Leonard Malting Reviews! One Pint at a Time (w/ director Aaron Hose, producer Brigitte Hose

Welcome to a brand-new episode of Barley & Me Presents: Leonard Malting, host Ben Rice's beer-centric movie podcast with co-hosts Paulina Olivares & Corky McDonnell.
On this episode, we discuss the new beer documentary One Pint at a Time, with director Aaron Hose and producer Brigitte Hose.
Unfortunately, Corky could not attend the recording due to a family event and Ben had to miss the documentary screening for similar reasons, so Paulina handles this one almost entirely on her own. And does an EXCELLENT job.
One Pint at a Time is a beer documentary focusing on Black beer history, from the invention of beer, early brewing, up to the modern day, where many still see it as odd if a Black person likes, let alone makes, beer. Through discussions with Black brewers and brewery owners, and trips to breweries throughout the world, regardless of ownership, the Hoses try to provide proof to everyone that if you have a dream or a passion, it is worth pursuing.
"We" also discuss energy vampires, correcting ignorance, the documentary festival circuit, the founding of the NB2A (National Black Brewers Association), 25+ years of documentary filmmaking, the first-ever Black beer festival FreshFest, and so much more.
If you have a beer-centric or heavily-beer-involved movie recommendation, let us know and maybe we’ll do this again!
Learn more about One Pint at a Time's scheduling on IG @onepintfilm or at www.onepintfilm.com
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Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
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Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
Thanks so much for listening.

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Something. They call it functional alcoholism. But if you know anything about Ben,
he's got vision with precision microphones andthe tinkle love derision. Here about
to hear what beer can be.It's time for Barley and Me. Welcome

(00:27):
to Barley and Muti presents Leonard Malting, our weird movie podcast. I'm your
host, Ben Rice with me asalways my co host Collins, and not
with us, it's Corky McDonald's.He has like family or something. I
don't know what that's about. Butwe're here today at Oak Park Brewing,
a part of People's Beer Fest,to talk about One Pint of Time with
us from One Pint of Time,Aaron Jose director, producer, Ugit Jose,

(00:52):
producer. So I unfortunately had afamily emergency. I could not watch
the film last night. So wedon't need an uninformed white guy talking about
this. So I'm gonna bounce andletting you guys discuss this topic. But
tell me about how you guys are. Tell the listeners how you came up
with this idea, the process,all that stuff, The most wide open

(01:12):
question you'll ever get. The wholething started with us becoming avid craft beer
drinkers. Let's see around twenty fourteen, we went on kind of like this
random road trip to Asheville, NorthCarolina. It was like one of those
like throw a dark account ter seewhere it lands. There's a lot of

(01:32):
beer out there. Yeah, andit was. It came pretty close to
Nashville and Sorry Ashville, and Iknew of some friends that had been there.
We had never been there, andthey say, oh, it's beautiful.
So we looked it up the internetsay, oh, it's gorgeous,
blue Ridge mountains. Why not?So we drove up and it was the
first we had some amazing beer atthis popular pizzeria. I forget the name,

(01:53):
it's been so long, but itwas the first time we had a
flight of beer to know that youcan drink beer in small taste size portions,
right, there's always like a bigpint or a pitcher. But anyway,
I had the Kataba Brewings farmer Ted'sCream Ale and it was just amazing.

(02:14):
I never had anything like it before. And just that whole trip that
we were there, we just bouncedaround different places and started drinking beer.
And we came back from ashtrall withjust this newfound love of beer, and
it gradually turned into an adventure.Every place we went to it was like
Google or Siri, what's the nearestbrewery? And we just and there's literally

(02:37):
one anywhere, right, Yeah,we're in the middle of nowhere in the
mountains, like, hey, Google, what's the nearest brewery? And yes
there was one or two. That'sthe best part of traveling for me.
I go to any city and like, what can I knock get at home?
Yeah, like that's the first thingI want to do. Yeah,
so we would, you know,go in and just hang out and drink
as much as we could handle ofthe menu, but in flight size,

(02:58):
because that was like the thing thatwe discovered. It's like, oh,
we'll just have a pint of whatwe like best. So yeah, we
did a lot of that for theI guess it's ensuing two or three years.
We come from Aruba to the CaribbeanDutch Caribbean island, and we like
to speak different languages. You speakEnglish, Spanish, Papyamino or some Dutch.

