#181 - Quantum Healing w/ Odysseus Andrianos

Odysseus Andrianos is a Kinesiologist, expert in Taoist Healing Principles, author & coach. We discuss his Alchemy Healing Academy & Quantum Healing. Enjoy friends!

Link to Oddy's Book:
https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Awakening-Dawn-Human-Potential/dp/1735165964

Oddy's Linktree:
https://linktr.ee/odyandrianos

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Ascension of the Chessmen,diving into the esoteric, occult, spiritual,
and conspiratorial aspects of life, focusedon solutions to the problems we face
in our everyday lives. Let usascend above all differences. Let us be
the light in darkness, a breadthof fresh air to those who can hardly

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breathe, and together awaken into greatness. This is Ascension of the Chessmen,
with your host, Andre Middy.Welcome to the Ascension of the Chessmen podcast.
I'm your host, Andre Middy.Today's guest is a kennistysiologists expert and

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Twist Healing Principles author and coach.Ladies and gentlemen, hobbits and fairies,
give a warm welcome back to Odysseus. Andreanoskeness just which is the study of
human movement. Got my degree atSan Diego State, Go AZTECS. And
Yeah, first off, Andre,really a pleasure to be here and having

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the ability to come back here andgo a little bit deeper into the healing
arts. I'm really excited to discussthese topics. And I love the work
that you're doing with spreading wisdom acrossthe world. There's so much powerful wisdom
out there, but the challenges.There's a lot of BS, and I
really feel that a lot of stuffthat you're doing is getting people on your
podcast that are helping people to siftthrough that BS to find that gold.

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And that's the sense the essence ofAlchemy. And I run the Alchemy Healing
Academy. You can check me outat Alchemy Healing Academy dot com. And
I'm actually just about to launch nextmonth my Inner Circle group coaching program.
It's only thirty dollars a month,and the reason why I'm charging so low
is because I want to make mentaland emotional health available and affordable for everybody.
And in that school, we meetonce a week and I have a

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full library of over thirty lectures teachingmental and emotional health, quantum healing,
shadow work, all kinds of beautifuland of course I have my Shadow Weakening
book as well. So it's alittle promo for some of the stuff that
I do. If anybody's listening tothis later and wants to check out my
stuff, like I said, AlchemyHealing Academy dot com, and please reach
out if you want to apply tojoin my school. We don't just let
anybody in. You gotta know,you gotta be ready to do the work

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I'm saying for sure. But yeah, I'm excited to be here man,
and dive into these topics. Beautifulbrother. Yeah, I love I love
what you got going. It seemslike every time we talk you got something
new going on and you got morework coming down the pipes of just the
great work you're doing. Man,My goodness, and it's good timing too.
I just recently listening listen to theaudio book of the Alchemists, that

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classic Polo what's his name, Poloco Plo Colo, I think Polo Coello.
Yeah, great book, But tore listen to it right before this,
Uh, it's really lining up forme. So happy to have you
back, man. I guess wheredo we start with the quantum healing and

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how you got in this direction withthe work you're doing, and how it
all ties together for you as faras another tool to your tool belt in
terms of helping people to get backhome within themselves. Yeah. I First,
I'd love to talk about quantum healinga little bit, so just to
get people a little bit of abackground, like what is quantum healing?

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Quantum healing is based upon the principlesof quantum physics that everything in the universe
is made up of energy and thathow you consciously interact with that energy plays
a key role in your reality.And this relates specifically to psychology. And
the word psyche means soul in Greek, so it's essentially the study of the
soul and when we access the quantumfield, which we're basically like fish swimming

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in water, but we're humans swimmingin the quantum field, and most people
are unconscious to that quantum field.And the foundation of quantum healing is about
harmonizing energies of the mind, body, and emotions through a range of Eastern
healing principles of meditation, breathwork,and balancing of the energy within the body
at the subatomic level. So isthat pretty good explanation of what quantum healing

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is. Yeah, No, thatsums it up. I feel like I'm
already in it, but didn't realizethis, So yes, maybe I was
just getting lost the sauce there withthe wording, But yeah, that makes
perfect sense, man, And Ithink it's just another tool, dear tool
about to keep adding on. Andwhat was the inspiration behind the school and

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furthering your work that way, andextending and creating a space in a community
where you know, like minded individualscan get together and really get vulnerable and
open up about what we're all goingthrough and how we can all relate in
this process of the great work.Yeah, there were some great, great

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little nuggets there to speak on.So first off, what got me into
this? You know, when Iwas a teenager, I was like sixty
seventeen, and I was out herein the Bay Area and my father worked
in Hollywood, so I was alwaysaround filmmakers and successful entrepreneurs. So I
always to believed that whatever I did, I could be successful because like,
eighty percent of success is mindset,twenty percent of strategy. I'll say that
again, eighty percent of success ismindset, twenty percent is strategy. Oh,

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you have the best strategy in theworld. I'm sorry. If your
mindset is not on the point,you will still fail. And it's just
the cold row facts. So I'vebeen blessed to be around a lot of
very successful entrepreneurs in my life.But back to my point of being a
teenager, I was like, man, this system is whack. I was
like, look up, the worldlike pok to my credit card, Like,
wait, I'm just a number tothese banks. I don't think they
really care about me. And I'mlike, I'm paying taxes into a system

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that's bombing children in foreign countries.I don't want to harm children foreign countries.
Like I don't wonder why I'm payingtaxes into this system where these people
don't even know me. And sothat was kind of like my gentle awakening
as a teenager. I was like, I'm part of this broken system.
But the beauty of recognizing the brokennessis it creates an opportunity for us to
do deep inner healing work. Wehave to realize the brokenness than ourselves,

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and in essence, we're not actuallybroken. We're going through a deep healing
process. Everything that's happening in theworld right now, we're moving towards darkness.
The problem is people are not facingit. This is where we have
the drug epidemic, this is wherewe have the obesity crisis. This is
where we have so many people whoare doing everything they can to run away
from their pain. They do notwant to face themselves, and we are

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essentially when we do not face darkness. This is like the little nuggets of
shadow work. When we do notface darkness, we deliver ourselves to darkness.
And it's like your logo, theirascension to the chessman if the checkerboard.
And most people are so unconscious totheir unconsciousness. Let me say that
again. They are unconscious to theirunconsciousness. They're walking around like mine the

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zombies. Literally, some people arewalking around on so many freaking drugs,
and they're wondering, why am Inot getting better? Because you're numbing the
emotions you need to feel to actuallyheal yourself, and so they keep pointing,
coming back to why I got intothis. I was like, how
do I beat the system? Iwas like, I love working out.
I was a great athlete. Ilike, in high school, I set
the school record for jump. Iused to be able to three sixty dunks

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off the backward Like I was apretty good Yeah man, I had white
boy hops for sure, And Iwas like, oh, I can just
be a trainer for a living.So I started learning everything I could about
the human body, not my degreein kinesiology, as I mentioned, got
multiple fitness certifications, and by theage of twenty four, open my first
gym, and that was a dreamcome true. I was like, wow,

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I have this my own facility.It was about a thousand square foot
facility. I was able to liveabout my gym, and I just became
the super nerd studying and coaching andcoaching and coaching and coaching, and eventually
I was able to open a secondgym with one hundred and thirty million dollars
a year of corporation. So I'mworking with elite executives and whatnot, huge
corporation. I still work at theCEO today. She was actually inducted into
the Marine County Women's Hall of Fame, So like, I specialize in working

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with women like literally hall of famelegends, like people who do epic stuff.
And I'm not start trying to brag. It's just like I believe everybody
listeners, you're a legend. Stopplaying small, pretty want to be listening
to this. You're a legend.The reason why you hire a coach is
because you need somebody who shows youand mirrors that legendary status to you.
Like when I say that, myfather's a ten time nominee for Best Sound
Mixer. So I grew up withthe father who was a legend. My

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father was George Lucas's sound mixer.When I say the word legend, I've
been immersed in that stuff. Sowe all have those abilities. So a
lot of us come back to themindset pieces having the mindset, So mental
midges for mental giants, my friend, yeah, exactly, exactly well,
And so I keep I keep goingon different tangents. But basically, after
years of fitness coaching, having mydegree in kinesiology and emphasis and nutrition,

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teaching people how to get their dietright, how to exercise, I realized
that emotions were the root cause ofmost people's problems. Mindset was the cause
of most people's problems. I canmake your butt look good, I can
make your I could change your diet, but if your head is still full
of crap, you're not going tosee results. And so that's what got
me down, this working down thisrabbit hole of shadow work and quantum healing.

