January 13, 2023 • 29 mins
Barbarians! We WON! We are the winners of the Signal Awards Listener's Choice um, Award...and nabbed a silver medal for Best Comedy Episode for the Stormy Daniels story! You folks showed the eff up! THANK YOU!!!!!!
I've started a companion podcast for Cocked Tales and Wasted Nights. It's called "Counterpoints". It's going to basically be a post interview chat at my kitchen counter after we do the real one in the studio. A lot more informal, and after a few more beers! Right now there's one episode up on Patreon and I wanted to share this one with y'all for free dollars!
I plan to release two a month on Patreon, so if you're into it, here's the link:
patreon.com/BehindBarsCockedtalesandwastednights
So, here's Matt and I talking about Tinder, drugs and cowboy boots, plus an update on Kid Amazing!
Would love some feedback!
cockedtalesandwastednights@gmail.com
Cheers!
I've started a companion podcast for Cocked Tales and Wasted Nights. It's called "Counterpoints". It's going to basically be a post interview chat at my kitchen counter after we do the real one in the studio. A lot more informal, and after a few more beers! Right now there's one episode up on Patreon and I wanted to share this one with y'all for free dollars!
I plan to release two a month on Patreon, so if you're into it, here's the link:
patreon.com/BehindBarsCockedtalesandwastednights
So, here's Matt and I talking about Tinder, drugs and cowboy boots, plus an update on Kid Amazing!
Would love some feedback!
cockedtalesandwastednights@gmail.com
Cheers!
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Check one two, check one two? Want to do mic check? Um
checking my checkerston from where you weresitting though, So oh over, I
have to go over here? Nofrom wait, no right there, I
just don't lean forward. Oh okay, dude, Yeah sorry I was.
I was silencing my phone so allthe I don't get all those text messages
from all those perfect um all right, so cool, All right, everybody,
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Welcome to Counterpoints. This is thesecond episode. We got it up
on Patreon. I'm gonna put alink in the show notes for you guys.
This is going to be an informalsort of a post game thing to
behind Bars. It's where I cankind of come out to the kitchen counter
and make some points with the guests, like go over the interview, what'd
you like, what didn't you like? What did you wish you said?
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What do you wish you didn't say? Stuff like that. Super informal.
And this is the second iteration ofthat. And Matt is my guest again,
say hi, Matt, Hi,Matt. All right, before we
get to Counterpoints, so I wantto thank everybody for voting the little awards.
We actually won Listeners Choice. Webeat HBO and Netflix guys. Thank
you. That was all you guys, Thank you so much. And the
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judges gave us a silver medal,so we beat Netflix, but HBO got
the gold, but we got thesilver. So that's great. Silver medal
and Listeners Choice Award. Again,thank you so much. Our podcast about
debauchery, embarrassing sex, and druguse is an award winner. Now,
I think it's a testament to youraudience because when you told me that it
was a Listener Choice Award, itmade me think that the award issuers actually
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acknowledged that actual listeners actually voted.So kudos to your audience. I mean
it was it's great. Yeah,audience is awesome. You guys, the
barbarians, Yes, they came out. They showed up. Now, when
you said informal about this, doesthat mean we can continue without pants?
Yeah? Okay, I'm just gonnawear my cowboy boots and my tidy wadies
like I'm doing all right good.I like that. It inspires me.
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Yeah, there's an image for allyou all all y'all got my cowboy boots
on. I'm saying, oh,y'all, one day in boot it's so
funny and you're ready to line oneday in boots. I'm ready to line
it. Yeah, it's the stockshow in Denver, now kidding. I
actually went to Massachusetts and I gotfucking cowboy boots. Lives in Denver seven
years. No cowboy Boots go toBoston one week, Cowboy boots. How
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does that happen? Which, again, you and I talk about this a
lot, being that you're from NewEngland and I've spent time in New England,
which is where we met. ButNew England is totally fucking redneck.
Yeah. Everyone everyone thinks that progressiveand all these university students walking around with
lantes, but it's freaking redneck.It's fireworks and Nascar man. Yeah,
who is year round work? Who'slike everybody outside of the city. It's
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country music, It's it's flanneled,it's Timberland's year round in the summer,
shorts, Timberland's you know that kindof thing. Yeah, drinking beer like
King of the Hill outside drinking beersevery day. That was a trivia question
the other week. Last week therewas a King of the Hill question.
I did not know it. Ohgood. That's a good thing. When
you do one of those categories.It's not really the great, I'm learning
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learning, So give you guys anupdate two on the kid Amazing podcast.
So check this out. The FAAdown flights, so everything got grounded until
nine, and then when they gotcaught up, my flight ended up getting
canceled. So I got a newone at six in the morning, which
means get there at four thirty,which means get up at like three to
thirty. So naturally, I metup with my brother and we just went
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to Foxwoods Casino and partied all theway until we went to the airport.
Natural conclusion, Yeah, well mightas well just stay up and keep going.
Yes. So that turned out horriblybecause my flight got delayed. So
I was in there drunk, gettingsober with all these strangers in a packed
airport if pissed off people, andthen my flight leaves an hour and a
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half later. I get on itgo to Philly. Missed my connecting flight,
so now I have to reroute,so I went to I went from
Providence to Philadelphia to Phoenix to Denver. I should have gotten a T shirt
from every single fucking city that Iwas in yesterday, sixteen hours and I
was drunk and sober, and Ihad been away since ten o'clock the day
before in the morning. So yeah, it sounds like a tour of the
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great culinary cities of the United States. Oh it was. It was.
It was like Anthony Bourdain. Iate it all the finest airput establishments,
bus station, hose. This breakfastburrito in Phoenix is par excellent. Oh
my god. I had I hada case of do it there, Shadow
Cowboy, there we go because Ihad my boots on. Hey you're here
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and you're here safe. So whathappened? So at Foxwoods? Foxwoods?
Yeah, so Foxwoods. I wasdoing karaoke at the Scorpion Bar. Just
smashed Purple Rain by the way,just so you know. And I was
about to go on and do gotyou where I want you buy the flies
another go too, and Stormy callsStormy. Stormy Daniels calls out of the
blue, Out of the blue.She's like, what are you doing.
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I'm like, I'm about to sendkaraoke at a bar in Foxwoods. She's
like, I canna tell you whatshe said. But anyway, we started
talking and she's good to go forrecording the Kid Amazing podcast. He plays
the female lead DNA, So staytuned. Those episodes will be coming soon.
We got to record the whole seasonthen release it, so it's gonna
be a little while, but itis happening, guys. So I just
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want you to know that anyway.And she's phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal in
it. A lot of innuendo,give her a lot of lines that are
sexual out. There's a lot ofoutuendo too, innuendo, outuendo that's coming.
Oh that's you like that one.It goes at uendo comes outdo something
for food. You can keep thatone, Thank you, buddy, you
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can keep that one. But no, that was a that was a bolt
out of the blue call that wewere already rocking. But that's putting some
serious wind in the sales. Yeah, we're ready to go, and we're
recording episode three this weekend. YEP, very excited. Three of ten.
