April 14, 2024 • 50 mins
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Selective attention, the podcast of VidaFernández, teacher, content creator and naná
good morning, good afternoon or goodevening. Be the moment you' re
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there. We welcome you to thepodcast selective attention. Chapter number seven of
the fourth season, no more andno less and an entire world that we
had been unable to record life,the life that is thus less bad that
we have events like the second edoday of the virtual cloister and the educational
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talks to return to the arena.And today we have a special episode of
those in which I do not summarizeor summarize, of those in which I
play because the occasion deserves it.Today I' m going to tell you
everything I lived in the first personon the second edu day of the educational
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talks and the virtual cloister, thatgreat event organized by you know and if
you don' t know, hereyou are to listen to it ingrid mosquito
people. But let' s startat the beginning of the times, as
Manolito Gafotas would say that I willtell you from that moment, that for
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me began this event that was heldlast Saturday, April 6 in Kaishaforum,
Madrid, as I already told inhis day in the review that I made
of the first edu day. Allthis begins a twenty- fifth of August
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of two thousand and twenty- twoand in which ingrid Mosquera gathers a number
of people to create the first organizinggroup of the edu day. And who
' s a man in the mosquitocry if you don' t know her
at this point and you' rea follower of this podcast, we'
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re going badly and often and I' m talking to you on this podcast
of my dearest Ingrid. Ingrid mosquitoagent. He is a university teacher in
the areas of didactics and educational technology, in the grades of early childhood education
and primary education, as well asin the master' s degree of secondary
education and in the degree of pedagogy. In addition, she is a writer
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and I recommend that you read herbook informal learning on Twitter networks and educational
talks, as well as a researcherspecializing in informal learning, online education and
educational technology. It develops the multiplatformproject educational talks for many years. You
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know that. Who doesn' tknow the educational talks. I don'
t know if you' re aneducator. You should meet him, as
he begins in January of two thousandand twenty. You can also find it
on their YouTube channel, but especiallyon Twitter their home, although it is
now also very present on Linkedin andTelegram. How Ingrid already had little work,
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because then he decided to embark thattwenty- fifth of August, as
I tell you in a new format, in a face- to- face
format, because I believe that she, who already had a wide experience in
the virtual, said we will takethat step forward and we will all get
to know each other. And soit arises in his mind he comes up
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with the first edu day. Thiswas a meeting between teachers in which we
could live moments that we had neverlived in other congresses or in the usual
scenarios of educational sharing. In thoseworkshops, in those typical days, where
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the format was, since the generalpublic attended a presentation, a talk.
This was very different because you realizethat Ingrid had already created an online format
that was different, a format thatbreathed community everywhere. This is how the
organization of the first edu day wascreated, as I say, in August
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of two thousand twenty- two.I was lucky enough to be on this
organizing team, so I lived itall from the zero minute. Once the
first of your day has been done, I will not give you the summary
that you listen to the podcast whereI talk about the first of your day.
We' re left with an emotionalhangover, huge huge. The first
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of a day is celebrated but inthe novo Hotel de las Naciones, in
a hotel that housed a capacity thatwas no longer possible for this second edu
day, since after the first onea rather unusual movement was generated. I
do not have to say, becauseof the part of educational dissemination, since
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many of us, because we didthe same, did not tell what had
happened there, why it had beenso special. I repeat that if you
want to know what happened on thefirst day of your day, I will
leave it to you the link tothe podcast in the description box, but
I want to focus on the secondof your day. That is because I
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think it is important to say thatthere could not be a second edu day
of the educational talks that the virtualcloister, without that first one, without
that first idea of Ingrid, thatis materializing little by little, that has
a great job behind and thanks towhich it has been possible to carry out
a second hard day more ambitious ina completely different scenario the kais Afforum of
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Madrid, and a day that,moreover, needs the support of new members
in the team, in that teamthat we began to be the support people
for Ingrid to organize this edu dayand I will start this year. To
Jose. Joseph and I know wellwhy I do it. José, whom
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you know you can know on Twitterby jose Florent Vale, is responsible for
the web of the second edu day, link that I will leave you in
the box of description and I willalso leave you a link so that you
will know all the people who wereimmersed in this organization. Joseph is an
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amazing worker. I met Joseph inthe course that Ingrith Mosquera carried out together
with Aula Desigual, in which goodJosé already worked a lot and has also
done it for the first and forthe second edu day, creating this website
that I mention with Ingrid Mosquera.The logistical coordination of the edu day was
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carried out by how it could nototherwise be a person who is everywhere helping,
supporting. This is Barbara, whomyou can know on Twitter as Barbarami
Carolina, whom you can know asMaestrica. It was also everywhere dew ticker
my dearest dew to which I couldhardly see good. None of them I
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' ve been able to see almostpractically because if you' ve had something
in common or something we all saythat we went to the second of your
day is that we had little timeto be able to talk to each other,
but good what it' s goingto do to you. And they
were also in the logistic coordination MiriamMontreal, which you can know by their
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twitter media Majedrez, you know ourfavorite chess teacher and by Ana, whom
we can know as teacher and mother. In addition, on the Welcome Committee,
welcoming all the people we arrived,and so did he with me.
There was Elia, who I wasvery excited to meet, sorry I didn
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' t have more time to talkto her. You can see her on
Twitter as Elia Zapico, also winsteacher and mother, my dear Eli,
Elisa Peinado, You can search heron Twitter as she has haired Elisa and
also Master Frantic, our dearest Frankand everyone I can say my dearest,
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our dearest man and Fernando Plaza Ponce, whom you can see on Twitter as
Fernando Plaza p Que ya os.I' ll tell more about Fernando.
This was the Welcome Committee and I' m going to stop here to tell
you things about the edu day.This is this year' s format.
How was the welcome, that is, the arrival in the edu day.
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I was on a plane. I' ve flown from Galicia. I got
there and took the taxi and justgot there I got there a little bit
earlier. Of course I wanted tobe punctual. I needed to be there
at nine. I was sending somewhatsapps to the family when already to a
group of friends and friends started tosay hello here you see were people who
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were going to edu day. Thisis the atmosphere that is breathed in the
edu day, both in the firstand the second. This is the general
tonic, because, in the wordsof the engrit musquera itself, this is
an event in which we do notwant you to be alone. We don
' t want you to be alone. And so it has been I give
faith because just give a few littlesteps. I was there wasssaping when I
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' ve already been told no,no, not twenty. It' s
been great here. There I havealready met a lot of known and unknown
companions and companions. I was ableto suddenly devirtualize Oscar Recio Cola, who
had been following him for a longwhile. And really, what little justice
sometimes do us Twitter photos, becauseI totally noticed it. I' ve
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changed well I can' t sayanything, because everyone has told me I
look taller on Twitter, because I' m not sorry. I' m
a meter sixty- three right nowand this is what' s good total
that I don' t want tomess with. There I met a lot
of people already known, among themmy dear Paco from my group three,
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because I was coordinator of one ofthe groups, I was responsible for one
of the groups to organize this eduday. And I also find myself with
David Santos, whom you already knowI want and admire a lot Podcaster like
me, and also with Domingo,Chica Pardo, whom I can devirtualize,
because although he had gone to thefirst of your day, because he is
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one of those people to whom Icould not greet and this time I know
that great divulgador that is Domingo andwe go there already to you at nine
o' clock, because they werealso at a discussion table that I moderated,
the digital competition discussion table, ofwhich I will then talk to you
and we also find Rafa Guerrero,my dear friend, Rafa, the official
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photographer, another of the people memberof the organization of this Ebu day who
have worked most throughout the day Rafataking photos to be able to immortalize this
moment. Rafa that I do notknow if he has been able to enjoy
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the edu journey now. Of course, it makes the rest of the people
we come to enjoy it days later. Thank you very much, Rafa,
generosity to yours. Of course,Raffa was already the photographer of the first
edu day, the official photographer,and has also done so of this second.
