Episode 176: Tim Carpenter of Woodhouse Blending & Brewing and Comedian Mac Ruiz

Host Ben Rice travels to Santa Cruz, CA, to talk to Woodhouse Blending & Brewing's do-it-all guy Tim Carpenter and Santa Cruz-based comedian Mac Ruiz. We'll tackle Woodhouse's support of Santa Cruz's local arts community, tap line cleanliness, and second-hand pop culture when we're not busy figuring out what our ages are again, where we were on 9/11 (this episode was recorded on 9/11), and discovering just how severe our tinnitus is. Plus! Mac gets accused of killing the Santa Cruz comedy scene, we come up with a million-dollar beer idea, we figure out why Mac's stomach hates beer right now, Tim delves into the blending of Woodhouse Blending & Brewing, and we try to figure out how to help crying children when there are no parents in sight. Yes, this is a beer podcast. This is episode 176 of Barley & Me. You're gonna love it.
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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Something. They call it functional alcoholism. But but if you know anything about
Ben, he's got vision. Withprecision microphones and the teink love the region.
You're about to hear what we canbe. It's time for Barley and
Me. Welcome to Barley and Me. I'm your host, Ben Rice.

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This episode one hundred and seventy six. We're here today in Santa Cruz,
California at Woodhouse blending and brewing withus from Woodhouse. Tim Carpenter, I
am a brewery Swiss army knife here. I just kind of do a little
bit everything, but most of havethe keys because we are here when it's
not open, and that's very helpfulon a Monday night. And our special

(00:50):
guest today, Macruise. Who areyou? I'm Macarise. I'm a comedian
from Santa Cruz, California. Hellyeah, all right, let's get this
thing going. Tim, how's businesshere at Woodhouse? Yeah? We're doing
good. You know, we gotlive music all the time, so that
kind of brings in people to beer. Helps would you say all the time

(01:15):
when we're old, like literally theentire time, like just on evenings after
six after six, yeah, becausethe neighbors get mad. Yeah, and
like you can't pay all those musiciansfrom opening toe closing. Just late night.
Everybody's just hanging out having a goodtime, relaxing after work. That's
some of them take beer, sothat's always good nice. Hell yeah,
that's the best way to do it. Hell dam besides just music every night?

(01:38):
How else or things pretty good?I got to drive a forklift every
day, so that with or withoutcertification. I didn't need it, but
I got it because I want tohave that lab nade. Oh ladies,
did you hear the forklift certifi?Hell yeah, we don't cut corners one
of the cloud really yeah, Iknow, I'll put that cloud chasing according
to some people. All right,Mac, you made me come here.

(02:04):
Why I wanted you to come herebecause it's my favorite brewery in Santa Cruz,
if not just like one of mytop breweries ever. I love it,
not just because it's very close tomy work, but also the people
here obviously are super fun, reallycool, really good energy. Pretty much
everyone that I've met thought has workedhere has been really welcoming. I really

(02:29):
bad social anxiety, I mean alot more before I started drinking the yummy,
ummy beer. So when I gointo a place and people are just
like friendly. It really helps me, and so I that's why I kept
coming back. And the events.Something I really like about this brewery is
that they do a lot of communitybased events that I think, I think

(02:49):
that's really needed in any like anywhere, but definitely in Santa Cruise. Yea,
they do a lot of really funstuff. Like I've been to a
lot of their Latine events and thosehave been really great. Really just kind
of bringing together certain people in thecommunity to make you feel kind of like,
oh, these are other people likeme, especially in Santa Cruz where

(03:10):
there are of generally a lot ofwhite people. Yeah, so it's nice
to have some diversity, and thatwould house definitely brings that for sure.
Yeah. And then you also mentionedthere's like art here. Yeah, pretty
much. I don't know how oftendo you guys change the art on the
last We try to rotate like onceor twice in months. Also, one
of our owners is like a worldclass artist too, so he kind of

(03:34):
makes a lot of the stuff here. And so which which owner, Tug
is an artist? Yeah, hepainted that mural up there. Are you
serious? Yeah? I have noidea. Wow, that's really cool.
Yeah, The art here is alwaysreally great. It's always super different stuff
that I've pretty much never seen before. Like right now, there's like a
huge fan with like air plants gluedonto it and it's like painted. I

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mean that's yeah, there's always justreally cool art here. Yeah. We
try and rotate like once or twicea month. You know, ideally you
bring it just employee art, oryou bring get local people, try and
help them sell their art or getexposure. Hell yeah, then you got
music, you have comedy. Iheard, Yeah, we have a comedy
usually once a month. That's likethe second Thursday of every month or something

(04:23):
like. That's what it looks likeaccording to that poster on the wall.
Yeah, and then this year,actually we're going to have the did we
do it last year year at theSanta Cruse Comedy Festival. I don't we
did? I want recall, butI don't remember, but we definitely haven't
definitely this year. So yeah,that's that's the thing that I always really
appreciate. Did you guys just tryto be a part of what's going on

(04:45):
in Santa Cruz, which I thinkis different and cool. Yeah, it
seems like it would be weird tonot do that as a brewery in Santa
Cruz, considering it's kind of knownas an artsy town, you'd want to
support, like any form of artthat really exists in it. You've been
sup I'm not, though, butit's just like you'd think it would be
so obvious to do it. It'sdefinitely a mutually beneficial relationship. Like the

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artists and the musicians bring people intodrink beer. The beer helps people enjoy
the music more. It helps themloosen their tip wallet. You have like
six beers and you see a nicepainting, you're more likely to buy it
for sure. Yeah, that istrue. So how long have you guys
been open here? I think itwas like November of twenty twenty one,

(05:29):
basically mid pandemic is when we opened. That's wild, Yeah, why even
because that was when they planned toopen the business and gets set back like
a year or something. But yeah, okay, that makes sense because it's
like two or three years to geteverything going. That was coincidentally when I
started working here because my last jobbasically during the pandemic when they furloughed everybody,

(05:54):
I got canned because they were like, we're not going to be a
brewery anymore, so see you later. But I moved in next door and
they're like, you're useful, here'sa job pretty much nice and you help
make the beer, right. Imostly do like after fermentation stuff like packaging,

(06:14):
delivery, sales, okay, alittle bit of everything, fixed stuff
that's broken. Clean the tap lines. Yeah, and you just clean the
tap lines so we're getting the freshestfresh Yeah. I clean the tap lines
like every two to three weeks,like like a professional. Yeah, Yet
like a professional, you go overthree and that's not good. That's kind
of good. But I've actually I'vealways wanted to clarify. I don't understand.

