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April 22, 2025 • 86 mins
Host Ben Rice visits Sacramento dive bar mainstay Benny's AKA Q Street Bar & Grill to chat with STAB! Comedy Theater owner Jesse Jones about why he drinks well. Well, well, well, there are so many reasons and ways to pair well vodka with cranberry juice in a desperate attempt to keep costs low and your joie de vivre high!
Some might call it the bottom shelf, some might call it cost-effective drunkenness, and for others like Jesse, it's just because the flavor isn't why we're here. Walk down Jesse's long road of life, taking him from the burgeoning Sacramento sketch and improv scene to the fast-paced, high-flying, Chicago-influenced sketch and improv scene of Los Angeles in the early aughts, and back to Sacramento, where he has spread his wings to develop one of the internet's most inexplicable comedy game show/podcast/writing competitions, the long-running STAB!, which existed before its titular comedy club STAB! Comedy Theater. Bask in Jesse's well-crafted improv character stylings and scene chewing recurring characters and act outs, his self-published book, his glancing mention in the New York Times.
Are host Ben Rice and guest Jesse Jones perhaps the same person, splintered at some unknown and unknowable crossroads, forever indebted to lifting those around them no matter the cost? Or are we both just bottom shelf vodka crans, more sugar than juice, more hydrating than intoxicating? So many questions, so many answers, to be found here, on the latest episode of This Is Why I Drink...with Ben Rice. And if your questions remain unanswered, consider joining (from a vast distance) Jesse Jones on his yearly voyage to the desert for Burning Man, in search of those remains.
STAB! Comedy Theater can be found physically at 1710 Broadway, Sacramento, CA, on YouTube, Twitch, or elsewhere @stabcomedy or stabcomedytheater.com
Jesse Jones is...around, and also at those same places, nearly every hour of every day!
Thank you again to Benny's/Q Street Bar & Grill for allowing us to record - they can be found at 2013 Q Street in Sacramento or on IG @bennysofficialqstreet
You can find out more about host Ben Rice, Barley & Me, This Is Why I Drink..., and his comedy (shows) @barleyandmepod or at www.barleyandmepod.com
Intro Music: "Functional Alcoholism" by Be Brave Bold Robot
Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez
Logo by Ben Rice and Jaclyn Weiand
Mark as Played
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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
They call it functional alcoholism. But if you know anything
about Ben, he's got vision with precision microphones and the
tinkle love derision. Here about to hear what beer n be?
It's time for Barley and Me. All right, Welcome to

(00:28):
another exciting episode of This Is Why I Drink with
Ben Rice. My special guest today is the owner and
proprietor and host of all things at the STAB Comedy
Theater on Broadway in Sacramento, California. Please welcome to the
other microphone, Jesse Jones.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Hi, Hi there, Hello Jesse. His patio was quiet like
five minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh yeah, right, And we are at depending on your
history with the venue, we are at the Q Street
Grill and Bar or Benny's.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I mean, I guess I should have realized that it's
also Benny's, because one, there's a sign that says Benny's
out front, but there's also a mural with a giant
Benny's on it, which I do believe I saw last
time I was here. But it's listed on the Google
as q Screet, Barn and Grill, and there is.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
A sign for it, and there is also it's in
a window, not over the door. The door says Benny's.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'm not sure. Maybe I haven't been a business owner
long enough. The benefits of having two names for an establishment.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, if you tarnish one reputation, you can bring the
other one right in. Okay, So you're just waiting to
make this transition as needed, and then it's just kind
of serpentineing.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just it's the ebb and flow of whichever one has
the worst reputation. Oh no, we're not Benny's. We're the
Q Street Bar and Grill. Oh no, no, we're not
the Q Street Bar and Grill. Where Benny's. Okay, Yeah,
you just do it. You can just keep claiming new
ownership every whenever you want. Oh no, no new ownership.
So we're Benny's now, look back and forth.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, so, Jesse, I have to ask you, what do
you drink?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Do I think?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Is the answer?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well? Yes, actually it is. It is because I am,
have been, and likely will continue to be very poor.
So bottom shelf. I prided myself for a long time
and still do, though I haven't gone there in a while,
because I'll settle on wherever I am. But my brand

(02:32):
of choice was Grand Legacy, No d g R A
n Legacy. That's the CBS brand bottom shelf plastic handle
vodka and what have you. That was my Yeah, that's
rough stuff. Yeah, because I'm a rough and tumble sum bitch.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
How much could you get for how many cents?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's like it's like the nine ten dollars handle, like
the big one, the big one hundred, the one seven
fifty or whatever it is. The so not like your
slim bottle. That's the seven hundred and fifty. Yeah, it's
the big, big handle. Yeah, for like nine to ten dollars.
Beautiful and then just whatever. I so people I mix

(03:20):
garbage drinks and people tell me like it's a bad
thing that they taste like cop syrup. That just means
it's gonna put me to sleep. It's delicious and you're welcome.
I like fruity flavor of stuff that hides the alcohol, okay,

(03:41):
so that it sneaks up on you and it's delicious
and you get where you want to be. So right
now we have the juiciest vodka Krans that I've had
in a good long while. Yeah, but to be fair,
it's a tall and it was five dollars. That's why
we're here. Yeah, I wanted to go somewhere else. Yes,

(04:02):
they wouldn't allow you in there, correct, because I mean,
do they need to do list the reasons? Yeah? Right,
But there's a when you ask me what what drink?
Because I don't. I don't, I don't care. I don't
have special stuff because, like I say, I mixed garbage
at home. But the one thing that I have gone

(04:23):
out of my way for was the pink Lemonade at
the other establishment.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
We can talk about it because I would like to mention. Yeah,
because it's a great spot.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, I like the Mark.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, it's the Mark. Cheap drinks, Yeah, heavy pores.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I went, well, that's the thing about pink Lemonade. And
I actually went there like last year, year and a
half ago. I almost at this point, John and I
got together to talk about potential working stuff again in
the future, just random and then we wound up randomly
walking over the market and it was still like six
or seven dollars. The pink lemonade is basically a water

(04:57):
glass full of gin with a splash of grenadine. Nice,
and it's delicious, nice. But I figured my go to
is generally a vodka cranky one because it's a well
cheap sort of thing. And also because it's sort of
become a hallmark calling card of my like my my

(05:20):
improv scenes to some extent, so it's been pointed out
and it's not wrong. It's wholly accurate. My my drink
in an improv scene, like when I'm in a bar
or always, it's it's always the We didn't I almost
wanted to get the smaller ones just so it could

(05:40):
more visually represent. But it's a small glass. And this
is what I tell like my improv students when we're
working on space object work stuff. It's so it's it's
a small glass. It's got like the little divoted uh
texture on the bottom of the glass, a nice thick,

(06:03):
thick bottom uh. And I always and I always use
the stir straw. And I can't remember in my mind
it's either the black straw or the red straw or
the black straw with a red stripe. I think it's
a black straw with the red strip and I I
drink through that. You're not supposed to drink through the
stir straw. But in my scene, that's that's how I
always and it's always there and it's always stirring Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I was always a big fan of the double Barsku
and two stur straws. Drink out of both of them.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Sure, sure, that's I can see that. Yeah, I just
don't see that when i'm when I have my space
object glass Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah I get that. Yeah, yeah, my space object work
is like I don't know what this is and you
don't know what it is, and when you're doing clearly
what it is, I'm wrong about it. What are you
packing boxes? Like I'm cooking dinner, what I'm playing the
what is calling no clue? I think I could get
that one. I think I could get that one. Well, yeah,

(06:58):
it's I'm making sure the wrapping is just so, just so.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Kneeding the dough or playing the piano one or the other. Yeah,
but yeah, it's it became a very specific thing in shows.
People would see my drink. Yeah, it would become a thing.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
So yeah, I do want to address the merk thing.
I do think that what happened is because they were
asking questions and I'm trying to answer them, and they're
like very concerned that I would be filming, that I
would be interviewing their clientele, interviewing their staff. I think
the issue is because of what's happening around Lavender District.
They're like, we don't want somebody who's like pretending to
be somebody infiltrating and doing like some anti LGBT bullsh

(07:39):
on our thing. So I totally get that, and I'm like,
look better safe than sorry. I get it, no problem,
just a.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Little check though. In that Stay Up Comedy Theater, in
our seven years almost of existence, has had at least
two LGBT produced friendly highlighting showcase shows a month. For
that's what we've done, like one hundred shows and we've highlighted,
like I mentioned in the in the text, the new

