Ep 185: Erin Latham-Ponneck of Moonlight Brewing and Jon Lehre of Barrel Proof Lounge

Host Ben Rice travels to Santa Rosa, CA, to record with US craft beer legends Moonlight Brewing, with Moonlight's Chaos Management Specialist and Adult In Charge Erin Latham-Ponneck. Joining us for the conversation is comedian Jon Lehre, who is also the booker at Santa Rosa's premier comedy club Barrel Proof Lounge. Together, we'll discuss Moonlight's magnificent flagship beers, their efforts to keep to their goal of clean, beautiful beers that still break the rules in an increasingly bolder craft model; replacing hops with redwoods; and do side by sides of Bombay By Boat IPA on draft and on cask and Reality Czech versus its supercharged cousin 14 P Special. Plus! FeBREWary, which takes place every Saturday in February, which involves a free shuttle between Sonoma County mainstays Moonlight, Shady Oak, Cooperage, Iron Ox, Cuvee, and Russian River (Windsor); doing comedy on a dare; and some of Ben's worst ideas ever. Enjoy!
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Intro Music: "Functional Alcoholism" by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something. They call it functional alcoholism. But if you know
anything about Ben, he's got vision with precision microphones and.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
The tinkle love derision.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Here about to hear what beer can be. It's time
for Barley and Me.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome to Barley and Me. I'm your host, Ben Rice
As episode one o eighty five. We're here today in
Santa Rosa, California, at Moonlight Brewing, a historic brewery across America.
Let alone in California with me today my special guest,
John Lear.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm a stand up comedian and I book shows at
barrel Proof Lounge here in Santa Rosa and from Moonlight Brewing.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Aaron Latham Ponok owner, general manager and chaos management specialist.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
There we go. Now, First of all, thanks much for
doing this on like a moment's notice.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I called you at eleven forty five, twelve o.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Five whatever it was something like that, and then you're
like sure, happy to help. Thank you so much for
doing it. I was over at John's establishment. I know
it's not yours, but you helped book it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm the booker, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Barolproof Lounge in Santa Rosa comedy club and lounge and lounge.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
We also do music and yeah, things like that. And
we had today we did our comedy matinee two pm
comedy because that's when comedy's the funniest, is in the
end of the daylight exactly, for free, for free. And
we had eight very interested people in watching us today.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And two disinterested people and they were not into it.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But we also had ten very semi interesting comedians. So
it worked out.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Pretty good show. Pretty good show, Pretty good show I
had for free.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Nobody asked for their money back. I take that as
a win.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, exactly. So my first question your Aaron. It's very tough.
It's the only question I think of every time house
business here at Moonlight Brewing.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Business is going really well. Thanks for asking.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
You know, we're we're slowly sustainably working our way through California,
trying to you know, go north, go south, go east.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, not really anywhere to go west.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
No, No, you're pretty much hitting the water right away.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
And that's not where you want your beer to go.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I mean, we want our bear beer on the coast,
but not yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, there's already enough watering the beer.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Our beer is very delicious.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Staring at those yeah. Now, if we're at Moonlight Brewing,
one of the beers we have to have is Death
and Taxes. Of course, absolutely, Death and taxis a black
lagger sports beer, as some would say. Some would say that,
I don't know if you guys say.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It, we say black San Francisco style.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Okay, And what's the difference. I know, great marketing, it's well,
your white laggers are usually from Eureka.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Oh delicious.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I love how it's so it's dark. It looks dark,
but it drinks light.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
It's creamy and full bodied, kind of like an iced coffee.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, very much, an iced coffee beer. I would absolutely
drink this with coffee mixed.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It, and actually it makes an excellent float.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Put a scoop of vanilla ice cream in your Death
in Taxes, Delicious.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You might have a drinking problem, but yes, that is
definitely that sounds fun.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't think so. It's more of a scooping.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Problem, maybe alat. I love that your mouth doesn't feel
full of it after you swallow, like some darker beers
are stout and field. It's kind of coating your mouth.
And Death and Taxes is nice and clean.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
And cruise, not heavy, not like overly sweet, just you know,
just great.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's a great sipping beer as well.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
It's a great sipping beer, it's a great chugging beer.
It's a great intermediate beer. It's a great and we.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Like to say it's an all weather beer. We do
not believe the dark beer is for the winter.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Not a fair weather frame.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
No, it's there when you need it, absolutely, It's there when.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You want it, absolutely, which is why it is the
perfect name, because it's inevitable, just like Death and Taxes.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
You're gonna love this beer.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Nothing is Certain, but you'll like this beer absolutely.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
And you also have an imitator up in my neck
of the woods in Sacramento. Are you aware of it?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm not so so.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Peter Howey at Urban Roots makes a black logger called
Nothing is Certain, which is a homage.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's the Death and Taxes. I think Olivery took the recipe.
It just makes it there.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't I have to say about that that we.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Would like to think that people who make a beer
very similar to Death and Taxes.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
It is an homage.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
It is a you know, tip of the hat to
Brian and his delicious, beautiful recipe.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I think the name's a little interesting.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, I've had friends switch over to darker beers as blackloggers,
especially because of Death and Taxes, Like they're very hesitant
to drink them because they look so thick, and all
they've heard is guinness you can drink it with a
fork kind of a thing. And when I give them
Death and Taxes, like, oh, this is actually lovely. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
I work a lot of beer events in the summer,
and every once in a while I get to sneak
behind the bar and you know, do a bartending.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Shift, And I like to say to people when they go, oh,
I don't like dark beer, I'm like, don't be afraid
of the dark. It looks darker than it tastes. Like,
just taste it. If you don't like it, that's okay,
but you're gonna be pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
And I would say it's like eighty twenty people are like, oh,
that's really.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Good, and those twenty percent are just wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
So yeah, yes, yeah, wrong.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah. There's like certain things like look, I understand opinions
and like taste buds or whatever. Fore everything it is
sometimes you're just wrong and that's and that's what happens
it happens, that's all right, We're going to be we
can totally do we have If you don't like, you
are wrong and one day you'll find out, yeah, and
that's fine.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's fine, you know, Like, uh, I don't know if
you guys.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Are music people, but like for me, there's a band
that I feel like everybody has a song that that
they made a song for everybody.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
That band is my Morning Jacket. Do you guys know
my Morning Jacket?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I'm familiar.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yeah, Like I can think of the name of the
song off the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I heard it, I'd be like.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Oh, that song off the record for instance, it would
be but like there's a song for everybody, and I'm correct,
And if you find that song, you're like, Okay, actually
I do love this band.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well now I'm gonna have to go home and listen
to that.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I recommend for a casual listener. The album Z but
for me, It Still Moves is my album that.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I would say, this is how you get into it,
all right, But like there's little because they changed styles
with every record. There is a song for you.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm a I'm a music lover, so yeah, I'm always
down to discover.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I had another band that I was like this, there's
something for everybody, but I forgot what it was, so
I can't mention that now. But there's certain times that
you're wrong if you don't like them. I'm sorry. It's
not often, but this is one of those beers, Like
if you don't want you know, that's not.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Good for sales.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
So I have to be nice to those people and say, oh,
don't worry, we have something else for you.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
And you'll come back to this eventually. You're your tasteless band.
You're gonna come in here and you're gonna try your
you're you know, you're dark Check pills and you're gonna
eventually you're gonna try a pills. You're gonna get the
dark Check pills, and you're gonna come back to it.
You're like, I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
In five sixteenth check style.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Dark Blogger is an excellent gateway beer to death and taxes.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, and to get there, you start with the pilsner, Yes,
which is great.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You could start with the pilsner. That's where very many.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
People and the reality check, which you.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Also have in your tasting plight there, except it's a
very special version.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Tell me about this because because the reality check is
also one of your standby classic fears. But we've got
the fourteen p What is that?

