BONUS: Guest Appearance on Bricks in the Wall Podcast

Myself & Jordan made a guest appearance on Juan's Bricks in the Wall Podcast. Enjoy friends!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome one, Welcome all, Welcomeback to the show, Fellas. I've
been in a little bit of ahiatus. I was having some family issues.
The guy I have on now,he was supposed to be on the
show a week ago. But youknow, it's strange in this podcasting game,
you could get pretty dark sometimes,and I've noticed I'll go through cycles.

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I'll be like really hopeful that thepeople are waking up, that the
world is changing, and then I'llgo through a slump like, oh man,
people are done there a sleep,nothing's gonna change. And I go
through these waves sometimes. And lastweek, you know, I was having
family issues and I was kind ofdown on everything about the world and how
all the greats are killed, MartinLuther King, John Lennon, JFK.

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All the great people who really wantto help the world out are some hell
murdered. Why why do these thingshappen? And so I was having in
a bad time and I didn't feellike doing the podcast, so I postponed
it. But we have him onnow. He is Andre Mittie, and
we have his girlfriend on the showtoo. These are great people. He
is the host of the Ascension ofthe Chessman podcast. It's a great show,

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a lot of great topics, andit's great this podcasting game. It's
great because it's like television. Butwe don't hate on other networks or shows.
We kind of want to work together. We want to shout out to
the other. We just want tospread love and information. And I love
this and right now I'm on thecycle of a good mentality. You know,

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we're moving forward and everything. Butwithout any further ado, guys,
I want to welcome you out tothe show. Andre and his girlfriend.
Hi, guys, welcome to theshow. Hey, it's a pleasure to
be here. One. Thanks forhaving me and my girlfriend Jordan here.
She's on her second or third podcastnow. Actually our second one was a

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roundtable with Third Eye Podcast and we'rehaving some recording issues or something or the
host actually like couldn't hear anything,and we, like everyone else on the
round table, was like having ablast ghost He was like pros screen the
whole time. Yeah, yeah again, Like I said, we all have

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like this. It's a community wherewe're all trying to help each other out.
On like TV, they're like staytuned, don't change the channel.
Fuck those other guys. It's like, no here, We're like, no,
go check him out. He hasgood info. And this is what
I love about this community. Yeah, I love the dude, because what
Ghost is doing over there is havinglike a Friday night hang slash, um,
you know, a roundtable just kindof bullshit, non current events or

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whatever, and um. You know, I think it's another sense of community.
And you know, that's what I'venoticed too. Along this podcast journey
is like just making connections all overthe States and you know, even outside
of the States, all around theworld. And it's really cool, man,
just to get to know people inthat way, because you know,

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it's one thing to like talk overa zoom call, but like get to
see him face to face and hangout in person. It's awesome. So
I've I've enjoyed it. Man.I've always said, it's not about what
you know, it's about who youknow and exactly it can take you far
in life. Yeah. Man,it's beautiful. Brother. I love it.
And when you really think about it, what we're doing essentially is we're
just chilling in a campfire and talking, just shooting the ship. And we've

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become so I don't know, sobusy with the world that that's kind of
been taking away from us where youhave to carve out time for someone to
talk and it's sad, but herewe are. So tell me a little
bit about yourself, Andrea, andthen Jordan, if you can tell me
a little bit about yourself, andthen we'll talk about how y'all awokened and
the steps y'all did to do apodcast and to actually put your voice out

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there. Yeah, totally, Jordan, you want to start or you want
me to go first, Okay.So yeah, my name is Andre Middy.
Um. You know, I'm nodifferent than anyone else. Um,
just kind of had a bit ofshift and perspective and mindset and just like

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who am I? What am Ihere to do? Type awakening? I
guess you could call it. Um. I would say from an early age,
man, I was questioning. Um, I was always getting that because
I said so from my parents oryou know, if I was getting in
trouble like that would be the end. And I was like, what do

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you mean? Well, like becausewhy you know, like there was never
an edge to questioning for me,and that got me into trouble sometimes,
but you know, overall, likeI made some rules for myself early on
or just like moral principles about um. You know, once I started experimenting

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with cannabis and you know, realizingthis wasn't what they sold us at all
about what this plant was. Youknow, all the lies we'd been told
going through the DARE program, andit just seemed very hypocritical to me.
I mean, I'll never forget likeat a young agency and the sheriff who
taught our DARE program like smoking acigarette right after the class, right after

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telling us like all the dasks fromtobacco. It was just like what a
paradox man. And you know,shifting into Catholic school. I was kind
of forced into that in sixth gradeand you know, getting taken out of
public school, which I ended upin public school because I was baptized Lutheran

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and went to a Lutheran school fora bit. But I was having trouble
reading and you know, I hada speech impediment, and they just didn't
have the resources or the money tolike higher you know, a teacher specifically
for the kids that were struggling readingearly on, like myself. And there's

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no shame in it, you know, I think we all have our gifts
and our downfalls but at the endof the day, they're all lessons A
teach us you know, what we'regood at and what we're not where we
need to lean on others when weneed to. And yeah, it's been
a lifelong journey, but yeah,I would say so. I left the

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Lutheran school because of that to goto a public school that had those resources,
and I was able to read bettershifting into the public school, and
then my brother got in some juveniletrouble and my parents transferred us both over
to a Catholic school and just youknow, having uniforms and like getting fine

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for chewing bubblegum and just like allthese like bullshit rules that I I understood,
like the morality to it, andI'm thankful for like the good stuff
I took from it. You know, you can always take good from any
situation, I think, and that'swhat I tried to do. But I
had a change of heart, andit just really like the questions just kept

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bubbling to the surface, and likehaving class discussions, you know, really
asking those deep questions I think everyonehad inside of them, they were just
too afraid to share. And tome, I was like, why not
like extend the conversation, like wewere literally graded that was a part of
our grade in that religion class,was like how much we participated in those

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class discussions. And I noticed likemy grade started to slip when I started
to question more and asked those questionsthat I would piss off the dud teach
of the class. And I waslike, well, I just went like
honest, the answers here like that'sall bascot but yeah, yeah, And
once I realized that, I waslike, well this ain't for me.
I don't think that. I kindof was a little lost spiritually and was

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still you know, not knowing anyother answers. But it's got to be
the church, Like the church isthe only way. And so I went
to this Pentecostal church after going toa few different churches around my area,
and I really connected with the pastor. He actually became a pastor through this

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crazy LSD experience that kind of blewhim wide open and realized he was like
called to be a minister and preachthe word of God. And I really
respected that or always found it fascinating, and you know, was a couple
of years later, after really helpingout in that church and growing a lot

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through that, but kind of realizingthat what I was looking for out side
of myself, I had within andI could directly connect to Source or God
when I choose to, and whenI opened up to that and get out
of my own way, and Ididn't need a middleman anymore. Like it

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was through a breakthrough LSD experience myown that you know, I had some
very deep realizations and had a lotof answers that I never had answers,
or I had questions answered that Ihad never had answered before. And uh,
I had that direct experience, andfrom then on I kind of went

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out on my own spiritual path,kind of blind, um, you know,
searching for answers, waking up toyou know, nine to eleven and
the lies about cannabis and that wholeconspiracy, and you know, just diving
down the rabbit hole. From thenon. There was a time I I

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worked for Gallop right out of highschool, and you know, I was
talking to people about politics. Iget paid for it, and you know,
just talking to people from all aroundthe country and the world about politics
really open my mind to all thedifferent perspectives out there, and like how
much more alike we are than weare different. We just choose to focus

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on the differences. And it's it'sreally like comical at the end of the
day, like I always tell people, like life is a fucking trip,
Like that is the trip. Like, yeah, we can go on ayahuasca
ceremonies and journey and do hallucinogens,mushrooms like all these things, but at
the end of the day of lifeitself is already revealing that to you.

