one guy? Vermin Supreme?
A guy who wore like the wizardhat and shit Tiger King ran right right

(01:05:51):
right. So as long as hecan get his name on the ballot where
someone could actually put a check nextto him, he will at least take
enough votes from Biden to give itto Trump. Yeah, and that brings
up the whole are they going toput Trump in jail? Thing? If
you ask me, in a perfectsituation, Trump ends up in jail,
Biden ends up dead, and Kennedygets it by default. That would be

(01:06:15):
perfect. Not that I like Democrats, but he's not a Democrat. Not
in today's world, he's he's ahe's a he's a Kennedy Democrat, which
means he's a sixties Democrat, whichmeans he's a moderate to center conservative today.
You know, I mean, justas stands on the jabs, people
would say is a conservative for thatalone, which is ridiculous because I don't
understanding. Oh you're correct, butit just goes to show stupid people are

(01:06:39):
because conservatism and having anything to dowith medical anything has nothing to do with
each other. Right, like's totallyso ridiculous, Like I've given up,
Like I don't think people get it, Like people still look for answers.
We're fucking doom, bro, Likethere ain't no, there ain't no solution
to this. What he's not hedon't no, so fuck solution to this?
No? No, do you makesure you got enough to fucking be
you know, Okay, when theship goes down, have some guns,

(01:07:01):
have a lot of bitcoin, andyou'll be fine. Right, That's what
I mean. No, No,we're doomed. Like there's like I'm beyond
black pilled, like it's over,like the fucking we hit the quintessential iceberg
on November twenty second sixty three.Everything that happens post Kennedy is a fucking
joke to me. Literally, likethis is where we have not quite hit
the water, but we've been sinkingfor fifty fucking years. It's it's it's

(01:07:25):
done. There's no saving us.So what do you think the next big
event coming down the pipes is?Do do you think it's another uh plandemic
come down? I don't think we'regonna be shit for a long time because
they've awoken the sleeping Bear and peopleknow now. You just go on Twitter
and nobody believes the moon landing anymore, right Like, nobody, Like even

(01:07:48):
smart people who have have TV showsare like, this looks kind of stupid,
right like, so like everything iscoming and COVID. They ruined it
with COVID, right, So theypushed for years and years and years.
They pushed like the lone Assassin theory, they pushed Oswald did it. Then
in this mentality, they just assumedwe would buy the COVID bullshit and we
didn't get it didn't happen. Itfucking fell apart because they rushed it.

(01:08:12):
Um. I'm an expert at propaganda. I spent years studying the development of
propaganda systems in America through the OSSand the Psychological Warfare Executive and all these
fucking organizations. And so I hadjust gotten done studying all that shit when
COVID hit and I'm like, youmotherfucker's I'm I'm I'm seeing the same fucking
playbook. This is the same playbookI just read about from World War Two,

(01:08:35):
and you're doing it to me now. I was like, oh,
fuck yourself. I called bullshit onCOVID on day one, not because I
had any information, but because thepatterns of propaganda were so obvious to anyone
from the fucking jump right. Itwas like videos coming out of China,
the people fallen dead, like ohso fun, everything was so jinky.

(01:08:57):
I'm just like I'm like, I'mlike, this is gonna be big,
whatever it is. And then everyonewhen they started to say you can't leave
your house, I was like,fuck you right, I can't leave your
fucking house, even Dick. Ialmost got arrested in a fucking ace hardware
because I was moving and I justneeded like some supply, some basic shit,

(01:09:19):
right, And I walk in thereand this is like the first day
of the mask. Shit. Theynever had any mask, shit ever anywhere.
And I walk into this ACE Hardwareand like, if these people were
really worried about the COVID, theywould have stayed more than six feet for
me. But I had at leastfour employees come and run after me and
chase me down and get in myface like this, and I'm like,