Speaker 5 (08:29):
That is a special seasonal release never brewed Little Stronger,
you know, honestly, I just like I had thel in
my head and then like come back to me, come.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Back with me for the listeners. I do want to
point out that it is the letter.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
P correct Plato, Yes, four.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Degrees Plato, which is a brewing thing which none of
us are meant to describe at all. I don't think
that it's it's a thing at the end of the
brewing process. It explains how abb works and the thickness
of the beer, and I don't there are other beer
podcasts that will tell you what that means.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh good, that's not for us.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
That's not for us.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, it's special.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Extra Hawk version of our reality check Pilsner High Gravity.
Your moments away from tasting it, no airplane ride required,
moments away. And I actually think it's really delicious.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's yummy.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
I'll choose jath and Tax's over reality Check every time,
but that one, you know, that one was good.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I love a reality check, to be fair, I do
love all moonlight beers that I've had.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's almost as if you've been doing it for thirty years.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
As a matter of fact, we're in our thirty third year.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Ben, Look, I wanted to give you the softball, to
give the whole history. I'm I'm an approximator.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay, fine, well.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Brian Hunt founded the brewery in nineteen ninety two. He
started with Death and Taxes. Lunatic Logger and Twist of
Fate were his.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
First three beers.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Twist of Faith.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
That is our red ale.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay, it used to be called very nice e sb ish,
but nobody knew what an extra special bidder was.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
So now it's a red ale.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
And then they sets was they heard? They were bitter,
like not interesting. Yeah, go fuck yourself, Brian, we don't
want bitter.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
We don't know that.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
We've had the whole campaign bitter beer face Old Milwaukee
told us we don't like that, so change it up.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
But Twist of Fate is actually very delicious.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, I've had Twist of Fad before, and yeah it
is very It's not bitter at all.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, it's a nice, nice red ale.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Absolutely American amber.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
All right, I've just seen esp listened ad but it's
esb Ish so.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
You could bump it out right, sure, if you call
it whatever you want. We're not very strict. We're not
good rule followers here now.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
In uh, the American craft Beer seen of the nineties
there was very strict rules. But the American Craft Beer
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
No, oh, I there's definitely still lots of rules.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm just saying we don't follow the rules.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
But like I think most people agree that, like, yeah,
they're all important rules. Yeah, like don't throw things that
shouldn't be in there in there absolutely, but the experience
of what.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Shouldn't be in there has changed, that's true.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Now you can get away with a few more interesting
fun ingredients.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
One one such beer would be working for Tips, which
we brew with redwood branches that we harvest ourselves out
in like occidental area.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
That one's also delicious. We did not make it this year.
I was very sad. Hopefully last year. Hopefully we make
it this year.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Usually you don't have that as like a note to beer,
like my sense redood a redwood little bottle of redwood
in here.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
No, no, no, Well, so Brian's take on that is beers
have always been brewed with what you have around They
have not always.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Been brewed with hops. They've been brewed with whatever was available.
There are lots of places where beers were brewed with
spruce and.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I don't know ferries.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Sure, And he.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Wanted to make something like that, and he said, what
do we have around here?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Lots of redwoods.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
So in the late spring, like May ish, he goes
out when the first like shoots are coming off the branches,
and we go out and we cut those short fresh
parts of the branches and stick them in the kettle. Yeah,
it's a it's a fun process to be a participant in.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, Now, what do you think as far as like
what it provides flavor and body wise in.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
That particular beer, the redwood, So there's no hops in
that beer, or there's the legally required amount of hops
in that beer.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
We call it a gruith, which is a you know,
hop free beer.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
And so the the redwood is going to give it
that the bitter taste that you would get normally from hops.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Redwoods are pretty bitter, that's true.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
But I'll tell you fresh. I have some lovely pictures.
If this was a TV show i'd show you, you know,
pictures of Brian with the.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Whole She's showing us.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Now everybody, you're quite jealous pictures.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
If you eat just like just barely the tip of
a fresh redwood branch, it can be really delicious. If
it's not fresh, it makes your whole mouth like dry
up and you don't want to die.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
So we're very particular. We go around tasting.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I've gone with Brian a couple of years, literally driving around,
pulling over tasting redwood branches on the side of the road.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Just as the reminder kids don't do drugs.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, it's splinters.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
These are These are professionals who are going out and
trying nibbling on foliage, which you do as part of
your job, which I find.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's not actually on my title, but I will add that.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I think you should. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Some people are like, we're gonna taste the beer from
the barrel, Like, we're gonna go right to the tree right,
figure out what we might nibble on the barrel as well.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
We're just gonna chomp on all kinds of wood today.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Delicious.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, put it on wood, that's the important.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
So you guys have tasting.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
We do light and so, Uh, John, how do you
feel about cask beers? Have you had a cask beer?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm not sure I've had enough beers in my life.
I assume that I have. But what's so special about
a cast beer.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Cask beer is it's a different I'm how am I
saying it? Different pump.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
So it's not kept in the cold box, it's not
driven through the tubes with CO two.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's just in this little refrigerator.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's kept at the temperature that you would have kept
it in the basement in old English pub like.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
They didn't have refrigeration.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
You just kept it down in the basement and it
was kind of you know, cold room temperature. And so
that's sort of the essence the cask, as I understand.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