YEP. One is done, twois done. That's what three means.
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So in the meantime, we're it'sgot a message on Tinder hold on oo,
okay, I'll go. I'll againthink the uh the listening audience,
because, um, while I'm alongtime friend of Greg, I'm also a
fan of the show and I've enjoyedlistening to I've listened to every episode of
Behind Bars. I particularly like theepisodes involving hot women. Yes, nothing
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against the guys, but they boreme. No offense buck um, But
it's the women. Je. I'mjust hey, I'm being honest. If
I can't be honest on me,no, you gotta be honter points.
I was just saying, geez,I was being honest, yeah, or
or or countertangents counterpoints. Um.I'm not changing the name I like.
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I just it's just hard for meto get female guests because of the situation,
Like you're coming over my place,we're getting sucked up really quick,
and then we're going into my closet, which is not a walk in closet,
and it's just an odd situation.So it's like, hey, you
want to come over and be alonewith me in my apartment. Other either
has to be on one side ofthe coin, it's complete trust and understanding
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or UM. The other side ofthe coin is um. They have no
risk management mechanism in their brain.Yeah, it's yeah, thank god,
thank god for those This sounds fine. Yeah, have you thought this through?
That's fine? So you want meto come over each troops. You
go, okay, drink very quick, intense period. I've been go into
your closet with you alone in yourapartment with your lights. Yeah, yeah,
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sounds good. Let's okay, let'swrong? Yes? Wrong? Whenever
are we one taking this? Whatare we doing? We're always on one
take all? Right, So thisis Counterpoints, Part two, volume into
issue two. Yeah, although wehave many issues, but this is issue
too. There have a lot ofissues. Um, where do you want
to ramble? I don't know.I just want to like that girl that
just messaged me on Yeah, I'vebeen doing this thing now, Like first
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I was like swiping. Then I'mlike you start, you go like,
okay, do I want to datethat one? Like yeah? And then
like can I when I sleep withher? Would she sleep with me?
Let's find out? Okay, Andthen you don't match it like oh you
put me in the trash pile,you bitch. And then now I do
this thing like a lot of timesgirls will do this thing strategically where if
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they're not like their looks aren't therea strong suit, they'll take pictures with
their friends in their profile, right, and like you got to figure out
like which one they are as youswipe through. Can you have all of
them? Well? See, that'sthe thing. Now I'm looking at them,
I'm like, I don't like youor any of your friends. It's
likely don't even like the world thatyou hang on to anything in your life,
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right, Okay, so you don'tswipe on those. I don't because
I'm I'm I'm I'm woefully unfamiliar withthe platforms. I don't swipe on girls
that have anything with them playing golf, those golf skirts and those shoes.
I don't like it. I don'tlike it. And horses if you're riding
horses, I don't like horse girls. Gotcha? Yeah, horse girls?
And now I got cowboy boots thatcould will get me near a horse,
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you know hashtag Christopher Reef. Let'slet's be honest. Well, you don't
have to get on them. Yeah, I don't want to be here?
Ki shit? Okay? Um?Can I ask a personal course of course?
What we do here? Tell meabout the last person you swiped yes
on and what made you do it? Oh, this last person I swiped
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yes on? She was hot andI read the bios. I would too,
I always read them. I liketo know, like what people are
putting out there for like their selfadvertising. And uh, she she had
bisexual Okay, so I was like, Okay, that's awesome. That means
like, you know, you know, so everything could be on the menu
and the implication other menues involved aswell, the implications there. Yeah,
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and like she was hot, divorced, no kids, Okay, so I
was like, cool, that meansyou don't have to like date every two
weeks because she's got the kids oneweek. You know, you're right,
You're you're thinking logistics at this point. Yeah, which is great too.
I like those situations sometimes too,because like every other week is great.
Sometimes that's a senor to a goodrelationship is not really spending time with the
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other person moderating it. That's howyou laugh, That's how you make it
last. Okay, yeah, Isee this. Yeah. And so did
she respond? Yeah, yeah,she message to be back. Okay,
she said. What does she sayin her bio? She said something about
let me find it. It wassomething about something makes her day, but
anal makes her weak. Oh wow, I wrote, I wrote, it's
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bold. I wrote, that's hilarious. Steered into the skid, steered into
the skin. I didn't you eventry to Um, Now, okay,
that's cool, she messaged you.Yeah, now you swiped on her.
Yes, would you get a notificationif she rejected it or deleted it?
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They don't do that. Just dothe positive reinforce. Okay. I don't
want to make you feel worse.I haven't used it, so I don't
know. Yeah, so, okay, you're only getting the positive reinforcement.
You could put it out there tolike six, you might get it back
from one or two. Dude,there's so many girls I've matched with that
I don't even message. So Iwas like, I was drunk when he
swiped on you. But you justlike that, takeaway that serotonin, that
dope boost. Okay, um,but yeah, I got like a bunch
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of likes and our people on thereto date? Are they on there to
hook up? Both? Okay?And this is tim Naomi. That's I'm
owed backwards. She's toxic. Lookat that. Okay, yeah, swiping
right on her? Who's that guy? I don't know. Listeners, if
you could see the imagery that Gregwas showing me, it was a fifty
seven year old man dressed up asa woman. It was a twenty three
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year old chicken lingerie, not thatwe have any problems with either. No
Saturday nights get weird. What canwe say? It's only Friday, Friday
the thirteenth, Baby, we'll seewhat happens. Oh Friday. That that's
right. Yeah, so we coulddo like a we could do like a
fun fact Friday. Fun fact Friday. What kind of facts? Um?
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That's a good like. I don'twant to turn it into a trivia game.
No, no, it's not trivia, but like, um, fun
fact Friday. Um um. I'venever dropped acid really nope. I just
did something like at a really inopportunetime the other day. What was I
doing? Oh? How was atwork? And uh my bar back was
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like fucking just you know, outof steam. Man just chugging up the
hill, chug a chug a chuggon one coal? How how many hours
in? Oh? He just gotthere. Oh geez. I'm like,
dude, what's going on? He'slike, oh, man, I did
some assid I did some ll lastnight. I'm like, oh my god,
dude, you didn't sleep. No, I meant either, I didn't
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do acid. Oh shit. Andthen I'm an idiot. I go you
got any He's like, yeah,you want something. I'm like, fuck,
And it was like a Thursday.So it's like a hit and miss
if it's gonna be busy, right, Okay, So it's there, My
god, it's like it's it callsme like the way the Wilderness called Daniel
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Boone. Yeah, oh rag thesiren. The sirens are dude. So
I'm like, all right, soI take it. I put it on
my tongue and I just go towork. Fifteen minutes later at least these
girls show they said, hey,how are you? My Hi, how
are you? And they were alllike Christmas tree sparkly and and I'm like,
I gotta just remember they can't seewhat I see, right, so
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my face must look normal. Imust convey normalcy. Yeah, so I
just pretended. I'm like why amI doing this? And then I and
like acid is a thing where likeit's all about your environment. It's all
about who you're hanging out with,like vibes energy, like positive vibes is
everything. And so here I amat work like that. I could have
a stranger come up and just bea dick and send me sideways. I
go on a bad trip, right, So I get to the point where
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I'm like starting to get a littleoverwhelmed. I'm starting to trip, dick,
and like, oh god, Igot a lot of orders coming right
now. I just this whole groupjust walked in the door. How is
your how is the bar back doing? Oh? He was shit. I
was doing extra shit. No,but did he did he drop his Oh
yeah yeah yeah yeah. But hedidn't have a recovery level like he didn't.