(08:07):
Current recently crowned Empress uh for the entirety of that
time too. They wouldn't have I don't have known that.
That's okay, I understand, but I get it. Yeah, I
understand the hesitancy and the current climate. Yeah yeah, and
that's fine. So that's why we're not there. That's how

(08:28):
that's why we're not drinking of pink lemonade. But we
are already down one. We are because it's very cranberry
cran Yeah. Maybe maybe order.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
A cranberry vodka and then they'll change the that was the.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Problem levels probably poor, the second one heaviest.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh that could also be because there's this one tak
area up in like Citrus Heights. And I don't think
i'd do it anymore, But you used to be if
you ordered Margarita's, they'd slowly.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Get bigger the same price, all right, what a dream. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
They probably stopped that at this point, but I mean
it was going on for.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Years if you want people to keep coming back. And
that's the reason why I directed us here, Yeah, because
very broke at all times, so I always search out
the best bang for my buck. Yeah, so that's why
I'm not when you asked, what's my drink, I'm not particular.
And that's a drink yeah, boozy and cheap.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know what's funny is this is the second episode
of this version of the podcast now and both like
not really particular, just I mean I have this is
what I have, what I go for?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Like, what's that? Well, like if money is no object,
I'm made of it.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I've heard. Well, you know the number of people who
think I make a living doing podcasting in comedy is
larger than you'd think. Yeah, there's more people who think
that than dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I make it sounds about right. Yeah, I'll get a
a long each. It's like a long Island, but Cranberry
instead of coke. Okay, or it's no longer called black Superman.
It's like electric Tea, which basically just blue Kurk. I

(10:13):
say kerr account just because, but I guess it's curs
out and again.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Instead of So what you're saying is that we should
have some long beaches next.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh, I mean sure.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Put it on the podcast out all right, I got
a tab open, babe.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I guess that's true. I just don't know if there's
a patios you have to get up and that would happen.
One of us would have to do it.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I can do it. It's not a problem. But that
will allow you to talk about yourself stuff. I already
know you don't need to, you know, Jesse, you've been.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Okay, So you're gonna set me up and walk away
to prattle on. I'm gonna be talking to myself now
on this now quiet.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Patio, Yes, definitely silent.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So now it's completely so I'll be talking to myself.
You want to put a song on the juke.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Box, we don't have to get right now. We can
get it later. It's thet we could.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think the important thing is the drinking, as far
as I'm concerned, because that's who I am, suggests.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Besides being a business owner, you're also an improvisal extraordinary,
a sketch comedian and writer, and you also host the
Indescribable Unsaleable But what's the uh, the par titular podcast STAB,
which predates the comedy theater by quite some time. A

(11:36):
little bit, and before I step awaiting one of these drinks,
I would.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Like, I'm sorry, I drink so quickly you're barely I'm like.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know how this drink goes? You know. One of
the first times I saw you perform was as part
of christ Hammerheez, which I don't know, I think only
has like two hundred views on YouTube. I think I'm
a one hundred and seventy.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Four of them. Oh, there were some quality songs. The
problem was trying to memorize a song and be able
to perform it in like a week a week, So
we had I know, you're leading.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, no, yeah, I'm gonna tell you the things, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Go uh, It's just we had like maybe two of
the five or six songs that we did for those
shows that went off perfectly, And it's just such a
god damn tragedy because Marco wrote such good music and
I crammed way too many words in for the lyrics.

(12:37):
But that was on me. But it was so good.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Songs are so good, so good, and look that I
don't think. I mean, I'm sure you have a lot
of high points in doing everything that you've done, but
getting an entire room of people sing Jesus is going
to fuck us all in Heaven has to be up there.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It's it's not not. But that sort of ribaldry was
also why that version of the show didn't last.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
For some reason. Yeah. One of my other favorite lyrics,
he was hung from across and he was nailed to
it too.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, I think hung on the cross hung because you
can't say hung from because you're leading into the joke
of the nailed to it. Yeah, the thought process that
goes into my stupid scripts. You can't say hung on
it or hung to it, say he was hung on
it because that implies that he was hung but no
upon and then too, I see what the wordsmith.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
The words have to be correct or else the joke
doesn't land. Well, I mean, you still can't.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It can't. Look I'm very persnickety. Yeah, it comes to
the wordy.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm very mad that Diego Curiel has a joke about
horse crashes as with presidencies, like you know when Lincoln,
when they crashed, there's seventeen seventy six Lincoln. Those those
aren't the same thing.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's historically inaccurate, and you shouldn't. It's stupid and no
one will like you when you tell that joke, and
then it just murders. I'm like, I hate people. But
but how'd you find your way in the world and
all those adventures you had. I'll be back in fur minutes.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'll go into the spiel that I basically tell when
I'm introducing myself to students. So Ben Rice, who was
still sitting right here just being very studious and listening,
that's a good nod, Ben, that's a good nod. Well,
but there's stuff that I would say that you don't
even know. Maybe you'll you'll hear it later. Well, I

(14:41):
started in this town, that being Sakomini Secramanto. What am
I doing in well? Is it? Two thousand and two
thousand and one in a dumb ass improv show called
The Harry Dinger Show, which if you take half a

(15:03):
second you could unravel that that was a Jerry Springer
show spoof pastiche. So yeah, it was like an improvised
Jerry Springer show and that did not last long. And

(15:23):
while that was going on, freehod Comedy Troupe was on
the other side of town. I can't remember, yeah, because
we were at like the theater over by Fox and Goose,
I can't remember the name of it. And then Freehoch
was over at the Ramata on Auburn something like that,

(15:43):
but we basically started the same ish time, and I
wanted to go check him out because I was I
was more of a sketchwriter than an improviser. So I
went and checked out the show, got into that over there,
did that for what like four years or something, and
then decided I had to run down to the Los
Angeles for better or worse. So from twenty six to

(16:05):
twenty twelve I went down to La studied in private
iow West's Second City Hollywood and ucb us BLA. I
can't remember they were specific about their names. I believe
it was Second City Hollywood and used BLA So did

(16:29):
that for like six years. Then got a call to
come up and run the sketch program over at the Spot,
and I wasn't doing anything much at that point in
LA so it enticed me back. Then did that for
a little bit. Not long after I got back involved
in that, we started the STAB show me and John

(16:51):
Ross in twenty thirteen, so yeah, not very long, less
than a year after I got back in town. So
we did that, and that has been going for twelve
years now. We've done four hundred thirty four hundred and

(17:13):
forty episodes I think at this point something along those lines.
And then we opened the theater in twenty eighteen, which
was like June twenty eighteen, great time to open a
theater if you remember the last couple of years at all.

(17:34):
So then we shut down obviously as one does, in
March twenty twenty survived streaming alone. Actually did more shows
while we were streaming than when we were open in
the first place, because we were streaming like seven days
a week, multiple shows a night, and it was a
lot of fun. Then we came back around when everybody

(17:56):
else did summer of twenty twenty one and now we're
limping back along. I mean, from what I understand, getting
people back out to live entertainment is still still a
little bit of a struggle. But yeah, it's going well.
And we've made a full on, harder shift back towards improv,

(18:20):
like it was sort of meant to be in my
mind in the first place. So a lot more improv
focused started my class finally, And yeah, Sundays now are
all improv. We've got competition shows the arena. It's our
cage match, dual dual, dual, dual. That's what we can do.