(03:21):
She speaks French. I'm jealous.I used to speak a little bit
of French. I don't know anymore. But we coach switch kind of randomly,
and you know, you're in theSouth for the most part, and
you speak anything other than English,and sometimes just people just look at you
weird. Yeah, and it turnedinto a thing. And it went from
that to us really looking around theroom and realizing, oh, we're among

(03:46):
the only people of color in thistaproom or the only people of color in
time. Oh yeah, And Ijust have to add, I don't know
if it's okay to say, butit's a kind of game we play.
I don't know if other people play, Like what other brown people do we
see, like if we get tobrewery or to an event, or it's
beetter bled brown, Asian, anyanything other than you know, yeah,
yeah, I don't think that's justyou. I've definitely played that game.

(04:10):
Like my two of my best friendsare Filipino, and like the group of
us, it's like two Mexicans,two Filipinos. No, I look like
the white girl of the group,like incognito Mexico. But yeah, we'll
definitely like we'll go places and likethere's no one else, Oh there's another
one. Yeah, We're like there'sone. Yeah, and you know,

(04:32):
just you know, I've been makingdocumentary films for the past close to twenty
five years and was just got curious. You know, you look around and
most of the tap room staff andpatronage and managers and people in the brew
house, they're mostly white men.Few women here and there, but it
was rare. Even in the patrons, you wouldn't find that many women.

(04:55):
And it's usually like the girlfriend,like they're not even drinking the yeah beer,
you know, And this is,you know, twenty fourteen, twenty
fifteen, so would think we're likenine eight years ago, nineus years ago,
so it's almost a decade. SoI just, I don't know,
just started looking into the history ofbeer, and because you know, we

(05:15):
have other friends of color that weknow drink beer, but you know,
like us, but they weren't goingto tap rooms, and it's just why
not. So I just started lookingto the history of beer and just learned
some things about how much people ofcolor have in terms of history of beer
making, but we didn't know anyof this because we were never taught any

(05:38):
of them. Well, also,how much of this it has been like
removed from history intentionally, right,like women's contributions. People don't Yeah,
it's mostly women, like the historylogical, Yeah, yeah, somewhere in
Belgium or friends or the Netherlands,Germany. Yeah, and that's basically what
all of us thought. That's wherebeers started. Yes, right, No,

(06:01):
we're talking way before that. Souncovering some of that history for myself
it became interesting. So I started. I went to the Burgh Association website
and they hadn't started really collecting muchdata on the his you know, on
brewery ownership, but they did hirethe first I think it was like at

(06:24):
the time, her title was calledthe Diversity Ambassador. I think it was
called with doctor j Jackson Beckham.That was her role at the time,
Yeah, the diversity Ambassador, butnow it's Equity and Inclusion Partner because things
have shifted. Yeah. That sothey had just hired her brand news because

(06:45):
the Craftbeard sales were kind of likeflatlining, because New York Times was saying,
oh, you know, the diversityin craft beer is lacking. So
I felt like, oh, Iwas onto something with my research. I
was like, let's make a filmabout just the lack of diversity, but
as a general term, right,diversity, encompassing any person that wasn't part

(07:06):
of the majority. So we startedour research twenty seventeen ish and started around
locally Orlando, Tampa area, meta bunch of female brewers and a couple
of black birds, and that kindof expanded into twenty eighteen where we went

(07:27):
to the first black beer festival inUS history. At the time, it
was called Freshfest. It has sincebeen rebranded into Barrel and Flow Fest.
It's still in Pittsburgh, it's blownup, and that's kind of where we
met this very tight knit black brewingcommunity. And from there the film just
started to evolve really and it becamequickly became you know, one pint at

