June 13, 2025 • 38 mins
In this inspiring episode, Gill speaks with Noreen Remat, founder of the Life Givers Organization in Lahore, Pakistan. They explore Noreen’s mission to provide education for underprivileged children in her village, her powerful personal journey, and the global collaboration that made her dream of building a school possible.
Noreen opens up about the financial hardships she faced, leaving a difficult job, and persevering through repeated challenges to register her organization. With support from Aidan—who connected with her through the Global Collaboration network—Noreen has been able to continue her work and build a school that’s nearly complete.
Together, Gill and Noreen discuss the transformative power of education, the role of technology in connecting changemakers, and a unique model of giving where children learn to give back through love and kindness. This episode is a powerful reminder of what can happen when compassion, resilience, and global unity come together to uplift communities.
Listen now to hear how faith, determination, and the kindness of strangers are changing lives through education.
Noreen opens up about the financial hardships she faced, leaving a difficult job, and persevering through repeated challenges to register her organization. With support from Aidan—who connected with her through the Global Collaboration network—Noreen has been able to continue her work and build a school that’s nearly complete.
Together, Gill and Noreen discuss the transformative power of education, the role of technology in connecting changemakers, and a unique model of giving where children learn to give back through love and kindness. This episode is a powerful reminder of what can happen when compassion, resilience, and global unity come together to uplift communities.
Listen now to hear how faith, determination, and the kindness of strangers are changing lives through education.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to Being Human Hidden Depths with a
very special episode. My name is Jille Tiny. I'm the
founder of Collaboration Global and one of our members. Noauring
Remat has got some amazing stories to share with you.
And it's an interesting point because normally in Collaboration Global
or somebody will come to us as an entrepreneur. They
(00:24):
have a marketing business or office supplieres business, or you know,
and they're from around the world. We could have them anywhere,
but you came and connected to me, Gnauring with a mission,
very big mission, and a passion and a craving for
some support and help, and hopefully so far we've been
(00:45):
able to help a little bit along the way. So
I'm really interested to find out now about the person
behind the cause, because we know the cause and we'll
talk a little bit about the cause, but also we
want to know who you are. So welcome to the
podcast Gnawing Remat all the way from Lahore in Pakistan.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
And first of all, good afternoon, and so much for
Thank you so much for for inviting me. And describe
my mission, how I started this mission and how I
find you and how like we are doing right now,
like it's a very progressing story, like I find you.
My name is Noried and I'm from Lahore, Pakistan, and
(01:28):
I'm a founder of Life Keiple organization and I have
found you through global collaboration and it's a I think
it's a really really impressive story that like no one
was around me to find a person who can support
our mission. And where I live, it's it's a village,
(01:50):
and it's a like everywhere I see, I don't see
a good person who can help me or who can
find a good person like who can support our mission?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And I just do you throw Internet?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And then I talked to you and U you gave
me Aiden, and then me and Aiden started working. And
I think I think it's a I think I have
no words, Like I'm speechless, uh like when I shared
and within I think within a day, within a day.
I think it took me two days to talk to
(02:23):
it and and I just shared my mission with it
and and he said, like I shared with him my
story and he said okay, like he would like to
support us. And then he started giving us a uh
pronuncially supporting us for free books for for free food
(02:46):
and free uniform and everything like you have free books, food,
uniform and all the like material we use for as
a shelter.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
He started to support us and how and this is
how we started our school. And right now.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Like we are on this level that at this moment
we like we have been working for seven month almost.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Like in last November. Yeah, last November I started.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And right now we with the help of Aiden and
especially you. You saw the said and you are just
like you know you have like you you can see
now the fruit of your food of your like you
gave me it and the the you know the seed
you saw, you can see the fruit right now. And
(03:32):
right now we have a construction going on. And today
is a very special day because I'm sitting in my room.
By outside my room, there is like too many like
there's a many like people like labor who's working for construction,
and it's a noisy day. But yeah, but it's a
very special day because they are working for and it
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will take one week to get dry and then almost
all building will get complete and then we will are
gonna work for your meaning construction like electrical work and
some a century work with other like but the almost
building is done.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Wow, so that's a lot. That's a lot of conversation.
M hmm. Let me just start at the beginning. This
is the power of connection, for sure. This is a
beautiful example of us being connected. And it's interesting how
almost on a weekly monthly basis, I have people coming
(04:34):
to me saying they need financing for their project, and
I don't always have the right people that I can
share to them and help them support them. But when
you came to me and we had a conversation, it
was exactly the right time the universe had sent aiden
to me as well, so that when just by putting
you two together, you were able to sow that seat
and get some amazing results. But let's go back to
(04:56):
the beginning. Okay, let's go back to right to the
begin Tell me what life is like in your village
and why you actually started this project in the first place.
How tough is it in your village to survive and thrive,
and what made you the person that was gonna make
a difference.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, we are actually the life giver. Story is my
own life story.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So as a like, we are six sisters including me,
So I'm on fourth number.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So my other sisters. They have a very little education.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So my parents were like we were. We were not rich,
but we my parents like like we were. We were
living like a very normal life. And when I was
a little.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Child, my parents sent me uh in a Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It was like a shelter, and it was it was
a hostel, like we're the poor children like that. The
parents cannot afford they sent their children to that hostel.
It's a Catholic it's a Catholic Christian hostile. And I
completed my ten grade from that from that hostel. And
when I came home, uh when uh, but when I
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came home, and also when I have a summer vacations,
like every year we have a three months summer vacations.
I always say that children in my village they don't
have like education, they're just they're just spending time on streets.
And we in our street, in our in our village,
we are the parents like parents.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We don't have a like a good life, like very
low income professions in our village we have and they
they can they cannot find a good income for to
support their families. So we have like two or three schools,
but they are so expensive, like a normal child cannot
attend that school. So it's when I like and up
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this this thing like always hurt me that what I'm
having other other students, like other children they don't have,
so I should give them what I have. So when
I like when I completed my hostel like tenth Gate education,
I continued my education and it was in my it
was in my mind that I have to I have
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to work for these children.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So that they can they can have at least education.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
To change change their family life. Like I want to
bring generacial change because most people, most of the people
in our village, they don't have education. They hardly like,
they hardly bear like. They make money from low income professions.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So that's why.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So gradually, like I continued my study and continued my
job so that I can, I can afford my study.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Some some like my my my father in.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Pakistan, like females like can be thinking that oh they
can they can't do anything. They must need to sit
at home and cook food only for for for male.
