This Is Why I Drink...Cider w/ Marketer Karen Lewis, at Nitty's Cider

In this episode of This Is Why I Drink... with Ben Rice, I sit down with my good friend and marketer extraordinaire Karen Lewis, an absolute dynamo who immediately seizes the means of production over a pint of Beautiful Blues at Nitty's Cider in Sacramento.
WARNING: We are also there on cornhole night, so expect a lot of bang for your buck with this very much free episode.
ALSO: There will be many references to the video of this episode, but one of the files got corrupted so...no. But we have a YouTube for this, I swear!
Karens are gonna Karen, so Madame Lewis drives hard through conversations about the history of electronics, weird thumbs, pooping so hard you pass out, being raised by lesbians, stealing friends, and all the many, many reasons she drinks...cider and other gluten-free beverages due to Celiac's disease. Somehow, she undersells herself throughout the episode.
Be sure to learn more about Karen at her website think4it.com or across social media @think4it
Nitty's Cider (now with beer!) can be found at nittyscider.com or @nittyscider. Thanks to Nick and his crew for having us!
You can find out more about host Ben Rice, Barley & Me, This Is Why I Drink..., and his comedy (shows) @barleyandmepod or at www.barleyandmepod.com
Intro Music: "Functional Alcoholism" by Be Brave Bold Robot
Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez
Logo by Jaclyn Weiand

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something. They call it functional alcoholism.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
But if you know anything about Ben, he's got vision
with precision microphones.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
And the tinkle love derision.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
You're about to hear what beer can be. It's time
for Barley and me. Oh, I forgot something, No I did.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
So the thing I'm gonna change for this one is
that you're gonna introduce the show.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
You're gonna say cool, I'm going to kick.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm Karen, like whatever you what do you want to
not yourself as it's like a title. I'm blove, I'm
blave about Karen, And this is why I drink the
drink that we're drinking with Ben Rice.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Hi, I'm Karen Lewis. I'm a mom of three, and
I have blue eyes and Jesus Christ, I don't know.
I rehearsed this like twenty times hoping you would put
me in a situation. But now, yeah, yeah, Karen, I
do things. I have ADHD and I drink a lot,
and we are drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
The beautiful blues blueberry and cherry. Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
And the reasons why I drink are many current administration,
my uncle who's a fucking weirdo, and God only knows
what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
These days other than being at those group quote.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So that's one reason why I drink. I mean, aside
from like, you know, the standard issue stuff. But yeah,
I'm a mom. I was weed whacking the front yard
and staring at the weird racist, slightly stupid neighbor.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Okay, not slightly stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
But you know, I do a lot of stuff, nicely, drink,
really good at drinking, though not only because of alcoholisms.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, runs in the fanily runs the family.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, But aside from that, it's also like a coping mechanism,
a social mechanism, and it's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Why not. I mean, it's one of the few drugs
that are.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Allowable, and you know how many people accomplished amazing stuff
under the influence of drugs. You know what I was
doing today, I was reading a book on electronics. But
what kind of electronics are Well, it's like for people
studying electronics apparently is an offshoot of electricity. Electrical engineering,

(02:11):
so people were in electrical engineering and there was this
offshoot for electronics for computers and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And so I was at the threst store the other
day and I was like.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Oh, principles of electronics, and I'm like, this is fascinating.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That makes more sense.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
So now why I drink is because all of a sudden,
I opened up this book and it's like, okay, let's
explain to you how electronics came about.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
And I'm like, take a sip. Okay, they go through
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
They went through this glossary, and this is how I
found out Miss Careless is a what's a prostitute?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
And apparently when.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
You get here, no, I will take you along the
story with me. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Because I was drinking from start to finish, I apparently
I am going to get my own PhD and electronics
like very soon. So I pick up the book and
we're reading, and I'm like, okay. Benjamin Franklin Benjamin Franklin's
discovery of electricity or not electricity, but basically he conceptualized
electricity as a flow of.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
A fluid slow. He did that before.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
The funding of the United States. I'm like, seventeen seventy
six is in my head. That's when we signed the
declaration where we became into penny Waity eighty. Yeah, seventeen
seventy six. Well, freaking Benjamin Franklin figured out, like, oh,
electricity is kind of like oh, like a wave, right,
it can go in one way or another.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
And that was like seventeen to fifty six.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's older than the United States. So then I was
like cool and it was all electricity revolutionized many things
like street lamps. And I'm like, bro, who was like, yo,
we need street lamps. I can't understand why he light
my house, but what's the justification for street lamps? So
we went down the path. We me myself and I, okay,

(03:49):
went down the path. By the way, this may have
been the second white claw today because I can't drink beer,
sat face.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I used to be a beer snob.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
But then celiac ruined, like, you know, half my life
as middle aged does.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
And so I'm reading about it and.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
I'm like, there were these people that used to like
before the street lights were lit by like the people
in like old and England. I'm strolls dickens time you
have the people like running down the street and lighting
the street lamps.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Before that you would have these people.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
And I was like, I'm going to remember this term
and I keep whacking your phone, So okay, I gesticulate
a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
That was one of the things we talked about.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Ye, So.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I just think you may not like Trump gesticulate, which
is more like he really wants to scratch his ass
kind of thing. Doesn't know what to do with the
sands me.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm like, emphasis, yes, and I've got.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
A lot of things to emphasize right now.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
So going back to this, they were like people that
were paid to carry the torch. You're like, dude, I
want to walk home, but I'm afraid of tripping over
that like tree roots, the streets aren't paid, so you'd
pay somebody to carry the freaking torch for you.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, and a lot of those people, by the way,
Cornhole's happening, So it's not my whole it's hopefully, hopefully.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
We can make it quick. You have to be out
of here anyway.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, so let me continue with my really long story
of what I've learned today in my pH d studies
and electronics. So the page boys often would be like,
they're not page boys. I'm gonna come up with the name.
I think I screened on it, but I'm recording. So anyway,
torch bearers.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Torch bearers.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was like a like a Twinkie name form or
something like that, something that you're like, oh, that's so great.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I kind of want to bring it back and monitoring.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Bring one of those fire boys around.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
So exactly, that was it.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Some people would be like, hey, here's some money, can
you maybe go fetch one of those ladies and then
walk us both home, And so a lot of these
torch bearing dudes would like have hookups to the local
prostitution rings.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
They would actually be the pimps.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, but they're like, oh, what do
you want just to walk home by ken light?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh, you want more?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
You want a warm home to go home to.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And that also gives more to the door. Come on, baby,
light by fire.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Exactly exactly, by the way, So anyway, miss Careless apparently
was a prostitute and she built her entire off of
these little fire torch bearing boys, and then she ended
up not being able to be like a prostitute anymore.
I mean maybe age agism still exists every decade, every century.
And so she became a brothel owner, and apparently she