He was already spent. Like It'salmost like lighting a bunch of fireworks
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off. It was okay, youknow you can't you can't re level up.
Yeah, you can't just keep tripping, Okay, can I guess I
think in theory you could. Butlike he was working, he had been
up all night tripping hard, andthen he just took like one more hit.
It wasn't gonna do anything because healready had so much insists got it.
So it's I was going fresh.It's not even a maintenance hit.
I wasn't fresh, but I wasgoing and without having taken acid. Yes,
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yeah, And it was dude,I was talking about just the girls.
I'm just remember it looked like Iwas looking at him through like one
of those prison glasses, like thosekaleidoscope things. I was like, holy
shit, don't portray you what youreyes are showing you right now. And
just I made them drinks and thenwe started talking and I was like I
was cheeseing man so hard. Mysmile like my had fish hooks on me.
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Like the joke, do you doyou come away with the impression that
anyone knows when you're doing that?Oh, in your mind, everybody knows,
well beyond your own internal paranoia.Did you actually get the sense of
anybody sort of like did anybody thatkind of like wink at you and be
like I get it? Well?Does that? As? It's a tough
one, Like you can always tellwhen someone's drunk, you know when someone's
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stronk, Yeah, you know whensomeone's stuped. Yeah, It's tough to
tell when someone's on shrooms or acidor blow unless you like the blow.
There's the telltale like the Jaws guygrinds his teeth and moves his jaw side
to side and does shut if he'sreally cranking it? Sure? Yeah,
no, no one, I'm sureno one that's listening likes having that guy
at the bar. No. Weused to have a guy. His name
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was Josh Josh, and I usedto call him Jaws. Okay, grinding,
Can I get one? I'm like, yeah, here comes Jaws.
Josh, just gone. Jaws ishere. He's going on side to side
Jaws. I'm like, what areyou doing, dude? Though you're captain
obvious, can't fuck it now.I gotta lie to you every time you
ask me for one and say Idon't have it. Okay. So in
the acid shrooms blow world, Yeah, do you think there's sort of this
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truce between barbarians and patrons? Likedo you think there's this sort of understand
like everybody's dealt with I mean,look, everyone and their mother is dealt
with annoying drunk people. Yeah,but do you think there's almost like a
truce of like, hey, you'rehaving a good time, keep it level.
Oh if somebody comes in on something, or if or if something,
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one of the staff is, oh, yeah, there's just this und you
gonna do your business, you know, I mean, because Molly's a tough
one to hide to Kenemine now isthe other one? People like, what's
that doing? He looks like asloth. Oh it slows you, okay,
slow down? The track gotch likethat okay, and like sometimes like
you know, this is one yearI work with Like, do you want
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some k oh? I know I'mworking working. I know. It's like,
but you just took acid. Yeah, that's like a it's not really
a performance enhancer, but it's notgonna like slow. But what do you
think so being being a bartender foras long as you've been, what would
you say is the drug that moreoften than not produces positive outcomes for everyone
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involved in a social setting? Oh, mushrooms. So mushrooms is just like
this universal. People are kind ofcool. It doesn't cause any problem.
Yeah, every was happy. You'renot forgetting shit, you're not clumsy,
You're not going to break glasses oranything. You're just happy. If you
eat too much, you get alittle sparkly, you know. But that's
like it's not like you're tripping dicklike on acid. Oh. So the
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end of the story is, oh, yes, I started like it started
getting really fucking busy, okay,And then like another bartender came down from
upstairs because it wasn't busy up there, like, hey are you guys doing?
I'm like I would actually like togo. I should probably go.
I'll give you twenty bucks to coverthe rest of my shift because they were
the next person cut. Yeah,I could use the twenty I'm like fantastic
because you know, and I didn'tsay anything, but I put myself in
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a position where I need to go. It could get away from me.
Yeah, so the smart move is, Yeah, what was not a good
call? It was taking acid ona Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday,
Tuesday. Yeah, on a Thursday. Are you saying that because it
just got a little too busy enoughto handle it. I was handling it,
but like, I just knew thatI was vulnerable in order away from
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messing it up. I was vulnerablefrom bad energy coming in or something going
south. Okay, and then thatwould have messed me up. That's interesting,
Yeah, because I think like withwith shrooms and everything like that,
it doesn't it doesn't mute your desireto do anything else. Like say you're
with a group of friends and you'reown shrooms. Yep, you could sort
of be like do you want todo this? Sure? Do you want
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to go do karaoke? Sure?Do you want to dance? Sure?
Do you want to have a drink? Sure? Do you want to get
something to eat. It doesn't muteany of your other like when you're stone
you're stoned. Yeah, just apiece of meat that sits there. And
you're not interested in drinking, you'renot interested in really being social, right,
you're just sort of mailing it in. But with shrooms, it's kind
of like, well, what doyou want to do next? Yeah,
it's a little It's like it's likea couple espressos with some heavy weed.
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I don't know, man, it'sweird. It's just like it makes you.
It gives you like a body tickle. It makes you smile, like,
it makes you super happy. Youget see for me and a lot
of people get this. Get these. You get the yawns, and you
get the stretches. You startly goand like, well you're working stuff out
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right. Yeah, but it's likeI can go at that point, I
can go right to sleep and havethe best dreams. I sleep on shrooms.
If I do a bunch of blow, i'll shrooms. And that can
like alcohol can mess up your sleep, I mean totally messes up your sleep.
Shrims, Yeah, it does.Alcohol is a primitive, stupid drug.
It's poison. I hate it somuch better. Stuff out there,
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so to the you know, literallyhundreds and hundreds of people who have made
millions of dollars slinging drinks. We'renot saying you're wrong. We're just saying
everything should be on the menu.Yeah. Well yeah, like drinking at
work, it's just don't get hiringyour own supply. I mean, I
drink to cope at work, butI don't really go out to drink to
like enjoy it, like to goout and have fun. Like I'll have
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some drinks and stuff, but Idon't go to a bar. Okay here,
like this is not really a funfact for Friday. But if they
had a mushroom bar, I wouldgo to that. Sorry, that's kind
of interesting. Yeah, and I'msure that's that's that's gonna be happening,
so that there's already a movement.You could sort of see it coming,
um because I think this is dispensaryin British Columbia right now. Interesting.
And they're doing all these studies forPTSD and everything like that. The psilocybin.
Oh, it's it's on the forefrontright now. Oh yeah, that's
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very interesting. Yeah, that's thenext green rush. You know, I
started investing in the psilocybin construct whateverthat industry is going to look like.
I don't know. Yeah, butthere's teas and chocolates and all these shorts.
