#191 - Old World Order w/ Sean Hibbeler

Sean Hibbeler is a truthseeker, extraordinary documentary filmmaker  & host of Hibbeler Effect podcast.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Ascension of the Chessmen,diving into the esoteric, occult, spiritual,
and conspiratorial aspects of life, focusedon solutions to the problems we face
in our everyday lives. Let usascend above all differences. Let us be
the light in darkness, a breathof fresh air to those who can hardly

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breathe, and together awaken into greatness. This is Ascension of the Chessman,
with your host, Andre Mitti.Mitti, Welcome to the Ascension of the
Chessman podcast. I'm your host,Andre Mitti. Today's guest is a truth
seeker, extraordinary documentary filmmaker and hostof The Hibbler Effect podcast. Ladies and

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gentlemen, Hobbinson Fairies, give awarm welcome to Sean Hibbler. Happy to
have you, brother, hey Man, thank you for having me. Hi
to your wonderful audience. Man,it's been a long time in the making
here, but man, big fanof your work. I I had on
Marion Hyman last year. That wasan honor to go over your collaboration on

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the George Floyd documentary. But somany great documentaries you put together, man,
just covering so many different topics andsubjects that I think are important to
be talked about, and you know, especially for the beginners just getting into
this. So I guess my firstquestion for every guest man is always for
those who aren't familiar, can youexplain what it is that you do?

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And I guess what woke you upto realizing maybe there's more to this life
than you originally taught or thought.Yeah, yeah, I'm Sean Hibler from
Hibbert Productions. I'm a filmmaker,you know, a long time ago as
a music producer. Then I shiftedinto doing sports videos. And once I
started doing sports videos, my goalwas to get you know, I used
to watch ESPN all the time whenI used to sports, and I'd see

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their highlight reels and there, youknow, all their cutaways and I'm like
that sucks. I'm like I couldadd it better than that. So my
dream was to sorry, let memute this. My dream was to you
know, be a high ranked ESPNvideo sports highlight type of editor. And

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I started working with you know,independent sports companies getting paychecks and I'm like,
Okay, this is going to bemy mission, my career. And
then Eric Dbay in twenty fourteen,and at twenty fourteen really slapped me in
the face with some truth. Andonce I heard the truth, I researched
it hard. I didn't accept itat first, you know, and I

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went hard and it was like ahobby at first, and then it became
an obsession to find the truth.And then once I felt like I found
the truth, well, most importantly, once I found that I see all
these lies and deceptions that I canprove and show and you know, wake
people up with, I said,man, I can't. I can't keep
doing sports videos. I can't.It's like God was telling me, don't

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waste your talent with reds and circuses. Well, you know, you need
your talent to wake people up,and you need to do it now.
So I took a big risk.I quit my nine to five, you
know, and I went all in. When the lockdown happened, I just
I'm like, Hilnoproductions is starting.Even though my company's been around for a
while, we've been making videos onYouTube and stuff getting banned and all this

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stuff, and I'm like, Okay, I'm going to go all in and
you know, all the films thatpeople want. Because I used to get
emails all the time, how canI support you, And I'm like,
am I heady? I am nineto five. So that's why I used
to like drop one video a year, basically because I had no time to
make anything. So yeah, soI was like, people are like,

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hey, man, like, howcan we support you? And like,
when initially came up, I'm like, what the heck are they talking about?
I'm like, just share my shit. I'm like, what do you
mean support? Right? Like,how do we pay you? Donate?
I'm like, donate for what?I'm not a children's charity. Like,
I just didn't know the concept.And eventually I started seeing you know,
other people like getting donations or justwhatever, and I'm like how I'm like
that just doesn't feel normal to me. Man. So at the time,

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I didn't want to set up mywebsite where you can really donate, right.
I wanted to do it where hey, if you want to support me
or donate, you go to Hillyproductionsdot com. You find a film a
rabbit hole of your choice. Imade many topics, short videos, long
videos, whichever one you want,and you donate two bucks, you know,
maybe four bucks for a new releaseor something. But that's it.

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I just set it up that way, and I'm like, so when people
want to donate, I'm like,no, don't donate, don't donate,
Go find some films you want.At least you get something in return,
is the point, rather than justhitting twenty bucks and then you're like,
hope, you got it. It'slike now like you get something, you
get something that you want, andwe scratch each other's back. You wake
up to a topic you're interested in, I get two bucks, you know,

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And that's just the way the worldworks. And you know, up
to this point, my audience hasgrown to where, hey, all the
lights are on. I'm not gonnaso I'm not going to complain ever,
but the lights are on. I'mblessed for that. And all I can
do with my business and my brandis keep growing, keep getting more people
involved. Now that I'm teaming upwith Stu Peters and King Bao and others,

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and we have big, big plansfor the near future and big films
for the near future. And we'veall talked about how every film we move
move mountains with in the future,we're going to release for free to the
world. So now I can stopthis whole you know, my new film
comes out, you got to rentit or something like that, which I
don't like doing either. But again, this is how my lights. I

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can't edit without electricity, right,so I need to keep my lights on.
But I've been blessed at my audienceup to this point has got me
to this point. And now it'sbecause I've gotten to this point, I've
gotten noticed by other people that wantto collab and say, look, man,
let's all work together and then wecould get the finished product to the
world for free. I mean,that's a fucking win win. So I'm

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excited to for the journey of thenear future for sure. But as of
right now, you know, Imade three flatter documentaries that were controversial to
state the least, but woke millionsof people up as well. So you
know, yeah, dude, thosedogs blew me away. And uh,
you know, your production style reallyreminded me of O D D TV.

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I don't know if you're familiar.H Yeah, that's my friend. Many
times. I've been to his home. I've been in his home many times.
Man. Yeah, he was oneof my first guests early on.
He's a great dude. But yeah, dude, phenomenal work with what you're
doing and Yeah. I love howyou're keeping a grassroots and you staying humble
about it, and you know thehaters are gonna hate and call you a

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grifter no matter what you do.And it's like, man, I was
just trying to survive, Like Iget, I was just on the biggest
I was just on the biggest hatershow of all time. So I forgot
the guy's name. He's a youngerkid. He's got to show his He's
like a ball that type of characterwhere like they're all in character the whole
show, like you're on a podcast, but it's like a skit show or
something. Right. I went therea couple of nights ago, and they're

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just flatter thes have no brains,and why are you retarded? And like
the dumbest questions. I actually thoughthe wanted to talk about flat earth,
right, So then they start gettingin my head, you know, will
call me retard and I you know, all this stuff. So I'm just
look, man, I can handlemyself. I'm just laying the facts.
I'm letting my intelligence glow, youknow, and I'm just I'm keeping calm
and then they throw me off atthe end. They didn't even know that

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I'm not a math guy, right, Like, I'm not a math I
just never been good at math.And at the vand in the show,
he's like, hey, are yousmarter than a fifth grader flat earther.
I'm like, huh. He's like, what's eight times eight? And the
cameras are on. I'm like,yeah, dude, I don't do math.
I'm like, I don't want todo math right now. So I
fudge little embarrassed at that point.But you know, to be in an
environment like that, though, tobe like ridiculed, made fun of in

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an open environment where you're supposed toaccept it, it didn't feel right,
you know. And I knew.I knew it's comedy, but I think
it was a difference because it's comedyverse you still think you live on a
ball and you actually probably think thatI'm dumb. So it was a really
awkward feeling to be in a roomwith people that don't like you, that

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I think you're actually stupid. Andthen of course, you know, they
set me up for a math problemand I'm just like, oh man,
so it sucked. It sucked becauseI'm like, they're probably gonna they're probably
gonna run with that skit, youknow. Yeah, it's like tomato,
they're throwing tomatoes, you know,public aumilitation type ship like that he brought
out. He brought it exactly.He wrote for him. A comedy in
my opinion. Some guy came outin the car like a character's outfit right

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with a like in a doctor suit. Right. He always has characters come
and interrupt your and he's like justlike being weird. He didn't talk the
whole time. He's just like writingin my face. I'm like trying to
have an interview and like this dude'sso I'm like, I get it.
It's comedy, right, But thenhe then he brings out a green donut
and they're like, hey, youneed to eat that and all this stuff.