(18:46):
Oh back, justin, I mean not back, I mean finally done.
Just nodding and listening to everything that I've been saying
this entire time. He's been here absorbing all of this
information so so studiously. Yeah, and that's basically that.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Wow. Yeah, I never knew that, you know, I wow.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I know there's a lot there. There's a lot there
actually is a lot that you might not even know.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
No, I know, I did. That's a question I actually
don't know the answer to, which was nice.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Because that was that was like the full on history.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, and I have no follow up questions, even though
I've first had a lot of things that I could
have followed up.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Well, that's my fault.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I should have asked a question I knew the answer to,
so I could like, I tell me how you started,
and I'm like, I don't actually know that story. So
that's my own fault. Well you got that story, and
now I haven't, and now I can come back. We'll
do another episode. I'll do all the follow up questions.
This is exciting. We've got this uh long beach and
I watched them pour the alcohols, so many alcohols into

(19:47):
this drink. Yeah, and it you know, it reminded me
of when I was a Long Island guy myself.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, and uh so.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
What okay?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, So you know, feel free to ask any follow
ups on anything that I just said.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, I will.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And and by follow ups, I mean ask me to
repeat everything that you want pertinence. You have all of
that for edit later. Yes, though it'll be hell if
I lose all the music.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
No, it won't. It'll be fine. I'm a professional. There's
a reason we do what we do here in the
live setting.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'm a but anything that you want, uh, extemporaneiz.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, extemporating, yes, So Long Islands I remember when I
was young, this is my drink of choice because it
will ruin your life.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh, maybe a heavier one that's still a lot of
grandberry and this.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, there was. It was probably a yeah, probably a
good inch.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Oh that's not bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
But I was like seeing the names like Gordon, so
I'm like, oh, I haven't seen that name twenty years.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Okay, well we're laying Was this a mistake to turn
from beer? Ben?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
No, I you had your beer, I have my Well.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I like this because it allows me talking to This
allows me talking to people who don't like drink beer
and everything.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Would drink alcohol, it would never have been a part right.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And also as as I go, I'm like, you know,
I'm leaving out a lot of experiences, you know. You know,
there's things like I'm not really a hard alcohol guy,
maybe because I haven't had my drink yet. And I'm like, hey,
you don't like beer, you just haven't had your beer yet.
I'm like, well, now I got to reverse it back
to me. Maybe I haven't had my drink yet.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I disagree with that you haven't had your beer yet.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, I mean there's obviously who are not going to
drink beer. And that's I'm not I'm not the guy
who's going to force beer on people.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's just everybody, Oh this, this tastes like like this,
And it doesn't even taste like yes, no, it tastes does.
It just tastes like beer with a Lacroix dollop of
flavor draped over the top of it. It's it's all beer.
It just tastes like beer. That's why I and maybe
that's my unrefined, shitty palate.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's your three dollars palate, piece of guard.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, well get me a ten dollars handle. Yeah, and
I can drink all night.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Let's find you the cheapest beer we got.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You're like, this is the best stuff, just to handle.
A bottom shelf buck and I can of fruit punch.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I had a King Cobra in my fridge for a
year because I was so scared of drinking it. I
was like, I'm gonna do the Ford, I'm gonna do
trashy beers, and I couldn't do it. I I pulled
the trigger on everything else. I'm also reserve was a
real stroke. I'm also the guy that every Wednesday pounds

(22:33):
a orange jubilee mad Dog on on the inside the
box stream. That's my that's my beverage is a So
we could have done that.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean we could have been stabbed, pounding mad Dog.
Idn't know that was an option.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
They're all options that the world is wide open, Jesse.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I thought we were going we had to go to
a place. The place. Could I just set up a
new a new fire pit in my backyard? We could
have been in joining bottom shelf plastic handles around a fire.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
How does it feel to be on a podcast that
you're not hosting?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's been a little while, Yeah, I think the last
one and I love him It was the Friendship podcast.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, so c J and b K.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah yeah, but again that's been probably five years or
yea something that at this point. But those are always
fun because they fed me vodka.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah sheep vodka. Yes, are they here? They shook the
thing for break time, like more vodka. Yeah, the great guys.
I love him so much, so.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Much, so much fun. Yeah, and now he's uh CD
is starting to do like band rehearsal streams. Yeah, I
accidentally saw one of those pop up, So.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, he's turning into a drummer. Used to be like
a saxophonist, and now he's getting into drums.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Wow. I also realized there was a lot of crossover
between between the the it's not woodwind because it's between
brass and skins grass cush.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, he's a I
think he's just, you know, one of those every one
of those avant garde types was like always trying to
figure out something new to do. You know, I'll learn
a new skill. That's that's I think that Tim.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
He is a He does seem to be a very
renaissance man.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Renaissance man, That's what I was trying to find That's
what I was trying.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
To find out. Now, sometimes we're gonna get far enough
into these that my fancy words are going to start sliding.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Which reminds me of the story I was gonna tell
five minutes ago. Uh So, back when I was younger,
Long Islands, where I drink of choice because there's a
bunch of alcohol in there and then a little bit
of coke to keep it sweet. And I didn't have
a palette for anything, you know, And so one time
I went I went to a friend's birthday. They're like
where we go to Powerhouse pupp and Folesome and we're

(24:55):
just gonna have some drinks and hang out. And I'm like, cool,
sounds good. But the birthday girl was actually a sober person,
and I was like, okay, thank you for allowing us.
I mean, you could pick anywhere you wanted. We don't
have to be here. But because we are here, you're
drinking water. I'm gonna drink some tea every time you
drink of water. I'm gonna have a tea every time

(25:16):
you have a water. I'm gonna have a tea every
time you drink. And about three waters in I'm a problem. Yeah,
and then I'm eight teasing and at some point they
all decide we can't take our eyes off Ben. Something's
gonna happen. Yeah, And then you know what happened, Jesse.

(25:37):
They took their eyes off Ben. That's not good, and
I disappeared.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
They had recognized the potential for problems, right, and then
no one continued to police the issue.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, because I was definitely harassing a person at the
next table over because he was a math teacher and
I was making math related jokes at him the whole night.
It's who I am, but once when I was young,
I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole. I didn't know any
I'm I was doing whatever. I was new to, drinking,
drinking heavy, So they took their eyes off me, and
I disappeared. And then I reappeared five minutes later, being

(26:12):
chased through a crowded Friday bar by security, and I
was asked to leave.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
One would assume assume.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, And that was twenty nineteen years ago, And to
this day, I have no idea what I did where
I went. I have not no clue as to what
I did to cause the entire security team to abandon
their posts to make sure that I was no longer around.

(26:39):
I assume what I did is I went to the
women's bathroom, pet and the sink. That's just I assume
that's the most likely.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Ben Rice brown out head cannon.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I mean I've never done that
any other time, But like, why would everyone drop what
they're doing to make sure that I, like, within like
three minutes.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, one would hope it was at least that whimsical. Yeah,
And it wasn't. It probably could have.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Just been Yeah, could have been just me slamming into
a server and like dropping like twenty drinks.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
It could have just been that I suppose well.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
That that would cause a scene where my friends would
know what happened, right, But they don't know what happened,
So no one knows what happened besides those security people
who I never asked.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Got an enduring mystery.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's good. Yeah, so Long Island Ice teased me, we
have astory, sure, well, but Long Reaches is my first
one ever reach.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, it's tasty. A long was since you've opened a
similar door around? I would say nineteen ish years ago.
I almost uh quit alcohol my own self. I was
also new to drinking. Went to a Halloween party and

(27:46):
I didn't really have a costume. I'm not really a
Halloween guy neither. I never do costumes. But I went
as rock and roll. Okay, yes, the concept, the idea, Yes, I.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Love a concept idea. That's the only Aoween costing all
two yea one. It's like, so, what I have clothes
and it makes sense if I describe it, It's okay.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
So I was borrowing like a leopard print fur coats, Okay,
just like silvery button coat, button down shirts, cool sunglasses
that was largely the extent, and then I think I
threw on a garbage British accent, gross rock and roll,
rock and roll. Yeah, with rock and roll, I was

(28:30):
two fisting all night. The or are they pints the
little the little flask size bottles?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh, I did not know the answer to that question.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I don't know the I don't know what that like,
twelve ounces, the eighths or whatever, something like that. Two
fisting all night. I had two in my hands, two
in the freezer that I then did at some point hand.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It was worth two in the freezer. That's what I've
heard common frase.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yes, it was two fisting jaeger Okay, yep, I did
so what it was twenty years ago and hot damn okay,
So just taking those that's a flavor overload. There was
a lot going on there, and.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Someone say something churning combination. It certainly was in more ways.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Uh one, it was largely flavorful. Coming back to Yeah,
So that was in a neighborhood, like puking in a
in a gutter, like I don't know if it was
on or buy someone's tire, just laying up against a
car and it was just being helped back. So having