(07:54):
a time, and we filmed fromtwenty eighteen until twenty twenty one and then
did post started posting the film aroundtwenty twenty into twenty twenty one, released
it on the festival circuit in twentytwenty one, so i'd say a total
of five years from research to completion, and we've toward the festival circuit for

(08:18):
a couple of years and we're atthe point now where we're not doing as
much festival stuff anymore unless we getasked and gets get invited kind of like
as a special screen to come out. We've been doing more grassroots level screenings
with you know breweries, Beer Festivaland last fight. Yeah, and it's
also one of the reasons who we'rehere. It's just just you know,

(08:43):
where the audience is very different andvery invested. At a film festival,
they come in wanting to watch hundredsof different films, and I say,
oh, this is a film aboutbeer. Well, it's not really a
film about beer. It's about theblack experience in beer. It's another version
of the African American plight in thiscountry. Yeah, and I think last
night's crowd, at least from whatI saw, a lot of people who

(09:05):
wouldn't typically if it was marketed aslike just a beer movie, probably wouldn't
have been there. No. Yeah, it was a pretty good crowd,
like one fifty plus. I wouldsay between the top of the BIX.
I got a little late and Ihad to sit like right up front,
so I was just yeah, soyeah, I just that's that's where we
we we are today. We're happyto be here in Sacramento and it's your
first time here. Yeah, howdo you like it? Come? I

(09:28):
mean, we like the weather.I mean, you know, it's supposed
to be fall and it's still likehot. I mean compared to Orlando,
Florida. It's good it's very pleasant. She could probably answer the question of
you know, liking Sacramento better thanI can, because I've been busy doing
a lot of work prior to thescreening. You're kind of more even though

(09:50):
both of your moments felt me,you're a little more like the face of
it. We're both the face ofit. But I took on joining the
board of the National Black Girls Association. Yeah, so I was here.
So I'm on the founding board ofdirectors for the National Black Birds Association.
And you know, when you makea film like this, it's what I

(10:13):
call like a social issue documentary,you hope that it'll have some kind of
impact. And essentially, last October, Kevin Johnson, who's a big important
person in this community, he wasable to watch the film, right and

(10:33):
then he looked for me, likehe went, finally found me and we
had a very long conversation and hesaid he had no idea about a lot
of the struggles for blackbirds to havetheir own brick and mortar, to have
access to capitol and whatnot. Soyou know, the film really opened his

(10:56):
eyes to these issues and it inspiredhim to really kind of like expedite this
idea. That's been kind of percolatingin his mind for a while about uniting,
you know, influential black people inthe beer community under one umbrella organization.

(11:16):
And I was very great. Iwas kind of humbled and very honored
to hear that the film had hadthat impact on him and then through him
the impact that the MB two Ahas had so far on bringing people together.
And actually most of the folks onthe founding board are in the film
in some way shape or for him. They're either featured or there's a cameo,

(11:39):
or they give an interview, orthey kind of just pop in and
out real quick. Because I sawlike a too from Crowned Hops like in
the background, yes exactly, butI was waiting for him to like show
up on camera and talk. Butlike he just kind of was like around
for all this. So I thinkthat was the beginning of their brewery kind
of really starting. Yeah, that'swhen they were shifting from dopeendank to Crowns
and Hops. So they were kindof off doing their own thing. But

(12:03):
they they're on the West Coast,and I think for budgetary reasons, we
didn't really go out to their neckof the words. Why you don't see
a lot of the West Coast brewersin there because basically finances, that's what
it comes down to. Yeah,the film is self funded. Yeah,
I think like West Coast, Imean, at least in California, I
would kind of have our little bubblea little bit more diversity than you typically

(12:24):
see in other states or be likeit's a little not that it's easier,
but a little bit Like there aremore Latino owned breweries, there are more
of that. We kind of havethat with South Florida as well. Right,
if you go to Miami, thereare more Hispanic owned you know,
breweries down there in Miami, butnot in the rest of Florida. That's
say Florida going up north, thereare not that many. So we kind