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Every day you wake up and youknow, they're just reminding you of what's
already there. It's like you've chosento build up like this callousness around your
soul of like tapping into what life'sreally about and let it passed you by,
and you know, just learning tofind that presence when you can.
Um, That's kind of what I'velearned or what I've took from it is

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just you know, enjoy life whileit's here and make the most of it.
Wow, brother, y'all hear that? Guys, that's wisdom. That's
years and years of searching and reallylooking for something. I wanted to share
a post that you had, brotheron you had posted a picture of yourself.
We'll get to your Jordan. I'mnot cutting you off, No,
I just want to dude, man, I can totally vibe with everything you

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were saying and exactly I feel likemost there's like two kinds of people in
the world. The people who wantto question why and why and why,
Like, like that's the thing thatpeople when you're born in this world,
you want to explore, You wantto figure out how things work. But
like, eventually, as life happens, most parents, like you said,
they'll just tell you because I saidso, at some point society is just
telling you stop asking questions and justconform. And like you said, they

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it does in this trance, andlike you said, I like how you
put it. We built this callousnessaround us, and like life kind of
just becomes monotonymous and we kind ofjust live in this daily routine and we
rarely venture out and seek for things. But yeah, man, the way
that you speak, this is thepeople who I'm after, And this is
the kind of people that I wantto connect with, because, like Timothy

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Leary said, find the others,because there's you can feel alone out there.
Like before I did the podcast,I couldn't talk to anybody about any
of this stuff, and like nowI feel so connected to people like y'all
you are my brother, you aremy sister Georgian, We're all like we're
I don't know how we're collective.We're the people who really want to help

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and change the world. And it'slike, again, like I was speaking
earlier, where does this does thisevil come from? That wants to extinguish
all of this? Like who arethe people that want to kill Martin Luther
King or John F. Kennedy?Like why they're making sense, they're talking
the right things. Why do youfeel you need to go murder them?
And then this is when you getinto yology and religion and all these other
things like that. You said,all you'd skate our mind and just programmers

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to think. I don't know ludicrousthings, but I wanted to share.
You had a picture Andre where youwere smiling, and you said your uncle
realized that you were smiling more andto him you said, I told him
it's amazing what finding and aligning yourlife's purpose can do for your well being.
And when you when I thought aboutthat, I was like, that's

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so true. There's so many peopleout there depressed and sad, and it
really just is because they're not doingwhat they should be doing. And I
think Sam Tripoli is the one thatsaid depression is life telling you, Hey,
you know you're not doing what you'resupposed to be doing, get off
your ass and do it. AndI love that you figuring it out and
that you're on the path and you'reworking toward it. So, Jordan,

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I want to hear about you,and I want I feel like Andre is
the one who kind of really helpedyou open up your horizon or your mind
to these kind of things. Ormaybe I'm wrong. I want to hear
about you. Yeah, having ourfirst podcast about three or so weeks ago
with a beautiful couple, Chase andMimi, to do the Medicine podcast,

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and then we did a round tableafter that, and so I've heard a
lot about you. That was sucha great share from Andre. He is
definitely doing the great work. Myspiritual awakening probably happened around two thousand and
eleven to ten, fell into reallyWhat also opened me up was getting into

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RV remote view, having many connectionsthroughout the world, sharing through Facebook,
through social media, falling into alchemy, becoming a little bit of a hermit
whilst going into the esoteric studies anddefinitely feeling that after the big change that

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came with COVID, a lot ofthe tribe, the Rainbow Warriors, began
to congress together more. It's whenI began to learn more about podcasts and
whistleblowers and people who had been upclose with Fauci and the like. You
know, the horizons are definitely expanding. We're coming together. It's been great

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to meet a couple of people faceto face. A shout out to Mary
and Brandon, who are also inTexas. But really, there's so much
to share. Falling down this rabbithole has notes, it's a fight.
We're continuing to expand, and it'sjust so great to be a part,
to be in the network and toplace our hearts and minds together. And

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I'm very grateful to be here speakwith you. Definitely feel like Skul family
for sure, sure, for sure. Yeah, that's I love that idea
that we probably were a family ina past life or something. But we're
connecting. We reconnected. One thingyou said, Jordan that oh my god,
I had to write it down remoteviewing. Okay, Now, for
the longest I used to think thatI was, I don't know, going

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crazy or I was making stuff up. But for me, sometimes when I
try to nap, like I'll beclosing my eyes, but it seems like
there's like a veil over my eyesand I'm not dreaming, but I'm seeing
something else from somewhere else. NowI don't At first, I thought,
no, dude, you're just makingstuff up. But the more I looked

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and talked about this idea of remoteviewing or just seeing somewhere else, I
started like I started doubting myself.I was like, is this real?
What's going on? Can you tellme what is remote viewing? And how
do you experience it? And ifwhat I'm telling you is that part of
what this is, I haven't reallyprepared to talk about this. It was

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definitely a true ernie that I tookwith a family in Colorado in twenty thirteen.
They used to actually help people whowere in the military to train,
kind of like the manhusteric goats ifyou will. I didn't know that I
had the ability, but yet Idid, but it was all on my

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own. I totally felt a frequencyshift when I first arrived. And they
do everything from alchemy to or amosproducts to buy a residence. So the
mother had led us through the beginningof We went through several steps, and
we've done it several times since I'vemet with them a few times, and

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I just fell straight into it,and I could go through the steps in
the process after we continue forth alittle bit if you'd want to dive deeper
or do another sharing or a podcastto about it. But we went into
the past, and there were certainsteps to get there, and which is

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also very poignant when I hear aboutthe third door, which is also mentioned
in alchemy. That was a partof the process. And we've gone into
remote future timelines, and this isreally what the Shamans were doing when they
were navigating in the mountains. Theywould always be like ten to thirty seconds

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or minutes in front of the Spaniardsor whoever were following them with using keyholes
or whatnot, and they were ableto transcend time and space in that way.
And we also operate in that waywith deja vu in a way.
But another thing shout out to mydoctor, my acupuncturist as well as he

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thinks that dreams are also seeing thefuture and then bringing it here, which
I can attest to having vision throughdreams and working through the process like the
Youngian theory of that and the Goldenbeetle as well. Having things like that
come into life is it's just morethan what we were. It's going back

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to the child childlike state. Butyeah, I've working in groups and doing
it. I have found to bevery powerful and I love to speak about
it. I love to talk topeople who have also had journeys like that.