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It's not poison. And then hecomes back like you're gonna die in
three days. It's like it wasjust the weirdest shit I've ever been a
part of. And I want themlike, dude, like I knew it
was going to be that type ofshow, but I was like, man,
I just I wish I studied morein fifth grade math, you know,
yeah, dude, I feel it. Yeah, I wanted to touch
on that too. And that's somethingI was thinking, like before we even

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kick the show off. It isjust like all the infighting that goes on
within the supposed truth community, who'swe're all after the same thing, right,
We're just trying to figure out what'sgoing on here where we live,
what we're here to do. Youknow, at the end of the day,
I think it all all goes backto ourselves, and we got to
keep ourselves in check along that journeyas we're searching outside of ourselves to figure

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out what's going on. But Ithink that's that's all a part of it.
It's like like Tripoli says, conspiracieslead to spirituality, and I totally
agree, man. And you know, you see flat earthers that are like
anti Tartaria. You see people inTartaria that are anti flat earth that it's
like, what are we fucking doinghere? I think we're all after the

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same look, man, the Tartarianpeople, the Tartarian fans, well,
that's the old world. Tartaria isone empire out of money just for all
tested purposes. The Tartarian community.There are some non flat Earthers, but
I think their community is waking uprapidly to flat Earth, even someone like
Michelle Gibson. I've had many talkswith her about it, and she's kind

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of on board now in a sense. Right, And then you look at
the flat earth side. I wouldsay ninety eight percent of the flat earth
side is awakened to the old world. It's those few people, it's those
few characters I call them that wantto say, you know what, No,
this is a stupid rabbit hole andyou're wasting your time and you're discrediting

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our human race. And we didbuild those, even though every construction photo
is two guys with a top hatand their hands inside their pocket, and
it's like, yeah, we justbuilt that. You see our fucking ladder
back there. Yeah, It's like, dude, No, you didn't,
No, you didn't. You didn'tbuild that at all. Build that.
Then what you would do is youwould have photos of not only the architect
that you claim designed it, butyou'd have photos of your prisoners building it.

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You'd have photos of the interior handscarving statues, making waterfalls. I
want to see it all. Ifyou can have one picture of sticks,
then you can have a picture ofit half done, quarter done. They
don't, so you get a pictureof sticks or you get a building that's
done with scaffolding around it. Andfor those that don't know what scaffolding is,

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when you see scaffolding in an oldconstruction photo of the old world,
that is the first time they tooka picture of that temple or that building
of that technology. That's the firsttime they're like, we're gonna take a
picture of this, motherfucker. Wejust found this. We just found it,
we just found the city basically,and we're gonna take photos. Way

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before you take photos, put scaffoldingaround it, because now it looks like
that first photo of that. Ifyou have the first picture of any building
that ever existed, you had youtook the first picture of it, you
have a claim now that you thatyou built that. So you might as
well throw scaffolding up first, becausewell, it's not. It's it's a

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two party system, I mean sorry. Two reasons to do that. The
two reasons is you want to paintit. They wanted to paint all those
overall buildings because they didn't want topopulate a city. And people show up
and they go, well, whydo these buildings look weathered? Why do
they look like they were built twohundred years ago, not two weeks ago,
right, And so they painted allthese buildings white with this white,

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dull glow. You know, it'slike they all look like plastic now,
they don't look like stone and marbleanymore. So it was a very it.
You have to research this topic.You could be a lazy flat earther
and go, oh, the oldworld that looks too scary for me,
or too you know, confusing,or I don't get it. Well,

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I get it all the time.Man. Look, I respect Crow triple
seventies a smart guy, but youthink I give two fucks to He's not
about the old world. I getDMS all time. Dude, Crow triple
seven's not about this. I don'tfucking care he likes eggs and I don't.
I don't care about our differences.Okay, I don't care. I
don't care. He can eat meat. I don't. I don't eat meat.
He can eat meat. Stop dmingme that Crow eats meat too.

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Is the point. I don't knowif he does. It's just the point,
right, I don't care what someoneelse thinks. I don't care that
someone that's supposedly smart has renegged orfell back or then you got the robot
you Warren on. No one knowswhat he looks like, no one knows
he just the whole time. Hemakes a beautiful video on the Old World,
like three hours long or some shit. I don't know how long it

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was, right, I remember watchingthose. Yeah, a little boring,
a little boring for me, butit was very good information. And I'm
like, you know, this guy, he's pretty cool. I hope he
shows himself one day grows a pairsof balls, but either way, hey,
I respect him. Then he comesback with like a five minute video
like I was stupid, I waswrong, and I'm like, what are
you doing? Then he goes onsome shows like yeah, you know I
fell down the rabbit hole. I'mlike, yep, yeah, who client,

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who gave you the rope to comeup? Because that goes down forever.
Bro, you gave up too quick. You gave up too quick,
man. And it's one thing.It's one thing andre to be like,
hey, you know, I'm noton board with this, that and the
other, but we can all agree. I would hope, even I'm sure
Crow Triple seven is a very smartguy. He would agree with me.
There were giants, guys, Sowhen you correlate giants with giant doorways,

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giant books, giant guns, giantbuildings. It's not easy, and man,
I'm sorry, it's not hard toput together and for you to disco.
You know what, now, littlehumans like us five foot eight,
we built all that. We gothorses, we got a couple of steam
trains bringing in stuff. No marblesteel, were hundreds and hundreds of miles
away from San Francisco, from Chicago. That, dude, that doesn't make

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any sense. And when you startlooking at some of these cities from early
on, you don't really see manypeople in the photos. It looks like,
hey, looks something happened late seventeenhundreds, early eighteen hundreds. Even
something happened, I don't know whatit was. Could have been a a
some sort of electric grid burnout.It could have been some sort of direct

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energy attacked. Could have been,you know, a flood. I don't
know. Are all three I don'tknow. No one will know that.
But because you can't know that,don't throw it away. There's no reason
to throw it away just because youcan't know that you weren't there. But
I'm definitely not choosing Rockefeller's version.Sorry, exactly. Sorry, that's our