(06:40):
I know that there's there's multiple ownersof what house, right, Yeah,
yeah, it's a collection of people. It's a collection of people.
Okay, I've never really understood that. I just like figured that it was
a couple of people. So it'sTug, yeah, t Will like and
then Ken, who you probably neverYeah, I think I don't know if
I know micro Ken, but I'vealways wondered. I never really knew.

(07:04):
Yeah, they're not usually here likeduring yeah, when we're open here.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I seeI see Tug all the time. Will
we're also very awesome people. Oh, I will say very kid friendly,
very kid friendly. If you don'tlike kids, don't go to Woodhouse.
Just kidding, you should go toWoodhouse. And but there are a ton

(07:27):
you guys are super Sometimes when it'skid friendly, I call it Woodhouse blending,
brewing and babysitting service. Parents justgo outside and have a few beers
when the kids around around like throwingshit and making a bunch of noise.
Yep, you've opened a can ofworms your mac. No. I just
I'm I'm a former nanny, andso I just I think I have of

(07:49):
motherly vibes, okay, And sothere have been a handful of times where
I've been here and I'm like,all of a sudden taking care of someone's
child old. Yes, like it'sbeen. It's been a handful of times
enough for me to remember. Ithink we're required to have one parent just
ignoring their kid entirely and was kindof responsible for I've met some of those
kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely like I've even like I've

(08:16):
just realized forest I don't not thisisn't as weird as it sounds, But
I'm even like I've like picked upa child they like can sent uoy like
they were crying, they were sad, they like run and they fell on
the cement and they were crying andnobody was coming and nobody was coming,

(08:37):
and they looked up at me andI'm like it's okay, and they like
put their arms up, so Ijust like picked them up. I'm like
it's okay, Like where's your mommyor daddy, and like I've found the
parent. But it took a littlebit. Wow, yeah, if you
did it, all right, ifI did it, maybe I look a
little different there. Yeah. Iwas in a veryous framed position yesterday,

(08:58):
not at a brewery, just atthe park with my and there was this
little boy they're probably seven eight yearsold, with his sister who's like thirteen,
and they're climbing on the jungle gymand he falls and he cracks his
nuts on the ladder, which islike steel just boom right down direct hit
and he's like crying and screaming andcan barely talk, and it's just like,

(09:18):
shut ups up being a pussy,and I'm like, I know it's
the likelihood of an actual serious injuryis minimal, but like you're in charge
of this kid right now. It'syour brother. You have to like do
something I can't or no. Thesister was like, there's only the sister
in him. There there's no parentsand it's just those two. And she's
like ignoring his squeals of pain becauseshe's thirteen. She doesn't even talk about

(09:41):
her brother. She's like, Ijust want to be a thirteen year old
to do whatever I'm doing. Right, He only fine? Walk it off.
Yeah, So I can't go upand like, hey, you should
make sure your brother's okay. It'llbe weird. I was just getting him
home to an adult that you trust. Just the odds are he's fine,
but everyone wants a while. They'renot because I can't go. They're like,
hey, kids, show me yournuts. They're okay. I don't

(10:03):
even know what, but I would. I definitely don't advise it that I
don't know what I'm looking. Didyou go tell her? No? I
was like, I'm like, didyou not see that news article that came
out today about the kid? Well, this is yesterday, so I can't
died from the nuts. Oh no, and it was in my town.
Oh no, yeah, yeah,you killed that kid? Yeah, damn.

(10:24):
There were other parents they could havestepped in. Yeah, it was
a collection. There were people thathad both parents. They're watching one kid.
I'm like, I'm just one parentwith one kid, and she's she's
a toddler. She's just going nuts. I can't be She'll she'll run off.
I can't. I can't be doingthis toddler now, that's crazy.
Yeah. I mean, I don'tknow what the cutoffs are on ages.
I just know she's taller than mostkids twice or age. No, really

(10:46):
giant. I'd be like, oh, she's like three, I'm like year
and a half. Like what,I'm like, yeah, she's a She's
like three foot three and like aover a year and a half old.
Year and a half. I don'tYeah, I guess is that that's toddler.
I think honestly, I don't know. I think it is. I've
been saying toddler. Nobody's called meon it. You should know the months,

(11:07):
you should just say them. Yeah, be one of those. Yeah.
I just realized I was. I'vebeen saying the wrong month for like
two weeks. I'm like, oh, no, she's twenty two months now,
that's okay. I have to remindmyself how old day? Yeah,
I had to check a few daysago. I had to look and I
did. I literally googled how oldam I if I was born on this

(11:30):
date. I did that like twodays ago. Really my birthday is this
month, and I was thought aboutit last year's Yeah, no, there's
no reason to I did the samething. I was like, am I
really going to be twenty eight?And I looked it up and I am,
Yeah, I'm gonna be twenty eight. What's your birthday? Twenty third?
Dude? Have we talked about this? I'm the twenty second Oh I

(11:52):
think we have? Is this aVirgo party? Virgo parte? I'm the
cut off date. Okay, Idon't know. I don't know what that
means. But yeah, well nevermind, Well fuck that. We're all
September birthday. It's great, allright? Moving Wait is your birthday?
Yeah? It's like a week ago. I don't know. It's like,
yeah, like a week ago,Happy birthday, thank you, nothing matters.

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I'm forty one. It's like thelet the least birthday that's ever existed.
How are you turn thirty five?Yeah? I was like, can
you leave on twenty eight we're justlike, yeah, I'm thirty. I
just stopped. Yeah, it's like, please don't buy me anything. I
don't need more stuff. Yeah,I love stuff, So I anyone listening
to this podcast buy me stuff.Please don't buy me anything. I'm pretty

(12:35):
good at buying myself stuff that atsome point you're just like, if I
needed something, I would buy itfor myself. No, I'm still a
child. Everyone buy any things?Yes? Oh yeah yeah. My last
birthday, my mom and step daddid help me get a motorcycle last party.
That's pretty dompa. See that's gettingme something. Yeah, helping towards
because it's like the nice thing Ihave. It's like, this is what

(12:56):
you guys don't have to get me. Well, they didn't get it,
they don't help you. I'm assuredI'm getting a birthday present. At some
point. If you could get anythingfor your birthday, what would you want?
I don't want anything. It's literallyanything. Money's not a thing,
like what would you want? Payoff my house? Something? I would
like to not ever pay a mortgageagain? That would be great because of

(13:18):
free time. What's that couples?Oh yeah, like three hours, three
hours where I don't just watch YouTubechannels and just go down a rabbit holes
just like three hours where I focusedand do That's no. I just want
the power. But like be like, hey, you're not going to go
down intrinsic motivation as well. I'mlike, I'm like, okay, I
just need to like relax, likefifteen minutes. I'll find a fifteen minute