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I had some back injury that nowestern medicine doctor could fix. I
went to doctor's, therapists, allkinds of people, and it wasn't until
I went to a shaman who toldme I was holding onto emotional pain that
I was like, what I haveemotional pain being held on the body,
and that took me as I mentioneddown this rabbit hole of healing and realizing
how an Eastern medicine, how theemotions actually show up in the body.

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They say the issues are in thetissues. So I began to learn how
to clear my energetic field. I'dworked with a quantum healer who was healing
me from a distance. They werein Tahoe and they were accessing the quantum
field and actually I could actually feelthem working on my body. I was
like, what is this magic oris this an actual thing that everybody has

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the power to access? And sothat's why I was like, Okay,
I gotta learn about this. AndI've eventually worked the Oriental medical doctor who
within three sessions completely healed me.And he was like, I have a
year long program, and I signedup for that year long program. I'm
just passed halfway through that program gettingcertified as a quantum healer, and it's
amazing me. I'm doing distance healingsessions with people. I'm also doing in

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person sessions with people. I actuallyjust booked a call or a coaching session
with the mayor of my city ina couple of weeks. The key thing
here, Like, yeah, no, I'm really I'm super excited because the
everything that I'm doing, you know, like the whole coaching the most.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, man, because like, to me, the
lot of the coaching industry, likei'd say seventy eight percent, it's just

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people with big egos trying to sellcrap and most people don't need right,
Like seriously, I've been in thecoaching Yeah, it's like, oh,
like I watched an Ellen Wats video, I read the book called The Secret,
and you should hire me to helpcoach you. Like, there's some
great coaches out there too, Idon't want to like talk to but like
for me, it's just I'm sosick of being around mentally and emotionally ill

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people. And I know that it'sthe system that we live in. People
are more powerful than they think.And my whole vision is with the school
that I've developed, is to empowerpeople to know that they are a fan
legend. I don't want to custlee legends and teach people how to empower
themselves and heal themselves by understanding howthe emotions work in the body, how

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to face your shadow, how toheal yourself energetically. So essentially what I've
done as I blend shadow work withquantum healing. The shadow work helps me
to work with people psychologically, what'sgoing on within your mind, how's it
showing up in your body? Andwe figure out how it's showing up in
the body, then we use quantumhealing to heal you physiologically. So working
psychologically and physiologically. So I've beena coach for twenty years, so the

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psychology side a pretty damn good.I'm still learning as a healer. But
even I'm being blown away and howpowerful it is when I do like a
shocker clearing on people and all ofa sudden, like that energy I was
holding on too from a past relationship. I'll do a chord cutting ceremony with
somebody, like I did a sessionwith a guy out in Boston a few
weeks ago. He went through adivorce six months ago, and he's like,

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I still feel the energy of maxwife, and we did this ceremony
to cut the chord. Because alot of people don't realize when you get
married, you are standing under anall turn you are all turning reality,
You're putting on a ring. It'sa ceremony. So that's an example,
and we go through these ceremonies inlife, and what we need to do
is to go through the healing process. We have to create a ceremony around

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our healing process. You can dothis on your own too, but it's
just more powerful to have somebody who'san expert who's guiding you. That's why
I went and got mentored and taughthow to do this stuff properly because I
read a ton of books, andreading books is great, but you really
absolutely should get an authentic mentor toreally know what you're talking about and be
able to like feel the energy likeI'm starting, Like I can like feel
people's chokras, like damn that cleared? That was wild? How did I

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just do that? But the truthis, I'm not doing it. The
quantum field is doing it, andI'm just a catalyst or a mirror to
what people already have available within themselves. So that's some of the stuff that
I got going on. It's likeit's blowing my mind how powerful it is.
And my whole vision with like workingwith the mayors that just teach more
people and create awareness from mental andemotional health. I had a buddy died
from a phantom all overdose, orthis year my cousin died from alcoholism,

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and I'm f being pissed. I'mtired of seeing people suffer, and that's
why I'm doing this work, andI want to teach other coaches and healers
how to do this work too.It's beautiful, brother. I just wanted
to ask real quick, So withquantum healing and how how you describe it
and you know kind of the toolsand your tool belt, and how you
go about doing a session with someone. Is this similar to like working with

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tuning forks or reiki or is itall the same to you? Or how
do you differentiate or they just underthe same umbrella just to like not get
them confused. I guess yeah.And so like I'm not a rieki practitioner,
I haven'ten studying tuning forks a littlebit because you can use tuning forks
to access and work with the chakrasas well, and he look through the

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quantum heale. I'm not an expertin if I don't know something, I'll
admit it. What I do thoughwith the quantum healing and what I've learned
from this oriented medical doctor with overforty years experiences. I'm still I'm still
working with him. Is that?The first thing I do with people,
as I always do a psychological assessment. I figure out what's going on?
Where's the discomfort, what's where areyour blocks? So I always start,
like my first session with people,I spend about thirty to forty five minutes

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as session in the psychology, wego into shadow or figure what blocks with
trauma have you experienced? Then westart I started going like exam. I'm
like, okay, where's the painheld in the body? Then I get
again the quantum healing by assessing people'sassemblage point. Have you ever heard of
the assemblage point? I have not? Okay? Cool? Actually, like,
is there any way that you couldlike my screen? I guess I

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studow you make a lot easier.Actually had a picture ready to share if
we could. Is it allowing you? I'm trying it right now? All
right? Can you see my scream? Ye? All right? So basically

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the assemblage point it's over here,all right. And there's this guy named
John Whale. I had the bookhere somewhere. Yeah, so John Whale
the assemblage point, I have ithere, somewhere or whatever. So so
basically comes down to this. Sothe guy that wrote this book, he
actually mentored the guy that taught mehow to do this, And so it
happens is I'm able to assess wherethis assemblage point is at. It's supposed

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to be in the center of thechest and has a direct correlation to your
auric field. If your ooric fieldis weak, there is dark energy in
this world and it will get intoyour field, it'll get into your body,
it will cause you serious health problems. This is what Western doctors like
don't know anything about the energetic body, right few but most don't. So
first I assess where this is.Now, Like, let's say an example,
somebody's got a lot of anxiety,so they're taking anxiety pills, going

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to a therapist, and doing allthese things to fix the anxiety. Nothing's
going to change until they shift theassemblage point. That's in the part that
like in the book, but writtenby John Whale. He says that the
reason why they don't they don't teachthis in Western medicine because within three to
five sessions you can completely heal somebody'sanxiety. You can completely heal somebody's hallucinations
they're delirium, there dementia by reassessing, assessing, and realigning the assemblage point.