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And when you have not had thatwith another person or they've have been
attested to having that experience, youdoubt yourself. You question did this really
happen. I've had other apparitions andspiritual awakenings and things of this nature which
I would doubt if there was notsomeone to say, yes, this really
did happen. Um, you werethere. And it's you know, part

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of just the waking of what realityreally is as us as particles vibrating the
sound and and how we've had thewolf pulled over our eyes and we've been
fluoridated and all these things as well. But um, you know it's in
all marketing, the subliminal stuff.You know, we're taught to be basically

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autistic from over stimilization. We aremeant to have silence and to put our
mind at ease. And when youcan drop it, you know from the
data into the different stakes, youare able to go and and transcend if
you will. And Andre I wantedto bring up something that just came to

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my mind. Was talking about levitationthe other day. I wanted to see
if you wanted to share. Yeah, I think it was Tofur. I
don't know if you know him.Um, he's done shows with like Chance
Garton uh from in reverse podcast.Um does some work with the Owen Benjamin,

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but phenomenal dude. He was talkingabout when he was meditating I think
in Thailand or um, I forgetwhere, but it was with some monks
and he opened his eyes like inthe middle of the meditation he saw a
monk levitating in front of him andhe said, like the monks could never

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meditate. Um, like when theywere trying to meditate, like what's someone,
it was like, let me recordyou levitate. They couldn't do it
because they were, you know,on the spot, Like they were put
on the spot and the ego isgetting in the way. But like once
they fully let go, surrendered andlike you know, we're just in the
flow, Like that's when they wouldlove ittate, which it makes good points

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sets yea become as light as afeather. I think there's a biblical verse
about that, and that's what Iwas talking about earlier when I was talking
about the callousness on our soul,because like we just have like you know,
whether it's bad memories or bad experiences, like all these things that pile

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up throughout life and they just likecall us over and like it's like baggage.
We can't let go of that,like is stuck to us. And
somehow, some way we just needa reset, like we need a root
reboot on our operating system so wecan see clearly again and like see with
the eyes of a child and likecome back to that childlike innocence where we

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can just play and like, uh, yeah, we still have to work,
you know, chop wood, carrywater. But at the end of
the day, like are you andare you enjoying it while you're doing it?
You know, like are you being? Are you bringing your being in
to the doing? You know,like just having that sense of like I'm
just grateful to be here, I'mjust happy to be alive. Like every

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day it's a fucking blessing and amiracle. Like you know, anything could
happen to you at any given time, Like you could die of all all
the million ways you could die,you know, cancer, getting hit by
a car, whatever, um,you know, just be grateful to be
here. Life is too short notto be Like why would be like a

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miserable asshole? You know, likewhat what is the point? Yeah?
Man, guys, I love talkingya. This is the people that I
left talking to. It's like whenyou talk to randoms or regular people,
they talk about the most mundane,small, dumb, silly shit that I
don't really want to talk to,and it's like, this is what I
love connecting with people like yo,now, y'all said, are a lot
of things that I really vibe with. And first, Jordan, let me

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ask you. You said you realizeyou had this ability like when I was
I feel I don't like telling peoplethese things because I know that they're looking
at me like I'm crazy. Itmakes me feel vulnerable to look yeah.
Yeah. So for the longest I'venever talked to anything about that, to
anyone except for the podcasters, becausestrangely, these are the people who have
seen or heard of these special abilitiesthat people have, and I believe you're

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like you said with Andre, Ilove how you said, we've been have
this candlessness over us and like Ibelieve, we all have special abilities.
We can see the future, prophesizedthrough dreams, levitate. But like you
said, when you really want toinvestigate these things and put it in a
laboratory setting, you can't really showthem they have they have with children,
they who have been able to seethings with their eyes closed, good drama

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pictures. Yeah, it can bedocumented. So how did you realize,
though, Jordan, that you hadthis ability? How do you? How
does it really? The confirmation forme was the group setting that I was
in in twenty thirteen and the processof the steps that walk through and coming
out of it. She said,okay, who wants to speak first?

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And she was leading it and therewas three others and four including me,
and I was nervous, of course, and didn't It was my first time,
first time meeting them. We wentand dropped into this that evening we
did a Mayan day Lord ceremony forthe Spring equinox and did the view of

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the remote viewing and so each wentaround and when I went out from where
I was to view. I wentthrough three different settings and I was flying
above it, and so they spokeof each one and I said, wow,
you know that is exactly what Iwas seeing and I was flying over.

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They were like, yeah, ofcourse. And there was another confirmation
that came after that, and itwas clear and evident that we had done
this before from what she had said, and then we continue to do that
together and it's been very powerful.Uh. That's when it was really confirmed

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to me I always had abilities.Psychic abilities runs in the maternal line of
my family um parabuoyancy, which issupposed to really move through the maternal line
or claires if you will. Butother people, of course can adapt and

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tap into the innate ability which eachperson can. But I do think that
some people have the proclivity to havethe veil a little bit pulled back through
whatever they've been through on their souljourney through the eons, if you will,
um, and what we're coming hereto do right now, and that

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we can all tap into this andkid then menuster at goats. I don't
know if you've seen that as aclassic, but it, uh, it's
definitely something that has been documented.Um, you know, I still have.
I've told a few people. Atfirst, it was like only one

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or two you know, forbid thisgets out my family and my children,
which they do already know some ofthis, you know, my mother and
my children, but UM, Idefinitely had to have that. Yes,
that did really happen kind of thing. And there were some other events that
happened outside of the remote viewing.UM when I was there on the property

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that blew me away, and therehad been hundreds of people out there,
and the residence that I had therewas definitely, uh, as they said,
the most powerful, like a soulconnection. So I was drawn there,
um, not just for that,but to connect with the family.
And um, they're very dear tomy heart and I'd love to talk about

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them some more. They are ratherprivate. But the experience that I have
had, I've had to go beyondthe boundary of vulnerability of knowing that I'm
helping somebody out there as well,dropping my ego and what if somebody thinks
that I'm a crazy or elude.I've been called you know, all of

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these things before and damaging in harmfulways. But it's also helped to build
me and to throw, you know, kindling on the fire of continuing carrying
my torch for others who need that. And I've needed that women and men
as well who have said stand inyour power and share your story, which

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is beautiful thing to do now comingout of my permit's cave to my calib
the mountain, if you will.But really putting my voice on the air
like this is huge for me.Andre At my first opening podcast, you
know are you're nervous and we caughtit on video. I said, we're

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not publishing the video. I waswiggling around dancing in my chair. Uh.
Yeah, it's great. I wouldnot trade it. I mean,
these are the things that embers onmy soul I know that I will carry
forth to is connecting with those umI'm putting our hearts and hearts and minds
together and we're on the soul journeytogether and we're just you know, walking

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each other home if you will.I love it. I love it.
No, Okay, So you said, this is my experience, and this
is what I think because I alwayswonder, Okay, people have these abilities,
but how do you train or howdo you expand them? How do
you harness that power where do youlearn? So even what I want to
ask you is how does it looklike? Because for when I experienced this,