(06:24):
was pretty notorious for it. And now I'm like, when
I care Less, is it like a nod to Miss Careless,
who like was a part of the history of electronics development,
because the streetlights.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I think she has the name from the phrase, but
that's probably you know, some level of anonymity. Yeah, you're
in the industry.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
So now circling back because adhd, which means I'm gonna
have like twenty million conversations that I have to finish.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
By the way, I'm your houst bend Rice.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh sorry, I am negligent in my responcise.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I like you don't know, ben Rice, Then I don't
know what Why are you listening to it?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah? Right, Karen, keep going.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
I'm so far past the introduction it's not even funny,
Like I'm ready to start wrapping up. So all that
being said, has anybody like, so what am I? How
old am I I am? In my forties, I'm forty four.
I'm a palindrome, I'm a Devil's Yeah, so I'm forty four.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Not that old.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
However, has anybody ever called you like a dynamo?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Have you ever heard like, oh my god, you're such
a dynamo.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
No, but I think it to myself all the time.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Okay, so when I say what is a dynamo? What
is a dynamo?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Just an unstoppable forces popping off real quick.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Apparently Dynamo was the name of the first generator.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, like imagine how dynamic that was, Like, oh shit,
this scene gives us light, like that's a dynamo. And
like from there on, like in vernacular culture, how many
words are we using today that you don't know the
like etymology in the origin of because you.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Think we come from dynamic. It's like, no, dynamo came
from dynamic, but dynamo and.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Like dynamo at that point in time, nobody was like
copywriting or like you know, getting you know, patents for it.
So like you know, from we don't have electricity, now
we have electricity.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's a dynamo. You are such a dynamo.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Anyway, I'm on page three PhD my electronics.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It was many a pathway.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yes, of course, I wouldn't expect anything else.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
This is you know, what's always fun is you asked
if you could be on this like what two days ago,
three days ago? Yes, And I was like yes, because
I have no idea what you're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
And this was not on the list of anything you expected.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, no, no, I knew.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was like this intro is I'm gonna try a
new intro with Karen. You'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I'm like, she's gonna be off and running, off
and running some.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Days like that's the thing, Like some days I'm hyper
fixated and hyper focused on certain things, and other days
I just like, you know, I'm learning about electricity and
electronics and we whacking the yard.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
My interview tactic is wide open questions, leave you all
the room you want to explore your imagination. I loved
that I was going to get you off balance for
like two seconds, like, no, stay the course.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I was like, wait, shit, introduction.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I introduced myself and now you know, like thirty minutes
about me.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh yeah, Ben Rice.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Oh yeah, also Ben? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Which did I tell you that I was accused of
stealing friends?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Um no, So my partner.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I know him, you know him, Yeah, But we.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Know each other not just because you know him, but
because I've been in like the media industry and so like,
and I also kind of try to be everywhere and
know everybody and do all the things no matter what,
and so we like we've become friends not just because
you know my partner, but so charity he was like
or yesterday I think it was he was telling my

(09:48):
son like, oh, you better watch out because his boss.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I'm working with his boss on marketing.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Which is what I do. Also, do we need other
eight seconds to like balance this out? Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Do we need eight seconds about?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Told him like, shit, I can get at the end
the last part of that.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Fabulous.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
So he was talking to our kid that was like,
you know, by the way, your boss really likes mom
because Mom's so like helpful and knows a lot, and
I've been popping in and helping out with marketing.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
He's like, be careful, Mom steals friends.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Ben used to be my friend, but now Ben and Carroen,
Ben and Mom are like way more friends than me
and Ben. And then of course, like we show up,
you know, dance with me my partner, my husband.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I say partner.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Because fuck oh that's hiss normative bullshit. But so yeah,
he shows up and like I leave you guys alone
for two seconds and you start talking the shop and
I'm like, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It's not always the Karen Show.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, for thirty two seconds, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
By the way, do we say we are a mid
Ea cider? I don't know if you did stay here.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
We didn't. I had to remember what drink I was drinking, which.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Is bluetacris or something with blueberry and cherry blueberry and chery.
Their menu changes up so often, which is what I like. So, yeah,
we're at Nitty Cider. And then asked me to pick my.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Favorite place to go.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
And I like Nitty because there's so many spaces at
Nitty Like and.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I didn't even know those room existed.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean I knew it existed in my head, but
I didn't know you could be in here.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh right.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
So, in typical Karen fashion, the person that used to
own this portion of the building, his name is Nick o'donahue,
and he runs his own detaaling business, and so I
would bring my cars in to get detailed by Nick,
and then next door Nitty Cider.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Like.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I didn't know Nick of Nitty's Cider. But one day
I was sitting down with some friends and this guy
we were chatting and he had a taller and I
was hanging out and I was like typical Karen, and
he's like, yeah, my brother owns this place, and I
was like what, And so I took a selfie with
Nick from Nitty's Cider, and I thought he was talking
about Nick o'dnna Hugh detailing guy, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, I know Nick, and he's like cool. I was like,
I'm gonna send in the picture.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
So I said, Nick o'donna hue the detailing guy a
selfie of me and Nick from me the Sider's brother.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And he's like, I don't know that guy. I'm like,
this isn't your brother.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
So then Nick moved out and he's still out doing
detailing and all that stuff. But Nitty Tae took over
the other section and whacking the phone.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I also hit the phone.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I've got an earthquake hat over here.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
This is the first time we're doing it this.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Way, so you need align this ship for right hand,
left hand.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know, I was thinking about it. I actually need
this yours. They should be on the same side. That's
what I realized. And I found it out outside and
then I forgot when I got inside.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's the problem. I hope everyone's joining this bag.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
This is a wonderful bag and fils all my podcast
stuff Swiss. It's all in there. This has been here
since day one. This is an eight year old bag.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Look at it you could.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Swiss took what jans Port made iconic and then was like, no,
there there's a new kneed. Swiss backpacks way better than
dance sports, like the basic bitch, the analog version of backpacks.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, you know I used to make Janceport backpacks in
the back room of my friend's house.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
What do you mean you used to make them? Did
you modify that?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I know his mom worked for Jamsport and I would
help sew together the pockets.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
What child?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah. Also, fun fact, I was actually making jams Sport.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
That was like the time that I went to Mexico before,
like you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Dan was down at San Diego say so, and I
was at uc Ravine, so we were close enough and
he would be like, you want to go to Mexico. Yeah,
let's go to Mexico. I would go down in and
we'd be like, Hey, who wants Audi DAEs? Yeah, Like
I love Adidas. I can't afford Adidas, but I got
me some Audi Dos.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That is awesome. Can you have your own like stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Or do you I have not done it. I think
I can do it in a pinch. I think if
I don't own this stuff, and I haven't done it
in probably twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And this is why he dresses like he does.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'm just have you met a fabric shaver in your life?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't even know what that means. Why would you
shave fabric because.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
It's pilled because you've overwashed it, but you want to
continue wearing it.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I don't even know what that means. You're using all
kinds of terminal.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I introduced my son to a fabric shaver, and I
was like, all that pilling, Like like, I got a
little pilling going on right now, and maybe like tonight,
I'm going to sit down and be like I need
to get rid of the pills on my sweatshirt because like, oh,
who wears their clothes till it starts pilling?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Me? Most of us do.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
But the Okay, now I know what it is. And
now I understand the concept now And.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
You're like, oh, I see your clothes are pilled. They
don't come pilled from the store.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
No, it's time.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
It's not like I wash it.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
It's not like pre ripped jeans, pre ripped eels, you
could buy them. No, but pills. That's my wife's I know.
People get so confused. I swear all the time. I'm
like the lesbians unicorn. Yeah, I was hanging it out
with one of my legs being friends last night.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I mean, I think she's.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Way like on the weird like sexuality, Like she came
out of a throttle into a couple, and like.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think she's just open to everything.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
And like the number of people that I'm like, oh, yeah,
here's my wife and they like legitimate are the like
are like, oh, that's amazing. And then two minutes later
and here's my husband and they're like, whoa, are you
into some kinky shit? And I'm like, no, I just
like to challenge assumption to you, little asshold. Yeah, although
on kinky shit, okay, it's a Karen.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
On kinky shit.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
My friend she was like, Karen, do you have a
Blu ray player I could borrow my friends are in town.
And I was like, yeah, I have a Blu ray player,
but let me make sure it works, right, So I like,
put a DVD in there, works, Blu ray doesn't work.
I go through like I do tech services on the side,
Like I'm like the squad mom of one and so
like I even like hardwired the DVD player into my