(29:34):
four of those bottles, just two fisting for a couple
hours nearly. I mean, I know I didn't drink either
of those for a while because that was that was
a problem.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, Yeahgermeister, I used to have that in my feesa
all the time. Sure, because I love black liquorice. Yeah,
so why not I get the version that gets you drunk, obys,
and then you drink it for like a year, you're like, oh,
I'm never doing again, I still have my drink. Actually
it's not. It turns out it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I I would. I think I gravitated to it because
so many people didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, it's a it's a divisive drink, and you're young.
You're young, and you want to beat you're a different
you're an individual.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So it was just oh, yeah, you don't like it,
Well I do.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I think that's the entire marketing campaign of Yegger
Mice probably, and that's why like nobody over twenty four.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Drinks also fair. But yeah, I had some of the
freezer for a good long time. It's probably only been
a couple of years that I haven't had some of
the freezer.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh yeah, I had a bottle of the freezer till
I was like thirty two. Yeah, like I haven't touched it,
so I was twenty five, but it was in the freezer.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I think the last time I had it before, I
like drank it as I was moving out of the
out of that previous place, just to finish it off.
I think the last time I had it was like
when Lemmy died, I decided, yeah, I got a pound
some yegger for Lemmy.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And also, I don't know if you know this, you
can't actually go to that music been down the street
without saying the name of it properly, which is of
course the Spades Spades, And that's the only way you
can't say it once Well doesn't.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Even But the problem then is isn't that defunct? What
do you mean? Is that not still an operating venue.
It is still operating, it is. I didn't think things
are still going on there.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
They are still delayed. Yes, they do not give that impression.
It's wide open, baby.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Okay, I didn't realize. I thought I thought Ace of
Spades had had gone away.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Very much active, in fact, refused to just played their
final American show ever there.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh well, they refused to do any more North American shows. Yeah,
all right, well we we we took our stroll down
terrible terrible alcoholic choice has been relaying what else is this?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh? Yes, so this is a just a getting to
know know you, your life, your your your time in comedy.
We did that.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Spun out of the question is this Uh? Is this
like the last the first time you've done a podcast
that you didn't host in a while? Question? So we
took a ten minute jaunt on that.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Well, look, this is not an interview podcast. This is
a storytelling podcast like getting to know you podcast. This
is a go where it goes podshort.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
We're discovering a lot of things. What's right, We're going
on these journeys and I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And I just want to and I feel like I
need to heap all sorts of praise on you because
you're just a brilliant, brilliant writer a lot of people.
And also another thing that I love about you is
when you had my friend Andy Zooker one time on
a cl I know It's time.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh okay, uh oh no, And he was a.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Guest, he was a guest on it, and he was
talking about his he own a moving company. Yeah, and
you and he was talking about like the weird people
guest to deal with, and one of them was like
a like unruly six year old. And so you did.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
A character that was smoking baby.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
This is a smoking baby character. Yes, yeah, a one person,
one person's skeed or sorry, improvised scene with no one
else for like eight minutes, and then someone dared enter
and like no one was like, everyone's like, why is
this person entering the scene? No one's supposed to enter

(33:17):
the scene. That's all the audience is, like, we killed
the vibe man.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's always been the issue in the time with ACL.
A lot of great people, a lot of great performers
in there, still going strong. Yeah, no, still what they're
probably coming up on twenty issue years at this point, Well,
the theaters coming up on twenty years, so the show
is probably close to that too. Yeah. But always had
a problem with silence and with h leaving solo stuff alone.

(33:49):
And that's understandable, right, because it's supposed to be a group.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, but like you're killing, you're killing, and like the
character was so well, like.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I can't story with the details of the smoking baby,
but I remember the Smoking Baby.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just swearing and like I think
you were yelling at the movers who were not on stage. Yeah,
because you don't need them. No, you don't need them Barsada.
They are movers, so you know what they're doing. They're
moving stuff. We don't need a visual reputation about do
we know it? We want this baby call.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Out anything that they're doing, so they don't need to
be there.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
And rasin yeah yeah, and also be smoking a cigarette,
smoking baby, yeah, and maybe putting a cigarette out somewhere
possibly possibly you know, throwing things. You know. It's just
a wonderful scene.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I'm glad the Smoking Baby has endured.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh oh yeah, incredible stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And then so with the have you properly explained the
Stab podcast? Do you think have you ever properly described it?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
If I had been able to ever at any point
in the last twelve years, there might be an audience. Yeah,
and we might not have been ripped off like two
or three times by several Chris Hardwick vehicles.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
That have a tweeting frenzy. I would say, hey, we.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Got a puppy, I got a little pupper.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, this is why you come to your bar they
charges five dollars for abouka crants.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, and I assume this was fairly reasonable undertow I
didn't ask. Oh, okay, well then I might just give
you the drink.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I'm hoity toity. I've I did my taxes yesterday. I'm
lost with cash.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I did mine this morning.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
How did it go?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Oh? Weller than I expected.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Hey, as a business owner, that's pretty good. Well as
a teacher, yeah, they should have small business owner and
tiny business.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Owner yeah, just very very tiny, always losing money business.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Owner, yes, just hammered and cash.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, but we got I mean, I don't know, I
don't know. Maybe I'm loose enough. We did get a
little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Small venues grant money.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, wet and our beak on that.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
So, I mean, look, the truth is, if you're going
to pursue arts, you need that support.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Sure, most people, though, take the.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I won't pursue arts tact.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
No, I'm going to eschew my my superlatives in my
describing some of these taxs, the nonprofit roots which allows
oneself more opportunities for grants and additional money. I was

(36:37):
a dummy who thought, no, I'm going to be a
business man, Yeah, that's no.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Charts and tables don't do that, and business plans plans
I will hold to.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
But yeah, the fact that it's still alive is largely
through my own stubbornness and stupidity.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, I think that's uh how art works. You're just like,
at one point gonna pay off, or I'm gonna die
a popper and that's okay, Sure someone will save me. No,
or the world will end and that's hey, the world ends.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Aren't we all rooting?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
All the world end? All deaths are off? Some say
all beds are off. I say, all des.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Go ahead, make me pay for something.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The world exploded? Good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
The Stab show, What is it? Why is it? How
is it?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I mean, I think if you answered that second question,
why is it?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Why is it? It is Okay? Actually, the why is it?
The why is it is actually a lot more important
than any of the rest of it to me, because
it's because it started and continues to exist as a

(37:55):
thing because I wanted to do All of my heroes
did stand up, but I didn't really want to do
stand up there because stand up requires doing the same
shit for months, if not years on end, just repeating
the same material, honing it, changing it a little bit. Yes,

(38:17):
I know, but I don't like doing that. I don't
like repeating stuff I don't Which is why sketch worked
for me, which is why then improv worked for me,
and then which is why the STAB show worked for me.
Because I write shit for one show and then it
goes away and I never have to do it again.

(38:40):
That and it was a place an even playing field
for improvisers and stand ups and sketch writers and humorists
and whatever else.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
We're all creative, we're all and it's quick. Yeah, quick turnaround,
no real there's editing time, but not a lot, not
a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
But it was a place where people from across disciplines
could interact in ways that they couldn't otherwise on an
even playing field. So that was an important part of it.
But the most important part was it let me do things.
It gave me an outlet every week basically. So the
amount of content that I wrote for that while I

(39:17):
was on the right side of the stage.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Was immense, almost like you could make it a compendium.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I could. I've got at least four or five more
volumes that if I had time, I could put them out.
I do have the volume one Deep Cuts, the some
of the best of STAB.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, but Jesse Jones only edition.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well sure, I can't collect the other people stuff, right, Yeah,
but that was just the way that I could figure
out how to reuse that material that otherwise was used
once and then went away. But I've got I have
outlined I've collected at least four or five more volumes
that if I sat down in the editing process putting

(40:00):
a book together was quite a pain.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, let me tell you, if you wanted to follow
the stab ethos, there would be no rhyme or reason
to why one is next to the other. Well, sure,
I mean I guess there is kind of I put.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I have been putting a lot of too much thought
into it, maybe because because like assembling a sketch show,
I have to give it a proper EBB and a flow.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You need to make sure there's like some sort of
reason to continue just so that. But to me, it's
a bathroom book.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well yeah, it's also a bathroom book.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's a great bathroom book. It's been in my bathroom
for years.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Hell yeah, with.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
A signature in it.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Damn almost Like that's probably worth nothing, almost like.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I know you and you're just in the street, and
I also want to support your business.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well I appreciate that, but yeah, I love the dang thing,
and one of these days I'll figure out how to
market it and it'll have the audience that it's said.
Have you ever now? So this is this is a
little pitch your idea.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
No, this is not an idea. I'm sorry, this is
I'm sorry. This is actually I mean that in the
history of stun it was initially hosted by one Jonathan Ross,
John Ross and four fact yes, and then eventually things happened,
and then you took over hosting and you were no
longer the third or fourth chair, depending on the season,

(41:22):
where there used to be four chairs and now it's
three chairs. But you were initially, for a long time,
the fourth chair or third chair, as the case may be.
Do you see yourself returning to that chair?