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alternative. Yeah here, well mainstreamhistory. You know, there's sad when
they fall back to mainstream because tome, when you're disregarding the old world,
the antique attack, the technology thatwas here, the inventions that were
here that were stolen and resold tothe to the populace, when you want
to throw that away, that meansyou are defending mainstream, even though you

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might have a different tail than mainstream. You want to be cool like min
it's not real mainstream mind's like inthe middle, Like shut the fuck up.
This whole book is lying to usabout characters, events, timelines.
What we're doing is trying to findthe truth and what old world order.
The new film coming out in afew months, what that's going to be

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showing. It's not going to beproving the old world. You know why
because I wasn't fucking there. Ican't go back in time, miss impossible.
But what I am doing is I'mshowing everyone. I'm bringing everyone to
a door, and I'm gonna saydo you want to walk through there?
If you want to walk when thefilm's over, you might want to walk
through all those doors. That's yourchoice. Come and I'm just showing people
doors man and literally too in termsof big doors. But I just I'm

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trying to open the mind of yourneighbor, your cousin, someone that's like,
I heard about this Tartarius shit.I don't know what it is.
Sounds stupid or it sounds cool,I don't know. Okay, what do
you do in a situation like that? Most people go watch John Levy,
watch My Lunch Break, watch MartinLeaky, watch Michelle Gibson. That's what
they do. And I'm not sayingthat's bad advice. I'm saying that I

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feel like a film like mine willopen their mind first. Now they will
go enjoy those channels I just named, because going into channels blind, you
gotta be really like interested in researchingat that point to start digging through little
podcasts and slide shows, and someof them are three hours, Like you're
gonna sit through the whole time,I hope. But if they don't do

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that, if it's not for themto sit there and watch John Levi and
My Lunch Break and just watch allthe stuff to wake up all the film's
a perfect scenario. So this isthe type of film Old World Order is
gonna be the type of film thatyou're gonna want to if you know about
the old world already, you're gonnawant to show your cousin, your neighbor,
your your buddy, your mom,your dad, whoever, you're gonna
want to show someone that you hadthat conversation with, and they're like,
I don't see it, I don'tget it. Right, This is what

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the film's for, right. It'snot to blow the lid up. No,
it's to wake up our family,our friends to the misconceptions of our
history. The mainstream narrative is completebullshit. It's not even that as bullshit.
It's that it was literally created onpaper and pushed to the masses.
None of that happened, right,So it's hard. It's a hard one

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because you know how many history buffsthere are. Man. You know,
many people grow up just watching theHistory Channel. It's like, hey,
by the way, all that's bullshit, and they're like, fuck, you
know it's not right that. It'shard, just like the ball. You
know that the ball's bullshit and they'relike, no, it's not my ball.
I got this. I got thisin kindergarten, you know. So
it's hard, man. But Ilove the challenge, bro. It just
just don't ask me math questions andwe'll be right. No, we're get

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all that. I hate talking aboutbath. Give me a calculator. I'll
be straight man eight times eight sixtyfour. Though, we'll coil the record
there tu. I found out thehard way. Don't worry, right,
you know? For me? IfI had like thirty seconds, I probably
far Yeah, yeah, especially whenyou're getting fucking yelled at though for an
hour cameras and you you fucking retardfloat earth. Yeah, so right in

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my head a little bit, Iget, but I get the strategy now.
I could respect that. At leastI could respect the strategy in someone's
head and ask them a simple question, make them look stupid, and that,
you know, hey, man againmade me look stupid, bro,
because the first hour of your show, I was educating your entire audience.
I was. I was a soldierof God for this. I don't care
about my backfired on them. They'llsee Oh dude, I don't care.

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I don't care if it goes viraland everyone makes fun of me. I
know who I am, I knowwhat I stand for, and I know
what work I'm putting here on thisearth and what I'm doing to set up
my afterlife, to set up myvibrations, to set up my family's future,
to set up everything I could possiblydo, and win this war.
That's the goal for me, seethe goals not I don't have too many

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goals in life, but that's onefor sure, is to win the war
and be here to talk about it, be here to educate those that found
out the hard way, be thereto teach those to not make the same
mistakes. Let's not let this happenagain. This has been two hundred years
in running now almost two hundred yearsto me that we've been under this slavery,
this new world order system that isit's crumbling now, guys, I

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know everyone feels it. It's crumbling, it's melting in their own face.
And eventually they're going to cave.They're going to either show all their cards
or they're just gonna go away andcave because the times are changing and then
times are ending. So if you'rewatching this podcast, you're on the right
side of history and you will behere for heaven on Earth. That's all
I can say. I love it, brother, I feel the same way,

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and I can definitely feel the shifthappening as we speak. And you
know, just within the last coupleof years, you've seen people coming out
of the woodwork like you would havenever guessed asking you questions. You know,
they would have never asked you ata billion years, and like it's
all around us, Like it's undeniableto me, dude, Like I went
on my own research journey with justhidden history within my state and learning how

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intertwined like freemasonry was within my state'shistory and every state's history in this country's
history as we know it today.And you know, like I can't remember
if it was you that said,like you know how all buildings say they
were founded and which every year andthe whole you know, literal interpretation of

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freemasonry, like you know, freebuildings and all these massive fires that happened
everywhere. You know, you rememberlearning about the Chicago fire and history class
in school, and that's about it, right, you know that, Yeah,
Like did you know that every cityin America was burned down? It's
like no, because if they talkto you that in school, you'd be

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like, wait, what the fuck, Like, well, for what?
Then there needs to be a reason, Then there needs to be you know,
a valid excuse why every major cityin this country. Look it up,
you're watching type in your whatever.Actually, you know what, even
small cities i've heard now are prettymuch have been torched if they were already
built out originally. If there wasa you know, a big castle there,

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they torched it and then they builtyour little small people community there.
Now, okay, so you haveto understand that this world has matching buildings.
People. You can go to Rome, you know, you can go
anywhere. Venice, you can goto anywhere in England, you can go
to Australia. You see these typesof white houses right, these structures,

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these capitol buildings everywhere. So eitherJapan, Korea, Russia, Germany,
they all got on the phone ineighteen fifty have phones and go hey,
let's all build the same style.But what English should say is, hey,
now ours a binner since eleven AD, guy, you're late. And
then Korea will say ours a binnersince eight hundred eighty. Well we're gonna
start building ours today even though wehave horses and steam trains. Go luck

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with that, Good luck with that. The problem is that the timelines are
all off. Most of these homes. I'm sorry. Most of these structures
in eighteen hundreds say they were builtin a year or two. This doesn't
make any fucking sense. Ten yearswould would kind of make sense. But
they can't do that because they don'thave enough time to squeeze all that those
ten year buildings in everything's quick,everything was knocked out. Who cares about

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winter? Who cares about this?Just go out there and knock it out.
No architects, no schools of architects. Yet these guys just know how
to do all this stuff. Now, we got architects that have twenty thirty
years of training and they build youdunk con donuts exactly. You know.
Talking to a construction buddy about it, he's like, well, like nowadays
it's just all about building, youknow, the cheapest building you can.