(16:16):
Internet to make sure that we could update all of
the software updates, all that stuff, Like, right, maybe it's
a software update that's preventing it from playing Blu rays.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And I'm like, god, damn it.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Okay, fine, I can't get it to play the Blue rays,
but it plays DVDs, And so I send her a
message player. Well it's not like I mean, it's okay,
it's a DVD player, but like Blu rays, like from
that weird short period that like, also you can refer.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
To DVD Blu rays as DVDs because who fucking uses
them anymore?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Oh wait, but no, So I send her off with
DVD player. Meet her friends that are in town. Two gentlemen.
My friend is also name similar to my name. Also
just maybe a Karen. But I know, so sorry Karen
if I'm outing you right now. Also, this has not
been confirmed. So she comes over and I'm like, sorry,

(17:07):
only DVDs play Blu rays, don't.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
And she's like that's fine. I'm all, but if you
want my Netflix log in and you want to watch movies,
you can borrow my Netflix log in and watch movies.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, And I go inside and the next day I
wake up and I tell my husband.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
She's not borrowing DVD player for movies that you could
find on Netflix. I'm like, if I so prude that,
like I didn't pick up that her friends had like
brought down porn and like they all wanted to watch
it and get it on question Mark.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Also knock more.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Fucks for hey, just a little uh tug the tree.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Friends? You don't know down with that.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
If she would have been like, girl, we want to
watch the porn, I would have went to the thift
store and got a working.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Blu ray player. But do I have any Blu ray porn?

Speaker 6 (17:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
The porn that I own is eighty years old. It's
it's very under the house, like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's mislabeled for some reason.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Right, America's funniest home video is nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, no, maybe maybe it's the one I submitted.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I mean, think about it, wink.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Think about all the sex tapes like Pamela Anderson and
Kim Kardashian and now it's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Sex tapes don't exist. That's my only fans.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah a secret right, No, I'm gonna get naked in
the noole of sunny.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know, like you.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So I found out people will pay for feet, so
why would I.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm gonna do this.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
We're gonna do a professional That was part of my introduction.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
What am I about to learn?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I'm so glad you're recording this because hopefully you're facial
Holy wait.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Good you had to put a freeze frame in your face.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, I was gonna say in my introduction that I'm
Karen and I'm perfect and everywhere you know, I have
like blue eyes and long gorge his legs. Nobody gets
to see them. Nobody needs to see them.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
But at the same time, I still deformed. I have bractal.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Dactyls, which Megan Fox without. Yeah, so like I feel
a lot better about it, but until you meet somebody that's.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like into it. Oh.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I was working like a home trade show fair or
something like that, and some guy came by.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
He's like, oh, your thumbs and I was like, I
immediately like went an tie them.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's like, yeah, well, and it means you'll break it
when you punch. You gotta No, I was not punching.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I was hiding my thumbs from this guy and he's like,
do your toes look the same.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
And I'm.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I'm not answering this question, but like party me some days.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
But like I got my twreathing ticket and I'm like,
where do I give three hundred dollars? Maybe somebody's into.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
My thumb toe they are.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I'm like, so is it a deficiency or is it
like a secret superpower?