There's money to be made. It'sartisanal, it is. So what
is you what? It's kind oflike a fun not a fun fact,
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but just like a what is yourfavorite? So? I know you don't
drink much, right, but whatwould be what would be the best drink
in the best scenario for you?Like you can be anywhere in the world,
doing anything, having anything served toyou. What would be like the
ideal drink? It all depends,man, It depends on where you are
and what's going on. Like likethe other night, I had like a
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nice steak dinner, so I havea like just whiskey on the rocks.
Normally I'll do a Miller LIGHTE.Believe it or not, I have a
preference over Bud the light Coors likeMiller LIGHTE and a shot at tequila.
That's my move. Uh. IfI'm if I'm in the Tropics, I'm
in Mexico. Yeah, I'm abartender. I feel guilty about it,
but I guess what I want tofucking pedia Colada. I want to frozen
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dacery. I want to do thatshit because you're in the setting. Yeah,
that's what That's what I was gettingat. It's like I just don't
have it to excess because I don'tlike the effects. I don't like the
high. No um, it's neverends well. People are like, how
do you just do blow without drinking? I'm because I just want to feel
it, like it cuts it,it numbs it, it dulls it,
and then you're not yeah getting thefull You're not Jaws. No, you're
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not Jaws Jaws A but I likethat. Yeah. It's it's it's like
music. A drink can fit themood. Yeah, it fits the mood
in the setting. That's what it'sgot going with, or all the different
forms it takes, you know whatI mean. We'll just people have to
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educate themselves with the different strains ofshrimps. Yeah. I like this chocolate.
Like they have the capsules which islike the powder. It's like a
stem caps like all ground up.But like you don't like smoothie, it's
like in a capsule. You couldput it in a smoothie. Yeah,
you could just find it up orjust take it. And I just fucking
eat it because it's all like growncontrolled. It's not in cowshit like in
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the old days. It's like fuckinggrown in a clean place. And it's
like I just eat a stem becausepeople micro dose and I've attempted that.
M So I guess I'm macro doseaccording to what other people takes. But
that's like my dose. I takelike two stems and go to work or
something like that. Okay, havebest conversations, have the best time,
keep up, coworker, employee morale, Hey, what's up? I got?
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I got seven different handshakes with allthe different bussers I have whatever,
you know, I mean, I'mlike fucking what's going on? Yeah,
well, it's like all these um, you know, all these old stimulants,
mushrooms, coca leaves. Like haveyou ever heard of beetlenut? No?
Um, beetlenut? Is this?You know? It's it's incredibly popular
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through like the islands of Southeast Asia, like Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines,
where it's just this, it's thisred stained nut. Oh. I
have heard and it's like you sometimeshear the stories of like the taxis in
Southeast Asia have these streaks down thedoor people, because the taxi drivers just
(23:36):
sort of suck on beetlenut all day, just put it in their cheek and
it's just it's this appetite suppressant.It's a mild stimulant. It's a It
just keeps you going through. Youcan do your tasks with a little bit
more focus and a little bit moremotivation and putting your time and not think
to yourself, I gotta stop toeat or I gotta stopped. Yes,
(23:56):
it's like I can do my joborganic adderall is well. All these natural
coffee is a plant, you know, So like all these natural stimulants are
part of the global economy. Coffeeis just an enema. It's just a
hot enema. That's why I likeit, because innuendo comes out out nuendo.
(24:18):
Yeah, that's why I drink coffee. Yeah, nothing gets a moving
like coffee brought to you. Buycoffee. That's what ilse to be telling
people today. You told about theaward. Yeah, you told him about
kid amazing. Yep, we dida fun fact. You've never dropped acid.
We're gonna change that. Iowaska body. That's what we do up in
(24:38):
Boulder. That's a whole thing Yeah, that's a that's a that's a that's
a weekend commitment, right, yeah, okay, Yeah, I think I'm
almost I think I'm almost mildly readyfor that. All right, Yeah,
me too. I'll be ready tosay one. I'll be ready. Well,
it's it's interesting you mentioned that,because, um, I'm here in
(24:59):
Colorado with you for the for anextended duration. And some time back,
a friend of mine did my tarotand she laid the cards out in an
irregular pattern. It wasn't like shejust you know, like how you were
at Foxwoods, you know how likethey just a dealer can like just swipe
(25:21):
the cards like a rainbow and they'rejust in this pattern. Yeah. So
she laid the cards out, andmy vision of it was of a mountain
range. When she laid it out. You've never taken acid, no,
no, But the cards appeared toyou like a mountain cards on the table.
They appeared to me like a mountainrange. And so she offered me
(25:45):
the opportunity to pick one, andso I picked the one at the top
and she flipped it and it wasthe King of Swords. Oh yeah,
I've had that before. The Kingof Swords. And in the background of
the King of Swords was the topof a mountain. Wow, and so
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beyond that pattern and then the cardand it was you know, she was
interpreting it as you know, takingup a leadership position, being your own
champion, things along those lines.Now that I interpret all the symbolism and
the the layout of it all,it was like I had to come here,
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yeah, front Range being told powersound, mountains a power sound,
get to a safe place. Yesyou got Nora d So Yeah, Denver
Boulder, fucking great, you lovedit, or what I love Colorado to
pieces. But I'm just I'm I'mphysiologically resistant because I've lived for two plus
(26:56):
decades in southern California. Yeah,I mean, I don't have any fat
on me. I don't do wellin the cold. I can outlast anyone
in the summer, but um,I just the cold has been an adjustment.
Yeah, I mean, knowing Icame here in like late December and
the biggest annual whatever. I know. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying,
twenty five hours of the car people, twenty five hours in the car,
(27:17):
my head sat I exhausted all mypodcasts. Yeah, um, and
I listened to a lot of VanHalen Um. But you know, Colorado
is beautiful and the people here aregreat, and the mountains are utterly amazing
to look at every day and youcan see how like the mountains shape the
weather. Yeah, like the frontscome in and the mountains are like,
(27:37):
wait, go this way, andit's literally it's it's it's amazing. So
I am I am delighted to behere and we're recording. Yeah, so
we're getting work done all right.So um yeah, this was Counterpoints episode
two with Matt Um. Like Isaid, uh, let us know what
you think, what you like.What do you guys want to hear.
If you have any guests that you'dwant to hear more from from behind bars,
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any stories that got cut short,any any particular people you found funny,
you found boring, I'd like toknow. Just email me at Cocktails
and Wasted Nights at Gmail. Letme know and we'll get you squared away
with all the listening orgasm stuff inyour whole And if you've been a listener
(28:22):
and haven't and want to tell yourstory, reach out to Greg. Yeah,
let's hear what you guys got.I can't be the one fucking up
all the time. Well, thisis good. Like you said, it
was casual Counterpoints Part two, it'sinformal. We don't have pants. Yeah
we mentioned kid amazing you thank everybodyfor the award, which is so cool.
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Signal Awards, Listeners Choice, it'sso cool. Yeah, thanks again,
Barbarians and uh yeah, just emailme cocktails and wasted nights at Gmail.