Let us not forget an event inwhich one of the fundamental parts is
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to take the group photo as onemore discussion table, as another moment of
the edu day And is that,moreover, one of the key or fundamental
moments of the education came in theprogram. Nothing is that group photo that
immortalizes that meeting, that huge communitythat revolves around the ingrid moscre of the
educational talks, that moment of thephoto. As soon as we arrive,
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the Welcome Committee welcomes us at thetime of accreditation. I can meet a
lot of people there now. Amongthem, then, I find engrit moskera
ay yo. What I can sayabout this woman giving her a hug is
like a healing. She' ssuch a special person. We know that
those of us who are lucky enoughto be close to her are a person
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because in the first place she embracesyou with the soul that you see her
and rarely is she not smiling.She is happy on all four sides,
because really her involvement in the eduday is immense. She has created a
universe, a community of people wecan no longer say teachers, because in
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fact, this edu day, forme what she has had different with the
other or what has marked a beforeand after is that it has opened up
to the community of mothers and fathers, to the autistic community, to the
community high abilities. I don't know it has opened so wide and
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it has brought us so good thatits face in this event, because it
overflows, happiness and finally, atlast, comes that day of the Welcome
Committee, for what to say,a love. They all come in hugs,
there come those emotional moments rauja takingpictures like no and then I leave
at the time of breakfast. Tellme on what day, in what educational
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event a breakfast is prepared for newpeople, for people who don' t
know each other, for people whogo alone. I have attended many educational
events, many courses, many moredays all alone, because I was simply
interested in training and wanted to go. No one' s worried that I
was okay, that I was oneway or another. I think it'
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s amazing. What you' redoing here is amazing. He had arranged
a breakfast so that the people whocame alone, who did not come with
a friend or with a friend,would get to know each other and could
be a much more social environment,not that we could talk and get to
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know each other. I was luckyenough to be able to go to this
breakfast that seems to me a genius, accompanied by Lisa, Frangelia and Fernando
and good more people that we werethere. I don' t want to
let anyone that memory is very treacherousby returning the members of the organization to
the event team. They were,besides Ana and Eliar, to whom already
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mentioned, besides Frank, our wanted, Alejandra Fernández on Twitter, also Fernando,
my dearest, MónicaÁlvarez Ganado,author of the fantastic book La Brigada
Mariposa Maite, with whom I believeI have not even been able to talk.
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I don' t have that memoryof being able to say hello to
Maite Martinez. Periles that you canfind on Twitter as MM. Perailes that
I' ve been very sorry for. The very great Lola cabrillana, who
does not know Lola for God teacher, which you can find on Twitter,
because of the children and writer ofthe Gypsy teacher, also that I have
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already mentioned them, RafaÁvila,Miriam Monreal, Barbara, Carolina or Maestrica,
Rocio Tich Rocío and Pablo de OtziMorons, who you can know on
Twitter as Othy Morons, whose witnessof the afternoon I still remember also Paula
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Marcel whom you can know on Twitteras Paula Marcelo m and Vía file,
Marta Tourón, whom you could knowon Twitter as Marta Tourón, of which
I can pronounce her surname well,because I am a Galician Marta, a
specialist in high abilities and a wholescholar in the world of online dissemination.
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Educational. Lucky for my mother,but I was there, please, amazing.
I think this is amazing. Thisyour day, unlike the previous ones,
had a responsible for cultural activities nomore or less than Fernando Plaza Ponce
and I can not help but rememberthat first edu day in which I had
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the luck to have it good.We were lucky enough to have him at
the same table, eating that tablewhere there was so much talk about art,
that table where he shared so muchbecause Fernando is a great scholar of
the world, of the history ofart. It' s just that Fernando
Plaza doesn' t know about art. I find it incredible to be able
to count on him. How ithas been possible to tell in this edu
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day and is that in this daya series of parallel activities were organized the
previous and later days, among themon Sunday two guided visits to the Prado
Museum by Fernando, which is alujazo. How I wish I could have
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been well. Fernando knows that Iam also passionate about art, to be
able to see the Prado through theeyes of this great divulgator, something that
I missed is one of the littlethorns that I took from the second of
your day. But it is alsothat, the previous day, i e
Friday, different free guided tours tothe Kaissa for Madrid were also organized Friday
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afternoon to see the exhibition art andnature, as well as a stay to
meet the people who went alone andwho knew no one, all for the
organization. And what to say isthat even dinners, dinners organized the previous
and subsequent days in charge of people, then, who worked in the organizing
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team of the dedu day. Youtell me what educational congress, what educational
event. You go and organize culturalvisits, dinner meals, but this is,
well, this is the day trip. Ladies and gentlemen, In addition,
at this event there was an organizationby groups, that is, of
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those more than three hundred people thatwe attended the event. Different groups were
coordinated by the following people. Frank, Master Frantic, I' ve already
mentioned it to you, Barbara,I' ve mentioned it to you,
too. La Rotesemeyer, Miss RottesMeyer, our dearest charo, was also
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responsible for one of the groups ofthe edu day. Our dear Rafa Dávila,
also Alejandra, who I have alreadymentioned to you also Carolina Mastrika in
Nés Sines Cabezas, to which weknow as ior on Twitter, specialist in
high abilities, and the wife ofJosé, the creator of the page of
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the edu day Maite, of whomI have also spoken to you Elisa,
has also told you about her mydear, Elisa Rocio, our dear Rocío
Lola Cabrillana Jimena, the one oflanguages that I had not yet skipped.
I am reading them all for thefabulous page that Ingrid and José, my
educational gemelier, Marta, have made, to which you can know as tch
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tich m Miriam, who has alreadytold you, Fernando Martí, our dear
Fernando, to whom I have onlybeen able to see for a little while.
It' s a shame for me. Our kique Enrique Guerrero, who
has given me a great pity,has not been able to go to the
edu day for forces of greater cause, as it is usually said, has
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undoubtedly been to the person who Ihave missed the most I have already told
my monic and ana cheridisigma as well, and well I had to say a
servant who has also taken care ofa group. Well, one group,
one group, the best group intheéducernada, the number three group,
in which some people from last yearwere already repeating that we were group one.
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We became group three, but notleast. Hey, don' t
think about it and we' vebeen able to enjoy the company of new
friends and new partners. And soit has been nothing fabulous for the people
who took care of the groups,because we were there to help everyone find
their place, so that everyone wouldfind themselves very at ease, as in
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family, because this is the eduday. None of this would be possible
without group coordination. If this hasto have, this is very horizontal,
but it has to have a hierarchy, because getting to this level of organization
where they give you everything, alldone, has a job. And that
' s what the great coordinators arefor. They were all over it by
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choice. Barbara, Carolina Maestrica,Elisa and Rocío have worked very hard.
Thank you so much. I havealready told my dearest Elie, who has
been the coordinator of my own groupand who has done me the job so
but so easy to end with themembers of the organizing team see if there
have to be people behind an event. Of these characteristics are the audiovisual equipment
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that have not stopped working throughout theday and that are, therefore, carrying
out amazing post- productions. FernandoMartí, who I have already mentioned to
you, who you can find onTwitter by Fernando Martí seven, Alberto Romero
Moyal, who you can find asAlberto pt FP and who has created an
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amazing video about the edu day.I' m going to leave you the
link too What a hell of aPatrick Santos, who you can find as
Patricia Ten, who I' lltell you about later. He has been
brilliant in the edu day and couldnot miss David Gándara, who you can
find as Mr Rooks and who is, therefore, the official cartoonist of the
EDU day. The art behind theedu day is not put by Fernando alone,
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who also puts it David Gandara andso far I believe that he has
not left me to anyone. I' ll kill myself if I happen to
have any left. I don't think I' ve left any partners,
any partners. Well, yes,there' s one that I haven
' t mentioned to the director ofall this, the management, obviously,
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is in engritmos, that was theone that took the most great work and
that was able to coordinate a teamlike that when it shouldn' t be
anything easy. But I' lltell you about her. At the end
of everything, we had stayed 20minutes gone and I haven' t started.