So I don't like this kind of this kind of
a life. So yeah, so I can. I don't have
a brother, So my wish was that I have to
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do something different. I have to help burthers like I can.
When I continued my study with my job at the time,
came that in twenty twenty, I I COVID nineteen started
and I left my job. And being a female, it
(08:30):
was it wasn't easy. Like when I was also doing
a job. It wasn't easy for me because being a female,
sometimes I suffer harass man being a Christian or sometimes
you can say that being a female, and sometimes like
I don't have a like any convenience or like I
travel like you know, local and suffer a lot of
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like many you know, being a female from a like
kind of a harassment in a travel or on job.
So at least like at the time, like sometime I'm
tired to continue my job. So at least in twenty twenty,
I love the job and I ask God to like,
(09:21):
like handle all the things.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's an emotional thing to go through. Gnoring, don't yeah,
don't worry, But I know what it feels like when
God feels like it's the only option. You know, God,
you know I'm doing everything the right way. What can
I do? I need your help. I need you to
point me in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, because where I live, it's more almost like all
people are uneducated, so like professional like jobs we can
find in our area.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
For people who have education. So being a.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Female, it's like I have a hard time how who
is I can go with. I don't have a brother, bye, father, resorre.
He's not like like I don't. I don't have any
person who can go with me or find rove or something.
And then like I was just sleeping, and tomorrow my
mom I prayed, I prayed, and then early morning next
(10:20):
like I have a vision a person like I saw
in my dream and he was just saying that just
just do my work. And I heard that voice, and
tomorrow I shared with my mom and then she said, oh,
God wants you to do his work like serving others.
I said okay, and I then I invited children to
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come to me and get free education and what I can.
And then what I have some money, I shared with
the like I gave them food and what I can
I did like some medicine or books.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And the time came that when I.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Don't have money and many organizations, I asked them to
support us, but they said that you are not registered,
we cannot work with you. I said, okay, And then
my mom had a gold like she has, she had
an airing and we used that goal to get money
from the market and we got registered, and then we
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applied for Lifekeevers to get registered.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It took me three years, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I started in twenty twenty and then I got
registered in December twenty twenty two. It took yeah, it
took me a lot of time. And it was like
the time was really hard because all the money was
gone and no one was like supporting us, and me
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and my mother was the only one who were like
suffering a lot. And when we got registered, and I
stopped school because that time I had.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
No money to continue the school.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And one person in our village he was one of
my friends, so he started supporting me like ten thousand
per month.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He knows me. And then at least when Aiden.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Started supporting us that time, he said that he cannot
support me anymore. And it was like a medicle for me,
like it's a it's the greatest blessing that I met
you through internet. And then at the right time, at
the right time, God gave me Aiden. And then Aiden
said that okay, I will give you, I will, I
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will pay you for your sally and to run the
school so you can start your work.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And this is how like we we.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I me and Aiden started work and I'm so blessed
right now that we are able right now to start
at construction and within a two months, like construction will
get complete and people start like a proper school with
the whole building, and more and more sci are coming,
and I.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Like it's a I think.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I just want to change the life of children who
like if like if Norien can change the life of
her mom, her family and herself and how, and then
definitely she can change the life of others who are
living around around uh nouren. So yeah, so that's like
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in my reverie, some people are very good and some
are not. They're saying, oh, she she thinks, she thinks
a lot and she's doing like why she's helping others.
So I said, I'm want because this is a voice
of my heart, because I'm not like others who are
just thinking, oh, she don't she she doesn't have I
don't want to give give her. I just want to
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help others because educates and has the barber to dig
the life off whole family like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Me exactly exactly, except a lovely story from you know,
you saw it and you realized that you wanted to
do something about it. And you come from I didn't
realize this. You come from a family of girls, of
women who are looking after each other and supporting each
other in an environment where the males are naturally historically dominant.
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So you have to get permission to do different things.
And so all of a sudden, my world in the
western world, in the UK, I want something, I go
out and I kind of get it, and it's like
sometimes there's obstacles and you have to kind of but
nobody's telling me I'm not allowed to. Nobody's saying you
can't do that because you're a woman. I remember when
I was a child, my dad was a docker, so
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basically he was on the ships in the docks and
he was offloading all the goods that were coming in,
so he needed to be strong. And so I was
about six or seven and my mum said to me,
what do you want to do when you grow up?
And I said, I'm going to be a docer like
my dad, and she sent dockers aren't women. You can't
do that. And I remember at the age of six
turning around and going, well, I'll be the first one
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man and it's why can't you be doing exactly what
you want to do? And now you know, so many
years after in the Western world, we still have that
luxury of going, you want to do it, If you go,
and nine times out of ten there'll be men around
you to support you, but there will definitely be women
around you to support you. And you're kind of twenty
(15:37):
years thirty years behind us in that you are just
coming out of that phase and women are now going, huh,
so I'm going to do this now. So the women
of Pakistan are kind of coming together to make sure
they support each other. And ultimately, as we say in
Collaboration Global, it doesn't matter whether you're a man or woman,
gay or straight, black or white, Christian or Muslim or
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anything else in between. They're just labels that we put
on each other. We don't need the labels. If you
just take all the labels away and say you're a
human being first, it's like, okay, and you want to
do a good thing, brilliant, how can we help, what
can we do and we'll find a way to make
it happen. And I do think that there is a
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universal law, a wonderful being that looks after us and
kind of sees what's going on and guides us. And
the fact that you came to me at a point
when Aidan had come to me at the same point,
it was a perfect union. And at some point we
will have Aidan On doing a podcast as well. He's
sleeping at the moment because he's over in Brazil. How
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wonderful is that somebody in Brazil is helping somebody in
Pakistan because of somebody in the middle that's put the
two together. So an incredible story. Without the Internet, it
never happened, which is incredible. I'm curious now going back
even further, not just when the objects started of teaching
children in your village to give them an education, but
(17:04):
when you were a little girl at the age of
seven or eight, what was the sort of things that
you love to do? What made you happy when you
were a little girl?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay, can you can you repeat this question?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
When you were saying seven or eight years of age
and you were having fun and you were really really happy,
what were you doing, What did that look like? What
were the things that really made you happy when you
were little.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Ah, actually.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I don't like then I was in this age. Yeah,
I just love to like I just want to laugh,
and I did. Yeah, and I always loved to help others,
like when I was in horsteal w and I was
in semon and D seven and eight years so my
(17:56):
like I was so innocent, Like yeah, I was so innocent,
and I was like they were giving me a chance
to like look after other students, help their.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Help them in their study. I was like a very
like responsible person or very innocent. But sometimes I was
like if I'm laughing, so I love to laugh and
help brothers.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So when I was like I still remember, so definitely
if I if I'm still like if I were seven
and eight and definitely still I would love to make happy,
like I just want others to feel happy, and how
we can light their.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Borders so that like just just want to have a.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Fun with them, like, oh, how we can improve their
lives being being even being even a student, even a child,
or we can help others because if you if you
are learning something from from your child, like your childhood age,
so you're gonna do the same thing when you are
getting older.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yes, exactly, exactly not. The point of the question really
is you can see when people are seven or eight,
you can map almost where they're going to go and
what they're going to do. And what you just said
is perfect because you know the fact that you love
to love and I know you do because even when
tough times are tough and we've had conversations, there's always
a smile at some point that you go, oh, well,
you know, let's get on with that and it will
(19:19):
be okay, and you've got a real determination to go forward.