It, within the cast and so it's not floating around everywhere.
It's just connected.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It's uh, it is served out of a cask, out
of a cast which used to be wood and now
you can have aluminum ones, but it's called real ale.
It's naturally carbonated. It's not force carbonated like the task
would have and uh, no big deal.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
A thing.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I was helping with Sacramento Beer Week last last.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Year and like we're trying to figure out how to
like reinvigorate beer festivals because with how craft beer has boomed,
beer festivals aren't exciting.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
It used to be.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, I like, let's bring back the knowledge part. So
my job was to get people excited about cask beers,
which is also.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Known as I just want to know if it tastes good.
I'm more of a don't don't.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Here's the thing. So what it's going to do for
an I p A, which is what we have a
bombay I p A. It's gonna round off that bitter
heart hop flavor.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm a rounding bitterness, yes, but for other ales usually
you go to therapy for that.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, it'll it'll kick up, like if we put the
black logger and it would kick up the malt flavor in.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
That, although I don't really they do cast laggers usually
as far as I know, we only do ales in
our Yes, like.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
That, you're inventing a whole new area of Europe that
could happen cast it happens it was brought up here,
the birthplace.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I'm trying to hazys because I feel like they would
be really good.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, we don't do that.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Here nobody makes those ben But I like how you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think cask i pas are a terrible idea, but
we should try one because I want a boldtop flavor
and I feel like they round them.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
This is a Bomber's Boy by Boat.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
That is our third of our three flagship beers, the
first two being Death and Taxes and Reality Checked.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
All Right, see what this is like on cask.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It could be a little bit warmer, right is. Room ten.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Has a very robust flavor to it, for sure. Now
that is is that technically an i p A.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yes, that technically an I PA sat beer.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
It just gets pulled off the chank earlier than the rest.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Of the beer, so lower.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
So what I've noticed with a lot of i pas
is that they taste very much of a grapefruit sort
of a taste to it. This does not as much.
This is like you said, it sort of rounds off
that harder edge of that an I p A can have.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
We classify this one as a West Coast i.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
PA, so wimpy and shot at all like the rest
of the United States. If it's a very liberal drink.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
We should do a bomb Baby by Boat comparison. Let's
do it.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
I like cold beer, so I'm always gonna choose, you know,
the one.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
On the drafts. Can we can we get one on
draft for drawn to Suku and compare the versus the Norman,
So we.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Can, but we can see if it really but what
we're doing in the papers the edges off effectively.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
John, you're uh. First of all, I want to point
out that both of the people here have luscious locks.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Long long hair, Thank you COVID. And uh, yeah, that
was what I did. What is your hair? What was
down to the middle of my back and now kind
of to my should.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Because you had a ponytail right long? Yeah, I could.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
It was right.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
It wasn't like Phil Johnson long, but it was still
pretty long.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
And for Phil, people who don't know Phil Johnson is
an eighties rocker who's here today performing stand up comedy.
That's that's Phil. He's got a silk shirt ready to
it's always a red silk shirt, red silk talented musician.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
And this is.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Gonna be straight up I p a right in your face,
not cast podcast word.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
All right, so we're gonna try this.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Comparison.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
That's yeah, I'd say it's a little bit more tangy.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I think it's a pretty different beers.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, it's a different beer for sure. Comparison wise, we're
just two fisting beers right now, everybody. I hope, I
hope you appreciate putting.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I was trying to get John to give me his
hair conditioning routine. He's like, let's just drink these beers.
I tried.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I tried my hair, and I just pour beer on that.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Actually, beer is an excellent.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Excellent Yeah, especially because I'm drunk in the shower.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
But have two uses.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Make your hair all shiny and beautiful, and it does.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Make good drunks want to kiss you. I don't recommend
that part. Actually, that's what I'm doing wrong.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I got to rinse it out before you get out
of the shower.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I learned something new every day, at least before you
get into a car.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
That's I don't want to get pulled get into a cart, Yes, don't.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Want to get pulled over. S freaking of a brewery.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's why most cops are bald is they don't want
to have to deal with that beer smell from conditioning
their hair always. They don't want to leave DNA evidence
everywhere they go. No longer hair at all.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
It.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, if you're wondering what's the secret to get away
with it, it's, uh, double gloves, one glove scare that
you've got, you've got finger your tips on that once
you put a second one.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I want to know why you know that?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Then somebody every extra episode no no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Look, sometimes you wonder if I was to do it,
Oh J Simpson, what would I double gloves?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
If both gloves?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
If the first club doesn't fit, the second was definitely
not gonna right, so we're out anyway. That's just the thought.
I don't know if it's true, but I feel like
it's true. That a secret, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
You used to just know that. On Colombo they got
the guy guilty because his fingerprints were on the bullets. Right,
So you want to put the glove on.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
That's your tips on the glove, right, So you want
to put a second layer of glove on after so
there's no more finger right, And then you want to
glove on just for fundsies, just to make your handbook bigger,
just to make sure your handbooks bigger.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
We're looking for a guy with really big hands.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I think that is a solid plan. For getting away
with murder.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
That you shave your head ball first.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, this has suddenly become a murder podcast and it's
gonna be huge.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Look I've told you, Yeah, I tried to cross cross.
We're trying to cross from without without blowing up.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, we'll get into some news and maybe some football
reviews later. Yeah, we're gonna hit all areas on football,
well commercials.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
All right, I can't tell what's going on in the game.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
No one cares about golf, can we be honest?