We practically didn' t know whereto meet at breakfast. That breakfast,
well managed for the people who wentto the event alone. And it
is not until 10 (23:18):
30 that the second edu day of educational talks and
the virtual cloister is officially inaugurated.Then we arrived again at the Kaisaforum and
I met with my pedagogical orange half, my dearest friend Cecii gomez del pine,
less bad that this time I havebeen able to enjoy a little more
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of your company, because rarely wesee the teacher of the south and the
teacher of the north, because ofcourse we stayed away for a while,
thousands of hugs kisses. There isan atmosphere of brotherhood, companionship, family,
and at 10 (23:52):
30 a m, comes out in the musquera,
thanking first of all the people responsiblefor the Kais Afforum. The building is
amazing. It is practically all destinedfor the edu day. This Saturday,
April 6. Its spaces, ofcourse, exquisite fully adapted and fully conditioned
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to the eduwe day with a lotof workers making it possible. And there
comes that moment when Ingrid says thosewelcome and welcome words. And that'
s like a football stadium. Peopleare a fan of what it is We
all start applauding, winning, screaming. It' s educational madness. That
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' s Ingrid Moskera. I remember. That' s how I remember it,
and I think we' ve alllived it. That' s something
you feel. It' s likea feeling that virtual cloister all united there
the truth. It' s aninsurmountable feeling and we' re going to
the discussion tables now. In mycase, I was the moderator of the
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debate talk. Two digital competitions privacyand network security a table that initially had
a brief presentation by the experts thatnow the experts that I am going to
mention to you and that later postponingwould go on to a series of questions
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and open debate. However, therewas little time for the debate, although
the debate itself was implicit in theinterventions of my colleagues and my companions who
were brilliant in room three of KaisaForum, they offered us their full knowledge.
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David Chica, who told us aboutthe digital competition. David, who
is a divulgator you can find onthe website. David Chica, com is
without a doubt David, one ofthe most knowledgeable and knowledgeable divulgators of digital
competition. Here in Spain and wewere lucky enough to enjoy his speech and
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a presentation that brought us outstanding.He began by talking about the reference framework
of digital competition, as well asthe TPAC model. Now I' m
going to say it in English.Now you can laugh a while tepack of
technologic, CALP, Pedagogical Countet noldLege, well that is based on three
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areas of knowledge, pedagogical knowledge,content and technology. By combining them with
each other, seven specific knowledge isobtained. Theory of Punjabi Ra, who
would surely have pronounced wrong and MatthewJ Cochever also spoke of the model Samre
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of Rubén Puente dura and there wasa part that I particularly liked and is
one in which he referred to theresumes in which he highlighted different criteria of
evaluation that, as they generated orproposed activities of production in different formats or
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supports using digital and analog tools.And something. This good emphasis. Rather,
Domingo stressed that it is i noor, as many teachers are not
fulfilling what the curriculum says, usingonly analogic means. In the performance of
these evaluation criteria, technology is impliedby official curriculum. Within the law is
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the teacher who is digitally competent becausehe uses this technology in the classrooms.
Then spoke my partner and also podcaster, David Santos, who introduced different tomatics
related to digital competition and his roleas director of a nursery and primary education
center to the Bay. I didn' t say it was half an hour
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away. I dropped something. It' s okay. He continued with David
Santos, who began his speech witha question that is very well posed,
what is most important in digitization.And while the vast majority of those who
were there gave reasons such as security, privacy, the defense of student rights,
he said the most important thing inthe digitalization process is you are us,
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we the teachers, who are theones who have that power to transform
digitalization into something positive, to dosomething good. All of this reminded us
of the gap created in Pandemia,the digital divide that has not ended and
that is being filled in the digitalcompetition gap. Teaching words by David Santos,
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who fully supported and I found hisspeech brilliant. I would also highlight
this quote you gave from Douglas Adams. Technology is a word that describes something
that still doesn' t work.I love it, David, I love
it not. There is also talkof the lack of devices and connection of
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the family, of how important thefamily is when it comes to this digitization.
As the family can help the studentsa lot. As for Barbara,
what to say about Barbara, Barbara, who is that woman who doesn'
t tell me, who calls heran expert and now she' s going
to listen to him even in thesoup. Barbara talked about the management of
technologies in schools and insisted that weprotect our students, that those things that
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were done before once we know theyare wrong. There were so many examples
in the debate, those things thatwe know is so bad. We can
' t do them again. Yeah. We cannot take a step back,
no matter how much other schools do, no matter how much other teachers do.
We can' t go back.We have to protect our students from
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the dangers of technology. He alsoinsisted on the responsibility of the management teams
in managing the data and image ofour students, creating specific protocols in each
school. He talked and commented alot about photographs, about the image of
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our students, about how we canno longer violate those rights that our childhood
has, to its privacy forgiveness andto its image, to its own image.
And it' s Patri Santos'turn, a patrisa of which I
insist I' ve already said iton some social network, I' ve
already said it out there that Ididn' t know he was a lawyer.
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I missed that talk I couldn't hear because I hear them as
a good podcaster that I am,I listen to them unless it has a
lot of visual content. I havenot been able to hear any talk from
her in which she speaks about himthe legal part of data protection in educational
institutions. Then I didn' tknow his facet as a lawyer. I
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knew Patrick Santos for his projects,for his work on other boundaries. Homeland
was awesome. Impressive really said truthslike fists. It left many things clear
to us and above all began withthat part of the regulations, the General
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Regulation, the GDPR of two thousandsixteen, which crystallized there in two thousand
eighteen on the Organic Law of DataProtection. This is what I' m
talking about in this clitization of theDecember 5th Digital Rights Guarantee and the Organic
Education Law told us about so manythings. I wouldn' t know where
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to start with sanctions. We putour hairs a little bit of a tip
in the form of an alert.He clarified a lot of doubts about consent.
But what I would like to highlightmost about your talk is that it
is the duty of every official,every educational officer, to know the Data
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Protection Act, to know the entirelegal framework about data protection and that,
because many teachers, many teachers,perhaps we do not know or have not
deepened. Therefore, it is importantfor us to have this knowledge. He
told us about the principle of proactiveresponsibility and I have already said in that
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debate that after party was made ofeducational talks, that everyone should investigate a
little us about this, because itseems fundamental to me, something that I
think opened many eyes on April 6thHomeland with this speech and well, I
don' t know I think thereshould be a talk of these for all
schools once in a lifetime. Atleast I feel very grateful for having been
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at that discussion table, learned alot and enjoyed very much the knowledge of
colleagues there too there were a lotof personalities within the digital competition. I
' m not going to mention anyonefor not making anyone special, but I
' ve already told you some andsome of the people I' ve talked
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to. It has been an honorfor me to moderate much that there was
no moderating, because the experts werealready guiding the debate themselves. To moderate,
along with my partner Barbara and mypartner Patrik, this discussion table,
which has been very interesting, butit was not the only thing that happened
in the edu day, because inthis day we had more discussion tables,
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more workshops and there was a widerange of knowledge to explore. In fact,
in bat talk one talked about artificialintelligence. There was also a workshop
discussion of learning and fun, fromwhich everyone came out in love. A
discussion table on autism and a discussiontable on high skills. As you see,
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a wide range of training was focusedon the people attending the event.
At this event, I think he' s the only one at the educational
level who was ingritmos that he didn' t run a previous program and then
sign up people. No, peopledon' t sign up and then she
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elaborates the program based on the peoplewho are going to attend, because it
is a personalized event, obviously personalized, towards the n community, the virtual
cloister and the educational talks, butalways depending on the strengths she finds,
because she makes a dafo you willallow me brilliant. Woe to what event
this happens in none. At 1 (35:12):
30 the group food begins. The
meal is done in a large roomin the Kaisaforum, where we were able
to embrace and devirtualize while we wereeating. It' s that super beautiful
moment where you can talk to peoplein a relaxed way. I have been
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lucky enough to share the food withmany friends, among whom I will highlight
my dearest CECI and there he maybe talking to a lot of people whom
I love and whom I admire todevirtualize my dear Pablo, Pablo PT,
that you have, that you haveon Twitter like Pablo PT, with whom
he can talk very little, time, what a pity. I was also
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with Monica from the mother' ssource, sphere, mother' s creator,
sphere chatting for a while and Itook a conversation with her about outreach
and parenting, which is something I' m going to propose to follow her
example, because it has really givenme a lot to think about a conversation
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that remains between us, because it' s a private pelin, but you
know mónica. If you hear thisin your tight schedule, you have as
always I will follow your example,that you have inspired me a lot and
that conversation I keep. I keepit also meet Rocío of the basket of
mother see A, someone who didnot expect me to be like this,
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because I met her through a symbol, which is the symbol of his podcast,
podcast that I recommend always, becauseI do not know to see Rocío
his voice with his face at last, the truth has made me very excited.
I' ve been with a lotof people, the food new people
I' ve met. I'm sure I' ll let myself be
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like I' m not leaving people. In fact, I am very sorry
because there are people whom I wouldlike to be talking to and who are
greeted by a reference, such asMiría portero, for example, my dear
Isaac of the news letter of thevirtual crasto, to whom I have greeted
so much of a reference, becauseI had to solve some edu day and
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I have not been able to greetyou in conditions if I even have the
idea, because there are moments thatI have as much lived and others that
I do not remember so much,because it is a morning of many emotions.