Again. This is Counterpoints for free. We're gonna put it up on
Patreon. We're gonna have some guestsback. We're gonna talk about their interviews,
play some clips, and then figureout what the hell they were thinking
or that they weren't thinking, andwe'll take it from there. But I'd
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love to hear some feedback on this, and I'm glad we had this talk.
I feel richer for the experience.I now returned you to your regularly
scheduled daily programming. Cheers.
Check one two, check one two? Want to do mic check? Um
checking my checkerston from where you weresitting though, So oh over, I
have to go over here? Nofrom wait, no right there, I
just don't lean forward. Oh okay, dude, Yeah sorry I was.
I was silencing my phone so allthe I don't get all those text messages
from all those perfect um all right, so cool, All right, everybody,
(00:24):
Welcome to Counterpoints. This is thesecond episode. We got it up
on Patreon. I'm gonna put alink in the show notes for you guys.
This is going to be an informalsort of a post game thing to
behind Bars. It's where I cankind of come out to the kitchen counter
and make some points with the guests, like go over the interview, what'd
you like, what didn't you like? What did you wish you said?
(00:44):
What do you wish you didn't say? Stuff like that. Super informal.
And this is the second iteration ofthat. And Matt is my guest again,
say hi, Matt, Hi,Matt. All right, before we
get to Counterpoints, so I wantto thank everybody for voting the little awards.
We actually won Listeners Choice. Webeat HBO and Netflix guys. Thank
you. That was all you guys, Thank you so much. And the
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judges gave us a silver medal,so we beat Netflix, but HBO got
the gold, but we got thesilver. So that's great. Silver medal
and Listeners Choice Award. Again,thank you so much. Our podcast about
debauchery, embarrassing sex, and druguse is an award winner. Now,
I think it's a testament to youraudience because when you told me that it
was a Listener Choice Award, itmade me think that the award issuers actually
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acknowledged that actual listeners actually voted.So kudos to your audience. I mean
it was it's great. Yeah,audience is awesome. You guys, the
barbarians, Yes, they came out. They showed up. Now, when
you said informal about this, doesthat mean we can continue without pants?
Yeah? Okay, I'm just gonnawear my cowboy boots and my tidy wadies
like I'm doing all right good.I like that. It inspires me.
(01:53):
Yeah, there's an image for allyou all all y'all got my cowboy boots
on. I'm saying, oh,y'all, one day in boot it's so
funny and you're ready to line oneday in boots. I'm ready to line
it. Yeah, it's the stockshow in Denver, now kidding. I
actually went to Massachusetts and I gotfucking cowboy boots. Lives in Denver seven
years. No cowboy Boots go toBoston one week, Cowboy boots. How
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does that happen? Which, again, you and I talk about this a
lot, being that you're from NewEngland and I've spent time in New England,
which is where we met. ButNew England is totally fucking redneck.
Yeah. Everyone everyone thinks that progressiveand all these university students walking around with
lantes, but it's freaking redneck.It's fireworks and Nascar man. Yeah,
who is year round work? Who'slike everybody outside of the city. It's
(02:36):
country music, It's it's flanneled,it's Timberland's year round in the summer,
shorts, Timberland's you know that kindof thing. Yeah, drinking beer like
King of the Hill outside drinking beersevery day. That was a trivia question
the other week. Last week therewas a King of the Hill question.
I did not know it. Ohgood. That's a good thing. When
you do one of those categories.It's not really the great, I'm learning
(03:00):
learning, So give you guys anupdate two on the kid Amazing podcast.
So check this out. The FAAdown flights, so everything got grounded until
nine, and then when they gotcaught up, my flight ended up getting
canceled. So I got a newone at six in the morning, which
means get there at four thirty,which means get up at like three to
thirty. So naturally, I metup with my brother and we just went
(03:23):
to Foxwoods Casino and partied all theway until we went to the airport.
Natural conclusion, Yeah, well mightas well just stay up and keep going.
Yes. So that turned out horriblybecause my flight got delayed. So
I was in there drunk, gettingsober with all these strangers in a packed
airport if pissed off people, andthen my flight leaves an hour and a
(03:46):
half later. I get on itgo to Philly. Missed my connecting flight,
so now I have to reroute,so I went to I went from
Providence to Philadelphia to Phoenix to Denver. I should have gotten a T shirt
from every single fucking city that Iwas in yesterday, sixteen hours and I
was drunk and sober, and Ihad been away since ten o'clock the day
before in the morning. So yeah, it sounds like a tour of the
(04:06):
great culinary cities of the United States. Oh it was. It was.
It was like Anthony Bourdain. Iate it all the finest airput establishments,
bus station, hose. This breakfastburrito in Phoenix is par excellent. Oh
my god. I had I hada case of do it there, Shadow
Cowboy, there we go because Ihad my boots on. Hey you're here
(04:28):
and you're here safe. So whathappened? So at Foxwoods? Foxwoods?
Yeah, so Foxwoods. I wasdoing karaoke at the Scorpion Bar. Just
smashed Purple Rain by the way,just so you know. And I was
about to go on and do gotyou where I want you buy the flies
another go too, and Stormy callsStormy. Stormy Daniels calls out of the
blue, Out of the blue.She's like, what are you doing.
(04:49):
I'm like, I'm about to sendkaraoke at a bar in Foxwoods. She's
like, I canna tell you whatshe said. But anyway, we started
talking and she's good to go forrecording the Kid Amazing podcast. He plays
the female lead DNA, So staytuned. Those episodes will be coming soon.
We got to record the whole seasonthen release it, so it's gonna
be a little while, but itis happening, guys. So I just
(05:12):
want you to know that anyway.And she's phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal in
it. A lot of innuendo,give her a lot of lines that are
sexual out. There's a lot ofoutuendo too, innuendo, outuendo that's coming.
Oh that's you like that one.It goes at uendo comes outdo something
for food. You can keep thatone, Thank you, buddy, you
(05:34):
can keep that one. But no, that was a that was a bolt
out of the blue call that wewere already rocking. But that's putting some
serious wind in the sales. Yeah, we're ready to go, and we're
recording episode three this weekend. YEP, very excited. Three of ten.
YEP. One is done, twois done. That's what three means.
(05:55):
So in the meantime, we're it'sgot a message on Tinder hold on oo,
okay, I'll go. I'll againthink the uh the listening audience,
because, um, while I'm alongtime friend of Greg, I'm also a
fan of the show and I've enjoyedlistening to I've listened to every episode of
Behind Bars. I particularly like theepisodes involving hot women. Yes, nothing
(06:17):
against the guys, but they boreme. No offense buck um, But
it's the women. Je. I'mjust hey, I'm being honest. If
I can't be honest on me,no, you gotta be honter points.
I was just saying, geez,I was being honest, yeah, or
or or countertangents counterpoints. Um.I'm not changing the name I like.
(06:43):
I just it's just hard for meto get female guests because of the situation,
Like you're coming over my place,we're getting sucked up really quick,
and then we're going into my closet, which is not a walk in closet,
and it's just an odd situation.So it's like, hey, you
want to come over and be alonewith me in my apartment. Other either
has to be on one side ofthe coin, it's complete trust and understanding
(07:03):
or UM. The other side ofthe coin is um. They have no
risk management mechanism in their brain.Yeah, it's yeah, thank god,
thank god for those This sounds fine. Yeah, have you thought this through?