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And I was taught by this orientalmedical doctor to find where the assemblage
point isn't somebody to pinpoint it,and then I actually use a specifically cut
crystal to realign the assemblich point.Now it happens is you could do like
the first session. It may notstay in place, so it takes like
three to sometimes five sessions, butboom, it stays in place. And
then all of a sudden, anxietystarts to disappear, all of a sudden
anger starts to disappear. So thisis where it's even. It says in

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John Wale's book that people are wastinga ton of energy and money doing things
that are only dealing with the effects, not getting to the root. Excuse
me causes, and a lot ofthe stuff is hidden in Western medicine because
your health is a commodity in westernmedicine. You're not a human, you
are a commodity. And that's partof the mental illness in our society.
Now, are you with me onthe on the asseandwich point? Does that

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make sense when I share it.I'm loving this stuff. It's pretty powerful.
It's pretty powerful my asseandwich Point waslike way over here, and then
you did one session, it movedto here, and then by their third
session, boom, and like Ifelt so much like less stress and I
was like, oh my god,I don't even know that I needed this
boom my mind. So after Ido the assembwich point, then I assess
people's chakras, so like you cansee here right, and I like,

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I've found this picture on the internet. I think it's like some of Joda
spends this stuff where I can assesslike where your sacral chakra's out, your
solar plexus chakras out, and I'mable to do this process called the breadth
of the sension where you sound healingand we're able to actually realign people's chakras.
And this like creates a massive shipbecause like you're holding onto all this

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energy. No amount of Western medicineis going to fix this, like you're
literally wasting your money going to thelike not that it's like that, Like
I've seen chiropractors that really helped mein the short term to get my back
a line. But if your energyis off, it's gonning to go right
back to the disalignment. So let'ssee that for the audio only listeners,

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it's essentially showing a chart of people'sbefore and after energy field or chakras.
And you know, some of thechakras are unbalanced to one side or the
other. And the side they're unbalancedtoo, correlates to core emotions that they
may be have in trouble with amight correct on that. Yes, let

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me explain a little more further.So like this picture right here for the
audio listeners, like the right sideof the body is Yang energy, the
left side is yin energy. Sopart of like when I'm assessing people,
I can see like where, ohyou have a Yang in balance, Oh
you have a gin and balance.Most of society is in balance with the
Yang energy because we're so hyper masculine, doing doing, doing, busy,
busy, busy, busy. Imust stay busy so I can't face my

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inner pain. Anything to not facemy inner pain. So we stayed busy,
and our chakras moved to the rightor like over here with the assemblage
point, it's off to the righthere and this would be the left side
of being more yin energy. Theyang side is masculin, the yin side
is feminine. Let me say thatagain. The Yang side is masculine,
the yin side is feminine. Now, the key point here is we want
to harmonize the yin and yang energy. Okay, because when they are harmonized,

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our thoughts are masculine, our emotionsare feminine. And when we harmonize
too, it's basically like we're connectingthoughts being electrical and emotions be being magnetic.
So we're able to couple those togetherto work through the electromagnetic energy field
to begin manifesting our James. Butif we haven't balanced is in our auric
field. If we haven balances inour chakras, our ability to magnetically attract

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and create the reality we deserve isgoing to be very limited. So this
is a key powerful point that Ibegan to realize. A big part of
this really comes down to the nervoussystem. Is why teaching breathwork, meditation,
dais alchemy helps people to create harmonywithin these energy centers and calm ourselves
down. Now, there's one finalthing that I do in these sessions.
So at first I do these sandwichpoint. Then I assess people's chakras,

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and I can do this all remotely. So if you're listening to this and
you want to try a session,hit me up. I can do this
from across the country, across theglobe. Maybe if you're on a different
planet, I can help you outtoo, for the aliens that are listening.
So and so I do these sandwichpoint, I assess people's chakras,
align their chakras, and I finishwith this thing called multidimensional clearing. I'm
able to assess people whether they're holdinglike if somebody is holding onto a curse,

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if they have some kind of energeticfrequency, if they have an entity
that is feeding on their energy.I'm able to utilize the quantum field and
do a multidimend clearing session. Andthat essentially is a ceremony that I put
people through to help them to releaseenergy stagnant energy or we call it residudu
or some crap they're carrying within themselves. And so it's a three step process.
And then from there, the keything is just making sure that people

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are taking care of like basic stufflike getting quality food, water and all
that stuff, because a lot oftimes it's simple things that are throwing people
off and keeping them stuck. Butthat's essentially how we do a quantum healing
session. A sandwich point chakras andmulti dimensional clearing. And people that I'm
working with, I generally see themlike once or twice a month, and
then I check in with them andI blend that with shadow work to see
what's going on psychologically as well.So that's a quick little breakdown of a

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quantum healing session. Dude, thatwas amazing. I'm definitely already thinking about
getting the session with this. Sothis is amazing. Bit. I'm loving,
loving the way you just broke thatdown, and man, makes so
much sense. And how you know, we just like get gunked up over
time and like we get callous toyou know, stay in in alignment and

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you know, coming back to awareness, I was going to ask you,
so, is this is this anaspect of or tied end with like meridian
points and the acupuncture teachings and allthat, or yeah, okay, I'm
not an expert with acupuncture. Actually, my mentor was is a certified acupunctures
and I've worked at that acupunctures.If I was younger, I probably would

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go out and learn acupuncture. I'mjust forty years old and I'm just so
like into the coaching and in quantumhealing practice. I'm not going to do
that, but it is totally relatedbecause the chakras are related to our internal
organs. Each chakras related to specificemotions and hormones in the body, and
it's all corrected with the meridian lines, the knotty channels, and specifically the
nervous system. And we talk aboutthe meridian lines, mirror means water,

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you know, like we're getting intolike natural law tumor or like the laws
of the universe, but like maritimelaw, your body is made up of
water. So it's understanding where thecheap blockages are within the body. And
this helps create a tremendous harmony forpeople in terms of their healing process.
Now, the key thing to understandhere is that it's really about create.
Like most people, like when wetalk about yin and yang, like the

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right side is yang, the leftside is yin. It's also up and
down. Our head is more yangenergy, masculine. The body is more
yin, more feminine energy. AndI learned this as I mentioned, I've
been hitting trained by a Dallas shaman, is that they told me that most
people they're they're cheat is in theirhead so much. We're thinking about thoughts
that we were thinking. Did Ithink about that thought that I was thinking
that I thought about that I wasthinking? Did I think about it enough?

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And then you're like, you're createYou're creating your clusterfucking your head.
Yeah, we all do it.We all do it right, I do
it. I'm like, oh,I'm doing it again, Darren, come
down, use some of your own. So the key thing here is a
big part of your healing journey.And this is one of the first things
I teach people with breathwork is gettinginto the place. This is why meditation

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is so crucial. Like your logicalmind, like why would I waste my
time meditating? I can be makingmoney, You're gonna take care of my
kids. Were doing those things youneed to the nervous system down. And
the key point here is to allowallow the chi to drop out of your
head and allowed to drop into yourbody. And as you allow that process
to occur, then the body canheal itself. I mean like I even

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like when I talk, I'm thevery fast talker. But even if like
slow it down, allow that sheto drop, Like I'll go sit by
the beach and meditate and just likeget out, because like oftentimes we're creating
our own demons inside our own head. So when we learn to really just
get calm, you realize that youare creating all those demons. When I
say demons, it's like a lotof our repress suppressed in de night.
Emotional energies are affecting us on sucha deep level, and most people are

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not conscious of how it's keeping themfrom manifesting the life of their dreams.
You have to allow, like ourbodies is really our connection to the quantum
field. So when you allow thatchet to drop, your body has messages
for you that you're not listening toyou because you're in your head so much.
So there the core principle here isallowing that space so that you can
heal yourself by key point, allowingthe cheat energy to drop into those lower

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centers of the body. Does thatmake sense? Attal sense? Man?
Yeah, you took the words rightout of my mouth about slowing down.
I feel like slowing down in sucha crucial part to all of this.
You know, to even come doan awareness of you know, the core
wounds or how am I going togo about this? Or how am I
going to get started? Like ifyou just slow down, I feel like