I don' t have the ideathat my dear Jimena from the organization
didn' t even give her akiss, but I heard her as a
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poor little problem. It' sjust that no hello Jimena, how are
you kissing? I don' tthink that' s what I' m
saying That' s how crazy itwas in the morning. Not that time
food was very special. It wasand is very special in the edu day,
because it also culminates with the groupphoto. What event has a group
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photo where you take a photo tomake that immortalized and what group photo.
I' d rather say it wasa dynamic. It didn' t say
on the show. Don' tbe late or you' ll miss this
unique memory. Of course, whodoesn' t have the picture of the
group of your day now, notof the second your day. It has
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been magical, a very special momentand thanks to RafaÁvila and Fernando Martí
we can have this memory, becausefor all life. The photo was taken
outside the Kanshafurun, on that panelthat they have so special and so influential,
because there we were all taking away. The photo can also talk,
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because besides conceci with Rocío and Monica, with my dearest Monica Magando, we
have been talking about her work,the Butterfly Brigade, among other things,
because she has used it as areading club in my classroom and there we
are commenting. These are days youtake advantage of to be able to talk
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about all this that you can't say during the year, because there
are things that are cool to talkabout in person. It' s also
time to take our group photos.I know that the photo we were with
in group three, then always missingphotos that you don' t know who
made them for you, etcetera,etcetera. Well, I hope everyone has
found themselves in this group photograph andin this group photo, I can finally
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talk to my dearest Ana Ana Sancho, Ana Fernández Sancho, who was already
in my group on the first dayand who is for me, because she
is a source of inspiration, adick friend and someone, because it makes
me very excited to see every timeI see her I don' t know,
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she is a very special person,a very great communicator. Then I
show it to us on the afternoonday that I really take off my hat
before Anna who came with all thoseof the law, with all her injuries,
my poor woman and who I loved, because to spend that little time
with her so that we can catchup a little bit and chat. And
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the final part came the debate onmental health, a debate that I have
missed, because a good part ofit because I had to return the circumstances
have wanted that this year I cannotenjoy the edu full time. I haven
' t known until the last moment, but for personal reasons, because I
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had to come and go in theday or as I planned. Well,
what' s he gonna do?At least, I have not been able
to enjoy intensely the part, ofthe previous part, say, of the
discussion table, of mental health,of the round table, rather of mental
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health, which has been bestial whenwe ingrithmos that was it has again presented
a moment as I lived it asat a concert. I' m really
telling you when Ingrid came out andshowed up like this at the group level.
To me, the sensations I hadare like those when you go to
a concert and hear that I don' t live the concerts in a quiet
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way that I live them And tome it was the same. It was
the same thing to go out andsay welcome back, and that was like
a stadium coming up. The testimonieshave been incredible, very represented in one
of them in particular. I'm not going to talk because I'
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m not going to talk about thingsthat are even personal and that live in
the moment. As Ingrid very wellsays, these testimonies are to live in
that moment. And if you've been, then lucky for you and
if you haven' t been,there are things I can' t tell
you anymore. It is important todivulge about these educational events, about these
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situations, but there are things Icannot tell you, because they come within
the privacy of the event. AndI want to remember that it is a
time when a safe space is created, that safe space in which people explay
and speak from a very personal visionthat involves what is the educational world,
both teachers and people living in theeducational world, as families and good and
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other agents within the world of education. But I can' t tell who
he was with or why. Iwill tell you in due course, but
there was a testimony that came tome because I felt very identified and the
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rest of the day I kept ruminatingit. I kept thinking about this over
and over again, as certain circumstancesmay mark your life at this Roundtable.
Ana Sancho makes a simile that hasremained in all of us the floater.
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For Ana Sancho and I believe thatfor all that float is the virtual cloister
that sometimes, well, prevents usfrom sinking the people that we have chosen
beyond our life a zero, thosepeople who even being in the distance,
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support you to move forward. AnaSancho. Thanks for being my floater.
You told me that too and nowI want to tell you, in case
you hear it. Thank you forbeing that floater that makes me feel better
than that exploiter that I know Ican turn to at a complicated time.
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And I would say and I havealready said, in fact, that more
than floater, it is already aLifesaver. The second edu day of the
virtual cloister and the educational talks hastherefore been an event, since as always
unprecedented, in which I have leftthe first and greeted people to whom I
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had not greeted in the first day. To be ashamed, this time I
have gone along with the teacher ramonand greeted him. I said what the
hell. Don' t miss thismoment and I' ve greeted a lot
of people. I probably either greetedyou and didn' t mention you because
I missed it or if I didn' t, it' s because I
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was embarrassed. It is already knownto read if any person like, for
example, this one of conscience thathas given me a little bit of shame
to go and greet her, butin the next time I will be taking
it out. I see that.From year to year. I still have
someone I didn' t say helloto in the first or the second.
Everything will come and nothing will senda very strong kiss to those people with
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whom I have been able to bealone for a little while as imma,
like María José Amador, I don' t know how many people I have
been with because that mini seconds,because it did not allow us. Time
is what it is, but ithas to be, precisely because of the
people who, like me, hadto move back and forth in the day.
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Well, what to say about thesecond day, because, like the
first, it has been an event, because without precedent the vanguard of the
educational events that we will talk aboutin the future. So, I think
they will all evolve by making morecommunity, more pineapple, more caring for
the user, for the horizontality,which is what characterizes our edu day,
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an event that we cannot forget.And I' ve left it for the
end, because if she does,I' m gonna do it for her.
I' ve also left the coolest, most special thing for the finale.
This is not possible if it isnot for the generosity of our great
and dearest boss, Ingrid Mosquera,my God, what a brilliant mind,
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what a mind, what a head, what a way to do things,
what creativity, what a model heis giving us. Ingrid takes all my
admiration. I admire her as aworker, as a teacher, as a
creative mind, as a divulgator.It is impossible not to admire all the
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people of his skin. She isa unique person and thanks to her,
Only thanks to her is it possiblethis day all that has worked to create
a community, a safe space,a place to give us voice, where
to give us that loud voice,that megaphone to be able to express ourselves.
It' s amazing the good itoffers the world. Ingrid Moskera,
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thank you, dear Ingrid, foralways making me a little hole in your
team. I am so grateful toyou for all the experiences, for all
the meaning, for all the experiences, for this second edu day, which
has been wonderful. Thank you forbeing our great floater, our Lifesaver,
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for allowing us to connect. It' s amazing, how you' ve
moved digital to analog to real life, how you' ve been able to
make those educational talks come true inthe world. One zero. Thank you
very much, without Grid. Ifyou did not exist, you should be
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created, because the good you doto the world is indescribable and so necessary,
so but so necessary that the worldof educational dissemination is no longer conceived
without your real presence. You're a 21st century genius, you'
re a polymata like a few.Thank you so much just for being a
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Friend. You are amazing and sofar my particular, vision of the second
edu day of virtual cloister and educationaltalks. It has been an honor to
be there, a privilege and Iam deeply grateful to all, to all
people, to all and to allwho have made it possible. We'
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ve got a Shito sinho podcast left, as we' d say here.