Speaker 7 (20:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
So, I mean it's like you're like rainy Day savings.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Back open day at the economy.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's like ship three hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
The Thomson Administration is never going to put a tariff
on toe pictures, right, So like that's.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
My like sleeper, like made in America, baby.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
In America, by my deformed alcoholic lose your dad.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
So thumbs up. Might as well go ahead, and like,
you know.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Do whatever I toes up? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
We're not looking at my toes.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I'm not looking at however, I don't even know how
to even come from.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
These are the shoes, Okay, these are the shoes.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Or fox and they're they're one hundred and twenty five dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Oh my god, I have no idea, no.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
No idea, but I wore them over to my client's house.
She's eighty five, and her daughter comes in and she goes.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh my god, just narrowing this mar this market.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Use hideous shoes? Are those?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
And I was like, oh, those are mine. I love
my hideous shoes, thank you. So they're my hideous shoes.
And I paid way too much money for them because
they're crocs, although zaccavel out let's So anyways, are we
at time now?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Do you want to just have me come back? What
time is the responsibilities? Don't you?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
I mean, hold on, my I gotta you have an
actual digital six zero nine That would be six' nine
if you.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Take up the zero hell, yeah sixty nine sixty, nine
six zero nine sixty.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Nine.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah that joke LIKE i have to be out of
here by six. Thirties we have twenty minutes left if
you want.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
TO i don't know you want to talk?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
NOW i was thinking about. It so the THING i
think is important is WHEN i was talking about being
a jam.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Sport uh uh so we're uh going going back to
it BECAUSE i feel like there's more to.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
It.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Right SO i was living next door to this guy
because you, know a three story.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
House this sounds like the beginning of a very interesting.
Story it could be totally on a crime. Podcast it,
is it's.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Going to be all, right NO.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
U so it's a three story house and they have
like all the latest. Tech they did their research on.
Electronics think if they're, like what's the new? Tech we
always got to have, it big screen TV's laser disc,
player come on karaoke machine at HOME bmw in the.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Driveway and they had you, know they had a.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
WATERBED i don't think they did actually that's the waterbed
kind of LIKE i.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Think it's just because they're, like this isn't comfortable that
my friend had a. Waterbed i'm, like that's. Dope actually this.
Sucks i'm not putting money into. IT i think that's what.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
HAPPENED i think they're like they do their due diligence,
right and they learned from their.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Friends like that doesn't that's not as great as it.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Seems speaking of kinky, shit that's just for kinky.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Shit it's only, yeah it's only for it's got to
be blood. Red h you know, SHEETS i.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
WHEN i know what percentage of the population still sleeps
on a?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Waterbed, yes mothers like are you into water? Play and
it's like, Gross get out of, here get out of?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Here, yes do you want to jump on my? Waterbed
we could pretend To we're three little.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Monkeys, also now back to sweatshop, experience that people were
like super. One SO i was, Like, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
What job does this GUY'S i know what his mom.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Does she works for Jan, sport you, know and what
do you what does his dad do that they have
all this? Stuff and he was the manager of the
meat section at Safe. Way i'm, like, oh, dope that's
WHAT i should be WHEN i grow.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Up, no you had.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Miss aligne like professional like career goal like limits From, like.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
So SO i was very good friends with this, family, right,
yeah really good friends and there and so it's my,
friend he's my age and it's his parents. House obviously we're.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Kids you guys went to school.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Together, YEAH i went to school.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
TOGETHER i went TO i went to his uh weekend
school with him as well on occasion IF i had the.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Time because it was a foreign, language it was like
it was like a.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Bild new school and like get schools not for it's
it's it's.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Uh they Were, chinese so it's like.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
A school For chinese, Speaking like, yeah well it.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Would be like to maintain their.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Culture oh oh got.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
It after second language learns kinds of the states they.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Are they were already, exersized but they're, like, hey keep your.
Culture this is the thing you go to so kids
can remember.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Where they came.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
From that got really, popular especially with.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Adoptions they were but, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
But but it. Did people were so so.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
There So i'd go to that with them in once a,
while you, know And i'm, LIKE i don't speak the,
language but are.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Cool you. Know it is like a nice little cultural.
EXPERIENCE i geld LIKE i CAN i have, eyes you,
KNOW i can pick up a little bit here and.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
There but their grandparents live down the, street AND i
would go to their grandparents house sometimes but.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Very, rarely very rarely go to their grandparents'. House AND
i go to their grandparents' house every.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Time it told LIKE i was reading a new aunt
or five, right like here's my, aunt here's.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
My, aunt this is my aunt the crtual aunties or
are they like actually blood?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Related so because like SO i Have Aunt jakari in our.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Family And nick was like one DAY i was, like,
Oh Aunt, jakara like my college remates coming to visit this.
Weekend jakara And nick was, like what, Aunt jakara is
not my. Aunt AND i was like, like, oh Bab.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah so WHEN i moved, away, Yeah seattle was in
the midst of its longest time without a violent death in.
History and the night BEFORE i, moved The Bladdus street
stabbed a guy who tried to rob.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
HIM i, mean.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
But SO i don't it did break the, RULE i
guess for some, reason even though it's, like come, on
it's self. Defense but it was the baseball card shop
on the corner owner who lived in the back. ROOM
i was always. THERE i know that, guy and we
had to kill a man the night BEFORE i.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
MOVED i feel like these are such authentic stories from
growing up in the like the eighties and the, nineties
and like what do kids like the twenty ten's they
Have they have like stories of Like.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Andrew, tate like losing money To Andrew.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Tate it's not the.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Same.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, so like a few months AFTER i, MOVE i
get a call from one of my.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Friends you, KNOW i called him for you, know you
try to keep your friendships alive whole you live have
a country away, now you, know If i've moved, Away
and he's, like, hey did you hear about this? Thing
i'm like, no it's, like, oh so his grandparents got
busted for illegal, gambling illegal, drugs and illegal.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Prostitution you know what, though those are all things we all, Like,
so can we like get white collar criminals that are
doing like stock like you know what is it called
when they like sell stock off insider? Trading like can
we have Like Bartha stewart lived and died on that?
Hill can we not have like more of those criminals beside?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Gambling we're all gambling with our. Paychecks, yeah, prostitution we all.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Want to get laid that where all the arts came.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
In those are the honest professions.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
For, Fox but that's where all the arms came.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
In, Karen, yeah we don't have those kind.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Of there were a lot of doors next to each
other in that, house, okay like just a.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Wall with, door, door door. DOOR i was like nine ten.
ELEVEN i didn't.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Know we didn't want to talk about WHEN i was
nine ton.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Eleven but ONCE i actually went to a massage parlor
In Santa. Cruz huh, yeah it was like that oh that,
situation AND i was, like you can massage my hips
all you, want every angle of my. Hips, yeah like
from the, back from the, side from the, inside and
THEN i was like that's too inside, yeah AND i was, like,
no the inside but still outside, place like, yeah, yeah