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that's that's really the first step,is not you know yeah, yes indeed,
And like the key point here somethingalso wanted to mention, I'm gonna
show you another slide here is likewhen you allow that chet to drop.
Have you ever heard of what's calledthe three dante ins? I have heard
that term, but refresh my memory, please cool, And like this,

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I'm actually working on an intro videothat it breaks this down because this is
like fundamental principles of voting to healyourself, Like you must understand this,
and so this is like just agolden negative wisdom that I want to share
with people understanding the Tao. Becausethere I said, I've been getting trained
by a Daoist shaman and I actuallyknew some of this before I hired her,
but she took me to a wholeanother level of understanding. So like

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the Dao is essentially like when you'reliving in harmony with the doot, it
relates a lot to natural law becauseyou've created harmony between like the law of
polarity, you'd recognize your darkness,you recognize your light. You understand the
rhythm and the flow. The lawof mentalism as above so below as a
thing and so without the law ofcorrespondence. And basically the Tao is living
in harmony with natural law. That'swhat blew my mind when I started getting

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deep into shadow work. All ofdeep shadow work, young and psychology is
based on ancient Daoist principles and themore I study that and like, this
relates perfectly to natural law. Solike a lot of people I'm sure you've
interviewed who talk about natural it's sucha big topic these days because we're living
with man law, which is killingus, like your body's a commodity.
But we are divine creatures connected tothe earth, and we've forgotten that.

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Now, let's break down these threenineteens. This is such powerful wisdom.
If you listen, if you rememberanything that I share today, remember this.
So Dontian is essentially they call itthe three treasures of life. It's
an elixir field, a sea ofcheat, or an energetic center within the
body. And there's three core danteans. We have the jam which is down
here just below the belly button.It's also known as horror in Japanese,

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the horror. And so we havethe jing, and I'll talk more about
that in a moment. Then wehave the cheat, which is the energy
that emanates all life forces in thebody. And then we have the sheen,
which is the spirit that dwells inthe body. Because where like we
talk about the shen, it's likewhen you look in someone's eyes, you
can see if the spirit is present. Like if somebody is on a lot
of drugs, the ship, thespirit is not there. You ever seen
somebod who's like high on meth orlike, oh yeah you drunk, Yeah,

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the spirit is not present. Thisis where like can you tell if
somebody's like possessed, you know whatI'm saying, Like when I say possessed,
like you do enough meth, youyour soul will not be present.
Your spirit will not be present.Oh yeah, eyes are the windows of
the soul, exactly exactly. Sothe key thing here when we talk about
the three danteans is like the firststep comes down to your breath, because

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you bring in cheat most notably throughyour breath, also through the food that
you eat and getting proper rest.But the foundation is your breath. So
one of the first things I teachis breathwork. The breath is also associated
with the metal element in the lungs, in the air and being able to
alkimize your internal organs and actually harmonizeyourself with your external world. So the
whole goal here is is this.I could do like a whole forty five

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minute prerecentation just on this, sowhen you're breathing, it is. It
is absolute goal. So the wholegoal here we start with the jing,
okay, and I have another slidethat will break this down more. We
want to breathe into this lower dahntientand strengthen the pelvic floor. Let's be
straight. A lot of people sexlife sucks because your pelvic floor is weak.
If to strengthen the pelvic floor.And another way of looking at this,

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your jing is a feminine element.The shin is the masculine. Most
people, especially in the spiritual community, they're attempting to ascend. I want
to ascend. I want to ascend. I'm so sorry, but you will
not ascend until you actually descend becausethe descent isn't the dark feminine, Okay,
And that's where the jing is.Essentially the jing is like a bucket,

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and if the pelvic floor is weak, the bucket is leaking. You're
leaking water, water, energy,water chi, and it's also straciated with
your kidneys. Your kidneys are associatedwith water, right because they filter fluids
in your body. So the wholegoal here, long story short is to
strengthen your pelvic floor. You canlike do like even men doing kegel exercises.
Strengthen that pelvic floor, okay,get it very strong. Over time,

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as you strengthen that pelvic floors,could take up to a year.
Right, strengthen that pelvic floor,the bucket becomes stronger. As the bucket
becomes stronger, you're able to gatherthe chi down here in the jing.
Okay. As you gather that chi, this that you start to bring the
fire element, which is the shenhand it is also known as fire.
You're able to use your breath andbring that the yang or masculine fire energy

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down to the water. This heatsthe water of the of the of the
jing. Okay, this essence okay, as your core being, and then
that creates essentially this symbol right hereat your belly, Okay, you're creating
this symbol of the yin and yang. As you create this, this is
in Daoist alchemy. This is thealchemical marriage because you're harmonizing masculine and feminine

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energy within yourself. Okay. Asthat occurs, that water starts to heat
up. Then that energy begins tomove up the spine, and then over
time, as you do this,you can become what's called a Daoist immortal.
Your third eye begins to fully open, but you have to go down
and descend first. This also relatesto shadow work because you have to face
the darker parts of your psyche's otherwiseyou're going to have disharmony. It also

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has a lot to do with yourdiet. We're talking about the belly here
and your intestines, your gut health. So as you clear your gut health,
as you work with your breath,as you begin to do your shadow
work, that jing becomes stronger andit begins to ascend and awaken your shin.
And the shin is the fire,the shin is your soul. And
as you do this, as Imentioned, you become like a Daoist immortal.
You can heal yourself. If youwon't get sick, and if you

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do get sick, you heal faster. If you were injured in battle and
so you got shot with an arrowback in an ancient Daoist like China times,
you heal in a fraction of thetime because you had created harmony with
these three Dahntians. Now let meexplain it one more time before we go
on. So these three dantan,jing, Chi, and shin. There's
also an analogy of a candle.Okay. So the jing is essentially the

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candle itself. It's the wax andit's the wick, okay, and everybody
only has so much jing. Thisis why doing too many drugs, too
much alcohol, you're going to burnthat candle up pretty fast, okay.
The Chi is the flame, okay, all right, So you want to
have a nice, steady flame.You don't want the flame to get too
dim because you're not breathing properly,you're not eating properly, you're not sleeping
properly. The candle will like burnsideways. That's when you're really going to

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get sick and be very unhealthy.And this the part relates to shadow work.
The shin is the light emanating fromthe candle and it illuminates the darkness.
Now, if your flame is veryweak, your chie is weak,
the light gets very dim and that'swhen your shadow could be running your life.
You see. It relate's a lotto shadow work. And this is
the part where people get sick mentally, physically, and emotionally because the three

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daunteans are not imbalanced. So,as I mentioned, the whole key here
is to cultivate that jing through yourbreath and through the achieve the breath,
the food that you eat, andproper rest. And as you do those
things and cultivate that that lower dantein, then you start to awaken your
shin or your third eye. Thisis this is like this is a crash
course in enlightenment pretty much right here. You have to do the descending work
to it to achieve the ascension,right, ascension of the chessman. Oh

(31:22):
that sounded perfect right there. Ohyeah, it makes me think of that
Carl Young quote about if something aboutif your roots don't reach down to hell,
you uh, the branches can't reachto heaven or something like that.
It's true, and that's the partwhere people don't understand that. Like,
like I used to think people werestupid, but I was there, what

(31:44):
is will people? Why are theyliving this way? Then I started saying,
I like, people aren't stupid,they're unconscious. Like people are going
out and they're seeking abusive relationships becausewhen they were a kid, their mom
and your daddy beat them, andunconsciously they associate love with being beat up,
so they are completely conscious, Likewhy did I attract another abusive boyfriend?
Because if you unconsciously associate love withbeing beat up, that's like the