If you have stayed until the endto hear it, I also thank you,
not before inviting you to share it, of course, because it is
necessary to divulge about this type ofeducational practices. So if you' ve
heard it and you' ve likedsharing it with us, it' s
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living and that' s how weall grow up. I say goodbye until
the next podcast. I honestly don' t know when I' m gonna
be able to do it right now. My life is very complex, very
complicated. I' ve got alot of work to do, but I
' ll let you know. Thankyou so much for being there. I
' ll send you a big kissand if there' s a third day,
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please have it. I want tosee you there. I' d
love to say hello to you,I' d love to meet you and
weave that network of floaters all overthe world ahead. I' ll say
good- bye until I' mready. We can' t say this
until next week, because life isas it is, but until the next
time I work n b b
Selective attention, the podcast of VidaFernández, teacher, content creator and naná
good morning, good afternoon or goodevening. Be the moment you' re
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there. We welcome you to thepodcast selective attention. Chapter number seven of
the fourth season, no more andno less and an entire world that we
had been unable to record life,the life that is thus less bad that
we have events like the second edoday of the virtual cloister and the educational
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talks to return to the arena.And today we have a special episode of
those in which I do not summarizeor summarize, of those in which I
play because the occasion deserves it.Today I' m going to tell you
everything I lived in the first personon the second edu day of the educational
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talks and the virtual cloister, thatgreat event organized by you know and if
you don' t know, hereyou are to listen to it ingrid mosquito
people. But let' s startat the beginning of the times, as
Manolito Gafotas would say that I willtell you from that moment, that for
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me began this event that was heldlast Saturday, April 6 in Kaishaforum,
Madrid, as I already told inhis day in the review that I made
of the first edu day. Allthis begins a twenty- fifth of August
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of two thousand and twenty- twoand in which ingrid Mosquera gathers a number
of people to create the first organizinggroup of the edu day. And who
' s a man in the mosquitocry if you don' t know her
at this point and you' rea follower of this podcast, we'
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re going badly and often and I' m talking to you on this podcast
of my dearest Ingrid. Ingrid mosquitoagent. He is a university teacher in
the areas of didactics and educational technology, in the grades of early childhood education
and primary education, as well asin the master' s degree of secondary
education and in the degree of pedagogy. In addition, she is a writer
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and I recommend that you read herbook informal learning on Twitter networks and educational
talks, as well as a researcherspecializing in informal learning, online education and
educational technology. It develops the multiplatformproject educational talks for many years. You
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know that. Who doesn' tknow the educational talks. I don'
t know if you' re aneducator. You should meet him, as
he begins in January of two thousandand twenty. You can also find it
on their YouTube channel, but especiallyon Twitter their home, although it is
now also very present on Linkedin andTelegram. How Ingrid already had little work,
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because then he decided to embark thattwenty- fifth of August, as
I tell you in a new format, in a face- to- face
format, because I believe that she, who already had a wide experience in
the virtual, said we will takethat step forward and we will all get
to know each other. And soit arises in his mind he comes up
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with the first edu day. Thiswas a meeting between teachers in which we
could live moments that we had neverlived in other congresses or in the usual
scenarios of educational sharing. In thoseworkshops, in those typical days, where
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the format was, since the generalpublic attended a presentation, a talk.
This was very different because you realizethat Ingrid had already created an online format
that was different, a format thatbreathed community everywhere. This is how the
organization of the first edu day wascreated, as I say, in August
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of two thousand twenty- two.I was lucky enough to be on this
organizing team, so I lived itall from the zero minute. Once the
first of your day has been done, I will not give you the summary
that you listen to the podcast whereI talk about the first of your day.
We' re left with an emotionalhangover, huge huge. The first
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of a day is celebrated but inthe novo Hotel de las Naciones, in
a hotel that housed a capacity thatwas no longer possible for this second edu
day, since after the first onea rather unusual movement was generated. I
do not have to say, becauseof the part of educational dissemination, since
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many of us, because we didthe same, did not tell what had
happened there, why it had beenso special. I repeat that if you
want to know what happened on thefirst day of your day, I will
leave it to you the link tothe podcast in the description box, but
I want to focus on the secondof your day. That is because I
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think it is important to say thatthere could not be a second edu day
of the educational talks that the virtualcloister, without that first one, without
that first idea of Ingrid, thatis materializing little by little, that has
a great job behind and thanks towhich it has been possible to carry out
a second hard day more ambitious ina completely different scenario the kais Afforum of
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Madrid, and a day that,moreover, needs the support of new members
in the team, in that teamthat we began to be the support people
for Ingrid to organize this edu dayand I will start this year. To
Jose. Joseph and I know wellwhy I do it. José, whom
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you know you can know on Twitterby jose Florent Vale, is responsible for
the web of the second edu day, link that I will leave you in
the box of description and I willalso leave you a link so that you
will know all the people who wereimmersed in this organization. Joseph is an
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amazing worker. I met Joseph inthe course that Ingrith Mosquera carried out together
with Aula Desigual, in which goodJosé already worked a lot and has also
done it for the first and forthe second edu day, creating this website
that I mention with Ingrid Mosquera.The logistical coordination of the edu day was
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carried out by how it could nototherwise be a person who is everywhere helping,
supporting. This is Barbara, whomyou can know on Twitter as Barbarami
Carolina, whom you can know asMaestrica. It was also everywhere dew ticker
my dearest dew to which I couldhardly see good. None of them I
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' ve been able to see almostpractically because if you' ve had something
in common or something we all saythat we went to the second of your
day is that we had little timeto be able to talk to each other,
but good what it' s goingto do to you. And they
were also in the logistic coordination MiriamMontreal, which you can know by their
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twitter media Majedrez, you know ourfavorite chess teacher and by Ana, whom
we can know as teacher and mother. In addition, on the Welcome Committee,
welcoming all the people we arrived,and so did he with me.
There was Elia, who I wasvery excited to meet, sorry I didn
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' t have more time to talkto her. You can see her on
Twitter as Elia Zapico, also winsteacher and mother, my dear Eli,
Elisa Peinado, You can search heron Twitter as she has haired Elisa and
also Master Frantic, our dearest Frankand everyone I can say my dearest,
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our dearest man and Fernando Plaza Ponce, whom you can see on Twitter as
Fernando Plaza p Que ya os.I' ll tell more about Fernando.
This was the Welcome Committee and I' m going to stop here to tell
you things about the edu day.This is this year' s format.
How was the welcome, that is, the arrival in the edu day.
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I was on a plane. I' ve flown from Galicia. I got
there and took the taxi and justgot there I got there a little bit
earlier. Of course I wanted tobe punctual. I needed to be there
at nine. I was sending somewhatsapps to the family when already to a
group of friends and friends started tosay hello here you see were people who
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were going to edu day. Thisis the atmosphere that is breathed in the
edu day, both in the firstand the second. This is the general
tonic, because, in the wordsof the engrit musquera itself, this is
an event in which we do notwant you to be alone. We don
' t want you to be alone. And so it has been I give
faith because just give a few littlesteps. I was there wasssaping when I
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' ve already been told no,no, not twenty. It' s
been great here. There I havealready met a lot of known and unknown
companions and companions. I was ableto suddenly devirtualize Oscar Recio Cola, who
had been following him for a longwhile. And really, what little justice
sometimes do us Twitter photos, becauseI totally noticed it. I' ve
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changed well I can' t sayanything, because everyone has told me I
look taller on Twitter, because I' m not sorry. I' m
a meter sixty- three right nowand this is what' s good total
that I don' t want tomess with. There I met a lot
of people already known, among themmy dear Paco from my group three,
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because I was coordinator of one ofthe groups, I was responsible for one
of the groups to organize this eduday. And I also find myself with
David Santos, whom you already knowI want and admire a lot Podcaster like
me, and also with Domingo,Chica Pardo, whom I can devirtualize,
because although he had gone to thefirst of your day, because he is
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one of those people to whom Icould not greet and this time I know
that great divulgador that is Domingo andwe go there already to you at nine
o' clock, because they werealso at a discussion table that I moderated,
the digital competition discussion table, ofwhich I will then talk to you
and we also find Rafa Guerrero,my dear friend, Rafa, the official
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photographer, another of the people memberof the organization of this Ebu day who
have worked most throughout the day Rafataking photos to be able to immortalize this
moment. Rafa that I do notknow if he has been able to enjoy
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the edu journey now. Of course, it makes the rest of the people
we come to enjoy it days later. Thank you very much, Rafa,
generosity to yours. Of course,Raffa was already the photographer of the first
edu day, the official photographer,and has also done so of this second.