(12:46):
of have the same thing a littlebit, you know where we were from.
Yeah, So the more like youget to like Middle America, the
less you're seeing of like women ownedlike anything. It's just it's all kind
of homogenous, straight man with beards. For you, when you walk into
like a tap room for the firsttime, are there any like immediate red

(13:09):
flags like the music player, Like, is there something like when you walk
in, if this is happening you'relike, oh, I don't think this
is my vibe. No, Iwill tell you what is. It's where
the brewery is, where we actuallyend up parking, Like, seriously,
where the brewery is located to menow is more of a red flag,

(13:31):
just like a cautionary flag. Iwouldn't say red flags necessarily, but there
is some apprehensiveness because we've been touringthe film as part of a what's called
the Southern circuit, basically where wego to those areas where you know,
maybe our film might not necessarily beshown or chosen to be shown in the
festivals or smaller festivals. And wewere recently where Mississippi, Alabama, dead

(13:54):
whole region, and we didn't goto a brewery there. And it's because
you know, you have a kindof thoughts going through your head. Right
you're in the Deep South. Eventhough Florida, we're that central Florida,
it's different. So when you're inthe Deep South, there's some apprehensiveness.
But it was good. It wasfine. You know, once we got
in there, you're like, we'lljust go in and you know, see
how it is and check it out. And it's fine. And I need

(14:16):
to say I don't know. Ninetysix percent of the time, we've been
fine. I mean, actually,we've never had a really bad experience in
any brewery we've been. I thinkthat's just a nature of breweries where people
go and get together. But youknow, like he mentioned early on in
the whole conversation, people will lookat you strangely if you're the only one

(14:39):
in there, right, it doesfeel a little bit different. But sometimes
when you sit down and you getto drinking beer and then you know,
you get to talking or not,and then it's fine. But there's always
for me. I don't know abouthim, but initially there is that small
apprehensiveness, you know, when wego in. Yeah, just caution in
the back very that she was referencing. It was in uh Alexandria, Louisiana.

(15:07):
There's very small town and the brewerywas literally next to a railroad.
It was like behind some industrial areas. It felt a little bit like that.
But you know, we went in. It was all dudes, and
there was a young black man serving, and everyone was having a great time.

(15:31):
But just after like two minutes,it was just who cares, Like,
like, who cares? It's agreat time. They had a permanent
food truck in the back that servessome killer wings, and it was just
it was a really fun experience.Their beer was fantastic. And it does
come back to where we were sayingearlier, right, I when you travel

(15:52):
around and he where is there abrewery? There was a brewery there in
that small town. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like there's there's so many
choices now. And I know lastnight during the panel after the film festival,
you had mentioned, you know,being kind of a little more calculated
about like where you're drinking, whichI thought like a lot of people don't
think about. They're like, Oh, it's beer. Who cares? Like

(16:15):
it does matter? Like who yougot the money to spread? Yeah,
and do some research. Everyone.Every brewery where it's its weight in gold
is going to have at the bareminimum a website and at least the presence
on you know, Twitter, igor Facebook. So you just kind of

(16:36):
see what they're you know, whattheir story is. Doesn't mean that if
they're white owned, I'm not goingbut you know, if you'll know when
you walk in, if they're coolpeople, we'll get a sense, Yeah,
what music they're playing, what artdo they have on the wall,
what kind of events they're promoting.What's the makeup of the folks that are
there when you walk in, youknow, just little things like that,

(17:00):
I mean, and that's before youget to the beer. The beer sucks,
I ain't coming back. I mean, I am willing to go back
to your brewery with mediocre beer ifthe people are great, Honestly, like
I'll I'll drink an okay beer forlike I won't I won't drink in beer.
I'll do it ultimately because there's toomany of them, and I want
to support quality product because really,ultimately it's it really matters what's in the

(17:25):
glass. It does. But Ithink there are plenty of breweries that make
great beer and are shitty people.So I back either, Yeah, I
don't ultimately always go back. Thereare several but especially locally that I love,
that make fantastic beer. Are greatpeople, do great things. So
I'm like, okay, so whenwhen all around like my money's going somewhere,