Speaker 4 (22:46):
No one cares.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I watched the.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
County. I forgot where we were.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Sorry, a lot of people will hear care about golf.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
County is big on golf.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah, I forgot where I was and I'm so sorry.
All right, so.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Look I took a swing, I went into the rough.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I tried to tee it up for you, and I'm sorry.
Can you give me a mulligan on this one?

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Look at all the golf terms, you know this is exciting.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
I watched Happy Gilmour so much as a kid, and
so I know a few terms.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
How America knows golf. Also, I'm so good at we golf.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
So if anybody's mad about it, let's go one on one,
me and you.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
We golf. I haven't played in ten years.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I will kick your ass.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
As long as it's not frisbee golf frisbee. Those guys
are mad at me.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Why are they mad at you?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, I was walking my dog through the local park
and this guy was walking towards me, and he had
a backpack on, he had a rolling suitcase. He looked
pretty rough, and so I felt, you know, like anybody,
my heart went out to him and I was like,
oh hey, man, here's ten dollars. And he said, oh no, no, no, no, no,
I'm I'm a disc golfer. And I felt so bad.

(24:14):
I felt so bad, and I said, I am so sorry.
Here's twenty dollars. I hope you get your life back together.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
He's like, maybe you can play big Boy golf one day.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
That was like, I'm a disc golfer, a disc golfer. Correct, Yes,
I did insult you with my money. Yeah, I love
I just one point. I do love disc golf. And
please don't write me nasty letters anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, and I will since we're talking about disc golfs.
I have a small baby. It's not true it's a
giant baby I have. It's a beautiful baby. I was
called a baby baby, which is if you don't know
a baby baby, what that means is big ass baby.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Y'all, baby, I've seen your baby.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
So she was quite large, so she looked she is
the size of a five year old and is three.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Ten pounds when he was born.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, so they eat the estimated size livers.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
The estimated height is six six to six ten.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
So she'd get along with my boys.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah. So there's a comedian in San Francisco. You probably
know him. His name is Andrew Holme.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I know Andrew.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
He coaches baseball, but his real passion is disc golf.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Shout out to Andrew. Don't beat me up Andrew.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Who is also I have a story about Andrew.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
First time I saw him doing stand up, I'm like,
this guy has it anyway. So he's like, hey, I've
I've met your child because he did meet our child
one time. And he's like, I don't want to be
like presumptuous, but she's a pretty big kid.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
And I play a lot of disc golf.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And one of the things that people don't talk about
is that armed and like wingspan is a very important.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Part of disc golf. You gotta have big arm.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, So if you want, I can teach your kid
disc golf from a young age.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I will coach her.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
And I think she could be a millionaire by the
time she's like twenty five, if you let.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Me his coach. Andrew millionaire. He's not, but he's short,
but he knows how to make one.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
He's five, he's like, what five, nine, five, ten?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I think you're being generous.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, right, So he's he's got his eyes on the prize.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
You know, he's next.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Generation that all the other Verry comics are jealous that
we're talking to this much about Andrew Holmer. I just
want to point that out.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Andrew Homekan. The first time I saw Andrew Hogrim was
that this pizza mic where you had to spin the
wheel and there's challenges.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Do you remember this. I think Dash Kreekowski ran it.
Oh Dash, Yeah, So you had.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
To spin it and there were challenges, or you just
do a set, but it depends the where landed. So
like the challenges were like you got to run around
the block and then do your set in an industrial
area so it's a long long block, or like it's
a pizza place, so like take a shot of ranch
dressing and then do your said his was the uh,

(27:04):
it's uh. It took away all of your senses. So
there's blinding glasses and there's sound canceling headphones.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
You know, when he gets light, he.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Has to he has to feel that out too. He
has to know all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
He has to know my my own timing, how the
audience might respond, all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
And so he was telling his.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Jokes and his timing was exactly with what the room
was like responding, that's pretty good he was. So it
was like he nailed that challenge. Like this guy has it,
and I'm not quite.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Sure what it is. Nobody does timing. It seems like
he has.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Reliability, excellent hair, excellent hair.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Also almost Mark Small's level, but not quite, not quite,
not quite.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Mark Smalls is a different strata.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
He feels like he's not trying, but he's got great hair.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, it's effortless.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, you know Mark Small's I do not.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But we're having a conversation about all these people. You
have no idea who they are. What's great is most
of those people don't know who I am either.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, as I have way up here in the North Bay,
and I just kind of jaunt down to San Francisco
every now and then and they pretend they know me,
but they don't.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
And Mark Smalls worked at a brewery, but I forget
which one.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah he did. He was like a surfer. And I
talked to the owner. He's like, oh yeah, he cleaned
up every every shifty words. He just like I builds
out everybody, but any one of it that's more of
a sweeping mopping each other.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
The important thing is disc golf.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Disc golf better than real support of kings.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
I said it right now. Anyway, I like.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Any sport that you can drink beer while doing so
I'm fully on board with disc golf.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
That's I think most sports you can do while drinking.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Not all Football's right, all the stuff to dribble around.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
The running sports are or.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
No, exactly bowling absolutely golf.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
One hund is right in the cart, they give you
a whole You just get a whole case in there,
a whole cart to d UI with.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, I don't think you get a d u. I
I'm a golf person. The only place.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Drink bulligans, NonStop bulligans for du on the It's the
one phrase I know. I'm going to come back to
it every time. Bob Mulligan, the inventor of the Mulligan.
It's like, I aced that one. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
That's uh, Birdie is actually it's two beers that avoided
d uy Beard Beardy.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I feel like you're gonna cut this part.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I lost us.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Don't let me talk. I'm well, we.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Still got one more beer, one more beer.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
That one is incriminating evidence.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Like like what I just said in criminating evidence, what
a brilliant that's amazing talking about DUIs And here we
have incriminating evidence, incriminating.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Newer beers.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
We've made it a couple of times, and so.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
We're like test gerbils. All right, that's fine. Here's again,
here's again. See that's more like I p a yeah,
very citrus, very a little bit, a little bit piny. Yeah,
there's enough grapefruit in that that is squirted in my eye.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
So we could throw some spruce in that.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
You know, what I think would help is if you
stirred it with like the bell of a fir tree.
Maybe I think that would help. It's nice, it's clean.
I mean, it doesn't happen that it doesn't have that
aftertaste that a lot of I p as have this
one all of That's the one thing I would say
about almost every Moonlight beer is that it leaves a

(30:52):
clean finish.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
We are big on clean, delicious beers.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
That's definitely Brian's you know ethos is like he wanted
to make beers that.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
He wanted to drink.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Damn the you know trends, and who cares what everybody
else wants.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm just going to make a beer that I want
to drink.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
And you know, we've made lots of beers since Brian
stopped being the like you knowise. No, he could still
be the face, but he's less so on the back
end in production.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I'll to say the way you described that right now,
I'm kind of aroused a little bit.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
But he we we stick.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
To his values, the values of Moonlight. Although there's been
a lot of change over the last few years, we
still we still are who we've always been.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
We're still doing it the Moonlight way.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
It's just you know, with some some gentle changes change.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I don't I don't really care if he's that much,
but that is lovely and I would actually drink. If
we were having like an I p A tasting or someone,
I would recommend that for sure. Interesting, really nice.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
I actually like our double I p as more than
our regular.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'm also.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, it's eight point it tastes like a five. Agreed.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, it's super easy drinking.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I really.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
We don't have it on tap right now, but we
make a beer called we make a pale ale called
Calcutta by Clipper, and make a double called double Calcutta By.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
We have it. We also have one called.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I don't know if I can drink a beer called Dinghy.
It feels inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's d I M G h FI or something.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
There's an h in there.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, it's I love that you think I know how
to spell, especially after we've been drinking beers.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
That's not gonna help.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, it's one of those those light I p as.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Why am I session session sessionable?