(32:06):
brudos. That's like, wait,I'm the one creating it. Yes you
are. It's like like the partpart about doing shadow or because I'm brutally
honest with people, right, andlike have to be just to be there's
a there's a gentle aspect too,but you have to be straight with people,
like and when you really want toheal, you gotta be honest with
the fact that you're co creating yourreality. That's where you're facing your ego
and realizing that you're creating this likethe way the world is. We're all

(32:28):
in the mirror, yes, exactly, exactly. Most people they don't know
how to do that. And that'swhere I started to have a lot more
compassionate for people. And that's whyI got into building all this stuff,
because if we get more people tolearn how to do this, we won't
need it as many doctors who arenot trauma informed, we won't need as
much therapy, won't need prescription drugsbecause we can understand the psychology. We
can harmonize those daunteans like I justmentioned, and we can use quantum healing

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to heal ourselves and heal from adistance. So this is stuff like I'm
so passionate about it because I knowthat people can heal themselves and we just
have to get this wisdom out tomore pop people. You know, it's
it's it's crazy how you broke thatdown, man, And like so many
similarities between other cultures, and youknow, I think of the Holy Trinity.
I think of the Kundalini awakening withinthe Eastern Way, and also I

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was just thinking of it's something regardingthe ONC and a ton trick practice of
circulating the energy back up, backdown, back up, and uh yeah,
it all ties together for me,man. But you the way you've
been trained from your shaman and justthe way you're breaking it down, I

(33:39):
think is so powerful man and sodigestible and ways for beginners to comprehend and
just practical to use and apply.Well, that's the whole vision, because
this stuff, like the stuffs deep, it's not easy. I'll be straight
with you me. It's taking methousands of hours of studying and having great

(34:00):
mentors and like my gift. Imean, had an astrologer told me,
like, you're born to be ateacher. I'm like, well, that's
what I've been doing. But likeI'm very if I understand something, I'm
damn good at getting into your head. And then ever, after twenty thousand
hours of coaching, I'm damn goodat keeping people accountable. It's doing this
work, but it's not it's noteasy. You're like the shadow or if
you're facing the ugliest parts of yourself. But I'm sorry, you can not

(34:22):
know your beauty until you face theugly parts, right ego, let's go
No, but I was abused asa child. I can't look there.
But if you look there, that'swhen you find your destiny. Because oftentimes
our greatest pain is to show uswho we truly are. Or like this
isn't even my opinion, there's thisone I actually do have presentations on Chinese
face reading, which is super fascinating. We can talk about that a little

(34:44):
bit to reading, and so Iuse that in my coaching. I can
look at your face and I cantell where you're holding onto emotions. It
doesn't work with younger people, olderpeople, it definitely helps. But essentially
in this book, I thought itwas so powerful that it said, sometimes
your soul will put you through atraumatic experience to wake you up to who
you were meant to be in ouregos. No, but that was your

(35:07):
trauma. It's like, but yoursoul made you experience that rate, that
abuse at pain. Like I hadan ext girlfriend, she was she was
raped, and then she became atrauma coach and she helped thousands of women
heal themselves from their sexual abuse.So sometimes, and it sounds messed up
what I just said, but thatsometimes, So I'm not saying every time,

(35:28):
but sometimes our soul puts this throughsome trauma to wake us up to
our destiny. It's called your mingin Chinese Chinese medicine. What is your
destiny? So some of you listeningto this, maybe I'm triggering you a
little bit. Hopefully I'm triggering ina good way to like look at yourself
in a new paradigm or a newreality, the new polarity, Like,
oh that trauma it actually was,like wasn't bad. It was an opportunity

(35:51):
for me to examine who I trulyam at my core level, so I
can step into my power. Andthat's why I love coaching people through this
process because it's not always easy todo. I had to get some sup
myself, and a lot of thisis just giving people the tools and holding
them accountable to understanding that your darknessreveals the light. That's the essence.
You look up what the word gurumeans. It means dispelling darkness with light,
and that's essentially all that I'm doing. I'm not don't I don't want

(36:13):
followers. I want to build atribe of healers and leaders where we all
become our own guru. We gotto stop looking to priests and politicians and
authority figures the root of the wordauthorities. Author You can become your own
author. You can write your ownstory, you can create your own scripts,
and I really want my vision isto empower as many people as possible
to understand how powerful you are andtake your power back from these delusional psychopaths

(36:37):
who are feeding on our souls.And you need to embody your soul.
That's the whole essence of Dallas teaching. People who embody their soul heal themselves.
People who do not embody them soulbecause they're on so many prescription drugs
and eating fast food and smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol and all kinds of stuff,
you're going to be very sick.And you created that yourself because your
soul is not presence. And that'sthe core of all these teaching is you

(36:58):
know, like shadow work is basicallysoulber right. Well, yeah, you
know, it's alchemy, like yousaid, and it's like you gotta make
the most of those those dark moments. Yeah, maybe not while you're in
it, but like looking back onit and as it comes back to the
surface, like you start to seeit from a new perspective, and sometimes

(37:20):
maybe time doesn't heal all wounds,but having some time in between all that
too, like you know, justgive it space and allow it to come
back to the surface and you seeit from a whole new perspective and you're
like, oh, well, ifthat wouldn't happen, I wouldn't be here,

(37:42):
I wouldn't be in this place,or I wouldn't have met that person.
Like, if you change anything aboutyour past, man, it changes
everything about your president and your future. And you know, I do think
there's so much deeper perspectives and realizationsand just ways of seeing things, you

(38:04):
know, the further along the pathwe get looking back on the life we've
lived and how it's led us tothis point. Like every single person we've
met, every single experience, playedits role to getting us here right now,
you know. And you got totake the good with the bad,
and that is part of it,man, is looking at the good,
the bad, and the ugly withinyourself but also within your relationships and how

(38:29):
they bring out stuff in you andyou want to point the finger at them,
and that's your ego coming back intrying to take control and to overcome
that. Yeah, that is thehero's journey, man, and you know
it's it's it's ironic too. Ihave you on right now because I know
you you have the background growing upand your dad was, you know,

(38:50):
working on Star Wars and all that. A buddy of mine's a really big
Star Wars fan. And he wastalking about how deep the storyline was at
you know, all the wisdom ingrainedin that story, and he was making
the case that it's the greatest storyever told as far as cinema goes.
And I think a lot of thesephilosophies are deeply written in there. And

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would you say that was the realizationfor you or do you realize that influence
at a young age within that series? Yeah, man, Well, my
dad was actually filming, uh itwas it was originally Revenge of the Jedi
just before I was born. Actuallybought the house that I'm in right now
with money they made from Revenge ofthe Jedi. And then my dad eventually

(39:36):
did the movie Howard the Duck andBattle of Endor that you walk first for
our second Ewoks movie that was onTV. And uh, you know,
like the whole thing with that manis just like the realization that like we
all are essentially Jedis, we allhave like the force is essentially the Tao.
That's why I love Daoism because it'slike we are in a quantum field,

(39:57):
but there is force if you're Itreminds me of a great book called
Power Versus Force by David Hawkins andwhen you're using power or see me if
you're the whole key here is tounderstand like how you work within the quantum
field and how your subconscious mind works. And the whole Keith point is like
like you said, the Hero's journey, Like I'm actually studying marketing right now
because I'm cool. I created thisvideo. Of course, I created a

(40:20):
book. I created an online school, so I'm figuring out how to market
it now. One of the thingsthat it read I read in this great
book called The Story Wars, itsaid that the whole goal to support peoples.
It's called empowerment marketing. So essentially, like the way you want to
look, there's maybe some of youguys listening to this or coaches or healers,
and like you've got to do salestoo, Like when I get a
sale, that's an opportunity for somebodyto heal themselves. So like learning sales