(17:45):
I support. But I happened toa few were like there's potential,
the beer is not quite there,but it could get better. But like
everyone's great and I love what they'redoing, So I just want to keep
it around a little longer, givethem a chance to at least like grow
into what they need. That's true, But how long do you give them
a chance? So if they're ifthey have a good you know likes,
say food right attached to the brewery. But the food is good, but

(18:08):
the beer is not that great.Are you going for the food or going
for the beer? So you kindof have to make a choice. But
I do feel that at some point, yes, your your beer has to
be up there and not an afterthought, because what I noticed a lot of
group ups right, the food willbe good, but I feel like the
beer is not in up to parand it's more of an afterthought, yeah,

(18:29):
you know, than than the focuson the food. Yeah, so
then yeah, then we wouldn't necessarilygo back or something like that before this
film. Had you two work together? Is that like a normal thing you
do or is that kind of weWe we've done some some projects together.
I filmmaking is is more my careerand she's been working with me with the

(18:55):
past ten plus years five So inthe in the previous projects, I did
take on a smaller role so justbasically do anything to help do the project.
But with this one. It hasbeen five to seven years, and
this is more of a project wherewe both did a lot on the on
the film. Yes, yeah,yes, yeah, And I think it

(19:18):
turned out really well. I reallyenjoyed it. I think I told my
boyfriend, he doesn't drink at all. Heer's like my thing, which people
are so confused by. But Iwas like, yeah, I think you
would have liked it. Like itwasn't like a beer movie. It wasn't
just about beer. It's about people. It's you know, these different stories.
It's about people pursuing their passion andtheir dreams. It's like I said,
you know, use the film asa mirror to inspire. You know,

(19:44):
others could be people of color,it could be maybe not people of
color, just whatever obstacles you're goingthrough in your own lives. You look
at these folks and how much they'refighting to keep no, I mean moving
forward. Making the film inspired KevinJohnson to, you know, start the
Black Ruse Association. You had noidea what was going to happen. No,
no, not at all. I'dalways wanted the film to have a
grassroots impact on the on them.You know, this percentage of the industry

(20:10):
right to help grow it, andit's it's on its way, and the
Black Road situation has like hit theground running and a lot of people think
it came out of nowhere, butthis has been things that people have wanted
to do for years and just haven'thad the support and the like the connecting
glue. Yeah, I think onceit all came together, all these minds
let have these fantastic ideas. Justit worked so well, even just starting

(20:33):
with having National Black Brewers Day thislast week, which a local DEUS channel
had interviewed Rag from here at upPark and there was a lot the comments
were just a mess. It waslike why isn't there a White Brewer's Day?
Why isn't there like you mean everyday of the year, like we
always good those make your own holiday, Like I don't controls. Yeah,

(20:57):
I tried really hard not to fond, but I'm on disability right now.
I have a lot of free time. But also just because I felt very
defensive about like they didn't say thingsspecifically about Roger, but I took it
as like how dare Like did youeven watch an interview? Like he's such
he's so cool. Oak Park's doinglike the greatest things like community events,

(21:19):
and for people to just like seea headline and get mad that black people
are doing positive things and being celebrated. It just makes me so mad.
But we're making it happen, right, Kevin Johnson, the community, the
Association is making it happen. Peoplewho are against it, you know,
go do your own thing, youknow, and holidays for your effort into
that and your money where your mouthis right, and then it make it

(21:40):
happen, you know. I hadI think. I told one lady and
she's like, this is segregation.Why do you celebrate. I was like,
oh, it's Mother's days, segregatingmothers. And she's like, that's
different in my house. You wantto get into that. I mean white
Christmas, you know, and youknow white Thanksgiving. That's a topic.
We will not get it. Iwant to go there, lady. I
don't remember her name, but I'llcall her out. I mean, what

(22:04):
what would you say to someone wholike has that criticism. I'm not going
to give it a time of day. Yeah, I have too much that
There comes a point in your lifewhere you're like, you know, yeah,
it's not worth, it's not worthyenergy. Yeah, Like why because
they're going to insist that they're right. Now, you know what these people
are editing. I don't know ifyou watch it or what we do.