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And I get that premise, butit's like still, like where'd the creativity
go? Where'd like the masterpieces weknow about and like the wonders of the
world, Like, well, Ithink it's because it wasn't. Those weren't
buildings. You know, Like whatwe do when we build a building in
modern day, it's for a business, it's for a purpose, it's something,

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right, it's something your home,it's something back in the day.
I don't think they were built out. I'm sure they all lived in their
houses. And of course, youknow, I've seen a lot of over
world homes. They're fucking huge andthey're beautiful. But a lot of those,
a lot of you, the actualhomes that they would rest, they're
headed those. Most of those aregone now that there's not many left in
the world. But at the sametime, back in the day, if

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you think about it, you know, if they had their nice house and
they went to their gatherings or theirtheir healing centers or whatever they were doing
with their technology, I don't thinkthose structures were built to be anything besides
the technology that they were. AndI think that you would go inside and
you'd heal your body, you'd channelthe frequencies the organs, it would clean

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your body. That's why they calledorgan the organ organs. Everything was in
sync and connected then. And tome, it's not that our human breed,
our five foot eight average human peoplewere doing all that back then and
now we changed. I don't thinkso, man. I think that we
were standing side by side with thesepeople and we either destroyed them, we

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migrated them to another land where theymight be now or or something else,
you know, meaning you know they'resecretly captivated somewhere. I don't fuck you
know. You can fantasize on theon the third option, but there is
no fourth option, meaning there isno Well there weren't giants, or they're
there were giants next to us,side by side of it. Yes there

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was, Yes, there was,And I think that the collective images that
we can even find today, thebest is to go to yandex that's Russia's
Google. You can the images aregreat. Image search reverse search related images.
There's no algorithm, so it's perfect. You could look up giant pictures,
see related images all these you know, twelve foot people and figging up
thirteen foot bones and two three footlimbs the limb, So these are a

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huge species of humans. Now,is that ancestry in a sense? Is
that like you know Yao Ming's grandpa, Shi Shaquille O'Neil's grandpa, Is that
them? Well no, not inmy opinion, because well it's possible.
But because they stood next to smallpeople just like they do an NBA.
Now they can stand next to afive foot eight person. It looks small.

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Back then, it was a biggerdifference. They were way taller,
in my opinion, way stronger advance. They had this technology, they've they've
invented over the years, so manythings. And that's the problem is you
look at our past, you lookat the history books, and they'll tell
you that we had nothing before theseventeen hundred. So' like everything started then,
the Industrial Revolution, all these inventions, everything started within the last two

(26:12):
hundred and fifty years. What wasbefore that, literally nothing is nothing.
So that doesn't make sense when Iknow there was giants back in the day.
I know that that's why these giantbuildings had giant doors and giant everything.
It's not hard to see to me, it's harder to deny that.
And if you deny that, it'sbecause you are in a rabbit hole that

(26:36):
maybe you have an ego about thatyou didn't come up with. You don't
want to jump on a train,Dude, If that train says truth,
I'm fucking jumping on it, soshould you. Okay, I don't give
a fuck about was the last guyto get on. I'm gonna get on
that train because it's truth. That'sit, exactly. I don't care about
you know, popularity or well,we really can't prove that. Shut up

(26:59):
now, Yes you can by processof elimination, cross referencing, looking at
timelines, talking to architects like that'swhat I do. Have you talked to
an architect? No, well thenshut up. Architects will be the first
to tell you they can't do thattoday, and if they could, they
would simple as that. And I'mnot saying they can't because I think our
human spee she can build that withthe technology we have now. Of course,

(27:23):
of course we could design stone andmarble buildings to look beautiful. Why
don't we because we're all five eightright on average. Maybe that's why they
don't waste resources and waste time andwaste hand sculpture talent. Because I know
that people are size present day havethe talent to do that. Did they
have the talent to do that ineighteen fifty? The fuck not? No,

(27:48):
that's the bigger question. It's hardto not even a little bit man.
And they want to paint a pictureof we lived in shacks, we
had a horse and donkey, Wewere kind of stupid, We didn't match
as just a bunch of white peoplewith their western and draw like none of
that happened. But they paint thispicture of how stupid humanity was. But

(28:08):
look what they built. What doyou that doesn't match? Dude, that's
a big hang up for me.You can't have it both ways. They
need to represent our ancients, ourpast as advanced smart you know, teching,
architecturally advanced. Here's why I needreal reasons. I need real photos,
I need real documents on how theydid this stuff. There's nothing.

(28:32):
The only thing I find it lookslike manipulated photographs. And with the Victorian,
with the Victorian photography and the tricksthey used to do. They used
to use the darkroom with the photonegatives. They would layer, just like
photoshop. You have layers and youdrag this layer on top, you put
that under. That's what they did. That's where photoshop pretty much them from.
The idea, in my opinion,is layering negatives in the dark rooms.

(28:55):
So I take a picture of youright and your buddy far away with
nothing a white behind you. Icould take a picture of that, and
then I take a picture of thisbuilding, and then I take another picture
of the building. This picture ofthe building. I'm gonna scrape. I'm
gonna etch out the top dome ofthe cathedral. This snap of the building
I'm gonna put you in. Sonow I have a layer of you and
your buddy with your shovel, andI have the building now with no dome.

(29:18):
Now that third layer I'm gonna giveto my pro over here, and
he's going to draw perfectly an etcha wooden shaped dome with sticks on top
to make it look like they're constructingthe top of the building. Now that
picture gets pressed, filtered, overlaywith a Sepia filter, okay, to
make it all look like one shot. Then they put it into the public

(29:40):
library or the public museum, andhere's our official construction photo. And that's
as simple as it has to be. Now, I don't want to hear
this shit because I'll bring up NASAwhen people ask the same question, Oh,
they're all in on it, solike yeah, yeah, yeah they
are out the last two years.Yeah, they're all in on it.
And there's not many people that arejust tributing fake old world photos and stuff,

(30:02):
like a million people like shit,Like no, this was from probably
in my opinion, man, likethe seventies the eighties is when they really
start to go, all right,we gotta start layer and stuff. I
don't think they were doing all thisback then, all the time. I
think they had a handful of cathedralsthat they wanted to layer photoshop there in
the dark room for the masses.Back then, they didn't need that many.