(13:39):
YouTube video and then I'll get backto whatever I need to do. And
I'm like I'm just sitting there scrollingand I'm like, damn it, I
did it again. But that's Imean, that's where we're as a society
now, and people who are,you know, above the age of like
twenty five, I feel like anyfree time we get because we all have
to work so much to pay allof our bills, and every time we

(14:01):
get we just want to like liethere. Yeah, I would like to
do nothing. I've been doing somethingall yeah, just give me until I
die nothing. And yeah, I'vebeen trying to work on not making myself
feel too guilty about doing nothing.Like I watched an entire show this weekend.
I just watched the whole series.And normally after I would do that,

(14:24):
I would be like, you're sucha piece of shit, Like,
what a fucking loser. You couldhave done X Y Z. And now
I'm trying to be like, Okay, I feel better. I did that.
Now I want to clean the kitchenor something like that. You know,
I did one thing. Yeah,I could have done nothing. There's
times I've done nothing. So Idid one thing. Yeah, Like I
trimmed all of the stuff that washanging over my fence into the sweet sidewalk.

(14:45):
That stuff done done so I canwatch a YouTube video or seven.
Yeah you think that was always allowed? Yeah? Right, I didn't get
drunk at grunch. I didn't takea nap. Those things are fine too,
right. I can't take naps.I tried, I can't. I
can I do them now, Likethe last month and a half, I'm

(15:09):
like, naps. We have achild. Yeah, it's don't do it.
I don't know if anybody here hasdone it. Don't do it.
I have my doctor. Don't doit. Yeah, I wasn't planning on
it. Yeah, I gotta dissectingme. So that's dope. How hard
was that few? Is it easy? Or it took thirty minutes? But
like getting to that point. Yeah, But I'm saying the process leading up

(15:31):
to it was a difficult or notdifficult, but basically just had to like
go to the doctor and then they'llbe like, okay, well you have
to come back in like three monthsand make sure that's something you actually want
to do. I came back threeand I was like, yeah, it's
crazy. Still want to do it? Yeah, okay, great, because
I've every health insurance is different init, every health provider's different. Mine
is a guilt you out of it, and then ignore you as you try

(15:52):
to schedule. Wow, it's superdope. They're like, hey, you
have four months of schedule, butwe choose when you can schedule. If
we don't schedule, we have tostart all over. And so I had
to start all over. I'm like, man, fuck Jesus. I'd always
thought about it, but then likeI had the COVID insurance, like health
insurance, you can't afford that.So I get it done while I had

(16:14):
the COVIDTH health insurance. Not really. Some people have that kid that got
kicked in and that's probably hard work. There are people that like really have
trouble with it, and other peoplelike barely affected me. So I think
it's just you know who you're tolerantfor pain and like the quality of your
care. Probably I haven't done itbecause again I had to start all over.
Then my group was like, whatif we had a second kind of
God, damn it. We arenot currently just everybody who wants to start

(16:40):
a rumor not currently you don't wantto. I've seen our life. I'm
like, I don't. This isa Becky went back to school last semester.
I'm like, we we didn't havetime before you started. Like,
yeah, I feel it, though, No, our baby, our baby's

(17:03):
perfect. A we're asking for islike not, I want to stop talking
right now. You're going to talkto your baby to find exist? Is
baby my own exist in second baby? Like, if you get a perfect
one the first time, the secondone is gonna be talk to her face,
so you need an outlet. Yeah, it's just gonna be here for
forever, just you can listen back. No, people do say that when
you have like a really really goodbaby first time around, which is I

(17:26):
love that we just qualified babies whetherthey're good or bad. But if you
just have a really great baby,then typically the second one is like a
terror. Yeah I'm using that argument, and we don't have space or money
or time, and I'm like barelywinning the argument. Wow, well hey,
it's like three searchs like Okay,you're He's like you're right, and

(17:47):
then like throe searchs like but whatabout it? Like there's nothing that's changed
in the argument? Was another one, another one. Yeah. Well,
also, your your body forgets howbad your first pregnancy was. Just does
it over and over again. It'sgood to do that. So she's forgotten
like all the nightmare she she hadmore every single day till delivery. She

(18:08):
did. Yeah, she could belike the doctors like you need to gain
weights, like I throw up everythingI eat? Like, well, you
to gain is like any tips becauseI'm literally throwing up everything I eat.
So yeah, it's a pretty dopeanyway. This is a beer podcasts.
Yeah, well too much. She'snot an alcoholic because then you could be
like, well you can't drink.Yeah, she's also not drinking beers anymore.

(18:30):
She's like, used, that's howwe kind of bond. Drink beer
too. I used. I usedto love beer. I left the country
for a while and traveled around andI missed all. I mean, I
hope this doesn't ever get taken outof context. But I missed America for
certain things like cheeseburgers, IPAs likeclo like that kind of stuff. I

(18:52):
just missed so much. When Icame back, I was just drinking IPA
like I gained so much weight.I drink it water. You're also eating
burgers, eating like everything, likeeverything good. Yeah, yeah, it's
very good. I was like,yeah it was. It was a problem,
a problem, but I uh so. I love beers. I always
drank beer, and now anytime Idrink any beer, my stomach hurts so

(19:18):
bad. And it's really unfortunate becauseI love the taste of beer, especially
like just different kinds. There's anotherbrewery and tell me how it's like a
lavender beer that I love. Okay, Sanacers Mountain. Yeah, Sanacer's Mountain
Brewery, and I love that beer. Just had a pumpkin beer yesterday,
like I was telling you, Butagain, my stomach still hurts from that.
Is that from Starbucks? Ye coffeestout pumpkin I come on, best

(19:48):
believe I would buy it. Yeah, just team up with a terrible brewery
that makes billions of dollars and makebillions more. I feel like I yeah,
it's a good idea. It isand trademarked, all right, yeah,
trademark. Today is September eleventh,happy anniversary. Yeah, forget.

(20:11):
You can forget what day it istoday. You're not supposed to forget what
happened twenty two years ago. Iremember that day. Yeah? Wait,
what was everybody up to? Nineto eleven? O one? I had
to go to school. Don't remember? Yeah? Probably? Wait, you
would be like six. Why wouldI remember when I was? Right?