(22:26):
So they're like around they just wantto drain your energy. That's all they
want to do. So it's Imean, it's not worth it. Yeah,
it's really not. I I usedto get a lot more sucked into
it. I've been better, butjust that one. I don't know why
that hit me. The more youfeed the fire, you know, the

(22:47):
more it will burn. Yeah,it does nothing, it doesn't. They're
not gonna change my mind. I'mnot changing their mind. But I know
I'm right. So it's not we'reright, we are right. But then
you know, I came to likebut don't fast last night there was the
bottleship after and like, you know, all is great. People like this
is why we're in this industry.This is why, like this is what
it's for. These people don't matter. They're not in this industry. They
have no idea what it's like.Like you're not gonna tell me as a

(23:10):
woman in the beer industry that likeI don't have it harder than men,
and I as a like white presentingfemale, like I have no idea what
it's like to be a woman ofcolor LGBTQ, Like it's there's layers to
it where just anything that makes youdifferent is going to make a little bit
harder to get further than the industryand to be respected. I mean,

(23:32):
I I do groof fust and I'llhave like my friends help. And every
time the guys come up to getbeers, they talk to my guy friend
think he works for the brewery,and like, no, no, no,
it's me. I work here.I have the answers identify with them.
Yeah about beer, beer, Yeah, huh, something happened. No,

(24:00):
No, it's just just as awoman, you know, making films.
You know, yes, Aaron isthe face of the of the film,
but we did do it together.And once in a while, I'll
just need to movemind people. Youknow, Hey, you know my name
is Brichi Jose. You know you'reyour own person. Yeah, you know,

(24:21):
people that don't know you tell himwhat he just remind him and they
get it, you know. Butif I put myself in their shoes,
I can understand that that's annoying,that it's not fair. I went to
a brewer a few weeks ago.I was in San Diego for a bachelor
atte party. We walked in.I barely have even a minute just looking
at the menu I didn't know appearsI hadn't never been there. And this

(24:41):
guy sitting at the bar, I'massuming he didn't work there because he didn't
have the Bruce logo on them atall. He's like, do you help
with the menu? I'm like,your guys sitting at the bar, why
would I ask you for help?When there's a woman behind the bar that
works here and I asked her questions, like she can help me, but
I'm reading a menu, Like letme. I know I've had beer before.

(25:02):
I know what I like. Youdon't know what I like. I
could be a brewer for you know, seriously, I mean I know plenty
of female brewers and they get theyget that all the time. Yeah,
people walk in. I think therewas a scene in the documentary like it
was it was purposely set up thatway where she she always is miss well

(25:25):
would they they think she's the saleswoman for the brand, where she is
the brand in the tap room?Yeah, and then right after that she's
pouring. Yeah, and you know, one of the customers like you're the
Brewer. He's like yeah, andhe's like awesome, awkward for him.
Awkward that I've seen that moment Iheard about that. It's such like a

(25:48):
universal experience for women in the bearinestry, especially Brewers, because I know
a lot of them, and likeall of them have a story like that,
and usually it doesn't end up sonice. It's like condescending and worse.
But I think that's a it happensa lot. Yeah, but it's
a beautiful film though, And thefact that you know, we've been traveling
around with the film for now closeto two years or more than two years

(26:12):
now, and going especially let's sayto you know, those Midwest states,
you know, where the audience ismostly wide or even some black people,
you know, and they're like,oh wait, there are you know,
black Brewers. We didn't know thatwas a thing, or they're female brewers.
We didn't know that was a thing. And I think I think it's
you know, it's it's beautiful.Yes, sometimes you might get those questions

(26:33):
there are a little bit quote unquoteignorance, but then again, I don't
always think it's coming from a maliciousplace. It's just you know, they
want to know more they don't knowbetter, right, And that's cure,
and that's that's and that's why we'reshowing the film, and that's why we
made the film to open up people'seyes, you know, to the whole
experience, letting people know, yes, there are female brewers, there are
black brewers. They are black femalebrewers, right, they're out there as