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah sure, Yeah, we're talking to the person that runs
the business side of the business.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, don't worry, We're not gonna get too wonky.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I'm just saying, if you're gonna have a Dinghy, it
feels like it's a session ipe.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
That's why you don't let me make the decisions.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'm glad you liked the incriminating it.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I do.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
I think that's I think it's great.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Comes in a beautiful purple can if you find it
in your local grocery stores.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
We're holding it up to the camera that we don't
have right now. You can see how lovely it is.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I can take pictures. I'll forget, but I.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Could could just not a visual medium.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Then I'm not Look, I have learned visual medium in me.
Are not friends?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Having seen you in person, I would agree.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Well, look at my I'm going to tell me that
you saw one beautiful picture on there. It doesn't that
was one of your babies. Well, then that's just beautiful.
That's not beautiful. So that worked. That was a fluke.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
That's all, Becky, that's all.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
That's all, Becky.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Here's what he Here's what my baby got for me.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Height right, definitely, thin eyebrows and a very unfortunate calic location.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's all she got from me. Everything else that's Becky.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Everything else is beggar.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
She's gorgeous. She's a gorgeous paper.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
But yeah, I'll show you.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I believe I my gift to my kids. I believe
is therapy. That's that's pretty much what I've dream Yeah,
definitely a lot of therapy.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
But you're paying for it, right, Not really. My wife's
a lawyer, okay, so you worked your way out of it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
So I don't make any money whatsoever. I'm doing podcasts
on Sundays in the middle of the afternoon. This is
where my career is.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
You're getting to drink beer, I know, which.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Is exactly why I be here also hosting a free
two pm comedy show, and I'm hosting an open mic
at seven o'clock tonight at Hot Monkey Sea, So I
have run I currently run three open mics because I'm
killing it.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Those are the money makers.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I heard a right the.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
And also here at Moon like you guys have a.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Comedy we actually do have a comedy night here every
last Friday of every month, and we have one coming
up this month on the thirty first.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, and there's a.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Name of a comedy crew that does it.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I heard as I searched desperately.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
For the name that I forgot, Josh, I don't know
Stage Rats? Is that is that?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
This group? I can't remember? Yes, I know it's not
I know it's not seven o seven stand up, but
I know it's not comedy.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I the comics on my website.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Stage rats is correct.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
How many points does he get.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
With Brian O'Halloran, Josh and mace A Dian Yeah, last
Friday of the month.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Last Friday of the month. They they tend to be
pretty well attended events.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Here except for the one that I did, Yes, yeah,
I mean yes, the.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
One where we.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah. Uh so, John, do you have this issue when
I do shows in Sacramento? When I do them, they're
usually poorly attended. And I call that the Ben Rice effect.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Now do you think I might have the John Lear
effect here?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Okay, okay, great?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, yeah, but that's only for shows in Cinema County.
Outside of Cinema County, yeah, I'm a huge draw. Hint, hint,
everybody listening that might be booking shows, but my own
outside of Yeah, nobody respects you in your own hometown.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
I think.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Let me tell you this podcast listenership, it's okay when
I guess in a podcast, crush it.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Do big numbers.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Put me on your podcast, Put me on your Bay
Area shows.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I'll do them if I have time.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's secret minorities or somebody that I'm.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Not a secret minority. I'm very overtly white.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I feel like you're a minority adjacent.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Well, yes, John, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
I did as the of the two of us, I'm
still whiter than you, so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Well, here's the thing I saw twenty three in me
for my aunt one time at a funeral. You know
how you just pretting your twenty three and met your
funeral from like you do. Of course, so she's like
bragging right as you're. So she was. She was ninety
eight percent Eastern Norwegian.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Wow, two percent West. That's white ding ding. She definitely wins.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Wow, that's that's like I lost no snows farm one time.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
That's polar bear white. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah. Now, fortunately my dad is a New England but
so I'm once they blended.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
So that's is good because you don't want to interbreed
too much. There, that's yeah, that was that was rough.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, you know, so you know the Nordics they're known
for raping and pillaging and traveling around. My parents like,
I'll just hang out here, we'll fuck each other. That's
my family's that's.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I think that's a better way to go. I think
at home, no risks rape each other. Yeah, you know
that's what is probably what happened. Now it's illegal to
do that, but before it was. And now, John, we
were trying to get to your hair care. Oh the
hair thing? Hair care?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, how do you do it? What's your regimen?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I put on my hair everything that my hairstylist tells
me to put on my hair. Okay, like, well that's
all I did. Do you know what she's doing? She
makes me buy these things and then I put it on.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Do you know what they are?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I have no idea? Okay, now in the in the
sense that I I I have never had long hair before,
so I have no hair just with coke.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
So really, since.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
We weren't going out, I didn't want to get a haircut.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
So you've been not aware you had beautiful hair for
like forty years.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I thought I had the worst hair ever because it
would just grow up into this weird, bushy sort of
like like these things like the microphone, the weights, as
if the guy was gorgeous hair gets there before me.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That's John.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I know he's very flirty. It's true, it's nice.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
So I just brought you guys. Another thing to taste.
This is our Lunatic Lagger.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Lunatic Lagger, another one of our old school Brian beers.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I like that one a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
This feels like a summer day, kind of a nice.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
And multi and yeah and like Chris, easy to drink.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah, like non offensive.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's that's kind of our vibe.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yea true.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Not a lot of offensive beers.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I mean we're okay being offensive, but our beers we liked.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
The beers are left out of it.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Our beers are gentlemen and ladies.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Please treat their respects that they deserve, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
But everybody else like, yeah, I feel like this is
just like a nice beautiful spring day or summer day
or nice and hot apps will be very like I
want to wash my car while drinking this.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
We have a couple of beers like that.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
We make a beer called Side of Rice that has
definitely been described as lawnmower beer.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, I've never heard that phrase. What is lawnmower beer?

Speaker 5 (40:12):
You know you can mow your lawn on a hot
day while drinking it. Side of Rice all right, it's
a rice slogger.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, like on a writing mower or I think.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That would be better. Yeah, that's in my head.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
It's because it's a big property and you're driving, well,
you're drinking.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, that's what's.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Important to wearing cowboy hat and you know, yeah, drinking
your beer.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
You're drinking your beer, you're riding your John Deer, you're
writing your Deer John's you know.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I take that personal.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, that one's one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Yeah, I love Then.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I think about a loggers. You only know when.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
You're drinking a bad one. That's where I find, like,
I know it's bad. That's the ideal, just like classic
clean lagger. It's only know when it's bad. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
And I find that, you know, the bottled ones like
Pacifico or you know, Corona or something like that, there's
just not a good taste afterwards.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
It's much like like most of my life afterwards.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I mean, if you're on the beach in.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Mexico, I don't really I'm just trying to sell your product.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, that's don't I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Don't question my way of pushing your product.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Well, our next lagger that's coming out is the one
I spoke about earlier, the nine and five sixteenths check
style dark lagger, So that's, you know, lighter than death
and taxes, darker than reality check.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It's so precise ninety.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
That is the starting gravity of that beer.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Not the final gravity which will be starting.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I don't understand what gravity has to do with it
is either it is a measure of.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
The maltspill and what it will turn into an ABV.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Once you're done with your product, you can call the gravity. Yeah,
there's original gravity and there's final gravity. It's original is
what you're starting with. The final is what you end with,
and it gives you an idea of your ABV.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I wanted to point out that I only went to
junior college and I don't think I can.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Follow a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Well.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I mean, you just you understand what the numbers mean
when you grew. The higher the number, yes, the higher
the ABV that I get, the alcohol by volume that
I understand goes up, okay.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
And then the smaller number goes down.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I feel like all your listeners have lost complete respect
for me, Like this guy has no idea what he's
talking about.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
No one had respect to begin with.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
John, good point. Thank you about speaking of.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Not respecting you John. How long you've you been doing
stand up comedy? I started about nine years ago and
your age at that point was forty eight. Yeah, so yeah,
no one has respect for you a dare.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
But at least I'm you know, I'm not somebody who
like started young, gave up and I was an I'm
a never was great. I'm not a has been. Yeah,
I'm a never was on a air. What was the
dare to do stand up coming? But who dared to
you and what was the reasoning behind it. I was
involved with Toastmasters public speaking and a friend of mine, Nora,