(01:09:41):
I'm like, I'm like, thisis not real. This is not real.
I'm like, Okay, there isa god and he's punking me.
That's what's happening right now. RightI just didn't I couldn't fucking believe it.
And it's just now that people arewaking up to what really happened and
I haven't. Like, I madea fucking COVID video. It's almost four
hours long and I made it Julyof twenty twenty. You should watch it

(01:10:02):
because I fucking made it. Ifucking nailed it. I solved COVID fucking
three years ago. Like yeah,nobody has even Okay, So COVID was
made by Ralph Barrick at University ofChapel Hill, North Carolina. That's where
it came from. And I calledit three fucking years ago. And then
just a couple of months ago,the leaked emails from doctor g where she's
like, Ralph Barrick, what thefuck is your problem? You know?

(01:10:24):
We did these experiments in your lab, right, Those came out like six
months ago, and I told you, I called it was so there,
it was right. That was thatmaybe that was totally like vindicating, and
like I couldn't believe. I wentback and watched it, and I was
like, holy shit. I waslike, I nailed everything. And I
fucking honestly I put like like threeweeks of effort into the researcher and covert
COVID. It was so overt,it was so obvious. It was so

(01:10:48):
obvious. And you want to knowwho's gonna fucking make the COVID virus.
You want to know who's gonna makethat the world expert? Who's the world
expert? Ralph Barrick? Holy shit? And then everything else came out.
I was like, duh. Ifyou're gonna fucking if you want to make
like the most powerful nuclear bomb,who do you go to? So you
go to the top nuclear guy?Right, Not much of a fucking big
mystery. There's not a million peoplewho could do these jobs, you know

(01:11:10):
what I mean, Very very fewpeople who could pull this stuff off,
right, That's like it's like bitcoin, like for me, like Satosha Nakamoto,
the mystery guy who made bitcoin.It's the easiest mystery that has ever
existed in the fucking world, andnobody can figure it out. Okay,
did you get on that train early? Oh yeah, I've been on the
train for a fucking a decade already. God damn smart man. Well,

(01:11:31):
I made a lot of money,but I blew a lot of money.
I made a couple hundred thousand dollarsreal quick. Let me start my business,
and I haven't worked since. Imean I work, I guess,
but I haven't had like a jobjob since. Congrats, brother. I
could go work at McDonald's to makemore fu money than I make now,
but I got. Yeah. Noprops to you, brother, and proud

(01:11:54):
of you for what you're doing.And you know, keep up the good
work. I'm glad somebody's out there, you know, putting putting the lives
to rest and calling people out whoare literally making money off lying to people
about what happened, you know,sixty years ago. So I'm glad there's

(01:12:14):
someone in doing the good fight.So thanks so much for coming on,
brother, I just wanted to askyou, do you have any ray of
hope for the future? No?Or is it complete black? No?
No? Buy bitcoins. That's theonly fucking hope you might have of anything.
Bitcoin, everything else. You're doomed, fight, politically, you name

(01:12:38):
it. You're fucking doomed. Wellwhat a bitcoin goes down? Bitcoin?
And going down? You don't thinkso? No, what about the digital
currency they're trying to push Never gonnahappen. Never. It's the dumbest thing.
When you understand money and you understandeconomics, and you understand the concept
of fungibility and how it's a requirementof all moneys, and you come to
realize that they're bullshit. CBDC justhas zero fund ability, meaning it's like

(01:13:01):
one dollar in the CBDC is notequivalent to another dollar in the CBDC.
When't you come to understand that andthat they can turn your money off?
This is such a joke. Thisis a bunch of children who don't understand
what they're doing. It's monopoly money. These idiots don't get that like it.
American money is borderline monopoly money asit is. This is just the

(01:13:23):
over to be over the top.Literally, monopoly money would have more fucking
value, right this fucking IOUs?All right brother? Um, well,
thank you all for listening out there. I hope you gained some of them
from this conversation, found a momentin presence throughout it. I send you
all peace and love, and Ihope you have a beautiful rest of the
week. Thanks for listening.