When was when was the seed? I know when you
said that your mum was the one that was pivotal
in you doing this. Was there a moment when your
mum said, you know, God's told me that you need
to be in service and that you need to help
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these children. Was there a moment when you thought, I
can't do this, it's too big, or I'm not the
right person, or I don't know enough. Were there times
when you doubted yourself and your ability.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Like when more and more already normally need to already
know my nature, and when when I shared with my
mom my dream and she told me that we don't
have enough money to support others.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I said, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We we can give all things free, even we can
even we cannot give them money, but definitely studies free,
like I can what I have, some we can give
a we care, we can buy books for them. And
then I started buying books board shares for them, and gradually,
like they started coming to me, and many people started,
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like people know me and my village, but they start
sending their children because they believe in.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Me, and we have a fun with them. But at
that time, and I shared with my mom.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
My mom said, oh we can we have only gold
to uh like to sale, and we don't have any
other thing to uh you know sale and get some
money and sport for children and get this school registered.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We got stuck at that time, but we took this
decis and to goal must be it should be go
like it should be like it will give us money
and then we will we will be able to do something.
And because all that, like my sally.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Was not enough for when I was doing job, my
sally wasn't enough to support my like like.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Like all the expense we have, like you know, bills
and food.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
So we we went to the market and but my
mom my mom. My mom said that we can we
can do that. So but she said, okay, God is
there who will provide everything.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
This is her her faith was so strong.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And we we both went to the market and we
sell and we like we use that goal for sailing
and get that money and pay to the governments to
get like all the like bear the expense and at
least at least at least like uh, it took me
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two years, but that time money was enough to pay
all the.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Expense to get registered.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And yeah that and we were like we don't have
a like good food, like enough food to eat.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We were just we don't have vegetable every day and.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Don't have a like we have a bread and we
don't we we don't eat like vegetable for like you
can say for until we have uh this registration certificate
and when when we I still remember the day, like.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
When when I got registered.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That day like like super amazing, and that day I
bought some vegetable and then like we have a we
have a good food and yeah, and then we started
like I think we started our like like a good
journey with the hope and like God is like really amazing,
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He like us like me and my mom, we always
have a dreams. If something like is going to happen
wrong with us about our work, he just gave us
some sign.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Before the night oh like yeah, the night before. And
if we have a good good.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
News about our work, he just show us some sign
that shows us that he's with us and something good
news is going to happen. So that's the blessing. Like
since like since we started our work, we have dreams.
We can know easily how like what tomorrow can happen and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's good or bad. Yeah, so this is this is
the goodest blessing.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean the comparison, it can't be avoided between
what you're going through and what business owners in the
UK and the Western world are going through because we
see hardship as not enough leads coming in, or not
marketing to the right market, or not getting the right
software that you want on your fancy schmancy laptop, or
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you know, not getting as much income in as you
would like. But the reality is there's still a roof
over our head and food in our belly, and we
take that for granted. We just you know, if we
haven't got it, we'll go to you know, get some
money from somewhere else, or will sell some more things,
or we'll go and get a short time job or whatever.
We never have to think about going hungry. I mean,
(24:52):
obviously there are some people in the country that are
homeless and are facing poverty, but on average, on the
people on LinkedIn and those kinds of softwares where we
actually met, they don't even consider that. And here is
you doing something for people in your village, for children
that you recognize as that could have been me helping
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them out when you barely have enough for yourself. To me,
that is faith personified. You are totally in faith with
God and looking to him for support. But also this
dream of yours is like it's too big for you
to ignore, and it's like it's part of who you
are now, it's part of what you do and how
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you move on. Do you think how do you think
people see you in the village. Do they still think
of you as like, oh, it's a little Nora in
that used to play, or do they see you as like, oh,
my goodness, look at what she's doing in the village.
She's amazing. How do you get any feedback from people
what they think are so my quality question is.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I have done my master in a human resource management.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yep. In my village, none of like.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Uh, people are not even educated, Like they don't even
get there, like you know metri grades first grade, second grade.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Some people some like a students style. Like I'm telling
you the schools.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
They like people who have enough money, they're just sending
their children to their But it's it's only like these schools,
like it's a I think it's five or six years
or maybe three years.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's a it's a it was bill.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But before this most like you can say, uh, ninety person, yeah,
ninety person.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
People in our village, they are not educated. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So when like when when I was doing my study,
many people like they were looking at me. Oh, she's
the they call my mom name or she's her daughter,
and she's doing study. Yeah, she's going city and she's
doing hard work. And they appreciate me. And yeah, so
when when I left the job, they knew me.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
They knew me that I'm gonna do something bigger. So yeah,
so they think that she has the power. I said, no,
I have not the power. I have only education, and.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Education is my power, and I can't I can bring
change in my marriage and you will see. And when
I started work, and some people like who are just thinking,
oh she's female, she can do anything. She's just thinking
she can't do anything because she's female.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I said, okay, just give me time and the time
will come. The time will come.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And actually, like last night, we have a like, we
have a very like we have a labor. Like many
people who are working for roof and they were looking
at oh they are making Oh they are making roof.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
They're almost like the building is almost done. They were like, oh,
she's doing like she's doing a lot, like like I
what they are thinking. It's they it's different. But what
I was thinking, I achieve my mission.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah yeah, well done. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So what about Norain in five years time? Where do
you see the school going? Where do you see you going?