(30:23):
Yeah we built this. Look.Oh wow, cool, you did
build it. Look we built it. Look. So everyone was fine with
that. But as modern time hasprogressed and as the Internet has grown,
I my opinion is that they havecreated a lot of these. These are
newer, newer edited photography of imagineif Congress I'm just I don't know,

(30:44):
I blame them, is I'm justsaying a random name. Congress has all
the old world real city photos,meeting San Francisco, nothing but cathedrals everywhere,
like beautiful, mind blowing end ofthe world of mainstream history type of
photos. Okay, so Congress hadall those, and it's twenty fifteen and
you're seeing a little bit of stuff. People are kind of talking about this

(31:06):
right now. Oh shit, peopleare talking about it now. Fuck,
it's Age of Aquarius. There's nothingwe can do, and people are gonna
keep talking about it forever. Whatcan we do well? Photoshop was out,
guys. That's all I'm saying.All I'm saying is that before anyone
started talking about it, they hadsome time here to go. Wait a
minute, all right, we gotthat that congres I'm gonna just blame them
Congress vault, right right, haveall the Vatican archives, the Vatican archives

(31:30):
of these old world cities. Let'spull some out and start fucking with it
now and put it on Wikipedia,put it in the library website. So
because then it looks like wow,okay, yeah, they were constructing that.
Look, there's so the three skechule. There's a three stage photo process
before, during, and done.And it's the same guys with their shovel.
Right, there's no prisoners. There'snot two thousand guy in the story

(31:52):
of two thousand guys building something atonce or something. It's like silence,
no photos of anything that you'd wantto see to go. I think they
built this now for sure. Nowand for someone to accept a guy with
a shovel, a guy with hishand in his coat with a top hat
and a bunch of wood planks onthe ground, and then a building that

(32:13):
looks half done and the other halflooks like pencil, pencil, wooden sticks.
If you want to believe that forreal construction, that's fine. I
don't want to know about it.Good luck with your life, but don't
be a flat earther looking at NASAphotos going this looks fake. This looks
fake. This one doesn't look thatbad. So because of that, they're

(32:35):
all real right, No, no, no, it looks fake. That
looks fake. That doesn't look thatbad. We know it's fake too.
We know what they're doing. Here. Collectively, we can all come together,
go we know what they're doing.Because in twenty fifteen, a lot
of people would hit me up,like what about this picture of the Earth
from space? What about this one? This one looks real? I go,

(32:57):
you know what, that one doesn'tlook that bad. I'll have to
get back to you. I wasn'twell, I wasn't intelligent enough to go,
okay, that's a fish eye.I was meaning it was brand new
to me at that time. Ididn't give up. You know why I
didn't give up. I didn't goback to the ball and go, you
know what, that one does lookreal. I'm done now, nevermind,
is because I already saw a coupleof fake ones. So once you see

(33:19):
a couple of fake construction photos andyou zoom in and you go, why
is there two tone skies? Whyare the little hoes the windows in the
building have darker sky, but thesky's white. Everything is all. Why
do you zoom in on the outlineof the cathedral and you see a white
glow that is etching? That isold school Victorian photography manipulation. So when
I start seeing that, I gookay. Even though some of them do

(33:42):
look legit, it's like, man, it's hard, you gotta find.
All of a sudden, they zoomand I go, why'd they draw a
horse there? That's okay. Therest of the phollow looks pretty cool,
just like we could say about NASAonce in a while. They did it.
That one's not bad, right,we know it's fake, but yeah,
it's not bad. They could foolpeople with that. I get it.
The construction photos. I'm like,yeah, it's not bad. Then
I zoom and I go, oh, they couldn't get me on this one.

(34:07):
They painted a horse and only onehorse painted, but why why?
Right? And when people go theydidn't have photoshop? But then I go
okay. So all the when Igo to anti shops. Me and my
wife, we go to anti shopSlode. I see a lot of eighteen
ninety five postcards, nineteen oh twopostcards official real right, they have these
like templates to them where the background'sgone, like a photoshop, like what

(34:30):
we do now, you know,a thie background's gone. They like pace
the city. They got you know, graphics and it looks really nice.
Well, how they do that?How they do that back then? Right,
it's photoshop, that's what. That'swhat the process of what that is
these postcards, these themed postcards isphotoshop. It's just it's magic. You

(34:53):
know. They did it differently,is my point. So you can't say,
oh, well they didn't do thatback then. Yes they did.
They did innocently like postcards, andthey did it faulty, you know,
being deceivers with the construction, youknow, like the ongoing rumor was always
you know, like they're you know, one hundred and fifty years ahead you

(35:15):
know in deep ops or like withinyou know, whatever's kept from us,
you know, within the government andshadow departments within it and all this stuff.
Like that's always the case. Youknow, they're always one hundred years
ahead of before the big flat screen'scoming out. You know, they probably
wouldn't have technology for well, theydid. And if people don't, if

(35:38):
you want to know that instead ofbelieve it, go read The Iron Republic.
So the book from the late eighteenhundred. It's a guy got on.
He was tired of the tyrannical naturein the late eighteen hundreds. I
wonder why the great fires were happeningacross the country. So he got out.
They're burning the city down. Hegot out, got his ship with
his crew, took off. Didn'tknow where they were going. The story

(36:00):
is called Iron Republic. People go, oh, that's just a fantasy book.
No, it's not. But atthe same time, even if you
thought, even if you thought itwas, hear me out, they're still
talking about what they saw past Antarctica, the other lands over there. He
saw the continent called themselves Iron Republic, the way we call ourselves the United

(36:21):
States of America. They're the IronRepublic. There were bigger people, smarter,
advanced people, very nice. Theysaid, you're from New York.
How did you get here. You'renot supposed to be here. Come on
over, Oh my god, you'rehere. Kind of low key okay,
they had flat screen TV's on thefucking wall back then. Guys. It's
in the book. It's in thebook. So whether you think that statusy

(36:42):
or not, they were still talkingabout what we're living through now, because
in my opinion, that book reignstrue and they have this advanced technology.
I think the giants they they're waypast Antarctica, or they're in by the
North Pole, or they're scattered.Who knows is up underground? Even who
knows? Yeah heep underground? Yeah, man. But I'll never rule out
extra continents because to the flat earthersthat get scared of extra continents, like

(37:05):
now there's now God's in jeopardy.That doesn't make any sense. Where in
your Bible does it say there's sevencontinents right nowhere? So when God talks
about the Earth, the world,all of his creation, it could be
three thousand fucking continents. Why wouldyou ever put a limit on the creator?

(37:27):
What's wrong with you? Why wouldyou do that? Because the book
didn't describe the amounts. There's noamounts in the whole damn book and even
the Koran, even the any ofthem, there's no seven continents. You
know who taught you there was sevencontinents your school teacher. That's acteller education,
and it's like, dude, wehaven't even discovered you know what a

(37:47):
tenth of the ocean, if thatis, Like, I think that's a
good metaphor for you know, somany other things in our world. I
wanted to get your thoughts on,you know, the native burial mounds and
how that all ties in because I'vebeen to Kahokia Mound near Saint Louis,

(38:09):
which was, you know, thismecha of civilization they say, way before
the USA we know today. Andthen I recently discovered like this Wichita tribe
down in Kansas. Apparently they werethe second biggest civilization next to Kahokia at
that time. This was just recentlydiscovered. And they also discovered another serpent

(38:32):
mound down in Kansas that looks eerilysimilar to the one in Ohio, which
I found fascinating. But yeah,and like this tie over between the Freemasons
and the natives around that time,oh in the mid eighteen hundreds, around
the Civil War, and like thewhole five civilized tribes, And there's a

(38:53):
lot that doesn't add up as faras like the history of that, like
how we were never told about youknow how they were weaponized and like used
against their own people, and howthey talk about giants and all their ancestral
stories that are passed on orally fromyou know, generation to generation. Yeah,

(39:14):
we don't know shit. That's onething everyone needs to admit is that
we don't know anything about our ancestors. We don't know anything about where it
came from. That's why I hadBjpenn, the MMA Super Hall of Famer,
in this film, not that he'san old world expert, but I
wanted him in the film because Iknow that he knows a lot about Maui.
He knows a lot about the destruction, He knows a lot about Hawaii.