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I was forced to a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Really, Yeah, Blake, we did all those episodes that I
somehow overlooked.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Oh it was just the one, just one, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I probably did hear then.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I don't want to be coughing and its goddamn thing
for the rest of this drinking period.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Cheap alcohol in an outdoor area in the beginning of
Fever season. Was it called allergies?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah? I thought I was good with allergies, but apparently not.
No would I go, I will.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
People have have asked, begged to host, but oh sorry,
I thought for returning to the chair. Well, no one's
begged to host.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Beg people beg to host so that I could do
the panel, which is nice. It's nice, but at the
same time, you sort of want people to remember it
being good. You don't want to necessarily come back and
the bed.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Not not the show you yourself. Yes, okay, so when
you say it, you meant yourself.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Remember it the the memory of me on the panel, okay,
being good?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Okay, Because I thought you were taking a dig at
your own show.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Oh well, the show is a banger every week.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
And like, and here's the thing, you did a really
a really great pivot during COVID to going online with
a lot of stuffy but coming back out of it,
people still are so comfortable with just doing it online,
I would hope. And then you're like, well, I'm charging
money for people, let show up in person. But the

(43:06):
people that are online can just show up at their
convenience from their home on their own schedule, watched it
on YouTube later whatever. Yeah, that's why the create I
think that creates like, obviously a weird space for you financially,
but also it creates a weird space for the performers
when a lot of the audience is at home.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Well yes, for the most part, Well, I don't know.
I never wanted to charge anything for watching it at home.
It's like TV, though the most TV now is subscription.
Everything costs, But I always thought it was more important

(43:46):
for it to be available. Yeah, I mean it started
as obviously people have to be home, Yeah, so let's
watch that. But actually didn't even quite start like that.
I was I was smart enough smart in quotes, guys
don't get crazy, uh, to have started playing with streaming
like a couple months before shut down. So that's what

(44:09):
made it easier to make their advantage because yeah, and
so yeah, we we provided that to the world to
whatever extent. For the most part, the online audience isn't
necessarily huge though. For the Sunday improv shows now that
are all like competition shows, the arena Improviser, dual, dual duel,

(44:34):
those have been pulling some like pretty big for US
online audiences, which does make the Italian votes somewhat difficult.
But yeah, I don't mind because you're an artist.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
You're like, I just want people to see what we're doing. Yes,
but the money is a secondary thing, tertiary.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, and you're you're also very effectively explaining how artist
very directly equates to bad business person as well.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, we're terrible at it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, so I would love.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
To be good at it, but it sounds like a
nightmare to be good at it.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Well, I'd like to being good at it would be nice.
But it's so much work, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
And I'm not I'm not in this to be doing work.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Well, I'm I'm working constantly. Yeah, that's the thing, just
producing everything. Yeah, it's so much and keeping the thing going.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Why do you even have anywhere to live besides that space?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
If I had a better sleeping situation, I might We're gonna.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Build you a cot up at the top level people
have talked about just through the ULI method. You know,
just get up in those rafters, baby.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I mean, I haven't checked the rafters. It's probably not
crawling with spiders.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And but also fire works. Hold on, that's not true.
Don't do that. Well, I should probably put it on
the red actually burn the spiders out.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Oh no, that wasn't my plan. Yeah, don't do that,
but for reinforcing my not wanting to do that.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
But also what about fireworks? What about fireworks just just
setting them off?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Fireworks across the streets in the in the like behind
the old car wash. Yeah, every once in a while
you'll just hear mortars just go off, ye explosion. It's
just oh no, everybody, it's fine, it's fine. It's just
fireworks directly across the street for no reason.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
For no, it's it's it is twelve oh three am.
It's not that it's exactly. That's closer because there's still
shows going on. Yeah, but why are we just one
random three random fireworks just want to show that they
can get away with it. That's the thing about laws,
you know, it's like it's illegal. What can they stop me.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
It's also the thing about small business ownership on Broadway.
Oh good times.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yes, uh, and it's just a small business owner trip
in Sacramento and you know, in a caliber it's in America.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Good time.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
But hey, you remember that time you were in the
New York Times.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Oh the name of the theater was mentioned.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, they had, I believe.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
No, No, it was just like two or three days
after shutdown. It was talking about these theaters or are streaming.
They were talking mostly about like UCB out there, but
then it's also this place and STAB Comedy Theater. Oh
that was weird, interesting that you found that. Yes, also
been Remember the time when I was a pandemic hero.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yes, weren't you so?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah? Well that that so much.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Well, much like the Safeway workers and the Walmart workers
and the Amazon workers, No one gives a fuck about
you anymore. You had your time to shine and you
wasted it.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I squandered so many things.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
You squandered the whole opportunity squad. And let me tell you,
the public was clamoring.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
To let you, and why wouldn't they?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
And here it is five four, three years later, depending
on how you do the math on whatever we're talking about, Sure,
and when and where and why and how and when?
Everybody did the and and good popular consensus and also
different varietals, you know, like drinks. And here you are

(48:26):
still in business.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, and it's it's.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
It's ticking up it's got the ebbs and flows of
live entertainment.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
It helps me feel better as people come in and
tell me, no, others aren't doing that great. Apparently it's
still tough to get people back out to live entertainment. Yes,
which that's fair.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
And also, I don't know if we talked about this
when I was away, because I wasn't here for that
part of our conversation.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I mean you were there just nodding, very very.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
But I was not paying it. I was totally tuned out.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I saw you zoning, Jesse.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Are you are you a Sacramente or native?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yes? Really, yes, Okay, I mean technical technically born in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Well yeah, yeah, but you can't control that, right, I'm
technically born in Massachusetts. I was there for two months.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
That's pretty much the same timeline. Are we the same persons?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
There's a lot of overlapping this episode, and it was.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
A little bit kind of terrifying. Yeah, but no, all
my life here except for the six years that I
went down to La to pursue dreams and Billy bitch
so dumb.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
No, but you did?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I did?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
And how did we already talk about how it went?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
We touched?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Did you have some minor touches with success. Now you
have nothing that told you you've made the right choice
for no, no, no, no at all. Well do you
ever just just like there it is, I can almost
touch it, and then they're like fuck you.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
No, no, not strictly, but but Sharna, Sharna Halpern did
thoroughly liked me when I was doing a workshop with
her and asked why I wasn't on a house team,
a question I also had. Yeah, but but that's aged
poorly because Sharna is not viewed in the same.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Light in five as in two thousand and six, not with.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
The same sort of gravitas. But that's my one thing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Well, remember I'm the guy who is blocked on Twitter
by Kyle Kanaane but also booked it for his first
show outside of COVID. Well, yeah, so you know, it's
a life is an experience of things, ups and downs,
hits and misses and second chances.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I suppose.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, I had a bigger point to make, Okay, but
I forgot.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Well, were a couple of drinks in there, We are
a couple of time.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I'm a long beach in.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, I can hear it.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, my voice has changed my demeanor has changed. I
can't get a smile on my face, but I'm not happy.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Ellie was. I miss it to some extent. Definitely got
a lot of good, good improv training, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
But it is a grind. It's a little machine that
grinds you to pieces.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
And it would have been good if I had participated
in that machine. The problem was I'm not that social
or sociable, and that's very important. It was less about yeah,
it was less about talent what you did on stage
or talent yes, then hanging out at the bar after shows.