That's fine? So you want meto come over each troops. You
go, okay, drink very quick, intense period. I've been go into
your closet with you alone in yourapartment with your lights. Yeah, yeah,
(07:26):
sounds good. Let's okay, let'swrong? Yes? Wrong? Whenever
are we one taking this? Whatare we doing? We're always on one
take all? Right, So thisis Counterpoints, Part two, volume into
issue two. Yeah, although wehave many issues, but this is issue
too. There have a lot ofissues. Um, where do you want
to ramble? I don't know.I just want to like that girl that
just messaged me on Yeah, I'vebeen doing this thing now, Like first
(07:48):
I was like swiping. Then I'mlike you start, you go like,
okay, do I want to datethat one? Like yeah? And then
like can I when I sleep withher? Would she sleep with me?
Let's find out? Okay, Andthen you don't match it like oh you
put me in the trash pile,you bitch. And then now I do
this thing like a lot of timesgirls will do this thing strategically where if
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they're not like their looks aren't therea strong suit, they'll take pictures with
their friends in their profile, right, and like you got to figure out
like which one they are as youswipe through. Can you have all of
them? Well? See, that'sthe thing. Now I'm looking at them,
I'm like, I don't like youor any of your friends. It's
likely don't even like the world thatyou hang on to anything in your life,
(08:31):
right, Okay, so you don'tswipe on those. I don't because
I'm I'm I'm I'm woefully unfamiliar withthe platforms. I don't swipe on girls
that have anything with them playing golf, those golf skirts and those shoes.
I don't like it. I don'tlike it. And horses if you're riding
horses, I don't like horse girls. Gotcha? Yeah, horse girls?
And now I got cowboy boots thatcould will get me near a horse,
(08:56):
you know hashtag Christopher Reef. Let'slet's be honest. Well, you don't
have to get on them. Yeah, I don't want to be here?
Ki shit? Okay? Um?Can I ask a personal course of course?
What we do here? Tell meabout the last person you swiped yes
on and what made you do it? Oh, this last person I swiped
(09:16):
yes on? She was hot andI read the bios. I would too,
I always read them. I liketo know, like what people are
putting out there for like their selfadvertising. And uh, she she had
bisexual Okay, so I was like, Okay, that's awesome. That means
like, you know, you know, so everything could be on the menu
and the implication other menues involved aswell, the implications there. Yeah,
(09:39):
and like she was hot, divorced, no kids, Okay, so I
was like, cool, that meansyou don't have to like date every two
weeks because she's got the kids oneweek. You know, you're right,
You're you're thinking logistics at this point. Yeah, which is great too.
I like those situations sometimes too,because like every other week is great.
Sometimes that's a senor to a goodrelationship is not really spending time with the
(10:00):
other person moderating it. That's howyou laugh, That's how you make it
last. Okay, yeah, Isee this. Yeah. And so did
she respond? Yeah, yeah,she message to be back. Okay,
she said. What does she sayin her bio? She said something about
let me find it. It wassomething about something makes her day, but
anal makes her weak. Oh wow, I wrote, I wrote, it's
(10:22):
bold. I wrote, that's hilarious. Steered into the skid, steered into
the skin. I didn't you eventry to Um, Now, okay,
that's cool, she messaged you.Yeah, now you swiped on her.
Yes, would you get a notificationif she rejected it or deleted it?
(10:43):
They don't do that. Just dothe positive reinforce. Okay. I don't
want to make you feel worse.I haven't used it, so I don't
know. Yeah, so, okay, you're only getting the positive reinforcement.
You could put it out there tolike six, you might get it back
from one or two. Dude,there's so many girls I've matched with that
I don't even message. So Iwas like, I was drunk when he
swiped on you. But you justlike that, takeaway that serotonin, that
dope boost. Okay, um,but yeah, I got like a bunch
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of likes and our people on thereto date? Are they on there to
hook up? Both? Okay?And this is tim Naomi. That's I'm
owed backwards. She's toxic. Lookat that. Okay, yeah, swiping
right on her? Who's that guy? I don't know. Listeners, if
you could see the imagery that Gregwas showing me, it was a fifty
seven year old man dressed up asa woman. It was a twenty three
(11:30):
year old chicken lingerie, not thatwe have any problems with either. No
Saturday nights get weird. What canwe say? It's only Friday, Friday
the thirteenth, Baby, we'll seewhat happens. Oh Friday. That that's
right. Yeah, so we coulddo like a we could do like a
fun fact Friday. Fun fact Friday. What kind of facts? Um?
(11:52):
That's a good like. I don'twant to turn it into a trivia game.
No, no, it's not trivia, but like, um, fun
fact Friday. Um um. I'venever dropped acid really nope. I just
did something like at a really inopportunetime the other day. What was I
doing? Oh? How was atwork? And uh my bar back was
(12:13):
like fucking just you know, outof steam. Man just chugging up the
hill, chug a chug a chuggon one coal? How how many hours
in? Oh? He just gotthere. Oh geez. I'm like,
dude, what's going on? He'slike, oh, man, I did
some assid I did some ll lastnight. I'm like, oh my god,
dude, you didn't sleep. No, I meant either, I didn't
(12:35):
do acid. Oh shit. Andthen I'm an idiot. I go you
got any He's like, yeah,you want something. I'm like, fuck,
And it was like a Thursday.So it's like a hit and miss
if it's gonna be busy, right, Okay, So it's there, My
god, it's like it's it callsme like the way the Wilderness called Daniel
(12:56):
Boone. Yeah, oh rag thesiren. The sirens are dude. So
I'm like, all right, soI take it. I put it on
my tongue and I just go towork. Fifteen minutes later at least these
girls show they said, hey,how are you? My Hi, how
are you? And they were alllike Christmas tree sparkly and and I'm like,
I gotta just remember they can't seewhat I see, right, so
(13:20):
my face must look normal. Imust convey normalcy. Yeah, so I
just pretended. I'm like why amI doing this? And then I and
like acid is a thing where likeit's all about your environment. It's all
about who you're hanging out with,like vibes energy, like positive vibes is
everything. And so here I amat work like that. I could have
a stranger come up and just bea dick and send me sideways. I
go on a bad trip, right, So I get to the point where
(13:43):
I'm like starting to get a littleoverwhelmed. I'm starting to trip, dick,
and like, oh god, Igot a lot of orders coming right
now. I just this whole groupjust walked in the door. How is
your how is the bar back doing? Oh? He was shit. I
was doing extra shit. No,but did he did he drop his Oh
yeah yeah yeah yeah. But hedidn't have a recovery level like he didn't.
He was already spent. Like It'salmost like lighting a bunch of fireworks
(14:05):
off. It was okay, youknow you can't you can't re level up.
Yeah, you can't just keep tripping, Okay, can I guess I
think in theory you could. Butlike he was working, he had been
up all night tripping hard, andthen he just took like one more hit.