Let us not forget an event inwhich one of the fundamental parts is
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to take the group photo as onemore discussion table, as another moment of
the edu day And is that,moreover, one of the key or fundamental
moments of the education came in theprogram. Nothing is that group photo that
immortalizes that meeting, that huge communitythat revolves around the ingrid moscre of the
educational talks, that moment of thephoto. As soon as we arrive,
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the Welcome Committee welcomes us at thetime of accreditation. I can meet a
lot of people there now. Amongthem, then, I find engrit moskera
ay yo. What I can sayabout this woman giving her a hug is
like a healing. She' ssuch a special person. We know that
those of us who are lucky enoughto be close to her are a person
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because in the first place she embracesyou with the soul that you see her
and rarely is she not smiling.She is happy on all four sides,
because really her involvement in the eduday is immense. She has created a
universe, a community of people wecan no longer say teachers, because in
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fact, this edu day, forme what she has had different with the
other or what has marked a beforeand after is that it has opened up
to the community of mothers and fathers, to the autistic community, to the
community high abilities. I don't know it has opened so wide and
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it has brought us so good thatits face in this event, because it
overflows, happiness and finally, atlast, comes that day of the Welcome
Committee, for what to say,a love. They all come in hugs,
there come those emotional moments rauja takingpictures like no and then I leave
at the time of breakfast. Tellme on what day, in what educational
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event a breakfast is prepared for newpeople, for people who don' t
know each other, for people whogo alone. I have attended many educational
events, many courses, many moredays all alone, because I was simply
interested in training and wanted to go. No one' s worried that I
was okay, that I was oneway or another. I think it'
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s amazing. What you' redoing here is amazing. He had arranged
a breakfast so that the people whocame alone, who did not come with
a friend or with a friend,would get to know each other and could
be a much more social environment,not that we could talk and get to
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know each other. I was luckyenough to be able to go to this
breakfast that seems to me a genius, accompanied by Lisa, Frangelia and Fernando
and good more people that we werethere. I don' t want to
let anyone that memory is very treacherousby returning the members of the organization to
the event team. They were,besides Ana and Eliar, to whom already
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mentioned, besides Frank, our wanted, Alejandra Fernández on Twitter, also Fernando,
my dearest, MónicaÁlvarez Ganado,author of the fantastic book La Brigada
Mariposa Maite, with whom I believeI have not even been able to talk.
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I don' t have that memoryof being able to say hello to
Maite Martinez. Periles that you canfind on Twitter as MM. Perailes that
I' ve been very sorry for. The very great Lola cabrillana, who
does not know Lola for God teacher, which you can find on Twitter,
because of the children and writer ofthe Gypsy teacher, also that I have
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already mentioned them, RafaÁvila,Miriam Monreal, Barbara, Carolina or Maestrica,
Rocio Tich Rocío and Pablo de OtziMorons, who you can know on
Twitter as Othy Morons, whose witnessof the afternoon I still remember also Paula
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Marcel whom you can know on Twitteras Paula Marcelo m and Vía file,
Marta Tourón, whom you could knowon Twitter as Marta Tourón, of which
I can pronounce her surname well,because I am a Galician Marta, a
specialist in high abilities and a wholescholar in the world of online dissemination.
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Educational. Lucky for my mother,but I was there, please, amazing.
I think this is amazing. Thisyour day, unlike the previous ones,
had a responsible for cultural activities nomore or less than Fernando Plaza Ponce
and I can not help but rememberthat first edu day in which I had
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the luck to have it good.We were lucky enough to have him at
the same table, eating that tablewhere there was so much talk about art,
that table where he shared so muchbecause Fernando is a great scholar of
the world, of the history ofart. It' s just that Fernando
Plaza doesn' t know about art. I find it incredible to be able
to count on him. How ithas been possible to tell in this edu
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day and is that in this daya series of parallel activities were organized the
previous and later days, among themon Sunday two guided visits to the Prado
Museum by Fernando, which is alujazo. How I wish I could have
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been well. Fernando knows that Iam also passionate about art, to be
able to see the Prado through theeyes of this great divulgator, something that
I missed is one of the littlethorns that I took from the second of
your day. But it is alsothat, the previous day, i e
Friday, different free guided tours tothe Kaissa for Madrid were also organized Friday
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afternoon to see the exhibition art andnature, as well as a stay to
meet the people who went alone andwho knew no one, all for the
organization. And what to say isthat even dinners, dinners organized the previous
and subsequent days in charge of people, then, who worked in the organizing
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team of the dedu day. Youtell me what educational congress, what educational
event. You go and organize culturalvisits, dinner meals, but this is,
well, this is the day trip. Ladies and gentlemen, In addition,
at this event there was an organizationby groups, that is, of
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those more than three hundred people thatwe attended the event. Different groups were
coordinated by the following people. Frank, Master Frantic, I' ve already
mentioned it to you, Barbara,I' ve mentioned it to you,
too. La Rotesemeyer, Miss RottesMeyer, our dearest charo, was also
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responsible for one of the groups ofthe edu day. Our dear Rafa Dávila,
also Alejandra, who I have alreadymentioned to you also Carolina Mastrika in
Nés Sines Cabezas, to which weknow as ior on Twitter, specialist in
high abilities, and the wife ofJosé, the creator of the page of
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the edu day Maite, of whomI have also spoken to you Elisa,
has also told you about her mydear, Elisa Rocio, our dear Rocío
Lola Cabrillana Jimena, the one oflanguages that I had not yet skipped.
I am reading them all for thefabulous page that Ingrid and José, my
educational gemelier, Marta, have made, to which you can know as tch
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tich m Miriam, who has alreadytold you, Fernando Martí, our dear
Fernando, to whom I have onlybeen able to see for a little while.
It' s a shame for me. Our kique Enrique Guerrero, who
has given me a great pity,has not been able to go to the
edu day for forces of greater cause, as it is usually said, has
(20:11):
undoubtedly been to the person who Ihave missed the most I have already told
my monic and ana cheridisigma as well, and well I had to say a
servant who has also taken care ofa group. Well, one group,
one group, the best group intheéducernada, the number three group,
in which some people from last yearwere already repeating that we were group one.
(20:33):
We became group three, but notleast. Hey, don' t
think about it and we' vebeen able to enjoy the company of new
friends and new partners. And soit has been nothing fabulous for the people
who took care of the groups,because we were there to help everyone find
their place, so that everyone wouldfind themselves very at ease, as in
(20:55):
family, because this is the eduday. None of this would be possible
without group coordination. If this hasto have, this is very horizontal,
but it has to have a hierarchy, because getting to this level of organization
where they give you everything, alldone, has a job. And that
' s what the great coordinators arefor. They were all over it by
(21:17):
choice. Barbara, Carolina Maestrica,Elisa and Rocío have worked very hard.
Thank you so much. I havealready told my dearest Elie, who has
been the coordinator of my own groupand who has done me the job so
but so easy to end with themembers of the organizing team see if there
have to be people behind an event. Of these characteristics are the audiovisual equipment
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that have not stopped working throughout theday and that are, therefore, carrying
out amazing post- productions. FernandoMartí, who I have already mentioned to
you, who you can find onTwitter by Fernando Martí seven, Alberto Romero
Moyal, who you can find asAlberto pt FP and who has created an
(22:06):
amazing video about the edu day.I' m going to leave you the
link too What a hell of aPatrick Santos, who you can find as
Patricia Ten, who I' lltell you about later. He has been
brilliant in the edu day and couldnot miss David Gándara, who you can
find as Mr Rooks and who is, therefore, the official cartoonist of the
EDU day. The art behind theedu day is not put by Fernando alone,
(22:30):
who also puts it David Gandara andso far I believe that he has
not left me to anyone. I' ll kill myself if I happen to
have any left. I don't think I' ve left any partners,
any partners. Well, yes,there' s one that I haven
' t mentioned to the director ofall this, the management, obviously,
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is in engritmos, that was theone that took the most great work and
that was able to coordinate a teamlike that when it shouldn' t be
anything easy. But I' lltell you about her. At the end
of everything, we had stayed 20minutes gone and I haven' t started.
We practically didn' t know whereto meet at breakfast. That breakfast,
well managed for the people who wentto the event alone. And it
is not until 10 (23:18):
30 that the second edu day of educational talks and
the virtual cloister is officially inaugurated.Then we arrived again at the Kaisaforum and
I met with my pedagogical orange half, my dearest friend Cecii gomez del pine,
less bad that this time I havebeen able to enjoy a little more
(23:40):
of your company, because rarely wesee the teacher of the south and the
teacher of the north, because ofcourse we stayed away for a while,
thousands of hugs kisses. There isan atmosphere of brotherhood, companionship, family,
and at 10 (23:52):
30 a m, comes out in the musquera,
thanking first of all the people responsiblefor the Kais Afforum. The building is
amazing. It is practically all destinedfor the edu day. This Saturday,
April 6. Its spaces, ofcourse, exquisite fully adapted and fully conditioned
(24:17):
to the eduwe day with a lotof workers making it possible. And there
comes that moment when Ingrid says thosewelcome and welcome words. And that'
s like a football stadium. Peopleare a fan of what it is We
all start applauding, winning, screaming. It' s educational madness. That
(24:40):
' s Ingrid Moskera. I remember. That' s how I remember it,
and I think we' ve alllived it. That' s something
you feel. It' s likea feeling that virtual cloister all united there
the truth. It' s aninsurmountable feeling and we' re going to
the discussion tables now. In mycase, I was the moderator of the
(25:03):
debate talk. Two digital competitions privacyand network security a table that initially had
a brief presentation by the experts thatnow the experts that I am going to
mention to you and that later postponingwould go on to a series of questions
(25:23):
and open debate. However, therewas little time for the debate, although
the debate itself was implicit in theinterventions of my colleagues and my companions who
were brilliant in room three of KaisaForum, they offered us their full knowledge.