(51:55):
And I was too poor to afford drinks, so I
would just I would go do my show, then go home.
But it was much more important. The best advice that
I ever got down in LA was in my last class.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I asked, you're like packing up to leave, pretty much like, hey,
if you ever come back, keep this in mind.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
It was my last It was a UCB sketch writing
class with I can't remember his name on the top
of my head, but basically said, I want to say
towards the top of the class, like first couple of weeks,
maybe the first week of class, it was I would
not hire any of you, I would hire my friends,
the people that I know, that I trust that I

(52:38):
could work with. So get to know these people, network
work with these folk so that if they do something,
maybe they can bring you along to that, or if
you do something, you will bring them essentially paraphrasing more
or less, that was the message of that, and it

(52:58):
was okay, well cool, where are you six years ago?
You could have helped me with that. Problem was. I
also didn't know how to how to get started writing
down there. I went down wanted to pursue writing, Yeah,
but I went into improv because that's what everybody did
when they went down there.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
So I didn't know, Well, how do I though get
on like a show.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Like allows me to write for because I'm such a
good writer.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Just being a pa bitch to get involved in a thing.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
How do I dip my toes and then eventually get
my ink in the company? Well you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
All of those things. Then I chose wrong paths because
I was in the same class with with one guy
Ben's Seaman.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Simon Stiller.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I can't I think it's I think it's pronounced Simon,
but it's spelled kind of like semen. Okay, I can't
remember at this point, it's been so long, but he's
had a semi successful writing career because I thought I
had to be like, uh, loyal to a theater, so
I stuck with Io when he we were in the
same class, like through several levels of IOL. He went

(54:00):
over to UCB and then from there went on to
be like teaching there and getting jobs through there, and
he's he's written for several animated series and all these things.
It's a struggle though, still, and I see him posts, oh,
looking for the next job. Yeah, that's sort of the
grind of that sort of.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Thing, especially as you get older, because there's also an
age thing and we need the we need the fresh
new take, and this thirty eight year old man is
not going to provide it. But it was.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
It was great, and I should have followed in his
chosen direction rather than oh, no, this is my theater.
I'm gonna Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
The dirty secret that I think you teach all children
is that loyalty does not pay well. And it's but
we teach it. We teach loyalty, and it never pays off.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Never.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
It's all just people more powerful than you taking advantage
of the thing that they know they'll give, then you'll
give them, yeah, like they'll yeah, yeah, I can trust
this guy to do the work and then we'll pay
him fucking nothing because he's so loyal. It's a dog
shit world out there, and we should tell our kids.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Sure, Yeah, let's start them off in the world with that.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I think it's fair. I'm like, because I've been thinking
about it a lot with my daughter, Like, i gotta
tell her that the realities of this world, you know,
Like I'm a good networker. I don't even know that.
I'm pretty good.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I've gathered that. Yeah, pretty good at it.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
And I'm like, the day I figure how to monetize
what I do, it's over for all you bitches, and
I'll never I'll never have any clue how to do that, Yeah,
because like what value is this really?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
And well, coming back to the work of things, I'm
too busy keeping everything afloat to then have the time
to figure out how to convince people to come see it. Yeah,
So it's just give me ten more hours in a week,

(56:05):
and maybe I can do that.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
But it's just it's the same problem that everybody has,
is time and money. If I had the time or
the money, I could do the things like and it
would I would shine, sure, And instead you're just kind
of a building up moss, like a rolling stone, sure,
like rock and roll on a Halloween.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah. I don't know if those the combining of those
metaphors quite worked, but I'm gonna I'm gonna allow it.
All right.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Well I tried.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, two hours, three hours, almost an hour.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I see that's an hour fifty six minutes.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Oh yeah, I guess that is about an hour. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, we're doing pretty good as a person who's like,
I'm gonna keep it thirty forty five and I know
I never will.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Oh, I didn't realize that was the goal.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
No, no, I no, I say it and I never
mean it. I think I mean it, but I can't
accomplish it because I liked to people sort and knowing things.
And we've also had the drinks, So Jesse, besides comedy,
what are the other things that make Jesse Jones drink
his dog shit cheapest drink possible?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Well that's that started off as a good question, and
then I came back.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It was gonna be a great question, and I'm like,
let's how can I like this.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
It wasn't the quality of the question. It was the
continued addition. No, it was the content that you were
you were asking for. Why what is it that makes
you drink? Is essentially where that went and that's not
that's not great, Ye, so.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I like to view it. So let me please just
so we have the chance to do this early on
in the the new version of this this is why
I drink is more of a like, Hey, these are
the things I like to accomplish. It, by the way,
in order to do that, I have to stay alive
in whatever format that may be. If it's peppermint tea
or the cheapest well drink that's available, or just a

(58:00):
glass of water? Why do we drink to continue our
goal of maintaining our water lever and all bodies to
be who we are?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
M hmm. I don't if I if I had an idea,
I don't know. Why do I do what I do?
Is that what we're what we're reaching for? Or what
do I do? Aside from from the comedy, you.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Don't go crazy from trying to some slamming your head
against the wall like some sort of salmon against the day.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I don't have a whole lot else, which maybe is
good because coming up for air might also require looking
behind and seeing where I've come from and what I'm doing,
and what's what's going on and or what's being lost
or overlooked. And this is getting too deep. The only

(59:00):
other thing that I do, I'm I'm wearing right now
is all my it's all my stuff. Is I just
head out into the desert. Yeah, and that wasn't necessarily One,
it wasn't necessarily something that I thought about until it
came about. And two it's still not necessarily something that

(59:23):
is in line with my overall personality.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
It's you're a big birding man guy, and yet you're
a pretty uptight guy.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I wouldn't say uptight. I'm not clenched cheeks. No, I'm
just not see the thing. Okay. So I've explained this,
and I mentioned it in my class, and I mentioned
it in general to people, and I think this is
a common thing with a creative type. Again, air quotes. Guys,

(59:59):
don't think I'm a I'm referencing myself as a creative
type that I am infinitely, infinitely more comfortable on stage
in front of an audience than I am one on
one interacting with people. Yes, in social environments, in interpersonal business,

(01:00:26):
I am terrible. I can't, I don't. But on stage
I'm perfectly comfortable. I can be more what I would
like to be, which has kind of helped or I
have found a way to make that work out in
the desert because I've been volunteering with the radio station here,

(01:00:50):
the BMI R for the last seven ish years, and
I've had airships for like at least the last four
or five years, So I get to do radio out there. Nice.
So I'm interacting and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Doing characters and voice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, well not even that. It's just hey, here's my music.
Here's the stuff that I found and nice stuff that
I play. And I've got like mashups and covers and
these weird things that I just like that I get
to share. Over the last couple of years, I've become
more and more comfortable, because it takes me forever to

(01:01:25):
get comfortable with people. Yeah, outside of like the last
couple of shows, the last couple of regular Excuse Blende shows,
or just the entire run of this show, which is
like four five five years at this point, Andy will
book people that I've never played with that I've barely
ever even seen. And that's perfectly fine because on stage

(01:01:48):
I can do that. I can just I can do
with the thing. But there's people that i've been camping
with for like four by well i've only been camping
with them for like three or four years that I'm
still I don't up to last year, I didn't feel
like I was a part of the group because I'm
terrible at making friends one yeah, or being comfortable in

(01:02:11):
an environment. Though last year I felt like it was
my best year. It was the most fun. I went
out and danced on morn night. I don't dance. I'm
not a dancing guy. That's not me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
That's crazy. I feel like you would be a huge
dance Oh not you. I mean not a good dance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I don't need your facetious I don't. I felt like
I was doing real good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I was also several drinks in and that helps. But yeah,
but I felt like I'd gotten more integrated into the
world and into the into my camp. And I'm looking
forward even more this year because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
It's year to it or year four or five.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Well, it's year but with this group fifty well yeah,
but with this group or Yeah, there's no real time
table on when I become comfortable, but but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Every every chance is another chance to get more comfort. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
And I felt like last year was it was really good. Yeah,
I feel like going out this year is going to
be I'm much more a part of this. Yeah. I
was lamenting bemoaning a lot this year, this last year
about not feeling like I was a part of this
the thing like, I'm still I felt like I was
an outsider, but I felt I felt like I crossed

(01:03:24):
that that bridge, even if part of that was being
the d D for a guy that needed somebody to
drive him around, uh to to things late nights while
they were just on acid or whatever was was the issue.
And was told that that I helped that be their

(01:03:45):
like best night ever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, so that's cool, And he said, sure, You're in
his memory forever. He's the guy that helped make that possible.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, and he's a big part of that camp. So
that that helps. But no, that's the only other thing
that I do. I don't know, this is the thing
that I do. This afternoon, on my lunch break, I
went to the Cave and picked up you know the cave.
No it's basically the Dimple oh okay, basically what replaced Dimple