It wasn't gonna do anything because healready had so much insists got it.
So it's I was going fresh.It's not even a maintenance hit.
I wasn't fresh, but I wasgoing and without having taken acid. Yes,
(14:28):
yeah, And it was dude,I was talking about just the girls.
I'm just remember it looked like Iwas looking at him through like one
of those prison glasses, like thosekaleidoscope things. I was like, holy
shit, don't portray you what youreyes are showing you right now. And
just I made them drinks and thenwe started talking and I was like I
was cheeseing man so hard. Mysmile like my had fish hooks on me.
(14:48):
Like the joke, do you doyou come away with the impression that
anyone knows when you're doing that?Oh, in your mind, everybody knows,
well beyond your own internal paranoia.Did you actually get the sense of
anybody sort of like did anybody thatkind of like wink at you and be
like I get it? Well?Does that? As? It's a tough
one, Like you can always tellwhen someone's drunk, you know when someone's
(15:09):
stronk, Yeah, you know whensomeone's stuped. Yeah, It's tough to
tell when someone's on shrooms or acidor blow unless you like the blow.
There's the telltale like the Jaws guygrinds his teeth and moves his jaw side
to side and does shut if he'sreally cranking it? Sure? Yeah,
no, no one, I'm sureno one that's listening likes having that guy
at the bar. No. Weused to have a guy. His name
(15:31):
was Josh Josh, and I usedto call him Jaws. Okay, grinding,
Can I get one? I'm like, yeah, here comes Jaws.
Josh, just gone. Jaws ishere. He's going on side to side
Jaws. I'm like, what areyou doing, dude? Though you're captain
obvious, can't fuck it now.I gotta lie to you every time you
ask me for one and say Idon't have it. Okay. So in
the acid shrooms blow world, Yeah, do you think there's sort of this
(15:54):
truce between barbarians and patrons? Likedo you think there's this sort of understand
like everybody's dealt with I mean,look, everyone and their mother is dealt
with annoying drunk people. Yeah,but do you think there's almost like a
truce of like, hey, you'rehaving a good time, keep it level.
Oh if somebody comes in on something, or if or if something,
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one of the staff is, oh, yeah, there's just this und you
gonna do your business, you know, I mean, because Molly's a tough
one to hide to Kenemine now isthe other one? People like, what's
that doing? He looks like asloth. Oh it slows you, okay,
slow down? The track gotch likethat okay, and like sometimes like
you know, this is one yearI work with Like, do you want
(16:36):
some k oh? I know I'mworking working. I know. It's like,
but you just took acid. Yeah, that's like a it's not really
a performance enhancer, but it's notgonna like slow. But what do you
think so being being a bartender foras long as you've been, what would
you say is the drug that moreoften than not produces positive outcomes for everyone
(16:56):
involved in a social setting? Oh, mushrooms. So mushrooms is just like
this universal. People are kind ofcool. It doesn't cause any problem.
Yeah, every was happy. You'renot forgetting shit, you're not clumsy,
You're not going to break glasses oranything. You're just happy. If you
eat too much, you get alittle sparkly, you know. But that's
like it's not like you're tripping dicklike on acid. Oh. So the
(17:17):
end of the story is, oh, yes, I started like it started
getting really fucking busy, okay,And then like another bartender came down from
upstairs because it wasn't busy up there, like, hey are you guys doing?
I'm like I would actually like togo. I should probably go.
I'll give you twenty bucks to coverthe rest of my shift because they were
the next person cut. Yeah,I could use the twenty I'm like fantastic
because you know, and I didn'tsay anything, but I put myself in
(17:37):
a position where I need to go. It could get away from me.
Yeah, so the smart move is, Yeah, what was not a good
call? It was taking acid ona Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday,
Tuesday. Yeah, on a Thursday. Are you saying that because it
just got a little too busy enoughto handle it. I was handling it,
but like, I just knew thatI was vulnerable in order away from
(17:59):
messing it up. I was vulnerablefrom bad energy coming in or something going
south. Okay, and then thatwould have messed me up. That's interesting,
Yeah, because I think like withwith shrooms and everything like that,
it doesn't it doesn't mute your desireto do anything else. Like say you're
with a group of friends and you'reown shrooms. Yep, you could sort
of be like do you want todo this? Sure? Do you want
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to go do karaoke? Sure?Do you want to dance? Sure?
Do you want to have a drink? Sure? Do you want to get
something to eat. It doesn't muteany of your other like when you're stone
you're stoned. Yeah, just apiece of meat that sits there. And
you're not interested in drinking, you'renot interested in really being social, right,
you're just sort of mailing it in. But with shrooms, it's kind
of like, well, what doyou want to do next? Yeah,
it's a little It's like it's likea couple espressos with some heavy weed.
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I don't know, man, it'sweird. It's just like it makes you.
It gives you like a body tickle. It makes you smile, like,
it makes you super happy. Youget see for me and a lot
of people get this. Get these. You get the yawns, and you
get the stretches. You startly goand like, well you're working stuff out
(19:10):
right. Yeah, but it's likeI can go at that point, I
can go right to sleep and havethe best dreams. I sleep on shrooms.
If I do a bunch of blow, i'll shrooms. And that can
like alcohol can mess up your sleep, I mean totally messes up your sleep.
Shrims, Yeah, it does.Alcohol is a primitive, stupid drug.
It's poison. I hate it somuch better. Stuff out there,
(19:33):
so to the you know, literallyhundreds and hundreds of people who have made
millions of dollars slinging drinks. We'renot saying you're wrong. We're just saying
everything should be on the menu.Yeah. Well yeah, like drinking at
work, it's just don't get hiringyour own supply. I mean, I
drink to cope at work, butI don't really go out to drink to
like enjoy it, like to goout and have fun. Like I'll have
(19:56):
some drinks and stuff, but Idon't go to a bar. Okay here,
like this is not really a funfact for Friday. But if they
had a mushroom bar, I wouldgo to that. Sorry, that's kind
of interesting. Yeah, and I'msure that's that's that's gonna be happening,
so that there's already a movement.You could sort of see it coming,
um because I think this is dispensaryin British Columbia right now. Interesting.
And they're doing all these studies forPTSD and everything like that. The psilocybin.
Oh, it's it's on the forefrontright now. Oh yeah, that's
(20:18):
very interesting. Yeah, that's thenext green rush. You know, I
started investing in the psilocybin construct whateverthat industry is going to look like.
I don't know. Yeah, butthere's teas and chocolates and all these shorts.
There's money to be made. It'sartisanal, it is. So what
is you what? It's kind oflike a fun not a fun fact,
(20:38):
but just like a what is yourfavorite? So? I know you don't
drink much, right, but whatwould be what would be the best drink
in the best scenario for you?Like you can be anywhere in the world,
doing anything, having anything served toyou. What would be like the
ideal drink? It all depends,man, It depends on where you are
and what's going on. Like likethe other night, I had like a
(21:00):
nice steak dinner, so I havea like just whiskey on the rocks.