(27:17):
like they're they're like swimsuit, boundaries bikini, boundaries like stream
bikini boundaries, Exist, Okay like this was not, consentual AND
i was like AND i was having hip, problems so
that's what. Shit it was like like literally like where
the massage had started was LIKE i was like hell.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
YEAH i was, like, oh thank, god this is WHAT i.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Needed and then like when it, ENDED i was LIKE
i don't think.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
THAT i THINK i needed to like confirm consent and
like that was.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Weird AND i got in the car AND i was
with my oldest who's now twenty, four and.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
They were out here with their two.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Essential best friend roommates from college and they had come
out To.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
CALIFORNIA i was, like let's do all this kind of.
Fun let's go To San. Cisco it's Gonna Santa. Cruz
let's go to the. Boardwalk at this, point my hip
was killing.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Me i'm, like y'all go to the, boardwalk And i'm
just gonna go to this walk in massage parlor and
so they go to the. Boardwalk i'm, like, cool pick me.
Up they pick me up And i'm ALL i get
in the. Car i'm, LIKE i think that was just.
Molestedy what The like the roommates were, Like, morgan who
is this?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Person and how do you respond to? That AND i
was like AND i.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Think, That Like i'm pretty assertive And i've got the
boundaries And i'm very like you, Know but at the same,
time it was like that great area THAT i was, like.
WHOA i, mean it felt good in the, guys not
in the not in the like it.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Ship not in THE i wanted to.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
FEEL i felt LIKE i was gonna say, something AND
i feel like my time was so wrong WHEN i was,
like you're getting too close to the no no. ZONE
i appreciate the doing.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Like, okay, right like, yes that's safe. Way that is
exactly where my tendon runs along absolutely like That vegas you,
know like you're not supposed to shit too hard because
you can pass, Out Like elvis was undone by The vegas.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Nerve what oh my, god did you not, like, yeah
that's what you're talking.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
About there's The vegas nerve, Response like if you strain too,
Hard like there's this thing that runs like the inside
of your bigh all the way up to like your
central nervous, system and you can poop so hard that
it puts pressure on this vegas nerve and it makes
you pass.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Out, okay do you think? Really, okay you got to
look it up because you're a man and you.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Poop, yeah the should know this happens to. Me AND
i don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
What don't want to pass out on the fucking toilet
dropping a.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Dude you don't know. About you, know in my, life
MAYBE i do want to pass. Out, drop but usually.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
You have other indicators of, that, okay.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like like passing out to the other.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
THING i, mean like you, know wearing certain necklaces in.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Public, okay, ALRIGHT i listen to this. Podcast by the,
Way i'm on a. PODCAST i love listening to a.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Podcast in a, Podcast please link to this to me strictly.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Anonymous have you ever listened to strictly?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Anonymous, NO i listened to, beautiful beautiful. Anonymous strictly.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Anonymous if you want to know about every kink that's out.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
There.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Circling back so, anyway.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
If people have that kink shitting on the toilet and
activating their vegus. Nerves it's not one that's on the
strictly on this. Podcast there are other kings out there
and there are signs of. It so, basically no upside
to it other than knowing about it and avoiding. It
the only downside is your, elvis and it's not really
a fun.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Kink so, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So i've like the name obviously comes from that exact, incident, right, yeah,
Right so there's a thing.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
That you know, WHAT i don't care.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
What there's a thing happening behind.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Us, no, no, YES i don't know if you noticed. This
there's a thing happening behind us that we didn't bring up.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
EARLIER i hope you include some video in this because
LIKE i am just eyes on.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
You i'm, Like i'm a good, Presenter i'm, Engaged we're
having a.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Conversation you're, like Is karen gonna get hit in the
head by this being bag that's?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Flying because the professional.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
These are professionals. Championship that's WHY i. Heard. Yeah but
my question is do you want another sight OR i
see this is the.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Problem i've been talking so. MUCH i haven't tried. YET
i know, absolutely BUT i don't want, To LIKE i,
CAN i.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Can ask My, yeah we can ask that. Underling you
have partner in to just get a random, one to
get a random one that we've probably never. Had he
left because there's a oh yes he.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Left he's playing bingo with my.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Wife my husband's playing music music bingo with my.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
WIFE i can get, up but if you want, to
we don't have.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
To words, Matter it's.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
True words do? Matter you know?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
What, here hold, ON i got you brought two, phones
So i'm gonna stop my.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Recording MAYBE i can keep my recording.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Going, there we, go keep it, going put it back on.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
You and then DO i just Text? Nick?

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah SHOULD? I if you have his? NUMBER i? Do that's.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
WEIRD i also still have the number of the guy.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
That used to the Other. Nick, yeah they'll send it
to the wrong. One, also don't send to the Wrong.
Nick there's so Many nicks in your.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
LIFE i have. Nity oh MAYBE i.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Don't, yeah you.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Suld probably just text your you, know your your, partner my. Partner,
yeah he's probably gonna be more. Responsive he doesn't own a.
Business in the midst of this absolute chaos going, On
like can he's trying to run music bingo and cornhole
and This why can't they just call it bean bag?

(32:43):
Toss didn't you used to be called bean bag? Toss
what's wrong with big big?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Toss you know?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
What it's The midwestern coming out and The midwestern coming out.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Is, okay like Like midwestern, Friendliness like That's. Sacramento you've
been in The, midwest? Right, no where were you?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Born massive?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Six do you like Crab An Old day?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
SEASONING i moved WHEN i was three months.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Old oh that was Like Dan Bourdon Santa, Barbara, like,
yeah that. Tracks, YEAH i was born and brought. Here
but you, know do you know WHAT i originally went
to school. For, no you're gonna be so.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
SURPRISED i originally went to school for computer.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
ENGINEERING i got INTO uc revind as a computer engineer
BECAUSE i was, Like i'm a girl AND i can
do anything.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
That boys can.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Do BECAUSE i was like raising the seventies and eighties
by a lesbian, mom And i'm, like, fuck, y'all women
can do everything men can. Do and it was, like,
well math is a boy's, thing AND i was, like, oh,
oh hold the mic because let me do my. Maths
one SUMMER i completed the math book that they gave
us in like second or third, grade AND i went

(33:50):
into like the next grade and handed my teacher the
rest of the books and, said can you please review
the rest of the book and make, SURE i, mean
it's totally tracking with my reading the electronics book to. Do.
Yeah SO i went to school to be a computer,
engineer because computer technology it all.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
THAT i took a programming class in high school AND
i was, like, Yes i'm gonna do. This it's, hot it's,
sexy computers are new and.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Industry oh, WELL i want to make so much.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Money, well it was funny.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Because my first computer programming, class or my computer programming
class in high, school was all about running IN c
plus plus running a program to run the statistics of
The Sacramento kings and show how much of an anomaly
in the late nineties WITH vibi it.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Was and it was, like that's like what.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
My first introduction to programming was like looking at the
statistical analysis of The Sacramento.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Kings and by the, WAY i don't do ball.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Sports and people, say don't say, that And i'm, like,
YEAH i was gonna, say don't so.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
BAD i, KNOW i LIKE i like individual sports like.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Swimming yeah you can just say.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
That, yeah but like things that are thrown at, ME i,
DUCK i. SCREAM i, know we don't do. That and
so usually when we go out to like sports, games
so like the fact that that this being that competition
is happening behind.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Us Usually dan is like my.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Referee and he runs Like he's, like, okay we're sitting
in the foul.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Zone so IF i yell, duck you have to.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Duck because IF i go to like sports games where
balls are, thrown.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
You're gonna not be paying. Attention oh my.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
God, no it's a social, event, yeah and.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
You're gonna BE i can like, right, like it's also
a skill set tracking a.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
BALL i can't do it like.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
ROWING i can say loft rowing and there's no chance
that the robots.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Whack but Where.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
I'm your a golf course stands like if you hear
the word for you. Duck But i'm, like well why
Because i'm so oblivious to all. This so, ANYWAY i
don't even know how that tangent.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Starts this is very.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Fun there's this barrier if you are launching it into
sometimes because this ceiling is not as high as it,
appears and it's happened like three times, now and it's
definitely affecting the teams in this because they have to throw,
low which means you have to get a certain speed
up but also not too much.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Feed well it's a, parabola yeah motion this is, Yeah
so that's how this topic got. Start so, yes because,
WELL i MEAN i should have gone to school to
be a, mathematician LIKE i was being like recruited by the.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Mathematics i'm very good at, math But i'm very bad at,
pool and that's.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Frustrated i'm, like, look pool is.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Geometry you can be good at, algebraic But.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm also good at.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Geometry, thought the reality is that my body doesn't do
WHAT i wanted to, do SO i can be, like,
yes do. This i'm not gonna make my. Body it's
not gonna do the thing THAT i asked it to.
Do it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Off my diabety sensor ripped off on the way over,
here AND i was, like, WELL i Guess i'm not diabag.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Tonight, like but sugar is that it's Not it's not.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Important we're gonna go. Drink ciders historically known to not have.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Sugar, well that's WHY i like ciders LIKE i like
uh selters over. Ciders and that's WHY i Like nitty
because like their ciders are actually like sugar. Free it's
like probably are. Artificial but If i'm gonna kill, Myself
i'm gonna kill myself with like things THAT i enjoy.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Doing so like, there their stuff doesn't raise my lunchure like.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Sugar oh, yeah that's all loaded to have ice cream
That i'm gonna have like that much.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Sugar, yeah my husband has not at all responded to.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
That, fine you know what we don't. Have you don't
have the. Time, yeah it's, fine but it's more it's
more just a what's the thing that we would never
drink that's?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Here you, Know WELL i can't drink the, beer but
there's some spicy, stuff SO i, joke, well.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
No, no, okay, sorry a thing that you have never
drunk here that you want to drink but you've been
too scared to.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Order that's kind of WHAT i want to.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
KNOW i am never too scared of.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Anything that's.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
True sport doesn't even know to, you and HONESTLY i
don't always, hear, like give me the thing THAT i
haven't Had, no there's no at no, point Like i'm
scared about This nity cider is gonna BE i Know
i'm gonna love.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
IT i Have celiic, disease, right so like IF i have,
gluten there since severe. Consequences in one of them is
like sleeping for like twenty four hours After i've been
explosed to, gluten And i'll be like some Days i'm,
LIKE i want that corona, now AND i will sleep
the thirteen hours, afterwards because LIKE i really wanted that,
beer BUT i don't do. Spice so one time we