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what I think is remote view.When it's I'll be laying down,
I'm trying to sleep, I'll bethinking of nothing, but all of a
sudden, it feels like I'm seeingthrough my third eye, like when you're
on a psychedelic trip. You knowhow you see things in your mind.
That's how it looks like. I'mseeing it through that. Yeah, totally.
But it looks like you know whenpeople go to church, the women
they put this byo over their hair. Yeah, it looks like look it

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does. It has that that frequencyshift, it has like there's a soft
It's so subtle and it can comeso fast, and then you question where
you know you can get further intoit. And then sometimes when you see
the scene, if it was justseen into the future, whatever, what

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have what have you? Um?It's wow, It's it pops open for
you. And actual projection and thingslike that as well sometimes go hand in
hand. But is it like fleeing? Because in my head, when I
really try to see it like vanishes. But when I let go and not
focus, it's like it comes clear. Oh yeah, you're definitely. It's

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like a muscle up. You know, it's like a The more you tap
into it, and sometimes and tryto control it, you can get stuck
in fabric of picking those pieces upright. So how do you train going
back to it? And this Idon't know because I never went through training.
UM. I just sometimes I canif I'm really really thinking about something

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I will have that comes into adream, meeting other people in situations,
but in just awaken vision. Youknow, there's steps that I take,
counting back from ten and walking througha corridor after some otherness. I probably

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should start from the beginning. UM, but it it's and we can talk
more on one about this. Uhyeah, I definitely want to. I
just have never been through a courseof training outside of this woman, this
special soul leading me through UM andthe and the group through the steps that

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UM initially right there after you closedthe door, you're in that space and
it takes over. And I wasonly confirmed because it was so faint,
so subtle when we came out andthen they were sharing with me, you
know, I said, I showedyou this and this is what happened,

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and it's like wow, okay,um, it's like hypnotizing your soul.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah yeah. It's so hard to talk
about these things because it's like wedon't have the language and we've been even
the English language and so devoided ofactual meaning. So like exactly, and
I'm sorry too because I hadn't reallyprepared, I mean, how do because

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it's all freeflowing. But it issomething that I once getting comfortable and in
loosen you know, conversation, Iwill go into little parts of it with
somebody that of course I'm feeling justnaturally very comfortable with you. Knowing that
I was sharing this also with othersis empowering for me. But I really

(33:32):
want to expand I want to joinwith other people who want to share in
that it does. It works whenit were physically together. I have found
that it's kind of like a battery, if you will, when you have
more and going through the steps inthe physical locations man together, that stuffs

(33:57):
fascinating. Like I wish there wereschools were they people can figure out whether
you're yeah, I'm sure, likethat's what's been taken from us, right,
Well, then who said in theBible like we're two or more gathering.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah,third thing that arises when you have
two or more together, right,dang man. See that's that mysticism,

(34:22):
that occultish kind of things that we'vebeen This has been taken away from us,
but we're kind of early finding thepieces and trying to put the puzzle
together. And that's why I lovetalking to y'all. Now, Andrea,
when did you work, sorry,when did you start your podcast? Or
how did you okay? So well? To be honest, ever since Facebook

(34:43):
came out, I would like postpoems or just things to get people to
think. While everyone was posting picturesof their food or you know, where
they're at, I wanted to putout I wanted to put ideas out there
and just get people to think.And then so throughout I guess my whole
childhood and growing up, I wasalways drawn into like the mysterious, the

(35:05):
ghost, the aliens, the paranormal, the things people can't really describe,
and so I would always run tothat part of the library. And then
I got the Internet. I startedlooking into Egyptian mythology, Hinduism and how
all these people have these crazy andwild ideas all over the world. And
then I just for the longest Iwanted to talk to people about this,

(35:25):
and I couldn't. I never foundpeople to connect. And then eventually,
I guess around five years ago,I started really going into Instagram, and
I was seeing that there was actuallypeople, you know, posting the things
that y'all post, like memes orjust getting people to think. I was
like, oh shit, there's awhole there's a whole niche here where people

(35:46):
are like really trying to learn andexpand. And I always felt like I
knew a lot of these things.I had research, I had put in
a lot of time. I thinkI woke up when I was eight years
old, you know, I wouldlay in bed question everything, like Andre,
why, why? Why? Andaround Christmas one time I was like,
how does one fat guy go allaround the world and one night with

(36:08):
one bag and do all this shit? Right? So ever since then,
from there I extrapolated that from mythought and I thought about the tooth fairy,
you know, all these things thatpeople you know, they don't see
but they tell you. And sofrom there it just went to politics and
to just question and trying to breakdown and understand everything. And so it

(36:30):
was right around COVID. I guessthat's the beautiful thing about COVID. It
got a lot of us to likeget out of our comfort zone and be
like, Okay, no, I'mgonna do something. I need to find
the others. I have to.I mean, I just can't sit here
anymore alone. And I guess fromthere, I had this one two good
friends, Chris and Andrew. Theywould come to my house and we would
start talking about these things like apodcast sort of, but we weren't recording,

(36:53):
and so I said, man,I should start recording these and just
I don't know, just recording.And I have always listened to podcast and
I was like, but who arewe to post? Who are We're just
three guys in a little town,you know whatever. But I was like,
no, I need to put myvoice out there. I need I
need to do this because I feela conviction and like to go back to
the beginning. Andrea, you weretelling me how you had a speech impediment

(37:15):
problem and it's strange and you,Jordan, and you said you were also
a little bit flimsy and anxious whenyou're on your first podcast. But I
think you also posted Andrea a quoteabout Bob Marley. Once you're really paying
attention, everybody everything is trying toteach you something, yea and so.
And then I put in this ideaof the Bible. Moses, you know,

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he had a speech impediment and Godtold him, you're gonna go speak
for me to the Pharaoh. AndMoses was like me, I can't even
talk right, how do you expectme to go and talk to the king.
But it's like, once you pushthrough what you think is the weakness
of yours, it actually becomes apowerful thing because moses voice was the one

(37:58):
who liberated his people. And nowyou're using your voice, which wasn't as
great, you know, at first, but you harnessed it and now you're
using it. And I think that'sthe beautiful thing about humans. We have
what they call weaknesses, but Ithink these are actually strengths if we knew
how to harness them. So Chakrawas that yes, yes, yeah,

(38:20):
yeah. For the for the longesttime, like you know, I was
always told to speak up or youknow, raise your voice like I speak
softly too, or even monotone.You know, yeah, you're when you
read it's boring, I'm like,well, don't listen don't see through people
stuff. Yeah, do it,and they're like, we don't want you
to talk anymore. I you know, you know it's weird hearing yourself talk

(38:45):
the first time, like when youread, listen to a podcast and done
or something. But you get usedto it and you know, it's just
like anything, like it's like learninghow to ride a bike, you know.
Um. Just and I what I'venoticed too was like the shows,
I'm like the most stressed out about, like you know, cramming to prepare
like no other. Like I'm likethe most stressed throughout that conversation because I'm

(39:09):
like trying to force something yes andlike get everything in this hour, hour
and a half whatever. But whenI'm like just like stress free, like
pre flowing, like yeah, let'sbe loose and flow with it and see
where it goes. Like that's that'swhere the magic happens, man. And

(39:29):
I don't think there's any shame inthat. I think we're like brought up
to like be ashamed of that orlike run from that when it's like that's
like literally where creation happens. Itis like in that place of like um,
just the flow, the flow state, you know exactly yeah, like
before we started, Jordan's what wasmentioning, Okay, what's the plan?