(01:04:15):
Okay and picked up the Clean Record Store Day exclusive album.
And also for the last year and a half that
I've been at this job, I've been going there. They
have these bins that have like loose cards, so I've
been picking up like garbage pill kids and that's nice.
That's a big part of my life and my childhood,
and I collected you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Know, it reminds me. You have a village.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I do. Yes. I haven't been able to take the village, yes,
which reminds me of the first camp that I was
a big part of, uh ten years ago, that they
can all be not a part of my.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Life time Time opens all wounds, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yes, well, and that that speaks to the village because
I haven't been able to set it up the last
couple of years. Yeah, so you're reminded me of the
of the things I actually enjoyed my life. My Christmas Village.
It's a department fifty six is the brand and the
specific category or subset is the Christmas in the City
UH collection. Yeah. Go to my go to my instagram

(01:05:24):
from several years back, and you will see the stories,
which one of my creative highlights, my my stories of
my Christmas village. But I haven't been able to set
it up the last couple years because I haven't had room.
This year, Oh it's getting it's getting hell is set up.
I'm even thinking of a like green screen and backgrounds

(01:05:44):
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
And okay, you can get a real village going.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah, I mean I almost want to set it up
now because I have room. But yeah, it became a
I don't know why I got into it, but I
love it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I just fell into it. Like it's like I
have this train set, and now I've got to build
things around the train. Obviously I don't even have a
train set. You don't have a train set.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
It was just why would I get into these porcelain
Christmas village fucking things? Why? I don't know, But I'm
heavily into it. Yes, and I love it because so
I set them up without thought. It's just, hey, this
looks kind of cool. This. I need people here to
populate the street and so it looks full. And then

(01:06:29):
I just take pictures and tell stories of the characters
in this weird city that I've concocted, and and the
characters have continued through subsequent years, of course, because.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
They've grown and they've gone through tragedy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
And I suppose yeah, because I remember, or I'll look
back through my feed, Oh that's who this was, and
that's what they're seeing was the previous year, and it's
just all right, what's this character? And so yeah, it's
year long progressions of these fucking Christmas village stories. I'm
looking forward to being able to do it again because
it has been a couple of years, so that'll be nice.

(01:07:12):
They had city names and because I had to set
them up in different parts of the room because I yeah,
so yeah, I have weird, nonsense, bullshit fixations. I got
into the Funko pops when I got my job because
I hadn't been able to buy anything because i'd been
living down to the felt my entire fucking life. So

(01:07:33):
I treated myself. And yes, I got into funkos like
ten years after it was a thing. But I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
My sister does Funko pops. Yeah, I'll never understand it,
but I know I think I will understand it. I
just haven't made the effort to understand why they're what
they are and what the goal is it's nothing. That's
just that's just me being an old croggy man who's like,
I don't that's not my thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
The thing for me is most of them are properties
that didn't otherwise have merchandise.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Okay, yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
So these are like the only representatives, the only figures
of a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Because they'll make one for you special, right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
And I had it was one of the sweetest things.
Sweet little little Jeff Brown Brown got me a custom
pop of myself. It did come on the heels of
him mercilessly mocking my having gotten into funko on a

(01:08:40):
STAB show. So I guess has an apology got me
a custom one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Well, I feel like Jeff's love, which is roasting people
he loves, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
That's the entire thing with the mom Hat family is
just shitting so hard on each other. That's Kim Martell,
Kim Martell, Jojo Lewis, Jeff Brown, Jeff Brown, and ancillary
Emma Haye.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Kind of like Luke say, and every once in a while,
maybe Luke, I don't think. I don't think it's part
of it officially. I think Emma comes in and out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
But I think because the core is Kim, Jeff and
joj absolutely and then Emma is definitely the fourth Beetle
of the group.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
She's the she's the ringo, she's the she's the Peter
guy that he was there at the beginning and no
one will ever actually recorded with them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
No, it's Pete Best. And I only remember that because
of the articles of him recently announcing he was retiring.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Oh from the Beatles. I mean, yes, yeah, Well sometimes
you're the best and sometimes you're not allowed it in
the Beatles, and it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yeah, yeah, I want to go off on another random
tangent that you have opened up. So I'm going to
welcome you can edit this. I don't give a show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
But speaking of Pete Best reminds me of Queen. Queen
is my big I would say, definitely my favorite band.
Ok I mean, I just bought They're pretty great. I
just bought a fucking five track, a thirty dollars five
track demo from the record store. It's like from it's

(01:10:21):
the demo tapes from before their first album.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Okay, okay, so like they're like pitched to the record label.
See like sign Queen, Yeah, nineteen seventy one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Something those along those lines. Maybe earlier. It wasn't earlier.
It was definitely in the seventies. I always want to
say it's like three or four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Yeah, I think seventy six was kind of their big break.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Anyway, carry on, but I got I just got that.
This afternoon there was a it was a record store
day thing. I didn't want to go to record store day.
I thought maybe if I go to cave after, they'll
have leftovers, and they did. But still thirty dollars for
a five track demo. That's how But.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That's how I get you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
This is a complete fucking non sequord of Tangent, except
it relates to Pete Best. If you keep any of this,
this is nonsense. I was giddy when the Bohemian rhaps
Dy movie came out a couple of years ago, handful
of years ago at this point, probably yeah. And part
of the soundtrack they put out a song from Smile,

(01:11:28):
which was the band that immediately predecessed Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
So not that Brian Wilson two thousand and four Resurgence album, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
No, it was the band's Smile with Brian and Roger
Brian Wilson, Brian May and Roger Taylor and the lead
singer Tim Staffle, who was replaced by Freddy to become
a queen. It it warmed my heart that they did
the song and oh it's doing all right there it is.

(01:11:59):
I was gonna kill me. They released this song on
the soundtrack and like they re recorded it and had
Tim do the vocals on it. Nice, which is nice
to wet his poor beak after being left out of
this legendary band. So he got got to be a
part of the thing on a track in a in
a biopic almost fifty years later.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Someone pounds a biopic and that's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
That's what I've heard is that's pronunciation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
It's not correct.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
That's I agree, but I believe that's what people are
going with.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Hey, send me your bia, send me your bia for
the promotion.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
But it was just a reminder of Peede Best, who's
Tim Staffle, the lead singer that couldn't make it, but
then got got a track on the soundtrack of the
biopic of the band that replaced him. So that was
kind of nice. He probably got a little bit of
money out of that, which was nice. That felt good. Yeah,
it was a feel good story. Yeah, weird ass tangents.

(01:12:59):
So if we're distilling my essence, okay, it's it's the
stab show, it's improv, it's sketch, it's comedy riding it
in general. Then we get down to I'm I'm not
gonna yank my shirt off right now. I can show you.
I'll show you later my inspiration arm I got into

(01:13:21):
tattooing in the last couple of years, did you yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Yes, red.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Stick and poke Ship, hottle wild.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Oh, it's no. It is like just one more level. No,
so many. It's like one more layer, but so many
layers of cutaneous fat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Well, sure, I'm working on it. I'm working on it.
I'm back to the gym. And by the gym, I
mean my garage.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Yeah you can't. Who has a membership. That's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
I stopped doing that. So yeah, that and then like
guard Shook Kids and my Crystal Village and Queen and
Misters Science Theater. That's the main piece over here, the
things that go into end Booze Shore, the things that
go into the tapestry of the nonsense that has created

(01:14:08):
this highly unsuccessful individual creative Sure, sure, I'll grant that
I've mentioned I'm just chatting at this point. Sure, I've
mentioned there's very few things that I have, like any
real actual ego about that I have any pride in.

(01:14:30):
But I feel like my writing I can stand behind
because I helped Jess Roberts write a script for Kevin
Smith's short film festival thing and it was nice to
be able to write again. It reminded me, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yeah, I do have this skill set. I'm not just
a business owner who hosts this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
So I banged out like a ten page script that
I was proud of. Otherwise I have no pride in much,
but I'll I'll allow a little bit of ego. I
think I can write, so and I know you can.
You wait, I can't just be u uppy about it

(01:15:17):
and then then poo poo you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
For We're not good at core. We're not good at.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I'm very not good at it absolute worst.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
So I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
There is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
That's that's Jesse Jones and that's why this is why.
Uh anyway, Jesse, before we go, you have to do
the thing that I make everybody do, which is, of
course show me your balls.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I'm sorry it is going into another piece of me.
Uh go to karaoke song? What is this do you not?
Oh Ben, you're killing me. You're killing me right now?
Wait for it? Almost there, wait for it. Another, have
a bar here it is you are killing Yeah, there's

(01:16:13):
video of there's video of me doing this in the desert. Okay,
there's some karaoke out there. I've done it a handful
of times and one of the other places.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
How did I not place this now that it started?
How did I not get piano man? Because it's the
most reviled song in human history, the most reviled song
in human history.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
That's that is clearly Africa by Toto.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Everyone Loves Africa by Tona?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Why would anybody love?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Everyone Loves Africa by Toto?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
A terrible song?