(20:32):
Yeah, that's why you wouldn't remember, because, yeah, you would,
you have no idea. Yeah no, I've also blocked out a lot of
my childhood. But yeah, Idon't. I don't remember what happened.
I know what happened, but Iwasn't. I don't know where I was.
Yeah, great, probably what isthat kindergarten? I was on a
boat in episode of Ocean really withno anything. We've came into port and

(20:52):
I was I was a commercial fishermanout of high school. Yeah. Yeah,
because my uncle has been one sincethe seventies and he had had a
falling out with his whatever mate.I guess you would say first hand cat
Yes, yeah, it always soundssexual and it's like I just they want

(21:12):
a boat with this one dude andnobody else for four four months in a
row. I'm happily married to awoman one hundred and sixty miles away.
What are you talking about? Ithappens on the open seas. It's international
waters. But they had a fallingout over money, and so I came
out there and my captain, slashuncle is also huge where they're just a

(21:37):
fanatic type guy, and so mostfishermen are not just a full disclosure because
we're about to die at any moment. They're like, you know, it's
all there's no fate anyway. Sowe get in to like go eat breakfast
because we like actually went into theport, which we never did. It
just happened. We were in portand we get up and always one like

(21:57):
hey Bruce, where's your gud now? And we're like, what are you
talking about? They would get inthere's like finally a te like, oh
shit, Wow, that's a crazyway to find out. Yeah, I
would, that's wild. I watcheda video this morning that made me cry.
It was a video of all thedogs went in and helped save people

(22:22):
and find people. This one dogwho was a seeing eye dog, led
their owner out of the building andhe survived. The dog survived too.
I think I heard about that one. Yeah, there's like a dog to
save like twenty people or something.Yeah, like just one dogs like I
got this is one. I gotthis, and I guess yeah, and
girls dogs. I'm glad we hadthis. I feel like dogs, like,

(22:45):
if they're good boys, then coverssesall dogs. I don't think I've
ever met a bad boy, andthat's actually a bad boy, like an
abused dog by a shitty owner.Did you say good? Did you say
good? Like a good boys?It's unisex. Yeah, it's stilled BOI,
Yeah, it's it's unisex. Yeah. And I've had this argument before.

(23:07):
Puppers singular right one puppers multiple puppersis is that puppers puppers? Like
if you say, like, lookat that puppers, Yeah, look at
that puppers one puppers, I haven'tthought about that. I would raise Yeah,
I made that argument like eight yearsago. I want to bring it
u because I made this argument andthe person I was talking to googled it.
No results for puppers is but butthen three months later, hell of

(23:33):
results for puppers is changing the game? Wait what change the game? Me?
You? Then there was then afterI said it to somebody, like
directly to their friends, tons ofresults. You can just put a Wikipedia
thing in there and be like thisis how, this is how it works.
But I feel like I would alsosay if there was a group of
dogs, I would all I wouldalso be like, look at all those

(23:55):
puppers. Well you'd be wrong,I mean at the doors. So you're
saying puppers is singular and plural ordo you think pupper is a word?
Because that's not. But no onewould ever say puppers is Is that what
you said that? No one wouldever say that? You do? You

(24:15):
say that? Yeah all the time. Well I think that's a that's a
as well. It was it was, And then I said it out loud
to a person. And now theinternet says you're right. Now, it
says I'm right. Wow, that'spower. You got power. I have
tons of power. What do youknow? I don't know. What do
you know? This has happened likefour or five times with weird things there.
Yeah, it's very strange. Nobodyhad beards before me. I brought

(24:37):
him back. No one was drinkingthere and started nobody, Yeah, nobody
was doing it, so I starteddoing it. Is it? Is it
named after the movie Marley and Me? Uh, It's technically not, but
technically is It was just I wasspitballing names with a friend and I said

(25:00):
this, and we both laughed andwe're like done. We don't need to
have any more names because that one'slike okay, So there's no like affinity
for my brother in law. Ihad a dog named Barley, so that
also helps with the tie in.But I don't think it was like a
thought when I said it. Yeah, but I'm like, also, by

(25:22):
the way, that's true, butI liked because I think I also immediately
said, like, the beer diesat the end spoiler alert only if you
know the movie. Yeah, that'swhy I don't put it at the beginning
or on any of the merch.But it is technically the tagline, Oh
my gosh, I don't remember whatmovie is that from Dog dies again?

(25:48):
Spoiler alert? Remember that one didn't. I've actually never seen it. I've
never seen any there. I justknow that's that's what happens. Yeah,
why would I watch that? I'veread I've red old Yeller and Where the
Red Fern Grows. Oh boy,Where the Red Fern Grows kills me.
That is one of my favorite booksis all time. It feel like there's

(26:08):
a lot of pop culture references thatI like. No, but I've never
actually seen the movie like I GottaDance where they do the like dancing.
You know that movie. I've seenit. And you're like, I've seen
the water dump on the woman,or at least somebody spoof the water dumping
on somebody like got basically you've seenthe movie at that point, because that's
about it. Yeah, she getsthis, like she gets sweating and dances

(26:30):
everywhere, and then she gets acceptedinto a dance troupe. It was used
to be stuffy, but now theyunderstand that you can dance in a modern
style in nineteen eighty six. I'venever seen it. It's fine, I've
never seen that. I've never seenthe Notebook. I feel like it's what

(26:52):
you just said, like, Ifeel like I've already seen it because there's
only like three things that matter fromit, and you've heard about it.
Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I think I have seen it.
I don't remember anything. You like, Oh, this thing happened, like,
did it? Sure? Yeah,they kissed in the rain. He's
on the ground at some point.There's crying. Yeah, definitely crying.

(27:14):
I think he's a dick secretly.Yeah. But the anything he changes anything
is that I think that's that moviewhere he's like, I can't quit you.
No, No, that is notthat movie. That's Broke Back Mountain,
which I also have not seen.That's like a second hand pop culture

(27:38):
that I would love a movie wherethey just get there like they were gonna
make reference really wrong. So it'sthem in the rain and he's like,
I wish I knew how to quityou. M oh gosh. But I
think I think the sy're like moviesthat I'll like make you cry. Yeah,

(28:02):
yeah, that's so funny. No, but I think she like that
the equivalent of that scene happens.It's kind of right, like there's a
scene I've seen that. There's ascene I've seen that there's the same that
he's like yelling at her and thislike impassioned sort of thing about how they

(28:22):
should be the other or something.Yeah, here's what I found out.
It turns out James Marrison, who'sin that movie, I've seen this movie
like twice. I can't confirm thatfrom my memory the notebook, Sorry,
yeah, the notebook. He's he'sactually the guy that she marries or whatever.
And I'm like, they don't endup together. They don't what Yeah,
oh shit, I didn't know there'sa twist. No, but I'm

(28:48):
told, I'm like, I can't. I don't remember seeing him in that
movie at all. Wow, Sothey don't end up together. No,
what's the point that he's just there? Reckon? That marriage weren't over again?
Serious? Yeah, it's horrible.Yeah, it's not actually a good
movie more at least speaking. Yeah, everyone just has a bad time pretty
much. Yeah, well I madethat up. I have no I don't

(29:11):
know. I think she said sheShe's like, I wasted a lot of
time this one. This guy whenI really looked my husband James Marston,
who you don't remember is in thismovie? What else is it? Who
should we know? Who that is? He's a he's a Sonic the Hedgehog.
Does that mean anything to any movie? But you love Sonic? Yeah?
He played Cyclops and X Men,oh other things. I don't know.