Normally I'll do a Miller LIGHTE.Believe it or not, I have a
preference over Bud the light Coors likeMiller LIGHTE and a shot at tequila.
That's my move. Uh. IfI'm if I'm in the Tropics, I'm
in Mexico. Yeah, I'm abartender. I feel guilty about it,
but I guess what I want tofucking pedia Colada. I want to frozen
(21:21):
dacery. I want to do thatshit because you're in the setting. Yeah,
that's what That's what I was gettingat. It's like I just don't
have it to excess because I don'tlike the effects. I don't like the
high. No um, it's neverends well. People are like, how
do you just do blow without drinking? I'm because I just want to feel
it, like it cuts it,it numbs it, it dulls it,
and then you're not yeah getting thefull You're not Jaws. No, you're
(21:42):
not Jaws Jaws A but I likethat. Yeah. It's it's it's like
music. A drink can fit themood. Yeah, it fits the mood
in the setting. That's what it'sgot going with, or all the different
forms it takes, you know whatI mean. We'll just people have to
(22:03):
educate themselves with the different strains ofshrimps. Yeah. I like this chocolate.
Like they have the capsules which islike the powder. It's like a
stem caps like all ground up.But like you don't like smoothie, it's
like in a capsule. You couldput it in a smoothie. Yeah,
you could just find it up orjust take it. And I just fucking
eat it because it's all like growncontrolled. It's not in cowshit like in
(22:27):
the old days. It's like fuckinggrown in a clean place. And it's
like I just eat a stem becausepeople micro dose and I've attempted that.
M So I guess I'm macro doseaccording to what other people takes. But
that's like my dose. I takelike two stems and go to work or
something like that. Okay, havebest conversations, have the best time,
keep up, coworker, employee morale, Hey, what's up? I got?
(22:51):
I got seven different handshakes with allthe different bussers I have whatever,
you know, I mean, I'mlike fucking what's going on? Yeah,
well, it's like all these um, you know, all these old stimulants,
mushrooms, coca leaves. Like haveyou ever heard of beetlenut? No?
Um, beetlenut? Is this?You know? It's it's incredibly popular
(23:14):
through like the islands of Southeast Asia, like Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines,
where it's just this, it's thisred stained nut. Oh. I
have heard and it's like you sometimeshear the stories of like the taxis in
Southeast Asia have these streaks down thedoor people, because the taxi drivers just
(23:36):
sort of suck on beetlenut all day, just put it in their cheek and
it's just it's this appetite suppressant.It's a mild stimulant. It's a It
just keeps you going through. Youcan do your tasks with a little bit
more focus and a little bit moremotivation and putting your time and not think
to yourself, I gotta stop toeat or I gotta stopped. Yes,
(23:56):
it's like I can do my joborganic adderall is well. All these natural
coffee is a plant, you know, So like all these natural stimulants are
part of the global economy. Coffeeis just an enema. It's just a
hot enema. That's why I likeit, because innuendo comes out out nuendo.
(24:18):
Yeah, that's why I drink coffee. Yeah, nothing gets a moving
like coffee brought to you. Buycoffee. That's what ilse to be telling
people today. You told about theaward. Yeah, you told him about
kid amazing. Yep, we dida fun fact. You've never dropped acid.
We're gonna change that. Iowaska body. That's what we do up in
(24:38):
Boulder. That's a whole thing Yeah, that's a that's a that's a that's
a weekend commitment, right, yeah, okay, Yeah, I think I'm
almost I think I'm almost mildly readyfor that. All right, Yeah,
me too. I'll be ready tosay one. I'll be ready. Well,
it's it's interesting you mentioned that,because, um, I'm here in
(24:59):
Colorado with you for the for anextended duration. And some time back,
a friend of mine did my tarotand she laid the cards out in an
irregular pattern. It wasn't like shejust you know, like how you were
at Foxwoods, you know how likethey just a dealer can like just swipe
(25:21):
the cards like a rainbow and they'rejust in this pattern. Yeah. So
she laid the cards out, andmy vision of it was of a mountain
range. When she laid it out. You've never taken acid, no,
no, But the cards appeared toyou like a mountain cards on the table.
They appeared to me like a mountainrange. And so she offered me
(25:45):
the opportunity to pick one, andso I picked the one at the top
and she flipped it and it wasthe King of Swords. Oh yeah,
I've had that before. The Kingof Swords. And in the background of
the King of Swords was the topof a mountain. Wow, and so
(26:07):
beyond that pattern and then the cardand it was you know, she was
interpreting it as you know, takingup a leadership position, being your own
champion, things along those lines.Now that I interpret all the symbolism and
the the layout of it all,it was like I had to come here,
(26:30):
yeah, front Range being told powersound, mountains a power sound,
get to a safe place. Yesyou got Nora d So Yeah, Denver
Boulder, fucking great, you lovedit, or what I love Colorado to
pieces. But I'm just I'm I'mphysiologically resistant because I've lived for two plus
(26:56):
decades in southern California. Yeah,I mean, I don't have any fat
on me. I don't do wellin the cold. I can outlast anyone
in the summer, but um,I just the cold has been an adjustment.
Yeah, I mean, knowing Icame here in like late December and
the biggest annual whatever. I know. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying,
twenty five hours of the car people, twenty five hours in the car,
(27:17):
my head sat I exhausted all mypodcasts. Yeah, um, and
I listened to a lot of VanHalen Um. But you know, Colorado
is beautiful and the people here aregreat, and the mountains are utterly amazing
to look at every day and youcan see how like the mountains shape the
weather. Yeah, like the frontscome in and the mountains are like,
(27:37):
wait, go this way, andit's literally it's it's it's amazing. So
I am I am delighted to behere and we're recording. Yeah, so
we're getting work done all right.So um yeah, this was Counterpoints episode
two with Matt Um. Like Isaid, uh, let us know what
you think, what you like.What do you guys want to hear.
If you have any guests that you'dwant to hear more from from behind bars,
(28:00):
any stories that got cut short,any any particular people you found funny,
you found boring, I'd like toknow. Just email me at Cocktails
and Wasted Nights at Gmail. Letme know and we'll get you squared away
with all the listening orgasm stuff inyour whole And if you've been a listener
(28:22):
and haven't and want to tell yourstory, reach out to Greg. Yeah,
let's hear what you guys got.I can't be the one fucking up
all the time. Well, thisis good. Like you said, it
was casual Counterpoints Part two, it'sinformal. We don't have pants. Yeah
we mentioned kid amazing you thank everybodyfor the award, which is so cool.
(28:42):
Signal Awards, Listeners Choice, it'sso cool. Yeah, thanks again,
Barbarians and uh yeah, just emailme cocktails and wasted nights at Gmail.
Again. This is Counterpoints for free. We're gonna put it up on
Patreon. We're gonna have some guestsback. We're gonna talk about their interviews,
play some clips, and then figureout what the hell they were thinking
or that they weren't thinking, andwe'll take it from there. But I'd
(29:03):
love to hear some feedback on this, and I'm glad we had this talk.
I feel richer for the experience.I now returned you to your regularly
scheduled daily programming. Cheers.
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