Are you going to be prime minister of Pakistan? Where's
it going to take you?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I just I already definitely like if I get the chance,
so definitely I would love because I just want to
bring change in my community.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I don't I don't want people that, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Just waste your time for for like just watching television
or just watching phone, or spending time on like for
bad things or I don't want I just want people
to grow so that poverty can be removed from their life.
They have enough.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
They don't need to ask others Okay, can you give
me money?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
No, they have skills, they have education to change their
own life.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's a good ambition. Yeah. Where do you see the
school being in five years time?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Sorry, sad, Where do you see the school being? Do
you think it's going to grow bigger or do you
think it's going to stay as it is? Or what
do you think is going to happen in five years
for the school?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I think school is going to be fantastic because everyone
know me.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Everyone knows like my education, and they like, uh they
are Punjabi like they speak like h language that mostly
we use in a village, like very small language. They
don't even understand English. They don't even understand our national language.
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So the people who speak national language or international language, they.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Think, oh they know something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So uh when in five years I think I'm going
to have I'm going to have two I'm gonna I'm
just thinking I have I'm just I think I have
two more school.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Amazing? Isn't it that would be amazing, And I think
people are going to find out about you and are
going to be inspired by you, and hopefully there'll be
little nourines all over the country and further afield doing
exactly what you're doing in order to make that difference,
because you know, there is need everywhere, isn't Then there's
(30:30):
need for people to be educated, for people to come
together to find the talents and the skills that they've
got and unearthed those so that they can you know,
get a proper and getting that education helps them to
get those jobs, doesn't it in the future.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now you are also working with your school to pay
back Aiden what is being sent over, but not in
the way most people would expect. Can you explain what
your students do in order to pay Aiden's company back?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I think loves come back. So I have learned from
Itiden that.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
If you do something good for others so that good
things will come back to you. God God has like
you know, if you do if you love others, the
love will come back to you. If you do bad
things for others, so definitely bad things will.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Come to you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So if you are like if we are doing good
for good for people. So we God is there to
provide us the way. He is going to open us
a way to help us. You know, he's not going
to you know, give us like he's just opening the
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ways because we are helping others. So so the same
love is coming back. They're like the children. They're so special.
What I think, because this is the age of students.
Like the children, if we are telling them, Okay, this
is a good thing for you, you can do this. Okay,
they're gonna say, okay, we're gonna do this. If you're
gonna teach them, oh, this is a bad thing, they're
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gonna say, okay, this is a bad thing, we're gonna
do that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So this is the time you can make like good
things put in.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Their mind and like what you're gonna saw right now
in their minds, they will do when they when they go.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah for sure, for sure. And that's what I love.
He's named it. He's sent over the uniforms and you've
got Global Love Farm on there as a school, which
I think is absolutely beautiful and it is quite literally
their job is to send love to the people that
are supporting them through the Aiden's Company, which is the
(33:00):
world's greatest experiment, and we're experimenting on just how powerful
love can be. Now, as a Christian, we know that
love is the thing that connects all of us and
it's the one thing that we all kind of understand
and that what goes around comes around. But to actually
do it as an experiment in this way and to
show the children demonstrating sending love, whether it be through prayer,
(33:24):
whether it be through meditation or just happy thoughts, they
are sending that. So they have a job to do.
That's very important as well. And when we get Aidan
on the next podcast, we'll be sharing that how he
came across this idea of an experiment to see how
it works and to see how much we can transform
our world. Because normally a charity that wants to start
(33:48):
a school or eradicate poverty or feed the homeless or whatever,
they say, can we have some money, please? Can we
have some money?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Please?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Can here have some money please, and good kind people
like ours us would go, yes, there we go, there's
some money. There's some money. There's some money, and it's
one way system whereby the people that are receiving it
are great for but also beholden which means they they
feel impotent to do anything in exchange. They're just receiving.
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So as soon as you give them the potential to
actually be proactive in doing something that will actually make
a difference to the other person, even if they don't
have a penny. It's not about the money. The transaction
is about the love. So you've been gifted a transaction
of money, but it's been gifted with a spect from
a space of love, and they can give love back.
(34:39):
And I think that is a very powerful thing that's happened.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, perfect, So right now, I just I would like
to share that right now.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Like many people while working off so the I mean
the or I mean and you know what they are saying,
Oh and nourri in you either you are a big
like you are being blat things because because of nouren
we have like we have like many people like you know,
when we're gonna pay them for construction, definitely, they're gonna
have food, you know, so they are earning. It's like
(35:10):
it's a we are giving them job. You know, it's
many people are eating from that. You know, it's a transaction,
it's it's a it's love coming back.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, there's so many parts too, it isn't it's
not just about the students, it's all the Yeah yes,
and you will enrich your whole village as a result.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, yes, there's the whole people who are working here,
they're all from my village. And even the thing, Oh,
she's like she's not like she's only like, you know,
thirty or thirty five something like I don't even know
about my age when because my parents were poor, like
you know, normal family, and they don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
My my age.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So that's why in a culture it's normal. Like in
your culture, like students know, like you don't know what's
the age. But in our part, students they don't even
know what's the age because parents are unadjucated. They sometimes
they don't have money to go and get there a
little both registration or something, and it's it's the same
happened with me. So many people say, oh, she's not married,
(36:08):
and she's like in this she's doing a lot of
amazing work and she's giving jobs to many people and
it's a free school.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
People like theen the thing. They say, oh, it's like
she's doing amazing, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Awesome, Like we can if she's female, and she's doing
I'm working more than me it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And it's not unexpected.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, listen, I think for now this
is an ongoing story. I would love to continue this conversation,
and I'm sure in a few months time we will
have a second podcast to see how it's finished, because
you're very close to the end now. You reckon a
month or six weeks ago, find out exactly how we
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can help you and support you going forward after that
as well. So I'm not sure if we've still got
the internet connection, but thank you Nora In so much
for the conversation we've had today. You have inspired me
and it's so wonderful that we have this, this experiment
going on. That is something that is your mission, your passion,
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and you are driven and I'm so grateful to have
you in our community. But also I'm so excited by
what you're doing, and I know, without a shadow of
a doubt that you will succeed and people will know
your name because of what you do and what you're creating.