(29:37):
I know Cyclops, Yeah, generichandsome guy? Is it? Jake
Jail and all of like ten yearsago. Yeah, but without acting talent
not not good, didn't do good. It's fine, wasn't didn't crush it.
In Sonic the Hedgehog or Sonic theHedgehog too, which was he in

(30:00):
Sonic the guy who finds Sonic orSonic finds him I don't know, and
they go on a travel journey togetherto whatever Sonics there. For James Morrison,
this is how we do the podcast. We've got all right, here's
well, you're looking that up soyou can be like, I don't like

(30:21):
him. Twenty seven dresses. Hewas in twenty seven classes. Yeah,
yeah, he's in the West Worldtoo. Oh yeah, I like this
guy. I don't really anybody remember. Oh yeah that was great. Yeah,
because he mentioned But that's so funnybecause he is in I think in
Jury Dude. Is he's supposed tobe like a blist actor. Yeah,

(30:42):
that's like going to jury Jury Dudy, like it had to be believable,
you know. But he plays himself, but he plays himself. Yeah.
Yeah, oh he was an enchantedI could never remember to me, I
love that show. Yeah, yeahhe is the guy. Oh my gosh,
this guy. Yeahs and stuff Ididn't know. I didn't know.

(31:04):
I was a James Marsden fan.He was in Hop Oh, yeah he
was. That movie is awful.I don't know what that is. That's
where he there's an Easter Bunny whodoesn't want to be the Easter Bunny and
he goes into the real world andthen James Morrison's like, maybe I'll be
the Easter Bunny, but as ahuman, and then the bunny plays drums.

(31:25):
I think you've told me everything Ineed to know. I'm gonna watch
that. We're gonna have to watchthe movie. Ye, you definitely had
to watch that movie. He wasalso in Boss Baby. Sure, I
don't know what that is. Eithermade three and there's like, wait what
I thought you're gonna say that theymade three Boss Babies Like yeah, they
got like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well news, Okay, they are

(31:48):
making another Sonic. Great, letme know when they get to Sonic Spinball
and I'll be interested. Video games, Jim Carrey video but not it's a
pinball games, Elba, It's goingto be sure. Why not we've been
to the Pinball Museum in Alameda?I have not. That is a good

(32:08):
one. Yeah, yeah, theyhave like a hundred plus pinball machines.
They have the one that they playedin the Who music video for the pinball
is. Oh yeah, like abeer event for SF Beer Week there,
like did a bunch of photography forthe SF Beer Week and yeah, took

(32:29):
a bunch of pictures in the pinballthat's cool. Can you play any of
them? You can play all ofthem. Yeah, you can play all
of them. Yeah. They keepthem, they keep them restored, they
keep them in working everything. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a living museum.
That's so cool. What's the pointit be like? Oh yeah,
that's great. Yeah, for sure. I heard one pinball machine. Imagine

(32:50):
like a hundred of them or onehundred and fifty of them. That actually
sounds like my worst nightmare. Ithought it was great. Yeah, I
get century over world, okay,but going there sounds also it's like something
I would want to do. Yeah, I just put on some put on
some earplugs minimize but you can't getrid of it. I don't need to
be walking around where in headphones.Okay, just like little earplugs they've got.

(33:12):
Oh you mean just like sleeping likeyeah, oh yeah I can do
that. Yeah, that's actually notabout idea. Yeah, I heard they're
way better than when I was akid. Oh yeah, you get the
ones that cut out the high frequenciesand leave the good ones in for like
concerts and stuff. Yeah, Iwear them now, but I think I
already did the damage. Yeah that'sdone. Yeah. I get Tonitas every
once in a while and like hearrandom rings and I'm like alone, Yeah,

(33:38):
you killed the cilia in your earsand they ring. That's a like
a thing. Have you heard thatsound before? Yeah you have tonightas yeah,
yeah, you just temporary. Yeah, I don't want tonitas. If
you kill enough of them, theyjust don't come back. Cilia in your

(33:58):
ears a little tiny hair that,yeah, that pick up the reverberates and
help you hear. So you basicallylose certain frequencies or you hear a hum
like forever. Because I went toa Wayne concert in like Denver in like
two thousand sixteen. I want tosay, we're seventeen, dad. Yeah,
I definitely got to ninus from That'scrazy. I didn't know it had

(34:21):
a name. Yeah, that happensto me a lot. You should wear
you should wear earplugs. I wonderif it's from always having my air pods
in. It's usually from like reallyharsh frequencies. Yeah, like bad sound
people. I remember I went toa concert in like two thousand where like
all the highs just became through aslike electronic shrill. Yeah, like every

(34:43):
every vocal came through that way forlike a show with like six bands.
I'm like, well that's I'm donethat concert. In Denver, I went
to the Wayne concert. It waslike in a big stadium and like the
reverberations from the music like bouncing offall the different surfaces. It's just got
so shrill, these harsh noises andyeah, stadia, let's just say it

(35:05):
right now, stadiums not do concerts. Like indoor stadiums. The acoustics are
terrible. They shouldn't do concerts.Yeah, I've never had a good time
at one. But you had tosit in the seat that's assigned to watch
a basketball game. And well,yeah, that's so that's the weird part
for me. I did go toan outdoor stadium. I saw Lady Gaga.
That's fine because it gets to liketravel. It was great. Well,
I mean you saw Lady Gaga,the mate, that's true. Lady

(35:27):
Gaga is amazing, So but itwas, h you can't. It's not
comfortable to sit in those seats,you know, so you stand the whole
time, which which is okay,but you also get like three inches forward,
yeah, and then you feel likeyou're gonna fall. Yeah, and
you feel like you're gonna fall reallylike it's my favorite. Yeah, I
hate it. I just say itbeing in the seats where you're like seated
in front of a bunch of people. So if you want to stand up

(35:49):
like you should it at a concert, you're like blocking like six people.
You're like, we don't want tostand up, but at that point it's
on them, like, it's justit is what it is. You know,
you got if you're gonna stand andyou're gonna stand. He's a tall,
You are a tall, so heknows. I'm sorry, I was.
I was. I was thinking frommy small Yeah, short person talls
can't stand up in that scenario.You just gotta be like, I guess