(40:42):
and marketing is important when we talkabout empowerment marketing. And this relates to
your mentioning of Star Wars. Essentially, everyone listening to this is Luke Skywalker,
and I see myself in my business. I'm Yoda, right, and
my product the Alchemy Healing Academy isLightsaber, and I'm going to teach you
how to use this lightsaber, whichis the Alchemy Healing Academy, so you
can conquer your demons. I'm goingto share my book Shadow Awakening with you

(41:06):
so that you can conquer those woundsfrom your past, those mommy and Daddy
wounds from your past. I'm gonnashare about a video of course with you.
And this is this lightsaber allows youto conquer Darth Vader, and that
helps you along this hero's journey tothe self actualization, self realization. And
that's the core thing here is everyoneis their own hero. It's just empowering
people enough to have that realization ofhow powerful they are. And that's the

(41:29):
core essence of everything that I'm doingis building a system. And what does
the word system mean. The wordsystem is save your self time, energy
and money. System. Save yourself time, energy, and money.
You're more than welcome to go outand spend the next five years reading books.
I'll get your results in three monthsbecause I've already read all those books
and I've already created the systems.And we need more coaches and healers who

(41:52):
understand how to empower people on theirown hero's journey. Because we talked specifically
about masculine in this world, mostmen are playing small in my We need
more men to step up into theirmasculinity and be co creating a new reality
together. We need more tribe likementality, need more safe spaces for men
to talk about their emotional pain aswell so they can become the hero.

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It's hard to become a hero whenyou're carrying all this emotional pain from your
past and there's not enough safe spacesfor men to talk about their stuff.
Absolutely women too. I coach mostlywomen. I would love to more for
them. Yeah, we need likemen are dying inside. What's the leading
killing in America heart disease because menaren't talking about their pain and they feel
like they're a bitch if they talkabout it, and you're going to kill

(42:32):
yourself if you don't. And Iwant to gently remind men out there that
if you want to know your truepower, you know specifically talking about yin
and yang energy. The yang energyis the masculine that's the warrior. The
femine energy that's the healer, anda lot of men are afraid of their
feminine side, and there's nothing todo with being gay or anything. You're
you finding your inner nurture, yourinner child, and being able to honor

(42:55):
your healing journey. And like yousaid earlier, like time heals all the
time heals wounds. I mean,like the word time backwards is emit.
It's really just energy and acknowledging theenergy that we're holding within us that's blocking
us from our potential. And that'sthe part where like joining our community like
my Alchemy Hemi Academy, or workingwith me as a client, I'm able

(43:16):
to identify pinpoint the precise areas withinyour psyche that you're struggling with. Remember
psyche means soul. Pinpoint those areaswhere you're struggling with your soul. And
as we embody that soul, thenthings get a lot easier. And as
I mentioned, we need to createmore spaces for men to talk about this
stuff because there's probably men listening tothis right now who are really struggling and
they don't feel safe talking with othermen, and we need to have those

(43:37):
spaces. And that's part of thereason why I'm creating this stuff, because
you know, there's a lot ofpowerful men out there, but they're afraid
of their own power because they don'tknow how powerful they are when they've integrated
their shadow and heal their emotional pain. I couldn't agree more. Brother.
Yeah, it's like I feel likeit is becoming more normalized, and I
do see more and more men's circlescoming about, and you know, a

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lot of this stuff is really comingto the surface now, and I feel
like we got a long ways togo for sure, like we're not even
close to where we need to be, but I feel like we're on the
path. And it's a good feelingto know, like all the healing that
is happening around the world and moreawareness is being brought to it. And

(44:22):
I feel like for decades and decades, like it wasn't even it wasn't even
like a topic of conversation, Likeit was like automatically shut down, like
you're a pussy, Like why youbeing why you even bringing this up?
Like it was so taboo. Likenow it's like being normalized, like and

(44:45):
you know, men are coming outof their shelves and you know, seeking
answers to the questions they're starting tofinally ask. These days, it seems
like like because of a lot ofgreat men that are stepping up and being
trailblazers in this arena to bring othermen out of their unconscious sleep that we

(45:09):
tend to stay stuck and if we'renot brought any awareness surrounding it. Yeah,
no, I love Like that's theweird thing about COVID, you know,
like I always believe that the darknessreveals the light. And you know,
before COVID, it was more itwas more taboo to talk Oh,
trauma, No, I want totalk about trauma. But now because of
COVID, it's like, yeah,we all experienced trauma. Like everybody or

(45:31):
somebody you know really suffered during COVID. So the beauty of COVID is now
it's safer to talk about mental andemotional health problems. So I'm actually really
grateful for COVID because it's making iteasier for me as a coach because a
lot of people, like I bringup this stuff. Everybody's like, oh,
yeah, I love what you're doing, but they don't want to talk
about their stuff. You know,I'm saying, like, I want to
talk about my mental health problems.But it's made it more safe because people

(45:54):
realize they need these tools. Youknow, it's like unfortunately, it's like
I mean fortunate, Unfortunately. It'sreally good for business because you know,
like I'm not doing this just becauseI want to make money. I'm doing
this because I want to see theworld heal and I feel like we're worthy
of that healing. And that's thebeauty of COVID. Now it's safer to
talk about mental and emotional health problems, and we just got to keep cultivating
that because we need to make itmorem I want people to be able to

(46:15):
talk about mental health in the sameway that men talk about baseball, because
it's more important than baseball, youknow, like your sports team one And
don't know, I love baseball,you know what I'm saying, But like
it's base consciousness. We gotta toelevate respect of life. Yeah, I
love I love going to like myI got when I was a kid,
I spent so much time watching sports. I study more, but occasionally it's

(46:36):
nice to watch some sports. Butmen, if imagine if men spent like
a fraction of the time they spentwatching sports doing it and work within the
next we're struggling with, like what'sgetting us down lately? Like how are
we being triggered in our relationships andyou know, just having the balls to
like come out and say it,like what what are we have in trouble

(47:00):
with lately? Like just minorally openingup and like the least of just saying,
like, man, I've been reallystruggling lately. I need some help.
I need I need to you know, really talk about this. Uh,
would you be willing to listen withoutautomatically like giving me advice or like

(47:22):
being judgmental towards me, or likeseeing me differently as a result, like
honestly, just hold space for meand like be open to listen. And
I think creating these circles where mencan open up in these ways, I
think it empowers other men to dothe same because we start to see like
how connected we truly are, andlike how much your problems are my problems

(47:45):
and my problems are your problems.Like we all have these similar problems in
different ways. And I think growingup we think like every kid has it
different, but really, like weall have our own unique set of challenges
that you know, we have torise to the occasion and really, you
know, lean into that and likenot let us not let the challenges overcome

(48:09):
us and get us down and youeither get better or you get better.
You know. That's been a lifelesson for me. It's like, you
know, I've had many setbacks thislast year, Like it's it's probably been
the toughest year of my life.But like every time I've got knocked down,
man, it's like you got toget back up. You can't stay

(48:29):
there, you know. And therethere's been weeks where I've felt like sorry
for myself or you know, it'sjust not working out right now or this
or that, but like sooner orlater you snap out. You got to
And you know, I think partof that is like when you surround yourself
with like what are you plugging into? Negative or positively? Like what are

(48:52):
you taking in? What are yourdaily practices? What's your diet? Like,
uh, you know, it comeson all levels. It's like your
mental diet is just important. Importantis what you're eating, you know,
like what just like what what areyou tuned into on a daily basis?
I think is so important man,And we underestimate that so much, even

(49:15):
like watching a freaking horror movie,Like it's like sometimes that's not like the
best thing for us like that weneed at that time. And I think
that's our ego piping up and sayinglike, well, this is a good
distraction right now from doing something moreproductive or and like what does productive really
mean? Does that mean you haveto be doing something or can you slow

(49:37):
down and do something productive, liketo really find a mindful practice, like
when you need it most, whenyou're already overstressed or have high anxiety about
whatever stressors going on in your life. Like I've been just as guilty as
that as many of us, manabout like overworking myself and like not finding

(49:58):
the time to keep my practices upand you know, falling back and not
keeping steady with those and then seeingthe results of like when I get out
of alignment and like fall back onmy practices, like I don't feel good,
and I noticed like I'm more snappywith people, like I just have
a shorter fuse, and like justall these things that come to the surface.