So thank you so much for being part of the community.
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And yes, we have lost the link, so Noreen had
to go, but thank you if anybody would like to
meet Nouren, she has more of a better Internet access
most days. You can meet her at the Collaboration Global
session and that is the second Thursday at eight thirty
UK time in the morning or the last Tuesday, which
is three in the afternoon UK time, and we would
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love to have you join us. You just have to
go to Collaboration Global dot org and you can book
in there and register. It's all online, So wherever you
are in the world, come and meet Noreen and Aidan
and all the other wonderful people who are in business,
who are entrepreneurs and who are up to some good
I'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Thank you.
Hello, and welcome to Being Human Hidden Depths with a
very special episode. My name is Jille Tiny. I'm the
founder of Collaboration Global and one of our members. Noauring
Remat has got some amazing stories to share with you.
And it's an interesting point because normally in Collaboration Global
or somebody will come to us as an entrepreneur. They
(00:24):
have a marketing business or office supplieres business, or you know,
and they're from around the world. We could have them anywhere,
but you came and connected to me, Gnauring with a mission,
very big mission, and a passion and a craving for
some support and help, and hopefully so far we've been
(00:45):
able to help a little bit along the way. So
I'm really interested to find out now about the person
behind the cause, because we know the cause and we'll
talk a little bit about the cause, but also we
want to know who you are. So welcome to the
podcast Gnawing Remat all the way from Lahore in Pakistan.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
And first of all, good afternoon, and so much for
Thank you so much for for inviting me. And describe
my mission, how I started this mission and how I
find you and how like we are doing right now,
like it's a very progressing story, like I find you.
My name is Noried and I'm from Lahore, Pakistan, and
(01:28):
I'm a founder of Life Keiple organization and I have
found you through global collaboration and it's a I think
it's a really really impressive story that like no one
was around me to find a person who can support
our mission. And where I live, it's it's a village,
(01:50):
and it's a like everywhere I see, I don't see
a good person who can help me or who can
find a good person like who can support our mission?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And I just do you throw Internet?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And then I talked to you and U you gave
me Aiden, and then me and Aiden started working. And
I think I think it's a I think I have
no words, Like I'm speechless, uh like when I shared
and within I think within a day, within a day.
I think it took me two days to talk to
(02:23):
it and and I just shared my mission with it
and and he said, like I shared with him my
story and he said okay, like he would like to
support us. And then he started giving us a uh
pronuncially supporting us for free books for for free food
(02:46):
and free uniform and everything like you have free books, food,
uniform and all the like material we use for as
a shelter.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
He started to support us and how and this is
how we started our school. And right now.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Like we are on this level that at this moment
we like we have been working for seven month almost.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Like in last November. Yeah, last November I started.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And right now we with the help of Aiden and
especially you. You saw the said and you are just
like you know you have like you you can see
now the fruit of your food of your like you
gave me it and the the you know the seed
you saw, you can see the fruit right now. And
(03:32):
right now we have a construction going on. And today
is a very special day because I'm sitting in my room.
By outside my room, there is like too many like
there's a many like people like labor who's working for construction,
and it's a noisy day. But yeah, but it's a
very special day because they are working for and it
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will take one week to get dry and then almost
all building will get complete and then we will are
gonna work for your meaning construction like electrical work and
some a century work with other like but the almost
building is done.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Wow, so that's a lot. That's a lot of conversation.
M hmm. Let me just start at the beginning. This
is the power of connection, for sure. This is a
beautiful example of us being connected. And it's interesting how
almost on a weekly monthly basis, I have people coming
(04:34):
to me saying they need financing for their project, and
I don't always have the right people that I can
share to them and help them support them. But when
you came to me and we had a conversation, it
was exactly the right time the universe had sent aiden
to me as well, so that when just by putting
you two together, you were able to sow that seat
and get some amazing results. But let's go back to
(04:56):
the beginning. Okay, let's go back to right to the
begin Tell me what life is like in your village
and why you actually started this project in the first place.
How tough is it in your village to survive and thrive,
and what made you the person that was gonna make
a difference.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, we are actually the life giver. Story is my
own life story.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So as a like, we are six sisters including me,
So I'm on fourth number.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So my other sisters. They have a very little education.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So my parents were like we were. We were not rich,
but we my parents like like we were. We were
living like a very normal life. And when I was
a little.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Child, my parents sent me uh in a Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It was like a shelter, and it was it was
a hostel, like we're the poor children like that. The
parents cannot afford they sent their children to that hostel.
It's a Catholic it's a Catholic Christian hostile. And I
completed my ten grade from that from that hostel. And
when I came home, uh when uh, but when I
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came home, and also when I have a summer vacations,
like every year we have a three months summer vacations.
I always say that children in my village they don't
have like education, they're just they're just spending time on streets.
And we in our street, in our in our village,
we are the parents like parents.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We don't have a like a good life, like very
low income professions in our village we have and they
they can they cannot find a good income for to
support their families. So we have like two or three schools,
but they are so expensive, like a normal child cannot
attend that school. So it's when I like and up
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this this thing like always hurt me that what I'm
having other other students, like other children they don't have,
so I should give them what I have. So when
I like when I completed my hostel like tenth Gate education,
I continued my education and it was in my it
was in my mind that I have to I have
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to work for these children.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So that they can they can have at least education.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
To change change their family life. Like I want to
bring generacial change because most people, most of the people
in our village, they don't have education. They hardly like,
they hardly bear like. They make money from low income professions.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So that's why.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So gradually, like I continued my study and continued my
job so that I can, I can afford my study.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Some some like my my my father in.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Pakistan, like females like can be thinking that oh they
can they can't do anything. They must need to sit
at home and cook food only for for for male.
So I don't like this kind of this kind of
a life. So yeah, so I can. I don't have
a brother, So my wish was that I have to
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do something different. I have to help burthers like I can.
When I continued my study with my job at the time,
came that in twenty twenty, I I COVID nineteen started
and I left my job. And being a female, it
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was it wasn't easy. Like when I was also doing
a job. It wasn't easy for me because being a female,
sometimes I suffer harass man being a Christian or sometimes
you can say that being a female, and sometimes like
I don't have a like any convenience or like I
travel like you know, local and suffer a lot of
(08:52):
like many you know, being a female from a like
kind of a harassment in a travel or on job.