(25:47):
David Chica, who told us aboutthe digital competition. David, who
is a divulgator you can find onthe website. David Chica, com is
without a doubt David, one ofthe most knowledgeable and knowledgeable divulgators of digital
competition. Here in Spain and wewere lucky enough to enjoy his speech and
(26:10):
a presentation that brought us outstanding.He began by talking about the reference framework
of digital competition, as well asthe TPAC model. Now I' m
going to say it in English.Now you can laugh a while tepack of
technologic, CALP, Pedagogical Countet noldLege, well that is based on three
(26:33):
areas of knowledge, pedagogical knowledge,content and technology. By combining them with
each other, seven specific knowledge isobtained. Theory of Punjabi Ra, who
would surely have pronounced wrong and MatthewJ Cochever also spoke of the model Samre
(26:56):
of Rubén Puente dura and there wasa part that I particularly liked and is
one in which he referred to theresumes in which he highlighted different criteria of
evaluation that, as they generated orproposed activities of production in different formats or
(27:18):
supports using digital and analog tools.And something. This good emphasis. Rather,
Domingo stressed that it is i noor, as many teachers are not
fulfilling what the curriculum says, usingonly analogic means. In the performance of
these evaluation criteria, technology is impliedby official curriculum. Within the law is
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the teacher who is digitally competent becausehe uses this technology in the classrooms.
Then spoke my partner and also podcaster, David Santos, who introduced different tomatics
related to digital competition and his roleas director of a nursery and primary education
center to the Bay. I didn' t say it was half an hour
(28:11):
away. I dropped something. It' s okay. He continued with David
Santos, who began his speech witha question that is very well posed,
what is most important in digitization.And while the vast majority of those who
were there gave reasons such as security, privacy, the defense of student rights,
he said the most important thing inthe digitalization process is you are us,
(28:34):
we the teachers, who are theones who have that power to transform
digitalization into something positive, to dosomething good. All of this reminded us
of the gap created in Pandemia,the digital divide that has not ended and
that is being filled in the digitalcompetition gap. Teaching words by David Santos,
(29:00):
who fully supported and I found hisspeech brilliant. I would also highlight
this quote you gave from Douglas Adams. Technology is a word that describes something
that still doesn' t work.I love it, David, I love
it not. There is also talkof the lack of devices and connection of
(29:21):
the family, of how important thefamily is when it comes to this digitization.
As the family can help the studentsa lot. As for Barbara,
what to say about Barbara, Barbara, who is that woman who doesn'
t tell me, who calls heran expert and now she' s going
to listen to him even in thesoup. Barbara talked about the management of
technologies in schools and insisted that weprotect our students, that those things that
(29:48):
were done before once we know theyare wrong. There were so many examples
in the debate, those things thatwe know is so bad. We can
' t do them again. Yeah. We cannot take a step back,
no matter how much other schools do, no matter how much other teachers do.
We can' t go back.We have to protect our students from
(30:14):
the dangers of technology. He alsoinsisted on the responsibility of the management teams
in managing the data and image ofour students, creating specific protocols in each
school. He talked and commented alot about photographs, about the image of
(30:37):
our students, about how we canno longer violate those rights that our childhood
has, to its privacy forgiveness andto its image, to its own image.
And it' s Patri Santos'turn, a patrisa of which I
insist I' ve already said iton some social network, I' ve
already said it out there that Ididn' t know he was a lawyer.
(30:59):
I missed that talk I couldn't hear because I hear them as
a good podcaster that I am,I listen to them unless it has a
lot of visual content. I havenot been able to hear any talk from
her in which she speaks about himthe legal part of data protection in educational
institutions. Then I didn' tknow his facet as a lawyer. I
(31:21):
knew Patrick Santos for his projects,for his work on other boundaries. Homeland
was awesome. Impressive really said truthslike fists. It left many things clear
to us and above all began withthat part of the regulations, the General
(31:41):
Regulation, the GDPR of two thousandsixteen, which crystallized there in two thousand
eighteen on the Organic Law of DataProtection. This is what I' m
talking about in this clitization of theDecember 5th Digital Rights Guarantee and the Organic
Education Law told us about so manythings. I wouldn' t know where
(32:07):
to start with sanctions. We putour hairs a little bit of a tip
in the form of an alert.He clarified a lot of doubts about consent.
But what I would like to highlightmost about your talk is that it
is the duty of every official,every educational officer, to know the Data
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Protection Act, to know the entirelegal framework about data protection and that,
because many teachers, many teachers,perhaps we do not know or have not
deepened. Therefore, it is importantfor us to have this knowledge. He
told us about the principle of proactiveresponsibility and I have already said in that
(32:55):
debate that after party was made ofeducational talks, that everyone should investigate a
little us about this, because itseems fundamental to me, something that I
think opened many eyes on April 6thHomeland with this speech and well, I
don' t know I think thereshould be a talk of these for all
schools once in a lifetime. Atleast I feel very grateful for having been
(33:19):
at that discussion table, learned alot and enjoyed very much the knowledge of
colleagues there too there were a lotof personalities within the digital competition. I
' m not going to mention anyonefor not making anyone special, but I
' ve already told you some andsome of the people I' ve talked
(33:40):
to. It has been an honorfor me to moderate much that there was
no moderating, because the experts werealready guiding the debate themselves. To moderate,
along with my partner Barbara and mypartner Patrik, this discussion table,
which has been very interesting, butit was not the only thing that happened
in the edu day, because inthis day we had more discussion tables,
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more workshops and there was a widerange of knowledge to explore. In fact,
in bat talk one talked about artificialintelligence. There was also a workshop
discussion of learning and fun, fromwhich everyone came out in love. A
discussion table on autism and a discussiontable on high skills. As you see,
(34:31):
a wide range of training was focusedon the people attending the event.
At this event, I think he' s the only one at the educational
level who was ingritmos that he didn' t run a previous program and then
sign up people. No, peopledon' t sign up and then she
(34:51):
elaborates the program based on the peoplewho are going to attend, because it
is a personalized event, obviously personalized, towards the n community, the virtual
cloister and the educational talks, butalways depending on the strengths she finds,
because she makes a dafo you willallow me brilliant. Woe to what event
this happens in none. At 1 (35:12):
30 the group food begins. The
meal is done in a large roomin the Kaisaforum, where we were able
to embrace and devirtualize while we wereeating. It' s that super beautiful
moment where you can talk to peoplein a relaxed way. I have been
(35:34):
lucky enough to share the food withmany friends, among whom I will highlight
my dearest CECI and there he maybe talking to a lot of people whom
I love and whom I admire todevirtualize my dear Pablo, Pablo PT,
that you have, that you haveon Twitter like Pablo PT, with whom
he can talk very little, time, what a pity. I was also
(35:59):
with Monica from the mother' ssource, sphere, mother' s creator,
sphere chatting for a while and Itook a conversation with her about outreach
and parenting, which is something I' m going to propose to follow her
example, because it has really givenme a lot to think about a conversation
(36:22):
that remains between us, because it' s a private pelin, but you
know mónica. If you hear thisin your tight schedule, you have as
always I will follow your example,that you have inspired me a lot and
that conversation I keep. I keepit also meet Rocío of the basket of
mother see A, someone who didnot expect me to be like this,
(36:44):
because I met her through a symbol, which is the symbol of his podcast,
podcast that I recommend always, becauseI do not know to see Rocío
his voice with his face at last, the truth has made me very excited.
I' ve been with a lotof people, the food new people
I' ve met. I'm sure I' ll let myself be
(37:05):
like I' m not leaving people. In fact, I am very sorry
because there are people whom I wouldlike to be talking to and who are
greeted by a reference, such asMiría portero, for example, my dear
Isaac of the news letter of thevirtual crasto, to whom I have greeted
so much of a reference, becauseI had to solve some edu day and
(37:30):
I have not been able to greetyou in conditions if I even have the
idea, because there are moments thatI have as much lived and others that
I do not remember so much,because it is a morning of many emotions.