(39:52):
What are we going to talk about? And I mentioned that when I when
I first started my podcast, Iwould write everything I was gonna say,
everything I wanted to talk about,and like you said, Andre, it
never came up on the show.It was just me overthinking trying to force
something to happen. But then afterI realized that, I learned, actually,
when you're free flowing and you don't, you're just like in the moment,

(40:12):
in the zone, the flow state, things come out way better.
And that's what kind of makes methink about that whole remote viewing. When
I'm really trying to see, whenI really want something to happen, I'm
forcing it, it won't. Andwhen I'm least thinking about it, and
when I'm like just trying to sleepnot think about anything, that's when the
visions will come. And I'm like, there's this thing about life, like
again where you were talking about,Andre, when you want to do something

(40:35):
like in front of people, likeif you say, oh, I can
shoot these three three pointer basketball groupsfrom here, and you tell people,
okay, come look, and thenyou can't the ego and the stress.
It all kind of youth right.Well, we're just beta driven, like
you know, in all regards,even just some physical reality. But dude,

(40:55):
really quick, don't mean to interrupt. I don't think we're recording.
I'll send you the file. I'llsend you the file. Brother. Oh
okay, you got it. Okay, you can edit that out. I'm
sorry, No, you just makea journey. Were recording because I want
to lose them? Oh, Igot it, I got Have you ever
lost a good conversation? Oh yeah, oh man, it's the worst.
It happened to me once and thenI made sure that never happened again.

(41:19):
Right right, Yeah, it's onlyhappened a couple of times. Okay,
but what were we talking about?The review? Did you forget? Come
on, Jordan, you had it, it'll come back. Um yeah,
I really go ahead. I reallyenjoyed listening to some of your shows,

(41:39):
um in the very beginning when youwere first starting, man Um. It
really reminded me of like my initialthought of like starting a show and like,
you know, talking with all mylike minded buddies that we were always
getting together and having these deep philosophicalconversations and you know, just wondering why

(42:01):
the world's fucked and like trying todefy the answers, and I was like,
guys, we should start a podcast. And then like it wasn't until
after I did ayahuasca and it kindof like reignited this confidence within me of
like you're bigger than you think youare, Like stop selling yourself short.

(42:21):
Like you're fucking unique and powerful andyou're you're this beautiful puzzle piece that fits
into this world perfectly, like exactlyas it should, and like you're meant
to like fulfill that purpose that youwere you were put here to do.
And um, I found my voicethrough that, and um, you know,

(42:43):
just gaining more confidence along the way. You know. Going on Sam
Tripley's spiritual podcast called Zero was veryhumbling and um surreal. Uh. Sam's
a guy definitely look up to anduh just to muedic genius, hilarious,
dude, can't say enough about it. He was very respectful to me every

(43:08):
Joe I've been at and even gaveme a ride back to his hotel the
Hangus. Um, very down toearth dude, and you know, to
see a guy like that, whateveryou would call him. The CD List
celebrity, like still still to bea humble like that, you know,
like speaks volumes to be and he'snot a CND comedian. Bro, he's

(43:30):
up there. It's just he's ignoredbecause he's speaking the truth. Yeah,
that's true, that's true. Imean he has been on Rogue, even
one on Rogan recently, you know. Yeah, but then again you can
see you can tell that Rogan doesn'treally want him on because he doesn't want
to talk about certain things. Yeahname at all, Right, right,

(43:52):
yeah, I know, but yeah, that's the thing. It seems like,
when then when I start thinking about, okay, why did the biggest
people become so big and why dothey I'll talk about certain things and it's
like you gotta learn to read inbetween the lines. Because when Joe Rogan
was first you know, the podcast, he would talk about random, crazy
shit. But now I was like, oh, it was so crazy.
I remember specifically one episode, Ithink it was Eddie Bravo. He kept

(44:15):
trying to bring on the flatter theoryand Joe was like trying to squirt around
it, and you could tell hewas uncomfortable, and I was like,
dude, dude, he knows something. He knows and like, I don't
know. Man, I think whenyou get to that level, you have
a master and you can't say youcan't say everything that you want to say,
and you're controlled. And that's whypart of the reason that I never

(44:36):
showed my face is I want tobe able to just say anything I don't
want. No. I think hetells the line and he knows where his
limitations are, and he knows wherehe can't go on conversation, so he
just, you know, weaves aroundthose areas, which I mean, you
know, it's it's tough to knowwhat you would do in that situation,
like if you were in his shoesand like your family was threatened or whatever,

(45:00):
and you know, how could youturn that down when you know your
family's got to eat. But atthe same time, it's like to have
a moral backbone always worth more tome. So it's it's hard to know
all the you know, little detailsthat led up to you know, Joe
becoming what he is. But um, I do respect him in the sense

(45:21):
of like being a trailblazer in podcastingto like really pave the way for guys
like us, you know, Like, um, I know, Joe definitely
had a big impact on me earlyon when I was first learning about podcasts
and what was out there, andI fell in love with Deep Inside the
rabbit Hole, which was a podcastwith Tim ross Child. He's not related,

(45:45):
he's actually adopted. He's not relatingto the actual ross Child's sorry.
It was called Deep Inside the rabbitHole, and it had Dave Wyats,
who's like huge in the conspiracy communitynow for the Earth Guy, and Mike
Cannon, who was a comedian skeptic. So you had like Tim who was

(46:07):
the spiritual dude. Mike was likethe skeptic, funny comedian, and then
Dave was the hardcore conspiracy theorist.So you had this like dynamic that was
like unbeatable and it was amazing tolisten to. And it's it's sad they're
no longer doing it, but youknow, I've gone on to have both

(46:27):
Dave and Tim on my show andthat was very humbling man to like,
you know, no, that's whereit started for you, Like that was
the first show you listened to,and now you're like sitting down and talking
to him, like I text himand every once in a while and check
in with him, like we're buddiesnow, like it's it's fucking surreal.
Man. Life is a fucking tripand it is exactly what you make it.

(46:52):
Like if you want to sit hereand drag your heels and fucking play
the victim, like my life sucksand it's always gonna it's never gonna get
better, Like it won't because likethat is how strong we are, like
our beliefs and like you know whatwe choose to tap into and like how
we choose to hold our energy,you know, and where we give it

(47:15):
and you know how we lose itin certain ways and manage it. You
know, it's all about balance,man, and like that is the fine
line. We walk as humans everyday doing the great work. You know,
it's just trying to find balance.You know. I love that.
But we could do right now whenyou were saying it's you could be the
victim and tality, it's so trueand you create the life that you want.