So at least like at the time, like sometime I'm
tired to continue my job. So at least in twenty twenty,
I love the job and I ask God to like,
(09:21):
like handle all the things.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's an emotional thing to go through. Gnoring, don't yeah,
don't worry, But I know what it feels like when
God feels like it's the only option. You know, God,
you know I'm doing everything the right way. What can
I do? I need your help. I need you to
point me in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, because where I live, it's more almost like all
people are uneducated, so like professional like jobs we can
find in our area.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
For people who have education. So being a.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Female, it's like I have a hard time how who
is I can go with. I don't have a brother, bye, father, resorre.
He's not like like I don't. I don't have any
person who can go with me or find rove or something.
And then like I was just sleeping, and tomorrow my
mom I prayed, I prayed, and then early morning next
(10:20):
like I have a vision a person like I saw
in my dream and he was just saying that just
just do my work. And I heard that voice, and
tomorrow I shared with my mom and then she said, oh,
God wants you to do his work like serving others.
I said okay, and I then I invited children to
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come to me and get free education and what I can.
And then what I have some money, I shared with
the like I gave them food and what I can
I did like some medicine or books.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And the time came that when I.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Don't have money and many organizations, I asked them to
support us, but they said that you are not registered,
we cannot work with you. I said, okay, And then
my mom had a gold like she has, she had
an airing and we used that goal to get money
from the market and we got registered, and then we
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applied for Lifekeevers to get registered.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It took me three years, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I started in twenty twenty and then I got
registered in December twenty twenty two. It took yeah, it
took me a lot of time. And it was like
the time was really hard because all the money was
gone and no one was like supporting us, and me
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and my mother was the only one who were like
suffering a lot. And when we got registered, and I
stopped school because that time I had.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
No money to continue the school.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And one person in our village he was one of
my friends, so he started supporting me like ten thousand
per month.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He knows me. And then at least when Aiden.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Started supporting us that time, he said that he cannot
support me anymore. And it was like a medicle for me,
like it's a it's the greatest blessing that I met
you through internet. And then at the right time, at
the right time, God gave me Aiden. And then Aiden
said that okay, I will give you, I will, I
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will pay you for your sally and to run the
school so you can start your work.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And this is how like we we.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I me and Aiden started work and I'm so blessed
right now that we are able right now to start
at construction and within a two months, like construction will
get complete and people start like a proper school with
the whole building, and more and more sci are coming,
and I.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Like it's a I think.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I just want to change the life of children who
like if like if Norien can change the life of
her mom, her family and herself and how, and then
definitely she can change the life of others who are
living around around uh nouren. So yeah, so that's like
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in my reverie, some people are very good and some
are not. They're saying, oh, she she thinks, she thinks
a lot and she's doing like why she's helping others.
So I said, I'm want because this is a voice
of my heart, because I'm not like others who are
just thinking, oh, she don't she she doesn't have I
don't want to give give her. I just want to
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help others because educates and has the barber to dig
the life off whole family like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Me exactly exactly, except a lovely story from you know,
you saw it and you realized that you wanted to
do something about it. And you come from I didn't
realize this. You come from a family of girls, of
women who are looking after each other and supporting each
other in an environment where the males are naturally historically dominant.
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So you have to get permission to do different things.
And so all of a sudden, my world in the
western world, in the UK, I want something, I go
out and I kind of get it, and it's like
sometimes there's obstacles and you have to kind of but
nobody's telling me I'm not allowed to. Nobody's saying you
can't do that because you're a woman. I remember when
I was a child, my dad was a docker, so
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basically he was on the ships in the docks and
he was offloading all the goods that were coming in,
so he needed to be strong. And so I was
about six or seven and my mum said to me,
what do you want to do when you grow up?
And I said, I'm going to be a docer like
my dad, and she sent dockers aren't women. You can't
do that. And I remember at the age of six
turning around and going, well, I'll be the first one
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man and it's why can't you be doing exactly what
you want to do? And now you know, so many
years after in the Western world, we still have that
luxury of going, you want to do it, If you go,
and nine times out of ten there'll be men around
you to support you, but there will definitely be women
around you to support you. And you're kind of twenty
(15:37):
years thirty years behind us in that you are just
coming out of that phase and women are now going, huh,
so I'm going to do this now. So the women
of Pakistan are kind of coming together to make sure
they support each other. And ultimately, as we say in
Collaboration Global, it doesn't matter whether you're a man or woman,
gay or straight, black or white, Christian or Muslim or
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anything else in between. They're just labels that we put
on each other. We don't need the labels. If you
just take all the labels away and say you're a
human being first, it's like, okay, and you want to
do a good thing, brilliant, how can we help, what
can we do and we'll find a way to make
it happen. And I do think that there is a
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universal law, a wonderful being that looks after us and
kind of sees what's going on and guides us. And
the fact that you came to me at a point
when Aidan had come to me at the same point,
it was a perfect union. And at some point we
will have Aidan On doing a podcast as well. He's
sleeping at the moment because he's over in Brazil. How
(16:42):
wonderful is that somebody in Brazil is helping somebody in
Pakistan because of somebody in the middle that's put the
two together. So an incredible story. Without the Internet, it
never happened, which is incredible. I'm curious now going back
even further, not just when the objects started of teaching
children in your village to give them an education, but
(17:04):
when you were a little girl at the age of
seven or eight, what was the sort of things that
you love to do? What made you happy when you
were a little girl?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay, can you can you repeat this question?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
When you were saying seven or eight years of age
and you were having fun and you were really really happy,
what were you doing, What did that look like? What
were the things that really made you happy when you
were little.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Ah, actually.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I don't like then I was in this age. Yeah,
I just love to like I just want to laugh,
and I did. Yeah, and I always loved to help others,
like when I was in horsteal w and I was
in semon and D seven and eight years so my
(17:56):
like I was so innocent, Like yeah, I was so innocent,
and I was like they were giving me a chance
to like look after other students, help their.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Help them in their study. I was like a very
like responsible person or very innocent. But sometimes I was
like if I'm laughing, so I love to laugh and
help brothers.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So when I was like I still remember, so definitely
if I if I'm still like if I were seven
and eight and definitely still I would love to make happy,
like I just want others to feel happy, and how
we can light their.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Borders so that like just just want to have a.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Fun with them, like, oh, how we can improve their
lives being being even being even a student, even a child,
or we can help others because if you if you
are learning something from from your child, like your childhood age,
so you're gonna do the same thing when you are
getting older.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yes, exactly, exactly not. The point of the question really
is you can see when people are seven or eight,
you can map almost where they're going to go and
what they're going to do. And what you just said
is perfect because you know the fact that you love
to love and I know you do because even when
tough times are tough and we've had conversations, there's always
a smile at some point that you go, oh, well,
you know, let's get on with that and it will
(19:19):
be okay, and you've got a real determination to go forward.