(36:13):
I'm sitting. Do you know whatI would be mad at? I would
be you're you're pretty tall? Yeah? Yeah? Is there anything worse than
that? Is like girls that goto concerts with like really tall hair styles,
like they put their hair up inlike a talking about like drives me
crazy. Who where are you going? You ever had to sit in a
concert like behind like a girl that'slike, I'm gonna make my hair twice

(36:36):
as tall, so my head's likethree feet tall? Are you going to
like the South? No? Whois having tall hair? Was that an
actually Hannibal Burs comedy show? AndSanta I was saying what yeah? And
every time she'd move her head I'dhave to move my head the opposite direction
to like, I mean, youhave to. I need to know,
like what hair is, because whenI had hair, I mean that's like

(37:01):
you pile it up. She justpiled it up. Yeah, I don't
know. I don't know hairstyle.Yeah you can't. We can't. He
don't have any pictures. He's notout here. Take a picture. Look
what I couldn't. No one hastall hair. I mean I think I
took a picture. A good show. I need to see because that's going
to take me to find If someone'sgot long hair and they want to put
it up, it's gonna be tall. No, yeah, it can be,

(37:23):
depending on They could do a backbone, but it might do a top.
Do you mean like a bun ontop. Like it was like a
bun, but it was huge.But it was also a lot of hair,
you know. Top. I hatedit. Okay, that's what I'm
talking. That's about it. Stuckon it because like tall hair is like
like I'm picturing like Marie Antoinette.No, it wasn't like a Okay,

(37:45):
that's what I was thinking. Butit was enough just like add like seven
or eight inches for no reason.It's not about right something like that.
Yeah, maybe I don't know,that's crazy. Yeah, when you said
tall hair, I'm picturing like you'repictured like a like three feet of hairs.
Yeah no, no, I don'tthink we're at like a like a

(38:06):
yeah, like a Marie Antoinette.Yeah no, like take somebody who's like
five five and tournament to like fiveten. But just hair. That's what
I'm saying. That's what I thinkof. That sounds it's still a lot.
It's just anyway, that's crazy.I think the important question is what
house blending? What are we blendingbarrels? What kind of barrels? What

(38:29):
do you got in? These things? They're all different. Most a lot
of them are sour. Oh wehave some stouts, saisons kinda. Yeah,
so the sour program probably takes afew years to really cultivate, Like
as far as that, we're rightnow. We're pulling like a couple of
barrels a month and like tasting themand then blending some of them together and

(38:53):
then making little side experiments like acouple of kegs of yes, kind of
like our research into elevant type things. Yeah, we have like well like
throw a mango or peach or intoone of them and put a keg of
that on you see how people likeit, and then be like, oh,
well we can reproduce that if that'spopular. Yeah, we know it's
put but all these barrels full ofbeer hell yeah. And then we got

(39:19):
yeah there's more, yeah, becauseit's like there's not a lot of sours
one for being a blendery. Butthen like twenty twenty one, that makes
more sense because you've got to havethe time for the age in there.
Yeah, and really like get thatfunk going, get those blends it.
What is what makes it beer sour? Lacto bacillus a lot of times,
or Britain of Mice's just weird wildyeasts that in puts some stuff. Yeah,

(39:45):
it just takes forever. But likethe big one for sours, the
lacto. Yeah, it's a liveculture like can yogurt or something. Yeah,
so you add that and then youadd like fruit. Oh yeah,
you can add fruit or whatever youwant, really real fruit. Yeah,
but what will make it sour isthat live culture. Yeah, you can

(40:06):
get some towering out of the fruititself, depending on what fruit you're using
as well a little bit of thatcharacter. Yeah. But with your stomach
issues, it's usually driven I foundby yeast whichever beer has so it might
just be oh you're having those tummyissues yet the hops, but it's usually
just drink like light clear beers likeHazy's will probably give you a tune.

(40:29):
That's the problem, is I love. Oh it's all yeast all the time,
Like it's got more parts for millionin it floating around like that's why
it's not clear like this, likeit's got stuff in there. Okay wow,
Yeah, there's stuff in suspension thatmakes it so you can't see through
it, and that's why it's hazyreally. Yeah, but your body has
to process all of that ship.Yeah, that's why. Yeah, because

(40:52):
that's why you drink like fifteen coreslight or you're gonna have like two hazy
epers and my stomach like because Iwent to a sour festival thing. It's
like small at like a little bar, and you can get like flights of
like sixteen like so it's like,you know, two ounces of each one
sixteen beer. That's that's thirty twoounces. That's two beers, right,
And I spent it with six peoplewith that, and I still blacked out

(41:15):
because of how much yeast was becausethey are all different yeasts working in my
stomach all was different degree. It'sjust I was like, like my brother
in law like collapse and I cuthis hand open in my partment, like
oh my god. And it's likewe barely technically technically barely drank because what
it does in your insides when youdrink all sixteen it's not like re fermenting

(41:36):
in there. Yeah, And there'sa syndrome that like people get if they
can ingest like wild yeasts, theycan like have alcohol ferment in their stomach.
Yeah, I mean you're just likedrunk all the time. What.
Yeah, I don't remember either.It's really weird set of circumstances have to
happen for that. Yeah, andit can be like at all times.

(41:58):
This was more like a just intheir interacting with stuff and your body's like
this is too much and it kindof shuts down. It's not like when
you got more drunk. Yeah,without being I wouldn't like test drunk.
But it was just like my body'slike I don't know what to do with
this. Wow. Yeah, that'scrazy because it was like over hours too.
Like it was like I was like, I'm gonna just I was like
it was I was there for likefour hours and I'm like, oh,
I can't walk that. Or somebodydidn't test the alcohol content of there were

(42:24):
like one came from It was definitelytainted. It tastes the straight up like
varnish. I'm like, hey,don't dreak this one. Wait, so
you had the equivalent of what twoglasses? You said? No, the
combined force were about two glasses,and I spo was like six people.
So I had like a quarter ofa beer and it's gonna be I think
you got roofied. I don't know. Maybe it doesn't sound like it.

(42:47):
I think it's really just because it'sso many different It's like, you know,
barrel aged hours and there's like lights. It was just it was too
much stuff going on. So that'sa bold move. That's an interesting place
to try. And roofy, somebody'sthe hour fast at a brewery? I
mean to come is that a isit a taphouse? But it's also when
I lived right on the street fromI was there all the time, so
and like everybody I was there withit. We were all regulars. You've

(43:09):
never known. Itsical you can getat a time, and it was like
a line out of the doors.Like what if we all just go there
and we just each get a differentflight and we just meet up and we
drink and we all paid the price. All right, I've done too much?
No, not enough? Yeah,we got time, all right.