(38:11):
were here actually and there was a food truck out.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Front i'm not trying to put you to a spot
where you don't want to be in.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
It, yeah. EXACTLY i SEE lyc.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Disease SO i might eat or drink something that sucks
up my stomach and Then i'm like A portland middle
aged woman stereotype And i'm running into the.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Bathroom but that doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Stereotype but, uh if you look up Like portland's, subreddit
the number of memes of, Like i'm a middle aged
white woman with stomach.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
PROBLEMS i, mean my name Is.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
KAREN i have to lean into the tropes and the
means and the.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Stereotype by the, way being A karen in your case
is just well it's just been happening on this.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Podcast that's what being A karen is in your. WORLD
i like to.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Always defy the.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Odds LIKE i was a young, MAM i go against. Type,
Yeah i'm, like, oh. STEREOTYPE i remember sitting on a
panel in sociology in one of my sociology of sexuality
you see your revine WHEN i was a freshman and
they were doing a panel on gay folk And i'm, like, cool,
great AND i raised my hand and SAID i will
be on the panel as a as a straight a

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straight kid.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Of a lesbian, parent like a lesbian. Mom and they're like.
What AND i sat up on this panel AND i
was like everyone was, like, well why aren't you?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Gay And i'm, like, UH i liked dick and like,
okay BECAUSE i had a lesbian, mom what? What And they're,
like but how did she not indoctrinate? You AND i was, like,
oh the only indoctrination that happened was that like all
of the, family.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Because that's in using your. Quotes you can see it on.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Video but like all the family would have had were
like people that were like very self. Confident they knew
who they were and what they liked and they lived.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
That and it was, like, okay, no what.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
You like and lived That like that's kind of, gay
that's like a self confident. Thing, Yeah and so LIKE
i remember her taking me to Like Pride parade WHEN
i was probably like nine In San. Francisco but we
were like approaching where we were like gonna.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Hang out in park and all that, stuff and we
passed by.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
This this this signed up her mail who was wearing
like a tank, top a, wig daisy duke cut off
like shorts and high. Heels and my mom was, like,
oh what do you think about them over?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
There AND i was, like daisy bukes and high. Heels,
seriously like how far is he walking in that? Outfit?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Please and my mom was like expecting like questions and
all that kind of. Stuff AND i was, like, oh
that's a fashion, choice like.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
You're gonna be a.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Queen be a, queen but like walking down the street
like miles away from The.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Pride, parade like probably you better get on a bus
and put those feet.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Up and that was a, PLANE i, hope so or
maybe that was just his, neighborhood and he was, like
And i'm, Mused i'm going right home after, this, right
like maybe that's his everyday, fit and like he just
was in his home. Environment and my mom was, like,
hey this person is, different And i'm like, different how
making bad fashion?

Speaker 3 (41:10):
CHOICES i was.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
NINE i also like got A perm about that time
THAT i didn't know how to, handle SO i brushed
it out every.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Day the only TIME i had A, Perm i'm, LIKE
i didn't know.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Things, also my mother was a, lesbian SO i remember
one of her friends coming.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Over AND i was, Like, karen you need to wear.
Deodurant AND i was, Like i'm, sorry what we all have.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
To have that. Moment tradi is probably MORE.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
I had to put such dyke lesbian mom to this,
day she's, like can you help me put lipstick? On
i'm like, yeah, yeah she had no femin her app.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Whatsoever so LIKE i really enjoy being like Super friends one.
Days not. TODAY i put mascara on BECAUSE i was, Like.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I'm gonna try not to look so for before a
little bit, younger but, yeah like coming out of, that
like there was times THAT i was so excited to
be super. Fun BUT i grew up in a super,
traumatic shitty. Environment so most of the time WHEN i
was a, KID i don't want anybody to know WHO
i was attracted to BECAUSE i was also, LIKE i don't,

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Know i'm molested bout my mom's drug dealer and like
she had a lot of pedophiles. Around so like my
sexuality or like feeling LIKE i was a beautiful was
like more of a more of a liability than it
was on anything. Else so AS i am, TODAY i
love the chance to be able to be like super,
masked super fun and just have that gender, fluidity have