(50:22):
Man. And like I said earlier, I think slowing down is such
a major aspect to that because Iam always in fight or flight, man,
like rushing around trying to get asmuch done in a day. It's
like sitting there telling myself, likethere's not enough hours in the day to
get all I want to get done. But ultimately, like slowing down like

(50:43):
speeds us up in a lot ofways of just like gating awareness. It's
a paradox. Yeah, man,that was a beautiful wison you to share
it right there because it's so true, and like, I just want to
touch on a few things that yousaid, Like I think part of my
healing journey as a man was beingreally honest with how emotionally unintelligent I was.

(51:04):
Yeah, I'm really like a lotof a lot of men need to
like yep, I am really emotionallyintelligent and like just being brewed. I
don't know how to feel an emotion. Society doesn't teach us how to feel
emotions, how to express emotions.We don't have the vocabulary, the vernacular
to express ourselves. And that wasa big part of my feeling journey,
Like damn, I'm weak as fuckwhen it comes to understanding my emotions.

(51:29):
That's at first step. Be real, you don't you don't know jack about
emotions, Like, but we aren'ttaught this stuff. It's like because the
people that rule the world, theydon't want us to be emotionally intelligent.
They want us to be very linear, very masculine, very young, because
just like you're talking about, wehave to be able to heal ourselves,
and that abder to heal ourselves comesdown to sometimes the most productive thing you

(51:51):
can do is do nothing right,just sits because they're in a nervous system
heals. It's like we get weget very it's we're seduced by the masculine
energy, the yang energy. Evenwomen. Even women, they're like they
want to show off their bodies.Look at my body. And then don't
get me wrong, I expect womenshowing off their bodies, but you're doing
it all the time. That's actuallymasculine energy because like it's like it's like

(52:15):
a male peacock, look at mytail feathers. Look at my tail feathers.
Yeah, look at me. Andthen deep down inside they are so
deeply wounded and they're getting all thatattention. It doesn't feel the empty pitt
and their soul because they haven't facedtheir generational pain. Right, right,
peacock, look at me, Andmen do it too, like we're looking
right and like a big part ofthat for me is like realizing it's like

(52:37):
I gotta face my inner stuff.I gotta recognize my emotional weakness. And
a big part is too, islike, like you said, like a
daily practice. I always tell people, especially when I first started working with
them, your rituals create your riches. And I haven't been perfect all the
time too, but I've gone throughperiods of my life for like six months
I'm meditating every single day, LikeI've gone in and out of that.
I've slept on my practice sometimes too, and that's okay. The key thing

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is and I was like, oh, I'm off balance and having the awareness
around that too. But that's thepore thing here, Like you have to
that this is the essence of liketaking the time to slow down to like
meditate. I tell people in mygroup coaching program, you should meditate twenty
four minutes a day, one minutefor every hour of the day. It's
a very simple goal. Twenty fourminutes day, even if it's twelve minutes
in the morning, in twelve minutesbefore bed, that's actually the best time

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to do it. But it's likeyou're taking time for nothingness. And I
believe Alan Watts talked about this alot. One of my favorite philosophers.
You know there is extreme power innothing. Yea our egoic linear mask of
mine, like doing nothing. It'slike it's it's like you you're not truly

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living until you've taken the time tolike really honor that divine feminine within you.
Whether you're a male or female,honor that divine feminine. She has
a message for you. Your bodyis the divine feminine. It's the healer.
And if you ignore that bitch,she's gonna make your life a bitch.
You got listen to your body.Why is my body healing because you
never listen to your body. That'slike people know so many people are disconnected

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from their bodies. Like my dadfilmed Desperate Housewives around supermodels. Some of
these women super gorgeous, but I'mlike, damn, you're hell of disconnected
from your bodies, even supermodels.They like people think that people on TV
are like all these such happy people. I group around these people. Not
all of them are happy. Someof them are, for sure, but
a lot of people they're rich andfamous, and they're still unhappy. When
I was a little boy, Iwas like on some of these film sets

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and like, damn, you're hellof fake in your happiness, but like,
like you look cool, but ifwe get all that stuff, you
know what I'm saying, So that'sstuff, that's her work, you know.
Like I feel like we have thisillusion growing up, maybe some more
than others, of like viewing acertain class of people or prototype of what
a humans supposed to look like,or what success is supposed to look like,

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and like they got the perfect life, like they got it all figured
out, but like, little dowe know, like so many of those
people, like who we thought hadit all together don't, And like they're
struggling inside just as much as weare. And like to like come to
grips with that as you get oldertoo, of like you know, just
how misinformed we were in so manyways growing up, like just coming to

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new realizations. But you talked about, you know how his men we struggle
with emotional intelligence and for men outthere just coming to grips with knowledge of
this and saying, yeah, Idon't know shit about emotions. I haven't
felt a single emotion, and Idon't know how long I've been numbing myself
out through work or porn or drinkingor whatever drug or your choice, you

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know, all the different ways wecan distract ourselves from just you know,
sitting for a moment and like lettinga tear be shed or letting an emotion
come to the surface that we've beenpushing it away for so long, just
to feel and process. Where doyou begin, I guess a practice or
like maybe a mantra or just gettingwords to cope to begin to start this

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journey for men who are just beginningthis well, Like my quick answer,
which is a quick plug, ismy book on shadow Awakening. It's a
workbook that will take you through thewhole process. It's only fifteen dollars on
Amazon, So a quick plug frommy book. But if you don't want
to buy my book, it's allgood. I'm not trying to be too
salesy, but I just want togive people tools. Is really take time

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to sit with yourself, Like gospend some time in nature. One of
the first time that teach people islike get harmony with your breath, get
a meditation practice, going ground yourself, ground yourself, ground yourself. Just
like you talked about you have tobe able to descend, okay, grounding
yourself okay, because people want toascend, but you will not ascend until
you ground yourself. Like you lookat a tree, the tree doesn't grow

(56:52):
until the roots grow, so youhave to build strong roots. So I
keep part there is like recognizing wherein your body your whole going onto the
emotional pain and be able to likesit with it and be able to cultivate
a conversation with your body. Andthat is a key point because then as
you do that, your inner voicewill give you instructions in terms like as
a coach and people tall like I'ma certified quantum healer, so but I

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don't heal people. I'm just amirror to the parts of yourself that you're
not listening to or you can't see. So the whole key point are coming
back to your question is like gettingpeople are getting men specifically to take the
time to honor that yend, thatfeminine, that dark side, the magnetic
side, and that key point there, it's super magnetic because as you start
to work with those repressed emotions,you feel them, you express them,

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you release them. Now new thingscan show up at your life. Why
are you stuck because you're holding ontothis emotional pain? And I say that
with compassion because most people man specificallymen don't know how to feel that.
Let me share a personal story.So like when I got into like shadow
work at all this anger, like, I was ff and pissed at the
world, like, God, damnit, why is the world still messed
up? Right? And as Igot into the anger, I got into

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it, I found fear. Andas I got into fear, I found
my own childhood wounds of abandonment frommy father. I have a great dad,
but he was gone filming all thetime, so I had this abandonment
wound. And getting clarity around thatwas so powerful, dacing the abandonment,
navigating the fear, recognizing that angeris not a bad thing. If you
suppress it, it's horrible. Thisis what's leading to a lot of like
heart disease or high blood pressure.Anger is not bad. Anger is actually