(43:22):
she dared me to do stand up because I always
talked about it and I've always been humorous, and she said, well,
put your money where your mouth is, come do this
open mic.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
And uh, you found out there is no money where
your mouth.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Which was fine. I didn't need the money, it was fine.
I I was just looking for a hobby at the time,
and it slowly grew into more of a not great career.
So a thing you do it just yeah, as uh,
you know, like that's grown into me. I I I

(43:59):
was the talent director for the San Francisco Comedy Competition
one year. I've been able to do casinos and shows
all over California, and it's it's given me this whole
kind of second wind in life of different stuff, to
be able to go stuff like this. You know that
I would not have been able to be a part
of back when I was just being a graphic designer.

(44:20):
So it's it's really opened up. As far as midlife
crisises go. This one's pretty good, pretty good, This one's
pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah yeah, I mean it dates,
you know, like riding a motorcycle or dating a twenty
six year old because then my wife would make it
an end of life crisis.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Well, my lawyer, so she's obviously supporting you, right.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
But that that just happened within the past four years
five years, so so she went back to school and
behaving a lawyer, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
So like people like, oh, you married a lawyer, I'm like, no, no, no,
I built a lawyer.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah I support Yeah, I put through law school is
what I did.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So you got to build them up. Give me some credit, Like, no,
stand behind your woman and make her earn money. I
think that's my lesson.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
That's the secret, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
You find a strong, powerful, smart, woman with daddy issues
and you support them, support until they support you for
exactly the trick and then yeah, I know, then you
never have to work again. So but then sometimes you do,
until you end up just drinking day, drinking on a Sunday. Okay,

(45:26):
there we go. Technical difficulties.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
We moved one inch too far in. That was the
problem we got too We got too.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Excited about doing this podcast and we blocked off the
staff from doing their jobs. Sorry, sorry, Stad, Sorry James, James.
We apologize and we appreciate you, and we'll build a
memorial to the three seconds he said.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
It was like fifteen seconds. That was a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
That was.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
We've got a bet a time. Good filler there. Now
he's gonna come back.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
He's coming right back, James. Again.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
For calipers. We do this all for calibers.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Calipers are important. Never interfere with the staff at work.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Look, and he's the maintenance guy, so definitely don't get
no for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, be nice of that guy.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I mean he keeps it all together.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, I mean that's what the brewing mostly is, keeping
the business.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Together with Jack tape and.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Like we threw some hops and malt into there.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
But that was like two hours, and then we have
like six more hours to make sure no one dies here,
and then we can everything functions properly.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
We function properly all the time. We don't think any rules.
Everything is by the book.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
No ocean.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, in case Osha is listening at the moment, this
is the most immaculate, amazing facility I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
The rules.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
There's so many checklists that have been checked.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, check him every time I come in.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
I'm walking through, I look, ye, I spot, then I go.
I can't record here. That's why I haven't seen an
episode in six months. It's because I'm so picky. It's
not because I'm busy or tired.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
It's because I'm picky. That's where it is.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
It's not all that id the brewery that met all
of your criteriadliness.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
And who knew it would be. I would call him
at noon and we'd be recording it.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
For that is amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
And they've matched and they matched up.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
And I had to borrow a car because my husband
didn't get home in time and I had car here.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Oh no, it's terrible at time management. Okay, So now
I've put so many people out. I've got to carry
this weight.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
It's fine. It's just you know, adhd. You know, you say, hey,
it's Tom thirty. You gotta go because I need we
share a car.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
You need to you need to go do your thing
so you can come back so I can do my thing.
And then at three point fifty you call him and
he's like, okay, well I'm just leaving the place that
I was and.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I'm like, and it's forty five minutes away.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
So luckily I live up the street from my mom,
down the street and around the corner.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
So I actually live a mile that way, so I
could have walked here. I have sometimes so well, you
can walk out of here.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
That's a nice part.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
These are pretty good. That's not true because you have
to go to sebast I do have to drive this
bask Do you.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Need a ride?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Do you need to ride? I've got a car.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I'll drive you there and you can then I can
leave my car here. Yeah, rap rof a way back.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
It's all five.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Where How is the HOWK Punk Sunday Night open Mic?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
It's great. It's the longest running open mic in Pnoma
County for a comedy.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
How long is that?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's over ten years. I've been running it for about
eight with Jefferson Mars.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Who'd you steal it from?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I mean take it over from a guy named Adam.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
He just kind of wanted to give it up, and
I was like, I'll do it, you know. And I
hadn't been doing comedy that long. I'd never run a
show before. So I put it out into the universe, like, hey,
who wants to help me do this? And Jefferson was like, damn,
I loan it, and yeah, We've been running for eight
years and it's great.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I've got a.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Number of comedians who their first time at an open
mic was our MinC and now like Sue Alfieri and
Marin she was one of one of her first things
was was with us. And so I get to see
all of these younger comics get started and try out

(49:37):
comedy and just see them get better and get better.
Sometimes they quit, sometimes they move on, but it was
the stick around. It's so great to see them doing well.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Is that in the beer garden or in the abbey?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
It's in the abbey. Yeah, we swear wait too much
for the beer garden.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Yeah, it's a family area.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, we can't under the tent is not gonna work
for the many, many f bombs that we're gonna drop.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, it depends on the parents. I'm pretty Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
We've had some parents who have brought in their kids
and we warned them. We're like, I'm not gonna censor
in my comedians, so you need to be aware of that.
And invariably they say something like, oh, my kids heard
it all, and then halfway through the show they'd leave
and they're like, oh my god, that was filthy and foul,
and I'm like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
But also, you brought your I warned you.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I did warn you.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I actually had a seven year old do her first set.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Oh nice.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
She wanted away from her parents and was buried in
the show, and I'm like, hey, do you want to
come say a few words hilarious?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
That would have been my son. He loved both, actually
both of my sons. At around eight or nine, which
is where my youngest is now. He loves to tell jokes.
He's really good at like the dad jokes, you know,
really we know, the really funny jokes. Yeah, yeah, I
wish I could think of one right now, but.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
No, need you know, everybody out there is picturing their
favorite dad.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Joke, your favorite dad joke, and.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
That kid telling it dropping it right now?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Bam.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yeah now, Joe, I haven't told you this to your
face or be a messenger?