(47:37):
I have this guy at my job, and poor guy, he's always
complaining, always talking shit about people. You know, everything's always going wrong,
and his life it is. Imean he's overweight, he's always getting
flats hired. It's like, dude, just change your perspective and I promise
you your life will change. Butit's like some people already set in their
ways and they're so hard hited thatit literally would take a much from trip

(48:00):
for them to actually like open theireyes or be like, wow, man,
maybe the things that I was doingare not the correct things. But
it's like I listened to I don'tknow if you know Mark pops Passio.
He's a great like. I lovehow he speaks. He breaks down everything
to the simplest terms. And thething that fascinated me about him is he
said, we don't need any newtechnology to change the world. We don't

(48:21):
need a whole new radical movement.We have everything now. The only thing
that people have to be willing todo is be uncomfortable when and that reminded
me of what you were talking about. Rogan. Yeah, Rogan's now in
this place and the lofty chair.He's great, but like you said,
to have a moral backbone and belike, no, actually, I can't
do this, you know, becauseyou're keeping You're making me censor myself.

(48:43):
And that's what people that's the wholeproblem with this issue. People are not
willing to be uncomfortable. People willrather do a job that they know is
hurting others because they want to eat, instead of being like, no,
I guess I'll quit and find anotherjob and be uncomfortable for a while,
but do the right thing. Andit's like exactly that, how do we
get people to not buy the thingsthat they're telling us to buy that are

(49:04):
poisons and we're perpetuating these these corporationsthat are poising the whole world? And
it's like, okay, it's gonnatake. If you really want to change
the world, you're gonna have togo through hell essentially, like literally speak
up and say, okay, thesecorporations are bad. Be willing to have
the finger pointed at you, bewilling to go to jail and even die.
But it's like you said, we'vebeen so callous now that people want

(49:27):
to maintain what they have and theydon't want to be uncomfortable. Yeah,
I mean you just see the gapgrow more and more, like the you
know, the classes gap of likethe rich and the poor, and you
know there's all these ways we're divided. But like you know, after watching
I watched The Plandemic part three theother night, the Great Awakening, which

(49:52):
was different than the rest of them. Like it was not really about COVID.
It was like what was what wasit that brock COVID to the surface,
and like what is like behind COVIDand what this experiment was, you
know, and like the social creditscore system. You know, we got

(50:12):
over in China and like, um, you know, just making people hate
their neighbor in any way you can. And that's the first thing you do
if you want to take a nationover, is you divide them. It's
like, we're quite be the UnitedStates, which is also apparently corporation,
allegedly as defined by a lot ofpeople in the sovereign movement, which I've

(50:38):
had a lot of those guys onI've I'm having another one on in the
future. Uh, he's a statenational. He doesn't like that term sovereign.
I forget his name, Brandon umnot thinking of his last Brandon Williams.
But dude, he's he's literally teachingpeople at school on like how to

(51:00):
be free in the freest way youcan imagine, and you know, coming
to realize, like you know alot of people in this community would know,
like you know, our birth certificateis essentially and social Security number is
essentially a bond on the stock marketthat's created, you know, the moment
we're born and our parents signed thatpaperwork, like they signed us away.

(51:22):
And you know, the things he'sdoing are just incredible and like you wouldn't
imagine, and we're all being connedon such a level that is unfathomable.
And I think that's why it's sohard for the people that have been blinded
to all this is because you know, imagine, like what what it would

(51:42):
do to their world around them,Like it would it would fall before their
eyes, that like their whole identity, like everything they've known to be true,
And like I think for some peopleit's too much. And you know,
it's kind of like psychedelics. Likepeople say psychedelics aren't for everyone.
You know, it's kind of thesame thing. Like a lot of people
aren't ready to look in the mirrorand see what they don't want to see

(52:05):
because that would that would that wouldmake them realize that, oh shit,
Like I'm a part of this story, and like I have to play my
part, and like I have tobe responsible for like making changes within myself
to be a better human and notto just like fucking piss on other people
that are have less than me andthings like this. You know, it's

(52:27):
like primitive nature man like to justlike be a survivalist in the sense of
like I'm better than this other personwhen we're all the fucking same dude,
Like we all got different gifts andweaknesses, like I said earlier, But
I think that's the beauty of itis, Like that's what makes us unique.
Is like if we were all thesame, what would be the fucking

(52:50):
point if we already do all theanswers, what would be the point to
live it? You know, likeit all just comes back to, like
what are we doing every day?Like, um, you know, consistently
take a step forward and consistently betterourselves and not trip and shame ourselves when
we fall or like when we getstuck in a rut, because you know,

(53:14):
I think we're all guilty of it. You were talking early on about
how you have you've went through somerough patches and you know, you kind
of get stuck in the rabbit holeand get black pilled and stuff like that
where there's like no hope, youknow, you feel like no one's waken
up. And then there's other timeswhere it feels like the whole world's waken
up every day. And I thinkthat's that's where the balanced part comes in,

(53:38):
dude. Is like it's it's learningeven in the suffering, even in
the worst of your days, liketo still remember like this is temporary and
this is this is only here aslong as it wants to be here and
as long as you want it tobe here, and give power to it,
give your energy to it. Liketake a moment to step back from

(53:59):
it. Three you know, meditate, get grounded again, put your feet
in the earth, and you know, come back to center, because you
know, it's it's one thing tohave a bad day, but if that
turns into a bad week or badmonths, bad years, you know,
some people get stuck in that rutand they never see out of it because

(54:20):
they never just took that step backthey needed, you know. And it's
like we see all these health problemsall around us, but look at stressed
dude. Stress is like the biggestcause of disease, like just being stressed
out, you know, And whatis disease Just not being at ease,
like being in resistance to the flowof life and like letting life get you

(54:40):
down, whether it's bills or financesor whatever. Like there's so many stressors
all around us. But like ifwe can learn to like ride those waves
with like integrity and like fragility andvulnerability and just like hold ourselves when we

(55:01):
need to be held most and reachout to someone, you know, when
we need someone to talk to it, and like the find the others,
like you said, that share thesame ideals, like the same moral backbones,
like you want to see in otherpeople. And you know, as
a tribe, as you gather thenumbers, like it just continues to grow

(55:22):
more and more, and it's likeyou feed off each other for the for
positive intentions and ways of moving forward, Like you're just building more and more
into better humans, which turns intoa better world outside of us. If
we can just look inside and youknow, turn our light on. Amen,

(55:45):
bro, they see people don't speaklike that anymore. And it's kind
of said that we have to createthe space of a podcast to kind of
be able to talk about these seeminglycorny things. But like you said,
these are the foundations of what itmeans to be a true human. And
we, like you said, we'vebeen calicized to just talk done whether small
talk, the dumbest shit that doesn'treally matter, and that's the podcast community

(56:07):
is great, brother. And likewhen you were saying they're trying to divide
us, and the way you speakit reminded me. I've been on this
Bobby Kennedy stick and I've been watchinga bunch of this stuff. And here
I'm gonna play this video. Thisis a speech he did because you were
talking also about you could be ina negative mentality. He gives a speech
right after Martin Luther King was killedand the whole nation was like ready to

(56:29):
fucking start writing, but he comesout and gives this speech. You never
hear politicians speak like this other thanRFK. Now again, we just talked
about before in the beginning. Idon't really trust politicians. They all say
nice things and then they turn theirback. Yeah, exactly. But the
way that these people speak, Idon't know. It just it really talks
to my heart. So I'm gonnaplay this video and then I want to

(56:52):
hear what y'all have to take,and then we'll close the show. Okay,
guys, So this is a speechby Bobby Kennedy on April fourth,
nineteen. Checked the shit out.I think news for all of you.