(39:35):
That none of the people in Hawaiiknow where they're from. They don't
know where they come from. Theyhave one story of their past of just
a bunch of basically idiots with stickscoming in poking their way into America.
What do you mean You're in themiddle of an ocean, right, what
are you talking about? Okay,you got there on boat and you pope
people, this is our land now. No. What I think is that
there was already a big continent therethat sunk during the event, and Hawaii

(39:58):
was left. Okay, Hawaii didn'tget flooded. I think some of it
got flooded. Some of their buildingsdo look flooded. But because I was
just there. But Hawaii is asmall piece of land that's sitting in the
middle of nowhere. Kind of doesn'tmake sense. It kind of does make
sense. So if it was alreadyon a continent, look up the continent
of New m you so look thatup. It's kind of like Atlantis was

(40:21):
up there. This is mew.Who knows how many continents were in this
known world that we know before beforethe flood or before the event whatever that
wasn't there. But God knows howmuch is left in the North in the
past, the sixtieth parallel man.We could be on one of many ponds,
right And I'm not a extended pondbeliever per se, but I do

(40:43):
open my mind to the idea.And I feel like if you don't open
your mind to that idea, you'reclosing your mind again into a dome,
a snow globe where God gets madand shakes it. And this is all
there is. This is what feelslike the globe to me. This is
all there is, this, thisdome or you're stock at a Truman show,
right, I don't really preach theTruman show flat Earth, and I'm

(41:05):
not going to see her net like. There isn't a dome, you know
why because I don't fucking know.But to say there is a dome is
how do you know that it's limit? Is it touching? For when you
send these rockets up and they stopat seventy two miles, they hit something.
Okay, for all intensive purposes,for the ones that believe in a

(41:25):
dome, we'll call that the domefor now. Okay, they hit the
dome seventy two miles up. Comeon, man, I admitted earlier,
I'm not a math guy, butadvanced math, where I do use a
calculator, I have done problems.There's a problem with seventy two miles up
a dome, right, it hasto come down somewhere. So then this
would be twelve miles up, soyou'd hit you know, an airplane would

(41:49):
have hit. It's just it doesn'tmake logical, physical, scientific sense to
me to have something that stops atseventy two miles and then it has to
if that's pretend that was the ithad to come down so that means if
you were in Australia, you'd throwa ball in the air and you hit
the dome. I've never heard thatstory here. A lot of people would
probably telling me about that they hittheir head. Or an Antarctica, you

(42:12):
wuld be able to travel there.The dome would be hitting your head like
you're like, I'm on the outside. It's coming down, because it had
the shape of a dome goes down. Where is this part? Where's that
part at? Where? Where isthere? No evidence, no test,
no proof. So I kind offall back on a physical dome. I
look at it from a scientific standpoint. All waters what level? Okay,

(42:34):
So if there's an ocean above myfucking head, why would I not think
that that's all so level? Right? Why would I? Why would I
not also think that the reason itlooks like it's curving is the same reason
it looks like the sun's doing it, the same reason it looks like the
boat is doing that. The sky'snot curving either. Those clouds in the
distance on the horizon that are onthe ground. We all agree, right,

(43:00):
is ten thousand feet in the air, but it's on the ground.
Everything is flat top to bottom inmy opinion is flat, and there's a
lot of world that got built inhere. We don't know anything else.
In my opinion, we don't knowshit else. Besides, they lied about
how much land there is. Theylie about how big our world is.
They lie about where we can go, what we can do. And to

(43:22):
speculate on domes, to speculate evenon more Land, it's not good,
it's not healthy. The reason Ispeculate on more land opposed to a dome
because I don't want people to belike, by the way, you're still
trapped, right, No, I'mall for you know. I'd rather be
like, hey, can we justgo explore? Because you can agree,
and so can everyone in your audience. There's a lot of receipts in terms

(43:45):
of more Land. There's a lotof covering up in terms of more Land.
There's a lot of reason. Inmy opinion, No, yeah,
you better lot, you better createa globe. Everyone could just fucking leave.
We can't have a slave system.We can't have a slave system without
it. We can't. We needa ball. We need the seven continents.
Maybe eighth then that they knew aboutbecause you might have been around.

(44:06):
I don't fucking know when they justtook all of it and wrapped into a
ball and said, look, nomore exploration. Shut up. There's eight
continents or seven continents, whatever itwas. And they populated our country specifically
insane asylums, regular school asylums forthe children, bringing in children's on orphan
trains by the hundreds every day.Come on all these kids. Put them

(44:28):
into these big city centers. Teachthem the Rockefeller Way, teach them where
they came from and the dinosaurs,and teach them the Big Bang, and
teach them all this shit. Andthese are our great grandparents I'm speaking of
getting taught to this. Okay,maybe great great but either way, it's
sad. I had a Masonic homefor children in my hometown I grew up,

(44:49):
and that like always like I alwayswas like this is just kind of
odd. But you know, likeeven within Missouri, I just discovered there's
like this historical museum that was anOdd Fellows orphanage, and it's like,
these are all Masonic orphanages that like, you know, I've watched a lot
of Mind Unveiled and he does alot of good videos on with the bats

(45:13):
in reference too, and you know, the cabbage theory and all that.
But yeah, there's just a lotthat doesn't add up into like throw the
baby out with the bathwater, LikeI'm totally disregarding all this. I think
it's just complete ignorance, and Ithink we can all be guilty of that
on a variety of subjects, butlike to do that with history, I

(45:35):
think is just shallow in such asuch a simple way to you know,
give you that comfort of well,that's that's troubling to me, or I
don't have all the answers, soI'm just gonna throw it out period.
And I think there's so much toresearch and dive into. You know.
People can say it's a distraction awayfrom you know, bettering yourself because I'm

(46:00):
in the person you want to seein the world and all this stuff.
But I feel like you can doboth, Like you don't have to let
it be a distraction. I feellike it's part of your journey and part
of you coming to your own conclusions, part of you understanding your purpose here
and like your place in it.And I feel like understanding our history is
a big part of that, notjust about understanding where we are, but

(46:21):
how we got here, you know, and what led to and who our
ancestors are and who you know whoused to live here and what used to
be here, and how we havecompletely devolved. And that's the most important
part of it to me, isthat we're under this Darwinism evolution big bang
concept that some people want to actlike is still legit in the history books.