(43:30):
I mean I don't know, Idon't I'm not working. So yeah,
whenever you're not working either, you'rethe person that really has obligations. I'm
not doing anything until like nin obligations. Do I have somebody else's hosting my
show? Hell yeah, speaking ofmac, you us not just a podcast
guest on this particular podcast. Youdo county and around that you include running
shows and stuff. Yeah. Theworst job in America, Oh man,

(43:52):
It is a thankless job, that'sfor darn sure. Yeah, I have.
I've been in Sana Cares for aboutfour years doing comedy and i've been
I've currently run Rosie McCann's, acouple of other people, and I also

(44:14):
occasionally will host The Blue Lagoon,The Blue Lagoon, Don't Touch the Walls,
uh I yeah, that's on Tuesdays. And then I was doing another
show, but I just walked awayfrom that. Yeah, running a show
is not easy. It's, uh, you're everyone's you can't you can't make

(44:34):
anybody happy. It's everyone's always upsetwith you. It's like and especially if
you run. So Rosie McCanns specificallyhas gone through a few iterations. It's
seen a few different lives. It'sbeen going for quite a while, much
before my time, and it's beenthe back room. Yeah. So it's

(44:57):
it's it's evolved, it's devolved,real evolved. Just yeah, it's it's
it's got its chapters. And soit was for a while just completely open
mic. It also was like openmic, but then we had a budget,
so we would pay a headliner anda feature usually is what we would
do. And now it is Idon't really know if they're what the word

(45:22):
is for it. But show,it's a show. We do still book
a headliner. Occasionally the headliner willcome with a feature, and then we
budget that in because we just wehave our base budget and that's it.
I even booked people who I justreally wanted to do the show, and
then I pay out in my pocketon top of the bass pay, and

(45:43):
only not a couple of times.But yeah, so we really only have
certain parameters to work with. Butwhat happened was it got to and I'm
actually glad I get to like saythis out loud to a format that we'll
be recorded, because I got somuch hate for apparently being the reason why
this happened. One person, Iwon't name any names, but one person

(46:07):
said that I kill well, notjust specifically me, but like that the
showrunners killed the Santa Cruz comedy scene, which is not true. The Santa
Cruise comedy scene is very much aliveand well and thriving, and but it's
it's people were upset. Were yougate keeping Max? Oh? I think
I was, Oh my god,I can't believe you're keeping those gates from

(46:30):
Yeah, I only let straight whitemen do my shows. Yeah, as
far as I can tell, isgoing fine. Yeah, everything's going superb
over everything. Everything's a slight.Everything's a slight. We didn't book me.
It's a slight, like you don'tfit the show. I book you
don't fit the show, or Idon't have space, or I i've never

(46:51):
seen you before. I tried notgiving a yeah, oh man, haven't
met me. It's tough because likeyou can't there's no way for somebody to
take a no jet. It's sorare. You're like you're like, hey,
I don't have space, or like, hey, you know, I'm
booked for next two months. Andthey always like you just don't do it
because you don't like me. Youthink I'm not funny, like Jesus Christman,
I just don't have a spot foryou. That's it. It's always

(47:12):
got to be something, something personal. It's always some personally like yeah,
and it's like go above and beyondto try and help people. But if
I like need to tell someone that, I have no problem telling, but
they don't, they don't take itvery well. They're always come down.
I don't care, but it's justit's just exhaust and that. But then
they go with comedy, they gopublic like this person's trying to whatever.
It's literally happened on a public onour standard christ comedy. It's a spot

(47:36):
for you right now, that's allthat's happening. Yeah, it happened.
Well, we what we did waswe switched it to now Rosiemikans is not
an open mic, not just anythere's no list that you come and sign
up. That's not what we're doinganymore. And when we decided to do
that, it had a lot ofgood reasons as to why it happened.
Did people care to ask or inquireabout why complained about it? Yeah,

(47:59):
they made it assumptions and they wereangry and upset and they threw stuff out
on the internet and it's not Itmade me feel terrible because the main reason
why we switched it to not justbe walk up sign up is like it
got out of control to the pointwhere like my safety, other people's safety
was being jeopardized, and people werenot having a good time. It was

(48:23):
becoming a not as good of ashow is it it is has been because
Michael do that, because an openmica will do that. And also it
just didn't really make sense because wehave these booked headliners, Yeah, who
are now fighting an audience. It'slike checked out, exactly why do we
have them here? And it's like, I don't want to invite you to
come all the way from Sacramento,Chico, Sacramento. I don't want to

(48:45):
invite you to come all the wayto Santa Cruz and and have this show
set up for you. That's terriblebecause we literally were having like nothing against
stormless people, but like we wereliterally having like these homeless dudes come up
and I don't even let them.I was like, sure, whatever,
go ahead, Mike, and itstarted. Yeah, and I live on

(49:06):
the house on the I know,but so I it was okay a couple
times, and then it started tojust not be okay and they would start
huckling, and if the line upwas full, they would start yelling at
me because they didn't get a set, and they would hang out in the
doorway like someone stole my iPhone,Like it just started getting out of control.

(49:27):
And also yes, and then alsoit's got to the point where people
would be coming up, like thesedudes who were really disrespectful, who weren't
nice to me, who threatened me, Like people were literally there was this
guy. I can't remember his name, otherwise I absolutely would name drop.
There was this guy, this olderlike white dude, and he was really

(49:49):
upset with me because I would Ididn't give him a set and a the
lineup was full and bat I didn'twant to give him a set because his
material was really really bad and offensiveand he was not nice to anybody and
would like be really nasty to theaudience, which is like, this just
isn't the place for that. Likeif I'm going to be part of running
this and this is not the placefor that. Is there like a betting

(50:12):
process for Overna, like Hey,you're not welcome back here? Then they
make a scene and that's what happened. So he straight up was like I
it was after the show, andhe stayed until after the show, and
I was getting ready to walk backthere in the back room and start breaking
down the room, and I heardhim go to another person before he saw

(50:36):
me. I hear him go,where's Mac. I want to talk to
Mac right now? And someone waslike, uh, I don't know,
And I immediately just turned around walkedall the way to the security guard and
I was like, there is aman who's trying to come talk to me
and I do not want to talkto him. And he was like,
you gotta go hide back there.And the guy comes like screaming down the

(50:58):
middle of Rosie McCanns and it's justlike, I want to talk to Mac.
Where's Mac? I need to talkto Mac, like looking for me,
and I like, I thank goodnessthere was your purity guard to be
like, you need to go,and he just was like that to me
is not a safe environment, andA I don't want to put myself in
that situation, and be I don'twant to foster that situation. Yeah,