I don' t have the ideathat my dear Jimena from the organization
didn' t even give her akiss, but I heard her as a
(37:52):
poor little problem. It' sjust that no hello Jimena, how are
you kissing? I don' tthink that' s what I' m
saying That' s how crazy itwas in the morning. Not that time
food was very special. It wasand is very special in the edu day,
because it also culminates with the groupphoto. What event has a group
(38:14):
photo where you take a photo tomake that immortalized and what group photo.
I' d rather say it wasa dynamic. It didn' t say
on the show. Don' tbe late or you' ll miss this
unique memory. Of course, whodoesn' t have the picture of the
group of your day now, notof the second your day. It has
(38:37):
been magical, a very special momentand thanks to RafaÁvila and Fernando Martí
we can have this memory, becausefor all life. The photo was taken
outside the Kanshafurun, on that panelthat they have so special and so influential,
because there we were all taking away. The photo can also talk,
(38:59):
because besides conceci with Rocío and Monica, with my dearest Monica Magando, we
have been talking about her work,the Butterfly Brigade, among other things,
because she has used it as areading club in my classroom and there we
are commenting. These are days youtake advantage of to be able to talk
(39:22):
about all this that you can't say during the year, because there
are things that are cool to talkabout in person. It' s also
time to take our group photos.I know that the photo we were with
in group three, then always missingphotos that you don' t know who
made them for you, etcetera,etcetera. Well, I hope everyone has
found themselves in this group photograph andin this group photo, I can finally
(39:45):
talk to my dearest Ana Ana Sancho, Ana Fernández Sancho, who was already
in my group on the first dayand who is for me, because she
is a source of inspiration, adick friend and someone, because it makes
me very excited to see every timeI see her I don' t know,
(40:07):
she is a very special person,a very great communicator. Then I
show it to us on the afternoonday that I really take off my hat
before Anna who came with all thoseof the law, with all her injuries,
my poor woman and who I loved, because to spend that little time
with her so that we can catchup a little bit and chat. And
(40:32):
the final part came the debate onmental health, a debate that I have
missed, because a good part ofit because I had to return the circumstances
have wanted that this year I cannotenjoy the edu full time. I haven
' t known until the last moment, but for personal reasons, because I
(40:52):
had to come and go in theday or as I planned. Well,
what' s he gonna do?At least, I have not been able
to enjoy intensely the part, ofthe previous part, say, of the
discussion table, of mental health,of the round table, rather of mental
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health, which has been bestial whenwe ingrithmos that was it has again presented
a moment as I lived it asat a concert. I' m really
telling you when Ingrid came out andshowed up like this at the group level.
To me, the sensations I hadare like those when you go to
a concert and hear that I don' t live the concerts in a quiet
(41:37):
way that I live them And tome it was the same. It was
the same thing to go out andsay welcome back, and that was like
a stadium coming up. The testimonieshave been incredible, very represented in one
of them in particular. I'm not going to talk because I'
(42:00):
m not going to talk about thingsthat are even personal and that live in
the moment. As Ingrid very wellsays, these testimonies are to live in
that moment. And if you've been, then lucky for you and
if you haven' t been,there are things I can' t tell
you anymore. It is important todivulge about these educational events, about these
(42:21):
situations, but there are things Icannot tell you, because they come within
the privacy of the event. AndI want to remember that it is a
time when a safe space is created, that safe space in which people explay
and speak from a very personal visionthat involves what is the educational world,
both teachers and people living in theeducational world, as families and good and
(42:45):
other agents within the world of education. But I can' t tell who
he was with or why. Iwill tell you in due course, but
there was a testimony that came tome because I felt very identified and the
(43:08):
rest of the day I kept ruminatingit. I kept thinking about this over
and over again, as certain circumstancesmay mark your life at this Roundtable.
Ana Sancho makes a simile that hasremained in all of us the floater.
(43:30):
For Ana Sancho and I believe thatfor all that float is the virtual cloister
that sometimes, well, prevents usfrom sinking the people that we have chosen
beyond our life a zero, thosepeople who even being in the distance,
(43:50):
support you to move forward. AnaSancho. Thanks for being my floater.
You told me that too and nowI want to tell you, in case
you hear it. Thank you forbeing that floater that makes me feel better
than that exploiter that I know Ican turn to at a complicated time.
(44:14):
And I would say and I havealready said, in fact, that more
than floater, it is already aLifesaver. The second edu day of the
virtual cloister and the educational talks hastherefore been an event, since as always
unprecedented, in which I have leftthe first and greeted people to whom I
(44:36):
had not greeted in the first day. To be ashamed, this time I
have gone along with the teacher ramonand greeted him. I said what the
hell. Don' t miss thismoment and I' ve greeted a lot
of people. I probably either greetedyou and didn' t mention you because
I missed it or if I didn' t, it' s because I
(44:58):
was embarrassed. It is already knownto read if any person like, for
example, this one of conscience thathas given me a little bit of shame
to go and greet her, butin the next time I will be taking
it out. I see that.From year to year. I still have
someone I didn' t say helloto in the first or the second.
Everything will come and nothing will senda very strong kiss to those people with
(45:22):
whom I have been able to bealone for a little while as imma,
like María José Amador, I don' t know how many people I have
been with because that mini seconds,because it did not allow us. Time
is what it is, but ithas to be, precisely because of the
people who, like me, hadto move back and forth in the day.
(45:43):
Well, what to say about thesecond day, because, like the
first, it has been an event, because without precedent the vanguard of the
educational events that we will talk aboutin the future. So, I think
they will all evolve by making morecommunity, more pineapple, more caring for
the user, for the horizontality,which is what characterizes our edu day,
(46:07):
an event that we cannot forget.And I' ve left it for the
end, because if she does,I' m gonna do it for her.
I' ve also left the coolest, most special thing for the finale.
This is not possible if it isnot for the generosity of our great
and dearest boss, Ingrid Mosquera,my God, what a brilliant mind,
(46:29):
what a mind, what a head, what a way to do things,
what creativity, what a model heis giving us. Ingrid takes all my
admiration. I admire her as aworker, as a teacher, as a
creative mind, as a divulgator.It is impossible not to admire all the
(46:50):
people of his skin. She isa unique person and thanks to her,
Only thanks to her is it possiblethis day all that has worked to create
a community, a safe space,a place to give us voice, where
to give us that loud voice,that megaphone to be able to express ourselves.
It' s amazing the good itoffers the world. Ingrid Moskera,
(47:15):
thank you, dear Ingrid, foralways making me a little hole in your
team. I am so grateful toyou for all the experiences, for all
the meaning, for all the experiences, for this second edu day, which
has been wonderful. Thank you forbeing our great floater, our Lifesaver,
(47:35):
for allowing us to connect. It' s amazing, how you' ve
moved digital to analog to real life, how you' ve been able to
make those educational talks come true inthe world. One zero. Thank you
very much, without Grid. Ifyou did not exist, you should be
(47:57):
created, because the good you doto the world is indescribable and so necessary,
so but so necessary that the worldof educational dissemination is no longer conceived
without your real presence. You're a 21st century genius, you'
re a polymata like a few.Thank you so much just for being a
(48:19):
Friend. You are amazing and sofar my particular, vision of the second
edu day of virtual cloister and educationaltalks. It has been an honor to
be there, a privilege and Iam deeply grateful to all, to all
people, to all and to allwho have made it possible. We'
(48:43):
ve got a Shito sinho podcast left, as we' d say here.
If you have stayed until the endto hear it, I also thank you,
not before inviting you to share it, of course, because it is
necessary to divulge about this type ofeducational practices. So if you' ve
heard it and you' ve likedsharing it with us, it' s
(49:08):
living and that' s how weall grow up. I say goodbye until
the next podcast. I honestly don' t know when I' m gonna
be able to do it right now. My life is very complex, very
complicated. I' ve got alot of work to do, but I
' ll let you know. Thankyou so much for being there. I
' ll send you a big kissand if there' s a third day,
(49:30):
please have it. I want tosee you there. I' d
love to say hello to you,I' d love to meet you and
weave that network of floaters all overthe world ahead. I' ll say
good- bye until I' mready. We can' t say this
until next week, because life isas it is, but until the next
time I work n b b
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