(57:15):
He gave the speech on the backof a truck. He just he improvised
it. All. This was justlittle notes that he took on the way
there, and this is really comingfrom his heart. I have some very
sad news for all of you,and I think sad news for all of
our fellow citizens and people who lovepeace all over the world. And that

(57:37):
is that Martin Luther King was shotand was killed tonight Memphis. Then Martin
Luther King dedicated his life to loveand to justice between fellow human beings.
He died and the cause of thateffort. In this difficult day, and

(58:04):
it's a difficult time for the UnitedStates, it's perhaps well to us and
what kind of a nation we areand what direction we want to move in.
For those of you who are black, considering the evidence evidently is that
they were white people who are responsible. You can be filled with bitterness and

(58:30):
with hatred and a desire for revenge. We can move in that direction as
a country and greater polarization black peopleamongst blacks and white amongst whites, filled
with hatred toward one another. Wecan make an effort as Martin Luther King

(58:52):
did to understand and to comprehend andreplace that violence, that stain of bloodshed
that has spread across our land,with an effort to understand, compassion and

(59:13):
love for those of you who areblack and are attempted to fill with be
filled with hatred and distrust of thea justice of such an act against all
white people. I would only saythat I can also feel in my own

(59:35):
heart the same kind of feeling.I had a member of my family killed,
but he was killed by a whiteman. But we have to make
an effort in the United States.We have to make an effort to understand,
to get beyond or go beyond theseall the difficult times. A favorite

(59:57):
poem, my favorite poet was Escalus. He once wrote, even in our
sleep, pain which cannot forget polesdrop by dropping upon the heart, until
in our own day, despair againstour will come to wisdom through the awful

(01:00:23):
grace of God. What we needin the United States is not division.
What we need in the United Statesis not hatred. What we need in
the United States is not violence andlawlessness, but is love and wisdom and
compassion toward one another, feeling ofjustice toward those who still suffer within our

(01:00:49):
country, whether they be white orwhether they be black. We can do
well in this country. We willhave difficult times. We've had difficult times

(01:01:09):
in the past, but we willwe will have difficult times in the future.
It is not the end of violence, it is not the end of
lawlessness, and is not the endof disorder. But the vasque majority of
white people and the vasque majority ofblack people in this country we want to
live together. We want to improvethe quality of our life and want justice

(01:01:35):
for all human beings that abide inour land with and what dedicate ourselves to,
what the Greeks rode so many yearsago, detain the savageness of man
and make gentle the life of thisworld that has dedicated ourselves to that,

(01:02:00):
Let's say, for our country andfor our people, thank you very much.
Now, can you imagine Biden giventhat speech? Dude, It's like,
what has happened to this country?It's so sad. It makes me
cry. Like literally, people don'ttalk like that from the heart and really

(01:02:21):
like really care and matter. There'sjust nothing but prostitutes and politics. Now,
it's it's sad. It's dude,it's it's so surreal. You played
that, because like I've always hada picture of Bobby given a woman a
hug at one of his rallies,uh in my room like for years.
Wow, Like I always knew moreabout JFK. Like Bobby's the lesser known

(01:02:43):
brother, but like that really likeignited that for me of like, oh,
here's work. Why you have it? Like is this moment right now?
Dude? Go check out. I'vebeen listening to a bunch of his
stuff. There's this great documentary.I'm gonna send it to you, And
it's like, man, he wasmurdered. He was going to be the
president, like everybody loved him.He could have brought this country together.
But again, like I say,when you hear that, who's like,

(01:03:04):
fuck that guy who says that?After hearing a speech like that, Who's
like, I'm gonna kill that guy? Like people have to remember that there's
evil in the world, that there'sactually a force out there trying to divide
and conquer us, and it's evidentyou can just see it. Who murders
these great guys? Like I'm notsaying anyone's an idol, men are men.
We all can fail. But it'slike when there's good ideas out there.

(01:03:25):
What is there's a pressing force that'strying to diminish him and this is
what And again when we have togo back to God or to spirituality,
that's the way you understand that,this is why the world is the way
it is. And there's a guyexactly. I love that. Brother.
All the worst humans are brothers andsisters as shitty as that. It is,

(01:03:47):
like we still have to, youknow, see ourselves in them and
like hope for the best for them, hope you know, ten lifetimes from
now they fucking get it right.But yeah, what what God do you
work? Exactly? Exactly? Well, guys, this was great. I
can definitely I want to do onewith you Jordan about like asked like seeing

(01:04:11):
things because it sounds crazy and Idon't like talking about it, but I
have to because I feel that thereis something to it. People didn't just
make this stuff up. You hearabout this type of ability throughout the whole
world. You know, the yogisgo ahead, connect with you through message
and said something up, Yeah,let's do it. I'm done. I'm
done. Yeah, I love that. Thanks so much for having us long.

(01:04:33):
Thank you Andrey like any time andYou're always welcome on essentially sweat with
us. Tonight we're going to goand do Sweat Lodge. Well, we'll
take you with us and say prayersand look forwards next time. That's awesome.
I love you guys, guys.Andre I didn't have you repeat your

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story. I've heard you repeat yourtrip story. It's a great story,
y'all. Guys, please go checkout his podcasts Ascension of the Chessman.
His first couple of episodes, hebreaks down how he kind of woke up
through psychedelics and his pastor who whowas willing to lend an open ear and
actually talk about things that normal pastorswant to talk about. It's a great
story, guys. I totally buywith it, and I feel the same.

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It's like, you don't need psychedelicsto wake you up, but they're
a great tool. They really help. They let you, Yeah, they
let you see the bullshit inside ofyou. And I love you guys.
I hope y'all keep doing what youare doing. And I'm glad I found
you all. We're finding the otherstogether. And if y'all could share just
one tip for the humans, forthe people on this earth, if you

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could say something. What would yousay, Andre and Jordan, I would
say, wake up grateful now thatwhen you're having a bad day, there's
a brighter sun rise in tomorrow.And keep putting one foot forward in front
of the other and help your brothersand sisters. We're all walking each other
home. I agree, you know, with the same essence, you're doing

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a great job. The purification processis part of our healing. Suffering creates
wisdom. You know. Bobby reallysold me on that quote, with the
wisdom that drops onto our heart.I just had this image of the pelican
with the mother feeding from her breasther young ones, which is my last

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name, Stuart was being emblem forthe Stuart monarch in Scotland, and the
peacock also being part of the resurrectionor dying upon the cross and connecting to
our true nature, which is partof walking that red road, picking up

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our cross, the fewell and unitingwith the full circle of all races and
carrying us forward outside of our matrixbound life in carbon form, and just
continuing to do the work. Don'tgive up. There's always a brighter day
ahead. It's all for your greaterpurpose, and don't hesitate to reach out.