When was when was the seed? I know when you
said that your mum was the one that was pivotal
in you doing this. Was there a moment when your
mum said, you know, God's told me that you need
to be in service and that you need to help
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these children. Was there a moment when you thought, I
can't do this, it's too big, or I'm not the
right person, or I don't know enough. Were there times
when you doubted yourself and your ability.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Like when more and more already normally need to already
know my nature, and when when I shared with my
mom my dream and she told me that we don't
have enough money to support others.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I said, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We we can give all things free, even we can
even we cannot give them money, but definitely studies free,
like I can what I have, some we can give
a we care, we can buy books for them. And
then I started buying books board shares for them, and gradually,
like they started coming to me, and many people started,
(20:39):
like people know me and my village, but they start
sending their children because they believe in.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Me, and we have a fun with them. But at
that time, and I shared with my mom.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
My mom said, oh we can we have only gold
to uh like to sale, and we don't have any
other thing to uh you know sale and get some
money and sport for children and get this school registered.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We got stuck at that time, but we took this
decis and to goal must be it should be go
like it should be like it will give us money
and then we will we will be able to do something.
And because all that, like my sally.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Was not enough for when I was doing job, my
sally wasn't enough to support my like like.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Like all the expense we have, like you know, bills
and food.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
So we we went to the market and but my
mom my mom. My mom said that we can we
can do that. So but she said, okay, God is
there who will provide everything.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
This is her her faith was so strong.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And we we both went to the market and we
sell and we like we use that goal for sailing
and get that money and pay to the governments to
get like all the like bear the expense and at
least at least at least like uh, it took me
(22:13):
two years, but that time money was enough to pay
all the.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Expense to get registered.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And yeah that and we were like we don't have
a like good food, like enough food to eat.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We were just we don't have vegetable every day and.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Don't have a like we have a bread and we
don't we we don't eat like vegetable for like you
can say for until we have uh this registration certificate
and when when we I still remember the day, like.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
When when I got registered.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That day like like super amazing, and that day I
bought some vegetable and then like we have a we
have a good food and yeah, and then we started
like I think we started our like like a good
journey with the hope and like God is like really amazing,
(23:14):
He like us like me and my mom, we always
have a dreams. If something like is going to happen
wrong with us about our work, he just gave us
some sign.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Before the night oh like yeah, the night before. And
if we have a good good.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
News about our work, he just show us some sign
that shows us that he's with us and something good
news is going to happen. So that's the blessing. Like
since like since we started our work, we have dreams.
We can know easily how like what tomorrow can happen and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's good or bad. Yeah, so this is this is
the goodest blessing.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean the comparison, it can't be avoided between
what you're going through and what business owners in the
UK and the Western world are going through because we
see hardship as not enough leads coming in, or not
marketing to the right market, or not getting the right
software that you want on your fancy schmancy laptop, or
(24:29):
you know, not getting as much income in as you
would like. But the reality is there's still a roof
over our head and food in our belly, and we
take that for granted. We just you know, if we
haven't got it, we'll go to you know, get some
money from somewhere else, or will sell some more things,
or we'll go and get a short time job or whatever.
We never have to think about going hungry. I mean,
(24:52):
obviously there are some people in the country that are
homeless and are facing poverty, but on average, on the
people on LinkedIn and those kinds of softwares where we
actually met, they don't even consider that. And here is
you doing something for people in your village, for children
that you recognize as that could have been me helping
(25:14):
them out when you barely have enough for yourself. To me,
that is faith personified. You are totally in faith with
God and looking to him for support. But also this
dream of yours is like it's too big for you
to ignore, and it's like it's part of who you
are now, it's part of what you do and how
(25:36):
you move on. Do you think how do you think
people see you in the village. Do they still think
of you as like, oh, it's a little Nora in
that used to play, or do they see you as like, oh,
my goodness, look at what she's doing in the village.
She's amazing. How do you get any feedback from people
what they think are so my quality question is.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I have done my master in a human resource management.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yep. In my village, none of like.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Uh, people are not even educated, Like they don't even
get there, like you know metri grades first grade, second grade.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Some people some like a students style. Like I'm telling
you the schools.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
They like people who have enough money, they're just sending
their children to their But it's it's only like these schools,
like it's a I think it's five or six years
or maybe three years.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's a it's a it was bill.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But before this most like you can say, uh, ninety person, yeah,
ninety person.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
People in our village, they are not educated. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So when like when when I was doing my study,
many people like they were looking at me. Oh, she's
the they call my mom name or she's her daughter,
and she's doing study. Yeah, she's going city and she's
doing hard work. And they appreciate me. And yeah, so
when when I left the job, they knew me.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
They knew me that I'm gonna do something bigger. So yeah,
so they think that she has the power. I said, no,
I have not the power. I have only education, and.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Education is my power, and I can't I can bring
change in my marriage and you will see. And when
I started work, and some people like who are just thinking,
oh she's female, she can do anything. She's just thinking
she can't do anything because she's female.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I said, okay, just give me time and the time
will come. The time will come.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And actually, like last night, we have a like, we
have a very like we have a labor. Like many
people who are working for roof and they were looking
at oh they are making Oh they are making roof.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
They're almost like the building is almost done. They were like, oh,
she's doing like she's doing a lot, like like I
what they are thinking. It's they it's different. But what
I was thinking, I achieve my mission.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah yeah, well done. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So what about Norain in five years time? Where do
you see the school going? Where do you see you going?
Are you going to be prime minister of Pakistan? Where's
it going to take you?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I just I already definitely like if I get the chance,
so definitely I would love because I just want to
bring change in my community.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I don't I don't want people that, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Just waste your time for for like just watching television
or just watching phone, or spending time on like for
bad things or I don't want I just want people
to grow so that poverty can be removed from their life.