(26:56):
well. And for anyone that hasn'tbeen able to see the film, is
it going to be readily available anywhereanytime soon or is it still just kind
of floating around at the fast.We've been working with a couple of production
companies to secure a distribution deal onlike vod and or streaming that makes sense

(27:22):
for everyone. Yeah, let meput it. Let me put it that
way. We've received offers over thelast year year and a half that make
no sense for us, especially giventhat we it was a self mostly self
funded project with Brigitta and I andanother investor, so just three of us
poured hard earned cash into the filmand sweat equity into the project. And

(27:47):
the offers that we were given fromyou know, distributors up until this point
or sales reps just it doesn't work. Yeah, you know, full stop
just doesn't work, makes no sense. We're still out there trying to firm
up some possible deals before the endof the year, so hopefully something good

(28:11):
comes from that. But in themeantime, we'll just keep doing these,
you know, special screenings because westill have tons of breweries that haven't seen
the film. You know, youknow, breweries and their community haven't seen
the film. Across the country.We've screened the film at breweries and beer

(28:32):
events as far as Canada. Youknow, we're going to have a screening
pretty soon in our hometown of Aruba. So it's yeah, I mean,
this has been a pretty international film. It's been in nine countries over the
past eight years, over one hundredfilm festivals. We've won or been like

(28:52):
received nominations for or special mentions forclose to sixty awards. So yeah,
it's it's the The reality is,it's run its course in the festival circuit.
So now it's time for grassroots andyes, vod release or streaming release.
So we continue to work hard tomake that happen and again for it

(29:17):
to make sense for our parties involved. Otherwise we just giving it away,
and we can't just give it awayand it's not fair, yeah, because
the other the company that will putit out there, is going to make
all the money, and it's like, where is our money? Yeah,
you know, so we can't dothat. And it's been a little rough,
especially to given the strikes. Yeah, well they're ending or one is

(29:38):
ended, the other one not somuch. But that has dampened things a
little bit too, because companies arefiguring that out. Yeah, and that's
kind of stopping the industry from doinga lot of business with new with newcomers,
so to speak. So keep ourfingers crossed. But it's it's not

(29:59):
a v Unfortunately to the folks listening, it's not available publicly yet if you're
in the Carolinas and in the Georgiaarea. We will be out there in
the next couple of weeks as partof the Southern Circuit of Independent Filmmakers,
but we'll have eight stops across SouthCarolina, North Carolina, and Georgia.

(30:22):
We'll have a couple of more screeningsin the Sarasota area as part of the
Center World Film Festival, but thatthat'll be it for the most part for
twenty twenty three. I think we'replanning some events for Black History Month next
year, so that we you know, we started working on that, so
that'll be pretty cool. Yeah,And if you want to know our schedule

(30:45):
and you know anything else about thefilm, you can actually go through our
website. It's a one fine filmdot com. We do have a schedule
out there for upcoming screenings. Also, if anyone is listening, it's like,
hey, you know, we wantto do a special event around the
film and have a discussion. Thatway, you can also request screening,
fill out a form, you know, tell us a little bit about what

(31:07):
the event is and we'll work withyou and get back to you as soon
as we can. And you know, and as far as social media,
we're on Instagram. I'm very activeand it's in one Fine Films on Instagram
as well. P I N tF I not the number one, but
oh n E p I N tf I l M Yes, and follow
up that way, you know,give us a following then you get the

(31:30):
updates of where we are. Yeah, I've been following for a while waiting
for can we see this? Andyou have Yeah, we during COVID Ben
invited me and Quirky is usually ourthird person. Uh, you just have
this idea, like, hey,let's do this kind of like fear film
review, which wasn't really review,It's just we talked about how much we

(31:52):
hated because we've got a lot ofmovies about here. Yeah, so are
you going to do ours? Well, this is what we're having a discussion
with you. Oh nice. Yeah, so I'm still waiting for your capsule
reviews. I loved it. Ithink it was great. I think it
sheds a light on the subject alot of people don't really think about unless