(46:46):
Like no, they're not lying aboutthat. The old World's asia,
Like shut the fuck up. Theyare literally destroying humanity by not only the
un beauty of our construction. Nowour buildings that are worthless. They mean
nothing to God, they mean nothingto Earth. These buildings are wood,

(47:07):
bullshit, thrown up, has nopurpose, just to live and pay all
this money. Everything was completely differentback then. They don't want us to
know. They don't want us toknow that we had airships that could hold
two thousand people in there and youcould travel the world, and I mean
the fantasy world I was just describing. You could travel, You could go

(47:27):
to any land in the world onan airship because it's helium. It's like
a mercury regenerating type of you canjust go. You don't got to stop,
you can go. You could travelfor five years straight and what's up
there a restaurant. They've had barsup there, dance clubs up there.
You could do it. It's sobig up there. And that's the problem

(47:49):
is most people look at a blindwhat do they think, Goodyear? And
they think stupid, They think slow, they think silly. They think I
wouldn't be able to get anywhere inthat It would take be four days to
get to Texas. Who wants thattechnology anymore? You have to understand that
the Goodyear blip is created for onereason to not only make people think that

(48:09):
their stupid air forms of air travel, but they're going very very slow.
On purpose. People, they're goingsuper slow. They want to paint this
picture of how retarded those were whenthose used to go two to two to
three hundred miles an hour, andthey were a lot of them, I
in my opinion, now a lotof them were free, free travel,
free energy. They would dock ontop of like Empire state buildings, those

(48:32):
those flag pole antenna things whatever themainstream calls them. No, those were
docking stations. These little things wereon almost all the buildings in our country
because airships were everywhere flying around.They would dock connect and the people would
get out and walk down out anelevator and go to their go wherever they're

(48:52):
going, whatever city you're going to, you get out, you go.
So it was a beautiful for me. It was a really cool way to
live. And I want back,man, I want airships back, you
know, I want giants back wherethey I hope they're still around. I
hope that we see them soon,man, because if there are still some,
it's time. And I'm not talkingabout Shaquille O'Neal Yao Ming. You
know, like they would beat themfidget. Yeah, they would be the

(49:16):
midgets in their family. And whoknows, there might be Shaq yao ming
people like that my new bowl,Jorge Marryson. There's a lot of tall
sports players that I can just topmy head, right and seven foot eight
and all that almost eight foot It'slike, you know, is that a
freaking nature andre the Giant? Arethese just random cases? Or is this

(49:36):
DNA that has been passed down?Is this you know, maybe a NEPHLM
nephlum and a human uh two hundredyears ago got it on and uh that
was Shaq's grandpa, right, Imean, you know, and the human
specie has been reproduced ever since.So now they're getting a little shorter.
Maybe Shaq's kid, if he hasone, will be only seven foot,
and then his kid will be six' eight, So we keep getting smaller.

(49:59):
Even their breed will keep getting smaller. But the problem I have is
that the twelve foot people, theten foot people, whatever you want to
call them. How tall were theirgrandpas? How tall were their great grandpa's?
How far back does this go?Why don't we know any of this?
Why aren't we taught this in school? Why did they purposely leave out
giants? They purposely about airships,They purposely out the building of these buildings.

(50:22):
You would think that even in thehistory books they would be talking about
the construction of the Vatican or thethese huge temples or anything they don't.
Well, like, the natives haddifferent names for things. Then the Masons
came in and changed. Like.You know, last year I was in
Fort Collins, Colorado, and yougo to this horse tooth Mountain. It

(50:42):
was originally called the heart of aGiant, So we changed the name from
a heart of a giant to horsetooth like, which sounds better, do
you you know? It's like?And I would also add like who also
has a monopoly on helium today NASA. It's like, I think that's a
huge thing to look into for peoplethat are out of world. Yeah,

(51:06):
well, it's right around the sametime, man, the fifties is when
they're really like shairships all this stufflike changing the schools. Yeah, NASA
starting. I think NASA had atleast a twenty to thirty year plan to
really compromise every helium, every pieceof helium in the world, every tank
of helium. They want it intheir hands because not only did they need

(51:28):
them for their weather balloons. Sincethe fifties, they've been throwing them up.
All the satellites are going up withwith weather balloons, so they needed
the helium for that. But Ido think there's a you know, I
don't think they do anything like thatwithout multiple reasons. I don't think they
make any moves without multiple reasons ofbenefit. And I think another benefit was
to completely stop us. Guys.This is where I come from with this.
They we are smart enough now tobuild our own airship and have I

(51:53):
mean, I'm in a small one, A small one that fits forty people.
Then that's small, dude, AndI mean that fits forty people on
the top the bottom. You geta three seater on the bottom. Super
small. You can put in youryard. If you have a nice size
yard, that's your You can getin there and go. What do you
mean, you go to your friend'shouse, Park on the roof, park
on his roof. They literally willslow down. It's so slow. It

(52:15):
just say parks. I mean,they're so simple. We can all have
one. We can all travel everywherewe want to go for free every day.
But no, that's why there's nowater cars. No, they won't
have it. So now if Igo, look, man, let's go
make an airship. I got togo to the party store and you're there
at four o'clock. They're out ofhelium because every party store has the one

(52:37):
percent. That one percent that NASAdoesn't own is spread out through the party
helium balloon stores and things like thatin the world. That's one percent.
And that's why you go. Ialways tell people to make the joke.
Go to the party store an hourbefore they close. You ain't getting a
helium balloon. They're out. They'reout, man. They only have limited
supply. And so my point iswe can't we can't make an airship.

(52:59):
We need a lot of helium andwe can't get it. We don't have
access. So this is why wehave to dissolve NASA. That's one of
my other goals is to take themdown level with me. Where am I
at here? This way? Levelwith me. That film Justin Harvey in
that film, when we talk tothe astronaut about the bubbles in space,
he got in her face and said, it's all underwater. Okay. So

(53:21):
that scene forced the Associated Press YEAto contact NASA for a statement, and
NASA's statement was, no, that'sjust our training facility. We're always up
in space. You know, theybullshit the response, but you see,
I'm just I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm just this little guy. Man,
I'm just this little guy. Thismight my seven hundred square foot apartment.

(53:45):
You know, it's like you're justthis little guy, a regular guy.
But I just made Associated Press andNASA talk. This is the power
we have as human beings. Thisis the power we can continue to do.
I want everyone to do what I'mdoing. Keep making videos, make
it, film, making songs,doing everything, podcasts, shows, talk,
communicate and start locally, start inyour state. This is what Justin

(54:07):
did. This is why we setit up that way. Justin Harvey went
to Florida. That was the otherscene where he's talking to the council about
the ISS and that they're stealing moneyfrom us, and that got a lot
of attention. World Star Hip Hop. UFC was covering stuff. There's doing
articles on level with me, especiallybecause if Bryce Mitchell was in it,

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so it's like and Eddie Bravo,there's articles posted. What do those articles
do? Of course initially but ohthe arts flood boll oh, no way,
he's in this film. I gottawatch it. And they watch it.
I get an email saying, youjust woke me up. Man,
Holy shit. I was not evencoming into this too. I was not
coming into this to wake up.I was coming into this because I like
Bryce, or I love Joe Bauman, or I love Eddie Bravo. So
they watch it and they're like,damn. And now they go back and

(54:53):
watch Level and the next level,right, because it's like, okay,
now you could go back to thebasics. What's this sun? What's the
moon? And I try to makethese basic films so you could wake so
you could wake someone up with them. It's not to prove anything. Well,
no, not necessarily, I'm sorry. I am proving that NASA is
lying, that's for sure, onepercent. It's undeniable at this point.