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that like have people like, wonder.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Oh this is your, Wife you're totally.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Lesbian, NO i liked, dick but by, GOLLY i also
love having a. Wife, yeah so they're not mutually.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Exclusive, yeah you, know, uh funnily.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Enough so WHEN i was growing up in the nineties early,
nineties my stepdad.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Transitioned it's.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Better.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah SO i remember WHEN i went to, college.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Like when we moved to The, midwest and that was
like a thing you couldn't talk, about, like don't bring it,
up don't bring it, up, Right and so a few
years later to get revealed, Whatever but in, college it
got found somebody found, out, like, so so you're so that,
Happened like, yeah like so are you?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Gay i'm like my stepdad became a, woman why WOULD
i be?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Gay and by the, way that gender and sexuality are
not mutually, Right it's just like but like there's a
lot of.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Ignorance it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Acknowledge that somebody feels so comfortable in being something that
you didn't expect that you need to honor and respect,
That like.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Fuck, yeah if you know who you, are. BITCH i
used to use this analogy for my.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Kids and you have a young, child and so when
my kids were about your kid's, AGE i remember saying, like,
hey just remember when you get a new, toy you really.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Want to play with. It so you're never gonna give
somebody else.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Your toy and ask them how much SHOULD i enjoy this?
Toy you figure out how much you like your toy
before you share it with. Others and then like as
they got, older it became like, this, like, hey make
sure you know your body.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
And what you like before you start engaging with.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Others and they're, like, oh and being trapped in the
car is the best way to have conversations with. PRETEENS
i remember talking with my two youngest biologically boys about
how sperm is a protein and it collaguates or.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
It could be. Coagulate thank You, english not my first.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Languish how it's a, protein and protein exposed to heat becomes,
rubbery which is why you don't want to overcook your
eggs and it gets stuck in the shower. Drains, though
if you're gonna come in the, shower pro, tip rinse
it with cold. WATER i THINK i also just got a.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Like A i had to have this conversation with a grown.
Woman i'm, like, no it's not it's not, sexy it's not.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Fun it becomes. Concrete, right it's not. Cool it's not.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Cool don't put your eggshells down to the garbage. Disposal
don't come down the shower with hot. Water, yeah like,
That rinse it with cold water or tissue or whatever
the fuck it. IS i don't, TOILET i don't. Care
hot water not, good not good for, eggs not good
for Common. Yeah and do you know, that, like, actually
dormitories they found out early on that they had to

(45:25):
in the college dormitories make bigger sewer lines for.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
The male dormitory because of the amount.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Of hot, come so much Hot that's WHY i wanted
this podcast to have just a lot of conversation about hot.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Come there's gonna be a pair out there that has
like a twelve year old like boy that's gonna have
to be Like, god damn.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
It that's why that she's especially with their new hair
dews and all that hair that goes down like the
hair like matches with all of the other stuff.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Done.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
No, also boys shower rooms in college are the worst, because,
uh someone's all gonna put it's so funny to put
a fucking open can of tuna fish in, there so
like the.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Heat they're like they put it in a. Night did
you live on?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Campus yeah, yeah two.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Semesters yeah, Yeah BUT i had a sweet the second
semester BECAUSE i got in with the.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Over grid what do they, call you, know the older
students like a juniors and.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Seniors oh, Yeah dan was one of, those SO i.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
WAS i was a freshman, still BUT i got in
with the older.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Students they were you have, sweets AND i got into
one of the sweet and then they all dropped, Out
SO i WAS i had a sweet to myself and
they tried to build me for all four, spaces like, no, no,
no so my hope they dropped.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
OUT i owe you for one space. Right, also, YES
i am a.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
FRESHMAN i had a similar situation halfway through the. Year
my grandfather died and my mom went psycho and she
kept harassing my roommate and we went like to like
remediation and they're, like, okay, well clearly.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
One of you don't want to live here.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Anymore And i'm, like, uh she half the time spends
the time at her her friend's, house and my mom she's.
PSYCHO i can't keep my mom from calling up and using.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Racist slurs to this. Lady my. Roommate, yeah my roommate Was.
Korean she was so.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Sweet she was, LIKE i remember one of our first
like bonding, nights she was, like let me explain to
you the difference last, name so you can identify whether They're, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese.
Japanese AND i was, like, dude thank you for the.
Novel like she just like dropped out the. Knowledge BECAUSE
i didn't have like a lot Of korean friends at that.
Point at Sack hi THAT i went to for high,
school we had Mean, Mong, Vietnamese, Chinese, japanese but we

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didn't have Like, koreans, Okay and so this was like
she was A korean roommate and she was, like oh,
no let me tell you about The koreans AND i
was like why. Can then she asked me like typical
white people, issues like questions like, oh do you really
like have salad a room?

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Meal?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
No, no have.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
You seen our? Bodies, no we don't know what salad.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Is my mom went crazy and like would call up
and be, like my daughter pays this phone, bill why
are you?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Answering And i'm, like howbody the same has to be
on the fucking phone. Bill she pays me fifty. Percent
this is not my. Line stop at, you psychotic.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Asshole, also my parents are, SHITTY i mean We i've
been through so much stuff with. Them but so she
ended up was like fuck, It i'm just gonna share
a room in one of my friend's apartments.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Because they were like all upper. Classmen and she was
From Orange. COUNTY i.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Was From Orange county and she was From Orange. County
AND i was, LIKE i have nowhere.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
To, live but she's got like she can.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Literally live with her. Parents she can live with all our.
FRIENDS i have nobody in. Nothing so the second half
of the YEAR i had the entire place to myself.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
And it was, like that's, awesome but it was also
kind of like also.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Lonely like BUT i was on the third floor At
ucravine in Gray, haven's so it was All lord of
The rings themed and so Like pippin is where we
went to go get like our like that was like
our cafeteria and.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Stuff SO i.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Was on the third, floor which was a co ed,
floor so we like the first two floors were not
co ed, floors but the third floor was co, ed
and so there would be like but the guy's side
was on the left and the girl's side was on the.
Right but still when you had to go to the,
bathroom sometimes you'd walk it in there'd be a guy,
there LIKE i don't want to go on the other,
side AND i was like.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Cool or IF i was on the guys, SIDE i
would go to the guy's bathroom and it was.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Like, yeah this is what we do on the co
Ed so, YEAH i, mean, fuck it just makes me feel.
Old it makes me feel.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Old, YES.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I think we've reached our breaking points. Here.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
KAREN i want to thank you so much for being
here and being.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
YOURSELF i hope the listeners enjoyed. THAT i think you're.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
WONDERFUL i hope you all vote THAT i come back
on and become like.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Every, third Like i'll be the odd number.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
And i'll just be, like this is Why karen's. Here,
yes that's WHY i.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Drink it's so legitimately like both pain and. Pleasure you're entertained. Now,
yeah you've learned a.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
LOT i know exactly who you are.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
NOW i know where to go for like my jams backpack.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Repair, yeah we have to get you back in.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Front, yeah if you've got that front back the front
pocket not working from nineteen ninety one ninety.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Four dopest, era that was probably.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Me that was probably me knocking them out after.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
School so in our nine inch, nails like you, know
like Like i'm Gonna i'm gonna sell these. Others i'm
gonna beat with an umbrella like my friend is right,
now you, know OR i could sell this.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Up that's.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Fine, Yeah well we'll have to do this again where
we actually can order another.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Drink, yeah, THOUGH i mean planning is not our strong.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
SUIT adhd for the, Way, Yeah, karen where could people
find out more about?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
You if they want to find out more about?