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it's a masculine energy and which helpsyou to ascend. But you have to
acknowledge what is the deeper emotion belowthe surface of the anger. Is there
some shame? There is there someguilt? Is there some deeply repressed grief.
Because often there's a surface level emotion, we have to navigate what's going
on in those deeper, darker spacesof the psyche or soul, and that

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is where we set ourselves free becauseninety percent of the shadow is pure gold.
Ninety percent of the shadow is puregold. It's just that ten percent
of darkness that we must sit through. This is why getting a coach or
a healer, or like a therapistwho knows what they're doing to support you
is so powerful because stuff comes upalong the path and so like that's like
my whole vision with like my book, my video course in my school is

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creating a system so people can feelempowered and making it affordable for anybody to
navigate those spaces because a lot ofpeople can't afford therapists. A lot of
people they're terrified of being on prescriptiondrugs, and like I went through that
too, Like I don't want tobe on drugs the rest of my life.
I don't want to suppress my emotions. These therapists don't know Jack and
I come in. Some do.There are some great therapist out but the
good ones are too expensive for theaverage person, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm like, like, whatif we just taught people how to

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navigate their emotions? What if wetaught people how the energetic body works.
Oh, now we're going to takesome money back from those multibillion dollar industry
that's feeding on your soul, likebecause you're basically a commodity. This is
how we take our power back.So that's the core essence of everything that
I'm doing here is empowering people tobecome their own healer and learning how to
navigate the shadow realms so they canharmonize that en and yang energy within themselves

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and begin manifesting the life of theirdreams. And manifest is the exact word.
You are not manifesting because you haveall these inner blocks holding onto emotional
pain. Until we face that emotionalpain and we put down that baggage,
You're not you're you're not going tosee the results that you want. But
then as you release that energy,now the new things begin to magically show
up for you. And this isthe essence of like the ascension, you

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know, it's the awakening and togreatness because you have to navigate that chessboard
and realize that you are the kingand the queen of your own reality and
stop playing your life like a pawn. Ooh that sounded good. I need
to put that in my intro.Brother, that was good. Yeah,
dude, this is an epic conversation. I know we're just getting started.
We've been going about an hour.I won't keep it too much longer,

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but I guess, uh, youknow, it just comes down to slowing
down and getting still and getting outof fight or flight. And I feel
like that in and of itself canbecome addictive of just like staying stuck in
that fight or flight mindset. Anduntil we break that that pattern in our

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life, I don't think anything canchange, like even like changing something little,
like the littlest of things like well, I had two cups of coffee
today, so I'm gonna have onetoday, Or I had two cups yesterday,
so I'm gonna have one today.You know, just like minute changes,
those minute changes are building blocks tobigger changes, and those changes continue

(01:01:22):
to you know, you continue togain momentum and start to head in the
right direction. And you know,that's what I take from this too,
is like just start, start whereyou're at, and you know, take
the first step. The first stepis always the hardest, always, and
you know it's it's been humbling processfor me as of late. To you

(01:01:45):
know think I was really heading inthe right direction for a long period there.
And you know, podcast was goinggreat last year, cranking out episodes,
you know, uh, pedal tothe metal and staying super can assistant.
This year has been tough. I'vehad a lot of transitions in my
life. Old relationship ended, newrelationship began. Old job I had to

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leave, a new job began withthe new job was an older job that
I had to be humble enough toaccept back into my life and come to
the realization I gotta I gotta keepthe lights on and I gotta pay my
bills. So I know this isonly temporary, but this is what I'm
gonna do for right now. Justa lot of transitions in my life this

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year, man, and it's feltoverwhelming at times, but always knowing that
a minor setback is not is notthe end, like it is only going
to make a better comeback. Andthat's that's that's the way I've been trying
to come at it, you know, despite getting down on myself at times,
and you know, I think likejust wanting to throw my hands up

(01:02:57):
in the air and saying like Igive up, I'm done, Like it's
tested me to the core, man, And I feel like under you know,
it's like you hear that quote alot about under high pressure, diamonds
are formed. And I really,really really feel that mantra this year,
man, Like, I know it'sbeen challenging as hell this year, but

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I know great things are coming.And you know, this is a part
of the process to like showing mewhat I'm really valuing, showing myself what
my worth truly is, and tolike bring that out of me, and
like God will never put me throughanything I wasn't ready for. And despite

(01:03:39):
how hard it's been, like I'mgrateful for every part of it, man,
Like I'm grateful for all the hardlessons that have come up this year,
all the challenging moments, because youknow, I'm here right now and
like I'm getting back on the pathand like you know, like I said,
man, taking that first step asthe hardest. And you know,

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one you've been down for a littlewhile, Like as long as you get
back up and start to you know, get your motion back with you,
you start to see the purpose thatyou had to go through all that,
and it's it's a part of thejourney, and it's never about the Finnish
slide. The journey is the Finnishslide, you know. That's that's how
I come at it. So justto open up and get vulnerable a little

(01:04:23):
bit myself about you know, whata tough year it's been, but man,
keep treading on. Yeah, Man, I love that, especially the
part about gratitude. It's all aboutyour vibrational frequency, you know, and
no matter what happens, is findingthat space of gratitude, Like I would
remind myself, like, we literallylive with so much luxury today compared to
like people one hundred years ago,and we forget about that, Like people

(01:04:43):
have more anxiety and depression than everbefore, but we have more luxury than
there before. Just how to balancethe world is and so the key point,
like is being grateful and just recognizingthe world is going through a rebirth.
Like that's why I created the AlchemyHealing Academy. We're going through the
greatest alchem amical process in history.The old ways are dying, and the
people who are suffering the most,they're clinging to the old ways. They're

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clinging to the old self. Amassive part of the alchemical process is a
part of you dies and this iswhy you get help, because it's not
always easy to do. Hire acoach, hire a healer, join my
academy. I love teaching this stuff. It's assassinating to see people like go
through the process and recognize their power. But that's the part that people need
the most support with, like allowingthat part of you to die, because

(01:05:29):
breakdown proceeds breakthrough and it's a loteasier to navigate that chessboard when you have
the support that you need because we'reall in this together, you know,
And if you feel like you're alone, that could be a trauma response and
maybe it's time to reach out andget some support because I've been there too.
I did a lot of stuff alone. I'm getting a lot more support
now. It's really helping me out. So hopefully i'd inspire somebody who if
you want to go fast, goalone, if you want to go far,

(01:05:50):
build a tribe. And that's whatI'm attempting to do with all the
work I'm doing. Well, saidbrother, Well, thank you so much
for coming back on. Brother.I'd love to, you know, get
a session with you for sure,but also continue to stay in touch and
continue to build a larger audience forboth of us, man, and I

(01:06:14):
love the work you're doing and Ilove to see what you're building with the
alchemy school man, and I lookforward to brighter future, man, and
brighter thanks to come. I'm veryhopeful about what's to come. So thank
you for being here, man.Thank you for you know, doing the
legendary work that you are and beingyour best self and showing others how to

(01:06:36):
do the same. Thank you,man. It's a pleasure, you know.
It's like ram Das says, we'rejust walking each other home. We're
just reminding each other how powerful weare. So pleasure to be on your
on your podcast again. Hopefully weinspired a few people and let's just just
keep treading the path together. Youknow, maybe one or two, or
three or fifty people that get inspiredby this, who knows. But it's
just one person at a time.That's how you build a successful city or

(01:06:59):
business or a new reality, onebrick, one person, one breath at
a time. So much of love, brother, thank you all for listening
out there. I hope you gainedsomething of value from this conversation. I
found a moment of presence throughout it. I send you all peace and love,
and I hope you have a beautifulrest of the week. Thanks for listening.