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Was that?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
But I think you're great?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Oh, thank you man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I think I want you to know that the people
that see you when I book you for my shows
are always like, hey, why don't you bring more people
like him around? Like, because there aren't people like him around.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's the hair.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
It's the hair, but it's also the jokes.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Well, and I thought, uh, yeah, I just I always
think that you're underrated in the scene.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
And am I supposed to be aroused right now? Because
this is.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
No I mean, yeah, okay, I can't do it. Have
you seen him?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
He's like, that's right where surrounded by many many people.
This would be an uncomfortable situation.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, but look over there, there's nobody over there.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Through this week, you go through the small plastic shield
we pretended we needed warehouse stays in the absolutely right.
That's true of every porn movie I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, for sure, right, just go around that corner and
exactly anything can happen, you know. But the important thing is, Jean,
I'm so sorry that you're booking a comedy club now.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I am too thank you because because you booked great
shows out in Sacramento. And I don't know how many
people on this podcast know that you do that, but
you booked amazing shows. And I've always every show that
I've done with you has always been a fantastic There
was that one with that we did outside that was

(52:35):
so hot that they had all the misters on everything.
That one was a little and even that one was
a great show that I was like that the tracks.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Yeah, like you have done my worst show and done well.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, I had a great time.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah last time.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's very fun.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I noticed that you haven't brought me out in a while.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Well, John, I my rotation is about three to four
years since, right, because there's so many comics.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
There's so many great comics out there, and you can't
just love the baby.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
The one thing you can't do in comedy is come
back with the same people over and over again. That's
a death nail. That's a death nll. A great to
a show.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's what I keep trying to tell all the people
who are sending me messages like you were just here.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Yeah, get out of my idms.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, you have not written new material yet. Do not
come back until you do.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Get out. Yeah yeah, yeah, I remember I dropped. I
was doing a class about comedy. I'm like, if you're
gonna run a show, you better have enough comics in
your wheelhouse to not book a new lineup for two years.
They're like, what, Like, that's honestly, that's how you succeed
if you're bringing the same show back in six months.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, it's this show is six months. It's the exact
opposite of brewing beer. Like with beer, you want to
find just the right thing if you want to repeat it,
and you want to have it great, and you you know,
throwing fresh ones right exactly. You want to keep the
fresh ones in, but yourn every one in there. Yeah.
The consistency is important for you guys, yes, yeah. And

(54:05):
for us, it's like we got to keep it fresh,
got to keep it moving, you know, just try to
keep it so people don't try to punch us on stage.
I think that's the main thing now that's starting tomorrow. Yeah,
starting tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
That's kind of the haven't actually been to a barrel
Proof yet. I'll have to come on down.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Heck.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, we got some really fun shows, some really great people.
And we don't do just comedy. We do music as well.
So there's always something going on there.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
And it's in the space that was where else.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
It's in the Brickyard Center, but on the Mendocino Avenue side,
you know, with Seventh Street who just put in a
place of the Coop Ridge just put in a place
over there.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, that's we're very happy for them.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, but they're doing fun.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
That was genuine that it seems.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Sorry, I felt like.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
We were very happy because.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I I'm a better better person than I I could
never tell.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
You know, I won't share.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
I won't share the breweries that I'm not in love with,
but I would say the brewing industry as a whole,
we're pretty tight knit, like circle folks, and here in
Santa Rosa specifically, like there's so many.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Breweries, so many I do feel that Coopbridge and go.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Hey man, we need a you know, a pound of
such and such, and like, yeah, we're all we're all
friends here.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Well, no, actually I saw one of the bartenders from
Coper Oh.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of crossover in the in the
tap rooms for sure, and.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
We close earlier than Coopbridge does. So like our our
folks will go over there, particularly they're really busy. They'll
be like CoA Moonlight.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
We're actually doing a beer shuttle. So February is fab
Brewery in Santa Rosa and I organize a beer shuttle
that you take on Saturdays. It's free to the customer.
It stops at Shady.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Oak downtown downtown.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Uh, Coopbridge, Iron Knox, who are both like so this
this Coopbridge over here downtown our only downtown location. Smart
Train is one of our stops that people can ride
the train up from the Bay Area. Yes, they actually
are one of our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
So that's really neat. And then Coopbridge.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
Iron Knox, US Moonlight Brewing and Couvet in Windsor and
Russian River Brewing in Windsor as well.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Which is I don't think enough people know about.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Yeah, if you haven't heard about Russian River, the yard
of them they have, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
You've probably seen them on tap somewhere.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Maybe there's a time when you like it.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Was hard to find because they were so small.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Yeah, well they're still they still are a local brewery.
And I appreciate that they do this shuttle with us
because you know, it's good for everyone. It's good for
people that want to go to Russian River and don't
know anything about us, get on the shuttle and then
eventually they may come to us.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Hopefully they're not too drunk, they enjoy our peers.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Is great.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
This is why I feel like group pubs and breweries
are such a great partner for comedians because we feel
the same way. Like I am happy to promote stage
Rats that they're doing a show here yea or Comedy
I r L which shows over at iron Ox. Okay,
you know, just because we're doing stuff at barrelfrud.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
We and Grindhouse in Pedaluma.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
And Grindhouse in Pedaluma with Mike Nordstrom. I think is
evolved with that, and we just want everybody to do well.
You know, if we all do this thing well, more
people will love it and we'll all do better because
of it. And I feel like for us, we've.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Done it in a couple of years now, and you know,
for the most part, it's it's been very successful for us,
and people keep coming back, so I guess it's successful
for them. And everyone gets to try something they haven't
had before, right, so.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Right, it's a lot like the swinger community. If you
just want to throw your keys into the bowl exactly,
you can be like, hey, I haven't had that before.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Super fun, you know, fun story about swingers.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
I used to do an open micro Sacramento at a
swingers bar. It's called T two. It no longer exists,
but it was creepy and weird, you.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Know, because it's as the swingers bar and I.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I did a set and I did very well despite
everything about the venue.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Sure, this guy, you want to laugh to this guy
come up to me.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
He's like, hey, I.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Really enjoyed your set and your energy. I'm working on.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
A like TV program, like like a late night talk
show thing for Sacramento.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I think you be great for it.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
I'm like cool. He's like, here's my card. I'm like,
thank you. I'll take your card and i'll email you tomorrow.
He's like, hold on, before I go, what's your name again.
I'm like, oh, it's it's Ben Rice and he goes, oh,
that I'll never work and then he took his card.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Back because ben Rice wouldn't work.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Wouldn't work, that is, ben Rice is not gonna work.
I think it's because it's so close to Jerry Rice.
I feel I think.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
It's over too quick. It's just two syllables, as John Lear.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
I object to the idea that he has so many,
like mine is hard to spell. You're ben Rice, that's easy.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
It's so it's done so quick.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Lear has like this poetry to it right, and mine's
just done. That's all it is, ben Rice, like it's done.
It's done before you start.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
And if there's anything swingers hate, it's somebody who's done
before you start.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yeah, that's true, and that probably is why that happens.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
I would agree. Yeah, that's that's the most embarrassing that
happened to me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I'm gonna make you a start.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
This guy doesn't sound like he's gonna last a long time.
My wife will never enjoy it. Take it back, take
it back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
But before we go, Yes, I have to have the
important question, John, where can people find out more about
Drawn Lear, Barrelproof Comedy Lounge and whatever else you want
to tell people about?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
So for Bearproof Lounge, please visit Barrelproof Lounge dot com.
But easy since my name is very hard to spell,
if you would visit stepdad of Comedy dot com, that
is where you will find out where I will be
doing things.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Now, are you a stepdad?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I am not a stepdad, but I have a stepdaut
of comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I knew you were.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
That is a That is a different thing to be
a stepdaud of comedy. And it's because I'll spoil the joke.
But the reason I'm the stepdad of comedy is because
I may not be who you want to see, but
I'm here for you and I'm probably gonna try to
bang your mom. What No, that's a lie. I'm very married,