Speaker 4 (50:48):
You this website it's Called think For it teach in
ka the number four it BECAUSE i do a lot
of stuff professionally and there's a little background on, there
like my cancer story.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
And up like.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
That otherwise at think For. It i've had that handle
since Like ao well instant.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Messenger that's why she calls it a. Handle wow DARE
I i know.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
THINK i like? Him but you know how many TIMES
i show the picture of me's slapping. You i'm still
proud of that moment over At Clear Channel. Studios see, okay, yeah,
Yeah i'm still proud of. That on that, note thank, You,
ben thank.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
YOU i hope this becomes wildly, popular of course because
of me and my, influence because that's the reason why it.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Would but you know it won't be for. Me if
anything That i've done has thrown, anything it's not because of.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Me and Hopefully god. Knows this is edited with like
also your.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Reactions, YEAH i Mean i'm Gonna i'm an amateur video.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Editor we'll see WHAT i come up with a few.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
People, hey hey for, me you could you can follow
me across social, media which is now Just facebook And
instagram At barley Met. Pod you can also go To
barney meypod dot com go forget check got my brand
new show to The Bomb shelter every Second wednesday at nine,
Pm the Silver. LINING i get national headliners to come
through at a cool piano jazz.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Bar thirty dollars. Tickets they're pretty.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Expensive is That Luna's cafe is used to be Silver?

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Lining? Yeah Silver? Lining, okay, yeah so they do doing
piano stuff a, LOT i.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Know, yeah so we're doing we're doing a comedy show in.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
There pretty. Cool.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Okay which day of the weekend is?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
It Second, wednesday nine?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Pm, OKAY i have to do.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
That they're Pretty we Got Amy miller coming.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Through NOW i have no idea Comedy Central, letter Last
Comic Standing.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Epics so you do?

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Comedy, yeah beer?

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Podcast yeah you do my, podcast which is this is
being re named.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
To WHY I Drink Karen edition With?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Karen, okay and then, yeah, okay what else do you
have going?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
On do you still do THE?

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Vfw till do THE? Vfw?

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Yep we got The comenience With Disabilities act coming On may, Second,
friday six pm it's ten dollars tickets for the, civilians
eight dollars for, veterans active members and first, responders five
dollars FOR vfw.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
MEMBERS i was going to, say who all need a drink.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
In this day and, age, right, exactly come on, out
just just wake up and you have a reason to
drink and watch comedy and, like you, know yeah, YEAH.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Vfw post sixty seven on Stock In. BOULEVARD i know
that seems LIKE i should be enough. Information there's ANOTHER
vfw post that ends in sixty, seven also on Stock In,
boulevard but that's the wrong. One you want to be
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merlinos or like if you are The, orange The Orange Shock,
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Speaker 1 (53:40):
Place, yeah, exactly let's see other.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
STUFF i am THAT i could probably just put this
out because that's probably not gonna come out.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Well, Also i've teamed up with Hyper Live events with
my Friend Joe, honnor who owns that, company to do some,
stuff and so we're putting together a pretty great show
On may twenty.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Second that's A thursday At brewing The Rancho. Cordova It's Mikey.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
WINFIELD i like him From America's Got. Talent he was a,
finalist but he's From sacramento. Originally he's been on the,
Office he's done a bunch of. Stuff great, dude he's
headlining the feature is From New.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Zealand his Name's Nick.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Ratto he is the sixth TIME mc of The year
In New, zealand one time funniest male comic Of New. Zealand,
yeah he's a kiwi very, funny family, friendly clean. Comic,
okay and most of McGill.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Higging those teenagers that need to be talked about coming
in the, Shower, yeah bring them.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Out so It's, Thursday may twenty, second seven. Pm pot
take us for twenty. Dollars, okay it's gonna sell.

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Out, Yeah, rancho there's not a lot of not.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
As, also It's Thursday. Thursday every beer is six.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Dollars all night long Falls yeah, again terrorist can fuck.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Themselves this show is a Steel it's fucking.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah fuck, yeah especially as the days get.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Longer that's too much for. You also sucessful going to sell.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Out it's the Only both of them hit me up
with dates that they were looking for that's the only
day they. Overlapped i'm, like, well we got to do
a fucking killer our show like.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Stop.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
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seven pm for.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
FREE i don't know this, place me brand.

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Is an all logger.

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Brewery oh, Yeah benji all. Good he used to work
at This basin And Urban.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Roots, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
It's really cool, spot excellent. Spot so it's him And Tristan,
johnson WHO i. Love and it's done Like christian like
he's done like church tours for. Years like, okay so
we can do clean comedy, there clean, laggers clean, comedy free.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
SHOW i gotta be. Great sacrament show, Up, Yes.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Docramento, yeah it's. Tough it's, tough you, know you. KNOW
i get your people out to become locals and know
like you, know the.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Owners, ALSO i finally created a mailing, List, karen WHAT
i made?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
One?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Finally holy Sh at the end of the Last Bomb,
SHELTER i was, LIKE i probably have.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
This, yeah oh my, god you want to talking about? It,
NO i have three people on.

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It oh, okay make sure you have your c a
a P a c p P A California Consumer Privacy
act c CCP a disclosures on.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
There i'm literally just emailing people directly because.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
There's ONLY i think we're out, of like the requirement.
Zone it's nice for.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Consent it's. Consent, yeah and you're a guy that would
LIKE i love.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Respect i'll look it up And i'll throw it into
the little. Things that depends on what.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
You're using technology, Wise like.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Right, Now i'm just cop you can paste the same
script into individual emails because it's three.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
People oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Okay WELL i don't y'all need to sign up SO
i can pay like charge them so he can pay
me to make like an actual email marketing.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
PLAN i have a NEWSLETTER i put. OUT i put
it out, yesterday two days, ago two days. Ago i'm
putting on another one tomorrow because of the cool STUFF
i just mentioned that goes goes by.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
TOMORROW i think for it everywhere you, can like you,
Know i'm not very.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Private i'm very, secure but not very, private not.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Very, private open book. Available what else do you have to?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Say?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
UH i think THAT'S i think that's, It, karen you did, it.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Cheers This this is WHY i Drink Karen lewis.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Cider thank, You, Ben Rice barley and. ME i can't
wait for the next time. Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
GOODBYE i don't have a sign off for this.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
One. Goodbye, Yeah, slansha so, long.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
FAREWELL i hope you like your drink wherever you got.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
IT i hope it was made well.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Back that's for all of You sounded music and Anti
hitler fans out.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
There, yeah very. Important hopefully if you're if you're not
that you should stop. Listening i'll just. Stop DARE i say,
it stop, listening.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Stop Or i'm not going to shut. Up hit the.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Button, goodbye