(32:14):
they're in it, And even peoplein the industry don't. Like, if
you're a white CIS male in theindustry, you might not even think about
it, Like it doesn't really necessarilyaffect your everyday life unless you involve yourself
in, Like they can be partof the Blackbird's Association, they can be
part of a DEI committee. ButI think people don't really realize the lack

(32:37):
of diversity until they're exposed to afilm like this, and they really have
to, like consider where they drink, Like, wait, is the tap
room I go to? Is therestaff all male? Is the staff all
white? That doesn't mean it's bad, it's just why doesn't it look like
the community. If you walk aroundyour city and like, Sacramento is a

(32:58):
very diverse city. If I walkin to a brewery locally, and like,
why is this all white dudes?Like why doesn't this look like the
rest of the city. What areyou doing different than other breweries that have
different staff? Like why can't youdo what they're doing? Like what's different
here? Are you not trying?Like is it the implicit bias when you're

(33:19):
hiring. I mean, there's alot of factors, but that always just
kind of like that's a red flagfor me. So just working on more
film festivals, anything else coming up, new projects ideas, also trying to
with the same group of folks,developing the concept of the film, right

(33:42):
the minority Stories in Beer into adocuseries format, And we have a couple
of ideas that we've been kind ofpackaging into like a pitch deck, and
you know, we were in avery promising position. But again, I
think that the end of the day, I think it was the writer strike
that just that kind of killed thedeal that we were working on, unfortunately,

(34:06):
so we have to kind of pivoton that. But I think in
the coming years there's so many Yeah, there's disabled people in beer, like
people don't consider like people of ADHDor like diabetes, and they have to
work events and it just it's verydifferent than the average person's experience. Or
I think there was an article recently, I forget the publication, and it

(34:29):
was several people that work for breweriesand going through their disabilities and like how
it affects. But it's just there'sso many different minority groups, under represented
groups within the craft beard and justyou don't think about until you're part of
it or you know so one,so think of think of it as that's
fodder for several seasons of captivating stories, the crap and you know, it

(34:52):
could be beer, it could itcould shift over into spirits and wine to
be told. Yeah, there's tons. Yeah, we're again trying to get
something like that off the ground andalso not easy process. I love that.
I hope it works out. Ican't wait to see it. So

(35:15):
for everyone listening, I think theyalready got your Instagram, your website.
Do either of you have your ownpersonal things you want to put out or
just just the pehone I mean know, just want to add. I mean
we're in the end, we areall We are story storytellers, so we
do work on other you know,stories of productions as well. So if
you have a story you want totell and take, maybe, hey,

(35:37):
you know, maybe we can dosomething with you. Reach out to us
at info that's I n f Oat two the number two hands twenty two
zero fingers dot com. So infoat two hands twenty fingers dot com.
That is your story. Reach outand you know, maybe you know we
can work together, you know,on on your on your story. Yeah.

(36:00):
I think there are a lot ofstories that need to be told I
haven't been able to or don't evenrealize they need to share. So I
would love to see you tell morestories. I love the way you told
this one, so I can't waitto see what you do in the future.
For me, I'm still on mydisability for my surgery March, so

(36:22):
not doing much. Still work forDrakes, but just on disability. So
you can follow me on Instagram OlaPaulina and not much going on there.
Trying to get out and do funthings without hurting myself, like today at
the People's Beer Fest at Oak Park, which is gonna be really fun.
We get right back to it.Yeah, that you talk about code switching,

(36:50):
like when I like when I walkinto a Brie with like other like
latinas and like I just I don'tknow. It gives me a different feel
like I feel like I'm home,like I hear like you have Selena's playing
when I walk in, like,oh I'm ready, you have bad Bunnies
on, Like okay, yeah sure, but Selena, it's been a pleasure.

(37:15):
Thank you so much for having uson you know today. I hope
you enjoy the rest of your staaningSacramento. This is my home city and
I love it and I have andI hope it shows you love as well.
Thank you, thank you, thankyou,