They have enough.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
They don't need to ask others Okay, can you give
me money?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
No, they have skills, they have education to change their
own life.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's a good ambition. Yeah. Where do you see the
school being in five years time?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Sorry, sad, Where do you see the school being? Do
you think it's going to grow bigger or do you
think it's going to stay as it is? Or what
do you think is going to happen in five years
for the school?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I think school is going to be fantastic because everyone
know me.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Everyone knows like my education, and they like, uh they
are Punjabi like they speak like h language that mostly
we use in a village, like very small language. They
don't even understand English. They don't even understand our national language.
(29:44):
So the people who speak national language or international language, they.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Think, oh they know something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So uh when in five years I think I'm going
to have I'm going to have two I'm gonna I'm
just thinking I have I'm just I think I have
two more school.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Amazing? Isn't it that would be amazing, And I think
people are going to find out about you and are
going to be inspired by you, and hopefully there'll be
little nourines all over the country and further afield doing
exactly what you're doing in order to make that difference,
because you know, there is need everywhere, isn't Then there's
(30:30):
need for people to be educated, for people to come
together to find the talents and the skills that they've
got and unearthed those so that they can you know,
get a proper and getting that education helps them to
get those jobs, doesn't it in the future.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now you are also working with your school to pay
back Aiden what is being sent over, but not in
the way most people would expect. Can you explain what
your students do in order to pay Aiden's company back?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I think loves come back. So I have learned from
Itiden that.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
If you do something good for others so that good
things will come back to you. God God has like
you know, if you do if you love others, the
love will come back to you. If you do bad
things for others, so definitely bad things will.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Come to you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So if you are like if we are doing good
for good for people. So we God is there to
provide us the way. He is going to open us
a way to help us. You know, he's not going
to you know, give us like he's just opening the
(31:59):
ways because we are helping others. So so the same
love is coming back. They're like the children. They're so special.
What I think, because this is the age of students.
Like the children, if we are telling them, Okay, this
is a good thing for you, you can do this. Okay,
they're gonna say, okay, we're gonna do this. If you're
gonna teach them, oh, this is a bad thing, they're
(32:20):
gonna say, okay, this is a bad thing, we're gonna
do that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So this is the time you can make like good
things put in.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Their mind and like what you're gonna saw right now
in their minds, they will do when they when they go.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah for sure, for sure. And that's what I love.
He's named it. He's sent over the uniforms and you've
got Global Love Farm on there as a school, which
I think is absolutely beautiful and it is quite literally
their job is to send love to the people that
are supporting them through the Aiden's Company, which is the
(33:00):
world's greatest experiment, and we're experimenting on just how powerful
love can be. Now, as a Christian, we know that
love is the thing that connects all of us and
it's the one thing that we all kind of understand
and that what goes around comes around. But to actually
do it as an experiment in this way and to
show the children demonstrating sending love, whether it be through prayer,
(33:24):
whether it be through meditation or just happy thoughts, they
are sending that. So they have a job to do.
That's very important as well. And when we get Aidan
on the next podcast, we'll be sharing that how he
came across this idea of an experiment to see how
it works and to see how much we can transform
our world. Because normally a charity that wants to start
(33:48):
a school or eradicate poverty or feed the homeless or whatever,
they say, can we have some money, please? Can we
have some money?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Please?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Can here have some money please, and good kind people
like ours us would go, yes, there we go, there's
some money. There's some money. There's some money, and it's
one way system whereby the people that are receiving it
are great for but also beholden which means they they
feel impotent to do anything in exchange. They're just receiving.
(34:17):
So as soon as you give them the potential to
actually be proactive in doing something that will actually make
a difference to the other person, even if they don't
have a penny. It's not about the money. The transaction
is about the love. So you've been gifted a transaction
of money, but it's been gifted with a spect from
a space of love, and they can give love back.
(34:39):
And I think that is a very powerful thing that's happened.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, perfect, So right now, I just I would like
to share that right now.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Like many people while working off so the I mean
the or I mean and you know what they are saying,
Oh and nourri in you either you are a big
like you are being blat things because because of nouren
we have like we have like many people like you know,
when we're gonna pay them for construction, definitely, they're gonna
have food, you know, so they are earning. It's like
(35:10):
it's a we are giving them job. You know, it's
many people are eating from that. You know, it's a transaction,
it's it's a it's love coming back.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, there's so many parts too, it isn't it's
not just about the students, it's all the Yeah yes,
and you will enrich your whole village as a result.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, yes, there's the whole people who are working here,
they're all from my village. And even the thing, Oh,
she's like she's not like she's only like, you know,
thirty or thirty five something like I don't even know
about my age when because my parents were poor, like
you know, normal family, and they don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
My my age.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So that's why in a culture it's normal. Like in
your culture, like students know, like you don't know what's
the age. But in our part, students they don't even
know what's the age because parents are unadjucated. They sometimes
they don't have money to go and get there a
little both registration or something, and it's it's the same
happened with me. So many people say, oh, she's not married,
(36:08):
and she's like in this she's doing a lot of
amazing work and she's giving jobs to many people and
it's a free school.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
People like theen the thing. They say, oh, it's like
she's doing amazing, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Awesome, Like we can if she's female, and she's doing
I'm working more than me it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And it's not unexpected.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, listen, I think for now this
is an ongoing story. I would love to continue this conversation,
and I'm sure in a few months time we will
have a second podcast to see how it's finished, because
you're very close to the end now. You reckon a
month or six weeks ago, find out exactly how we
(36:54):
can help you and support you going forward after that
as well. So I'm not sure if we've still got
the internet connection, but thank you Nora In so much
for the conversation we've had today. You have inspired me
and it's so wonderful that we have this, this experiment
going on. That is something that is your mission, your passion,
(37:15):
and you are driven and I'm so grateful to have
you in our community. But also I'm so excited by
what you're doing, and I know, without a shadow of
a doubt that you will succeed and people will know
your name because of what you do and what you're creating.
So thank you so much for being part of the community.
(37:40):
And yes, we have lost the link, so Noreen had
to go, but thank you if anybody would like to
meet Nouren, she has more of a better Internet access
most days. You can meet her at the Collaboration Global
session and that is the second Thursday at eight thirty
UK time in the morning or the last Tuesday, which
is three in the afternoon UK time, and we would
(38:03):
love to have you join us. You just have to
go to Collaboration Global dot org and you can book
in there and register. It's all online, So wherever you
are in the world, come and meet Noreen and Aidan
and all the other wonderful people who are in business,
who are entrepreneurs and who are up to some good
I'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Thank you.
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