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And I am proving that we couldsee too far. I am proving that
the optics, the curvature formula,there's a lot of proof, the Nikon
camera. I'm sure you've heard aboutthat, of course. But when people
say, did you prove the Earthis flat? I'm like, well,
kind of. But the thing isis that you know, I'm not a
millionaire, guys, I would needa lot of money, a lot of

(55:35):
budget to do things like put myhead together with other greats and go,
how can we prove a lot ofthings? Money? Right, not my
cup of tea. Man, I'vebeen in poverty most of my life.
But I'm here, I'm living,so I'm blessed for that. But my
point is is that I know withmoney that that time will come and we
will be able to establish something whereit's universal, hands down, it's Overproof

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costs a lot of money in somesenses, it does. In other senses
it doesn't. Because when you justshow people that they're seeing too far and
that all this calculations are completely off, that means one or two things to
the globe head One, the globeis twenty no, not even be like
two hundred times bigger than they toldus. When even with that, there's
still be calculable measurable photography, youknow, photograph pictured. I don't know

(56:23):
the word imagery of curvature or too. You know, it's a it's a
stationary plane. Water needs to becontained the containers. The highest continent on
Earth is Antarctica. When you getout of that container, you don't fall.
You can't go swim in a lake, and then say don't fall out
of the l Hey, don't fall, I'm in a lake. What are

(56:45):
you talking about? Fall off ofwhat? So when you get out of
that lake, you're on land.What's what else is there after that?
I don't know. And for anyflat arter to completely rule out more land
or more more of God's creation,more of God's people, maybe more species,
maybe giants, maybe aliens. NotI don't mean gray guys, but
bug guys, but just another meaninganother form of human. I always make

(57:09):
the joke. I'll leave you withthis because I gotta run. Yeah,
it's a joke. This is notracist, guys, I'm just making a
point. The first time an AfricanAmerican saw an Asian, or a Caucasian
saw an Indian, or you coulddo any of them, the first time
in history they saw each other.Is that an alien to them? Is?

(57:30):
Fuck? Yeah, it is.They don't know, and they're like,
you have a nose too, youhave teeth, your ears, everything's
the same, but everything different.What the fuck? Hey? So that's
my point. That's my point.Though. I think there are aliens out
there. I think there are there. Maybe they're blue, maybe they're smurfs.

(57:51):
I don't fucking know, but Ibet you they look just like us.
And I bet you there's some ofthem are bigger, maybe some are
tiny. Maybe we don't know.I'm a sasquash guy. I've heard the
right. So we don't know whatGod has created. We don't know what
Satan has created. We don't knowa fucking thing. I'm not going to
allow a book in my hotel roomfor free, that's there for free to

(58:12):
tell me everything. That's not howit works for me, man, That's
not how it works. There's moreto it. There's more to it than
that. That is a nice guideline. I fuck with it, yeah,
for sure, it's a good guideline. But to take that as that's it
or that or to tell I canhave my own concept based off that book
different than yours, that's fine,But at the end of the day as
a flat arthor to not go youknow what, I wonder what is over

(58:35):
there? And I wonder what isin the north. I wonder what's really
going on? That is the keyto me. I don't need anything else
to prove a creator. I don'tneed anything else to know there's God.
I already know that, So speculatingoutside of anything for me, God is
happy with me. That's like,you know what you're doing exactly you're supposed
to do. Every man, woman, and child, well, I can't

(58:57):
even say it that way. Everyhuman that is born and has a something
in their brain right that what doyou yearn for? Naturally, love,
food, comfort, security, Buta big one that we're all born with
that we don't talk about is exploration. We're supposed to be explorers, migrators.
This is what we're born with ashumans. We have been told since

(59:19):
birth exploration's done. Shut the fuckup, there's nothing else to do.
You need a slave job, youneed to pay taxes, you need to
dive cancer. And this is asystem that we need to break in our
society for the future of our kids. Men oh brother well said, and
real quick, just let the listenersknow where they can find you. And
when the documentary can be coming outor one it's gonna be drowned is probably

(59:42):
flipped right. Well, it's Hibloproductionsdocumri. It's all right, Hiloproductions dot
com. Any rabbit hole, throwme a couple of bucks, downloaded,
share it, re upload it toyour I don't do whatever you want.
When they went to yours, it'slike you bought a book, right,
so take it, do whatever youwant with it. My website will always
have updated news when Old World orderscoming out. I'm hoping the end of
May. Me and su Peters havetalked. It looks like that it's gonna

(01:00:06):
be. I got a lot ofwork to do, that's the problem.
But I don't want to rush iteither. But again, remember it's simple.
This is simple. This is ifyou've seen level, this is level
for the Old World. So it'sgonna be very simple, very basic.
Doctor Narcolongo, I got the greatarchitect Matthew Smith. I got Michelle Gibson.
Like I said before, BJ Pennpopped in Max of course, yeah,

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Max Egan, Martin Leeky, mybuddy, Johnny Giampappa, he jumped
in this a few times. Sowe got some good content in this one.
And again I I if you're madat them of how basic it is,
yell at me. It's fine.I told them, hey stop cut
cut the lenses a ten year oldright now, go and this is what
this is me. Let me beme because even though that the old world

(01:00:52):
community is like, oh I can'twait for this. You're gonna be You're
gonna like it, trust me,you're gonna love it, you're gonna share,
You're gonna give it to your friends. Okay, I hope. So
but remember you might know most ofthis stuff. Okay, it's not for
you. Watch Level is a flatEarth. They're watching this right now,
right now, you go watch Level. You didn't learn anything right exactly,

(01:01:15):
but don't be disappointed in that.Take that and go. You know what?
That was so good put together.It's like twenty fourteen all over again.
For me. I just woke upagain. That was great, right,
show the person that is telling youyou're dumb, right, That's why
I made it for your for yourfeelings, right, I made it for
your yeah, to share, careto go you know what, hair,

(01:01:37):
guess what, Shut the fuck upand watch this. That's that's why I
made it. And that's why Iget so much praise and love from my
community, my my audience, mypeople that grow with me, and the
ones that don't like me. Isbecause maybe they all he talks about more
Land, or are he's friends withsomeone I don't like. It's the stupidest
thing, and I'm like, I'mtrying to save the world. I don't
care about your feelings at all,no offense, I just don't. I'm

(01:01:59):
trying to say the world. Sopeople like you, keep doing what you're
doing, bro, keep talking,keep podcasting, keep promoting, keep getting
people on, you know, havingdifferent experiences, because every single person that
watches your show can learn something atsome point and it makes them a better
person. Because we we're in awar, as you know, and this
war is going to have an endresult of split. It's going to be

(01:02:20):
the ones that do not make itand the ones that are waking up that
are they're getting there. We're allgoing to be together one day. We're
all going to live in a differentworld. Man. I'm telling you,
I'm just trying to do my bestto get people ready because I think it's
your knowledge and wisdom in here,this vibration, this core of who you
are as a knowledgeable, wisdom beingthat is going to keep you alive more

(01:02:44):
than anything else in the world movingforward. So I think my duty is
even more important because it's knowledge I'mtrying to uphold us. It's stress,
you know, it's it's you lettinggo of the brainwashing, dumb shit that
they gave us all. Let itgo, do it in a slid away
instead of like here, just watchthis slideshow for three hours. I mean,
it's not going to work right,well said, Well, thank you

(01:03:07):
so much. Thank you all forlistening out there. I send you all
peace and love. Hope you havea beautiful us the week. Thanks for listening.