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There's power and vulnerability. Weakness issomething that I think is a trite
statement when you are open to evenadmitting you know, I need some help,
I need network. We're built likethat as humans and we're connected in
spirit. So I'm just very gratefulto be vulnerable and to be here.

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I love it. Thank you guys. Last question, andre Um, you
were talking about how we go throughcycles, or mainly I was talking about
how I'll be full of hope andthen I'll be sad. I'm asking,
I'm sure maybe have you ever haddo you ever have that syndrome? Like?
What am I doing? Do Ireally needed? What do you do
to navigate through that? You know, it's funny you brought up that post

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because I've eaten a lot of humblepie over the last year or two.
Like it's it's been a roller coaster, man. There's been a lot of
ups and downs, and I've hadto, you know, accept things I
didn't want to um, knowing thatit's going to get better as the journey
goes along. But this is justpart of the journey. It's it's a

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rough patch to teach me the thingsI needed to learn in regards to like
at that time I was, Iwas, you know, doing what I
wanted to do working in the cannabisindustry, Like, um, sharing my
passions about this plant I had wantedto share about for so long, and
like I just wanted to share thegood news with people, and like seeing

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people get off opioids and stuff likethat with you know, CBD gummies was
really cool. But there was justsome stuff at the top at that job
that I didn't say well with andI just couldn't do it anymore. As
passionate as I was about it,my mental health was being affected just based

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on some stuff within the environment Iwas working in, and so I had
to leave that job and go backto a job I had had before as
a landscaper, and you know,being back outside again, getting my hands
on the dirt, that really helpedto just kind of reset my mindset.
Although I know, like this isonly temporary and I'm going to build back,

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but like to you know, feellike you took a step back in
your career, I felt like Ihad failed or I had fallen short,
and you know, I wanted itto work out so bad, but I
really had to take into account,like how my mental health was like you
know at the brink, you know, and UM that was that was humbling

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too. UM. You know,still know that I still have my purpose.
I still have this podcast. Idon't have as much time as I
used to, um to put intothe podcast, which has been hard,
but I know that I'm going tocreate more ways to do that in the
future and do the best I canuntil then. UM. You know,

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it's it's hard to, um,you know, put all your time and
energy into a podcast when you workmultiple jobs and you know, still have
bills to still have bills to pay, um, if you're not getting much
to revenue from a podcast, andyou know, I don't do it for
the money, but I would loveto only do the podcast and you know,

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be able to survive off that.But UM, you know, it's
it's not that easy. But I'vemet many who have and I know it's
possible. UM. And I knowthe more I keep remembering my why,
like why am I doing this everyday? Like why am I doing it

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when it's not making any money?Like I've done almost two hundred episodes.
I mean that's that's a lot oftime. And actually but I enjoy every
minute of it. Man, likeyou said, people, Yeah, it's
just me creative minds and um,you know, just you know, speak
words salad like it's it's beautiful man, to just like share new ideas and

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like, uh, learn new thingsfrom other people and just evolve more as
you um do the podcast because youknow, like just to look back at
where you started and um, youknow, as you progress and you go
down the episodes to the present likeyou can, you can see your evolution

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in real time. And it's abeautiful thing. Brothers. So I'm grateful
every day to you know, havea voice behind a microphone and share it
with the world and help someone gainsomething from it. Wow, you gave
me a really good insight just then, because I guess right now, I
just noticed that when I do feellike that, it is because, like
you said, I haven't put myhands in the soil. I haven't really

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been in nature, really really beengrateful for what I'm doing. I'm just
kind of like in that slump andlike you said, we got to go
through resets every once in a while, but it can be hard. But
I guess that's like you said,life is a trip. Yeah, I
love it. Brother. We're gonnareconnect again. Guys, please please go
check out his podcast great. Hehas great episodes. He has one on

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Lucid Dreaming. That one really wasbadass. I used to do that as
a kid. Just different topics thatwrite up our alley guys and Jordan,
do you have a page for yourown on Instagram? I do have just
a personal cage on Pride. Okay, okay, but I am connected through
the podcast. I'm very grateful forAndre bringing me into that. Definitely was

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a verdant and for in that respect. Um, he is really doing the
work. This guy really opens peopleup and helps them to feel comfortable.
Every conversation is just flowing. Heis a connect connector. Um. He
is a bridger and is trying tohelp the community too with UM. If

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you want to talk a little bitabout shortly about the podcast, community or
the truth or conspiracy, you knowit's not it's tainted that way community,
UM, and the people who arealso doing that in life coaching and what
has a divide where one or theother is being hated on quote unquote.

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UM. So he's really done alot of movement there. I can speak
for myself, and that's part ofwhy he wanted to also start podcasts and
net was to help everybody to worktogether. Yeah, I mean it was.
The initial goal is just you know, seeing the divide within the truth

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community, but also seeing the dividewithin spiritual circles and ayahuasca ceremonies and stuff
like this, and I wanted tofind the commonalities between them and build a
bridge between those communities because I sawthere was a lot to gain from each
other on opposing sides. And Ithink the same can be said in regards

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to religion, politics, any ofthis stuff, all the things you're told
you can't talk about. I thinkthere is ways to talk about it.
We're just we have to get outof our comfort zones and some aren't ready
to do that yet. And that'sokay. That's where people like us trailblazers
come in to play. And thesame for medicine circles to the beyond a
there is I begain philocybin even likebreathworks or breath works, other vision quests,

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walking meditation retreat. Right, there'sso much good sundance, which are
all tools to help you right right, You like Aubrey Marcus with the being
in the dark for several days oh, he said his visions in the Darkness

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Retreat were more profoundations for young boyor boys the right right. An interesting
thing. You might want to checkout this documentary. It's called Inner Worlds
Outer Worlds. Oh, yes,that's such a good one. Thank you
for bringing that up. I loveit. Well. Essentially, what they
say there is that what the mysticswill go into case for days and what

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this does. It kind of killsyour circadian cycle because you don't see lights,
so your circadian cycle kind of goesoff of whack and you enter these
profound mystical realm light released right right, all right, yeah, man,
there's so many tools and things wecan do. Is just we gotta teach
the people. There's so many people, like you said, they've been calicized
by media and society that we justgot to spread the news. Brother,

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And thank you. You guys filledme with hope again today. I always
say when I have these talks,I feel like I went to church and
right, you know what, reallyit's such a good um. This talk
has been so rewarding. I'm sograteful to be here. A man,
I'm gonna send y'all the file.I'll send y'all the file so y'all can

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post it and we'll do it againfor sure. Guys. I love y'all,
and I hope you'll have a greatday week, month, and we'll
do this again sometime. So didyou already stop the record? No,
I'm still recording. I'll let youknow. I'll let you know what I'm
recording. But okay, guys,that was Andre and Jordan of Ascension of
the Chessman. Beautiful, beautiful people. Go check out His instagram is dre

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live for today. I'm gonna haveit on the show notes. I also
have his podcasting on there. Pleasecheck it out. Guys, stop consuming
the media that they're forcing down yourthroat and go out of your own way
and find the media that's going tohelp you grow. So thank you,
guys, and remember know thyself,improve thyself, find the others, and
then you'll know what to do.Peace.