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Did you know Toto was Michael Jackson's backing band for
all of his classic albums. I mean they wrote the
music for Bad, the entire album. That's Toto.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Okay, Well, then how did they get a van Halen
in there to do the solo for beat It?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I mean they had to hire somebody. They're songwriters, not
solo writers. Okay, all right, come.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
On, use your head, Jesse, but no, go to this
is my this is number one. This is the one
seed for my for my karaokeing. Also, I beat the
ship out of karaoke. I'm I'm a quality. Yeah, I've
got a good got a good catalog, pretty good, pretty good,
And I do the proud ply just I do this.
I do Sweet Caroline.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Oh, I also do Sweet Caroline. That's my okay, my
number one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
All right, we'll Sweet Caroline off.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Oh, we should do it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
We're taking this to a second location. We're going to
bad Lands. We're gonna going.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And we're gonna we're gonna give like three songs between right,
some people have a chance to not be well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
If we get in there early enough, we could probably
get heavy rotation. Wait do they do that on the weekdays?
I don't even know where who's doing karaoke? To right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Your other option was bad Lands to do this episode.
I felt like they're gonna be too busy to deal
with us, and also we won't run into the same
problem we had the MRK. So I'm like, I'm just
gonna leave them a loan. That's right, we're here at
Benny Badlines has slash the Q Street Grill and Bar
not bar and Grill.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Is it grill and bar?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Grill and Bar?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
I thought it said Bar and Grill. Nope, I could
be wrong. I refuse to admit any wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
And I could also be wrong, And I just remember
saying it and going, that's wrong. That seems wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Nobody says Grill and Bar.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
No one says it, and that's why it had struck me.
But maybe I say I was also driving here, so
that might.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Be a probably yeah with my memory. Yeah, and people
are fully still.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
All right? That's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
So the real question I was supposed to ask was
not your karaoke go to. It was supposed to be
where can you find out?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
And the night Chicago dine. That's something I do is
sweet transvest.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Okay, I do crap.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
If I'm feeling like really hoity, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Could have danced all night from My Fair Lady, but
they don't do the Rex Harrison version. That doesn't exist
for karaoke, so I have to alter it a little
bit pitch wise.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Oh, I tried to do something from Ley Miz and
it was the wrong It's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Always the wrong character. Yeah, yeah, Army by Benfolds five.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Oh sure, I always go too high on Ben. I
don't know why. It's it's a challenge I was told
that I go too high. If I settle down, I
can nail it. But I always go higher.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
And here's the thing. I mess up the intro to
both of the songs, first of the because I could
have danced on Light's intro for Her is different than
Rex Harrison's intro and it's not particularly rhythmic or fun,
and I don't like doing it. So I kind of
just at this point, it's a game of me ruining it. Okay,
Army is it's kind of spoken at the beginning as

(01:19:34):
as a song. But I've also been kicked out of
bars for being too aggressive because it's a fairly aggressive
song if you think about it. And I like to
play up the audience, and so sometimes I get people's face.
You're not running up on ah. You don't on somebody
with an AH I could have, you know, it's just
you're not What are you doing as a performer?

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Very show many, especially in this song. Yes, I bring
the people in and I take them on a journey.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Yeah. What was that karaoke bar that was over on
K Street for a while? The the you know it
was so it became like a Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Themed Oh oh yeah, distillery that's like l L yeah,
so I go the wrong way, sorry L Street. Yeah,
distillery was my go to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I got banned from there three times.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
I remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, for yelling into the mic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Didn't happen. Drop the dropping the mic that also didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
He didn't happen. I handed it to him and then
he dropped it. Well, but also he didn't like me,
and I feel like that was part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
It was just an excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I'll take it and I'll let go, and it's you
dropping it. Oh what happened? He dropped it? Yeah, three times.
But I'm like, you're a punk rock bar. First of all,
someone should be allowed to yell in the mic. Also,
I'm a professional. I would never yell in a mic. No,
you've seen me do my comedy. I yell a lot.
Do I yell in the mic? No?

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
No, And and I pride myself on my own mic techniques,
like in this song, I belt the ship out of
the top of the choruses. But I know how to
work that mic.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Yeah, you gotta know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Yeah, it's part of the shop mic technique.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Proud karaoke performers don't have it, and most comics don't
have it. I feel like that's one of the things
that you're teaching class, is just how a mic works.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
You think you'd think, I mean, you'd think, also move
the mic screaming into amplification device.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
If you would be so kind.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
It's already got the the amplification. You don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Pull it away between the knees. Great spot for great
spot because you can do a little Crouch's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Also we're teaching a class here at the end of
this this episode. This episode is for sound mic technique
from Ben and Jesse here in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
This But the real question I was trying to get to, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
I interrupting, No, it's I just don't want to night.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
We're both We're the same person, Jesse, We're the same person.
Where can people find out more about Jesse Jones and
the STAB Comedy Theater and the STAB pod cast game
writing show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Sure, I guess all roads technically lead to Stabcomedytheater dot com.
Stabtv dot com takes you to the Twitch channel, though
the audience has been migrating to YouTube for some reason.
I've been trying to drive into Twitch for five years,
and now YouTube is apparently the place where people are

(01:22:25):
taking in most of their their STAB entertainment, which fine, fine,
sure go ahead. I don't really have much of a
personal presence online. It exists, but it's not it's very sporadic,
and if it's anything at all, it's promoting other things
that are available through STAB. So get the STAB show

(01:22:48):
through the podcast provider of your choice. There are I
could check, but I'm gonna say four hundred twenty ish
available and I've probably got like twenty more that need
to come out. And yeah, just recently, going back to
time on the panel and hosting, just recently crossed the threshold.

(01:23:13):
I've now hosted more episodes than I've been on the panel.
So I'm officially the host of the Stamp Shop. Boo
Proper my technique, yeah proper knows how I pulled back
and or leaned up. Yeah, and also did little to
nothing to help the lookie lows that have been on

(01:23:34):
this patio the entire time, because you know, no one's
doing podcasts for the Q Street Bar and grilling bar. Yeah,
it's for the price, guys, unless you want fourteen dollars
nonsense through through bullshit craft cocktails, which are basically the

(01:23:58):
same thing. Yeah, uh, you know, what here. Here's a
little bit of advice. You can't taste the difference between
top shelf and well, just deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
It, especially when you throw Cranberry's on top of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Just own and accept that fact.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
You are not Cranberry's always going to overpower, right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Well, it's just anything. The point of alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
To get you drive is the effect.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
It's not nobody's nobody's shooting straight vodka. It's not happening.
If you are, there's a bigger problem. I don't know.
That's the the note that we want to go out on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I mean you know also that my own thing.
So ad STAB show ad STAB comedy theater with an
er correct, yes, yes, not not too British over there,
well very America.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Are is technically more in reference to the building than
the actual or wait, is the er the building and
the ri is the art. I can't remember. I can't
remember either way. It's it's not the you know, it's
not so yeah on most platforms Stab comedy, so find

(01:25:07):
it there. Otherwise there's other places that is STAB.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
For gold still a thing. It is okay great the
number four Gold dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Though it doesn't have like it's proper certificate, so anytime
anybody goes there, this is not a safe website.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
And that's true, so it's probably it's not safe for work,
that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Yeah, it's probably not helpful, so I should fix that
at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
And then over here at.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
What's this podcast called branded?

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
This is why I Drink does not have a website yet,
but I do. It is available on borrowing mepod dot
com and you can follow the socials at borrowing me pod.
That's on Instagram and Facebook and nowhere else. YouTube. There's
a new one. Check it out. Hey nobody, Jesse Jones,
you did it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Oh you did it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
We both did it. I don't have an outro for this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Oh well, let this let's fact play out. Whatever this is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
I hope you enjoyed this like we enjoyed our Cranberry Vodka,
Cranberry and Long Beach here at Benny's slash Q Street
Grill and Bar. If you enjoyed this, tell people do
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