(01:01:06):
but that is how the joke goes. And my good
friend Gina stall Haven was like, you got to run
with that, buddy, let's work with stepped out of comedy
and I do everything Gina tells me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
So happy to do that too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
By the way, I don't know when this podcast is
coming out, but Gina will be at Barrelproof dot com
on this coming Friday, which is the twenty fifth, I
think twenty fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I'm gonna guess it's not gonna be out because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Life because of life, but definitely visit Barproof Lounge dot
com to season following week. John, that would be Terrell
big T Butler. Oh, he's great from Hell of Funny. Yeah,
he'll be up. I love having him every time. He's
one of my best friends in comedy as well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Definitely check out big T. I had that you saw, Gina.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Great job, good job, everybody, thank you and except for you, Barbara,
you were a mess. Stop being so personal with your comments.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Yes, where could people find out more about Moonlight Brewing
and what's going on here?

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
They can go to Moonlight Brewing dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Right, we have a calendar of events.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
We have shipping in California, so you can order our
beer online and have it shipped your door and two
ish days depending on how UPS is feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Still tariff free?

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yes, well, our beers are not made in China.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
They are made here in the United States in Santa USA, California.
Amazing filtered and unpasteurized.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Just how I'm always like the shipping is that do
you have any kind of special shipping you do to
keep the contents from.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Over It ships very fast.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
We put it in cardboard boxes with some extra you know,
extra cardboard around it, padding and it gets there overnight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
To two days again depends on ups.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Kind of have a lot of control once it leaves here.
But most people ninety eight percent are pretty happy with
the beer that they.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Get and you know, no damage.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
That is a success rate that swingers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
I feel pretty good about it. And you know I
will build you a custom mixed case.

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
If you send me an email, I will money, and
you send me an email, I'll send you an invoice
and you can have exactly what you want in your case.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, very nice, and I will.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Be the person on the other end of that email.
All roads lead to erin and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
You shall try every single one of these beers because
everything has been.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Especial case of everything, same number of everything until it
makes a case.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Yeah, well, technically it's by four pack. I don't really
want to do it by singles.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
You could know, you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
Could sweeten the deal a little, and you know, send
me all extra.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah, does order multiple four packs everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
That's easy as a beer case. I will tell you
if you tell them, I will pay you the highest
k cosm of four pack that you give you a
mixed four pack of what I want. They will take
that deal every time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
For sure, I'm a pretty reasonable person.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Four dollars, Pa'm like, I will give you twenty four
dollars the four beers I want in a four pack. Absolutely,
they'll make the exception despite a saying we don't do
that anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
You can also follow us on Instagram and Facebook for
those old people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
That and also you can drink four of every beer
that they have.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
You sure, drink all the beers here in the tap
room at three three five zero Coffee Lane in Santa Rosa,
Sweet d and follow follow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Us on Instagram. That would also be me behind the computer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
As a special bonus, I have gone in and licked
several random cans, so you may get one of the
cans that I liked, uh sent to you. We might exactly,
we might save those.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
For another time, like an auction. Silent exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I won't tell you what Ben did with the cans,
but it's also pretty special.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
I looked at them, and you should be proud and
happy about that. I'm a celebrity. Aaron recognized my name
when I called.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I did well. That's because I run the social media,
so you're on my feed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
What's it's just because I'm famous?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
That's what it is. It's because I'm a known name, yeah,
a lot. I don't know how to take that, and
it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
I feel like we need to expand your feed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
That's what I so for for me, Ben Rice, the
host of the Barley Me Podcast. You could find out
more about me at Barley and Me Pod.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
On all your social media.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Besides TikTok, I think is the one that you're not
allowed to use h and also probably most of them
I don't actually I'm not actually on You can check
out barleymepod dot com to see what kind of shows
I got going on. You got your Crooked Lane second
Saturday of every month.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
You got your four Rock moving to seasonal.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
You got your VFW The Post sixty seven every first Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
You got John. What else am I doing?

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I don't follow you on social media.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
So that's fine, Jay Lear, that's what it is on
Instagram for sure. L e Hr. It's not weird, and
you shut up about it. I'm all starting a new show.
This is gonna be great, John, this is gonna be great.
It's called The Bomb Shelter, The Bomb Shelter, the Bomb Shelter.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Because of the upcoming apocalypse with the new administry, it could.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Be it's the second Wednesday of every month starting in March.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I'm gonna get touring national headliners to come through Sacramento.
That's amazing and do like material they're working on and
like their stuff that they love that nobody really likes.
You Come and see it in a tiny jazz and
piano bar sixty times. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
I would love that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Thirty bucks cocktails, beer, wine, food, small intimate setting, nine pm.
There's no show like it. First show March twelfth, Steven
Fury will be headlining along with em and Alfonso Portella.
It's gonna be an incredible show. We're working on April.
If I essentially the list of comics who are interested

(01:07:24):
in the show, you'd be like, holy shit, why is
it only thirty dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So so glad that you put me on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
A right, Sacramento, don't be Sacramento and come to the
show because I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Don't want to that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
I've been very clear through one hundred and eighty five
episodes about what Sacramento's problem is live live art performances,
step up set. I'm not also Crocker in April. Check
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
That could be your new phrase.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
You could just sack it up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I think that sack it up, sack it up, sack
up and come to the show. That's that's what it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Sack up and listen, sack up and come to the stairs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
This as merchandise, gold right, I need that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I've just got these stickers, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
But now you can add sack I can add second,
I can sell bags.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Yes, anyway, this is big a bag of sack up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
One hundred and eighty five of.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Barley and Me with John Leear. Thank you so much,
Thank you for having me and Aaron from Moonlight Brary.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, no problem, thanks for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
And thanks so much for listening. Get home safe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Cheers,