(51:19):
I don't want to an environment wherethat happens. And so that's why.
And of course people were upset,And of course people are going to be
upset if you say no, ifthe lineup is full, if you like
them, they start running the light, you like them again, you tell
them they run a light, they'remad at you. Yeah, but you
just can't. Yeah, it's justsuch it's such a hard job. But
I do love doing it. Ido love doing it. As they've gotten
older, I love it a littlebit less, Yeah, because it's just

(51:40):
a lot. But next time someonegets mad. Yet you just be like,
that's show business, okay. Butthe thing is is then people would
follow me to my car like it'snot it's not easy. It's not easy.
It's you can't just yeah, yeah, there's no respect. Here's a
hint. The people that are usuallyacting that way aren't women. Yeah,

(52:02):
I don't hear. There's only beena couple of people who like have attitude
like you know, but mostly it'sjust men. Usually it's older men too,
which I'm just like, or superyoung ones and you're like, hey,
this is you don't even know anythingabout the world yet, this is
not okay behavior. So I dolove show running, but I am stepping

(52:22):
away from it slowly. Yeah,it's I just keep stepping into it like
an idiot. It's my favorite part. And not only easy you have to
deal with that. It's also allthe questions that are in the group chat
and they come to you like allyou're prepping for the show, Like I
have a question like, oh mygod, I've given you everything you need
to buy every here. I justI have a set to do too,
man, I'm just trying to I'mlike, I'm like setting up a room,

(52:42):
I'm setting up the sound and makingsure it sounds good, the light's
good, making sure their business isready to go, like every everything's fine.
There's just so many invisible And thenand then they're like they have a
question. You're like, oh,I have tople do the set now,
and I'm like, I don't evenknow what I've ever thought of in my
life exactly. It's great, it'ssuper fun. It is I it is
rewarding for me. I do likebringing laughter to the community. That's something

(53:06):
that's important to me. And Ialso do I enjoy putting on a show.
I like writing a show. Butit is it's just a lot of
invisible things that people don't think about. They don't care. They're just so
insli they're just within themselves. It'sreally just the best stuff when it happens
is just such a fucking night it'ssuch a nightmare. But the good stuff
is great, and the beastom doesn'thappen all the time. It's just my

(53:28):
dad's like Jesus, it just thanksmy whole week. And then there's like
that aftermath of you just being likethis is a comedy show, like why
life is happening and why is itso intense? And but it does.
I mean, it's not me alot of lessons. I definitely have come
a lot more into my own andI've learned to steck up for myself like

(53:49):
way more than I used to.And I know now that whether I say
yes or no, people are gonnahave issues with me, and so I
might as well just say no.And what I want to say now,
yeah, yep, I just learnedto say. Now. We haven't really
talked about the beer at all.I just want to say, the first
beer on this list you gave mehere is the Egyptian Cotton hazy IPA,
which you shouldn't drink, and butit's so good. It's so good.

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I think most hazies are they're toomuch. I think this one, I
think it has a lot of pineappleto it, which I think is really
what I like. It is.A hazy is like that kind of sweet
but bitter. Yeah, definitely,most of them are like just overboard sweet.
I just really like the fact thatthis like has a lot of ipe

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quality. It's not just you know, a West Coast with haze. It's
actually like what I think a hazysheet. We call it a Egyptian cotton
because it's so smooth. Yeah,it's wonderful there in the sheets, wonderful,
and you have an extra pail onas you wish an extra pail.
I'll always drink an extra pail.I was hoping you'd get an extra pail
in the in the flight. Ithink we're gonna have to change the name
of that one because like the stylejust throws people off because they're like,

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what the fuck's an extra pailing?I want to it's just it's not quite
call it, uh, West Coastpale ale or something. Yeah, I
think the extra pale thing. Theyjust kind of made it up and they're
like, I mean consolute the stylesor yeah, it's like it's not quite
an IPA. It's more than apale ale. I don't know, but
yeah, I think it West Coastpale work. I think it were be

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like, yeah, yeah, Ithink everything here was great. What's that
one on the end? This onethat's the yeah? That one's that one
looks like the one that I usuallydrink. Yeah that sounds like the one.
M yeah, that is the one, yeah, because there is my
stock the most do it. Wealso had the Golden Cream ale Delicious and
they get the darkness dry Irish stoutjust so everybody knows some time, just

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a flight of this stuff because I'mnot crazy. Uh yeah, great stuff.
I was hoping to get some moresource, but I understand you know
that twenty twenty one, like it'sa little bit harder to get those.
Alright, we got time, Imean not in this pocket. We got
to get the fuck out of here. That's what I heard. That's just
my own for my own editing thing. It's going to be a drum circle

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going on here. Yeah, AndI'm really just like I don't want to
edit more than this. Yeah,all right, we have to get out
of your mac. Where can peoplefind out more about you? The shows
you're currently running that you'll probably giveup and I'm sorry, hand off to
someone else. I will go toRosie's with my cold dead hand Rose mc

(56:21):
everst. I love Rosie mccannzi.Yeah, every Monday, Rosie mcanz is
uh just every Monday. Yeah,every Monday. I am on the socials.
Typically Instagram is the best place tosee where you can see me live.
And my Instagram handle is at it'smac cruise I S M A c
R U I Z And yeah,I will be in If there's any listeners

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in Texas, I'm going to doa festival in November and Austin Altercation Fests.
Hell yeah, it's great. Runby our mutual friend j D.
Hopperson. Yeah actually he yeah,he mentioned that he knew you. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. JT is amazinghere runs up festival. I'm also
going up with JT and Eddie peppatonenext month to Savage Henry in Humboldt.

(57:09):
That's gonna be a fun show I'mhosting for those two guys. And then
Santa Cruz Comedy Festival in the beginningof October. Hell yeah, and Tim,
what about here at Woodhouse where we'llfind out more about you? What's
going on with you? And Woodhouse? Well, you can't find any more
about me because hell yeah, Idon't need any more. Fall doesn't need
It's Woodhouse. You can follow onWoodhouse brewis Instagram. Just search Woodhouse Bruise

(57:34):
or Woodhouse Blending and Brewing. Hellyeah. Yeah. And for Barley and
Me, you can find me across social media Barley me Pod check outs
Bartley and mepod dot com for showsand episodes and things that are going on
and all this stuff. Look outfor Roto Ramon's debut comedy album Once I'm
done editing everything, I'm so I'mso tired. I don't do it so

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I'm so close and knit. Sofar, it has been episode one hundred
and sent six of Barley and Macoweez. Thank you so much, Thank you
Tim from Woodhouse, Thank you somuch. Thanks thanks so much for listening.
Get home Safe. I live fiftyfeet aways